Republicans Lose Big, MAGA Fractured: Foreign Divide & Tucker Carlson Fallout Rock the Right

Last night’s election shook the Republican Party to its core. Key MAGA strongholds slipped, and what’s left is a movement divided — not just over strategy, but over loyalty, faith, and foreign ties. As the dust settles, questions about the Israel divide, the shifting tone from Trump’s circle, and the media storm surrounding Tucker Carlson are tearing through the right like never before. Tonight, Chad and Sheri break down what really happened, what the mainstream media won’t say, and why this moment could redefine the future of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hi Lea.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Sasha, Hello, and welcome to Investigator Podcast. I'm your host
chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. Last night's election results
left a lot of people in the MAGA movement asking
questions about what happened, and in key places we thought
were pretty solid, the tide turned and it wasn't the landslide,

(00:57):
but it was enough to make people question what's really
good going on behind the scenes and whether the movement's
message is being heard the way it once was. So
now we're going to break down not just the numbers,
but the why, because something about the election doesn't sit
right with a lot of people. How did MAGA and
the Republicans lose so bad last night? Guys, welcome to
the show. It is November the fifth, twenty to twenty five.

(01:18):
The name of this song is Walking Dead by a
Wellness s feature in Blacktop Banks, And I got to say,
I'm not really excited about doing this episode because I
think what happened last night in New York, Chicago, Georgia, Virginia,
there were a lot of key races that Democrats picked
up seats, or even the Prop fifty in California, which

(01:40):
some of you actually have heard the commercials on our
podcast about Prop fifty where Gavin Newsom was like, vote
yes to Prop fifty, essentially expanding their borderlines or their
congressional districts to be able to pick up more seats
that did actually pass. Although, yes, Gavin Newsom is an
ass hat and he he literally has destroyed California or

(02:02):
at least helped to continue destroy California as much as
he possibly can. But then you also had the Virginia races.
You obviously had the New York mayor race, which ma'am dommy,
ma'am Donnie won, whatever his damn name is, ma'm dommy,
ma'm donnie. He won against Andrew Cuomo. What a surprise

(02:23):
that I know. I mean, you literally could have put
that paper.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
That was one race though I was not good with.
But after we were listening last night to his speech,
I was like, damn, this guy has a really good speech,
and I just wanted to say that before all these
elections happened, you kind of called this Chad. You said
everything is gonna go left because of what's going on
in the administration. Now, you were right, you called it,

(02:51):
and this is what's happening. Well, it's a wave of blue.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And the thing is it's not even twenty twenty six yet, right,
These are kind of the or the contemporary elections is
what they call it, I believe, But this is the
elections kind of leading into twenty twenty six, and it's
a good way for Republicans and Democrats both to kind
of get a gauge on what may happen in the midterms,
which is twenty twenty six. Those are a lot of
important races during next year, and then obviously twenty twenty

(03:18):
eight we have the presidential election coming. And you know
the reason why I said that this is a very
good possibility that in twenty twenty six, MAGA and the
right may lose their ass with these elections is because
of what is going on in MAGA and the Republicans camp,
and in large part, I hate to say it, it
is the Trump administration's fault of why this is happening. Now,

(03:40):
we can talk about many things about why this may
be happening, but let's just start with Obviously, it's something
that we've talked about and criticize the Trump administration for,
especially over the past few months. Is the Epstein files.
That's an obvious one. There was a lot of people
that believe that once Trump and the administration got in
that we were going to finally have full transparency. You
have people like Cash Mattel that went on podcasts for

(04:02):
years leading up to his appointment as FBI director, And
during this time when he was on these podcasts, he
was promising, even though you know, he didn't necessarily supposedly
know that he was going to be FBI director, but
he's like, if I ever get in the administration on
day one, we are going to be fully transparent. And
he even told Scherry, you made a good point on
this on the last episode. You know, he had told

(04:24):
a lot of these podcasters that he had seen the
Epstein files and there had been files leaked to him
that showed him that, oh my god, this is unbelievable. Guys,
what is actually in the Epstein files. And then obviously
he gets appointed FBI director and then it's just the
talking head. He is the talking head now of the FBI,
just like almost everybody before him. I believe that even

(04:47):
still Cash Betel, Pambondi and the likes are doing the
dirty work for the deep State, whether willingly or not,
they are. And you know, even Trump himself in many
press conferences told the media that, hey, the Epstein files
are a hoax. It's all a big Democrat hoax, just
like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like all this other stuff.
And there were many times also, by the way, that

(05:08):
not just Donald Trump himself, but Cash Betel and Pambondi said, look,
if it's going to be those Republicans that are going
to continue to ask the questions about the Epstein files,
we don't need those type of Republicans anyway.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, And that's just so sad that that is a
way of dividing the Republican Party. I'm sorry, but it is.
And when you campaign about this and you say you're
going to do these things and then you don't do it,
and you backtrack and say, oh, no, it's a hoax.
You didn't see any files. There are no files. We
held out like blank notebooks with no files in them.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, and it was all just some big propaganda scheme.
And you know, we've talked also a lot about propagandists
on social media, you know, it was something that quite
a few Congress people have talked about over the past
few months. Marjorie Taylor Green also talked about it on
some podcasts or some showed that she was on talking
about you know, just like that we need foreign you know,

(06:03):
countries to register THROUGHFARA. We also need, you know, influencers
that are being paid by foreign nations to also register.
They should be a they should be required to register.
If you are receiving money from a foreign nation based
on influence in our government politics, then you should have
to register. Same thing would go obviously for news agencies

(06:23):
like Fox News if they're pro Israel or they're being
funded heavily by Israel. Same thing would happen if a's CNN, MSNBC,
any of the others. The problem right now is that
we are kind of on I guess, uncharted territory where
we do have this mass push of influencers, especially in
a news space, and in large part because of X.

(06:44):
You know, if you go to your play store or
you go to the app store on your iPhone and
you look up X the app, you know, the number
one thing that says all over the app, it says
the number one news app, and yes, it was rated
the number one news app on both the App Store
and Google Play. And that is because this is an
app and it is the biggest app that people get
a lot of breaking news, and all of that or

(07:05):
most of the news that they are getting and receiving
on X is from influencers. So as people like Kat
Tured and Benny Johnson and Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson, you
name it, all of the big influencers on there are
the ones that are disseminating news now. And the problem
is that a lot of people just don't know who

(07:25):
is being paid in influence and who was not. And
this is the big battle.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
But what was interesting when X first became a quote
unquote free speech platform, it seemed like it was the
majority of Republicans that were on this platform and Democrats
are like, screw you, X, We're out gone see you later.
But now I feel like Democrats are back over on

(07:51):
X and you know, giving their opinions as well. So
it is to a point a free speech platform, but
it's not a free reach platform.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, We've talked about that many times. And you know,
there's also a lot of people too, you know, like
the Ian Carrol's and all of those people that you
know were with RFK that have now kind of jumped
ship again because they felt like that they were lied
to leading up to the twenty twenty four election. They
felt like that this administration was finally going to be transparent,
that they're not seeing it that way. And then of

(08:22):
course you have the Republican I think it's the Republican
Jewish Coalition. They just recently had a meeting last week
and it was this big thing. They recorded every single
speaker that came. I mean, you even had people like
Floyd Money Mayweather for whatever reason, that shows up at
this Jewish Conservative Coalition thing and he was talking about

(08:42):
how his heart is with Israel and that he defends
Israel no matter what. It was just very strange, like
why Floyd Money Mayweather would be there. But then what
they primarily used this big gala for our gala, I
guess you can say, is to attack people like Tucker Carlton.
It was to attack people like Nick Fuintes, it was
to attack like Canni Soans, and it was also to

(09:02):
send a message to anyone on the right or as
a Republican that if you criticize Israel. You are number
one anti Semitic and number two that we will cancel
and destroy your lives. Because they've said it, and they've
had their little talking heads like Mark Levin. You know,
Nick fint has did a great piece on that just
a few days ago, kind of his response to what

(09:23):
Mark Levin said at this gala or this meeting, whatever
this thing was. But Mark Levin essentially came out and said, look,
screw with us, and we're going to cancel you. We
will destroy your lives. Because this is a battle, and
this is what it seems like it is shaping up
to be. It is a battle in MAGA and Conservatives
and Republicans that you either get on board with every

(09:45):
single thing that Israel wants and request for or from
the United States government, or that you are no longer MAGA,
you are no longer a Republican. And so obviously there
are people on the Republican Party side and the conservative
side that are heavily America first. And we're talking about
maybe fifty percent of the Republican Party. So when this

(10:07):
party fifty percent that are America first, the ones that
you know say, hey, you know, our grocery prices are
still high. The gas prices are technically still high. We
we do technically still have inflation. Although yes, Trump you know,
continually brags about all the wars that he has solved.
We still have the massive one against Ukraine and Russia.
Although there's supposedly a ceasefire in between Gaza and Israel,

(10:29):
Israel is still bombing Gaza. They are still killing innocent
civilians and even just recently, I think a couple of
weeks ago where a reporter asked Donald Trump as he
was about to get onto Air Force one, and they said, Trump,
what do you think about Israel that is potentially going
to annex the West Bank? And Trump's like, well, that's
not going to happen. And then two days later, Benjaminett

(10:51):
Yahuo goes on live television and says, oh, we're we're
basically going to annex the West Bank. And by the way,
we don't need the United States has help or approve.
We are our own nation and we'll do whatever the
hell we want to do. That's essentially what Benjaminett yah
who said. But at the same time, we're sending billions
and billions of dollars of tax payer dollars from the
American people, and especially because the American people voted in

(11:16):
the what they thought was the America First Donald Trump
president and administration. But instead we're still sending billions of dollars.
It doesn't seem like Israel's really listening to Donald Trump
that much, as far as you know what his wishes
are in the region. And then of course you know
we're going to build Gaza back, but not us necessarily.
It's most likely going to be Israel that takes over Gaza,

(11:38):
takes over Palestine. They will control Palestine and they will continue,
in my opinion, probably to kick out or do something
with all the people that are left there that are Palestinian.
So if you want to know maybe why the Republicans
loss last night, this could be the reason. When you
have a stark division in the report Publican Party, when

(12:01):
you are literally meeting days prior to this election, the
Republican Jewish Coalition meeting, and you are attacking the biggest
voices that people on the Republican Party on the conservative
side listen to. We're talking about. Tucker Carlson is one
of those we're talking about. Candice Owens is also another

(12:21):
one of those we're also talking about one hundred percent
without a doubt, which is what Tucker will say in
this clip will play in just a minute. But Nick Fuintes,
which is likely the most influential person for the right
for anybody under thirty years old. I mean, you can
argue that or not. The numbers will tell you that
his groyper movement, this movement that Nick Fuintees has created

(12:45):
is has a lot of traction. And so you can
talk shit about them all you want to. You can
go to this Republican Jewish Coalition meeting and trash Tucker
and trash Nick Fuintes and trash Candace and Marjorie Taylor
Green and Thomas Massey, basically anyone that's stepping out of
bounds from your movement or from the Israel First movement,
which is what I believe this administration has almost kind

(13:07):
of become. Is this Israel First initiative rather than the
America First initiative, then you're going to lose. And if
the Republican Party does not wake up right now we're
talking about the administration that is in office right now,
then they will lose bad in twenty twenty six. And
they will also lose in twenty twenty eight unless they
become a dictatorship. And so you know, all these hats

(13:28):
are gonna go to waste about Trump twenty twenty eight.
So this they better figure out something to do. Now,
I want to go ahead and go over what exactly
happened last night, like who were the winners, who were
the losers, and and we'll start there first. So last
night in Virginia, the Democrat Abigail Spamberger defeated Republican Winsome

(13:50):
Earl Sears by a large margin, about fifty seven point
five percent to forty two point three percent for governor. Now,
I will be honest with you, I've watched a lot
of what win some seers. She's a probably a sixty
year old something black lady, and she is, I believe,
the lieutenant governor right now, but she had ran for governor.
Everything I have ever watched about her, I've always liked.

(14:12):
I've always liked what she said. I've always liked her
viewpoints and opinions, although I don't fully know, you know,
kind of like what she actually would be about once
she gets the governor. But I can almost assure you
that she would be a better governor than Abigail Spanberger.
But then you also had Democrats that won the lieutenant
governor and Attorney general office in Virginia as well, and

(14:32):
so this expanded their majority in the state House of Delegates,
which basically gained them thirteen seats just in Virginia. And
in the New Jersey, Democrat Mike Cheryl defeated Republican Jack
Satlery for governor about fifty six point two percent versus
forty three point two and that's as of ninety two
percent that's reporting right now. In New York City, obviously

(14:55):
you had Democrat Zorron ma'm donnie won the mayoral race
defeating ex Governor Andrew Cuomo that ran as an independent
and Republican Curtis Sliwa ma'am Dobby captured fifty point four
percent to Cuomo's forty one point six and that's what
ninety percent reporting. And in California, obviously, the ballot measure
Proposition fifty past sixty two point sixty four point two

(15:17):
percent the thirty five that is a huge number about
the amount of people that actually voted for this Prop
fifty thing to go through, allowing the state legislator to
withdraw congressional districts, obviously favoring Democrats. And then in Georgia
you had Democrats picked up two statewide utility regulator seats
defeating Republican incumbents. So these were incumbents in Georgia that

(15:39):
they demolished in Georgia very easily. These were the two
elections that happen, And in overall, the ninety is being
called a strong win for Democrats and a huge loss
for Republicans in MAGA. And so this is something that
I've been saying. I've said it a month or two ago,
and I said, if the Republicans and Donald Trump and
the administration does not start doing better on messaging, whether

(16:00):
it is about the Epstein files, whether it is about
America First and the Israel lobbying, whatever, and stop attacking,
especially some of your biggest people in the MAGA movement,
and you're just going to start attacking the biggest names
that influence people on that side. Literally, the same names
you're attacking are also the same names that help you
get elected just a year ago. So and this is

(16:23):
what I don't understand of what exactly they're doing now.
If as we talked about, like what are some of
the reasons, right, And this is this is the big one,
like what are the reasons why they lost? As we've
been already talking about a little bit here, but now
there was obviously a lot of voter concern if you
want to start talking about like why they lose and
how and all this, there was a lot of voter

(16:44):
concerned about the economy, cost of living, inflation, jobs. Now,
obviously during the Biden Harris administration, they completely destroyed this country.
They destroyed our economy, they destroyed our border, they had
destroyed our military. They had one of the highest inflation
rates ever. So we can't and I wouldn't, by the way,
blame Trump and the administration for inflation or cost of

(17:05):
groceries or any of that stuff. He's been in a
year and some of the cost of groceries has certainly
came down. I mean, if you go to your grocery store,
the eggs are not as expensive, the milk, all this stuff,
but it is still high. Is higher than it used
to be, you know, say eight years ago. The gas
is going down, but it's still decently high. And then
you think also about the administration and GOP, they were

(17:27):
kind of perceived as distracted by the foreign policy, right,
so things like Russia, Ukraine, especially the Israel deal, and
then you have this shutdown which is going on right
now that's over a month long. Now, don't I don't
necessarily blame the Trump administration or the Republicans for maintaining
their stance on the shutdown, especially if it is one
hundred percent true that they're trying to push through health

(17:51):
care for illegals and all this other bs, including by
the way, they're still trying to fund in other ways
like they used to fund through USAID, all this other craziness.
I mean, they're still trying to do these trans initiatives
in Africa and South America even in this bill. They're
also wanting to push through with the illegal healthcare. And

(18:11):
then so there was a lot of MAGA aligned voters
basically that skipped races when Trump wasn't on a ballot,
and they don't really like the way the Republican Party
is right now. They see the Republican Party and some
of their biggest leaders calling out people that are just
criticizing Israel or foreign money or foreign lobbying, and this
is what we used to see with Biden and Harris.

(18:33):
It wasn't necessarily as big with Biden Harris as far
as Israel goes. But what was the one thing that
Republicans were heavily calling out during that It was the
Russia Ukraine War, and in specific it was about how
much money the United States was funding Ukraine and why
are we giving billions and billions and billions of dollars
to Ukraine. Now, there are a lot of Republican voters

(18:53):
that still identify strongly with America first. You know, that
is something that a lot of Republicans voters said, Look,
this is going to be my line in the sand.
We have to bring somebody back in office that is
here for us and not other countries. They're here for
us as American citizens, and like, let's start funding us,
Like let's start taking care of our veterans that are

(19:15):
homeless or the veterans that are killing themselves on an
everyday basis because of the wars that are a military
industrial complex and the neo cons gott essin. But yet
now a lot of these veterans are back. They suffer
from you know, all kinds of mental issues and physical issues.
I know many of them, and yet we don't give
a shit about them. We let them starve and be
on the streets and get on drugs. But instead what

(19:37):
we want to do is make sure the Israel's taken
care of and that Ukraine is being funded and all
this other stuff's going on. And then also the administration
now declaring, you know, as we said, the Epstein files
all a hoax. And at the same time they're condemning
anyone who positions America First in a way that's critical
of Israel or I guess you can say the established

(19:58):
US Israel axis as they say, right, And so this
could definitely shift the alienating base. This is going to
alienate the core base of who really got Trump in,
which is the America First base, And could voters who
came into gup because of the nationalist things now fill
the party is kind of pivoting away from that. Right,

(20:18):
they believe that this party stood for America First, and
now they believe that it is complete opposite.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, and there's a lot of Libertarians that actually voted
for Trump during the last election, and you know, I've
actually had some arguments with some of them, and you know,
they befriended me because of it, and They're like, I would,
you know, I have nightmares about this now that I
actually voted for this man, and look at what he's doing,

(20:44):
you know, but I am still on the stance where
he's not done. Like all bad things, we forget about
the good things he's done.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean no, I mean, like I said,
I mean Trump has done some good things for sure. Right,
I'm just trying to, you know, I want to make
sure that everybody understands like why and what happened last
night and why twenty twenty six could be worse. I mean,
it could be really bad if the Democrats take over
the House and the Senate, which based on last night,

(21:13):
there are a lot of political experts, and I know
I hate to use that expert word, but people that
are not necessarily biased to one party or the other
that has come out and said, including Republicans, that say
that based on last night, if something doesn't drastically change
before twenty twenty six, we're going to have a real problem, Right,
We're going to have a real problem in twenty twenty

(21:33):
six to where Trump will lose the House and the
Senate and it doesn't really matter then at that point,
what Trump wants to accomplish in his next three years, it'll.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Be yeh, he'll get He'll be a wash. He won't
get anything done.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, any won't. And this happens all the time in
Yes politics for sure. So you know, I think last
night's results were essentially a wake up call. Right, voters
were telling us loud and clear that they cared about
the cost of groceries, rent, inflation, but also they cared
about America first. Right, they cared about not taking in
and sending all of our money to Israel, not busting

(22:06):
our ass and sending all our money to Ukraine, the
same things the Republicans had talked about for a while.
And so that's kind of how the messaging has shifted,
and they've they've kind of started to say, look, it's
not necessarily America first unless you're Israel first also, and
that is a problem with a lot of people. Now
if you remember, like the America First crowd used to
say that we're exposing the elite, we're breaking the deep

(22:26):
state cover ups, saying we're going to bring power back
to the people. And then at the same time you
had themes like exposing Epstein, exposing networks of pedophilia. And
then fast forward obviously to now we're seeing obviously the hoax.
We're seeing complete loyalty and even literally condemning your own
voters for criticizing Israel. And then at the very same

(22:49):
time they're talking about like, hey, this America first thing.
You know, it wasn't as important to us as you
thought it was. Guys. I mean, you know we're here
now and we can't not like, you know, condemn you
for you know, criticize in Israel. We're gonna call you
anti semitic. Same way, by the way that the left
used to say that if you were against the movement

(23:11):
of Black Lives Matter burning down cities, that you are
a racist, Right, it's the same thing. You're anti Semitic
if you criticize the nation of Israel. We're not talking
about Jews, we're not talking about because you were born
a person of Jewish descent, that that's who people are criticizing.
Some are probably right, some of the anti Semites, and
I know Nick foint has has done that before, but

(23:33):
we're specifically talking about the nation of Israel. Right, So
obviously there's this tension the identity that mobilizes a base.
It kind of feels betrayed or sidelined. Right, And the
party is still Republican. I mean, it is still Trump led,
but the flavor is just not the same. It's not
the same maga. It's not the same thing that people

(23:53):
I think voted for.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Well, I think the whole thing is that MAGA is
divided right now. Yeah, people are seeing this everywhere, and
when they're seeing things are not going down as quickly
as what they hoped it would, like the prices. And
Trump said, you know, on day one, I'm going to
stop all these wars. Well he didn't stop it on
day one. He thought he could, especially the Russian Ukraine War.

(24:17):
He thought he could get a deal done the first day.
I believed he could. But I mean here we are
almost a year later and that war still going on.
That is part of the problem. And like you said,
there is a huge divide among the party. And then
I think about, Okay, now we're going to the extreme
and we're voting in socialists that are democrats. What's going

(24:41):
to happen to the socialist money when it runs out?
When our tax money runs out? Now, where they canna
get the money?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Well, it's just the same thing right. It's the same
thing as like ma'am Dommy, ma'am Donnie last night when
he was saying how they're going to do free travel, basically,
free buses, faster buses, free healthcare, we're gonna stabilize or
Pau's rent. We're gonna do all these things. Money does
not grow on trees exactly, So he's got to get

(25:11):
it from somewhere, right, That's that's the obvious thing, And
he didn't mention how he was going to get the money.
He also talked about in his speech how he wants
to essentially take down the people like Donald Trump, the
people that were able to build wealth and business in
New York City. He basically said in the speech that
we want to stop the next Donald Trump's from existing,

(25:32):
meaning that we want to stop or in capitalism, we
want to stop the businesses in New York City from
being a bigger business, from growing, from expanding, from making
people rich at the top. That's what he wants to stop.
And so although you know a lot of people are saying, hey,
you know, everybody, all these businesses are going to move
out of New York and they are a lot of

(25:52):
businesses I believe will move out of New York. But
I also think there's going to be a lot of
people that move into New York. Now, are are those
people going to be good people?

Speaker 6 (26:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Probably not. And so then they're going to be left
with a New York City without big business, without an
economy that's flourishing, and they're going to have a shithole
in crime.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I think it's going to run it down. It's going
to run it down. And it was so funny because
I saw a post today and it was like a
fake Donald Trump post or whatever, but it was still
funny because after the elections last night, they're like, listen,
these states are full. North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida. If
you want to move from New York City, you need

(26:30):
to go back to California.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah right, well, hell, I mean North Carolina's full Democrats,
a lot of them.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
South Carolina has not as much. Florida's probably going to
be full. I mean, eventually Florida's going to be a
Democrat state. They keep screwing up New York and all that,
Florida will be a Democrat state and then eventually they'll
vote for the same bullshit that.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
But a lot of people are going to start moving
from New York City. Now, oh sure, well, I mean
you look at what's happening even in Austin, Texas. You know,
especially after Joe Rogan left and other comedians and actors left.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Some of those people went to Austin. Some of those
people went to Nashville. And so you're what you're starting
to see in Austin, Texas is that everything's going blue,
everything's being voted blue. And so as Austin, Texas used
to be one of the greatest cities in America. It
was the country music capital. It was where instead of Nashville,
if you actually wanted to go for foundational American heritage,

(27:18):
especially in the country western kind of genre, or just
that that entire lineage of history in America, Austin, Texas
was the place to go. And now it's just so
full of people from California that everything's being everything's being
blue washed, I guess you can say. And so you're
you're having an all time high in homelessness, you're having
more crime, you're having a city that's unsafe, and eventually

(27:41):
it will likely get to another Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
But do you not think too like within states with
when you immigrate from one state to another that you
should kind of assimilate with the politics there.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well you should, but you don't have.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
But that's not what's happening. They're changing the politics in
different states by people move the end of the states.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, it's because they're morons, right, I mean, it's literally
because they're stupid.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
They're like, oh, I gotta leave California. F this place,
it's bad. I mean, they look around them and there's
homeless people everywhere. There's people on drugs that are literally
bending over like zombies. I mean. And then even in
those cases, like when someone gets shot or killed or
mugged or whatever, cops show up an hour later, if
they show up, and then they go to somewhere else
and they're like, you know what, I'm voting Democrat. I

(28:27):
love what this guy's saying. And then a year or
two or three later, they're like, how the hell did
Austin get this bad? I want to move to Florida.
And then Florida three years later gets to be a shithole,
and it's like these people don't get it right now. Unfortunately,
I hate this because look, I want to make something
very clear, because I know that a lot of our

(28:49):
listeners are, you know, conservative Republican as I have been
most of my life, and I at this point, I
don't know what I am, to be honest, I definitely
know I'm I'm not a Democrat. I know my core
foundational conservative beliefs and values are still that of a
conservative what I would have voted for fifteen years ago.
But with the exception of that fifteen years ago, I

(29:12):
wasn't wise to things like neo cons and foreign wars
and military industrial complex and all the things that we
see of how corrupt there are or there is a
corruption in the Republican party, right. But I'm just saying
just the very core foundational things. There are certain things
I align with more on the conservative side than I
do the left right. And there's a lot of things

(29:33):
obviously on the extreme left that I one hunt like
pretty much everything on the extreme left I disagree with
the extreme right. I guess is funny because you're technically
extreme right now if you are critical of Israel, or
you believe that the Epstein file should be released, because
we want to know actually who Jeffrey Epstein, which was

(29:54):
likely an agent with intelligence, whether it's masad ci or Bo.
You're considered extreme.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, and I mean people would say you're teeter tottering.
Teeter tottering? Is that a word on the anti Semitic side, Chad.
I mean a lot of people might call you that.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Because yes, yeah, I'm sure, well I don't care what
they call me.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
But I think a lot of people would call you
that because.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Even though I'm married to to one.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Well, you don't ever admit that one. We're arguing, I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Gonna I'm gonna actually, you know what, Actually I'm getting
a divorce. Actually no, no, I think about it. I'm
getting damned before. That reminds me. That reminds me. And
I'm gonna say this briefly, but if you guys have
not seen the Dave Chappelle skit about the black guy, Oh.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, that blind he was blind or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
He was blind and then he was married, but he
was in the KKK. He didn't realize that he was blind,
and then one day that he they took his mask
off and they're like, what, you're black, And then they
find out that he was. And then he finds out
he's married to a white wife, and then he kills
her because she is a anyways, that's kind of what
it reminds me of, right, Yeah, so that was a

(31:03):
hilarious skit. But either way, I don't care what people
call me. The reality of what it is is that
this is not about Judaism, This is not about the
religion of people that are Jewish. This is literally about
what I believe Israel to be politically. Right now. Is
a wolf in sheep's clothing and I talk about sheep,

(31:25):
maybe I should say Lamb, right. I believe the israel
political faction, the government of Israel, is a wolf in
Lamb's clothing. And I say Lamb because it's Biblical. And
I believe that they want the world to believe that
they can basically do and get away with anything because
they are the quote unquote chosen. And so what I

(31:49):
do want to go ahead and announce right now, although
I thought about doing it in this episode, is probably
going to be a standalone episode and maybe the next
one actually, and i'd actually confide it. And some people
that are you know, people that are kind of in
the Christian space, like big time in the Christian space.
They do a lot of that stuff. They're on TV.
They've done all this stuff I've kind of confided in

(32:10):
some of those people. I've just been reaching out to
different ones and you guys probably know who you are.
Some of you listen to us, some of you do not,
And I've just got all their opinions. And then also
I've been doing a ton.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Of research and they are very mixed opinions.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Let me say, yeah, absolutely, But you know, but some
of those people that I reached out to that they
would never say this. They would never say any of
that stuff in public, right, So whether or not they
disagree with the way that the Republican Party stance with
Israel is and kind of how all that is, even
if they disagree. As a Christian in America today, you're

(32:42):
not allowed to say that. Most pastors that you see,
and especially most big pastors that are making the millions
and they're racking in all this money, they will never
ever tell you any truth about what the Bible actually
says about Israel and the way that Christians are supposed
to I guess, look at Israel, look at the Jews,
look at all that stuff. But the next episode, we're

(33:04):
going to talk about it. And I thought about talking
about on this episode. I was like, no, we're going
to get through a lot of what we're what we're
going to talk about.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
About, Thank you God. And I probably will not be
on that next episode episode when we do that, because
you know, it's just too much for me.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, well, it's all good. All I'm going to do
basically is read out of the Bible and kind of
discuss it. And so if you're not, I'll bring someone
on this.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Fine.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh, And I don't. I'm not upset about that, but
I did want to quickly read this text from Dave Smith. Now,
Dave Smith obviously just recently had Tucker Carlson on and
Dave Smith is also, by the way, a Jew. I
don't know if anybody realizes this, but Dave Smith is Jewish,
and yet they call him anti Semitic, and so I

(33:48):
think that is kind of mind blowing. And also, if
you guys.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Don't excuse me, I'm sorry, George Soros is Jewish. Yeah,
and he goes against Jewish people all the time.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
How does he do that? Well, he never goes against
Jewish people, Yes he does. Well, I mean he's a globalist,
he's one of the biggest globalists in the world. But
I mean it's not like he's anti Israel. He's certainly not.
I mean, you got to think Rothschild's are the one
that created Israel.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
So he has helped with all the propaganda with Gaza
and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, well, I mean it's it's probably to fund him
some way, in some way, some shape or form or fashion.
I mean he has obviously contruded some of the I
guess protests. But you also got to think something I said,
you know, a month or two back, like I thought
about that heavily, about all these protests that were anti
Semitic protest on college campuses, Columbia, Harvard, all these places,

(34:39):
and I was like, is there really that many people
that are just randomly anti Semitic all of a sudden
like that, that that are showing up in hamas headgear
and flags and all this stuff. Is there really that
many people? And if these people are funded by George Soros,
why would why would a Jew be funding pro harmas
protests and yus It is to get everyone against Tomas. Oh,

(35:04):
reverse psychology, that's what they do. Maybe, but it didn't work.
Well no, well it did work. It worked for a
lot of people. It just didn't work for some people,
and now they want to destroy those people's lives. And
so that's what we'll get into. So Dave Smith recently said,
he said a year ago Donald Trump had seemingly accomplished
the impossible. He had pulled off the greatest political comeback

(35:26):
in US history. And what was even more impressive and
seemingly impossible, he won the culture and the youth. The
Democrats were completely discredited after years of lies and destruction,
Donald Trump came into office with record higher approval ratings,
both for him personally and for his agenda. Wokeism and
progressivism had been defeated, and a New America First coalition

(35:48):
seemed unbeatable. Last night, the Democrats had a great night.
This comes after weeks of MAGA being in a full
political civil war. Trump currently has his lowest approval ratings ever.
He's about as popular as George W. Bush. After two
disastrous wars and an economic crash, The youth has abandoned him,
and many of the left wokes activists are reasserting their

(36:11):
control over the culture now under the promise of socialism.
How did this all happen? How did this administration blow
such an incredible opportunity to roll back the destructive forces
that threaten this nation's very survival. Ask yourself, honestly, no
matter where you come from, down on this issue, what
is this all about? What is the MAGA coalition arguing about?

(36:32):
Why have the youth abandoned Trump? Why do cultural giants
like Joe Rogan, Theovon, Andrew Schultz and a bunch of
gen Z streamers with ten million followers all speak poorly
about Trump today when they were doing the Trump Dance
last year. The answer all that is ISRAELI says, like
it or not, that's the truth. Instead of America first,
we got Israel first. If Maggi is serious about avoiding

(36:55):
President AOC, if they actually see that as a threat
that like I do, then we must embrace Tucker Carlson's
visions that he laid out on My show, be the
first America First movement, or we can follow Mark Levin's
plan of canceling all of the most popular voices and
running on the most discredited, unpopular neo con wars. Your choice, MAGA,

(37:18):
And if you want to know what Mark Levin said,
or should we play Mark Levin? Or should we say
what Tucker said the other night? Let's let's play Mark Levin.
Let's play what old Mark Levin had to say. Now,
if you don't know, if you guys don't know who
Mark Levin is, Mark Levin is Life, Liberty and Levin.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, he's on Sunday Night on Fox News.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, he's on every Sunday.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
He sits right in your face, literally, like right in
your face if you're if you have your TV on,
Like for some reason, they put the camera literally right
in his face. So you know, I think he's got
a little bit of baldness, or maybe a lot of baldness. Yeah,
he's got a lot of baldness. But you can always tell,
like if they don't powder him enough, because then you know,
you have to wear sunglasses the white the show. But anyways,

(38:02):
this is what Mark Levin had to say at the
Republican Jewish Coalition. And this is specifically about people like
Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Nick Quintes and the likes.

Speaker 8 (38:13):
Listen, months, I've been fighting these bastards, whether it's Tucker
Carlson or whether it's Nick fawent this and I've been
looking over my shoulder looking for help, and you know,
I found nothing.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Nothing.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
We're here today to do something about this. What do
you mean we don't cancel people. We canceled David Duke,
Donald Trump canceled David Duke. We canceled Pap Buchanan. We
canceled the John Birch Society. We canceled Joseph Sobrin, We

(38:54):
canceled pornography on TV. We canceled stuff all the damn time.
Hitler admirers, Stalin admirers, Jew haters, American haters, Churchill haters.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You're damn right. We're going to.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
Cancel them and deep platform them. It's called the market system.
They don't have a lifetime job like a bureaucrat who
we're going to protect. And if they're your friend, there's
something wrong with you. No Hitler admirer, Holocaust denier, platformer
should be anybody's friend. As a matter of fact, you

(39:34):
don't get to rap your psyche.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
By the way, did he just say that we're going
to protect bureaucrats? I mean, is that literally not what he.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Just said Republicans were going after?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I mean, I'm pretty positive that's what he said. I mean,
I could be hearing him differently than what he's saying,
or he just doesn't understand what the hell he's exactly saying,
But either way, I'm pretty positive that's what he said.
We'll listen to more.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
You don't get to rap your psychotic, mental, unhinged Nazi
clan Jihadis bullshit around American patriotism. You don't get to
claim your MAGA and America first. When you're lining up

(40:19):
with a Marxist and the Islamis and Hamas and the terrorists,
the cowards, we're surrounded.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
And I want to say this. You know, he's he's
sitting here talking about patriotism in America first, but yet
he's literally his entire speeches against anti Semitism, anti Israel,
and he's saying that these people like Tucker Cross and
Ian Carroll, Nick Fintes, probably us, whoever else or US.
I say me, you know, you're acting like we're aligning

(40:47):
with Hamas or or Isis or some other shit. No,
we disavow those people too, like we disavow people that
are murderers and killers and genociders and all that, like
we would we would align against those people and do
in every shape, form or fashion. And that's why we
don't want war in Russian and Ukraine. Because we don't

(41:08):
want Russians to die. We don't you want Ukrainians to die,
We don't want Palestinians to die, and we don't want
Jewish Israelis to die. Right, this is this is a thing,
you know, it's this is not about aligning with a
certain group of people. This is about not wanting bloodshed,
especially on civilians, just the way that we condemned October

(41:29):
seventh when it happened, we condemn, I condemn Israel's response
and the likely potentially we don't know for sure, but
I think when this thing's all said and done, we
could be talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of people dead, if not millions, when this whole
thing's over. And yet we talk about the Holocaust. We

(41:51):
talk about that all the time, and you know, he's
literally talking about Holocaust deniers right here. But like, what
is history going to look back on Israel on this time?
You know where you read the history books, if the
history books are accurate, right, that's the thing, like twenty
years from now, depending on how this America first thing goes,
is whether or not the history books will actually be
accurate or not. And what is the history books going

(42:13):
to say, well, it's going to say, okay, well Hammas,
this shitty, terroristic faction of horrible leaders in Palestine went
in killed twelve hundred Jews or people that are living Israel. Yeah,
with some Christians probably, I don't know. But then you
also have the other side of the story where thirty

(42:36):
years from now we might find out that Israel killed
seventy thousand or I mean seven hundred thousand people or
a million. So how is that going to look unless
you just you know, whitewashed in numbers or kind of
look over those numbers. The problem is is that this
is the reality. When October seventh happened, everybody was like, look,
this is bad. We don't want this to happen. Is

(42:57):
the response that woke up asleep and giant for Israel
and especially in.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
The United But I want to ask you a question
about what he's saying. He's like, of course, we'll cancel
this person in that person in this person. Was that
not what Republicans were standing on. Is freedom a speech
and not being canceled. Absolutely, And now he's saying that
we're going to cancel anybody that doesn't agree with us. Yeah,
for sure, that is a major problem.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, but that's what they want to do right now.
You know, the the Israel First, the Israel First movement,
the APAC movement, the Republican Coalition with Israel or Jews
or whatever that thing is. They are attempting to take
over MAGA. They're tempting, it seems like almost to take
over America. But I don't know. But they're attempting at
the very least to take over the power structure that

(43:42):
is in America today right now. And I can't help
but think that they already have. And you know, even
looking at the way Trump like acts around Benjaminett Yahoo
when he's in the office or when he's in the
White House, all that stuff. There's a lot of weird
stuff going on. But there's just a few more and
us of Mark Levin, and then I do you know,
just because Nick fuinntest did respond to this, I will

(44:04):
let Nick Quinn test respond to to what Mark Levin said.
I'm playing both cases, guys.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, all right, here we go, like cowards who have
microphones of TV cameras, who have websites of columns.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Cowards.

Speaker 8 (44:23):
It's spelled c A R L S O n. It's
spelled f u e n t e S. It's spelled
O w e n S. It's spelled b A n
N O n it's spelled Marjorie Trader Green. You can

(44:43):
figure that out yourself. And they're not alone. How are
we going to attack them on Dammies and the tay
Leaves and the Omars and the Sanders and the rest
of them when in our own house this poisonous spread.
We've got to take care of business. We can fight

(45:04):
the enemy on the other side. But the problem is,
the more daunting problem, the more complicated problem, is when
they're in our house.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, Mark Levin, you're right, but they're in our house obviously,
not your house. They're in our house, which is America,
not Israel. This America. They are in our house. And yes,
we do need to deal with people like the man
Damis and the Teleibes and the AOC's and all those people.
But the reason why we want to deal with those
people is not because of Israel. It's because of America.

(45:36):
It's because of our patriotism, it's because of our constitution,
and it's because of the men and women in our military.
Throughout from seventeen seventy six on that fought for our
country to establish America, not Israel. Okay, So that's what
I want you to understand. And these people out there
that are like, hey, you know what, I'm done with
the Israel, this and that and Ukraine and Russia. I mean,

(45:58):
it's not just Israel, Crane, Russia, it's everything else. We're
involved in everything else we send our money to. There's
a reason why that when Elon Musk went and ran
Doge and found out all of the money that was
being siphoned and basically stolen from the American people to
fund all this crazy democratic ideological bullshit around the world,

(46:23):
that America was like, yeah, get rid of that shit.
That's not even our country. What in the hell are
they doing. Everybody was cool with that, except for Democrats
because they're like, no, we definitely have to figure out
how mice could be trans Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
We got to have Sesame straight that talks about that
in different countries. But to me, what's going on with
his speech is division, more and more division between parties.
That is not a way I would have gone about
the speech like he is going, because it's almost like
we have to attack, we have to go to war
with the Democrats right now. We have to do this

(46:57):
instead of coming up with a plan much better nobody.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
No, he don't even want to go to war with Democrats.
He wants to get to war with Republicans.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, it's Republicans and Democrats. But he's like, we got
to go to war with all these people. They're either
with us or they're against us. There's no in between,
there's no coming together, there's no like dividing the lines
and intertwining the lines to maybe come up with something
that we all can agree together. This is a fight
against this person or that person, and that's it. And

(47:28):
I think like with Madami his speech last night, it
was more in the in the context like we want
to help all people, because he even said in his speech,
you know, I'm against anti Semites. I'm against that, Yeah,
I mean he was against people that are against Islam

(47:48):
or Jewish people or all of them. Like he put
everyone into a category where Mark Lavine is just going
crazy against one side or another.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
But it's mostly Republicans, and it's mostly Republicans that criticize Israel,
and he's calling them all anti Semites. That's the problem, right,
All Right, so I didn't want to play a quick
clip of Nick Quinta's I'll decide if I want to
play his actual full thing about Mark Levin. But either way,
this is a short clip.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Of a little bit pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Though it is pretty funny, but I will at least
play this clip of what Nick quint has said just
about the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting, and he specifically kind
of references Mark Levin in this piece.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
Listen, I want to talk about this Republican Jewish Coalition
summit which was held in Las Vegas this weekend.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
What the hell is even that? And go ahead and
watch some of the clips. It's all.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
It's all the most popular conservatives in America, all the
most beloved popular conservatives like Randy Fine, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin,
Ted Cruz, and I don't think there's any way to
describe it other than a declaration of war.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
This was a.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
Psycho, unhinged, lunatic like, truly delusional declaration of war by
the Israel lobby against not just America first, but America.
And I promise you go watch Mark Levin's speech and
tell me that that's not what it is. Watch what

(49:30):
Mark Levin specifically said in his speech at the RJAC,
but also in his follow up interview, I think it's
with the JNS or one of these Jewish media outlets.
He did a follow up interview which was published I
think either last night or today. It was literally a
declaration of war. And this is the group. The group

(49:53):
is the Republican Jewish Coalition. That's what they're called. I'm
not making that up. That's not an anti Semitic tri
that's their name. And they held a summit and it
was all about anti Semitism and Israel and Jewish people
being under attack by the right and the left on
all sides. And it was a declaration of war against America. First, seething, raging, unhaned, emotional.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, so there you go. That's what Nick Quinn says.
That was the nice response I guess that he had
made about Mark Levin and the Republican But I do have.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
To say that since all of this has happened since
October seventh, there has been a lot of people that
now hate Israel on both sides. Yeah, And I talked
about that on the podcast the last podcast. I think
I think it's both sides that now hate Israel, and
you know, it's not the people of Israel. Is the

(50:50):
government of Israel that they hate. And we've got to
remember that, just like you know Hamas well, Hamas is
the government of Palestine in a way, it's a thing
we hate them as well. But what about the people
there that live there? You know, we don't necessarily hate
those people. And so we're attacking leaders, but in the

(51:10):
same time we're attacking the people of these countries.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, absolutely, no, I agree. And you know it's innocent
civilians no matter how you look at it. You know,
you know, the number one foundational core belief and value
of the Bibles talks about innocence, you know, and innocence
is everything in the Bible, you know, throughout the Bible.
And if the way that Israel, in my opinion, has

(51:37):
betrayed or has portrayed that people Palestine is essentially saying
it doesn't matter if you're a kid, if you're an
eight year old, six year old, ten year old, or
twenty year old, you're a Palestinian. You're a part of that,
and we need to get rid of you. I mean,
that's what literally, according to history books, that Hitler and

(52:01):
the likes of Hitler and Stalin and whoever. That was
what they wanted rights. They wanted to get rid of Jews,
is what the history books say. They wanted to eliminate
the Jews, right, and so in a lot of ways,
the way we have heard talk about Palestine is the
zact same way. It's the exact same message. They just

(52:23):
have to come up with a excuse to genocide a
certain amount of people. Right, as long as we can
just get people on board enough to make people believe
that Palestinians are all terrorists, then we can destroy every
one of them. We can exterminate them. That's what Hitler did.
That's what Hitler did. That is literally what Hitler did
to the Jews. He found a way to get at

(52:45):
least some type of populous opinion against the Jews to exterminate.
And you know, there's definitely conspiracies, and not just even conspiracies,
but there's a lot of stuff about the Holocaust that
are not that is not accurate. I don't believe I'm
not a Holocaust denier, but I'm just saying, like numbers
wise and some of this stuff. There are things that

(53:06):
you guys can look into for yourself. I'm not I
don't care necessarily about that conspiracy. You guys can look
into it yourself, or if you have information, let me know.
But I do know like looking into it, there is
some weird discrepancies there. But either way, the message and
the point I'm trying to make about this is that
you know, if Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews the way

(53:27):
that he did, which is how he did, how did
you do it?

Speaker 9 (53:30):
Well?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
He made an excuse, he made these things up. He
figured out a way to say, hey, here's what happened,
here's why we need to do this, and you got
a lot of people on board with that, just like
you know, the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, the soldiers
that are now going in shooting innocent people. We've seen
videos of this. You know, they are people that shoot

(53:51):
innocent civilians. Because you're IDF and because you are an
Israeli soldier are no different than Gustapo's and the soldiers
under Hitler. And by the way, a lot of a
lot of the initial killings of Jews in the Hitler
days was not even military. Did you know that? It

(54:12):
was mostly law enforcement? The law enforcement under Germany was
the main ones that were executing Jews.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
They are the ones going in getting the people out
of that, and a lot of them were any of
them in concentration camps. So anybody that is a denier
of the Holocaust, like, they're not my friend, because I
believe a whole heart. I mean that happened, and I'm
going to say my relatives were in and they died
during that time.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, I er, I get that. I'm literally making a
point to say that, Like, you know, that's in similar
ways the same thing that Israel looks about the Palestinian people. Now,
you can make excuses to kill civilians all you want,
but in the end, there's still civilians and they're still innocent.
And so I did want to play this quick clib
Lindsey Graham, our old South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, which

(55:01):
I have not liked ever. I don't know if you
guys have listened to our podcast for any amount of time.
Never liked this guy. There is someone running against him.
I think his name is Mark Lynch, and I think
that if you guys can help us in South Carolina
spread the message to get this dumb ass out of
out of the Senate and get Mark Lynchin. Mark Lynch,
I believe is from Greenville County, South Carolina, which is

(55:24):
not far from us, and I know he is the
opposer of Lindsey Graham, and so I would love to
get Lindsey Graham out. I don't know if you guys
remember like some of the Trump rallies that he had,
like leading up to the twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Four tin against Trump as well.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Well listen, but what I'm saying is that the Trump
rallies where Trump would come to South Carolina and he
would do things like in Anderson or Columbia, and every
time that Trump would bring Lindsey Graham up, everyone day him.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I just don't think there's any way that Lindsey Graham
can make it through this election cycle on twenty six
less there's some cheating going on.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I don't know, because they boot him the last time
and he still was elected.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Well, that makes no sense to me. But you know,
this is just Lindsey Graham telling Republicans at the Jewish
Coalition not to worry about Tucker Cross and Nick Fintest.
And you'll have to see why. But it's not even
the fact that he says not to worry about him.
It's some particular what he says here that just infuriated
me when I heard it, and it might probably you
as well. Also keep it in mind that Lindsey Graham

(56:26):
is a warhawk. He is heavily funded by the military
industrial complex, the companies actually make weapons. He is one
of their talking heads. He's the guy that goes out
and tries to influence and make sure people understand that
we need war. We need to kill people. You know,
that's what we got to do. Guys, we're America. And
so this is something he said at the Republican Jewish Coalition.

Speaker 10 (56:50):
Recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Why because if you
got a problem with that, take it up with God.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
He's the guy did it, not Trump. So I just
want to say I.

Speaker 10 (57:03):
Feel good about the Republican Party. I feel good about
where we're going as a nation. We're killing all the
right people or cutting your taxes.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
We're killing all the right people and cutting your taxes.
And he sounds drunk.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah he does. You're exactly right. Now, You're exactly right.
I thought the exact same thing. I was like, this
dude's drunk. But literally comes on there and says we're
killing all the right people.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I mean, come on, who else do you want us
to kill?

Speaker 8 (57:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Oh, Tuck Crossing. We'll kill him next if you wanted to.
I think I think he is the right people too. Literally,
this is Lindsey Graham. We are killing all the right people?
Are you talking about civilians in Gaza? Is those people?
I mean, I can maybe understand UMAs right or whatever
or isis or whoever, but like you know, one hundred

(57:52):
thousand people in Palestine, that's the right people because of
what they're Palestinian bullshit. I'm sorry. This is where I
do not get. We have two shits about what Republicans, conservatives, democrats.
I don't care who thinks of whatever I think about that,
it's never right to kill innocent civilians. And I'll be honest, like,
we've actually got reached out by quite a few people

(58:14):
in Gaza. There's one guy named Gazza jimbro I've had
a conversation with back and forth on Instagram, and he'd
actually went on originally on the Bradley Martin podcast, right
and which I do encourage you guys to go listen
to Bradley Martin. Gaza Jimbro on YouTube. I want you
to go watch that podcast and if you do comment,
tell him to investigator scene. But go listen to that

(58:36):
podcast because the Gaza Jim Bro, you know, he's basically
a dude in Gaza. He's a Palestinian obviously that you know.
He admired Bradley Martin, which for those that don't know
who Bradley Martin is, he's like this huge influencer that
is in the U I guess fitness space. He's like
a bodybuilder, massive guy. And so Bradley Martin had brought
him on the podcast about probably five months ago, four

(58:59):
months ago, and if you just listen to that episode
where he comes on and he talks about his daily life,
he talks about him as a Palestinian, as a person
of Gaza, as Jim Bro just like so many other people.
But the but the very, the very things he said
about like we're people just like you guys, Like we

(59:20):
have aspirations, we have dreams, we have hopes, we have feelings.
We you know, when we lose family members and we
see them blown up everywhere like that kills us, you know,
and when we have nowhere to go, you know, and
we literally are intense and have water in jugs, and
then when we try to go to the supply drops,
we're shot at. You know, it's you know, listen to

(59:42):
episodes like that, like quit just thinking one side or
the other. You have to think about reality. And that's
something I promise you guys that I will never I
will never do is just blindly follow anybody or anything.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Well, I'm going to say a point against myself is
you know, as far as the food drops and stuff,
it was interesting when they had the peace agreement between
Palestine and Israel, they're like, Okay, after this agreement, they're
going to cease fire and they're going to actually let
the food trucks come in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah did you catch this?

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Oh yeah, wow, Well they're actually going to let the
food trucks come in. Why didn't they do that during
the war.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
No, that's been a blockade the entire time. It's been
a blockade. And then and then when people started to
find out about it, they're like, well, oh, Hamas has
taken all the food. That's not true. And then even
the gods of jimbro on Bradley Martin's podcast when he said, well,
we have these air drops that will come over every
once in a while, I guess from the United States
or NATO or whoever. They'll drop the the you know,
these things down and he says, we never go there.

(01:00:45):
He said, the reason why we can't go there is
because every time we do it is the IDF shooting
at us. It's almost like they're using it as bait
to lure us in to kill us. So they know
they can't go anywhere near it. And so this is
what I'm saying, is like we're as America, like we're
supporting this, we are sending our taxpayer dollars to go
and genocide a entire group of people. I don't give

(01:01:06):
a shit how you want to look at it. October
seventh happened, Yes, But to continue to say that, what
two years later.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
Is it now?

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Well, and even if we have to say, like okay, listen,
they think all these people are brainwashed, they hate Jewish people,
they hate Israel, and they want to kill people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
In Israel, which not all of them do, but ahead a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Lot of them say they're indoctrinated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Well, I would say, yeah, well, okay, that's the same
thing as saying well, because there are democrats in the
United states, We like, someone should just all those people
that we don't agree whether or hates the Republicans. Is
that right? No, of course it isn't right. I mean, yes,
I'm sure there are Palestinians that hate Jewish people because
that's the way they're raised, this way they're born. Are
there Jewish people that hate Palestinians? Obviously? I mean I

(01:01:51):
think that's pretty obviously. You can't, yeah, and you cannot
hate people and just destroy an entire place.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Right, And then I think there's people on the other side,
on both countries where you know, they don't hate each other. No, No,
they're trying to live, and you know, they want the
war to end.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Absolutely, And I would say that's probably seventy percent of
the people in both countries literally, I mean, I say
seventy percent of Palestinians. Even though after all this, you're
probably going to have even more people that hate Israel
in Palestine and that the whole region, You're going to
have more people that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Yeah. Could you think if you're a six year old
and you lost your whole entire family and you grew up,
you know, being an orphan basically and wondering why am
I an orphan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Now, yeah, and yet which you had no idea like
anything about Judaism or any of your six or you're ten,
or you're twelve, or you're even sixteen or you're twenty five,
and don't give a shit about politics or any of
this other stuff like that. That's seventy percent of people there.
And then you also got to think about the Christians
that are there. You know, there's a lot of Christians.
Just two weeks ago, Israel bonded a church that forty

(01:02:59):
six children died, and I think there was like one
hundred and forty people that died in a lot of
those are Christians.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
There is a lot of people that were working in
Israel that were from Asia. Yeah, that were taken hostage.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah, No, I look, I understand all that, right, we
get the hostage thing, we get that's bad, We get
all of that stuff. And we're not obviously saying that
Hamas is good. They're awful. They're terrorists. It seems like
obviously if you go into Israel and you do this,
you're a terrorist. Same thing we would classify any other

(01:03:34):
terrorist faction of people that did it anywhere. It doesn't
matter if it's Israel or somewhere else. That is what
it is. But it's also the same way as to
say that like what was happening now is not correct,
and also just the push on America. It's one thing
like if Israel is doing their thing over there, which
America still should in my opinion, America should step in.
They should have stepped in long ago before Israel completely

(01:03:55):
destroyed every single living thing damn near it in Gaza everything.
But I mean a lot what I was hoping that
the United States would be like, look, we understand they
attacked you. You guys went after a moss whatever, blah blah,
let's get the hostage back, but like, you got to
quit killing all these damned civilians. I mean that that
should obviously be a a at the very basis of

(01:04:17):
Christian foundational beliefs, not to kill inc people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Okay, but let's think about nine to eleven for a minute. Goods,
just think about nine to eleven for a minute. We
went as Americans and destroyed people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, because that that?

Speaker 12 (01:04:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Do I agree with that? I mean, look, here's the thing,
and if you ask a lot of military guys. Actually
I talked to him, my close friend about this the
other day. I've talked to many military guys, and most
of those guys are like not, you know, they're and
I want to speak for the military, but what I'm
saying is that there are some that believe that, like,
you know, there was a lot of shit that happened
over there that we should never have happened because of

(01:04:55):
nine to eleven. Like you know, if if you have
if you have terrorist quote unquote, if it's actually Islam
as terrorist.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
But just let's say it was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Okay, let's just say it, say it was, well, let's
just say it is. Though, yes, but that still doesn't
There were a lot of things that happened during that time,
even back to the guy that blew himself up supposedly
in Las Vegas in the cyber truck, which I think
they just finally released a report, which we may do
an episode on that. Someone sent us that the other day.
Really yeah, but you know, one of the things he

(01:05:24):
had talked about was missions over in Afghanistan and stuff
to where we were killing innocent civilians and didn't give
a shit, right, And that was one of the things
that he just like I could not live with. I
many soldiers could not live with that. I've talked to soldiers,
like it was really effed up in some cases what
we did the people over there that should have never
happened because of nine to eleven. Look, it's one thing

(01:05:44):
to go after isis or whoever, But then you also
even got to get into like was it really isis?
Like like who was really behind nine to eleven. There's
a lot of that stuff, and we know the government
has lied to us, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Yeah, they have about that, but there was also a
lot eleven year old's twelve year olds that had guns
under their little robes or whatever ready to shoot. Are military.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, I mean, so if you're iss, you're a if
you're a political faction or you're an authoritarian faction of
people in in Afghanistan, all you got all you got
to basically do is go to eleven year old and say,
hold this gun because someone's going to kill you. You're
going to make sure you have this gun. So that's
just a propaganda war at that point, right, And so
you have soldiers killing eleven and twelve year olds because
they have guns, which is like some of the worst

(01:06:29):
ship soldiers have to ever have done in the war.
And it's oftentimes because that you know, war's dirty, and
both sides fight very dirty and unfortunately. But I think
that is is far different even than what's happening right
now in Israel and Gaza. It's just different. I don't
think personally, I don't think the United States probably ever
came close to killing as many civilians in Afghanistan or

(01:06:51):
Iraq for that matter. I could be wrong, but I
don't think it's even close, at least from what we
know of what Israel has done in Gaza. But anyways,
I don't want to get all all the way into
the Israel thing, because we're going to talk about that
on a later episode. I want to play the rest
of what this lindsay, Warhawk Graham says, and then we'll
get to something else in just a moment.

Speaker 10 (01:07:14):
Trump is my favorite president. We've run out of bombs.
We didn't run out of bombs in World War Two.

Speaker 9 (01:07:23):
So as a coalition of Republicans, some Baptists, some Jewish,
we organize ourselves around principles that we love and we cherish.
We love individual freedom, we love entrepreneurship, we love capitalism,
we love Israel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, don't want to mess your principles up there. Lindsey
Graham because we love principles, right, and but right before
he's like, we kill the hell out of people. We're
run out of bombs. We got to get some more
bombs up here. Hey, he might have any bombs we need.
We need to go kill some more people. By the way,

(01:08:05):
next subject, principles. Let's talk about principles. We love killing people.
Got of mighty dude, and he's drunk as shit. He's
obviously drunk as shit like that. That's what's so bad.
And this is not even funny. It pisses me off.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
I know this is something we should be laughing about,
but oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I mean, I'm not even gonna play anymore on Lindsey
Graham because it really just pisses me on. I can't
even play anymore of Lindsay Gram. What I do want
to play, though, however, is the Tucker Carlson Dave Smith
first part of their interview, because this is Tucker Crosson
going on Dave Smith's podcast, probably five or six days

(01:08:48):
after Tucker Crosson had Nick Fuintes on the show. And
so when I had solved the podcast where Tucker Cralson
and Nick Fintes sat down and talked and I literally
watched the entirety of the episode and I was like,
and I was like, Okay, everybody's trying to cancel Tucker Cross,
And I was like, yeah, what the hell? Like I
don't understand Kance t well in some cases for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
I mean he's like, I don't agree with a lot
of views you have. That's what he was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Yeah, and you know, he was like, you know, look,
I don't I don't believe this about Jews or this
or whatever. And he challenged Nick Fintes on this stuff, right,
So it's not like he was just like, oh, anti Israel, antisemitic,
hate Israel, hate Jews. But the problem is is that
what they most hated is that Tucker crosson a huge

(01:09:37):
name like he is, brought someone like Nick Fuintes on
his show to even discuss and and even just relate
to more people. And that's what they could not stand
because look, I one percent do not agree with everything.
Well what I what I will say, I don't agree
with the way that Nick Fuintes says some things. But

(01:09:58):
you also have to remember Nick Fuintees is still a kid.
He really is twenty six. He is pretty likable, Yeah,
he's a likable dude, but he's twenty six years old.
I mean he's literally like instead of you hearing someone
like this dude on your game chat from like fifteen
or twenty years ago, like when I used to play
games on Halo two and you would get on the

(01:10:19):
game chat and you would put your headset on. Dude,
you would hear the worst of the worst shit about
your mom, your dad.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Oh it could be yeah, absolutely, like ten eleven, twelve
year olds, sometimes six year olds. It sounds like like
completely trash talking your mom, talking about how they're gonna
do all these things to her, your mom and just
crazy shit, right, But like Nick fun does this in
some little way, like he's kind of one of those
shit talkers that used to be on Xbox, which you
can't do it anymore because you get banned for like

(01:10:49):
having fun, because that used to be one of the
most fun things about playing games. It was just trash talking,
especially when you could kill them after all this shit,
like that was the funnest thing. But now it's like, oh,
we can't do this. It's just you know, there's there's
too many hurt feelings here. Someone might go and kill
themselves with like a real gun after this match, you
know what I mean. It's like we're a very soft

(01:11:11):
country now. But Nick Funt has in some ways it's
kind of like one of those people that you would
meet on these on these games that would just not
give a shit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Oh my god, could you imagine him like as a
ten year old playing these games.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I'm sure he was probably one of those. He
was probably one of those though, right, and so but
Nick Funt has he He definitely is I guess a
rage baitter to some degree. But and a lot of
that is because of his age. He has cleaned up
some of it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
One of the reasons why was Patrick bet David When
Patrick bet David said, look, I'm not going to have
you on the show until you quit saying the N word, right,
because like it just doesn't look good on you. It
doesn't like if if you are smart, you are talented,
but like you're just discrediting yourself by just using these
dumb ass like the things that you know everyone hates,
like why do it? And I understand Nick Fuinn has

(01:11:59):
the reason why is because you're Nick fun does. In
his mind, he's like, you're not gonna tell me what
not to say. But also at the same time, it's
rage baiting, and that's also part of the reason why
Nick fun Tess has got so big. He has used
these viral moments to where he just did not give
a shit. He said whatever you wanted to say. He
he called out every single faction of people known to man,

(01:12:21):
and they all went viral. And that's why he has
as big as he is because a lot of people,
regardless of whatever you think, there are people that have
their discontent with certain factions of people somewhere in them,
no matter what it is, whether it's women, men, children, blacks, whites, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, Christians, Catholics,

(01:12:42):
which that are saying but you know what I mean,
like not saying, but like someone has something about someone always.
And so what Nick fun Tes did was he basically
just called out everyone, and then everyone was able to
kind of come into something to where it's like, yeah,
I wish I could say that shit, even though they
don't necessarily mean some of the things, but it's like
it's just someone sees Nick fuinnt As as someone that

(01:13:03):
doesn't give a shit, and that's usually what really draws
people to someone like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Well, I think Nick Flintes is kind of like a
what's his name Andrew Tate. He's an Andrew Tait type person,
Like he doesn't give a shit what he says or
what he doesn't. He's going to bait.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
You, which is why Andrew Tate's so big.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Yeah, and you know, Andrew Tait and Nick Fointest, neither
one of them are like real true white guys. That's
what's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
To name Nick Fintest is a white dude.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
No mean not. I looked up his name. I made
you look up his name.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I know. But just because your name is from Spain
at some point in time or some shit, doesn't mean
you're not a white dude.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
He doesn't look like a total white dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Well either way, But anyways, I did want to play
I'm going to play this first part because this is
essentially Tucker cross and responding to all of the hate
that has been coming on him, especially after the Nick
Twintes interview. Dave Smith first starts talking and kind of
sets it up, and then Tucker Carlson gives his first
point of kind of I guess his first response to everything,

(01:14:07):
and then we'll stop it there, we'll break it down,
and then we'll talk about something that's probably the most
important part of this podcast. Listen without further ado.

Speaker 12 (01:14:17):
I could not There is literally no one I would
rather have as a guest on the show today, and
partially because there's basically no one I enjoyed talking to
more at all times, but particularly this week when there
has been this massive coordinated cancelation attempt. I've seen this
happen to other good friends of mine. I was right

(01:14:37):
around when Joe Rogan was going through this kind of
massive coordinated effort, but it did not feel nearly as
vicious or at least as close to inciting violence as
this one does. So of course we're welcoming to the show,
the great Tucker Carlson. How are you, Sara, Mike couldn't better.
Thanks for having me, Dave, Oh yeah, of course anytime.

(01:14:58):
Obviously you have an open invite onto this show. So
a lot's gone on over the last week or so,
and obviously it started you you had Nick Foines on
your show. I had just had Nick Foints on my
show a few weeks before that. But as has become custom,
you are you have become my human shield once again,

(01:15:19):
where all the all the outrages is generated toward you,
but all the deaths are still my fault, as the
human shield logic works.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
But so, there was this huge show that you did
with Nick Foyintes.

Speaker 12 (01:15:35):
Then Josh Hammer, as I covered on my last episode,
wrote this incredibly disgusting and creepy piece for the Daily
Mail about it, and then there was a big event
I believe it was genocide Fest twenty twenty five, where
the theme of the entire thing was that Tucker Carlson
is not MAGA, and in fact, there were calls to

(01:15:55):
cancel Tucker Carlson. And so I kind of want to
go through all of this as best we can and
respond to it. Let's start with the podcast that you
did with Nick foint Is, and maybe a little bit
about the one I did with him as well, because
I thought there were similarities between the two. And one
of the things that I just find very interesting about

(01:16:16):
this is that all of the neocon zionists are insisting
that you didn't see what you saw on that show,
that something else happened, that what happened on this podcast
was Tucker agreed with all things Nazism, or something like that,
when in fact, for anybody who did watch the show,

(01:16:38):
what you actually heard was Tucker Carlson tell Nick Flints
and the world that it is against his religion to
hate Jewish people, or any group of people for that matter.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And so it's just there.

Speaker 12 (01:16:50):
Is something so I don't know, it's just this crazy
world we live in, but there's something so still to
this day startling about watching someone go and my deeply
held religious views are that I can't hate Jewish people.
And then the response is, look a jew hater.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
It's so bizarre, well right, and it scrambles the literal brain.
And I am literal. I'm a writer, so I believe
in words and their meaning, and I think they have
nuanced but basically fixed meanings. And so to see someone
lie or speak in a way this dishonest but totally
unmoored from physical reality is always bewildering. And you're like,
but no, that's not I said the opposite, right, and

(01:17:31):
you realize, of course, it's not about you or what
you said. It's about something bigger. And there are a
couple of things, I mean, the most obvious on a
political level, this is a fight over what happens after
Donald Trump? What does the Republican Party look like. Does
it actually adopt an America First foreign policy as promised
ten years ago, or does it maintain its neo conservative posture,
which is very unpopular with the public and has borne

(01:17:54):
no fruit. I mean, it's been a disaster on every
level for the United States for you know, since nine
eleven at least. But what happens after Trump goes? And
that's what this is about. That's why they're vesting the
energy in this. That's what the rage is about, because
they don't want to lose control of foreign policy. I
just can't say that enough. It's about foreign policy. They
don't care about domestic politic because the don't care about

(01:18:14):
the United States, But they do care about the US
Treasury and the Pentagon, the projection of fourth on behalf
of Israel, and so that's what they're arguing about. And
again that's a very unpopular position with the public, which
is why they don't say it out loud. My position
has always been I don't have it. I'm not ashamed
of my views. I'm happy to talk about my views

(01:18:36):
with anybody. I don't think I have any reason to
be ashamed of my views. I think they're actually kind
of moderate. Honestly, they're different from the way things are
operating now. And of course, I mean I disagree with
the direction the US governments taking in a whole bunch
of different ways, but I don't think we should burn
the US government down. My view, which I know is
yours as well, is the US governmental act on behalf
of American citizens America First doesn't mean a bellicose postures

(01:19:00):
attack people. In fact, it probably means you attack fewer
people and you shed less blood. You act on behalf
of your citizens. They own the government, they pay for
the government. It's in their name that all this is
being conducted. So that's a really simple concept. It's the
most powerful resonant concept in American politics that brought Trump
the majority of the popular vote. And I believe it.
I sincerely believe that most people do. They don't, So

(01:19:21):
that's what this really is about. As for fuent As himself,
you know, I thought a lot about it for many reasons.
And for one, Nick had attacked my family, my father,
my wife, one of my children by name a lot,
and so it's hard. It was hard for me to
get over that you know. For another, as I've said
a million times, I thought he was a fed and

(01:19:43):
I thought this was part of, you know, an op
design to tar sane anti neocon, pro realist foreign policy
people like you and me and Glenn Greenwald and Sacks
and you know. But in the normal people, Taras has Nazis,
I did that. I don't know if that's true or not.
I raised that with him, but basically, in the end,

(01:20:04):
I decided Nick Flentes can't be canceled. They've been trying
since he was a freshman in college. It doesn't work.
In fact, he's gotten bigger. He is enormously talented. Anyone
who denies that is lying, and he has like a
semi co not fully coherent, but a semi coherent kind
of position. And I would like to hear what it
is because that's kind of my job. And I'm also

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interested because he's the most influential voice for men under
thirty in the United States, more influential than me, more
influential than you. I don't think there's any question about that.
I spent a lot of time thinking about this and
talking to a lot of people about it, and I
think that that is true. So It's not like I
didn't make Nick Flentez hardly. I just want to know what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
This is about.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
And I wanted to make the point that I often
make and now seems even more important than it ever has,
which is that virtue and sin are not transmitted genetically.
There is no such thing as blood guilt. Therefore, collective
punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He

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did not create communities at once. He created people, and
all of us will die and in the end face
God alone. So it's about the person, and people can
be changed by God by the way, And the New
Testament is that story of people who were in the
case of the whole hero of the New Testament, the
human hero is a guy called Paul who was murdering
Christians as a pharisee and then becomes the greatest proselytizes

(01:21:29):
from the history Christianity in my personal hero. So, like,
don't tell me that people can't be changed because of
their blood. Now, that is the basis that position is
the basis of Western civilization. Well, often talk about Western
civilization and we're all defending Western Israel's defending Western civilization.
Israel does not have a Western position on this question.
The Israeli position, not of all Israelis, by the way,

(01:21:52):
and certainly not of all Jews. But I'm saying of
the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers,
which they say this out loud all the time, is
that everybody who who is related to a terrorist shares
in his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt,
and it's anesthetical to Christianity and to the West. And
so for me, and by the way, Israel's not the
only country that does this. Is most countries do this. Literally,

(01:22:13):
most countries do this, all of Asia, India. This is
like an intuitive response that people have. We're going to Russia,
you know, we're gonna punish the family too, because they're related.
Of course, only the West, and I mean specifically the
anglosphere Western Europe, because their foundation is Christian. Reject that. Explicitly.
Our justice system is based on the individual. People who

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do good things are rewarded, people who do bad things
are punished. It's about the individual, because that's a religion.
And so I just wanted to make that point, not
because of Israel or fronts or anything, but because that
is that idea right there. That specific idea is the
Western civilization we are struggling to defend, and its opponents
are domestic. The Neokons do not believe that at all.

(01:22:56):
Clearly while they are attacking my family. It's like Nick
Fuentn does attack my family. So I just wanted to
say that. I want to say that in every venue
because it's a feature of my religious faith, but it's
also my inheritance as a Western man, as the product
of Western civilization, and that's what I want to defend.
Randy Fine does not believe that, of course. Lindsay Rham
does not believe that. Of course. So the idea that

(01:23:17):
I hate Jews, obviously, I don't hate Jews at all.
Of course, obviously it's almost feels to say that, but
it's the fact. But I'm not allowed to hate any
person because of the group piece attached to I reject.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
That's what identity politics is.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
It's the belief that people are either better or worse
based on how they were born. And that is not
a Western understanding of people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Or of God.

Speaker 5 (01:23:45):
And that's why identity politics doesn't sit right with most Americans,
even though you could make a case for it. We
need to redress this past injustice or whatever. But most
people sort of know that's unfair. Why is it unfair.
It's unfair because it treats people as components of a
large hole, as part of a group whose individual choices
make no difference. It's like, you're black, therefore you're a criminal,
or you're Jewish, therefore you're bad. Like that whole way

(01:24:07):
of thinking is evil. It's anti Christian, and it is
that is the true attack on the West and a
Western civilization. And so I hear people like Randy if
I were defending Western civilization, Oh are you really? No, No,
you're its main enemy. And black lives matter. It's main enemy,
and not because they're black or Jewish or nothing to

(01:24:28):
do with that, because the idea is wrong. So that's
I just wanted to say that. I'm going to say
that every day for the rest of my life. I
will die for that belief. I mean it, because it's
my religious belief and it's also true.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
There you go, And that was Tucker's response. Essentially, This
was was kind of his first reaction to everybody trying
to cancel him, saying he's a Nazi, Nazi and a
Jewish hater, and he could not have made a greater
point and open and kind of I guess monologue on
Dave Smith's podcast, And we are not about identity politics.

(01:24:58):
Republicans have always identity politics with black lives matter, with
the way Democrats that say that white people have guilt
because that they were want slave honors and all this stuff.
This is what has been the core foundational belief of
Republicans for at least the past ten years, and especially
since the Democrats has made everything about identity politics. But

(01:25:20):
now it's like we're getting on board with what they're
trying to tell us is that Israel Western coalition and
foundational beliefs. But Israel is not a Western nation. It
is not part of the United States. They have a
completely different religion. And the same thing I said about
Palestinians earlier, which I've said over and over and over again,

(01:25:41):
where it's like, you can't be born a Palestinian and
be bad because that's not what Jesus ever taught. Jesus
didn't teach that about blacks or Mexicans, or Asians or
Whites or Palestinians or Jews, right, he never taught that.
The main reason why Christians are supposed to be Christians.
The reason why America was in large part founded on

(01:26:04):
Christian foundational beliefs and values is because America and the
West wanted to do it different. And when I say
the West, I specifically mean the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Yeah, and they didn't want to praise kings. They wanted
to praise God. Yeah, praise that's why they came here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, God over government, right, and so yeah, we never
wanted to be about hating other people, you know, the
Democrats did. I think one of the things they tried
to do very well was saying that if you have
an open border, that should be okay, because then if
you don't have an open border, then you hate everyone
that's coming across your border illegally, right, And I don't

(01:26:41):
agree with that because you know the same way that
in Biblical days to where God led the Jews out
of Egypt, and which was in the Exodus chapter of
the Bible, and he says, here's your land. You know,
God specifically talks about the Jews land, but he also
recognizes throughout the Bible he talks about nations all the time.

(01:27:02):
He talks about the kingdoms, he talks about literal borders
in the Bible, and yet the Democrats always wanted to
pretend like that if you had a border as a country,
that you were evil or you were a racist. Right,
It's the same reason. Like they Democrats could go a
step further and say, if you have a door or
a lock on your door, right, you're racist because.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Someone come in your house in your house. It's the
same thing, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
But so to Tucker's point here though, is that just
because you're Palestinian doesn't mean that you were born a terrorist.

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
It doesn't mean that you automatically hate Jews. It doesn't
mean that you don't have a chance for revival. It
doesn't mean you don't have a chance to become a
Christian and a Jesus follower. By the way, there are
a lot of Christians in Palestine in that area. The
same thing with Jews. Jews do not believe in or
at least the you know, the Orthodox Jews. They don't
believe in Jesus as the Savior. They believe Jesus was

(01:27:54):
a person. They don't believe he was the Savior. But
do we say because they don't believe in Jesus that
they should all die? I know we say that like,
there's still hope for those people as Christians. We want
them to believe in Jesus, the same way that we
would say that about Palestinians, the same way we would
say that about atheists, the same way we would say
that about devil worshipers. Those are all still people regardless,

(01:28:15):
and Jesus would treat every single one of those people
the exact same, including Israel versus Palestine. Jesus would not
look at Palestinians and look at Jewish people Israel and say, yeah,
we should kill these people. That's not Jesus, that's not Christianity.
And so if you, as Israel the nation, which by

(01:28:36):
the way, we're going to talk on this next episode about.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
What the bib not a Christian state, so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
A Jewish state, but but this is not a Jewish state. Yeah,
this is not a Jewish state. And keeping also in mind,
if the United States wanted to come into Israel as
a Jewish state quote unquote, and we wanted to impose
our political whatever it is Christianity, the fact that you
have to basically to Israel to Israel, do you think

(01:29:03):
that would be okay? Absolutely not, because Israel is a
state of Jews. It is a it is a Jewish nation.
It is one of the biggest nations of religion of
any place on the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Well, you know that eleven percent of the population, only
eleven percent of the whole population on Earth is Jewish. Yeah,
it is a very small amount of people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
It is, I mean, it absolutely is. But my point
to all this is that identity politics are bad, hating
people because of where they're born, or because of even
people that were above them, Right. That's like, you know,
if you're a Palestinian and then your leaders are Amas, right,
or your lineage say we're terrorist, that's like saying that

(01:29:49):
because you're white. That because you know, one hundred plus
years ago or two hundred years ago, somewhere down the line,
someone in your family was a slave owner. Then you
are automatically a slave owner. You are automatically a racist,
you are automatically a black hater, or whatever the case.
It's the exact same thing that we're talking about here
with Gaza and Palestine, and so we cannot differentiate civilty

(01:30:15):
and innocence based on because they're Gazin or Palestinian or
people in that region because of their color. Because of
where they're born, because it is Homosthis over their government.
We can't do that. The same exact reason why Israel
and Republicans all across the country and the Republican Party
has literal Republican Jewish Coalition meetings and APAC and all

(01:30:36):
this shit to make sure that like, if you even
criticize Israel, you're not allowed to be a Republican anymore.
You're not allowed to be a conservative. And you're not Christian.
You're not Christian. If you do not get on board
with Israel doing what they're doing in Gaza, you're not
a Christian, which is complete bullshit the Bible. And if
you're a Christian, all those Christians out there right now,

(01:31:00):
there are pastors listening that have never ever addressed this
in their church. If you think, as a Christian man,
or as a Christian pastor, or as a Christian person
in general, that it is okay for Israel the nation
to kill innocent civilians because they are Israel or because
they are God's chosen people, you might want to listen
to our next podcast. I am a Christian. I do

(01:31:22):
believe in Jesus, and because I believe in Jesus, I
believe that innocent people in Gaza and Palestine should not
be killed, just the same way that I believe that
everyone should not hate or kill Jewish.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
It just reminds me of the podcast with Tucker and
when he had Ted Cruz come on his podcast and
he was asking him about Israel and the Christian belief
of Israel. Do you remember that? Yeah, And Ted Cruz
is like, we are known as Christians that we have
to pray for Israel and we have to be about

(01:31:51):
Israel basically, yeah, but no, and Tucker was going off
on him about the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Yeah, but Ted Cruz literally said that the reason and
the entire reason he ran for Congress is to put
Israel first. He literally shaid that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
But then he couldn't even mention anything in the Bible
or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
And no, yeah, I mean, but he literally ran. He
said to Tucker, I want my number one goal as
congressman is to put Israel first. And Everybody's like, what,
Like this doesn't make any sense, right, And this is
when you know, this is not about religion. It's not
about you being a Christian. It's about influence, it's about money.
It is about control. Yes, and that's what it's about.

(01:32:32):
It's not about your religion or that you believe in
Jesus or God or any of this stuff. It's about control.
It's about all the other stuff. So to close this,
if you want to know why Republicans likely loss last
night and will lose in twenty twenty six and twenty
twenty eight if they don't do something different, is because
there are a lot of people that are waking up
to the bs, and especially after when you as a

(01:32:57):
campaign said we're going to expose everything. We're going to
arrest the people in the deep state, We're gonna expose
to Epstein files, We're gonna do all of these things.
We're gonna end all these wars. We're gonna end the
most important wars. We're not gonna we're not gonna send
our money to foreign nations. We're gonna do all this,
and you're doing the exact opposite. That's the problem, and
that's why Republicans lost last night. That's why they will
lose in twenty twenty six. That's why they're gonna lose

(01:33:18):
in twenty twenty eight if something doesn't change. And so, guys,
our next broadcast probably I don't know if sure will
be on it, but our next podcast will likely be
I want to talk about the biblical side from Christianity
and the Jewish Israel thing, right, we need to talk
about it. And the reality is is like what I

(01:33:39):
want to talk about on this, I've been studying for months,
and the crazy thing about that is that what I'll
probably say, even though it's one hundred percent all biblical,
I will also give you, guys the Biblical stance on
Israel and Jews on on like what Jesus or specifically
what God said about is said about the Jews, the

(01:34:01):
Jewish people. But I'm also going to tell you about
what it also says right to where as Christians what
we need to understand. And I'm not a pastor, I'm
not an expert on this, but I have been studying
this because I think what a lot of people right
now are doing is because they're getting so I guess,
inundated with the Republican United States Coalition with Israel. They're

(01:34:24):
not really looking into the Bible for answers, right, They're
not looking into the Bible of like, how should we
think about this, how should we look at this, and
what should we be doing right We're always told you
have to, no matter what stand with Israel, you have to,
no matter what, defend Israel, you have to, no matter what,
do all of these things, and especially when you have
people like Mark Levin at the Republican Jewish Coalition that

(01:34:47):
is essentially declaring war, as Nick Quintes says on Republicans
or America based on the Israeli pac or the Coalition,
I think this is something as Christians we must talk
about and we must understand because if from my perspective,
and this is something I always say when I don't
understand things and I don't have nowhere else to go,

(01:35:07):
the Bible is the only place I can go for
some type of foundational belief. And so that's what we're
going to try to talk about on the next episode.
We also have some fun episodes coming after this, but
I think everything going on right now, it's very important
to talk about stuff like this, especially considering the fact
that if we care about the future of America, and
especially after what we saw last night that the Democrats

(01:35:31):
did they wiped the floor with Republicans, we better start
figuring this out and we better stop hating people that
are calling things out that are technically in some ways
biblically true, but at the very least we need to
know what the Bible says, so that'll be the next episode. Guys,
thank you for listening. Go check us out on social media.
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(01:35:54):
will link in the description below and until next time,
we love you guys. Peace out, peace out guy.

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