Charlie Kirk Assassination: New Evidence Emerges | Grand Blanc Mormon Church Shooting & Southport NC Attack - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello, and welcome to Investigator podcast. I'm your host, shot
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry on tonight's episode. Over the
past forty eight hours, two communities have been shattered by
incomprehensible violence and a third remains consumed by questions. After
a shocking political assassination. In Grahamlock, Michigan, congregants gathered at
the Mormon Church for worship, only to face hoorror when

(00:45):
forty year old Thomas Jacob Sandford, a former marine, drove
his truck into the building, opened fire, and set the
church ablaze. Four worshipers were killed, eight more wounded, and
Samford himself was shot dead by police and then not
far behind. In Southport, North Carolina, this seaside calm was
shattered when the shooter, later identified as Nigel Edge of
Oak Island, opened buyer from a boat into the waterfront

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bar crowd. Three people war killed, five more injured, and
authorities believe the attack was highly premeditated and targeted. Meanwhile,
the nation is still relling from the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The officially arrested suspect, twenty two year old Tyler Robinson,
has become the focus of growing skepticism. Commentator Canis Owens
has stoked news theories claiming Robinson was framed, that the

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federal narrative is a lie, and she's also raising questions
about the evidence and motive, and so tonight, as we
confront these recent tragedies, we must ask what connects these,
if anything at all, and what do the mysteries they
leave behind tell us about violence, political division, and fragility
of public safety in our time. Let's begin the conversation. Guys,
welcome to the show. It is September the twenty ninth,

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twenty twenty five, and there has been so much going on.
We didn't exactly know how to do this episode. I
gotta be honest with you. We didn't know whether to
talk about maybe some of the new theories or evidence
around the Charlie Kirk assassination. We did not know whether
to talk about the Southboart shooting, whether to talk about
the Grand Blanc shooting. And so what we figure we'll
do And this may be a little bit longer of

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an episode, which so many of you always say that
we should be doing longer episodes. So here you go,
because there's so much to go through, Guys, I mean
from the Southport shooting, which was a marine, to the
grand Blanc shooting, which was also a marine. And the
reason I say a marine not necessarily current marine, but
once a marine, always marine. If you ask any marine that,

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they will tell you that. And so it's very interesting,
like why two marines, two former marines, two veterans that
have served our country within a twenty four hour time
period would go on a mass killing spree. It just
doesn't make a lot of sense. And as we get
into especially the Southport shooting the grand Blanc shooting, there's

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a lot of things that don't make a lot of sense. Obviously.
In the Southport incident, for example, they said that this
guy was crazy. Everybody that kind of knew him, his neighbors,
people that kept communicated with him or talked with him
at any given time, said, look, man, this Nigel guy
Nigel Edge that he changes name to anyway, at some
point in time, he is psycho. He is he thinks

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the government's after him. He thinks they've been planning stuff
in his brain. They trafficked him. At some point in time.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I murdered him. There's a lot of stuff going on
with this guy.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
He believes also that like when he was in war,
that the US government intentionally was trying.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
To kill him. Yeah, so there's.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
A lot with this, right, So if you are into
conspiracy stuff, this might be something an episode that you
want to listen to, because although there's not a lot
of people talking about the Southport shooting, there's really not
a ton of people talking about the Grand Blanc shooting,
which we're going to talk about as well. But I
want to go ahead and get into the first article
from BBC of what we know about the Michigan church

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shooting arson attack. By the way, guys, for those that
do not know, we are doing most of our podcast
now video, but we will not usually release the full
video of these episodes until a couple of days later.
If you were watching this on video, we always released
our audio episodes first, and we also were going to
be releasing clips here and there of whatever we do.

(04:19):
But we are releasing them on YouTube and on Rumble.
We will sometimes release full episodes on X. One thing
I have figured out recently is since we've been doing
video especially, it's like Instagram. As I've told many of you,
we I think over I think it was last month
we had got about twenty million views on our videos.

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And there was one video I had posted that was
the sign language video that people were questioning about the
Charlie Kirk assassination. I posted that video. All I said
was on that video on Instagram was, Hey, what's to
deal with people making sign language behind Charlie Kirk right
before he is shot by allegedly Tyler Robinson. But as

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many of us know right now, there's a lot of
questions about this, although there are other people that are saying, look,
this is a Sylden shutcase. They have so much evidence
against him. You know, all the conspiracy theories are ridiculous.
But the reality of this shooting, this assassination with Charlie Kirk,
there's a lot that still doesn't make sense. And one
of the videos I post on Instagram, I just shared

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the video of these guys doing sign language behind Charlie
kirkle right before the shooting.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, it was like tactical.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
People are saying this tactical sign language what they use
for tactical things.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, it is. I mean, this is what military uses,
government contractors. And it just so also happens that Charlie
Kirk's security team may have been some type of Israeli's
security team or someone that has or people that had
worked with Israeli intelligence before. And we don't know this
for sure, but we do have a new letter that
we're going to read tonight from Charlie Kirk to I

(05:55):
guess what they say Israel or bebing at in Yahoo? Now?
Is this letter true or not? We don't know. Is
this a letter that Candice Owens was referencing when she said.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That, Hey BB, I'mschelle BB.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Why don't you read the entire letter, not just that
one little part? And I think the reason why bb
Netnyahu didn't want to read it is because although I
don't think this letter shows or says that Charlie Kirk
was going against Israel, I don't think that's the case.
I actually think it's kind of oddest.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, like, what the heck?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And it's also kind of like a propaganda plan actually
for Israel on American citizens. So we're going to talk
about that because that's very strange, and this is a
new it's a new narrative, it's kind of new evidence.
There's also some other videos out there that is showing
some strange things. That happen right about the time that
Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Also possibly bullet casings that may

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have hit the back of the tent area when he
was shot. Obviously, that's not possible unless you were within that,
within that tint, because a bullet case is not going
to hit you from a two hundred yard shot on
the top of a building at UVU or Utah Valley University.
If there's a bullet case and it hits anything, if
that's what it is, right, that's if that's what it is,

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then that's only gonna be done obviously because of someone
that is within that tent that pulled the trigger. And
so there is that video as well. We're gonna review that.
But before we do that, let's go ahead and get
into the article where we're gonna share the screen. And
so guys, by the way, on audio, when you're listening
as I'm trying to get stuff going, just bear with us.

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But this is what we know about the Michigan church shooting.
We're gonna go ahead and share this article. This is
what we know so far we have let's see here
we go. Investigators are searching for a motive after a
gunman opened fire at a Mormon church in Michigan and
set the building on fire, killing four people. Officials said

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the attack on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
day Saints in Grand Blanc, a town sixty miles northwest
of Detroit, happened during a Sunday service attended by hundreds
of people. They have named the suspect Thomas Jacob Sandford, forty,
from Burton, Michigan, who was killed by police soon after
the shooting, and speaking at a news conference on Monday,

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officials said that the incident was a targeted act of violence,
but said they had not yet asserted a Sandford's motive.
So here's how the attack unfolded. Officials have not named
the four people who were killed in the shooting or
the eight others who were injured, including one who was
in critical condition, but Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer urged residents
not to speculate about the motive as officials conducted their investigation. Now,

(08:35):
for those who don't remember who old Gretchen Whitmer is,
she's the girl that basically lied and said that there
was a kidnapping plot on her and it was Maga
so if you guys do not remember any of that,
it pretty much turned out it was all complete bs.
It was not true. It was all something to attack MAGA,
attack the right, and they completely blew that out of

(08:59):
thin air. And they even had trials about this, where
you know, these guys were literally devastated by what had
happened to them because of political rhetoric. And so just
just a frame who Gretchen Whitmer is, That's who she is,
and so quotes speculation is unhelpful and can be downright dangerous.
So I ask people to lower the temperature of the rhetoric,

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she said. The shootings began at around ten thirty Easterners
Standard time on Sunday, when a gunman crashed his vehicle
into the building and then began shooting at congregates. One
man told CBS News that he and others went outside
the church after hearing a loud boom of the vehicle
crash before seeing the suspect begin to fire a weapon
at the building. It was just so unexpected, he said.

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And Paul Kirby, he said, once I saw the gun
and started hearing him start shooting, it was just a
lot of fear. Soon after the shooters set the church
ablaze using gasoline, and another accelerant. Official said they also
found these suspects makeshift explosive devices, said James d An
agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives.

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Less than ten minutes after the shooting, the gunman died
in a shootout with police. Investigators said on Monday that
they had interviewed over one hundred victims and witnesses as
part of the investigation and spent the entire night processing
the scene of the crime. So here's what we know
about the suspect. According to BBC and other newsalads, the
officials have not given a mode of White House Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt told Fox News that Sanford was an

(10:26):
individual who hated people of the Mormon faith, which doesn't
make a lot of sense. I mean, there is a
video out there from a witness, Harry if correct me
if I'm wrong, Yeah, to where they said, I guess
he'd asked someone. He said, do you believe in Joseph Smith? Yeah, Jesus.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right before he even I think it was before he
even crashed. He was going around to the back and
he was asking people, do you believe in Jesus or
do you believe in Joseph Smith? And even if they
waited too long, he would just shoot them. Yeah, this
is what they said.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, so it's weird. So then you have this and so.
Samford told local outlet Clarkson News that he was a
sergeant in the Marines and was deployed to Fallujah in
Iraq in two thousand and seven. He said, I'm excited
to go, he told the newspaper. There are many changes
we are making in the Middle East. We are making progress.

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Samford had previous arrests were a burglary and operating a
vehicle while intoxicated. Official set on Monday, but not much
information is available about the suspects political beliefs, but his
Facebook profile features a photo of him in twenty nineteen
aarre in what appears to be assured promoting the reelection
of Donald Trump. In twenty twenty, and at Google street
View image of a property and link to Sanford also

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appears to show a pro Trump sign outside of the house.
Sanmford also appears to be a father of a son
who had serious health issues, according to the post from
his family in fundraising page. Sanford is from a suburb
of Flint of about thirty thousand people, just a few
miles away from Grand Blanc township.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
So, and I think some of this article is wrong
because when I was researching today was the exact opposite
it said f Trump in his yard.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well it didn't actually, So here's the thing about all
this stuff, right, guys, it's not to say that, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean, I mean, it's right or left, it doesn't
really matter either way. But I don't want anyone on
the right doing these awful acts or whatever. But what
did you read?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, what I'm saying is is that what we're seeing
is is there was some type of sign I guess
around this property that said stop. It didn't say stop Trump,
even though the right is desperately trying to kind of
scurry and say, hey, look there's a sign that was
kind of somewhat to the left of the pro Trump
sign that said stop. So it was like a kind
of a synonym of stop Trump. That's not really what

(12:42):
the sign was. He had a pro Trump sign up
he was it seems like a Trump supporter. I don't necessarily,
I mean, we don't know for sure his political background,
but at least we know that he likely was a
Trump support. Now that doesn't mean that he was idealistic
necessarily when it came to his pro Trump stancer mag
or any of this stuff. Right, the same way I
always say, and the same reason I have questioned the

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Charlie Kirk assassination to where you know, the media, the left,
everybody's wanting to frame Tyler Robinson, not frame, but kind
of make sure that everyone believes Tyler Robinson did this
on behalf of the left, on behalf of Democrats. Because
as I've said right now, and this is what I've
said before in the past, there is a political war
right now. You know, we have wars all over the world.

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We have wars in Israel and Gaza, we have Russia, Ukraine,
we have now what looks like Venezuela. I actually think
we're in a hot war with Venezuela. But the reality
of this is we have a political war. And I've
said this on other episodes before. I think that there
is a war because of someone is going to reign
control of the United States eventually. Now you might question

(13:47):
my reasoning behind this, but what my thought is just
just you know, if I'm in our telegram by the way,
join our telegram if you want to go and chat
with us live. We chat on there all the time.
We have an an awesome grip with people over there.
Know we're not planning stuff like Tyler Robinson is in
our telegram, but we do have a telegram where we
chat about upcoming episodes, episodes that we've done in the past.

(14:10):
People give us ideas we're actually about to have a
Bible study soon. We're going to be talking about the
Bible and God and all that stuff. But over on telegram,
one of the things we do discuss, and one of
the things I've said in telegram is regardless of whatever
side you're on, you know is coming to some type
of head in this country to where there are factions

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of both sides, whether it's Democrat or Republican, that do
not want the other side back in ever. And what
I mean by that is like a dictatorship, like a
totalitarian government of sorts. And the right and Republicans were
very worried about that. Actually with when Biden and Harris
was in only likely because of the fact that Biden

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was a vegetable almost he was seen now, he had dementia,
he had whatever was going on with By and he
had a lot of things going on, and everybody knew
that he wasn't making the decisions. And then you look
at Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris was doing interviews and she
laughed eighty percent of the time and said twenty percent
of words because she didn't know what to say. Now,

(15:14):
obviously Kamala Harris has come out and saying, hey, you
know what, this is what I look back on. I
wish I could have done something about this, and I
knew somewhat of this, and everyone's kind of comparing the
things she said in the book to actually what she
said in real life. But the reality is is that
there is a battle right now of who's actually going
to control our government, who's going to control the White House,

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and who's going to control the people of America going forward.
And this is not just a problem in America. This
is a problem with foreign nations. I believe. I think
foreign nations are lobbying to control America. They are lobbying
to control the people. Their narratives, their beliefs, they're everything.
And as I've said in the past, what I was

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very worried about with our election in twenty twenty twenty
twenty four. I guess twenty twenty four, I was worried
because I was like, damn, are we going to have
an election? Or are they going to could they possibly
still an election? And now it's like, well, that was
a landslide victory, and there are people out there to say, well,
there are factions of people that ensure that Trump won

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in twenty twenty four, and so what happens in twenty
twenty eight that's the big question. So the reason I'm
saying all of this is because there is a battle,
a complete battle of politics and political narratives right now
in this country, and I worry about twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Sherry, I do too, But I think with this battle
with right versus left, I don't even think it should
be that battle, yeah, because it doesn't really matter if
you're right or you're left. The real battle is the
people behind the scenes, is the elites, is the bureaucrats.
It's the people that we don't see in the forefront,
the people that we don't see on camera, and you know,

(16:57):
they're all playing us right or left is my opinion,
and if they keep us divided right versus left, then
they're winning the game.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, they're gonna win the game. I believe they are.
I mean, I think they were the most divided we've
ever been. I mean except for you know, if you
go to like Shane Gillis's comedy skit where he's like
where he's like, hey, guys, think we're pissed off at
each other nowadays? It's like, do you remember, like we
didn't have internet back in the day, And he's like,
do you remember the guys in the north is like
one day someone came to their house and he's like,

(17:29):
hey man, someone down there in the South talking shit.
They they want to he Oh, they're talking shit about me. Well,
I'm about to walk eight hundred miles and go shoot
in the face. You know. It's like what you know,
people talk shit to everybody all the time, right. But
it's like Shane Gillis was making a great point back
in the Civil War days, like people heard people heard
that people were talking shit, and they walked eight hundred

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miles with a gun and they're like, I'm gonna go
kill him. That's kind of the difference. Although we are
massively accelerating our rhetoric, we are massively accelerating, and I
don't think is necessarily us.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
I think.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I don't think it's the people. I think number one,
it is the deep state. I think it is intelligence,
and I think they're using bots to create the divide
and conversations and I think that goes in every single
witch direction. Now does that mean that conspiracies are not true? No, absolutely,
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
They are true.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
They are one. I mean, most conspiracies have been proven true.
We have not all of them.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
And that's the most crazy, And especially with the guy
on the boat, the Nigel guy, Nigel Edge, Yeah, Nigel Edge,
which he did change his name, and I did look
up his former name and it is from France because
I was just wondering, I'm like, oh my god, are
they going to blame this on Israel too? So I
had to look up his name and see and thank goodness,
he is not from Israel. If he is a he

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is a descendant of France. So hopefully no one's going
to blame these last shooting start talking about it on Israel.
But saying that is just crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, well let me let me play a video. So
Ryan Matta, he does a lot of great videos, a
lot of great work.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I lost a lot of his stuff last night.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Actually he does it on X, he did it on
Instagram and TikTok until Instagram Ticktalker were like, and it's
kind of what they're doing to us. So we literally
went from like thirty million views last month to I
don't know what it's going to be this month, but
I will show you, guys, is this screen shot of
whatever it is. It is definitely not going to be
thirty million. And it's all because of that Charlie Kirk
video where people were sign language and behind it, and

(19:25):
they banned us from everything. We can't do live videos
for a year, we can't make any money, which we
never did on Instagram anyway. That's all a bunch of bs.
They literally invited us to pay for a check mark
to be verified and then they basically stripped everything away
from us. That's how they're doing censorship now. They do
not want people talking.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, because there is still censorship no matter what platform
you're on, it doesn't matter, there's still going to be
There is no free speech anywhere, and that includes X.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Now that you're one hundred percent right, So here's Ryan
Matta on X and this is what he had to
say specifically about what he thinks these shootings are really
what they're really about, right? Is this a distraction? Is
this something that we just are not seen? Like why
did two marines just randomly start killing people? We don't know.

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But let's listen to what Ryan Matta has to say.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Here this tweet from Alex Jones and convince you why
you shouldn't be out raised about some random church in
Michigan being set on fire and a random gunman on
the loose when nobody's gonna give two shits about this
story in a week. Let me tell you how the
next couple of weeks are going to play out. So
the ratcheting up of the distractions to stop you from
focusing on Charlie Kirk are going to accelerate at a
rate that we've never seen before. I'm talking school shootings,
I'm talking buildings gonna lit on fire. I'm talking shootings.

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I'm talking public assassinations like the girl on the bus
getting step in the neck.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Bi's a boy who.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Comes to real up.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I fuck your.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Nuts because they're terrified of you having a moral victory.
So what is a moral victory? You remember bud Bite,
when everybody in America came together and we decided that
we're going to bankrupt bud Bite. We literally drove the
stock down by, like, I don't know, fifteen billion dollars
pretty much overnight. That's called the moral victory.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Jesus Days, Jesuit Days, Jesus Days.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
And that's what's happening here with the right and the
left coming together to stand united. We want the gosh
damn Epstein list, and we want to know what the
hell happened to Charlie Kirk. We're not gonna let this
story go. And canas Zones is getting ready to drop
some major alpha on Monday, and we're gonna blow this
story up like you've never seen before. The rotten, corrupt
FBI cash matellon is cover up with the Charlie Kirk assassination.
That shit's over. We're done buying the transputer slop. We're

(21:30):
done tracing chasing these gosh damn conspiracy theories. In the
next fucking shiny little red object, go blink blink blink.
Look over here, America, a church is on fire. People
are shot. No shit, Look at Chicago, there was ten
people shot. This weekend, nobody gave a shit. But now
magically ten people are shot at the church and we're
supposed to jump, And I get this is a big
fucking deal, don't get me wrong, But it's always a
big deal, and it's gonna nobody's gonna give two shits

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in a week. So what I'm trying to say is
the level of chaos that's going to come, they're going
to need another Hurricane Helen. That's what it's going to
be coming, because they need something so massive that it
can't take headlines for a day, right, because that's what
Alex Jones is going to do here at this story.
Maybe we get two or three days of headlines out
of it they catch the shoot or ooh wow, big deal.
That's not going to take away the distraction from the

(22:12):
Charlie Kirk. They need this story to go cold for
about a week to two weeks, and they need something
so big that it's going to take those headlines, like
a Maui fire or something that big, to kind of
bury this and let the dust settle, so people kind
of put their heads back in the sandy just go
oh yeah, whatever happened to that? Charlie Kirk investigation. That's
how it happens every goshdamn time. And let me show
you what else. I want to show you what America
goshdamn voted for. We voted for accountability. So do you
guys remember this video? Guys probably didn't. The mainstream media

(22:34):
didn't give two shits about this, and two weeks later
nobody cared about it. Fauci was sewing dead baby scalps
on the back of mice. Taxpayers were funding it. The
tissues had to be alive for the taxpayer experiments to
begin with. So the bigger question is where is Fauchi
getting dead babies from? Where these babies aboarded on purpose
for these horrific experiments that the taxpayers had no idea
they were funding.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Where they were taking the scalps of five month old
aboarded babies, and they were grafting them onto lab brown
and lab mice to see how much longer they could
keep them growing for. And you can actually see the
photographs in the published study of little baby scalps grafted
onto the backs of lab rats growing little baby hairs.
Those would have been the little hairs growing on the

(23:14):
heads of little infants in Pittsburgh. If they hadn't been
killed by abortion, and then stitched on the lab rats
for experimentation. This study was funded by a grant by
multiple grants from the NIAID office, which is run by
doctor Anthony Fauci. And when I was undercover planned PARENTID
abortion providers told me that they were the ones who
were supplying the aborted baby body parts for experiments at

(23:37):
the University of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
This story is so fricking sick. And this is what
I'm talking about. We voted for goshdamn accountability and where's
President Trump at?

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Yeah, he's whining and dining Bill Gates. So do you
really think that Fauci Bill Gates's boy? Another? Uh, it's
always them every single gosh damn time. What religion do
you think this bastard is?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
There?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
You go? It is as crazy. Ryan Maddam makes some
great points here, absolutely makes amazing points. And let me
just start with this, and I've said this on many episodes.
I'm gonna say it now. Q Andon got to talk
about QAnon for a minute because I think QAnon is
a government syop. I think QAnon, the entire movement, is

(24:20):
a coordinated effort on behalf of the United States government
to be able to water down and completely destroy conspiracy
theories in whole. They used it for January sixth. Keep
in mind, what did all media do during January sixth.
They blamed everything on QAnon. Look at Jake Chansley, the
QAnon Shaman, that's what they called him. He had the horns.

(24:41):
You saw him. We've had him on our podcast many times.
And you know, Jake, I got to say, over the
past couple of months has been Sam's in craziness. He's
been saying some absolute craziness on social media. But my
point to this is that QAnon, I believe, is a
narrative by intelligence that wants to completely and put into

(25:02):
I guess atmosphere that the sphere of conspiracy theories are
complete bs. And all you got to do is look
at QAnon and all the crazy stuff they said, like, Hey, Trump,
he's been controlling our government and military even when Biden
and Harris was in office. He has still all the
keys to the nuclear weapons and he is running the
country with RFK behind the scenes. And you know he's

(25:23):
gonna save us all. He's going to make massive arrest
on day one. This was all a narrative, this is
all a conspiracy theory because it was QAnon is actual
conspiracy theory agenda, and it is a ideological intelligence operation.
That is exactly what QAnon is. And I know that
many of you that listen to our podcast listen to
q on on. I mean, I can't even tell you

(25:45):
how many times do you guys have sent us posts
from QAnon and said, Hey, did you see this? Did
you see this? Trump is behind the scenes. He's going
to arrest Benjamin Neett Yahoo when he comes to the
White House. I mean, this, this stuff is still coming out.
But the reality of it is is that is taken
is taking your eyes off the prize. What is the prize? Well,
the prize is unity among people and it's not actually

(26:05):
accountability for the government. That is what they want. And
so when they splash out these narratives like QAnon and
everything they've said about Trump, Oh, he's actually behind the
scenes controlling the government. He's going to arrest everybody on
day one. That's just not the truth. It's just not
going to happen, guys. And I hate to say that
about QAnon, but I'm telling you, no one even to

(26:27):
this day, at least from my understanding, knows who create
a q onon.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I know, and you don't know who is responsible for
doing the videos.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you want to be.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I guess in the light and say hey, listen, this
is what's happening. I think you have to be a
reliable source. You can't just come on with a mask
and say this is what's going on. But obviously there's
so many people out there that believe in all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
And I try to look at everything and I look
at it with a grain of salt. For example, when
I was researched the North Carolina shooting this afternoon, I
saw a boat and it had Hebrew on a boat.
And they said, this was the dude's boat. It had
Hebrew on it. What does this mean?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And we're looking it up and I was like, what
the heck?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
And by the way, I got to say, you sent
it to your brother before you even checked sources. I said, Sherry,
that would be insane. Don't get me wrong. I mean
if this guy that shot up Southport had a boat
that had Hebrew riding on it, that would be insane.
And so I was like, automatically, like, where are we
seeing this from? Let me look at the account next

(27:33):
though it was and guess and guess what these accounts are.
They're maga accounts. They are accounts that don't have a
face on them, they don't have a lot of times
they're not even verified accounts. So you don't actually know
who these people are. And what I think these accounts
and people are are bot farms, and they are bought
farms to shift narratives or push narratives. And it might
even be if you want.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
To think about the fact that, as Sherry said, think
about the fact that they're trying to pin a boat
with Hebrew writing on the shooter to make it look
like Israel somehow.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Has something to do that, yeah, with the South lad shooting.
The reason why they want you to want the reason
why bot farms would do this is because they want
to destroy all the conspiracies with Israel, right, like, what
is the best way.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Or sad though? Is it the opposite?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Are they just trying to push it because there are
so many people on the left and the right now
that are beginning to hate Israel. And you know, I
told my brother today, you know, I'm worried about Israel
and their demise and what's going to happen to them
because there's so many people out there that are going
against Israel, and it's things like that, when you have

(28:45):
a boat with Hebrew on it, I'm like, oh gosh,
they're going to blame this on Israel too.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's like, I think you think about it differently than
I do.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
You think about like they're doing this on purpose, but yeah,
they're doing that on purpose, but we think of it
as different reasoning.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah. I think someone's behind a lot of the Israel
stuff I do, and I think I think there's twofold right.
You have one side of people that have been pushing narratives,
have been calling out Israel based on you know, the
response in Gaza. They've been calling out Israel because they say, hey,
you should not be able to kill sixty and seventy
thousand people. Not all of those are or civilians, but

(29:21):
a lot of those people are civilians. You should not
be able to do that if you are a religious country,
you are a Jewish country like Israel is. Even after
twelve hundred people were killed on October seventh, and most
people believe that October seventh, they gave a stand down
order on October seventh to say that six seven hours
that hamas flying literal.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And it wasn't just hamas, it was civilians still. It
was yeah, absolutely from Palestine.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
But either way, mostly they were wearing the headbands of
Hamas and all this stuff. You know, there were flying
paramotors across the border, right they literally moved the concert
further close or closer to the border. And then you
had the Jerusalem Post article that came out and said
Israel knew about this, and then on top of that,
with as surveilled as Israel is, you're telling me that

(30:08):
they didn't know about this attack prior, and yet somehow
Israeli soldiers did not show up within six to eight
hours of this attack happening to where these people could
just go and do whatever the hell they wanted to.
My point is is that there are factual things that
people should be calling out about Israel one hundred percent,
like we should not be just destroying an entire civilization

(30:31):
of people, essentially except for the people that somehow escape,
and we don't even know what's going to happen with
some of those people going forward, but we shouldn't be
doing that. Regardless that you know, and the same thing
goes with America nine to eleven. Nine to eleven happened,
over three thousand, four thousand people died. Building seven still
doesn't make sense. Nothing about nine eleven makes any sense.

(30:53):
And guess what we did. We went into Iraq, we
went into Afghanistan. We went into all of these places
and we started killing people. And by the way, by
the way, this connects nine to eleven, and all of
that stuff connects to the Southport shooter, especially because he
says a lot of things that other whistleblowers in the
military have said about what their role was in Afghanistan.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well that's why he went into military was after nine
to eleven exactly. But going back to Israel real quick,
how do we know what we're seeing is true? Like
it's so hard now to devise, defice our cipher, decipher,
to decipher what is true.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And what's not. Who do we believe?

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Who?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Who do we not believe? How do we know Israel
is going in and doing that? I mean, I do
see like awful videos.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
What do you mean how do we know? Do we
need a side by side video comparison of what what
DZA looked like before?

Speaker 9 (31:47):
Now?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well today for it, as a matter of fact, in
the White House BB and Trump meant today today and
they were talking about how many people they've actually evacuated
from these places. There's hundreds of thousands of people they're evacuating.
So I don't understand, you know, if they're evacuating all
these people, how these people are dying of hunger or

(32:10):
you know, we're just bombing them on purpose?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know what it's called propaganda because well, and.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's all propaganda, I think, And.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
This, I guess how much propaganda do you think that
this is?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
This is what I'm saying is propaganda on both sides.
And Hamas knew they went into this knowing they're going
to lose.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, because I mean, just like the almost everyone that
comes into a war or a battle, even if they
are the underdogs. Well we don't. Yeah he did, but
you're saying October seventh, but they were also baited. And
I don't want to get into the Israel Gaza thing,
because the Israel Gazza thing is, here's the reality. You
have Hamas, you have Gaza, you have the Palestinians. You

(32:50):
have to be there in that region and you have Israel.
You have one of the most powerful nations in the
entire world. Regardless of whatever people think, Israel is one
of the most competent and I guess you can say
power nations in the entire world intelligence weapons. They are
a nuclear arm state, although they technically shouldn't be. There's
so many things, and this battle between Palestine and this
region goes back for thousands of years, thousands of years.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
You look in the Bible, you see like the fighting
going on. Yeah, obviously, but today, you know, hopefully, is
a good day for America, a good day for Israel,
and a good day for the Palestinings if they will
accept the offers that are being told to them.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, well let me so before we get off this
Israel thing, you know. So, yes, Trump and bibing Net
and Yahoo met again in the White House for like
the ten millionth time over the past I don't know,
two months, and so Trump had kind of laid out
his thing of what, hey, here's what we need to do.
We're going to try to get to peace in between
Israel and Gaza.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Let me just stop you real quick.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Do you think that Trump wants peace in Ukraine and
Russia and peace in Israel and Palestine. Do you think
he wants peace or do you think there's something underlying
going on there.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think there's one hundred percent of something under underlining
going on in Israel.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I think as far as Trump's perspective, I.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Think Trump's completely controlled by Israel. And so outside of
Israel the Russia Ukraine situation, Trump really wants to dig
his heels in and figure this out and really get
that done. He doesn't want the thousands of lives that
are being lost because you know, every time you hear
Trump talk about this.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
So why would he lies lost in another place in
another region?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You got to ask your sorry, So you got to
ask yourself that, because that's that's the question, right if
Israel's doing it on the other side, which they have.
I mean, there's twelve hundred versus sixty or seventy thousand
in Palestine, and yet Trump doesn't really even mention that
in the press conference today. But yet he consistently and
all the time talks about the amount of lives that

(34:49):
have lost been lost between Russia and Ukraine. There's obviously
a difference because Russia and Ukraine don't control the United
States as much anymore Israel does. And regardless of what
people believe, they have to look at APAC, look at
the amount of money, look at the funding, look at
the politicians. If you're not funded by APAK, you're not
going to be elected, primarily, And that's just the way
it goes. Nick fun Tests said it, I think perfectly,

(35:11):
and I you know, I don't know for sure, but
Israel's likely the reason Trump was elected. I mean, that's
just the reality. Israel knew that they.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Were losing, then he's got to stay with Israel.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
But I to me, still the strongest ally that we
have in this world is Israel, and we've always been
strong allies, and I just don't think we should wipe
our hands completely. I think that Trump is doing a
very good job of trying to handle BB and keep
him under like his reign. If I if I could

(35:44):
say that, you know, he even back, he stops him
and says, no, you're not going to take over the
Gaza strip, You're not going to take over the West Bank.
And even BB today said no, we're not going to
do that. We're listening.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Say that, Yes you did, hold on, BB said at
the end of after Trump stopped talking. He said, if
Hamas doesn't agree with these uh with this still, ye,
then we're gonna basically do what we go.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Then they better like agree to something because everyone's getting killed.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you guys, regardless of
what Hamas says or does, they're not Israel and the
United States. They're going to come out and say Hamas
didn't agree, and they're going to go and destroy everything
even further.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Pray not.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I'm praying to God, you know, I am going to
pray that this is going to be a peaceful ending today, hopefully,
as they don't.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Have anything else to gain out of this.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Amas has nothing to gain to keep this war going.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You're exactly right. And that's why Hamas would not not
agree with whatever because they're already destroyed. They have nowhere
to live, they have nowhere to go.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Well, and their Hamas is the second and third string now,
I mean all their major leaders are dead.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah. But here's the thing about this, and we're gonna
move on.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
If you think that you're ever going to destroy Hamas,
it's not gonna happen. Because let me let me tell
you what Israel did in that region and really a
lot of people in the Middle East. They created more
what they call terrorists, They created more extremists because now
they look at all these people that have lost their brothers,
their sisters, their mothers, they're everybody. They have created likely

(37:19):
an entire new uprising, an entire new uprising against Israel.
They're never going to be able to stop the uprising
against Israel, especially after what just happened in Gaza, unless
they completely basically wipe out the Middle East. And then
you've got to ask yourself, well, would they be able
to ever possibly do that? Well, we've already bombed Iran,
would be two bombers, which we shouldn't have done. We've

(37:41):
already Israel has already bombed Katar, which they shouldn't have
absolutely done that. Like you're there, They're trying to almost
make as many enemies as possible.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They held terrorist groups as well.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okay, yeah, but terrorist groups. I mean, but you you
have to understand, and I'm just being logical, they also
think that we're terrorist. You know, when the US military
comes in and kills citizens and civilians. I don't know,
but what I'm saying is when they go and kill
civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan based on nine to eleven,
which if you believe the nine to eleven narrative completely, Yeah, yeah,
maybe we should have went And that.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Gets back to the shooter from Southport.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
As he said, it was a genocide and that was
one of the reasons why I think he went in
a little bit crazy. And I don't know, like I
was really researching like all his lawsuits, and we'll get
into that later, but I was researching everything he was
talking about, and I'm like, you know, I've heard other
military guys kind of say the same thing that was

(38:36):
happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran wherever that you know, there
was genocides and there's things that were happening behind the
scenes were not happening in media.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah. Well, let me just go real quick, and I'm
going to go back and forth. Right, I'm going to
go back and forth, but I'm going to read out
I went to his Facebook, right, this is let me
make sure I pulled this up correctly. All right, So
what I want to share now is Nigel Edges Facebook.
I want to share this and I want to show
you guys basically what his Facebook says, So we have

(39:13):
Nigel Edge. This is the shooter from Southport, North Carolina.
Some of his stuff over here, says author at published,
author of memoir Headshot, Betrayal of a Nation, works at
ancient ways in a modern world, metal sculpting, former captain
a game on fishing charters. He's single. Here's a picture
of him if you guys want to check it out.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, he looks a lot different than the captured to picture.
He looks a lot thinner in the picture that they
have him when.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
They're arrested him.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
But I just want to mention too that this guy
he authored his own book and the book was called
Headshot because when he was in Afghanistan he was shot
three times, three or four times, and he shows pictures
and channel show it on his Facebook of.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Where he was at.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I'm probably not going to show that back, Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, he shows.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Pictures of when he was intensive care and he was
shot all over his body. One was in his head.
He still has a bullet lodge in his head. But
what he is saying is it was from friendly fire
and not aggressors.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah. So Nigel Edge here says, all I've ever asked
for is freedom and what I have earned. That was
August twenty second, And it's interesting because he didn't really
post anything. He posted an updated his profile picture here
in September tenth. Down here he has a picture of
like a sunset obviously on the North Carolina coast or
somewhere looks like Oliver Raswor's freedom. Then he has this

(40:38):
kind of lawsuit here. So we'll pull up this lawsuit
as I go into what chat GBT says about this lawsuit.
So here's some case summary on this. This is the
actual law city posted that you guys see likely right
now this pulled up.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, this is his last petition of the lawsuit because
he went back and forth with them.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, so this is what it says based on a
document you provided. I put in AI put all the
plaintiff Nigel Mack's edge, defendant's novant health or novent helped
a doctor Tie and Teresa Long associated with Brunswick. Brunswick
Medical Center. Originally fought in Brunswick County Superior Court dismissed
involuntarily dismissal enter January twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, by

(41:18):
Judge Jason Disbrow. Appealed to the North Carolina Court of Appeals,
which also was dismissed. The planeff's main claim a medical
record tampering and LGBTQ code. The plane of alleges that
the inappropriate codes notations were added to his medical records,
which he interprets as a plan to promote suicide or
encourage harm, tied to allegedly misconduct my medical professionals and

(41:40):
the LGBTQ community. Human trafficking and abuse allegations. He claims
he has been a victim of human trafficking and mistreatment,
comparing his experiences to the Epstein scandal and the Abu
Garbide scandal, which we'll get into in just a bit.
Service dog poison. He alleges that his handicapped service dog
was poison as part of the broader mistreatment, judicial bias,

(42:04):
and gas lighting. He asserts that both the Superior Court
and the Court of Appeals denied motions without explanation, gaslighted him,
and mishandled his case. A default judgment issue, he argues
that defendant Teresa Longfeled to respond within the required time.
Planners request to the NC Supreme Court reversed the dismissal
and inner judgment in his favor inter summary judgment against

(42:26):
Novent Health and doctor tie based on overwhelming evidence. So
the core theme basically as Nigel Edge believes that the
doctors of Novent Health staff conspired with elements of LGBT
cub related targeting to sabotage his health and life, that
his medical record contained incriminated evidence of this, and that
the courts have mishandledor dismissed his attempts for justice due

(42:47):
to bias and corruption. He frames the matter as part
of a larger civil conspiracy involve an abuse, trafficking, and
misconduct and healthcare. So that's the first part, right, So
we'll also go down and look at some of his
other stuff that he had also said on his Facebook.
You also have this lawsuit and it says treason. This

(43:09):
is actually Nigel and what this lawsuit, I guess entails
is something else. Let's go to this. So here he's
talking about something a little bit different. This kind of
goes a little deeper, and this is kind of a
breakdown of this, so let me make sure this is

(43:30):
kind of a little bit more in depth. But Nigel
Max Edge versus United State of America Clarkson Police Department.
So this is who. Basically, he's in a lawsuit with
Clarkson Police Department, Oak Island Police Department, Brunswick County Sheriff's Office,
Hope for the Warriors, FBI a criminal Investigation Division in
US to Barnet of Justice, etc. This was a US

(43:51):
district Core Eastern District of North Carolina. Now his claims
is that treason betrayal. Plain alleges that the acttions by
US authorities, military investigations, and law enforcement rise to a
level of treason, including betrayal of American servicemen and systematic
targeting of him personally, human genocide and systematic abuse. The
filences claimed that there was a systematic genocide of American

(44:14):
serviceman disguised under the War on Terror, references to systematic
genocide of American citizens and mistreatment disguised as accidents or negligence,
targeted harassment, and entrapment. A plaintiff says that he was
targeted with hidden cameras, set ups, harassment, and even poison.
Claims his pet was killed and that he himself survived

(44:37):
multiple attempts on his life. Accusations against authorities, heavy accusations
against FBI CID, which is also Criminal Investigations Division and
unnamed agents, especially when referred to as mandal or Menadal
al Jamada accuses them of being white supremacist pedophiles operating
under LGBTQ code, his term to hide crimes civil conspiracy,

(45:00):
argues the government, and keep in mind, as this is
a guy that just shot up the Southport restaurant, plaintiff
argues the government created a conspiracy that deprived him of
human rights, due process, and justice. So planiff attaches what
he interprets as coded newspaper articles, handwritten notes, and IG
Inspector General complaints. So essentially saying here LGBTQ code theory,

(45:25):
pedophilia and trafficking, allegations, white supremacy and corruption, cover ups
and poison sounds crazy, right, It sounds batshit crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
It does.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
But the LBGT thing is from his parents. He feels like, Okay,
this is what I read into it, and I read
a lot of the documents. But he was saying that
he was born into a false family and that they
sex trafficked him.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Since he was little. This was even before he went
to war.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes, is what this is basic Because he's even suing
his parents.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, he's suing his parents. I mean, obviously this
guy has some issues, right.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Well, he's got a bullet stuck in his head. And
he also admits in these files that he has schizophrenia.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, he does. So I want to also share another
I want to share a little more of his stuff
because this is important. I mean, I know a lot
of you would like to know this, because this is
very important, very important stuff. Obviously, if anyone's going to
say conspiracy, well we got to know what the conspiracy is.
So we'll go back to his profile. So on down

(46:25):
he talks about Supreme Court. Baby, this is June twenty First,
we're going down the line. Obviously, this is a picture
of him on the beach. He has another picture of
him on the beach. He has another picture of him
on the beach at a different angle. He says, hey,
reminder to authorities, terrorist, pedophiles, rapist, human traffickers are bad people.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
And this is an ongoing thing on his Facebook if
you go way back, he's continually saying that daily.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah. So he has a video of him with a raccoon,
and then he has CID and Agent Mandel as a terrorist.
No wonder, he's not helping Okay, So this is also
very interesting. I want to read this part right here.
So if we go back real quick and we check
out what he actually says about this, right, So you

(47:09):
have case basis image Okay, here it is. I think
this is it. Let me make sure, yeah, this is it. Okay,
So I upload these dai and I said, hey, kind
of break this down image one and image one for
those that do not see. Let me let me actually
share this with you guys. Sin's were on video, So
you have mass shoot okay right here, sure, all right,
we're sharing. So I actually uploaded this image. This is

(47:32):
the image that we're talking about. It shows someone on
a box in some type of black drapery with a
black hood over them. Okay, that's the first image she shared.
And there's a bunch of writing above it. He also
shows some type of document and it has some some
redacted stuff on there. It has some writing above and below.

(47:53):
You also have some more writing on the third page. Okay.
So what it says here is that this is a screenshot,
likely from Wikipedia, about the Abu Grabib prisoner abuse scandal
during the Iraq War. Now mentioned US Army and CIA
human rights violations, including torture, humiliation and the killing of
Menidal al Jamadi, which is an Iraqi prisoner who died

(48:18):
in CIA custy in two thousand and three. And then
there's a famous photo shown of a detainee in a
hood standing on a box with wires attached, known as
the hooded man. And at the bottom someone has typed
in commentary killing which is him. I believe killing of
Mendale l Jamadi and the desecration of his body. HM
three Deal's body was blown up and urinated on similar

(48:41):
to mine. This looks like the author has drawn a
parallel between al Jamati's case and their own or someone
else's alleged abuse, specifically HM three Deal like a Navy
hospital corpseman third class, proclaiming mistreatment of US service members
that resembles torture of prisoners. MG two shows a burst
certificate for him which is his real name is Sean

(49:04):
d dB Voys Yeah, which is voids the text around
it tries to decode or reinterpret its name. It says
law aids killing of lab names seems like a wordplay
applying the legal system is being used to kill or
erase lab names, as he says. He mentions Albany and
New York and plays with the name d da vois

(49:24):
as deb Voi Samel, whatever the hell that means, and
then the bottom it claims agent Mandl is a terrorist
named Menadal al Jamatti, otherwise known as a going to
Jamati Menadal lab name killings laws going to AID lab
name killings. Basically they are connecting people's names phonetically or

(49:48):
symbolically to al Jamonti's death, and so he's suggesting that
some of the US service member like the plane iff
in this case, are being targeted for death or abuse
using these law AID slash lab name wordplay connect and the
imagtry is just a summary accusation that claims the agent
Mendel committed treason and genocide against US service members. Nigel Edge,

(50:09):
a named individual, has been nijustice and his rights under
the Eighth Amendment protection against Cruel and Unusual punishment were violated.
Nigel Edge was trafficked by US authorities and government attempted
to murder him, is what he's claiming, and frames Nigel
Edge as an innocent law biden citizen targeted by authorities.
So he's making a lot of claims here obviously.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Well, and can I just say what he was doing
too in his Facebook, because I did go through and
just kind of I didn't read and put all this
stuff in AI. I just kind of got a feel
of what was going on in his mind. And what
he was saying is when he was in Iraq, that
basically when he was there, that he was targeted by
friendly fire among side this other dude that was like

(50:52):
a Iraq guy that was actually murdered and they were
trying to murder him, but they thought he was dead,
but he was. He survived, and he had four bullet
wounds Oliver's body. One is still in his head. He
shows graphic pictures of him and I see you for
months and months and months. I think he was there
for a long long time. But he was saying that

(51:15):
what was going on in Iraq was not what we
are seeing.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, and so I'm about to show this actually,
So here we go. So here's the next post. He
has captors, he says, and I'm not going to show
you all of these images because some of them are graphics.
So this actually shows him with Kelly Pickler. He actually
invited Kelly Pickler to go to him to I think
it was what maybe the Marine Corps ball and she

(51:41):
actually accepted. Now, he suit Kelly Pickler for saying that
she was trying to kill him. Very strange, right, very
very weird. This guy was somehow the guy that got
Kelly Pickler to go to the ball with him. I
guess you can say now I want to also go quickly,
but I'm going to share the chat GBT and what
it says about all of these other images that he uploaded,

(52:04):
because he shared a lot of other images, and so
here's what he says about these. So it says, what
does this material saying I literally uploaded every single image,
And you guys, if you want to see some of
these images, and here's some of the images. This is
him at some type of I think that was with
Kelly Pickler. Maybe yeah, this shows like another video. It
shows a lot of weird stuff. This is him when

(52:26):
he was actually in I See you. I believe after
he was almost dead.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
He says that he said his ex wife was like
celebrating this and they're doing some hand signals here. Very
just very strange stuff. He also has some newspaper articles.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Now, these newspaper articles is where I think why he
was targeting North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
There's something cryptid with it.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
And this goes back to this sex trafficking thing that
he was accusing his parents of and he doesn't even
believe his parents are his parents.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, so what this material is saying. I uploaded all
the images and I could show you all the images,
but there some of them are pretty graphic. But the documents,
combining court filence, personal photos, annotated documents alled human trafficking
and abuse to playing with Nigel max Edge. Sean de
Bavois claims he was trafficked by his own family and
others connected to military and civilian institutions. He claims he
links his life experiences combat injuries, hospitalizations, documents, family names

(53:20):
to a larger conspiracy of LGBTQ, white supremacist pedophiles, military
experiences Iraq, Afghanistan, and Abu Good. He claims attempts on
his life were made during deployments, including poisoning, sabotage, being
targeted by snipers, nerve injuries, and abuse in hospitals. Voters
are presented of soldiers injuries and traumatic events framed as

(53:41):
evidence of attempts to murder him. A heavy use of
anagrams numerology pseudonyms, phonetics in interpreting names, numbers, and dates as
hidden code predicting suicide or murder is what he's saying.
There's a lot of things that kind of surrounded him.
He believes that were hidden code that he was either
going to be suicided or murder or murdered or something.

(54:02):
Examples interpreted his Social Security number, which we won't look
at see it coded meaning in public events, CMT awards,
NASDAC Bell news clippings, birth certificates, defendant, family acquaintances, community
members are accused of being complicent in trafficking, pedophilia and
attempted murder. Claims extend to connections with Jeffrey Epstein nine
eleven and global terrorism. And so obviously this is all

(54:26):
a bunch of crazy stuff. I mean, there's no question
that this is crazy. But then I wanted to kind
of go a little bit into this, right, He also
had another filing and I think this is the one. Yeah,
So he had another filing and.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Oh, he's tons of oh he has.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah. The plaintiff Nigel max Edge formerly Seandata Vois, and
defendant is Kelly Pickler, the country singer. This is when
he sued her and so claim Kelly Pickler committed a
hate crime and attempted murder during the CMA Awards. She's
supposedly poison him as part of a white supremacist pedophile plan.
Plaintiff says that he was traffic shot and urinated on

(55:06):
by fellow Marines and Iraq connecting to Abby Garbib includes
cryptic codes like lgbt q qt l g d q U.
It says t E LG large and that's D for
the D word introduced the idea that rearrange in letters
numbers reveals hidden meanings, and then he had palodromes, phonetics, imagery, dyslexia,

(55:32):
and numerisms. On page two, hope for Warriors becomes hope
he for warriors type in urination to abuse.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
And just real quick with the hope for warriors.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
I think he was actually doing volunteer work for them
at one time and then end up suing them.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, I mean, this is crazy. Social security card shows
a social Security number, fake berthertificate claims lbgt Q groups
made a fake birth certificate and suffering New York calling
them evils. The other word shand de devoice supposedly translates
into sean niece dead or going to see dead. His
life has been one long, targeted abuse campaign, more than

(56:06):
average hardship and tied to textbook human trafficking. So this
guy has obviously went crazy. But he wasn't a military, right,
I mean he was. He was in military. He's in
multiple battles. He did get wounded.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
He did not have to do mental like.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh yeah, did to go in absolutely.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Go into this military.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
To go in absolutely. But here's here's where it gets weird.
So obviously he said that it was his his shooting
and his massive injuries were due to friendly fire. He
started to blame a lot of that stuff on that.
And you know, one of the things I had looked
at is let me let me check something real quick,
all right. So what I also wanted to show here

(56:46):
was and I'm not gonna show it, I'm gonna talk
about it. But as you start hearing all the stuff
he's saying about, you know, the attempt to kill service
members in Afghanistan and Iraq and all these other places,
now I wanted to know, like, has there been any
other service members that said this or have said anything
like this? And there have been a number of US
service members, intelligence officers, and contractors who have made claims

(57:09):
in similar theme to what Nigel Mack's edge is a
legend in CORNAYI. They're not usually in the exact same
frameman or coad his style, but the themes of betrayal,
cover ups, treason, systematic abuse, the war on terror, they
all kind of sound eerily similar to some of what
he says. And one of those, a very notable one
was Pat Tillman. He was a former NFL player that
turned army ranger killed in Afghanistan in two thousand and four,

(57:33):
and so the official story said that he died in
combat against the Taliban, later revealed it was friendly fire,
and his family accused the military of a cover up,
saying officials knowingly lied to portray him as a hero
to boost war propaganda. And Tilman's brother and mother both
said his death was exploited and the truth was hidden
from service members and the American public. So this is
Pat Tillman himself. He left NFL to go fight in war.

(57:56):
A lot of people believe they coerced him to go
out there fighting this war and died by friendly fire,
and then they blew it up everywhere and everybody got
so patriotic behind Pat Tillman. Again, they're like, we got
to keep we we just got to keep screwing these
people up. We got to kill every single one of them.
And this was like kind of the fire behind Pat.
You know, the whole Pat Tillman thing.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
This was just one And this other guy, by the way,
had a purple heart, the one we're talking about, Yeah,
he had a purple heart during duty.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
By the way, he one hundred percent could be batshit crazy,
and he does sound like he is somewhat somehow batshit crazy.
He has been in war. I don't think he entered
war batshit crazy. I don't think he entered the military
batshit crazy. I do think that he was obviously injured heavily.
He was in ICU, he had damn near died.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
And he has a bullet stuck in his head still.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, so these are all facts. But something now, could
that be because of a traumatic brain injury? Is why
that he is alleging all this stuff And he's absolutely
went crazy off of this. But even if say, for example,
you have a traumatic brain injury and you know you
have fall for your country, you've done all these things,
you know, Is that a reason why you would just

(59:04):
start saying all this crazy outland as shit. Maybe I
don't know. But then you also have Jesse Macbeth, Iraq,
former Army private who claimed US soldiers were ordered to
commit atrocities against civilians in Iraq, mass killings, moss attacks. Now,
his credibility was later discredited due to exaggerations, but the
claim fed into existing concerns about US war crimes and

(59:27):
cover ups. You have Chelsea Manning in Iraq, US Army
intelligence analysts who leaked documents videos to WikiLeaks in twenty ten.
She revealed that the collateral murder video APACHE helicopter killing
civilians and journalists in Baghdad. She's the one that kind
of showed that and presented that she showed systematic cover
ups of civilian deaths and abusive US forces. Manning also
claimed that she exposed this because the US military was

(59:49):
lying to service members and the public about what was
really going on in Iraq. Now you have Abu Grabib,
which is the guy that he mentioned a prison abuse
in Iraq. Multiple U soldiers like Joe Darby, who first
blew the whistle, testified about the systematic torture, sexual abuse,
and dehumanization of Iraqi. Prisoners claimed higher level officials encouraged

(01:00:10):
or ignored it, and some whistleblowers said the scandal was
scapegoaded onto low level soldiers while leadership escaped accountability. And
then you have special Operations kill teams in Afghanistan. Members
of US army units accused the leadership of sanctionary sanctioning
illegal killings of civilians and stage and evidence or dropped weapons,
and the Manor District numbers twenty ten involved soldiers killing

(01:00:32):
Afghans for sport and keeping body parts part of trophies
port as trophies. Soldiers later testified that they were pressured
into silence or cover ups. Then you think about the
burn pits. Whistleblowers are rack Afghanistan. Thousands of veterans have
alleged that they were knownly exposed to toxic burn pits
where the military and incinerated waste including chemicals, plastics, medical waste,

(01:00:52):
even body parts, and many claimed the government knew that
this would cause long term health term cancers and respiory illnesses,
but this missed reports for years only recently has to
be a begun acknowledging responsibility and anything about Iraqi war.
Veterans against the war, which is iv AW held events
like the Winter Soldier Hearings two thousand and eight, where
dozens of veterans testified that they were ordered to commit

(01:01:15):
or cover up atrocities, civil civilian murders, systematic corruption. Many
claimed that they felt betrayed by the government and that
their wars were based on lies and servicemen were expendable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
So so I don't think he's all that bach not
very crazy. I think he has some craziness going on.
There's admissions that he has schizophrenia and other mental illnesses,
but with that combined and what he went through, and
I think he went on more than one term going.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Over the use or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
But I think there's a combination of stuff going on
here between mental illness and fact No.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I one hundred percent agree, And so there's a lot
of stuff going on right with this guy. And this
is Nigel Edge Southport shooter. Obviously, like why would you kill?
Innocence of billions is number one, But we also don't know,
like what the hell has been going on in his mind?
There's obviously zero excuse to kill innocent people, and it's
just sad that I guess This is kind of the state.
But it's also kind of weird that we had two

(01:02:13):
ex marines within twenty four hours. Yes, killing a bunch
of people, mass shootings.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
But I also wanted to mention with Nigel that his
last appeal, I guess was denied three months before the
shooting this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yes, three months.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, so his appeal was denied. He was pissed off.
He wanted revenge, you know, and this is something we said.
Now I do have another video real quick. I want
to play because I think this is interesting. This is
about the recent mass shootings. You know, the battle was underway.
They say, warriors, armor up, attack on Mormon Church, attack
on Christianity. America is the new Jerusalem, they say, Knights, templar, Vatican, Ethos, Vahalla,

(01:02:52):
p hexat, tattoos, Department of War, sabbatical, jubilee year at
the last Trump. You know, everything's going on, and then
you look at nij You look at Nigeria where there
are thousands and thousands of Christians being killed by what
they call radical Islamist or Muslims. I'm assuming that's who
they are. We don't exactly know, but that's what the

(01:03:12):
reports are showing, but you're literally having entire villages being
wiped out. You're having these people going in terrible. Yeah,
you're having these people going into churches where they're a
worshipmen Jesus Christ and they are coming in and destroying them.
They're killing him on every single level.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah. I saw a video last night. It was a
whole village. You could see it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
It was like the video person was down the hill
from the video and who was videoing up You could
see everyone out of the video just and they're coming
out of the village running down and all you years
shots everywhere and they're screaming and trying to take cover.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I mean it was really terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, it's bad. Well, I mean we've been seeing this
in Africa for a while, right, and I understand. You know,
Sharon and I were looking this up the other day.
It's like I've often wondered about, like the Islamic state
and all that. You know, we looked up like why
is the Islamic state or the Quran, like why is
it like violent? You know? And the thing about that
the Quran is, yes, it does have verses in there

(01:04:09):
that says kill all non believers. I mean that's essentially
what it says. It doesn't really scapegoat that term. It
doesn't really say you probably shouldn't do that now because
maybe we've got a new variation of this, maybe we're
not really thinking that, or we're better in that now
kind of like it's not like Christianity is not like
Jesus came along and was like, hey, you probably shouldn't
do this. There is a huge difference in Islam, but

(01:04:31):
not for all, and keep it in mind, I think
there are some that use those verses for their own
ideological benefit. I mean, they are using their religion for murder.
They are using their their religion for genocide. That's what
they are doing. Islamists have done this for a long time.
And I also believe there are other nations that do

(01:04:52):
this on their benefit. And I think really one of
the only nations that don't do this, not nations, but
just in general. People like if you believe in Jesus,
if you believe in that, like you don't believe you
should go kill people indiscriminately.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Oh well, in the United States of America is Christian based,
and we do that all the time. But here's the
thing yet, that's but That's what I'm saying. That's what
it all goes back to. It's the government.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
It's not the government.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Versus the people. And we've got to remember that. And
we also have to remember these religious beliefs. There are
religious beliefs, and there are extreme religious beliefs of all religions,
and we cannot just you know, point out those you know,
those are Muslims. We got to hate them because they
believe in killing Christians, or we hate these Jews because

(01:05:38):
of this, or you know, we hate Christians because of this.
There's extremist in everyday life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Yeah, but you doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
But keep in mind too. It's like, and I hate
to say this guys, and some people want I get
mad when I say this, but if we truly believe
that President Trump is a hardcore Christian, someone that really
defends Christianity and all this stuff, give me a break, bro.
I mean, come, no, hold.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
On, no is Jewish?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Okay, well, anyways, I'm not even going to go there
on this. But what I'm saying is is like I
don't think Trump is like a big church going devout
Christian or whoever. Oh no, you know, keep in mind,
not like a Baptist. No he's not. And you know,
so that goes back to the point of like, you know,
supposedly America has always kind of been this Christian nation.
There's literally there's all these laws and the stipulations put

(01:06:24):
in place for the US government for military, the Geneva Convention,
all this stuff. Because the world and the powers that
be or whoever, doesn't just trust America because they were
once a Christian nation to not go and kill people innocently,
because that's just not what happens. It does happen. Our
leaders do kill people innocently around the world. It happens
all the time. Russia does it, Ukraine does it, Israel

(01:06:47):
does it, everybody does it. But yes, you're one hundred
percent right, It doesn't mean that the people that are
underneath these regimes, underneath these government entities are bad people.
You know, it doesn't matter. Does that mean do you
agree with the Jewish religion if you're a Christian or
vice versa. No, it doesn't. But that's why I keep

(01:07:08):
going back to say, Benjamin Att, yeah, who does not
represent Israel. He shouldn't be there. I honestly think Benjamin Utt, yeah,
who they need to get him out of office. They
need to bring someone in that actually is going to
do right by the Jewish people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Well, I think there should be term limits on any
office around the world. Obviously, if Bibe has been a
dictator in office for twelve years, I think maybe his
time is up. Because of October seven, his time is extended.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I'm sweirt.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Yeah, I agree. Even look at Putin, you know how
many years has he been a dictator.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
In order to have a free world, you got to
have change.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, I agree. I want to play this next video
real quick. This is just talking about what I just said.
Attack on Mormon church. You know, this is kind of
like this girl framing it as a religious war. But
I do want to play this just so you can
kind of get an idea or just let us know
what you think.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
Today, the Mormon church in Michigan was attacked. There were
multiple victims. At least one person was unalived. The attacker
was also an alive. Homeland Security put a warning out
a few days ago warning churches that there was threats
on Christian churches, and then today this happens to a
Mormon church in Michigan.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
Christianity is under attack.

Speaker 10 (01:08:26):
You guys just like the Bible said, do you guys
remember the dream I told you I had it back
in twenty twenty three where we were going through this
roller coaster ride into a church. I was sitting next
to my friend and Jesus popped up right in between
me and my friend, and as we were heading into
the church, the roller coaster started going crazy, very turbulent,

(01:08:48):
and was going off reil in a crash right before
it was heading into the church. I remember not wanting
to look down because I didn't want to see how
bad my injuries were, because I knew they were going
to be bad, but I had no scratch on me.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
You guys, that crash was so bad.

Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
I knew I should have been dead, but I was
fine and my friend was fine. Nobody was hurt, okay,
but we had to go through the crash. Now, mind you,
we were heading into a church. I was raised Mormon.
My parents go to church, so we were going inside
the Mormon church when this catastrophe happened and my parents
ran up from the church, and I remember my dad

(01:09:26):
like being hysterical, and I would told him.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
I was like, Dad, we're okay, We're okay. Jesus was
with us.

Speaker 10 (01:09:31):
We're okay, this is just crazy, you guys, especially with
the Feast of Trumpets and everything that's happening with Charlie Kirk.
And we're in the Ten Days of Awe right now
after the Feast of trumpets. Now, all of what I'm
about to go into is all theories. It's just theories,
more conspiracy theories. But I'm kind of piecing things together,
so they're just my theories, you guys. I'm not saying

(01:09:53):
this is actually happening. If twenty twenty five is the
Jubilee year and we're in the ten Days of Awe,
and if Jubilee, if it's the Jubilee year and Jubilee
is announced.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
On the day of Atonement, that would be.

Speaker 10 (01:10:06):
October first through October second, and on a jubilee year,
if this is a sabbatical jubileear, the last trumpet would
be blown on Yam Kapur, which is the day of
Atonement October first through second, which coincides with the dead
in Christ will rise first and those who are alive
and remain will join them. Now, yesterday Trump posted this

(01:10:28):
video about medbeds. You guys, I haven't gone over that
because this is a whole conspiracy. I don't ever talk
about medbeds qfs. I've touched up a little bit about
foreign currency exchanges, especially the ZIM bonds, but I don't
want to go too much into that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
Because there's nothing that proves it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
But this video that Trump posted about medbeds, it's obvious
they took news clips, put an AI voice overlay on
these news clips and Trump's voice. But the fact doesn't
matter is Trump posted it to his truth Social account.
If you guys remember, Elon Musk kept saying that Trump's
truth Social should be called Trumpet. Instead, they had a

(01:11:09):
trumpet with Trump Trump's hair, and it says trumpet followed
the trumpet, and then Elon Musk says Trumpet is legit
a way better name for true social.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Kim Clement, you guys, prophesied that Trump will become a trumpet.

Speaker 10 (01:11:21):
I talk about First Thessalonians for sixteen and First Corinthians
fifteen fifty two. Trumpet of God signifies the moment Jesus
Christ descends from heaven with a shout and the voice
of an archangel, signaling the resurrection of the dead in
Christ and the subsequent catching up of the living to
meet him, while First Corinthians fifteen fifty two also mentions

(01:11:44):
the last trumpet for the resurrection and transformation. The trump
of God and First Thessalonians is directly linked to the
gathering of believers for the rapture, an event often associated
with the last trumpet, which if this is a sabbatical year,
the last trumpet would be blown on the day of Atonement,
which this year would be on October first or October second.

(01:12:07):
So my theory is, if Trump posted that post about
med bed and applying it to the end times prophesies,
what if the dead in Christ rising first is those
who have died for the Christian faith. Okay, I'm talking
about Charlie Kirk and you know whoever has to doure
through all of these attacks. Now we've got Trump posting

(01:12:30):
about med beds. I don't know, you guys, this is
just theories, Like how does this apply? Because when you
think about it and everything that we've told about, like
redemption centers, that also applies biblically to Christ saying that
your redemption draws near.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
I want to just touch up a little bit more.
On the day of atonement.

Speaker 10 (01:12:46):
Yam Kapur is the tenth day of Tissary at the
end of the ten days of Awe, between Rassashana and
yan Kappur. It is the most solemn day in the
Hebrew calendar, fasting prayer, repentance, and atonement for sin.

Speaker 6 (01:12:59):
Biblically, it is when.

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
The High Priest entered the Holy of Holies to sprinkle
blood on the mercy seat. Prophetically, it symbolizes final judgment
and cleansing of God's people, aligning with this close of
a cycle. If you guys think about what is going
on with you guys have seen that the Knights Templar
has been invited into the Vatican for the first time

(01:13:23):
in seven hundred years, like this is a whole spiritual war,
you guys. And the fact that the Pope is the
last pope before judgment, that's when judgment occurs. I'll show
you a video in a minute, but I want to
go over the last trumpet blast in the ten days
of Awe. During the days of oz shaffars are sounded daily,
with the climatic one hundred blasts on Rashashana. The last

(01:13:44):
trumpet is traditionally associated with the closing blast at the
end of Yam Kapor, sealing judgment. In Christian prophetic understanding,
this last trumpet resonates with Paul's words in First Corinthians
fifteen fifty two about the resurrection and transformation at the
last trumpet sound, and how does that align with jubilee?
The jubilee cycle is announced on jam Kapur of the

(01:14:08):
fiftieth year. The shofar blast signals release of debts, freedom
for captives, and return of land to families. Thus, the
day of Atonement and the last trumpet trumpet blast equals
economic reset, restoration, liberty, and renewal of covenant order. It
aligns with the ultimate jubilee Messiah's Rain, where all bondage

(01:14:30):
is broken. What if and I'm only saying what if
med beds are used to resurrect those who have died
in Christ not in the past, but recently, while Christianity
is under attack. Now, I want to go over the
Knights Templar. I'm going to show you guys a video
of the Knights Templar. They were a powerful medieval Catholic

(01:14:50):
military order, suppressed by the pope and French monarchy in
the early thirteen hundreds. The claim here that after seven
hundred years they were back when the Vatican plays on
that dramatic gap, suggesting a symbolic restoration of their presence
and recognition by the Church.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
The red Cross and relics are.

Speaker 10 (01:15:09):
Powerful emblems of Christian chivalry and martyrdom. Their reappearance signals
a call to spiritual order during a time of cultural collapse,
aligning with apocalyptic or prophetic tone. The text frames the
Templars are defenders of Christianity, remaining enemies of past warriors
while assuring the faithful that are or that the Church

(01:15:31):
is rallying despite their flaws. There's a certain somebody who
has a Knight's Templar tattooed on their chest pete hegseth okay.
The tattoo on his chest is a Jerusalem Cross, and
it has very deep alignment with the Knights Templar and
their warrior ethos. The Jerusalem cross consists of a large
central cross with four smaller crosses on the corners. It

(01:15:52):
became a crusader emblem in the eleventh and twelfth centuries,
especially in the First Crusade and the establishment of the
Kingdom of Jerusalem. The Knights Templar carried this cross as
a mark of their mission defending the Holy Land and
the pilgrims traveling there.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
The warrior ethos embodied.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
Wearing this cross as a tattoo signals allegiance to the
warrior ethos, discipline, sacrifice, duty, identification with the templar mission.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
Defending faith and order in a chaotic world.

Speaker 10 (01:16:21):
Reminder that the bearer sees themselves as a part of
a living tradition of knights and builders. The tattoo aligns
the Knights Templar because the Jerusalem Cross was the central
crusader emblem tied directly to the order's founding mission. It
symbolizes both their literal duty defending the Holy Land and
their spiritual role guarding Christenden, the Christian warrior's afterlife. For

(01:16:45):
the Templars, dying in battle for Christ was seen as
a form of martyrdom. The Church taught that templars who
fell defending pilgrims for the Holy Land had a direct
path to heaven. Like the Norse warrior, the templar lived
and died with the conviction that sacrified some battle security
eternal glory, not for self, but for good. You've also
seen references to Valhalla by both Pete Hegseth and Cash Betel,

(01:17:08):
which is a reference to the Norse warriors afterlife. It
is also reference to a island where people go when
they're unlived.

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
Falsely or fakely anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:17:19):
And Norse belief, Valhalla is the hull of Odin where
fallen warriors who died bravely in battle are taken by
the valkyrie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
So there you go. That sounds crazy, sounds like crazy
conspiracy theory. But let me let me tell you what
she's talking about. For those that have no idea, what
are med beds? That's what she had mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, and Trump has been talking about these, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Yes, but if you look up on AI med beds,
The term medbed as short for medical beds or meditation
beds in some versions refer to a conspiracy theory idea
of a futuristic medical device or bed that can cure
any illness, regenerate limbs, reverse aging, or otherwise repair the
human body by advanced often alien quantum or energy frequent means.

(01:18:00):
The claims are generally vague and rely on pseudo scientific
jargon biophotons, life force, energy frequencies, resonance, et cetera. A
Promoters often say the technology already exist, but is being
withheld from the general public by elites, governments, or corporations.
Some conspiracies have marketed medbed adjacent devices or related products
making health claims. For example, Tesla Biohealing not related to

(01:18:24):
Tesla the car company, but has sold biohealer canisters and
the medbad Generator, claiming effects like pain relief, improved circulation,
et cetera. However, regulators have flagged these products. In August
twenty twenty three, the US Food and Drug Administration issued
a warning letter to Tesla bio Healing, citing misbranded and
unapproved medical device claims. So what did Trump recently post?

(01:18:48):
That's the question, and I know we're talking. This is
definitely kind of not about the shooters. It kind of
does go to Charlie Kirk. But in late September of
twenty twenty five, about a week ago, Trump posted a
video on his true social account in which a version
of Trump claimed that every American would soon get a
medbed card and that new medbed hospitals would be built.

(01:19:11):
The clip was styled like a Fox News broadcast feature
in Laura Trump as a host, but Multiphiless confirmed it
was AI generated, and Fox News says The segment never aired,
but Trump posted this keep in mind on his true
social now media. In fact, schers point out that the
medbeds are a conspiracy theory popular in QAnon and far
right online spaces, and that there is no credible evidence

(01:19:31):
that they exist. Now Scientific communicators and skeptics organizations uniformly
classified med beds as pseudoscience, expressing concern that people wanting
these miracle devices might delay or reject real medical treatment.
The McGill University Office for Science and Society described medbeds
as the ultimate medical salvation that never materializes. They call

(01:19:52):
it a mirage, and investigators of companies marketing related devices
show that their claims are not supported but by clinical
trial data or accepted medical science, and regulators are raising
red flags, as with Tessa biohealings FDA warning so reporting
shows that some medbed centers or wellness entrepreneurs have sold
overnight stays or caniser's charging for several hundreds two thousands

(01:20:14):
of dollars claiming that life force energy benefits exist. But
Trump did share this, and we don't exactly know why
He shared this literally on the verge website. There is
a website and the Verge. There were multiple newsalas that
says Trump post wild and bizarre AI video promoting medbed conspiracy.
The president shared a fake clip in which he announced

(01:20:36):
a medbed hospital and a national medbed card. But Trump
himself posted this video. So what this girl's saying. It
sounds batshit crazy to do a lot, but he posted it.
And really what it was saying is these beds can.
It's almost like a fountain of youth, is the way

(01:20:57):
I kind of gathered from it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
And that is lost technology that we have today and
that we're in a church, and we lost.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Yeah. Well, the problem, the problem with this whole thing is, right, guys,
this this lady is going on here, she's making this
big video. She's connecting all the dots and knights of Templar,
the religious war, the battle right now, the end times
and in times I believe is very real. If you
read the Bible, if you read about kind of what
the Bible says about towards the end times. Although we
do not know the day, the hour, or the month,

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we will know when the time is near. So the
Bible says, right, that is what it says. And if
you look at all of these killings, all of these
mass shootings, the rumors and the wars and rumors of wars,
the the people turning against each other, the hatred, the
coldness of their heart. That is what we have today
in this world. We have a world to where people
want to annihilate and kill each other, and especially on

(01:21:47):
religious beliefs. You know, as we said before, that clip
played in Nigeria where where thousands and thousands, entire villages
of Christians are being murdered. You look at Charlie Kirk,
which I believe Charlie Kirk was a messenger. I think
he was someone that was put on this earth for
a reason. There are more people that are showing up
in churches now than we maybe ever had because of

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Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
And look what happens to churches this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah, and then exactly that's that's exactly the point, right,
So you make a great point. You know, after Charlie
kirk assassination, where churches were filled up, they couldn't even
hold anybody else because everybody was like, Hey, I need
to go to church. I want to read my Bible,
I want to I want to learn about God, I
want to be this warrior for Christ. I at least
want to know what it's about. Right, Maybe I've never

(01:22:34):
picked up a Bible. And then, like Sherry says, you
know what, a two weeks later, you have now people
attacking a church. You had it also in you know, Minnesota,
where the what they refer to as a transshooter attacked
a Catholic school slash church church.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah, but there is obviously a battle. There is a battle.
I mean, this is happening all around the world, and
I believe it's happened in our politics as of today.
And this is something that's scary.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
And it's not just Christian people that are being killed.
Jewish people are being killed as well. And when you
think about what's going on in our world, everyone's turning
against Jews right now, the left, the right, everyone is
turning against Jews.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
And I don't think that's necessarily the right thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Like Chad you mentioned earlier, governments are separate than religion,
so we got to keep that in mind. And I
guess that goes with Muslims as well. You know, it's
always against a religious belief, but we got to look
at the governments that are destroying and making these religious wars.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Yes, we also have a clip from Harrison Smith on
INFO war is talking about don't know if you notice,
but all the evil people are panicking. And I thought
this was a good clip to play. I think this
is kind of especially with what we're talking about as
far as the religious battles. Maybe this going on right now.
I do want to play this. I thought this was
pretty good. Check this out.

Speaker 11 (01:24:02):
Forty eight because this is sort of a perfect example
of how this, you know, manifested in reality. It's my hero,
Scott Jennings on CNN, but it's not him, it's what
the other guy is saying. She again goes to show
you that these people are not ready to have the
conversation about what's happening right now. They're still stuck in
twenty sixteen and entrapped by the lies they were told

(01:24:22):
ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Let's watch.

Speaker 12 (01:24:25):
Yeah, I'm pretty tired of conservatives gaslighting about the current
political environment and Donald Trump's rhetoric when all of this
escalation can be traced back to his entrance into American politics.
His claim to fame was saying that Obama wasn't born
in America. He was the first presidential candidate to have
his crowd chant lock her up about a political opponent,
you can bring up the insurrection. Even in the past

(01:24:45):
few weeks my home city of Chicago, he posted a
photo of Chicago being invaded by the Department of War.
So the broader point here is Donald Trump endlessly deflects
and tries to blame it on the other side when
he is the one responsible for amping up the tension
in a America. And I've spent all of my formative years,
throughout high school, throughout college looking to the president who
I'm supposed to be able to look up to, and

(01:25:06):
seeing somebody who's trying to place blame on the left,
who's amping up the rhetoric constantly, and yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 9 (01:25:13):
So you think it's Donald Trump's fault that had deranged
left is climbed up to the top of a building
and shut up the ice facility, not once now but
twice in Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:25:22):
I think it's Donald Trump's fault that America has gotten
to this heated place.

Speaker 9 (01:25:25):
I think that's no responsibility for the for the radicalization
on the left that's causing this violence.

Speaker 12 (01:25:30):
Twenty nine year olds radicalized by online communities and online algorithms.
I'm not going to blame that you Trump, but he
was caught in a lot of online video game algorithms
and all these communities. Donald Trump, but it's Trump. Ten
years ago. Donald Trump amped up at tension in America.

Speaker 9 (01:25:46):
So he ran ten years ago, and this guy then
ten years later, somehow you're connecting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Can't you just take responsibility for it?

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Oh, let's not do the like he has to take
responsibility to democratic YouTuber. You want me, I want you
to I want you to understand. I want you to
understand that we're in the middle of an epidemic. I'm
a Twitter you on YouTuber. I'm just an idiot.

Speaker 11 (01:26:11):
Okay, I'm just I'm just a stupid idiot. You expect
me to know what's going on. I'm just sitting on
CNN demonizing the President of the United States for attacks
against him and his supporters. But I remind you, I'm
a twenty two year old idiot YouTuber dumbass left his communists, moron.
So you expecting me to take responsibility for this? No, No,

(01:26:32):
we don't expect you. And in a way, he's being honest.
It was Trump's you know, intro into politics.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
That caused all of this insanity.

Speaker 11 (01:26:42):
No, it wasn't Trump's fault, obviously, but the response from
the machine, the response from the political machine has been
so hysterical over the last ten years. And it's all
pretty much because Donald Trump broke their whole paradigm, shattered
their whole you know, right and left control system, and
showed that, you know, a true patriot can have the
will of the people. And then they deployed everything they've

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got and it's we even said at the time that
it was not a good option for them to take.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
They really had two options.

Speaker 11 (01:27:13):
They tried everything they could, and really they screwed themselves over.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Their two options would.

Speaker 11 (01:27:17):
Have been to do what they did, which is just
go completely insane. Right, the way I used to describe
it all the way back in like twenty seventeen was
it's like the globalists, they're really their ultimate goal is
to trap you in a cage without ever having to
like attack you, without you ever realizing that you're approaching
the cage. Right, if you're a tie, if humanity is
a tiger that they're terrified of, they don't want to
get the clause, so they leave little you know, treats

(01:27:39):
for it, leading it into a cage. And the Trump
election was like the Tiger, the American people being slowly
and blindly led towards total slavery under a new World
Order system, sort of looking up for the first time
and going this is a weird that, what is this
seeing the cage for the first time, and going I
don't think I want to go in that cage and
backing up.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
And that was the trumpell.

Speaker 11 (01:28:00):
It was sort of the American people coming to awareness
about what was going on and not liking it and
wanting to go against it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
And the two options they had was they could.

Speaker 11 (01:28:08):
Either reach out and grab the tiger and try to
shove him in, which is what they chose. But I
always said that's a dangerous move because now the tiger's
very aware of what you're trying to do. Now you'll
never get it in the cage because it's going to
fight like hell. And that's where we're at now. Their
other options would have been too cool, to chill for
a second, let the tiger be suspicious, let him back off,
and go all right, we didn't get him that time,
but let's keep you know, let's play the game. Let's

(01:28:30):
let him think he got away and then we'll you know,
try to build back up. But these people can't do that.
For some there's something about them. They can never moderate
their strategy. They can never tap the brakes a little
bit and go all right, we're going a little too hard,
let's back off to lower the defenses of the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
I mean, they're so strategic, they're.

Speaker 11 (01:28:48):
So you know, tactical in the way they deploy syops
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
It's surprising that they thought that this would work.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
That they thought that by just like throwing everything at
the wall and seeing what's stuck, that they would get
Trump indicted and maybe the American people would turn on him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Like it was just never gonna happen.

Speaker 11 (01:29:04):
But like I said, I think they kind of screwed
themselves over because even before he got elected. And again,
this is the psychology behind all of this, and this
goes to a lot of what's being said by Trump
and his administration about the FBI and the way that
they're were totally corrupted, crossfire, Hurricane everything. They were convinced
that Donald Trump was as bad as they said he was.

(01:29:25):
They were convinced that he was a criminal. That if
they just got some you know, surveillance on him. If
they could, if they could just get access to his communications,
then they'll find whatever they need to to you know,
screw them over. They'll find blackmail, they'll find a criminal,
something they can get.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
They were sure that that was the case.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
So in their mind, and this is what they were
saying when Peter Struck is saying, don't worry, we have
an insurance policy. In their mind, it was like, Okay,
we'll come up with this fake thing about Russia collusion,
totally illegal, but it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Then we'll get the search warrant.

Speaker 11 (01:29:57):
Again, we had to lie to do it, totally illegal,
that's fine. Then we'll get the surveillance on Trump. Then
we'll find what we really need. We'll use whatever we
find to destroy him. Hillary Clinton will get into office.
She'll cover everything we did up so all those things
where it was illegal but it was fine. It's fine
because Hillary Clinton will be in office and she's on
our team, or we're doing it on her behalf, and
she'll thank us by sweeping it all under the rug

(01:30:19):
and going after Trump, and he'll go to jail and
all of our mouthfeasance will be dissolved and go away
and nobody will ever think about it again. So they
really went all in on Hillary Clinton. They were convinced
that she was going to win. As soon as she didn't,
all of that criminality suddenly put them in a position
where like, Okay, now they're riding the tiger. Right now,
they're on top of the tiger, dripping on going. We

(01:30:40):
can't turn around, now, we can't stop.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
That was Harrison Smith Info Wars. You know he's talking
about here. I gotta be honest, guys, he's talking about
the same bullshit we hear on an everyday basis. And
I just I don't believe. I'm not buying any of
this political stuff. I'm just not don't buy it. I
don't buy the right versus left anymore. I don't buy

(01:31:05):
the Trump versus this and this versus that. I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
But the problem is is the left is still buying
into it, and the right is trying to look into
what's going on. They are, You're right, no, because the
right is they're changing their ways and their beliefs, and
the left is still stuck in their LBGGQ whatever it's called,
and their wokeness and they want that to continue. Where

(01:31:29):
the right is like, listen, if we don't see something
that's right, we're going to call it out, but the
left will not call it out no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Yeah, now you're right, And I think that's important. I mean,
I do absolutely think it's important that we as people,
not right or left, that we call out bullshit and
no matter who it's from. And I think that we
are in a mass formation psychosis right now on both sides.
You know, we heard about that during COVID. We heard

(01:31:58):
about like, what is mass formation psychosis? Like, what does
that even mean? What that means is that someone someone
higher above us, someone more intelligent, smarter as far as
game plans and war games really is what it is
is they're going to figure out a way to make
either everyone for this particular narrative or against right. And

(01:32:19):
maybe usually there are always two sides to this, and
we've seen this in politics. The only way really politics
works is by dividing people. That's the only way that
right versus left works. And the only reason right versus
left has to work is because if you realize truly
how corrupt our government and our institutions are, then if

(01:32:41):
the entirety of the people were together, the government would
no longer be able to function. They would no longer
be able to rule, they would no longer be able
to do the shit that they are doing. There's just
no way. There's enough people right now. If you just
look at certain issues in this country, in this world
that the unit of tastes involved in, there are enough

(01:33:02):
people on the left and right that if they weren't
divided based on politics or this stupid bullshit between anti Trump,
pro Trump, LGBTQ not LGBTQ, whatever, patriots versus non pagris antiva,
Black Lives Matter, I mean, just go down the list.
If they weren't divided on this stuff, then the government

(01:33:22):
would no longer be able to be corrupt. It's just
not possible, because the people would come together and they
would put a stop to it, because that's the only
way for it. We are working for the government. We
are slaves to our government. At this point, the government
no longer works for the American people. We are slaves
to our government. We are slaves in every single faction

(01:33:42):
of that head forever. But but we're slaves in every way.
You are taxed in every single thing that you almost
entirely do, or there's some type of fee for you
to do anything if you like. For example, I remember
growing up, you know, going to Myrtle By each South
Carolina as a kid, and when every morning the most

(01:34:04):
exciting time for me was waking up and going out
with my dad and my brothers and we would fish
on the coast. You know, we would go out, we'd
buy a bait, we'd do all this stuff. We'd be
able six in the morning, we'd fish. Did we have
to have a license for that when we were growing up? No?
Now do you? Yes, you have to have a license
to fish on the coast in a giant ocean that

(01:34:24):
somehow the US government or factions of local government decided
that they are going to make laws where you can't
even you can't even fish in the ocean without having
a license and pay them money to do that. The
same thing with all of our waterways. They control us
in everything, property taxes, sales taxes, death taxes. Like you

(01:34:45):
literally can't avoid anything. You can't even die free. That's true,
you can't even die and not have to pay someone something.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
But do you not think that Trump is trying to
softball us into some of this action, like even thinking
of about text free tips for example. You know he's
going into this text free tips like oh, we're not
going to text you on that because he has to
softball it until we can get no taxes on income.

(01:35:13):
Same thing with property tax, same thing with licenses. I
feel like that's the direction he's trying to go in
to to make America free again.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
Well well okay, but here's the reality though, you know
to that, I understand what you're saying. I mean, you know,
at least someone's trying to do something, But also the
reality is is like you think about this and you're like, okay, well,
with USAID for example, and what Doge found Elon Musk
and all of his team of guys that said, Hey,
we were sending millions here, millions here, billions here, Look

(01:35:44):
at Ukraine and Russia war billions and billions and billions
and billions and billions of dollars. We're sending all of
that money to foreign nations, not just Ukraine, but we're
also send it to countries in South America, Africa, Israel.
We're heavily funding you name it. We're in all this money.
What if you just said, hey, why don't we quit
funding all this other foreign bullshit, and including these experiments

(01:36:07):
with LGBTQ trans mice or whatever the hell, these experiments
that we've seen with you know, for example, the USAID
and what they what they've been doing, which is basically
money laundry.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Right, and all the tests on the bagels.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Yeah, but all of this stuff. How about we quit
doing all this care about America and say, hey, instead
of just taxing our citizens to death when we already
have a interest rate that is the highest that we've
ever almost I think.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
We've ever had, and they even take it down.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
We've had inflation like crazy, We've had all this stuff.
People are struggling. And I say this all the time,
like if I don't, I don't understand how people that
are living pay paycheck to paycheck and not making very
much money, how are they living? I don't understand it.
And I'll tell you why that is the case. If
the government really wanted you to be successful, you could
be if the government really wanted. And this is not

(01:36:56):
a socialist idea. Socialism is bad in most cases, in
almost all cases, and there's a reason why socialism is bad.
But also you don't have to have socialism to create
I guess you can say laws and or this, or
do away with laws to allow your people to be
able to live comfortably. That's not to say that you've

(01:37:18):
got to pay people or get them on government assistance.
Just help them out in some ways in any way
you possibly can. Kids nowadays that are twenty and twenty
five and thirty years old can't afford houses. They can't
afford anything because of interest rates, because of inflation, because
everything is expensive. So the reason why I say this
is because although Trump campaigned on no tax on tips, okay, well,

(01:37:43):
that helps servers not to pay taxes, which, by the way,
most servers don't freaking claim taxes on tips anyway. Because
I was a server, I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Claim to mine because I was honest.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah I was too.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
But I think that I'm gonna give you a keyword
that you're probably gonna hate. But that is why Trump
is in reducing tariffs. We have to tax other countries
in order to make our country rich again, because we're
we He came into it with inflation. Look at what
the gas prices was. I mean, the eggs were already

(01:38:13):
up everything. I mean, he came into a dying economy
and he's trying to stiffen it up so that we
can live again and understand what living is about.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
That is what he's trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
And all these people that are going against Trump for
trying to do these.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Things, well, what better options do you have?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Well? I do know that you know all these tariffs.
I mean, if you talk to a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Businesses, I know, like your brother, I think that's bullshit.
I think that's not bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
But they're looking at the short term and not the
long term. You got to look at the long term.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
You know, We've been.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Tariffed for years and years and years from other countries.
We can't even sell shit in India because their tariffs
are so high.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Like why is it allowed that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
They can sell stuff here and we can't sell stuff
there for the same amount of money. It doesn't make
sense to me, and something's got to be done. We
have been robbed from other countries from years because we're
their richest country in the world or whatever, which we're
really not, and we're still being taxed like it is.

(01:39:21):
And I think that has to stop. And I think
Trump's agenda is very important because I think in the
long term, if people would just let it ride and
ride out the storm. The storm is gonna benefit Well,
we're gonna see lower taxes, We're gonna see people able
to afford housing. We're gonna see people have better jobs.

(01:39:44):
But they still have to get off their asses and
go to work. And that's part of the problem too.
Nobody wants to work anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Well, yeah, I mean, I look, I agree, like I
hope that tariffs do actually benefit us long term. I
know that's what Trump's trying to do. He is trying
to make America the powerful nation that it once was,
and we have been you know, we have been screwed
on that for so many years. But you know, you
also got to think, like, if Democrats do get back in,
for example, and this is going to kind of political agenda,

(01:40:11):
they will completely reverse everything and we'll be back to
square one. So it's like, this is the problem with politics.
This is a problem with right versus left. This is
the problem when you when you put people in factions
of government or factions of support and loyalty with left
and right, this is the problem you get. Anyways, we're
getting a little bit off topic, and I'm sorry, but
this is all to be but yeah, it is important,

(01:40:32):
but it's all to say this, I think, you know,
obviously we got to you know, our founding fathers did
not want where we're at right now to happen. They
did not want for us to be so divided and
hated hatred towards each other that we can't even accomplish anything.
And I understand that Trump does have an opportunity to
finally accomplish something, but there's still so much distrust in

(01:40:55):
government that I don't exactly know how they're going to
fix this. And and there's reasons why there is distrust.
There's reasons like, for example, when Trump says that the
Epstein files is a hoax, he literally says it's a hoax.
And that's obviously not a hoax, and so why would
Trump say it's a hoax? When Cash, Mattel and Pam
Bondi come out and say, well, all we found was

(01:41:17):
child pea, I'm gonna say pee, so I don't have
to edit this later because I get enough edits already.
But when when she comes out and says all we
found was just child pea, it's like downloaded child pea. No,
that's not true, and you know it's not true. And
if it is true, then you guys are just put
on a silver platter a bunch of bulls. Okay, you

(01:41:37):
guys are buying it on.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
His plate, his platter, he's got mashed potatoes, green beans, macaroni,
and cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
And the meat. The meat is not the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Okay, what is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
The meat is not the meat. The meat is getting
our economy back to where it is. It's making America
successful again. It's making us thrive again. Yes, the Epstein
files are important, but that's not our livelihood. And I
think that people are so attached to these Epstein files
that they're forgetting about people going to the grocery store

(01:42:09):
and being able to afford groceries.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
But that's what's it sharing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Right now, Nothing that Trump has done so far has
brought really any any prices down, and I don't think
it's going to three years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
The eggs are already down. I saw them in the grocery.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
But I'm just saying, Chad, yeah, a dollar's a big
amount for that. But what I'm saying is you're looking
at you know, I want it yesterday, just.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Like you know we've won this for years.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
No, But just like I was talking, we thought.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Trump was finally going to do this, just like I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
Was talking to my mother on the phone, I think
today about the Ukraine Russian war. He said he was
going to stop the war in three days. Yes, he
did think that. Just because he didn't make it happen,
Does that make him a liar. No, he really thought
and he wanted to do that. He thought he had
a great relationship with Putin. But Putin is turning out

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to be up and will not compromise at all to
stop any wars.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
So he has this major issue.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
He's got the Israel issue, He's got Iran issue, he's
got South Korea issue. Do you think he's really worried
about the Epstein files?

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
You mean probably Taiwan, South Korea.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
I mean they're well whatever, they're Taiwan, whatever, all these
things going around the world, that is more important than
the Epstein files at this point when it comes to
our livelihood. Okay, yes, no, but I understand it's important
to get these files out. I want to see the
files out, but it's not the most important thing to me.

(01:43:38):
The most important to me is to have a great
life and to be an American and be free and
be able to make money and live comfortably. We're not
at that point right now, but we're not giving him
the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
We're looking at the short term and not the long term.
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Okay, Well, I will completely disagree with most of the
And the only reason I disagree with it, you say,
is because you know, we're still sending weapons to Ukraine,
we are still funding Israel, We're still funding all these
various wars, We're doing everything where he.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Had to start funding Ukraine more again because Putin will
not come to the table like he thought he would.
So what do you have to do? You got at
play chess?

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Well the point to what you just said, and I'll
respond without getting into whatever. But the reality is there's
been no president that actually controls the government, period And
so if you think that the President of the United
States really controls that much, they don't. They don't control
that much. The CIA, the Deep State, all of these
people have full control of our government one percent. There's

(01:44:43):
a reason why Benjamin Niana when he comes into the
White House and he acts like that he's the one
in control and not Trump, which is very weird. Trump
sounded very demoralized today, even in his press conference, and
it's not just about Israel has that's one of the
little pieces of what's wrong with our country. It's not
just that. It's the amount of money that we spend
on a regular basis to other foreign nations that we're

(01:45:05):
not giving back to Our veterans are homeless people, the
people that are suffering their ass off and literally maybe
what's leading some of these veterans now to start shooting
up church. I don't even understand that whole concept of it.
We would have gotten in conspiracy here, but we got
way off mark and to start talking about politics, because
there's definitely there's definitely conspiracy here, right, I mean, it's

(01:45:27):
not coincidental. You have two marines that are veterans that
just shot up mass shootings. That's that just doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Well, what do you think, What is your theory about it?
I have a theory. I think my theory is is
that they're using veterans. Okay, this is my theory, and
my mom thought I was crazy, But I'm going to
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
And tell you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Okay, you think about when veterans, especially Marines, they go
to war. They're extensively trained and they go to war
and then they come back. Do you think they want
these veterans to stand up against the government. No, So
what do they do. They make them homeless, they make
them on drugs, They don't support them, they don't take

(01:46:06):
care of them. And that's the problem with the United
States is that we're not taking care of these veterans,
and instead of taking care of them, they're getting on
places like Telegram, like signal, and they're getting these extreme
ideologies and getting things stuck in their head because they've
gone a little bit mental because we're not giving them
help and they're listening to people and they go extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
That's my theory.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Yeah, I mean that's possible. I mean, well, we do
know that Antifa was trying to recruit them. And you
have to keep in mind to this notion that Antifa
is not just completely left like Antifa is a faction
of other people besides just left tards as they call them,
you know, or libtards as some people call them, you know, leftist.

(01:46:52):
The Antifa movement is heavily funded by Open Society Foundation,
by George Soros, by the globalists, and so the globalists
are not especially just looking for leftists because they got
to have soldiers too. They got to have warriors. They've
got to have the people that can actually battle and
do the dirty work for them. And a lot of leftists,
people that have never touched guns, people that have never

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been involved in any type of wartime scenario, any of
this stuff, they don't necessarily want all of those people.
They got to somehow reach out to the veteran community.
And it's not very hard, as Sherry says, to do that.
When you're homeless, you're screwed up in the head, you're
not getting the you're not getting the help that you
need from Veterans Affairs, the VA, You're not getting any
of this help. So it's pretty easy to kind of

(01:47:34):
reach out to these people and say, hey, your government
did this, and your government did that, and you know,
here's what I think you got to do. And this
is a movement, this is a fight, this is a narrative.
But you know, it's not always just like, hey, you know,
it's all just leftists, Because it's not always just leftists.
People can be addoctrinated through this anti fascist movement, this
Open Society foundation. The big question is going to be, like,

(01:47:57):
what does this government do about it? Because likely what's
going to happ and is they're going to take away
your freedoms. They're going to take away more of your rights.
They're going to use it very similar to the Patriot
Act to where after nine to eleven they said, hey,
we're going to mass surbail people. We're going to make
sure that we know almost everything that you're doing. And
I say almost, because now they basically know everything we're doing,
especially with Pollunteer all these other software companies. And so

(01:48:18):
they're going to continue to take away your freedoms and
they're going to do it, and they're going to do
it publicly, by the way, and including I believe the
Trump administration. I think it's coming. I think it's coming.
I think that they're going to do it publicly because
they're going to get you on board with the narrative
of guys, this is leftist. Do you not see? This
is leftists doing all of this. So the reason why

(01:48:39):
there are body accounts that are trying to shift the
narrative from hey, maybe this guy was a Trump supporter
even though he was a marine, even to all this stuff.
These are leftists. We're going to somehow try to shape
this as much as we possibly can, because if we
lose the narrative of leftist right, if we lose that narrative,
then we can't get the mass population of the people
that voted for US on with censorship or with more

(01:49:02):
surveillance or with more control. That's what they got to do.
They can't do that if they lose the narrative right.
And so there's and the funny thing is we're already
starting to get in this conversation right now. There are
people that have never even talked about politics or assassinations
or shootings or matchs, none of that. There are people

(01:49:23):
that have never talked about that stuff that are starting
to get on social media and completely abandoning what they've
been talking about forever. And they're starting to say, guys,
anyone that believes in this or this or this is crazy.
They're psycho. All you have to do is believe in Trump,
believe in the government, believe in this. Like, since when
are we supposed to just believe in what the government

(01:49:44):
tells us? I mean, we've literally come off of at
least eight years and especially the last five years of
complete lives and bullshit, and now you're starting to have
people that you know, just the same way on Maga side,
where you have people like I will say Cat Turn,
I believe cat Turn on X. He's a huge account,
and you know he was built up. He was built

(01:50:04):
up over a few years, and everybody in Maga really
started to support cat turn and they're like, yeah, we
love cat Turn, we love this guy. He's amazing. He
started making appearances, got millions of followers, and then when
it was most important that cat Turd spoke out with
his millions of followers, when was that time. Can we
go back to this for a second. Oh, it was

(01:50:25):
Epstein files. It was when Trump started saying it was
all hoax, it was all bullshit. There's no such time.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
I don't think Trump was saying I was a hoax.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Then he said it was hoax. Not then, No, I'm
saying in the past three months he said it's a hoax.
It's a big Democrat hoax. And so you know how
I knew that cat Turd likely allegedly was funded. Go
to his account, go to see what he said back then,
because if you look at what he said back then
during the Democrats when they were in office, you know, Biden, Harris,

(01:50:54):
all of them, what was cat turd saying what was
he saying? Cat turd was saying, they're height They're hiding. No,
they are hiding the evidence because they are implicated. They
are hiding this from the American people. And we demand
justice about the Epstein files. We demand it because we
know this is truth. We know this truth. You can't
hide this from us Democrats. And then when Trump said

(01:51:17):
this is a hoax, it's all hoax, it's aw a
Democrat hoax. Pambonni came out and said, oh, always saw
was child pee that he downloaded on his computer? Cash
Hotel said nope, there was no trafficking whatsoever. What a
cat turd say? Oh? Trump's right, and all of you
are now woke right. Anyone that's saying anything about Epstein
now is woke right. You know who else is woke right?

(01:51:37):
Anyone that says anything negative about Israel? Okay, So anyone
that says anything negative about Israel is also now considered
woke right. They're basically classifying this group of people to
ask questions on the right that don't just completely align
with the government narrative. They're calling you woke right. It's
not work right, it's just not being a dumbass. And

(01:51:58):
it doesn't matter about if it's true Trump's in office
or if Biden's in office. They're still the government. They
are still politicians. They may want to make you believe
that Trump's not a politician, but he is. He's always
been a part of the elitism system. And yes, I
absolutely are going to vote for Trump over Harris or Biden,
for sure. But the reality of it is is now

(01:52:19):
people like us, and people like anyone that questions the
narrative that is officially being put out on mainstream media,
you are now considered the woke right. And you know
what they consider that, They consider that as bad as
a left left and guess woke left. Bb Net and
Yahoo has even been talking about this in the past
three videos. He says, the woke right, let me tell
you about the woke right, They're just as bad as

(01:52:41):
the crazy he is on the left, and we got
to get rid of them. You know, it's very weird
about how he says stuff about the woke right. Is
that Trump literally two months ago also talked about the
wolk right. He also says that anyone that doesn't believe
or wants to hear more about Epstein, screw them, we
don't need them anyway. So when I say that I'm
a little worried about our future. I'm worried because the

(01:53:02):
fact that Trump can say stuff like that with a
huge part of his base that literally voted for Trump,
because maybe we're going to finally get transparency on things,
you know. And then and then Trump and Cash and
all of them basically said after their media blitz campaigns
for two years before he was FBI director, he went
on every single podcast for two years making everyone believe

(01:53:25):
in this space that he was going to be the
savior of the FBI and he was going to release
all this amazing documents. And then day one he's basically
just like, f you. If you don't believe us, don't care.
And then he gets Dan Bongino, one of the most
trusted guys on the internet, the most trusted guys that
would look into the camera every single day talking to Micron,
say day one, I know how this goes. I've heard

(01:53:48):
from my sources that this is all I cover up.
This saw this, And then like what, three weeks a
month after Dan Bongino is Deputy director of FBI, he's
on camera with Cash Fottel looking like he's under he
has ices behind them about to cut his head off,
saying yes, I saw the video. It is definitely a suicide.
I mean, what the hell, guys, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
There's definitely not any other people except for Epstein or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Let me ask you real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Though, Chad, thinking about back in the administration of Biden,
what happened to our military back then?

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Just to answer that question, what do you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Like, what did happen? Well, the claim them to be woke.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
No, how did our military change who or our executives
are like top people in the military who were.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Well, it was both. It was based on their ideological
narratives of DEI to where we have to put anyone
that is, don't give a shit about qualifications as long
as they have some, as long as they are not
a race of white and or they are LGBTQ centered
or related or maybe even in TIFA or anti government
or any of this stuff. These are the people we

(01:54:53):
are gonna put in charge.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
That was the people in the military. Now just think
about that. Do you think everyone in the military is
right on the right side?

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
No, of course not.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
No, they're not not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Not anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Absolutely, I've got to think about that that the military
turned woke the last four years of the administration of
the Biden administration. So do you not think some of
their ideologies could have got into some of these people. Absolutely,
So we're blaming We're blaming conservative veterans.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Are these shootings I just said? You just said it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
No, No, I'm not blaming them. I'm just saying that
you could also have a Trump sign in your yard
and also maybe aligned with some of these woke ideologies.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
And especially when we changed the military to a woke
ideology military list where.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
We're a weaker. Most of these guys were far out
of service. They were back in Bush's days. Yes, both
of these guys were in Iraq and Afghanistan. That was
long before Biden Harris, any of them that was long
before they were doing this was under Bush administration. So no,
that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
App Okay, Well, that was my first point is that
you know, possibly because our military DECI woke, maybe that
was some of the ideology. My second thing is you say,
who is funding who? Who's funding Candice Owens, Who is
funding Tucker Carlson? Because I want to know somebody's funding them.
They're not just America first, because I don't believe that

(01:56:25):
shit for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Somebody is funding them. Who do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
I don't be funding them? Well, you know what, that's
the good question.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Somebody that is anti Israel is funding them?

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Well, because you've got to have those people, because there
is pro Israel funding and we're going to go over
that in just a second, because there is absolutely one
percent pro Israel funding. Is there pro anti Israel?

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Yes, Qatar, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Sure there is. I'm sure there is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
It's been pro Russia is in battle.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Anyone that is against America could be funding these people.
But I guarantee you and in my opinion, I feel
like Tucker and Candas are funded.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
I just do.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Maybe I'm funded by somebody opposite of Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I'm not saying they're not. But you know what, does
this all go back to, though? Okay, well, okay, so
if you think about like if you say that, Candace,
and by the way, we're about to get in some
more of Charlie Kirk because we got to get into
have tube. But if you get into like you get
into like who is funding Tucker Carlson or candas owns right,
how much you know and trust me, I've thought about this.

(01:57:30):
I mean you have to think about this primarily because
over the past how many every years and really I
would say almost fifty or sixty years, because you got
to think about Operation Mockingbird. Operation Mockingbird was a CIA
intelligence operation to where they made sure that the mainstream
media in the United States or America was relaying their

(01:57:52):
messaging and their agendas across media. This was a declassified
operation that intelligence inside of the United States did. And
so do we think that you know, Operation Mackenbird is
still not in existence, Well, it's not because they're so much,
far more advanced than that. And now we're moving away
from mainstream media. We know that mainstream media is not

(01:58:13):
as trusted as they were ever Like in history, we've
never seen the low ratings in mainstream media than we
do today.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Government's not trusted as well.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
No, But the thing is, here's the deal. So you
have mainstream media that is completely lost trust in the public.
So now what has the intelligence operations done?

Speaker 10 (01:58:31):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
What what have they done? Well, they've had to go
to influencers and they've had to go to people, and
that's not just the United States, that's also foreign and
they've done the same thing with mainstream media for years now.
They're just shifting the funding. So, you know, to Sherry's point,
like who's funding Tucker, Who's funding Candice, I don't know,
could it be Art think it's I don't even think

(01:58:53):
it's necessarily Katari money or any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
I just think that they are being they could be.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Could be and listen, they could be. I'm not saying
they couldn't be. And I've thought about that because you know,
you've got to understand that these people, and especially they're
really high realms of media, are likely going to be
funded by somebody and who Threo's people are going to be.
The bad thing is with all of this is the
fact that we have any funding outside of the nation period.
That that's that's the entire point to this. Whether you're

(01:59:21):
a candaet Owns, Tucker Crasson, guys that are supporting Israel, whatever,
it doesn't matter. We should not be being funded by
foreign nations on our influencers or a mainstream media to
change or sway the conversation or political viewpoints of American citizens.
That's the problem. That's why the Farva Act exists. That

(01:59:42):
Act exists, which JFK wanted to ensure that other foreign nations,
especially Israel, registered registered under that. And now it just
seems like that's just in whole that's just what we're
doing across the board. And it's not just foreign nations,
it's also intelligence operations. Everybody that's infiltrated.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Yeah, but even if we get foreign nations to register
as a foreign nation, is still going to happen, Chad.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
Yeah, well it will be, but I mean it's going
to be a lot harder because then you can be
held up in a criminal court and there's a lot
of things that can happen because of that. So I
want to get to this about Charlie Kirk and Tyler Robinson,
the alleged shooter. If we don't get to this, we're
never going to We're gonna get on this political conversation forever.
And we're already at two hours and twelve minutes. But

(02:00:30):
was Tyler Robinson enrolled in CIA CI? Now it's not CIA,
what is CI the Center of Anti Concipiatory Intelligence run
by a CIA officer And this was at Utah State.
So check this out. I want to show you guys
this video very interesting. This is about Tyler Robinson, the

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alleged shooter of Charlie kirk.

Speaker 13 (02:00:55):
Okay, Hello everyone, George web here at Utah State University,
home of the Aggies, here in Logan, Utah. And this
is the building for the Center of Anticipatoria Intelligence, the
Center of Anticipatory Intelligence. What of those letters spell out
to c AI. Well, that's convenient because the person who

(02:01:15):
runs is Jennifer Johnson is CIA, and the top three
people are they run this building. It's a beautiful old
building here on old Main Hill. And as you can
see us nestled in this valley here in beautiful Logan, Utah.
And you can see the mountains behind us, right and
so the Bear I think is the Bear Mountains, Bear River,

(02:01:35):
and so fourth and and there's the beautiful building. But
the key to this is this is, of course, Tyler
Robinson starts his program and then disappears. He's one of
the top students in America in engineering in STEM and
then he disappears off the map. Now what we put
forward is he's a part of a team. He's he's
didn't flunk out at all as a matter of fact,

(02:01:57):
he's one of the technical members of a team, right,
and these things are very good. These teams are very
good at anticipating false flags, anticipating things like the Charlie
Kirk murder because they're the ones that do them. So
you become very good at anticipating things when you're the
one who does them. If you have the weapons team,
if you have the sniper team, if you have the

(02:02:19):
explosives team, you become very good at predicting when things
are going to happen because you're the ones doing them.
And this is the key to the missing years. We
have the missing years with Tyler, right, we have the
Mississing years with Tyler Robinson. This is going to be
the key to the missing years. He's working with his
team members in this Inner Mountain Intelligence Organization, right, He's

(02:02:42):
working with his team members at different campuses, Salt Lake
City Campus, University of Utah, this is Utah State, of course.
And you talk down in to Saint George where we
were on the tenth of the day of the shooting.
So our citizen journalists are crowding and they're waiting for
Tyler to lay and his playing and maybe a night
on the Indian reservation or something. But this is the

(02:03:05):
key to our metadata. We're tracking the metadata of the team.

Speaker 11 (02:03:10):
Right.

Speaker 13 (02:03:11):
We're not arguing about the amphitheater anymore. We're not arguing
about this shot and the microphone and all these other things,
because all those things lead us to the same conclusion, right,
that there is a team involved. So if you're looking
for a team, the best thing to do is collect
the metadata of the teamting go for the team's metadata,
and then you'll have the team.

Speaker 11 (02:03:31):
Right.

Speaker 13 (02:03:31):
So that's the subsect that I wrote today. It's all
about the team. It's all about the team. And if
you follow on Tyler's team, it's it's armed aquareres. It's
it's not hard to follow. They have They announce everything
they do publicly. They are on the state capitol steps.
The governor supports this, Trevor Cox supports this, with the

(02:03:52):
transagenda sort of being the cover for this eligence. They're
in the same building, right, there's all the muckety MUCKs
here at the university. This is here, the belt is
behind me. This is the Center for Anticipatory Intelligence.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
So there you go. That was you know, him talking
about that, Tyler Robinson was a part of c AI,
which is the Center for Anticipatory Intelligence. I screwed that
word up a minute ago, but it's okay for Utah
State University. It's not officially a part of the CIA,
but the main girl, the main woman that runs this
program is CIA. And so very interesting right that Tyler

(02:04:36):
Robinson was a part of this, and this was part
of how they determine, how they figure out false flags,
how they figure out terrorist attacks, how they figure out
mass shootings, how they figure out things to where security
is involved, intelligence may be involved for nation's involvement all
of this stuff, and Tyler Robinson was en rolled in
a part of this. Now, there are missing links to

(02:04:58):
Tyler Robinson's career, academic career. That's that's a fact. They
try to tell you that he only went to this
university for one year or semester or whatever it was
and then disappeared.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
Now he went to a community college.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
He went to a community college, but if you look
at those records, he barely even went to classes at
any of these you know, community college, I guess classes.
But so what is the deal with the CAI. So
CI is this academic center at Utah State focused on
anticipatory intelligence. It is a multi disciplinary field that aims

(02:05:33):
to anticipate threats and opportunities in complex systems, security, technology,
environmental and society helped design resilience and adaptation. It combines
insight from stems, social sciences, ethics, policy, data sciences, and
et cetera. The idea is to reduce uncertainty and be
proactive anticipate, not just reactive, in areas that span security,
emergent tech, biological threats, climate and geopolitical changes, et cetera.

(02:06:00):
The academic programs and structure it offers this minor and
antra participatory Intelligence twelve credits, cohort model and to integrates
with one major graduate Certificate of Anticipatory Intelligence fifteen credits
designed to complement other graduate work as professional backgrounds and
oftentimes for those that do not know CI or programs
like this. The CIA not to be confused with CI.

(02:06:24):
They do find some of their top guys in top
people in programs like that. They will look at these
people and say, who is the best of this, Like
who is figuring out the things that we have not
thought of even in our teachings. Even as the professors
that are CIA that they send to these universities and
they teach these people how to think about this, how
to do this, how to look for this. And then

(02:06:45):
they'll look for people that maybe have a different viewpoint
or different angle, or maybe just maybe they're better even
in some cases than the professors. And so then what
does CI do. Well, they will pull these people out
and they will put them in other programs and they
will say, hey, this is the perfect this is the
perfect person that we need for this particular mission. Now
you even look at, for example, do I believe that

(02:07:08):
you know Tyler Robinson. You know, there's been this big
thing about did Tyler Robinson communicate on Discord or some
other social media platforms to where he was talking about
that he wanted to take out Charlie Kirk. Did Tyler
Robinson do this? And I'm not going to go ahead
and say that he never did that, right, I'm not
going to say that Tyler Robinson never went on Discord

(02:07:28):
or never went on these platforms and said things like, hey,
I'm going to take out Charlie Kirk, or I want
to take out Charlie Kirk, or maybe he expressed rhetoric
towards a political assassination I'm not going to say he
didn't do that, but we do know that the CI
they monitor everything we do, and especially on programs like
Telegram and Discord, and even to even programs like Telegram

(02:07:50):
where they say it's encrypted, they almost want you to
believe that, like you're messaging apps and stuff or encrypted,
so that you can almost get away with anything you
think in your head, and you'll start saying the craziest,
wildest shit because you think for some reason, the CIA
can't actually monitor what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
I mean, i mean, do you not think.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
That's why there are extremist beliefs on places like Round
and Signal, because yeah, and they think, oh, this is encrypted,
and then they get these people with these ideological views
that get on there and say, hey, guys, instead of
just speaking about this, let's promote violence, let's go and

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target these people.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
This is what actually.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Happens on these platforms because of stupid ass people.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
Yeah. Well, it's like what Jason Hanson said on our podcast.
If you guys not listen to that episode where we
bring on CIA officer former CI officer Jason Hanson, and
he had mentioned something that was called a useful idiot
and that's what CIA and other intelligence operations do. They
will use people like Tyler Robinson, even though if he
did score very high in a program like CAI, this
doesn't necessarily meaning he's an idiot. Obviously he's pretty smart.

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And a lot of times you'll find these people, especially
with special autistic people, that you know they are extremely
smart and this particular thing they're they're going to out
smart even the professor on so many avenues of this.
But there's something that are missing. Maybe it's empathy, maybe
it's compassion, maybe it's all these things. Maybe it's not
looking at the bigger picture. When someone or an intelligence

(02:09:18):
agency comes along and says, hey, we have we want
to work with you because you have been in this program,
you've been doing amazing things. We want to work with you.
But think about it. Let's take it a couple of
steps further. What if the ci knew he was in
this program, but then also for some reason whatsoever, I
don't exactly know the reason, but say that they knew
because they monitored his chat in discord, they knew he

(02:09:41):
wanted to take out Charlie Kirk. They understood this, and
so maybe they utilized him as a tool. Maybe maybe
they created him as a patsy to where they were like, hey,
we got to use this guy. This guy is thinking
about doing this, So let's bring our provocateurs. Let's bring
our people into the chat, maybe convincing or coercing him
to do this.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
Maybe let's us on and do violent.

Speaker 1 (02:10:02):
Yeah, let's set up some assistance for it. Let's let's
let's come in as in TIFA or whoever we need
to come in as and let's say, hey, guys, this
is what he's thinking. Let's bring in some people. Let's
make sure he carries this out. I don't know if
you guys have ever heard of like you remember the
the court case where the girlfriend convinced the boyfriend to
kill yourself.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
Yes, you remember that he committed suicide and then he
killed himself.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Just do it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:24):
You got to do it. You said you're going to
do it. You keep saying you're going to do it,
and you don't do it. Just follow through and do it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
The guy did it, Yeah, and that's his girlfriend. But
imagine a complex intelligence agency that is able to coerce someone.
And I'm not saying that's the case here.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
I'm going to tell him not even an agency. What
if it's just extreme people.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
It could be Well, yeah, but that's but that's the
official narrative, right, I mean, that's what mainstream media wants
you to believe. It's a loan gunman that maybe got
radicalized by the left and then TIFA and and the
very at the very most, I guess maybe George Soros
and the Globalist an Open Society Foundation really encouraged this
guy to do this. But we also have to think

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about it the other way. This guy was involved in
c AI, which is anticipatory intelligence.

Speaker 2 (02:11:10):
This guy for a semester.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
Is that a coincidence? Yeah, supposedly for a semester. But
we also have to understand, like, how quickly did they
see that this guy was the perfect asset in a
future event?

Speaker 3 (02:11:22):
Well, you look at Thomas Krook for example, it's the
same thing. I think that somebody utilized him for something.
I don't think he was a lone person at all.
And I don't think Tyler Robinson was alone. Even if
he was, you know, having discourse through discord or signal
or any of those other apps, somebody was you know,

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egging it on, helping it on.

Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
He was not.

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
I really honestly, think about when I think about all
these people that are in these mass shootings and these
mass plans, these are not plans by themselves. Yeah, I
think somebody eggs them on.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
It's like I was watching this thing.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
It was really interesting and it was on X last night,
and it was an experiment.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
People would go into an elevator.

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
You know, when you go into the elevator, usually look
at the door and you go up you know, the second,
third floor or whatever, and you just look at the door.
You might say hello to somebody or whatever. But this
experiment was really crazy because the people, you know, there
was one target and the people would go in and
everybody except for the target knew what.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
Was going on.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
So all the people go onto the elevator and instead
of looking at the door, they might look to the right,
like they all stand to the right or whatever, and
you watch and see these people conform to what the
other people are doing. They end up starting to look
to the right, and then there was one case in
the elevator. They did it several times and then they
had this guy basically turning around the elevator because he

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was conforming to what these other people are doing.

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's it's so weird here.

Speaker 3 (02:12:54):
And yeah, you could say that you wouldn't do that,
But would you or was you not? I mean, I
don't know. If you're an elevator and you saw everybody
facing the back, for example, and you're like, what the
hell is going on? Everybody's facing the back? Should I
be facing the back for some reason? Why are they
doing that?

Speaker 2 (02:13:09):
What am I doing? Should I just turn around?

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Should I just you know, you know me personally, I
think because I am a blabbermouth, I will.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
Ask like what the heck is going on?

Speaker 3 (02:13:19):
But a lot of people will just conform and do
what other people are doing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Yeah. And that's the thing about like intelligence and and
and you know kind of the undercover operative narratives is
that they they understand the human brain. They understand how
it works. They understand even examples like that like how
do we get people on our side? You know, and
even just see I you know, one of the things
that they do best is talking to people. They are

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they are at the they have the narcissistic tendencies. And
although one of the things the CIA says is like,
we don't want you to be a narcissist. Right, we
don't want you to be a sociopath, but what we
want you to be all the way up and to
that point. So we don't want you to be fully
on that spectrum, but we want you to be almost there,

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and we want you to have all of the same
abilities that a sociopath or a narcissist would have, which
is why you see a lot of like serial killers,
mass murders, the people that get away with shit for
a very long time. They have these tendencies, but they're
usually all the way on that side. So what the
CIA is looking for is like, hey, we need people
like this, but we need them to also have some

(02:14:27):
type of conformity. We need them to be able to
listen to us to a degree. So we want to
like get it right on the line. And so like
you know, with people that go into like CIA interviews interrogations,
you know the people that are going to go and
they're going to go through. There's so many people they
let go because they're just not what they want, and
then there's only a few that pass through. And you

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could be anybody. You could be a trash man, you
could be a freakin grocery store worker. You could be
a road worker, doesn't matter who you are. As long
as you have these exact that you know on this scale,
as long as you have that tennessee, then you're going
to be perfect and they can train you and do
whatever the hell they want to after the fact because
and kind of in some ways, you are expendable, because
if you ever do die, or you ever do get

(02:15:09):
murdered in the line of duty, no one probably over
know it, and they'll never know why you got killed
or murdered, or you'll be set up as a patsy
in some shape former fashion.

Speaker 3 (02:15:19):
I mean, there's a lot of weird shit there, yeah,
and things. Back to the boat guy, that's what he
felt like he was. He was set up by the government.
But real quick, before you go on, I just want
to mention the guy in the video I don't totally
trust And the reason why I don't totally trust him
is because he was also one of the ones that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Did the dairy Queen videos.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
And he was showing dairy Queen And you know most
of you know that if you're on X and you
watch all these videos and the conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk. Well, anyways,
Tyler Robinson was supposedly at this dairy queen like hours, like, yeah,
at the dairy queen, and he was eating a hamburger
like nothing happen or whatever. But when he went and

(02:16:01):
got this guy that you just showed when he went
to the dairy queen, first of all, it was not
even the right dairy queen, and he was showing it. It
was out of business or whatever, and it was like
being remodeled in all these things.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
It's the same guy. Are you sure this is the
same guy.

Speaker 3 (02:16:15):
It's the same guy, I promise. But anyways, I don't
totally trust him because there was a lot of people
out there saying, you know, when he was scrolling and
scrolling around and showing like the campus and stuff and
the university, that he was scrolling the wrong way and
showing the wrong dairy queen or whatever, just trying to
get people to go on to what he believed was,

(02:16:38):
you know, was right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:39):
So I guess you can't always trust of.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
Course, Well of course you can't, write I mean, absolutely,
of course you can. And that's why we go through
everything with That's why I told you, Sherry, like when
you saw the video the boat with the boat with.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
The Hebrew and I was like, holy, I don't even
want to show you this this nos.

Speaker 2 (02:16:58):
Hebrew on it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
No, I told Cherry. And we're talking about the Southport
shooter because the Southport shooter actually shot people from the boat. Yeah,
and I and I think we kind of brushed over
some of this, but he shot and killed three people.
We didn't even really talk about it. But the Southport
shooter was also a marine. The Nigel guy, Nigel Edge
we've been talking about where he fought all these court cases.
He just kind of pulled up one night and.

Speaker 2 (02:17:18):
Shot people for an hour though.

Speaker 1 (02:17:20):
Yeah, he shot people that was sitting out, most of
them tourists that was eating at this Southport fisher or eatery.
I guess you can say. And you know this guy,
he had a boat. It was a white center console,
but it did not have Hebrew writing on it, you know.
And but that's the reality.

Speaker 3 (02:17:35):
That's what people want you to believe though. That's why
they put it out there. They you know, there's so
many people there are anti this, anti that that they're
going to do anything to try to change your mind
or convince you that this is the person that did
this and this is why, oh, look at their boat.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
Yeah, but that's Hebrew. But that's why I also say
that it is very important for people that when you
were talking about canspiracies or theories or things like this,
that you get it right. And the reason why I
want to say that you get it right is because
if the theories that you have got right about that
particular subject before and then you go with some other
bullshit that is completely outlandish, it's going to it's going

(02:18:17):
to completely destroy your credibility. It's going to destroy your credibility. Yeah,
and it's going to make all the other theories, which
may absolutely be true, look also bullshit.

Speaker 2 (02:18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:18:26):
And that's why like with the Ian Carroll and the
canvae Owens and even the Tuck Tucker Callerson thing.

Speaker 2 (02:18:32):
You know, I used to really look up to all
three of them, and I love them.

Speaker 3 (02:18:36):
But now I was doing a good job, Sherry, I know,
but I'm saying that I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:18:41):
Starting to someone's feeding them a bunch of bullshit an look.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
At their credibility.

Speaker 1 (02:18:45):
Yeah, But what I'm saying is that to the same
point is like that also kind of makes you think
someone is doing their job on the backside of the
public relations side to say, hey, look, you remember, you
know all these guys that have questioned us and did this,
did this, did this, Let's let's infiltrate them and let's
feed them a bunch of crazy bullshit, especially on this

(02:19:07):
that sounds so outlandish, and we know that we can
prove beyond reasonable doubt this is not true, but let's
feed it to them. Let let's let's give them sources
they're very credible, so that then all the other ship
that they have said prior also looks bullshit. And that's
what I'm telling you if you if you want to
talk about intelligence operations, that's what they do and they

(02:19:28):
are very good at it. So just because maybe Canice
Owens or Tucker Crossing or whoever I'm maybe going to
say the other assholes name uh use people, Carol, I'm
not even going to say his name. But when when
you see people that have done very good reporting in
the past and then all of a sudden, with a

(02:19:50):
particular instance like this especially, it looks so outlandish, and
even Nick Flint has was like that's when that's when
I started like, what in the hell is going on?
Because then when Nick fun Test came.

Speaker 3 (02:20:00):
Out, I was like, yeah, and he's always been against
Israel for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (02:20:04):
Yeah, because but I think most of what, well not most,
I'm not going to say that, but a lot of
what Nick Flinntest has talked about as far as the
political side of Israel and US relations, I think has
been accurate. So what you know, the anti Jew stuff
I don't agree with because I don't think you can
just blame all Jews for Israel the same way I
don't think you can blame all black people for some

(02:20:25):
of the shit you see black people doing or white
people whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
That's what you're saying about Black Lives Matter, for example,
it wasn't really black Lives Matter. Guess there were black
people out there protesting, but was mostly set up by Antifa.

Speaker 2 (02:20:38):
But not even Antifa, it was George Soros.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
Yes, But what I'm saying is when Nick Flintest comes
out and it's like, dude, what the hell are y'all
talking about about Charlie Kirk being assassinated by Israel. We're
going to actually play a new video from Keniso Wins
and this is Kennis and saying Tyler Robinson's parents what
they believe right now about this about this Tyler Robinson
being framed as the ca and so this is interesting,

(02:21:01):
it's interesting, But my parents turn their child in, Yes
they did. But let's listen to what Candas says. Because
Candas has been very right lately. Okay, that's that's kind
of bullshit. That's not true. Here you go.

Speaker 14 (02:21:16):
Of most interest to me, what I've learned is that
his father, uh does not believe his parents don't believe
that their son committed this crime. I was like, huh,
excuse me, that's a that's a far cry from what
the media has been telling us. Remember, the media presented
this amazing story. The father realized his son was guilty,

(02:21:39):
so it goes right, and then he phoned over a
friend to help him convince his son to turn himself
in because this guy, you know this, this mysterious guy,
was a friend and and just had a connection with Tyler.
And eventually they said, you gotta do the right thing here,
we know this is you. That was the vibe, sir,

(02:22:00):
that's what the media was putting down for us to
pick up.

Speaker 1 (02:22:03):
Well, I was told actually that.

Speaker 2 (02:22:05):
It was kind of the opposite.

Speaker 14 (02:22:09):
That quote unquote family friend, who we learned was a
former detective with the police force at least, and so
therefore has strong ties with the police station informed the family.
It was that in between person that informed the family
that Tyler had been identified as the shooter. He recognized him,

(02:22:32):
he knows Tyler. He gives them the heads up, and
then I'm told, and I believe this, that the way
in which he got arrested, or rather turned himself in,
was because that family friend slash neighbor slash former detective
told him, Hey, it's best for you to turn yourself
in because there's only one of two options here. Either

(02:22:53):
you turn yourself in and everything is peaceable, or you know,
a SWAT team could come in here and arrest you
and things to get crazy. So that's what happened. He
went over to their house, Tyler was called over. Tyler
was bewildered. He disputed the idea that he had murdered
Charlie Kirk. In fact, according to my source, Tyler has

(02:23:15):
never even stepped foot on UVU campus. Tyler, it turns out, has,
which has already been revealed, was accepted into Utah State University,
not Utah Valley.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
And that's actually interesting if you pause.

Speaker 14 (02:23:31):
And reflect on that, because we didn't really consider how
on Earth Tyler became not just familiar with the layout
of the campus, but familiar with the rooftop layout of
UVU campus, so familiar that he knew exactly how to
scale across the rooftops to duck down in order to
take an almost impossible shot at a Charlie Kirk who

(02:23:51):
was sitting beneath a tent. How did he know how
to do all of that? Had he been there before?
Did he knew where Charlie was going to be sitting
in it? That he would have that shot from on
top of the Loz Center? What right I would actually
And I don't know, but I would imagine that even
actual current UVU students don't know that possibility, Like they're

(02:24:14):
not even that familiar with how to scale the rooftops
and what shots they can take from it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:21):
We'll see there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
Huh, So there's canas owens she knows all later.

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
Do you know what Google earth is?

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
Yeah? That is that is true. Google Earth is very
is a very credible source to figure it out. But
what I will say about this, though, is their using
thing about this is I do remember the mainstream media
telling us that Tyler Robinson likely visited this campus three
or four times. Now. They had a hearing today. This

(02:24:50):
was another preliminary hearing. They had the prosecution, They had
Tyler Robinson's defense, which is obviously I think it was
u point is it court appointed?

Speaker 2 (02:24:59):
Yeah, lady, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:25:01):
I don't know if she's quarter pointed it or not,
but either way, So they come in, they say Tyler
Robinson here, He says, yes, I'm here. You're on her.
And what they're saying is is that there's going to
be so much evidence in this case that, you know,
the defense has to have time to be able to
go through this.

Speaker 4 (02:25:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:25:17):
I'm going to go ahead and make a prediction about
Tyler Robinson and this trial. Right now, the federal government
is desperately trying to figure out how they're going to
wrap themselves into this case to be able to try
this case. The reason why I think they're going to
do that, and there's really not a lot of basis
on him being held to a federal trial as we
know it right now. But either way, because there's not

(02:25:40):
domestic terrorism, there's a lot of things they're trying to
push through. They really want to push through domestic terrorism walls.
We don't have that right now.

Speaker 2 (02:25:46):
Because they don't want it to be on TV.

Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
Yes, exactly, they don't want it to be on TV.
They do not want the public to actually be able
to see what is being presented as evidence because then
obviously X and social media are going to go crazy.
It may influence the jury. The jury is going to
be like, oh shit, well if the ex's saying this
and X saying this and they're showing this, now, look
there might be some credibility that to say that, you know,

(02:26:10):
you should not be influenced based on social media and
conspiracy theories or conspiracies in general, even though I would
think that it's going to be very hard to find
anyone in this entire country that has not heard about
conspiracies or theories based on this Charlie Kirk assassination. It's
going to be extremely hard. But what I think they
don't want, in my opinion, is they don't want this

(02:26:31):
to be televised. And if it's in state court, it
will be televised. If it's in federal court, then they
cannot hold that trial public, although there is already calling
because a lot of people believe that this may be
a federal trial. And so a lot of people are saying,
we must make this trial public because the people need
to see that an assassinator like Tyler Robinson, the public

(02:26:52):
needs to know and they deserve to know. But the
federal government is desperately trying to get in and say, hey,
look we want this to be federal. So on and
so forth. Here's what I think. Number one, you know
they have the death penalty on the table. I don't
think this thing ever goes to trial. I think there's
going to be a plea deal to some degree. And
for whatever reason, the reason why they say, hey, we

(02:27:14):
got a death penalty on the table, they're going to say, hey, Tyler,
we have all the evidence. We have all the evidence
against you, and regardless say that Tyler Robinson did not
do this, just say that. For example, do you know
how many people have pleaded because of the evidence that
the state has presented to them or the federal government whoever.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Probably found guilty.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
And then though there is yeah, and especially if you
go federal, because the federal indictment slash conviction rate is
like ninety eight percent. And so if you're presented that
by your attorney and they say, hey, Tyler. I hate
to tell you, Bro, I mean this sucks. I know
you say you're not know, you say you don't do
it or you didn't do it, But they have a
ninety eight percent conviction rate, and if you do go

(02:27:56):
through with this trial, you're going to be on death
row and you're gonna be killed. You're gonna be murdered,
and they're going to make an example out of you.
So I would say that you better plead to something
likely life in prison, and that also takes the trial
out of the out of the equation. We're not we
won't see a trial, just like Brian Coberger. Although I
don't necessarily think there was a conspiracy with Brian Coburger,

(02:28:16):
but who the hell knows, but especially Tyler Robinson. I
just I'm telling you guys right now, clip this, Clip this, Producer, Chad,
clip this. This will not go to trial. This will
not go to trial. They will not allow this to
happen because there's going to be so many unanswered questions.
For example, you know, a week ago, we just heard
that there was no autopsy done on Charlie Kirk. They

(02:28:38):
sent his body back to Arizona. Then after after about
four or five days where people are like, what no
autopsy done on a political assassination? Are you are? Are
you really shitting me on this? And then and then
we've had some backpedaling. There was some medical examiners or
people in I guess the hospital system that said no,

(02:28:59):
there was I think there was an autopsy done, or
at least a medical examination done, although we have come
to find out I don't even know that a medical
examiner was present at the hospital during the entirety of
the proceedings of Charlie Kirk after he was ruled right dead.
So there's a lot of shit, and especially a political assassination.

(02:29:21):
How do you not have an autopsy?

Speaker 3 (02:29:23):
I mean you think about even like in our area,
whenever there's a murder or there's something that is heinous
or something that is not a natural death, they do autopsy.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
Absolutely. I henters did agree with that. And look, here's
the thing, guys, we have to start understanding that we
live in I don't want to say a simulation, but
there's just there's so much stuff going on that I
just don't understand it, and and I think it's made
that way. I don't think this is by chance. I

(02:29:54):
don't think this is something that that is happening that
we we're just missing. I think there's a lot of
stuff that we just don't understand. And so going forward,
we could do another thirty minutes of this episode.

Speaker 3 (02:30:11):
And we could do ten more episodes about Charlie hook Kirk.
There's so many like conspiracy theories out there and things
going on, and there's so many unanswered questions, and if
it does go federal, we will never know the answers.

Speaker 1 (02:30:30):
Yes, So guys, that's gonna be it for this episode
of Investigator's Podcast. We do have some more stuff to
talk about. I mean, there's stuff coming out every single day.
We're literally at two hours and forty four minutes, so
we you know, with just making sure that this doesn't
take hours to upload, we're gonna stop this episode now.

(02:30:51):
We will reconvene in a couple of days. We will
talk further about the new evidence of Charlie Kirk, what
some people are starting to talk about, will this trial
ever happen? What is the medical examination? We're going to
play maybe some videos of what happened behind Charlie Kirk.
There's even a video which I want to say this,
there's a video and you guys could probably look at it.

(02:31:12):
But there's a video when he goes down, and it's
so weird the fact that he's pointing up in the
sky and he's already down.

Speaker 2 (02:31:20):
You obviously his arm it's AI or something.

Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
No, it's his it's his arm. And and you know,
you saw obviously what happened, you know, right when the
moment of him being shot was. I mean, you saw
how graphic that was. So once he went on the ground,
his security team kind of came around him, you know.
You you the last thing, the last thing you see

(02:31:43):
is his arm raising and pointed up to this guy.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
But in the video they're right at him as he collapses.
It's almost like they catch him. Did you notice that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
In the video?

Speaker 1 (02:31:53):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean they do, they
do that right before, Yeah for sure. But anyways, that's
going to be it for us, guys, until next time.
We love you.

Speaker 2 (02:32:02):
Peace out, peace out, guys,

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