Charlie Kirk Cover-Up? Kash Patel and FBI Clash Over Foreign Links

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Hello and welcome to Investigators podcast. I'm your host chat
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry on tonight's episode. In the
wake of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, federal
officials now find themselves embroiled in a fierce internal dispute
over exactly how far to go in for suing possible
foreign involvement. On one side stands Cash Betel, director of
the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who is reported to have

(01:06):
blocked an inquiry led by the National counter Terrorism Center
under Tulci Gabber and Joe Kent and whether a foreign
power played a role in Kirk's killing. The allegation the
d and i's office sought access to case files to
examine a link abroad, and Betel stepped in. It's a
story that raises our questions about transparency, jurisdiction, and motive.
On one hand, the FBI says it remains committed to

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follow in every lead in the killing. On the other
critics argue that restricting the foreign involvement probe could signal
something deeper, either a desire to keep roots strictly domestic
or a fear of what might be revealed if the
trail crosses borders. Guys, welcome to the show. It is
October the thirty, twenty twenty five. We are up in
the club tonight. That's what it sounds like, actually with
a song I'm Going Underground by Flux of Vortex, and

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I am actually surprised we're already doing another Charlie Kirk episode.
And I hope that you guys are following along with
this because I think this is one of the most
important investigations in the history of the United States of America.
You know, it's I think for a lot of people
in this day and age. It shook a lot of people,
very similarly to probably the jfk assassination, you know, when

(02:14):
Walter Kronkit came on air and announced the death of
John F. Kennedy, the President of the United States. It
just shook people. And this was before that we had
social media. This was before we had instant access and
literally being able to see Charlie Kirk assassinated right in
front of our eyes. I'll never forget that day, and

(02:34):
I'll never forget actually someone sending the clip to me,
and I watched it, not expecting what I was about
to see. And I'm used to like gory stuff and
you name it, but I saw it. And especially the
fact that I had followed Charlie Kirk for so long,
I respected his work. I felt like he was doing
a lot of good for our youth in America. Today

(02:56):
it hit me hard. I mean, and I remember we
did a podcast like three hours after the assassination, and
it was hard to keep it together that entire episode,
and so super sad.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And just to see it, like you said, on National TV, yeah,
or all over the internet, all over X. Just watching
somebody being assassinated in front of your face is really
hard to watch.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, especially someone you almost feel like, you know, right,
I mean, we didn't know Charlie Kirk, but you know,
we actually knew people that knew Charlie Kirk and have
been around Charlie Kirk. But you know, I think there
were so many that felt like they knew Charlie because
of how open he was, because he was on college campuses,
and he had a weekly podcast or show, and he
was on everybody else's show as well. And it's just

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a relationship you kind of start to build with people.
The more you listen to them, the more you think
you feel like you know them. And so if something
happens to them, you care about it, right, You care
deeply about number one. You know, is the investigation going
to be fair? Is it going to be just? And
are they going to get the perpetrator? And there's some
people out there right now, actually a lot more and
you probably think that don't believe that Tyler Robinson is

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even the shooter, right, And there is starting to be
more people that are showing some not necessarily I wouldn't
say proof or receipts, but the fact that maybe Tyler
Robinson never even stepped campus or stepped on campus at
UVU that day.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, a lot of people are saying, how can you
be in two places at once? It's almost impossible. Yeah,
well it is impossible.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And then you have these mass influencers out there, right,
And these influencers they all call themselves conservatives or Republicans,
and one side is calling the other side woke, Republicans
or the woke right. And it's interesting how the people
that are calling the people that are literally just asking
questions and you know, maybe bringing up some conspiracy theories

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or even just you know, some things that are not
adding up. Those people that are calling the other side,
they would probably call us or Candae Owens or whoever
else is asking questions, they call us the wolk right,
And what they called for, by the way, is to
shut them the hell up. Actually, Josh Hammer, which we're
going to get to in just a little bit, we

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all know old Josh Hammer at Turning Point, USA, Well,
he along with I think it was the Daily Mail.
It could have been the Daily Mail. I got the
article actually pulled up. I'll get to that in a minute.
But he went on there, I guess with the Daily Mail,
and they did an article specifically targeting Tucker Carlson and
Nick Fuintest. And this was specifically after the Tucker Carlson

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and Nick Quintest interview that just dropped four or five
days ago. But what they're all doing, what these people
on the typical right right, the same people by the way,
that are you know, lockstep and anything the administration says, right,
maybe three years ago when they were like, release the
Epstein files. We must have the Epstein files. Now, why

(05:53):
is the government hiding the Epstein files from the American people?
What are you covering up? Oh are you? Are you
covering for pedophiles? Are you covering for these people? Now?
As soon as the Trump administration came out, they said, oh,
there's nothing to see here. Anyone that then questioned further
past that you can tell who all the paid influencers are,
because those are the ones that will go out and

(06:13):
attack anyone that is that is asking the same questions
that they ask prior to the administration. The Trump administration
in particular, that took a different stance to where they said,
it's a hoax, there's nothing to see here. So really
I just want to finish. But they're the ones that
are calling us and people that are asking questions, including
still about the Charlie kirkssassination the woke right. But they're

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the ones that are also calling for all of us
to be canceled in, silenced, and shut up, just like
Josh Hammer with the Daily Mail literally called for Nick
Fuintes and Tucker Crasson. However, you want to take the article.
We'll read it in just a bit to be neutralized. Now,
when a lot of people think of neutralize, you think
of being killed. But then, of course he came out
and said that's not what I was meaning by the
term neutralized. But you know, of course Canon Owens and

(06:59):
a lot of people kind of this and said, he's
literally calling for us to be killed. It sounds like,
but would you call someone more woke if they were
trying to cancel the other side, Because that's what the
woke left has always done, is they wanted nothing more
than for their voices to be raised up, and anyone
that contested what they believed or thought they wanted them
canceled in silence.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, and these people on the right, I guess you
want to just call them the right. They want people
to be quiet, and they want them to be silenced now,
and it's just so weird how this whole thing has
played out, and it's really been since the Epstein files,
in my opinion, you know when cash Butttel kind of
changed his tune and said, oh, yeah, there's nothing to
see when that's the whole thing he basically campaigned on. Yeah,

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and then now we saw the Charlie Kirk thing, and
we see more and more divide on the Republican side,
and it makes me wonder is there something more beyond
just this divide?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Did they do this on purpose?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Or I don't know who they are, but are they
dividing the Republican Party on purpose to make it less powerful?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Could this all be a syop?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Could all this be something more than what we're seeing
in front of our eyes?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, I mean, and I've thought about that. Do I
think this is a syop?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Do I think this is some kind of elaborate plan
from the left to divide the Republican Party. I don't
think so. And the reason I'll say that I don't
think so is because I think that the administration and
their handling of all of these things are their own doing.
I mean, this is literally their own doing. Now, if
if the way that maybe you could go into that
is to say that maybe the Deep States doing this

(08:34):
to divide the Republican Party and somebody got a hold
of like Cash Battel and others, Oh yeah, they had
to have. And you know, number one, they may just
be withholding anything that Cash Betel would like to see about.
You know, the Epstein files and so on and so forth.
But even if that was the case, you would think
that the Trump administration and especially Cash, Betail, Dan Mongino,

(08:56):
and Trump himself would come out and say, look, we
do think that Epstein files exist. Obviously, we know the
Epstein files exist because we've had witnesses. We've had you know,
the Gislaine Maxwell troll, We've had even some of the
witnesses turn up dead. And we also know the house
was completely wired. We know all this stuff. He could
at least come out and say, look, we do believe
in the Epstein files, right, we do think that existed

(09:20):
or whatever. We just don't know where they're at. We
don't have access to them. But instead of doing that,
they said it was all a hoax by the Democrats.
This was all something that they wanted to use to
try to divide the Republican Party, and it just sounded
so batshit crazy. And so now Cash Mattel, just like
he did with Epstein Files, he's now stepping in with

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the Charlie kirkstashination because Tulca Gabbard and Joe Kent, which
is the Director of National counter and counter Terrorism d
and I National Intelligence Tulca Gabbard. They want to look
into whether there was foreign involvement and if the FBI
or the government has any inf on that. So what
they wanted was they wanted to start pulling files and

(10:03):
see what they actually had. And this doesn't just mean
necessarily Israel. If you guys are thinking Israel or some
other foreign involvement, this could also potentially mean, you know,
George Soros NGO's potentially funding Antifa. There's a lot of
ways that you could take this, but in specific, you know,
especially with some of the speculation and conspiracy around you

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know the fact that Charlie Kirk was kind of disavow
on Israel with forty eight hours and leading up to
not just forty eight hours but six months, eight months
before he was assassinated, you know, it would be something
that would be very good for this administration to allow
to happen, to investigate and come out in full transparency
and say this is what we found. And the person

(10:45):
that I would put over that would absolutely be Tulsi
Gabbart because I think, in my opinion, Tulsi Gabbart is
one of the least compromised people in the administration as
of right now and yes, she did used to be
a Democrat. She then I think she's we're kind of
in the middle than Republican, but she was a you know,
she's a veteran. But it's interesting because it's over the

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past two or three weeks and then especially now when
we're hearing that maybe there was a shouting match between Cash, Mattel, Tulsi, Gaberder,
Joe Kent. You know, over the past two or three weeks,
we have heard and I've started to see online where
there's kind of this movement that wants to get rid
of Tulsi. Now they're saying that Tulsi is a rhino,
Tulsi is all of this and she just wants to

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destroy the Trump administration from within. We're starting to see
this and who are we starting to see this from
the same political influencers that are going out there and
they are likely getting paid by whatever packs and they're
making money to make sure that the narrative stays alive
for whatever they want to use it for.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I guess well, it just seems like to me, anybody
that's in the Republican Party that is going against the
narrative that the Republican Party wants us to follow. If
you are not right on their line and you want
to question things that don't sound right to you, they're
going against them. It's just like Ron Paul for example,

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Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is another one.
There's a bunch of people that are not staying in
the grain, but they're outside the grain. But because they're
calling for answers and say look, let's look at this thing,
they're like, oh, no, these are the worst Republican.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, you're absolutely right. I mean, if you go against
the narrative, if you step out of line, then you
are going to be well. As Trump has said many times,
if you don't kind of fall in line with the
MAGA movement and what we are, what you know, kind
of what our agenda is, what our narrative is, whatever,
and this is the same thing with any administration in reality,
then you're going to be taken out of office. We're

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going to make sure that we go with whoever is
against you in your district. So so it's a tough
thing for people right now, and it's a tough thing
for people that want to speak out because they could
be primary the Trump administration is going to go out
and they're going to find whoever is running against you
and they're going to try to those people up. So
with this though, this is no different Cash Mattel, he

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shut down the Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe and explosive
feud with Trump's counter terror chief, according to The Daily Mail,
and this goes on to say FBI Director Cash Matel
crushed efforts by Tulci Gabbert's closest advisor to see if
a foreign power was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. The
head of the National counter Terrorism Center, Joe can't analyze

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FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance
from a foreign power. Kent's investigation alarm Patel, who believed
the counter terror chief was overstepping by interfering with an
ongoing FBI investigation. According to The New York Times, Kirk
was shot in the throat by a high powered sniper
rifle while speaking to college students at Utah Valley University

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on September tenth. Tyler Robinson, twenty two, was charged with
the murder and now faces the death penalty if found guilty.
Now The Time spoke with supporters of Kent, who claim
he was doing his job by chasing down any leads
to ensure no foreign groups were involved in Kirk's death.
After Patel discovered Kent had gone through FBI case material
related to the Kirk killing, a tense White House meeting

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was held to discuss the matter. A roundtable meeting between Patel, Kent, Gabbard,
Vice President jd Vance, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles,
and senior DOJ officials were held at the White House.
Kent told administration officials that he granted access to FBI
files by a low ranking agency official. He was granted
the files. The White House meeting was so tense that

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little was accomplished. According to The Times, Trump administration officials
were worried that Kent's probe into foreign interference could provide
ammunition to Robinson's defense lawyers, who could then argue more
than one suspect was involved in Kirk's murder. So that's
very and I want to I just want to stop
here for a second, because that's very very telling. What

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you're saying is is that if you look into this
and you find what we think that you're going to find,
which would be evidence that there was foreign power in
involved in the Charlie Kirk assassination. You were then going
to give Tyler Robinson's defense a case to where he
could literally be found not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt,

(15:11):
because hey, if you release files that say Israel or
Egypt or whoever was actually the ones behind the Charlie
Kirk assassination, then obviously that's going to help the Tyler
Robinson freaking defense, as it should right now, that doesn't
mean that Tyler Robinson still couldn't be the trigger man,
although there's a lot of people that do not believe that,

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just like that, a lot of people don't believe, including us,
that a thirty six was used to kill Charlie Kirk.
None of it makes sense. And in the very initial
stages of the investigation, the FBI, along with the DOJ
came out and showed the rifle. They showed a picture
of it. Then they said it was taken apart, then
it was put back together. It was for sure Tyler Robinson,
though there were so many weird things about it. And

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then you also had, like we've said in the last episode,
you had these people in the crowd that were trying
to divert it tension away from whoever shot Charlie Kirk
to where law enforcement would swarm these people, to where
the shooter or shooters could get away. Now, the article
goes on to say the FBI and dj have traditionally
tightly regulated evidence in active criminal investigations and prosecutions, but

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under the direction of Kent, the counter Terrorism Center collected
material from other intelligence agencies regarding potential foreign ties to Robinson,
as well as evaluated any potential foreign funding from individuals
associated with left wing groups such as Antifa. But there
have been long standard issues regarding jurisdiction between Gabbard's office
and the FBI, and it is not clear if the

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FBI or the counter Terrorism Center is still investigating whether
a foreign power assisted in the murder of Charlie Kirk.
But The Daily Mail reached out to Kent and the
FBI for comment, and the FBI says the FBI and
intelligence community, under the direction of President Trump, will leave
no stone unturned in the investigation of the assassination of
our friend Charlie Kirk, said Bettel and Gabbard in a
joint statement to The Times, confirmed to lead the counter

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Terrorism Center back in July, where he has since focused
on disrupting narco terrorst cells and cartels. And so before
joining Trump administration, Can unsuccessfully ran for Congress in twenty
twenty two and twenty four in Washington, auction himself as
a MAGA loyalist. Now, the interesting thing about this is
that Fox News has this article a little different obviously

(17:22):
because this is Fox News and Fox No reason why
I say is Fox News is because the Trump administration
is in power now. They are in office, so Fox
News can't just necessarily go out there and say whatever
the hell they want to say, and so they're leading
title for this article says FBI source pushes back on
report of internal rift over Charlie Kirk case files. And

(17:42):
let's just let me let you hear how this is
worded differently, and it says a high ranking source is
downplay in recent reporting about internal tensions between FBI and
National Counterintelligent counter Terrorism Center over files connected to the
assassination of Turningpoint USA founder Charlie Kirk. And it says
the NCT is part of the Office of Director of
National Intelligence. It's director, Joe Kent, was recently looking into

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the assassination case, reportedly ruffling feathers among FBI leadership, including
Director Cash Betel, who thought he was overstepping his duties
and potentially interfering with the case against twenty two year
old suspected assassin Tyler Robinson. But the source told Fox
News Digital that tensions in the report were exaggerated and
that there was no serious dispute between the agencies or

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the leaders. The FBI and od NI said in a
joint statement they were not only working together but also
with federal law markers on a united front. And it
says as Kent was reportedly looking to ties to terror groups,
including Antifa. So that's all it says, right, so it
wants to make sure this like look terror groups or Antifa.
That's all you have to know about that. Definitely not

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looking at anything else. And you know this is not
necessarily the case, because what I will say is, like
I know, for example, D and I Director of National Intelligence,
Tulsea Gabbard, you know, she definitely for sure has been
critical of you know, Israel's and APAC and all that
stuff with the US government. Obviously Marjorie Taylor Green has
as well. She's oftentimes said the exact same things. And

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so if I had to guess, and especially with all
the conspiracies, and you've got to remember, you know, Tolci
gabbartt has been on the podcast Circuit. She's been on
that podcast, Sirguit for two or three years. She has
dove into a lot of the same conspiracies and stuff
that we talk about on the show. So I can
only imagine that if you are the director of National Intelligence,
you're seeing all this stuff out there, would you not

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want to be the one that goes and says, hey,
Joe Ken or whoever, go look into this. Let's see
if there is anything on foreign involvement, whether it's Israel, Egypt,
you know, Open Society Foundation, George Soros, look at it all.
So we know, right, because that's what the government officials
should do, especially if you are an investigating agency, or

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an intelligence agency or a federal law enforcement agency. Your
job should be, as they say in the joint statement,
not leaving any stone unturned. And I do find an
interest in how they both came out in a joint
statement that said the same thing. But it's almost like
when you hear that, I hear it in my head
like Cash Hotel is like, yeah, we're definitely gonna make

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sure there's no stone unturned. And then it's like I
hear it also in my head where Tulsa Gabbert's like, yeah,
there will definitely be no stone unturned, you know what
I mean. It's like you see two parts of the
joint statement. Now, a very interesting tidbit also about Cash
Betel is that he promoted every agent that was involved

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in Operation Arctic Frost and fired the director of the
FBI's Utah field office two weeks before the Charlie Kirks assassination.
That's what we're hearing now. I'll explain in just a
moment what Operation Arctic Frost was, and it will probably
surprise you the fact that he promoted these people instead
of firing them. But here's Ryan Matta and he released

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this video today. Listen.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
FBI Director Patel promoted all of these people in Artic Frost,
but yet he fired the person in Utah weeks before
the Charlie kirk assassination.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So you know what's funny is.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I just recorded a video on Operation Artic Frost and
it wasn't until the Hodge Twins tweeted this out and
he said, hey, FBI Director Cash, why are you letting
criminals work at the FBI?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
And then I looked down.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
It says Aaron Trapp, head of San Antonio, John roth Rock,
head of FBI Dallas, James Barnacle, head of FBI Charlotte.
And then he goes down to Devin Kowalski, head of
FBI Puerto Rico, child trafficking hub, Wayne Jacobs, head of Philadelphia.
Absolute fucking cesspool. So then I started thinking to myself, Wait, wait,

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they didn't Cash just fucking dunk some chick over at Utah.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So you mean to.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Tell me the agents that were running Operation Arctic Frost.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Had had had head head.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
But yet you can the head of Utah, some chick
who is a military vet served this country because she
was allegedly a DEI.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
And yet all of these as clowns.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
That were literally committing treason, They were subverting our government.
They knew that they rigged the election, and then they
were going out and trying to target anybody who spoke
out or questioned it.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And Cash has promoted all of them.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
But yet the chick who is going to be responsible
for overseeing the Charlie Kirk assassination. She magically got shit
cannon replaced make that one make sense.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Folks, Okay. So to elaborate on what Operation Arctic Frost
was is the code name for the investigation by the
Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Department of
Justice launched in April twenty two to focused on alleged
efforts to influence or overturn the twenty twenty US presidential
election outcome, and so the operation included investigation of so

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called fake elector schemes, alternate states of electors, efforts to
pressure state officials, and broader involvement of public and private
sector actors tied to the twenty twenty election dispute. And
according to recently released documents and whistle lower disclosures via
Senate oversight, the investigation expanded from an initial focus on
select individuals to a much broader sweep of conservative and

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Republican aligned organizations, groups or people. So the FBI, under
its Political Law or Election Interference TRACKS is a lead agency.
The FBI was the main lead on this The DOJ,
particularly via Special Council or politically sensitive oversight channels, were
the secondary in charge of this investigation to where anyone

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that questioned the twenty twenty election that thought maybe it
was stolen or rigged. These people, the FBI and the
people that he just talked about. Who Cash Mattel promoted,
I think the five or six guys that now they
are over their agencies in various cities in America. Cash
matel promoted all of these guys. And these were the
five or six guys that were the lead investigators into this.

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Keep it in mind, that's crazy. And then you have
the Senate oversight of figures in Congress, for example, Chuck Grassley,
Senate Judiciary Committee chair Ron Johnson, he was the permanent
Subcommittee on Investigations. They have released documents pertaining to Operation
Arctic Frost. And then there were individual targets or subjects
in the investigation. Notably, the government issued cell phones of

(24:37):
Donald Trump and Mike Pence were reportedly seized or obtained
by the FBI under this investigation. And from what we understand,
you know, I don't know if you guys remember when
they rated Trump's house and they did all this stuff. Well,
there was a lot of things that were taken from
Trump's residences during all of this that they kind of
you know that was the classified documents case is what

(24:58):
they called it. But there was a lot of things
that they picked up in those raids that they used
for this Operation Arctic Frost. Okay, so stay with me
here because I don't know if you guys remember the
Venezuela episode that we did where when we talked about
China and Russia and where we were just trying to
figure out like, why would the United States want to
actually go into Venezuela Because I don't necessarily believe us

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about you know, Narco drug cartels and all this stuff.
We do know that China and Russia has involvement in Venezuela.
But the very interesting thing is that the Deep State
in particular, and I also think obviously the globalusts like
George Soros and Open Saide Foundation and others, they have
a pretty big stronghold in Venezuela. In terms of this
is actually where the voting systems during the twenty twenty

(25:44):
elections seem to have come from was Venezuela, which is
just also very interesting. But you also have to remember
keep this in mind as we go through cash MATEL
fired two weeks prior to the Charlie Kirk assassination the
director of the Utah Filled Office of the FBI, and
promoted and this was actually he promoted these guys before.

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I believe he fired two weeks before. He said yeah, no,
the two weeks before was he fired the girl in Utah.
I don't know exactly when he promoted the Operation Arctic
Frost FBI leaders. He doesn't really matter, but he fired
the girl because he said his DEI. I mean, or
is that just a coincidence? Was she really DEI? And
she's over the Utah Field Office the FBI? Was she

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maybe too close to maybe what was coming two weeks later?
I mean, I know that's conspiracy theory. But and then
conservative organizations, they were Republican political nces. For example, the
documentation shows involvement of groups such as Turning Point USA
and other GOP aligned organizations, so they were also these
same guys. Keep in mind, these five guys that were

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that were the ring leaders of Operation Arctic Frost have
now been promoted, and one of the main organizations that
Operation Arctic Frost was investigating and seasoned information from was
Turning Point USA. Isn't that interesting? I spelled something stinky?
And by the way, Ryan Matta. Nobody has mentioned this yet,

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like nobody on the internet has talked about how their
investigation in the Turning Point USA was was very deep.
During Operation Arctic Frost, they potentially, you know, I don't know,
like if you remember where the FBI and I guess
the Clintons and the Deep State was essentially spying on
the Trump campaign and you know, they were looking through emails,
and they were tapping phones and you name it. They

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were doing all this illegal shit. I can almost guarantee
you that Operation Arctic Frost was doing the exact same
thing to Turning Point USA. But why, why were they right?
And who were they doing it for? Because the one
thing I can say, and there's there's a lot of
people and look, there's a lot of law enforcement to
listen to our podcast, but even law enforcement guys know

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that like just yes, most law enforcement is good, and
we support law enforcement, you know, kind of in a
blanket way. We know that law enforcement has to exist,
law and order has to exist. All of that stuff happens.
There's absolutely bad apples. The problem is, like with the
FBI and these federal agencies, is that when there are

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leaders put in place for political reasons, or geopolitical reasons,
or foreign or even potentially foreign influence reasons. That's where
it becomes a problem. Or are there are good agents
in the FBI. Absolutely, Do they have any power whatsoever
with how investigations go or don't go. No, Because if
there are actually good FBI agents that would actually do

(28:38):
the right things, say there is a cover up in
this Charlie Kirk assassination, right, Just say there is, and
say that there was actually good FBI agents that had
the opportunity to be promoted, that would actually go after
these leads that might really shake up like reality for
a lot of people. Well, number one, they would never
be able to hold those positions because they would be fire,

(29:00):
just like likely the girl in Utah was fired for.
But the dirty ones, the pieces of shit in most cases,
are the ones they're promoted. And this is especially what
happens in federal agencies. I don't understand why Cash is
doing it, but right now, the way I feel about Cash,
matel and I hate to say this, but the way
I feel about him is I feel like that it

(29:21):
almost feels like that if you've ever been in New
York City or some big city and you know, maybe
this was like twenty years ago and someone maybe it's
the first time you ever been in New York City
and there's a panhandler that comes up to you and
he shows you this Rolex watch for like I don't know,
a thousand bucks, and you're like, damn, that's a hell
of a deal, Like I gotta buy this, right, He's
like a panhandler. He had been a panhandler, I think

(29:43):
for a couple of years leading up to his nomination
as FBI director, And I don't think it was accidental.
I don't think it was coincidental that he was actually
nominated and then put in place as the FBI director.
I don't think it was coincidental that for two years,
and especially the the year previous to the twenty twenty
four election, that he was on every podcast talking about

(30:05):
all the amazing things he was going to do.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So you think he was just playing everyone for two
years prior to him becoming FBI director, I think it
was all planned. If he was playing everyone, including us,
was he playing Trump or is Trump in on it?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's a great question, and I don't know. Right here,
let me give you a good example actually of this too.
Do you remember when so Elon Musk bought X right,
and this was a forty three billion dollar deal. And
this is when that a lot of people were starting
to feel like they were actually seeing the truth. They're like, oh,

(30:42):
we got a free speech platform. Now we're starting to
see all the truth here, right. For once, we're starting
to see the truth. But as time has went on,
you start to see these influencers that thinking back on it,
especially about cash Buttel For example, I remember when it
was no one really knew at the time who was
going to be the FBI director, but I did. I

(31:05):
do remember that there was this mass push on X
in particular for cash matel. Yes, of course we were,
because we were watching podcasts of them. We were also
seeing the influence on social media about the mass movement
of everybody that said nobody but cash I think was
a hashtag. Now, going back to this, some of these

(31:25):
people that were leading the charge of this hashtag, these
people had millions and millions of followers. And these people
were people like cat Turd, were people like I mean,
there was a lot of these Republican influencers that were
pushing this hashtag with their millions of followers to create
this kind of push for cash Bettel to be put

(31:46):
in place. But then also like if I look at
those same people today, and I know how freaking completely
full of shit they are in so many ways to
where they are the narrative keepers. They are the ones
that they get paid what to say, and they cannot
step out of line and if they do, they're no
longer going to get paid. Well, those are the same
people that most people thought. Why cash Betel was put

(32:08):
into place as the FBI director or was that just
a cover because they already knew he was going to
be the FBI director. They wanted to make it look
like that the people wanted to cash Mattel as the
FBI director. See look at social media, guys, look at
all these people, look at the hashtags trending. But it
was all really just a I think it was an
influencer operation, and I think it was an operation on

(32:31):
behest of probably the Deep State. Actually I don't think
it was Trump. I don't think I think the deep
State knew the likelihood of Trump winning and or they
wanted Trump to win by a landslide. For whatever reason,
maybe they felt like, hey, I think that we might
be able to control this guy more than we think
we can, and we can do it in all of
these different ways. I just I personally don't. I feel

(32:54):
like there are a lot of people that are placed
and were put into place for a reason, not necessar
early by Trump. And I also still believe that Matt
Gates was taken out of the Attorney General spot for
REE two.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I do too, because he was gone quicker than he
could say hello. When they did the first day of interrogations.
They went crazy on him, and he said, it's best
for me to step back now. He didn't even try
to go through it because everyone went through it. But
I guess because they had that stuff on him that
he was supposedly dating this younger girl or whatever, and

(33:28):
it just didn't look good. But yeah, I don't think
they really wanted him in there. And then they placed
in Pam Bondi and I know that you don't like
current and I think that she's kind of on the
same page as Cash Battel. And what's crazy about Cash
Battel is when he was on all these podcasts, he's like,
I know about the Epstein files, I have seen some

(33:49):
of them, I have read some of them. And for
him to come back and blatantly lie to us and say, no,
there is no files. We haven't seen anything. The only
files are is about child porn, like Pam Bondy was saying.
He's saying there's nothing to see here.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, that's a great point you make actually with that,
because you know that's something I never mentioned when he
got when he when he used to go on podcasts,
I always forget to mention like he did actually used
to say like I've seen some of these files, right
like and and and day one, we're going to expose this.
I never say that. So I'm glad you said that absolutely.
And that's a big problem because if you want to

(34:25):
know if he's lying or not, well, which which time
was he lying? Was he lying back when he was
on podcast over and over and over again by saying
that he's seen some of these files, He's talked to
people inside of these different agencies that have seen the
files and and and further files and all this stuff
like was he lying then or is he lying now?
And I think most people believe he's lying now. Now.

(34:45):
We don't necessarily know whoever took over cash Buttel's soul,
because obviously someone did. I think it's the devil, but
I think beyond that, like who are the physical handlers
of cash? Hotel's soul someone has taken over.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And just real quick bringing up Dan Bongino, did he
know how Cash was? Would he have joined the FBI
and then the deputy if he would have known what
he knows now? Because I feel like there's a lot
of friction between Cash and Dan as well.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, well, I mean I don't know if you remember,
like seven months ago when there was the word that
Dan Bongino was about to quit walk out right, and
this was from internal sources. They were saying, look, Dan
Bonino is about to quit and walk out. I remember
that someone had said back in the day, even when
Dan was doing a show that like if he woke
up and saw a bad comment or like a bad

(35:36):
email or someone questioned his integrity even on his show,
that he it really bothered him throughout the day. And
so I can't even imagine, like right now, what this
stuff is doing to him, because I mean, there are
people that are tagging him, there are people that are
sharing his old post, there are people that are doing
a lot of this, and it's like he just lockstup.

(35:58):
He doesn't really say anything about it personal personal feelings anymore.
The unfortunate part is that, regardless, I think a lot
of people are starting to realize that Dan Bongino is
now also compromised and like, what is being the deputy
director of the FBI worth? Like what is it really worth?
Because are you ever going to be able to if

(36:18):
you leave or are fired from that position, are you
able to go back to your show and get people
to trust you ever?

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Again?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I bet he wishes he never even accepted that
position now.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I don't know, he probably does, because you know, if
you're the deputy director of the FBI, that's like on
your resume, you're going to be able to kind of
do basically whatever for the rest of your life. You're
kind of protected for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
But you're not being protected from your own integrity.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I know, I get it, but you know it's something
that he's going to have to wrestle with. I would
venture to say, depending on how this stuff keeps going,
whether or not or how long Dan Bongino will actually
be able to stay as the Deputy Director of the FBI.
And I also will say that I don't think Tulsi
Gabbert will last very long either, and especially she keeps
ruffling feathers, kind of dig in, getting Joe Kent to

(37:04):
dig on some things. You know. It's almost kind of
like a movie. It literally is, this whole thing is
unfolding like a movie.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
But I wonder how close Tulsi is with Trump and
does he trust her or is he just gonna kick
her out everybody else that goes against him.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think he will kick her out faster than anybody
because she will be the outlier. She will be the
outlier that is not you know, standing in line and
and kissing the hand, you know, and whatever. You know,
she's not going to be that. And maybe she does,
maybe she goes forward, and that's what has to happen
if she wants to keep that position. But it's just

(37:40):
you know, and also there's probably going to be you know,
when you're in this kind of environment, right, you would
think that if you've got FBI director and Pam Bondi
and all these big time officials now and Trump himself
and Steven Miller and you kind of everybody, and then
you're the outlier, right, And so then there's going to
be starting there's going to be pressure that is going

(38:01):
to start being put on you. This is going to
be like, hey, you're either gonna you know, stay in line.
We better not start hearing this shit about you reaching
out or you getting someone to reach out to Alex Jones,
which you are going to play a clip from that
in just a moment. But there has been people reaching
out to Alex Jones in the administration saying exactly what
happened and how bad it really was, and like what

(38:23):
is to come, and we're going to play that in
just a second. So then also I want to play
another quick clip because the Heritage Foundation, Now, the Heritage
Foundation is kind of like a Turning Point USA. But
the Heritage Foundation is I guess they have some think tanks.
They are a foundational organization to where they help conservatives
win in different places throughout the nation. They also have

(38:44):
supported Trump and all of Trump's appointees, and you know,
Republican senators and congress people just think of Heritage Foundation
as very similar to Turning Point USA. And so a
lot of people have started to say, especially after the
Nick Fintest and Tuck Carlson interview, that the Heritage Foundation
is it's a distance in themselves from Tucker Carlson. This

(39:07):
has been all over the internet. We have seen that
comment from those same people that I'm talking about, those
Republican influencers that are all saying almost exactly the same
thing after the Tucker and Nick Fintes interview, the Heritage
Foundation is distancing themselves from Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And so this was a big thing and everybody was like, see,
Tucker is about to lose everything. Tucker's about to be canceled.
He's done. And it's all because they're asking the questions
that you're forbidden to ask. Right. They don't want you
to talk about this. They don't want you to talk
about anything that is against kind of the or well,

(39:49):
I guess what, yes, foreign nations, or they don't want
you to ever talk about something that they consider taboo,
is what I'm trying to say. But here is what
the founder, Kevin Robert of the Heritage Foundation came out
and said in a video today. And I got to
say I respect this response, and especially to pressure and

(40:10):
all of these political pundits and these influencers that we're
creating this narrative that Tucker Carlson is going to be
left high and drive by the Heritage Foundation, and they're
no longer going to support Tucker Crossing, but they came
out today with the video in response to that. Listen.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
I'll have more to say on this in the coming days,
but today I want to be clear about one thing.
Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti Semitic,
and of course anti Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty
as a Christian and as an American is to christ
first and to America always. What it serves the interests

(40:47):
to the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies,
we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology.
But when it doesn't, Conservatives should feel no obligation to
reflexive support any foreign government, no matter how loud the
pressure becomes from the globalist class or from their mouthpieces
in Washington. The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone

(41:11):
of the conservative movement by canceling our own people or
policing the consciences of Christians, and we won't start doing
that now. We don't take direction from comments on x
though we are grateful for the robust, free speech debate.
We also don't take direction from members or donors, though
we are inherently grateful for their support, and we're adding

(41:33):
more every day. This is the robust debate we invite
with our colleagues, our movement, friends, our members, and.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The American public.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
We will always defend truth, We will always defend America,
and we will always defend our friends against the slander
of bad actors who serve someone else's agenda. That includes
Tucker Carlson, who remains and as I have said before,
always will be a close friend of the Heritage Foundation.
The venomous coalition attacking him are sowing division. Their attempt

(42:06):
to cancel him will fail. Most importantly, the American people
expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on
the left, not attacking our friends on the right. I
disagree with and even a poor things that Nick Flintes says,
but canceling him is not the answer either. When we

(42:27):
disagree with the person's thoughts and opinions, we challenge those
ideas and debate. And we have seen success in this
approach as we continue to dismantle the vile ideas of
the left. As my friend Vice President Vance said last night.
What I am not okay with is any country coming
before the interest of American citizens. And it is important

(42:48):
for all of us, assuming we are American citizens, to
put the interest of our own country first. That's where
our allegiance lies, and that's where it will stay.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I could not have said it better Kevin Roberts, and
that literally makes me want to donate to the Heritage
Foundation just for that message. I mean, because this is
something that is taboo though to say, you know, and
he said it as best as you possibly can. You know,
you should be able to critique foreign nations, especially I mean,

(43:21):
if we can critique our own nation, but we can't
critique other nations, and especially one in particular, that's troubling.
That's weird, that's strange. And I was, you know, I was,
this is I'm not getting into the you know, the
Israel thing. But I was on the phone last night
with a close friend of ours and we were talking
a little bit about that, and I said, you know,
I said, I think the problem is that I think

(43:44):
number one, if you want to go biblically, like a
lot of people just don't understand the Bible in certain
aspects when it comes to Israel. But also I also
think that because of the Israel thing that's going on
and has been going on, a lot of people were
kind of you know, woken up to it. I think
it's also keeping a lot of people away from from

(44:04):
Christianity in some ways or just or or or building
their hate for Israel or or even Jews in some cases.
I mean, you know that the anti Semitism thing is
getting worse because of the protections or the and it's
sides of speech of it, even right, like you're not
allowed to say this, and whenever you tell like if
you tell a kid you're not allowed to do something,

(44:25):
guess what he's gonna do. He's gonna go do it.
And so by by being so hardcore about it, I
think you're just making the problem worse. And are there
real anti Semitics out there? Absolutely are there people out
there that do not have you know, beliefs or or
that those that hatred towards Jews that also you know,

(44:45):
feel like they can critique Israel. Absolutely, So I just
wanted to make that clear. And I also wanted to
play another video and this this is Marjorie Taylor Green.
Although listen, I will be honest with you, I do
not understand why Marjorie Taylor Green is literally going on
the View again, and I think this is the second time,
but she's going on the view. Well, she's trying to

(45:06):
hit that population. I guess I know, but I don't.
I don't quite understand it because it just it kind
of hurts a little bit of the things that she says,
and especially when you go sit with these crazy ladies
that they've been nothing but psycho and crazy for years
and all they have done is just talk stupid crazy shit,
uh and and lie on an everyday basis. I don't

(45:28):
understand why she's doing that. But she does make a
good point here when she says that influencers now are
the new mainstream media. We've been saying this for months.
And when I say that, like you can't believe what
you hear on mainstream media. You also have to be
very very careful about what you listen to and who
you follow in social media. Listen and the first.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
Trump administration we found out about fake news, right that
CNN by all that stuff, and then we went through
the Biden administration and it was like, oh my god,
the whole censorship regime of canceling people for being against
COVID vaxes and mass mandates and lockdowns and on and
on and on. But now we're moving into something and

(46:14):
I think you're at the tip of the spear. You
and quite a few others, you guys, have come up
against something that is now being revealed, and that's the
paid propaganda social media influencers. It's so much which I
think is bigger and more dangerous potentially. So that's bigger
and more dangerous than like fake new CNN ever was,

(46:34):
because they're everywhere. They're everywhere, and then what they do
what's dangerous about it is they have all their propaganda
talking points and it's like a hive mind. It's like
it's like thousands of little bees and they're all saying
the same thing. So they're convincing the masses that they
have to agree and believe this.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yes, I agree with that. And you know, it's funny
because there's been people that you've even been close to
throughout this podcast, you know, more than one. I guess
I can say that I think that I feel like
maybe they're being funded now, you know, I truly believe
that without a doubt and I could be wrong. I

(47:14):
could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I
don't think I am, because if you look at how
they're doing things now. I'm not necessarily saying one particular person,
there's a couple, but if you look at how some
of these people are doing things now, and then you
go to some of the other people that I have
called out and talked about on this show, like they're

(47:36):
messaging their responses to other people's posts, their tweets, or
they're they're all the same, they're all very similar.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Well, do you remember, like what she was saying during
like the COVID thing, for example, you could have fifty
people that were news anchors and put them side by
side and exactly the same words came out of everyone's mouth.
I don't know if you remember that.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, absolutely no, I mean, and it's kind of the.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Same thing with the paid influencers now, and like she said,
it could be way more damaging because people almost trust
influencers now more than media.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Look, I can promise you this.
We're not getting paid or influenced by anybody, and I
don't think we ever would be. And I say, I
don't think, but I mean, you know, if someone wanted
wanted to come and pay us something that I truly
believe right and say, look, you know, this is what
we got to do, and you know I would only
do it if I truly believed.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Well, Gavin news is paying us on our commercials.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I heard, yeah, we have heard. Yeah, there's Gavin Newsome
commercials on our show.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
We cannot help that we have enabled political advertisements. But
for you guys, hopefully you do not listen to that garbage.
He's just wasting his money on our podcast. But yeah,
there's been people say, hey, by the way, guys, you
got Gavin Newso commercials on your podcast now. And I
was like, even during the COVID thing when the vaccine
rolled out, yeah, we had VACS commercials on our podcast
where we were talking shit and about the vaccine. We

(49:05):
were like, hey, guys, the vaccine's deadly and it's like
and then five minutes later it's like, try the pvisor
vaccine safe and effective, you know, and it's like, damn,
who is their marketer? Like who's actually doing this? Because
I would never put a vaccine commercial on our podcast.
I mean, are you are you doing that? Just so
in hopes that like one person has been listening, like, yeah,

(49:26):
you know what, I knew it that can change one
mind on this podcast absolutely And you know, Cannae, someone's
posted to your point, Sherry, and she said covid Epstein
and now Charlie Kirk and it says Number one, something
terrible happens. Number two, government officials tell us absurd lies.
Number three, public demands the truth. Number four experts begin

(49:48):
diagnosing people who are demanding the truth. And she points
to you are here right, and then the people were
proven correct. This is what we see time and time
and time again. Now, also to that notion, Candace Owens
went on to say that there's a lot of people
feel in this way about Cash Hotel, and this is
something that we've been talking about in the last ten minutes.

(50:10):
I wanted to let you hear what Canda says about
Cash Hotel on last night's episode. It's just a couple
of minutes. We'll listen regarding.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
Cash Buttel showing his face there, I legitimately do not
know how these people do it, Okay, I would literally
die from shame. I would pass away right immediately from shame.
Before I would show up to that event if I
was Cash Hotel, like, did they breed it out? Is
this a new breed of human that I don't know about?
Where you feel nothing? There's just nothing. It's like the

(50:39):
Josh Hammer thing. They don't feel any sense of shame
at all, and they can just go, go, go, go, go,
and pretend that you're honoring. I don't understand it. I
truly don't understand that, because I have to be a
different species from whatever that is. I would Melt'd rather
melt into the floor than show my face knowing how
badly I was dropping the ball.

Speaker 11 (51:00):
The whole world knows dropping the ball. How do you
show up to work, Cash Betel?

Speaker 10 (51:05):
And the answer is he shows up to work and
he demands that everybody stop looking into it because he's
got it under control.

Speaker 11 (51:10):
He wants to be.

Speaker 10 (51:11):
He's got a very small team of people at the
FBI that are allowed to touch anything pertaining to the
Charlie Kirk case because you know.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
This is transparency. Finally the adults are in charge.

Speaker 10 (51:21):
It's gonna be the most transparent administration ever except on
the Jeffrey Ebstein stuff. For the Charlie Kirk stuff, who
was a friend of the administration. That's we got to
be a little bit opaque on real headline New York
Times yesterday pertaining to how upset Cash Battel was when
he received an inquiry from Joe Kent Tolcy Gabbert's office,

(51:44):
they lead the National counter Terrorism Okay Center, Joe Kent
does and him inquiring about details into this apparently alarmed
Cash Hotel.

Speaker 11 (51:54):
Because Cash Btel was alarmed, he called a meeting.

Speaker 10 (51:56):
In fact, right, he wanted to invent to gate the assassination,
pretting to Joe Kent. They were like, hey, maybe people
overseas were involved in his murder. Maybe they were thinking,
bebe saying too much? Can we look Can we just
look at these files because it's our job overseas terrorism.

Speaker 11 (52:15):
And Cash Betel was.

Speaker 10 (52:16):
So alarmed by this, so alarmed that they would look
into these files that he held a meeting apparently, oh
what are you This is not appropriate, not appropriate for
you to be looking into this, okay. We don't want
you knowing whether or not there was a foreign power
or another entity that was involved in this. And this
is the reason that Cash Bettel decided to have a

(52:37):
meeting with Susie Wiles and Joe Kent and Tulci Gabbard
and Trump officials. I think it said Jade Vance was
in this meeting as well, and nothing was accomplished, Because
why wouldn't you, if you're the most transparent administration ever
share get the help, Hey fos to be partners in this.

Speaker 11 (52:52):
Don't we all want to find out who killed Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
We do, And you know, Cash Tell does not want
people looking into this at all. He does not want
anybody looking into any foreign involvement in the Charlie Kirk assassination.
So I want to read this article that Josh Hammer
alongside Daily Mail decided to do after the Nick Finn

(53:18):
does in Tucker Carlson interview. Now, if you guys don't
think that this is a propaganda hit piece that is
influenced and paid by someone, then I don't know what
to tell you. Just listen to the way this is.
So the title was Tucker Crlson just hit a new
low with this heinous betrayal of my friend Charlie Kirk,

(53:41):
who is surely now rolling in his grave. Josh Hammer
and so Daily Mail Plus basically brought in Josh Hammer
as a writer on this big article that they spent
tons of money pushing a lot of money. They spent
a lot of marketing money pushing this article. And it's
on Monday evening. The most dangerous man in America, Tucker Cralson,

(54:04):
he says, set to interview a confused millennial. Now, the pair,
who for months had been regaling the masses with a
bit of a low rent turf or implying the other
was an undercover fed or federal agent, decided to drop
the fox hatchet once and for all. They did so

(54:26):
not necessarily because they care for one another, but because
of their shared passion for tackling a mutual foe, Western civilization,
which for millennia has claimed the Hebrew Bible Old Testament
as this pre eminent moral and legal wellspring. Just to
be clear, I'm not talking about George Soros and Hassan Piker.

(54:46):
This was a chat between the erstwhile king of cable News,
Tucker Cralson, and Nick Fuintes, the Holocaust denier who has
been a leading anti Semitic provocateur since he first burst
onto the political commentary scene a decade ago. Fuintest perhaps
most infamous for a twenty nineteen rant where he and

(55:07):
analogized Jews massacred by Nazis to the Sesame Street character
cookie Monster bacon cookies in an oven, in an attempt
to explain why six million dead Jews at the hand
of the Nazis just doesn't make sense, stayed true to
his form during the Carson Interview Carlson Interview. At various points,
fintest mused about the evils of organized jury and contended

(55:28):
that his discredited neo conservatism cannot be divorced from Jewishness.
The host response, in turn, was so fallen that it
amounted to a laundering of Fuintes repungent beliefs. Fuintes, who
has personally called me philt and said that Jews like
me and broadcaster Mark Levin are not American and do
not belong here, predictably claimed yet again on Carlson Show

(55:49):
that American Jews put the interest of Israel over the
interests of their own country in a monstrous, destructive lie.
He claimed that Jews hate your European because the Romans
destroyed the temple in Jerusalem to millennia ago, it's simply preposterous.
But the Jewish people themselves only represent the tip of
the spear of what carlson fuintes cabal represents. Carlson personally

(56:11):
saved his most seething hatred for his fellow Christians and
those of a Zionists disposition in particular. Specifically, Carlson said
that Christian Zionists are a dangerous heretics, that he despises
them more than anyone else on earth, certainly more than
the Sharia law proponents, of whose behalf Carlson has taken

(56:32):
curiously to offering meek apologia. Ironically, it is Carlson himself
who is the Christian heretic, and in August podcast episode,
Carlson confessed to his guest that he just read his
Bible's Old Testament for the first time last year, and
that he was shocked by the violence and genocide he
encountered therein and the pastor, due to his familiarity with

(56:52):
the neophytes and having read the Bible prior to his
mid fifties, didn't take debate. As I noticed last month,
the contention that God of the Hebrew Bible is not
the God of the New Testament is quite literally heretical
on Christianities on terms. In fact, the fringe doctrine that
there are two gods, a ventual Old Testament God and
a benevolent God revealed through Jesus Christ. Make no mistake,

(57:14):
there is a sprawl and information operation of foot that
has its goal the fracturing of the a Syminical Jewish
Christian biblical alliance that long ago built and which can
alone sustain Western civilization, and that civilization leading light the
United States. That's literally what that verse says, right, not verse,

(57:36):
but verse. That's literally what that paragraph says. I think
there's some typos there. The operation has this leading objectives,
the distancing of evangelical Christians from the Jewish people and
the distancing of the United States from Israel. The operatives
are cheering on the West Islamist and globalist enemies, whether
they care to admit it or not. Carlson is their

(57:58):
leading propagandists in flintes and opportunistic clickchaser is along for
the ride. One man who was decidedly not along for
the Hellish jaunt with some someone. Carlson now has the
audacity to purport to represent the and memorialize my late friend,
and as a noted Christian Zionist Charlie Kirk, perhaps no
one in America despised Nick Fintes more than Kirk. Fuint

(58:19):
Test tormented Kirk and his now widow Erica for years
on end, and over the fact Kirk would not allow
Fintest to attend Kirk's Turning Point USA conferences. In his
final months, Kirk's hostility towards Fintes only hardened. He was
horrified to see the raging bigot gain traction and right
of center circles, something he privately confided in me and

(58:40):
few others. And by the way, this part of this
article I call complete bullshit, just so you know. And
the reason why I call bullshit, I'm not saying that
that Fuintes and and Charlie Kirk had a great relationship.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
They did it, didn't They hated each Fuintes even came
out and said that that they were pretty much rivals.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yes, yeah, they were. And and then Nick fuint has
kind of responded to this article, which we'll play that
clip in just a second. But but what I think
is interesting is that he he You also can't believe
what Josh Hammer says because he's already been proven to
be a liar based on what he said on other
podcasts before before cannas was released, wasn't around him for you? No, no, no,

(59:25):
what no, no, I'm saying that when Candice released the
text messages saying that Charlie Kirk was basically disavalant and
and he was literally the one that was, you know,
writing back. That's what I'm saying so, and it also
says in his final months, Kirk's hostility towards fint has
only hardened. And he was the most pro Christian Zionist

(59:46):
basically on the planet, is what he's still saying in
an article, although we know that now to not be
true now as of Salem Broadcast Network colleague Densh de
Suzan revealed yesterday Kirk was livid at Desuza for recently
uh deigniting the debate Fuintes. Kirk called Fuintes a vermin.
None of this was news to me. Kirk himself had
encouraged me to express Desusa my own fresh frustrations. I

(01:00:09):
neglected to do so for that very simple reason that
Desuza so thoroughly and effectively skewered Frontes in their debate.
But I have no doubt that Kirk is now rolling
in his grave after Carlson's latest stunning act of anti
Western subjugation and personal betrayal. Carlson fuintes Canisians and their
entire disreputable ilk and incapable of acknowledging that an American

(01:00:30):
might simply support the Jewish people because he sees in
the Jews the origins of monotheism and thus all Western morality.
They refuse to concede that an American might support close
knit US Israel relations, not due to moral or financial blackmail,
but due to an earnest assessment that the alliance furthers
American interest. They can't bring themselves to admit such basic

(01:00:50):
points because to do so would undermine the assertation that
has become most foundational to their fetted worldview. The Jews
are responsible for all Americans ills. The Americans must therefore
abandon them, and in order for this to happen, it
is not that that the statistically insignificant Jews must necessarily
come to load themselves, but that those statistically very significant

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Christians must come to loathe the Jews. If this looks
like a war on MAGA and the modern American right,
that's because that is exactly what it is. Carlson and
his Klan have declared that their jihad the not on
the woke forces of the civilization arson on the atle
brain left, but on the forces of civilization sanity on
the MAGA right. They hope to burn down MAGA and

(01:01:34):
build a neo pagan, anti Western, anti Biblical movement in
its steed, the Fox is now comfortably enconstant in the Henhouse,
and unless the Fox is neutralized, the victim could be
the entire extent GOP coalition itself. So that is what
he says at the end. And I don't think that,

(01:01:58):
by the way, that Tucker Carlson and Nick Funes anti
anti Biblical or anti Western. I actually think it's complete
opposite of that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
No, But I think there is a great divide between
the Republican Party with what they call the right and
the will right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, and I think that's what's going on. Yeah, yeah,
I mean absolutely. And but what I do say is,
like I believe Tucker believes in God. I definitely know
that Nick Funds believes in God. But I also don't
understand obviously some of the ship that Nick fin Tess says.
I mean, he does have a very interesting merchandise line
that you guys are maybe We're not going to say

(01:02:32):
it you were telling me about Yeah, we're going to
say it. He has a very, very interested in merchandise
line and it doesn't have anything to do with Israel
or Jewish people, but it is very interesting. And the
crazy thing is according to some stats that he like
he's selling out every single time he makes a merchandise drop,

(01:02:53):
which is nuts. Anyways, So Nick Fuinnt has kind of
responded to this article, right, and this is essentially what
he had to say. And so think about what Josh
Hammer was saying about how much Charlie Kirk despised Nick Quintes, which,
like we said, is pretty much true, right, we know that,

(01:03:15):
But also you got to keep in mind that Josh
Hammer was also saying prior to Candae Owens and kind
of coming out and really starting to talk about their relationship,
you know, Josh Hammer and Turning Point USA higher ups,
we're talking about how Charlie Kirk was trying to distance
himself from Candae Owen. It's not true though, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Turning Point wanted them wanted him to distance himself from
Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But what I'm saying is Turning Point yes, but they
were also going out after Charlie Kirk's assassination, saying that
Charlie Kirk wanted nothing to do with any of them.
And we know that's false, and we know it's false
because we saw the text mesters. Right. So here is
the clip of Nick Quintes and what he talks and
he does. I don't think he necessarily mentions the article.
But this was just a segment in his show last night,

(01:04:01):
which we will play now. I think everybody has had enough.
And it's like Charlie Kirk said, it's true, Charlie Kirk
hated me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
It's true. Charlie Kirk despised me. He did not like me,
and I didn't like him. I didn't like him for
one second that he was alive. That's absolutely true. But
you know what else is true. Two days before Charlie
Kirk died, he started to agree with me, not you.
Two days before he died, Charlie Kirk said, they are

(01:04:33):
leaving me with no choice. He said, I'm going to
bring talker Carlson to Amfest and I'm gonna bring cana
Owans too, he said, because they are leaving me no choice.
And I would bet you a lot of money that
if Charlie Kirk lived a little bit longer, he would
have brought me to Turning Point as well, because that's
the direction it was going in. That's the direction it

(01:04:55):
had been trending in for years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
And by the way, I get to stop when he
said this, because it's kind of funny, right, it's funny
to imagine that concept, because and the reason why I
wanted to mention before we play this clip, when Josh
Hammer and all the Turning Point USA higher ups are like, no, no, no, no,
Charlie Kirk. Yeah, Charlie Kirk hated Canvas and Tucker and
he wanted nothing to do with them. And then and

(01:05:19):
then the text messages were released. Now, obviously the text
messages didn't say, hey, by the way, can you imagine
what the group would have said if he's like, by
the way, members should bring Nick Flint?

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Oh, And I loved how you say if he would
have just stayed alive a little bit longer, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Have been there too.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
It's crazy that he's saying this, right, I mean, is
that true? Probably not? But you also never know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Well, you never know what their relationship could have been
after the fact, if he were alive, maybe their relationship changed,
maybe they stop hating each other, and maybe they start
agreeing in certain areas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I mean, And it's funny because sometimes you can
have the biggest enemies that you can then come together
on something that brings you together once and for all.
And I'm not saying that that would have happened, but
obviously I think that we saw Charlie Kirk leading up
to the months and even probably about a year or
so up to his death, that he was really changing

(01:06:16):
his views. And and you know this is not to
say and keep this also in mind, he's specifically talking
about the Israel government, Charlie Kirk, and just their influence
of politics in America. So when Charlie Kirk was like
saying this stuff in that text message chain, he wasn't
saying that I hate Jews or whatever, because Charlie Kirk

(01:06:39):
would never say that, like, there's no reason and I
want to say this, there's no reason to hate Jews
in general. You know the Bible, and the more I
had researched this last night, it is kind of funny
because I debated Brie last night for like four hours.
It seemed like, and I debated Bree because I think
it was iron shopping, sharpening iron. That's what Bree said.
It's like, you know, we can debate this, and I

(01:06:59):
think that we can get something out of it both sides.
One of the things that the Bible specifically continually says
is that there is a difference in Israel, the Kingdom
in Israel the righteous right and yeah, and this is
very important. The Bible says it more than once in
the Bible. So that does not mean that the nation
of Israel over there right and b me Net in

(01:07:21):
Yahoo and whoever's the leading party and officials of the government.
That doesn't mean that God was talking about b me
Net and Yahoo and who's leading Israel. God was talking
about the righteous Jews that followed God and not the
kingdom that that didn't that didn't persecute and in genocide

(01:07:41):
or kill or or steal or thieve or or continually
all the way to the end go against the Messiah.
Actually is what the Bible says. And and and so
the one thing I've always said is like I've never
been against Jewish people. I don't I don't care either way,
like I I care for Jewish people. As much as

(01:08:01):
I care for anybody else, I don't. I don't look
at them and say, well, they're Jews, I hate them.
That they'll be dumb, that'll be dumb to do that.
My my only thing has always been and I think,
I guess kind of debating and going through stuff last
night is like, my problem is not obviously at all
with the Jewish people, the righteous Jews or whoever it's

(01:08:23):
against the Kingdom, that that's what it's probably against it
is the government.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Well yeah, but you're saying, you're saying that the kingdom
is the government, kingdom of the government. You will talk
crap about our own government, absolutely, And why can't you
talk crap about our government and you can't talk crap
about Israel?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah, exactly, And and I get that, And that's the problem.
And I think I think that's why a lot of
people it's just fueling the fire. When when you say
that you're not allowed to do this, you're not allowed
to say this, that's fueling the fire. And and all
I'm saying is is that, look, the Bible specifically talks
about the the Jews and the righteous Jews and all this,
the chosen, the chosen, people and one day they're going

(01:09:05):
to see it and all this stuff. You got to
pray for them and all of this. But it also
specifically talks about the Kingdom right, and that there's two differences.
There are two Israels in the Bible. One is the
Kingdom Israel, one is the Righteous. And I just want
everybody to understand that when I ever talk about Israel
or any of this stuff, it literally has to do
with just my belief on the government and the corruption

(01:09:26):
there and the influence of our politics. I don't feel
like any government, no matter who it is, should influence
the United States of America's politics, period, and I do
feel like they are over influencing the United States government.
I feel like that, for example, if you are not
funded or accepted by a PAK, which is the pack
for Israel, then you are not going to be in office, period.

(01:09:50):
And that's on both sides. That's why oftentimes, guys, I
don't know if you realize this, you don't see Republicans
or Democrats talking about Israel because it is both of
them that are funded APAK.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I tend to disagree with that because I think Democrats
have talked crap more. No, they just haven't talked up
as much for them as Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
But I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I think that, you know, America, it's its own nation,
it's its own government, and foreign politics periods to stay
out of American politics.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Yeah, absolutely, and that's all we're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
But I think that, you know, we have to separate,
like you're saying, a religion from a government.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I don't have a problem with the
Jewish religion. I mean, obviously, I'm a Christian. I believe
in Jesus Christ, and I hope that one day they
accept Jesus Christ. And there are actually some Jews that
are Jesus believers. Those are Masonic Jews. Now, let me
ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Do you think if BB were not Prime Minister for
the last twelve years and somebody else was in charge
or in office, because it seems like he is more
powerful than the president, do you think that would be different?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Probably, I mean it would be different. I don't know
how different they would be, but I just feel like I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Think they would still be influencing American politics.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think they have influenced American politics
for a very long time. I don't know, I don't
know the roots and why and how of all that,
but but you know, it's just very interesting, right, And
I think there's a reason why people critique and talk
about Israel, and I think especially after October seventh. Although yes,
it was horrific what happened in Israel on October seventh,

(01:11:32):
I think nobody can deny that, and especially like as
we've done podcasts in the past, they knew about it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I wish it never happened, though, just like, okay exact say,
just like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
For example, you know, the Jerusalem Post talked about israel
government knowing about the attacks coming for a year prior
to them happening, just like we speculate and talk about
nine to eleven to where we feel like that our
government was can placent on purpose at the very least,
the same thing to nine to eleven. It's the same
thing that likely happened in Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
But you realize how taboo that has been, Like we
have never to this day still done a nine to
eleven series because it is so taboo to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
It's not anymore, it's not so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Much now in like the last couple of years, but
it has been very taboo. Yeah, it's just there's so
much you even contemplate that our government has something to
do with it, you just don't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, well, there's just so much to talk about, right,
And that's why I've been waiting. We've been trying to
get the right people to talk about it, like the
architects and engineers from nine to eleven. Truth. We want
to bring those guys on. If anybody has a connection
to any of those guys that can bring them on
our podcast so we can go through all of that,
please let us know. Email us Investigator with Podcasts at
protonail dot com because I mean there I do have

(01:12:49):
like an entire file. I guess you can say of
all that stuff, but I would still like to bring
someone that's been doing this there and you know for
ever since nine to eleven. That's what they focus on
their whole life. Yeah, that's their entire thing. I'd rather
do that because I mean, I think that is obviously
the most pivotal moment in our nation's history, especially in
my lifetime. I mean obviously there's you know, there's a founding,

(01:13:12):
you know, the seventeen seventy six, and there's there's the
Civil War. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that
has been pivotal moments, but but I think nine to
eleven was a huge moment and I think has caused
a lot of things going forward. I mean, even you
think about the Patriot Act and the erosion of freedoms
after that and the things that they utilized based after
nine eleven. But anyways, let's listen to a little more

(01:13:32):
of what Nick Fuintess says in this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
He was emboldened Charlie Kirk let Tucker come to Sas
over the summer. He got nothing but pushback and attacked
by Josh Hammer himself. Hammer leaves that part out. He
was brutal to Charlie Kirk, as was Bill Ackman, as
were all the others, so much so that had turned

(01:13:57):
Charlie against them. And in his final days Charlie he said,
you know what, f them, I'm bringing Tucker back, and
I'm gonna bring Cana Soans too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
How long before the Gropers would have been there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
And the thing about Josh Hammer, at the end of
the day, he is not an American. No, Josh, You're
not American. There's nothing American about you. You can look American,
you don't sound American. Your wife's not American, you're not American,
and you're not American. Maybe most importantly, because you will

(01:14:34):
never put America first. As long as you are loyal
to Israel in any way, as long as you are
advocating for America to give its money to Israel, to
send its people to die for Israel, you are not
loyal to America. You can never say America first. You

(01:14:57):
will never be America first, and you will never be
an American. So if you believe that Israel is the
foundation of Western civilization, if you believe the Hebrew Bible
matters so much, if you have such a problem with
Americans like me and Tucker Carlson, then why don't you
go to Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Anyways, let's go a little overboard with that, I will say,
because he is bringing religion into it, and well, no,
he's I don't know, but I don't think. You know,
we've had these discussions before, and I don't really want
to get into it because I don't want to get
an argument. But you know, talking about how all the

(01:15:38):
Jewish people are like the top ten percent of America
and they rule America and all that stuff, I think
that's kind of where he's going with that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yeah, well, I mean it's it's you know. It also
kind of goes back for Nick Fuintes where Ben Shapiro
himself said that it's Israel first for him, Israel first.
That is the thing you know, is a is a
Jewish state. He is Israel first and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Amer And I guess it's because maybe you know, I,
like I've told you guys on many podcasts, I am spiritual,
but I'm not religious. I don't believe in man made
religion whatever. And maybe this man made religion makes him
believe in Israel first, because that is where I think

(01:16:24):
all takes place.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Well, yeah, I mean I don't, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
But no, I'm just trying to understand why Ben would
be Israel first. Is it because that is like the
holy place of the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
No, it's it's because he believes that his alliance is
to Israel before America.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
That's that's why he is his alliance in accordance to
the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Or he is a Jew in America. It's through to Torah.
It's not the Bible. He didn't care anything about the
New Testament, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
But I'm just saying, is that where he's getting his
foundation is from the in his religious beliefs and knowing
where Biblical times took place, that it's a sacred place,
and that's why he's pro Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Maybe I have no idea, I mean, but you know,
I guess he's he is a Jew, and so he
believes that his alliance is first to Israel and second
to I guess America, right, so, And I think a
lot of American first people are just like, look, you
live in America.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Though, yeah, I know, and I get that, But it
goes the same sense too with Muslims. Likely sacred place
on Earth is in Israel, and we all know that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
But it's not just Israel though. You know a lot
of parts of the Bible took place throughout the Middle East.
Oh it did.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
But I'm just saying the main foundation of it is
in Israel. And I think that's why Israel is a
fighting ground. It is a religious state, it's a religious place.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
And you know what the most important part about Israel
as a land, holy land is with the entire of
the Bible is Jesus. That is where he was born,
that is where he walked, that is where he performed miracles,
that is where he died, that is where he was resurrected.
That is literally the reason why like that land, if anything,
is the most foundational of historical biblical foundation is Jesus Christ.

(01:18:19):
Now Jews don't believe that. Jews believe because they were
walked out of Egypt and through the Exodus and into
their land by God, you know, but they don't believe
in Jesus as a savior. Some do, Some have accepted
Jesus as a savior. Those are mession and Jews. But
in my opinion, looking at it from a Christian perspective,
the reason why Israel is foundational as far as God

(01:18:41):
or biblical is because of Jesus. Period. But if you
go to Israel and you're like, hey, can you guys
show me like where Jesus was and like where he
was resurrected as the savior and all off, Because that's
why I would want to go to l.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
And that's why Babe even invited Charlie Kirk to go
there to see where Jesus was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, which is weird. I mean, it's just none of it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
I think it's a way of respecting others' religions.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Well, but that is not necessarily what happens in Israel.
I mean, let's just be honest. It's not what happens
in Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Well, it's not what happens in other religions either.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
I mean, there are Christians that are sped on in Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Okay, well let's talk about Nigeria.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Well, yeah, I mean they get killed in Nigeria, Yeah,
by who by Muslims. But also, you know, you also
have to understand that, like it's you know, yes, well
extremists Muslims kill people. But look, we got way off
topic here. We're definitely talking about Charlie Kirk. But all
I'm saying is is that, you know, you could say
the same thing we talked about, like Muslims killing Christians.

(01:19:44):
But what about Israel.

Speaker 9 (01:19:47):
Is though?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Is I think that maybe an alliance with Israel is
because it's a holy land.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
And I'm not saying that they should be in our
politics at all, but I'm to saying that's why people Christians, Jews,
and Muslims.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Feel like Israel is a sacred place. Yeah, I don't know. Well,
like I said, the reason why I feel like Israel's
a sacred place is because that's where Jesus was born
and died and resurrected, you know. So, but Jewish people
do not believe that because they do not believe he
was any of those things.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
They do believe he was killed, right, They do believe
he was a person. They just don't believe he was
a savior. They denied that, right. So I guess my
viewpoint on why that Israel's a holy land is different
than Jewish people's belief of why it's a holy land, right,
That's all I'm saying. All right, So this next clip
we're going to play is Alex Jones talking about how

(01:20:42):
number one he was reached out to people high up
in the White House about the Charlie Kirk assassination and
is specific. I guess his sources into the Trump administration
has been talking to him a decent amount, right, And
I would assume it's probably Tulci Gabbard's people somewhere arould
you know, because I know Tulca Gabbert's been on the

(01:21:03):
show before. I'm sure he talks to her quite a bit.
And look, regardless of whatever people want to think about
Alex Jones, whether he sensationalizes stuff, or whatever. You know,
he has been in communication with presidents and people within
you know, the intelligence communities and whoever for a very
long time. His dad was a part of the intelligence community,
very much like Tucker Carlson and some of these others.

(01:21:26):
So when he says stuff like about what he's about
to talk about in this clip, understand that he's not
just bullshitting you. He's literally saying it with good reasoning
and the fact that it actually happened.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Trump has mentioned Alex Jones numerous times, not just Trump,
but as I've said, many of the people that are
in Trump's cabinet right now have been on either Alex
Jones or they've communicated very heavily. One of the things
he starts talking about here and I had to fast
forward it a little bit, but there is this war
on influence, and it's not the influencers, like you know,

(01:22:06):
what we've talked about already, that is staying in line
with the narratives or staying in line with whatever their
agenda is. The war is on influencers that step out
of line. And Alec Jones also says that I don't know,
I don't know if we're at the part where he
says this, but it's like it's not even the biggest
influencers that are or in danger. It's also the medium influencers,

(01:22:27):
the people that you know, have a million downloads on
a podcast or whatever the case is. The people that
do have influence over people, they are also in danger
because there is this narrative shift right now. There is
this mass movement to where things are not happening the
way they want them to happen. Things are not going
their way, and like Charlie Kirk, you know, Charlie Kirk's

(01:22:50):
assassination in my one hundred percent opinion is not because
of Antifa wanted to take out Charlie Kirk, like there
was not in my opinion, like, look at a TIFA
in Portland. Sounds ridiculous, Yeah, Like, look look at a
TIFA in Portland. You know, they they want to they
want to hype all this Portland ship up with how

(01:23:12):
organized Antifa is and how all. But if you actually
watch the live streams of Portland, they're morons and they
are literally like either not necessarily all unemployed by the way,
some of these people work at Starbucks, or some of
them are engineers or software engineers or whatever. But these people, yes,
they are Antifa, but they're not like this some mass

(01:23:32):
organized group now anyways. I mean they may have been
in the past, but I'm just telling you, I don't
I don't buy that Tyler Robinson was indoctrinated and turned
by Antifa, this mass movement to where there's this big
conglomerate of uh maybe what I say intelligence, but like
coordination and planning and all of this shit. And I

(01:23:55):
even go back to Discord where they said Tyler Robinson
never planned any On Discord, We've looked at everything he's done,
he didn't do any of that. And then the FBI
and all them came out, so oh no, no, no,
he definitely did. He definitely did all this. We know
it for sure, even though we'll never see that. But
Discord literally came out and said, no, he didn't do this.
And Discord is gonna know They're not going to also

(01:24:17):
come out in a public statement.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
And lie, and this not on Discord saying the things
he did, and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Especially knowing that like this is going to be one
of the biggest investigations in US history, right, Discord is
not going to come out and just lie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
I want to back you up just for a second
before we go on, because I want to ask you
an important question, and the important question. Is this the
Antifa we're seeing now, like in Portland in other areas.
Is it the same Antifa that we saw during Black
Lives Better the Summer of Love? Is it the same Antifa?

(01:24:50):
Because let me tell you what I'm seeing that's very
different from then to now. Then they had blocks of
bricks dropped off, they had weapons dropped off, they had
things ready to go. They were burning down buildings, they
were doing really bad things. They're going into businesses and
looting and taking everything and ruining people's businesses. I'm not

(01:25:13):
seeing that Antifa now. When I see the Antifa now,
they are mostly peaceful.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah, yeah, they are. I mean, I think Number one
is because that whoever the organizers or of Antifa, especially
since Trump was elected, have to be very careful now
because you can't just be sending money to these organizations, factions,
bank accounts, whoever, because the Trump administration is going to
be able to find that pretty easily, right, and then
it's going to be tied back. So it's going to

(01:25:42):
be a lot harder for the Trump administration to go
back in time right to look at Blam and all
that stuff, even though it's possible still and it's very possible,
but it's going to be harder for them to go
back in time and look at where the funding was
coming from than it is if they're literally still funding
Antifa riots right now, because that's going to be like
a real time that funding has changed. Yes, I think

(01:26:04):
I don't think they're funding anymore. I think they cut
all that off. They can't just start funding Antifa while
the Trump administration is in office and they have all
the power and all the resources to find out who
these you know, where the money is coming from. There
at the very least, the Trump administration will probably still
find who funded Antifa and b Alam and all that
stuff then, but it's just going to be harder, and

(01:26:27):
you're not going to be a moron and still be
doing the same shit you did during the Summer of
Love when the Trump administration is in office.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
But how are they a moron? Nobody got in trouble.
If they got if they got arrested, they were in jail,
and then they were out the next day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
My point to this is is that they don't really
they're not going to be funding the same way they
would have back then, because the Trump administration is smarter
now than they were before and they're looking out for that,
you know, where those money trails are coming from and
so on and so forth. So I don't think it's
going to be the same. But either way, what I
was saying is Alex Jones was talking about that they're

(01:27:04):
going to start going after influencers that are trying to
turn the conversation around from the narrative. And the interesting
thing is Alex Jones doesn't necessarily blame Trump or the administration.
Alex can't really do that because he has a lot
of people in the Trump administration that confide in him,
kind of keep him close to their vest all this stuff.

(01:27:26):
So he's never going to say likely the things that
you think he's going to say, but he says it
still in some other ways. And let's start here with
what he's talking about, specifically about the influencers, and then
he gets into the Charlie Kirk and who told him,
who reached out to him about what actually happened when
Cash Mattel shut down the investigation into Charlie Kirk. Listen,

(01:27:47):
and I saw a.

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
The pre programming, and they were just pissed because I
knew it, and I didn't even saynything about journalists and
go kill journalists. Of course they didn't show you a
clip because I didn't say it. I said, you better
be ready. If you're going to stay in your house,
you better be ready to defend yourself. You better have
your battle rifle ready. And if you can afford it,
or do it. And you're a prominent person, and don't

(01:28:09):
think you're not important. Even if you're just somebody with
the medium sized show, you're probably on their list. They
are coming to your house. So I was raising the
alarm and saying they're getting ready to trigger this, so
that they wouldn't be able to trigger it. Because even
back then, all the intelligence sages, everybody listened, and they're
all compartmentalized. The average threat fusion Center, the average Sheriff's department,

(01:28:30):
the average Pentagon, you know, intelligence unit, they're not involved
in any of this. It's globalist corporate contractor combines that'll
do the detonation, the trigger of it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
And so you know, I mean, if I woke up
and I heard Trump's been killed, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
In the car out of my house immediately, and I'm
not even there most of the time now because I
understand how red level the threat is right now, and
so I wake up to God forbid, Tucker Carls is dead.
I told Joe Rogan this, everybody, I said, believe me
about a ye're on the list, and he he agrees

(01:29:08):
with me. The minute you see a newke go off,
They've living on the Russians, whatever the thing is. A
black college is blown by a truck bomb, three hundred
I legal, hey's get shot adminstration. That'll be the pretext
for the civil unrest to overwhelm local authorities. And then
sometime around that time they're going to roll out and
you'll just hear and all the chatter, Oh, all this

(01:29:30):
stuff happened, all these people got killed, all these things happen,
and they are just going to spring into action. They're
going to attack police stations, the ones they don't fully controlled,
and the juristictions that don't control. They've got a list
of police They're going to kill folks.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
You need to listen to me.

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
This is one hundred percent going down if we don't
get it poured out. And I've advised on air and
off air two people in the White House and the Pentagon,
and they all know this. I just say, you need
to have verge. See, and I've studied this a lot,
and this is what I think you should do. And

(01:30:03):
I said, when Trump first got in, he needs to
move all his cheap people to military bases immediately, immediately,
and then put them on high alert, which they've done
covertly so that they're unable to decapitate us when they
make this jump. So but just exposing him is why

(01:30:25):
they're so pissed off, because the fact that tens of
millions are watching and listening to this degrades their ability
to carry this out very badly. But how much we
degrade this plan is how much you share it promoted.
And I'm gonna explain something really powerful when we come back.
I'll start talking about it right now. And I'm trying
get the archives to find it because I get stuff

(01:30:45):
like this that's so interesting and so powerful. And I
asked these people, why are you telling me? And they go, well,
we've decided we think you should put this out. So
I about a month ago or so, I talked about
it a couple times, and of course it didn't viral
because something's huge and exclusive and real from somebody with
total credibility, with this huge track record of being incredibly accurate.

(01:31:05):
I say, eh, I'm told by someone in the cabinet
meeting a private one the Cash Hotel has this big
fight with Tulsa Gabbard and Jadie Vance. Is there person
in the room that thought I should have this information

(01:31:26):
and that Pateel killed an investigation to any accomplice as
a killing kirk foreign or domestic. That's when I said, well, okay,
it is officially a cover up, and I elaborated on
it some, but it's so. And then now it breaks
yesterday all over the news about this exact meeting and
that happening word for word what I told you. I

(01:31:47):
mean when I'm telling you this, like people can understand,
Like people always ask who tells you what to say?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
I'm in charge as.

Speaker 6 (01:31:54):
Much as anybody, except like Trump or somebody I call
the shots. I have, like top current people in the
intelligence agenies call me and say what should we do?
Not bragging. You can understand the power of this broadcast. Okay,
I'm I'm in command. You understand that we'll be right back,
all right. I didn't say what I just said last
segment to sound big or be on a power trip
or anything. Actually sit back and think about who exposed

(01:32:18):
a new world order more than I have. Who has
done the most wide spectrum analysis of every facet of
all these different countries interlocking systems.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
I've done it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:28):
And because I've been totally immersed for thirty five years
in this fight thirty one on air, I've been obsessed
with this since I was about seven years old. I've
been absolutely just natural to it. And that's God's handsmen
on me. And the bad guys know that they know
I accurately see through their plans. To me, it's so simple.
And I've been reached out to you many times by
the Pentagon, many times by intelligence agencies, many times by

(01:32:50):
the DOJ asking my advice for decades. Now you know
the good guys in there and what they think I
think is going to happen next. And I'm just like,
you don't know about all these or what they said
here there, it's all They're like, no, give us a
report now, it's all crystal clear. So I said, who
tells Alice Jones what to say?

Speaker 8 (01:33:11):
I do?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Cash Fatel.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Tried to shut down the Director of National Intelligence and
the National Fusion Center Director, which you're supposed to share intelligence.
That was the point of the laws passed nine to
eleven wanting no investigation of accomplices domestically or accomplices internationally.
So that's officially a cover up. Now, I said that
I got that from someone in the private cabinet meeting.

(01:33:36):
You understand, there's only members of the cabinet in those
and their age. And I was called and they said,
this is the information. They want you to put this out,
that cash Betel is doing a cover up. And I said,
who wants me to say that? And they told me who,

(01:33:57):
And so I went on air and I said, I've
been told to tell you that us. Now, word for
word what I told you is now in the news,
the exact meaning all of it. I continue to point
this out so some people out there that you know,
live in La La Land can get this. This isn't
some four Chan Q drop with a bunch of gobbledegook
esoteric gnostic crap vagaries that you're supposed to decode in

(01:34:21):
your magic, you know, decoder ring.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
This is what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
And I'm given these things all the time because the
good guys want to boost my credibility.

Speaker 12 (01:34:35):
I've got to get ten different assumptions to make this
gunshot work. And maybe may right, Alex, in the universe
of worlds, maybe the jackpot power ball got hit and
all of those things happened, and that's what led to
this thirty odd six around that passing through his neck.
If you want to believe that, and I know some
people do, that's fine, but I'm sorry it's not. I

(01:34:57):
don't know everybody wants to believe this now, but the FPI.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
But I was told two days we're Metellian.

Speaker 6 (01:35:03):
I said, we're looking at everything, all the angles helpers
who hand signs. I was told from inside the Whitehouse.
Now they're going with loan gunmen. They're not even looking
at a trany tranny for Shane. He'll be dead tomorrow show.
I was told by very agredible people there's a cover up,
and I don't send it with.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Pleasure, you know, all right? So that was Alex Jones
and where he's talking about that he had inside sources
into that meeting that reached out to him and said
this is what happened. And why would they reach out
to Alex Jones and say this is what happened, that's
the question. And it's because they know that the mainstream
media and their official statements they have to be a

(01:35:39):
certain way. They have to come out in a combined
statement like we talked about earlier with Cash Mittel and
Toolsy Gabbard saying the exact same thing, even though as
we said earlier, you can envision both of their statements
and how they're saying them. Tolsey Gabern on one side, Yeah,
there's definitely going to be no stone unturned. Cash Battel
on the other side, is like, no, there's no stone
unturned here. Don't worry about it. We got this right.

(01:36:01):
That's the difference. And so the reason why they have
to reach out to people like Alex Jones is that
they want the public to know. They want to know
that there is a cover up going on and that
maybe some of these conspiracy theories out there, some of
these people, these pundits that the right is calling the
woke right now, maybe some of those people are not
far off from their assertations of what they believe happened, right,

(01:36:26):
And I think that's the entire reasoning of the messaging
to people like Alex Jones and as Alex Jones also,
it said that because of how fast information is getting
out and how big some of these influencers are getting,
is becoming a problem for the deep state. It's becoming
a problem for the powerful, the elitism, because they don't

(01:36:48):
know how to combat this. It's hard. Like just for example,
we posted on our Instagram yesterday. You know, Trump announced
three weeks ago that I have said that the CIA
is allowed to operate within Venezuela. Venezuela two days ago
came out and said that they have captured some CIA
operatives in Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago. I call BS

(01:37:12):
on it, and maybe and maybe it's true, but they
did say in their official statement that they captured these
guys that I guess you said, Cherry. They were there
on missionary trips supposedly, yeah, which is like would be
the CIO operative cover.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
They had weapons, the crypt radios decryptid are ENCRYPTI.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Encrypted radio show. And they also had some kind of
training manuals, yeah, like CI manuals.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Yeah, why would you have CIA training manuals.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
I have no idea with you. I mean that seems
like the last thing, Yes, it seems like that'd be
the last thing you would do right on an operation
is have official CIA manual with you. But either way,
that's what the Venezuelan government is claiming, is that they
have caught some CI operatives that were planning on blowing
up a US ship and blaming it on Venezuela. But

(01:37:58):
I'm saying all that to say this is that there
is a fast release of information nowadays that is happening
on an everyday basis, and so when people like Alex
Jones get information and we get information too from people
often that they're like, Hey, this is what I know,
this is what I this is what I've heard, this
is I'm involved in this, and this is why I
know this. It's gonna be tough, and this is something

(01:38:22):
I worry about more than anything. Is like mass censorship.
You know, we worried about it obviously with Biden Harris
because they wanted to win the election. That was a
big thing, and the deep state felt like, hey, look
we got to see now president, we got Kamala Harris.
She knows absolutely nothing about what's going on. We can
control them to the ump degree, and they did. That's
why we're heavily heavily in debt. That's why I believe

(01:38:45):
the Russian Ukraine War was allowed to happen. I think
there was a lot of stuff that that took place
under that administration that made people very, very rich, richer
than they already were. And I think there's a reason
why that this administration might be cooperating or or some
of the people in the administration is controlled, because there
is still the same narrative. But I just I've said

(01:39:07):
this a million times. It's very hard to go into
office in the United States or America not controlled. Right,
even if you think that you're not controlled in the
very beginning, you quickly realize how controlled you are.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Yeah, And I keep putting my brain into like Cash
Betel's brain, for example, And when was he first controlled?

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
When was it? Was it when he was doing the podcast?

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Was it when he was being inducted as the FBI
and director or was it after?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Yeah? For sure, we don't know. And like I said,
it could have been before, It could have been while
he was on the podcast. It could have been all
the things he was saying kind of warming people up
to Cash Betel being the FBI director and that trust
that they're going to instill in cash Hotel to tell
the truth. Although it's strange because it just seems like
that everything that they've done so far has kind of

(01:39:57):
been opposite of making people trust you and believe you.
So it is very interesting. And the number one question
I keep trying to figure out is like, who are
the they? You know, when when people keep saying they,
who is they? Like if there are people that show
up at your house or kill political influencers or just

(01:40:20):
influencers in general, like us or you know, I mean,
and we're on the smaller scale. I guess you can
say from people like you know, Joe Rogan or whoever.
But but you know, if someone killed Joe Rogan or
Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuintes or or
whoever else you listen to podcast wise or influencer wise

(01:40:42):
that has a decent size, show like, who would it
be that kills them? And why? And I think that's
the question that we're asking about Charlie Kirk. Was it
Tyler Robinson because of some ideological craziness that he had
picked up along the way from the left that made
him be able to go out get the gun from

(01:41:06):
his what do you call him old man, which is
very strange. Grandpa, Yeah, his grandpa's gun, but it was
his old man that gave it to him.

Speaker 6 (01:41:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
This guy's literally talking like he lives back in the
nineteen twenties, Like was it Tyler Robinson that acted alone? Completely?
And is that just the official story that took the
perfect shot of Charlie Kirk that they said was a
thirty oh sixth round that also had people in the
crowd that was, you know, making sure the law enforcement
focused on them so that the shooter could get away,

(01:41:36):
although the pictures that were shown about who the shooter
was coming up the stairway doesn't actually look like Charlie
or like Tyler Robinson. There's also a lot of weird
stuff like right after the Charlie Kirk assassination, the people
around Charlie Kirk, what their actions were right directly after this,
like it is all this normal? We don't know, But
the question is like who is they? Who is they?

(01:41:59):
And you know, you're a Bible believer, if you're a Christian,
if you believe in the Bible, and some that people
always tell me, it's like, well, it doesn't matter what
the situation is It doesn't matter, you know, about whether
Israel was this or that, or it doesn't matter like
who killed Charlie Kirk. It doesn't matter if Turning Point
USA was involved or they weren't, which I don't necessarily
think that, but it's just I think it does matter,

(01:42:20):
even though yes, it is written in the Bible, it
is written for sure, but I still don't think that.
I think truth is what compels people, right, And all
we want to do on this podcast is try to
find the truth. And it's very hard right now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
It is so hard and I don't even know who
to believe anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
No, but I talked to so many people and they're like, well,
why do you guys even do this, Like you know,
the water is so muddied now, you can't even figure
out who to believe and what to believe and like
what the truth is. But like, if we quit doing this,
or if people like us quit doing podcasts like this
or shows like this, then they win. They went a

(01:43:00):
lot faster, they went a lot easier. And although it
may be written, that doesn't mean that God or Jesus
especially ever told us to give up. It doesn't mean
that he ever told us to quit discipline or quit
telling people about him.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Right, But and it also goes to a point where
you have to look at your own beliefs within your
own self and come to a point where where does
truth and beliefs weigh in your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Well, I mean, I think it goes back to we
can't decipher what's actually going on in this world today.
There's just no way to do that. There's no way
to figure out like what is true or what is faults.
But I do believe, Like I said, I do believe
in the Bible. I do believe in Jesus, and I
believe that a lot of the stuff or most everything
that we're seeing today is prophetic. I think the Bible

(01:43:50):
describes it in detail if you really get into the
Bible and you start researching. And I do want to
say something else, like if you guys are not like
big readers, but you have questions of about things, and
there are some Christians out there that like try to
say this is bad to do, but use Ai like
a I mean, AI is not going to lie to
you about the verse. Literally ask Ai, Hey, I have

(01:44:11):
a question about this. Can you show me the verses
in the Holy Bible that pertain to this, right, they'll
show you the verses and if you and if you
want to go a step further, go and actually open
up the Bible and look and see if it says this,
look at the context of it leading up to that.
There's all those things that you can do. You can
utilize AI for good for yourself, for your soul, to

(01:44:31):
figure out things, to get questions to answers that maybe
was a lot harder. You actually had to read the
entire Bible in some cases, but there are easier ways
to do that now. And so I will say that,
and I think that you know, I use AI for
a lot of stuff. We use it for research in
the podcasts, we use it for let me sit sure

(01:44:51):
you've used it for like your art stuff to try
to like figure out how to do this and that.
But I also feel like it's good to use it
for your spiritual questions. If you have a spiritual question,
ask AI to specifically read out or or show you
the Bible versus that talk about those things. As of
right now. Anyway, it's not misconstrued, it's not making up things.
It's not putting in other words that don't exist. You

(01:45:13):
can cross reference that with actual biblical apps or whatever.
But I think it's the easier way to do it,
and I think that we're going forward, we're going to
have to really start heavily depending on the Bible more
than we ever have, because when all of reality and
truth is lost, which I feel like we're getting closer
and closer and closer to that, because especially now with
influencers that are being paid and influenced, people that you

(01:45:36):
guys may have followed for a very long time, and
maybe you're starting to see them act differently, maybe you're
starting to see them say different things. That's going to
screw your mind up. It's going to make you think, like,
what the hell is going on? And so the only
thing I can say is like, just be very careful
of who you trust, who you listen to. But most importantly,

(01:45:57):
if you are a Bible believe or if you are
someone that wants to further your faith, you use the
tools that the world or whatever has provided us right
now while they exist and while they can still do
that to help you figure out things. And I've used it,
like I said, many times, So I just want to
close that. We just need to figure out who is

(01:46:17):
the they who is they? We don't know, but I
think that in the end we're all going to know
who that they is. And I think if you read
the Bible, it talks specifically about who they are. It
is the globalist, It is the New World orderist, it
is the elitist. It is the people that want to
bring in the Antichrist that wants you to believe that
this is the Christ, not Jesus. This is the Christ.

(01:46:42):
Don't believe Jesus Christ, believe in this guy and follow
this person. And we don't know who that person is
right now, but I can promise you I've said this
so many episodes. When I was twelve years old, my
mom used to listen to this evangelist on TV and
he used to scare the crap on me about the
end times. And this was when I was twelve, and
I looked around the world and I was like, you
know what, the world's not that bad, dude. Like, I mean,

(01:47:02):
he's saying that we're getting close to the end times,
but I think what he was meaning is like maybe
kind of towards where we're at right now. I know
there's still a lot more that has to happen. I
guess even though prophetically there's not a lot more that
has to happen according to the Bible. But I do
feel like we're in this war where everything that is
good is bad and bad is good. You're gonna be confused,

(01:47:26):
They're gonna be nations against nations. They're gonna be feast
or not feast. There's gonna be famines, there's gonna be disease.
We're literally experiencing a lot of stuff all at once
right now, a mass information war COVID nineteen, all the
wars that are going on, and then the talks and
rumors of wars we're talking about when we talk about
World War three, or the potential escalation between the United

(01:47:48):
States and Russia or China. All those things specifically say
that in the Bible. So I don't know, read it yourself.
Use AI to also help you understand and like the
times or the questions that you have. I think it'll
help you because I'm not a preacher. I'm not a pastor.
I am someone that is lost and on a journey,

(01:48:08):
just like you guys are, and sure he is also,
We're not someone that's going to preach to you about
what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just telling you
what is helping me. I guess, and challenge your own beliefs. Right,
if you believe or are biased to something, challenge your
beliefs in that and go ask those questions. Go look
in the Bible and see if you're right or see
if you're wrong. And I think that's very important. And

(01:48:30):
I think the most foundational text that we've ever been
given in the history of humanity is the Bible. That's
what I honestly believe. And so no matter how crazy
and how just I guess somewhat depressing some of the
things we talked about in the show, can be understand
that there is an end of all this, which is

(01:48:52):
eternal life through Jesus Christ. And I truly believe that.
And I truly believe that Jesus Christ died and was resurrected.
I believe he was real. I believe he was a
real man. I believe he was a miracle worker. I
believe that if you believe and follow Jesus that you
are also going to have eternal life. I one hundred
percent believe that. And I just want you guys to
know that. And uh, it's up for you to decide

(01:49:15):
if you believe that. It's not up for me to
tell you whether you should believe that, right. I think
the only way you're really going to get to that
point is by doing your own research, question your own biases. Uh,
and and just you know, go into it, if anything,
go into as a non believer, and go into as
a conspiracy theorist. Go into it as you would question government,

(01:49:37):
but do it as the like you would question the Bible.
I don't think it's wrong to question the Bible or
wrong to question those things, but I think that I
think that helps you get to a point to where
you can kind of start seeing things that maybe you
never saw before. So that's all I want to say. Uh,
we're going to play out our song, the song we
were talking about, Break the Chains by Revolution Code. You

(01:49:57):
can go pick it up on anywhere. You can go
listen to it on spot, YouTube, music, Apple, iTunes, go
listen to it anywhere you can listen to music. Go
support us, go share the music, put it in your
reels by the way, you can put it in your
Instagram reels, your Facebook post, whatever. It's on everything. And
I think also TikTok do that this song is about
what we're literally talking about in this episode and many others.

(01:50:20):
It's about good versus evil, and it's about in the
end that God Jesus is going to break the chains
from the evil that thinks they enslave us on this
earth because there are a lot of elitists, There are
a lot of powerful people that are powerful on this
earth right now because they feel like they are God's
But in the end, God will rain, Jesus will reign,

(01:50:41):
and he will come back and make sure that he
shows those people, hey, look what, You're not so powerful
as you thought you were. So we're going to close
it with our own song, Break the Chains by Revolution Code.
Until next time, guys, we love you.

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
Peace out. Peas out.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Forming the shadows, cold surname.

Speaker 9 (01:51:09):
They're right there, lasting flame the old. But they can't
say while I was born to leave free. The joe

(01:51:37):
was where the sun.

Speaker 13 (01:51:45):
Got in the dog, The fires.

Speaker 9 (01:51:54):
Under kneel s got.

Speaker 13 (01:51:58):
Where ray shad. They fail the size the sound true

(01:52:19):
in the dark. The light racks through, the makers hide
behind the veil, whispers.

Speaker 9 (01:52:44):
Of control in a silver trail.

Speaker 13 (01:52:52):
They bounce through the shadow for the crown of gold,
but sow the soul, stars, stories talls.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
The Coody line.

Speaker 9 (01:53:05):
Begin to fall. Their eye on crown can't stop the hunger.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Kneel Scot.

Speaker 13 (01:53:22):
When the again by the change, they all stand said
they'll never silence the sound in the dark.

Speaker 9 (01:53:47):
Line raise the forum phase.

Speaker 14 (01:53:52):
The veil is torn, A new world rises where truth
is born. They danced with the serpent, they took his hand.
The fire consumed. They're stolen land.

Speaker 9 (01:54:08):
Their darkness falls beneath the same.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
The King of Kings.

Speaker 9 (01:54:20):
Will break their chain under kneon Scots. We heard they're
a face fall back. They'll have a sads the sun.

(01:54:49):
This is the knight.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
We brey gone through.

Speaker 9 (01:54:58):
On the list.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
The architects fall.

Speaker 9 (01:55:17):
O King.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Will ride.

Speaker 9 (01:55:25):
I guess

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