November 16, 2024 • 28 mins
Hey there, and welcome back to How It’s Really Going! After a long break, I’m here to share what’s been on my mind and what’s next for this podcast. If you’ve been around since the early days, you’ll know this space has evolved over the years—from Girlfriend’s Guide to Network Marketing to Keeping It Real with Shana Recker, and now to this version: a mix of life, business, and everything in between.
The Journey So Far I started podcasting back in 2016, aiming to share honest and vulnerable conversations about business, life, and personal growth. It’s been a rollercoaster. Over the years, I’ve shifted from network marketing to online business coaching, to doing done-for-you services in graphic design and Kajabi, which has been my primary focus for the past year and a half. It’s been refreshing to work behind the scenes, supporting amazing clients without the constant pressure of social media.
Why I’m Back Even when I’ve stepped away, I couldn’t stop thinking about this podcast. It’s like therapy for me—a way to connect, share, and help others feel less alone in their journeys. I’m feeling more stable and ready to commit, even if it’s just once or twice a month. This podcast is going to be a space for real talk: about business, entrepreneurship, life as a midlife woman navigating hormones, parenting adult kids, and even the ups and downs of creativity.
What’s Next Moving forward, you can expect a mix of:
- Business tips for service providers and clients
- Real talk about life and entrepreneurship
- Personal updates and reflections on navigating midlife challenges
- Whatever feels relevant—because that’s what How It’s Really Going is all about.
A Special Thank You To everyone who’s stuck around, subscribed, and supported me through all the changes—thank you. Your messages and feedback remind me why I love this so much. I’m excited to dive back in and share this journey with you.
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- Podcast Inspiration: Chalene Johnson
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Shana (00:00):
Oh, Hey there.
Welcome back to how it's reallygoing with Shana.
Recker and I am still here.
I have been thinking about thispodcast.
Nonstop, for the last fewmonths.
And as you know, has been a bitsince have uploaded an episode
of this is the first time you'recatching me.
Just know that I have had zeroconsistency with this podcast in
(00:21):
the last couple of years.
And I don't like that, but atthe same time, For me where I've
been in the last few years, justwith everything that's been
going on.
That's all I could give.
That's really all I had and Icouldn't commit, I can't, I'm
not even sure if I can stillcommit to any kind of real
consistency for this.
But the thing is, is I can'tstop thinking about this podcast
(00:45):
and what to do with it.
I've had a podcast since 2016.
I started my podcast withgirlfriend's guide to network
marketing back when I used to bea top network marketer, I had a
big team.
And I started doing a bit ofnetwork marketing coaching, and
then that led to me doingbusiness coaching.
And then my podcast turned intokeeping it real with Shana.
(01:05):
Recker talking about just onlinebusiness and stuff.
And keeping it real was thepodcast name, I think for a
good, at least a couple ofyears.
And then I switched it to howit's really going with Shana.
Recker.
And it's funny because when youthink about keeping it real and
how it's really going.
And even girlfriend's guide tonetwork marketing.
At the base of all of that.
(01:27):
And this has always been kind ofhow I feel about having a
podcast and why I wanted to havea podcast was too.
Bring real true.
Honest.
Vulnerable conversations.
To the world.
About business and marketing andall of these things.
And since has evolved to evennow just being a hormonal,
(01:51):
almost 50 year old womannavigating life, plus being an
entrepreneur, all of thesethings, bringing those real
honest conversations to thetable and helping other people
feel normal, in what they'regoing through because.
For this podcast, even back downto girlfriend's guide to network
marketing has always just beenabout like, I know.
In the online space, everythinglooks shiny and pretty and
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perfect, and people have do areally good job of making you
believe that.
Everything in their life isgoing, just so great.
And not that I want to have apodcast.
That's a Debbie downer talkingabout all the things that are
going shitty, but.
I do also want to be real andtalk about some of the struggles
and talk about some of thethings that you go through and
(02:33):
grow through as an entrepreneurand even as a female, as
somebody who's, in that stage ofeven menopause perimenopause
and.
Talking about all the things,kids life, you know, all the
things.
And bringing it all to the tableand having those real.
Vulnerable conversations so thatit helps people know that
they're not alone.
(02:54):
And that we're all kind of inthis, doing this together, and
it's not perfect and it neverwill be, and there are going to
be struggles, but that's normal.
And that.
In order to have, whether it bea successful business or
fulfilling life or whatever,that it doesn't come without the
struggles and without thesevulnerabilities.
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And to bring some of that to thetable so that people can relate
and keep moving forward becausethey know they're not alone.
I guess that's really at thecore.
I didn't, I didn'tintentionally.
Set that for my podcast.
When I first heard it created, Ijust wanted to help people,
build network marketingbusinesses, give them their tip,
my tips and stuff.
And then when it evolved tobusiness marketing, same sort of
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thing, you know how to startonline business.
Here's what I've learned.
And.
Then, you know, and, and evenwith how it's really going with
Shannon wrecker was the samesort of thing.
It's like, Hey, I'm anentrepreneur, I'm a female.
I'm midlife.
Here's how it's really going,how I'm getting through the day,
with all of these things.
And so I love that and I don'twant that to change.
(03:57):
And so I share this with youbecause I'm in this place where
I can't stop thinking about thispodcast.
I love podcasting.
I love talking.
I love sharing.
Sometimes I overshare.
Sometimes I say word things.
Sometimes I ramble.
Sometimes I have really goodfucking points.
And I love it all.
And I love the feedback that Iget from it.
(04:17):
I love it.
When you guys message me andsay, I've listened to your
podcast, I can totally relate.
I feel that, I love that becausethat that's the whole purpose of
me being here and showing up anddoing this.
And so I can't stop thinkingabout that.
And, and as much as I've steppedaway from this podcast, for
times like months at a time, Iwant you to know that I'm, even
(04:38):
though in those moments, I justdon't have the capacity to do
the podcast.
I still think about it and Istill want to be here.
And so I, I've had multipleconversations with Jason.
My has been about.
You know where I'm at in life.
And I'm going to give you a bitof an update here in a second
and what I want for 2025 and thegrowth of my business.
(04:59):
And so the podcast, thispodcast.
In all of the years I've beendoing this.
It just is the one thing I can'tgive up.
And I don't know why.
I don't know what it means.
I'm not sure if there'ssomething here for me.
But it's the thing that I'm mostdrawn to get back to
consistently and regularly.
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And I feel like I just didn'thave the capacity for that over
the last couple of years,because there's been a lot
happening in my life.
But I'm starting to feel likeI'm better.
I'm starting to feel like I'm inmore in control of my hormones
and my feelings and my life andeverything, even though it's
(05:42):
still not perfect.
Cause really nothing is, but,it's definitely better.
And I feel that I'm at a placenow where I could at least
consistently, even if it wasjust once a month.
Come to the table and just talkwith you guys.
The other struggle that I havewith the podcast is feeling
like.
I need to have a, uh, a specificpurpose or a specific sort of
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topic for this podcast to makeit make sense.
Like, why is somebody just goingto tune in to listen to me
ramble?
Right?
Like, why is somebody going tojust going to, to have a
podcast?
That's about nothing.
That's just about, Hey, here'swhere I'm at in life.
Like.
To me that just didn't feel likeit made sense.
I feel like my brain wants it tomake sense as to why I'm showing
up here.
And talking with all of you.
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Part of me says, who gives ashit?
Like you just come to themicrophone when you have
something to share and you feelit's relevant and don't worry
about a specific purpose ortopic or whatever.
For your podcast.
Cause that's one of the reasonswhy I called this podcast, how
it's really going, because Iwant to share with you how it's
really going in my life, whetherit's business related, whether
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it's, uh life-related whetherit's hormone related, whether
it's kid related.
This is just, these are thethings that I'm dealing with Dan
and day out as an entrepreneur,as a wife, as a mom, as a
mid-life.
Perimenopausal woman.
This is what I'm dealing with.
And if it helps somebody byhearing that, then, then great.
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And my, but my brain is fightingthat it's like, if you're going
to have a podcast, it needs tohave a specific purpose.
Like when I had, girlfriendsguides, network marketing.
Well, yeah, I'm here helpinggirlfriend.
I'm helping my friends, girlsout there who are like me, who
are starting network marketing.
Become successful.
And so it made sense.
Like my that's why I did thepodcast.
And now I don't like I am inthis conflict where I, my brain
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is like, you need a purpose, youneed a specific reason.
Why are you showing up?
But then the other side is like,you don't fucking need a reason.
You can just show up and talkabout whatever the hell you
want.
It doesn't matter.
You can do whatever you want.
It's your podcast.
And if people like it, They'llsh they'll stay and they'll
listen.
And if they don't.
They'll go.
Who cares?
You're not doing this.
You're doing this for youbecause this honestly is therapy
(07:56):
for me, like to be able to justsit here and talk.
And tell you whatever thefrigate is that I want to tell
you.
I think my last podcast that Idid was about.
How I was feeling with my adultfriendships.
Now, adult friendships werehard.
And that wasn't not an easypodcast to record, but it was
something that was really on myheart.
And when I shared that episodeand I spoke those words and I
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got it out of my system, I feltso much better.
I even had some friends messagedme about that podcast, which
made me feel really,, positiveabout it.
I realized like this is anoutlet for me, as much as it is
a space to bring people togetherso they can feel like they're
not alone.
It's like it's, it's a give andtake.
And for whatever reason, myheart is just drawn to come back
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to this in a regular capacity.
And make it.
Whatever it is like not, not totry and make it something, but
just let it be and just talk.
So with that being said, I'mgoing to give you a little
update on my life and businessand all the things.
But I am.
Going to loosely commit.
(09:01):
I don't want to make any kind ofmajor commitments, but I am
going to really work on comingback consistently to this
podcast.
And even like I said, if it'sonce a month or twice a month,
And see how it goes, because Ifeel like I'm in a place now
where I am more stable and readyto.
(09:21):
Get my toes back in the water.
And this is so as part of theupdates.
as you guys know.
And if you haven't, I mean, youcan listen to some of my back,
my last few episodes to kind ofget a handle.
If you're new to this.
As to where I'm at.
just even saying I'm a 49 yearold hormonal paramount, a
menopausal woman.
My life in the last couple ofyears, just feel like it, it got
flipped upside down where I wasdoing online business coaching.
(09:44):
I was doing that for a goodwhile since, you know, solidly
since 2020.
So at least three to four years.
And, well, actually, I guess itwould have been three years
because I shut it down in thebeginning of 2023, because I
just was at a place where I wasburnt out from being on social
media, selling coachingprograms.
(10:05):
You know, having to show upevery day on, on, on Instagram.
Cause that's, if, if you'reanybody who's trying to make it
in online business coaching, yougotta be on Instagram, you know,
that kind of deal.
And to be honest, it was just,it was so much for me that I
just.
I think it was like acombination of hormones and just
me feeling like I couldn't do itanymore.
(10:27):
I was forcing it.
And I was not happy.
And I was starting to feelresentful with the work that I
was doing.
And even though I created somereally amazing programs, I do
say my client attractor program.
I love it.
I actually had an old clientreach out.
And say, do I still have accessto this?
Because that program was reallygreat and I am, I've got to get
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back in, I'm doing some newthings and I want to go back
through the content.
And I was like, looking back atthat program, I was like, damn,
this was really good.
Like I loved working.
I love business.
I love.
Online business.
But I didn't love marketingmyself and using social media,
do that, feeling that feeling ofhaving to show up every single
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day and share something onstories and make a post and all
that kind of shit.
So.
I backed away from pretty mucheverything.
And, some of you guys know, Ialso started doing some art on
the side.
Which then I tried to turn thatinto a business, which I just
learned.
That those of us who have ADHD,we have these amazing brains.
(11:29):
That just want to turneverything into a friggin
business.
And I heard that.
I can't remember where I heardthat from, but I heard that from
like some ADHD.
Psychologist or something likethat, that, that ADHD is are
there.
They're really greatentrepreneurs.
But we also have a tendency toturn every hobby into a
business.
And when I heard that, I waslike, oh shit.
(11:51):
Yep.
That's me for sure.
And here I had this art hobbythat I was loving and sharing on
social media and sharing that onsocial media was wasn't hard for
me because I wasn't trying tosell anything.
I was just sharing my processand like, even to this day, I
mean, I stopped selling my art.
I just do it for fun.
But I turned that into abusiness or I tried to but then
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I realized that I was turning itinto a business.
I could feel myself getting backto the old ways that I used to
sell on my coaching business,where it felt like I started
having to show up.
If I was going to sell a pieceof art, I had to be online all
the time.
I have to be painting all thetime.
I have to be showing my processall the time.
And it started to feel like workagain.
And it wasn't a hobby that wasjust for me.
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So I did stop selling my art andI just do my art for fun.
And it's just for me.
And I'm going to keep it thatway.
Because I don't need to turnevery hobby into a business.
So by doing that though, becausehere's the thing, like, I just,
I'm thinking out loud, as I'msaying this.
When you want to turn everythinginto a business, what ends up
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happening is you get yourself sobusy with all of these
businesses that you don't giveyourself time.
To recharge to rest, to relax,to not be working.
And I can say I am somebody whocan easily say I've been
addicted to work.
I do love what I do.
I do love working, especially asan entrepreneur.
I love working on my ownbusiness.
I love working with my clients.
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But when you work from home,It's so easy to work on a
Friday, Saturday, Sunday,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like
it all just every day, turnsinto workdays.
And you don't give yourself thattime to recharge.
So by stepping back fromactually having my art be a
business, I gave myself timeagain.
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To have time away.
So I have been in the past, Iwould say probably a year and a
half ago is when I reallystarted doing the done for you
services.
So I got away from businesscoaching, but my background,
that I went to school for andmy, my skillset is graphic
design.
And so I went back to my rootsand I started offering some of
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my past coaching clients.
The opportunity to use myskills.
If they wanted me to build theirwebsites or do graphic design
work for them, logos, all thatkind of stuff.
I was like, Hey, I'm justreaching out because I'm not
sure what I'm going to do withmy life.
But.
I can do this work and I'm happyto help you if you need some
stuff.
And I actually had clients reachout to me saying, Hey, would you
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be open to, doing some Kajabiwork for me or whatever.
And Kajabi is the platform thata lot of my clients in my
business coaching world, Use tobuild their courses and their
websites and all that kind ofstuff.
And I had used that as well.
I really spent a lot of time inthat software for my own
business.
So I just started.
Doing some work for otherpeople.
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And that was about a year and ahalf ago and it really took off
and I just was doing it to do itbecause I didn't know what else
to do.
And I really actually enjoyedthe work because it didn't
require me to be on social mediabecause I had people coming to
me.
And work was just coming in andthen Kajabi, uh, started a
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Kajabi experts.
Um, Platform for they were, theyvetted some of their Kajabi
designers.
And if you got vetted andapproved, you were considered a
Kajabi expert.
You got put into the expert.
Um, portal and people who usethe software.
Can go to this portal and findan expert to help them with
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their design stuff.
And so that was really good forme.
I became a part of that.
So I, I didn't really need toadvertise.
So my Instagram that I was usingfor business coaching, I kind of
winded that down and just let itsit there cause I didn't need
it.
I was still doing some art stufffor sure.
On my art Instagram.
And just using that for fun, butmy done for you services
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business really took off andit's, it's been a great year.
I'm not going to lie.
This past year.
I've worked with some amazingpeople.
I've created some, some greatwebsites, how people build their
businesses.
I still got to do a bit ofbusiness coaching with a lot of
my clients because a lot ofthem.
Need advice and tips and I getit.
I know what they need.
So it's been great for mebecause I've been able to keep
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my, my foot in the.
Coaching side of things a bit,but yet being able to be, quiet
and in my own space and justworking on the things and not
having to be out there on socialmedia so much.
And that's been the last yearand a half, and I feel like.
I've given myself space todevelop that without any
pressure and.
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I think because in the businesscoaching space, I always felt
pressure.
Like I needed to be at a certainmonthly income I needed to.
Cause you know that in thatspace, they, they promote that
like, They drill that into yourhead that you're not successful
unless you're making.
10 K 20 K a hundred K months andall this bullshit stuff out
there.
And that was exhausting and it'sexhausting as a business coach
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to think that if you're notdoing that, that you're failing.
And so when I let go of that andI let go of.
Of trying to be something.
and trying to push for somethingthat just wasn't really working.
And I let myself just, I dunno.
Fly by the seat of my pants andjust figure things out as I was
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going and not putting anypressure on myself.
That's when things reallystarted to work.
And I didn't know it for thefirst, probably six months that
this was, this was working andthat things were happening.
But looking back now a year anda half later.
I can see, I can see it.
It's so clear.
I've I released.
My need for.
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Needing to be successful atsomething.
And just allowed myself to dowhat felt right in the moment.
And that's, I believe that's whythings started to come together
because I, I released thepressure.
And allowed what was going toflow my way, flow my way.
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And so today I am.
Done for you services.
That is my main business.
I feel now that because I'vegiven myself the space to really
discover.
What was right for me.
I am feeling more like I want tomake not, not make, so I gotta
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be careful with my words here.
I want this.
I want to protect what I'vecreated and not that it really
needs protection.
Cause I'm just letting it flowstill.
I'm still in that, that, thatnice space.
But I want to make it somethingthat is solid.
And I.
I have been underground doingthis work and it's been great.
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But now I feel like I want tohave a bit more of a presence.
I want to create.
I want it.
I want my outer business toreflect what's going on.
Inside my office day in and dayout.
If that makes any sense.
And I feel like I could helpmore people.
If I did put myself out there.
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A bit more and without pressure,without feeling like I need to
show up in every day and be instories and all this stuff all
the time, because here's thething, even though that was hard
for me in the end, I felt thepressure was too much for me.
I did enjoy creating content.
I did enjoy putting out posts.
I did enjoy talking to mystories because it's much like
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talking on this podcast.
It's it's you getting on theresaying something that you feel
is relevant and, hoping it helpssomebody kind of thing.
So it's same, same butdifferent.
But I did enjoy that.
I just feel like for a couple ofyears there, I just didn't have
the capacity to do it becausewhen your hormones are fucked
up, Like they are inperimenopause.
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there were days that I couldn'teven talk to anyone in my
family.
Because I would wake up withanxiety and what felt like
depression.
And I just wanted to cry.
I just wanted to just have mycoffee and not be around anyone.
And.
Those days were reallydifficult.
And those came and went on aconsistent basis.
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It would be like two or three orfour days of that.
And then I get some relief for abit, and then that would creep
back in again.
And sometimes I'd be angry.
Sometimes I'd be sad.
Sometimes I was just nothing.
I didn't feel anything.
Some few days I might be happy.
And it's really hard to show upon social media.
When you feel like that whenyour emotions are all over the
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place.
And then when you've got thatadded pressure of feeling like
if you don't show up.
You're irrelevant.
And here you are like ready tocry your eyes out at any given
second.
And now you feel like if youstill have to go online and show
up, because if not your businessis going to die, that is not
fun.
And, and for me, I needed toclose it all down.
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In order to figure out what wasgoing on.
And I'm grateful that I have avery supportive husband who.
did his own research for where Iwas at and understood.
What was happening and was ableto., help me maneuver through
this and take care of the familyneeds and stuff.
While I was going through all ofthis.
And I'm grateful that Iadvocated for myself.
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I struggled getting hormonalsupport in the beginning with my
doctor and continued to push,push, push until someone I did
find a doctor who did get me on,on hormones and.
I finally feel like I'm at aplace where I am in control of
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my emotions, even though I stillhave days don't get me wrong.
I know Jason's probablylistening to this and he's like,
Probably thinking, wait, what.
I do still have my moments, butthere it's not as intense.
And I feel like I can controlit, or I notice it more so I
can.
I just better manage it.
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And we're for a while there Iwas, I feel like I was out of
control.
I had no control.
I just would wake up and itwould be like rolling the dice,
what hormones are lacking todayand how does it make me feel as
am I sad?
Am I angry at my neutral?
Am I nothing?
What is it?
And so.
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You know, it explains, I lookback and I go, okay, well, it
makes sense why I wanted to shutmy business down.
Why I didn't want to show up onsocial media, why I was, you
know, feeling like nothing wasright.
Because when you, when yourhormones are out of whack, like
that, Nothing.
Nothing seems right.
And so it makes sense.
Now do I regret any of thatstuff?
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No, I've said it before.
I don't regret shutting thatdown.
I feel like everything happensfor a reason and I really like
the place I'm in right now in myentrepreneurial journey.
Like the done for you work thatI'm doing.
I like that.
It still allows me to do a bitof business coaching.
I feel really confident in thework that I do and the support
that I give my clients.
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Where, when I was businesscoaching, I would question
myself a lot and like, am I anygood at this?
Am I.
You know, am I actually helpingpeople?
And I can see the results reallywell and what I'm doing right
now through my clients.
I couldn't necessarily alwayssee their results before,
because.
You know, a coaching client,it's, it's what they do with the
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information.
And if they're not successful,you don't feel successful.
And sometimes they do the rightthings with the information and
they, they can build somethingout of it.
And a lot of times they justdon't.
And so you can't be responsiblefor their results if they're not
implementing what you're askingor what you're sharing, you know
what I'm saying?
So.
We're here.
I'm the one doing it for them.
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I mean, they still have to takewhat I do for them and, and
implement it.
But at the end of the day, my,my business I'm responsible for
making something look goodfunction, do what you needed to
do.
It's your job as the client totake that and then go out and do
whatever it is you do.
And so I feel like I'm reallydelivering on what I'm saying.
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I'm delivering and it's workingI feel a lot more confident in
what I'm doing now, and I feel alot more stable and I feel.
I don't want to over hype thisbecause sometimes I'm like,
okay, you're feeling really goodtoday, but you don't know how
you're going to feel next week.
But I feel like I haveconsistently felt like things
are more stable and I'm ready.
Too.
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Start.
Dipping my toe back out into thebranding social media podcast
space.
And building back up my brandexternally and seeing what
happens and.
Again, coming back to thispodcast.
I don't know how this podcastfits into this whole equation.,
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I feel like I have morecapacity.
To be more consistent and notonly to be more consistent with
podcasts and all those things,but also in like my personal
life, like I got away frommeditation, journaling, reading
books that are feeding my brainand just some of that stuff that
I really got away from, I gotaway from all the personal
development stuff for a while.
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Cause again, it was just likeall too much.
And I think I'm ready to evenbring back some of those
positive habits and into my lifeand bring some, a little bit
more structure, a little bitmore routine.
And really work on.
This next level of, of me andthis next level of this business
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that I'm now in and being reallyproud of the work that I do and
the business that I've created.
And.
See where it takes me and.
This podcast, I feel like willbe a combination of.
Sharing business tips still andsharing.
So business tips for serviceproviders, business tips for
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clients who need to work withservice providers.
Also life stuff,entrepreneurship stuff, being a
midlife.
A woman dealing with hormonesand entrepreneurship, and also
potentially talking about beingempty nesters and having kids
who are grown and what that'slike that probably will sneak
into the podcast somewherebecause.
The whole thing with thispodcast and calling it how it's
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really going was I wanted a nameand a vibe for this space to be
like, Hey, I'm going to come tothe mic and I'm going to tell
you how it's really going.
And that could be a variety ofthings.
And some positive, some noteverything's going to be a, Hey,
here's a vulnerable, this suckedmoment.
Some of it's going to be, Hey,I've had a really good fucking
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year financially.
I might talk about those things.
I might talk about my kids.
I might talk about my dog forthat matter.
I don't even know what I'm goingto say.
But I do want to have someconsistency here with this.
I'm feeling called to it.
Um, I listened to one of thepodcasts that I've been
listening to a lot is ShayleneJohnson.
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And she has the same kind ofvibe.
She just talks about whatever'sgoing on in her life.
And I love that.
I relate to a lot of things thatshe says, and I'm like, I can do
this.
I can do this.
And we're going to see where itgoes.
And so that is a bit of a wholelot of updates.
A whole lot of ramble, a wholelot of where I'm at.
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If you resonate with any ofthis, I'm always here for you.
I have re.
Invigorated.
My Instagram.
so I do still have my artInstagram, which is Shana Recker
underscore art.
That's going to be more of mypersonal Instagram.
I will be sharing our morepersonal things on there.
The business.
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Instagram is the, I am ShanaRecker and that is the one that
I've going to reinvigorate.
I actually did a, my first postthere the other day, and I was
so pleasantly surprised by allof the.
Love and support that I got onthe first post of, of that
account.
In a long time.
And so it was made me reallyhappy to see people were excited
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that I would be coming back tothat platform.
So thank you guys for all ofthat.
And if you're listening to thisand you got to this point,
thanks for listening.
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for subscribing.
Thanks for staying subscribed.
Even though I have been.
Very erratic with my podcastschedule.
I really look forward to doingmore episodes and just sharing
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how it's really going.
And I hope that my stories ofhow it's really going help you.
And your journey to keep going.
To keep moving forward to growthrough these things and to know
that you're not alone.
And that's really what this isabout, and that's really why I
want to be here.
So.
Thank you.
Guys so much for listening.
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I appreciate you all.
I love you all and we'll see youin the next episode.
Bye for now.
Oh, Hey there.
Welcome back to how it's reallygoing with Shana.
Recker and I am still here.
I have been thinking about thispodcast.
Nonstop, for the last fewmonths.
And as you know, has been a bitsince have uploaded an episode
of this is the first time you'recatching me.
Just know that I have had zeroconsistency with this podcast in
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the last couple of years.
And I don't like that, but atthe same time, For me where I've
been in the last few years, justwith everything that's been
going on.
That's all I could give.
That's really all I had and Icouldn't commit, I can't, I'm
not even sure if I can stillcommit to any kind of real
consistency for this.
But the thing is, is I can'tstop thinking about this podcast
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and what to do with it.
I've had a podcast since 2016.
I started my podcast withgirlfriend's guide to network
marketing back when I used to bea top network marketer, I had a
big team.
And I started doing a bit ofnetwork marketing coaching, and
then that led to me doingbusiness coaching.
And then my podcast turned intokeeping it real with Shana.
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Recker talking about just onlinebusiness and stuff.
And keeping it real was thepodcast name, I think for a
good, at least a couple ofyears.
And then I switched it to howit's really going with Shana.
Recker.
And it's funny because when youthink about keeping it real and
how it's really going.
And even girlfriend's guide tonetwork marketing.
At the base of all of that.
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And this has always been kind ofhow I feel about having a
podcast and why I wanted to havea podcast was too.
Bring real true.
Honest.
Vulnerable conversations.
To the world.
About business and marketing andall of these things.
And since has evolved to evennow just being a hormonal,
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almost 50 year old womannavigating life, plus being an
entrepreneur, all of thesethings, bringing those real
honest conversations to thetable and helping other people
feel normal, in what they'regoing through because.
For this podcast, even back downto girlfriend's guide to network
marketing has always just beenabout like, I know.
In the online space, everythinglooks shiny and pretty and
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perfect, and people have do areally good job of making you
believe that.
Everything in their life isgoing, just so great.
And not that I want to have apodcast.
That's a Debbie downer talkingabout all the things that are
going shitty, but.
I do also want to be real andtalk about some of the struggles
and talk about some of thethings that you go through and
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grow through as an entrepreneurand even as a female, as
somebody who's, in that stage ofeven menopause perimenopause
and.
Talking about all the things,kids life, you know, all the
things.
And bringing it all to the tableand having those real.
Vulnerable conversations so thatit helps people know that
they're not alone.
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And that we're all kind of inthis, doing this together, and
it's not perfect and it neverwill be, and there are going to
be struggles, but that's normal.
And that.
In order to have, whether it bea successful business or
fulfilling life or whatever,that it doesn't come without the
struggles and without thesevulnerabilities.
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And to bring some of that to thetable so that people can relate
and keep moving forward becausethey know they're not alone.
I guess that's really at thecore.
I didn't, I didn'tintentionally.
Set that for my podcast.
When I first heard it created, Ijust wanted to help people,
build network marketingbusinesses, give them their tip,
my tips and stuff.
And then when it evolved tobusiness marketing, same sort of
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thing, you know how to startonline business.
Here's what I've learned.
And.
Then, you know, and, and evenwith how it's really going with
Shannon wrecker was the samesort of thing.
It's like, Hey, I'm anentrepreneur, I'm a female.
I'm midlife.
Here's how it's really going,how I'm getting through the day,
with all of these things.
And so I love that and I don'twant that to change.
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And so I share this with youbecause I'm in this place where
I can't stop thinking about thispodcast.
I love podcasting.
I love talking.
I love sharing.
Sometimes I overshare.
Sometimes I say word things.
Sometimes I ramble.
Sometimes I have really goodfucking points.
And I love it all.
And I love the feedback that Iget from it.
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I love it.
When you guys message me andsay, I've listened to your
podcast, I can totally relate.
I feel that, I love that becausethat that's the whole purpose of
me being here and showing up anddoing this.
And so I can't stop thinkingabout that.
And, and as much as I've steppedaway from this podcast, for
times like months at a time, Iwant you to know that I'm, even
(04:38):
though in those moments, I justdon't have the capacity to do
the podcast.
I still think about it and Istill want to be here.
And so I, I've had multipleconversations with Jason.
My has been about.
You know where I'm at in life.
And I'm going to give you a bitof an update here in a second
and what I want for 2025 and thegrowth of my business.
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And so the podcast, thispodcast.
In all of the years I've beendoing this.
It just is the one thing I can'tgive up.
And I don't know why.
I don't know what it means.
I'm not sure if there'ssomething here for me.
But it's the thing that I'm mostdrawn to get back to
consistently and regularly.
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And I feel like I just didn'thave the capacity for that over
the last couple of years,because there's been a lot
happening in my life.
But I'm starting to feel likeI'm better.
I'm starting to feel like I'm inmore in control of my hormones
and my feelings and my life andeverything, even though it's
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still not perfect.
Cause really nothing is, but,it's definitely better.
And I feel that I'm at a placenow where I could at least
consistently, even if it wasjust once a month.
Come to the table and just talkwith you guys.
The other struggle that I havewith the podcast is feeling
like.
I need to have a, uh, a specificpurpose or a specific sort of
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topic for this podcast to makeit make sense.
Like, why is somebody just goingto tune in to listen to me
ramble?
Right?
Like, why is somebody going tojust going to, to have a
podcast?
That's about nothing.
That's just about, Hey, here'swhere I'm at in life.
Like.
To me that just didn't feel likeit made sense.
I feel like my brain wants it tomake sense as to why I'm showing
up here.
And talking with all of you.
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Part of me says, who gives ashit?
Like you just come to themicrophone when you have
something to share and you feelit's relevant and don't worry
about a specific purpose ortopic or whatever.
For your podcast.
Cause that's one of the reasonswhy I called this podcast, how
it's really going, because Iwant to share with you how it's
really going in my life, whetherit's business related, whether
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it's, uh life-related whetherit's hormone related, whether
it's kid related.
This is just, these are thethings that I'm dealing with Dan
and day out as an entrepreneur,as a wife, as a mom, as a
mid-life.
Perimenopausal woman.
This is what I'm dealing with.
And if it helps somebody byhearing that, then, then great.
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And my, but my brain is fightingthat it's like, if you're going
to have a podcast, it needs tohave a specific purpose.
Like when I had, girlfriendsguides, network marketing.
Well, yeah, I'm here helpinggirlfriend.
I'm helping my friends, girlsout there who are like me, who
are starting network marketing.
Become successful.
And so it made sense.
Like my that's why I did thepodcast.
And now I don't like I am inthis conflict where I, my brain
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is like, you need a purpose, youneed a specific reason.
Why are you showing up?
But then the other side is like,you don't fucking need a reason.
You can just show up and talkabout whatever the hell you
want.
It doesn't matter.
You can do whatever you want.
It's your podcast.
And if people like it, They'llsh they'll stay and they'll
listen.
And if they don't.
They'll go.
Who cares?
You're not doing this.
You're doing this for youbecause this honestly is therapy
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for me, like to be able to justsit here and talk.
And tell you whatever thefrigate is that I want to tell
you.
I think my last podcast that Idid was about.
How I was feeling with my adultfriendships.
Now, adult friendships werehard.
And that wasn't not an easypodcast to record, but it was
something that was really on myheart.
And when I shared that episodeand I spoke those words and I
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got it out of my system, I feltso much better.
I even had some friends messagedme about that podcast, which
made me feel really,, positiveabout it.
I realized like this is anoutlet for me, as much as it is
a space to bring people togetherso they can feel like they're
not alone.
It's like it's, it's a give andtake.
And for whatever reason, myheart is just drawn to come back
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to this in a regular capacity.
And make it.
Whatever it is like not, not totry and make it something, but
just let it be and just talk.
So with that being said, I'mgoing to give you a little
update on my life and businessand all the things.
But I am.
Going to loosely commit.
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I don't want to make any kind ofmajor commitments, but I am
going to really work on comingback consistently to this
podcast.
And even like I said, if it'sonce a month or twice a month,
And see how it goes, because Ifeel like I'm in a place now
where I am more stable and readyto.
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Get my toes back in the water.
And this is so as part of theupdates.
as you guys know.
And if you haven't, I mean, youcan listen to some of my back,
my last few episodes to kind ofget a handle.
If you're new to this.
As to where I'm at.
just even saying I'm a 49 yearold hormonal paramount, a
menopausal woman.
My life in the last couple ofyears, just feel like it, it got
flipped upside down where I wasdoing online business coaching.
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I was doing that for a goodwhile since, you know, solidly
since 2020.
So at least three to four years.
And, well, actually, I guess itwould have been three years
because I shut it down in thebeginning of 2023, because I
just was at a place where I wasburnt out from being on social
media, selling coachingprograms.
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You know, having to show upevery day on, on, on Instagram.
Cause that's, if, if you'reanybody who's trying to make it
in online business coaching, yougotta be on Instagram, you know,
that kind of deal.
And to be honest, it was just,it was so much for me that I
just.
I think it was like acombination of hormones and just
me feeling like I couldn't do itanymore.
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I was forcing it.
And I was not happy.
And I was starting to feelresentful with the work that I
was doing.
And even though I created somereally amazing programs, I do
say my client attractor program.
I love it.
I actually had an old clientreach out.
And say, do I still have accessto this?
Because that program was reallygreat and I am, I've got to get
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back in, I'm doing some newthings and I want to go back
through the content.
And I was like, looking back atthat program, I was like, damn,
this was really good.
Like I loved working.
I love business.
I love.
Online business.
But I didn't love marketingmyself and using social media,
do that, feeling that feeling ofhaving to show up every single
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day and share something onstories and make a post and all
that kind of shit.
So.
I backed away from pretty mucheverything.
And, some of you guys know, Ialso started doing some art on
the side.
Which then I tried to turn thatinto a business, which I just
learned.
That those of us who have ADHD,we have these amazing brains.
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That just want to turneverything into a friggin
business.
And I heard that.
I can't remember where I heardthat from, but I heard that from
like some ADHD.
Psychologist or something likethat, that, that ADHD is are
there.
They're really greatentrepreneurs.
But we also have a tendency toturn every hobby into a
business.
And when I heard that, I waslike, oh shit.
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Yep.
That's me for sure.
And here I had this art hobbythat I was loving and sharing on
social media and sharing that onsocial media was wasn't hard for
me because I wasn't trying tosell anything.
I was just sharing my processand like, even to this day, I
mean, I stopped selling my art.
I just do it for fun.
But I turned that into abusiness or I tried to but then
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I realized that I was turning itinto a business.
I could feel myself getting backto the old ways that I used to
sell on my coaching business,where it felt like I started
having to show up.
If I was going to sell a pieceof art, I had to be online all
the time.
I have to be painting all thetime.
I have to be showing my processall the time.
And it started to feel like workagain.
And it wasn't a hobby that wasjust for me.
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So I did stop selling my art andI just do my art for fun.
And it's just for me.
And I'm going to keep it thatway.
Because I don't need to turnevery hobby into a business.
So by doing that though, becausehere's the thing, like, I just,
I'm thinking out loud, as I'msaying this.
When you want to turn everythinginto a business, what ends up
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happening is you get yourself sobusy with all of these
businesses that you don't giveyourself time.
To recharge to rest, to relax,to not be working.
And I can say I am somebody whocan easily say I've been
addicted to work.
I do love what I do.
I do love working, especially asan entrepreneur.
I love working on my ownbusiness.
I love working with my clients.
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But when you work from home,It's so easy to work on a
Friday, Saturday, Sunday,Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like
it all just every day, turnsinto workdays.
And you don't give yourself thattime to recharge.
So by stepping back fromactually having my art be a
business, I gave myself timeagain.
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To have time away.
So I have been in the past, Iwould say probably a year and a
half ago is when I reallystarted doing the done for you
services.
So I got away from businesscoaching, but my background,
that I went to school for andmy, my skillset is graphic
design.
And so I went back to my rootsand I started offering some of
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my past coaching clients.
The opportunity to use myskills.
If they wanted me to build theirwebsites or do graphic design
work for them, logos, all thatkind of stuff.
I was like, Hey, I'm justreaching out because I'm not
sure what I'm going to do withmy life.
But.
I can do this work and I'm happyto help you if you need some
stuff.
And I actually had clients reachout to me saying, Hey, would you
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be open to, doing some Kajabiwork for me or whatever.
And Kajabi is the platform thata lot of my clients in my
business coaching world, Use tobuild their courses and their
websites and all that kind ofstuff.
And I had used that as well.
I really spent a lot of time inthat software for my own
business.
So I just started.
Doing some work for otherpeople.
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And that was about a year and ahalf ago and it really took off
and I just was doing it to do itbecause I didn't know what else
to do.
And I really actually enjoyedthe work because it didn't
require me to be on social mediabecause I had people coming to
me.
And work was just coming in andthen Kajabi, uh, started a
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Kajabi experts.
Um, Platform for they were, theyvetted some of their Kajabi
designers.
And if you got vetted andapproved, you were considered a
Kajabi expert.
You got put into the expert.
Um, portal and people who usethe software.
Can go to this portal and findan expert to help them with
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their design stuff.
And so that was really good forme.
I became a part of that.
So I, I didn't really need toadvertise.
So my Instagram that I was usingfor business coaching, I kind of
winded that down and just let itsit there cause I didn't need
it.
I was still doing some art stufffor sure.
On my art Instagram.
And just using that for fun, butmy done for you services
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business really took off andit's, it's been a great year.
I'm not going to lie.
This past year.
I've worked with some amazingpeople.
I've created some, some greatwebsites, how people build their
businesses.
I still got to do a bit ofbusiness coaching with a lot of
my clients because a lot ofthem.
Need advice and tips and I getit.
I know what they need.
So it's been great for mebecause I've been able to keep
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my, my foot in the.
Coaching side of things a bit,but yet being able to be, quiet
and in my own space and justworking on the things and not
having to be out there on socialmedia so much.
And that's been the last yearand a half, and I feel like.
I've given myself space todevelop that without any
pressure and.
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I think because in the businesscoaching space, I always felt
pressure.
Like I needed to be at a certainmonthly income I needed to.
Cause you know that in thatspace, they, they promote that
like, They drill that into yourhead that you're not successful
unless you're making.
10 K 20 K a hundred K months andall this bullshit stuff out
there.
And that was exhausting and it'sexhausting as a business coach
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to think that if you're notdoing that, that you're failing.
And so when I let go of that andI let go of.
Of trying to be something.
and trying to push for somethingthat just wasn't really working.
And I let myself just, I dunno.
Fly by the seat of my pants andjust figure things out as I was
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going and not putting anypressure on myself.
That's when things reallystarted to work.
And I didn't know it for thefirst, probably six months that
this was, this was working andthat things were happening.
But looking back now a year anda half later.
I can see, I can see it.
It's so clear.
I've I released.
My need for.
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Needing to be successful atsomething.
And just allowed myself to dowhat felt right in the moment.
And that's, I believe that's whythings started to come together
because I, I released thepressure.
And allowed what was going toflow my way, flow my way.
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And so today I am.
Done for you services.
That is my main business.
I feel now that because I'vegiven myself the space to really
discover.
What was right for me.
I am feeling more like I want tomake not, not make, so I gotta
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be careful with my words here.
I want this.
I want to protect what I'vecreated and not that it really
needs protection.
Cause I'm just letting it flowstill.
I'm still in that, that, thatnice space.
But I want to make it somethingthat is solid.
And I.
I have been underground doingthis work and it's been great.
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But now I feel like I want tohave a bit more of a presence.
I want to create.
I want it.
I want my outer business toreflect what's going on.
Inside my office day in and dayout.
If that makes any sense.
And I feel like I could helpmore people.
If I did put myself out there.
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A bit more and without pressure,without feeling like I need to
show up in every day and be instories and all this stuff all
the time, because here's thething, even though that was hard
for me in the end, I felt thepressure was too much for me.
I did enjoy creating content.
I did enjoy putting out posts.
I did enjoy talking to mystories because it's much like
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talking on this podcast.
It's it's you getting on theresaying something that you feel
is relevant and, hoping it helpssomebody kind of thing.
So it's same, same butdifferent.
But I did enjoy that.
I just feel like for a couple ofyears there, I just didn't have
the capacity to do it becausewhen your hormones are fucked
up, Like they are inperimenopause.
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there were days that I couldn'teven talk to anyone in my
family.
Because I would wake up withanxiety and what felt like
depression.
And I just wanted to cry.
I just wanted to just have mycoffee and not be around anyone.
And.
Those days were reallydifficult.
And those came and went on aconsistent basis.
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It would be like two or three orfour days of that.
And then I get some relief for abit, and then that would creep
back in again.
And sometimes I'd be angry.
Sometimes I'd be sad.
Sometimes I was just nothing.
I didn't feel anything.
Some few days I might be happy.
And it's really hard to show upon social media.
When you feel like that whenyour emotions are all over the
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place.
And then when you've got thatadded pressure of feeling like
if you don't show up.
You're irrelevant.
And here you are like ready tocry your eyes out at any given
second.
And now you feel like if youstill have to go online and show
up, because if not your businessis going to die, that is not
fun.
And, and for me, I needed toclose it all down.
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In order to figure out what wasgoing on.
And I'm grateful that I have avery supportive husband who.
did his own research for where Iwas at and understood.
What was happening and was ableto., help me maneuver through
this and take care of the familyneeds and stuff.
While I was going through all ofthis.
And I'm grateful that Iadvocated for myself.
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I struggled getting hormonalsupport in the beginning with my
doctor and continued to push,push, push until someone I did
find a doctor who did get me on,on hormones and.
I finally feel like I'm at aplace where I am in control of
(21:31):
my emotions, even though I stillhave days don't get me wrong.
I know Jason's probablylistening to this and he's like,
Probably thinking, wait, what.
I do still have my moments, butthere it's not as intense.
And I feel like I can controlit, or I notice it more so I
can.
I just better manage it.
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And we're for a while there Iwas, I feel like I was out of
control.
I had no control.
I just would wake up and itwould be like rolling the dice,
what hormones are lacking todayand how does it make me feel as
am I sad?
Am I angry at my neutral?
Am I nothing?
What is it?
And so.
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You know, it explains, I lookback and I go, okay, well, it
makes sense why I wanted to shutmy business down.
Why I didn't want to show up onsocial media, why I was, you
know, feeling like nothing wasright.
Because when you, when yourhormones are out of whack, like
that, Nothing.
Nothing seems right.
And so it makes sense.
Now do I regret any of thatstuff?
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No, I've said it before.
I don't regret shutting thatdown.
I feel like everything happensfor a reason and I really like
the place I'm in right now in myentrepreneurial journey.
Like the done for you work thatI'm doing.
I like that.
It still allows me to do a bitof business coaching.
I feel really confident in thework that I do and the support
that I give my clients.
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Where, when I was businesscoaching, I would question
myself a lot and like, am I anygood at this?
Am I.
You know, am I actually helpingpeople?
And I can see the results reallywell and what I'm doing right
now through my clients.
I couldn't necessarily alwayssee their results before,
because.
You know, a coaching client,it's, it's what they do with the
(23:14):
information.
And if they're not successful,you don't feel successful.
And sometimes they do the rightthings with the information and
they, they can build somethingout of it.
And a lot of times they justdon't.
And so you can't be responsiblefor their results if they're not
implementing what you're askingor what you're sharing, you know
what I'm saying?
So.
We're here.
I'm the one doing it for them.
(23:36):
I mean, they still have to takewhat I do for them and, and
implement it.
But at the end of the day, my,my business I'm responsible for
making something look goodfunction, do what you needed to
do.
It's your job as the client totake that and then go out and do
whatever it is you do.
And so I feel like I'm reallydelivering on what I'm saying.
(23:57):
I'm delivering and it's workingI feel a lot more confident in
what I'm doing now, and I feel alot more stable and I feel.
I don't want to over hype thisbecause sometimes I'm like,
okay, you're feeling really goodtoday, but you don't know how
you're going to feel next week.
But I feel like I haveconsistently felt like things
are more stable and I'm ready.
Too.
(24:18):
Start.
Dipping my toe back out into thebranding social media podcast
space.
And building back up my brandexternally and seeing what
happens and.
Again, coming back to thispodcast.
I don't know how this podcastfits into this whole equation.,
(24:40):
I feel like I have morecapacity.
To be more consistent and notonly to be more consistent with
podcasts and all those things,but also in like my personal
life, like I got away frommeditation, journaling, reading
books that are feeding my brainand just some of that stuff that
I really got away from, I gotaway from all the personal
development stuff for a while.
(25:00):
Cause again, it was just likeall too much.
And I think I'm ready to evenbring back some of those
positive habits and into my lifeand bring some, a little bit
more structure, a little bitmore routine.
And really work on.
This next level of, of me andthis next level of this business
(25:20):
that I'm now in and being reallyproud of the work that I do and
the business that I've created.
And.
See where it takes me and.
This podcast, I feel like willbe a combination of.
Sharing business tips still andsharing.
So business tips for serviceproviders, business tips for
(25:41):
clients who need to work withservice providers.
Also life stuff,entrepreneurship stuff, being a
midlife.
A woman dealing with hormonesand entrepreneurship, and also
potentially talking about beingempty nesters and having kids
who are grown and what that'slike that probably will sneak
into the podcast somewherebecause.
The whole thing with thispodcast and calling it how it's
(26:03):
really going was I wanted a nameand a vibe for this space to be
like, Hey, I'm going to come tothe mic and I'm going to tell
you how it's really going.
And that could be a variety ofthings.
And some positive, some noteverything's going to be a, Hey,
here's a vulnerable, this suckedmoment.
Some of it's going to be, Hey,I've had a really good fucking
(26:24):
year financially.
I might talk about those things.
I might talk about my kids.
I might talk about my dog forthat matter.
I don't even know what I'm goingto say.
But I do want to have someconsistency here with this.
I'm feeling called to it.
Um, I listened to one of thepodcasts that I've been
listening to a lot is ShayleneJohnson.
(26:46):
And she has the same kind ofvibe.
She just talks about whatever'sgoing on in her life.
And I love that.
I relate to a lot of things thatshe says, and I'm like, I can do
this.
I can do this.
And we're going to see where itgoes.
And so that is a bit of a wholelot of updates.
A whole lot of ramble, a wholelot of where I'm at.
(27:06):
If you resonate with any ofthis, I'm always here for you.
I have re.
Invigorated.
My Instagram.
so I do still have my artInstagram, which is Shana Recker
underscore art.
That's going to be more of mypersonal Instagram.
I will be sharing our morepersonal things on there.
The business.
(27:26):
Instagram is the, I am ShanaRecker and that is the one that
I've going to reinvigorate.
I actually did a, my first postthere the other day, and I was
so pleasantly surprised by allof the.
Love and support that I got onthe first post of, of that
account.
In a long time.
And so it was made me reallyhappy to see people were excited
(27:49):
that I would be coming back tothat platform.
So thank you guys for all ofthat.
And if you're listening to thisand you got to this point,
thanks for listening.
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for subscribing.
Thanks for staying subscribed.
Even though I have been.
Very erratic with my podcastschedule.
I really look forward to doingmore episodes and just sharing
(28:12):
how it's really going.
And I hope that my stories ofhow it's really going help you.
And your journey to keep going.
To keep moving forward to growthrough these things and to know
that you're not alone.
And that's really what this isabout, and that's really why I
want to be here.
So.
Thank you.
Guys so much for listening.
(28:33):
I appreciate you all.
I love you all and we'll see youin the next episode.
Bye for now.
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