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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, well, well, well, well, well, welcome back Talking Smith.
You're legend himself Intellectual Radio, the bigger, the baddest black
on podcast station, not just in the nation, but in
the world.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I want to thank you all for joining me again.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
How y'all doing out there today, How y'all doing this?
It's been a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I just got off a plane a couple of days
ago out the country, just flew back in and I'm
gonna talk about that a little bit later. You know,
I was in a foreign land with a foreign man
and seeing how they roll over there, and it was
it was a good thing over in like Dubai and
Abou Dobby, you know, the stuff you just hear about
on TV. I just heard about on TV Dudbai and

(00:54):
Abu Dobby. So you gotta say ad with a you know,
with a with a different tang.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We just can't.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Say our Boo Dobby is where I was at. So
it's good to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I was a little concerned about the flight control centers,
you know, didn't know if they would still be there
when I when I got back off, I would be
stuck in Dubat and ah boo Dobby, but we managed
to make it back in with our incidents, so we
thank God for that blessing. So what's going on? What's
going on? You know, just give you a few things

(01:26):
as you know, hot hot topics, you know, current events.
You know, what's what's been going on. You know I
was got back and ice was steel not nice. You know,
ice was steel breaking windows, shattering, glass hopping out on people.
So you know, I was you know, I was wondering
about that. It's funny because I got me and one
of my friends had a discussion and he was talking
about the strain with all of the immigrants h here

(01:50):
on the infrastructure of Chicago. He works for, uh, the
City of Chicago, and he was talking about the strain
of it and and how the immigration of it all,
which is taking a toll on the finances that Chicago had.
And I was explaining to him that may be true,
the system, the infrastructure may be strained with the citizens,

(02:14):
but remember it was the same government that shipped all
of the people here, you know, from the different Texas states.
You know, that was a good idea. Then now all
of a sudden they want to come and lock them up,
and it's not about when it comes to money. The
money starts from the top, it trickles down. So it's
not that the money is not available. It's not like
America is one of the wealthiest countries in the land.

(02:36):
It's not like we can't afford to absorb any type
of thing. It's just they just don't want to. And
it's funny that we get all this ice stuff going
on when it's about to be Thanksgiving. Ain't that what
the Mayflower was all about? Then the pilgrims come to
get a better land, more space, a better way of living,

(02:56):
and I don't recall the Native Americans shooting and arrows
and keeping them from coming and whisking them out. Is
just interesting that it's Thanksgiving the same hand of love, grason,
and mercy that was extended by the Native Americans. You know,
we can't extend to others. And even if they aren't here,

(03:17):
you know, legally, as we like to say, it's a
whole lot of people who aren't here legally, you know,
we're not doing using the same aggressive modes to go
after them. And with all of the money, it's just
the thought that I had the other day, with all
of the money that we've put into that the country
has put into the ice agents, the ice uniforms, the

(03:37):
ice mask, the ice vehicles, the ice firearms and gear,
the pay that they have to receive, the overtime that
they've getting. How come we just couldn't set up or
revamp the infrastructure and say, hey, you all remember what
we did too when they were converting over to the
real ID. Hey, you got a year to get your

(03:59):
real idea. Hey, hey, this is what's up. If you
are here illegally, we have revamped the system. You got
a year to get here and get your paperwork straight
so that you can have your citizen We could have
put these millions of dollars into just revamping the infrastructure
of how these citizens can get their citizenship done. Uh,

(04:21):
And it would be much peaceful, it would be uh,
the result that everybody wants would be there. But you know,
if it's if if they if they if we have
an issue with their citizenship rights, which is which is
totally understandable, you know, you know, and if they have
no civil rights. You know, I thought the other day,

(04:42):
don't you still have human rights? Don't everybody? Isn't everybody
entitled to human rights? And to be treated fairly, to
be treated justly, to be treated with some type of
concern and care for their lives. You know, we have
administrations just blowing up ships in the water, and they
really have no clue of what's on. Don't people get

(05:03):
their human rights to be heard, to be you know,
just alive in the world without somebody just declaring that
you're not worthy to live and really don't even have
the justification or the evidence for ending your your life.
It was just a thought, you know, these just thoughts
that Will Smith be having when I'm driving down the street,

(05:24):
cooling on a corner on a hot summer's day. You know,
then then I looked up and stephen A was getting
in trouble.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Stephen A. Smith, esp N hosts. You know, he was
getting in trouble.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, he was attacking you know, Jasmine Krocking, and
you know, you know, back when I was coming up,
you know, stephen A blowing up like Bubba Young, bubble Gum.
You know ESPN multiple shows, he on talk radio, Mad
Dog Sports. You know, he got he got his own
straight Shooter. You know, he did his book, got his
book out.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You know, he does Channel seven of Sports with the NBA.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know, he's blowing up, and and sometimes I was thinking,
sometimes you can just talk too much. Sometimes you're just
talking too much, so much you ain't really got nothing
to say. You ain't had a chance to kind of
research or really dig deep into this thought that you're
about to give on the humongous platform that you had.

(06:18):
And so when Stephen they was getting in trouble for
attacking one of the sisters and politics and how she
talks and her dialect and tone towards the administration, you know,
after he had never talked about how the administration caused
people names, calls people dumb, has talked about people's mom,

(06:39):
has talked about people's hands, have talked about people's have
made fun of mimic people with disabilities, and I mean
never said a word about them doing what they do.
And the one time he decides to last ye out
at somebody, it's to a sister who fight in a

(07:00):
good fight, who's just trying to make sure that there's
a voice for the voiceless man. That seemed kind of
odd to me, because then it took me back to.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Remember when.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Vice President Harris was running for president. It was a
group of brothers, you know, like Black Men United or something.
I think that's like a singing group that might have been.
That might not have been their name for real. But
they came in and they was like, hey, well what
about us? You know, if you want our vote Vice
President Harris for the presidency, you know, like, what about us?
So these black men say, hey, what about us? Which

(07:35):
is a legitimate question. But they didn't ask the question
to Biden. They didn't ask the question to Trump. They
didn't ask a question to Clinton.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
But when the sister is running to be the president,
they get this platform in and y'all saw how all
the media.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Cameras jumped up all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
They don't never go to the educated black men any
other time. But the time that they asked her a
question about what's in it for us? They the media
made it seem like it was a confrontational type of
a thing. And so but we never asked these the
Black Men United never came up and asked everybody else

(08:13):
what you're gonna do for us? So while we wait
for the sister who's trying to get the highest office,
instead of just picking you know, just what most people
do is they pick a candidate, they see what they're about,
they see which one is more likely to go with
them on their point of views, and then they back
that candidate and they support that candidate, and they developed

(08:33):
credibility with that candidate, so that when you do say, hey,
now that you won, hey can we look into this?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Can we look into that? You know?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And they're they're appreciative of the support that.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
You gave and and and they sit around the table
and things get done on your behalf.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's what is usually like. And then that took me
to a whole nother thought.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know, it took me back to Obama and the
conversations that I've had with with some brothers and and uh,
and it's usually brothers, And that's what made me think,
you know, brothers, Obama didn't do nothing for the black man.
And I never heard, like, no sisters, I never heard.
I ain't saying what you never heard. I'm just saying, well,
I never heard. I never heard no sisters say Obama
never did nothing for other black men. And so when

(09:15):
I look at the violence that we have and how
we are sometimes our worst enemy and we attack one
another black man black man, we just have to be
more conscious of supporting each other because when the tide rises,
you know, all ships rise, and when one of us
come up, we all come up. And so I just wanted,

(09:38):
you know, to put that thought out there. I ain't
saying I'm right, I ain't saying I'm wrong. I'm just
saying think about it. But you know, the real topic,
you know, that I want to talk about for a
few minutes has to do you know what this show
is all about. But and we did a show not

(10:03):
too long ago on mental health for men matters. Flipped
through the rolodex of my shows, and not too long
ago there was a show that says, mental health for
men matters, y'all, it matters, and you all know I
am an advit Dallas cowboy fan. I'm in, I'm I'm
My flag is at more than half staff because we

(10:25):
lost at home while I was in Abu Dhabi. We
lost at home to the Cardinals who didn't even how
they starting quarterback and the team ain't even good and
we lost to them. But you are The first Dallas
score was by a young man. That is that has

(10:48):
inspired my conversation for today, and that takes me back
to why mental health for men matters. Not only did
the Cowboys lose the game, you all, but their their
their player uh Uh. Marshan Neelan a few days later
committed suicide.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
And then here's a man had it, who's been pursuing
his dream. Here's a man that's planning for America's team.
Here's a man where money is not not a problem.
He's he's getting paid. But because of the the traumas
of life and the drama in life, and you know
what they say, life just keeps lifing.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
He found that the only way to.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Cope with it was to kill himself. Mental health for men,
it matters.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And so.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I want to talk this time because this is an
apropos time when I thought about it because as a
licensed clinical therapist, when it comes to depression, suicide, uh,
people's mood being down and out, it's about this time
of year. It just falls in line about this time

(12:05):
of year when everybody's being thankful, when the Christmas celebration
is there, when things are about family, about friends, about love.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know, this is the time where.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Emotions of sadness and grief kind of can be real
high for a lot of a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
And so this is usually about the time I do my.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Grief workshops for different entities, and so I don't have
the time to go into a full workshop.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Today.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
But you all know that this this show is sponsored
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(13:01):
zero five nine five six'. Nine and we do accept
insurances and cash is always. King BUT i want to
talk a little bit about grief because WHEN i dug
a little bit deeper into Our marshan kneeling and what
was going, on come to find out, that you, know

(13:22):
he was drafted by The cowboys this, year but right
before he got, drafted his mom passed. Unexpectedly and so
here's a young man who's in the height of his.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Career here's a young.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Man everything is going as planned one in a, million you,
know no injuries. Occurred every he was good enough with
all the people that played the position that he plays.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
For he was spotted by.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Scouts people picked him apart and thought he was good
enough to play in THE. Nfl he was actually playing
in THE. Nfl remember on that game against The cardinals
when a pump was, Blocked he's the one who scooped
up the ball and scored the first touchdown for The
cowboys in that. Game amidst the, celebrations the chest, bumps

(14:11):
the high, FIVES a few days, later he's on the
run from. POLICE a few days, later his girlfriend is
calling and, saying, hey we don't know what's going on with.
Him we know he has a weapon and he is.
Suicidal he was talking about not wanting to live a
Few just a few days, later you, know he's found
with a bullet, wound a fatal bullet wound to his.

(14:34):
Head SO i want to talk to everyone a little
bit about this thing called.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Grief what is?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Grief it's an evoking keen sense of, sadness extreme, anxiety
sorrow and. Pain and you can be grief stricken by
a lot of. Things and what happens, is you, know
sometimes we if you've never dealt with, it you, Know
i've always, wondered like when my grandmother when she was,

(15:00):
alive and, UH i used to.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Watch her deal with the grief of family.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
MEMBERS i used to watch it deal with the grief of,
friends passing and how she coped with, it and she
always seemed to be, cool you, know she always she
never seems to be falling apart in. It and now
That i'm, older you, KNOW i guess that the more
you deal with, it the more.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You find ways to cope with.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
It AND i guess she had just found ways to
cope with it as time goes. On but you, can
you can be grief, stricken you, know not just from,
death you know about this time of. Year you, know
people can be grief stricken for a lot of, reasons you,
know so so material, possessions like physical. Possessions maybe you

(15:46):
lost your, home you, know maybe you lost, relationships maybe
you just got, divorced maybe you just broke up with. Somebody,
uh maybe you just had to relocate and you. Live
these are all signs of, grief you, know things that
people grieve. Over, maybe you, know when we talk about you,
know not still knowing your purpose at this, time or

(16:08):
not knowing your your, dreams or something that happened that
you dreamed about doing you find out that you can't do.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Anymore you, know you, know.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Your, loss your loss of, yourself loss of your, identity
loss of your, purpose loss of your. Dreams these are
all types of, things you, know that people can grieve.
Over so it's not just about. Death you know that
people at this time of the year have an issue
with and so you, know so when we talk about
all the things that cause people, grief it could be

(16:37):
like loss of. Safety maybe somebody's being, assaulted maybe you, know,
robbery maybe you're, homeless or maybe because you, Know congress
can't get themselves together And congress can't figure out a
way to keep the country, running that you don't you're
trying to figure out how to feed your family because
your check is not coming in or maybe you will

(16:59):
relying on snap benefits uh to come in BECAUSE i
was watching uh and your snap is not coming in
and so now you you're trying to figure out how
to feed your family at this. Time and let me let,
me let me dispel this one. Myth you, know BECAUSE
i heard this this white politician and that's it was.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
WHITE i just got to say what it.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Is he said that these snap, benefits, uh are you,
know these these people in these these these urban areas you,
know you, know and they can they, can especially these
men who can.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Work that's what he.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Said AND i was like taken back that nobody this
is one of the politicians In congress feeling THAT snap
benefits are for uh minorities in urban, areas especially, men black,
men taking advantage of uh uh governmental money when they
are perfectly able to, work which is one of the

(17:55):
biggest lies that has ever been. Told you, Know, obamacare
The Hordable Healthcare, act they are More republicans on. That
there are more people that are not of color on
that than there are people of Color snap. Benefits sixty
four percent of the people who GET snap benefits are
from rural. Areas they're not from the the urban. Areas

(18:17):
it's rural areas that benefit from THESE snap. Benefits And
i'm gonna take it.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Further the people the biggest percentages of people ON snap
benefits are seniors and people with. Disabilities these are people
who can't work like they used to. Work so it's
not about being lady. Lazy it's about helping those who
can't help. Themselves so that's just Something i'm throwing in for.
Free i'm sorry it got, distracted but we're talking about loss.

(18:47):
Again this is talking. Cool your Host Will smith we
On Intellectual Radio dot com thank you for joining in.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Again.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Loss we're talking about the different types of loss and
are left off on. Safety you, know you can lose
your safety from different, Things different things. Happen if you
assaulted physical emotional feelings of being. Unsafe, uh maybe you
lose your. Role maybe you are retired, now or maybe

(19:16):
your your kids are aging and and.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
They have moved the.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Way and now your role as a mother or a,
father you, know is just. Changing AND i already spoke about.
Divorces so now your your role as as being a.
Spoused you have to try to figure out your way
uh in this world as a single person and as
a single.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Entity so you can also lose your.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Health you can have a, stroke you can have some mental,
problems you can lose some of your physical. Abilities you,
know these are all types of things losses that people grieve.
From so real, Quick i'm gonna take you through what's
called the stages of.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Grief and so this is for.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
People AND i really like to talk duties work, shops
especially with my individuals who are just as. Involved because you,
know when you when you come from certain communities And
i'm from one of those, communities we deal with. Death
so much that we kind of are like the frog
that's in the. Pot you, know you you you throw

(20:17):
a frog in a hot pot of, water it hops right.
Out but if you put a frog in look warm
water and it sits there and you gradually turn up the,
heat that frog will stay in that water until it
burns and boils to. Death so we deal with death
so much in our community that we kind of get
so used to it and numb to. It and then every,

(20:38):
time then every now and then when it, happens especially
as we get older and we try to we start
to maybe value life a little bit, more it throws
us for a.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Loop SO i like.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
To educate people on the stages of grief and how
this grief things work and so that you can deal
with it and hopefully make it through it a little bit.
Better so if we talk about the seven state ages of,
grief the first stage and that they don't have to
come in any certain, order they don't really come in
any specific, Order So i'm.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Just giving them to you real.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Quick, shock, denial, anger, bargaining, Depression then it's this testing,
thing and then finally there's this thing called. Acceptance so,
shock we get that everybody you shocked that it. Happened
you don't believe. It somebody call. YOU i remember when

(21:29):
my best friend at, Fourteen, tyrone was shot And Jeffrey
minor got a call real early in the. MORNING i
remember it like it was. Yesterday yvonne called. Me she was, Like,
hey did you hear what happened To?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Tie? Now what you mean what happened To?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Tie you, know we were just together yesterday hooping AND
i was giving them an l and we used to
have in television we didn't, have you, know these new,
games PlayStations and stuff like. THAT i was whooping them
on television in television video. Game and then she told
me about him being. Shot couldn't believe. IT i hung

(22:01):
up the. PHONE i was waiting for a call back
to for somebody tell me it was a, Joke it
was a mistaken. Identity, uh, denial trying to avoid the.
Inevitable we we kind of know what denial. Is you,
Know i'm refusing to believe. It i'm not gonna believe. It.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Anger, anger we got. That we, angry especially depending on
how it, happened you.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Know, uh this is, where especially if we're dealing with the,
streets you, know they could be.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Retaliation you, know remember in a movie.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
With The Boys boys in The, hood when When ricky
got shot And Ice cube And Dope boy uh and all. Them,
uh they got in the car and they was gonna
go track the killers down because they was.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Angry it was retaliation.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Time you, know somebody was gonna two, wrongs was gonna
make it all, right you know in their. Mind uh and,
so But tray was, like let me out the. Car uh,
though let me out the. Car it's one of my favorite.
Movies to and. So but they were, angry and so
anger is part of, this this grief stages and it's
actually you, know. Normal we don't want to go out
and shoot. People we don't want to, retaliate but understanding

(23:05):
that the emotions are.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Okay if you become, angry this's.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Okay and then it's this thing called bargaining where we try,
to you, know come up with ways to uh unrealistic
ways uh to to get out of the, pain to
deal with the. Emotions and this is. Uh MAYBE i
might just have a few drinks And i'm a feel.
Better take a few more puffs And i'm feel. Better

(23:30):
Maybe i'll do this And i'll feel. Better some people are, like, Hey,
god if you bless you, know if you can like
raise him from the dead, almost you, KNOW i Promise
i'll start going to church every. Day this is that
part of that denial and then that bargaining, thing and
then then it's the, depression and that depression part this
is the part that we have to understand, that you,

(23:52):
know dealing with the depression not maybe not wanting to
get out of, bed maybe not feeling like going to,
work maybe like crying and shedding tear is more than one,
day more than one. Hour this is important for gods
because we already not comfortable for dealing with emotions. Period
our favorite, emotion the easiest emotion for us to deal
with is. Anger so when it's anything other than, anger

(24:15):
this feeling, sad this feeling, emotional this being all in my,
feelings we have a hard time dealing with. That and
if we don't just accept it for what it, is
it can throw us for a.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Loop and then.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's this thing called testing where we seek realistic. Solutions
maybe we start talking to people about how we really.
Feel maybe we listen to some music to let us
get our emotions. Out maybe we find ways to salute
the life and deal with the. Life but the most

(24:49):
important part is, acceptance finally finding the way, forward accepting the,
grief the, event the law for what it, is accepting it.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
And it comes all in.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Time and there's so many different types of griefs that
we can go. Into but one THING i want you
all to know is that people don't move on from.
Grief you just people don't move on from. Grief we
just move. Forward and it's a different you, know grief
is it's gonna always be. There you, know the depth
of a loved one will always be. There that person

(25:29):
will be on your. Mind but we kind of just
move forward step by, step start to get, better step by.
Step maybe get out the bed a little, earlier step by,
step maybe start to go back to. Work step by.
Step you, know our appetite comes back step by. Step
we start doing some things that are joyful to A
step by step we start to move. Forward but we

(25:52):
don't just move on like it never. Happened we just move,
forward step by. Step and it's not about the death
that we grieve.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It it's the.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Loss it's whatever that person meant to you that you
are not getting. Anymore it is the loss of that
we a. Grieving and this is one THING i want
to tell people. Too there's no right or wrong way to.
Grieve there's no weak or strong way to. GRIEVE i
REMEMBER i talked to people OR i did work with
families all the time when they lose a loved, one

(26:23):
and they'll, say you know how they?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Doing? Oh, man, man they, Strong they're Doing. OKAY i
ain't seeing them cry.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yet as a, Therapist i'm, like, HEY i don't know
if that means, anything BECAUSE i always say WHEN i,
DIE i expect my kids to be falling a.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
PART i expect them to be down and.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Out if they show up and you see them all
the time and they are emotional.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Lists, MAN i don't work three. JOBS i don't pay
for these.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
BRACES i done been up until five o'clock in the
morning putting up their, houses putting bikes. Together you, know you,
KNOW i done drove all over the country to get
these kids to. College, uh somebody better be. CRYING i
don't want to see no emotional. Listsiness you, know somebody
better be crying trying to figure out what they're gonna
do with our pops. Around no, MORE i want it

(27:12):
all Or i'm coming back to hunt.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Them that's WHAT i told. Them you, KNOW i want it.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
All and so you, know so if people are, crying
if people are, emotional that's part of the grieving. Process
if they've been crying for every day for two, weeks that's.
Okay maybe you never had somebody that means as much
to you as the loss that they grieve it means to.
Them but we can't put them down because they are

(27:38):
grieving and they are doing what they.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Do.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Now there's some healthy and unhealthy things that you, KNOW
i can talk about, later but there are some healthy
things and some unhealthy. Things so some some symptoms just
so you'll. Know you can be, fatigued you cannot, sleep
you might lose your. Appetite you might be on any
emotional roller. Coaster your body might start hurting. THEM i
have digestive. Issues you might not be able to think,

(28:03):
straight lack of motivation of your chest might be, hurting
just issues all. Around everything can happen when you're going through.
It when life be life and and you lose somebody
and we can't control, it, man everything can be going.
On and so this is just for informational so that

(28:26):
you know that you can still get through. It it
don't mean you about the. End it just means that
these are some of the symptoms that. Happen this is
how your, mind your, body and your soul sometimes deal
with death and.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
With the loss of things that.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Happen AND i always, say If jesus, wept If jesus, wept,
MAN i THINK i can, cry you know as. WELL
i THINK i can cry every now and then as.
Well and, so you, know continue to work through because some,
things WHEN i call these, multipliers these are things that
if you if you weren't able to work out the

(29:01):
relationship with the person that you, lost sometimes it increases. It,
uh if you have some unfinished. Business maybe maybe it
was your fiance and y'all's about to Get, man that's
that's a bit unfinished. Business uh maybe it was, unexpected you,
know maybe it was a suicide thing and you felt, guilty, like,
hey what what DIDN'T i?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Do how COME i didn't see the? Signs why couldn't
they come to? Me?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
All you, know things like this are WHAT i call
multipliers that can make you.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Feel a little bit worse as things go.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
On and so understanding how this mourning and it's grief takes,
place and it's it's really important because there's a saying
By Vicki.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Harrison she, said grief is like the.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Ocean it comes in, waves uh at the ebbs and.
Flows sometimes the water is, calm sometimes the water is, overwhelming,
says but all we can do is learn how to.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Swim that's. It grief is like an.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Ocean the ways are sometimes, big sometimes the water is,
calm and sometimes it can seem like it's. Overwhelming but,
man the best thing we can do when we're dealing
with it.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Is learn how to.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Swim and SO i can go into so many things
about how you how to support others when they going through,
it how to make sure you support yourself when you go.
Through but you, know find your support, system you, know
find your, hobbies things.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
That you, do your, likes gradually get.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Back into pouring into. Yourself and for everybody that's different.
Things we all do different things to help us, relax
to help us calm, down to deal with our. Emotions
so find those things to do to help you out
if you are, grieving if you find yourself, sad and

(31:02):
if you want more, information, man it behooves you.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
NOW i welcome.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
YOU i implore you to contact concepts outside ordinary. Limits seven
zero eight four zero five nine five six. Nine as
we enter into the, holidays you, know as you go.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Into these these, years these these.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Prime holiday season Of, thanksgiving now the prime holiday season Of.
Christmas and Maybe mom isn't, there Maybe grandpa isn't. There
maybe you have other, losses maybe the loss of a,
child maybe the loss of a, grandchild maybe the loss
of a, sibling your, sister your.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Brother. Me there's, issues there's loss on every. Hand But.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I'm here to tell you that you can make it.
Through and you might not be the, same the family
might not be the, same BUT i promise.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You you will be. Okay won't be the, same but
you will be. Okay so we want to.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Keep The Marshawn kneeland family in. Prayer we want to
keep anybody dealing with. Loss even if mom and dad
died ten years, ago fifteen years, ago that don't mean
five years. Ago that don't mean this holiday, season that
don't mean the birthday coming, up that don't mean the
anniversary coming, up that don't mean whatever time is coming

(32:33):
up doesn't affect you in some, way, shape fashion or.
Form but hopefully the tears of sadness start to turn
into tears of, joy and hopefully the memories start to
comfort you and allow you to smile and remember the
good times and the blessing that you had with having

(32:54):
that individual in your, life because you, know we have
to look at AND i tell all my, Clients i'm
a half Full i'm a glass half full. Therapist you.
Know my job is to try to help you see
the glass half. Full so even if you had a
loss of a child at, sixteen you, know every now

(33:17):
and THEN i hear a news story of a family
that lost their baby at, Five they lost their baby at,
four they lost their baby.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
At one year of.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Age you, Know so if you've been blessed with sixteen,
years if you were blessed with ten, years, man, eventually you,
know that's how we have to reframe it to help
us make it through because some people didn't even get.
That and so if you were blessed whatever time you
had with whoever you had it, with, man sometimes we
have to learn to count it all a joy because

(33:49):
we didn't have to be blessed with. That and so
that's pretty much our show. Today LIKE i tell, YOU
i won't be, long BUT i will be. Strong this
Is Talking. Cool just wanted to help you all, out
uh in this time of, need with all the grief
and bereavement and death that we see going on. Again
you can always contact me at seven zero eight four

(34:11):
zero five nine five six nine for my.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Services this Is.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Talking cool On Intellectual radio Dot. Com we'll be back
in action in a few. WEEKS i want you all
to enjoy the holidays and getting ready to.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Do what you. Do and in the words OF. W. E.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
B The, boys there's no more powerful force known to.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
The world than a man determined.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
To rise straight from the, beginning we, went and we
win and we win. It pull never said stop time we.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Did remember they ain't want to.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Listen now they got a man youngs on a. Mission
we win and we win and we. Win we, win
we win. It we win and we win and we win.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
IT i get.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
It remember that you want to listen, now ain't got
to pay, attention. Yoll so then we, Went if we,
went if we played glass for coming The, King god
bless all the THINGS i haven't, seen suspects from.

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Murder verbind murray right here on side of, Me rod
in The.

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