October 3, 2023 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to another In-Wheel Time Podcast, a 30
minute mini version of theIn-Wheel Time Car Show that airs
live every Saturday morning, 8to 11am, central.
Howdy.
It's the In-Wheel Time Car TalkShow today, coming to you from
the 5th annual Woody'sWaterfront Car Show in San Leon,
(00:24):
texas, and now the guest who'sentered in today's judged car
show.
We're looking forward tolearning about another hot rod.
I promise you that I got todrive the 2023 Infiniti QX50 and
I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Conrad has the Cruise-Incalendar.
You have the Cruise-In calendarup.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, sir, are you ready?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Two thumbs through the pages Later, we're going to
bring you the stories makingautomotive news headlines.
It's just ahead on the In-WheelTime Car Talk Show, howdy,
along with Mike out of thisworld, mars, who's somewhere out
the ground oh wait a minute.
I see him coming out of the.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Port-A-Potty down there.
No, he's a fishing trawler.
He got on.
Is that what it was?
He was fishing in thePort-A-Potty.
He was again.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
He was, he was he was connected to the trawler, king
Conrad along, is here with us.
We also have we Need More JeffZekin.
We also have with us todaymaking a rare special, and he's
really ornery today.
He is ornery, he's just gotthis attitude.
He's telling me how to programthe show.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's telling us how to do it.
We have with us today.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
ladies and gentlemen, Obi Johnson, All right,
everybody on here Mr.
Johnson, hey, hey, it's good tosee you.
Obi, could you change themicrophone light in the console
please?
You can't?
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead andread your nut books, because
that's you know.
(01:49):
I know that that's your thingwhen, at your Puck-On Farm,
p-can, p-can farm.
So are we going to introducehim properly?
David, hmm, ainsley, he's here,and all of his splendid glory.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With the sun from behind.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
As you get his shadow of David.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That and his hair wafting in the breeze.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's my hair.
He has some.
That's my hair.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You lost all of yours in.
The breeze Must get thereflection, so you know I saw
Mars earlier walking this way.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
but I guess he's not going to.
He's going to walk the plane orsomething.
Walk the plane.
He's going to walk.
This way it sounds like anAerosmith song oh this way, or a
Run DMC.
Yeah, is that who it is, runDMC?
Well, they did the cover for it, which I thought was as good as
Aerosmith's.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That song actually brought Aerosmith back because
they were on the flounder.
Oh, they did that song together, didn't they?
Yeah yeah, yeah, that wasreally good.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, I New audiences.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We were talking last hour about cars that sold at
auction on the Hemings MotorNews website, so I want to
continue that, can we?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
continue that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because we're at a wonderful car show here.
I was going to say a cruise in,but it's not a cruise in, it
was an actual event Woody'sWaterfront Car Show here at the
Topwater Grill in San Leon,texas.
We're right out on the point ofGalveston Bay and there's a big
ship going down the shipchannel over there.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, there's been a couple of passings today here
it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's a little windy, as you can tell by our
microphones.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's a lot windy, it's gorgeous though.
But that's what's keeping itpleasant.
You know, past me, Benny, youwere pouring sweat.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Not a breeze to be had, but it's an actual
beautiful morning.
I got some good shots of thesunrise again.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So if you're out in the area, come on by and take a
look at some of these gorgeouscars.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So now we're going to talk about some of the cars
that sold at auction and we liketo play Stump the Band kind of
I might be joining another band.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know you can join me there.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Maybe Good for you.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So here is one for you, Conrad A 2004 Mercury
Marauder.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh OK.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now this is a crown Vic that when Mercury was in
business, they took and theysouped it up.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Kind of hot rodded it .
Speaker 1 (04:11):
More suspension and black out trim that can
intercept yeah how much?
17,000.
17,000, david guesses I'm goingto go 9,000.
9,000.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'll go 21,000.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
OK, well, let's meet in the middle.
How about a 12, 6?
Ok, see, now, if that's a realMarauder and it's clean, I would
consider buying something likethat.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, there's a collectability to that car.
There is Not as a daily driver.
It would be for cruisers, no,as a daily driver, really.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Absolutely, and I will tell you this A
acquaintance of mine who justgot married recently, a young
guy.
He bought at auction a policeTahoe.
It's painted black.
I mean, all they did was takethe Police labels on it?
(05:03):
Yeah, and they took the lightsoff of it.
But you see that thing comingdown the street.
You can slam on the brainexactly, and it's one of those
cars that you can't kill.
It'll run forever and ever andever and ever.
Amen.
Yep, how about?
This would be a perfect car forthis show a 1936 Chevrolet
(05:25):
pickup truck 36 1936 a pickuptruck.
I'm gonna hold my hand over theover the price.
I can't.
You can take a look at tryingto get a visual, it's a custom.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'd say about 40 and no.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm thinking 62 well, both of you are wrong.
It's sold for 36 593.
Wow.
It looks good in a photo does,but you know, you never know.
You know the problem with thesemany times Is they've been gone
through so many hands andhacked up so many times.
And you can you can slap apaint job on anything and make
(06:01):
it look good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, but you don't necessarily know what the
modifications are that are doneto it, and that's the scary part
and or or you it looks likeyeah.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It looks like it's got a you know an R4
transmission in it, becausethat's what it looks like on the
outside, but it's all beenjimmied up and jacked with on
the inside to give it some sortof performance thing.
Everybody's about to fall outand put mud on it.
Everybody.
Yeah, how about a 1986?
Suzuki Samurai?
(06:31):
Now, we could have shown this.
We could have shown this inWoody show, because it qualifies
.
It's not, it's not what.
What are you?
What are you holding up?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
86 Suzuki Samurai.
You said, you said hey.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
If you broke the windshield you're talking about
the price.
No, I'm talking about enteringit, because you could enter this
show if you had an 88 or oldercar.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, 88 or old.
Don could have entered the show.
He's 88, so give me the specson it again 1986, right Suzuki
Samurai 2500 death machine.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Three grand Mars, 45,000 Mars isn't here.
College.
Mars guesses 45.
What's David's guess?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
What's David's?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
guess.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Mars get 45, and I'm 1500 1500.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, no, it actually sold some nut job, bought this
thing for $13,125.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, it's got patina .
You remember a Radio TV guyfrom back in the day, friend of
mine, roger Gray.
Roger Gray actually bought oneof those.
How about here's one this isfor you, conrad a 1962 Mercury
Monterey.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh, cool car.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's a, it's a great big four doors today.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah big fins.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, no, no, no fans .
Speaker 2 (08:09):
No, no, fans.
That was after.
62 was after the fin.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, it's rounded off kind of looked a little bit
have that weird angle on theback window.
I can't tell you.
Picture Seventy, but I mean, itlooks clean, but you never know
1270 70, 9000.
Now this one here I I pickedthis one out specifically for
(08:32):
Conrad because you know he's abig Oldsmobile fan anything
Oldsmobile, he's in right.
Yes, a 1963 Oldsmobile jet fire.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, jet fire was to Oldsmobile.
What Grand Prix was to Pontiac?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
or the Skylark was to Buick Sure, looks like it to me
.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, I'm sorry.
No, you said jet fire, that'swhat it says.
Okay, jet fire was the littlef-80 farm.
Sorry, I thought you said starfire.
Jet fire is the, the precursorto the Cutlass, and it was with
a jet fire.
It actually had a 215 cubicinch all-aluminum v8 with a
turbocharger on it.
What, oh yeah, from Oldsmobile,and I'll say 25.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'll go 19 Conrad.
You should have bought this car$4,600 for, not sure that
they're real, not sure not surethat the color would really.
It's painted like apricot Creaminterior.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I would, I would not, yeah, I would not change a
thing on that car.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
The 63 jet fire for forty six hundred about dog
beautiful, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
even Even Brad Thompson with God's garage, I
think would buy that yep and ohyeah, turn it around and make it
something special and give itaway to eat.
Tub it out, oh god.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, I've got one for you that I have never seen
before.
This would be on chasingclassic cars, but I haven't even
seen it there.
Are you ready, conrad Sure,have you ever heard of a 1963, a
DAX?
Nope.
No a DD ax type 47.
I didn't even know there was atype one.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
No, but I've got a DD .
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Taking prevision for it.
Here's what it looks like.
It looks kind of like a cartoonthing.
It's a three-wheeler with abody with a nose that sticks up
in the air, with one headline.
Oh my gosh is that not ugly?
It looks like something thatthe post office would have
bought a million of $3600,really 3600, 3500.
(10:46):
Did you saw the price?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, no, I didn't know you didn't know what Jeffrey
was bidding on it.
Yeah it would have had to havelike a.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was sniping it, you know probably had a motorcycle.
I either that or a Briggs andStrat 5 hours power.
I did a segment on the tuk-tuk.
That's the tuk-tuk.
I'm about a 68 Vespa.
We don't usually venture intomotorcycles.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's two things you picked that are in history 1968
Vespa 150 $1700.
Oh no, I'll say about fourgrand actually $4,600.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, there's a collectability for the Vespa.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We used to make.
I don't understand, we used tomake you Big fun.
You know, I see a creeper.
I see a creeper walking thecoastline over here and he's got
.
He's got a white beard andmuskash sunglasses and he's and
he's going bald and I knowthat's going bald.
I know him, you know him too.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So yeah, the creeper.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Who was he's looking for his white van?
Well, no, he's not, but lookwho I found.
That ain't Woody.
Hey, sit your butt down overhere.
We want to talk to you.
Okay, sit down.
Ladies and gentlemen, one ofthe greatest auto riders that
has ever lived, and you know himfrom the Houston Chronicle.
(12:06):
For how many years at theChronicle?
38 years at the HoustonChronicle.
You gotta sit down this isradio, not newspaper.
38 years at the HoustonChronicle, we can spread some
newspaper on the floor aroundyou and yeah, and I'll bet you
that you didn't start as theautomotive rider there, did you?
(12:29):
No, I didn't.
What did you start?
As I was a hot metal printer.
You were at the printing press.
You were here last year.
I was, yeah, you were here.
Yeah, we had to reach out, youknow, tim.
Spell.
Yeah yeah, well, he wascreeping.
Pull that microphone up to yourmouth, okay yeah, yeah, this is
radio A little bit closer, alittle bit closer.
There you go, tim Spell.
How in the heck are you?
(12:50):
I'm doing wonderful.
It's so it's still good to seeyou.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's great being here .
It's great to be seen, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it's better than being observed too, yeah,
and observed.
Well, yeah, I'll be.
I did not know that you workedin the printing side.
I did, I'll be, I was anjourneyman hot metal printer.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
How old were you?
Ten?
Well, I started, actually Istarted the newspaper business
when I was 15.
I was a deliverin, I was ainserter, an inserter.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, and they were big at the time.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, they were, and so I worked my way up to the
circulation office and thenbecame a printer.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And then worked my way through college and then
started the automotive.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So this was your first job at the Chronicle.
Yeah, so you worked from yourfirst job all the way through
retirement.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, Unbelievable, I've never known anybody to do
that?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
I was not a tumbleweed, Istayed at one place, yeah that's
unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, you boy, you see them come and go and
actually you actually wentthrough what?
Two or three buildings, andthey tore down the last one.
They did, yeah, they tore itdown.
I don't know what's there now.
It's an office building orparking lot downtown.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, it was originally.
We had Jesse Jones endowmentand then Hearst bought the paper
, right, so you know.
So I had some changes ofleadership.
Boy talking about changes.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, the newspaper business lots of changes.
Does it even exist anymore?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They're still doing newspapers.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't know, yeah, I don't know Need something for
the bottom of the parricage.
The Port Arthur news stillcomes out?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Oh does it?
Yeah, my mother gets it.
It's six pages.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And they're looking for somebody to write some
columns.
Yeah, but only one person forthe whole paper.
They've got a wheel chairsegment, but they need a motor
right here for it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I actually work for the Port Arthur news, so you
want I work for the Port Arthurnews.
That was when I was my firstjob as an inserter.
That's my hometown, port Arthur.
Is it really yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Graduated from Thomas Jefferson yeah, football
rivalries yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah aren't you sweet ?
Thank you so much.
We now have, ladies andgentlemen, some fine top water
grill bloody marries, and it'sabout time to boy because
everything that we've all beenthrough this morning on this
broadcast.
I get to thank you, tim.
Look at you.
Sure, spill it all over theseelectronics.
(15:23):
How about that?
Well, that would be over atDavid's into the table.
Get one, david.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So Tim real how many years to do the auto part of it
I did about about 25.
That's a lot of free cars.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
A lot of cars.
The other thing Tim did hehelped start the Texas auto
riders.
He was one of.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You were like oh, you're the original first five.
Yeah, yeah, it's your fault.
The boy is all gone the hell ina hand basket.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Now go back to Creepin and the Texas Truck
rodeo.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I found it that yeah, yeah, didn't know they lost it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
See, you got up this morning thinking I'm gonna go
and I'm gonna see those guys andyou know we pulled that chain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what are you doing today inretirement?
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Pretty much nothing I'm.
I have an old car that I'vebeen working on what about it.
It's a 1449 Ford Club coupe.
No cool, yeah, flathead in it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Well, I guess what ?
Since you live down here now, Iguess Breeze like today
wouldn't be bad, but the heatwe've had, my gosh.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It has been tough and you know.
And again, if you have aflathead Ford, you don't want to
be running it in 100 degreeheat.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, they don't.
It runs for short periods.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They do overheat.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah there, is that yeah so I just so did you bring
it out, or he's still working onit's?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
well, it's at the end of the street where I live.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And how far was that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
did you walk here?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Actually, I took my golf cart thought the golf cart,
yeah, and the police let you dothat they did.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I joined a Early Ford VA Club of Houston, Okay,
and so it's really been quiteinformative.
Do you ever go to any of themeetings?
I do yeah, I have to drive allthe way into Houston, but it's
been.
You know it's great.
Just a tons of information.
What?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
what have you learned about working on this car If
you never had one before?
Have you know, not a flatheadnow, and I mean, have you done
any engine work on it?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Only superficial stuff.
You know, I've changed out thethe carburetor and the fuel pump
and the thermostats and I Ijust put, I Just put electric
windshield Wipers yeah, and theold vacuum one that quit working
when you stepped on the gasexactly and I did a conversion
(17:51):
12 volt and Just cleaned up.
I have a gutted it, put a newinterior in it and so that was
that did you do the upholsteryyourself at the house.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
What's that?
You're doing the work at thehouse.
I am oh good for you.
Did you put your?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
own upholstery in it.
I did, do you do tuck and roll,I can get you some business.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Actually I had the seats done and I did all of the
door panels.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah so you know I really I can't.
You know I did.
I did the pleats on the doorpanels.
With the way I did it Iobviously I can't, so wear
anything.
So I got plastic lattice workand and covered the lattice
pieces with upholstery and thenbolting the gluodal moment on
there it looks great.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
There you go, yeah, and and with that.
When that doesn't work anymore,yeah, you can take it and has
it skirting around.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Trailer a trailer.
Yeah, there you go, I can dothat.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know it's a business for you right there.
Yeah, I'm ready.
What you're looking for is abusiness.
Yeah, yeah, I just want to work, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I've been retired for quite a while else,
so it's.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I know, you know it's funny I thought I might see you
down here and the last time Isaw you actually working and I
saw you many, many, many timesat the Houston auto show, the
new car show and and whenever hewalked in I don't know what it
is about this guy, I but he hasa seat open next to him and
(19:22):
there I sit.
So he's trying to be allserious and everything and I'm
shooting jokes and being funny.
He's taking notes.
Which is a rarity and he'sbeing all print reporter-ish.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He records everything with his hand held recorder.
I do and I always tried toavoid Don if I could, but I
couldn't stick around.
I was like you know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I know I'm like a bad piece of gum that gets stuck on
your shoe.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You are entertaining, though that's a you know Well.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know, but I don't do it intentionally, it
just happens.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, I miss interviews.
I miss you know.
I'm glad I got to meet a lot ofthe legends back in the day and
a lot of them are gone now andI became pretty good friends
with a lot of them.
Did you get to meet CarolShelby A lot?
I knew her very well.
That's one I wish.
I had, I had a cell phone number, in fact, where I could call
him.
And yeah, the first time that Imet him was, I think, 1991, at
(20:29):
Indy Christ was sending up aninterview and I was thinking,
man, this is great, I get tomeet this legend.
And so I walk into the sweet,the Christ of the sweet, and all
I hear is you are people goingout at the show, you know,
blankety, blank, blank, blank,and they go back and forth.
(20:49):
So it was quite the, you know,he just didn't cooperate very
well.
He was kind of contangorous,yes, but went on, and he drove
me around Indy, and at the timeI had one of those cell phones
that looked like walkie talkie,you know, oh yeah, and I handed
it to him and so we did a radio,oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh, you did.
Yeah, just take me around itaround Indy?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
How cool is that?
Yeah, but I got to ride withhim a lot and interview him a
lot and I've got a lot ofstories.
How about AJ Foyt?
That's the strangest thing.
I've seen him many times but Inever really got to interviewing
Lee Iacocca.
I got to spend a lot of timewith him.
How about DeLorean?
(21:33):
No, craig Reed Love.
Oh, wow, he just passed.
Yeah, he did Just passed.
It was really interesting.
One of the most fascinatingthings you know he was telling
me is that the most comfortablehe was when he was just about to
do a speed run.
He can get away from all themedia, all the hype, everything,
(21:56):
all the sponsors and justconcentrate.
You focus in on that one thingand let the rest of the garbage
go.
Yeah, he said the weirdestthing when you get close to the
speed of sound, you have theillusion that you're driving
straight into the ground.
And he said you have to combatthat the whole time because it
feels like you're going rightinto the ground.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Really, yeah, never heard that.
That is what you saw.
Oh, you've never gone that fast.
I tried that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I never but so I got to do some speed runs during my
years here.
So I enjoyed that kind of stuffat Black Rock and then I went
out and hung out with people atSoCal at Bonneville, and of
course I did Texas Mile quite afew times.
(22:41):
Yeah, we've had them on theshow a couple of times.
They're a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, I did not know this about you in the Texas
Truck Rodeo.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, I founded it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He's the mastermind.
So what prompted you to havethat genius idea in the state of
Texas?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Well, all the other clubs, they were doing these car
events, these car competitionsamong manufacturers, and I said
how can we distinguish ourselves?
Well, since Texas was thisenormous truck market.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, it still is yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I said let's do a truck competition.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So back then was it just trucks yeah, it was just
truck SUVs.
That was the beginning of theSUVs.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Beginning of the SUVs .
You remember what year that was?
The 94.
Well, it was 93 for the 94.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Right modern year.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And it was cool I mean, in this competition, what
we did.
We even had mud pits and we gotto do mud races in
manufacturers' car.
How fun it was.
A nightmare for the people whohad to clean the cars.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Clean the cars or the one who had to tow it out of
the mud.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, there was oil in the mud and all these rocks
and stuff.
They all chipped up, but it wasa lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
How bad Tadum, yeah, old ma'am.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
We also had Bob Bondarock this is a separate
thing.
Come out, you know.
It was Carol Shelby's friend.
I have a story about him too,and we had competitions between
the Detroit on the riders andthe Texas on the riders.
Oh my, gosh.
So it was fun and I've got agood Shelby Bondarock story.
(24:28):
But I had to clean it up alittle bit.
Well kind of yeah, kind of.
Well, shelby was telling meBondarock has a reputation for
liking women.
In fact I asked him in aninterview.
I said do you like racing orwomen?
Better?
He said women, hands down.
So that was his reputation.
(24:49):
So back he and Shelby wereracing in Mexico and Shelby
fixed him up with this localgirl.
And you know what Bondarock hadon his mind?
Yeah, so according to Shelby,bondarock was also very cheap
too, and so he went to pick upthis girl and when she opened
(25:14):
the door, her entire family wasthere, brother, sister and, of
course, no-transcript.
He ended up having to buy himdinner, oh Lord, yeah.
So he was disappointed.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, it was he.
I bet yeah, yeah, I can imaginehow fun.
What a great story.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah.
I was just thinking anotherShelby story.
He was telling me that back inI think it was 68, that
Chevrolet was going to marketthis King of the Road brand and
I think it was one of theirperformance cars, probably
Corvette.
And so he heard that he likedthe King of the Road so he sent
(25:58):
in his lawyers kind of overnightand stole that name from him
and got his copyright attorneyand everything.
He stole the King of the Roadname.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
For the KR, Corvette or Shelby.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, GT 500.
Kr.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
KR.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And so he was real proud of that, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I'm sure that it paid him well.
Yeah, it did.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He did OK.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But how true is the Shelby versus Ferrari story.
The movie.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I think a lot of it was true, and I mean I knew a
few of those characters.
I didn't know Ken Miles andthose guys.
So I actually learned a lotmyself.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But Bondurant was represented in the movie as well
.
Yeah, Bondurant was as one ofthe competitive drivers.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yes, he was represented in the movie and it
was really fun getting to knowthose guys, so I got to spend 30
minutes with ICOCA.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I want you to save that story Because I want you to
tell that story on the otherside of the break.
All right, we do a break oryour review.
We're going to do a break.
Ok, I've got to get out of thisand then we'll do the review
later.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We've got lots of time.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
We've got another hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yes sir, We've got a whole day.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Now that we finally got ourselves on the air, we got
another guest sitting overthere OK, so we got stuff OK.
Backing up, we're good.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, listen, I'd rather have it that way than
nothing.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
That's right, you've got a real guest, though.
Listen over here, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
No, you are the guest .
You're the man in the hot seatat the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
anyway, yeah if you just pull that microphone up a
little bit better, you'd be somuch cooler.
So you get for creeping around.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, that's right.
When I saw you I thought, ah,there's our next guest.
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It's the In-Wheel Time Car TalkShow today, coming to you from
the 5th annual Woody'sWaterfront Car Show in San Leon,
(00:24):
texas, and now the guest who'sentered in today's judged car
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Conrad has the Cruise-Incalendar.
You have the Cruise-In calendarup.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, sir, are you ready?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Two thumbs through the pages Later, we're going to
bring you the stories makingautomotive news headlines.
It's just ahead on the In-WheelTime Car Talk Show, howdy,
along with Mike out of thisworld, mars, who's somewhere out
the ground oh wait a minute.
I see him coming out of the.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Port-A-Potty down there.
No, he's a fishing trawler.
He got on.
Is that what it was?
He was fishing in thePort-A-Potty.
He was again.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
He was, he was he was connected to the trawler, king
Conrad along, is here with us.
We also have we Need More JeffZekin.
We also have with us todaymaking a rare special, and he's
really ornery today.
He is ornery, he's just gotthis attitude.
He's telling me how to programthe show.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
He's telling us how to do it.
We have with us today.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
ladies and gentlemen, Obi Johnson, All right,
everybody on here Mr.
Johnson, hey, hey, it's good tosee you.
Obi, could you change themicrophone light in the console
please?
You can't?
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead andread your nut books, because
that's you know.
(01:49):
I know that that's your thingwhen, at your Puck-On Farm,
p-can, p-can farm.
So are we going to introducehim properly?
David, hmm, ainsley, he's here,and all of his splendid glory.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With the sun from behind.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
As you get his shadow of David.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That and his hair wafting in the breeze.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's my hair.
He has some.
That's my hair.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You lost all of yours in.
The breeze Must get thereflection, so you know I saw
Mars earlier walking this way.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
but I guess he's not going to.
He's going to walk the plane orsomething.
Walk the plane.
He's going to walk.
This way it sounds like anAerosmith song oh this way, or a
Run DMC.
Yeah, is that who it is, runDMC?
Well, they did the cover for it, which I thought was as good as
Aerosmith's.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That song actually brought Aerosmith back because
they were on the flounder.
Oh, they did that song together, didn't they?
Yeah yeah, yeah, that wasreally good.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, I New audiences.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We were talking last hour about cars that sold at
auction on the Hemings MotorNews website, so I want to
continue that, can we?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
continue that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because we're at a wonderful car show here.
I was going to say a cruise in,but it's not a cruise in, it
was an actual event Woody'sWaterfront Car Show here at the
Topwater Grill in San Leon,texas.
We're right out on the point ofGalveston Bay and there's a big
ship going down the shipchannel over there.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, there's been a couple of passings today here
it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's a little windy, as you can tell by our
microphones.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's a lot windy, it's gorgeous though.
But that's what's keeping itpleasant.
You know, past me, Benny, youwere pouring sweat.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Not a breeze to be had, but it's an actual
beautiful morning.
I got some good shots of thesunrise again.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So if you're out in the area, come on by and take a
look at some of these gorgeouscars.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So now we're going to talk about some of the cars
that sold at auction and we liketo play Stump the Band kind of
I might be joining another band.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know you can join me there.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Maybe Good for you.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So here is one for you, Conrad A 2004 Mercury
Marauder.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh OK.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now this is a crown Vic that when Mercury was in
business, they took and theysouped it up.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Kind of hot rodded it .
Speaker 1 (04:11):
More suspension and black out trim that can
intercept yeah how much?
17,000.
17,000, david guesses I'm goingto go 9,000.
9,000.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'll go 21,000.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
OK, well, let's meet in the middle.
How about a 12, 6?
Ok, see, now, if that's a realMarauder and it's clean, I would
consider buying something likethat.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, there's a collectability to that car.
There is Not as a daily driver.
It would be for cruisers, no,as a daily driver, really.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Absolutely, and I will tell you this A
acquaintance of mine who justgot married recently, a young
guy.
He bought at auction a policeTahoe.
It's painted black.
I mean, all they did was takethe Police labels on it?
(05:03):
Yeah, and they took the lightsoff of it.
But you see that thing comingdown the street.
You can slam on the brainexactly, and it's one of those
cars that you can't kill.
It'll run forever and ever andever and ever.
Amen.
Yep, how about?
This would be a perfect car forthis show a 1936 Chevrolet
(05:25):
pickup truck 36 1936 a pickuptruck.
I'm gonna hold my hand over theover the price.
I can't.
You can take a look at tryingto get a visual, it's a custom.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'd say about 40 and no.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm thinking 62 well, both of you are wrong.
It's sold for 36 593.
Wow.
It looks good in a photo does,but you know, you never know.
You know the problem with thesemany times Is they've been gone
through so many hands andhacked up so many times.
And you can you can slap apaint job on anything and make
(06:01):
it look good.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, but you don't necessarily know what the
modifications are that are doneto it, and that's the scary part
and or or you it looks likeyeah.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It looks like it's got a you know an R4
transmission in it, becausethat's what it looks like on the
outside, but it's all beenjimmied up and jacked with on
the inside to give it some sortof performance thing.
Everybody's about to fall outand put mud on it.
Everybody.
Yeah, how about a 1986?
Suzuki Samurai?
(06:31):
Now, we could have shown this.
We could have shown this inWoody show, because it qualifies
.
It's not, it's not what.
What are you?
What are you holding up?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
86 Suzuki Samurai.
You said, you said hey.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
If you broke the windshield you're talking about
the price.
No, I'm talking about enteringit, because you could enter this
show if you had an 88 or oldercar.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, 88 or old.
Don could have entered the show.
He's 88, so give me the specson it again 1986, right Suzuki
Samurai 2500 death machine.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Three grand Mars, 45,000 Mars isn't here.
College.
Mars guesses 45.
What's David's guess?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
What's David's?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
guess.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Mars get 45, and I'm 1500 1500.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, no, it actually sold some nut job, bought this
thing for $13,125.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, it's got patina .
You remember a Radio TV guyfrom back in the day, friend of
mine, roger Gray.
Roger Gray actually bought oneof those.
How about here's one this isfor you, conrad a 1962 Mercury
Monterey.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh, cool car.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's a, it's a great big four doors today.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah big fins.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, no, no, no fans .
Speaker 2 (08:09):
No, no, fans.
That was after.
62 was after the fin.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, it's rounded off kind of looked a little bit
have that weird angle on theback window.
I can't tell you.
Picture Seventy, but I mean, itlooks clean, but you never know
1270 70, 9000.
Now this one here I I pickedthis one out specifically for
(08:32):
Conrad because you know he's abig Oldsmobile fan anything
Oldsmobile, he's in right.
Yes, a 1963 Oldsmobile jet fire.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, jet fire was to Oldsmobile.
What Grand Prix was to Pontiac?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
or the Skylark was to Buick Sure, looks like it to me
.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, I'm sorry.
No, you said jet fire, that'swhat it says.
Okay, jet fire was the littlef-80 farm.
Sorry, I thought you said starfire.
Jet fire is the, the precursorto the Cutlass, and it was with
a jet fire.
It actually had a 215 cubicinch all-aluminum v8 with a
turbocharger on it.
What, oh yeah, from Oldsmobile,and I'll say 25.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'll go 19 Conrad.
You should have bought this car$4,600 for, not sure that
they're real, not sure not surethat the color would really.
It's painted like apricot Creaminterior.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I would, I would not, yeah, I would not change a
thing on that car.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
The 63 jet fire for forty six hundred about dog
beautiful, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
even Even Brad Thompson with God's garage, I
think would buy that yep and ohyeah, turn it around and make it
something special and give itaway to eat.
Tub it out, oh god.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, I've got one for you that I have never seen
before.
This would be on chasingclassic cars, but I haven't even
seen it there.
Are you ready, conrad Sure,have you ever heard of a 1963, a
DAX?
Nope.
No a DD ax type 47.
I didn't even know there was atype one.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
No, but I've got a DD .
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Taking prevision for it.
Here's what it looks like.
It looks kind of like a cartoonthing.
It's a three-wheeler with abody with a nose that sticks up
in the air, with one headline.
Oh my gosh is that not ugly?
It looks like something thatthe post office would have
bought a million of $3600,really 3600, 3500.
(10:46):
Did you saw the price?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, no, I didn't know you didn't know what Jeffrey
was bidding on it.
Yeah it would have had to havelike a.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was sniping it, you know probably had a motorcycle.
I either that or a Briggs andStrat 5 hours power.
I did a segment on the tuk-tuk.
That's the tuk-tuk.
I'm about a 68 Vespa.
We don't usually venture intomotorcycles.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's two things you picked that are in history 1968
Vespa 150 $1700.
Oh no, I'll say about fourgrand actually $4,600.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, there's a collectability for the Vespa.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
We used to make.
I don't understand, we used tomake you Big fun.
You know, I see a creeper.
I see a creeper walking thecoastline over here and he's got
.
He's got a white beard andmuskash sunglasses and he's and
he's going bald and I knowthat's going bald.
I know him, you know him too.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So yeah, the creeper.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Who was he's looking for his white van?
Well, no, he's not, but lookwho I found.
That ain't Woody.
Hey, sit your butt down overhere.
We want to talk to you.
Okay, sit down.
Ladies and gentlemen, one ofthe greatest auto riders that
has ever lived, and you know himfrom the Houston Chronicle.
(12:06):
For how many years at theChronicle?
38 years at the HoustonChronicle.
You gotta sit down this isradio, not newspaper.
38 years at the HoustonChronicle, we can spread some
newspaper on the floor aroundyou and yeah, and I'll bet you
that you didn't start as theautomotive rider there, did you?
(12:29):
No, I didn't.
What did you start?
As I was a hot metal printer.
You were at the printing press.
You were here last year.
I was, yeah, you were here.
Yeah, we had to reach out, youknow, tim.
Spell.
Yeah yeah, well, he wascreeping.
Pull that microphone up to yourmouth, okay yeah, yeah, this is
radio A little bit closer, alittle bit closer.
There you go, tim Spell.
How in the heck are you?
(12:50):
I'm doing wonderful.
It's so it's still good to seeyou.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's great being here .
It's great to be seen, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it's better than being observed too, yeah,
and observed.
Well, yeah, I'll be.
I did not know that you workedin the printing side.
I did, I'll be, I was anjourneyman hot metal printer.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
How old were you?
Ten?
Well, I started, actually Istarted the newspaper business
when I was 15.
I was a deliverin, I was ainserter, an inserter.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, and they were big at the time.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, they were, and so I worked my way up to the
circulation office and thenbecame a printer.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And then worked my way through college and then
started the automotive.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So this was your first job at the Chronicle.
Yeah, so you worked from yourfirst job all the way through
retirement.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, Unbelievable, I've never known anybody to do
that?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
I was not a tumbleweed, Istayed at one place, yeah that's
unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, you boy, you see them come and go and
actually you actually wentthrough what?
Two or three buildings, andthey tore down the last one.
They did, yeah, they tore itdown.
I don't know what's there now.
It's an office building orparking lot downtown.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, it was originally.
We had Jesse Jones endowmentand then Hearst bought the paper
, right, so you know.
So I had some changes ofleadership.
Boy talking about changes.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, the newspaper business lots of changes.
Does it even exist anymore?
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They're still doing newspapers.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't know, yeah, I don't know Need something for
the bottom of the parricage.
The Port Arthur news stillcomes out?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Oh does it?
Yeah, my mother gets it.
It's six pages.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And they're looking for somebody to write some
columns.
Yeah, but only one person forthe whole paper.
They've got a wheel chairsegment, but they need a motor
right here for it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I actually work for the Port Arthur news, so you
want I work for the Port Arthurnews.
That was when I was my firstjob as an inserter.
That's my hometown, port Arthur.
Is it really yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Graduated from Thomas Jefferson yeah, football
rivalries yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah aren't you sweet ?
Thank you so much.
We now have, ladies andgentlemen, some fine top water
grill bloody marries, and it'sabout time to boy because
everything that we've all beenthrough this morning on this
broadcast.
I get to thank you, tim.
Look at you.
Sure, spill it all over theseelectronics.
(15:23):
How about that?
Well, that would be over atDavid's into the table.
Get one, david.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So Tim real how many years to do the auto part of it
I did about about 25.
That's a lot of free cars.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
A lot of cars.
The other thing Tim did hehelped start the Texas auto
riders.
He was one of.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You were like oh, you're the original first five.
Yeah, yeah, it's your fault.
The boy is all gone the hell ina hand basket.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Now go back to Creepin and the Texas Truck
rodeo.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I found it that yeah, yeah, didn't know they lost it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
See, you got up this morning thinking I'm gonna go
and I'm gonna see those guys andyou know we pulled that chain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what are you doing today inretirement?
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Pretty much nothing I'm.
I have an old car that I'vebeen working on what about it.
It's a 1449 Ford Club coupe.
No cool, yeah, flathead in it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Well, I guess what ?
Since you live down here now, Iguess Breeze like today
wouldn't be bad, but the heatwe've had, my gosh.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It has been tough and you know.
And again, if you have aflathead Ford, you don't want to
be running it in 100 degreeheat.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, they don't.
It runs for short periods.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
They do overheat.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah there, is that yeah so I just so did you bring
it out, or he's still working onit's?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
well, it's at the end of the street where I live.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And how far was that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
did you walk here?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Actually, I took my golf cart thought the golf cart,
yeah, and the police let you dothat they did.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I joined a Early Ford VA Club of Houston, Okay,
and so it's really been quiteinformative.
Do you ever go to any of themeetings?
I do yeah, I have to drive allthe way into Houston, but it's
been.
You know it's great.
Just a tons of information.
What?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
what have you learned about working on this car If
you never had one before?
Have you know, not a flatheadnow, and I mean, have you done
any engine work on it?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Only superficial stuff.
You know, I've changed out thethe carburetor and the fuel pump
and the thermostats and I Ijust put, I Just put electric
windshield Wipers yeah, and theold vacuum one that quit working
when you stepped on the gasexactly and I did a conversion
(17:51):
12 volt and Just cleaned up.
I have a gutted it, put a newinterior in it and so that was
that did you do the upholsteryyourself at the house.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
What's that?
You're doing the work at thehouse.
I am oh good for you.
Did you put your?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
own upholstery in it.
I did, do you do tuck and roll,I can get you some business.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Actually I had the seats done and I did all of the
door panels.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah so you know I really I can't.
You know I did.
I did the pleats on the doorpanels.
With the way I did it Iobviously I can't, so wear
anything.
So I got plastic lattice workand and covered the lattice
pieces with upholstery and thenbolting the gluodal moment on
there it looks great.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
There you go, yeah, and and with that.
When that doesn't work anymore,yeah, you can take it and has
it skirting around.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Trailer a trailer.
Yeah, there you go, I can dothat.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know it's a business for you right there.
Yeah, I'm ready.
What you're looking for is abusiness.
Yeah, yeah, I just want to work, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I've been retired for quite a while else,
so it's.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I know, you know it's funny I thought I might see you
down here and the last time Isaw you actually working and I
saw you many, many, many timesat the Houston auto show, the
new car show and and whenever hewalked in I don't know what it
is about this guy, I but he hasa seat open next to him and
(19:22):
there I sit.
So he's trying to be allserious and everything and I'm
shooting jokes and being funny.
He's taking notes.
Which is a rarity and he'sbeing all print reporter-ish.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He records everything with his hand held recorder.
I do and I always tried toavoid Don if I could, but I
couldn't stick around.
I was like you know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I know I'm like a bad piece of gum that gets stuck on
your shoe.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You are entertaining, though that's a you know Well.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know, but I don't do it intentionally, it
just happens.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, I miss interviews.
I miss you know.
I'm glad I got to meet a lot ofthe legends back in the day and
a lot of them are gone now andI became pretty good friends
with a lot of them.
Did you get to meet CarolShelby A lot?
I knew her very well.
That's one I wish.
I had, I had a cell phone number, in fact, where I could call
him.
And yeah, the first time that Imet him was, I think, 1991, at
(20:29):
Indy Christ was sending up aninterview and I was thinking,
man, this is great, I get tomeet this legend.
And so I walk into the sweet,the Christ of the sweet, and all
I hear is you are people goingout at the show, you know,
blankety, blank, blank, blank,and they go back and forth.
(20:49):
So it was quite the, you know,he just didn't cooperate very
well.
He was kind of contangorous,yes, but went on, and he drove
me around Indy, and at the timeI had one of those cell phones
that looked like walkie talkie,you know, oh yeah, and I handed
it to him and so we did a radio,oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh, you did.
Yeah, just take me around itaround Indy?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
How cool is that?
Yeah, but I got to ride withhim a lot and interview him a
lot and I've got a lot ofstories.
How about AJ Foyt?
That's the strangest thing.
I've seen him many times but Inever really got to interviewing
Lee Iacocca.
I got to spend a lot of timewith him.
How about DeLorean?
(21:33):
No, craig Reed Love.
Oh, wow, he just passed.
Yeah, he did Just passed.
It was really interesting.
One of the most fascinatingthings you know he was telling
me is that the most comfortablehe was when he was just about to
do a speed run.
He can get away from all themedia, all the hype, everything,
(21:56):
all the sponsors and justconcentrate.
You focus in on that one thingand let the rest of the garbage
go.
Yeah, he said the weirdestthing when you get close to the
speed of sound, you have theillusion that you're driving
straight into the ground.
And he said you have to combatthat the whole time because it
feels like you're going rightinto the ground.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Really, yeah, never heard that.
That is what you saw.
Oh, you've never gone that fast.
I tried that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I never but so I got to do some speed runs during my
years here.
So I enjoyed that kind of stuffat Black Rock and then I went
out and hung out with people atSoCal at Bonneville, and of
course I did Texas Mile quite afew times.
(22:41):
Yeah, we've had them on theshow a couple of times.
They're a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, I did not know this about you in the Texas
Truck Rodeo.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, I founded it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He's the mastermind.
So what prompted you to havethat genius idea in the state of
Texas?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Well, all the other clubs, they were doing these car
events, these car competitionsamong manufacturers, and I said
how can we distinguish ourselves?
Well, since Texas was thisenormous truck market.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, it still is yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I said let's do a truck competition.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So back then was it just trucks yeah, it was just
truck SUVs.
That was the beginning of theSUVs.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Beginning of the SUVs .
You remember what year that was?
The 94.
Well, it was 93 for the 94.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Right modern year.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And it was cool I mean, in this competition, what
we did.
We even had mud pits and we gotto do mud races in
manufacturers' car.
How fun it was.
A nightmare for the people whohad to clean the cars.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Clean the cars or the one who had to tow it out of
the mud.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, there was oil in the mud and all these rocks
and stuff.
They all chipped up, but it wasa lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
How bad Tadum, yeah, old ma'am.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
We also had Bob Bondarock this is a separate
thing.
Come out, you know.
It was Carol Shelby's friend.
I have a story about him too,and we had competitions between
the Detroit on the riders andthe Texas on the riders.
Oh my, gosh.
So it was fun and I've got agood Shelby Bondarock story.
(24:28):
But I had to clean it up alittle bit.
Well kind of yeah, kind of.
Well, shelby was telling meBondarock has a reputation for
liking women.
In fact I asked him in aninterview.
I said do you like racing orwomen?
Better?
He said women, hands down.
So that was his reputation.
(24:49):
So back he and Shelby wereracing in Mexico and Shelby
fixed him up with this localgirl.
And you know what Bondarock hadon his mind?
Yeah, so according to Shelby,bondarock was also very cheap
too, and so he went to pick upthis girl and when she opened
(25:14):
the door, her entire family wasthere, brother, sister and, of
course, no-transcript.
He ended up having to buy himdinner, oh Lord, yeah.
So he was disappointed.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, it was he.
I bet yeah, yeah, I can imaginehow fun.
What a great story.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah.
I was just thinking anotherShelby story.
He was telling me that back inI think it was 68, that
Chevrolet was going to marketthis King of the Road brand and
I think it was one of theirperformance cars, probably
Corvette.
And so he heard that he likedthe King of the Road so he sent
(25:58):
in his lawyers kind of overnightand stole that name from him
and got his copyright attorneyand everything.
He stole the King of the Roadname.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
For the KR, Corvette or Shelby.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, GT 500.
Kr.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
KR.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And so he was real proud of that, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I'm sure that it paid him well.
Yeah, it did.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He did OK.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But how true is the Shelby versus Ferrari story.
The movie.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I think a lot of it was true, and I mean I knew a
few of those characters.
I didn't know Ken Miles andthose guys.
So I actually learned a lotmyself.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But Bondurant was represented in the movie as well
.
Yeah, Bondurant was as one ofthe competitive drivers.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yes, he was represented in the movie and it
was really fun getting to knowthose guys, so I got to spend 30
minutes with ICOCA.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I want you to save that story Because I want you to
tell that story on the otherside of the break.
All right, we do a break oryour review.
We're going to do a break.
Ok, I've got to get out of thisand then we'll do the review
later.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We've got lots of time.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
We've got another hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yes sir, We've got a whole day.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Now that we finally got ourselves on the air, we got
another guest sitting overthere OK, so we got stuff OK.
Backing up, we're good.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, listen, I'd rather have it that way than
nothing.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
That's right, you've got a real guest, though.
Listen over here, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
No, you are the guest .
You're the man in the hot seatat the moment.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
anyway, yeah if you just pull that microphone up a
little bit better, you'd be somuch cooler.
So you get for creeping around.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, that's right.
When I saw you I thought, ah,there's our next guest.
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It's this much, hey.
Yeah, well, put the brakes onBecause I have to look at this
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