Candace Owens Exposes Charlie Kirk Text Messages | Our Response To Ashton Forbes - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 5 (00:30):
I know they look it down. So welcome, Hello, and
welcome to Investigator Podcast. I'm your host Shadow, alongside my
beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're diving into Candice
Owns bombshell revelations about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, including
verified text messages from individuals inside of Turning Point USA,
sent just forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk's death. These
messages have now been confirmed US real, and they're shaking

(00:53):
the foundation of what we thought we knew about that
tragic day. But that's not the only firestorm. Our good
old buddy Ashton, for once known for investigative bold theories
surrounding the disappearance of MS three seventy, has seemingly flipped
the script. He's now turned against the conspiracy community altogether
and has become a vocal supporter of Israel. The Internet's
calling him out, accusing him of being influence or even

(01:14):
paid to push a new narrative, and tonight we're breaking
it all down Candas's new evidence, Action's sudden shift, and
what it all means for the growing war over truth, influence,
and control. Buckle up, because this is going to be
an interesting episode. I gotta be honest. I just tried
that intro about four times, and I screwed it up
every single time, only because I really just want to

(01:35):
get into the episode. I understand intros are important because
we want to kind of give you guys an idea
of what we're going to talk about, but on this
one in particular, I was more kind of angry going
into this episode than anything for many reasons. And we'll
get to that, and we're probably going to address the
latter of what the intro said before we talk about
Candas Owans. And by the way, the name of that

(01:56):
song is Underwater by Nick Caution. He talks about you know,
the people you look up to, you know are looking
down you know, those are the soldiers of truth. And
I definitely one hundred percent believe that Charlie Kirk was
a soldier of truth, no matter what that meant for him.
I think that we're starting to see a lot of
that come out right now, you know, especially leading up

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to six months a year before he was killed in Utah,
Charlie was starting to have a different stance on in
particular one thing, and that was Israel. Right. And I
know there a lot of people that have tried to
say that everyone is that's talking about Israel and maybe
the connection of Charlie Kirk or any of this stuff
is blowing it out of proportion. But the reality is

(02:37):
they've all been They've also been saying that Cannis Owens
and all of her investigative journalism that she's been doing
since that horrific day, they're they're calling her crazy, they're
calling her a psychopath, They're doing any and everything to
discredit her in anyone that is actually asking real questions. Now,
Cannas has made it abundantly clear that she's not saying

(02:59):
for a fact that Israel had anything to do necessarily
with the Charlie Kirk assassination. But it is very strange
how things have unraveled. I guess you can say with
some of her reporting, the things that she's been talking
about on her show, and then people just trying to
attack her ruthlessly. They're trying to attack her character. They're

(03:22):
saying that she doesn't know anything. And one of those
people is Ashton Forbes. And so I want to talk
about this from the very beginning of the show because
for those that know, obviously we were the first podcast
that had Ashton Forbes on. We were the very first
podcast I believe, I guess was I don't know if
he reached out or some of our listeners reached out

(03:42):
and said, hey, you guys need to bring Ashton Forbes
on the show. We said, yes, we will. We had
talked with him prior to coming on the show. Ever
since then because of the Inmate Street seventy aircraft. For
those that just do not know anything about what Ashton
Forbes is even about, he was the guy that has
been invested to getting in Makes three seventy. The aircraft
that disappeared they still have not found it was Malaysians

(04:04):
Airline flight in Make Street seventy, and he was I
guess he had got sent videos that show orbs that
encircled an airplane and possibly zapped it. Out of this guy,
he then started pushing the narrative that this had zero
to do with aliens or UFOs. That's all just a
bunch of bs. Don't believe anybody that says anything about UFOs.

(04:27):
They're all morons and they're all idiots to This is
definitely the United States government. This is our advanced technology.
This is stuff that is just doomsday, you know, world
ending technology. This is reverse engineered stuff. He knows for sure.
Now Ashen Forbes, you know, he has a top secret
clearance or a security clearance at that he says that

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he is a does some kind of medical coding or whatever,
which is why he potentially needs a top secret clearance.
But we've got I can't even tell you how many
messages and emails of people almost like turning against us
because we had Ashton Forbes on to talk about his

(05:09):
stance on the Charlie Kirk assassination. And I don't know
why we haven't necessarily been clear even on the last
episode we talked to Ashton Forbes. But the episode we
had Ashton on was supposed to be Ian Carroll even
maybe at that point Candice Owans and Ashton Forbes, and
so we were setting all of this up to lead

(05:31):
into this debate because you know, Ian Carroll was going
to debate Ashton. Ashton was going tobate him, and we
were going to basically host the debate. This was not
something that we were going into that we're going to
try to, you know, kind of intervene in. We didn't
even know that Ian Carroll was not going to come
to the debate until an hour before we actually did it,

(05:51):
and so, long story short, we brought Ashen on. He
kind of spewed all of the bs that he spewed
for that entire hour and a half of that show.
I did lightly push back on some stuff and I said,
I don't necessarily agree with you on some of this stuff.
So probably a week later I had said that, I
text ash and I said, I think we should debate
this because you know, there's a lot of stuff I

(06:12):
do not agree with. There's obviously on our podcast we've
been doing this eight years. We've talked about conspiracies NonStop.
That's literally the name in our podcast. And one of
the things we definitely found that you know, all the
things that we have looked into or investigated or researched,
like most conspiracy theories usually turn out to be true. Now,

(06:33):
I'm not saying all of them, right, I'm definitely not
saying all conspiracy theories are true. But it was something
that I know for sure over the past year and
a half or two that Ashen never got really into.
He never definitely never got into politics. He never dam
once got into Israel or that October seventh thing, never
even talked about it at all. And it wasn't until

(06:53):
the Charlie Kirk assassination that he one hundred percent shifted
from ma Street seventy zero point energy and his scientific
talk where he went on his live streams on YouTube
and he posted quite a bit on x and everywhere else,
and he was trying to basically give people science lessons
or you know, I guess you can say physics lessons

(07:14):
of maybe how a zero point energy actually exists, maybe
how this makes three seventy plane really disappeared. Now, also
keeping in mind, during the time the Ashen really started
to blow up, there were many YouTubers that were calling
him out and saying, you know, look, we found this
graphic that we believe that this part of the video

(07:35):
of the inmates three seventy or circling the plane zapping
it out of the sky. We think this was faked.
We think this is an asset, a visual or a
graphic asset that someone put into this video. And so
he obviously denied this and said there's no way this
is possible. He was called out by a lot of people,
and you know, as someone that you know, we brought

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him on first, we didn't know first of all, anything
about physics and extensively about reverse engineering, and let's just
be honest, Ashen really didn't either, but we did our
best to kind of stay behind. We've always said, like, well,
I don't necessarily know if the videos are real. Do
we know that that's reverse engineer technology? Could it be UFOs?

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And is it real or not? That's the other thing, right,
But we it's always an interesting conversation to bring Ashen
on to talk about this. We did, and lately with
what Ashton's been doing on his own platform on x
on YouTube on basically calling anyone that believes in conspiracy
theories conspiratards and that they have zero IQ and they

(08:37):
are all a bunch of morons and they're all idiots.
And if you believe Candice o ends on anything she's investigating,
then you have a very low IQ, or you are
in a cult. I will say this. I want to
go ahead and make it very clear to everyone that
listens to our podcast that we do not agree with
Ashton Forbes on this topic, especially the Charlie Kirk assassination

(08:59):
and conspiracy theories, and for me definitely Israel either. I
don't agree with him at all on any of this whatsoever.
I want to also make something very clear is that
after the debate was supposed to happen on this podcast
with Ian Carroll and Ashton Forbes, and that didn't happen. Well,
like I said, a week later, I reached out and
I said, Ashton, do you want to debate? I think

(09:21):
we should because there's a lot of people saying, look,
do you hear what your boy Ashton's doing. You know,
we were getting so many messages, so many emails, and
I said, yes, I'm seeing it. I understand. I don't
agree with pretty much any of it. And then we
started getting people that are like, oh my god, I
can't believe you guys agree with Ashton. You guys are
pieces of shit. You guys are assholes. I'm unsubscribing. I'm

(09:41):
never listening to you again, and I'm like, when have
we ever said that we agree with Ashton Forbes about
this Charlie Kirk thing. We haven't.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I We've literally I interrupt for just a second because
I kind of have been on Ashton's side, not Ashton's side,
but I've been pro Israel this whole time. And during
the podcast, I did come out and say, hey, if
Candace has all this information, show us the receipts, and
I'll be the first to apologize. I did say that

(10:08):
I didn't really believe that she had any receipts, will
come to find out. She showed the receipts and even
turning point USA said confirmed these are actual receipts. So
I said, I will apologize. I apologize that Candace does
have the receipts. Do I still think that Israel or
do I think that Israel didn't kill Charlie Kirk. I

(10:31):
still believe that they didn't. I don't think they had
anything to do with it. Do I think something was
sinister more than a loan gunman Tyler Robinson was the
only person that plotted this murder. No, I think there
was something totally sinister about this assassination cover and it
was a definite cover up, and it goes way deeper
than what we know. Could it be plausible that was Israel? Sure?

(10:52):
Could it be plausible that it's America. Sure, we don't know.
But I'm not going to just sit out there and
point my finger at Israel because everybody else is doing that.
I'm not gonna do that. But I do think it's sinister,
and I think that there are other evil players, are
actors involved. I'm not sure who these are, and I'm

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just saying that I'm not one to come out and say, hey,
it was this person if I don't know for sure,
and that's all I have to worry.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Cannas is not saying that. Either I'm just.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Gonna apologize that Candace did come with the receipts. That's
what I have to say.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
And listen, keeping in mind, Candas is not saying for
sure it says or either she's just showing all the
evidence that has been presented so far. Right, That's what
she's doing and that's what she should be doing. Now.
What I was saying is is that I ask Ashton
less debate because there's a lot of people that are
our listeners and just my own like every time I
would see Ashton's videos, his live streams, his post it

(11:47):
pissed me off. I'm not gonna lie. I mean the
they angered me every single time I saw as posts,
because I guess my first thought was damn. I thought
I knew Ashton like I thought I knew who Ashton was,
like I really did. I trusted him. I entrusted him.
We actually entrusted him enough at one point in time
to where we put up twenty five thousand dollars for

(12:07):
anyone that would come forward with the original video of
the MS Tree seventy stuff. If someone created it, we'll
put up twenty five grand. Another guy would I can't
even remember. Kim dot Com would put up one hundred thousand,
whatever it was. And so when I see like this
massive flip that Ashton's doing, it angers me for sure.
And so I reached out to Ashton. I said, hey,

(12:27):
do you want to debate? We had agreed to a debate.
I did get sick. Sherry and I both got sick.
But I literally just said a text astion that the
I guess it was the day before we were supposed
to bate. I said, Hey, I'm sick. Can we push
this to the next day tomorrow, and so I never
heard anything back from him that night, never got a
response and text message, never did anything. At six point
thirty the next day, which I think I had mentioned

(12:49):
in the text, let's try to do it around six
thirty or whatever, at six thirty the next day, he
gave me a thumbs up on my text message. Now
that's not saying hey, let's do it. It was just
a thumbs up, almost like he was trying to make
it out like he acknowledged it the night before, but
he didn't. And so I'd reached out and said, hey, look, dude,
we were planning on doing something else because you know,
we didn't hear back from you. So I said, do

(13:10):
you if you want to do it still, let's push
it to tomorrow and we'll do what we were planning
on doing tonight, right, And so he had sent a
text message back he said, hey, I am He said
I'm not feeling it. Basically, he said let's do something
else or whatever the case was. And I said, well,
you know, it's fine if we don't want a debate.
Whatever I said, I don't even remember, but I knew

(13:30):
he wasn't feeling itselfs like there's no point in trying
to convince him to come on and debate. What I
will say as of this point right now is that
we're not going to have Ashton back on this podcast
unless he does agree to a debate. If he wants
to debate me, fine, If he doesn't, then fine, thank.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
You're really aggravated with Ashton just because he's calling people
like ourselves conspiracy trds or whatever, and he's it is.
And you know, we have always been loyal to Ashton
as friends and I do consider Ashton a friend. And
I don't know what's going on with Ashton. I don't
know what's changed him, why he's decided to go to

(14:10):
this political conspiracy route. Maybe he's done with anti conspiracy,
maybe he's done with the airplane stuff. I think he
is brilliant in the science field and the physics thing,
but name calling is not going to get anyone anywhere.
And that's what I think is really raising a lot
of hairs on people's backs, is that Ashton is just
coming out and he doesn't even care if he's calling

(14:32):
out his own listeners, calling them retards. Basically, no, he
doesn't care at all. And I don't know what's going
on with Ashton, because that is not like Ashton. And
I'm not gonna just be disloyal and defriend Ashton. He's
still my friend, and I'm just gonna put it out there.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well, for me, he's pissed me off enough to where
I don't give a damn anymore whatsoever. I really don't.
And you know, it comes to a point where, look, friends,
friends are friends, right. But then also I think that
the is mass disinformation going on on his account. With
those three hundred thousand people and the amount of people
that he has that follow him and listen to him,

(15:09):
it's almost like, you know, a lot of people are
claiming that he's paid. Well, if he's paid, like and
I've said this before, if Ashton is paid, I don't
think it's by Israel, because that's not gonna do Israel
any favors. It's gonna make Israel more people hate them.
Because if people like Ashton and the way he's doing
it and the way he's going about it is trying
to get people on Israel's side, I don't see that

(15:29):
happening whatsoever. If maybe the government came along and said, hey,
we'll pay you to run with this narrative just because
I mean that makes kind of more sense because like
he's destroying his own yeah book platform.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah what if they're doing that on purpose to make
him destroy his platform and he doesn't even know what
he's doing right now because that's bullshit.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well listen, But all I'm saying is is that a
lot of the stuff that he's saying, there's no way
that what is coming out of his mouth, with supposedly
as smart as he is, that he actually believes the
bullshit that coming out of his mouth. There's just no way.
And I've thought a lot about that, you know, and
we've always been a podcast, which is what also kind

(16:09):
of pissed me off when when some of our listeners
for a long time reached out to us said I
can't believe that you guys are like this. I'm like,
what did I miss?

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Like?

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Where have we been? That we have agreed with Ashton
Forbes and we agree with the shit that's coming out
of his mouth, and that we are anti Candace or
whatever the case is. Because I'm gonna go ahead and
tell you right now, I stand with Candace Owens, like
one dred percent. She's risking her life, whether you believe
it or not. It's always one of those things that
people don't believe people are risking their lives. They want
to make fun of it, like, oh, yeah, your lives

(16:38):
are risk now, you know. It's just like now her
new evidence, which we'll talk about in just a moment,
because we're going to play some of her some of
her actual video where she exposes the newest evidence. But
you know, she she knows for a fact also which
she has not released this yet, that apparently, twenty four
hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he had told some

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people that he thought that he was going to be killed.
They were going to kill him. Who they are, we
don't know, but he said, I think that they are
going to kill me. Now, was this in the same
text thread that was recently exposed and validated with Turning
Point USA people, including Josh Hammer, was in that same
thread or was it not? We don't know. But what
we do know is that everyone called candiss OANs a psycho.

(17:21):
She's crazy, you know, she's mentally ill. She should be
put in a mental institution. If anybody believe anything canis
Owan's is saying, then you are in a cult, you
have a low IQ and you're an idiot. And guess
who some of the biggest, one of the biggest voices
saying it is it has been Ashton Forbes, and Candis
Owen's even called out Ashton Forbes in her newest video,

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which we'll get to in a second.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, and I just wanted to point out too that
I've always been a fan of Candace Owens. When she
parted with Daily Wire and parted with Ben Shapiro, I
was hurt because she said, Jesus is King. Ben Shapiro
didn't like that they parted ways.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
You were hurt because she said crisis King.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
No, I was hurt that they hearted because I thought
they made a great team before. Beforehand, I thought they
were a great team because I like both of them.
I like Ben Shapiro, I like Candice Owens. I've always
been a fan of hers. But I just wanted to
say that I guess when they parted ways, she really

(18:18):
started going after Israel. Then it wasn't just Charlie Kirk.
She started going after Israel before that.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
The problem is that she started going after Israel because
of all the evidence that was presented in front of
her while she was at Daily Wire, and obviously Daily
Wire could not have that because they're basically all Jewish influencers,
I mean, and they are one of the most heavily
paid by Israel influenced companies in the United States. They

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are essentially israel state media, the Daily Wire that they
are funded more heavily than almost anybody, and so they're
not allowed to say anything bad about Israel. They are.
They are basically like, you go to Israel and you
might as well just turn on Daily Wire because that's
what's going to be an is the same talking points,
the same shit that they say. By the way, I
don't know if anybody remember when Ben Shapiro back during
the COVID nineteen pandemic, was trying to convince people to

(19:08):
get the vaccine because it wasn't that bad. I don't
worry about that. Oh yeah, that was one of the things.
And look, Ben Shapiro has always been one of those
fast talking, very knowledgeal people.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I like him, and I still like him, and I
do still like Candace. It just hurt me when they
split because I liked both of them. I don't like it,
you know, you know, I hate to say it, but
I kind of like Nick Fointes too, because he has
great points. You know, just because they are not on
my side doesn't mean I can't like them.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean in my life right now, especially
with the way media is, is that we always have
to be looking at everybody that is out there telling
us anything, because there is a very good chance with
the fact that mainstream media is dying, and the fact
that Israel and other foreign lobbies, no matter who it is,
and not just foreign but also domestic lobbies, whether it
be Open Society foundations, the New World Order agendas, the

(19:56):
Israel apack agendas, the all of this, you always have
to try to decipher like who's telling you what and why?
And I think people are starting to get really, really,
really good at that, to the point where even Charlie
Kirk himself realized, which was pretty obvious in some of
his text exchanges about Israel and like how bad they
are at PR and like, I can't believe that they

(20:19):
would be this dumb when it comes to some of
this shit. And then you know, Charlie Kirk literally one
of the last messages he ever said before he said,
I think they are going to kill me. One of
the last things he said was I have no choice
but to abandon the pro Israel stance completely, Like that
is not fake message. That is literally forty eight hours

(20:39):
before he was assassinated. And then from what cannon, someone's
just saying now that twenty four hours before he was assassinated.
Don't know if it was in the same thread, but
saying that I think they are going to kill me,
and twenty four hours later he was assassinated. So is
that all just one big coincidence. I don't think so.
I think someone had intel from somewhere that was feeding

(21:00):
it to Charlie, like, hey man, we got to be
a little more careful. And I saw people on X saying, oh, yeah,
if he really thought this, because they're already trying to
say Candace's lying about this too, which I promise you
she's going to have receipts on this as well. But
they're already trying to say, oh yeah, well, if he
really believed that, like he he would have had much
stronger security at you know, Utah Valley University and all this.

(21:22):
Like he had a lot of security there. I mean,
he had a decent security, but.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
He had six people.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
How what else are you going to do, you know,
And and the reality is regardless of whether Charlie thought
that they were going to kill him, whoever they is
or they are, I mean, you don't just think that
necessarily that someone would go to the links that they
would maybe the president of the United States to kill you.
And so someone that gets on a rooftop, if that's

(21:46):
where the bullet even came from, I'm starting to think
more and more than maybe it wasn't not you.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
But when you think about somebody draws crowds like Charlie
Kirk does or did, then you need major security like
you would a president. And I don't think he really
had that.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
No, he did.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
And you know, as a matter of fact, there's a
lot of people saying he was not even wearing a
chess guard or body armor or like. That's just crazy
to me. When you especially when you're going to college
campuses and you're basically calling out people that hate you
to come talk to you to see if you can
change their mind or let them try to change your mind,
I mean, that's kind of just craziness to me that

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he wouldn't be protected.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
But you also have to understand, Sherry, that these are
public universities most of the time, and public universities. They
don't really allow you to close down public universities and
check every single person that comes in there for your event,
like they're allowing the event.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Would you wear body armor? Would you have a chess
play on?

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Of course I will, especially.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
If you are the caliber of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, well, I mean, of course I would. But that
still doesn't stop a neck shot, right, It still doesn't.
It still doesn't stop a headshot, especially when you're sitting
still most of the time. And you know, but what
I'm saying is to this is that it's really hard
to secure a college campus that's a public university, which
is literally what is giving you the ability to go

(23:08):
to this university and do what you were doing, which
is to talk on this university to college kids, because
it is an open air environment. It is an open airplace.
So you can't you can't just you can't just lock
down the university because Charlie Kirk's there.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
But how hard is it to just fly drones around
on the roof?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well you could, I mean, and there was a lot
of drones that was in the air. I mean whose
drones were they were they drones that maybe there's video
footage of the of different angles. Maybe it wasn't on
Charlie's side, but on the assassin's side. We don't know.
It wouldn't be that hard, but you know, did they
do it? We just don't know. So I want to
go ahead and just say the last thing I'm gonna

(23:46):
say about Ashon is I don't agree with anything to
Ashton saying right now whatsoever. I completely disabout every single
thing to ash and saying. And honestly, the only way
that he's ever going to be back on the show whatsoever,
and I know he doesn't probably give a damn, is
that if he wants to debate me on in any
of this stuff, I'd be more than happy and willing
to do that. Will he, I don't know. That's that's
for him to decide or whatever. Or is it even

(24:08):
worth it? That's the that's the other question. Is it
worth it to let him back on the show and
debate him? You know? Is will he even let me talk?
Will you know? Will it be just a shit show?
I don't know, but it you know, Just so you
guys understand that we always on this podcast are about
the truth and We're not just gonna go with the
with whatever narrative someone's saying, no matter what, you know,

(24:31):
we're trying to find the truth through all of this BS,
just like you guys are, and so don't ever and
I and I hope that you guys give us more
credit than to just think that we're gonna platform Ash
to speak bullshit that is either a paid propaganda or
or something that he's just trying to discredit people for
for his own personal benefit, whatever the case is. I

(24:51):
would hope that you guys would give us more credit
for that, because that's not what we're about. We've not
done this for seven or eight years to try to
expose every bit of truth we possibly can. We've been
back and forth on issues, We've argued with ourselves. It's
affected our marriage at times, has affected our life, has
affected everything that we do because this is not easy. Honestly,
it's not easy to talk about this stuff all the time.
It's not easy to have to deal with even the

(25:14):
stuff over the past two weeks with just the ash
and stuff and people sending us messages and emails and
you know, you name it.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, and I just want to put it out there
with the whole Israel thing. For those of you that
are regular listeners, you know that Chad and I do
constantly argue about Israel and it's very hard. I have
to mention this that, you know, I was raised in
a half Jewish family and I was raised to believe
to have alliance with Israel. And it's very disappointing to

(25:41):
me when I have to come out and say and
swallow my pride and say, hey, maybe I'm wrong. And
I am saying that I'm swallowing my pride and I'm saying, hey,
maybe I'm wrong in this situation. It's a hard task
to do as far as being raised the way I was,
So I just want to put it out there. It's
not that we're just you know, taking Ashton side or

(26:02):
I'm taking Ashton side. Chad's never been that way. Chad
and I are the ones that disagree about this topic.
But it is very hard for me just from my
upbring just like a lot of you that were upbringing
you know, your upbringings were in you know, the Christian
Church or a Catholic Church or whatever. You know, it's
hard to go against what your beliefs were growing up

(26:22):
as a child. And through your adulthood, so you got
to give credit where credit is due as well.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, but you know, and I think the problem is
that we're they somebody is making this about religion anti Semite.
If you even question is are you're an anti semit bullshit,
that's not true. Like you can question anyone, you know,
Like I say this all the time. We've had ninety
percent of our episodes that are about you, the United
States government, And are we called anti Christian because of

(26:51):
that or whatever? There's no one that's ever going to
tell me I'm anti Semite because I question is real, Like,
that's just ridiculous. First of all, I don't live in
an Israel. I live in America, and that's my first
and most important country in the world. Is Israel even
my second, No, I don't really have a second and
most important country. I think that all people deserve fair

(27:14):
I guess, human rights, all that stuff. The innocent civilians
don't deserve to be killed, no matter who that is.
And no government should use any religion or any powerful
force to either kill innocence or whatever. And the United
States has done it for a very long time. I
also believe Israel has done that. Many countries in the

(27:35):
Middle East has done that. Russia's done it. Literally a
lot of people have done it. And the unfortunate part
is when you question Israel, though you are anti semi,
when you question anybody else, you're not. You're just questioning things,
and that, I think is what the problem is with
gen Z. Guess what Charlie Kirk was trying to get
across the people is like, your pr is ridiculous. It
is stupid. And if you think that you're going to

(27:57):
turn the younger generation to pro Israel, you know, ideologies
or stances based on you saying you're not allowed to
question Israel, that's when it becomes a problem. So anyways,
I just want to go ahead and say that. So
I was thinking about this, Let's go ahead and go
into the Candace Owens interview. We're gonna get through as
much as of it as we can. We're probably not

(28:17):
going to play the whole thing. I do encourage you
guys to go and listen to Candis Owens on YouTube
or wherever you listen to her. She does her live
shows on YouTube. I do encourage you guys to go
support her, go give her encouragement, because right now look,
she is someone that is sticking her neck out on
the line, and I'm saying thatck meaning literal, like she
could get assassinated. And when people try to act like
it's ridiculous that people think that because Candace said, Hey,

(28:40):
I'm going to send off these packages around the world
to people I trust because if I am murdered, I
want people to actually have all the stuff I have
that I'm going to expose at all. And people are
already saying, like, oh my god, she's psycho, dude, she
actually thinks that Israel's gonna kill her, or that she's
just crazy. You know, It's the same stuff as like
any let or any whoever would have thought about Charlie.

(29:02):
If Charlie would have said I think they're going to
kill me or whatever, they would have laughed at him
too until it happens, right, And like I said, we
don't know. We absolutely do not know who killed Charlie Kirk.
But I think the number one thing is we have
to continue to ask the questions. And if we don't
have people like Candie Owans that are doing the dirty
work exposing as much as they possibly can. Even within

(29:23):
the Turning Point USA organization or people outside of the
Turning Point USA organization. Then all we have is the
official narrative. That's all we have. And I'm not saying
that official narrative isn't even true. But what we do
know is there's a lot of lies that are happening
and for some reason, and we don't know exactly what
those reasons are, but it is strange. Here's Candie Owans.

(29:44):
Let's listen to a little bit of her latest.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
Show, Yes Yes, Yes, Who will succeed Charlie Kirk? Who
shall inherit the Turning Point throne? You know what, you guys,
The best part of all of this for me is,
unlike those It'll be gotten errors on the show, I
have a zero percent interest in Charlie's empire. I am
not motivated by the idea of carrying on his torch.

(30:10):
Not for a single moment did I think any person
could carry on his torch. If you thought you could,
you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was, in fact,
and anomaly in the system that happened rarely. And yeah,
I don't know that I will live to see another
person like him. I want you guys to know something
I want to share this with you. You can take
it or you can leave it. But Charlie was betrayed.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I know this. I've known this really since the first second.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
But I rarely have vivid dreams, and I did, in
fact have a very vivid one over the weekend, in fact,
last time that I had.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I want to stop here because people have been making
crazy fun of candias owns about this now, Sherry, We've
talked a little bit about what Candie Owens is about
to say on other podcast episodes, and this this is
what the what I would call like. You know, they're
trying to call anybody that questions Charlie kirk'ssassination or or

(31:08):
questions Israel or any of that. You know what they're
calling those people on the right now woke right. They're
trying to separate the right by calling woke right and
just regular right people that agree with Israel people that
do not agree with Israel. If you agree and are
on Israel's you know, doorstep, beating on our door saying
we love you Israel, you're right. If you are question

(31:29):
in Israel in any way, shape or form, you are
woke right. Or if you're questioning narratives on anything that
is not pro right agenda or whatever the case is,
even the Epstein Files. Keep in mind, you are then
woke right if you don't believe that Trump's saying that
the Epstein Files is a hoax. If you don't believe that,
then you're woke right. So they're already separating people. But

(31:49):
one of the things they're doing also is that Candice
makes this analogy here. That's something that she had experienced
in her life before, and it's something that Sherry's talked about,
and we've talked about this quite a bit on the show.
But of course people own the what I actually call
the woke right. The people like Ashton Forbes, the people
like Misfit Patriot and all these other idiots. Those people

(32:09):
are actually the woke right. They are. I don't even
think they're right at all. I literally just think they
are paid an influence to officiate a narrative. I don't
think they're right whatsoever. But here is what Kennas said
about a.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Dream, A super vivid dream I was pregnant. Tends to
happen a lot to women when they're pregnant. But in
that dream from twenty twenty three, my former producer of
the show and I were standing in the control room
and she told me that she was twenty six weeks pregnant.
This is in the dream, and she told me exactly
what month the baby was coming.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I asked her in the dream, is it a boy?
Is it a girl? And she said it's a boy.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
I woke up and I immediately texted my producer in
real life and I said, hey, you're pregnant, just so
you know, it's a boy. And then she found out
that she was pregnant one week later. She had no
idea when I texted her, and something that we reflected
on a couple of months later because she was just
totally shocked looking back on it, And this is our
text chain from you can see twenty twenty three. She said,
you texted me June sixteenth, and I think I got

(33:08):
pregnant June twenty six This is crazy and it's going
to be a boy.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
It's nuts.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
I said, I'm telling you your baby visited me. It
was an insanely vivid dream. He was on his way
and she said, that is so bizarre. My mom also
texted me that week saying that she had a dream
I was pregnant, I said, I haven't had a dream
that vivid since it's been my only vivid dream this
entire pregnancy. I believe people can communicate in dreams on
their way in and on.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Their way out of this world.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
I similarly, like I just said, had a vivid dream
this weekend and Charlie came to me and he told
me that he was betrayed, And so for me, you
don't have to believe that, but I do believe that,
And it was the immediate sense I got actually, and
I don't know who exactly it is that betrayed him,

(33:54):
but I also felt in the dream that it is
soon going to be revealed, that it's actually inevitable, that
it is going to be that there is nothing and
no one that is going to stop the truth from
coming out, and it is going to have international consequences.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Take that to the bank.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
Quote me on that women tend to have a stronger
intuition about people, I would say I think it was
the writer producer Conrad Flynn that recently went on to
Tucker Carlson's show and he discussed that discussed that phenomenon
in the context of the persecution of Christ, talking about

(34:27):
conscious Pilot's wife warning him not to persecute Jesus.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Take a listen to that portion of their conversation, and.

Speaker 8 (34:36):
If you look at ponscious pilot, conscious pilot, you know
he wants to set you. At some point he flips
and he's like, you know, this guy is innocent. My
wife is having dreams about this. And that's another thing
that's under reported in history. Wife as wife as soothsayer
slash dreamer. I mean, your wife has many times been like,
I have a bad feeling about this guy, Tucker, don't

(34:57):
have him on your show. And her intuition is such
that you, even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know,
you changed your wife's take on stuff.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
You don't ignore it. But that's I have ignored it.
And you're like, I've actually never listened to that. I know.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
I mean, I've been married thirty four years as of Saturday,
and it's like a joke in my house.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
You know, I told you he was bad. I don't know.
He's hilarious. He's making a good guy to me. That's hilarious.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Yeah, So you've be the patas pilot where she's like,
did you don't arrest this man? I had a hundred
person like whatever, I'm doing my work right now.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
I'm very shallow. So someone someone who's amusing or fun
to have dinner with, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
I just get swept away. I like that guy, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (35:40):
You're like, Bravis was amazing on that podcast I got
to I got to have him on these He's fantastic.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
It's actually really funny because I'm recapping conversations that I've
had with Zucker.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person
at all.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
It's obviously a bad guy, and he's like, really I
like him, but dinner with him anyways. Obviously what they're
accurately describing I should say, especially between a husband and
a wife, and definitely my relationship with my husband. I
can say that from almost the very moment that I
learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I
said to George through tears that he was betrayed. And

(36:14):
now we're all just sort of on this journey to
find out by who. So I released a text message yesterday.
I dropped it on the world, and it caused, and
this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic. As
I said the chatter on X was top tier, emphasis
on the tier because there were a lot of them
being shed by everyone who was discounting me.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
She's this, she's that, She's lying. Charlie never changed his mind.
He was committed to Israel to the day he died.
In fact, you almost died for Israel. That was the
vibe they were putting down. And I was just getting.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
Angrier and angrier and angrier. But self control always pays off.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
There were moments on.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
X where people were after this text message was revealed,
almost like bargaining, like, please, this can't be real.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Let me show you. They're making fake messages themselves.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
This is how easy it is to make a fake
message that this cannot be real.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
This was the first thing I saw after Candice dropped
the text messages and she said, here's the messages, and
on X, what was it. Everybody that is the woke right,
the actual woke right, the actual pos people, They're not
even right. These people are just either paid or influenced
to come in and try to break up the right,

(37:28):
try to break up the narrative and the mindset of
people that are actually thinking, you know, the people like us,
people are listening to this episode, it's not even the
right or left. It's people that are awake and are asleep.
It's the people that are either you know, completely blinded
by money or influence or or whatever. It's those people
versus people that have been seeking truth about everything for

(37:51):
a very long time. And so what were they doing? Yes,
they were all over social media. And I can't even
tell you how many messages I responded to. The next day,
after turning point, USA came out and said, Hey, here's
the deal, guys. I responded to so many messes, said
how did this end for you? And most of these people,
by the way, most of these people that tried to
say that these text messages were all fake and they

(38:13):
were all bullshit, and Candae made them up. All those
people they turned their comments off of all their posts
because they didn't want to hear it. They wanted to
move on, so they would move on, make another three
or four posts, and it was just like it never happened.
And then the next thing, Canna says, the next thing
they're running with was her dreams. So they were saying, oh, yeah,
so Charlie came to Candice in her dreams now, and

(38:36):
so where's the receipts for your dreams, Candace. You know,
it's just like, this is what people are doing. They're
doing any and everything to discredit her. And when people
are doing this and you see big influencers that just
completely abandon whatever the hell it was, a lot of
these guys were doing the paid propagandias ship for a
long time. Anyways, you can just tell who these people are.
Turn's one of them, misspit Patriot. I mean, you name them.

(38:59):
But then you see people, Ashton, that we're talking about
something completely different now, all of a sudden, talking about something,
you know, this particular thing, trying to discredit people that
are actually doing investigative work, Ashton, Like you know that
you supposedly were doing about MMA Stree seventy. You know
that's what you were supposedly doing about m A Stree seventy.
But yet, and by the way, Candace Owens brought you

(39:19):
on her show to let you tell the world about
your investigative journey through m A Street seventy. She gave
you one of the biggest platforms you've ever been on,
and then for you just to come back and completely
shit on her, it's pretty pretty wrong, in my opinion,
and by the way, I don't expect anything less than
what's going to happen after this episode.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, I was just going to relate to that. When
Candace dropped these text messages, she did name drop one
name too. And when she started dropping names, I knew
she had evidence. She knew what she was talking about,
because she's not going to just drop somebody's name and
not follow through or have something to back it up.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah. And by the way, she's doing a live as
we speak right now, and she's dropping another name tonight
that's in that message thread. So anyways, let's listen some more.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
They were accusing deluding themselves into believing whatever was necessary
for them not to accept the reality that I was
telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Of course I was telling the truth.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
Here's just a few of my favorites in this is
Village Crazy Lady who I love Mel, who was responding
to an absurdity that was being presented by Ashton Forbes,
Nell said, these losers are down so bad right now
that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense.
Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been absolutely maniacal. First off, Cannas

(40:36):
has no credibility. Second, there's a bunch of telegram group
chat scams that claim to be real people. I was
briefly in touch with one Elon Musk. Oh, really, you
were in touch with Elon Musk on telegram. Third, if
you discount the text messages between Tyler Robinson and his
transferry lover, you cannot.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Take these at face value.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
Lastly, even if the text messages were real, they mean
literally nothing related to Charlie's death. I find it scary
how Cannas is building a literal cult. Soon they'll be
drinking a kool aid in sync with I don't even
know if that says thirty one Atlas to be sent
to Heaven, I think that might be a cult. Actually,
that's how I'm not a cult at all. So much

(41:19):
I don't even recognize was probably a very big cults name.
And I love that Melbourne plis and says bro If
I got scanned in a Telegram group chat by Elon
Musk quote unquote, I'd take that ish to my grave, Britta.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You can see she's also replying.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
He was replying to Britta, no soup for noles, So
you want to bring that right back up, she wrote,
And by the way, she used to work for Seth Dylan.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
So this is the usual chatter a group of people.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
She wrote, is Candace posting fake group chat screenshots to
conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the
pro Israel cause and inviting Candace to the TPUs stage.
I'm just asking questions. All fair, We allow questions, allow diagnoses.
We're all We're chill. We're on the side of truth.
We are so chill. Laura Lumer, who is legally just

(42:07):
you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's
a literal lunatic, had the nerve to post this about
me When somebody called her out, Morgan Ariel said, Laura
Lumer hasn't made a single post about Candis owns reporting
on Charlie Kirk's group messages. We all know she's the
first to run her mouth. And she wrote, because I
don't give an f about Candace Owens and her postpartum
psychotic rants. Even if those texts are real, still does

(42:31):
not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I never said
that Candis Owens makes content for low IQ people who
don't understand how criminal investigations work. It's going to be
hilarious when she is sued by TPUSA in addition to mccrone's.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Wife, Yes, bankrupt her for telling the truth? Do it?

Speaker 10 (42:48):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Bankrupt her?

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Well, Candace did come out and say that that he's
a dude. Yeah, that the white.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Dude. Ye is that what you're officially saying?

Speaker 11 (42:59):
Though?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
That is kind of like defaming somebody?

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Well it is, but I mean we still don't actually
and for those that don't know she or he or
whoever whatever Macrone's wife or husband is. And also keeping
in mind, there are actual, I think credible images of
Macron actually like making out with dudes on this boat
and stuff. So I mean there's that, and then there

(43:25):
are actual, also credible pictures of Macrone's wife that looks
very sus And this is not even like the mic
or Michael.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
This is just kind of like microbombs not.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Though, but it's not. It's deeper than that. And so
the interesting thing I believe, and I did not look
into this completely, but from what I understand is that
I don't even think that Macrone's wife, whatever, Bridget is
that her name, Yeah, Bridget is that his name? Anyways,
I don't even think I don't even think that he
or she is suing Candice for that. It is something else.

(43:59):
Oh really, it's very weird.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
But you noticed all that started when they were on
a plane and she got caught or he or whatever
got caught smacking him on the plane.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah, I mean he got be slapped. But you know,
but this is also the thing. So obviously Candace is
calling out Ashton based on what he had said. And
this is what I think Ashton wants. He wants to
get as much wave and as much attention on some
of his posts calling out people like Candace and stuff.
But what just still doesn't make sense to me about
Ashton is like, guy, you are supposedly this dude that

(44:33):
has said that, you know, you believe in one of
possibly the biggest conspiracy theories in history, about these orbs
that are teleporting an airplane that has disappeared into oblivion.
I mean, you you were this guy. You are also
the guy that says the government's hiding all this shit
from us and we can't trust the government, we can't

(44:53):
do this until all of a sudden, oh no, no, no,
we got to trust the government, guys. And it's just
like on an ex post I had the other day
and I think some of these people were ash followers
and whatever. And this person says, oh, yeah, yeah, let's
look at Candace's credibility versus the FBI. You're gonna believe Candace? Really?
And I'm like, seriously, are you are you really asking

(45:14):
me whether I should believe versus the FBI.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Well, I did start having trust when Patel came in
and Dan Borgino Bongino came in. I started trusting him, like,
they're going to do the right thing. They're going to
expose all the FBI before them and show us how
corrupt and you know how bad they were. They're going
to show us all the evidence. Well, once they didn't

(45:39):
show the evidence of the Epstein files and everything else,
the JFK files, the alien files. You know, they said
on day one they already had them, they knew them,
they read them, they've seen them. They're going to put
it out there, and they still haven't. That's when I
lost I guess my fault. Yeah, my faith, not even loyalty,
my faith towards the new FBI.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yeah, it's it's just the FBI. It's the government machine
that lies to us on a regular basis. And so
you know, this is just what blows my mind. It's
like with Ashton, for example, he was anti government, anti like,
you better tell me what the reality of this is.
And now this says, oh, Charlie Kirk did no, no, no,
believe everything the government's saying. Now believe exactly all the

(46:20):
evidence and do not question anything. And if you do,
you're a low IQ idiot psychopath, that's what he's saying.
And you're in a cult. Anyways.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Yeah, when you were down bad, just like Mel says,
really down bad, nothing is left you just sue. Anyways,
back to how unhinged just chatter was on ex Generally speaking,
I laughed out loud. Everybody uses the term Blitzkrieg, even
in the NFL football team say blitzkreg Yes, it relates

(46:52):
back to Germany. It's a bombardment strategy, so that's why
we use it when you're going to bombard and so
I called it Blitzkregg Week because we're just dropping a
bunch of bombs and B'RETNA.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Decided to take that literally, she said.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
Candice thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology and make
a turning point pun while she incites further her raspin
of TPUSA employees by implicating them in Charlie's death. It's
a sick game for her and out of nowhere. Megan
Kelly needs to stop making excuses for this vile behavior.
I have no idea while why Megan Kelly is being

(47:27):
just abused just like a people just get drunk and
beat Megan Kelly when they get home. I don't know
what is happening and why she's being dragged into anything
that I say, but it's exceptional that they're now looking.
They're so desperate that German words you can't even say.
Blitz means lightning, kreeg means war. Last I checked, people
are still allowed to speak German, and last I check,

(47:49):
everybody uses the terminology blitz, blitz, kregg. Washington Post certainly
does when they're describing things it's happening at the White House.
But now this is how desperate they are for anything.
Grasping at Straw's Nick fuenttes our routine, federal informants wrote,
writes this, Why did she sit on this for four

(48:12):
weeks and then censor the other name? So just grasping
at Straws, just grasping at Straw's he already follow that
up by taking a stab at Charlie Kirk, who's dead.
Charlie Kirk said he had no choice lea the pro
Israal cause because a Jewish doner stopped giving him millions
of dollars.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
What a coincidence.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped
paying him to shill. Speaking of paying people to shill,
It's why I didn't take one minute or one sentence
rather of him trying to eulogize Charliekirk seriously, because that
right there is the real. Nick fuent Tes the quartering
jumped in. He says, a serious question. Let's assume the
text surreal and that Charlie was one hundred percent serious

(48:48):
and not just being sarcastic.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Which is totally possible. What exactly does this prove?

Speaker 7 (48:53):
Think before you reply, what does it prove other than
someone close to him was fine leaking his texts. That's
than their new talking point? How dare you leak text messages?
And finally, this is just funny. So we're going to
show you this community notes for the when the misfit
patriot writes, I will give Kennis every single shekel Israel
has paid me for my posts if she can prove

(49:15):
those text messages are real. Update says community Notes. Andrew
Colvett confirmed the screen grab was real. Of course it
was real. But I mean I would have.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
To be the and the misfit patriot. By the way,
I've gotten some back and forth. So this moron, this
guy I think is the biggest moron on the entirety
of the X platform. He is.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Just speaking like Ashton when you're calling you.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
No no, but he is because he all he does
is propaganda's all he does is propaganda's he bates, he
rage bits, he talks shit about people. He consistently puts
other people down. This is what he does. He loves
it because even later on, I think the next day
he talked about how much money he made from X
by some of his posts that he got three million

(50:02):
views on because Candice Owens shared some of his stuff.
Because he's just being an idiot, right and and and
just an idiot by saying anyone that believes that there's
anything other than the official narrative of Charlie Kirk is
just anti semitic. You are anti Semitic. You are a
piece of shit. You are this and it's always funny
they're they're taking up for these religious causes, and if

(50:23):
you go and watch some of their videos and how
they talk to people and how they like speak, it's like,
dang man, if you're if you're, if you're taking up
for Israel, I mean I would think Israel be paying
you to shut the hell up. Honestly. I mean, I
honestly think that, like if I was Israel and watching
Misfit Patriot asking Forbes some of these people, would I
would be paying him ten thousand dollars to just keep

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your damn mouse shut.

Speaker 12 (50:45):
Because it's making keep talking looking back, Yeah, keep talking
about whatever you were once talking about.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Well, And I just wanted to point out what Candace
was saying about these text messages. People saying that, oh,
they're fake or whatever. But you got to think about
what's going on in our government and what's been going
on in our government for a very long time. You
think about Komy right now, he's going to get ridy.
He pleaded not guilty, and he's going on trial for
getting into seven senators' emails and ing and lying about it.

(51:16):
But he was they were actually in their emails and
text messaging and getting all this information from Republican senators.
And if you don't think that this Charlie Kirk text
could be slipped out, look at what happened to these senators.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Yeah. Yeah. And the funny thing is it's not even
the FBI that's doing this, you know, the this is
just Candice and her team and people, you know, and
people forget that Cannas Owans was a like one of
the originals at Turning Point USA with Charlie Kirk. You know,
she she grew up kind of with Charlie Kirk in
this movement, and people just forget that. People think that
she just don't.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Have I think she was more of a mentor towards Charlie.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Yeah, because she's older than Charlie Kirk. She Charlie Kirk
really looked up to her.

Speaker 11 (52:01):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Andrew Bowlin or whatever his name is, that went on
Patrick bad David a couple of weeks ago where he
said that anything Candas owns is saying about anything that
Charlie Kirk said about Israel or like any of that,
Like he didn't talk to Candace. He basically disavowed Candas.
That's all came out to be completely.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Live I prove that was a lie that she was
there in.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
May, and he's he's on the board of Turning Point USA.
So they're they're doing damage controlled the best they possibly can.
And there's a reason for that because they know that, like,
for example, if this Israel thing gets out of hand,
they're going to lose a lot of money and a
lot of donors.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Well, and let's I don't know if we're going to
talk about the text messages, what actually was we are? Yeah,
we are okay, because I was gonna say it's all
about Tucker going on to Turning Point, Yeah, and that
he was thinking about bringing Candace Owens on.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
And I but I did kind of find that fishy
that that was in the text message and here's Candace
exposing it.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Yeah, fishy about what?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Like, how do you what do you say that she's
exposing that he was going to bring candas on? You know?
It just it just it makes me feel I don't know.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Was the side I would it be on Candace's side?
This is literally this This was like messages and confidence
in a group message. So of course he's going to
expose this and I guess, yeah, it's against her. Yeah, Anyways,
let's listen to a little bit more of Candace.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
This person.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
Ever, first off, I'm not even inclined towards tech, but
also would have to be an absolute moron to try
to figure out how to manufacture text messages for the
purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued by
every person that was not in the chat. Like I'm
just like, hey, Josh Hammer received this message, I'd be
so dumb. But like I said, these people were desperate

(53:38):
for it not to be real because they've been lying
so hard about everything. There's been lying and they have
some egg on their face now and reality hit them
pretty quickly. This morning, when Andrew Corvett, Turning Points spokesperson,
confirmed that the messages were in fact real, he did
this on the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
And actually, I don't think it's.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Dramatic to state that this maybe the first respectable measure
taken by Turning Point USA executives since the passing of
Charlie Kirk, like the first respectable response. And yeah, I
thought that that was I will I will compliment that
just the action of Andrew Colvett addressing it head on
instantly was good. So let's hear Andrew Colvett in his

(54:22):
own words.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
But I want to take the start of this show
to address some of the things that have been going
around on public, namely about a text a group text
chain that has been made known and released by Candie OANs.
And I just want to dress it head on, because
you know, that was a text grab, a screen grab
that I had shared with people, so it is authentic,

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and I want to go into it because I actually
am really excited that the truth is out there. I
first want to say the reason I have I didn't
share that screen grab publicly is because it was a
private It was a private exchange, and I felt like
it didn't necessarily comport with things that were already public.
I wanted to not betray my friends trust in that way.

(55:08):
But I did share it with some people in government
because it happened really quick. It was you know, it
took thirty three hours for authorities to get their suspect.
And in that first in those first moments, we wanted
no stone unturned, We wanted to leave nothing unturned.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
So I shared it with a few people.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
Don't know where it went from there, apparently, but here
we are so one of the reasons, Blake that I'm
glad to have this now public. It was not mine
to share publicly. But you know, one of the criticisms
we've been we've received is that we don't care. We're
not investigating every lead, we're not looking under every stone,

(55:46):
and that somehow we're just like you know, sweeping things
under the rug. And when I say that we want
justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean it,
and no stone unturned. I mean, I don't know if
you want to chime in on that part alone, but
I have more to say.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (56:01):
So it has been so frustrating how people blow up
about this, and we've stated, I've certainly stated publicly. The
reason I haven't waited on things is I am an
eyewitness to events, and they've said, don't comment on things
because anything you say can mess that up. I don't
want to mess up any trial for the person who
did this.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
That's a thousand percent right. And I will say I
wasn't an eyewitness.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
I was not there.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
I flew to Utah immediately to be with the family
and the team.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
But I was not an eyewitness. So there's that.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
But I am aware that in my role as spokesman
for Turning Point USA, which is another hat. I wear
the things I say. I'm cognizant of the fact that
things I say could negatively impact an ongoing investigation. All right,
But I will weigh in specifically on this issue of
visual because I know there's a lot of fascination, and
I just want to say that, you know, we have

(56:57):
to let free speech be our north star here, Okay,
Charlie was adamantly free speech, and I am not personally
going to impugne anybody's character who is asking questions and
looking for answers, all right, And I will say that
that text chain is consistent with public frustrations that he
voiced many times. And I know, Blake, you were in

(57:18):
the trenches on a lot of this stuff because we
were workshopping how we were going to do the tour
and what we was going.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
You know, he's going to.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Get asked about Israel, what he's going to say, And
this is consistent with things that he told his friends
people that are you know, in the in the water
Wider movement about his wrestle that he was going. And
so I just want to say, like, what is the
truth about the way Charlie felt about Israel. Well, it's
complicated and it's nuanced, and it was a wrestle that
was going on for months, and it's probably somewhere between

(57:46):
the BB letter and the text.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
So what do we think?

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Okay, obviously I want to pause because I guess we
got to quickly get to the actual text that they're
referring to because I won. I don't think Candace covers this.
But Charlie Kirk says, just lost another huge Jewish donor
two million a year because we want canceled. Tucker, I'm
thinking of inviting Candace. Someone in the chat, which we
don't know who that person was, says Uugh. Charlie Kirk says,

(58:16):
Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot
and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no
choice but to leave the pro Israel cause. And then
someone said, please don't invite Candace. That might feel good
short term, but it's not good long term in my opinion.
Like all groups, you're going to get wide variety of opinions.
That nasty free will thing that God bestowed on us

(58:38):
makes life frustrating at times. So this was essentially the
text messages. He says, I'm pretty much done, can't do
the pro Israel stuff anymore, and I'm not going to
be blackmailed by Israel.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
And by the way, I want to mention too that
when Tucker was coming on, Charlie Kirk did tell Tucker,
do not hold back. Say whatever you need to say,
what you want to say, don't hold back, because this
is what I am preaching about is freedom of speech,
no matter whose side you're on.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Yeah, and we got to remember, like we gotta we
gotta quit. We gotta quit categorizing Charlie Kirk as pro
Israel and start categorizing Charlie Kirk as who he was,
which was Christian. Okay, I mean, I just want to
make something very very very abundantly clear. Charlie Kirk was

(59:28):
not Jewish, he was not from Israel, he didn't live
in Israel. He visited Israel many times, a couple of times.
I believe he did all the regular things that people do,
like if you're in Congress or sining or whatever, you
go touch the wall, put a yamica on, I think
is what it's called. Is it yamica? Chris Chad Well, No,

(59:48):
but you do all those things, and then they take
pictures of you when they.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Study yamaka on if you're not Jewish.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Well, I think no, I mean, well, I don't know.
You better ask some of the congress people and the
senators or do that.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
But I think that only if you're Jewish you're supposed
to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Well, I don't know, I don't know, but all I
know is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
The yamaka is to shield your head from God, to
cover it up or something.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Okay, well either way. But what I'm saying is that
the number one thing we have to take away from
this is instead of the argument of how pro Israel
Charlie was, we have to remember that Charlie was one
hundred percent if it could be two hundred percent. He
was pro Jesus and he was literally picking up the Bible,
he was picking up the Word, he was picking up

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the gospel that Jesus commanded all of Christians to do
and go out and speak even in the face of death.
And that's what Charlie Kirk did. And literally that's what
ended Charlie Kirk's life. It was because of his faith
and his loyalty to Jesus Christ, not Israel. So I
just want to make something very clear just about that
this is not about the argument of how pro Israel

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was Charlie Kirk. The reality is is that we should
be talking about how pro Christian, how pro Jesus, how
pro that everything that Charlie Kirk did, he was guided
by Jesus Christ. That is what we should be talking about.
But instead we're talking about how pro Israel was Charlie
and pro how anti Israel was he, And that just
pisces me off because there're two different religions. There is

(01:01:14):
a religion that believes in Jesus as a savior and
there is one that does not. And that's the way
it is. And Charlie was the one that believed in
Jesus Christ as the savior of all people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
But it is interesting when he got shot, because everybody
was looking up. What was his last words when he
got shot. He was talking about transsexual shootings. Yeah, and
he was talking I think about gang.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Related that was like gang something yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, And they were talking about shootings and a lot
of people were reading into that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
What I will say too is that you know, there's
a video of the last moments of Charlie Kirk where
as he falls to the ground. You got to think
of how much he was kind of losing blood and
all this stuff during his time. So likely a lot
of people say that, you know, he was likely probably
dead within a certain very short time, or at least

(01:02:05):
unconscious and and all that stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:02:06):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
You may not have your heart may have still been
beating up to a certain point, but he was not. Yeah,
you were not conscious. Probably didn't feel anything either, because
that quick loss of blood, you're gonna lose all of
your consciousness. And but there's that video out there that
it literally shows that his arm comes up and points.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
To the sky, Yeah, reaching to heaven.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Yeah. And that that's like one of the most that's
what that's that's that's something that really gets to me
when I see that video, and it's I think I'm
pretty positive that video has been confirmed real it's it
couldn't be anybody else's hand but his, and it was
literally him pointing to the sky. And so I'm just
sick of this argument about how pro Israel Charlie Kirk
was versus not. I think it's been pretty abundantly clear

(01:02:48):
what Charlie Kirk's stance was in the months leading up
to his assassination. So let's just move past that now
and let's listen to some more of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Canall And I think real quick too though he was
pro Israel for the most part. He had a lot
of Israel donors and a lot of Jewish donors that
were on his side. And like these texts come out
and say he started saying, no, you know, I'm America first,
and I'm not going to be bullied into protecting Israel

(01:03:18):
when I don't feel like that's what I should be doing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, all right, here you go.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
You can tell he's anxious, you can tell he's nervous
speaking about this. I am sure it was positively frantic
at Turning Point USA yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I am sure he had very little sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
And like I say, never the fun thing to be
the spokesperson and also to be involved in the story.
I can tell you right off the bat, he is
telling the truth. He was not the person who shared
that message with me. He also should know that he
was not the only person who sent that message and
sent messages around. So there are a lot circulating, some
videos that are circulating, and yeah, he's being honest about

(01:03:54):
that portion. I personally, as someone who knows Andrew Colby.
I want to for us how I feel I hold
it against him actually that he didn't share it with me.
He knew I've cried oed the phone with Andrew. He
knew how I was feeling. And then I went under
a very well, you could say a blitzkrieg, right, A

(01:04:16):
heavy bombardment from people who he knows hated Charlie, who
tried to stop Charlie. People who had no issues showing
up to his memorial, I mean, really grows stuff, who
were attacking me, and he could have at least provided
some cover.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Now, I'm not saying.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
That I need help, but sometimes it's nice to offer
somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth, right,
So I do want to say that. Also, I'm glad
that Andrew responded correctly, because I was going to say
this when Blake's like, well, you know, the investigation is ongoing.
That text meg just has nothing to do with an
investigation whatsoever. It has to do with the broader question
of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being hijacked

(01:04:56):
by Israel. I never stated that Israel killed Charlie. That
has been watching this investigative series.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
We've come up.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
I mean, there hasn't even been an Israeli name that's
popped up in this investigation. There's only been one Jewish
person I think that's popped up this far in this investigation,
which is George's in Decoy Boy. So they're just saying that,
they're just saying that. I just wanted to say that
he was under a tremendous amount of pressure now regarding
the other things that are circulating that have not been

(01:05:24):
publicized yet, and people should know that there is an
underground movement of truth tellers in this moment. Okay, there's
an underground movement of knights all around the world, from
mom sleuths to government employees like he said, to personal
assistants to Turning Point USA donors who are working together
to bring justice to Charlie. Because we don't like the

(01:05:46):
way this feels. You just like the way it feels
the vibes are off. I will respect even though obviously
that statement was prepared. I will respect the fact that
Andrew says what Charlie would have said. And for the
first time I feel that's been expressed that we have
to let free speech be our north Star. And I'm
not so sure that the people, some of the people

(01:06:07):
that are donating to Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Believe that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe that. Obviously,
we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
And that is what.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
I think is has been so frustrating, is that it
seems as though the executives would rather and I'm now
referring to Tyler Boyer impune the character of the people
who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would have done.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
So please all right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
So there you go. So, and we got some other
clips from that same show which we're going to fast
forward to those.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Sure you had a name, rid Well, I was going
to say, that's not the only Jewish person that was
named in all this. The first person she was talking
about was Bill Ackman, and that was in California.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
No, No, that's not that's not California. The Hampton's are
up in Northeast Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, sorry, Mswell be though,
maswebe California.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
It was Bill Hackman in the Hampton when they kind
of bombarded Charlie Kirk and they all were trying to
have I guess an intervention with him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
That's what they say.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
This is what's going to happen. This is the first
time Candas has brought up any Jewish names, So that's
not correct what she just said, because she brought up
Bill Ackman.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Yeah, and so with the whole intervention thing, we've not
confirmed nor denied that necessarily or not. We but like
other people, there have been people that have denied that's
what happened during that meeting. But we don't know because
I suspect maybe Cannas has some stuff about that or
someone does about that actual meet and what really went
down during that weekend that they brought Charlie kirkup Bill Ackman.

(01:07:39):
For those that do not know, he is like one
of the biggest Jewish donors in the world. I mean
when it comes to like the money that he's being
spent from Israel and all this stuff. Bill Ackman is
one of those billionaires that spend a lot of money.
He has a ton of influence in the APAC and
Israel lobby in the United States or America. So there
is that. I want to play this clip from Candas

(01:07:59):
as well, where she said that she sent a life
insurance policy to people that she trusted in case anything
more to happen to her based on her investigation in
this and I love.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
The fact that she sent one of them to Andrew Tate.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Yeah, well her and Andrew Tate, like they you know,
they've they've kind of went back with you know, she's
interviewed Andrew Andrews talked to her on his show, so
on and so forth. They, I guess developed a decent relationship.
And a lot of people believe that Andrew Tate has
been I guess you can say attacked because he is
a free thinker, a free speech person that has a

(01:08:32):
huge following. Although you know, don't get me wrong, if
you go back and watch and listen to some of
his stuff that he said in the past, it's not
hard to do that with Andrew Tate. That's a very
easy thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah. Well, I'm gonna say I still like Andrew Tait
even though he is a I don't want to say the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Word wrong misogynist.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Yes, I still like what he believes in because he
is a free thinker and he has a lot of
good points just so he does does yeah, he does.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
But Nick Fuinn does you know, as Kenna said, Candas
thinks Nick Win.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Is an agent, a fed. Yeah, and you really.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
Got to dive in your brain to figure out how
he would be. No, but he could be a fed
for the anti Israel lobby to get more support for Israel.
I think that's what some people have thought.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Well, it was being crazy because he was a Republican
and he was all gun home about Republican. But he
you remember when you really did not like him. He
was going against Trump, so heaven heavily, heavily. Yeah, do
you remember that?

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Yeah, well, I mean no, because it was leading up
to the election. He was saying, look, this is bad.
You know, you guys are being morons whatever, and I
was like, okay, So it seems like someone has put
him up to this kind of similar to kind of
how Ashion is doing now. But Trump did win. You know,
I don't know nickquin Tes. I don't is he being funded,
is he being paid? What I do know is when
he started asking questions, at least according to what we

(01:09:52):
all know, when he started asking questions about Israel is
when he got canceling ban on everything including banks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
And he's been asking about Israel for thirteen years and
it was refreshing to me when he came out and said, hey, listen,
I don't think this Charlie Kirk thing was Israel, and
let me tell you why. I was like, oh, okay,
maybe this guy does have some truth in him. Of course,
going to go against Israel just because he hates Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Okay, of course you said that. Of course sharing now
all of a sudden, like snick fun does. All right,
So here is cand of Owen's what she talks about
her life insurance policy liston.

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
Head this week and sent around a life insurance policy
of shorts of sorts, a package rather to people that
I trust, A package filled with text messages, emails, private communications, videos,
and private legal documents.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
So if anything happens to me, you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Will know exactly who it is that has been making
my life a living hell over the past couple of years.
People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to bankrupt
be in my family, that are threatening us to sue us.
Everything that Kanye said was so real. Okay, I'm now
at that point where you look back and you go, man,
Kanye was right. He was really saying something about what

(01:11:02):
it takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody
of your own soul. Just leave me alone. Let me
say what I believe in, You say what you believe
fight fair. Why do you always have to make this
threat to bankrupt people? And I want you to know
that those people, if anything happens to me, they have
my explicit permission to release it all denonated all, expose
all of these people in politics and in the movement

(01:11:25):
who behave like this behind the scenes. It's necessary and
I highly recommend every single person that is out there
as a platform and is going through things scared do
the same.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
We're doing it, Candice, even though we don't necessarily have
like people send this shit besides talking shit to us
because Ashon Forbes, I mean, well, we'll release that as
well if we need to. No, I'm kidding. And so
there's the other thing, right, So, Charlie Kirk was concerned
for his own life twenty four hours before he was assassinated,
and this is what Canda so Owen says as well.

(01:11:56):
Now there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Lot of one I know who that they is? Are
they damn is? And is it related to the text
messages that were late?

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
I don't know. That's a good question. Is it in
the same thread. That's what we do. That's what we
don't know. But what we do know is like some
of these people like Josh Hammer that was in that thread,
that knew Charlie kirk stance about what where he was
with Israel. Josh Hammer literally the day before can just
release these text messages. Unfortunately for Josh Hammer, he goes
on this or this podcast says no, Charlie Kirk was

(01:12:26):
to his dying day one hundred percent Israel. He didn't
question anything about Israel. He was this, he was that.
And Josh Hammer's like a big time, bigger up in
Turning Point USA. So obviously he was lying because he
was in the text message thread. This is how what
I want you guys to understand is that when people
like Josh Hammer and others go on big platforms and

(01:12:48):
they tell you for sure, listen to me, this is
the truth because I knew Charlie, I'm I'm involved in
Turning Point USA. And then twenty four hours later, oh
here you go, or like, oh well, you were a
complete liar. Now no one should believe anything that comes
out of your mouth whatsoever. And also Josh Hammer, was
it forty eight hours before Charlie kirkssassination or something like that.

(01:13:09):
He literally goes back to a post of Donald Trump
where Donald Trump said we should bring back public executions.
This post was from Donald Trump in two and thirteen,
thirteen or fourteen and so like. Forty eight hours before
Josh Hammer posted this tweet of what Donald Trump said
in thirteen or fourteen, and he retweeted it and quoted

(01:13:31):
it by saying, based like, you know, yeah, this is
a good tweet. So that's weird, right, I mean, very
strange anyways, But here is a Here's what Kenna said
about what Charlie feared twenty four hours before his death.

Speaker 7 (01:13:45):
I want to say one more thing, rather explosively. Three
the people told me off record. Two people who have
this in a written communication from Charlie, one who is
a turning point USA donor, and I would say very
much one of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
The white Knights in this.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that
he thought he was going to be killed. He told
these people, I think they're going to kill me. Okay,
he did not expressed that to me. So I am
telling you this based off the testimony of three people
and I'm saying this because I hope that these people
who I think are good will be inspired to come

(01:14:27):
forward with that. And again, those conversations I had were
off record. I honor that if I say it's off record,
it's days off record. But I'm hoping that watching what
I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising
across the world for people who want to know what
the heck happened on nine to ten, that you know,
they will be brave and they will say, yeah, Charlie

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did the day before he died think that he was
going to be killed, and maybe tell us who is they? Well,
for one cent for all, who is they? Who is
the day that he thought were going to kill him?

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
Yeah? So who is they? That is the question. And
by the way, who she's talking about is one of
these people that has the text message threads of when
Charlie Kirk said that, well, by the way, we do
actually have one thing that we actually have a connection
to and this whole thing so I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Well, there's a couple of things that we have absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Fill Lineman and then you know, and then this particular thing.
But when she says that there was a donor that
also has this text message from Charlie Kirk. And there
was I think two that has it in text or three,
but one of them was someone that wrote her a letter.
And I believe this is the person.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
She did not say this, but I believe this is
the person only because I know who this person is.
She actually says the name, and I don't know this
person personally, but I know someone that knows this person.
I guess you can say. And so I think this
is the person that actually has that text thread with
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
The brother's cousins.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
No, no, no, no, no, I thought you were about to say,
like I thought you were about to say something crazy.
But so here is Cande. Someone's reading this letter from
a donor, which I believe potentially this donor is the
person that actually has one of these text messages about
what Charlie Kirk said that he believes they are going

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to kill him. And only reason I believe that is
because I've talked to someone that thinks that, well, they
know this donor Number one and then number two, Yeah,
let's just leave it that. We'll We'll let you hear
what Canda says here.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
It's ironically this is the very donor that, so I
was just so I was happy, brought literal tears to
my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA don'ntort
that actually then unlocked a whole another level of donations
for Charlie Kirk through introductions that he made for Charlie

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and a donor who's it's ironically, this is the very
donor that when I said to Charlie, we need to
be in the UK, we need to be in the UK,
and he was like, well, I know somebody who I
can maybe helps up an event and we can start
Turning Point UK. And that event was one I first
laid eyes on George now when I spoke to him,
but when I actually first laid eyes on him, that
donor issued a public statement and I think he will

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be the first of many donors that might make a
public statement.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
And he made this statement in my favor.

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
This was written by him and his wife, two wonderful people,
John and Irena Mappin. I'm just going to read it
because I think these words don't just eloquently express how
I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express
how we are all feeling. Worldwide like I read this
and I said to myself, I couldn't have written this

(01:17:36):
better myself with all the time in the world. John
and Arena Wright, Charlie Kirk built turning Point USA on transparency,
free speech, and a relentless pursuit of truth. We are
witnessed to that if Kennis Owens had been assassinated, Charlie
would have torn apart every lie and devoted every working
day and night to uncovering the full truth. He would
not have trusted the authorities to deliver justice. He would

(01:17:58):
have demanded it from the rooftops. Charlie would not have
waited for the funeral or memorial to happen. He would
have gotten to work immediately. He would have worked night
and day to uncover exactly what had happened to his
great friend. Consider this, Charlie did not sleep for several
days and several nights just to ensure that JD. Vance
became the vice presidential nominee, And although that job was

(01:18:19):
supremely important for the country and its future, it was
still ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion. Kennics
is working to get to the truth of who killed
Charlie Kirk and why they did it. Charlie's execution is
an assassination with potentially far reaching political consequences for America
and the world. What we have seen so far Beggar's belief,
a crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days, and plenty

(01:18:43):
of evidence that simply does not add up this investigation,
and the truthful answer as to who was really responsible
for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of
the world will affect America's future, its collective soul and
conscience forever. The truth, when known, and we believe it
will be known, will have far reaching international consequences. The

(01:19:04):
very idea that someone could be convicted and could receive
the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow
of doubt or shred of uncertainty that they may not
be guilty of that crime, and that Christian souls would
tolerate that possibility, is anathema to all the teachings of Christ.
If there were circumstances where a suspect or someone's standing

(01:19:24):
trial for murder did not have a clean opportunity to
receive the very best and fairest legal representation to present
their case and defense to the world.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
It would have been a born to Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
It would go against every constitutional principle that he lived, fought,
and died for. Erica is in mourning. May God bless
her and her family. Please give her and her family
time to grief. Any civilized culture, Christian or otherwise allows
a grieving widow forty days of mourning to make peace
with the Lord and to respect the departed. Those people
who truly love her would gladly grant her all the

(01:19:54):
space she needs. We certainly do, but we are growing
rather sick and ashamed of seeing people crit size Candace
for doing her level best to get to the bottom
of and to the truth of what happened to Charlie
on that day. You don't have to agree with Cannas
in every subject, but she addresses on her shows to
acknowledge that much of what she is presenting on the
subject of Charlie's death is extremely concerning to America and

(01:20:14):
to the world, completely valid and very relevant to the investigation.
She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are
helping her in her search and her research. This is
a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before.
This is not nineteen sixty three, and boomers need to
get used to it. In our view, the official investigation
should be immediately ordered by the appropriate legal authority to

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proactively share everything they know with Candas and her selected team.
That is, if truth and real understanding of who decided
to assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective that
would go some way towards restoring public trust in the system.
It is our view that her actions are not just
the actions that any real friend would take for their friend.
They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism.

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Kansas's actions are service to the whole country and to
the world beyond that. They are truly providential, divinely inspired,
and metaphysical. There is a relationship between truth and all
living things. There is a relationship between truth and God.
Right now, turning point, USA is at a vital moment.

(01:21:19):
If we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression
of a young woman and a mother of four young children,
who is doing everything she can to help get to
the truth about who decided that her friend and fellow
freedom fighter Charlie had to die, they will lose the
country and the world and America will have lost one
of its greatest living patriots only to see those factors
against which he fought and died for when Kennus is

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extremely valid point that hers has so far been one
of the only public voices from Charlie's closest friends questioning
the absurdity of some of the communications regarding what happened
and demanding clarity is well made, and frankly, that point
alone is shocking to the world. We have been receiving
calls from senior Republicans and from Turning Point donors who

(01:22:01):
agree with her all last week, and they started up
again this week. They agree with Candice, but seeing the
attacks that she is experiencing, they are terrified to voice
their views publicly. Is that really where we are in
twenty twenty five? Few people following the matter believe the
official version the virgin version. A low minority believe that
the current suspect is guilty. That statistic alone is an

(01:22:23):
awful commentary on the state of the official investigation, the
world launch truth the world. Charlie and those who truly
loved him and knew his purposes certainly deserve justice, but
justice needs not just to be done. It needs to
be seen to be done justly. I want to read
that sentence again because it's very powerful. Justice needs not

(01:22:44):
just to be done, it needs to be seen to
be done justly. It must be truthful, it must be fair,
and it must be clean. If there are videos, show them,
If there is evidence, show it. The world is not
going to accept anything less. This is not about who
is right or wrong, or whose theory is correct. Kansas's
investigation is about actually getting to the truth, whatever that

(01:23:05):
truth is. If the current theory for the shooters truth
an okay, that is a lie that we need to know.
Every episode of Cannis's show since Charlie died or her
heart felt emotional tribute to her, exceptional journalism has been incredible,
and anyone who cares for the truth and who wants
to know who killed Charlie for real should watch every
episode in its sequence. The fact is that we are
being told as his friends, or simply as people who

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had never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination simply
does not make sense to the vast majority. It feels
like gaslighting. It feels like we are being lied to.
It is not hard to tell the truth to the
public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the
truth clearly, many extremely ethical people helped to build turning
point in all associated groups, turning point action and turning

(01:23:46):
point faith. Many of these people are existing and potential
future donors. We know many of them. Ethical people will
not stand for lies or injustice, either privately or publicly.
The existing and future donors who are friends of Charlie
and those he loved to deserve no less. But please
spare us the absurd and evil suppression of suggesting that

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Candice should not be doing exactly what she is doing.
She is doing no more and no less than what
her friend Charlie would have done for her. Her actions
are far more reasonable and experienceable, and an assassin's bullet
to the throat. Consider for a moment the evil of
possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with
the death penalty. We can only begin to imagine the

(01:24:27):
wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be if
an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination,
and what ill fortune would befall a Christian country and
the individuals that would allow this. In this sense, Christianity
and a leading Christian democracy are now on trial. There's

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a special place in eternity reserved for those who would
allow such an injustice. A Turning Point in Charlie left
in charge. If Turning Point in those who Charlie left
in charge failed to stay true to the principles and
purposes on which Charlie founded it and with which he
and Candace originally breathed life into it during its formative years,
then Turning Point will end up like MySpace. It will

(01:25:09):
become just one more ineffective and rather dull has been activity.
I believe that God has other plans for Charlie and
for his legacy. A cover up of the truth is not,
in my view, part of God's plans. I believe that
people of goodwill from all over the world will ensure
that keep going, Candace. Charlie is walking with you every
step of the way. He loves you deeply, and you

(01:25:29):
are right about your friendship with him. Never write any time,
through all the challenges that the political arena and life brought,
did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candas you
are an eternal cornerstone in his life and his legacy.
What a great friend you are being to him. We're
all witness to that, all of our love John and Arena. Oh,
I want to keep cry again. It's just like I
really needed it. I don't know, I just really needed it.

(01:25:50):
Like it's just I feel like I kind of went
through a process where I was going like in those
two weeks following, was any of it real? You know,
like when I expressed to you that I felt that
Charlie's life was like the Truman Show, and then I
know that's how you guys felt, because we were just
expecting a fight. We were just expecting a fight, and

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instead it seems like the very things that Charlie was
fighting lies, no matter what they were.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
I want to pause there because that video is pretty
much done, and that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Gave me goosebumps just to have that reaction from other people,
because I don't think everyone is against Candace. Like when
I follow Candace on Facebook and you know, I read
all the comments. That's what I like to do. I
get into the nitty gritty and there is a lot
of people supporting Canvas, and there is people out there,
but it's just like people like that that gives her

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the will to keep thriving, to find truth. And you know,
I never wanted to believe any of the I guess
receipts that she had, but I have to look at it,
and I have to look at it as truth. It
is truth. So we where do we go from here?
Those are true, which they have been proven to be true,
and she has so many other things. You know, we

(01:27:10):
got to dig down and find out the truth. Yeah,
and I think that she knows deep and down, deep
down inside what the truth is. I well, I don't know.
I feel like Candice thinks it's Israel, do you Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Probably? I mean, you know, it's one of those things
like if you're an investigator, like you just go towards
the evidence, right, I mean, like what is the evidence now?
Right now? The evidence is presented as Tyler Robinson. But
also there's just so much wrong with that evidence.

Speaker 6 (01:27:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Well, everybody's calling bs left and right, And I also
wanted to make this point because that just reminded me
when I said left and right. You know, I feel
like the left and the right everyone's corrupt. You know,
everything's corrupt based on money. Who's getting money is going
to be corrupt. They're going to be told what to say,
how to say it, when to act, how to act,

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That's what happens. And you know, this is a divide
right now in the Republicans as far as what you're saying,
the right and the woke right, whatever you want to
call woke versus you know, real right whatever. But it's
still a divide. But when I think about a divide,
thinking about a divide of the left and the right, also,

(01:28:21):
isn't this what they want? They want divides, Well, yeah,
they do, and they're still winning as long as they're dividing.
Is many people possible?

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
Well, they do. And the reality of this divide and
share your right. I mean, they absolutely want to divide,
But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't also, in in
really hardcore situations like this, be acceptable of being divided.
So so what I'm saying is is that when something
comes along this severe, this big, we got to be

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okay with being divided. And this is something that I
was thinking about even with Ashton, the Ashen thing. Ashton
is a friend, like you know, this is where I
draw the line and the reason why I draw the line, Ashton,
And I'll tell you this and I'm just kind of
speaking to you, and you guys can clip any of
this stuff, by the way, you want to post it
anywhere on the Internet, go ahead. We're probably not going
to We're gonna let this episode speak for yourself on

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our platforms. But if any of you want to clip
this and put it somewhere or whatever, fine do it.
But this is what pissed me off the most is
because when you read a message from a donor, which
I believe I know who this donor is and I
have a connection with this donor in particular, when you
read this and kind of and then also talking to

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someone literally last night that and what you guys have
to understand, like we're not just completely out of the
loop of like sources, like people that are really close
to Charlie Kirk and turn a point, USA and Bill
Lyman and just everybody. We're connected. We talked to people
on the phone. We literally talk for hours in some
cases on the phone with people that are highly connected
to people. We don't necessarily just blast it all the time.

(01:29:56):
We just don't do that. But what I will say
is that what I'm getting down the pipeline is that
Number one, Candace was never not Charlie Kirk's friend. I mean,
I want to make that very close.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
No, No, there's clips where he says Candace and I will
always be friends. We might not view everything exactly the same,
but that doesn't mean she's not my friend. And that's
the same thing that I was saying. Just because you
are on the left doesn't mean you're not my friend.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. But my point to this is,
like I had saw a couple of posts and I
think one or some ash and misfit patriots some of
these other people that said, oh, Candace is just dragging
Charlie's body around in tow just to give herself credibility.
She's grifting, She's grifting off of Charlie Kirk's death. No, no,

(01:30:45):
if anybody is grifting off of Charlie Kirk's death, it's
you assholes that are telling people like Candace Owens and
like whoever else that is questioning the narrative, especially people
that are close to Turning Point USA, that have had
connection and lineage with Turning Point USA, people like Candis
Owens that are actually friends with Charlie Kirk. A lot
of like most of you assholes out there that are

(01:31:08):
saying all this BS have never even spoke to Charlie Kirk.
Never even knew who Charlie Kirk, was never cared about
anything Charlie Kirk ever said at all. Candis Owens was invested.
She was invested into Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA.
She was invested into the movement. And it wasn't until
just so everybody understands, and I'm not I'm just saying,

(01:31:31):
this is the reality of what I'm saying. It wasn't
until the Daily Wire stuff happened. Candis Owens came out
Crisis King, she did her own thing. That's when what
I believe the donors, especially a certain section of donors
in Turning Point USA, started to go to Charlie Kirk
and say, all right, Charlie, sorry, bro, but you're not
allowed to talk to Candias anymore. You're not allowed to

(01:31:52):
talk to it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
And it's the same thing with Tucker. When Tucker started
seeing and looking towards Israel as a potential threat of America,
is when they stop saying, you know, look, you can't
have Tucker. Yeah, come and be a speaker.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
Yeah. But what I'm saying is like, it's just it
blows my mind that there are people out there that
are calling Candice Owens that was Charlie Kirk's friend for
a very long time, help actually build turning point USA.
I mean, I don't know if people understand and realize
how big Candis Owans has been for the amount of
time she's been big. I mean it's been a long time.

(01:32:31):
You know, like if Candis Owans died tomorrow, you know, yes,
right now, Charlie Kirk is a martyr. He is his
name is huge. Everybody is like, oh my god, think
about how big Charlie Kirk was. But we don't understand
how big candisce Owans has been has been in this space,
especially as as a young black woman that has spoke
out Republicans. It's a Republican conservative, a christ follower that

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has spoke out and went against the grain, win against
the narrative, no matter whether that she felt like it
was going to call her career, her livelihood bankruptcy. We've
been through We've been through some of that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Oh yeah, and she even spoke out about Black Lives
Matter for example. Yeah, I mean as a black woman.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
But Charlie, and that's the thing the donor said, Charlie
would have done everything to expose who killed Candie Owens.
If that would have happened when he was alive, he
would have and I know he would have. There's no
question to me Charlie would have been Charlie if the
roles would have reversed, especially with Candie Owans coming out
especially hardcore against his roel whatever, and especially considering the

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fact that you're talking now about everything that Charlie's been
saying six months, eight months leading up to when he
was killed. But just imagine Candis Owans was killed in
the same timeframe. Imagine what Charlie Kirk would have been doing.
I almost guarantee you he would have probably suspended a
lot of his college campus tours and all the stuff
he was doing to get to the bottom of who

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killed Candie Owens, and he would not have cared about
the backlash. And I almost also gear garantee that if
Charlie Kirk would have been doing the exact same thing
that Ken the Solons is doing, which he would have
believe that he would have been then called an anti Semite.
He would have been then attacked and criticized and ridiculed
by the same damn people that are on the internet
right now doing the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Well, anybody that goes against our government or any governments
is going to be attacked.

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Well not necessarily our gument. I mean we we've went
against our government. A lot of people win against our
government for a very long time and you can, but
we've been attacked. Like if you go against Trump, or
you go for Trump, or you go against Biden. I mean,
there's always.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
That political there's always going to be an attack.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
And then you also have divide of Israel, you have
to divide of even Russia, Ukraine. You have a divide
of all of that stuff. But then what you have
to start thinking about is like who is the most powerful,
who is the most important, who has the most influenced.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
You got to think about the spider web and who's
in the middle.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Yes, but also who is going to control the information
right and who controls the information is the most important thing.
There's a reason why North Korea, where the world basically says, hey,
they are a communist dictatorship, totalitarian state, because they have
state media. You're not allowed to do anything outside of
what North Korea government tells you. And that's the only

(01:35:11):
thing you know. You don't have social media, you don't
have the you don't even have access to the outside
world as North Korean. So the reason why that this
and what Cannas is doing right now is the most
important is that do we ever want to be so
sheltered in our own government, in our own country to
say that we don't know anything else that's going on
besides what the government is telling us. No, And so

(01:35:32):
these people on social media out there, like Ashton Forbes,
like Mispit Patriot, like so many others that are saying,
you guys are low iq complete more on conspiratards. You
guys are the problem. It's not people like canis Owans
and people like us and people like so many that
are trying to get to the bottom of things when

(01:35:53):
stuff doesn't make sense. And it's not like canis Owans
is lying. It's not like she's you know, they all
said she was lying when she said, hey have text
messages by the way, that says he disavowed Israel basically
forty eight hours before. And they said, oh, she's she
made up the text. Well, it comes to find out no,
she didn't. So then what happens if she releases these
text messages, which, by the way, this donor that she read.

(01:36:14):
Whether she did, she didn't say it or not, but
I'm just telling you this donor that she read has
text messages from Charlie Kirk that says she didn't say it.
She did, no, she said there are donors that have it,
but she did not say it was this donor. But
what I'm saying is this donor I believe has these
text messages, very loyal friend to Candace and and and

(01:36:37):
the reason why, by the way, I'm okay, hold on,
hold on, I'm gonna give my speculation.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
I'm not going to say.

Speaker 5 (01:36:43):
I'm not going to say for sure that this donor
has text and the reason why Candas is saying that
she didn't say that this doner had text messes because
obviously she released her name and all this stuff. But
what I'm saying is is that this there is people
that have text me just that Charlie Kirk said they
are going to kill me twenty four hours prior to

(01:37:04):
his assassination. Okay, so let's think about this. I'm not
saying anything, not making speculation. I'm just giving you guys
a little bit of a roadmap, maybe or not. But
forty eight hours before he talked in this group message
about he dis about Israel completely, he has no choice
but to do this. People were backlashing on him and saying, no,
you cannot do this, do not at all. Don't allow

(01:37:28):
Candae and all this stuff. Josh Hammer then forty eight
hours also went and retweeted a post from Donald Trump
saying public execution should be needed from twenty thirteen Josh Hammer,
which also then said that Candice Owens is crazy basically
and that you know, Charlie Kirk was loyal to Israel
up into his dying day, which all come to find

(01:37:48):
out to be bullshit. And in twenty four hours after
he said all those text messes, in the text message thread,
he then says that I think they are going to
kill me. So do we think that Charlie Kirk was
referring to Transhooters? Was he gonna kill him? In that
text us is twenty four hours later, I don't know.
You guys decide, It's not for me to decide.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Well, And I want to say two things about that.
Number One, whatever it is is backfiring in somebody's face
because now the left and the right are aligning together
because we're all calling bullshit and that's a backfire.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Yeah, yeah, there is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
And number two when you come out with these receipts
and all you can say back is, oh, well they're
anti Semlit. I mean I'm even saying that, no, I
need proof. Show me your proof now, because she showed
her proof. Where is the proof? Don't just say they're
anti Semite? Show me the proof?

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
Yeah, what what.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Shows you that this wasn't this? Like she's coming out
and showing the proof. We need, you know, we need
the other side to come out and show the proof.
But more importantly, like I said, all this is doing
is backfiring because it is aligning the right and the
left together in some kind of a degree, and that
is worse for whoever's behind this. They don't want the

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left and the right to agree or align whatsoever. They
want division and there is a chance that we might
have a united stance on something.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, Cherry. I agree with that.
I agree with that, And that's why I just don't
understand some of these postlinacs. I don't understand some of
these influences Like what are you doing, bro? Like are
you desperately trying to ruin your own career like or
your own platform, like is that the thing? Or are
you dumb enough to actually take money from maybe the
government that wants you to shut the hell up? Like

(01:39:39):
It's one of the two, because there's no way that
some of these people are saying that things are saying
like no only thinking that that's true what they're saying.
There's just no way, and especially some of these people
that we believe are smart, There's just no way that
you do that. The one thing I will say closing
this is that we stand with kendesce Ellins. We stand
with truth, we stand with the investigations, we stand with

(01:40:02):
no matter what it is, conspiracy theories. The reason why
we stand with conspiracy theories is because if you look
at a track record of conspiracy theories, most of them
have turned out to be correct. And in the age
of information that we are in today, you have to
understand that we are in a place in the world
as of right now that we have an opportunity as

(01:40:23):
people to expose truth very fast, or at the very
least to hold people accountable that are trying to hide
the truth. And with that being said, there's never been
a time like there is now. But that's also why
I think there is a mass push for not only
influence or influence based on either foreign or domestic government,

(01:40:43):
but there's also a mass movement for mass surveillance and censorship.
There is this mass movement for AI control. There is
a mass movement for for example, TikTok just got bought
and most of these I hate to say it, but
they are Israeli Jewish buyers. You also have Larry Ellison
and other Jewish buyers that have bought CBS Paramount. They're

(01:41:05):
buying a lot of the mainstream media in the United States.
This is kind of a public thing, public facing thing,
because you know, we are no longer America. Doesn't matter.
You can argue, you can argue whether like how much
influence is Muslim like Middle Eastern Qatar or Israel. The
problem is that we're not arguing how much influence is

(01:41:27):
actually American anymore. By the way, whatever, I don't I
don't give a damn what it actually is a Qatar cutter,
but either way, But all I'm saying is is that
for the grifters out there that are trying to say
that people that are actually investigating conspiracy theories or Charlie
Kirk's assassination, Like we want actual answers that we should

(01:41:48):
all just now all of a sudden believe the government
for whatever reason, you are the grifters. It's not that
people that are actually caring about their friends such as
Charlie Kirk. That Canda so Owans was a very close
friend to Charlie Kirk for a very long time. That's
not a grifter. That's a friend. By the way, And
if you guys don't understand what a friend is, a
friend is supportive. A friend is someone that actually seeks

(01:42:10):
the truth for their friend, for their fellow man. That
is what a friend is. It is not to spread
lies and propaganda and everything else. And I think in
this world today in twenty twenty five, even with potentially
Turning Point, I don't know. We don't know everybody in
Turning Point. I think there may be some bad actors
in Turning Point. Seems like there's also probably some people

(01:42:31):
that are not allowed to speak or can't speak, and
then there's some people that want to speak and they're
doing their very best to reach out to certain people
that have a platform to expose truth. But the reality
of the at the end of the day, what matters
is the truth, and if you're out there completely blatantly
what I believe, lying and propagandizing something such as Charlie

(01:42:55):
Kirk's assassination to try to say that there should never
be questions about who is involved or who the actors
may be, or calling people low IQ or cult members,
or they're crazy, they're grifters. They're carrying Charlie Kirk's body

(01:43:16):
around in tow.

Speaker 12 (01:43:18):
That makes me sick, It really does, and it pisses
me the hell off because, as I said twenty minutes ago,
it's not about how pro Israel Charlie Kirk was.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
It's not about how anti Israel Charlie Kirk was. It
is literally about how pro Christian Charlie Kirk was. It
is about how much he loved Jesus and how much
he tried to spread the message of Jesus Christ in
love and all of that, and he tried to wake
up the gen Z, he tried to wake up the
young people. And yes, the reality is that he did

(01:43:54):
get assassinated for that, and I don't know who, at
the end of the day was the culprits behind who
killed Charlie Kirk. But I am very sick of hearing
the bs on social media, and especially people that want
to try to somehow lump us into that is crazy.
So anyways, as I said, we will absolutely have Ashton

(01:44:18):
Fordes back on the show if he wants to come
on and debate any of the things I've said tonight.
But other than that, no, not going to because I
want to honor Charlie Kirk's legacy and the best way
I possibly can. And I think, honestly, the only person
one of the biggest names I guess or talking heads

(01:44:38):
right now that is honoring Charlie Kirk's legacy is Canae Owans.
So that's all I'll say. I'm gonna leave it with
this that way by NHBD nick until next time. Guys,
we love you, Listen, Stay loyal to the truth, stay
loyal to God, love, peace out.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Get the music. But I'm on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Put my bones on the bit.

Speaker 11 (01:45:12):
Out of sight, out of mind, I'm away, out of sight,
out of mind, a way out of sight, out of mine.
I'm away, out of sight, out of mind.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
I'm aware.

Speaker 7 (01:45:25):
I'm even blind to you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
Yeah, all these suckers, all these buzzies, all these leeches
now I'm not blind to you. Yeah, get you done
a week on run on as we come up from
my music.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I just make ten in a week, I can make.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Ten in a day.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
I'ma wake up on the beach. I'm wake up in it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:47):
I know being with, I may fly with.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
I'm gonna get rich your pain. I'm gonna get rich.
You say, hey, I'm gonna get rich your pains. Let
me leave my saying bad. Little bitty brains ran about
the bank like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
A rod row.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Take care of my mommy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
I know she pried me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
A case.

Speaker 13 (01:46:11):
Get them.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
Taken bread on the way.

Speaker 8 (01:46:18):
Put my brother.

Speaker 11 (01:46:22):
Out of sight, out of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
I'm are out of sight, out of my.

Speaker 11 (01:46:29):
Out of sight, out of mind, out of sight, out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
Of anything I do, I do it, I do it.
Ain't nothing to just do it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Do it just because I influenced the bank on flow. Yeah, fluence,
I go, don't go stupid gone. But the whole house
still roof your roof while you're talking back about me, Yeah,
look at too physical if saying that shoot is there
now talking to my Badget Tommy down.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
I just want to just trying moments now wearing bands
and kepping down money on the front. Make it about
money and save at six roun my kids and make
it out everybody case.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
Get the magasin take mine right on my way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Oh my b b.

Speaker 11 (01:47:16):
B out of sight out of mine. I'm alwady out
of sight out of mine. How a way out of
sight out of mine. I'm a ready out of sight
out of mine.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
Am I wad

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