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June 24, 2020 95 min

Stevie Nelson and Dave Horwitz chat with Joel Leon (storyteller, artist, father and performer) about the power of the internet in the face of a social movement, his TED talk about co-parenting, and empowering anti-racists with louder bullhorns. Support these black owned LA coffee shops! BloomandPlume.com , https://www.instagram.com/obetanddels/

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