20. part TWO / Samantha Treasure—Out-of-body experiences, and an owl

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August 13, 2025 • 56 mins

This follow-up conversation with Samantha was inspired by an owl. Really. The interview begins with me explaining why there needed to be a part two, and it involves an illustration created to match a psychic vision during meditation (see link below). This led to a deeper conversation on the fears, doubts, and challenges of UFO contact. Why do these elusive realms seem to overlap? Samantha’s book HERE Her blog, Zombies in PJs Link to the blog post from 2015 with the illustration and audio, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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