Why Israel Is Splitting the Republican Party, with Gregory Lyakhov

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hello and welcome to Investigator Podcast. I'm your host shot
alongside my beautiful Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're joined by
a very special guest, Gregory like Off, a rising voice
and conservative media whose work has appeared now Liss like
The New York Post, Newsmax, town Hall, and more. Gregory
has become known for his sharp analysis of US politics
and the evolve in relationship between America and Israel, which

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makes him perfect guess for what we're going to talk
about tonight. Now, there is a real divide growing inside
the Republican Party and is no longer quiet. You have
long time pro Israel conservatives on one side and on
the other, a new way for Republicans questioning for on entanglements,
USAID and the party's overall stance on Israel. It is
reshaping primaries, reshaping messaging, and revealing a deeper identity crisis

(01:24):
on the right. Tonight, Gregory and I and Sherry are
going to dig into why the divide is happening and
who is driving it and what it means for the
future of the party. Guys, welcome to the show. It
is November the sixteenth, twenty twenty five. The name of
this song is be Free with Me by Scene. Very
very excited about this episode. We actually had Gregory reach
out to us a couple of days ago, and Gregory

(01:46):
had listened some of her episodes and he said, Hey,
you know, I want to come on the show. I
want to talk about the Republican divide. I want to
talk about Israel. I want to talk about the things
that you guys have been talking about. And for those
that do not know, Gregory has kind of been everywhere.
He is one of the youngest syndicated writers for all
of these various news organizations. He's been on Fox News,
News Max, You've probably saw him on television at some
point in time. And the kid's only seventeen years old. Like,

(02:07):
I don't even want to tell you, guys what I
was doing when I was seventeen years old, but it
definitely was not on the path that Gregory's on. Gregory,
thank you so much for coming on. I'm very excited
about this conversation. We're going to have tell the world
who you are a little bit about you.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. And
as you said, I'm the youngest nationally syndicated columnist. I
write for various publications about varying topics, but particularly right
now focused especially on this conservative divide that is going
on that is really, you know, impacting the Republican Party

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in many ways. I have been a supporter of the
current administration in the White House for quite some time now,
and you know, a lot of my writing has you know,
reflected that. But again, I seek to bring in analysis
that is not biased, but rather shows my opinion in
a way that is fact driven, and that is really

(03:04):
what I try to emphasize. So if any of you
want to check out my writing or anything, you can
search me up and find any of my articles. But yeah,
it's a real honor to be on the show. Thank
you so much for it.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
No, not a problem, Gregory. We really appreciate you as well.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Actually, we told quite a few people either our telegram
or whoever, that we're gonna bring Gregory on, and so
there was a lot of people like, just don't get
owned by a seventeen year old dad. I'm like, dude,
this is not what this conversation is about. We have
Gregory on because look, I had saw a clip of
you on Fox News talking about the anti semitism a
little while back. And what I will say, obviously from

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our stance for people that maybe have never listened to
this show, for the new listeners, we have talked and
heavily tried to get as many people as possible to
vote for Trump. Leading up to the twenty twenty four election,
we felt like Trump was the only chance America had.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
We fully hardly believed in the MAGA movement.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think that obviously, if you look at the election
results in twenty twenty four, there was millions and millions
of people that also believed in the MAGA movement, which
is make America great again. And so after Trump became
president in this second term, now you know a lot
of people had a lot of high hopes. And I
have been somewhat critical of Trump for sure about some

(04:20):
of the things, whether it was the Epstein files, which
we're also going to talk about, whether it was you know,
kind of all the AI companies that he's kind of
intermingled with that could potentially one day lead to a
surveillance state, and then obviously their recent conversations and the
MAGA divide, and it's not even divided anymore. It's almost
like MAGA is dead. And I'm seeing that kind of everywhere.

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And when you have people like Thomas Massey and Marjorie
Taylor Green and you know Rand Paul, even Rand Paul
was a huge name during the COVID nineteen crisis, to
where there was a lot of Americans that felt like
Rand Paul was the only one that was really standing
up for Americans during that time as a doctor, as
someone that actually knew what he was talking about, and

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he was one of the biggest grillers of doctor Anthony Falcy.
And now it's like all of that almost seems gone.
And so the question is like what are we going
to do about How are we going to go about it?

Speaker 5 (05:14):
But first let's get to Gregory.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Gregory tell me at seventeen years old, like how are
you and all of these news organization posts like how
are you the guy that if people are reading articles
on whether the Gateway Pundit or I think you've had
stuff in Washington posts like how did you get into that?
At seventeen?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, So look, this is what I tell everyone. I
don't have any connections My family has absolutely nothing to
do with politics. Neither does anyone that I actually knew
before I got into it. But I was passionate and
about a year ago that's when I started reading and
writing really and that's when I really started to emphasize

(05:56):
my passion for politics. And it's what I've been doing
twenty four to seven for the last year. And that's
how you get into it. You know, if you do
something for a year or however long, you'll be very
good at it quickly.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, for sure. So what did you think about Trump?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Did?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Why did you want Trump as our president for his
second term in twenty twenty four? Like, what did you
see that Trump could offer America? And obviously the way
that Kamala Harrison couldn't offer America? I mean, I'm sorry,
I laugh a little bit when I say that, but anyways,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, definitely. So I'm going to start off by actually
saying that Trump is not my ideal candidate. He is
a good leader, he is a good president, but he
is not a wonderful or amazing or perfect president. There's
a lot of faults with him. And that's okay, because
every candidate has a lot of faults. My biggest fault
with Donald Trump is that he has a really big mouth.
He sounds like a clown, acts like a clown at

(06:50):
certain you know times. But really, I don't look at
like I don't I don't look at rhetoric as the
deciding factor for president. I look at action. And we
have seen time and time again that Donald Trump has
been a very good president in his actions. And in
his first term he completely revolutionized the American economy, American

(07:10):
foreign policy, domestic policy. Really, she did a wonderful job.
And you know, that's really why I was so behind
him when he went around for the second time. But
also not to mention the fact that Kamala Harris the
Biden administration pushed so much you know, politics, I identity

(07:32):
politics into the United States that students were not learning
in schools anymore. Students were being indoctrinated in schools. And
when students are being indoctrinated, that leads to a country
in twenty five years that will be collapsed. So that
is really why I was so supportive of Donald Trump,
because of the danger that the other side poses to

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you know, the three hundred and sixty million plus Americans.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
That live here.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, absolutely, so do you feel And we had talked
about this before the show, and I want to ask
you this because I want people to understand where you're
coming from, kind of what your beliefs and values are.
You are Jewish?

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Correct, Yes? Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
And the reason I asked this because, like I said,
when I saw some clips about you know, you're talking
about the anti semitism, particularly on campuses, and this was obviously,
you know, a couple of years ago. What kind of
made you get into that? Obviously you're Jewish, But did
you see any of that anti semitism like in your
like in high school or what kind of made you
lead the charge on that to where people saw you

(08:36):
on major news organizations like Fox and CNA or wherever.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
So, I actually never experienced anti semitism in school because
I go to a school that is in a district
of many Jewish people, so I'm not like the only
Jewish kid there. The real anti Semitism that I have
experienced was when I publish articles and you know, get
that the article goes viral and it's about Israel, and

(09:03):
then I get emails from random people that I have
never you know, spoken with, rightly to kill me because
of my views of Israel, or you know, comparing me
to Hitler, which is a very ironic comparison, but you
know that's the real anti Semitism that I have experienced.
But the reason why I have been so you know,
outspoken about anti Semitism, especially on college campuses, is because

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we were going into a culture where you know, anti Semitism,
or not even anti Semitism, but anti whiteness, anti anything
that doesn't align with the suppressor versus a pressed ideology
was being normalized on college campuses and being taught at
college campuses, and that's again where it will lead into

(09:46):
a situation where our country will collapse no matter what
we do. So it's very important to stop it right
when it gets you know, right when it's just anti semitism,
and then we could go, you know, we don't have
to work worry on it. And you know, a good
analogy to this is Hitler and the Nazis in World
War Two, where you know, he's first started by targeting Jews,

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but that wasn't his only goal. His only goal was
to target the everyone who wasn't just like him. And
that's very similar to how I look at anti Semitism
to be, because if someone is an anti semi, they
are most likely not just anti Semitic, they're anti every
other race that is in you know themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
That makes sense, Yeah, I mean do you but do
you feel like even with the college campus stuff, the
anti semitism, we really didn't even see any kind of
blowback from you know, as you said, it was like
if you were white, if you were straight, if you
were single, if you were a male especially you know,
all these variable factors that we saw this from the
left for so long, for years to where it's like

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they demonized you if you were white, you were automatically racist,
or you were anti LGBTQ, if you did not go
along with the trans movements and everything that that came
along with. You know, we we saw all of that,
but we never really saw anyone, you know, standing up
for just American whites, the American nationalists, I guess you
can say. And when you think about like white nationalists,
for example, the media has always tried to spin that

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as some type of white supremacy or you know, like KKK.
But what a white nationalist really is as a white
person that believes that his nationality where he's living where
he is patriotic to maybe his family had died in
wars that is most important to him. So America first
might be the thing. And we've even saw a lot
of this America first talk. We saw the media tried

(11:36):
to spin that into anti Semitism recently or whatever the
case is. Why do you think though it took the
college campuses that were allegedly not allegedly, but they were
being overrun with people that had hamosque, you know, or hamosque,
hamas bandanazon or hamas flags or whatever. Why did it

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take that until the government finally did something, Because it
seem like it was only until they went against Israel
that anyone on the right cared about the white person
in America to begin with, Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Okay? So to answer your question, I'm gonna start off
by saying that there is a big divide between being
Jewish and Israel just because of anti Just because someone
is anti Semitic, it doesn't mean that they're anti Israel.
And just because someone is anti Israel, it doesn't mean
that they're anti Semitic. So the anti Semitic protests on
college campuses, which are openly anti Semitic does not have

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anything to do with Israel, if that makes sense. So
the government didn't intervene because it was a anti Israel protest.
The government intervened because it was an anti Semitic protest.
And that is an important distinction to make. But to
add on to that point, I mean, under Joe Biden,
the former president, I don't even want to call him president,

(12:53):
under the auto pen that Joe Biden had, we did
not see any action take place in call college campuses
at all, even with these anti Semitic protests. The only
time when we saw actual action take place was under
the Trump administration. And it wasn't the Donald Trump's first move.
It was the It was Donald Trump's move in a
simultaneous effort to end this disgusting ideology that the Left

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has intertwined in our basic institutions, like d I c RT,
all of all of that stuff oppressor versus oppress, like
all of that theories, all of those fake theories that
were anti American, anti white, anti Jewish, anti every other
race other than you know, a minority. I would say
those ideologies were all, you know, cut off and ended

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at the same time. So Donald Trump was doing a
lot of other things than just preventing anti semitism on
college campuses.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah. So do you feel, though, that you can be
anti Israel currently with this government and not be anti Semitic?

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yes, I one hundred percent agree. I, for comparison, criticize
Natanahu and his government a lot. I don't believe in
a lot of what he says, even though overall I
think he's a good leader. But there's a lot that
I criticize, and I'm definitely not antisemitic. So you can
criticize a government without being antisemitic. But it turns into
anti semitism when you are solely criticizing Israel for no

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good purpose and just throwing criticisms disguised as analysis, but
really you're trying to provoke something or you know, you're
just you're not focusing on other factors. So when you
single out Israel for no good reason, then it becomes antisemitic,
or it could become antisemitic.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Okay, Well, you give me a lot of good things
to think about, because you know, with my family background
and half of my family being Jewish, and you know
we're not even from Israel, but we look highly towards Israel,
and it's just it's odd to me, like, you know, know,
the whole thing about what's going on right now is

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everybody is anti Israel, anti Israel. And then Chad and
I on a lot of podcasts, we're like, well, listen,
we've got to break this down. There's a difference between
the government and the religion. And we've talked about that
on several podcasts. And it's okay to go against Israel
as a country, but I don't think it's okay to
go against Jewish people as a general rule.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
No, absolutely not. And and I want to I want
to also say something.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know, there have been protests inside of Israel many
times against the government and that yahoo and there's also
been many protests against their response from October seventh and
what and how they responded in Gaza and the amount
of civilians that were killed in Gaza. That is my criticism,
by the way, Gregory is you know, when when I
talk about this Israel thing, number one, I have two things.

(15:50):
I have the response to what they how they responded,
and how forcil they responded inside of Gaza. We've had
a lot of people from Gaza in that area of
Palestine that have reached out to us and said, hey, look,
I'm a normal person. I have the same dreams, I
have the same aspirations. I have the same things that
you know you do as an American or people in
Israel do. But now I don't have a you know,

(16:11):
I don't have a house, I don't have anywhere to go.
Everything my future looks very bleak now because they've literally
destroyed everything. That is my criticism of this Israeli government.
And I think the problem though with this is that
there's a lot of people that look at Israel, especially
considering how the US government for example, they say, well,
you know, Israel first, Israel or not Israel first.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
But that's what a lot of people believe.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
But they're saying, we can't have America without Israel, essentially,
is what the Republican Party now is so divided over.
But yet you have as we're talking, there is a
difference between Jewish people and Israel. But if you're if
you're also continuing the conversation to say, no, well, we
have to stand with Israel. We have to do whatever
we can to make sure that Israel is protected and

(16:57):
that we support them in any way and send billions
of dollars. Then obviously there's a lot of people that say, well, okay,
So then that means that it's okay what they're doing
and have done in Gaza. Obviously, we know October seventh
was horrendous and horrible.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
We get that. We're not saying it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
But I think that's why there is so much like
anti semitism is because the media and the government are
almost mixing the two. They're saying, you know, Israel and
Jewish people are the same. It is a Jewish state.
And the way that Trump and the Republican Party talks
about it, they lump both of them together. So then
when you have all these people that are not necessarily

(17:33):
educated in one way or the other, they're going to
go anti Semitic in some ways because they feel like
Israel the government represents the Jewish people right now, Like,
what is your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, So I'm gonna start from the very beginning,
start off from what you mentioned at the very beginning.
And you know, you can be anti Israel in that
you can criticize the current government, but if you are
anti isi as in Israel shouldn't be a country or
a Jewish state, then yes, that becomes anti Semitic, because
then you are saying that is that Jews can't can't

(18:09):
self determine themselves in a state, which is in my perspective, antisemitic.
And we can go into that if you don't agree
with that, but I'm pretty sure you do, but you know,
to to it on to that point, your preference or
your preface that you know Israel was wrong in what
they have done in Gaza is also something I disagree with.

(18:30):
I mean, look, the situation in Gaza was tragic and
still is tragic because it's a war zone. There is
people dying, There's going to be kids killed. However, the
IDF and Israel as a whole did not create any
genocide and did not, you know, do any malicious intent
in in Gaza. And in my perspective, and I could

(18:52):
back this up if we want to go into a
discussion about it, the situation in Gaza could have been
much worse if any other military other than the IDEA
was fighting for it. And the reason I say that
is because we can look at the numbers. I mean,
the civilian casualties have been reported by the Gadza Health ministry,
which is run by Hamas a terrorist organization. So the

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numbers at the very beginning are basically being reported to
you by a terrorist organization. So that has been caught
multiple times inflating their you know, civilian casualty ratios. But
not only that, this same Gaza Health Ministry does not
even distinguish between civilians and combatants. So there's no possible

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way to tell the difference between a civilian and a combatant.
So we know that around sixty eight thousand people have
been killed, we don't know how many civilians have been
killed and how many combatants we have been killed. I
could give you the IDF's numbers according to that, but
that would also be biased towards the IDF. And if
we want to treat Hamas and the IDEF the same,
which isn't a comparison I think we should make. But
if we do, then you know, we wouldn't use bias

(19:59):
numbers for both of them. That's to start off. But
I could go into this discussion if you're interested in
why I believe that the situation Gaza is not you know,
the idea is fought or anything ye in general? I oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Sure, so and the way.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I actually want to first ask you, why are you
so against what Israel did or what specifically are you
so against what Israel did in Gaza?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, I think I think just as an American is
because we're involved monetarily, right. So it's the same reason
that you know, when I saw people during the Biden
Harris regime where they had you know, literally Ukraine flags
in their bios before they had American flags, and some
of these people were US politicians, right, And so I
was always like, Okay, that makes zero sense.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
This is America, this is not Ukraine. So I don't
feel I guess I'm.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Going to rephrase my question. We could get into that too,
and actually that's a very interesting discussion. But I guess,
like actions in Gaza by Israel, do you, like, do
you believe that Israel was purposefully or maliciously acting in
Gaza in a horrific way or in any sense like that?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I do. I think Israel used October seventh to their
benefit when it comes to trying to eliminate the people
that they I don't believe like. And I think also
Israel believes that's their land. They want their land back.
Very similarly to if you want the you know, the

(21:29):
argument about Russia wanting to make the USSR again with
the Ukraine, you can make that argument, although I don't
necessarily believe that one hundred percent. But you know, if
you look at just strict numbers, you know, even the
UN and some of these which I don't always believe
or agree with the UN, but the Gaza Ministry of Health,
which obviously you said was probably a lot of hamas
that is the government that has ran there. But then

(21:50):
you also had the UN and major media kind of
across the board, which I don't also believe in media,
but UN also says they believe there was at least
seventy thousand so far killed in Gaza, twenty thousand children
such as members well and you, and some human inspectors
and win as well, but we don't know for sure. Okay, okay,

(22:10):
let's let's look at Gaza though for a second, Gregory,
do you do you think that that looks like a
place that there was a lot of people that survived.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I mean, if the population of Gaza is like two million,
so if if less than seventy thousand people got killed,
I mean, that's not like a huge percentage I mean, yes,
that's a lot of killed, but it all depends on
the civilian to commander ratio number one, number two, it
depends on the actions that the IDEAF has taken, because
the IDEAF was faced with the task that was nearly
impossible for any other military to complete, which is basically

(22:42):
to prevent civilian casualties in an area where Hamas, a
terrorist organization, continues to embed itself within the infrastructure and
basically use human shields, which is documented also by the UN,
to protect themselves and to protect their weapons. So I
don't believe that the actually did anything anything wrong here,

(23:04):
and every report that has stated that the IDF has
has done something wrong or is committing genocide or anything
like that, it doesn't support any narrative because it's all
using Hamas's Hamas's data. I mean also, I just don't
believe that the American people or any people should be

(23:24):
falling for this trap of you know, using data from
a terrorist organization.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, and two, we've had, like I said, we've had
a lot of people that reach out to us, even
from Palestine and Gaza literally have saw videos of you know,
where civilians were going to supply drops and this was.
This was during the time they had a blockade on
supplies because they were not allowing supplies in, although Israel
said that this was because they didn't want the supplies
going to Amas. But you're still you were still starving

(23:51):
the people in Gaza. And then even all the videos
I've seen people that have sent them to US and
everything else to where when they would go to these
supply drops and they would try to get this food supply,
there were IDEA soldiers that were shooting at these people.
I've saw these videos, you know, and and some of
these people like, yeah, most of these people do not.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I I don't mean to Yeah, you are right, there
are videos of IDEF soldiers shooting. Uh, it's not very clear.
Those videos are kind of usually taken out of context.
And I'm sure there are incidents where the IDEF was wrong.
I'm not saying that every military has incidents where their
soldiers do something wrong, but those are, you know, one
off incidents. So just saying because I saw a video

(24:37):
of something like that happening, it doesn't necessarily mean that
holistically that is actually what's going on. It just means
that there's an incident of it going on. Number one.
Number two, Israel, you know, had a blockade of aid
for a few reasons. Number one, there's no other military
in history other than Israel, uh and the IDF that

(24:57):
purposefully gives aid to its enemies. That's what Israel has
done in this war. And then when they decided to
stop giving aid to its enemies, that's when the entire
world condemned them for it, which is, you know, ridiculous.
But on your on your point about the blockade, I mean,
even the UN said that ninety percent of its aid
was intercepted by Hamas ninety percent. So I think there's

(25:21):
a very you know, there's a very good reasoning behind
the fact that you don't want aid to be given
to enemies terrorists that then use it to make money.
That's not a good pathway, that's not a good pathway
to go. And again I'm not denying that the situation
in Gaza is tragic. It is. It's very tragic, but

(25:41):
so is every other war. And the IDF is not
to blame. It's Hamas.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Yeah, I mean, well in Chad, isn't it true?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Though?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Before IDF goes into the parts of Gaza they would
put down.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
They would wastelets or flits or.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Saying you guys need to I grate to this area
because at this time, the next day or whatever, we're
going to blow it to oblivion. I mean, they tried
to pre warm people to get them out of there,
and most people have migrated north or wherever they went to, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
The West Bank or even beyond that. I mean they
they also went out of country that I mean. But
you also have to keep in mind that these people
were literally migrating their walking in a lot of cases,
and there were there were instances where they were blown
up as they were trying to get to these places. Right,
So this was there what.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Other military has warned their enemy that they're coming. I mean,
this is like again unheard of.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Well we well we have. I mean the United States
has done that. And we've also done supply drops into
places like Afghanisan Iraq for the civilians there. I mean
I know that just firsthand from a lot of people.
But and and also military and whoever. But here's here's
my problem with this with with the Goaza thing, is
you have written for Jerusalem Posts before? Correct? Yes, okay,

(26:58):
did you see the art from Jerusalem Posts that they
wrote about the leaked document that Israel knew about October seventh,
a year prior to it it happening.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I did not, But I know about the I know
about the you know, consensus of that story.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
So what is your consensus of that?

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Do you do you not believe that the greatest intelligence agency,
maybe in the world, even oversea, I didn't know about
the hamas planning of October seventh.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I do believe that the IDEF knew. And what those
documents actually say if you read them, was that the
Israeli officials obtained Hamasa's battle plan for in attack. They
weren't sure that it would happen on October seventh or
any other day, but they knew that there could be
an attack coming. And I mean Hamasos attacked Israel. It's

(27:50):
not much of a surprise. What the IDEAF has done, though,
was there was a complete failure on October seventh with
the IDF to protect the Israelis in it. And everyone
knows that. Everyone agrees that the IDEA failed on October seventh.
October seventh should have never happened. It was a security breach.
But I mean, what are you like, are you trying
to allude to the fact that the Ideaf purposefully allowed

(28:13):
for October seventh to happen, Like, what's the.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I I do believe that. I do believe that only
because there was also a standown order from what you know,
many including I believe the Jerusalem Post. I mean, there
was no one around.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
For eight hours after that attack, so you know hamas
it was.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
It was no, no, it was not eight hours. And
on October seventh was one of the holiest days in
the Jewish calendar, and everyone in general in Israel is
in strul in synagogue, you know, praying, So that's why
there was such a short of soldiers on that specific day.
So the specific day that happened was when you know,

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Israel was at its weakest point because everyone was praying
in synagogue. Now, as soon as October seventh happened, that's
whenever one got back and started fighting. It was less
than out eight hours.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
So now is it true though also that like the
music festival, is it true that they actually moved that
closer to the border two weeks prior to that October
seventh event, because it was it was originally planned that
it was like nine or ten miles inside of the border.
Walls and then it was like two miles. So they
moved that within two weeks of October seventh.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yes, but that doesn't mean anything. There's a lot of
there's a lot of reasons why they move, why they
move festivals and everything like that. I mean, it's a
little bit of a crazy, you know take to say
that that, Like what benefit would it pose for Israel
to allow for October seventh?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I mean, well, it poses the benefit to them that
they then get to go in and wipe out an
entire people and then take over that line.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
They did. They wipe out an entire people. I mean,
if they wanted to wipe out the entire people. Gaza
is a one bomb state. I mean there's two two
million people. They didn't even make a dent in there.
The birth replacement rate right now is still like three
point one higher than the United States replacement rate. So
I mean, Gozza didn't get wiped out. Their population is
still growing, Their obesity rate is still like sixty four percent,

(30:15):
So I don't know to an extent, they're not like
they're not doing bad right now compared to how they
were before October seventh.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, I don't see. I don't agree with that because
you know, I also know, like who's going to be
Who do you think is going to be over Gaza?
Now that the peace accords are trying to go through,
Do you think that Palestine and a two state solution
is going to happen? Because I don't think so. I
think it's going to be Israel that takes over them.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
A two state solution was offered, Yeah, a two state
solution was offered over six times where Hamas and not
not only Hamas but the PLO different governments of Palestine
repeatedly refused a two state solution every single time it
was offered. Their original plan in ninety forty eight was
to give Gaza and the Palestinians more land than to

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give Israel, which again they refused, and that same deal
which was given to them like four times, and then
through the OSCO Accords and others, you know, they constantly
refused a deal. And a two state solution is obviously
not going to happen because Hamas has made it clear,
and it has made it so clear that it's even
in its charter that the destruction of Israel is their

(31:27):
top priority. So a two state solution would only give
legitimacy to a state that seeks to destroy not only
Israel but the United States too. So I do not
believe that a two state solution is in near sight
because Hamas has refused it. Number one. Number two, Israel
would never give a state, and the world would never

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give a state to a country that seeks to destroy it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
But Gregory, like, when you say that, though you're talking
about Hamas the way I feel like you're talking about
Hamas is like China right right across the border. Hamas
is China. They're so advanced, They're at all this. You
have to understand that Israel is one of the most
advanced intelligence They have weapons that we probably don't even
know about. They do have nuclear weapons all that are
not technically supposed to have them, but they got secret nukes.

(32:13):
So with all that being said, like, how much danger
was Israel really ever in besides October seventh? Like how
much was Israel really at stake from losing and Israel
being destroyed from Hamas, which is they have tunnels, they
have weird two way communication devices to get through things.
It's not like they actually have any decent weapons. I mean,

(32:36):
even like Iran when they tried to help or the
Houthis or Hama or not hoo Thies, but the Houthis
and Iran and all them. I mean, they did nothing
to Israel. They sent over some of these little stupid drones.
None of them got through. Nothing gets through to Israel.
I almost guarantee you China could try to attack Israel

(32:57):
and they would still be fine. But yet you're talking
about Moss over here like they're China, but they're not. They're,
as you say, a terrorist organization. There are these people
that are running through the little tunnels underground. How much
like how how at risk is really Israel to Hamas?

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I mean, let's just be honest.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Besides October seventh, And then there's the reason why it's
important when I say that did Israel know about October seventh?

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Is because it's very important.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
You know, I believe they did know about October seventh
to justify what's going on now. We also know benjaminnett Yah,
who was under indictments and was now Sagan.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Like if if Israel, what my question to you is
that what is going on now? Because if sixty thousand
people or sixty eight thousand is I think the correct
number according to Hamas, people died, which we don't know
how many were civilians, we don't know how many were combatants.
Israel accomplished nothing with the war because there are over
two million people in Gaza, and sixty thousand or sixty

(33:59):
eight thousand is a very small number compared to two million.
So what did they accomplish with the war. If their
goal was to, you know, create a genocide or wipe
these people off the map, what would they accomplish? They
didn't accomplish anything.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Well, and let me let me tell you my point
to this too is that I think, I think my
biggest issue with this is that if if we as
we talked about in the beginning of the show, if
we want to differentiate Jewish people in Israel, right, but
the problem is that Israel is not doing that. Israel
the government that is going out they are killing civilians.

(34:34):
How many ever that is doesn't matter. But whatever, they're
killing civilians. Obviously, yes, the United States is killed civilians too.
We've criticized the United States government over and over and
over again for eight or nine civilians. Well they have,
but there is something wait, I mean, let's just say
that it was seventy thousand civilians that they killed, Like,
would that be okay because of seventy Well, okay, but

(34:57):
let's just say, because you know, nine to eleven happened,
we went to different wars, went to Iraq, Afghanistan, we
lost over five thousand troops, were still losing people because
they were that was that was because of four thousand
civilian lives. So let's just say then it's thirty thousand
civilian lives in Gaza. Do you not think that's going
to intensify the desire for the people around there to

(35:20):
then radicalize more people against Israel and against Jewish people.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, this, this, this war would have never happened. If Hamas,
which is a government that is elected by the Palestinian
civilians or so called civilllions, if hamast In an attack Israel,
this war would have never happened. So my question to
you would be if the war in Iraq, or if
let's say, when I don't know, let's say there was

(35:47):
an attack on the United States, like a nine to eleven,
and then the United States attacked the country that actually
created that attack, and it was proved that that country
created the attack, would it be justified to attack that country.
I mean, the answer would be yes, obviously it's justified,
and it's as long as it's relatively you know, it's proper.

(36:12):
Doesn't really as long as you know everything there is
is not a war crime, then yes, it would be
proper to attack a nation that threatens your sovereignty and
attacks your own civilians. And that's what exactly Israel did.
And your point about Hamas and the threat Hamas poses,
it's important to note that Hamas is a proxy of Iran.

(36:33):
Iran is a country which had the ability I don't
know if they have it anymore, but they definitely had
the ability to enrich uranium within two weeks and create
a you know, a nuclear bomb, which would have created
a threat not only to Israel, but to the United
States and the rest of the Western world as well.
So the threat Hamas poses is really big because it's

(36:53):
a proxy of Iran, and that's what we have to understand.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, and I think even with nine to eleven and stuff,
I mean, there's things that we are complete bs with
nine eleven, right, I mean, I'm not going to get
in none eleven, but you know, comparing it to October
seventh and nine eleven there are things that we still
don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
We actually have a podcast coming up with architects.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
And engineers for none eleven Truth that these guys, over
a thousand architects and engineers have got together and kind
of shown that like, whatever the official story is on
nine eleven, it's not true. It's not accurate, it's not
it's not real. I don't know what the actual story is,
but there's something that we've been lied to there, right,
So and if that's the case, though, we should know

(37:33):
like what we have been lied to, what we have been,
you know, taking down a rabbit hole that we probably
shouldn't have been. You know, I remember after nine eleven
everyone hated Muslims. It seemed like and it was okay.
It was like it was okay to be like, oh yeah,
Muslims are all terrorists.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
No, it was people hated extreme the extremist Muslims.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah. But if you were on a flight after nine
to eleven and you had a Muslim guy on your plane,
you know, everyone was like, oh yeah, you looked.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
At him, Oh gosh, is he going to have a
bomb or something exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
But anyways, my point to this, is Gregory, is that
I I feel like, in my personal opinion, you it's
say you had mentioned something about war crimes, but I
feel like that Israel has committed war crimes against Gaza
without a doubt, without question. And you know, if if
you look at even Afghanistan war crime, well just killing innocent.

(38:23):
I mean, you have to think about Israel and their
sophistication as far as how advanced their military is, how
advanced or intelligence is. If they can blow up people
in Iran in a random apartment complex pinpoint accuracy, killing
a leader of whether it be Hamas or whoever inside
of Iran or Koran or Koran I mean, or what's that?

(38:45):
What's this called kait? No not Kuwait, I mean, it's
not quait. But anyways, if they Qatar out of my guitar,
I don't know why I'm blinking. But if they can
with pinpoint accuracy kill a leader, just like the United States,
skin they've done this multiple multiple times, they could have
been a lot less sloppy in this war in Gaza.

(39:07):
Because I'm just telling you, like to me, you know,
if we're estimating and not just we're estimating, and the UN,
the UN has came in the whoever twenty thousand kids.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Like, that's insane. I mean that it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Like what the reason is is is the fact that
Israel was twenty kids.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Again, that's if we look at the report which I read,
the twenty thousand kind number is again it's crazy because
once again it's using Hamasa's numbers. That is the only
official count that has ever been taken of the amount
of people who have been killed in Gaza. Number one,
number two, they count a seventeen year old within Ak
forty seven who is charging towards a Hamas soldier as

(39:53):
a kid. Obviously he is a very big threat to
is Now again, I'm not denying the fact that Israel
has killed civilians because it has. It's inevitable in warfare,
especially in urban warfare where the density is extremely you know,
where the density is ridiculous. I think it's one kilometer
has like over six thousand people, which is like the

(40:13):
most dense in any urban warfare and modern day history.
But again we are looking at the numbers and at
the end of the day, we do not know the
total amount of civilians dead. All we know is that
there's sixty thousand or sixty eight thousand people who have died,
which are both civict millions and combatants. We don't know.

(40:34):
Hamasa isn't differentiate between them. We know that the total
cause of population is two million, so that sixty eight
thousand number did absolutely nothing to the two millions, So
there's no genocide that took place because Israel could have
done much more if they wanted to. And we also
know that the Israel has donated and has given over

(40:55):
one million tons of aid of its own aid to
the people in Gaza. So I mean, I just don't
see where a war crime fits into the picture here.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Well, and I just thought it was crazy on October
seventh when that first happened and we saw it happening.
It wasn't just Hamas soldiers. It was civilians coming from
Palestine killing innocent Jewish people, are innocent Israelian people. It
wasn't just the Hamas terrorist it was like civilians in

(41:27):
civilian clothes.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, I mean Hamas was elected by civilians. It's not
like these civilians are one hundred percent innocent if they
elected and still support a terrorist organization to represent them.
So we can't separate Hamas and civilians. We can't pretend
that they're just fully innocent civilians and Goda there.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Are hold on on, I'm sorry, but I gotta say
this because, like, if we're talking about Hamas, is this
big threat to Israel? And yet you think that the
civilian popular is not at a threat by the people
that are they.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Actually they are indoctrinated to hate people in Israel.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Well of course, but so was.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
But listen, the reality is, though, if you actually think
fair elections happen in Gaza, that's that's crazy because there's
no way.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
There's just no way. I mean, if this is such a.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Ruthless, barbaric place, you really think they're going to have
like a democratically elected.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Government.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Well, let's let's step back for a minute. What what
did Gaza or Palestine? What did it look like before
October seventh compared to what it looked like now?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Were people living they actual look very beautiful.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
Well, were people living in poverty? Were they intense? Were
they living like you know, wild people? No, they had
very nice houses.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
It was gorgeous. It was gorgeous in Gaza. The Gaza
Strip was one of the most beautiful places on the earth. Actually,
I mean there's tons of videos of it.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Gaza before October seventh, was was a a basically it's
own state to an extent. I mean, obviously it was
in fully its own state. Israel had conflicts with Gaza
long before October seventh, but before October seventh, the Palestinians
were living a normal life. I mean, it wasn't like
terrible or anything, So you can't say that, you know,
it was a horrible place before too. I mean it's

(43:15):
it wasn't like a prison or anything. It was a
nice area like Gaza was relatively nice before October seventh.
But on your point on if like there's a democratically
elected government in Gaza, I mean no, they're The last
election that took place was in two thousand and five
when Hamas overwhelmingly got elected. But also there's nothing to
say say that these Palestinians don't support Hamas. And there's

(43:39):
everything to say that these Palestinians do support Hamas because
these same civilians that are claiming to be civilians are
the ones who are storing weapons in their house that
are owned by Hamas. They're the ones who are you know,
supplying aid to Hamas. They're the ones whose kids go
and fight for Hamas. So there's nothing to say that
these Palestinians don't support Hamas.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
Oh and they're keeping the hostages?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Are they were? So do you think that just Palestinians
that are born, you think they just grow up and
they just hate Jews because they're Jews? I mean, do
you think they really just that they're taught?

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I think it's it's for the same reason why Nazis
hated Jews.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Okay, well, and maybe I mean you could be correct, right,
but even still, you know a lot of people that
I mean a lot of people have reached out to us,
like from that area. It's just it just doesn't seem
that way. I mean, it just doesn't seem like the
people in Palestine are just Jew haters. Well, they just
want their normal lives.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Okay, the main religion in Palestine is Muslim? But are
there a lot of Christians that live there as well?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
There are in the West Bank? Not a lot, I mean,
what fifty thousand?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Maybe there is no Christians that live in Gazic If
you were a Christian, you would not be able to
live in Gosa. West Bink is separate from Gaza.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
Yeah, yeah, West Bank is considered like part of Israel.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Right, Yeah, No, West Bank's very confused.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
It's technically a sovereign territory. It's confusing. It's kind of
a part of Israel. But it has its own government,
it has the plo as its government, the Palisaian Authority.
So it's different from Gaza. Separate government from Gaza. They're
not the same. But both both Gaza and the West

(45:23):
Bank participated in October seventh. Obviously Gaza overwhelmingly participated more
and was leading the charge.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
So why tell me why Christians would not be allowed
to live in Gaza?

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Because Hamas does not allow any other ethnicity other than
its own, you know, ethnicity to live in Gaza. That's
why you can't be Jewish and living Kaza. You would
be killed. You can't be Christian and live in Gaza.
They are a terrorist organization. They will kill everyone who
is not like them. Not only that, but if you
are even in the United States, and I don't know,

(45:58):
we see all of these transgender people protest, protest Israel
and everything. If a transgender person LGBTQ blah blah blah
person were to go into Gaza, they would be shot
right there. Because you there's no LGBTQ in Gaza like
it's it's it's crazy, but you know that's just one
of the many points of how yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
I do agree with that, but you know, keeping in
mind too, like.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
How many Christians live in Israel. I'm just curious, do
you guys.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Know there's a I think two million Christians or no
less less than two million, but it is it's third
third religion. I think there's three million Arabs who live
in Israel and then one million Christians or something like that.
But there's a very big Christian population. Israel is not
a just you know, it has different religions.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
All right, Gregor, I'm going to play probably your favorite person.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I'm going to play Nick Flint as a clip that
he just recently had's this is only two so Gregory,
you can deal with two minutes two minutes Nick Flynn does.
I do not even know what this clip says, but
it says, hey, when you have bring Gregory on, play
this clip. I'm going to as America first versus Maga.
We were talking about the Republican fracture. Let's hear what

(47:14):
Nick Flint says, Well, this.

Speaker 7 (47:18):
Is now the dichotomy you have Maga on the one side,
and what does this even stand for anymore? You got
Maga on one side, what does that even mean? Make
America great for who? Make it great? For Israel, Indian immigrants,
Chinese students, illegal immigrant farm workers, Make America great again

(47:39):
for them, Make Israel great, Make America great for the
global empire, defense contractors, Big Pharma, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Pallanteer.
You got Maga on the one side, and like I said,
Brandy Fine, Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz. And then
on the other side, he got America first, no ambiguity,

(48:02):
no iffsands or butts. What does that mean? America first,
Americans first, America only. America first is our credo. Americanism,
not globalism, is the credo. Tucker Flentis, Candice Marjorie Thomas, Massey, Dandilzerian, Myron,
Jake Shields, Lucas Gage, all the great's, all the usual suspects.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
That's the question, Aiden Ross Sneako.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yay, this is the dichotomy.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
What are you for? Are you with America first? Are
you with Maga?

Speaker 7 (48:37):
I think after this month, after this year, twenty twenty
five is the year that Maga died this is the
year that this hat is no longer controversial. The hat
is not edgy, the hat is not provocative, it doesn't
even mean anything.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
This hat is dead.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
This hat is dead now metaphorically speaking, And this is
the future. America first is the future, explicit, unambiguous, direct,
actually has denotative meaning. America first is the creedom.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
There you go, Gregory, what what if you could tell
Nick Finn does one thing right now? Because he does
he does follow us and all that, so he might
listen to this. What could you say to him about
that that thing? Do you disagree or agree with what
he says there?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah, so I would say that he is wrong, just
fundamentally wrong. I don't see where this you know, idea
of America first means America only. That is a very
very just you know, one side point. If America only
was the fact, then America would not be first in
America would not exist anymore. So, look, you can support Israel,

(49:48):
and you cannot support Israel. But it's definitely a very
big stretch to say that America first is America only.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Really, so you think that America versus America only? Why
why do we need other countries like Israel, because I mean,
that's that's really what we're talking about. Why do we
need Israel? Why does America? Why does America need Israel?

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Israel? Israel provides and is the only democracy in the
Middle East. It has provided security for the United States
for decades. It has provided intelligence for the United States
for decades. We have the best technology ever to exist
out of Israel. I mean, Israel creates a technology that
the current military in the United States uses. I mean,

(50:28):
the CIA uses most of Israel's technology. So like, Israel
is an untangible asset. And just in general, we need
Israel as not only a democracy, but also as a
state that contributes to the United States and spreads Western
values in the Middle East desperately. We need that. And

(50:51):
not to mention that Israel's a Jewish state and America
obviously needs Jews. America needs for the Jews wish people
to have good relations with the United States because of
what the Jewish people in general provide to the United States.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
So what okay, so okay, okay, Oh my god, I
got I got, I got a couple of things. Number One,
we're saying Israel's a democracy, but we know bb Netanyahu
has been in power. So his first term nineteen ninety
six now nineteen ninety six ninety nine. His second term
was from two thousand and nine to twenty twenty one.
Third term, current term is from twenty twenty two to present.

(51:31):
What do we feel like? What like? What is a
democracy in the United States? Do we have more than
two terms? Or at what point does BB Netanyaho become
a dictator in Israel?

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Wait? So just because Netanyahu was elected more than once,
that makes him a dictator. I don't think that's a
good that's a good point. Just because the people elected
him and Israel doesn't have term limits doesn't mean that
the United war, That doesn't mean that Netanyah who is
a dictator. He's definitely not a dictator because the Israel
has a parliamentary system, so it's very different from the

(52:03):
United States. So term moments just don't work in that's
government system.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Isn't it? But isn't it coincidental though, that like right
before that he was about to be indicted and probably
put in prison, that this war happened in October seventh
to where it is superseded in all of those policies.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I don't believe he would have been put in prison.
And the thing that he was indicted for was a
very stupid, un hinged on democratic thing, very similar to
what happened to Donald Trump in the United States over
the last three years.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
What do you think the majority of the population in
Israel feels about BB.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Well, I know that they feel that Bib is a
good leader because they are the ones who voted in
BB and he is still in majority support. Whether that
majority is not as as big of a gap, I
think it's I think he has like forty two percent
when the other leading candidate has like twenty or something.
But it depends. I mean, she definitely lost some support

(53:05):
because of October seventh, but still overwhelmingly the population of
Israel supports them.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Okay, so let me ask you this. So you had
said that you know, the United States must have Israel
or Jews in the United States to survive, but you don't.
You're you're a Jewish person, right, You don't believe in
Jesus Christ and has the Savior? Correct?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I do not. Okay. So with that being said, if
America was founded in foundational beliefs on the Christian nation,
which is America, just say, for example, if it was
like Israel, even though the United States necessarily is not
because we have allowed we have allowed all of these
people and to kind of, I don't know, blur our

(53:52):
lines with like what our actual values and morals are
in America. But let's just say that, like Israel had
the same thing happening there to where you had all
these people, and Israel was no longer a Jewish state.
It was a state of everybody that was battling for
their identities, their ideological values, their moral compasses, they're religious beliefs.

(54:14):
So Israel became that state. So it was no longer
a Jewish state. It was a United States of Israel
instead of the United States of America. Right, No, they
wouldn't let it happen, but America has. So the reason
I say this is because as a Christian in my opinions,
as a Jesus believer, and as Christians believe that like

(54:37):
you can't get to Heaven without Jesus, and yet Jewish
people believe that you obviously don't need Jesus.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Well they're waiting for the Savior, yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Which is they believe it's not Jesus.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
My point to this is, like, why does America need
Jewish people that completely do not align with their core
foundational Christian beliefs. So we're talking about the Republican Conservative Party,
which are the ones that are heavily supporting, and taxpayer
money is going to Israel. We're funding a nation that
does not even believe in the in the way that

(55:09):
we get to heaven. Why do we need the Jewish
people in the state in America?

Speaker 6 (55:14):
Great question.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
So Jewish people in general overwhelmingly share the exact same
morals as Christian Christians do, simply because Christianity as a
whole is a religion based off Judaism, based off Judaic values.
So they are very very similar. Yes, there are differences
in Saviors and Jesus Christ, but the values and the

(55:36):
moral lines at the end of the day are almost
exactly the same. That's why the New I mean the
Old Testament, which is both shared Bible for Jewish and
Christian people, is the foundation of our country. And that's
what we have seen. The United States was built on
an idea that not necessarily Christianity is the really legion

(56:00):
of the United States, but Judeo Christian values are the
you know, core emphasis of the United States and that's
what we have seen, and that's what Jews, you know,
hold to their account too. And there's a lot of
other reasons why we need Jews, simply because Jewish people
hold two point two percent of the world's wealth when
they make up less than zero point two percent of

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the entire world population. So I think you can understand.
I mean, I don't mean to, you know, stereotype my
own people. But at the end of the day, the
Jews are the Jews are wealthy, they are smart, they
are you know, they are good people. So that's that's
what the United States needs them. I mean, where would
we be with that? Albert Einstein?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
So okay, so let me ask you this. Do you
do you think that? And here's here's the biggest difference
in my opinion. And I'm just talking to like religious right.
I'm not talking abou anti Semitism. I'm talking about religious right.
Do you think that Jesus would have done and reacted
the same way that Israel did in Gaza by killing
all those innocent civilians as Israel did. Do you think

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Jesus would have done that even though you don't believe
in Jesus as a savior, but Christian values, America first values,
these American values that believe that Jesus Christ is king,
he is a savior, he is the only one. Do
you believe that he would have killed all those civilians
or do you think he would have probably done this
a little different because the Jewish people don't believe there's
a savior. They don't believe that that person. No, no,

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they don't well, no, no, no, they don't believe he
exists right now. They do not believe Jesus Christ. They're
still waiting. But they also did essentially give up Jesus
Christ to the Romans to be executor, to be crucified.
So what I'm saying is, do you think that Jesus
would have done the same things that Israel did in Gaza?

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Or do you not think that based on what you
know about Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
I think Israel acted with the utmost more responsibility yet
that any other nation could have in their conduct in Gaza.
And there has been nothing to say that it hasn't
because we don't even know how many people died. I mean,
it's all Hamas's numbers once again. So I would say
that anyone with morals who supports their people and who

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supports Western values would have conducted the same, if not
a worse job at what Israel has conducted in u
in Gaza. But I want to ask you, like, what
is the other option? What should have Israel done in
this situation Gaza.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
It's called it's called strategic tax, it's called using your intelligence,
using all of your necessary I mean that's.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
What they did.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Well, no, but no, Israel's whi civilians. Israel literally create
They intercepted pagers and put explosives in them.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
Oh god, I love that.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, I mean they did why the way, which is why?
I mean, look, I'm not disagreeing with that.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
By the way, I'm not disagreeing.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
I am not disagreeing with that. Like, if you're a Masad,
you're Israel, you have this advance intelligence. Absolutely you should
do stuff like that for sure, and you should go in.
You could, you should, you know, pinpoint accuracy, go after
the guys. Send your IDF in and and and and
go after the guys under the tunnels, in the hospitals wherever.

(59:16):
You're saying that these people are utilizing the civilian structures. Whatever,
Send your guys in, Send special forces in, send all
your dudes in, but do not kill civilians. Now you
can say and argue that that's what we've done many times.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
We have there's always civilians.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Civilians.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
No, no, no, no, I'm not saying we have to kill civilians.
I'm not saying we have not killed civilians.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I know we have. And and the thing is, I
don't know if you remember the guy Gregory. Do you
remember the guy that like killed himself blew himself up
outside of Las Vegas in the cyber truck. Do you
remember that guy, the Special Forces operator?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Okay, so that guy in part of his manifesto he
had talked about in the first section of it he
said the drones that were over New Jersey were Chinese
drones whatever. For whatever reason, he wanted to put this
in his kind of last message. And then there was
there was also this huge section to where he talked
about his involvement in killing innocent civilians. And it was

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like nine innocent civilians that he was highlighting in his tour.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
I think he was Afghanistan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
It was Afghanistan, and so he wanted to make this
He felt like in his messaging that this would be
something massive for the American people to it was almost
like a whistleblower finally coming through and saying, hey, our
military killed this many civilians. We probably knew there were civilians,
but we didn't necessarily know. That's that's like how much
America's stance on killing civilians should be. But then, but

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then compare that right to a whistleblower's going to blow
himself up in front of Las Vegas, I think the
sphere or whatever, to what Israel has done in Gaza.
It's just it's just not comparable, and and we have
to have a very high level if what do you
mean it's not comparable, Well, it's not comparable.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I agree, it's not comparable, and that Israel has done
a significantly better job than the United States and protecting
protecting civilians, which has been shown in I don't know
the conduct in Afghanistan, but I mean, like Israel, if anything.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
But gregory civilians are in Gaza too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Civilians are in Gaza too, So you can't say they've
done a better job. They've done a better job of
protecting your civilians, not Gaza civilians.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Know how many Gazan civilians would have had to die
for you to say it's okay, Like what was the number.
If let's say I don't know sixty thousand people died,
what was what would be the number for your ideal? Like,
you would be okay with it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
I don't want any civilians to die.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I mean that, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Me and done anything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
No, No, they had to do something. I get that,
But but I still go back to they are an
advanced government. And actually we had a podcast probably a
year ago to where we were talking about the most
powerful nations. We actually put Israel on number two level,
probably beyond the United States.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
You know, you think of China, you think of Russia.
That's all a bunch of hooplah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I think Israel is probably the second most powerful nation
in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
And maybe they are comparable.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
If you look at their intelligence operations, they are likely
comparable to the CIA. So the reason why I say
this is because if you have that type of operation, like,
they could have done so much better of protecting civilian life,
and they didn't because they didn't care enough to protect
those people. Because they feel like the people in God's

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in Palestine are their enemies, just like just like the
Jews are saying that those people are They're.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Going to say it's like Operation Northwood or something like.
They allow this to happen so they could go after
the people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yes, that, but I also believe Israel could have done
way better of a job a protecting civilian life any
other any other situation.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
But listen, including that it was a huge religious day
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
In no, it doesn't matter, Gregory, tell me a time
where the United States has killed that many civilians in
any war besides maybe Vietnam, because Vietnam was bad. But
tell me a time, tell me one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
War, what what? When? Has when? We So, first off,
we don't know how many civilians died in Gaza. Once again,
I'm going to go back to this point. Let's just
say forty thousand. It could be let's say one hundred thousand,
it could be ten.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Let's say forty. Let's say forty thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Forty thousand. That would mean that out of forty thousand,
out of let's say sixty thousand or sixty eight thousand
people who died, that would mean that, uh what is
that math? I don't know. Let's say one third was
combatants and two civilians. Right, plus this, I like, what
is a civilian in Gaza? It's still It's still not

(01:03:59):
very clear what is orly a civilian and what is
not a civilian. If you are harboring a rocket and
you are not actually fighting, are you a civilian? I
don't know. I mean, like, you still pose a threat
to Israel. So let's say that Israel had a one
two three combat ratio, which it probably had a much less,
but let's say it had a one to three combatant ratio.

(01:04:20):
I would still think that would be moral because Israel
is in the toughest circumstance in any other modern day
warfare in history. There has been no other modern day
urban warfare where it has been as densely populated as Gaza,
where the enemy has been embedding itself within civilians, where

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the civilians have been protecting the enemy from getting, you know,
in trouble or anything. And there has been no other
military that has been as supportive to gaz and civilians
as the IDF did. So, I mean, like this is
just the narrative that Israel is doing such a bad
job is just not true. It has done wonderful job.
Could it have done better, yes, every single military could

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have done better. The ideal circumstance would be that no
civilians died, but that's just not feasible.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Man, I look, I'm
I'm glad we're having this conversation. I'm given I'm given
my opinions to this, and you're given yours, obviously. But
I also want to talk about Marjorie Taylor Green because
we get to talk about a Republican divide, because that's
what's happening right now. The Republican base is fractured.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
And do you guys both think it's because of Israel?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Do you think it is?

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Absolutely is? I think.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
What about you? I? I think Israel is a contributor.
It's not the only reason for the divide. Its contributing
to the divide, but it's more of a divide based
off policies we have seen. For example, immigration is a
big on H one, b v'ss, all of that stuff
that that kind of goes into one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
But we're talking about a divide between.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Slationism and you know, Republicans as we see them play
out under the truck administration.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
But Gregor, we're talking about Republicans.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Tell me one thing other than Israel that Republicans are
divided on Besides well, actually, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Was Ebstein files for sure. Like they're definitely divided on that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Okay, Epstein files, Yeah sure.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
And by the way, guess what I mean, there's a
lot of things Epstein files.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Might go back to Israel as well. Gregory, how, I'm sorry,
I hate to say, in what way?

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
How does how does the Epstein files have anything to
do with it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Well, we're going to get actually, we're going to get
in that. Actually, let me let me play this Gregory
for you. This is Mark Levin. Uh you probably know,
is right. Have you ever met Mark Levin? Of course, yes,
of course I already knew. I already know. But by
the way, I want to tell people you did know
Charlie Kirk, right, I did.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
Yeah, so you had met him and talked with him, whatever,
tell us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Your experience with him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
He actually invited Yeah, he's a he's a wonderful He
was a mentor to me, and and you know, he
invited me. Actually the last time we spoke, like a
week before he died, he invited me to speak at
America Fest in December, and and then he you know
when unfortunately that everything happened. But I was very excited.
It was like a wonderful opportunity and everything. But really

(01:07:30):
he's like a lot of our conversations focused on education,
on K through twelve education because of the you know,
just in general indoctrination of children in the public school system,
and that's what we focused on because I write a
lot about that. But you know, in general, he's just
such a wonderful person and it's such a tragic loss
and what happened with him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Yeah, and Gregory, I think you know just the reason
I don't want I wanted to ask you that is
because I mean, the divide in Republican Party is huge
right now. And although we one hundred percent disagree, I
guess on the Israel topic. I can guarantee you, Gregory
that you as a seventeen year old, we probably agree

(01:08:14):
on ninety percent of everything else.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
You know, I don't agree with you on the Israel thing,
but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Agree with you, yeah, Sherry probably does, yes, But I
do not agree with you on on that ten percent, right,
which is fine, but unfortunately that ten percent is killing
an entire movement. Like Donald Trump had some of the
biggest numbers, the biggest approval ratings that any president has

(01:08:43):
ever had an election like leading into twenty twenty four,
and after twenty twenty four he was huge. He was massive,
like in Donald Trump's all terms, huge, the biggest, and
Trump had all he had all of that. And now
it's like there is this divide. Now you can say,
you can some people can say that this is a

(01:09:04):
coordinated effort from the left that's trying to divide the
Republican Party.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I truly do not. I can identify it pretty well,
like when they're when the left and when Democrats want
to actually divide, and how they do that, like it's
e they're usually race or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
But we also have to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Keep in mind that there are a lot of Democrats
that are also heavily funded by Apak right, and so
they can't necessarily try to divide the Republican Party on
Israel because they're also funded by Israel. So it's very
hard for them to do that. The one thing almost
over anything that Republicans and Democrats agree with in large
part is Israel.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
Actually no, I think there's a lot of Democrats saying well,
as a big divide.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
I mean, the Democrat Party has long gone with Israel
and jees in general, they are much worse in their
support for Israel than the Republicans are, especially the people
who get elected in the Democrat Party. So we see
that in general Democrat are very unsupportive of Israel, like
mainstream Democrats like AOC Rashida Tale beyond them are. But

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most mainstream Republicans are still very much in support of Israel.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
And by the way, those people you mentioned, like our
Muslim Muslim Democrats you're talking about AOC to Lee, those
are those are from the muddle, the Muslim side, right.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Yeah, but those are the leaders of the Democrat Party.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Yeah, those are the leaders of the party now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
And by the way, do you only tell you why
they're gonna become leaders even bigger than they are now
is Israel? Like I mean, if like ma'am Donnie, ma'am Donnie.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
I think the entire Ma'm dummy, the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Entire reason he was elected was because people felt like
he was not funded by Israel or APAK, and so
that's what led to Mam Donnie's New York mayoral election.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
I don't think that's necessarily true. Let me just just
say this real quick. I don't think that's necessarily true.
He's a socialist. There's a lot of kids greg Grey's
age and a little older that can't even get their
own homes right now, Like now, Trump is saying, We're
going to get a fifty year mortgage to get a

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house or whatever. Kids are like, what the heck, we
can't even survive on our own anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Let's do anything to get ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
So yeah, he is saying, listen, we're going to give
you guys everything we can, and we're gonna take from
the rich and give to the poor so that everybody
can have a great life. This is what socialists do.
But it doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
No, it doesn't. No, you're right, num percent.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Here's Mark Levin, Gregory, I want to play this real quick,
Mark Levin. This is what he had to say. You know,
Mark Levin's obviously a big spokesperson for Israel, even though
he's an American and he's on Box News. But you
know he's more so talking about Israel than America anymore.
So here's what Mark Levin had to say.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Listen, the cowards.

Speaker 8 (01:12:04):
We're surrounded by cowards who have microphones of TV cameras,
who have websites of columns.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Cowards.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
It's spelled c A r l s N. It's spelled
f u E and t e S. It's spelled O
w e n S. It's spelled b A n n N.
It's spelled Marjorie Trader Green. You can figure that out yourself.

(01:12:37):
And they're not alone. How are we going to attack
them on Damis and the tyl Leaves and the Omars
and the Sanders and the rest of them. When in
our own house this poison is spreading. We've got to
take care of business. We can fight the enemy on
the other side. But the problem is, the more daunting problem,

(01:13:01):
the more complicated problem, is when they're in our house
and they're trying to take over our house.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
I'm going to play the rest of this, Gregory, but
this is when Mark Levin is talking about our house,
he's talking about Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
He's not talking about America. We are America.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
I think he's talking about the Republican Party.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
Well, I think he's talking to Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
I think he's talking about Okay, well, let's play some more.

Speaker 8 (01:13:27):
Here you go, and they're burning down our house, and
they're destroying America first, and they're destroying MAGA, and they're
destroying the Republican Party, which means they're destroying the country.
Either speak up and stand out, but don't be a pretender.
Don't be a pretender. We need help to deal with

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these people. These aren't policy disputes, these aren't personality issues.
We're talking about the liberty verse, this tyranny, good versus evil,
Right versus wrong, Democracy versus terrorism, Western Enlightenment versus seventh

(01:14:09):
century barbarians, the Greatest Generation versus the Third Reich, Chamberlain
versus Hitler, Reagan versus Stalin. Is it really that tough
to call these buffoons out and to set the record straight.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
No, it's not so.

Speaker 8 (01:14:31):
I'm glad to see the courage that's pouring off this stage,
I really am. And some of them deserve a pen
on the back. But we need more. We need more,
We need more. You don't come here, say things and
go home and forget about it. I stay up at

(01:14:51):
nights thinking about this stuff, weekends, thinking about this stuff.
How we're gonna fight it, how we're gonna confront it,
how we're gonna defeat it. And you do it first
and foremost by calling it out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
That's what you do.

Speaker 8 (01:15:07):
This is America first, not the sick rantings have unaccomplished
DeAndre Tholls, who have social media sites, who've contributed absolutely
nothing to this country zero.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
What have they contributed? What have they done?

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
All Right, So there you go. I don't know that
that was Mark Levin. And let me tell you why
he is so angry at Marjorie Taylor Green. Well, let's listen,
we're gonna we're gonna play you why he's so mad
at people like Tucker Cross and Margins Green and we'll
get a couple of clips.

Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
But here you go, talk about the social media influencers.
I made two posts about this today. I find it
highly offensive as an American that social media influence can
get paid basically under the table and no one knows
who is paying them and who is sponsoring them. So
today I made two posts. I made one post calling

(01:16:10):
for any social media influencer, if they are getting paid
by a foreign country, that they have to register under Farah.
They have to register under FEARAH through the Department of Justice.
The second post I made probably about an hour ago,
is I posted that as a matter of fact, all
social media influencers they should have a badge or an

(01:16:31):
icon or a different color check mark that lets the
American people know that they take money for their post,
whether it's political, corporate sponsorships, or on behalf of a
foreign government. I think it's I think these paid social
media influencers.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Need to It's just like on TV. On you know,
you have.

Speaker 9 (01:16:51):
To talk about who is sponsoring your program. Broadcasters have
to say this, this message is brought to you buy
x Y. I think it should be the same for
social media influencers. But the biggest part, Matt, is when
it comes to them take me from foreign governments, they.

Speaker 10 (01:17:09):
Should have to disclose that they should have it should
be made available to the American people and especially our
MAGA influencers that are so called America first.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
You know, the.

Speaker 9 (01:17:20):
Biggest message they need to hear is they're not America
first if they're taking payments by a foreign government.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
And I agree with that. And Marjorie Tayler Green also
has something to say about this is what you said
to Tarry Craulson. I want to play this And then Gregory,
I got a lot to ask you because.

Speaker 9 (01:17:42):
Yeah, here you go, Jewish people, this is about the
government of Israel, this is about their military, and this
is about them demanding non stop demanding America pay attention
to Israel, do what Israel wants, fight Israel's wars, and
pay for them. And if you don't, then we're going
to come after anyone and everyone that gets in the

(01:18:03):
way of that. And if you're wondering why people are
talking about Primary and me, well it's because I don't
take any money from APAC. I've called for APAC to
be registered under Pharah. I've introduced amendments to defund all
of our American tax dollars from going to Israel every
single year, billions and billions of dollars every single year.

(01:18:24):
But I've also done that for a slew of other countries.
It's not just Israel, it's a whole bunch of other countries, Egypt, Ukraine,
you name it. I'm just like enough of the foreign aid.
But if you're if you're willing to step out and
you're actually to say, hey, we're not MEGA, we're MAGA,
and there's a major difference there, then there is a

(01:18:46):
group of people that come at you with everything they have,
and that's what they're doing. They've got bots attached to
my account that load my comment sections with ridiculous lies,
they've got paid social media influencers that literally get paid
by Israel or buy Israel aligned donors to attack me

(01:19:07):
constantly every single day. But let me tell you something, Tucker.
People are people are too smart nowadays, and that's what's great.
People have had it and I think they learned a
lot of lessons through COVID. They learned how to see
through the lies and read through the propaganda. And there
may be this like little flurry of attack on me

(01:19:27):
that exists on X you know, but out in the
real world, that's not what I feel and those are
not the comments that I get.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I go, there's Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Let Gregory respond, well, Hey, I have a question for Gregory.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Gregory, have you ever been paid by Apak or any
Jewish organization at all? Ever?

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
I have never in I'm actually thinking about this because
I don't know if I have never even been paid
by a Jewish newspaper. I don't know if that can
but no, I have never even been paid by any
sort of Jewish or Israeli organization in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
So you're not getting seventy five hundred dollars to be
on our podcast tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
If I did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I would be very happy, but unfortunately no, So when
you wrote for the Jerusalem Post, you didn't get paid
for that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
No, I actually did not. I was thinking about it,
but no, I wish I did. I should have actually
probably asked for money, but no, yeah I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
So do you believe that there are influencers that are
paid to push the Israel kind of narrative? And I
guess I guess I can say propaganda, but regardless, I
mean whether you believe it true or not. I mean,
do you believe there are people that are paid for that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
I have never heard of any credible evidence of any
sort of Jewish influencer or Israeli influencer or influencer period
being paid by Israel to spread propaganda or.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
How how did you? How did you find How did
you find us? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
I found you. I'm a I'm a listener to your show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Okay, Well, the reason I asked is because we've been
kind of critical of Israel. So I thought when you
reach out to us, is like, maybe this is Israel
or some faction that is reaching out from a seventeen
year old kid that is trying to influence a message.

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
Yeah, I guess I need half of that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I don't know. I mean, I'm just Jewish, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
So if there's anyone who knows how to you know,
get on the list of being paid, is that lows
me a lot of money? So please?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
All right? So what do you think? What do you
think is the out here on the Republican Party from Israel?
Because there is two different sides. We We've talked about
it a lot. I mean the Christian Jewish religion side.
We've talked about it from the America first versus everything else.
You said that you believe that we have to have
you know, these countries that we cooperate with or are

(01:22:04):
heavily involved with. How do you fix this problem with
the Republican Party? Because I don't think that what we're
talking about right now, I don't think this is a fix. Like,
if they're here in our conversation right now, they're gonna
be like I either completely disagree with Gregory or me.
It could be vice versa, right, or whatever, but either way,

(01:22:25):
Republicans are going to be screwed. In twenty twenty six.
I feel like that we're going to lose, yeah, in
the midterms. I feel like we're going to lose in
twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Yeah, so how do we fix it?

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
In our own like home? We are divided with this?

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Yeah, how do you fix it? Gregory?

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
I agree, and I don't. I don't think there's an
easy fix to this. But what I will say is
that the issue of Israel in general has been contested
for a long time, and there has always been a
part of the Republican Party that has not supported Israel.
Obviously not to the extent that we are seeing now,
but you know, Republicans been winning, or before this selection,
have been winning a lot. I mean, the election of

(01:23:03):
Donald Trump, the election of you know, all the Republicans
controlling you know, the House and you know, many state governments.
I mean that has provided a lot of wins for Republicans,
which naturally gives a lot of people an impression that
the Republican Party is, you know, the party that will
stay in power for ages to come or however long.

(01:23:24):
And that's why there's this divide. People feel comfortable about
allowing for this divide. People can feel comfortable about, you know,
separating from Donald Trump, because at the end of the day,
Donald Trump would still be in power. But I don't know,
let's say this happened two years ago, then there would
be no one who would ever allude to any sort
of divide within the Republican Party. Everyone would be back

(01:23:46):
in Donald Trump because we wouldn't be in power. So
I don't think there's an easy fix to this. However,
I do think the cause of this is clear, and
that is because Republicans have been winning. But as soon
as Republicans are going to start to lose again, which
already is starting to happen, that is really going to show, uh,
you know, the Republican Party in general that we can't

(01:24:07):
afford these divides.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:24:09):
Well, and it's obvious because there was a clean sweep
like last week. All these Democrats, socialist democrats are now
in roles where they're going to dictate what happens in
their cities.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Yeah, for sure. Do you believe that, you know, I mean,
especially with Israel goes. I mean there's a big thing, right,
I mean, we got a big problem.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
We got a big problem. The Israel problem is the
big problem. And do you believe that? Do you believe
that the Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Today that they're referring to on mainstream media is the
Israel the Bible talks about what do you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
Mean by that the Israel of a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
No no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Listen, listen when the mainstream media talks about that Israel
is Israel. We got to protect them, we've got to
stand by them, we've got to support them, We've got
to do all these things. Do you feel like that's
what the Bible was talking about. I think is.

Speaker 6 (01:25:08):
Talking about the Old Testament.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
I don't think the Bible references this is the current
government of Israel in any sort of way. I don't
think it alludes to the fact that somehow people are
morally obligated to protect Israel because the Bible says.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
I don't believe Netanyahu is you know, in the Bible.
But what I do believe is that the Bible, uh,
you know, alludes to the protections of morals and of
moral states and spreading moral ideals. And that's what Israel. Uh,
that's what Israel stands for. So in that regard, yes, Israel,

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including every other Western democracy that supports Judeo Christian values,
should be protected. However, definitely, it is not according to
the Bible that the United States should send money to Israel.
That's just a stupid you know point that I don't know,
I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
I agree, I agree, And in the Bible it talks
about only a remnant will remain from the original Israel.
And you know, but the problem, Gregory, for me, is
that this Israel is trying to portray to the world
that they are the Israel the Bible's talking about. And
that's my problem. It's not their Israel the Bible talks about. Well,

(01:26:23):
because I mean, they want you to believe that, like most.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
People include of religion and state.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Yeah, but I know, but surely even your stance and
like a lot of Jewish people's stance is like you
have to stand with Israel. But that's not what the
Bible says. That is completely separated from this government.

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
But it's not just because of the Bible. It's because
they are.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
I mean, there's a lot more in the Bible that
says support for Israel exactly Like I mentioned, from a
moral standpoint, the Bible protects or supports Western values and
in general, Judeo Christian values, which is what Israel stands for.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Israel, but Israel's not Western values, that is or how
is it not? Is it not?

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Israel is not Western values?

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
How is it not?

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Because Israel is not Western values, do they?

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
They are? The United States is Christian values, the Israel
is not Christian values.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
To me, what separates Western.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Christian values States is Judeo Christian values. Christian values include
the values of both religions.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Yeah, but but you're you're saying jude are Christian like that.
That's like saying Muslim Jewish.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Like Christianity is based off Judas it is religion.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
By the way, I do want to say Muslims actually
at least believe that Jesus Christ was a someone that
was going to come down and be a savior.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
Jewish people do.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
Not believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
They do not believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
No, but Jewish people believe in a lot more. Wait,
what is the argument here? Do not see how Judaism
is the basis of Christianity because.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
It is you're talking about Old Testaments Old Testament.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, okay, so but you're you're talking about the basis
of Christianity, but the basis. You can't argue basis of
Christianity when the Jewish people do not even believe in
the Look.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
Great does not go back to Jesus or it does.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Listen, the entire reason that Christianity believes in the Old
Testament is because of the prophecy Testament, the prophecies that
talked about Jesus as a savior in the Old Testament. Right,
That's exactly what Jewish people do not believe in. So
when we talk about Judeo.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Christian value is before Jesus, the Old Testament was the
Christian Christians were Jewish before they were Christian, and before
Jesus everyone believed in the Testament.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
I agree with that because they only did know the
only way that Christians came about was because of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
No, but they believed in the Old Testament first.

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
Who Christians before?

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Okay, but listen, hold on, hold on one second. One second.
The reason why Christians believed in the Old Testament was
because of the prophecy of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
No, not the prophecy of Jesus Christ, but the prophecy
and a savior.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
You get back.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
You could literally do away with the Old Testament as
Christians if it wasn't for the prophecies of Jesus Christ
the Savior.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
The entire New Testament is based off the Old Testament.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Though they yeah, I understand that, I understand it. But
you but but you, as a Jewish, believe in Jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Before before, before the New Testament, which would mean before
Jesus's time, what religion were Christians who did? What was Christianity?
It didn't exist before Jesus, right, because.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
The New Testant.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
So Christians before Jesus, Christians before Jesus were Jewish.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
But but but what what I'm saying is, what I'm
saying is like, why do you believe that Christians value
the Old Testament? What do you what do you think
in the Old Testament that they you Old Testament? For
they value the Old Testament because of the prophecies of
the Savior, of the Savior. No, they value the Old
Testament because the prophecies of the Savior, which was Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
But but what's the if they value the Old Testament period,
then that means that they value the exact values of Judaism.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
No, no, without without value, that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Is a value of moral value. But listen, that isn't shared.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
So so can you have the New Testament without the
Old Testament? Like like, as a Jew, would you believe
in the New Testament? Would you believe in a New
Testament without.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Old Wait as a what?

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Sorry, so you wouldn't believe in anything in the New
Testament as a Jew because you don't believe in Jesus
as a savior.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
Right, Well, they don't believe in the New Testament exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
But the point, the only the only reason Christians believe
in the Old Testament is because of the prophecies of
this savior with the Jewish people missed, which is Jesus.
That's the only reason that Christianity still has the Old
Testament in their Bible, the only reason.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
What what is your argument? Well, my argument, okays, no,
because Christians supported Christians supported the Old Testament before Jesus came.
Christian supported the Old Testament. So it's not because of
Jesus that they supported it. They have always been originally, Uh,
you know, the Old Testament was always a part of Christianity.

(01:31:32):
But now when there was a divide, but that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Was before, but that was before the Savior, Gregory and
there were Jews that yes.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
And when the Savior came, where the Christians. Uh, when
Christians had Jesus, they believe Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
They believe that Jesus died on the cross, that he
was resurrected and died for our sins, and Jewish people
do not believe.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
That, yes, that was a continuation of the difficult times,
a continue we should so So.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
With all that being said, then why why why do
we have to have Jewish people in our country to survive?
Like if if Christians partly that we.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Believe Jesus Savior, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
But let's know, hold on, hold on, hold on a second,
if we believe that. You know, all these laws in
America and all that and all around the world, they
say you cannot be anti Semitic. You're allowed to be
anti Muslim, anti Islam even though anti and Muslim, and
I don't think you should, no, no, no, but.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
You're you're basically allowed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
They don't have laws, they don't have these these big
groups and mainstream media going against you know, anybody that
goes against Muslims.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
They actually kind of encourage that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
I am very I think you should. I I don't
think anyone should be anti Islam. I think you should
be anti radicalism. But I am definitely not anti Islam.
I actually the Republican do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
You only tell you my problem with Muslims, my problem
with Muslims is that they have a radicalization that it
is the sword versus the cheek, right, So they believe
that if you are a non believer of their religion
based on Mohammad and whatever, then you should be like
there is this faction of the Quran that believes that, hey,

(01:33:10):
if you do not believe that you should be killed
that that there are ideas. Yeah, there are ideological factions
that believe that, but.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
But also I don't support them.

Speaker 6 (01:33:22):
Of course, of course there is ideological like fractions of
every religion. Are you going to believe in all of
them or not?

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
Well, I believe in Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
And what I'm telling you is that to me, as
an American American first America always and a Christian, I
do not believe I need Jewish people.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
Or Israel at all zero percent.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
I do believe that I will pray for the Jewish
people that do not accept Jesus Christ the same way
that I'm going to pray for Muslims and pray for
any other religion. But that does not mean that what
we talked about earlier, Gregory, with Israel, this Israel is
not the same Israel the Bible, because we know that's
not the case. Yeah, So what that means to me

(01:34:10):
is that I'm not gonna support Israel because of some
biblical narrative.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
I'm only Israel is a biblical narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Yes it is.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
You either believe the Bible or.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
You don't exactly, but the Bible does not the Bible literally,
I don't think Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
It's not a good argument. It's not fair to make
the argument that because of the Bible, you should support Israel.
But because the Bible, if you are a religious person,
supports again Western values, moral values, because of the Bible
supports that, that is why you should be supporting that
all around the world, not just Israel. But that's not
my main I.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Just I just don't think Israel. I don't think Israel's
Western values.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
I just don't think in Israel is not aligned with
Western values.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Because because if we did what we did, if the
United States did what Israel did in Gaza, we would
be the biggest piece of shin on the earth.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
But we are. But now we're going we have.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
What we have.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
We have that, yeah, we have.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
But but my point is is that I you listen,
you can't tell me that we have to have Israel
and Jewish, the Jewish religion in America to survive as Americans.
We can't. We're a Christian nation. We believe in Jesus Christ.
We don't believe in non Jesus Christ beliefs.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
We are not a Christian nation. We are a under God.
Whatever God that believes that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
I am a Christian. I'm a Christian I don't believe
in and Jews that do not believe in Jesus Christ
as a savior.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
And wait, where do you think our world would be
without Jews? Like, we wouldn't have ways, we wouldn't have
Albert Einstein. It would be a sad world, I'll be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Well, it would also probably be less controlled and less censorship.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
What censorship to Jews?

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
Okay, let me let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Let me ask you a couple of people. Uh, Lord,
Jacob Rothschild, what was his religion?

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
What was he.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
So so because because he's Jewish? How about Jeffrey.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Dahmer, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Yeah he might.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
What about not having Christians?

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Okay? But but but did Jeffrey Dahmer have like influence
over world politics and government and economy?

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
How about I don't know, Joe Biden, he was Christian
or Catholic.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Right, yeah, but I mean ship, I mean, come on, dude, he.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
Didn't have anything.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
How about what about what about George Soros? What about
George Soros? Who was he?

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Wait, but this is a student. We could continue listing
and listening, but at the end of the day, just
because someone's religion is you're okay.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
So the reason I'm going back to this, by the way,
the reason I'm going back this, I'm not I'm not
trying to go against Judaism. I'm going I'm going to
the fact that you can say that your religion is
something to be a complete piece of it, just like
Israel is trying to hide behind the Jewish anti Semitic
religion for there, in my opinion, things and actions that

(01:37:10):
I don't agree with and so so so that's what
I'm saying. Jewish people, I believe, are very good people.
I believe that I would never go against Jewish people
because they're Jewish. And do you want me to tell
you what you only tell you what I would do
for Jewish people. I would pray for them, just like
the Bible says, and I would pray for them because

(01:37:32):
I would want them to accept Jesus I would want
them to like see that Jesus is a savior. Now
are they going to do that? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:37:40):
That's not that's not whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
But I feel like the Bible when it says to
pray for the Jews, I think it's telling you to
pray for the Jews that they.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Accept Jesus as their savior. Now do I hate the Jews?

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Absolutely? But do I?

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
But do I hate Muslims?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
No, I don't. I The problem is is that like
with our gun government and Israel's government, we have a
huge divide. The Bible continually talks about the difference between
the kingdom and the people and the kingdom and the
Bible is always talking about the government, and the government

(01:38:16):
in Israel is corrupt, just like our government is. I'm
not saying there's a difference. I think our government's corrupt
as well. I think that we have not even got
into the Epstein files in Trump. And I'm not even
saying that Trump is necessarily implicated. I'm just saying that
like governments are corrupt, they are implicated. And unfortunately, right

(01:38:37):
now there are people that are that are connecting israel
government and Jews. And I don't think that's fair. That's
the same way that you would connect Americans with Biden, right, Like,
it's the exact same way.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Well, no, because Israel, Well you would connect Americans with Biden.
Of course you would, because Biden was the leader of
the United States. But what I'm saying is that the
reason why people connect Israel with Jews is because Israel
is a Jewish state. It's the only Jewish state, and
it is the only thing that is preventing another Holocaust,
for example, from occurring, because it is the only jew

(01:39:11):
state that is the defender of Jews. So that is
why it's so important. So you can't really separate too.
But again, it doesn't mean that an attack on Israel
is an attack on Jews. So I'm not saying that
I think that's wrong, But it does mean that if
you are singular, like singlely targeting Israel for no good
reason and you are trying to provoke a I don't know,

(01:39:35):
like anti Israel thing. When the United States has other
countries that it sends money to and you don't talk
about that, then it comes into question. But again, I
don't believe that just because you target Israel or someone
target Israel, it's anti Semitic. It's a stupid point.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
I think that people that are listening, you know, and
the maga divide.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
This is a huge thing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
And if we care about America right, like, we have
to be America first. So you may hate people like
Nick Fintez or Tucker Carls and it's like America first,
margin ed or Green America first. But the moment that
people start thinking that we care more about other countries
than our own, or maybe that other countries are controlling
our politics or whoever, that's when people start to they

(01:40:23):
will do anything that they will go to the other
party and vote for them. And I feared that's what's
going to happen. And and and as I was talking
about earlier, I was, I don't think this has anything
to do with Jewish people. I don't have a problem.
I mean, the only thing with Jewish people, like I
would say, like, I hope that they find Jesus right,

(01:40:44):
like or I hope they I hope they eventually come
to the realization that Jesus Christ was the Savior. Right,
That's the only thing that I have with Jewish people.
But like, is that going to tell me that, like
I hate Jewish people. No, because as Christians, as people
that are Jesus believers, you are to love everybody like

(01:41:05):
And I think that that's what I'm desperately trying to do.
I'm desperately trying to love the people in Gaza as
as much as I love the people in Israel, as
much as I love the people in Russia and Ukraine
and China. They're all people, they're all civilians, They're all
God's children. The one thing the Bible told us is
that we are all created in God's image. Doesn't matter

(01:41:26):
exactly what you look like, what your skin color is,
doesn't matter what political party you're with, doesn't matter any
of that stuff. You are all created in God's image.
And all people are innocent when they are born. Now,
however that process goes throughout life. Yes, absolutely there are
things that happen. But I feel like that we have
to be more humane, we have to be more human,

(01:41:48):
we have to be more loving and caring. I think
that's I think that's one thing that Christianity does better
than almost any religion. So if you want to talk
Gregory about the difference in Christianity versus whether it be Judaism.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
Now that Jews are Jewish people have more of that
stance than Christians.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Absolutely not, that's not sure, that's not cherry. The Old
Testament is a very violent Bible, is a very violent What.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Is what is violent about the Old Testament?

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Well, like when they went from Exodus and they went
into uh, you know, Canaan, I are Canaan, and God
commanded them to destroy every living thing in Canaan. Genocide, genocide,
and entire people.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
That is what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
No the no, no, no, no, no, no no, that is
not what the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
All right tell me what it says.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
God does not command the the people to destroy an
entire population. Uh, Old, God commands the people to do
is too?

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
Well, the Old Testament is full of stories, individual stories
which are supposed to teach you how to live a
moral life. It is not a violent Bible. And if
it were to be a violent Bible or a violent text,
then that would be the same violent text that the
Christians believe in.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Two. Yeah, But you have to understand the difference in
the Old Testament and the New Testament. Is Jesus right
like that, that is the only difference in violence and
nonviolence is Jesus.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
No, it's the difference between sacrifice and not sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
It is absolutely yeah, you're right, but it is the
only I mean, like Deuteronomy it says you shall not
leave alive anything that breathes, but you shall utterly destroy them.
The Hidiodes, the Amorites that canaanized, the Barazzis that he invites,
and the Jewrats.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Yeah, those were attacking Jews. Those were attackers of Jews.
It was a defense story. They were in war, but
they weren't be I say that the Old Testament. To
say that the Old Testament was is a violent book
is is just. I mean, do you see Jewish terrorists
like anywhere? How many? How many Christians have killed? You know,

(01:44:15):
we're murdered people compared to Jews. I'm sure the number
is much much higher.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
But you understand Christians, but you understand in the Old
Testament it talks about but listen, you understand an Old Testament,
and it talks about Knaknight, which is essentially kind of
where Godz is in that kind of general region, and
where it talks about that you should destroy all leave
nothing alive. I mean, that's what it says. Judges one
through three.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
So what is the context of that?

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Is it because because because because the Jews believe that
this was their land, because what God told them, and
then and God said you should destroy every living thing
in this land, because.

Speaker 6 (01:44:53):
God said that there was evil on the land.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
No. Yeah, absolutely, read the Bible. Read read read your
as far.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
As like the New Testament. But the Torah and the
New Testament Testament, sorry, are not like equal when you
read the Torah and then.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
Listen, I understand the New Testament.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
That's the point.

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
Very different Bibles, very different books.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
That's what I'm saying. That's the difference in Jesus and
the Torah. So so Sherry's making a great point here, Greg,
is that the Torah in some ways, like we talk
about Muslims believe in their ideological you know, beliefs on
the sword and killing people and if you don't believe,

(01:45:37):
then we're going to kill you. But literally, an Old
Testament and Torah talks about like you know, hey, here's
the people on your land. Go kill every living thing.
This is what the Bible talks about. Destroy, destroy.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
There are people that tried to kill Jews.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
Well how they try to kill them because they were
in they were, they were in Egypt. How did they
try to kill them?

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
They were in Egypt. The the Jews were in Egypt
as slaves. Yes, so how are how are those people
in a different land tried trying to kill them when
they were in Egypt?

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
Because when the Exodus happened, when Jews left Egypt to
uh wander for forty eight nine years I believe it
was twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Nine Yeah again cast out?

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Sorry, then they were they were they were wandering to
their land. What is the what is the point here?

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Like and and this is the exactly You'll tell you
what the point is. The point is, here's my point.
You have a thug and this is my open. You
have a thug that goes out and kills people because
someone or some group or some gang leader tells them
to go kill someone on this block, right, And then
you have someone that comes along to this gang and says,

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do not kill them because they are also people, like,
we cannot kill them.

Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
They are people, they're they're innocent, they are were.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Of what we think. They are good And and you know,
Jesus watched defeat of thebes, He watched the feet of
the people that were against him that's the difference in
religion than Jews.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Do I mean Christian? The Romans killed.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
Jews, but Romans were not really Christians.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
I mean, come on, they are Catholic, even in Spain.
In Spain, in Spain, Jews were exiled from their land
and killed. Hitler was Christian?

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
So I mean, I mean, come on, no, no, what
the Bible says. Do you really think Hitler was Christian?
Based on what the New Testament and Jesus believed.

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
Do you really think, I know, you can claim anything.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
I mean, okay, did you by Christian values or to
keep follow his religion? I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
Okay, well, Lily asked me. That is bb NET and
Yahu and the government following with.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Jewish values.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Very much. So.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
So exactly, you're making my point. You're making my point
when they left came, when they left Egypt and there
this was during exodus, and then God committed them to
go kill every living thing in this in their land.
You made a great point.

Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
Yeah, and they't, No, but they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Well, they didn't, so then God, so then God cast
them out to.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
Now who is not killing everything in their land? To
now who if you are telling me that you know Israel,
which in your own words, has nuclear bombs, has is
the second most powerful nation on earth, and couldn't manage
to kill more than I don't know, forty thousand civilians
in Gaza, then, I mean that's not having up. If
they were the most powerful nation on earth, they would

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be killing millions.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
But Greg, what happens if you go out in your
street right now and kill one person?

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
What's going to happen to you?

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
If I kill a random person?

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
And okay, right here, let me let me give you
a better example. So someone robbed your house, right, that
person escaped, But you kill some random person and that
had nothing to do with it. What do you think
is going to happen to you?

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
In America? Under our laws?

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
I would get arrested, you go to prison, right, You're
go to prison? Yeah, So how is it any different
than Israel? They're killing innocent civilians?

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
People that are they are? In World War Two? You
know how many British civilians that you know how many
civilians were being killed in Germany?

Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
Like, but but listen, should I listen?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
I'm trying to make a point. I'm trying to make
a point.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
I'm like, listen, my my My only.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Point is here, and I want to make some very clear.
I love Jewish people. I I I hope what listen.
If I believe in the Bible, I believe that all
Jewish people, the remnant or whoever, will see the Savior
in the end.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
Oh, And I want to talk about that for a minute,
because Chad doesn't think the remnants of Jewish people still
exist in Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
There's very few. There's very few.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
Yeah, can you like talk about that?

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Well, I'm saying ethnically, there's very few actual Jewish people
from the Bible that exists still today, very few. So
most Jewish, most most Jewish, most most most Jewish people,
that's true. But Judas it was, it was kind of
like Christians. I mean, it's the same thing like with
Christians that after Jesus the people that walked with him.

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How many of those people exist today? Probably not very well.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Obviously, but they were almost old Jews. They're almost Jews
are ethnically Jewish because Judaism is very strict on converted
conversion and everything like that. So if you're a Jewish,
who are most likely ethnically Jewish? Now, obviously there are
not many ethnically Jewish people in the world. It's only
zero point two percent of the population. But what does
that what does that prove?

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Well, well, I mean, I'm saying it proves the point
of the.

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Erase topic about Jews.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Right, So if you're if you're talking about like, you're
racist if you go against Jews, then obviously if you're
talking to someone or going against someone that has pointing
zero two percent of original jew people, Like, how many
people do you think in America actually talks shit about
Jewish people that are point zero two percent of the

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original Jews. So then that completely takes away the racist crime.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Six out of all hate crimes in America, sixty nine
percent of them or geared towards Jews, so a pretty
significant amount.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:35):
It's a statistic.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
It's all right, show me that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
I mean, listen, show me that statistic is is that
over the past what three years?

Speaker 5 (01:51:44):
It's got to be It's got to be over the
past three years.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Likely, I think it's I think it's most updated. I'm
what are you are you like? What other group is
more hated than Jews?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Probably Blacks? Yeah, I would I would probably have to blacks.

Speaker 5 (01:51:59):
Sorry, I'm ras this.

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
I'm just saying like black people might be hated one,
but also white people in general might be hating.

Speaker 6 (01:52:07):
Second, I think white people are up there now.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I think it's like black white very close.

Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
Second, what happens if you're a white like girl that
has Jewish like dissent descent. Sorry, you're gonna have to
but what happens with that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Well, it doesn't matter you're white and you're Jewish shows
so fine. But but your point, though, Gregor, is that
you know, the hate crimes against people are anti Semitic,
and maybe maybe you're right over the past couple of years, right,
and I and I go back to this, I think
that this is constructed. In my opinion, Let's talk about

(01:52:49):
this before we before we exit this. Let's talk about
this before we exit this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
All of the.

Speaker 5 (01:52:55):
Protests on college campuses.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
Right, So, if we go to the Conservative of Action
movement to where they said that a lot of these
protests like BLM and ANTIFA, they're all funded, they're all coordinated,
they're all organized, and so with ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter,
all this stuff is it's all been constructed by George Soros,
Open Society Foundation, all these organizations, And so are are

(01:53:20):
we saying that the anti Jewish movement that happened a
couple of years ago on college campuses? Are we are
we saying that they're not coordinated and funded because we
do have evidence that they were also funded by George Soros.
So so go back for a minute. George Soros is Jewish? Right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Yeah, you could be a self hating Jew. Bernie Sanders
as an example, you be a self hating Jew.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
But what if?

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
But what if you're utilizing jew hate for your cause? Right?
So what do you mean? So so let's just say that, like,
you know, for example, if I wanted to make a
cause out of some thing, I wanted to get mainstream media,
I wanted to really hype up like this agenda against
Jews or against Israel or against whatever, it's where it's

(01:54:09):
kind of like a.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Proof is there that Israel is funding any of this?
So is there any proof of that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:13):
What George Soros is he Jew?

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Because you're Jewish doesn't necessarily mean your Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
Okay, what about Lord Jacob Rothron, he was the one
that founded Israel. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
So so tell me how he didn't found it, founded Israel,
but he's literally the one that wrote the doctrine from
Israel to establish Israel as a state in the UN.

Speaker 5 (01:54:43):
Yeah, Jacob Rothschaw, it is not what he.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
Has absolutely nothing to do with the establishment of Israel
other than through a ceremonial role playing in that exactly.
How Well, there's a lot of builldings. Okay, so a
lot to do with the states.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
Do you think I don't know what, gregor do you
do you think that's sorry? Do you think it is
a coincidence that you said this you said this earlier.
I'm not saying this that all these people that fund
or are over like mega organizations, whether it be mainstream media,
tech companies, whatever, a lot of these people are Jews.

Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
So so you think it's just because they're just smart,
that that's how.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
It's I don't believe Jews are inherently smart. That's a
stupid assumption that a lot of people fall into. It's
because of the Jewish culture. Jews in general value education
much more than other religions, Uh, simply because it's it's
a cultural thing, and that is why so many Jews
tend to Uh, you know, get up in society because

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of the value in education. For example, in Hasidic communities
which are ultra Orthodox.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
You know, those are very very poor communities, but still
their parents of children spend all of their money to
send their children to yeshiva in private school so they
could learn and you know, excel in education. So when
a culture is based off education, those people who are
you coming out of that culture are going to be
very successful. That's shown by Jews.

Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
Well, Greg, the one thing I want I wish I
could instill in you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
I'm forty years old, I've been kind of around this
blog for a while, and I know you're smart, by
the way, there's no question. I just wish I could
instill something in you for you to think a little
bit like just like I want you to have like
one little faction, even if it's five percent. Like when
you write an article or you're thinking about a subject

(01:56:45):
about Israel or the United States America first divide on
Republican politics, I want you to think a little bit
about me. Every time you write an article. I want
you to just think about I just want you to
think about my stance on it, like I and and
the reason I ask you, I said, are you paid
by anybody?

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
Which I don't necessarily believe you're not paid by anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
I don't, I don't. I mean, I know you're paid
by somebody. You don't write articles for free? I would assume, no.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
I don't. But I'm not paid by Israel. I'm paid
by the same people that pay every other American or
I'm paid by those who employ me, which is okay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
Well, let's let's talk about that for a second. So,
and you don't have to if you don't want to,
but you are paid, I don't. Well, you you are
paid by organizations news media organizations. Have you looked into
like who pays them?

Speaker 8 (01:57:41):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
So do you think that there's no Israel influence in
any of your media posts?

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
And like?

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
So, for example, if you're writing an article, what if
what if you on one of your news articles you
wanted to go out against Israel, say say that after
the podcast? Right, let's just give a good example.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
I could do that in a heartbeat right now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
No, after this no, no, no, let let hold on
after this podcast tomorrow, you write an article, you send
it to your editor or whoever, and you say, this
is why Israel is bad for America. That's the title, right.
Do you really think that that ship's going to get
published in the things that you write for right now?

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Really you really think that?

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty confident as long as it's not open
the heatful or anything abides by every other standard. If
I write an article about Israel's i don't know, negative whatever,
it would get published, especially about most outlets.

Speaker 5 (01:58:43):
All rights challenge.

Speaker 6 (01:58:44):
Well, no, let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
I don't want to write an article about antis.

Speaker 6 (01:58:52):
Ask him though, have you wrote anything that has been
kind of critical of Israel? Like first stance?

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Yeah? I just wrote an article about the divide in
the Republican Party and about how we should stop Uh
like I complimented Truckle Carlson. Actually I complimented him as
a nice person. Uh, he's not anti Semi. I actually
wrote that article. I got a lot of pushback, but
I published it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
Okay, all right, Well there's.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
More back for articles that are pro asdrell am I
experience than there is for anti zer articles.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Yeah. Well, and and the reason I say this because
like when I heard you were seventeen, and you're you know,
probably the youngest syndicated.

Speaker 6 (01:59:39):
You're so smart, you are for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
And listen. I mean that's why anybody that tries to
say that like we're just going on one narrative, like
I wanted to bring you on. I knew you had
a different opinion. I already knew that, but like, like
tell your opinion, you know, talk about it and and
and let people decide, right, I mean, that's that's what
we should would be having conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:00:01):
Yeah, and this gives our audience another way to decide,
because it's not so easy for me to debate. But
when I have somebody like Gregory coming to debate.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's great. I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
I don't. I don't agree with a lot of stuff, right,
And and people, people that listen to this episode, they're
gonna be able to kind of hear, you know, like
do they believe you versus me and my thoughts and
your thoughts. That's that's up to them.

Speaker 6 (02:00:29):
That's it's not black and white. It's great, it's great, but.

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
You can get you could get in you could maybe
get into some black and white. I think I could,
if you know, if we really want to do that.
I don't and Gregory probably feels the same. Uh, but
let's talk about this for a second Gregory before we go.
I know we're at two.

Speaker 6 (02:00:50):
Hours, I know, but this is so like fun. I
love having him on.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Yeah, last thing, Ebstein bos We we talked about this earlier.
I think that number one the reason why Democrats everybody's like, well,
if Trump's involved in these Epstein files, they would already
release them.

Speaker 5 (02:01:11):
And and so who was they?

Speaker 3 (02:01:13):
Who was they? Who is the they that would release them? Well,
we know Gislaine Maxwell, her father and her entire family
was Masade. We know that for sure, which is Israeli intelligence?

Speaker 4 (02:01:26):
Well, no, we don't know that for sure. What we did,
yeah we father was the father was a.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
For like a year.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
But that that was That was it. That's not that's
not a big anyway. But think about this, right, I mean,
so there have been some emails that are being released
that are kind of trying to implicate Trump, right, and
it's like it's weird because we we likely know that,
you know, probably Bill Clinton, a lot of these Democrats

(02:01:57):
are on these lists. They're they're they're going to be
heavily implicated. But right now Trump is the president, and
now you have this huge divide in the Republican Party.
And I think the reason why that someone leaked these
emails is because they want to tell Trump in a
way that's like, hey, we got this shit on you,

(02:02:17):
so just keep this in mind, like we still have
way more than this, So you better follow along with
our orders. You better follow along with what we want
you to say.

Speaker 6 (02:02:28):
Somebody is Israel? Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
I think Israel is the is the cardholder here, I
really truly do.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
I think that. I think that, And this is my opinion.
I don't know for sure. When we talked about Epstein.
We know like political black mail happens. We know that
that does happen. We know the CIA has done that.
We know like Bohemian Grove, George W. Bush, that whole
place to where they would have sex with each other,

(02:02:56):
they were all dudes over in Bohemia and Grove in California.
That happens. But like if Cash Betel and the Trump
administration comes in and if they actually had access to
these files, I don't think anybody has access to these file.
I don't I don't think Democrats, don't think the Republics.
I think someone else does, and they're controlling the power structure.

(02:03:19):
Do you, Gregory, do you believe like Israel has too
much influence in our politics? I almost feel like that
Israel has taken over our country, and I think that.

Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
If it, well, that goes into a pack and all
that stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
Yeah, Apac, we can talk about all that, But if
we go back specifically to Epstein files, I feel like
that the reason they're slow releasing these emails is because.

Speaker 5 (02:03:45):
They're black mail and Trump.

Speaker 3 (02:03:47):
Right now, they're they're blackmail and Trump to the point
where they're saying, all right, guys, hey, here's here's a
few emails we're releasing. Oh now, we're going to do
this in Washington posts, and if you do not go
on board with us, we're going to release other shit.
So when some people say that, I don't believe at all, Like,
for example, Alex Jones recently did a piece and he said,

(02:04:07):
I don't think that Trump is implicated in having sex
with young kids at all, But someone I believe it's
black Mellen Trump because I don't know how else do
you explain some of the stuff has happened. So are
you are.

Speaker 6 (02:04:25):
You're talking about calling it at hoax?

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
Yeah, well, the hoax thing all that, Gregor, do you
believe the Epstein files exist? And what do you think
about Trump saying that they are a hoax?

Speaker 4 (02:04:40):
Well, when we say do the Epstein files exist? Do
files that pertain to Jeffrey Epstein's case exist? Yes, that's
common sense. We have twenty thousand of them that just
got released. And when he says that it's a hoax,
is he referencing that it's a hoax in that Republicans
or he is not implicated in that. Yes, I do

(02:05:03):
not believe that Donald Trump is implicated in it. I
believe in that way it as a hoax, and I
believe the media is trying to frame it in a
way that is just wrong. And I wrote several articles
about this over the last week. But I do believe
that the major reason for Donald Trump's reluctance in actually
publishing or releasing the Epstein files stems from the fact

(02:05:26):
that multiple of his you know, himself and all of
the people around him are going to be in the
Epstein files. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're you know,
they're they're guilty of anything. For example, Alan Durschwitz, he
was not guilty of anything, but he still was in
the Epstein files because he was Epstein's lawyer. So I

(02:05:48):
think it's an important distinction. That's why he doesn't I'm
not saying I agree with this, but he doesn't want
to release ebpscene files because he wants to protect the
people around him and himself from being falsely accused or
being thrown under the bus by the media, which happened
several times.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Yeah, yeah, I get I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
And Gregory, by the way, I hope that you're not.

Speaker 3 (02:06:10):
Infiltrated. I hope you're not. I mean I was talking
to Cherry about this. I said, Greg's coming on, he
is reaching out to us. I was like, maybe he
is an Israel Israel paid asset. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:06:24):
Well, I already told you I want half the money.

Speaker 3 (02:06:27):
Yeah right, But I hope you're not. I mean, I
really do.

Speaker 5 (02:06:31):
I think you're a smart guy for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
I mean, you know, and we could got into so
much more debate on the Israel situation. But I just
hope you're not a paid asset. I hope you I
hope someone's not controlling you and telling you what to say.

Speaker 6 (02:06:46):
I don't think they are. Because of his stance where
he comes from, his religion all that, and you know,
his dance is way more on my side than it
is yours. And I'm not getting paid either, I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
I just no. But also Greg is on Newsmax and
Fox and we've sent him on a lot of stuff.
So how do you at seventeen get on all those platforms?
Is my question?

Speaker 4 (02:07:12):
That makes sense by being intelligent with the people who
you are around. That's how I say. There's no other
answer to that. But I think anyone can do it
if they just put their mind to it. And I
know it's a cliche and whenever, but it's true. Like
if you just work as hard as you you should,

(02:07:34):
you can accomplish anything and you can get anywhere with that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:07:39):
All right, Well, so so you don't believe in Jesus?

Speaker 3 (02:07:42):
Right? Can can we do another episode to where I
try to convince you of Jesus versus not Jesus.

Speaker 4 (02:07:47):
I would. I would love to.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
I would.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
I would love to, but it's not going to work
on me. But you know, I would like to come
on the show. It was a very wonderful experience. Yeah,
is very thankful.

Speaker 3 (02:07:59):
Well, Greg, thank you so much man for coming on.

Speaker 8 (02:08:02):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
By the way, you have a podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:08:03):
Want I want to make sure that everybody knows before
we leave, what is your podcast?

Speaker 5 (02:08:07):
Where do people need to follow you? Where do people
need to support you?

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
And by the way, Greg, you better freaking support us,
You better share our shit to do your thing.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
So of course, of course you can follow me. My
podcast is called Patriot Perspective or the Patriot Perspective. It's
the official Gateway Pundit podcast. You can search it up
on Rumble and you'll find it there. You could just
search it up with my name and yeah, that's where

(02:08:34):
you could support it. On YouTube. We actually just launched
on Rumble recently, so if you want to give us
follow there you can. And in regards to you know,
your show, I mean I would love to share this
episode definitely whenever it's released, So please send it to me.

Speaker 3 (02:08:53):
We'll do We'll do well, Greg, Thank you so much, man,
many more shows.

Speaker 5 (02:08:59):
Yeah, you have right, you have a bright future. I
don't agree with you on everything obviously, Yeah, but I
just I.

Speaker 6 (02:09:05):
Love that you're fresh and you just like have your
opinion and you have facts out.

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
He's like the opposite of Nick one does. He's like
nick fun Tes kryptonite, I think is what he is.
It actually would be interesting to have him and Nick
fun T has on a on a debate. I would
love to, And he's seventeen Nick fun T was.

Speaker 4 (02:09:26):
I would be very excited for that something.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
Yeah, Like I mean, you know, at some point time,
Nick fun Tes was seventeen eighteen. Yeah, and Nick nick
Funs was just like you, just like you bro the
same beliefs, the same not necessarily Jewish beliefs, but like
the same kind of like Republican conservative.

Speaker 5 (02:09:45):
Values and morals. And and then one day he got
screwed over because he questioned Israel.

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
And that's what. If you want to see the result
of why Nick fun does is Nick fuinn does. That's why.

Speaker 5 (02:09:56):
So I don't know what that means, you' on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
We have not had Nick on.

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
We've had Ian, we've had you know a lot of others,
but we've not had Nick on.

Speaker 8 (02:10:07):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:10:07):
I I I know he listens, I know he follows
and listens to us, but we've not had Nick on
because I'm not necessarily gonna agree. The only thing I
would disagree with Nick on is the anti Jewish stuff.
I mean, like the way he comes out against Jews
in general. I don't agree with uh the same way.
The same way he talks about like blacks and whatever.

(02:10:28):
He's he goes hard.

Speaker 6 (02:10:31):
Yeah, and he says the N word all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:10:33):
Yeah, that's like his thing.

Speaker 5 (02:10:34):
But that that's like a shock and all.

Speaker 6 (02:10:36):
Yeah, that's how he gets views.

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
Absolutely, it does.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
Yeah, And and I would guarantee you that Nick does
not believe a lot of the shit he says. But
I but I what I do think that Nick believes
is the America First policy. I do want, like one
agree that Nick believes America first.

Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
Yeah, and America first, like KK America all America.

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
No, no, no, he believes Americans first and screw everybody
else around the world. That's what he believes. And and
you can debate that.

Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
We talked about that earlier, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:11:15):
And greg you know, if we can ever, if we
can ever have a podcast with Nick and we're bringing
you on, seventeen year old guy, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
Amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:11:25):
You're definitely on the opposite side of Nick, for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:11:27):
I think it would be amazing, Like because Gregory did
it great.

Speaker 4 (02:11:32):
That would be the best podcast I've ever listened to.

Speaker 5 (02:11:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he did a good job.
And and I and I pushed back.

Speaker 3 (02:11:39):
I just I just don't want to, you know, I
just I want more people to listen to your side.
They know my side, and so you know, I pushed
back a little bit, but like, I'm not trying to
convince necessarily. I just want people to hear your side.

Speaker 8 (02:11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:11:53):
And it was refreshing to hear his side because his
side is my side.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
Yeah, probably so yeah, yea, you're right, all right, Gregory. Well,
we're gonna leave it if you want to stand by
for a second. If you don't, it's fine. We're gonna
play this out. We're gonna play this out. Uh, this
is be free with me bye seeing Sorry I had
I had to look at the name. Uh this will
be free with me by seeing guys listen, go check

(02:12:20):
us out on all of our social media. We have Telegram.
We also have a new song coming out very soon. Man,
it's gonna be right Chris March, Christmas March for sure. Yeah,
we got Christmas March.

Speaker 4 (02:12:31):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (02:12:32):
We love you all so very much. Until next time,
we love.

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
You, zones. We'll get away to a place we we
don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:45):
About to see the worthy next shot, Well we again
be like we know, distract sh We'll get away.

Speaker 2 (02:12:55):
This is what we Take my hand, We'll make it somehow.
We can miss out.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
I'm done, leave belive with delights out, don with moun down,
be free with me, afraid when baby.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
Now, I'm looking back, eyes on to be, wave body
and clight. A classic clichehade around her mom. This is
what we waited for. Take my hand full, make it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
Somehow we can in this style, I'm done, leave alive
with delights outdime with mounds, be.

Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Free with me, friend with me, bab befrey with me. Hey,

(02:14:54):
let me go, befreen.

Speaker 8 (02:14:58):
With me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
Oh, come on, and let's school.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
Let me.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
With me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
Yeah, beef beef afy

Speaker 4 (02:15:19):
With me

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