February 7, 2024 • 28 mins
Today I share how I'm learning (emphases on the ING) how by letting go of trying to control everything and embracing change actually makes life easier. I'd say it's one of the benefits of aging for sure. The older we get the less we care so much about shit.
In this episode I talk about ditching overthinking and trusting your instincts more, about opening up to outcomes outside of your expectations.
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Shana (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome back to how it's really going machine a
wrecker.
Today.
I want to share something that Ihave been reflecting on a little
bit in my life.
I was struggling with what tocall this episode.
But to be honest, it's reallyabout.
How I'm noticing.
As I get older.
I'm overthinking.
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Less, I'm going to say thatfeels like a really strong
statement.
To say that I overthink lessbecause I definitely am a
chronic over-thinker.
But I think.
Part of this getting older piecethat, we talk about all the
things that suck about gettingolder.
But there's also some thingsthat are also really good about
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getting older and one of themthat I'm really starting to
notice.
Is I'm overthinking lessworrying, less.
Trusting a bit more, I would sayin myself, and this is what I
want to talk about because.
There's a few things that I wantto share about this and that I'm
noticing.
Because as you guys, if you'velistened to this podcast and
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especially in the last sixmonths to a year, you know, that
I've made some really big lifechanges.
And I've, left careers startednew careers, shifted careers,
I've done all kinds of things.
Work-wise.
I have teenagers that now areadults, young adults who are
moving out.
So I'm almost an empty nester.
There's just been some big lifethings going on.
And then when I reflect back.
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Throughout my whole life.
I think, obviously we always,there's always changes and
things happening.
I mean, change is inevitable.
It's always going to be part oflife.
But I think back to some of thebig things that I went through,
when I was in my twenties goingto university and college and
things like that when I was inmy thirties, having kids and
then getting married, but thengetting a divorce and then,
getting remarried and thosekinds of things, like there's
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been a lot of, big things thathave happened, taking jobs in
other cities and then comingback home and leaving those
jobs.
Like there's been lots of thingsthat have happened in my life.
And.
If I were to go back to thosetimes, I am certain, I crazily
worried about things.
That, I didn't have control overand, before making big decisions
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to reform, doing all thosebefore doing any of those
things, I'm sure that Iover-thought things a million
times over and worried aboutthings a million times over.
And, there's just that constantsort of anxiety.
Oh, in my life of wondering,like, what's going to happen.
All of that kind of stuff.
You get what I'm saying?
And so I have been reflecting onsome things that are happening
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in my world right now.
And I'm like noticing that I'mnot as.
Anxious or overwhelmed by someof the even, and some of them
are like big things that arehappening, but I have not
noticing the same level ofanxiety.
And the same level ofoverthinking and the same level
of worry.
About those things.
And the only thing I canattribute it to is just me be
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just getting older and.
Maybe just feeling like I cantrust that things are going to
work out more.
It's funny because I, I wrotedown this one statement.
Before recording this.
Someone said this to me once andI don't know who said it or
where it came from.
So I.
I don't know who to give creditto for this, but it was like the
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saying was like something likeyou've overcome a hundred
percent of the challenges thatyou faced to date.
What makes you think you're notgoing to overcome the next
thing.
And it's true..
I think even regardless of howthings turned out in my life,
when I made big changes, right.
Wrong, good, bad.
Happened the way I wanted to, ormaybe didn't I still survive
them.
I still, whatever outcome it hathat happened.
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I'm still here and I'm stillgoing.
And remembering that when itcomes to things happening in
your life, Are big changes youwant to make in your life.
And having that trust inyourself to know that whatever.
Whatever choices you make.
You're going to figure it out.
I don't know that when I wasyounger that I trusted that I
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would figure things out, whichis probably why I worried a lot,
which is probably why I hadanxiety or over-thought
decisions and things like that.
I don't know if now I just.
I've just done it so many timesnow, but it actually is like
sunk in that.
Hey, don't worry.
You'll figure this out.
I feel like it's probably that,but who knows, maybe hormonally
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as we get older, one of thebenefits, not everything's
negative is that we do becomewiser and we do.
Tend to stress less about thestuff that happens in life.
And I think about that when Ithink about, people in their
seventies, eighties, nineties,who just are, they're always the
wisest ones, they're always theones telling us, stop worrying
about what other people thinkdon't do this, don't do that.
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Like it's not worth it.
It's not worth the time or theenergy lost, And they can do
that and say that becausethey've just become wise in
their old age to be able to lookback and see how much things
didn't really matter to them.
As much as we thought they did.
And, it's funny because for meright now, when I made the
decision to leave coaching, Iwasn't really sure what I was
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going to do.
I took a job at the hair salonat the working the front desk,
because it was something I knewI could do right away.
And it was something that.
I knew would pay me right away.
And it was just something for meto do while I was figuring out
what the heck I was going to do.
Even though that was reallyscary for me, because I had
never done that job before, Iwas also worried a little bit
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about, what were people going tothink?
Do people think I failed, and tobe honest, like that stuff
bothered me and I worried aboutit a little bit, but it wasn't
enough to make me, not take thejob or not go forward with it.
And then.
Even when I started, I was like,it was really hard.
Like that job is not an easyjob.
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Let me tell you, especially thesalon that I'm at, there's like
12 or 15, actually.
I think there's maybe more thanthat.
Like almost 20 stylists.
And you're answering the phoneand managing appointments for 20
different people at any giventime.
So it was busy.
It was a lot, but I learned it.
I figured it out.
Someone was showing me.
Sure.
Did I make mistakes?
Did I screw things up every oncein a while?
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Did I.
Absolutely.
I did.
We're human, but we, but Ifigured it out and, now I go to
work and I love it.
And it's second nature.
I'm sure I still make mistakesand things like that, I love the
job and I feel super comfortablethere.
And I feel like it's just a partof who I am now.
But in that moment of, do I takethe job?
Don't I take the job,overthinking all the things,
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worrying about if it's right forme worrying about if I'm going
to be any good at worrying, allof those things.
And it's Dude, if you can justtrust the process and just, let
it unfold and trust that you'llfigure it out.
And, and that mentality can takeus.
To some really amazing places ifwe let it and the example of the
salon, I've met some reallygreat people.
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Some that ever come becomingclose friends with.
It's really changed my outlookon life.
I get to meet people.
I'm saying, I'm meeting, I'mstarting to see some of the same
people come and go from thesalon.
So I'm getting to know people.
It's a lot of fun.
It's very social and it's forme.
It's that mid I work onWednesdays.
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I enjoy that one day.
I look forward to that day.
And it gives me that little bitof something that I don't get
from working at home by myselfdoing websites.
You know what I mean?
So, there's something in that,and I had to just trust that it
would, it was right for me and Ihad to trust that it, I would
figure it out and I had to trustthat if it wasn't right for me,
I would know.
And I would be able to make thenext choice.
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That's, that's something thatwhen we get that, when we can
really let that sink in.
It can be life-changing.
It really can because.
there have been things that Ihave taken a step into in the
past.
Six months.
That I had no idea were goingto, I didn't no idea how they
were going to turn out, andbecause I was able to.
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Take the step, because I said tomyself, Shana, you figured out
everything else in your life.
Up until this point, you canfigure this out too.
I did them and figured it out,,and that was paint nights,
starting the pain nights at ourstudio here in London.
When that was suggested to me todo an abstract paint night.
I was like, oh yeah I should.
And I avoided it for the firstlittle while because I was like
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a little bit like, I don't knowwhat to do.
I don't know if I have the rightspace.
I'm not sure what the, to behonest, it was a little
overwhelming for me to thinkabout all the things that I
would need to do to put one on.
And I just wasn't in a space atthat time to really let it sink
in.
That was when I was juststarting at the salon.
Like there was a lot going on inmy life.
it was probably about a monthlater, I decided to give it a
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shot.
I was at the studio painting andI just said, Jason, I were
talking about it.
And I said, Maybe we should trydoing this paint night thing.
We could see what happens andgive it a shot.
And I just went on to Instagramstories and I just said, Hey
guys, I'm going to be hosting apaint night.
I'm going to teach you abstractart, yada yada yada.
And I have space for, I think atthe time I said 12 people.
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And I had people wanting spots,like within a matter of seconds
of me doing that video.
And I'm no word of a lie.
By the end of the very next day,we had sold all 12 spots and
here I was, I'd never hosted onebefore.
I wasn't even sure exactly how Iwas going to do this.
But I had people who wanted todo it.
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So, here we go, one foot infront of the other.
And I just started.
Mentally seeing how I would wantthis to play out.
And I got the supplies and I didthe things.
And we had an amazing firstpaint night and we ended up
having 11 people there.
Which was perfect because,.
But but I figured it out.
I figured it out that's thething is you have to trust.
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That you will figure it out ifit feels right to you.
And this is the thing with thepaint nights.
Even though when it was firstbrought to my attention to do
it, I was like putting it off.
That was more out of fearbecause I really didn't know how
to do one.
it was a little overwhelming,but the idea kept.
Percolating in my head.
And I kept thinking about it.
I kept thinking about it and Ifeel like that's how you know,
something is for you is that ifyou can't stop thinking about it
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in a positive way, And.
I did it and I just figured itout.
And here we are, we've hostedprobably 10 or 15 paint nights
since then.
We're now starting to getcorporate events.
So this is the other thing I'vehad somebody messaged me this
past week.
Wanting 20 people for acorporate event.
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My max is 10.
Cause that's how much room wehave in the studio for the
tables.
And Jason's like, we can runsome tables, like we can figure
it out and I'm like, you'reright.
We can.
He's like just say yes, we cando it.
Give them the quote.
And if they say yes and theywant to move forward, trust that
we'll figure it out.
We'll just, we'll make it work.
And so that's what we did.
And, I haven't heard yay or nayon that one yet, but I trust the
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fact that if they say yes, wewill figure it out.
And this is the thing, I thinkwhen you get, as we get older,
Or, I don't know, maybe morepeople are like this and it's
just taking me a long time toget here.
But.
I just feel like I'm just atthis point in my life where I
want to follow the things, Ifeel good and trust that if it
feels good and it feels rightfor me, that it's meant for me.
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And then if I say yes, I willfigure it out.
Whether it be taking a job atthe hair salon, doing paint
nights, changing careers, likewhatever it is.
Trust in those feelings,especially if they are feelings
that continue to come up foryou.
I'm not saying, make rashdecisions on a whim or on a
feeling that pops up once.
If you've got something thatyou've been wanting to do in
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your life, but you haven't doneit and it keeps coming up for
you.
What is the worst that couldhappen and I'm going to say, do
you trust yourself to figure itout?
You're probably going to say no,but I'm going to say trust
yourself and trust that you'llfigure it out., what's the worst
that's going to happen.
That's just what I wanted to sayis that, how many opportunities
are missed by people becausethey're overthinking and super
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worried that if they do, Xsomething bad's going to happen.
And, I was listening to apodcast back when I was super
into personal development and Iforgot what I was listening to.
It was like a motivational videoor something on YouTube.
But this one statement hasalways stayed with me and it was
that.
Trusting that if you take a stepand fail.
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That failure is still.
How do I say this?
That, that, that step into thatstep that you took, that feels
like a failure is still actuallya success.
Because that failure actuallymoved you into this new space.
And there was something elsethat needed that had to happen
so that you could get to thenext thing that basically that
failure isn't failure.
It's just, it's still a movementforward.
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And sometimes things look likefailure because it, because you
expected the outcome to bedifferent.
But because you took the move,and something different
happened.
It doesn't mean it's a failure.
It means that needed to happento move you to this next thing,
because this next thing is morefor you than what you thought
you wanted.
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That was a really long way forme to say what he said, actually
in two seconds.
And I just can't rememberexactly how he said it.
But, that resonates with me alllike that.
That is in my mind.
Often when something happens andI don't get the expectation, the
expected result that I want.
That instead of it being bad ora failure or wrong that it was
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just what needed to happen inorder to move me to the next
place where my neck, the nextthing was waiting for me.
Me leaving coaching.
No idea what I was going to doafter I did that, I started
offering myself out to do donefor you services.
Cause my skillset is graphicdesign, Kajabi websites., I'm
very technically savvy.
So why not put myself out therethat way?
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And I ended up with a firstclient and then the second
client and a third client.
And now I've got six clientsthat I'm working with
consistently.
And I literally have a full-timehome-based business, helping
people doing their websites,their graphic design, and
they're the backend, the techside of their business.
And I really love it.
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So, I don't know.
I didn't know what I was doingwhen I put myself out there to
do done for you services.
I was just like, let's see whathappens.
And I know I'll figure it out.
I'm still figuring it out.
To be totally honest.
I'm still figuring it out.
Every day that I immersed myselfin this.
I get better and better, and Ifigure out more and more.
And if you are.
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Holding back on something inyour life because you feel like
you don't.
Have all the answers and that.
If you take that move withoutall the answers, you're not
going to be able to figure itout and you're not going to get
the results that you want.
Let the outcome unfold as itneeds to your controlling
outcome and expecting a certainresult.
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Is that's what's creating thatresistance or creating that fear
and creating that anxiety inthat.
Overthinking is because.
You are only open to that oneoutcome.
Let go and let be open towhatever happens, good or bad,
and know that it's moving you ina direction that you need to go.
If you would've said to me ayear ago that I'd be hosting
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these abstract paint nights andI'd have, 10, 12 people a night
coming and enjoying it and I wasgoing to enjoy it and it was
going to be this whole thing.
I would have been like, No,you're crazy.
That's not bling, like I wouldnever have been able to predict
that I would never have beenable to predict the outcome of
even the first one.
My expectations were completelyopen for that.
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And that's, I believe that's whythat worked so well for me,
because I just was like, I'mgoing to just try this.
I'm going to see what happens.
I'm going to do it.
I'll get some feedback.
If something needs to change,we'll fix it and we'll try it
again.
Being able to do that is huge.
And that's what I've learned.
It's like I look back at all thetimes.
That I made changes in my lifeand how much I was trying to
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control everything.
To be a certain way.
I just know at this stage of mylife, I don't have the energy.
Or the Headspace.
Or the hormones to controleverything that's going on in my
life, because it's exhausting.
It's literally exhausting.
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There's a point in time whereyou just have to.
Release and let go and letthings just be now even money.
Money is one of those thingsthat I used to.
Really stress about.
I'm talking like.
Like.
Freaking out panicking havinganxiety attacks and overthinking
and in scarcity mode and tryingto fix, fix, fix, fix, fix
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everything, and trying tocontrol it all.
I look back at that now and Ithink.
Man, what an.
Uptight.
Crazy person.
I was.
like my situation now, is it anybetter?
I mean maybe yes, probably alittle better now, but not by
much.
And now it's like we getsometimes into the same spots we
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were in, when I was a crazyperson and I'm just like, I just
trust it's going to work out.
And it always fucking doesalways.
Not always the way that I thinkit's going to not always the way
that I'm trying to control ittoo.
But there are things that whenyou can let go and be open.
And not try and grip so tightlyto an outcome or to try and fix
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something or try and makesomething happen.
It leaves room for like thesecrazy awesome things to pop into
your world.
Like.
There have been times where I'vebeen really close to, something
not being able to go through ona credit card or trying to make
a payment for something andinstead of being all scarcity,
weird, crazy person.
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I'm just like, we'll just figureit out.
If it doesn't happen before,then I'll have to, I'll have to
do something?
And I I'll just, there's nosense I'm freaking out about it
now.
I might as well wait till we getto that point and then I'll
figure out the next step.
And honestly, Every single timeeither a new client comes
through or a new job comesthrough or like from a client or
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something comes through from,there's multiple different
things that can happen.
And every single time it'salways been taken care of.
And so I just don't seem to havethat same kind of stress level
over those things anymore,because I'm just at a point now
where I'm just seeing okay,yeah.
This stuff always seems to workout.
So don't get weird about it.
Just go with the flow.
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And I think that's the wholepoint of this message is, if we
can stop trying to controloutcomes and trying to fix
everything and just more go withthe flow.
We're going to find that life isgoing to be a lot easier for us.
And I think as I'm getting olderto circle back to why is this
happening for me now?
I think as we get older, wedon't have the time that we
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don't have the energy.
To try and control and forceoutcomes in our lives anymore.
And we don't give a shit, wedon't care so much about what
people think we don't.
This is why, that last podcastepisode I did, I was talking
about my weight.
And how, I used to reallystruggle with weight and not
that I struggled so much withweight, but in my mind, I
struggled with weight.
And I was trying to constantly,Be a certain way.
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And, just, it was just like thisweird battle in my head.
And I just, I'm starting to getto this place where I'm kinda
like, I don't seem to care somuch about that anymore.
Like I care or I want to behealthy, but.
I don't, I'm not in this likepanic about my jeans being a
little bit tighter or having toget a different size or, sure.
It's there.
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I think about it, but it's notto the same degree that it used
to be.
And I didn't do any kind of.
Mindset work on that or anythinglike that.
I just just don't care anymore.
I just don't.
I don't care to the same degreethat I used to.
And I think that comes withgetting older, because to be
honest, like we have so manythings going on as we enter into
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menopause.
That some things just have to,you just have to let go of some
things, because there's just toomuch.
There's literally just too much.
And.
I think that's what happens.
We get older and it's just Rvalues change our values change.
The things that we care about,change the things that we don't
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care about.
Change.
I value sleep so much.
So much.
That, I am not somebody who'sgoing out every weekend.
I have to really have to thinkabout, if we're going out on a,
on a Saturday night, is it worthlosing a day of sleep the next
day?
Is it worth having a shittynight's sleep?
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Like I have to really weighout., how much am I going to
have to drink that night?
How late are we going to be out?
And when do I want to come homeand like, Not trying to say that
I overthink those things, but Ijust value certain things in my
life so much more than wantingto stay out and be the life of
the party the whole night to notmiss out on anything?
And I think again, that's justcomes with getting older.
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I that's, the only thing I canthink of that's changed I'm just
getting older and I just don'thave the same time and energy to
spend on overthinking And.
getting to, worried about whatthe results are going to be.
And I have so much proof in mylife.
That things will work out,however it needs to work out and
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that I'm going to be okay.
That is just what I trust now.
And I believe that if I say yesto.
Whatever it is, whether it's ajob or this corporate event with
20 people who want to do a paintnight., I will figure it out.
And if I don't and it sucks.
And then I'll learn a lesson andI won't do it again.
Or I'll switch something up andwe'll make it better.
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we'll make it, we'll make itwork.
But I think that.
we just have to.
Just give ourselves space.
To allow things to happen forus.
And I know as somebody who I amdefinitely been a control freak
in my life, I've definitelytried to control outcomes.
And I know that the harder thatI try to control an outcome, the
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worse it is for me and theoutcome.
And.
I was in network marketing foralmost, solidly working in
network marketing business forseven years.
And that when I actually amjust, this is just coming into
my brain, as I'm speaking rightnow, that whole business for
seven years was me forcing anoutcome every single month,
every single month, forcing.
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A certain amount of sales,forcing, outcomes within my
team, trying to create a certainamount of dollar sales, trying
to create certain amount oforders.
Trying to force force forceforce force.
It's that industry is definitelybuilt on.
Cultivating people to cultivateoutcomes and it is.
It's almost.
Yeah, this is a whole otherpodcast.
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It's almost it's detrimental toyour mental health.
I will say that for sure.
And I'm so glad I don't, I'm notin that industry anymore.
Because even though.
I made a lot of money in thatindustry.
And I appreciate that.
What I lost was a lot of mentalhealth.
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It's that makes sense.
There's a things that just,yeah.
That's a podcast for anotherday.
If you want to hear a podcast onnetwork marketing, let me know.
I will happily record my networkmarketing experience for y'all.
If you'd like to hear thatstory, just let me know, drop me
a DM in my Instagram.
I am Shana.
Recker.
And just, even if you justdropped the word network
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marketing, I will be happy torecord an episode on that.
But yeah.
I just think that whole time inmy life was me forcing outcomes
and trying to create somethingthat was just built off.
The wrong energy.
The wrong energy from day one.
And which is why it ultimatelyimploded because, it's, that's
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something you can't sustain.
You can't sustain that furtheryour entire life.
It would just, it would burn youout.
So bad.
And I think that's exactly whatwas going on in my coaching
business too.
With social media and having toshow up all the time.
And, if you're not showing up onsocial media, how are you going
to find your clients and allthese things?
And I was trying to control anoutcome, trying to control
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something to be a certain way.
And it was exhausting.
And it absolutely lead me toburnout.
And I wasn't able to just let goand let it be because I needed
to make money.
I needed to pay my bills.
I needed things to go a certainway I needed so many people to
sign up so that I could count onthis and that, and it was just.
Again, not a, healthyrelationship with trying to
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control outcomes.
And I think that's why when Ilet go.
Of everything.
Like when I let go of thecoaching business, even when I
let go of network marketing.
When I let go of the coachingbusiness specifically, because
that just is my most recent one.
I let go.
And I started that job of thesalon and that worked out
beautifully because I let go andI just let it happen.
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I started doing the paint nightsbecause I just let go and let it
happen.
And we're having so much funwith them.
I started doing done for youservices cause I let go.
And I just thought, well, I'lljust throw this out there and
see what happens.
And literally, I have.
I have, I can't even take on anew client right now, cause I'm
totally booked.
And I love the work and, it'sjust working because I'm not
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trying to control it.
It's just happening.
I'm just letting it flow.
And I think.
That is the major point that I'mtrying to make here.
So, if you want to.
Change something in your life.
If you're feeling like you needto move in a new direction or
you're, you're thinking aboutstarting something or, many
people message me on my artaccount.
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They Shana Recker underscoreart.
My Instagram.
Who are like, oh, I've alwayswanted to paint.
And I used to do it when I was akid.
I just wish I had more time forit.
I'm here to tell you, make timefor it, like open yourself up to
something that brings you joyand happiness.
Because to be honest, that wasanother thing that I just opened
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myself up to when I was reallystressed with my coaching
business just before I quit.
I said to my husband, I'm like,I need something outside of this
business to just give me some,to give me a break.
From constantly trying to marketmyself.
And I said, I just want one daya week where I can paint.
And I started painting at mydining room table.
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And that's what led to me.
And I started, I created anInstagram account just because
it was fun.
And I was like, oh, I'll justshow what I'm doing here and see
what happens.
And it turned into peoplewanting to purchase art, which
turned into me creating ShanaRecker art.com, which turned
into me spending more and moretime in the studio painting,
which led to the paint nightsand so-and-so.
And so you see what I'm saying?
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It's letting the nudges that youare feeling called to move
towards guide you.
And here's the thing.
I've had nudges my, I had anudge to join a network
marketing team and have thatbusiness.
And did it Sure.
Was it super successful?,financially for me, it was.
Was it something that I could dofor my entire life?
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No, but I follow that nudge.
I got something out of it.
It led me to the next thing,which led me to the next thing,
which lately, this is what I'msaying.
You've got to trust that thethings that.
Whether they're working out foryou and then maybe they stop
working for you or they work.
They don't work for you at all.
You're still taking a step in adirection that's leading you to
the next step.
So nothing is a quote-unquotefailure.
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It's just another, it's justanother step.
It's just another directionyou're moving into.
And if we can let go and trust.
That these things are moving usto what we're I believe meant to
do on this planet.
I believe we all have a purpose.
Then the only way you're goingto get there is if you can let
go and allow it to happen anddon't put these crazy
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expectations.
On results for yourself.
Like don't don't.
Box yourself in to a specificresult.
And if it doesn't happen, Youknow, you're a failure and
whatever, if it doesn't happen.
What's the next thing.
What's the next thing.
Right?
And that's.
That's all.
I'm really trying to say.
That's all I got.
I just really thought that wassomething that needed to be
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said.
And.
I said it.
So there you go.
That's it.
That's all I have to say.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson this.
If you are somebody whoresonated with us at all and you
want to have a conversationabout it.
You guys know where to find meon Instagram.
It's also in my show notes.
And I love being back here withyou guys.
I hope that you're loving ittoo.
I love these littleconversations.
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Who knows what's going to benext.
If there's something you want meto talk about, like I said, if
you want me to talk about mynetwork marketing experience,
I'm happy to do that.
If you want me to talk aboutsomething else?
I'm all yours.
All right, everyone.
That's it for me until nexttime.
Bye for now.
Hey guys, welcome back to how it's really going machine a
wrecker.
Today.
I want to share something that Ihave been reflecting on a little
bit in my life.
I was struggling with what tocall this episode.
But to be honest, it's reallyabout.
How I'm noticing.
As I get older.
I'm overthinking.
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Less, I'm going to say thatfeels like a really strong
statement.
To say that I overthink lessbecause I definitely am a
chronic over-thinker.
But I think.
Part of this getting older piecethat, we talk about all the
things that suck about gettingolder.
But there's also some thingsthat are also really good about
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getting older and one of themthat I'm really starting to
notice.
Is I'm overthinking lessworrying, less.
Trusting a bit more, I would sayin myself, and this is what I
want to talk about because.
There's a few things that I wantto share about this and that I'm
noticing.
Because as you guys, if you'velistened to this podcast and
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especially in the last sixmonths to a year, you know, that
I've made some really big lifechanges.
And I've, left careers startednew careers, shifted careers,
I've done all kinds of things.
Work-wise.
I have teenagers that now areadults, young adults who are
moving out.
So I'm almost an empty nester.
There's just been some big lifethings going on.
And then when I reflect back.
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Throughout my whole life.
I think, obviously we always,there's always changes and
things happening.
I mean, change is inevitable.
It's always going to be part oflife.
But I think back to some of thebig things that I went through,
when I was in my twenties goingto university and college and
things like that when I was inmy thirties, having kids and
then getting married, but thengetting a divorce and then,
getting remarried and thosekinds of things, like there's
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been a lot of, big things thathave happened, taking jobs in
other cities and then comingback home and leaving those
jobs.
Like there's been lots of thingsthat have happened in my life.
And.
If I were to go back to thosetimes, I am certain, I crazily
worried about things.
That, I didn't have control overand, before making big decisions
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to reform, doing all thosebefore doing any of those
things, I'm sure that Iover-thought things a million
times over and worried aboutthings a million times over.
And, there's just that constantsort of anxiety.
Oh, in my life of wondering,like, what's going to happen.
All of that kind of stuff.
You get what I'm saying?
And so I have been reflecting onsome things that are happening
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in my world right now.
And I'm like noticing that I'mnot as.
Anxious or overwhelmed by someof the even, and some of them
are like big things that arehappening, but I have not
noticing the same level ofanxiety.
And the same level ofoverthinking and the same level
of worry.
About those things.
And the only thing I canattribute it to is just me be
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just getting older and.
Maybe just feeling like I cantrust that things are going to
work out more.
It's funny because I, I wrotedown this one statement.
Before recording this.
Someone said this to me once andI don't know who said it or
where it came from.
So I.
I don't know who to give creditto for this, but it was like the
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saying was like something likeyou've overcome a hundred
percent of the challenges thatyou faced to date.
What makes you think you're notgoing to overcome the next
thing.
And it's true..
I think even regardless of howthings turned out in my life,
when I made big changes, right.
Wrong, good, bad.
Happened the way I wanted to, ormaybe didn't I still survive
them.
I still, whatever outcome it hathat happened.
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I'm still here and I'm stillgoing.
And remembering that when itcomes to things happening in
your life, Are big changes youwant to make in your life.
And having that trust inyourself to know that whatever.
Whatever choices you make.
You're going to figure it out.
I don't know that when I wasyounger that I trusted that I
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would figure things out, whichis probably why I worried a lot,
which is probably why I hadanxiety or over-thought
decisions and things like that.
I don't know if now I just.
I've just done it so many timesnow, but it actually is like
sunk in that.
Hey, don't worry.
You'll figure this out.
I feel like it's probably that,but who knows, maybe hormonally
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as we get older, one of thebenefits, not everything's
negative is that we do becomewiser and we do.
Tend to stress less about thestuff that happens in life.
And I think about that when Ithink about, people in their
seventies, eighties, nineties,who just are, they're always the
wisest ones, they're always theones telling us, stop worrying
about what other people thinkdon't do this, don't do that.
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Like it's not worth it.
It's not worth the time or theenergy lost, And they can do
that and say that becausethey've just become wise in
their old age to be able to lookback and see how much things
didn't really matter to them.
As much as we thought they did.
And, it's funny because for meright now, when I made the
decision to leave coaching, Iwasn't really sure what I was
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going to do.
I took a job at the hair salonat the working the front desk,
because it was something I knewI could do right away.
And it was something that.
I knew would pay me right away.
And it was just something for meto do while I was figuring out
what the heck I was going to do.
Even though that was reallyscary for me, because I had
never done that job before, Iwas also worried a little bit
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about, what were people going tothink?
Do people think I failed, and tobe honest, like that stuff
bothered me and I worried aboutit a little bit, but it wasn't
enough to make me, not take thejob or not go forward with it.
And then.
Even when I started, I was like,it was really hard.
Like that job is not an easyjob.
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Let me tell you, especially thesalon that I'm at, there's like
12 or 15, actually.
I think there's maybe more thanthat.
Like almost 20 stylists.
And you're answering the phoneand managing appointments for 20
different people at any giventime.
So it was busy.
It was a lot, but I learned it.
I figured it out.
Someone was showing me.
Sure.
Did I make mistakes?
Did I screw things up every oncein a while?
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Did I.
Absolutely.
I did.
We're human, but we, but Ifigured it out and, now I go to
work and I love it.
And it's second nature.
I'm sure I still make mistakesand things like that, I love the
job and I feel super comfortablethere.
And I feel like it's just a partof who I am now.
But in that moment of, do I takethe job?
Don't I take the job,overthinking all the things,
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worrying about if it's right forme worrying about if I'm going
to be any good at worrying, allof those things.
And it's Dude, if you can justtrust the process and just, let
it unfold and trust that you'llfigure it out.
And, and that mentality can takeus.
To some really amazing places ifwe let it and the example of the
salon, I've met some reallygreat people.
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Some that ever come becomingclose friends with.
It's really changed my outlookon life.
I get to meet people.
I'm saying, I'm meeting, I'mstarting to see some of the same
people come and go from thesalon.
So I'm getting to know people.
It's a lot of fun.
It's very social and it's forme.
It's that mid I work onWednesdays.
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I enjoy that one day.
I look forward to that day.
And it gives me that little bitof something that I don't get
from working at home by myselfdoing websites.
You know what I mean?
So, there's something in that,and I had to just trust that it
would, it was right for me and Ihad to trust that it, I would
figure it out and I had to trustthat if it wasn't right for me,
I would know.
And I would be able to make thenext choice.
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That's, that's something thatwhen we get that, when we can
really let that sink in.
It can be life-changing.
It really can because.
there have been things that Ihave taken a step into in the
past.
Six months.
That I had no idea were goingto, I didn't no idea how they
were going to turn out, andbecause I was able to.
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Take the step, because I said tomyself, Shana, you figured out
everything else in your life.
Up until this point, you canfigure this out too.
I did them and figured it out,,and that was paint nights,
starting the pain nights at ourstudio here in London.
When that was suggested to me todo an abstract paint night.
I was like, oh yeah I should.
And I avoided it for the firstlittle while because I was like
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a little bit like, I don't knowwhat to do.
I don't know if I have the rightspace.
I'm not sure what the, to behonest, it was a little
overwhelming for me to thinkabout all the things that I
would need to do to put one on.
And I just wasn't in a space atthat time to really let it sink
in.
That was when I was juststarting at the salon.
Like there was a lot going on inmy life.
it was probably about a monthlater, I decided to give it a
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shot.
I was at the studio painting andI just said, Jason, I were
talking about it.
And I said, Maybe we should trydoing this paint night thing.
We could see what happens andgive it a shot.
And I just went on to Instagramstories and I just said, Hey
guys, I'm going to be hosting apaint night.
I'm going to teach you abstractart, yada yada yada.
And I have space for, I think atthe time I said 12 people.
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And I had people wanting spots,like within a matter of seconds
of me doing that video.
And I'm no word of a lie.
By the end of the very next day,we had sold all 12 spots and
here I was, I'd never hosted onebefore.
I wasn't even sure exactly how Iwas going to do this.
But I had people who wanted todo it.
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So, here we go, one foot infront of the other.
And I just started.
Mentally seeing how I would wantthis to play out.
And I got the supplies and I didthe things.
And we had an amazing firstpaint night and we ended up
having 11 people there.
Which was perfect because,.
But but I figured it out.
I figured it out that's thething is you have to trust.
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That you will figure it out ifit feels right to you.
And this is the thing with thepaint nights.
Even though when it was firstbrought to my attention to do
it, I was like putting it off.
That was more out of fearbecause I really didn't know how
to do one.
it was a little overwhelming,but the idea kept.
Percolating in my head.
And I kept thinking about it.
I kept thinking about it and Ifeel like that's how you know,
something is for you is that ifyou can't stop thinking about it
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in a positive way, And.
I did it and I just figured itout.
And here we are, we've hostedprobably 10 or 15 paint nights
since then.
We're now starting to getcorporate events.
So this is the other thing I'vehad somebody messaged me this
past week.
Wanting 20 people for acorporate event.
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My max is 10.
Cause that's how much room wehave in the studio for the
tables.
And Jason's like, we can runsome tables, like we can figure
it out and I'm like, you'reright.
We can.
He's like just say yes, we cando it.
Give them the quote.
And if they say yes and theywant to move forward, trust that
we'll figure it out.
We'll just, we'll make it work.
And so that's what we did.
And, I haven't heard yay or nayon that one yet, but I trust the
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fact that if they say yes, wewill figure it out.
And this is the thing, I thinkwhen you get, as we get older,
Or, I don't know, maybe morepeople are like this and it's
just taking me a long time toget here.
But.
I just feel like I'm just atthis point in my life where I
want to follow the things, Ifeel good and trust that if it
feels good and it feels rightfor me, that it's meant for me.
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And then if I say yes, I willfigure it out.
Whether it be taking a job atthe hair salon, doing paint
nights, changing careers, likewhatever it is.
Trust in those feelings,especially if they are feelings
that continue to come up foryou.
I'm not saying, make rashdecisions on a whim or on a
feeling that pops up once.
If you've got something thatyou've been wanting to do in
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your life, but you haven't doneit and it keeps coming up for
you.
What is the worst that couldhappen and I'm going to say, do
you trust yourself to figure itout?
You're probably going to say no,but I'm going to say trust
yourself and trust that you'llfigure it out., what's the worst
that's going to happen.
That's just what I wanted to sayis that, how many opportunities
are missed by people becausethey're overthinking and super
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worried that if they do, Xsomething bad's going to happen.
And, I was listening to apodcast back when I was super
into personal development and Iforgot what I was listening to.
It was like a motivational videoor something on YouTube.
But this one statement hasalways stayed with me and it was
that.
Trusting that if you take a stepand fail.
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That failure is still.
How do I say this?
That, that, that step into thatstep that you took, that feels
like a failure is still actuallya success.
Because that failure actuallymoved you into this new space.
And there was something elsethat needed that had to happen
so that you could get to thenext thing that basically that
failure isn't failure.
It's just, it's still a movementforward.
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And sometimes things look likefailure because it, because you
expected the outcome to bedifferent.
But because you took the move,and something different
happened.
It doesn't mean it's a failure.
It means that needed to happento move you to this next thing,
because this next thing is morefor you than what you thought
you wanted.
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That was a really long way forme to say what he said, actually
in two seconds.
And I just can't rememberexactly how he said it.
But, that resonates with me alllike that.
That is in my mind.
Often when something happens andI don't get the expectation, the
expected result that I want.
That instead of it being bad ora failure or wrong that it was
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just what needed to happen inorder to move me to the next
place where my neck, the nextthing was waiting for me.
Me leaving coaching.
No idea what I was going to doafter I did that, I started
offering myself out to do donefor you services.
Cause my skillset is graphicdesign, Kajabi websites., I'm
very technically savvy.
So why not put myself out therethat way?
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And I ended up with a firstclient and then the second
client and a third client.
And now I've got six clientsthat I'm working with
consistently.
And I literally have a full-timehome-based business, helping
people doing their websites,their graphic design, and
they're the backend, the techside of their business.
And I really love it.
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So, I don't know.
I didn't know what I was doingwhen I put myself out there to
do done for you services.
I was just like, let's see whathappens.
And I know I'll figure it out.
I'm still figuring it out.
To be totally honest.
I'm still figuring it out.
Every day that I immersed myselfin this.
I get better and better, and Ifigure out more and more.
And if you are.
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Holding back on something inyour life because you feel like
you don't.
Have all the answers and that.
If you take that move withoutall the answers, you're not
going to be able to figure itout and you're not going to get
the results that you want.
Let the outcome unfold as itneeds to your controlling
outcome and expecting a certainresult.
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Is that's what's creating thatresistance or creating that fear
and creating that anxiety inthat.
Overthinking is because.
You are only open to that oneoutcome.
Let go and let be open towhatever happens, good or bad,
and know that it's moving you ina direction that you need to go.
If you would've said to me ayear ago that I'd be hosting
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these abstract paint nights andI'd have, 10, 12 people a night
coming and enjoying it and I wasgoing to enjoy it and it was
going to be this whole thing.
I would have been like, No,you're crazy.
That's not bling, like I wouldnever have been able to predict
that I would never have beenable to predict the outcome of
even the first one.
My expectations were completelyopen for that.
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And that's, I believe that's whythat worked so well for me,
because I just was like, I'mgoing to just try this.
I'm going to see what happens.
I'm going to do it.
I'll get some feedback.
If something needs to change,we'll fix it and we'll try it
again.
Being able to do that is huge.
And that's what I've learned.
It's like I look back at all thetimes.
That I made changes in my lifeand how much I was trying to
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control everything.
To be a certain way.
I just know at this stage of mylife, I don't have the energy.
Or the Headspace.
Or the hormones to controleverything that's going on in my
life, because it's exhausting.
It's literally exhausting.
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There's a point in time whereyou just have to.
Release and let go and letthings just be now even money.
Money is one of those thingsthat I used to.
Really stress about.
I'm talking like.
Like.
Freaking out panicking havinganxiety attacks and overthinking
and in scarcity mode and tryingto fix, fix, fix, fix, fix
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everything, and trying tocontrol it all.
I look back at that now and Ithink.
Man, what an.
Uptight.
Crazy person.
I was.
like my situation now, is it anybetter?
I mean maybe yes, probably alittle better now, but not by
much.
And now it's like we getsometimes into the same spots we
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were in, when I was a crazyperson and I'm just like, I just
trust it's going to work out.
And it always fucking doesalways.
Not always the way that I thinkit's going to not always the way
that I'm trying to control ittoo.
But there are things that whenyou can let go and be open.
And not try and grip so tightlyto an outcome or to try and fix
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something or try and makesomething happen.
It leaves room for like thesecrazy awesome things to pop into
your world.
Like.
There have been times where I'vebeen really close to, something
not being able to go through ona credit card or trying to make
a payment for something andinstead of being all scarcity,
weird, crazy person.
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I'm just like, we'll just figureit out.
If it doesn't happen before,then I'll have to, I'll have to
do something?
And I I'll just, there's nosense I'm freaking out about it
now.
I might as well wait till we getto that point and then I'll
figure out the next step.
And honestly, Every single timeeither a new client comes
through or a new job comesthrough or like from a client or
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something comes through from,there's multiple different
things that can happen.
And every single time it'salways been taken care of.
And so I just don't seem to havethat same kind of stress level
over those things anymore,because I'm just at a point now
where I'm just seeing okay,yeah.
This stuff always seems to workout.
So don't get weird about it.
Just go with the flow.
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And I think that's the wholepoint of this message is, if we
can stop trying to controloutcomes and trying to fix
everything and just more go withthe flow.
We're going to find that life isgoing to be a lot easier for us.
And I think as I'm getting olderto circle back to why is this
happening for me now?
I think as we get older, wedon't have the time that we
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don't have the energy.
To try and control and forceoutcomes in our lives anymore.
And we don't give a shit, wedon't care so much about what
people think we don't.
This is why, that last podcastepisode I did, I was talking
about my weight.
And how, I used to reallystruggle with weight and not
that I struggled so much withweight, but in my mind, I
struggled with weight.
And I was trying to constantly,Be a certain way.
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And, just, it was just like thisweird battle in my head.
And I just, I'm starting to getto this place where I'm kinda
like, I don't seem to care somuch about that anymore.
Like I care or I want to behealthy, but.
I don't, I'm not in this likepanic about my jeans being a
little bit tighter or having toget a different size or, sure.
It's there.
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I think about it, but it's notto the same degree that it used
to be.
And I didn't do any kind of.
Mindset work on that or anythinglike that.
I just just don't care anymore.
I just don't.
I don't care to the same degreethat I used to.
And I think that comes withgetting older, because to be
honest, like we have so manythings going on as we enter into
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menopause.
That some things just have to,you just have to let go of some
things, because there's just toomuch.
There's literally just too much.
And.
I think that's what happens.
We get older and it's just Rvalues change our values change.
The things that we care about,change the things that we don't
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care about.
Change.
I value sleep so much.
So much.
That, I am not somebody who'sgoing out every weekend.
I have to really have to thinkabout, if we're going out on a,
on a Saturday night, is it worthlosing a day of sleep the next
day?
Is it worth having a shittynight's sleep?
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Like I have to really weighout., how much am I going to
have to drink that night?
How late are we going to be out?
And when do I want to come homeand like, Not trying to say that
I overthink those things, but Ijust value certain things in my
life so much more than wantingto stay out and be the life of
the party the whole night to notmiss out on anything?
And I think again, that's justcomes with getting older.
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I that's, the only thing I canthink of that's changed I'm just
getting older and I just don'thave the same time and energy to
spend on overthinking And.
getting to, worried about whatthe results are going to be.
And I have so much proof in mylife.
That things will work out,however it needs to work out and
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that I'm going to be okay.
That is just what I trust now.
And I believe that if I say yesto.
Whatever it is, whether it's ajob or this corporate event with
20 people who want to do a paintnight., I will figure it out.
And if I don't and it sucks.
And then I'll learn a lesson andI won't do it again.
Or I'll switch something up andwe'll make it better.
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we'll make it, we'll make itwork.
But I think that.
we just have to.
Just give ourselves space.
To allow things to happen forus.
And I know as somebody who I amdefinitely been a control freak
in my life, I've definitelytried to control outcomes.
And I know that the harder thatI try to control an outcome, the
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worse it is for me and theoutcome.
And.
I was in network marketing foralmost, solidly working in
network marketing business forseven years.
And that when I actually amjust, this is just coming into
my brain, as I'm speaking rightnow, that whole business for
seven years was me forcing anoutcome every single month,
every single month, forcing.
(22:25):
A certain amount of sales,forcing, outcomes within my
team, trying to create a certainamount of dollar sales, trying
to create certain amount oforders.
Trying to force force forceforce force.
It's that industry is definitelybuilt on.
Cultivating people to cultivateoutcomes and it is.
It's almost.
Yeah, this is a whole otherpodcast.
(22:47):
It's almost it's detrimental toyour mental health.
I will say that for sure.
And I'm so glad I don't, I'm notin that industry anymore.
Because even though.
I made a lot of money in thatindustry.
And I appreciate that.
What I lost was a lot of mentalhealth.
(23:09):
It's that makes sense.
There's a things that just,yeah.
That's a podcast for anotherday.
If you want to hear a podcast onnetwork marketing, let me know.
I will happily record my networkmarketing experience for y'all.
If you'd like to hear thatstory, just let me know, drop me
a DM in my Instagram.
I am Shana.
Recker.
And just, even if you justdropped the word network
(23:30):
marketing, I will be happy torecord an episode on that.
But yeah.
I just think that whole time inmy life was me forcing outcomes
and trying to create somethingthat was just built off.
The wrong energy.
The wrong energy from day one.
And which is why it ultimatelyimploded because, it's, that's
(23:51):
something you can't sustain.
You can't sustain that furtheryour entire life.
It would just, it would burn youout.
So bad.
And I think that's exactly whatwas going on in my coaching
business too.
With social media and having toshow up all the time.
And, if you're not showing up onsocial media, how are you going
to find your clients and allthese things?
And I was trying to control anoutcome, trying to control
(24:11):
something to be a certain way.
And it was exhausting.
And it absolutely lead me toburnout.
And I wasn't able to just let goand let it be because I needed
to make money.
I needed to pay my bills.
I needed things to go a certainway I needed so many people to
sign up so that I could count onthis and that, and it was just.
Again, not a, healthyrelationship with trying to
(24:33):
control outcomes.
And I think that's why when Ilet go.
Of everything.
Like when I let go of thecoaching business, even when I
let go of network marketing.
When I let go of the coachingbusiness specifically, because
that just is my most recent one.
I let go.
And I started that job of thesalon and that worked out
beautifully because I let go andI just let it happen.
(24:55):
I started doing the paint nightsbecause I just let go and let it
happen.
And we're having so much funwith them.
I started doing done for youservices cause I let go.
And I just thought, well, I'lljust throw this out there and
see what happens.
And literally, I have.
I have, I can't even take on anew client right now, cause I'm
totally booked.
And I love the work and, it'sjust working because I'm not
(25:16):
trying to control it.
It's just happening.
I'm just letting it flow.
And I think.
That is the major point that I'mtrying to make here.
So, if you want to.
Change something in your life.
If you're feeling like you needto move in a new direction or
you're, you're thinking aboutstarting something or, many
people message me on my artaccount.
(25:38):
They Shana Recker underscoreart.
My Instagram.
Who are like, oh, I've alwayswanted to paint.
And I used to do it when I was akid.
I just wish I had more time forit.
I'm here to tell you, make timefor it, like open yourself up to
something that brings you joyand happiness.
Because to be honest, that wasanother thing that I just opened
(25:59):
myself up to when I was reallystressed with my coaching
business just before I quit.
I said to my husband, I'm like,I need something outside of this
business to just give me some,to give me a break.
From constantly trying to marketmyself.
And I said, I just want one daya week where I can paint.
And I started painting at mydining room table.
(26:19):
And that's what led to me.
And I started, I created anInstagram account just because
it was fun.
And I was like, oh, I'll justshow what I'm doing here and see
what happens.
And it turned into peoplewanting to purchase art, which
turned into me creating ShanaRecker art.com, which turned
into me spending more and moretime in the studio painting,
which led to the paint nightsand so-and-so.
And so you see what I'm saying?
(26:39):
It's letting the nudges that youare feeling called to move
towards guide you.
And here's the thing.
I've had nudges my, I had anudge to join a network
marketing team and have thatbusiness.
And did it Sure.
Was it super successful?,financially for me, it was.
Was it something that I could dofor my entire life?
(27:00):
No, but I follow that nudge.
I got something out of it.
It led me to the next thing,which led me to the next thing,
which lately, this is what I'msaying.
You've got to trust that thethings that.
Whether they're working out foryou and then maybe they stop
working for you or they work.
They don't work for you at all.
You're still taking a step in adirection that's leading you to
the next step.
So nothing is a quote-unquotefailure.
(27:22):
It's just another, it's justanother step.
It's just another directionyou're moving into.
And if we can let go and trust.
That these things are moving usto what we're I believe meant to
do on this planet.
I believe we all have a purpose.
Then the only way you're goingto get there is if you can let
go and allow it to happen anddon't put these crazy
(27:43):
expectations.
On results for yourself.
Like don't don't.
Box yourself in to a specificresult.
And if it doesn't happen, Youknow, you're a failure and
whatever, if it doesn't happen.
What's the next thing.
What's the next thing.
Right?
And that's.
That's all.
I'm really trying to say.
That's all I got.
I just really thought that wassomething that needed to be
(28:05):
said.
And.
I said it.
So there you go.
That's it.
That's all I have to say.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson this.
If you are somebody whoresonated with us at all and you
want to have a conversationabout it.
You guys know where to find meon Instagram.
It's also in my show notes.
And I love being back here withyou guys.
I hope that you're loving ittoo.
I love these littleconversations.
(28:27):
Who knows what's going to benext.
If there's something you want meto talk about, like I said, if
you want me to talk about mynetwork marketing experience,
I'm happy to do that.
If you want me to talk aboutsomething else?
I'm all yours.
All right, everyone.
That's it for me until nexttime.
Bye for now.
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