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November 11, 2025 55 mins
Introducing Zemrah's brand new Thanksgiving Song.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good evening and welcome to here tonight with Zimrah and Ed,
and of course we have our Pamela Wilkes here today
and I See You, which is a beautiful tune from
my Love as Possible City that we love. What we're
trying to do is push more of my original music
and it's going pretty pretty good. So later on we're

(00:25):
gonna share another one of my original pieces with you
that I'm sure you can share and we hope for
you to download for the holidays.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
So we're really excited about that.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
So ms Pam, We're not gonna tarry. We're just gonna
get in. You know, we've been doing so many things
right now. Ed is not here this evening. He is
just on cloud nine. Yesterday was his last day of work,
so he is a retiree for the second time, so

(00:56):
he is very very elated and very happy. And then
he is celebrating definite milestone, still got his swag on.
Struggling a little bit, but the brother's still fine and
still keeping it moving like I always say.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
He is celebrating Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
His eightieth birthday, and the actual birthday is the twentieth,
but we're celebrating at Saturday. He's got family coming in
from la from Cleveland, from Cincinnati, from Florida, so friends
and family. So we're very, very excited about that and
just wish him so much happiness continuing with me, and

(01:37):
just so so many good things to steal. Like I
told him today, I just feel there are so many
good things ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh yeah, and on the way.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
So what we decided to talk about a little bit
this evening is, you know, Thanksgiving is coming, and Thanksgiving
we're talking about gratitude and just family because that is
so very important. There's so many things going on in
the world. If we don't gravitate and graft to one another,
then what are we to do. It is for friends

(02:09):
and family, and that's something that is so urgent and
so important that we have to do because things that
we can change, those are the things we need to
focus on. The things we can't we have to pray
over and as I always say, just keep it moving.
So that's what we're going to talk about today, the
relationship and the great the gratitude of having family and

(02:30):
friends and sharing the things that we.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Are grateful for, right, I mean that we're really really grateful.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
For and sometimes you have to think about that because
life can get in the way.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
And it can't.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It does, and you're so involved in doing what you do. Yes,
you live in every day, You watch the news, you
taking care of your family. You just trying to do
more than survive. And so life can't get in the way,
and we can forget to be grateful, we forget to

(03:11):
be kind and loving, not only to others but to ourselves.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Because it can become overwhelming. And I know you relate
and you're not.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh, I tell you, because you know with with life
and and and that's the new thing that I say,
you're lifing because it's just an ongoing thing. And when
things happen to you in life. I have a poem
that that I should have brought that, but it says

(03:44):
when things happen, and so you things just happen. It
is nothing planned, and it can literally change your life.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes, brother with with with my brother and and and yeah,
you know we have people that are close to us,
and people make their transition every day and it doesn't
affect you until it affects you. Yes, you know, if

(04:21):
if you're not close to it, you don't get the.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Feeling of it.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
It does not affect you the same way you can
hear about someone a friend or another family member, but
until it actually then it makes a shift in your life.
And that she was a friend, and you know, it

(04:49):
goes back to being thankful and being grateful and being
I always like to put in their kind because you know,
so many, so many things are happening to people who
are amazingly wonderful people, and you're wondering what's going on
with that.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
You know, of course not, of course not. You can't.
You can't.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Again, when there's nothing that you can do about a situation,
you cannot, but the reality of it, you wonder.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I've got another poem about that wondering.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But I'm saying, when it hits you, when it hits
close to you, you have to figure out how to
maneuver your life. Yeah, you know, some days are okay
and then other days are and then you have to
go back to be thankful for the time that you had.

(05:48):
And we're talking about transitions because it's a part of
Life's nothing that we could do about it. But I
tell you, if you can just live your life in
a way that you can be as happy as you can.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
And you know, I talk about that all the time.
I really do. I talk about being happy.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Well, you know, they always say that you're supposed to
live your life like it's your last day.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, and we have no idea. We don't know. We
don't know the day. It's just there's only two days.
The day that you were born in the day that
you were dying.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Only God knows that if that's what you believe in God.
But the fact of the matter is you don't know
whether you believe it or not. You still don't know.
But I'm saying that, like you just said, you have
to live your life every day as wonderful as you can.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's why I always say, here's the life you know,
no matter how old you are, as long as you
can walk, talk and breathe, you got to keep it moving.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
And you have to remember sometimes That's what I'm saying.
You have to remember that, and then you have to
be there for other folks who who are in your life,
who's struggling with that.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, you know you have to.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
But one of the things we say, you know, as
far as you know, all the happiness and all and
keeping it happy with Thanksgiving coming and so it's always
a wonderful time of the year to find gratitude and
to share, uh, you know, with your family and friends,
like we just said, and to.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
You know, and to just embrace race that some people
don't have that.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I have a problem with the fact that we
don't talk about Thanksgiving enough.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
We don't and we go from and like right now,
they got everything out and I'm a Christmas child. I'm
two days after Christmas. So I love Christmas. But it's
like everything is right here. I mean before they this
is the first year that I've ever seen so much
Christmas stuff out before even Halloween, right, but they had

(07:50):
all combined together.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
It was having.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
They were talking about Christmas and Macy's when.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I heard It's like, I'm telling you, Halloween is not
here yet, Ronie. We're talking about Christmas. And so I
say that we need those.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Of us who recognize that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I always say that the responsibility is wherever it lies.
You have to talk about Thanksgiving. Yes, we talk about
Thanksgiving and what it means. We know originally where it
originated from America, the Native Americans and the settlers that

(08:30):
came here that stole this land from them. One of
the things that these individuals that come all all over
the everywhere they go, they steal and things like that.
All we know that, but we have transitioned into understanding
the full meaning of Thanksgiving. Yes, and that's what you

(08:52):
want to do. I can remember when we were kids
and we celebrated Thanksgiving and it was always wonderful time
in our home where Mom cooked and you know, food
was smelling good, and she would go shopping weeks in
advance for everything, and and we sat around the table.

(09:15):
I mean well, we set around the table and our
family we set around the table every night for dinner.
You know, six o'clock was the time that we had
to eat it. The boys wasn't in. They would get
in trouble for being late coming in from being outside
and all of that. But Thanksgiving was a wonderful time
of the year. And we had this beautiful wooden carving

(09:39):
knife that Dad used and we're going to use that
this Thanksgiving. My niece Rose is gonna have it. She
just bought a new home late latter part of last year.
It is absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm so proud.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
He was just so proud of Roads and the young
lady that she has grown up to be very responsible,
and so Mom is no longer cooking. I don't cook.
I don't even know how mom did what she did.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Back in the day. Oh yeah, well my mom had
me cutting cutting up the onions, salery. I had to
cut up the greens.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Now, when we were kids, you did that, Yeah, because
you wanted to be in the kitchen with my.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now it's easy because you know you can grab them
bags with the frozen onions.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
The frozen bag with the onions.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The green peppers and red peppers are than sweet that.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
The salaries it, oh, I love it, and it's all fresh.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It just comes in the frozen bag. But it works.
I mean it works if you work on a job
and all that. It is so convenient.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
But it's actually real onions, real celery and green all
of that. That's what you use and let it throw
out for your dressing and your.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Oh I don't do you that's too much. So pay them.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
But you cook, you're cook her.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
I do, but for things like that. Now, my sister cooks.
Pat cooks.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Now, we have Rose cooks. Now, we have my nieces.
They're doing the pies, and no one makes pies like mom.
So now they've they've been affecting that and and but
they're doing their best.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know, I can make a I can make a
really good sweet potato pie.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Well, I can tell you nobody makes a sweet potato pie. Look,
I'm like the man on DC.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Nobody makes a sweeping tatum pie like my mom and
the girls are really trying.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Really my mom did the main one too, though. Yeah
they cooked back then.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean my brother today, I said, everybody thinks
that their mom is the best cook.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
They do. And then when you get.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I remember you remember how Carlton he come to church.
Oh my god, Bishop, Bishop Carlton Piers, and may he
continue to rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
He used to make like.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Twelve to thirteen sweet potato pies, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And for those that ain't chitlin's.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
He told me that what how he did chitlings was
he would he would take the pot and do the
smoke meat, you know, the smoke turkey wings or turkey turkey.
Put the smoke turkey meat, you know what I'm saying.
Turkey tails, that's what it was, turkey tales. And he
would cook those down and then with that he would

(12:25):
put the chitlins the clean chitlings, everything in that. I
had never ever heard of that Carlton could cook. He was,
he was created. But those pies he would bring them and.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
He bragged about that.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But I had it. It was delicious. You never tasted
one other.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Most certainly did to his house and he cooked. But
he put what did he put? He put lemon in it? No, No,
he put different in it that most people don't put.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, vanilla flavor. You definitely put in sweet teata peppe.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You really don't make.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I make mean sweet potato. I made some sweet potatoes tdada.
You know we went to the store and got some
sweet pete. I made some sweet potatoes to day. Now
I did cook today.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I don't know. We had gone to the store when shopping.
I cooked today.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Now we're giving you some tips that you can use
for your Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Now, because you said, then use that nine, I'm gonna
tell you those green beans. I've never made green beans
in my life, really never, I never. And then what
you've done with them today, I've made them. And did
you see the pictures I saw? I said, oh my goodness,
they were good. This was my first cause.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
One thing you have to remember and everybody has to
understand that when cooking, it's all based on seasoning anyway.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's the best thing in the world. They don't, and
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, you know, a lot of times you have to
be careful because even when I'm cooking, Ed loves spice
in his greens.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So he says, the rock and.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
You add a little make it a little more spicy,
and that I say, baby, I will put you some
on the table, and you can do that, but you
still have to be mindful when you're serving other people.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You have to be mindful of sodium.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And you have to be mindful because he likes a
little casun seas because it can like I have.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Ed.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Oh, he helps me pick the greens and he is
awesome at that, and then I will wash them and
then he will do the chopping of them, and then
I go on and cook them, and then he'll say, now,
what other seasoning you're putting in there? But I tried
to be mindful because I don't like them real hotty.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, I'm talking about the green beans. Remember when we
were in the store.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I know, but that's still the green package. But doing
green beans is the same as doing greens when it
comes the seasoning.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh okay, yeah, we'll see there you go. This was
my first time making but I did a very good
So say what you put in it, they're very very good.
I put everything in it. I put first. First of all,
I had to scale it up, and I put it
in a skillet. I put the avocado oil a little
bit at the bottom, and then I cut.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now, why do you use avocado oil?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
I don't use.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
The canola or that's that clogs your arteries. That's not
good for you.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
And what makes you think that that avocado doesn't.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Avocado is good for your for your blood, and I
mean it's got a lot of things that that alvocado
is better for you. I've used that, Yes, I've used that.
I just don't use that corn corn corn. I don't
use that, but yeah, and for me, it tastes better.

(15:41):
I don't use I don't use butter, and I didn't
put any butter in it either. But I seasoned it
very well. And I have parsonally, I have cilantro, I
have pepperrika. Now those are my go to I'll use
that for almost everything. I put that in my eggs
and I do but chives, okay. And I even sprinkled

(16:03):
a little basil in it.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, basil is always good on the steward super So
this was like a soup.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
No, it was. It was It was just in the skillet,
wasn't It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
You hadn't put everything in yet? Yeah, okay, And and.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I just let it simmer, and I cut my potatoes up,
and I cut up a red pepper and I just
laid it on top, and.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
And I put it like very low under the and
it was very good.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I was, what did you put in it?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
But I put the season in in it?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, you put the seasoning in their baby, but you
didn't say what else you put in there? You put
the stream beans in there.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
And onions. I put the red pepper and I put potatoes.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
But but I didn't put it all in at the
same time. Yes, yes, And which is a good way
to cook?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, I think that's I think that's a nice way
to cook. Scream means if you for a turkey dinner.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Right, and you don't want your you don't want your
string beans to be too soft.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Now, I want to have a.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Little crunch to it, so not a lot, right, because
you want them to be done that. I also made
sweet potatoes, and my sweet potatoes very cood. Put him
in the oven, and then I made my rice. I
made some rice because Mom likes rice. She's into rice now,

(17:25):
and I made I had some protiserie chicken and I
cut it up and I you know, steamed it, so
it's like smothered chicken.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Now, okay, I did.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was up to six o'clock this morning and I
just couldn't get back to sleep, so I got up
and went downstairs in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, I'm sure everybody was very happy with that in
the household. That's a nice That was a nice meal.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, And we're talking about when he come home. He said,
this was I'm.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Because he'll come in and he'll have some chicken, or
he'll has some Chinese food when he comes in from
work and he comes late. But and I asked him today,
I said, are you glad that you're home?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Right in time to Thanksgiving? But he've been home for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
You know, I'm crazy, but you know.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Everybody comes in for you know, with everything going on,
though hopefully everything is straight by Thanksgiving, of course, and
it looks like it's it's going to be all right.
People can get yeah, where people can get get in
and you know, be able because at first, even for
the people who are coming in for it's party, it
looked like it might be a little shaky.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So we were a little afraid of that. But everybody
seemed like everything's flowing good.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
You have to keep on going because because things are
going to happen and you cannot you cannot allow what
you cannot control, control you, no, you cannot say.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
So you just have to go on. You got to
keep moving. You have to make your plans and know
that your plans are going to work out.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh absolutely, that's the only way you can.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Don't and just don't worry.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Sometimes it's very difficult to do that, but you have
to remember Johnny used to say that all the time.
One of the reasons that we find ourselves in certain
predicaments because we forget how wonderful we are.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know, now, you know one of the things that
and speaking about Thanksgiving and and well I'm gonna talk
a little bit about Turkey because a lot of times
people don't really know how to prepare turkey and so
what I do is you know a lot of times
with poetry though, and it's amazing. People don't think that

(19:37):
you're supposed They say that you're not supposed to even
wash chicken. You're not really supposed to wash your turkey,
because like even with that's one reason why Maria really
talks about some of the stories like jewels and all.
You know, when you get that chicken, they don't wash it.
Because she worked in the in the deli for Wow

(20:00):
where they cook the food, and she said she was
getting ready to wash the chicken. The chicken was coming
out of the box and everything and what they do
and she was getting wrong. They said no, no, no, no,
And she said what they said, No, we don't. We
don't wash it and you just just take it and
they just dump it and into the seasoned flour and
cook it. They say, because that cooks away the germs.

(20:23):
Any other way you are distributing.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh samanilla.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh yeah, so they don't they don't do that, because
well I washed my turkey. I washed and cleaned the
inside out real good. And then because I cut up
salery and uh do you know big chunks and I
do like onions and do like, you know, cut it
up like in forests. And I stuffed the cavity with

(20:52):
that and then the neck area with it. And then
I don't do dressing in my turkey. They say, they
really say you shouldn't do that. Who some of the
people they cook O the cook you know, some stuff
a turkey with uh dressing.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, So I do that, and then I melt butter
where I've seasoned it real good, and then I brush
up under the skin with it, and then I brush.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
All over the top and sides and and and just
just all over.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And then I put it in a cooking bag and
then put it in you know, if it's a big turkey,
and usually we have a big turkey, it can be a.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Lot to handle.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But then you know, and I put a little powder,
I mean powder, a little flour in the bag and
shake it up, clear the cooking bag and then put
it in there. It helps them put it in there,
and then I tie it, put it on, put it
in my roasting pan, and then uh, it's all set
to go the next morning because it's it's.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
And you know, some people put a little wine, you know,
red wine over their turkey.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh yeah, And let it, you know, and then all
the juices and everything, you know, just kind of marinate overnight.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Then you get up early in the next.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Morning put it in anohing oh, and then you have
a nice roasted turkey.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
I would hire somebody to cook. That's what we're going
to do.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
We're gonna have the young man that cooked their rolls
housewarming is going to cook.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Hers cook your turkey turkey. Now, that's what I was
trying to trying to wonder out. If they're cooking, and
this is something that I've asked around to kind of
find out because we've had that downe before, how do
they keep up with your turkey?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
How do they know that that's your turkey as opposed
if they're doing several other turkeys, how do they really
know that that might be your turkey?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I want to do they label on or how did
they go? I don't know. I'm saying, like you would
you say that?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
I don't like that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
So if you, if you, if you I'm giving him
my turkey, you're giving you.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Don't give him the turkey. He buys the turkey, you
tell him what kind you want. You wanted barbecue, you.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Want it wanted what the fried and the that's what
I really need. He'll do that. He buy it, he
buys it. You don't have to do anything but pay.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Oh, because I have someone that I have someone that
they take your turkey. I would prefer that too.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Oh yeah, you buy your own turkey and then they give.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
It and give it to them. And I've often wondered, well,
how do you know that that's your turkey?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Because when I've got my turkey back, I've questioned that, well,
how did I know that that's really my turkey?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
But they know what they're cooking. They know that they
cook it for you and then and then they.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
If they're cooking for several others, unless they're labeling it.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
If they have they only have one oven.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Some people no, sometimes if they got a big oven,
they dealing with that.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Because number one, they know what they're doing. They if
they have a big they know that they're gonna do
this here for you.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Now they're going to do that.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
But they have their way doing there. You go trying
to figure out what somebody else is doing. Let them
cook that food when they.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Because I don't feel like being bothered with cooking my own.
This year, I really know this.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
But when you know you had his food, he did
turkey tips.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
They were circuit taste.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yeah, we're going to have that.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Pat's gonna do the greens. I think Decca is going
to do the mac and cheese. We got different people
doing things. I am going to make the corn bread
because I do make good corn bread. And I'm going
to do a corn bread a sweet potato corn bread
because I.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Do that too.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So you're both too different, okay, And.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
And I used to do deviled eggs, but my sister
makes devil eggs better than I do. Right, you're gonna
make I said, no, I'm not making make so I'm
gonna get the eggs and take them over to it.
And she's gonna really we all like that. So we

(25:12):
have that for you know, allrves and stuff like that.
So and then uh, Devasha is going to.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Try moms sweet potato pies.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, that's Deca gonna do the sweet potato and roads
they could do now. They they're really good too. They
they're so so so close. But Decca Devasha is going
to do this is the other niece is going to
do German chocolate cake.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Whoa scratch? Yeah, well Mom, gave her her recipe.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Oh wow, now that's gonna be nice because everybody can't
make that's favorite.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Nom.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
You better make sure that we get a slice of that.
So tell yeah, save us so yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Well, well I don't know because you you look you
from a house. Everybody likes sweets that you sent send
over there.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And you see his retirement cake.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
That cake was gone in a day.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, y'all gonna tell Pat to put me up a slice? Well,
I'll call you need to put me put ups up that?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That is no.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I like my love.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I love pound cake, that's my favorite pound cake or
pineapple upside down cake.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But Ed love. We know you like chocolate, but Ed does.
That's his favorite, taking German chocolate.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
But then I've never seen you make him a German
chocolate cake, Zimra I have I can't, huh, I.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Don't know how to make no German chocolate.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
But I have ordered it for him, like I ordered
it last year for his birthday, which turned out not
to be very very good at all.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Remember it was like cutting a brick. I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
But no, okay, but you have to be careful because
everybody can't know everybody.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Now you know who can really really make a good
one is Brenda Thurston. She can bread pudding, German chocolate cake.
Oh my god, it is just phenomenal. But I absolutely
like pound cake. And Marie, you know, Marie Miles, she
makes the best pound cake in the world, in the

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very world.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love her pound cake. It's always moist.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
It's just so good.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You can get some strawberries and put over it for
because strawberry shortcake. I love strawberry shortcake. That's Pat's favorite.
To Pat Michkel, she loves strawberry shortcake.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
So on that note, we're.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Talking about all this good food and how to enjoy
Thanksgiving some.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Of the tips. We're gonna come back and talk a
little bit more about, maybe some more recipes and all.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Or no, let's talk about let's talk about the relationships
with your family.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
We are, but that's on the second part. Right now,
we're fixing to we are and on our break, we're
fixing to listen to my original with lyrics written by
us and my music by me, and listen at this
and share this with your family hotel platforms and download it.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
Autumn Leaves Fall from the Tree, No longer. Tauma's breathe.
The season's change. No Dena is finally.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
No demis Thanksgiving time of rapeful time of the yea.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Thanks diving day?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Est were thanks for another.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Thanksgiving Day is? It's the scene.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
We all give things, the time we all.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Each other Clay, it's Thanksgiving Thanksgiving joy is he.

Speaker 9 (29:38):
Tied to stay r like Bongia, but fly a.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
Thanks Giving Jay is here?

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Where thankful for another heat?

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Thanks seving ja. It's weird but time a Monday and
the trust things blown our lives.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
We go up, thanks staving times reading thanks Giving chime
is here, good book, good friends, a happy joy, thankful time, Hovu.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Thanks gaving, that's thankscusing. Thanks Diving time is here.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Let's say not.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
It's all so clean. We give God the things that way.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
And Thanksgiving Day he's here with the phone another year.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Thanksgiving Day is see.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Love days.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Thanksgiving Day is here, Sweet up gogain catcho.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
As you know, I am gonna fix that great thanks
Giving days.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
Thanksgiving days.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
Oh, we're gonna have a good time with them eating
all of that delicious food.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Thanksgiving Day now, how you like that?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Thanksgiving Day is here? That's an original. Uh, lyrics written
by Pam. I throwed in a few a few words,
but the melody was from me. And that's how we
how we collaborate, collaborate and make things happen.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
So what I hope that you will do.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
You can go on any platform Pandora, Apple Music, Spotify
and download that and share that for your Thanksgiving dinner
if you all well everyone, yeah, Thanksgiving Day, Yes.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Thanksgiving Eve.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Start out with Thanksgiving Eve and just go into Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Uh. It's really a cool song.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm really proud of that tunes and so we hope
that we hope that you enjoy it and take advantage
of it. We would love that. So what we want
to talk about now a little bit. We're going to
share a couple of other things about you know, cooking
and all. But but we had talked also about when
we talk about being grateful and thankful about family and

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talking about your relationships and how you navigate.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Times that's one thing about holidays. Things, feelings come up, things, disagreements,
you try to resolve it around the holidays, and a
lot of people that you've gone through things, but you
try to come together to make sense of things when
the holidays come, which is still a good thing because

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you want to come into the next year with resolve. Well,
if you've got something going on, let's let's resolve this,
put it behind us, and just keep things moving. And
that's what I always like to say. If you've got
a relationship that's not so good, find some kind of
way to make peace amongst yourselves. And sometimes it's it's hard.

(34:05):
It's something that has to be a holiday to come
up to make that happen. But one thing about it,
and you see it even in the movies and everything.
The holidays just brings about a sense of love and
happiness and gratitude, and especially with thanksgiving, find that.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Right and and find what you're define what you're thankful for.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, that's what we do. We go around the table
after dinner and say what all we're grateful for?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
And that you actually should really do that for children
when you have cares, Oh my god, yess thing about it.
But but you know, you want to think about what
are you thankful for? You know, and and have them
lists five things.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I know. We used to do.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
A little thing where we would write it, write it out,
and then we would put the paper around and everybody
would said it wouldn't be what you said, it'd be
with someone else said that they were thankful for.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
And it's just good to think about it. You know,
I'm good on thinking. You want to think about certain things.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
A lot of things happen to people because they don't
think that's right. Yeah, you know, so you want to
think about it. You want to make certain things a tradition.
And Thanksgiving time is a good time to make family
time a tradition.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Absolutely, that's something that we like, we say we grew
up on that and and that's something that that was well,
the holidays really was my mom's favorite time of the
year as well. You know, she was she was a
January baby. She was January eighteenth. My dad was February
two and he was such a wonderful man. So I'm
saying that you find that center of that peace where

(35:56):
and I always say, like we were talking about today,
when you when you're going through whatever, you always make
sure that you treat people the way you want to
be treated. And if you have disappointment, like always say,
to have a friend, you have to be a friend.
And a lot of times people don't really understand that,
but it all stems and comes from when you treat

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people like you want to be treated.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
You can't miss it, you just cannot.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Yeah, well, you know I always talk about the love.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
That neighbor as that self absolutely, and you cannot love
your neighbor if you don't love yourself. Right, So you
start that, how do you want to be treated? Yes,
then remember that when you're dealing with other people, that's right.
You know, you don't want anybody to hurt your feelings.
Try not to hurt someone else, that's right. You know,

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be mindful right of what you say, what you do.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
To each other.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And love is an action word.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
You say that you love someone, you have to show
that you don't have you don't be pretentious about it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
You have to really show people that you really care.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Not a lot of times you might not have a
lot of money, or you might not you know, sometimes
you might not even have a lot of time, but
you find time to do the things that you want
to do.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
So sometimes you have to find time to do maybe
some of the things that you.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Might have to do a little bit more sacrificing, because
that's when it shows that you're genuine and that you
really care, because as busy as everybody can be, you
have to find a little time to just text a note,
say I love you, I'm thinking about you, send an
emoji because now as far as it's so easy now
you can just say, man, let me just check on ourselves.

(37:42):
Woke up this morning, thank God, Stop right then and
there and just send a note and say I love you,
I was thinking about you, and just you gotta do that.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Know how that makes someone feel?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
That's right when you stop and you call them or
you send a text, because you know that feels not
someone have never done that for you? If you've never
received a text from your niece, your nephew, sister, brother,
a friend, if you've never received something like that, I'm

(38:19):
telling you right now you better check yourself.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Have you done it for someone else? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Sometimes we say, oh man, I was just thinking about them.
I was just thinking about Joe.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
But did you call Joe? Did you send Joe a
little note? A text?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Do you know what it will do to someone if
you sent them a little note thinking of you in
the mail in today's world, because texting and all that
is so relevant now, But do you know how someone
would feel if they receive something like that from you.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, try I say, try it. I say, try it
and see and you might love it.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
You send one to someone and watch how it is.
You said it a little earlier. If you want love, you,
if you are, you have to be a friend to love.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
You have to give love and give up.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
To give and receive is a principle, that's a law
to that. Yes, see, you give with love, you receive
with grace. And so if you I'm telling you, your
life would be so much better. And then when certain
things come at you, people come at you and and

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and their negative, you have something to bombard that with.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
When you are full of love.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm telling you you, just if does make all the
difference in the world.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Because one thing that my mother always said, what comes
from the heart goes to the heart.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
And I believe that with my soul. I really do.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah. And you have to practice.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's another thing that Jenny said, y'all hear me say
talk about Johnny all the.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Time, because it's true.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Donnie Coleman, she said, practice the principles, and life give
you so many opportunities to practice.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It does something that we go through all the struggles
and everything that we encounter because everybody, you know, all
it might look green, but it doesn't have to always
be green. You know, some people know how to kind
of dress that up where it doesn't you know, it
doesn't show. But you don't know a lot of times
what people are going through. And so you have to,
you know, you have to counter that. I always think about,

(40:45):
you know, Dolly and Larry, you know, being being a
part of our group. And I can see why Dolly
was named Dolly because she's a Nott dial. She's just
she's just so I mean, she is just And that's
why I her, why we click so much, because she's
so loving and so giving and so sharing genuine that
she's genuine, I mean, and it just makes That's why

(41:08):
I say, what comes from the heart goes to the heart,
and you can identify that when you know that it's
genuine and it's real.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Will you watch the people in your in your circle?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yes, And I ain't nobody the gang, the gang?

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Is it? You watch?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
You watch the people that you are drawn to that
are drawn to you. Yes, And and you pay attention
to what they say, what they do, and how they think. Yes,
and you'll find the similarities and it's all about spirit.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
We could talk about that that always Spirit knows everything
I have I have. It's just like I always like
to say this about Diane, Uh. I mean we go
way way way back. I don't talk to her that much.
I don't see her that much, but when we talk,
we just like catch up. It's like we were just

(42:00):
talking yesterday. Same thing with Aurrah Aros and Arizona, who
I miss so much and I just wish she was
here because she's like my mama half the time. But
I mean, when we talk, it's like we just picked
right up from where we left off at. It's just
so wonderful and so and so embracing. When you have

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people like that in your lives, that you know that
know you have your back and whatever you're going through,
it's almost like they can feel it, you know, so
they just know. It just makes all the difference in
the world.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Pay attention to that.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Attention I do, because if you don't have friends like that,
I have a friend like that. To the girls that
I went to Jones Commercials, right, we used to sit
at the at the lunch room table at Jones and
we were uh, and our junior and our senior year,
and we are friends today.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Like you say, you all go out to lunch and.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
All have your lunch, goes together. We do things together.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
And we don't see each other all the time, you know,
we we we may go years without talking, but the
minute we get together.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's like yesterday. But you know what they say, that's
when it's genuine. Yeah, yeah, that's when it's genuine. Can
you just can't beat there?

Speaker 5 (43:18):
Who is that that Stephanie? That's my girl? Yes?

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Yes, oh yeah, Norma.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
And we've lost a couple of our our girls that
that was at the table. One one friend of ours,
Deborah Jenny's. We don't know where Deborah is and we
all get together. We're surprised she's not on Facebook. One
of our girlfriends passed away several years ago, Sandra Fountain.
But you know, to have friends that have been in

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your life for fifty plus years, that's an amazing one.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Friend been friends and we don't talk off either. But
we've been in since kindergarten.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Oh wow, so how many years is that?

Speaker 7 (44:03):
Eighty?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
But yeah, right, no is the one that's kicking eighty.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
But but yeah, I mean, I mean it is when
you when you when you have friends like that, it's just, uh,
it's a beautiful thing. And that's why we say that
you take this time a year that if you're thinking
about someone and you and you're thinking about them, often,
don't hesitate to reach out and just say I love you,
I'm thinking about you.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I woke up this morning thinking about you and just just.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Say hey, just wanted to say hey. And you don't
know what that would have done for their day, for
their day, I mean, And.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
You can do that with your nieces and nephews.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Now I do that with my nieces and nephews if
I haven't heard from them in a while, because you know,
they're busy. And that's one reason I spent a lot
of time with with my nieces when they were young,
when they were babies and growing up. And but by
the time they went to high school or you know,
turn thirteen or fourteen years old.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
They don't have time for me.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
They're doing their own things.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I got that time, you know, yes, And I tell
you I am such a sensitive person when I hear
my nieces and nephews say to me, Auntie, Pam.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Oh my god, well be in the stores. We be
in the store something, and we meet somebody and they
resignate to Pam. Pam say, now next time I see you,
call me Auntie. It's a restaurant and create Creed and
they advertised in our book. And so it's a young
man in there. We went in there to eat one day.

(45:35):
He took the Pam. I've gone in there without Pam,
and he wants to know where's Auntie Pam.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So Pam establishes that she.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Really really does gravitate the young people. And that's a
beautiful thing because it's like you tend to really teach them,
and any young person that does not understand that about you,
that you're a teaching person and that you love young
people and that you want nothing but the best for them.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
That is so.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I mean, my daughter has adopted or she adopted Maria granddaughter,
my great grand baby Jasmine, and yeah, and then now
Dolly great yea. So it's just a beautiful thing when

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you have that in your life.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But again it's like I say, but here's the life,
no complaints and no regrets. All you give is all
you get, So give it all God. And when you
give it all you got, you can't help but receive it.
That's what such the blessing of it is.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
But I like that.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
No regrets, you, my God, no regrets. How do you
do that? How do you live? I don't regret anything.
I've had.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Some things happened to me and my life. You know
that I've done or that has been done to me,
But I kids do not. I do not live in
regret now because if you think about it, everything happened,
and this is what I believe. Everything happens as it should, absolutely,
and it's all good. We have to find the good,

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absolutely because God is all good.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Yes, that's what I believe. But that keeps me going right.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But all the things that we've gone through, and you
don't have any regrets, that's who we are today because
of what we went through.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
That's that's who That's who's who we are today. And
that's what's so powerful about it.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
A lot of times people don't understand, Man, why am
I going through all of this, all of these challenges
and I'm down and out and I'm going through this
and I'm going through that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
But look at you today.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Like I was telling my son in law that the
other day he was he was have a pity party
about you know death and his life. And I after
we just like ED stopped and told him, we have
no control over life and death. But if you've had
family or who's ever gone through they're old and they've
gone through they're going through cancer, whatever. And he was

(48:18):
talking about how he grew up and the things that
he went through and the way he lived and all
of that. ED told him, but you just don't know
what I what I went through. You know, I went
through a lot. But I looked at him and I said,
but look at you today. You know, I told my
son in law, beautiful home in Maryville, Indiana, look at

(48:39):
you today.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
So you don't live in the past and the things.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Because if you want to look at something, we all
have gone through something in life. But if you don't
look at the things that God has blessed you with
today and who you are today, then you don't have
the grips on life. You don't understand. That's why I say,
do what every day is you want to do in life.
Live your dreams and live them to the fullest. Don't

(49:04):
say I'm too old to do ask that theever.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Because you're never too old. Because I say, and I
say it with conviction.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
As long as you can walk, talk, and breathe, you
keep it moving and do the things that you want
to do.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I am preparing.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I don't even know how, but I'm gonna do my
Nancy Wilson Tour this coming year twenty six. I'm gonna
go to something. I got it on the back of
my ad book, on the back of my book, and
that's gonna make me accountable to do that.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna have my first
one word.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
That's why it's out there, is out in the I'm
gonna do my.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
First show and that's gonna be my Thanksgiving show that
you said we need to have. That's gonna be my
tribute to Nancy here in Chicago, and then from there
with the spring and stuff coming, I'm going to some
other cities. I'm gonna make it happen.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You have to go read on and not use life
of what all this stuff that's going on in the
world today. I ain't got nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I'm gonna keep it moving and do what it is
that I want to do, and I gotta find a
way to do it financially. It will and I know
it will, and you just have to just keep it
going out and put it out there. So don't use excuses,
go on and live life and be happy. This is
the time right now. We're coming into a new year,

(50:26):
which is coming fast, but this is the time that
we have to go on to make things happen, because
the bottom line is, and the reality of it is,
as you as you get older, you can't say that
you're getting younger. You have to just go on and
keep doing what you're doing, keep your health up. And
we're gonna talk about that in the new year too,
making sure that you keep your health going. We're gonna

(50:49):
talk about some things coming into the new year that
will be good. Matter of fact, we're gonna I'm gonna
have the sister on that does the exercise at home
for Gene's friend. Oh oh my god, I want to say.

(51:09):
And she's so tangy, tangy, beautiful sister, and she does
extuy does.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Health and wellness, and so we're going to bring her
on to talk about.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
There's a lot that we talk about with self care. Yeah,
that's that's very important. I have things that's coming out.
I'm I'm definitely gonna.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
We're going to make sure you do that.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I'm doing my book tour.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I'm going to do it. I'm finishing that up. I've
got several books. I was going to come out with
The Black Woman, The Jewel of Humanity. I was going
to do that first, but then I, you know, go
on what I'm no. I love Most and that's my
book of poems with only love words. Yeah, book of poems, Yes,

(51:51):
lovers every and your prayers.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I mean, you're phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
It's time.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, So next year, twenty twenty six, just look for
things to happen. I've got a couple of business ventures
that I'm working on that are a good. You know,
a lot of people talking about this AI thing and
they're so afraid of and everything. I say, don't fear
anything or anyone, embrace it.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Just just go with it.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
And so fearing AI, you better figure it out. You
better figure it out.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
So I'm gonna be talking about that, and so you know,
follow me on Facebook and Instagram because there's a lot
of things that's coming.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
In, a lot of coming up.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
We have health and wellness.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
We've got another thing coming out about the sales rejuvenation,
and we want to be healthy.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So we can do the things along with the wealth.
Health and wealth go together. And right about now, would
you believe it? The time is up. But we've well,
we've got a lot of stuff in tonight and we
are so happy.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
We're gonna play our Thanksgiving and our evening with our
Thanksgiving song again. Go and download it on Spotify, pandor
and anything that's on streaming Thanksgiving Day by Zima, and
go to my website make some comments. I Amzimra dot

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com and Pama is always you have to come and
finish out of course the year with us. We always
love you because of your spirit, you're always up. Everybody
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