May 12, 2025 • 38 mins
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(00:00):
Welcome back, everyone.
We're here.
Hot Breath, your weekly comedytune up with comedians Joel Byers
and Yoshi.
So hope you all had a goodweek out there.
Yoshi was roasting my hairbefore this.
It's getting.
It's getting out of hand.
It is.
(00:20):
But I just saw Joel thisweekend, just saw Joe, and he was
buttoned up.
He was just smooth.
He was performing.
He just crushed on the show,and he was just in good spirits.
And then I saw him thismorning, and I was like, man, it
looked like the weekend wonJoel Byers 0.
(00:41):
Because it looked like on yourface, your hair.
Yeah.
For those of the.
For those of you that want tosee, I'm gonna post this video on
the Patreon.
But it is a.
It's real out here in thesestreets, dudes.
Real out here in these streets.
(01:02):
I mean, the show you saw meat, Yeah, I had been up since 5am
that day.
Let's go.
You know, my wife and I are inthe local rose society, so this weekend
was the big Mother's Day roseshow that our group does at the Atlanta
Botanical Gardens.
(01:23):
So.
So we were up at 5:00am I mean.
Yeah.
What were y' all doing?
Like, what.
What does that mean whenyou're in a rose society?
I.
This is some very next level.
I thought I knew everythingabout hoas in gardening and the architectural
committee, but this I have noclue on.
(01:45):
So give us just a snippet ofwhat it is to be in a rose garden
group so I can go tell my grandma.
I do have.
I do have.
One of my favorite new jokesis that some people marry their mothers.
I married my grandmother.
Oh, my God.
And it crushes everything.
I love that joke.
(02:05):
But, I mean, it's just kind oflike a club.
Like, we do monthly meetingsbased on different topics, and we'll
do at the Carter Center.
We maintain the rose gardenthere, and we'll go and prune and
dig up or plant new roses andthings like that.
It's.
It's basically just like aclub with old people.
(02:26):
And then my wife and I.
My wife and me.
Yeah, it really is.
And we.
Last weekend, we went andtoured one of the members who.
She's like an award.
She won Best in show.
This.
It really is like the movieBest in show that they did with dogs.
Like, there could be a movieabout this, and there should be,
(02:50):
and there might be, and theremight be down the road.
There's any investors,Kickstarter, but it is.
Yeah.
She had, like, 300 roses.
It was incredible.
Say what Is it a competitive, like.
Like, is it kind of like bestin show competitive like that there,
dude?
Very like, they are it, dude.
(03:13):
It.
You could cut the tension witha knife at this because it is like,
it's a show, but it's also a contest.
There's judges and they reviewthe roses and things.
And like.
Yeah, before the show, peopleare super tense, like, working on
their roses and doing allthese different things.
And then like, after the show,while the judges are judging the
(03:34):
roses, everyone's justdrinking wine at like 11 in the morning
or 10 in the morning.
Yeah.
So I did that all day and thenbasically went straight to the show
after and then did two showswhere you saw me on the second one,
(03:54):
which I think.
I think this is a cautionarytale for comics.
You know, I like.
I like to be bad sometimes,you know, Miyoshi, I want to feel
bad.
I want to be a rebel.
I wanna.
I wanna go back to college.
You know what I mean?
I want.
I want that every minute ofevery day of my life.
(04:15):
And I'm constantly battlingthat impulse just to eat and drink
everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gotta.
You got a bad boy streak inyou that shows up every once in a
while.
I think I'm also a culpritbecause I like to egg upon because
I want to see it, because wealways have a good time.
That's what jb, one of theguys that runs that show, he wants
(04:39):
me to do it.
He's like, I just want you todo a dirty set.
I just want you to do onedirty set.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Talking about that for a while.
He's like, man, I want to see.
Yeah.
So bad.
Yeah.
So, like, I.
I headlined their first show.
Their seven o' clock show went amazing.
Sold a bunch of merch.
I was like, yes.
(04:59):
You know, comedy.
I love it.
So then the second show waskind of.
It's like a crowd work showand there's like bucket where you
could pull out topics.
So I was like kind of feelingmy oats, as they say.
And it's.
The show's at a brewery.
JB runs the brewery.
JB King and Ryan Skrilla, theyhave die laughing comedy.
(05:20):
They run a bunch of great shows.
And I was like, I'm gonna havea beer.
Like, I'm gonna.
Let's be bad.
Yeah, we've been out.
We deserve it.
We just had a great show.
We just made some money.
Yep.
So I told jb, I was like, yo,can I get a beer?
And he's like, oh, I got theperfect one.
And it was like, one that waslike 10.9%.
(05:41):
And, you know, I.
Despite how much I want todrink, I don't.
Yeah.
So I hadn't drank in a minute, dude.
And I could feel it.
When I was on stage doing thatset, I said, I'm quitting comedy.
Several times.
I said, I hate this.
Like, my timing was off.
Like, the set was going well,but I was so in my head.
(06:01):
And then I was like, they'relaughing, but it's the beer getting
the laugh and not me.
It's like.
I mean, I wasn't drinking onstage, but I had.
And I said on stage, I hadhalf a beer, and I'm in the bag.
And then I went back.
It was literally a quarter ofthe beer.
It wasn't even half of it.
So you had 0.2.
You didn't even have point.
Like, 0.25 of the beer.
(06:23):
That's so hilarious.
I was feeling it, dude.
Like, and, like, my set wentwell, but I was in my head about
it and the timing and just.
I didn't.
I didn't like it.
I thought I was like, I'm justgonna be loosey goosey up there.
And it just didn't.
It didn't feel.
And I feel like it's acautionary tale for comics that,
(06:44):
especially starting out, I'llknow a lot of comics will, like,
drink before every show, whichcan get really expensive, especially
when you get a dui.
But it could become a crutch.
I've seen it become a crutchfor people.
Or smoking as well.
People get high before a show.
It's just, if you want this tobe your job, you do need to treat
it like a job.
And that was a reminderSaturday of just like, oh, no, this
(07:08):
is not my vibe.
But also, I can't.
The other.
But the other thing, though,is also, like, just from your perspective,
I want to, like, just give you props.
You weren't getting paid forthe second show.
It was just, like, you just.
And that was the vibe of the show.
Like, it was just like, drunkshow to brewery.
Like, yeah.
Yes.
Nothing bad happened.
It just.
Yeah.
I forgot it in my.
(07:29):
I felt it in myself.
I was like, this is not.
This is not in alignment withwho I am anymore, for sure.
But also think.
I think it's.
Every once in a while, I thinkit's okay to, like, just take that
chance.
I know that sounds verycounterintuitive to everything you
just said, but I also thinkevery once in a while, I hadn't Done,
you know.
Oh, you've.
You've seen me.
I really don't do crowd work.
(07:50):
Right.
But I'm actually really goodat improv and so I tend to stay away
from doing crowd work, mainlybecause I just enjoy having complete
control of what's happeningwith stand up with my material.
I know where these laughs aregoing to be.
I know.
I know where the pops are, Iknow where the laws are.
So I get very technical.
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So I don't do a lot of, like,crowd work.
So when I do get to do crowdwork, I feel very, very free and
I'm like, oh, we're justhaving fun.
There's no expectations.
So they threw me up and I didlike a quick five minutes and it
was just a good time.
And I need to remember to,like, kind of place that into my
(08:33):
bigger set as well, of justfeeling a bit more free.
And that's a thing that I'mworking on in the next couple of.
Just like my next couple ofsets is leave some room for some
playfulness.
Especially in my set.
It was just a good reminder that.
Of just like, oh, it's interactive.
It's okay to talk to the crowd.
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I know how to be in the moment.
I know how to do this.
I just don't do it very often.
And so I think it's fun to atleast, like, challenge yourself every
once in a while when you getthe opportunity.
I.
I mean, I know for sure theywouldn't have thrown me up if they
thought it was going to be bad.
And obviously it was not bad.
Like, it was still.
(09:14):
Still a hell of a night.
Great set, still good stuffall around.
But it was just like areminder, like, oh, yeah, we can
do different stuff even if weare married to the set, like I am.
Yeah.
And I'll get that questionfrom comics a good bit about, like,
if their material feels staleor they're kind of feel like they're
(09:37):
in a creative rut orsomething, because sometimes, like,
you'll.
You'll go on a month of like,oh, everything's amazing, and then
six months of just, what am I doing?
So it's up and down all the time.
So that could be a fun way toshake it up is just remember to have
fun.
Fun.
Remember, this is supposed tobe fun.
(09:58):
And I did that before my set.
The first show I did there was.
I set the intention.
I was like, just have fun.
Like we talked about lastweek, the set I did at your grad
show.
Yeah.
That it was just fun and sillyand I was like, I want to go in with
that intention again.
So before the show, I was likeliterally saying out loud, I was
like, let's just have fun.
What?
Let's just be silly and justhave fun.
(10:19):
And the set went really welland I did to like, like similar,
like a lot of riffing.
But on, like not ruining theshow, like they were riffing that
was working.
And then going in the materialand kind of just being a little more
silly, which is what Imentioned last week.
I want to be more intentionalabout doing so.
(10:41):
And then I had a quarter of abeer and then ruined all.
I don't know if I told you.
I told one comic after, I waslike, I should have just gone out
on a high.
She just gone home.
You told me.
Yeah, yeah, because I gave youthe look.
I was like, george, you look sad.
What happened?
I was like, everyone's havinga good time.
I walked into the.
I walked into the place.
(11:01):
I got there like super late,but I came to watch a friend of mine.
I think you just missed me.
I think I just gotten off.
Yeah, yeah, you said you justgot off.
And I came to watch a friend,my buddy, Jim Gallagher from California,
who's.
Oh yeah, I saw him there.
Yeah, Freaking crush dude.
Absolutely murdered that place.
And then came to watch him.
And then I saw you.
(11:22):
I was like, what happened?
I was like, it looked like something.
Somebody just like stole yourpuppy or something.
You were not happy about whatjust went down.
I feel like I let myself down.
I was like, I shouldn't have drank.
It was.
I mean, it was literally allin my head.
It was all self inflicted.
The set went well.
No one was like, yo, like, itwas all.
(11:43):
Everything went fine and justfor myself.
Yeah, but like you said, everynow and then you just.
Yeah.
Gotta remind myself I, I ain'tlike that.
Yeah, but also, you ain't newto this though.
Facts.
Yeah, facts.
We grew to this.
That's funny.
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You're like, I'm not like that anymore.
I can't drink a quarter of a beer.
Well, it was 10.9%, but it wasridicul, ridiculous.
So basically the quarter thatyou drank was 2%.
That's what you're saying,that 2% really knocked you out?
Is that what you're saying?
I guess so.
(12:25):
Not when you put it like that.
Empty stomach, though.
It was on empty stomach.
And you know, you've beenaround roses all day.
It was probably just something.
It was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the air.
It was the fumes.
It was whatever comes out ofroses, all that stuff.
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It was, you know, it was allup in the body.
Yeah.
So good.
Yeah, that was fun.
But it was.
It was still.
It was still a lot of fun anda good, great show.
They run great shows there,and they do several good shows around
the city, so it was very cool.
Yeah.
But I got a Met.
Lisa Remmer messaged me andsaid she met you, which was funny.
(13:09):
I love when people are, like,from the hot breath averse talk about
meeting you, because they'realways ex.
They're always, like, excitedand, like, say that you're awesome.
Oh, appreciate it, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Met her at the Punchline.
I went to go watch some otherfriends do comedy as well there this
weekend, and, yeah, it was a.
(13:31):
It was a fun time.
Yeah, we had an adventurewhile we were at the Punchline as
someone literally passed outwhile we were all having, like, dinner
after the show.
One of the comics.
Yeah, this is for World Seriesof Comedy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted.
I wanted to make it.
I literally.
(13:52):
I had a few people message me,and I was planning to go Saturday,
but after all that, like,being up since 5 and then at that
show till, like, 10, it wasjust like, I can't make it down there.
No, no, it was.
It was fine.
It was fine.
Yeah.
And the person's fine.
And there's nothing.
The person is fine.
Okay, good.
That's fine.
It was just.
It was just an adventure.
(14:12):
Like, you know, you.
When you go out at night andgo hang out with friends, you don't
expect, like, that stuff tohappen or, like, be in the middle
of it.
But, yeah, it happened.
And, yeah, it's called the ambulance.
Like, did it get serious?
Yeah, there was an ambulance involved.
My.
Yep, yep.
Whoa.
(14:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're okay, though.
They're okay.
They are fine.
Holy cow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's in that diner?
Food.
Interesting.
Yes.
Yep.
That usually only happens whenyou get off stage, but someone calls
(14:56):
an ambulance.
But I'm glad you're okay.
I'm glad.
Oh, my gosh.
Well played, sir.
I think it's funny that weroast each other like this, but every
time I ask you to do a roast,you're like, nah.
And I think it's because youdon't want to go back to your old
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ways.
It's true.
It's true.
I mean, I used to be.
I roast.
I was.
Yeah.
I mean, I did several contestsand stuff like that.
Yeah.
I'm just not about that.
Like, I would do it for money.
Yeah.
But it would have to be work.
Like, because when I do aroast, like, I really prepare.
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Like, I mean, I go deep on it.
So I just know how much workit is to do a roast the right way.
I know.
Yeah.
So it's.
I kind of.
Yeah.
I got out of my system when Idid that roast battle with Dulce
that they could.
They cut.
They cut us out of the show.
But it was like.
That was kind of like the peakof my roasting, where I was like,
(16:04):
oh, I'm gonna be on Comedy Central.
I was like, oh, never mind.
Okay, well, that was cool.
It's fine.
So that was kind of.
After that, I was like, Ithink I got out of my system.
Really?
Yeah.
That's funny, because I had.
I had someone literally, like,message me a week or two ago about,
(16:27):
he's doing, like, a fundraiserfor this disease he has.
He wanted me to come roasthim, and I was just like, what?
You know.
Just like, are you insane?
That sounds like the worstsetup ever.
I would so do that.
I would so do that.
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Yeah, I would definitely dothat gig.
I think it's because there's aperson in our class who has.
In my comedy class that has cancer.
And one of the classes, I dothis thing where everyone gets on
stage, and we sort of justhave a gentleman's agreement that
(17:11):
we're going to roast each other.
So, you know, everything thatsomeone could potentially say about
you and use it either in yourown comedy or not.
So that's one of the weeks inmy class where everybody just gets
roasted and you tell peopleinformation about you, and then they
use it as part of, like, theirown set.
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And, dude, we went in on thisguy, and he loved every single minute
of it.
But at the same time, he alsoused it as part of his, like, material.
So you have to do it in thesafe space, honestly.
But, man, we had a very good time.
But he was very into it andwas, like, completely okay with it.
Not everybody's okay with it.
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I think that's one of thosethings that you have to request it
for yourself.
Like, I think Jeff, theroastmaster, he never lets somebody
else say, oh, roast this person.
You have to volunteer to beroasted yourself.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Interesting.
That's a fun exercise.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Because then you, like, it's.
It's fun to see differentperspectives, especially comedy perspectives,
of just what people think whenthey first see you on stage.
Like, and just a bunch of youlook like.
You know, you sound like yourhair gives off these kinds of things.
Like, your face looks likethis Like, I feel like, you know,
(18:35):
you could have arrested me amonth ago.
Like, it's just things of.
Just whatever you can think ofand you just go.
And then obviously we recordit and then you can use it and add
tags to it.
But it's meant to be also justmeant to help you with any of your
self deprecating humor as well.
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Yeah.
Interesting.
That's a fun exercise.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah.
But you got to do it in thesafe space, of course.
Yeah.
It's all got to be in context.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Roasting's still huge.
It's.
Oh, yeah.
I know a lot of people stilldo it a lot.
So.
(19:16):
Yeah.
Personal preference, you know,I mean, Atlanta roast scene is getting
bigger now as well, so I'vedone one.
I'm trying to do some more.
It's a skill.
It's a good writing exercise.
I want to just add it to thebag of, like, the repertoire of things
that I can bring out when needed.
(19:39):
I'm really not a roaster.
I really don't roast people a lot.
But if I have time.
The least intimidating laugh ever.
If I have time.
Yeah.
Don't let me look at yourLinkedIn, baby, because it's gonna
be a wrap.
(20:03):
Let me find.
Your credit score is gonna be over.
Oh, and I had a.
I had a question.
Someone in the this month'scontest had asked me a question I
wanted to get to.
Oh, and I got to work withRafi Bastos this weekend too, which
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was very cool.
How was that?
He.
International superstar, bigInstagram follower.
It was incredible.
Yeah, he was.
I mean, it's.
He's like a fan of the podcasthe likes.
Awesome.
He messaged me a few years agoand was saying how much he enjoyed
the podcast and would love todo it.
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And I was like, yeah, wheneveryou're in Atlanta.
Because I don't.
I don't really want to do themon Zoom anymore.
Like, before the pandemic, Inever did one on Zoom.
It was always in person.
Yeah.
So now that we're back at thereal world, I'm not doing them on
Zoom anymore.
It's just different.
It's not.
Yeah.
So, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
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So he was in Atlanta, like we did.
We weren't able to make it happen.
The last time he was inAtlanta, I was out of town or something.
But he came back this time andI got to open his show and also do
the POD after, which was super dope.
So it was just cool that it'sKind of like when Earthquake is like,
(21:31):
I love what y' all are doing.
It's just cool to hear comicsof that level just being like, yeah,
keep going.
This is good.
So the.
The shows were dope.
The interview was dope.
They cut us off.
Apparently, the lady thatworking there wanted to go home,
so they cut us off at, like,30 minutes.
So we didn't even really getinto it.
(21:53):
Yeah, get into, like, the.
He loves, like, the nerdy sideof the show.
So I definitely want to getinto that.
But I also wanted to get morecontext on just.
This guy was like the JohnStewart of Brazil and then moved
to America and is now, like,blowing up again.
So I was like, this guy knowssomething about how to become famous,
you know?
Yeah.
(22:14):
Yeah.
So I was trying to get intothat side of stuff first.
And not as much the nerdy.
And then she was.
She didn't say anything.
She just stood over myshoulder, and Gus Horn was there,
hot breath there.
So then, like, I felt herpresence, but I wasn't looking.
(22:35):
I was just talking with Rafi,and I kind of felt her walk away.
And then I was like.
Looked at Gus, and I was like,is she trying to kick us out?
And he was like, yeah.
Which Rafi was not thrilled about.
He was like, I just made themall this money.
And then, like, he basically.
The show was probably 90% full.
And then Saturday, he did sell out.
(22:55):
So it's kind of like, yo,you'll be here.
It reminds me, I heard aRalphie May story where he was drinking
at a comedy club, and it wasgetting, like, late, and the manager
asked him.
He's like, I gotta go home.
And he was like, I just soldout seven shows.
He's like, I'll stay here all night.
And he ended up staying there,like, all night just to keep the
manager there, just becausehe's like, I just made you, like,
(23:18):
yeah, I just made your nutfor, like, six months, so I'm gonna
stay here as late as I want.
So it was.
Yeah, I think just around 2,but it was good.
That's hilarious.
Literally just had a situation.
I think she was at a spot inDetroit, and after she does, like,
meet and greets or somethinglike that.
Yeah.
And the person was just like,oh, we don't do meet and greet.
(23:40):
And I think part of it isbecause that place has to pay people,
like, overtime.
But it's like, we just.
To your point, we just madeyou all this money.
Yeah, go ahead and pay the overtime.
Like, we just took care of youfor A very long time.
Like chill out with like thelogistics of what you have to do
and just pay your people.
Yeah.
You might not enjoy it, butpay them.
(24:02):
Sure.
This venue also will take acut of your merch.
Like it's.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean it's a beautiful placeand they have a lot of nice shows
there.
But that is kind of like.
I mean, I had a friend thereselling koozies and they're like,
you're gonna take 20 of my 140merch sale of koozies.
(24:24):
I was like, okay, cool.
But whatever.
Yeah.
But yeah, super nice venue andthe show was great.
I'm like, I'm like cleaning itup now.
I was like, it was totally fine.
Besides that they kicked usout early.
Work there anytime, you guys.
Yeah, he was super dope andsuper nice and yeah, just very complimentary
(24:47):
of the show.
So that was, that was very cool.
And I'll post that interviewon the Patreon so people can see
it.
Awesome, dude.
Sweet, man.
But I had a question.
This is anonymous.
This was anonymous.
They want to make sure I keptit anonymous.
I love anonymous.
It was kind of a two parter.
They said on the next podcast,can you, Yoshi, talk about how you
(25:10):
feel about comedians trying togain followers by commenting on other
famous comedians posts?
And they said, I also forgotto tell you, Dusty Slay said he takes
notes on stage on New materialMondays at Zany's.
I guess because I say don'ttake notes on stage.
But it's not, it's just, it'snot a law.
(25:33):
It's a personal preference forme not to have notes on stage.
And I feel like youngercomics, the notes can become a crutch
for sure and break some sortof discomfort they have.
And I think younger comics canlearn from persevering through resistance.
(25:54):
Like, oh, you forgot your jokeon stage.
Okay.
What now you have to survivein this moment.
I think that's more valuablethan this joke you're not going to
be doing in three months.
Oh.
Learning how to be morepresent and confident on stage through
that discomfort.
That's.
Confidence is the name of thegame in comedy.
And stage is where you gainthat confidence.
(26:14):
But I see, Yeah, I mean,comics have shot specials with notes
like, I'm not saying it's alaw, but personally preference.
I don't like notes on stage.
I know you've said theopposite and that's fine.
But I love she.
She.
They.
Sorry, I don't want to.
She.
He.
I don't want to say who it Was.
Yeah, but I love.
They threw that in there, bythe way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
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Check yourself, Joel.
But, yeah, it's new materialMonday, so everyone's trying new
stuff.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
And also more geared at youngcomics, is what I was saying.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and I get, like.
Your point is very valid.
Like, it's.
It's good just to, like,challenge yourself when you kind
of don't know your material,to figure out what to do in that
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situation, because that isreal life.
You're going to get to a spotwhere you're performing, and then
even though you memorize yourentire set and you know what you're
going to say, you may justforget or you get a laugh somewhere
that you're not expecting itand don't know what to do.
So it's good just to know whatto do in that moment, in that situation,
which is to your point.
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Why not taking notes on stagehelps you out, because then you're
in the moment versus havingthe crutch of trying to go back and
trying to follow.
Oh, what am I.
Where am I supposed to go nextin my set?
Or where.
What am I supposed to do next?
So it's very, very valid.
But, you know, Dusty Slay cando whatever he wants.
That's the other thing I thinkwe have to also remember sometimes.
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I think when comedians, Iforget who said it, but it was very
good advice about how youshouldn't be trying to do what, like,
the greats are doing.
You need to do the thing thatthe person above you is doing.
So if you're an open micr, youneed to try to do the stuff that
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people who are showcasing are doing.
If you're a showcase person,you need to do the things that people
who are featuring are doing.
And if you're featuring, youneed to do the things that headliners
are doing.
And if you're a headliner, youneed to do the things that people
who are doing stadiums are doing.
Like, that's the level versustrying to do the stuff that Chappelle,
you know, Bill Burr, KevinHart, like, we are, y' all, we're.
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The levels are different, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Gap in the things that theyare thinking about and the things
that they are walking through.
So Dusty Slay is a bonafide.
He's starting to do like, he's doing.
Theaters, selling out, bigtheaters now Netflix specials, like
on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, George Wallace, who isone of the most, like, absolutely
most prolific writers, takesnotes on stage, when he's trying
out material, a huge note,it's like a.
It's like a 90s yellow padthat has like.
And when you like when he ripmoves the next.
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It's a huge movement of like this.
It's a.
It's a long pad.
It's not even a regular eightand a half.
It's like a scroll.
It's a scroll dude of just notes.
And he crushes with that stuffbecause he's just a prolific writer
and he's just like writing andthen trying stuff out.
So.
So I think when you get tothat stage, you get to break the
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rules a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
I was just thinking newercomics, it could be a crutch more
than like.
The initial question was whatwas the first part of the question?
Okay, yeah, that had nothingto do with her question.
She just.
Or they, he, they.
Oh, just wanted to slide thatin there.
Oh, by the way, Dusty Slayuses notes.
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But the question was about howdo we feel about comedians trying
to gain followers bycommenting on famous comedians posts.
Yeah.
Get it.
How you live.
Like it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I mean, I think this is one ofthose things that it's very obvious
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that the algorithm is tellingus that that's an okay thing to do.
Right.
Which is just that response.
But response videos havealways been a thing.
But.
And comedian clips are hugeright now.
Comedy is a huge algorithmicsuccess for all of social media.
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Comedy clips, crowd work clips.
Probably more comedy clips nowthan crowd work used to be.
It's not as big right nowunless you're like some people like
a Matt Rife who still does thecrowd clips.
But.
But even they were his.
His guy was saying that theydon't hit like they used to.
Like the algorithm isn'tprioritizing that as much as it used
to back when they were first starting.
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He said the view.
I mean they're doing fine, of course.
But yeah, he said the viewsare down on that style of content
now.
Absolutely.
So there's a different styleof content, of just funny, relatable
content stuff.
And people like reactions atthe end of the day.
Like reactions have alwaysbeen a thing.
I mean if you think aboutYouTube and the amount of YouTube
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videos of people reacting tomusic videos, people reacting to
news, people reacting to stuffthat people doing just commentary
on that stuff, it almost feels like.
It's just.
It's almost like a in personpodcast where you're Just commenting
on things that you find interesting.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I don't have any issues with it.
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I think though, the key is ifyou're doing it for the sake of that's
what you think is going to hitfrom a viral perspective, then that
feels like you're not doing itfor the right reasons.
If you're doing it becauselike you're really interested in
it, then for sure go ahead anddo that.
But if you're like, oh, I wantto do this just so I can try to pop
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on Instagram, then that justfeels very inauthentic and you know,
then you have to ask yourself,what are you actually doing it for?
Like.
Exactly.
Yeah.
As long as you're not trolling.
Yeah.
Trying to get off on some sortof controversy or whatnot.
It's.
Yeah.
Like why are you doing it?
Basically.
Yeah, that's a great questionto ask yourself before you even do
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try something like that.
But that's not even something.
I don't, I guess I don'tnotice it, but I guess comics are
doing that.
That.
But I don't.
Yeah, I don't have an issuewith this.
There's a lot of, lot of clipsof rotated Joe Rogan, Theo von Bobby
Lee and a couple of just thebig podcast of just people reacting
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to those clips of justresponding to it as if though they're
just making commentary.
I mean, there's an entire guyon YouTube that just finds controversy
in what's happening in thejoke ecosystem, I mean the comedy
ecosystem, and just talksabout the beefs between comics or
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beefs in scenes, all thisother stuff.
It's like that's really whatyou want to do.
Sure.
But is that going to.
I mean, I think that's theother thing.
Is someone going to come andsee you at a show for that?
You know what I mean?
Sure, you can do it online inYouTube, but will someone pay money
for that commentary?
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And I think that's thedifference is like at the end of
the day we're still a businesswhere you make the majority of your
money by people coming to see you.
Live performances is whereyour bread really is made.
You know what I mean?
Like Theo Vaughn.
Yes.
He's got this huge podcast,but he tours like he sells out stadiums.
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Like he's like still doing bigtime shows.
Yes.
Andrew Schultz is verypopular, but he sells out Madison
Square Garden.
Yes.
The podcast helps, but he'sstill doing tons of weekends.
Yep.
Yeah.
And it's.
Yeah.
So as long as you'recommenting on these posts from.
Yeah.
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Place.
Yeah.
Ask yourself why you're doingit basically.
And I guess it could work.
Gaining followers fromcommenting on a post is an interesting
strategy.
Considered thought about it.
But I have nothing.
As long as there's no mal intent.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't have issueswith it.
Clearly this person probablyhas a strong opinion and maybe is
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annoyed by this and is like,what do you guys think of this?
Because it's such a specific question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, as long as you'renot hurting anybody.
I don't, I don't have issueswith it.
Really?
Yeah.
That's funny.
I just love how specific thequestion is.
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I feel like they posted thisafter seeing a lot of it and being
frustrated.
Like, what are we doing here?
Oh, and by the way, dusty slow.
That's one of those thingswhere you like, I.
I do this where I don't likesomething online.
So I just keep watching thatthing that I don't enjoy.
And then the algorithm thinksI really enjoy this because I keep
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watching.
And then you're like, I hate this.
And then you're angry andyou're like, why are people doing
this?
And so, yeah, I think they gotto that point where they're just
hate watching pretty much.
Joe.
Joe Mackey had this hilariousjoke when I worked with him.
I don't want like give awaythe whole bit, but it was basically
like, he's friends with Mato Lane.
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Yeah.
Who's like a very well knowncomedian who's gay.
And he like posts pictures andSpeedos a lot and stuff.
So he had this joke about howthe algorithm, he liked a photo of
mate Mateo as a friend, buthe's like, but the algorithm thought
that's what I like now.
So he was served up all this different.
It's a whole bit I don't wantto like give away, but it was just
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so funny.
That reminded me of that.
Yeah.
But that's true though.
Like, even if you're like, ohyeah, I support this.
And then the algorithm's like,oh, you like a lot of this?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm.
I'm currently going through.
I'm trying to replace it.
I've been watching like justnature videos of lions, like in the
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wild, like hunting animals.
Oh my God.
Literally thinks that that'swhat like I enjoy.
Like, I liked one video.
One video.
And then all of a sudden itjust became a thing now.
I was like, why don't you dothat with my comedy clips, y' all
Serve that up to other people, please.
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What are we doing here?
Yeah, I'm hunting these jokes, somebody.
All right, well, let's.
Let's land the plane.
I've got.
I've got family coming over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The baby.
But I'm glad we snuck that.
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We got up early for this, y' all.
We want to make sure we stillgot it in.
I just dropped off the kidsand came straight.
Yep, yep, yep.
So we appreciate all support.
Thanks for asking questions.
And it's always great to seeall out in the shows and stuff, so
feel free to keep hitting usup, join our Facebook group.
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There's a lot of other gooddiscussions going on in there.
Hot breath.
Yeah.
Those of you watching onPatreon Yoshi is wearing the OG Hot
breath shirt with the originaltagline caffeinate your ears, which
means nothing.
Start.
This was the start, baby.
Purple and white was the color scheme.
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Caffeinate your ears literallysays nothing about the show, but
it says everything at the same time.
But, yeah, if you guys want tobook us for stuff, we're both available
for booking on shows and stuffas well, so hit us up on social media.
Yeah, we do clean, we do dirty.
We do it all.
Maybe Joel won't do dirty.
He might have to.
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He might have to have, like, a.
Beer in my system.
We'll see a little alky in the system.
Dirty stuff.
So, yeah, we are available for bookings.
Feel free to hit us up aboutthat, and we'll see you all next
week.
Bye.
Bye.
Welcome back, everyone.
We're here.
Hot Breath, your weekly comedytune up with comedians Joel Byers
and Yoshi.
So hope you all had a goodweek out there.
Yoshi was roasting my hairbefore this.
It's getting.
It's getting out of hand.
It is.
(00:20):
But I just saw Joel thisweekend, just saw Joe, and he was
buttoned up.
He was just smooth.
He was performing.
He just crushed on the show,and he was just in good spirits.
And then I saw him thismorning, and I was like, man, it
looked like the weekend wonJoel Byers 0.
(00:41):
Because it looked like on yourface, your hair.
Yeah.
For those of the.
For those of you that want tosee, I'm gonna post this video on
the Patreon.
But it is a.
It's real out here in thesestreets, dudes.
Real out here in these streets.
(01:02):
I mean, the show you saw meat, Yeah, I had been up since 5am
that day.
Let's go.
You know, my wife and I are inthe local rose society, so this weekend
was the big Mother's Day roseshow that our group does at the Atlanta
Botanical Gardens.
(01:23):
So.
So we were up at 5:00am I mean.
Yeah.
What were y' all doing?
Like, what.
What does that mean whenyou're in a rose society?
I.
This is some very next level.
I thought I knew everythingabout hoas in gardening and the architectural
committee, but this I have noclue on.
(01:45):
So give us just a snippet ofwhat it is to be in a rose garden
group so I can go tell my grandma.
I do have.
I do have.
One of my favorite new jokesis that some people marry their mothers.
I married my grandmother.
Oh, my God.
And it crushes everything.
I love that joke.
(02:05):
But, I mean, it's just kind oflike a club.
Like, we do monthly meetingsbased on different topics, and we'll
do at the Carter Center.
We maintain the rose gardenthere, and we'll go and prune and
dig up or plant new roses andthings like that.
It's.
It's basically just like aclub with old people.
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And then my wife and I.
My wife and me.
Yeah, it really is.
And we.
Last weekend, we went andtoured one of the members who.
She's like an award.
She won Best in show.
This.
It really is like the movieBest in show that they did with dogs.
Like, there could be a movieabout this, and there should be,
(02:50):
and there might be, and theremight be down the road.
There's any investors,Kickstarter, but it is.
Yeah.
She had, like, 300 roses.
It was incredible.
Say what Is it a competitive, like.
Like, is it kind of like bestin show competitive like that there,
dude?
Very like, they are it, dude.
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It.
You could cut the tension witha knife at this because it is like,
it's a show, but it's also a contest.
There's judges and they reviewthe roses and things.
And like.
Yeah, before the show, peopleare super tense, like, working on
their roses and doing allthese different things.
And then like, after the show,while the judges are judging the
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roses, everyone's justdrinking wine at like 11 in the morning
or 10 in the morning.
Yeah.
So I did that all day and thenbasically went straight to the show
after and then did two showswhere you saw me on the second one,
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which I think.
I think this is a cautionarytale for comics.
You know, I like.
I like to be bad sometimes,you know, Miyoshi, I want to feel
bad.
I want to be a rebel.
I wanna.
I wanna go back to college.
You know what I mean?
I want.
I want that every minute ofevery day of my life.
(04:15):
And I'm constantly battlingthat impulse just to eat and drink
everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gotta.
You got a bad boy streak inyou that shows up every once in a
while.
I think I'm also a culpritbecause I like to egg upon because
I want to see it, because wealways have a good time.
That's what jb, one of theguys that runs that show, he wants
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me to do it.
He's like, I just want you todo a dirty set.
I just want you to do onedirty set.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Talking about that for a while.
He's like, man, I want to see.
Yeah.
So bad.
Yeah.
So, like, I.
I headlined their first show.
Their seven o' clock show went amazing.
Sold a bunch of merch.
I was like, yes.
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You know, comedy.
I love it.
So then the second show waskind of.
It's like a crowd work showand there's like bucket where you
could pull out topics.
So I was like kind of feelingmy oats, as they say.
And it's.
The show's at a brewery.
JB runs the brewery.
JB King and Ryan Skrilla, theyhave die laughing comedy.
(05:20):
They run a bunch of great shows.
And I was like, I'm gonna havea beer.
Like, I'm gonna.
Let's be bad.
Yeah, we've been out.
We deserve it.
We just had a great show.
We just made some money.
Yep.
So I told jb, I was like, yo,can I get a beer?
And he's like, oh, I got theperfect one.
And it was like, one that waslike 10.9%.
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And, you know, I.
Despite how much I want todrink, I don't.
Yeah.
So I hadn't drank in a minute, dude.
And I could feel it.
When I was on stage doing thatset, I said, I'm quitting comedy.
Several times.
I said, I hate this.
Like, my timing was off.
Like, the set was going well,but I was so in my head.
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And then I was like, they'relaughing, but it's the beer getting
the laugh and not me.
It's like.
I mean, I wasn't drinking onstage, but I had.
And I said on stage, I hadhalf a beer, and I'm in the bag.
And then I went back.
It was literally a quarter ofthe beer.
It wasn't even half of it.
So you had 0.2.
You didn't even have point.
Like, 0.25 of the beer.
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That's so hilarious.
I was feeling it, dude.
Like, and, like, my set wentwell, but I was in my head about
it and the timing and just.
I didn't.
I didn't like it.
I thought I was like, I'm justgonna be loosey goosey up there.
And it just didn't.
It didn't feel.
And I feel like it's acautionary tale for comics that,
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especially starting out, I'llknow a lot of comics will, like,
drink before every show, whichcan get really expensive, especially
when you get a dui.
But it could become a crutch.
I've seen it become a crutchfor people.
Or smoking as well.
People get high before a show.
It's just, if you want this tobe your job, you do need to treat
it like a job.
And that was a reminderSaturday of just like, oh, no, this
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is not my vibe.
But also, I can't.
The other.
But the other thing, though,is also, like, just from your perspective,
I want to, like, just give you props.
You weren't getting paid forthe second show.
It was just, like, you just.
And that was the vibe of the show.
Like, it was just like, drunkshow to brewery.
Like, yeah.
Yes.
Nothing bad happened.
It just.
Yeah.
I forgot it in my.
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I felt it in myself.
I was like, this is not.
This is not in alignment withwho I am anymore, for sure.
But also think.
I think it's.
Every once in a while, I thinkit's okay to, like, just take that
chance.
I know that sounds verycounterintuitive to everything you
just said, but I also thinkevery once in a while, I hadn't Done,
you know.
Oh, you've.
You've seen me.
I really don't do crowd work.
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Right.
But I'm actually really goodat improv and so I tend to stay away
from doing crowd work, mainlybecause I just enjoy having complete
control of what's happeningwith stand up with my material.
I know where these laughs aregoing to be.
I know.
I know where the pops are, Iknow where the laws are.
So I get very technical.
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So I don't do a lot of, like,crowd work.
So when I do get to do crowdwork, I feel very, very free and
I'm like, oh, we're justhaving fun.
There's no expectations.
So they threw me up and I didlike a quick five minutes and it
was just a good time.
And I need to remember to,like, kind of place that into my
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bigger set as well, of justfeeling a bit more free.
And that's a thing that I'mworking on in the next couple of.
Just like my next couple ofsets is leave some room for some
playfulness.
Especially in my set.
It was just a good reminder that.
Of just like, oh, it's interactive.
It's okay to talk to the crowd.
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I know how to be in the moment.
I know how to do this.
I just don't do it very often.
And so I think it's fun to atleast, like, challenge yourself every
once in a while when you getthe opportunity.
I.
I mean, I know for sure theywouldn't have thrown me up if they
thought it was going to be bad.
And obviously it was not bad.
Like, it was still.
(09:14):
Still a hell of a night.
Great set, still good stuffall around.
But it was just like areminder, like, oh, yeah, we can
do different stuff even if weare married to the set, like I am.
Yeah.
And I'll get that questionfrom comics a good bit about, like,
if their material feels staleor they're kind of feel like they're
(09:37):
in a creative rut orsomething, because sometimes, like,
you'll.
You'll go on a month of like,oh, everything's amazing, and then
six months of just, what am I doing?
So it's up and down all the time.
So that could be a fun way toshake it up is just remember to have
fun.
Fun.
Remember, this is supposed tobe fun.
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And I did that before my set.
The first show I did there was.
I set the intention.
I was like, just have fun.
Like we talked about lastweek, the set I did at your grad
show.
Yeah.
That it was just fun and sillyand I was like, I want to go in with
that intention again.
So before the show, I was likeliterally saying out loud, I was
like, let's just have fun.
What?
Let's just be silly and justhave fun.
(10:19):
And the set went really welland I did to like, like similar,
like a lot of riffing.
But on, like not ruining theshow, like they were riffing that
was working.
And then going in the materialand kind of just being a little more
silly, which is what Imentioned last week.
I want to be more intentionalabout doing so.
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And then I had a quarter of abeer and then ruined all.
I don't know if I told you.
I told one comic after, I waslike, I should have just gone out
on a high.
She just gone home.
You told me.
Yeah, yeah, because I gave youthe look.
I was like, george, you look sad.
What happened?
I was like, everyone's havinga good time.
I walked into the.
I walked into the place.
(11:01):
I got there like super late,but I came to watch a friend of mine.
I think you just missed me.
I think I just gotten off.
Yeah, yeah, you said you justgot off.
And I came to watch a friend,my buddy, Jim Gallagher from California,
who's.
Oh yeah, I saw him there.
Yeah, Freaking crush dude.
Absolutely murdered that place.
And then came to watch him.
And then I saw you.
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I was like, what happened?
I was like, it looked like something.
Somebody just like stole yourpuppy or something.
You were not happy about whatjust went down.
I feel like I let myself down.
I was like, I shouldn't have drank.
It was.
I mean, it was literally allin my head.
It was all self inflicted.
The set went well.
No one was like, yo, like, itwas all.
(11:43):
Everything went fine and justfor myself.
Yeah, but like you said, everynow and then you just.
Yeah.
Gotta remind myself I, I ain'tlike that.
Yeah, but also, you ain't newto this though.
Facts.
Yeah, facts.
We grew to this.
That's funny.
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You're like, I'm not like that anymore.
I can't drink a quarter of a beer.
Well, it was 10.9%, but it wasridicul, ridiculous.
So basically the quarter thatyou drank was 2%.
That's what you're saying,that 2% really knocked you out?
Is that what you're saying?
I guess so.
(12:25):
Not when you put it like that.
Empty stomach, though.
It was on empty stomach.
And you know, you've beenaround roses all day.
It was probably just something.
It was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the air.
It was the fumes.
It was whatever comes out ofroses, all that stuff.
(12:46):
It was, you know, it was allup in the body.
Yeah.
So good.
Yeah, that was fun.
But it was.
It was still.
It was still a lot of fun anda good, great show.
They run great shows there,and they do several good shows around
the city, so it was very cool.
Yeah.
But I got a Met.
Lisa Remmer messaged me andsaid she met you, which was funny.
(13:09):
I love when people are, like,from the hot breath averse talk about
meeting you, because they'realways ex.
They're always, like, excitedand, like, say that you're awesome.
Oh, appreciate it, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Met her at the Punchline.
I went to go watch some otherfriends do comedy as well there this
weekend, and, yeah, it was a.
(13:31):
It was a fun time.
Yeah, we had an adventurewhile we were at the Punchline as
someone literally passed outwhile we were all having, like, dinner
after the show.
One of the comics.
Yeah, this is for World Seriesof Comedy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted.
I wanted to make it.
I literally.
(13:52):
I had a few people message me,and I was planning to go Saturday,
but after all that, like,being up since 5 and then at that
show till, like, 10, it wasjust like, I can't make it down there.
No, no, it was.
It was fine.
It was fine.
Yeah.
And the person's fine.
And there's nothing.
The person is fine.
Okay, good.
That's fine.
It was just.
It was just an adventure.
(14:12):
Like, you know, you.
When you go out at night andgo hang out with friends, you don't
expect, like, that stuff tohappen or, like, be in the middle
of it.
But, yeah, it happened.
And, yeah, it's called the ambulance.
Like, did it get serious?
Yeah, there was an ambulance involved.
My.
Yep, yep.
Whoa.
(14:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're okay, though.
They're okay.
They are fine.
Holy cow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's in that diner?
Food.
Interesting.
Yes.
Yep.
That usually only happens whenyou get off stage, but someone calls
(14:56):
an ambulance.
But I'm glad you're okay.
I'm glad.
Oh, my gosh.
Well played, sir.
I think it's funny that weroast each other like this, but every
time I ask you to do a roast,you're like, nah.
And I think it's because youdon't want to go back to your old
(15:19):
ways.
It's true.
It's true.
I mean, I used to be.
I roast.
I was.
Yeah.
I mean, I did several contestsand stuff like that.
Yeah.
I'm just not about that.
Like, I would do it for money.
Yeah.
But it would have to be work.
Like, because when I do aroast, like, I really prepare.
(15:42):
Like, I mean, I go deep on it.
So I just know how much workit is to do a roast the right way.
I know.
Yeah.
So it's.
I kind of.
Yeah.
I got out of my system when Idid that roast battle with Dulce
that they could.
They cut.
They cut us out of the show.
But it was like.
That was kind of like the peakof my roasting, where I was like,
(16:04):
oh, I'm gonna be on Comedy Central.
I was like, oh, never mind.
Okay, well, that was cool.
It's fine.
So that was kind of.
After that, I was like, Ithink I got out of my system.
Really?
Yeah.
That's funny, because I had.
I had someone literally, like,message me a week or two ago about,
(16:27):
he's doing, like, a fundraiserfor this disease he has.
He wanted me to come roasthim, and I was just like, what?
You know.
Just like, are you insane?
That sounds like the worstsetup ever.
I would so do that.
I would so do that.
(16:48):
Yeah, I would definitely dothat gig.
I think it's because there's aperson in our class who has.
In my comedy class that has cancer.
And one of the classes, I dothis thing where everyone gets on
stage, and we sort of justhave a gentleman's agreement that
(17:11):
we're going to roast each other.
So, you know, everything thatsomeone could potentially say about
you and use it either in yourown comedy or not.
So that's one of the weeks inmy class where everybody just gets
roasted and you tell peopleinformation about you, and then they
use it as part of, like, theirown set.
(17:32):
And, dude, we went in on thisguy, and he loved every single minute
of it.
But at the same time, he alsoused it as part of his, like, material.
So you have to do it in thesafe space, honestly.
But, man, we had a very good time.
But he was very into it andwas, like, completely okay with it.
Not everybody's okay with it.
(17:53):
I think that's one of thosethings that you have to request it
for yourself.
Like, I think Jeff, theroastmaster, he never lets somebody
else say, oh, roast this person.
You have to volunteer to beroasted yourself.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Interesting.
That's a fun exercise.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
(18:13):
Because then you, like, it's.
It's fun to see differentperspectives, especially comedy perspectives,
of just what people think whenthey first see you on stage.
Like, and just a bunch of youlook like.
You know, you sound like yourhair gives off these kinds of things.
Like, your face looks likethis Like, I feel like, you know,
(18:35):
you could have arrested me amonth ago.
Like, it's just things of.
Just whatever you can think ofand you just go.
And then obviously we recordit and then you can use it and add
tags to it.
But it's meant to be also justmeant to help you with any of your
self deprecating humor as well.
(18:55):
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's a fun exercise.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah.
But you got to do it in thesafe space, of course.
Yeah.
It's all got to be in context.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Roasting's still huge.
It's.
Oh, yeah.
I know a lot of people stilldo it a lot.
So.
(19:16):
Yeah.
Personal preference, you know,I mean, Atlanta roast scene is getting
bigger now as well, so I'vedone one.
I'm trying to do some more.
It's a skill.
It's a good writing exercise.
I want to just add it to thebag of, like, the repertoire of things
that I can bring out when needed.
(19:39):
I'm really not a roaster.
I really don't roast people a lot.
But if I have time.
The least intimidating laugh ever.
If I have time.
Yeah.
Don't let me look at yourLinkedIn, baby, because it's gonna
be a wrap.
(20:03):
Let me find.
Your credit score is gonna be over.
Oh, and I had a.
I had a question.
Someone in the this month'scontest had asked me a question I
wanted to get to.
Oh, and I got to work withRafi Bastos this weekend too, which
(20:25):
was very cool.
How was that?
He.
International superstar, bigInstagram follower.
It was incredible.
Yeah, he was.
I mean, it's.
He's like a fan of the podcasthe likes.
Awesome.
He messaged me a few years agoand was saying how much he enjoyed
the podcast and would love todo it.
(20:47):
And I was like, yeah, wheneveryou're in Atlanta.
Because I don't.
I don't really want to do themon Zoom anymore.
Like, before the pandemic, Inever did one on Zoom.
It was always in person.
Yeah.
So now that we're back at thereal world, I'm not doing them on
Zoom anymore.
It's just different.
It's not.
Yeah.
So, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
(21:08):
So he was in Atlanta, like we did.
We weren't able to make it happen.
The last time he was inAtlanta, I was out of town or something.
But he came back this time andI got to open his show and also do
the POD after, which was super dope.
So it was just cool that it'sKind of like when Earthquake is like,
(21:31):
I love what y' all are doing.
It's just cool to hear comicsof that level just being like, yeah,
keep going.
This is good.
So the.
The shows were dope.
The interview was dope.
They cut us off.
Apparently, the lady thatworking there wanted to go home,
so they cut us off at, like,30 minutes.
So we didn't even really getinto it.
(21:53):
Yeah, get into, like, the.
He loves, like, the nerdy sideof the show.
So I definitely want to getinto that.
But I also wanted to get morecontext on just.
This guy was like the JohnStewart of Brazil and then moved
to America and is now, like,blowing up again.
So I was like, this guy knowssomething about how to become famous,
you know?
Yeah.
(22:14):
Yeah.
So I was trying to get intothat side of stuff first.
And not as much the nerdy.
And then she was.
She didn't say anything.
She just stood over myshoulder, and Gus Horn was there,
hot breath there.
So then, like, I felt herpresence, but I wasn't looking.
(22:35):
I was just talking with Rafi,and I kind of felt her walk away.
And then I was like.
Looked at Gus, and I was like,is she trying to kick us out?
And he was like, yeah.
Which Rafi was not thrilled about.
He was like, I just made themall this money.
And then, like, he basically.
The show was probably 90% full.
And then Saturday, he did sell out.
(22:55):
So it's kind of like, yo,you'll be here.
It reminds me, I heard aRalphie May story where he was drinking
at a comedy club, and it wasgetting, like, late, and the manager
asked him.
He's like, I gotta go home.
And he was like, I just soldout seven shows.
He's like, I'll stay here all night.
And he ended up staying there,like, all night just to keep the
manager there, just becausehe's like, I just made you, like,
(23:18):
yeah, I just made your nutfor, like, six months, so I'm gonna
stay here as late as I want.
So it was.
Yeah, I think just around 2,but it was good.
That's hilarious.
Literally just had a situation.
I think she was at a spot inDetroit, and after she does, like,
meet and greets or somethinglike that.
Yeah.
And the person was just like,oh, we don't do meet and greet.
(23:40):
And I think part of it isbecause that place has to pay people,
like, overtime.
But it's like, we just.
To your point, we just madeyou all this money.
Yeah, go ahead and pay the overtime.
Like, we just took care of youfor A very long time.
Like chill out with like thelogistics of what you have to do
and just pay your people.
Yeah.
You might not enjoy it, butpay them.
(24:02):
Sure.
This venue also will take acut of your merch.
Like it's.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean it's a beautiful placeand they have a lot of nice shows
there.
But that is kind of like.
I mean, I had a friend thereselling koozies and they're like,
you're gonna take 20 of my 140merch sale of koozies.
(24:24):
I was like, okay, cool.
But whatever.
Yeah.
But yeah, super nice venue andthe show was great.
I'm like, I'm like cleaning itup now.
I was like, it was totally fine.
Besides that they kicked usout early.
Work there anytime, you guys.
Yeah, he was super dope andsuper nice and yeah, just very complimentary
(24:47):
of the show.
So that was, that was very cool.
And I'll post that interviewon the Patreon so people can see
it.
Awesome, dude.
Sweet, man.
But I had a question.
This is anonymous.
This was anonymous.
They want to make sure I keptit anonymous.
I love anonymous.
It was kind of a two parter.
They said on the next podcast,can you, Yoshi, talk about how you
(25:10):
feel about comedians trying togain followers by commenting on other
famous comedians posts?
And they said, I also forgotto tell you, Dusty Slay said he takes
notes on stage on New materialMondays at Zany's.
I guess because I say don'ttake notes on stage.
But it's not, it's just, it'snot a law.
(25:33):
It's a personal preference forme not to have notes on stage.
And I feel like youngercomics, the notes can become a crutch
for sure and break some sortof discomfort they have.
And I think younger comics canlearn from persevering through resistance.
(25:54):
Like, oh, you forgot your jokeon stage.
Okay.
What now you have to survivein this moment.
I think that's more valuablethan this joke you're not going to
be doing in three months.
Oh.
Learning how to be morepresent and confident on stage through
that discomfort.
That's.
Confidence is the name of thegame in comedy.
And stage is where you gainthat confidence.
(26:14):
But I see, Yeah, I mean,comics have shot specials with notes
like, I'm not saying it's alaw, but personally preference.
I don't like notes on stage.
I know you've said theopposite and that's fine.
But I love she.
She.
They.
Sorry, I don't want to.
She.
He.
I don't want to say who it Was.
Yeah, but I love.
They threw that in there, bythe way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
(26:39):
Check yourself, Joel.
But, yeah, it's new materialMonday, so everyone's trying new
stuff.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
And also more geared at youngcomics, is what I was saying.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and I get, like.
Your point is very valid.
Like, it's.
It's good just to, like,challenge yourself when you kind
of don't know your material,to figure out what to do in that
(27:02):
situation, because that isreal life.
You're going to get to a spotwhere you're performing, and then
even though you memorize yourentire set and you know what you're
going to say, you may justforget or you get a laugh somewhere
that you're not expecting itand don't know what to do.
So it's good just to know whatto do in that moment, in that situation,
which is to your point.
(27:23):
Why not taking notes on stagehelps you out, because then you're
in the moment versus havingthe crutch of trying to go back and
trying to follow.
Oh, what am I.
Where am I supposed to go nextin my set?
Or where.
What am I supposed to do next?
So it's very, very valid.
But, you know, Dusty Slay cando whatever he wants.
That's the other thing I thinkwe have to also remember sometimes.
(27:45):
I think when comedians, Iforget who said it, but it was very
good advice about how youshouldn't be trying to do what, like,
the greats are doing.
You need to do the thing thatthe person above you is doing.
So if you're an open micr, youneed to try to do the stuff that
(28:06):
people who are showcasing are doing.
If you're a showcase person,you need to do the things that people
who are featuring are doing.
And if you're featuring, youneed to do the things that headliners
are doing.
And if you're a headliner, youneed to do the things that people
who are doing stadiums are doing.
Like, that's the level versustrying to do the stuff that Chappelle,
you know, Bill Burr, KevinHart, like, we are, y' all, we're.
(28:33):
The levels are different, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Gap in the things that theyare thinking about and the things
that they are walking through.
So Dusty Slay is a bonafide.
He's starting to do like, he's doing.
Theaters, selling out, bigtheaters now Netflix specials, like
on.
(28:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, George Wallace, who isone of the most, like, absolutely
most prolific writers, takesnotes on stage, when he's trying
out material, a huge note,it's like a.
It's like a 90s yellow padthat has like.
And when you like when he ripmoves the next.
(29:14):
It's a huge movement of like this.
It's a.
It's a long pad.
It's not even a regular eightand a half.
It's like a scroll.
It's a scroll dude of just notes.
And he crushes with that stuffbecause he's just a prolific writer
and he's just like writing andthen trying stuff out.
So.
So I think when you get tothat stage, you get to break the
(29:35):
rules a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
I was just thinking newercomics, it could be a crutch more
than like.
The initial question was whatwas the first part of the question?
Okay, yeah, that had nothingto do with her question.
She just.
Or they, he, they.
Oh, just wanted to slide thatin there.
Oh, by the way, Dusty Slayuses notes.
(29:57):
But the question was about howdo we feel about comedians trying
to gain followers bycommenting on famous comedians posts.
Yeah.
Get it.
How you live.
Like it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I mean, I think this is one ofthose things that it's very obvious
(30:20):
that the algorithm is tellingus that that's an okay thing to do.
Right.
Which is just that response.
But response videos havealways been a thing.
But.
And comedian clips are hugeright now.
Comedy is a huge algorithmicsuccess for all of social media.
(30:43):
Comedy clips, crowd work clips.
Probably more comedy clips nowthan crowd work used to be.
It's not as big right nowunless you're like some people like
a Matt Rife who still does thecrowd clips.
But.
But even they were his.
His guy was saying that theydon't hit like they used to.
Like the algorithm isn'tprioritizing that as much as it used
to back when they were first starting.
(31:05):
He said the view.
I mean they're doing fine, of course.
But yeah, he said the viewsare down on that style of content
now.
Absolutely.
So there's a different styleof content, of just funny, relatable
content stuff.
And people like reactions atthe end of the day.
Like reactions have alwaysbeen a thing.
I mean if you think aboutYouTube and the amount of YouTube
(31:26):
videos of people reacting tomusic videos, people reacting to
news, people reacting to stuffthat people doing just commentary
on that stuff, it almost feels like.
It's just.
It's almost like a in personpodcast where you're Just commenting
on things that you find interesting.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I don't have any issues with it.
(31:47):
I think though, the key is ifyou're doing it for the sake of that's
what you think is going to hitfrom a viral perspective, then that
feels like you're not doing itfor the right reasons.
If you're doing it becauselike you're really interested in
it, then for sure go ahead anddo that.
But if you're like, oh, I wantto do this just so I can try to pop
(32:10):
on Instagram, then that justfeels very inauthentic and you know,
then you have to ask yourself,what are you actually doing it for?
Like.
Exactly.
Yeah.
As long as you're not trolling.
Yeah.
Trying to get off on some sortof controversy or whatnot.
It's.
Yeah.
Like why are you doing it?
Basically.
Yeah, that's a great questionto ask yourself before you even do
(32:34):
try something like that.
But that's not even something.
I don't, I guess I don'tnotice it, but I guess comics are
doing that.
That.
But I don't.
Yeah, I don't have an issuewith this.
There's a lot of, lot of clipsof rotated Joe Rogan, Theo von Bobby
Lee and a couple of just thebig podcast of just people reacting
(32:57):
to those clips of justresponding to it as if though they're
just making commentary.
I mean, there's an entire guyon YouTube that just finds controversy
in what's happening in thejoke ecosystem, I mean the comedy
ecosystem, and just talksabout the beefs between comics or
(33:17):
beefs in scenes, all thisother stuff.
It's like that's really whatyou want to do.
Sure.
But is that going to.
I mean, I think that's theother thing.
Is someone going to come andsee you at a show for that?
You know what I mean?
Sure, you can do it online inYouTube, but will someone pay money
for that commentary?
(33:37):
And I think that's thedifference is like at the end of
the day we're still a businesswhere you make the majority of your
money by people coming to see you.
Live performances is whereyour bread really is made.
You know what I mean?
Like Theo Vaughn.
Yes.
He's got this huge podcast,but he tours like he sells out stadiums.
(34:00):
Like he's like still doing bigtime shows.
Yes.
Andrew Schultz is verypopular, but he sells out Madison
Square Garden.
Yes.
The podcast helps, but he'sstill doing tons of weekends.
Yep.
Yeah.
And it's.
Yeah.
So as long as you'recommenting on these posts from.
Yeah.
(34:21):
Place.
Yeah.
Ask yourself why you're doingit basically.
And I guess it could work.
Gaining followers fromcommenting on a post is an interesting
strategy.
Considered thought about it.
But I have nothing.
As long as there's no mal intent.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't have issueswith it.
Clearly this person probablyhas a strong opinion and maybe is
(34:42):
annoyed by this and is like,what do you guys think of this?
Because it's such a specific question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, as long as you'renot hurting anybody.
I don't, I don't have issueswith it.
Really?
Yeah.
That's funny.
I just love how specific thequestion is.
(35:03):
I feel like they posted thisafter seeing a lot of it and being
frustrated.
Like, what are we doing here?
Oh, and by the way, dusty slow.
That's one of those thingswhere you like, I.
I do this where I don't likesomething online.
So I just keep watching thatthing that I don't enjoy.
And then the algorithm thinksI really enjoy this because I keep
(35:25):
watching.
And then you're like, I hate this.
And then you're angry andyou're like, why are people doing
this?
And so, yeah, I think they gotto that point where they're just
hate watching pretty much.
Joe.
Joe Mackey had this hilariousjoke when I worked with him.
I don't want like give awaythe whole bit, but it was basically
like, he's friends with Mato Lane.
(35:45):
Yeah.
Who's like a very well knowncomedian who's gay.
And he like posts pictures andSpeedos a lot and stuff.
So he had this joke about howthe algorithm, he liked a photo of
mate Mateo as a friend, buthe's like, but the algorithm thought
that's what I like now.
So he was served up all this different.
It's a whole bit I don't wantto like give away, but it was just
(36:06):
so funny.
That reminded me of that.
Yeah.
But that's true though.
Like, even if you're like, ohyeah, I support this.
And then the algorithm's like,oh, you like a lot of this?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm.
I'm currently going through.
I'm trying to replace it.
I've been watching like justnature videos of lions, like in the
(36:26):
wild, like hunting animals.
Oh my God.
Literally thinks that that'swhat like I enjoy.
Like, I liked one video.
One video.
And then all of a sudden itjust became a thing now.
I was like, why don't you dothat with my comedy clips, y' all
Serve that up to other people, please.
(36:48):
What are we doing here?
Yeah, I'm hunting these jokes, somebody.
All right, well, let's.
Let's land the plane.
I've got.
I've got family coming over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The baby.
But I'm glad we snuck that.
(37:09):
We got up early for this, y' all.
We want to make sure we stillgot it in.
I just dropped off the kidsand came straight.
Yep, yep, yep.
So we appreciate all support.
Thanks for asking questions.
And it's always great to seeall out in the shows and stuff, so
feel free to keep hitting usup, join our Facebook group.
(37:30):
There's a lot of other gooddiscussions going on in there.
Hot breath.
Yeah.
Those of you watching onPatreon Yoshi is wearing the OG Hot
breath shirt with the originaltagline caffeinate your ears, which
means nothing.
Start.
This was the start, baby.
Purple and white was the color scheme.
(37:54):
Caffeinate your ears literallysays nothing about the show, but
it says everything at the same time.
But, yeah, if you guys want tobook us for stuff, we're both available
for booking on shows and stuffas well, so hit us up on social media.
Yeah, we do clean, we do dirty.
We do it all.
Maybe Joel won't do dirty.
He might have to.
(38:14):
He might have to have, like, a.
Beer in my system.
We'll see a little alky in the system.
Dirty stuff.
So, yeah, we are available for bookings.
Feel free to hit us up aboutthat, and we'll see you all next
week.
Bye.
Bye.
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