Dallas ICE Sniper Attack: Left-Wing Extremism Surging Against Christians & Law

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hello, and welcome to Investigators Podcast. I'm your host Shad
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we have
to confront a dangerous pattern that the media downplays at
every turn. That is the rise of politically driven violence
from the left. Now we've seen Thomas Crook's attempt to
assassinate President Trump. We've seen Tyler Robinson murder Charlie Kirk
and cold blood allegedly at a public event. We've seen

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Robin Westman open fire to Catholic school in Minneapolis, shattering
stained glass windows and many lives. And just yesterday in Dallas,
a man named Joshua John climbed onto a rooftop an
unleashed gunfire on an ICE facility, scrawling anti Ice on
his ZAM cognition, killing one detainee and critically winning others
before taking his own life. These aren't just random outbursts.
They are ideologically charged attacks carried out by individuals radicalized

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by a culture of hatred, division, and propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Tonight, we're going to break down who.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Those shooters were, what drove them, and why the establishment
would rather bury these stories than admit the truth. America
is facing a wave of left wing violence and ignoring
it puts every one of us at danger. Welcome to
the show. It is September twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.
We are once again trying out another video platform. So
for those audio listeners, we're going to do our very

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best to where you don't have to watch the videos
if you do not want to. This video will be
out probably a couple of days after the audio. We
will have that on our YouTube. If you guys do
not follow our YouTube, I do encourage you to go
follow it now. That is Investigate Earth Podcasts on YouTube.
Just go check us out. We recently did an episode
with Ashton Forbes, which honestly got a ton of backlash.

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I don't know that we've ever had an episode, Cherry
that got more back done. The Ashton Forbes episode where
we talked about Charlie Kirk, and you know, a lot
of people were just kind of talking about Ashton dispelling
or trying to debunk any conspiracy that had anything to
do with Charlie Kirk. We got a little bit of
backlash as well by people saying you didn't push back,
you didn't push.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Back hard enough, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
But as I say before, though, Sherry this was not
our podcast to debate Ashton.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
That was not what we set that episode up for.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Ian Carroll actually agreed to come on that podcast, the
Little Podcast, as Ian Carroll calls it, and he agreed
to debate Ashton Forbes. The problem is about, I don't know.
An hour before we were supposed to debate, Ian Carroll
sent me a message which kind of went viral once
Ashton posted it, and he said, look, you know, I'm
not going to debate Ashton because you know, he's just

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going crazy on social media all of this. And I
told Ashton a day before, and we had had this
kind of plan for three or four days. I said, Ashton,
I guarantee you Ian's not going to come on the
show because he just has too much to lose, you know,
regardless of whether he's right or Ashton's right. You know,
when you have a platform like Ian does, and Ashton
has a big platform as well, especially on social media,

(03:09):
it's just for it's probably not in Ian's best benefit
to come on and debate really anybody.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And that's why you don't really see him in a
lot of debates.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, and Ashton was really fired up, and he is
fired up about this whole thing. And you know, Ashton's
not usually in the lane is what.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
They call it, of politics.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
He stays in the science lane, and now he's getting
in the politics lane. And boy, he was fired up.
So it was hard to even get a word in
wise with Ashton.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, no, it was yeah, I mean, yeah, it was tough.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
But you know, like I said, Ashton was kind of
fired up to debate Ian and so instead of you know,
Ian showing up in debating Ashton didn't happen. So Ashton
was kind of off the leash or off the chain.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I guess you can say.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Now, as we said in the last episode audio, we
do not agree with everything that Ashton said. Obviously in
that show, we have not agreed necessarily with everything Ashton
has ever done, but that's not really what we are about.
We believe that Look, if you have something to say,
come on our show. We've literally done episodes of Black
Lives Matter to where we had a black guy from
Texas that came on our show that had a lot

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of the same views as most Republican conservatives. And then
we had another guy that after that episode, he said, Hey,
when y'all want a real dude on y'all's podcast to
talk about the inner city stuff. The Lois Saint Louis.
He was a rapper. We brought him on, and the
interesting thing was he did obviously have a different perspective.
But it was strange because by the end of the

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episode we kind of all still agreed.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
The thing about I was hesitant on what we called
this episode, and this is going to be about far
left violence, and this was something that I believe a
lot of people disagree with Ashon forbes On, especially when
it came to Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson, because
we don't necessarily have all the evidence that we need
right now, we don't have what the people want. And

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very similarly to Tom Crooks, you know, there have been
people in the past to where we knew every single
thing about their lives within twenty four hours, and it
just depends on how does it fit the narrative. Does
it fit the narrative for the establishment or does it not.
If it doesn't fit the narrative, or if there is
a backhanded, behind the scenes operation going on, then you're
likely not going to know a lot about it, right

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And so when you see stuff like the Tyler Robinson
assassination of Charlie Kirk allegedly right to where this guy
supposedly used a thirty out six bullet, which could typically
go through large game you know, elk, moose, whatever, and
especially deer. And yet you have this what appears to
be in Charlie Kirk. You have this almost exit wound

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on the front of Charlie Kirk, and there was no
exit wound at all from what we understand, on the
backside of Charlie Kirk. And if you guys have not
heard our last episode with Rashid, which was he was
a federal law enforcement employee, he was also a military
I guess, not intelligence but civil affairs. They deal with
a lot of this stuff. And then even before that
he was hematic. There's a lot of things about the

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Charlie kirkissassination one percent that does not add up. And
so I think one of the things that a lot
of people did not agree with Ashon about was it's
not just the left.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
We can't just blame everything on the left.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
But I also understand his point too, to where it's like, look,
if you know, if they have blamed the right for
everything over the past four to eight years to where
they censored and silenced people like the sitting president of
the United States, for example, Donald Trump. He literally got
his Spacebook and YouTube and basically every account he was
on band as a sitting president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And not just Donald Trump. You had Gina Carna, you had.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, obviously Alex Jones, you had Nick Fintaz, you
had everybody. And it wasn't just the higher up, big
dog names. It was people that were just talking about
their opinions, whether it's about COVID nineteen, whether it was
about criticizing Joe Biden or that administration.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
They were getting silenced and censored.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
We go back to the Twitter files Matt Tayebi, where
when Elon Musk actually bought Twitter slash now x. When
he bought Twitter, they said, hey, let's just go through
like some of the conversations from some of the CEOs
and some of the CEOs and some of the higher
ups at Twitter, and let's see what was actually going on. Well,

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what did we find out from the Twitter files? We
found out that the FBI and especially the Department of
Justice and the Biden administration was literally pay in Twitter
to silence conservatives, to silence a dissenting voice on Twitter.
We know that for a fact because it is literally
in black and white. It is in text, it is
in messages between the government, is in emails.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
We have all of that.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So you know the fact that when Jimmy Kimmel was
quote unquote silence or censored for three days, everybody was like, no,
we can't have this, We can't have censorship in America
because guys, they did that to us. Now, I understand
the side to where you think, like, yes, they did
do this to conservatives, right, They've done this to us
for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That was Ashton's point. They've already done it to us,
so why are we not doing it to them? So's
his whole point about censorship.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, And the question, though, lies is like do you
continue to do it?

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Do you continue to do what they did to us,
because that's obviously not the right thing to do. Our
constitution does afford us the first Amendment, it affords us
all of our constitutional rights, and so there was always
the argument back in the day that says, look, you know,
because it is a private platform, because it's Facebook, because
it's Instagram, because of all these things, then they have
a right because they are a private company. So technically,

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if you want to go out there on the courthouse
steps and you want to say whatever you want to say,
then yes, that is protected by the First Amendment. But
when you are under a company or a social media company, no.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Longer do you have an employer, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
But you no longer have the freedom of speech under
that particular environment. But here's where it gets a little
stranger is because when you are a social media company
and you are afforded a certain protections under the federal
government of the United States to where you are not
held liable for whatever people say on your platform. And

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when originally the social media companies actually went to the
government said hey, look, we don't want to be liable
for what people say because we don't want to censor people,
but we also don't want to be sued, so make
sure that we have these Section two thirty or whatever
the protections are that they afforded the social media companies.
But even after they were afforded all of that, which
is immunity essentially for anybody that said anything, they could

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not be sued because of just similar by the way
to the vaccine companies and pharmaceutical They still sensor people,
and you know, they censor people because they knew the
strong arm of the government was going to come down
very heavy on them. The Biden and Harris administration. Now,
I'm not saying that the same thing obviously cannot happen
in this particular case, because it absolutely can.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You have Trump administration in you know.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
We just did acquire TikTok today, which you know, I
guess China is going to still be somewhat involved in that.
And there was actually a reporter to the ask Donald
Trump today. He said what kind of content are you
going to push more so on TikTok? Now, like, are
you going to be pushing more maga content? And He's like, well,
if I could do maga content on I.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Do it every day all day, I would definitely do that.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But he did come back and say I will not
do that because we have to be fair with everyone
and fair to everyone on every side.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Right right, Yeah, And I was I was really like,
you go Trompe for that, because I think that's important.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, but he also says, you know, Oracle was working
behind the scenes to make sure that you know, an
Oracle apparently has been working with TikTok for quite some time,
and it was always interesting to me when they were
trying to cancel TikTok and they were saying, China has
your data. China is getting all this information from you,
and they're gonna spy on us, and they're going to
use this for their benefit. Like, first of all, that's
complete horsecrap. Number two is like you also have to

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understand the Oracle, which is the company that a lot
of people believe was actually created by and for the CIA.
Larry Ellison was the founder of that company. It's interested
in finding out and talking today with Trump, not talking
with Trump today, but as Trump an noown today said, Look,
you know, Oracle has already had a big part of
data storage for TikTok even before we actually just recently

(11:15):
bought it as America or as the USA and kind
of a co venture. I think is like seventy I
think it's around seventy percent owned now by American assets
or entities, and then you're probably going to have that
you know, twenty to twenty five thirty percent ownership from
some either Byte Dance or whoever the Chinese company is.
But Oracle is still going to be behind it, right,

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So you know, I never worried about like, what was
China going to find out about me using TikTok, even
though I don't really use TikTok a lot. But I'm
actually more concerned about Oracle having all that data and information.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Almost had it for a long long time. Why would
you be worried about it?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, I'm not. I mean, well, I just don't. I
don't really like Oracle as a company that much. I
don't know one hundred percent everything that Oracle does and
doesn't do. What we do know is they're connects and
ties to the CIA. We also like Polunteer for example.
Palenteer is very similar. Polunteer has. What they're essentially trying
to do is to put all data from every single

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facet of our lives into one database that then the
government can go and utilize. So you can go in
a and use a search term in whatever the database
that Palateer creates, and you can find out basically anything
that one person is doing in any way, shape or form.
And I'm sure that data is going to be pulled
from your phone, your car, your Amazon Alexa, your literal

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Amazon remote. I mean they are going to house and
store data for every single thing that we do. And
it's going to be much easier for intelligence agencies, for
the Deep State, for whoever, to be able to then
go and find and centralize everything. And you might ask yourself, well,
why is that a worry, Because that is when we

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have complete and utter and total control. One of the
biggest problems for the United has always been their lack
of ability and tools to be able to control the people,
especially right when you have the United States or America
that is one of it is the biggest gun toting
countries in the world. As far as their citizens go.
You have over three hundred million citizens, and there's far

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more guns than citizens. So they know they can't just
go and take away weapons. But they do know that
they can utilize data to control us more and especially
in events like COVID nineteen, mass propaganda shooting instances, the
Charlie Kirk assassination. How information is disseminated and how is
it controlled, so all that's very important. That's why I'm

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saying I wasn't too worried about China having access to
our data. But before we get into this episode any further,
we're about to go into the shooting yesterday of the
ice facility in Dallas. We're going to talk a little
bit about Thomas Crooks, Like we still haven't heard a
lot about Thomas Crooks that tried to assassinate Trump. We
might even I guess touch on Charlie Kirk and that assassination.

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All the stuff that still doesn't make a lot of sense.
We did have, like I said in our last audio episode,
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Were really cool with that. Send us pictures at like
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Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, they're pretty sweet.

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I would say that we get the most reach on
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we get the least reach on X of any social
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reach actually on Instagram. I mean, I think over the

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past thirty days we were like at twenty nine million views,
and then when I posted the.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Video of and I just the guy behind Charlie kign,
you didn't even show like the app actual like thing.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
No, I didn't show that the shooting. I didn't show
the graphic stuff. But when I posted a video of
the sign language or signals behind Charlie Kirk that day,
that's when our account got demonetized, which we weren't making
money on it anyway. I still don't understand how that works.
But I think now we are shadow band again, so
we'll see. But let me go ahead and share the

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screen here now, Like I said, we are on a
new platform. But for those that are audio listeners, you're
not going to miss anything. You're gonna be able to
hear stuff and I'm going to be able to read
this as well. But we're gonna go ahead and share
the screen and we are going to go to the
actual official news article. This is as of today. Let
me see what this looks like. Yeah, see, I don't
like the way that looks. I don't know why it

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does this, but let me just change his layout real quick.
Of course, it's not going to do that. There we go.
Let's just do that for now, all right. So here's
the actual article. So we have the recent shooting and
Dallas ice shooter Joshua John wanted to cause terror according

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to handwritten notes. Now that says the brief. A shooting
at a Dallas ice facility left one person dead and
two injured. The gunman died from a self inflicted wound.
The suspected gumman, twenty nine year old Joshua John, showed
a high degree of pre attack planning, including scouting facilities
and writing threats. Security is being increased at ice facilities nationwide,

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and two surviving victims, one of whom is a Mexican national,
remain in critical condition now. The twenty nine year old
man who opened fire on Dallas ice facility left behind
handwritten notes at his home in Oklahoma that shared a
motive for his attack to terrorize ICE EMPLOYEEI and Department
of Homeland Security officials gave an update on what they've
learned in the investigation at a news conference held on

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Thursday afternoon, which we're going to play that in just
a moment, but here's what we know. FBI Director Cash
Motel on Dallas, FBI Special Agent in Charge Joseph Rotheluke
released new information about the shooting suspect behind one day's
Wednesday morning attack, and he posts on social media. Director
Bttel said the FBI has been working around the clock
to seize devices, exploit data, and process writings found at

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Joshua John's home and in his bedroom. According to Mattel,
John downloaded a document titled Dallas County Office of Homeland
Security and Emergency Management, which contained a list of Department
of Homeland Security facilities. He also conducted multiple searches of
ballistics and the Charlie Kirk shot video between September twenty
third and September twenty fourth. John allegedly left handwritten notes

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behind that read, in part, hopefully this will give ICE
agents real tearor to think about is there a snipe
with ap rounds on the roof, and then also quotes
to include John's own words and his handwritten notes. John
specifically intended to kill ICE agents. He fired at transport
vehicles carrying ICE personnel, federal agents, and detainees. He also

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fired multiple shots into the window of the office building
where numerous ICE employees do their jobs every day. Rothrock
said during a news conference. So I want to go
ahead while we're here, and I want to go ahead
and get into the actual video. Let me stop sharing
this if I can figure out how to do that. Sorry, guys,

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we're getting this.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I think you're doing great chat.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
We're trying.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
You are a.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
TECHNI no, no, no, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's been pretty tough. So let's go ahead and get
into the press conference real quick. I'm going to make
sure that we have this pulled up. This particular press conference.
We warned about the Zack scenario months ago. App to
follow ICE agents, patriots need to start downloading these apps
and spamming them.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
With false reports.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
So there are apps that are actually being used in
this is what they're saying. But let's go ahead and
go to this video on x real quick, and let
me back this up about here.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Charles.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
I am the ICE Executive Associate director for Enforcement Removal Operations.
The attack on ICE's Dallas Field office yesterday was tragic
and while our hearts, our prayer and prayers are with
the family of the detainees who were shot, the evidence
is clear that this was intended as an assault on
ICE personnel who come.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
To work every day to do their job.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Violent rhetoric has led to over one thousand percent increase
in assaults on ICE officers and it has to stop.
In contrast to those who would demonize our men and women. Yesterday,
our brave officers ran back into danger along with atf
our partners to save the detainees while shots were still
being fired. Those ICE officers just showed the world who

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they really are, law enforcement officers who want the best
for our country. That's ICE integrity, courage, excellence. They were
willing to put their lives on the line to pull
detainees out of the transport van to get them to safety.
They are heroes and I hope the media has the

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integrity to shine a light on this story. Enough is
enough with the harmful lies and violent rhetoric. It has
to stop. The shooter used the ICE tracking apps. Anyone
who creates or distributes these apps that is designed to

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spot track and locate ICE officers are well aware of
the dangers that they are exposing to law enforcement. It's
a casting call to invite bad actors to attack law
enforcement officers. It's no different than giving a hit man
the location of their intended target. And this is exactly
what we saw happen in Dallas yesterday. The media has

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been amplifying these apps, even as we warned them it
would only lead to more attacks on law enforcement. We
truly wish we didn't have to say I told you so,
but here we are. ICE continues to prioritize the safety
and security of our personnel, detained aliens, and facilities. We

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will do everything possible to increase security to counter the
increased wave of these lethal attacks. Again, we call on
those who forment violence and vilifi our law enforcement officers
to cease the dangerous rhetoric. We also call on law
abiding Americans everywhere to report any suspicious activity. The individual

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that was out there yesterday's shooting at ARE agents and
our officers was trying to take the lives of law
enforcement people doing their job. Instead he killed two or
killed a detainee and shot to others.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
That is something that's unacceptable.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
The rhetoric that's out there on social media, the rhetoric
that is being said by some community leaders in other states,
needs to stop. There's been an increase in violence against
ICE agents, not only in Texas in Dallas, but across
the country and violent protests. Again, I ask everybody, just stop,

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thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
There you go. So that was the that was the
local director there. And obviously, as you heard, these people
have this app to where they can track ICE agents,
which is a big problem for obvious reasons. And there's
actually a lot of law enforcement agent sies now across
the country that are trying to hide in some way,

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shape or form their scanner feeds because criminals use those.
If you can track down, especially if you are doing crimes,
and you can figure out where law enforcement and what
they're doing and how they're doing it, then you're going
to have an advantage over them. But in this space,
in what is going on in this world, in this country,
especially right now, where you have this far left rhetoric,

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and only do you have the far left rhetoric. Guys,
This app didn't just come about from out of nowhere,
out of thin air.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
This has been worked on obviously.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
There is some degree of tracking that someone has behind
the scenes, probably a deep state operative if you think
about like the Open Society Foundation of George Soros. I know,
Trump just recently announced that he's going to be looking
into these NGOs, the non government organizations. We've talked often
on this podcast about these about what they call the

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deep state and what is the deep state? How do
they operate? Well, I think there is a deep state
within our own country. I think we've seen it under
the Biden Harris administration. I thought, I think we saw
it with Obama, We've saw it with Bush. The deep
state has been alive for a very long time on
both sides. And on top of that, you then also
have this globalist narrative, this globalist push, and the globalist

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push is to basically demoralize our country. And not just
our country, but you look at the UK. You look
at the mass uprising of people in the UK because
of mass immigration, and it's not necessarily because of a
particular group of people, although yes, many of them are
Muslim immigrants that have come to the UK. But what
you're starting to see shape up is that as anyone

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criticizes the mass immigration the open borders in the UK,
they are being arrested. If you post something on social
media in the United Kingdom and you criticize immigration, a
legal immigration to that, then you are going to be
visited by law enforcement. Right now, in the UK they
have thirty people being arrested per day because of what

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they're posting on social media.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And just think about the comic I think he posted
even before he got to the UK and he says
something about UK or whatever, but when he landed, they
actually arrested him at the airport.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah you're talking about a comic. Yeah, yeah, there was
a comedian there. Yeah, he had said something in one
of his I guess sets. This was not even in
the UK, but as he landed he was arrested. And
so you can do things and say things outside of
the UK and if you return you will also be arrested.
So maybe you wonder like what is this all about? Right,
And even with these shootings, even with the mass immigration

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the open borders the United States has had for especially
the past four years, I mean I think right now
under Trump, although I do criticize Trump on a lot
of things that are going on right now, but we
do know, at least from what we're being told, is
that there is basically no illegal immigration coming across our
southern border at the moment.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, they said it was zero pretty much.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Zero per day. But what happened under the Biden a
minute stration was not by accident. It wasn't because they
couldn't control the border. It was because they didn't want to.
It is because they wanted to let as many people
from foreign nations across our border as possible. They want
to completely destroy and up in sovereignty of the United
States of America.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
They want to degrade our values.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
They want to take out the Christian nationalism conversation completely.
And although I'm not saying that everyone in the United
States has to be Christian, but even just the Christian aspect,
the foundational beliefs and values, our constitution, everything the United
States was built on, is being destroyed. And it's being
destroyed by globalist narratives. And so when we talk about
the deep state, we talk about like who could possibly

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be behind some of these things? Well, Number one, I
think if you look back to COVID nineteen. I think
it was a combined effort. You had the deep state
inside the United States, which I call them bureaucrats. You know,
there are typically far more bureaucrats, non elected positions in
government than there are elected positions by far. You're talking

(26:58):
about the CDC, You're talking about the FTC. We have
a good friend that got sued by the FTC because
he had a product, a nasal spray that studies were
showing that it actually could possibly prevent you from dying
from COVID, And so they presented studies.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
What did the FTC do well?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
They decided to sue this company, and they sued this
company because of the fact that they did not want
any medicine or anything that could possibly help people during
whatever their agenda or narrative was during this time, they
wanted to sue them. And now that company is now
suing the FTC to make sure that never happens again.
But what we have to understand is that when we
look at apps that are created to follow ICE agents,

(27:43):
you know, is it an app that was created by
intelligence inside of the United States?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Doubtful.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think these apps are being created by these movements
by the Open Society foundations and by the globalist to
make sure that whatever the America right now is trying
to do to continue their sovereignty, to continue to nationalism,
to bring back and restore America to what it's supposed
to be, they're trying to make sure they upend that,

(28:08):
you know, the New World Order, the Great Reset, all
these things that we've talked about in so many episodes,
The Agenda twenty thirties, all of these things are agendas
that they want to accomplish by the year twenty thirty
to where the United States of America will no longer
look like or even close to resemble the United States
of America that was written and that was afforded by

(28:30):
our constitutional founders and our forefathers, and they want to
completely upend and destroy that.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I'm not a huge Nick Fuintz supporter, but he did
have a really good point about that when you're bringing
so many immigrants into America, America is no longer going
to be It's no longer going to be America because
they're not assimilating into America into the melting pot. They're

(28:57):
coming in with their own religions, their own beliefs and
it's all becoming divided instead of being a melting pot.
And I thought that was a really good explanation of
what happens when we have so many immigrants come in,
and I think that there has to be a limit,
and the way we get a limit is we have
to close the borders.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah. Well, I mean the problem is is that melting
pot is one thing, right, America's kind of always been
a melting pot. But then there's also going to come
a time to where there are factions of religions that
are going to try to take over.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
And we're seeing that in the UK.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
We are seeing a call for Sharia law inside of
the UK, which is a Muslim you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
A Muslim law.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It upends all other nationality or national laws. Sharia law
is the highest law of all according to Muslims. And
so this is what we're starting to see in the UK.
Same thing is probably happening in many places across the
country here in the United States or America as well.
But we look at you know, what we're talking about
today is the left wing violence. Right there is obviously

(29:59):
a left wing rhetoric that is taken over the country
that says that if you are a Christian, you are maga,
you are a Trump supporter, you're conservative, you liked Charlie
Kirk or anything he said or stood for, if you
believe in Jesus, if you believe in God, those are
all things that make you a target now in America.
And you know, we've had this problem for a very

(30:22):
long time. Now. I'm not saying, you know, if you
got it. We've probably done five episodes on the Charlie
Kirk assassination. One of the things I do disagree with
Ashton Forbes on in this note is that I don't
necessarily think it just sums up to this is a
left wing radical single shooter in the Charlie Kirk assassination.
That's one of the things I don't think right. I

(30:43):
think there's so many things wrong with what we're being told,
what we're being shown, all the evidence that is presenting
itself on social media. And I say evidence because we
don't have any evidence from the FBI. We do not
have any evidence from the government. And you know, to
some degree that makes sense, because it's going to take
some time for them to kind of go through the
rabbit holes, go down the pipeline see who he was

(31:05):
communicating with. And then also you don't want to just
go out there and throw everything out there to the
public when you do have a trial. Tyler Robinson is
in custody, right.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
But there is a point where I think the FBI
can lay down some evidence and give it to the
people so conspiracy theories don't happen where they can explain, oh,
this is this, and this is why this happened.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
We've already looked into this.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
This is you know, give us something, because when you
give us nothing, then people are going to go down
the rabbit holes.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well they're going to look, well, they did give us something.
They gave us text messages which have no time stamps.
It appears to be like from the eighteen hundreds to
where it seems like a guy that is in his twenties,
that is not just in his twenties, but according to
all mainstream media and the government that he was a
far left liberal, a leftist, you know, and this guy
is saying my love, my mind, my old man, my

(31:55):
old man. The way he described the gun. There's just
so many weird things that those texts mustages say that
just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
And like I've said on our podcasts, there are no timestamps.
They just read it to us. We don't see the
actual text messages.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
No, and I think it were actually Discord messages from
what we understand, but we don't know for sure. And
then the other weird thing about the Charlie Kirk thing
was that, you know, Discord did originally come out once
they found out that hey, supposedly Tyler Robinson was on Discord,
and he was, But what they said was, we did
not see anything through anything we have researched or investigated

(32:33):
that shows Tyler Robinson communicating, planning, or doing anything that
has to do with this Charlie kirk'ssassination. But then you
had the government come out and they're trying to blame
Discord very heavily right now for like Tyler Robinson planning
all this stuff. He not only was a part of
this one group, but he was a part of multiple groups,
the far left or the like, I don't know, the

(32:53):
globalist groups that were trying to indoctrinate or radicalize him.
But then you have Discord saying no, that's not the case.
And then just tonight on Fox News, I was watching
and I find it. I found an interest. I think
it was Jesse Waters that was saying, you know Discord.
You know how many of these shooters are using Discord,
I said at the very beginning. For some reason, the
government right now has it out for Discord. They want

(33:15):
rid of Discord, very similarly to what we have saw
with Telegram. They want rid of Telegram as well.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
But they use the same apps.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah they do, but if they're not going to own
these apps, then they don't want them to be a
part of anything that has to do with us, because
there are some encryptions that make it harder for some
governments to be able to hack. But I want to
go ahead and also play another clip now. This is
another clip from today's press conference, and uh SO as

(33:44):
US Attorney Larsen confirms that the ICE Dallas shooter was
a left wing terrorist who was targeting ICE agents. So
let me go ahead and play this real quick. We
will share the screen and you will also be able
to hear it if you are on audio, so don't worry,
you don't have to see this.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
Initially, I want to commend the cooperation of the Dallas
Police Department, the Dallas County Sheriff's Office, the FBI, the
atf ICE, and HSI for their swift and decisive response
to this crime. Members of these agencies quickly secured the

(34:22):
scene and the evidence and worked tirelessly to determine any
continuing threat. Due to their efforts, it did not take
long to ascertain the identity of the shooter, who was
deceased by a self inflicted gunshot wound, and that he
very likely acted alone. His name is Joshua yn twenty

(34:47):
nine of Fairview, Texas.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Let me just.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Review a very brief summary of the timeline of yesterday's attack.
We believe at some point around three o'clock in the
morning that the suspect was seen driving on footage with a.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Large ladder on his car.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
And we believe that that is what he used to
position himself on top of the building. The shooting itself
started at approximately six point thirty am. After the shooting started,
Dallas Police Department arrived on Moss, secured the scene. Law

(35:30):
enforcement officers found the sniper dead. They found bullets on
the rooftop, one of which was labeled with the words
anti ICE. That morning, gunshots sprayed the length of the building,
the windows and law enforcement vans that were in the

(35:50):
sally Port area. Detainees were struck by these bullets. One
was killed, two were wounded, and both of them are
undergoing treatment. Shortly thereafter, the FBI began its meticulous work
at the crime scene. At the same time, we obtained
and executed multiple search warrants yesterday for devices and locations

(36:15):
associated with the sniper. FBI agents executed a search warrant
at the sniper's residence yesterday and there found a collection
of notes. First, I want to point out that one
of these notes or papers, the sniper explicitly.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
States, yes, it was just me.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
That statement appears to be correct at this point in
the investigation. Notably, these loose notes included a game plan
of the attack and target areas at the facility. He
called the ICE employees people showing up to collect a
dirty paycheck. He wrote that he intended to maximize lethality

(37:02):
against ICE personnel and to maximize property damage at the facility.
He hoped to minimize any collateral damage or injury to
the detainees and any other innocent people. It seems that
he did not intend to kill the detainees or harm them.
It's clear from these notes that he was targeting ICE

(37:25):
agents and ICE personnel. The tragic irony for his evil
plot here is that it was a detainee who was
killed and two other detainees that were injured when he
fired into the sally port. He also hoped his actions
would give ICE agents real terror of being gunned down,

(37:48):
and he did this to induce constant stress in their lives.
He hoped his actions would terrorize ICE employees and interfere
with their work, which he called human trafficking. And this
what he did is the very definition of terrorism.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Again, his notes reveal.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Yes, it was just me and my brain, and he
said good luck with the digital footprint, and of course
we take this to mean that he deleted evidence from
his devices. His words were definitively anti ICE. That said,
we did not find evidence of membership in any specific

(38:38):
group or entity, nor did he mention any specific government
agency other than ICE. Among his papers, though, was a
handwritten note in which, in crude words, he expressed his hatred.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
For the federal government.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
Finally, I want to addres the heroism of our federal
agents yesterday while under fire ICE agents and ATF agents
who were also present in the facility Sallyport area work
together to remove detainees from the vans and get them

(39:18):
to safety while the bullets were flying. These agents were heroic,
clearly willing to lay down their lives to save the
lives of the detainees in their custody. And that's an
extremely important point to make at this point in time.
I want to express my deepest appreciation for the bravery

(39:39):
of these law enforcement officers yesterday and every single.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Day that they go out there to keep us safe.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
I'll now turn it over to the FBI. FBI Special
Agent charge of the Dallas Field Office.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
All right, there you go. So that was you know
the I think she's the Attorney General.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Is that correct? I believe so, Yes, I think that's
what it was.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Either way, we're gonna have start Bannon ladders.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I think we got to have ladder control in this
country because if we do not have a ladder control,
we're going to keep getting these loan gunmen that are
carrying ladders on their pres on their pres or yeah
and their backpack. Yeah, it's like they had a twelve
foot ladder, but he had in his backpack and you

(40:29):
can see it right here in the grainy video. You
see that ladder, that was it? So here here's the
thing too about all this, and I want to say, like,
what is is this guy a long shooter?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Do we know everything about this?

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Well?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
We know more about this guy so far, at least
than we knew about or know about Tyler Robinson. Absolutely
more than we know about Thomas Crooks. He made sure
to mention yes, it was just me, so saying there's
no other accomplices. I didn't work with anyone else, which
is kind of also interesting to me because it's like,

(41:02):
if you're going to knowingly go and kill yourself, which
you know he did, and there's some pretty graphic images
actually out there on social media of him after he
killed himself on the roof, But if you're going to
go do this, you know I would be.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
It was just weird.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm surprised he didn't implicate somebody, right, you know, just
try to say that he was working with this group
or organization or something, but he didn't. He said, no,
it's just me. Don't worry guys, and I'm only after ice.
Although I think this guy literally has killed more immigrants
than the government has at this point, so you know,
good job. You're a shitty ass shooter. And you know,

(41:42):
this is also maybe the difference in you know, people
that are on the left not saying that they're not necessarily,
you know, good shooters. But we also have to understand
that people on the left for years has been calling
for gun control because guns are dangerous. Guns are dangerous.
We cannot have guns. There's no way we can have guns.
They're just too dangerous. We hate guns, we despise guns.

(42:04):
Which is why likely he killed a detainee instead of
an ICE agent, right because he's a shitty shooter. He
somehow got access to a weapon which was legally bought.
He did not steal the weapon or anything else.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
In August of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
August of twenty twenty five, he shot in not I
think he's shot into vehicles, also the windows of the
actual ICE facility, which is where I believe he did
actually kill one of the detainees.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Now I thought they were in the van well.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
That he shot into the van, But I think where
he killed them was in the window. But I could
be wrong about that, you know. And then so his
accuracy versus Tyler Robinson. Just think about this for a
second you know, Tyler Robinson. According to what we know
so far is that this guy took a thirty all
six Mauser rifle, an old one from his grandfather that

(42:52):
had what he mentioned in text matches to be a
probably two thousand dollars scope, and he some how what
it seems like, disassembled, reassembled, dissembled, reassembled.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Threw it in the woods. Hey, I got to reassemble
this before I throw it in the woods.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
So people can find a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yes, like why would you not keep it disassembled?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
And why would you not throw all those multiple pieces
around everywhere you can possibly find, Like if you're going
to disassemble a rifle after you shoot someone, it is
to hide it better like after the fact, not to
hide it in your bag or whatever. Obviously, yes, that
would be a good reason. But I'm saying, why would
you ever reassemble the rifle and then throw it in
the woods. But then there's also so much there's also

(43:37):
so much that this doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Either because there was a screwdriver on the roof.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It didn't make sense, you know, because a lot of
people say, you can't even you don't need a screwdriver
to disassemble a weapon like that, Well, it.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Just depends because there are certain thirty all six rifles
that you need two tools which are not usually even
screwdrivers number one and number two.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know this screwdriver.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
If he left it on the roof but then reassembled
the rifle after he got off it, then did he
bring two screwdrivers that we're supposed to believe because he
just pre planned this so well, you know, there's a
lot that doesn't make sense. But what we do know
is that whoever shot Charlie Kirk was a very good shot. Yeah,
whatever happened in that scenario did not miss. It was
not multiple shots fired. It was one shot, one kill.

(44:22):
It was you know, even if it was at two
hundred yards, which is what they're saying, which we don't
know for sure the exact distances from the top of
that building to where Charlie Kirk's tent was. But what
we do know is that two hundred yards on a
thirty all six is not a very far distance. That's
almost like a pop shot. But regardless of all of that,
you have one Tyler Robinson taking this shot clean allegedly

(44:45):
Tyler Robinson, even though he supposedly admitted to all of
this in text message he admitted this to his boyfriend's
slash girlfriend whatever, and he talked like he was from
the eighteen hundreds. And then and then on top of all,
he then is now not cooperating with law enforcement. He's
saying that, look, I didn't do this, I didn't kill anyone.

(45:07):
I didn't shoot anybody. And so how long is it
going to be until Tyler Robinson is dead in this
prison cell? That's what I want to know, is when
is he going to be suicided?

Speaker 4 (45:16):
And it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Too, because there's so many videos out there that are
now saying that the wound what we saw was the
exit wound, it was not actually the entrance, and people
are saying it came from behind him or to the
right of him, and it didn't come from the building.
And there's even people have then like audio tests of

(45:39):
the shot the sound of itself, and then we'll say, yeah,
that echo and it could have been to the building
to the left that it was definitely not the building
where he was at, where Robinson was at. There's so
many different conspiracies I guess out there, but I think
there are is because it doesn't make sense of what
we're seeing on video.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, and then you also have which I will share
the screen here. You also have what Joshua wan or
Haunt whatever the hell they're saying his last name is,
I don't know, don't don't care, Jean. But they're saying
that this is the bullets that he left behind. So
for those that are in audio, you cannot see this,
but it shows a let me go full screen on this.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It shows anti Ice on these on this on these rounds.
So you know, a lot of people are saying conspiracy.
They're saying, oh my god, yeah he wrote it looks
like in ballpoint pen anti Ice on.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
He's not carved in or anything. It's just no pin.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
It doesn't look like it is.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
And so a lot of people were saying this is
a conspiracy, Like is this like trying to kind of
push the narrative towards.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
The left right?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And I've seen a lot of conspiracies out there, saying
ever since Cash Betel became FBI director, is when we're
starting to see all these bullets that are.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Carved or have.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
These sayings of whatever things or whatever, and they're almost
blaming the FBI, saying the FBI is doing this saying
it's these shooters.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Now, I also want to show you something out. So
this is Joshua's sister. So Joshua's sister is a known criminal.
She's very much a criminal. Actually this is her and
I don't know, she said, I think it's ki Jean.
I passed my written state board exam. She's going to

(47:32):
be a barber, she or he whatever that is. This
is Kyoko Jean is the name. It looks very interesting. She,
I guess is a she I guess I can say
has been in jail multiple times. Right here some of
her mugshots from back in twenty twenty two, twenty eight nineteen,

(47:52):
or twenty nineteen, nineteen, nineteen nineteen. She's been booked on
so many different charges. So she's criminal as well. But
now we have to get to the Thomas Crooks stuff
because we get to talk a little bit about this
Thomas Crooks. We still don't know a lot about Thomas Crooks, right.
We know that he was allowed to get off multiple

(48:15):
shots towards Donald Trump, but we still just don't know
a lot. What is interesting though, as I shared the screen,
and I will show you guys, and I'll explain what
I'm saying here for those that are audio listeners. You know,
for example, right here you have newly acquired self on data.
This was back in twenty twenty four that revealed that

(48:36):
an individual who frequented or frequently visited Thomas Crook's home
and work address also visited a Washington, DC building near
an FBI office in June of twenty twenty three. So
here's the actual image. This was a selfh on data
log that shows that the same person that was going
to Thomas Crook's house was also regularly visiting the FBI

(48:59):
office right before and before I think it was six
months up until the Donald Trump attempted assassination.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
So that leaves you with questions.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
But then you also have interviews with some of Thomas
Crook's people, or Thomas Matthew Crooks people that kind of
knew him, and one of them said, hey, look, you know,
he actually wasn't very good actually at shooting, to be honest.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
It really looked like he would be a good shooter,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Now, but let's play this real quick.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I'm gonna play this and we'll take ourselves off the screen.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Here you go.

Speaker 8 (49:35):
I mean, he would sit alone at lunch. I mean,
he was just an outcast. And you know how kids
are nowadays, so they're going to see someone like that
and they're gonna target him because they think it's funny
or whatever. So it's the best way I can describe it.
It's honestly kind of sad, Like I don't want to
say this is what provoked it, but you never know.

Speaker 9 (49:56):
You said it was a lower Yeah, I want to
say he was a loner more because he was just
he was quiet, but like he was just bullied, Like
he was bullied so much, so much.

Speaker 10 (50:11):
Yeah, what did they still remember at all?

Speaker 7 (50:13):
What they said to.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Him or called him.

Speaker 8 (50:15):
No, he was just made fun of, I guess for
the way he dressed his appearents.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I mean he would sit there. I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I'm gonna stop sharing that now.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
So he saw in mind that Thomas Crooks was kicked
off of his rifle team because he sucked. He wasn't good,
he wasn't a good shot, he wasn't a rifle team.
But he literally sucked and he got kicked off his
rifle team. Now that might explain why he had to
take so many shots, right, But it also doesn't explain

(50:50):
why the Secret Service allowed him to get off so
many shots. You know, we have Corey Comparatory, which was killed.
He was a firefighter that was there. He was a
Trump support that was at this rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
He is unfortunately a casualty because of Thomas Crooks and
Donald Trump was very near a casually during this assassination attempt.

(51:13):
But the interesting thing too is like why was Thomas
Crook's house scrubbed? Now, from what reports show is that
Thomas Crooks after the fact, when people in law enforcement,
like regular law enforcement, went to this house, they said
that this house appeared to be like a model home.

(51:34):
And so there were many videos in the aftermath of
the assassination attempt that showed media would find Thomas Crook's
father that would be walking through you know, parking lots
or whatever. They would try to interview him. He would
never talk to anybody. And just to be honest, he
kind of looked like a slob, you know, he kind
of looked like a slab.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
He looked like and normally, when you look like a slob,
you kind of live like a slob exactly normally. But
even in his house, they said they didn't. I don't
did they even have civerl silverare.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
No, No, they had no silverware, They had no nothing.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
They It was like the house was professionally scrubbed completely.
And that leads to, uh, this picture which I think
I have this picture shown right here. Oh no, it's
actually not a picture, it's a video. But so right after,
not long after Thomas Crooks actually tried to assassinate Trump,
this is there was someone that showed up kind of

(52:24):
near where he lived. And I'll explain the video after
the fact for the video listeners. It's a very short video,
but here is what it shows. What's going on. I
have no idea what I can't.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Why not? Okay, you're not.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
You can move on to I can photograph, you.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Can get out of the way.

Speaker 11 (52:56):
I got you can go.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
All right, I have a go going one. So there
you go.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So that was a guy that kind of showed up
near where Thomas Crooks lived. They had the entire road
closed off. This was right before when some of the
other law enforcement came in and said, look like this
house was professionally scrubbed. There was no silverware in the jors.
It was like you could eat off the floors. And
like I say, like Sherry kind of said too, like

(53:24):
when you look at his father and kind of look
at that, it's like he did not look like he
would live like he was in a model home. This
was something very strange. And not only that, I mean
it was just a simple fact that you have someone
that regularly visited the FBI office.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Why are they going to his house? A teenager's house. No,
you know, And when we dove all into all this stuff,
why would a teenager have off like shore accounts with
a lot of money in them?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
That just doesn't none of it make sense.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
No, So he had a lot of He had a
lot offshore accounts.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
And not just offshore accounts, he had accounts worth a
million and millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Right, so someone was funding him. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Could this have been from maybe the same people that
might have been funding this operation of Charlie Kirk, because
you know, you think about Charlie Kirk. Right, you had Trump,
which was not president yet he was campaigning to be
president of the United States, and Butler Pennsylvania. This was
the summer of July leading up to the election.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
And which is in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Also one of the reasons why Trump just kind of
superseded everybody in the election was partly because of most
people thought he almost just got assassinated by the left.
That's what many people believed. So that really did help
his cause. That's why there's also conspiracies out there about
this assassination. There's conspiracies with everything.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Guy he didn't get shot.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, well he didn't get shot, or maybe it was
set up, or maybe it was some type of whatever.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
But I don't know how you would set up something
just braising your ear though.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
That's kind of scary.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
It's almost like Alec Murdoch, you know, when he had
his friend try to shoot him, but I think he
wanted to shoot him, to kill him, and it just
braised him.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Maybe, I mean, maybe that's possible, but I think with
Alec Murdoch thing, which no one's going to know anything
about that probably on this episode. But yeah, this this
disgrace lawyer in South Carolina. Yeah, he had someone try
to set him up or try to, I guess, kill him.
But I don't necessarily think he was intending to be killed.
I don't know, but either way, getting off of that.
What I'm saying is is that Thomas Crooks, you know,

(55:25):
I don't think it was necessarily set up that a
round was shot through someone else. There were six other rounds,
like not far from where Trump passed, where Trump was.
Some of those rounds hit hydraulics on tractors where they
were holding up the flag, and you could see the
hydraulics just kind of basically exploding in this and so
I don't think it was a conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
I don't think it was set up.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I do think that they automatically, once they knew Trump
was okay, used it as a photo op. Although the
main goal of Secret Service is like get the get
the guy out of there right period in the story,
there is no like, hey, I'm going to stand up
and do this thing. Fight fight, fight, and let me
get my shoes. I understand where people saw that, but
I don't necessarily think it's conspiracy on the Trump side.

(56:06):
I absolutely think it's a conspiracy on the other side.
Who was Thomas Crooks, who did he interact with, Why
was their FBI informants or agents or whoever that was
visiting his house, Why was he also going to gun ranges?
That were gun ranges that the Department of Homelwned Security
actually also trained at.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
But I want to play this clip as well.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We're getting to all of this because this is talking
about kind of the house cleaning.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
This is in Congress.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
This is a congressional hearing, guys, So let me share
this and this is the congressional hearing which I thought
was pretty groundbreaking.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Check it out.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Have you been getting those messages from people like I have,
I have naser? You haven't. Well, there's a lot of
people in this room that have been getting the same messages.
Why do you think that is Why do you think
that a lot of Americans are like this doesn't add up,
This doesn't make sense, guys, How could this? Many things
have gone on right, Like the things I pointed out,
A twenty year old kid one hundred and fifty got

(57:03):
one hundred and fifty yards of the President of the
United States with an Air fifteen, flew a drone to
conduct site surveillance, spotted with the rangefinder ranging targets, then
lost had advanced explosive devices on him. With no military training.
Nobody was placed in the most obvious spot to conduct

(57:24):
counter sniper creations. I was the sniper in the seal
team's Colonel. As soon as I got out of the
suv and I saw that sniper that water tower, I.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Was like, that's exactly where I'd be.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
Put me right there, so obvious. After partisan attempts to
bankrupt him, imprison him for seven hundred and fifty years,
and countless depictions as a modern day hitler, are you
surpriser that a lot of Americans are like, maybe there's
more to this story.

Speaker 10 (57:53):
I wouldn't begin to speculate about what the American people think,
Sir colonel, did.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Your team make entry and conduct investigation at this suspects
home prior to the shooting?

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Excuse me story? How pass should your.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Team make entry and conduct any investigation at the suspects home?

Speaker 10 (58:11):
I believe we had people that participated in that securing
of it.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
There were bomb assets that we provided. Mister Chairman, Can
I have thirty more seconds?

Speaker 9 (58:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, I'm letting everybody couch on the night off.

Speaker 10 (58:26):
Since then, did you get any reports from any of
your agents of anything fishy at the home?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I was brief done.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Was there any silverware found in the home or trash?

Speaker 10 (58:39):
I have no nothing in the briefing that I was given.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Was it extremely clean? Almost like a medical lab? Were
you giving any of those repeats? Okay, that's what I'm here?
Interesting there you go?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
So yeah, I mean, you know, he he kind of
took that guy to school because there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
And the very interesting thing about this congressman and what
he asked this general was did your team go to
Thomas Crook's house before? He said, prior to the shooting?

Speaker 4 (59:14):
And he's like, wait, what what.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Did you do? And he had no idea what he
was about to say or what he should say, because
he's like, wait, wait, what the hell did you just say?
Because he had some intel this congressman that apparently a
team from our government went to Thomas Krook's house before
and prior to the shooting. So what were they doing

(59:36):
at this house prior to the shooting? But then you
also think about with the reports that we had saw
about the people that were showing up at Thomas Crook's
house that had also ties to where the same cell
phones were going to FBI buildings in Washington, D C.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Was this what they were referring to?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
And when you you know, when he asked him, it
was pretty obvious that he did not know what to
say at all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah, it was just crazy that all these shootings that
are happening lately, you know, everyone's looking towards the FBI.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
And when you think about that, if the FBI had
anything to do with this, they're the ones investigating all
these things. And that is the problem with all of
this is I almost feel like, you know, even like
with the shooting at ICE, this ICE facility in Texas,
the FBI is investigating. It's not local police, it's not

(01:00:31):
these other people, It's the FBI. And I think a
lot of people are beginning to feel like they don't
trust the FBI. And when they're investigating their own cases,
who do you believe?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I mean the FBI. I mean thinking about Cash
matel I've said this a million times. You know, Cash
Hotel went on all of these podcasts leading up to
his nomination as the FBI director. You know, he went
on him for a year and a half, two years.
You know, I had said this on our telegram. By
the way, follow our telegram. Go out there, check out
our telegram. It is the best of Earth podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
You can find us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Go there. We do live streams or live audio chats
usually like every other night. So we're talking with you guys,
we're getting theories, we're kind of bouncing stuff off of
you because so much of what we do on this
podcast for so long has been based on your opinions.
We're a team here, so it's not just us, right.
But one of the things was is like Cash would

(01:01:24):
tell you know, he went on podcasts for two years
and he made everybody think that, you know, if I
was ever this, and if I was ever FBI director,
if I was ever in a position of power, that
I will do all of these things to make sure
that we have answers on day one. But yet he
is FBI director. What has he said about the Epstein files. Well,
he said recently in the congressional hearing. Yeah, not only that,

(01:01:48):
he said, we know based on evidence, that's what he
said that Jeffrey Epstein didn't traffic in anybody to anyone.
So what you're basically saying is all the witnesses that
we know for sure of are liars, because we did
at least have in the Gaislaine Maxwell trial at least

(01:02:08):
four or five witnesses. You have a Virginia jew Free,
which you know, supposedly died after a bus accident which
no one said was you know, all the witnesses said
was like a fender bender.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
There's no way that she was injured whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Oh, but then she was sick in dialysis with her
kidney and her kidneys were failing. Yeah, but there was
all these crazy stories going on around her. And she
was a young chick, like in her forties.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yeah, and she had you know, she had posted an
Instagram picture of black eyes and bruised and all this stuff,
and you know, she died, and she died because she
has so much information. I think that if like how
Cash Betel and Pam Bondi and all these people are
saying that Epstein wasn't nobody, don't worry about Epstein.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
You know he is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
He didn't traffic anybody, anybody. The only thing we've found
on the laptop as child P. Well I wasn't gonna
say that word because it's YouTube, but anyways, yeah, child
P is the only thing we found, guys, And so
we don't have to look at this anymore. And every
time that the media asked Trump and Pambondi and all
them about you know what is the you know, are

(01:03:20):
you going to release the files? And they're like, quit
asking us about the files. They get pissed off frankly
about the files, and then Trump said, it's a hoax.
It is a left wing hoax. That is what we're seeing, guys.
It's a left wing hoax. We need to quit looking
at this, Like why do we care about someone that's dead?
Is what Trump said. So whereas I, for sure, leading

(01:03:41):
up to the twenty twenty four election, you know, I
was like, look, we got to get Trump and because
there's no way in hell I'm voting for, you know,
for Joe Biden or Kamala.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Harris or who they all go together, they're all tied together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yes, But also at the same time, that doesn't mean
we should not hold who is in office now accountable,
and I think that that's very important. Now. I did
want to also because I know this is talking a
lot about Thomas Crooks at this point, and we'll get
into some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
But here's a good video I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Found, and this was not long after the assassination attempt,
but I wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
To at least play this because I thought it was
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
So here we go, so this is an ex account,
and he talks about we still don't know anything about
Thomas Crooks.

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
Donald Trump's Butler Pennsylvania rally will go down as one
of the most historically significant political rallies in presidential history,
but the act that made it so significant is already
the most forgotten. It's now been five months, almost six
months since Thomas Matthew Crooks tried to assassinate Donald Trump
at that Pennsylvania rally and killed an innocent father, and

(01:04:53):
us been in the process. We've been following this investigation
since it happened, trying to ask questions, and we still
know very, very little. What was Crook's motive for the shooting.
How did the Secret Service even let this guy get
eight shots off? Why was his house professionally scrubbed, What
did the FBI find when they finally broke into his phone,

(01:05:15):
How did a twenty year old come to possess two
improvised explosive devices that they found in the trunk of
his car, and what was he planning on using them for?
None of these questions do we have the answers for.
It's been almost six months. Ask yourself, do we know
anything more about this? Guy than we did the day
after this happen. And the answer is no, absolutely no,

(01:05:37):
we don't. The last official update we got was on
August twenty eighth, in which the FBI told us they
don't have a definitive motive and they haven't uncovered any
credible evidence for co conspirators. That's it three and a
half months since the last update. Well, yesterday, Republicans in
Congress tried to find some of these answers by a

(01:05:59):
whole thing of hearing with the Acting Secret Service Director.
Watch this, Congressman.

Speaker 11 (01:06:04):
What you're not seeing is the sack of the detail
off out of the pictures view. And that is the
day where we remember more than three thousand people that
have died on nine to eleven. I actually responded to
ground zero. I was there going through the ashes of
the World Trade Center. I was there at fresh Keells.

Speaker 10 (01:06:25):
I'm not asking you that you are in the same
where you're there to show respect died. Do not know
that you're trying to be Do not invoke nine.

Speaker 11 (01:06:37):
Eleven for political purposes?

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Oh not, I'm invoking ask him.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
And don't me.

Speaker 10 (01:06:50):
Elected member of Congress, And I'm asking you a serious question,
And you were I am a public servant who has
served this.

Speaker 11 (01:06:55):
Nation, and you won't time questions on our day, on
our country's darkness.

Speaker 10 (01:07:02):
So instead of answering their question, serious questions from our
elected representatives, this guy lashes out, provide zero information, no
new information. All he says is, we don't want to
rush to judgment. The DOJ withheld requested info from Congress
about this shooter. They're not telling us what was on
his phone, even though they know what's on it. They're

(01:07:25):
withholding information that Congress is demanding. The whole thing just reeks,
reeks like a cover up. This is as high profile
a crime as you get, someone shooting Donald Trump in
the head, and we get nothing, absolutely nothing. January twentieth
can't come soon enough. We need Cash Fattel in that
job in the FBI director's spot, who, by the way,

(01:07:47):
Cash plans on setting up a twenty four to seven
declassification office, which would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
All right, there you go, And that was what he said. Yeah,
Cash Hotel is doing all this crazy stuff he was
about to do. And this was before obviously Trump got in.
Cash Retel. He was going to have a declassification office.
We're on day one we're gonna do all this stuff.
We have a saft shit from you Cash Retel or
ham Bondie really any the file it's all lies.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Yeah, but they do say, oh what, we released all
the files.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
We released the JFK files, the MLAK files, the Alien files.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
We even acted still, we.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Even released the Epstein files. We've given you file after
file after file, and there is nothing near to see, yeah,
on all the files.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
You also got to remember Thomas Crooks. He did make
an appearance in a twenty twenty three black rock video
that was filmed at his high school in Bethel, Pennsylvania.
And uh, you know, very interesting because not necessarily putting
everything on blackrock, but there is connections. Right, Blackrock owns
most of everything in America, and not just America, a

(01:08:50):
lot of the world. And so if you think about, like,
what does blackrock really mean, how does that even play
into any of this? Well, it's you know, even with
the Charlie Kirk thing, and I go back to this
and so many people still have so many questions and
we do as well. I mean, there's a ton of
evidence out there that just are not evidence. I guess
you can say videos, there's a lot of crazy conspira.

(01:09:12):
I mean, there's there's some theories that are coming out
now that are just crazy, they really are. And and look,
I understand like when you don't really give a lot
of information, when a lot of stuff is not adding
up about the Charlie kirkssassination, there's going to be more
conspiracies and more conspiracies to come out, even about Erica Kirk,
even about like some of her involvement and what she's

(01:09:34):
been involved in the past and who she was connected with,
and the fact that she was I guess somewhat of
an actor or I guess actress at.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
One point in time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
And then you know, even people are saying, you know,
her appearance at the Charlie Kirk memorial seemed kind of weird, right,
you know, she I understand that she lost her husband,
but it was like the way they presented her on
stage and a way that she you know, would be
on the microphone. She was look up and it was
like almost kind of like faked tears. It was like
a photo op moment, right, And it was something that

(01:10:05):
that they really wanted to highlight. That was one thing
that they really wanted to highlight let's make sure that
when Erica Kirk does this or whatever, we get this,
we get this thing, we get the shot, right, Well,
this is what we need.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
The thing I don't understand about the whole I guess
memorial slash revival of Charlie Kirk is it was more
like a revival and slash political event. It was not
really geared towards the loss of her husband, and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
I don't know, it was just so it was like
it was like a Trump rally.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah, really is what it became. I mean, let's just
be honest and guys, like, like I said, I mean,
we're not we're not anti Trump, and especially Sherry No, yeah,
I definitely ye try Yeah, but there's still just a
lot that doesn't make sense about the Charlie Kirk sash. Now,
I don't I don't even know if I want to
go into this. Let me just see if there's any
thing relevant that we should be talking about. I guess

(01:11:02):
as far as Charlie Kirk, I mean, there's tons of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
We've done a lot of the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Beals on you guys, there are so many conspiracies. I'm
sure you go through the conspiracies as well, but even
to the point where like when Erica Kirk did the
photo op with her husband in the casket and his
hands are laying just like this, and she's got her
rings on top of his ring on top of his hands.

(01:11:28):
And number one, people are like, his hands don't even
look real. Well, people dispel that saying, well, it's because
they're dead hands or whatever for sure. And then another
thing is people just have zeroed in on the rings
and the rings have some kind of symbolization of like
Freemasons and why are they wearing them? But I've looked
at other photos of Erica Kirk and you know, other

(01:11:50):
photo ops, and she always wears the same rings and
so does he. So I'm not sure if it has
anything to do with Freemasons or not, but a lot
of people are speculating that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, Like I said, there's so many conspiracies, there's
so many. Number one, you know, if you look at
like the bullet for example, what Charlie kirk thirty out
six round, which is one of the largest rounds besides
the fifty cow, And then obviously if you get into
the military grade, military grade stuff, that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Is very telling.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I mean it's huge, and this is a round that
is made to go through elk and moose and deer
and anything you can possibly think of. And not only
hold on, I'm sorry, not only do we have to
understand that this round is created for hunting, for taking
down big game. You know, when you shoot this through

(01:12:43):
a elk or a moose, and you got to think
about the mass of these creatures. The mass of these animals.
You're talking about probably three feet in diameter or wide.
And sometimes those rounds will also go through the bone,
and they'll go through the bone and shoot out the
other side still and there'll be a gaping hole on

(01:13:05):
the out, on the other side of where you actually
shot the moose.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Or elk or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
And so what you're telling us as the official narrative,
is that he was shot with a thirty out six
a Mauser rifle with a according to text Messes, a
two thousand dollars scope, and yet it hit him in
the throat and somehow there's no exit wound, there's no
blood splatter behind him, and the tent, hardly anyone around
him didn't really have blood whatsoever on them. I mean,

(01:13:31):
I guess there was some reports that say, yes, there
was some blood on some of the people that tried
to help him. Obviously that would be you know, that
would make sense. But you know, if he's getting shot
by a thirty out six, even from a downward angle,
coming down the throat and back behind him, you had
you had the uh, what is it his producer that

(01:13:51):
came out with that text message to say he was
made of bones of steel. That's what the That's the
only thing the surgeon can say is that Charlie Kirk
was made of bones of Still, obviously we don't believe
this shit. I mean, this is this is an obvious lie.
This is obviously something they're trying to make us believe
that is not true. And the problem with all this

(01:14:11):
is is like what is true and who is really
behind it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Is it the far left?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
And I understand people that are saying, let's not get
into conspiracies about Israel, let's not get into conspiracies about
you know, Benjaminette Yahoo and they, you know, Charlie Kirk
was kind of going this more anti Israel thing or
he was criticized in Israel. We can't make it about
that because if we do, we're we're basically taking the

(01:14:38):
blame off the left. You know, they have this ideology
that they want to kill people on the right. So
we can't we can't just start creating all of these
conspiracies to kind of take the blame and take the
focus off of the people that are really involved. And
I understand that, right, you have to understand that, but
there's still even if it is the left, it's not

(01:14:58):
just the left, guys. I mean, it's not not just
Democrats to have some type of crazy group coordination. Uh
you know, I don't know what you would almost even
call them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Maybe Uh well, why am I blinking right now?

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
But like a uh shit, anyways, Yes, I don't know
what you're saying, but I know what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
You know, as far as the left, there's so many
people out there that are taking their violence to guns.
And it's just weird to me that they aren't even
doing that because the left is anti gun, but they're
using guns to kill people on the right. I don't
think you know necessarily that when you look at all
these shootings that have occurred lately, they have not blamed

(01:15:46):
Israel for any other shootings except for Charlie Kirk. That's
that's the conspiracy that's out there now. So I and
by the way, you know the reason for that though, Yeah,
And I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
It's a religious aspect.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Yeah, I don't think they're doing that just because it's
Charlie Kirk. I mean, if that were the case, if
they hated Israel and they wanted to go after Israel,
they would use Israel for every mass shooting to Catholic churches,
you know. Yeah, they think about all that, they have
not used Israel. So it's just interesting that they are
using Israel for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, and so well we got to ask why, because
regardless of whatever people want to say, I mean, Charlie
Kirk was very critical of Israel over the past six
months or a year. Yeah, but he wanted that he
was not I know, well, of course, I mean, yes,
he has been a staunch supporter of Israel for a
very long time. But it doesn't matter about what you

(01:16:38):
did ten years ago, or five years ago or three
years ago. What it matters is is that if you're
over the past six months or a year and you
have been very critical of Israel, literally including calling out
the fact that he believed that Israel knew about the
October seventh attacks before they happened.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
He said that on I mean, there's videos out there
you can go watch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
He also talked about the fact that how much pressure
he was under and how they were trying to completely
destroy his moral character, how they were trying to destroy
his lineage, his everything that he has ever worked for
because he pushed back a little bit on Israel. So
when people do say that, hey, could this be Israel,
I think it's I think it's crazy to say that

(01:17:21):
we shouldn't even ask that question. I mean, you know,
that's like saying that we can't ask the question is
the left because of whatever? It's the same shit, I mean,
And you know, the unfortunate problem is, yes, there are
absolutely people out there that have been hardcore anti Israel
or against Israel and pretty much everything, and especially since

(01:17:41):
October seventh, since October seventh happened, and it wasn't even
really October seventh, No one was really against Israel on
October seventh. Israel. Actually they had a lot of people
for Israel because they were like, look, Hamas attacked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Them and that's very bad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
And so most people were at the least on the
side of Israel. They had more of the public sentiment
going for their favor than they didn't. It was when
Israel went into Gaza and started to basically annihilate everything
in Gaza, which actually, if you look at the previous
videos and pictures of Gaza, very very pretty place actually.

(01:18:17):
I mean, you know, they were on the sea, they
had pretty buildings, pretty beaches, looked like a pretty decent
life or place to live, to be honest, outside of
the you know, missile barrages back and forth between Israel
and Palestine for so many years. But I think it
was where Israel lost all I guess you can say

(01:18:39):
not all, but a lot of respect, a lot of
respect or a lot of support was their response to Gaza,
to where when we were getting reports of fifty sixty
seventy eighty one hundred thousand civilians killed and we don't
even for sure know the real numbers. Could it be
less than that, I doubt it, but I think could
it be more than that? Very likely? And you know,

(01:19:02):
and and then also hearing about the blockades from where
IDF was blocking food and aid coming into Gaza. We
know that for a fact, that is a fact that's
been reported. Uh, that's not that's not a conspiracy theory
they were blocking AID going into Gaza. We also know
that when people are showing up to AID sites that
were getting bombed, we also know that, like even when
people were shown up to eight sites that were getting

(01:19:22):
shot at, including kids, this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Is stuff that did happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And that's when you know, if if you want to
radicalize the people, if you want to get those people
that are waving Hamas flags and all this shit in
the streets of America, that's the best way to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
That is the best way to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
And and then and then it just completely, it literally
completely goes against what actually happened to begin with, even
even beyond the idea that Israel may may have known
about October seventh before it happened. I mean, you got
to think Masaud is literally one of the most ad
advanced intelligence agencies in the entire world. And if you

(01:20:03):
go back and listen to our last episode with Rashid
that has worked with federal law enforcement and military to
where he's worked on MASSAD before, and then you talk
to other people that know that you can't go anywhere,
including Charlie Kirk himself said you cannot go anywhere in
Israel without someone being in the IDF you know, like
you don't just have a music festival to where six

(01:20:23):
and seven, eight hours later people were live streaming them
killing Jews in the streets and no military to be found.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
That just doesn't happen in Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
And you can ask anybody that's ever worked in Israel,
military contractor military, federal agent, officer, whatever, they all tell
you that just doesn't happen. You are surveilled in anywhere
you go in Israel at any at all times, and
especially if you are the enemy, if you are right
across the border. There's no way that there's no way

(01:20:53):
you just didn't know that that was happening for six hours.
And then better yet, Jerusalem Post where they posted, they
had whistleblowers that were telling them that Israel knew about
the attack at least a year before October seventh, and
they knew the exact day and hour and time that
this was going to happen, but they stood down, they
allowed it to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Well, because they want Palestine. They want to finally take
over that land. You know, the same shit that people
are saying about Russia. You know, Russia wants Ukraine. They
want to go back to the USSR. But yet everyone
believes that narrative. But for some reason there's a big
fight between the narrative of Israel want.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
To Russia has come out and said they want Ukraine.
They've come out exactly well, they want Commas attacked Israel
for Israel to take over Palestine. I don't think that's
what happened. But listen, but I'm not gonna we're not
going to debate and argue about it. I told you
I'm not gonna say anything, so I'm going to remind
main silent, but I'm just going to say that our

(01:21:53):
feelings disagree on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Yeah for sure, Well that's fine, but either way, So
but do you disagree You.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Think Hamas has killed Hamas's people, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I'm sure they have because they're they're piece.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Of shit, and I think that they're continuing to be killed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
But by the way, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Still not even released the hostages.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I'm not released the hostages. Stop. I'm not pro Hamas,
but what I am and I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I'm not going to debate you on this and we're
not gonna. I told you I was gonna let you
have to say so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Well, either way.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
My point is is that there is a lot to
be said about Israel. So what I'm saying is, can
we just discard Israel from the conversation about Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 11 (01:22:30):
Can know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
We can't?

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Do? I think it was Israel? Probably not, I would say.
I mean, like, if I had to give my honest opinion,
do I think that Tyler Robinson acted alone? No, I don't.
I don't think Tyler Robinson at all act alone. Do
I think that he was acting in coordinational Masad? Probably not.
That's just that's just my opinion and thoughts. And the

(01:22:52):
main reason for that is because it just doesn't make
a lot of sense, Like there is a lot of
other people that Masad would go after that has influenced
other than Charles Kirk. And then beyond that, like it
would have not happened that way, because if Masad would
have done it, you know, we wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Have known an It would be way easier, well, way done.
It would be a done deal. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
It's just like we when we had Jason Hansen on
that was a CIA guy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
He said, if we would have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Come in and done this, nobody even knew we were there,
And that's the same Massad is the same way. I
think they're more intelligent than the CIA, and for them
to screw up that bad. I just don't think it's Israel.

Speaker 7 (01:23:30):
Do.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I think there's other influences that could be, you know,
with this possibly, but I still I mean, I think
there's a lot of weird stuff going on, and I
think it's because people are jumping through all these rabbit
holes and looking at this and looking at that and saying, oh,
his ring fell off, Like what happened? How did his ringfall?
Is this a fake video? Is this ai? There's so
many questions and I think it goes back to the

(01:23:52):
questions are not being answered by FBI for people to
jump through the rabbit holes. And that's what Chad and
I do. This is what our Podcort cast is. We
jump in rabbit holes and we try to figure out
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Yeah, and less just about Israel, and then we gotta
quit talking about it. No, I like you anyways, but no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
So, but that's what I'm saying. It's we don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
But I guess the kind of consensus of this episode
is is this far left wing violence? Only? I think
number one is that there's no government entity that is
ever going to let tragedy go to waste, and they're
always going to try to blame it on the other
side no matter what. And I think number one, if

(01:24:33):
Tyler Robinson or this this guy that is anti ice
apparently you know, if or or otherwise, we're always going
to try to blame whoever best benefits us as a
political party or an administration.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
That's just what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
And we're also going to not blame people that support
and help and make sure that we are supported or
have influence in us and whatever. So the problem is
is that trying to decipher and trying to figure out
what the truth is is very hard today. It is
one of the hardest things that we have as people
is to try to figure out what the actual truth is.

(01:25:09):
What we are going to look for with Tyler Robinson's case,
with Charlie Kirk, is are we going to start actually
seeing some real evidence, like let's get ballistics, let's get autopsies,
let's get all of this stuff, because you're going to
have to explain it. You're going to have to explain
how a thirty six round did not go through Charlie
Kirk without an exit wound, You're going to have to

(01:25:31):
explain that. And an autopsy is a very easy way
to do this. Unless some reason they didn't do an autopsy,
which I do find it interesting that they quickly had
his funeral, you know, I mean that from the time
he died to the time Erica Kirk was over his
casket was very fast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
So did they do the autopsy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Have we heard anything about an autopsy that has been performed,
Because obviously, if even if you think that is a
politically motivated assassination, the number one thing that is most
important is an autopsy to where you can so where
you can see the entry, so you can see the ballistics,
you can.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
See all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Because the number one most important thing right now is
he to say it it. Besides Erica Kirk finding out
what really truly happened, like what was the round used,
what was the weapon? Who actually did it? Was he
involved with other people? The other biggest thing is like
the American people, the American people need to know. And
people might want.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
To say, well, why does the American people really need
to know all that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Well they do because like shit like this can lead
to war, It can lead to war on our own country.
It can lead to more assassins, it can lead to
more people that want to go out and start violence.
On the other side, there's a reason why we want
to be told the truth and we want to know
that justice is actually being done and not that Tyler
Robinson was a patsy, right, because that's very possible. I mean,

(01:26:52):
you look at Lee Harvey Oswald, he was.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
A patsy and maybe see a lot of similarities between
the two.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Oh. Absolutely, we've We've sure do. And I just realized
by the way, I did not turn on the blue
I did not turn on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
The blue light.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
And so you're going to do it now as.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
We're at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Let's see, let's see what happens, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Blue light?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Oh my goodness, why is this not working?

Speaker 11 (01:27:15):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
You know what is because I didn't plug it up.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Oh my gosh, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I think I actually brought the light in and then
I and then I think I did the little remote
and then it just didn't come on because it guess what,
it's not plugged up. Okay, So anyways, but I think
that's going to be it for this. Uh, there's just
so much, there's so much going on. Right now, everybody.

(01:27:39):
And I'll be honest. You know what I did all
day to day is I read the Bible. And it's
interesting because I mean I used to read the Bible
back in the day. I read it quite a few times.
I was kind of growing up, and then I kind
of got away from the Bible and God and all
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
And then so I started reading the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Today, you know, and it kind of made me feel
a little better about stuff, you know. Just I started Romans,
by the way, So if anybody wants to start reading
the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Start Romans.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Tell Romans.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Well, I started in Romans. Actually, its interesting because I
have this Bible. I have the actual Bible on my tablet,
and I opened this Bible and I go to the chapters,
like you know, there's tons of chapters and sixty six
books said the Bible to be exact. And so I
was like, where would I even start. I know the
Old Testament very well, you know, we went basically went

(01:28:27):
through all of the Old Testament. We know the Old
Testament very well. But as a Christian, as someone that
believes in Jesus, I was like, where do I even start?
And for some reason, I remember what Charlie Kirk said,
you know, there was a clip of him two weeks ago.
He said, you know, I believe that because someone asked
him and said, what is your favorite chapter? And he said, Romans,
you know, is Paul's Letter to the Romans. And someone

(01:28:48):
asked him, he said why do you Why do you
say it's Romans? And he said, because I think that's
the constitution for Christians. And I think there's so much
that you can learn just based on Romans, you know,
if you have, if you have questions about so much,
many different things. And so I started Romans today again.
I've got through quite a bit actually just today. And
I can't tell you, you know, some of the questions

(01:29:09):
I've had, some of the things I've had as far
as just that we're kind of eating at me, whether
it be the Israel America thing and Christianity and Jewish
or whatever. It kind of The Bible really does answer
a lot of questions if you're ready to read it
and actually take it in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Guys that in today's world, we're gonna look for answers
in so many different places. You may look for answers
in other places. I've been looking for answers and all
kinds of other places, whether it be you know, the internet,
which is probably one of the worst places. Maybe you
get answers from reading other books of other people's opinions
right about whether Cia or or even Palestine and Israel,

(01:29:53):
and you know, there's always some type of narrative to that.
But I feel like that the most based place that
you can go for guidance is the Bible. And I
know that a lot of people are like the Bible's boring. Well,
I don't think it is if you really truly have
in your mind you understand the time we're living in

(01:30:16):
right now, and if you are listening to podcasts like
ours to where we are so lost. We feel like
as a civilization, we're so lost as people, we're so lost.
As you know, we're literally fighting each other in this
country right now, left versus right, country versus country, skin
color versus skin color, illegal versus non illegal. Literally every

(01:30:39):
faction of everybody is fighting. I mean seriously, it's like,
just name something that divides us and people are fighting
over it. And so the only way and the only
place I think that we have to go right now,
at least in my opinion, to get any kind of
answer is to be foundation or based to where maybe
that that's the only place I'm trying to go right now.
So like, you know, God, you've got to give me

(01:30:59):
a answers. Now, I can't go look for answers for
any from any other human or any other man. I
have to look for answers that has been given to
us for thousands of years now. And I think that
that is what is starting to make me feel a
little bit less freaked out about the place we live
in the world we live in, because all that we
do look around and we see the world that we

(01:31:21):
live in this crazy and scary and tumultuous and evil.
This is not new. This happened to people throughout history.
And there's a reason why. There is guidance out there.
And I think it's the Bible, but it may it
may not be for you. And by the way, we're
not very religious people at all. It's just something I've

(01:31:44):
been doing, and so I'm going to actually start trying
to read the Bible. I was like, Hey, maybe should
read the Bible. How many people said that. I don't know,
just like people say I'm praying. How many times have
I said I'm praying. I'll pray.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Do I have a pray No? Never see I do.
See that's bad, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
But you know it's like if you say, say to someone,
I'll pray.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Yeah, like if they lost a love, love one or something.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yeah, for sure, I do pray.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
But guys, that's gonna be it for us. On this
episode of Investigatives podcast. If you are new to this,
if you're watching this on YouTube, make sure you go
to our Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Look
up investigatory conspiracy podcasts. You'll find us. We've had episodes
for what seven and a half years now. I would
encourage you to listen in the past year at least,
because I think we've gotten a little better in the
past year and over six years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Yeah, but this was a little learning experience today with
all this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Yeah, the video stuff stare with us. It's tough. It's
just a whole new format. It's a whole new thing
we're usually just used to. Like, you know, if you
want to be in pajama to do an audio, you
can do it. But it's also I don't really I'll
be honest, Like Riverside where you at bro like, there's
so many things that are not working on this, and
then stream yard is the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
It's like video there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Kind of a pain in the ass. Also, it's just weird.
But we'll figure it all out. Bear with us. We
love you guys. We're leading into October, which is scary season.
We've had a lot of kind of hard stuff that
we've been talking about the past week or week and
a half. And I know that a lot of you
like to listen to conspiracy and the ghostly stuff and
aliens and lighthearted stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
If that is yeah, fun, Yeah, the fun stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
It's lighthearted, but well it's fun, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I mean, it's the fun stuff. And it's been pretty
tough on all of us over the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
So yeah, we all need a little break, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
So we will have a lot of that for you
guys in October. We got a lot of great episodes
coming and like I said, if you are listening, go
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Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
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