Portland Riots & Protest | Trump Designates Antifa as Terrorist

Protests exploded in Portland this weekend outside the ICE facility, while tensions flared in Chicago — scenes that felt more like déjà vu than coincidence. Are these spontaneous uprisings, or signs of something coordinated and much bigger happening beneath the surface? Tonight, Chad and Sheri break down the footage, the players, and the hidden forces driving America’s growing unrest.

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Through a disturpin. Start up, Come on, Start up the ride. Hello,
and welcome to Investigator with Podcast. I'm your host, Chad
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, it's been
a wild weekend in Portland as protests heated up outside

(01:03):
of the ice facility, Chaos, smoke, and clashes with police
once again lighting up the streets. And it didn't stop there.
Chicago saw its own wave of unrest, adding to a
growing sense that something bigger is coming across the country.
So now we're going to break it all down, what
sparked it, who's behind it, and what these protests could
really mean for where we are headed next. Guys, welcome
to the show. It is October the fifth, twenty twenty five.

(01:25):
The name of this song is Riot by Blood Red Sun,
And yet again we have to play this song at
the beginning of a show because I don't know how
many times we played this over the past, I don't know,
five or six years at least, where there were riots,
there were protests, there were cities being burnt down, whether
it's Sanifa or Black Lives Matter or something else, it

(01:47):
seems like America is dealing with this on a regular
basis now and now that Trump is back in office,
and what he actually campaigned for, which was that when
I get in office, we are going to use ICE
for what they are actually for, which is to deport
a legal immigrants in our country. We're going to actually
let them do their jobs. Well, now we're starting to

(02:09):
get protests all around the ICE facilities pretty much all
across the country, and especially in places like Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago,
you name it, to the point where Donald Trump is
now saying, look, we're gonna have to send in National Guard,
and it's not even necessarily for the crowd control aspect,
but it's really to protect our ICE agents to let

(02:31):
them do their job. Because a lot of people are saying, well,
this is you know, this is martial law. This is
Trump trying to bring in the military into cities across
the country to usher in martial law. But let me
explain why Trump is wanting to bring in National Guard
into the places where they are having heavy ICE presence,
places that are sanctuary cities. It is because ICE cannot

(02:54):
do their jobs when they're having to try to protect
themselves from these Antifa psychos. So how are they supposed
to do their jobs? Now? Should we depend on Portland
Police to protect ICE and to make sure the Antifa
or whoever, the crazy lunatics, you know, the same type
of people that shot Charlie Kirk. Should we just depend
on Portland police to do that, because I don't think so.

(03:18):
If you look at the latest lawsuit the City of Portland,
including Portland Police sergeant that is suing the Trump administration saying, hey,
you know what, if you are on the right, or
you're a reporter and you're in Portland and you get
hit in the face or you get attacked, it's your
own fault. It's not a tifa's fault. It is your
own fault. And so what we're calling right now officially

(03:39):
Portland Police, we are calling them Antifa police because they're
there to protect Antifa, not there to protect citizens, and
not there at all to help the federal government. So
on this episode, we're going to talk about number one,
what's been going on over the past weekend. Jerry and
I had plenty of time over the past few days
to watch all the live streams in Portland, some of

(03:59):
the live stream in Chicago. And it's because we got
the cat flu. And I know that literally, I know
that sounds nute. It sounds batshit crazy or cat shit crazy.
I don't know what it is. But our cats got
sick like a week ago, like the first one got sick,
and then another one got sick, and then the third
one is still sick right now. And like a few

(04:20):
days ago, I was like, you know what, I got
to go check on Bobby. That's one of our cats.
He's black and white cat. He's the sweetest cat ever.
And I one checked on him, petting his little head.
It was like, I don't know, eight o'clock at night,
and I was I kind of had my face kind
of towards his face. I was like, Bobby, you okay, whatever,
And then like a couple of days later, I wake
up with the same sickness that they have, and I'm like,

(04:41):
there's no way I got sick from cats. And then
I was like I got to ask, AI, can you
get sick from cats?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
And the reason why we think it's just cats is
because we really haven't been anywhere.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, it went like last Friday. Yeah, we haven't been
a lot of places for sure. I mean there's some
place we've been, but you know, but for the most part, no,
I don't think we got sick from outside sources. Is weird.
But then I looked it up on AI and it says, yeah,
you can get sick from cats, and there's a specific
cat sickness is going around I guess over the past
couple of years that is transmitting to people. So it

(05:11):
is a zoonotic virus that people are able to actually
catch from their cats. And so like, we literally have
a cat right now that's coffin sneezing. It sounds like
he's a freaking adult human that is sick with some
type of bronchitis. And so I got sick and I
used nasal spray. Luckily it did not last very long.
Shry got sick this morning. So anyways, we had plenty

(05:32):
of time to watch the live videos of the protests
in Portland and Chicago, and there's a lot of stuff
I want to say about this tonight, because there's two
sides of this story. You obviously are going to have
people on the right that are saying, hell, yeah, you know,
crush heads, or you know, go out there and just
do whatever you gotta do. You know, let's lock these

(05:54):
fools up, Let's put them behind bars forever, throw away
the key, let's completely take away their freedom of speech.
I don't care if they are who, I don't care
if they're American citizens. We got to take away everything
from them. And then there's you know, there's also the
people that are like, hey, you know what, you know,
they're protesting. You have a right in America to protest,
but there is a line. Right you can protest, but

(06:15):
there is a line to your protesting when it becomes violent,
when it becomes that you are assaulting police officers, when
all this stuff happens, you're blocking roadways, you're not allowing
people to go to their homes. Or if you're protesting
and blowing up fireworks and and doing all this crazy
shit around apartment buildings, which is literally right across the
street from the ice facility in Portland, then there's a

(06:37):
difference in free speech and riots and inciting violence. Okay,
so there's a huge difference. But there are definitely two
sides of this story, and so I want to talk
about those tonight because I've been thinking about this a lot,
right we I'll be honest, guys and girls, we have
had so much stuff go on, like literally over the

(06:58):
past month or two. I remember on this podcast probably
before pre two months ago, for a couple of months,
there was just not a lot going on, and I
told ser was like, man, there's just not a lot
of news. There's not a lot, Like there's not a
lot of stuff to talk about. I know some people
are always like, we don't want to hear about politics.
We don't want to hear about that. You know, we

(07:20):
want like the ghost stuff, the UFO stuff, we want
all that. But and that's fine, right when when the
stuff that's very important isn't happening that will likely affect
our lives in some way, shape or form. And what's
going on right now with Trump's movement, the mass movement
of ICE officials and officers in major cities, when he
is saying that, you know, number one, we're designating in

(07:43):
TIFA as a terrorist organization, and then also when he's
saying we're going to bring in national guard and maybe
even active duty military in some of these places. This
is when things that you know, you know, look UFOs
and ghosts and all this stuff is very important. But
we also I think this is very important to talk
about because it could go bad on both ways. Right.
I understand that we have to have law and order

(08:05):
in this country one hundred percent. We have to make
sure that there are not little assholes from Antifa that
are blocking city streets, that are assaulting law enforcement officers
and journalists and getting away with it. And at the
same time, where the city these woke sanctuary cities like Portland,
where they are commanding their law enforcement no matter what,

(08:25):
to stand down, stand down, do not arrest anybody Antifa
especially that assaults people or law enforcement or whatever, do
not do anything to them. But if you do see
anyone from the right or journalists or any of that
stuff that gets involved in some type of scrap, arrest
them first. And that just happened to Nicks Order. Nick
Sorda is a huge name on x He is definitely

(08:47):
a conservative influencer. I guess you can say he is.
I've talked to Nick quite a few times, one of
the nicest guys you'll ever talk to. And Nick Sorder
a couple of days ago was in Portland where Antifa
decided that they wanted to surround him, and they wanted
to start pushing on him and threatening his life and
pushing him into bushes. And when he defended himself in

(09:10):
the least little bit of way, he decided, you know what,
I'm going to go and stand next to Portland Police
because maybe that's the safest place, right you think, like,
you go to police if you want to make sure
that you're safe. And yet what happened, well, they arrested Nick.
They didn't arrest anybody that was actually surrounding him, threatening
him or hitting him. They arrested Nicksorder, and now Nick

(09:30):
Sorder is up on arraignment charges for disorderly conduct as
of tomorrow. So you have Portland Police, which are protecting antifa.
They are protecting the left wing what they call themselves
anti fascist, although I believe they are fascist, that they're
literally they're literally promoting anti fascism, but yet they are

(09:51):
fascist themselves. And then you have this whole other layer
of the Trump administration, which is it's almost like there's
about to be a battle in these cities. You know,
these Trump has it out. You know, he's like, look,
I'm sick of these sanctuary cities, These woke ideological mayors
like Portland's mayor. For example, she was walking in one

(10:12):
of the protest parades in Portland just a couple of
days ago, and she's she's a big LGBTQ plus you
know advocate.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, she herself walking with her wife. I believe it
was her wife or her friend. They were hand in hand.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, someone came up to her
and asked a question and of course she's like, no,
I'm not answering anything. You can talk to whoever if
you want to know that. And then Portland decided that
they're going to sue the Trump administration for trying to
bring in law and order into Portland. And it's not
even just law and order, it's just to say that look,
number one, we have to protect our ice agents that
are doing their job around the Ice facility, which is

(10:47):
where these protests have been. And so we're going to
have to likely send in National Guard. And it's only
because your police officers cannot do the job that they're
supposed to do. So how else are we supposed to
do this besides sending in the National Guard to do
the job the police are not doing.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And I want to reiterate that the police cannot do
their job. It's not that they're not willing to do
their job. I think that if they had a willingness
and an ableness to go out and arrest all these
people that are standing in the streets or you know,
causing all this torment, they would arrest them. But they
have been charged to stand down. They're not allowed to

(11:23):
arrest anyone that is Antifa. Absolutely, you know that's there's
a whole another rabbit hole going on against that. Like
they could have easily arrested many, many, many members of Antifa,
and they had to let them go and let them
walk away.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, there's even scanner traffic that will let you hear
some of the standown orders, especially the police chief or
or not even a police chief, like the captain of
patrols and all this stuff. They're saying, look, you do
not help in any way, shape or form. There has
been multiple violent crimes that have taken place in Portland
to where on scanner traffic they you can hear this says,

(11:59):
stand down, do not do anything, let them go. Same
thing is also happening in Chicago. So this is in
some way some people arekin it insurrection right against the
government of the United States. For the government, it's literally
cities and states that are trying to upend government operations
by trying to deport and use ICE for what they're

(12:20):
actually supposed to be there for, which is to enforce
immigration laws. Well, the states and the cities, and they're
using their own police forces to try to upend this.
They're trying to get in the way and in between
federal agents and their jobs and their duties. And that alone,
by the way, guys, I don't know if anybody's ever
thought about this, but that alone could turn into something
very bad if it doesn't change very quickly. So what

(12:42):
we do know is that Portland has sued the Trump
administration I think also the Department of Justice in ICE.
By saying that you are not allowed is essentially what
they're saying to bring in National Guard. You're not allowed
to do your job what you're supposed to do as
ICE agents, or you're also not allowed to send the
National Guard to upend or supersede our local law enforcement.

(13:06):
The problem with this is, and what Sherry was saying
is I'm not saying that all police officers there don't
want to do their job, But there are definitely some
that are willingly not doing their job, and they are
forcefully not doing their job. Such for example, there was
a police officer there was a woman driving down the
road because it is a road that she goes to

(13:28):
her house normally on Antifa surrounded her. So what happened, Well,
instead of police opening the way up in this road
to allow the vehicle through to where she normally travels,
they instead make her roll her window down and yell
and scream at her and say, if you do not
turn your vehicle around, you will be arrested right now

(13:48):
on site. And this lady's like, why am I going
to be arrested when I'm literally traveling on a public
highway going to my house, which I've always done, and
now all of a sudden, I'm not allowed to do
that because they're blocking the roadway, which is a late
And then so they're screaming and except they're saying, I'm
just telling you're going to be arrested. So there are
some officers that are just dickheads, They are assholes, and

(14:09):
they are just a much a part of this system.
And you got to keep in mind too, when you
have mayors like you have in Portland, and you have,
and then you put in office and empower chiefs and
sergeants and everybody else positions of power in these law
enforcement agencies. They're also going to be woke. These are
the people that you're looking for. Likely they have far

(14:30):
less experience than someone they could have hired, but instead
they're doing the DEI thing, which is to say, hey, look,
let's make sure we have achieved it's like pro LGBTQ
plus pro Antifa, pro pro anti Trump. Let's let's then
put in sergeants that are also for our entire goal.
They're kind of almost like creating a a another army

(14:52):
in their cities against the federal government. And so how
far is this going to go? Because you know, the
federal government eventually is going to look at some of
these deport gartments that are literally hiring people that are
intentionally going against the federal government's operations. How far is
the federal government going to go until the federal agents
are going to start clashing with local law enforcement? And

(15:12):
then if you want to see a civil war start
breaking out, that's a very bad thing, and that can
happen very easily, especially where we're at right now.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
But I think during the weekend I did see them
working together as a team somewhat very very very rare.
That situation you were talking about with the lady in
the car, though, she wasn't just screaming back at them.
She was in tears. She was crying, she was scared.
Her whole car was covered with Antifa people and they
are all like knocking on her windows and stuff. She

(15:41):
couldn't get by. She was literally in tears, scared to death.
And I just put myself in her shoes. If I
were trying to get down the street, Well, number one,
what if that's the only way you can get down
the street. If I could go away, you know, go around,
and it took me in extra thirty minutes, I'd probably
do that just to avoid that area. But let's just
say you have to go through that area. Put yourself

(16:03):
in her shoes. How scary would that be? Having all
these people in black with big gas masks, gas macs
on their face and yelling and screaming at you in
the window because you're trying.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
To get home. And oftentimes, by the way, a lot
of these people will break your windows with their flags
or their poles or whatever the case is, they do
all this crazy shit. And we saw this during the
Black Lives Matter riots. We saw this during the Antiva
riots over the past eight years, to where there would
be people that would try to drive home through some
of these protests that would randomly pop up across city streets,
and some of these people, and especially during the Black

(16:37):
Lives Matter movement, a lot of white people would be
pulled out of their vehicles and beaten damn near to death. Yeah,
and guess what, did anybody get charged with a lot
of stuff? No, typically not, because they would always protect
these pieces of shit.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
So well, and that's the case too with what's going
on in Portland. There was a lady and I know
you're probably going to show a video about that, but
this lady literally got hit right below her eye with
a flagpole with an Antifa member, and she had it
on camera. She followed them, She called nine to one one,
She followed them, She showed the cops where they were.

(17:11):
The cops were right behind the people. No, they actually
did follow the people, but then just let them go.
He's like, well, no, we're waiting for other police to
show up.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yes, well let them go. Yeah, it's all. It's all facade, right.
The local police they want to pretend like they're doing something,
but they're never actually doing anything. You know, for example,
when they actually when Antifa blocked the main street that
went down from you know, like from the main highway
into where the ice facility area was where these protests
were going on, well on, Tifa decided they were going

(17:41):
to block the entire road right, so there are people, houses, apartments,
there are neighborhood intrances from this area. They blocked the
entire intersection. If you pan the camera to the right,
you would see like twelve Portland Police officers that were
just sitting on the side of the corner, mostly on bikes,
and they were not there to stop the Antifa members

(18:01):
from blocking the roadways. What they were there to actually
do is to make sure that no one interfered with
Antifa blocking the roadways. Portland Police is one hundred percent
pro Antifa. Well, they want to allow Antifa to do
what the hell they want to do, and they want
to make sure that anyone that tries to negate that
or get in the face of Antifa, they are going
to be the people that are arrested.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Those people on the corner of the cops that don't
do anything eyes on, Yeah, that are supposed to just
like talk to the people and try to chill them
out or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, And so this whole thing, it is, went
off through ills and Nick sorder As I said earlier,
Nick Sorda is a great guy, a journalist. He's someone
that said, Hey, you know what, I want to go
to Portland now, I want to report on this. I
want to see what's actually going on in Portland. And
so he went, he got surrounded and he got arrested,
and this was his report. He went and talked to

(18:51):
the Fox News reporter and this is what he had
to say.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Here, you go, tell us what happened exactly.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
And it's it's it's the entire day has been crazy.
I mean it's still the same day as yesterday for
me because I've been up all night because I was
stuffed in a jail, and the jail here in Portland
weirdly empty because they don't actually arrest criminals around here,
just people like me that you know, report on what's
actually going on on the ground out here. I am
next to the ice facility, I'm on federal property right now,

(19:21):
and Portland. The police won't dare step foot on federal property,
as we know. But you know, Joey, we know that
these Antifa thugs hate to be filmed in general. They
hate it even more when you film them while they're
screaming and crying because they were just maced, because they
after around and found out by pushing federal agents. You know,

(19:42):
they're not as tough as they want you to believe
that they are. And so you know, the last thing
they want is for you, for somebody like me to
film them while they're crying with mason their eyes. So
unfortunately for them, I have a First Amendment right as
an American citizen. I can film them in public on
the sidewalk and there's nothing they can do about it.
So that's why they broke down. I wouldn't go away.

(20:05):
I wouldn't stop filming them, and so they got violent
and aggressive and they started punching me. They started they
broke my camera, and somehow that's criminal on my part.
I haven't figured that part out yet.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
You know, Nikolausban made about the fact that you were
kind of reporting on the police not responding.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
There were running American.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Flags getting I don't know antsy, I guess you're just
reporting on the police and kind of what you would
say is not being lax about it. Then all of
a sudden you get arrested. Now, I know there's a
tussle there, and if we watch football, it's a guy
that shoves last that gets the flag called on them.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
What is your perspective on this?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Do you think that the police knew who you were
arrested you because of it or do you think that
you were just the last one kind of swinging there
and that's why they grabbed you.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Well, considering the fact that they don't arrest anybody here ever,
especially you know Denink you saw Katie Davis with that
that black eye that she got. You know, the police
followed the assailant and did nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
They just let them go.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Right now, all of a sudden they change it when
when I am a conservative journalist is on the ground,
you know, exposing what's actually going on. Is that just
a coincidence? How did that just happen all of a sudden?
I mean, it's uh, I don't really think it is
a coincidence, unfortunately, Joey. But you know, because I was
I didn't have very uh glowing reviews for them on

(21:27):
Waters show last night when I was here and it
took them over an hour to figure out what the
charge was. They arrested me, they put me in the
back of the police car, we parked on the side
of the road for a while, and then after about
an hour they're like, okay, yeah, we'll charge them with
disorderly conduct. So, which is if what I was doing
is disorderly? What do you call people with megaphones at

(21:49):
three o'clock in the morning lighting fires in the middle
of the street.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
What did you notice?

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Did you notice when the police got there were the protesters?
Were they pointing their at all police at the local
police as well, or do they keep it on Ice,
Like did you see any top of I don't know
if it's relationship or did the protesters say, oh, they're
on our side, let's keep it pushing towards Ice or
to describe some of that to us.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Yeah, so they really don't seem to have any ill
will toward the Portland police. But why would they. The
Portland police have been running cover for them for years now.
It's like they're in the pocket of Antifa. You know,
when you've got these you know, Bill Malugin. He was
here for a few days as well, talking to these liaisons,

(22:32):
and they have these liaisons.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I want to stop here for a second because he's
making good points here, and I want to this is
probably the biggest point that we have to try to
figure out with what's going on. You have federal agents,
you have ICE, you have Homeland Security, you have likely
National Guard that's going to come in. Antifa is mostly
out against these people, and it almost seems as if

(22:56):
that the Portland police are their protectors. And we've already
talked a little bit about this, but this is in
some ways maybe leading to an insurrection. You know, you
think about like the word insurrection. You think about what
they used in January sixth to say all the people
that stormed the capital was insurrection. Well, insurrection usually is

(23:16):
some way or some some some facet of how you're
going to overthrow a government. Right, you're going to overthrow
a sitting president, or you're going to overthrow agents, or
you're going to use state powers to be able to
do that and open Society Foundation George Soros, these types
of people have been trying to figure out a way

(23:37):
to overthrow the United States government for a very long time.
They want to upend our sovereignty, They want to upend
everything that the United States has stood for for so
very long, and they want to erode our constitution. And
so they're doing it in any way they possibly can.
So what I think they're starting to do. And if
you go back just for a second, I want to

(23:58):
go down this little rabbit hole with you guys for minute,
just to think about how this is all being laid out.
This didn't just start yesterday. It didn't start last weekend.
It didn't start six months ago. If you think back
to when during the Biden Harris administration, and then also
think back to the Obama administration Ferguson Missouri. But you

(24:18):
started thinking about when George Soros and the Open Society
Foundation really started funding heavily funding these prosecutors in major
cities like Los Angeles, like George gascon for example, that
when Los Angeles was burning down, when all these riots
were happening in Los Angeles, and they created a system
with prosecutors that said, look, we're not going to actually

(24:40):
prosecute crimes anymore. We're going to let people go. We're
going to give a message to the criminals that you
can do basically whatever the hell you want to do. Well.
That was the first process of you know, the same
thing George Soros has done for so many years, which
you know, the Open Saudi Foundation is one thing. But
George Soros has funded coups in other countries for years.

(25:05):
We're talking about in Africa, we're talking about in South America.
I think that he is heavily also funding the UK uprising.
I'm not saying the uprising of the actual people in
the United Kingdom. I'm talking about the uprising and the
mass immigration that is coming across the borders. Most of
them are Muslim, most of them are one to force

(25:26):
on the people of Britain and of the UK of
Sharia law. But when you see this shit, this is
all funded by people like George Soros. And so this
has started many years ago where they started putting in
place prosecutors and major cities, they started doing this sanctuary
city shit, and then they installed a president like Joe

(25:48):
Biden to where they would allow a border to be
wide open that nobody or nothing could do anything about
during the time it was happening, including the agents that
were That's literally why they went to work for ice
and for the border patrol was to stop a border invasion,
and yet their hands were tied. They were not allowed
to talk on camera, they were not allowed to ask

(26:09):
or to answer any questions by media. They were silenced.
And many of them quit, many of them, you know.
And so as they would quit, the Biden administration would
then put in new border agents that would be pro immigration,
they'd be pro illegal immigrants. So that was another part
of the process. And then they started installing judges across

(26:32):
the country. We saw this with Donald Trump when he
was getting charged with every freaking thing under the sun.
They started and we're still seeing this. By the way,
you have judges that are getting involved in the US
government's role in protecting their own people from domestic terrorists,
which I do believe people like Antifa are domestic terrorists.

(26:53):
But now you have judges that are making rulings based
on their own ideologies, based on law, but based on
their ideologies to where they're saying, look, you know what,
we're gonna stop this, We're gonna make sure this is happening.
This is all from outside sources, this is all from
outside funding, and this is all from the New World Order.
So when we're seeing the Portland police that are protecting Antifa.

(27:15):
This is just a very This is kind of the
outset of what's already been going on for years. It
has been this that they have installed people in our
police in these major cities. They put mayors in charge,
they put prosecutors in charge. Look at the military, for example,
I mean for Pete Hegseth, the Department of War or
the Secretary of War they call it. Now he has

(27:37):
a big job on his hands because now he has
to somehow purge all of the people that the left
that the Biden Hairris administration, the deep State, and the
Open Society Foundation put in power. And I'm talking about
in major positions of power in our military. You have
to figure out who the hell all those people are
and you got to now get them out the same

(27:57):
way that the Biden Harris administration had to figure out
how to get people out of the military that were
maybe more conservative. How'd they do that, Well, that was
the vaccine mandate. That was one of the ways they
figured it out. And then they started going through these
military members, telegram channels, text messaging apps, you name it.

(28:18):
They started figuring out who was pro Trump who is
pro MAGA, and they would figure out ways to get
them the hell out of the military. We lost more
soldiers during the Biden Harris administration that were patriots of
America that were yes more conservative than left, that were
ready to defend our freedom as American or as America.
They got rid of most of those people. And so

(28:41):
now p hexcess job is to figure out how to
build that shit back, get out the people that the
deep state and the globalists put in power in our
own military. That's a huge job. But the problem is
right now is that these sanctuary cities they have done
the exact same thing, just on a lower level. They've
done it in local police departments. They've done it in

(29:02):
all of this. That's why in Aurora, Colorado, for example,
when you had the trender Raga gang that was taken
over apartment buildings, and I've found it also very interesting.
You remember during this time that they had an interim
chief of police and Aurora of Police she was LGBTQ chick,
I think as well. So you had this interim chief,

(29:23):
you had city council members that were going to these
apartment buildings and saying trendy Aragua has taken over these
apartment buildings. There was mass evidence everywhere that they were
doing this, and yet the messaging out from Aurora and
out from Colorado and out from the state government, and
everybody was like, you are all crazy, your conservatives, your liars,

(29:45):
you're saying shit, this is not happening. And now it's
very apparent that that was happening. And this is all
a thing that they want to try to delay as
much as possible for the federal government or for someone
to do something about it long enough to build up
all of these cartel members, all of these gangs from
other countries. These gangs need time to build up their

(30:07):
infrastructure inside of the United States.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, and that's what I was going to ask you,
because this has not really hit mainstream media until now.
But these protests have been going on for one hundred
days in Partland, every night, Like I have watched them
interview people, and they've been there for one hundred nights
every night protesting.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well, I think the Trump administration is probably likely pushing
a lot of this stuff. They're going to make waves
in these places because they want mainstream media to really
take account of this, because they're going to benefit off
of more people showing up, and you know.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
That's exactly what happened this weekend. There are more pro
patriots than I think there were Antifa.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, but they're also going to benefit on the Antifa
side that shows up, because it's going to look like
their mission is more foundational than you know what the
mainstream media has been saying for years, Antifa is not
a thing, it's not an organization, it's not none of
this stuff. But the reality is that it benefits of
Trump administration and everything. When when mainstream media gets on
this and they just cover it non stop, this helps

(31:09):
the Trump administration as well because there's going to be
a lot of normal people that are like, we're sick
of this bullshit, Like, get these damn people out of
the streets. I don't give a shit. Who you got
to send in ice, you know, active duty military, We
don't care. Yeah, it absolutely does. So we'll play a
little more of what Nick Sorter says, and then we
got a lot more to talk about because is this
a good thing? You know, could the government and I'm

(31:32):
not even saying the right or left, but could the
government use this as a way to silence all.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Of us on officers that they station around here. They
are supposed to only intervene in cases of imminent death. Right,
So if you're getting beaten the street until you're you know,
unconscious and bleeding out, they're not going to step in.
I mean they'll tell you that if you ask them.

(31:57):
And so the Antifa people have gotten used to it
where there is no action from Portland police. So yeah,
they feel like they're on the same side.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
At this point.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
And especially you know, you should. You should have heard
the cheers from the crowd when I was arrested.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, they loved that.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Are you out there alone and unafraid?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Actually?

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think we got a video real quick if you
pull in the American flag. If we have that, I'd
like to play it. And uh yeah, let's play that
real quick.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
We got a Trump support, we got a Tump supported
on you. She's putting it on the ground and he's
making it worse. We're standing on money, okay.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
So it looks like one of the flying monkeys from
Wizard of Oz was trying to tell you that you
made it worse. Were there any other counter protesters out there?
Are you the only person there with common sense that
cares about the American flag that understands that ICE has
a job to do. I mean, were you there alone
and unafraid.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
In that.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So?

Speaker 6 (32:58):
I definitely wasn't. I wasn't there a there were some
counter protesters, but in terms of you know, I mean,
I'm built a little bit differently, right, I was willing
to run into that and grab that flag, put that
fire out. And I still I actually have.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That flag now.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
It's in the back of my car. I posted a
photo of Actually Bill Malusa took a photo of me
with it earlier in front of the ICE facility, and
I still have it. I'm going to bring it home
with me and I'll, you know, cherish it the way
that it should be cherished.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
These people they.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Hate our country, they hate our flag, they hate everything
that we're about. I'm telling you right now, Joey, this
place doesn't feel like the United States of America anymore.
It feels like a third world communist country. And that's
the way that the government out here treats the citizens
as well. I mean, people like me are not welcome
here by the government. They literally threw me in jail.

(33:49):
They tried, they want to intimidate us into shutting up
and going away and not coming here because you know,
it's pretty obvious to the American people when you showed
what's actually going on here on the ground. This is
like a ninety ten issue.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, and so there's Nick Order. By the way, Nick's order.
Good job, bro a good job going out there and
taking a burning flag from one of these Antifa assholes
and putting out he said he has the flag now.
But guys, this is what we are dealing with. And
listen our podcast, and I say this all the time.
Sheary and I have gotten many debates about Israel or whatever,

(34:26):
but we've also talked a lot about our government. I mean,
a lot of conspiracies that we talked about and we
have talked about for years is usually surrounded by the
corruption of our government. And so I think, as a
patriot of the United States of America, what we all
want is for the betterment of our government for our people.
We want the best that our government can possibly do

(34:49):
for us.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
The government is there to work for us, and it's
not there to work for ideologies. It's not there to
work for outside assets such as George Soros an Open
Sieti Foundation. It's not there to work for any of those,
including foreign nations, including in Ukraine, including Israel, including any
of those people. We have to put our people first.
Number one. If you're a patriot of America, you are

(35:12):
here for America. You're not here for anyone else. And unfortunately,
Antifa and these thugs are not here for America. They
are here for lawlessness. They are here for communism, they
are here for socialism. They here for all the things
that have destroyed so many nations and so many countries
around the world throughout history. That's what they want, and

(35:33):
it's not even necessarily what they want, because if you
actually ask a lot of these antifa thugs what their
actual goals are or what they want to accomplish with
what they're trying to portray the messaging of whether it's
to anti fascism or whatever, they're literally saying everything opposite
of what their goal is. I mean, they are the fascist.

(35:54):
They want fascist ideologies and fascist governments. That is literally
what they're protesting. And the same way like on college
campuses where during the Black Lives Matter protest where you
would have all these people, and also the anti Israel
protests where you'd have these people showing up to college campuses,
and there would be these booths set up that weren't

(36:14):
for socialist party movements, and all these people would sign
their names and they'd be like, hey, be a socialist,
be a communist, this is a great way to do it.
This is a USSR, you know. And there were a
lot of people flying the USSR flag with the communist flag,
you know, over the past weekend. But this is going
to be a turning point for America. And I don't

(36:35):
know exactly how far it's going to turn, but just
like last night, Sherry, I want to get to this
point next. We watched the live stream last night. We
watched the night before. There were these Antifa thugs that
were making these gestures to some of the right wing
people that showed up, and they were making gestures like
blood spewing from the neck, and they were saying it

(36:57):
towards Charlie can.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Because a lot of these patriots were wearing shirts were white.
It seems like the patri had the shirt that said
freedom on them.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, Charlie kirkshirts. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
And it was interesting because the people that are on
the right of government were on the right side of
the street and the people that were left of the
left government were on the left side, and then the
media is kind of right behind them.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah yeah, and then the media hides out. Yeah, and
then they intermingle in the streets. Yeah. But there were
these antiva thugs that shows up and they're doing these
blood these blood things, these symbols on their neck and
saying yeah, f Charlie Kirk and he's a demon and
he's Satan and all this shit. I want to play
this music video which I found last night. We're going
to listen to it together. And and and the reason

(37:41):
why we're going to listen to it together because I
want everybody that that is that has listened to our podcast,
I want you to go and support this guy. The
reason why I want you to go support this guy
and we're going to play this music in this entirety
is because what our next segment of this podcast is
going to talk about is something that he says at
a very this song, which you have to also think about.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
With all that it makes everything makes sense.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yes, But Sampson his name is Sam so In, So
Sam so In if you go look him up on YouTube.
He is an artist. He has done tons of music videos.
He's a rapper, but he's done amazing videos. He's talked
about Nancy Pelosi, He's talked about corruption, he talks about stuff,

(38:26):
and I believe, honestly, I think he's better than Tom
McDonald for those that know Tom McDonald is, I think
Sampson is better at being a lyricist than Tom McDonald is.
But I want to play his latest video. It's only
got eighty three thousand views in two days, which is
surprising to me that this has not got millions of
views already. I want you, guys to go to Sampson's

(38:48):
channel and I want you to say, hey, I heard
your song, and invest to get Earth or whatever. But
share this video when you go to a channel to
everybody you know and go subscribe to him, go support him,
because we need our like this that is trying their
very best to put this on place. And he talks
about Charlie Kirk and the name of the song is
Tipping Point, and so we're gonna play that now for

(39:10):
you guys, innocentirety.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Here you go, HU rest in peace to Charlie Kirk
and bless his family. I know the Devil's hard at work.
I can't even fathom all the grief and pain that

(39:32):
y'all have went through. My thoughts are nearly impossible to explain,
but I'll attempt to. I've already written like five intros,
so many wasted paragraphs and revised pinstrokes. There's just so
many things I want to say, and I don't want
to say you're wrong. I don't know how many times
I almost threw away this song, but I feel an obligation.
I have a platform if people want my observation. This

(39:53):
one is complicated. I go back and forth on it.
The facts are distorted so much.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
I'm half and half.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I'm torn on it, trying to the scope of this,
and so I'm asking if there's more to it, reading
way too much and end up actually just warping it.
Too many voices, echoing, reporting everything. How you supposed to
comb through all these different.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Passages and sort it.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
There's so much information out that it can make you
feel like you don't know what's fake or real. Way
too many Facebook reals shit. It's almost like it's done
on purpose, just to make us taste our tales. I
wish someone would wake me up and offer me those
Patriots pills so I could see through all the tents
in the facade, but I can't, so.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
I feel like God should give.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
This up to God because it's a lot, and I
could use some guidance because I'm struggling. I got two
different sides that affer inside of me, just tugging my
heart tells me. Fuck these nasty individuals so despicable, fucking trash.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I bet they're miserable.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Couldn't last in the debate, so they had to get physical,
got smashed verbally, so they resorted back to trigger pulls.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
All he did was talk.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
He debated, that was all.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Never held the position and officer made in the laws.
He created an organization to display his faith. He sat
right in front of your face and had conversations with y'all.
He spoke, never suspended your rights, never signed a single
fucking bill that affected your life. What exactly did he
do that directly impacted you? Instead of saying the couple
of sentences that you disliked, y'all, took a couple quotes

(41:11):
out of their context and flipped it, cut out the
important parts and conveniently left of missing And even then
it still didn't sound that aggressive.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
If you thought that was radical, then we got different definitions,
and you go and compare them to George Floyd because
he was a father toio fucking old boy. What a
wild thing to say, y'all, don't gotta even explain. It's
two way different things. This shit is not even the same.
You can't trust someone that you don't personally know. So
I could never say for sure that Charlie Kirk would

(41:39):
be my pro But if I were to go off
of reputation alone, I would never fucking let George Floyden's.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
To my home.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
And it's got nothing to do with his race of
riskin complexion. Now it's more to do with his lengthy
criminal record. Yeah, it's more because the drug possessions and
the robberies and home invasions. I would trust the less
around my property. We shouldn't make a mockery of him.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I acknowledge that just.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Because he was a criminal, we shouldn't pile on that.
I won't say I'm glad that he's dead or claim
he deserved it, But don't act like for one second
that this was the same person. Just check out the
reactions to their debts quite the opposite.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Look what y'all did, and.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
Look at our response to it.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Instead of riots in the streets, we prayed quietly in peace.
We never let our emotions go. We tied them to
a leash. We never flipped and flew off the handle
and got shitty and left the town crawl in with
vandals and cops.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Fitting shit was pretty.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
What we saw on the channels was not pretty. The
only thing we burned was candles.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Not cities.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
So get the fuck out on my face. With all
these comparisons, y'all are embarrassing. If we can't even call
you Americans. You follow the with narrative. It's such a
typical situation. The minute something changes, these liber will switch
their places. There's something wrong with.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
You with you celebrated his death.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
You say the right is full of spite, but there's
hell of hate on the left.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
It's almost like this shit melted away your stress. I
never saw somebody die and then felt.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Delated or blessed. But it makes sense. Your party's been
stirring the shit.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Countless videos of politicians encouraging this. See they rile up
their base until they pile up their hatred and now
hook all of a sudden, gun violence is their favorite.
The minute Jimmy Kimmel got pulled from the air at night.
The First Amendment became the left most sacred cherist right now,
no one should be punished for their words. It's so
important you're right. Imagine being murdered for it, you know.

(43:21):
I feel like my music has been pretty moderate. I
never mean too hard in one direction or the opposite. Yes,
obvious that I'm conservative, but watch my shit. I think
I do a pretty good job at keeping my common sense.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Lately, I've been given less of a fuck. I got
a headache.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm so fed up with the Left and their stunts
from the messages they pump a bunch of pedals, pedal
and junk. I used to separate you, Now I just
think everyone sucks. I'll never be friends with you now.
Fuck it, dog, I'm serious. How the fuck can you
relate to somebody who cheers for this? Y'all are weird
for this. I'm done salvaging relationships. I ain't picking up
broken pieces off the ground and saving it. If you

(43:56):
can't say that this is bad and this degree its heinous,
and I don't if a fuck if you wouldn't follow
me your hate this, it sucks. This ship has done
massive amounts of damage and you know it's probably exactly
how they planned it.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Boom Wow, Samson, amazing job. This dude is I believe
one of the best rappers on YouTube period. I think
he's better than Tom McDonald. I think he's better than
all of those. And there's something that Samson does very
well in this in this in this song, is he
betrays the anger, the anger in a way that is

(44:29):
like methodical, in a in in the way that maybe
a lot of us have thought about this. And you know,
for for there's a lot of people probably is like,
oh my god, he cursed you know what. You got
to get over that ship. Because I will tell you this,
in this day and age, with the world that we
live in and the people that celebrated Charlie Kirk's death,

(44:50):
the people that were elated by it, just like he says,
you know, and we've we've done this as well, Sharon,
like to where we've had friends that you know, the
most obvious things that were bad for the country or
the most obvious things that were bad for people, and
they wanted to celebrate this stuff, and we tried to
maintain friendships or connections relationships. It's like, at what point

(45:14):
do you just not give a damn anymore about these people?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Right?

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And well, you think about like my friends example, they
all live in Colorado and they are definitely all leaning left,
major left, and I don't have anything in agreement with them,
But how do I become and stay friends, not become,
but stay friends with people like that that we don't
need to We disagree so hard on this subject.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Now you don't need to do that.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Well, I do try to maintain friendships. So now I
just kind of stay out of the political things. And
if they post something about their children or you know,
things that are going on good in their life, somebody's
getting married or whatever, I'll like it and I just
scroll past the negativity.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah. Well, and I think Samson and his name is s. A.
M Son. I guy, Please go and subscribe to this guy.
Get him the most amount of love you possibly can.
Go share this video with every single person that you
can possibly share it to. Go put it on your
social media is. Go do whatever you can because people
like Samson need the support they need for people to

(46:15):
hear this messaging. Because this is the messaging that is true,
This is what people feel right now, This is what
people are pissed off about. And then the very last
part of this song, he says, this is exactly what
they want to want. Yeah, right, they want divide, they
do and and and there there is a lot of divide. Now,
who is at fault for this divide? That's a good question, right,

(46:37):
we We've talked about it many times. But you know,
on the same token is like, how do you respond
to divide? How do you respond to your enemies? So
there's a lot of people also saying that Trump's going
to go pretty hardcore right now. He's going He's he's
sent an IC, he sent in a National Guard. He's
going to go hardcore. He's going to make sure that
like people like Nick Sorter that got arrested are going

(46:58):
to be protected. You know, they're not going to be
the ones that are going to be thrown in jail
because the leftist psychoideology and they're using their Antifa police
to put people like us in jail. And so at
what point do you have to start caring about who's
there for you rather than trying to pick and pull

(47:20):
for every little thing that maybe this could go bad
for us. Now there are two stories of this, right
I mean, because if we're not careful, this could go
bad for us. But then we got to ask ourselves,
do we trust Trump? Do we trust the Trump administration?
And there's been a lot of people that have said, look,
you know, with the Epstein thing and all this stuff,
you know there's been some trust lost. But has it

(47:42):
been lost the same as the Democrats has been lost,
the same as Biden has been lost, the same as Obama.
Hell know, they are the deep state, They are controlled
puppets of the deep State. And although I do think
that there are things that are they're in motion right
now that are coming into Trump's circle, that Trump maybe

(48:03):
doesn't realize that they're trying to use him because he
has the power, he has the control. I do believe that,
I do believe that the deep state and the globalists
are using Trump, and I believe that I hope that
there are people around Trump enough to where they're going
to be smart enough to make sure that he is

(48:24):
not going to go down that hole of a way
to set up complete and utter censorship, of complete and
utter surveillance. Because he has all this control, all this momentum,
all this power, we need Trump and his administration to
work for the people. We need him to fight the

(48:44):
deep state, the same people that came after him. We
need him to understand fully that the same people that
are also in your same rooms at some points, Sam Altman's,
Larry Ellison's, Peter Thiel, all these people, a lot of
these people were not on your side before you got elected,
and now they're all up in your room. They're all

(49:07):
up in your room. They're saying, Oh, we're gonna invest
this amount of money and this amount of money. Trump
and your team, be smart, be smarter. I don't give
a damn about five hundred billion dollars investments or any
of this shit. You have to be smart for the
people right now. The people are the most important. Our
future is the most important. And in this world right now,

(49:27):
I'm very scared, guys. I mean, even with podcasts like
hours like are we even gonna be able to talk
a year from now, depending on how this shit shapes up?
Are we gonna be able to talk three years from now?
We don't know. But we have to make sure that
Trump realizes and understands that the people that are surrounding
him right now that are making major investments are the

(49:48):
people that are also mostly on the deep state's side.
They're not on your side. Yeah, they're gonna give you
this bump in massive revenue for the United States of America.
They're gonna give you these five one hundred billion dollars
plus investments. They're gonna do all these They're gonna say
a lot of shit too. We're not gonna censor, We're
not gonna do all this stuff. They're all lying to
you though, they're lying to you completely, but they're also

(50:12):
going to use you.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Okay, So let's talk about these sanctuary cities, for example,
in these places where we have all these massive protests
where they're going and blocking the ice from doing what
they're doing. What do you think as president in the
United States, Trump should do without making you feel like
it's becoming a military state or a state where it's

(50:36):
going to be all governments around, all people and there's
no free stuff around.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I don't disagree with what Trump's doing so far when
it comes to this, I don't as of right now,
actually don't think if I was president, I don't think
he's doing enough yet to make sure that, like if
you're citizens, you are your number one goal Number one,
keep it in mind, as I just went on that tangent,
your number one priority is is your citizens of America,

(51:02):
nobody else.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
So so what it says if he's going to come
out and bring National Guard and bring military into the States,
that this is the right thing to do, because like
the left are saying, oh, we're going to become a
military state in general if we allow this to happen,
if we allow him to come into each city or
each state where we have protests going on, well listen,

(51:25):
you know, because you go against that a lot chad
freedom of speech, with freedom the protests, all that.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Well, hold on, listen. Let's let's break it all down
for a second. Let's do you have during the Biden
Harris administration. You had wide open borders that had cartel
members trend Air, Wagra. You had Chinese nationalists which are
likely connected to government. You had Iranian nationalists which are
also likely connected IRGC. You have all of these people,

(51:55):
including Russians, including all of these people that are for
what most people believe, our enemies, cartel er enemies to
everyone except for themselves. And so when you have this
happening and unfolding under the Biden Harris administration and then
on top of that, you have foundations like George Soros,
Open Society and other New World Order foundations that are
electing officials inside of the United States to protect these people,

(52:18):
which are basically an army that they are letting into
the United States to invade the United States for America
to then cause chaos and disrupt everything that America's did
for to basically overthrow America. You have an invasion. We
knew we had an invasion over the past four years.
So where does like when do you as a government

(52:42):
get involved? Because you can say, well, we closed a border,
but what do you do about the people that are
already in which we let through the entire time?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
And I'm not even saying just the violent criminals, but
I'm saying anyone that's an illegal immigrant, should they be deported?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yes they should. I mean I hate to say that,
and and and and the reason I say is because
you know, if you go to a lot of countries,
I mean, you know, go being illegal in Russia or
somewhere else, I mean, you're going to be deported. There
are some countries that where you're no, they will imprison
you and do all kinds of shit. Now, as a

(53:21):
Christian as someone who believed in Jesus, right, I believe
that we should care and love for all people. But
also the Bible says that we should also support our president.
Our leaders are our people elected in power, and and
the Bible also talks about that he puts everyone in
place for a reason, including Biden for example. Yeah, so Biden.

(53:44):
So Biden had this massive border invasion that he allowed
to happen. I think it was all leading up to
the new world or to this one world government, which
the Bible talks about, and and there's gonna be battles
and there's gonna be wars. It talks about all this
stuff leading into this one world government system that is
talked about in the Bible. And so is Trump kind

(54:04):
of this this force in America that is trying to
stop this? Is he a stumbling block as the Bible
talks about very often? I think he is. He is
a stumbling block for the New World Order. Does this
mean that the New World Order is never going to
be able to actually fulfill their what their agenda is? No,
it's not, but it is it is slowing them down.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, that's a better word. And it's slowing it down.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
It's slowing it down. But at the same time, like,
would you rather have right now a Democrat in office
that is allowing cities to be burned and and and
for all the stuff to happen. Yeah, And people that say, well,
it's only when Trump's in office that cities are burning,
or it's only when republic Yeah, because they literally incite
and send out these people during the terms of Republicans.

(54:47):
They want to make the Republicans look like they are
the reasons this is the bad thing. But no one
sees that shit like that anymore. So now they're having
to ramp it up. At what point do they start
ramping it up to the point where we have to
they and they feel like they have to try to
overthrow the government. Well, they've already tried to assassinate Trump.
And I say they because I think Thomas Crooks was

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a deep state operative. I think that he was a
useful idiot or the deep state for the New World Order.
He wasn't Iranian, he wasn't connected Iran, whatever Israel wants
to say in all this bullshit. He was a deep
state New World Order operative that was likely funded and
coordinated by foundations and NGOs. That's why he had millions

(55:30):
of dollars of offshore accounts. He had a house that
was scrubbed professionally before law enforcement even got there. It
was like a demo home you had. Whoever killed Charlie Kirk,
which was you know it was it was a bullet
to silence a massive voice. And so some people are like, well,
why would any nation or even deep state or whoever,

(55:51):
whoever it turns out to be, whether it's leftist Antifa
that funds Antiva, which maybe Open Society Foundation, or whether
it's Israel or whoever the hell you blame, or maybe
it's just Tyler Robinson, which I very seriously doubt that
at this point. Actually, to be honest, I very zerously
doubt it's just Tyler Robinson that killed Charlie Kirk. But
just say, there are definitely people out there like Cannis

(56:12):
Owens and Ian Carrol san c Isral. There's not a
lot of people though, that are saying that, like, could
this whole operative and narrative be a NGO, you know,
like an Open Siety Foundation or whatever that has coordinated
this attack Because we still don't know a lot about
Thomas Crooks. We don't know a lot about him. And

(56:34):
there's a reason for that because you know, now Trump's saying,
we are investigating George Soros, We're investigating Open Society Foundation.
We also know that George Soris's son he visited the
White House during the Biden Harris administration fourteen times.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
And he's taking over the whole foundation.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yes, absolutely is. And so what involvement does he have
with the deep state of America? And I always say
this is like, although Trump's in office and p hegxon
thin cash, matel and Pam Bondi and all these people.
First of all, I don't trust Pam bond I know
you don't. No further, I can throw her cash. Hotel
is probably the next on that list of not trustworthy
in my opinion. Dan Bongino is probably somewhere around there.

(57:13):
But I trust Trump the most. But Trump is being
told all this like imagine your grandfather that you go
to eighty something years old, eighty two and you're telling
your grandfather shit, He's going to be like, yeah, well, yeah,
we should do this. Yeah, I think so, you know,
that's kind of the way I think Trump's mind is
right now. He doesn't he don't have a young mind anymore.

(57:34):
Let's just be honest. Trump does not have a young mind.
So he's dependent heavily on the people around him that
are telling them things. And I think and how much
mind hold on, how much influence of the people that
are around him can influence him to certain things.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
I think Trump's mind is based on he wants to
leave a legacy of his people to remember him as
Trump as the greatest president in America, because that's the
type of person he is. He is an arcissist, he is,
and he's all about that and whatever money he can
bring to America, that's what he wants, and he wants

(58:10):
to be known as somebody that stops wars.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, but I think I think Trump's problem is he
is not looking at all this crazy shit that everybody's
talking about, like because he probably likely hears about like
Israel conspiracies and you know, like Charlie Kirk conspiracies, all
this suff He probably hears about that shit, and he's like,
that's curious. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Now, He's got a young son that tells him a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I know, I get it. I mean, I'm not saying
that he's not listening, but there is a there is
a he's.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
A lot smarter than what we're giving him credit.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
But I no, I'm not saying he's not smart. I'm
just saying there are a lot of influential people around him,
like a lot. Now, I'm not saying Pete Hegseth. I'm
saying people very close to him, like very very close,
like his inner circle, like his White House chief of staff.
What's his name, Miller, Steven Miller. I don't trust that
guy at all, zero percent. I think he is a plant.

(59:01):
I think he does a lot like right next to
Trump all day every day. I don't trust him. Every
time he talks, I don't trust him. He makes us speeches,
it's just a bunch of bullshit. It seems like he
says crazy on his speech. I don't trust him.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Yeah, I don't know. There's something about him.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
That Pam Bondi the same way Pam Bondy was. You know,
she was a Florida a G during well around the
same time that Epstein stuff was going on. Now, she
wasn't a G when they gave the deal to Epstein
in Florida, but which she came right after.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
We got to remember he originally wanted Matt Gates and
Matt Gates did not work out. So that's why Pam
Bondy is in.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Matt Gates was anti Israel too, like he called out
a lot of the Israel stuff, and so they.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Oh, and he's got his own podcast now and he
does call it out a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Well, he has a show, he has a television show too.
But also so we have a lawsuit as well. So
Portland Police, we already talked about this. They are falling
suit and it says the circumstances given rise to claim
the overall context of dispute is one in which the
defendant Wheeler, with the assistance of the other name Definis,
has repeatedly misused the authority as Portland Police, commissioned to

(01:00:08):
protect individuals, violate in the laws of Oregon. So this
was the response. And then you have the actual lawsuit. Now,
the lawsuit which this was Laura Trump went on with
Secretary Nome and she had asked Secretary Nome, what do
you think about his lawsuit with these I guess woke judges,

(01:00:29):
And this is what she had to say.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
Listen, well, speaking of Portland, Oregon and the City of
Portland have sued to block the President sending in the
National Guard. They claimed that the ice protests have been
very small, that there have been no arrests since June,
but the White House cited twenty six federal cases for
alleged arson and assaults against law enforcement. So maybe you

(01:00:55):
want to take a moment and refresh people's memories as
to why it's important to send in the National Guard.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:01:02):
Absolutely, and we're not afraid of litigation, Laura. We will
go out and do our job that we will follow
the law, we will follow the constitution, and if activist
judges want to sue us, then they can do that,
but we'll continue to pursue what's right, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So that was Secuary Numb talking to Laura Trump about
the lawsuit and what the lawsuit basically says. It was
an emergency of lawsuit to prevent the president from sending
troops to protect federal property. Which is a pretty disturbing
email from Portland Police Sergeant Andrew Braun, which is badge
number number five six nine six y one was included,
and in it, Braun blames the victims of Antifa violence

(01:01:39):
for their own assaults and attacks. Broun claims that the
journalist Katee Davis Court, citizen journalists Honey Badge Mom, and
conservative activists Ryan d Amateur are somehow responsible for being
attacked by protesters. He falsely labels Davis Court and Shelley

(01:02:00):
Shafee as counter protesters and accuse them of trespassing on
federal property. And so in reality, the journalists stay near
or on federal property because they were on a public
street in Portland, the Portland police will not bother to
investigate if they are assaulted or robbed. Sergeant Braun is
especially parent in Antifa talking points, which justify violence against
those they deem unwelcome in public areas they lay claim to,

(01:02:23):
and Antifa regularly argues that anyone they label as an
antagonizer i e. The press, is fair game for violent retaliation.
The leadership mindset or policy helps explain why Portland police
have systematically failed to protect conservatives from being beaten or
robbed by Antifa and the violent far left over the years.

(01:02:44):
And we've seen this for so long, Like if you
are someone on the right and you protect yourself from
the left, you are going to be put in jail.
If you are someone on the left and you do
something to the right, you are going to be celebrated.
I mean, that is the way of this world. That is,
we are living in today's society. And so although we

(01:03:05):
have all of these things, which we'll get to in
just a moment with one of you, and Carroll's little posts,
one of his little dumb ass posts, which we'll say
because he called us a little podcast, but he's a
little bitch anyway. Sorry, Oh my god, sorry I should
I delete that? No, I'm not going to. So everybody
knows I'm struggling my faith.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Well, you said shit like five times.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
It's fine, But I mean we're in the Bible. Does
it say that you cannot say shit? Is all I'm saying.
So this is one of the journalists, Katie Davis, where
she talks about her being hit in the eye. She
has a black eye buy Antifa thug and they basically
didn't do anything about it. Listen, that is quite a shiner,
are you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Oh yeah, I definitely have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
A black eye.

Speaker 10 (01:03:51):
So that's what it's been like covering Portland for the
past four months.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Complete lawlessness.

Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
Wow, they say it's just one shity block.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Is that even true?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
That's not true. So it went from being a war
zone to one.

Speaker 10 (01:04:07):
City block, but it's actually several blocks where that is
completely controlled by Antifa affiliated protesters who harass, assault, and
threaten anyone who they perceived to be a threat to
their cause, including journalists, local residents, and ICE agents. And
the Trump administration is absolutely correct in deploying freed On

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troops here because Portland police has completely.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Abandoned this zone.

Speaker 10 (01:04:34):
They refuse to go in and everyone that shows up
is on their own.

Speaker 11 (01:04:39):
So it's kind of like Chaz or Chop was in Seattle.
They just, I guess, seceed this territory, see it to Antifa,
and they just let everything play out.

Speaker 10 (01:04:52):
Yeah, that's absolutely correct. So last night I got assaulted
and I immediately ran to a Portland flea officer, hunted
down the suspect, chased her through the streets and.

Speaker 12 (01:05:03):
Said, this is my assault suspect.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Can you guys find me do something?

Speaker 12 (01:05:08):
And I had eyes on her for about thirty five minutes.

Speaker 10 (01:05:11):
Portland police refused to come in and make an arrest.
And I have three officers just standing there watching me
try to hunt down this suspect. And imagine my anger
when I go online. After doing all of that, about
an hour ago, and I see Portland police put out
a bolo asking for the public's help and identifying my
assault suspect.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So that is what it's like.

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
On the ground here in Portland, and it's time for
a federal crackdown. The Trump administration needs to start treating
Antifa like isis the terrorists that they are, and put
an end to them here for good.

Speaker 11 (01:05:45):
All right, So Portland police say they're investigating. I guess
you had spoken to a dialogue officer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I don't even know what that means. But he did nothing,
so I don't even know what he's there for.

Speaker 11 (01:05:57):
Does it kind of feel like Portland officials, I can't
believe I'm even saying this, but have formed some sort
of alliance with Antifa?

Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Absolutely, I would.

Speaker 12 (01:06:10):
I would consider them Antifa at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Why not?

Speaker 10 (01:06:12):
So their whole agenda is to get ice out of Portland,
so they're trying to shield the public from what's going
on down on the ground. But I have four months
worth of video footage showing warlike scenes happening here, and
none of that footage is from twenty twenty. But then
you have Portland Police Chief Bob Day saying, oh the
videos that you guys are seeing are from five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
They are absolutely not.

Speaker 12 (01:06:37):
We have the evidence to back it up. And how
dare he do that? I'm a journalist, I.

Speaker 10 (01:06:43):
Don't really have I don't really say this often, but
Portland Teach Chief Bob Day, you need to resign.

Speaker 12 (01:06:49):
You need to resign immediately and now because you are
a horrible leader and it's time for you to go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, there you go. So that was a journalist that
was attacked. And keep in mind, like you know, we
have a lot of cops that listen to our podcast,
like what the hell is a liaison officer? And what
the hell is a dialogue officer? This is what these
sanctuary woke cities have done is they have created instead
of police, they actually do their job. They're like, well, hey, guys,

(01:07:18):
you got to go out there and like protect Antiqua
and just.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Talk to them and have conversation with them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
No, no, you got to go out there and yell
the citizens when they're trying to upend Antiva protest. That's
what these liaison dialogue officers are. They want to make
sure they are protected in TIFA and if they don't
protect Antifa, they are going to be fired.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
And let me just tell you about I think it
was Friday night when where watching the protests going on,
and they were fairly peaceful. There was some rhetorics going
between the two or whatever, and I think that's when
the Tommy guy got arrested. But anyways, when it was happening,
we could see the sally Port where the actual ICE

(01:08:00):
facility is, and they have this big white gate and
you can see like when all the ICE agents come out,
they open the gate and they all come out together
and push the crowd back. And as the same time
they had also the Oregon police come out from the backside,
and We're like, what the heck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Something major is going on. Are they gonna like take
all these protesters and lock them up? Are they gonna
arrest them? What's gonna happen? No, it took probably I
would say at least three hundred law enforcement. They all
come out the streets, They get all the streets back
in the corner, get them like safe away, and they
arrest the Tommy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, of course they arrested the Tommy guy. Yeah, he's
he's he's conservative, he is right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
It took three hundred police officers to arrest one man
that was not even doing anything hit him a megaphone, yes,
and he was saying, you know, arrest these people, and
he had arrested him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
But also, if you guys have been watching the live streams,
they will do these I guess targeted arrest to where
they'll bring in large law enforce, law enforcement presents. And
from what I have seen that when Portland police do
these mass targeted arrests to where they bring in lots
of law enforcement to arrest one person has always been
people on the right. Yes, it's always been conservatives. Now

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what the left does, or sorry, what the I guess
what you can say the right does, or the ICE
agents or Department of Homeland Security, they'll do the same thing,
but they'll actually arrest the people that are doing the crimes,
which is Antifa. And so they will come out of
the ice facility, they will see someone that has thrown
shit at them, or have thrown a firework or done
something or hit someone or abuse someone. They will have

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to come all the way out of the sally Port.
They will go and target that one person and bring
them back in the ICE facility. But Portland police never
does it because they're not there in that little area
because they have been advised do not do that. You
go outside of there. But if you see anyone that
you think is on the right, arrest them. You're targeting
the right. ICE is targeting, what they are saying, the left,

(01:10:04):
but they're just targeting people that are committing crimes. If
there are people on the right that are committing crimes,
ICE would also target those people. ICE is not biased
when it comes to who's out there committing crimes. That's
why you see a lot of these conservative or right
journalists that are trying to talk to the ICE agents
or whoever, and ICE ags won't even talk to them.
They're like, we're not on your side. We're here to
protect law and order, and I don't give a shit

(01:10:26):
if you're right or left. We're going to arrest you
if we see it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Well, they did tell them, we're probably gonna have to
do tear gas, so beware, Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I mean, because it was the Antifa that was pushing
so far up and they did do tear gas. They
backed them up probably a block, and then even as
the ICE agent started backing up going back into the
sally Port area, that was when Antifa just completely inundated
the area. Again. They do it every time. But listen,
the reality of this situation is that Portland Police is
arresting the right and ICE is arresting the left, because

(01:10:57):
that's actually the ones committing crimes. It's not the it's
not the fact that the ICE is out there trying
to arrest people on the left. They're arresting people that
they are seeing committing crimes, and most of the time
they're actually seeing them commit crimes multiple times before they
actually even go do a targeted arrest. You know, for example,
there was that one reporter, Nick Shirley, which is on YouTube.
You guys should go check him out. Yeah, he got

(01:11:19):
cornered and they started pushing him out. And what they
were doing, they was pushing him out away from all
the cameras, away from all this shit. And there was
this guy that was like getting very threatening with him,
saying that he's gonna he's gonna stab him and do
all this shit. And then there was a Department of
Home and Security sniper on the roof that put a
laser this guy, and Nick Shirley was like, you got

(01:11:39):
a laser on your chest right now, and you really
want to do this right now, and he gots like,
I don't give a shit about laser, and he kind
of looked down.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
And he's like, oh shit, now, let me ask you.
The same thing happens though in the selling port, like
all the ICE officer will come out and they'll open
the gates and then all these cars come out, but
they're not no, no, those are they're not labeled the cars.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
What are those cars? Well, I mean you got to
you have to understand. ICE don't use like you know,
all the time, ICE vehicles to go in these places.
I mean, they have everyday vehicles that they are using
for So why are.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
They going out off people? Is it people that are
getting off duty? Is it people going in there? Because
ICE is not just a facility to arrest illegal immigrants.
They are there to do passport pictures and all that
stuff too, is what I heard. Well, it could it
be civilians that are coming out and they do it
at one time that they're letting all these people out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Well, it could be media, It could be anybody. I mean,
especially since the Nick Sorter arrest, I mean, they've had
influencers that they've allowed into the ICE facilities to document it.
From inside. They've had a lot of people in there.
I mean, it could be politicians, it could be anybody.
So yeah, of course you've got to protect that route
of whoever's coming in and out of that place. And
that's what they're doing. That's not I mean, that's not

(01:12:53):
a very big bad thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
No, I'm just asking who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Well, we don't know who they are, but we shouldn't
know who they are because when you know who they are,
then they're in danger, especially from Antifa in the left,
because they want to kill all these people. And the
reality of this is is like, as soon as you
start making a name for yourself in the space of
going against them, going against the New World Order, going
against Antiva, going against this woke ideology, anti Christian, anti government,

(01:13:19):
anti right, anti anything that's good, you are a target.
Just look at Charlie Kirk. That's the exact same thing
that happened to him. Now, Scott Jennings, he was on CNN.
He's always on CNN, and he had a good point.
He always has good points. But he said, I'm getting
pretty sick of Democrats calling a protest when ANTIVA attacks
law enforcement and federal facilities. Very short clip, but let's listen.

Speaker 14 (01:13:40):
Well, No, the predict it is is that Portland has
been occupied by Antifa for quite some time. You guys
keep calling them protests. These aren't protests. These are violent people.
They're attacking law enforcement, They're attacking federal facilities. The President
of the United States has every obligation to defend federal
facilities in federal personnel. There.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
I agree with you. It is a disgrace, a disgrace.

Speaker 14 (01:14:00):
That we have an American city that is essentially being
occupied by left wing radicals and the locals won't do
anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And so now the presentation.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (01:14:11):
By local officials has been described as something that's essentially
happening in one city block of Portland.

Speaker 14 (01:14:17):
They are assaulting the ice facilities they are assaulting.

Speaker 15 (01:14:20):
Is a city, and it's not a perfect city, but
it is a city, and something occurring in one city
block is suddenly Portland is warm.

Speaker 14 (01:14:27):
Have you dispute that they've attacked the ice facifesy, I.

Speaker 15 (01:14:29):
Didn't say anything about that. I said that it's happening
in one block of the city. So does that does
that constitute Portland being a war ravage city?

Speaker 14 (01:14:39):
I think what's happened in Portland is a disgrace. Nobody
wants to go there. And yes, parts of the parts
of the city are ravaged by these protesters, and federal
the city is believed their facilities under attack.

Speaker 15 (01:14:49):
When they're even when they are violent protests, which, by
the way, nothing new about violent protest is you know,
so it's not when violent protests happen, law enforcement has
a respon fonssibility to handle it. But would you describe
an entire city as war ravage when they're protests, even
if they're violent, that's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Okay, So this girl's CNN saying, well, you know, law
enforcement is they're responsibility to handle Well they're not, though,
that's the problem. They are not handling to call people in. Yes,
that's they're not handling what they're supposed to do. And
when federal agents come into a city to do their job,
and law enforcement basically protects the people that are trying

(01:15:29):
to upend and try to stop the federal agents from
doing their job immigration law, then that's when you have
to send a national guard. I mean that that's a
very easy point to make. It's not to say that
like it's a military state. Is not to say the
infringement on your on your rights is not to say
a military state is to say that if federal agents
come in to do a federal immigration sweep, which is

(01:15:50):
what ICE is supposed to do, and the local law
enforcement is protecting Antifa and those people and doing the
dirty work for the mayor and the governor of the
state and of this city, you have to send in
somebody as a federal agency to help you. And the
only people you can kind of send in for that
role is National Guard. So I just want to point

(01:16:12):
that out. But last video we're going to get to
this is Ian Carroll in his little video. But I
think Ian Carroll is I've said this a lot. You know,
Ashton and I in us in this podcast. We were
supposed to do a debate, and a lot of people
recognize over the past couple of days we have not
done a debate. Well, we did get sick. I was

(01:16:33):
sick yesterday. I did tell Ashton, I said, hey man,
not feeling this tonight, but let's do it tomorrow. Did
not hear anything back from him until like six o'clock tonight.
He had like just posted a like up to let's
do it. Tomorrow. That was literally an hour or two ago,
and so. But then Ashton also said, well, I'm not
really feeling a debate whatever, And I get it, like

(01:16:53):
especially with us, whereas friends whatever, we don't necessarily agree
with everything Ashton's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
I didn't like the debate in the beginning anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
But either way, I think Ashen's take on Ian in
some ways is correct because Ian, although he does have
good points to certain things, I think Ian for his
like over the past couple of years, his uprising, or
like how big he has got over the past couple
of years, I think he's used a lot of people
to get there. And I think there's a lot of

(01:17:22):
people that are kind of pissed off about that. I
guess you can say, and I'm not even necessarily saying
he did that with us, even though he kind of did.
I mean, you know, he we at one point in
time was kind of his bros. And then all of
a sudden he's like, screw you guys. And he kind
of did that to a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
He screwed us when he found out I was pro Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Yeah, well probably, but either way, he's screwed a lot
of people. He's he's out for himself, and you know,
the only people he wants to talk to is people
that are going to benefit him to go from one
million to five million, or five million to six million
or whatever. That's why he went on Joe Rogan. You know,
he's only he feels like he's above the atmosphere. Now,

(01:18:01):
it's like, you know, that's kind of his thing. And
but what I will say, he has this point which
I saw and I wanted to play this because there's
a lot of people saying this, you know, is what
Trump is doing and the government the right thing to do?
Or is there a downfall for all of us as
citizens based on this? And so I will play what

(01:18:21):
Ian Carroll says here, here you go.

Speaker 7 (01:18:24):
Larry Ellison is on a media rampage. He's buying TikTok,
he got Paramount, he got CBS, he got he put
Barry Wise in charge.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Of one of them. I'm not gonna look it all up.

Speaker 7 (01:18:42):
The next phase is censorship. The next phase is all
out censorship blitz. That is what is coming, Okay, think
about it. Charlie Kirk was the free speech guy, right.
Charlie Kirk presented a lot of ish use for the
agenda right now by the powers that be. He basically

(01:19:05):
single handedly stopped further escalation of war with Iran. We
found out by literally barging into the Oval Office, having
like kind of an intervention with Trump and speaking his
mind in no like no unclear terms. Charlie Gark is
basically the reason why Vance and Trump made it into
the White House, and he went in there and spoke
his damn mind about war with Iran and probably got

(01:19:27):
it shut down. So he stands in the way of
war with Iran, he stands in the way of censorship,
and he's probably was going to be president. I mean,
but we really we don't know why he was killed. Obviously,
we have no idea why he was killed. Probably just
a lone nut, probably no specific reason. But now that

(01:19:48):
the free.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Speech guy is out of the way, you know what's coming.

Speaker 7 (01:19:57):
Censorship on TikTok, banning of a counts, probably on YouTube
as well. They're gonna go after X, They're gonna go,
they're gonna ramp up with the ADL, They're gonna do
everything they've got, probably more that we can't even imagine.
So prepare yourself. We are not in the easy part yet.
We are not already decoupled. This is just getting started,

(01:20:20):
and it's gonna get way worse before it gets better.
And I mean, call me a crazy conspiracy theorist, call
me a blood libeling anti Semite, whatever you want to,
call me awoke Reichter, but let's just say that we
have reason to believe that Israel has done a few
false flags in the past, dragged us into a few wars,

(01:20:43):
done a couple of terrorisms, maybe even on US soil,
and they're very keen on censoring your speech, telling you
what you can and can't say, and you dan well
better believe they're not gonna go down without a fight,
not gonna let this decoupling happen under any circumstances. And

(01:21:03):
so we are going to have the biggest censorship wave
and push that you've ever seen. And we're probably also
going to see a false flag or two, and we
might see things even crazier than that. So just buckle up,
be wise, be thoughtful, be very careful, engage with the

(01:21:24):
Internet and meaningful ways while you can, and don't give up,
you know, don't don't give into despair.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
So that's what Ian Carroll's saying. And look I understand
what he's saying from the TikTok perspective. Yes, there were
a lot of people that were Israel backed buyers for TikTok.
They were, and they are buying up a lot of
media companies, which we've we've known that they are for

(01:21:55):
a long time anyway, But like, what does this mean,
well for us as a podcast, what does it mean
or for Ian Carroll for example, Like, if you're Ian
Carroll and what he's saying is true, we're talking about censorship.
But let's talk about it on a surface level. First.
Let's talk about it in a way that we can
understand it without blaming Israel for everything, which is what
a lot of people say that people are doing. Let's

(01:22:17):
talk about just from a censorship perspective. With these riots
and protests and whatever. There's a reason why they are
hyping this shit up so hardcore in mainstream media because
they're going to use it for something. And I'm not
necessarily I'm not saying that Trump is like, you know,

(01:22:38):
in his bed at night trying to figure out a
plan how to censor people. I'm just saying the powers
that be will figure out a way to utilize this
as a propagandized narrative to censor a certain set of
people that maybe are talking about certain things that they
don't want them talking about. That could be that if
you disagree with a certain facet of Republican versus Democrat politics,

(01:23:04):
or if you disagree with Israel, or if you disagree
with how they responded to gods, or whatever the case is,
there is going to be censorship coming down the pipeline,
I believe, and with the people that like like He
and Carol and Kendas Owens and all these people that
are talking about Israel. And you know, keep in mind, guys,
when I say we, I get messages from people that say, like, well,

(01:23:29):
you like to talk about Israel a lot. But the
reality of this is is Israel and Jews are completely different.
They are one hundred percent different facets of the conversation
the Jewish people of Israel, or the Jewish people of
the world for that matter, because not all Jewish people
live in Israel, they are not completely on the hip

(01:23:50):
of the Israel government. So when I criticize or say
something about Israel that does not represent what I'm saying
about the Jewish people, I don't have a problem Jewish people. Actually,
I have a problem with people that are corrupt and
piece of shit, just like I do in our own government,
just like I do in Russia or Ukraine or anybody else.
We talked more shit about Ukraine than we probably ever

(01:24:10):
talked about Israel. But it seems like as soon as
we even mention Israel, we get a lot of backlash,
We get a lot of shit, we get a lot
of hate. There's a lot of people that do and
there was a lot of people that got a lot
of hate for people that you know, didn't necessarily agree
with the narrative of the Russia Ukraine War. There's a
lot of people that got hate. You know who those

(01:24:31):
people were. There were people that were like, hey, you
know what, isn't it weird that like all the crazy
far leftists, the same people that agree with Antifa are
also having the Ukrainian flags in their bios. Isn't that
kind of weird that are the same people. Isn't also
kind of weird that, like Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski was
an actor. Isn't also kind of weird that we know
for a fact that the CIA, the US government started

(01:24:55):
at coup in Ukraine not started, but also implemented at
coup in Ukraine to take out a pro Russian president
and put in a pro Western president. And then therefore
Vladimir Zelinsky appears, and then the Biden Harris administration do
nothing more than antagonize the war between Russia and Ukraine

(01:25:17):
by making Russia believe that we're definitely going to bring
them into NATO, putting bioweapons labs inside of the Ukraine,
likely even weapons, not just bioweapons, but also weapons inside
of Ukraine. So Ukraine essentially was like a NATO country
without being officially a NATO country. And this was on
the border with what Russia and the United States is

(01:25:38):
always known as their greatest enemy in the world, which
is Russia, ussr United States. So the Democrats, the deep
state wanted you to to say, look, if you don't
support Ukraine, which is what we're trying to do in
Ukraine to basically overthrow Russian government, if you don't agree
with that, then you're a piece of shit. You you
don't care about the people in Ukraine. You want them

(01:26:00):
to die. There's never any other a facet of that.
And so, but you didn't get the backlash for criticizing
as much of Israel and the United States involvement on
Ukraine and Russia, then you do Israel for sure. And
so I think what Ian Carol is saying here is
that if Israel and the lobby, APAC and all them

(01:26:26):
are buying up TikTok, I mean you guys can go
for yourself and look up who's buying TikTok, how that
deal is being struck, especially with the mass, the mass
amount of people that you utilize and use TikTok. Go
look it up, like who's buying it, who's the investors,
who's the people that are going to control the algorithm,
all that stuff. And then also at Ian Carroll's point,

(01:26:46):
go look up people buying CBS, Go look up people
that are buying these massive media networks. They're going to
have their own agendas, right, And I'm not saying that
any of this shit involves Israel, even the Antifa stuff.
I think you just said it did. No. No, I'm
not saying Antiva.

Speaker 7 (01:27:03):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
But in one breath you're saying it's all Israel's fault,
and now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You're not saying, I'm not saying Antifa has anything to
do with Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Okay, well make your point.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Clear, then, well I'm making my point very clear. What
I'm saying is is that I think that we are
faced right now with a time that we just do
not understand who is our enemies. We don't quite fully
understand it. We don't know exactly how or who are
going to censor us. We don't know, Like for us
from a podcast perspective, I don't know what one thing

(01:27:36):
that we say on a social media platform is going
to censor us or is going to blow us up.
It all depends. It all depends on who's behind those platforms.
It all depends on what the narratives that those people
that are investors in those social media companies are about.
What are their ideologies. You know, just like we saw
during the Biden Harris administration, if you spoke out anything

(01:27:56):
pro conservative or anti or anti Biden, or anti Kamala
or anti whatever, deep state conspiracy theories, whatever, you were
censored and you were banned. But now we're getting into
a weird time to where it's like we don't know
because now they're saying you have to be anti left,
you have to be anti Antifa, you have to be
anti this, and you're either on this side or that.

(01:28:18):
And there are people out there as influencers that are
saying you're either going to be this a conservative, which
means that you are one hundred percent pro Israel, you
are one hundred percent anti left and anti Antifa, anti.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
All these things. Only too Well, it is because go
to X and look at X. Everybody's anti Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Everyone is no. No, the what I believe as the
paid conservatives or one hundred percent pro Israel and one
hundred percent anti left.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Okay, so then I'm seeing all the paid people on my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Ex probably yeah, because they're going to get pushed.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Okay, Well, let's go back to that song for just
a minute. In the end of the song, he said, basically,
in short words, we're not winning. They're winning because they're
Let's think about but let's just think about the star second,
let's think about who they are. Let's think about the
Summer of Love. Let's think about Black Lives Matter. For example,

(01:29:20):
most black people didn't even want Antifa out there fighting
for them. They're like, no, you're not going to do
this job for this is our job. When it came
to George Floyd. But what it is, it's it's not
even about the people, it's about the divide of the people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Is the government going to use all of this for
a way to censor us, to censor people that have
maybe a different opinion on the government. And I'm not
saying that we are against what Trump administration is doing
with Antifa or ice or the immigration laws, and we're not.
But we also have to just make sure that this
ship doesn't go too far. That's all I'm saying, because

(01:29:58):
at the end of the day, we have to understand
and the government is working for us what they're supposed
to be. The US government is supposed to be working
for the people, not against And I'm not saying that
Trump is. I actually think that Trump is working more
for the people than many presidents in the past, So
I commend him on that. Do I agree with everything
that's happened so far, No, I do not. But is

(01:30:19):
it much better than Obama or Biden and Harris? Absolutely yes.
And whereas I don't agree with Ian Carroll and Canaz
owns everything is Israel because I just don't think that's
the truth. I don't think that's the case. I do
believe that we shouldn't silence people that want to criticize Israel.
I don't think we should silence people that want to

(01:30:40):
criticize Trump and the administration. I don't think we should
silenced people that want to criticize Biden Harris, because that
is what we got during the Biden Harris administration. We
got complete silencing, We got complete censorship. If you were
on the right, you were conservative, you spoke out, you
said anything against the wide open borders, you set anything
against the COVID narrative, you said anything against Black Lives

(01:31:00):
Matter movement, you said anything against the lgbtq Q plus
trans movement, you were silenced. You were censored, you were
shadow band. That's horrible. It's bad, it's not good, and
I don't think it's good on any side. We should
let people talk. As long as they are not violent,
as long as they are not breaking laws, as long
as they are not doing things that are going to

(01:31:22):
upend our sovereignty and our government and an insurrection level.
We should let people speak. We should let people talk.
And I see this kind of thing going on, this
narrative going on on social media right now, to where
there are these influencers that are saying that if you
even question certain things, then you are a moron. You're

(01:31:43):
an idiot. You should not even think about question any
of this stuff. And I have a word of advice.
If you don't want people to question things so hardcore,
you should not tell them they can't, because as soon
as you start telling people that they can't question it
is when they're going to question it more. And that

(01:32:03):
might be the problem. That really might be the problem.
The more that things that you are questioning are protected,
the more that people are going to want to rebel
and question, And whether or not that they are correct
or not doesn't matter. The problem we are at in
America right now is that we do have a very
divided country, very divided. Who is the culprits of this?

(01:32:27):
Who is the conspirators of this? I think, like I say,
I think you can go and read the Bible to
find out kind of who that is is the people
that want this new world order. It's the people that
want a one world government. It's not just happening in
America's happening in the United Kingdom. It has happening across
the world. It's happening in Australia. We talked to people
in Australia. It's happening in places of South America and Africa.

(01:32:50):
There are Christians being slaughtered in Africa, there are coups
in South America. You have mass immigration in the UK
to where people can't even speak out and defend their
country and be patriots because they are labeled racist, they're
labeled domestic terrorists because they say that we should not
have mass immigration of people that completely disagree with everything

(01:33:12):
that we believe. That's the problem with this world right now.
And I'm not saying this any one particular person's fault,
but you know, it's one of the things I said
last night. It's like the more I start thinking and
reading and seeing all this stuff that's going on, you know,

(01:33:33):
I think it was Ross. I actually said, well, because
I told him this kind of actually wasn't Ross, it
was actually Nick. It was Nick, And I said, you know,
it's like two arms. Now you have two arms. You
have a left swinging arm and a right swinging arm,
and you might have a left swinging arm that's swinging
in this direction and a right swinging arm to swinging
in this direction. So they're different, but the entire body

(01:33:55):
of that person is moving in one direction, and that
body is the government. And I believe that the government
is moving in a direction of surveillance and censorship. And
I think also the government is so underpowered against the
New World Order and the globalist that we can't even imagine.

(01:34:18):
And I think that when Trump brings in people and
I'm not just saying Trump, by the way, the Biden
Harris administration was a million times worse. But as Trump
brings in people like Larry Elis and Peter Till, Sam
Alton and all these people that are investing in AI Pallunteer.
When they bring in all these people and they tout
this five hundred, six hundred and seven hundred billion dollar investment,

(01:34:41):
those are just operatives for the deep state. They are
operatives for the New World Order, and they are the
wolf in sheep's clothing, and they are in the White
House and they're saying Trump, we're gonna give you all
this money, We're gonna give American money, We're gonna make
you look like a hero. And at same time, Trump
just doesn't understand what's coming down the pipeline. But guys,

(01:35:03):
that's going to be it for us. On this episode
of Investigative Podcast until next time We love you. This
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