Just 4 Kicks: What's an Offseason?

In today's episode of Just 4 Kicks KaShara Garrett and Kristi Scales join the crew to talk about DCC prep classes, working with Queen and answer your questions!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Just for
Kicks broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Star in Frisco. Now your hosts Judy Tremmell, Hayley Anderson,

(00:27):
and Kelly fen Blast. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to
Just for Kicks, where we have girl talk that maybe
men want to listen to. Hey's everybody got their phones down,
phones down, super personality, remove life stress. You can see
my big pile here if you can see us. We're
working on the Cheerleader swimsuit calendar trip, We're working on

(00:50):
our twenty twenty training camp. We've got this big We're
fullest up today. We are. It's the off season, but
it's never an AWFU season. I want to come up
with a a word for that. We have our turf
season and the non turf but people always think we
have an offseason. And I feel like I've been busier
this last week than during a football game week. It's crazy.

(01:11):
It has been busy. So before we get into why
we're busy and overwhelmed, we have CASHERA. Garrett in the house. Wait,
we need some plows. More so if you're listening and
you can't see Kashera, Kaushara is with us after four
years of being on the sideline, and now she's taken

(01:31):
a very special role with us on our staff and KASHERI.
You may not realize this, but last week and just
for Kicks, Daphnew was in here and we were actually
kind of brought to an emotional moment when we were
talking about her being issued as a rookie her practice boots.
She let the cat out of the bag and called
him the trash can boots. Trash cans, so we're rebranding

(01:53):
those as pre worn practice boots. But what she said
became so meaningful. She said, her practice boots that were
issued to her, they are game one because they're broken
in and there they are rehearsal boots until somebody to
get some new boots. Hers had your name in it,
she said, My boots were had Cashara's name written in them.
And when I saw that I was going to be
dancing in Cashara's boots, she said, I just was filled

(02:17):
with emotion and it was so special for her, and
so I just made something to talk about. Do you
realize that to put her name next year next to
write her name on them. Also, it's funny that we
put our names in all of our practice where because
the locker room, especially at Valley Ranch, was so small,
we just run in, throw our stuff down and run

(02:38):
back out, and people would not they would accidentally pick
up someone else's where's my left boot out of the
field and they're like, we gotta get out there, and
you're sweating already because it's the middle of summer in Texas.
But I have like fond memories of getting a pair
of shorts. They're a belt that has um Kinsey's name
in it, right, you know, And when you do see that,

(02:59):
the it's years of hard work put in by these
certain people and they're ones that you look up to.
So it definitely does add a different element of inspiration
and motivation to your summer and each practice might well.
We told Daphne those were big boots to fill, and
I don't know, it's just super cool. Maybe maybe that
can be a series here of whose boots are you wearing?

(03:21):
Because it really meant something to me that it meant
so much to her, So welcome to just for kick.
I'm glad to be here. Thanks, So tell everybody now
that you did retire your boots and your palms. What
have you been doing? Oh? We So it was a
long summer of trying to figure out where who I
was kind of I guess you know, this is such

(03:42):
a journey of redefining yourself and you kind of cling
to that identity of being a DCC wearing the uniform.
So my whole summer was kind of spent trying to
figure out, like who I am and what I can
bring to the table is as me as cash and
for enough and beyond blessed and now get to work

(04:03):
with you all every day. And I think my four
years on the team not only helped me grow when
ioequep us in this word, but grow as a person
and a teammate, but it's also helped me learn so
many valuable just characteristics that I can apply in the

(04:24):
office and on the staff side of things to help
make sure that the cheerleaders are running at their optimal
ability and being able to provide that kind of inside
like ideas and things that the girls I know that
they either we struggle with or ideas that they have
from the inside, which has probably been my biggest thing,
But I'm just excited to get the cheerleaders out in

(04:45):
front of more people and expand kind of our organization. Well,
speaking of expansion, just two because SHARE's horn a little bit.
For those of you if you haven't gotten to see
DCC in Motion, you can link through our Instagram account
write cash and cash was able to bring to life
kind of an idea that we've had in our department
for a couple of years, which is showcase the dancing

(05:08):
talents of our cheerleaders off the turf and really kind
of showcasing their different strengths in different genres of dance.
And it took you joining our staff to really get
that started and it's something we're very proud of. Can
you speak a little bit to how the DCC in
motion where you're going on sets and how y'all are

(05:29):
working with the music and the choreography and just showing
this entirely new side of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Yeah,
DCC and Motion has been a great partnership that we've
gotten to work with with our pro shop and they
a lot of the outfits that the girls wear their
own costumes that they've got to put together themselves. But
the pro shop provides the clothing in the top, so
it's straight fanware that you can purchase in Dallas Cowboys

(05:51):
pro shops anywhere. And the girls, we've kind of divided
them up into groups based on their strength of dance styles,
whether it's jazz, palm, hip hop, lyrical, contemporary. And it's
a great way for the girls to show what they've
worked on their entire lives. So many people think, you know, oh,
they just go out on the sidelines and check their palms.
They can do the high kicks and stuff, but they

(06:12):
don't see the twelve plus years the spin right, And
so we're able to go around the Star. We have
such a beautiful headquarters here anyways, with all these iconic locations,
and we're able to plug the girls into this environment
where you wouldn't expect them to be dancing. And it's
been great because once people see it, they're like, oh,

(06:33):
I recognize that, Like I know where that is. It's
super cool because you have found so many golden nuggets
here at the Star. The Star is ninety acres of
beautiful development and art and sparkles and lights and color
and texture and Kashara's storyboarded and created creative directed. You know,

(06:54):
all these little dance vignettes that not only showcase the
cheerleaders like they've never been shown before ever. While at
the same time you're getting letting people all over the
world have a peek at these incredible headquarters. I'm seeing
stuff in DCC and much and I'm like, where was that. Yeah,
a lot of these places are around stairwells that you know,
you don't get to see on the guided tour if

(07:16):
you tour the Star. But my favorite aspect of it
is when I give the girls their groups, or we
select a soloist and you present them the music, they
take it and they choreagraph this on their own right,
so that shows their talent at a whole different level
on their own. And then the best is when the
groups can collaborate and work together. So it might be
a rookie in event working together and or two rookies

(07:36):
and two bits and they work together to create this routine.
It comes together beautifully and just almost re teaching that
teamwork and why it puts new people together. Then yes,
that may not be in the group that a year
that didn't necessarily have as much in common except their
style of dance. Well, I'm very proud of the series
and you've done a great job, and I think that
does help blend what you were saying. Who am I?

(07:58):
This is still your dance, is still your passion, This
is still dances, is still performance. Now you're creative directing
with the music and our music library. I'm sitting here thinking,
if uh, if Judy and I were doing a DCC emotion,
what would put and would you want us to twirl?
We can twirl, we could twalk? Would you like? What
would have us? Where would you take us? And what

(08:21):
could you have us do? And I'm putting you on
the spot. We can come back if we need to.
I want to see me now twirling? Okay, yes, if
my friends could see me now? Or I mean you
could always go to the um. What is that? Oh,
let's see something about like better than I've ever been?
If you could find simply the best, yes, yes, seeing

(08:43):
a turner, Yes, simply ma'am throw that baton up. I
would probably put you, okay, twirling the simply the best? Oh,
Cowboys fit has a beautiful rooftop view that overlooks kind
of the entire Star facility, the entire you want a
standing by a swim pool. Yeah, seriously at sunset. Oh gosh,

(09:03):
challenges a lot time. We'll just dive in to it. Well,
if you haven't had a chance to check these out,
you got to check them out. And because Share, you
guys are doing a new series yesterday and today and
that will be released when this summer. So we're finishing
up releasing the videos from last fall's filming and then

(09:25):
this year we're going into UM starting in April all
the way through August. Well we'll we filmed twelve videos,
so they'll be released UM in a timely manner kind
of every couple weeks or so. But it's um. It's
a great way. You know, I almost forget because we
film all of them back to back and then when
one of them dress, like, oh my gosh, I forgot
about that one. It was so great. That's awesome. I've
gotten so many compliments. And you see them playing everywhere

(09:47):
in the Stars and the Girls Headquarters public each other up,
like they were running into my office saying you should
go out there and see so and so in her
costume and and wait till you see this one. They
they're getting excited for each other and not even their piece.
I think season two is going to be great just
with the elements that you guys brought in. And we
actually one of the songs was one of our coworkers. Yeah,

(10:09):
and she that's right. It was to certain Taylor star sister.
So she released one of her songs for us to
do DCC emotion and she had sent a clip of
Rachel doing it and she said it brought a whole
different meaning from when I wrote it to watching I'll
do it. Well, we've definitely seen that with musicians where
we've danced to their music. I can't think of Blank well,

(10:30):
Casey Musgraves when she came and we danced to help
me started in a cafeteriat smoke something but smoke, that's it. Yeah,
what's the blow and smoke? And when she was a
guest and she watched the cheerleaders because the blown smoke
was kind of sassy and dinerish and small townish, and
the girls kind of really made it sexy and steamy,

(10:51):
and she was like, wow, that made my songs totally
look different. Well, so, okay, so you're filming those and
then if um, when miss Stearne is here from Ashville, Yes,
we'll have to get her in. We'll have her in
and maybe we can all talk. But big things, bold vision.
It's great things happen here. We're very proud of it. Um.
Speaking of we, I think Hayley's got all of our

(11:12):
podpal questions, tiga. And since we have share here, I think,
do we have some people that want to ask a
share of some stuff? Or we do? We can go
ahead and ask him now, or we can wait and
did I go off on the track. Let's see you
want to ask. Let's ask a couple and then we'll
maybe take a break and come back for more perfect Okay,
let's go for the first warm us up um. And

(11:35):
these are coming from These are coming from Instagram, Instagram?
Are you a Twitter person or an Instagram or I'll
do it for the Graham? Okay, sorry, I did it
for the Graham. Love it. So this is from Danielle
Alread twenty seven. She says, are you planning to stay
in Dallas for the long haul or go back to Kentucky?
Just the simply saying for the long haul? It's are

(11:57):
you staying here for the long haul? Well, she's pulling
her hair. That makes me nervous. Right there. That's what
the girls and Bachelor. Do you have a new job
that somebody? Are you staying? I know, and I'm like
my bosses are sitting in front of Dallas has become
very special to me, M and I do love being

(12:17):
able to work for the Dallas Cowboys. So for now, um, yes,
Dallas has become home. And um my five year plan
is to get my parents to Texas. I've heard love
to get my mom and dad to move down here,
and I think they'd like it. But there's just something
beautiful and wild and wonderful about Kentucky. So are you
and are they open to going from Kentucky to Texas?

(12:39):
Would the motivation be just for you guys to be
closer together. Everybody tells me I need to have kids
and then my parents would be here in heartbeat? Are
you a knowing child? Yeah, just me and my mama
would have been here. Now it makes sense, No, it doesn't.
I don't think she acts like an only child at all.
How does it make sense to you? Judy see me?
Probably really, Daddie, Yeah, I can see her being an

(13:02):
only child. Well, my mom has a cheer jam back
came so I had all kinds of kids around me,
like growing up, So I don't really feel like I
got that. Usually if our cheer team got in trouble
or was talking, it was me that got in trouble.
Oh not you know from coaches kid, Yes, so it's
had I had that kind of interactions. It was always
my fault kind of thing. So maybe you've taken the

(13:24):
blame taking the bullet many times in your tenure here.
We won't bring that up, but now you've got me curious.
So Kentucky cashera high school annual. Do y'all have the
where will I be? Do you tell us about Kentucky
Casher in high school? Is there was there any foresight,
in any predictions of when I grow up? I want
to be dot dot dot. I enjoyed growing up in

(13:46):
urban Kentucky. I had a great time living there, and
I guess in high school I didn't really think that
I would even in college, Like I didn't really think
i'd leave my family and go that far away. Um,
but I did always kind of you out of place.
I guess more or less you thought they were. I
felt like other places to grow Yeah, like my um

(14:08):
like what I enjoyed most wasn't necessarily like thriving there.
Did you get a small town fever? You wanted to
break out of small town? Yeah, a little bit, and
it really I just didn't really feel like I fit
in super like a whole lot. I mean, and I had.
I'm not saying that I was an outsider the whole
time or just like a loaner by myself, but I
made the best of my situations. But I did feel
like I was always wanted other opportunities. I always wanted more.

(14:29):
But you were born and raised in urban, urban urban Irban.
It's Irvan. It's spelt like Irvine, California, but we say
urban like my whole Okay, well, any to you open
your mouth, you get people's attention for sure. You were
born and raised in Irban. Yeah, same house, same street, Yeah,
same street, popped down the road a little bit, but
and that's where your parents still are. Yeah. Okay, So

(14:51):
you want to put some wheels on their house and
drive it to Texas. Yeah? I told him I'd get
him an RV that someone just truck them one down here. Oh,
let's put a pin in that, y'all. My dream trip
is an RV trip with girls. But I mean Judy, No,
not all the jewelry and all the makeup and all
the botles. I no, but I mean a down and

(15:12):
dirty RV trip Montana. No. I mean that's what we
did growing up, my dad paulic All in the RV
and we may have to do a road trip trip.
Oh gosh. Any other quick questions? Do I want to
go to break and come back? One more question? Then
we'll go to Break from h Kate Coop. Why did

(15:35):
Kashera decide to retire? M Okay Whale. I almost retired
my third year or going into my third year, so
my dad had gotten sick and I really wanted to
go home and be there with him, and he kind
of gave me the whole hymn and mom on both
we're like, you have done, Like, this is what you
want to do. This is what you're you've dreamed of doing. Obviously,

(15:56):
like is staying down there and really pushing through. So
go to your third year, which I'm I'm glad that
I did because my third year was my I mean
I literally went from zero to one hundred and that
thirty year, so it really was pivotal for me. And
then I decided to come back for my fourth year,
and I wanted to go into the year knowing this
was my last, so I took every single opportunity to

(16:17):
either teach myself or teach someone else the importance of
being in that room. And then after I'd kind of
gotten to the end of that year, I thought, you know,
I've I've really accomplished a lot for myself, more than
I ever expected, you know. And I didn't go into DCC.
My only goal when I auditioned my first year in
twenty fifteen was to make it out of prelimbs. That
was all I wanted to do. Everything after that was

(16:38):
a notch in my bill, and I was excited about it.
So I mean, to have stayed for four years and
gotten to do what I was able to, you know,
that was a huge thing. So I also really missed
my family. I missed the time to be able to
go and spend with them, which hasn't changed a whole
lot now that I'm working with the cheerleaders in this case,
that just becomes the science. Yeah, so still overwhelming. It's

(17:01):
still every day every year it's hard to get home.
But I will say, um, my hair has grown back.
I am really you keep pulling on it is that
only your hair give extensions. All my hair, all my
real hair, no extension, no clips, nothing. Wow, yes, I know,
I'm so excited about that. So um but yeah, that
was off the topic. But I really decided to retire

(17:24):
because I felt like I had came to a point
where I know I always would tell people like, it's
not about what you get while you're here, it's what
you give. And I really did feel like I had
maximized both what I had received and what I had
given while I was on the team. And um, although
I felt like my ideas and and the love that
I wanted to give the team was different than being

(17:47):
on it anymore. And so that's why I feel like
this was a perfect fit for me and kind of
where I was going. So I think it was you
just know your time, Well, you are still given and
we're appreciative that you are part of our team, just
on the other side of the line, but we're all
in it. I got toes on. Yeah, my toes are
on the line. Your toes are on my business. All right, Well,

(18:10):
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course in Chamber twenty nineteen. Back back to Just for Kicks.
We are back and we have a new friend in
the room, Miss Christie Scales, who's been the Sideline reporter
for the Cowboys for twenty two going into your twenty
second season, and with the Cowboys in some form of
profession for thirty years, right coming up on thirty. Now,
I just want to point out that that's when at

(20:41):
the time it was legally against child labor laws. Now
that's aha, we said the kindergarten hiring a program. Are
you straight out of the kindergarten? Did you know? In
speaking of kindergarten in school, Christie's a fellow Aggie as well.
But did you know at a young age were you
always curious and insightful and wanted to tell stories? And

(21:04):
did you know sports was in your future? Or were
you I love sports, being a tomboy and loving sports.
But I grew up in the Lake Highlands area, moved
there in fifth grade. That's in northeast Dallas. And Kyle,
you got me okay with this? Or hang on, Christie
at I'm not here? In here we go. So the
Old Cowboys Practice Facility also share with Kelly here. The

(21:26):
Old Cowboys Practice Facility before it moved to Irving to
Old Valley Ranch, was in the Lake Highlands area of
North Dallas, two blocks on Forest Lane at Abrahams road,
so it went all the way back to fifth grade
and we would walk up. It was two blocks from

(21:46):
the Junior High, three blocks from the old practice facility,
and we'd hang out in the parking lot and get
autographs from players. That's when it was Roger Staubach and
Tony Dorsett and Cliff and Charlie and Drew Pearson, Tom
Landry would come out with the big old platters tray
stacked of the film to watch the game film. So

(22:07):
I can say that I've been watching Cowboys practice from
the sideline since i was ten years old. I remember
those practices. One time when we were in a car
driving up from Lindel, we passed Forest Lane and there
were the Cowboys in their practice t shirts jogging. Yeah,
they would go across the street. There was a strip
center mall, not mall, but a strip mall with the
Tom Thumb, and so the players would walk across in

(22:29):
a lunch at the Tom Thumb. Delhi And when we
say practice facility, it was one football field surrounded by
a blue aluminum fence. You would never know that it was.
There was no signage, there was no nothing, and the
corporate offices were in a high Rise on Central Expressway,
So that was tech Shram and the ticket office and
all the executives and stuff like that. But the coaches

(22:51):
offices and the player practice field one football field surrounded
by a blue aluminum fence. The locker room and coaches
offices were in a blue alumina and building that was
maybe the size of an end zone, and there was
no security, so you could just walk up and hang out.
And they did have a weight room. I shouldn't say

(23:12):
it was a weight room. It was outside, it was
underneath the car port. It was two sets of free
weights and a bench. And that was it for the
And this is when they were already America's teams. They
had already won two two Super Bowls in the seventies.
So yeah, but yeah, it's a lot of fun. But
the people who live in that area, you know, they
were our neighbors. And in fact, a really good friend

(23:36):
of mine who's a teacher now her she was next
door neighbors with Robert Newhouse, who was the Cowboys fullback,
and she baby sat Robert Newhouse's kids. So yeah, they
weren't just America's team or Dallas's team. They were our
neighborhood team Christy, we want to We're gonna have some
questions from our pod pals that we'd love for you

(23:57):
to jump in here, and then we want to talk
about the class you're teaching that we designed. Yeah, I
think I'm doing jazz right. I'm teaching jazz in the
Jazz Comboy. But if we can press pause for a moment,
we're going to go to break. We're having a little
technical fun here that I can hear, and once we
fix that, we'll come back. We want to talk about
your class, how you train the cheerleaders on the bus

(24:21):
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Christy Hayley kashera Judy, and I'm Kelly. And we have

(26:36):
Christy here because we started a tradition this year where
Christie rode the game day bus with the cheerleaders to
the games for fun and more importantly for Christy, do
tell the girls about what to look for in terms
of the game the sport. So many times the cheerleaders
spend so much time preparing their dance and performance part
of the game, and the fact that at a game

(26:57):
you're dancing the whole time you really don't see it.
There are time where we might leave a game and
really not have totally absorbed everything that happened. So Christie
started briefing the cheerleaders before the game and after the game,
and we kind of nicknamed it bus Bits and Christie
tell us a little bit about what your formula is
and what you tell the girls as a highlight and

(27:18):
how that's kind of worked out. Yeah, it's usually only
about ten minutes, and on the way to the game,
we're talking about things to look for in just some
of the major storylines, not just for the Cowboys but
for the other team as well. But on the way
back it's kind of a synopsis of the game. And
then if something significant happened where Jason Witten has surpassed

(27:42):
you know, he ties Dez Bryant for the number of
touchdown catches and team history or LP Latissar has now
played so many consecutive games and as you know, number
whatever all time in the NFL. So mainly it's talking
point for the cheerleaders because during the week they are

(28:04):
interacting not only with fans, but with corporate sponsors, with VIPs,
with you know, politicians or whatever, and so, like you say,
being on the sideline is often the worst vantage point
for a game, and you're just so busy with your
routines and what's coming up next and things like that

(28:24):
that you don't get to pay that much attention to
what's going on. So what I'm trying to do is
fill in some talking points so that they know what
happened in the game and converse about it during the week.
And it's made a big difference. And I know there's
one favorite part that you do on the bus. Why
don't you tell us a little bit about your little
editstorial part. Well, it's something that Babe Laufenberg and I

(28:44):
took over for Bill and Denise Bates doing the Cowboys
one oh ones for women Cowboys XS and os or
Cowboys one. We called it different things over the different years,
but it's teaching women about the XS and os and
for football so they can be more conversant and can
the game more. Right, So if you're going to an
art museum and you know something about the artist or

(29:05):
the style, you're going to get more out of it. Well,
it's the same thing with sports. So anyway, Babe and
I would always finish a thing with Babe called him
husband Stumpers, so it'll be little see because men think
they know a lot about football, but they really don't
you know, or they're just kind of repeating what they
hear on sports talk radio read or seen on ESPN

(29:30):
or you know whatever NFL network. And so an example
of a husband stumper would be, you know, okay, you
take ask your husband or your boyfriend or your dad
this question and they think they're going to know the answer,
but they don't. So an example is is the quarterback
an eligible receiver? And it's kind of a trick question

(29:51):
because yes he is, but only if he begins to
play in the shotgun position, which is five yards back
where the center has to high get five yards back.
If the quarterback begins the play under center where he's
got his hands up under the center and takes the
snap directly, then he's not eligible as a as a receiver,
but only if he's back in the shotgun. So it's

(30:14):
it's kind of some little technical things, and it's something
for the girls to get their boyfriends and their husbands
and their dad's and just kind of saying, nah, dad,
you didn't get that one right. So, so we were
on a game day bus today and we were going
to a game. What would be some of the highlights
that you would prep the cheerleaders on so that they're

(30:34):
in the right space and very current and very relevant
with what's happening today in the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL.
Well with the NFL, it's the Collective Bargaining Agreement, so
which is gonna run out relatively quickly in NFL terms,
and so the league has put as they have agreement

(30:54):
that they've sent to the players and the players Association.
The representatives are voting on. The union has to approve
the Collective Bargaining Agreement and that would sustain the league
for another several years. And it covers everything from maybe
moving from sixteen game season to a seventeen game schedule.
That's something that most players don't want, but the league wants.

(31:16):
It covers everything from free agency things like Fransian franchise tags,
transition tags, what is the size of the salary cap,
all sorts of things, work conditions, The players want more
things in the time away from the team in the
off season, and how many padded practices can you have?

(31:37):
All sorts of things. So that's the main thing right now.
And obviously we're getting closer to the NFL Draft, so
everybody has what happened at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis
and know those results, and teams will have players in
for visits or go to colleges for days to see
the players work out at their campuses. So the focus

(31:59):
is turning towards the NFL Draft, which it begins April
twenty third. April twenty third, I think that is right
around the corner, in a corner where they will be
here before you know us. Yeah. So, speaking speaking of
right around the corner, we have our auditions and we
just had our veterans make their decisions. Well, actually the
entire squad of thirty seven made their decisions as to

(32:21):
whether or not they were going to re audition or not.
I'm not going to say who decided what, but i
will say we have our largest wow ever returning class
of veterans competing for their spot back. And part of
part of that competition process is the interview process with
our judges and a written test about the Dallas Cowboys

(32:43):
and the NFL. Um Christie teaches a class in your
classes tomorrow. Right, it's a Friday, Friday, Friday at seven pm,
and so that's what March what's at March seventh, shade whatever,
It's Friday, night, first weekend in March and at seven o'clock.
It's here at the Star in Frisco in the optim suite,
so beautiful setting, and I'm I'm teaching football one oh one,

(33:09):
but also the history of the Dallas Cowboys. Basically, I'm
teaching to the test. And people ask all the time,
how did you become a cheerleader judge? And I mean,
obviously it's my knowledge of dance and fashion and of
course and beauty, you know. But no, back when I
started with the Cowboys radio in ninety one and about

(33:29):
the time that Kelly had had taken over. And I
don't know if you even remember this, but in the
mid nineties you started asking me to look at the
written test and of course update the football question. So
somehow that morphed into being a judge. But basically, I'm
teaching to the test, and Kashera can speak to the
fact of what it was. What were your impressions of

(33:51):
the written test when you first tried out as a
rookie and then did you feel more comfortable in the
subsequent years. Oh my gosh, yes, just even being in
the environment. So being on the team makes a huge
difference because you're just exposed to it that much more. Um. Still,
to this date, any event we go to, I'm like
Christy because she knows something about everything. Yes she does.

(34:14):
Let me just interrupt you right there. Christie's nickname I
gave it to you was Christy Pedia two years ago
because she knows everything. And when we went to Washington,
d C. To the Smithsonian Museums, Christie was our official
tour guide. And it's it's stuck one summer I'd worked
for Congress one summer is an intern so um only

(34:34):
because I had had some familiarity there. But anyway, it's
a lot of fun. But but see, the thing is, um,
you would think and some of the questions for what
are some of the questions Let's see if I mean
I've bet some people fact that is a question I
get a lot? Is what is on that written test? Yes?
And and each of you I've handed out each of
you has I have a five page study guide. Now

(34:57):
we have this opportunity. My yeah, you're plus going in
with the blindfold one. But the thing is we update
the questions each year. Because who is the starting quarterback
for the Dallas Cowboys? You know, some of the stuff
is really obvious. But and it's like, well, of course,

(35:17):
if you're trying out for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, you
should know that we have a new coach this year,
and you should know his name, which is Mike McCarthy.
But you have to understand that the young women, the
rookie hopefuls who come, they're from what was it last year,
thirty six different United States and three different countries. I mean,
it's normally like thirty something or forty different. We were

(35:38):
coast to coast last year, from Hawaii all the way
to New Jersey and everywhere in between. And I think
our final squad netted out to representing eighteen states. There
were thirty four universities represented on our team. So last
so last year, for example, one of the questions was
who is the Cowboys center that is returning to play

(36:00):
in the twenty nineteen season after missing all of last
year after being diagnosed with yow and beret syndrome. They
answer is Travis Frederick. Now, of course this year we're
not going to use that question a question last year.
What another example is who is returning to play for
the Dallas Cowboys after spending a year in the ESPN

(36:21):
booth for Monday Night Football. The answer was Jason Witten
it was and I remember us getting a bunch of
answers that it was Tony Romo and we were like, wow,
did we didn't hear that coming back? But Jason Witten
did yeah. So which again, this was last year which
named the Dallas Cowboy running back who won the league

(36:41):
rushing title two of the past three years, Zeke Elliott.
So how many Super Bowl championships have the teams have
the Dallas Cowboys won so five, So some of it
doesn't change year to year, but this year is significant
and you all have been working on it for so
long and everyone in the building is so excited about
this being our six at the anniversary season, right because

(37:02):
the team started in nineteen sixty. So if I have
been put on the questions this year, I think I
would throw in something about that. So it's history of
the Cowboys. It's basic football questions. How many yards or
assess for a personal foul penalty? How many points for
a safety? You know, it's the red zone? What's the
red zone? Inside of girls, it's like, we don't ever

(37:23):
hear those that terminology. Even on the side, you don't
hear it because we're right. You know, unless we film
games and watch them back, you know, you don't really
get to hear the radio. And even as fans, you know,
now Haley has the advantage because she grew up in
a football family, so you didn't have any any choice
in it. But but these I'm still learning every day.

(37:44):
Sure so, but what we do with the prep classes,
Not only do I have the handy dandy worksheet that
if you if you read this, then you should. You know,
if you don't get in at least an eighty on
the one hundred question test after looking at this, then
I've failed at my job. But so you give this
hand out to anybody coming to the class. And these
are kind of sneak peek. This is a study guy.

(38:07):
It's a study guy and a talk guy. And then
I also have Caden Gates, who's one of our Dallas
Cowboys producers. I gave him some place that he pulled.
So on video, we're going to watch some plays from
the Dallas Cowboys season. It's going to go through because
we go through position by position, and you know, what's
the difference between a four three defense and a three
four What is going in motion, what is shotgun? And

(38:31):
things that are fairly basic. Hopefully we get to get to,
you know, what a nickel defense is. It kind of
depends on what time. But what I did last year
is the optim Suite is right next to the Cowboys lobby,
our atrium, which is beautiful and it's big enough that
we can get the group out there and line up
offense and defense. So you'll be a wide receiver and

(38:54):
Haley will be a tied end and Cheryl will be
quarterback and we'll go in motion and do things like that.
So it's a lot of fun, but also it's really
current events is another thing. So for example, this year,
it might be what is the outbreak from earlier this
year that has led to quarantines and devastated international travel

(39:14):
in the economy, the coronavirus? Right, who is the Democratic
candidate for the president this year? So it's updated each
check to make sure they're all well informed. We may
have to have just a little sneak peeky every podcast.
We could do like what's what's the most important thing
we need to know? But the Dallas Cowboys this week,
So if we were cheerleaders and we were on the bus,

(39:35):
what would you tell us for this week's conversations what's
the hot topic? Because you always did that for us
on the bus. What's the hot topic as it relates
to being a Dallas Cowboys ambassador that we should be
aware of. Again, it's countdown to the draft and then
the collective Bargaining Agreement because that's that's a long term effect,
not just on the Cowboys but the league in general.
And I know y'all know that I get a little

(39:57):
too much of it, the minutia and things like that,
but but it's really really important because it's not just
the business side of football, but it affects the on
field product. It's kind of like the the the rules
that govern everything for the players and management moving forward.
I wonder if the players would know. But last year's

(40:24):
a coach Christie helped me. Was it which coach came
up to me and started talking to me about our choreography?
Gary Brown? Now was Gary Brown? Oh Law wide receivers coach?
To share about him coming up to us. You heard
the conversation, Ryan, Yeah, Yeah, he's a buddy of mine
and we're on the sideline before the game and he's
talking about the choreography. And I'm giving him some input

(40:46):
and telling him about how, you know, it's mostly studio
trained dancers, it's not really, it's a dance troupe more
than a cheerleading squad. And so um, he was equating
your choreography with the DCC to what the NFL wide
receivers do when Sanjay's coached for like four different NFL teams.
So uh. And the way that there are so many

(41:09):
important things with the footwork and um, for offensive lineman
defensive hand placement. I mean, it's minutia. It's hard to describe.
The receiver runs so many steps this way and this way,
and it's very choreographed. Absolutely, he was complimenting Judy the
rehearsals and how specific and I mean, you know, we

(41:29):
talked about balls of your feet on the line and
how very very specifically are informations and he was saying,
that's exactly what the receivers do. And I mean, I'm
gonna sound stupid, but that's okay, I'll admit it. I
kind of thought the receivers, I mean, I knew they
had plays and plans, but they ran and go down
and you're it's kind of I'm open. I'm open. Yeah,
but he was. He was saying, you know this mini

(41:50):
steps this way, this mini steps this way. They are
like running a choreographed absolutely round and then with a
blindfold the ball should land in hands kind of thing.
And I was like, wow, I didn't know that. Yeah,
and then you you have route combination. So two is
a slant where you just that's what Michael Lurvin do.
We'd take a few steps up and then go straight

(42:11):
across the field. But then you combine that with a
go route, so you have a slant and a go
which is called a slugo so slant and say, I'm
writing a new session. We have stumped the coach, and
have a coach come in here, and we'll ask a
yardline things like what is top of the number, what's
bottom of the number? How many? How many? How many

(42:31):
steps do you take in? How many steps do you
take yards to cross five yards? We could I guarantee
you the man you three four? It's yeah, four kind
of it's five cross for five yards every four count?
Why is it in choreography? Why is it in dance
that nobody can count higher than eight? One, two? It's
like in radio test one to three because the musical

(42:53):
measure is four beats, and yeah, so ours is actually
two measures. You said something though, that reminds me of
something Hailey mentioned that I think we can transition in
some of the more those questions. If y'all want to,
we can do that now or come back. But Christy
mentioned the word quarantine, and I remember you. I think
you had a question from one of our pot pals

(43:14):
that once we did have a question and it gets
open for open mic question Q and a heck yeah.
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to treat you. Back back to just for kicks. We're
having so much fun today. Now we need more time
because we're coming up with all these new sections. But Christy,
you kind of teat up perfectly. Haley. I think has
some more pod pal questions, and I remember one involved

(45:41):
the word quarantine. Yes, thanks to Taylor Stern. The question
is if you could be quarantine with any celebrity, who
would it be? Oh easy, that's easy for me. It's easy.
So ye, mine would be Freddie Mercury. I would love
to be in a room with him and just crawling
his brain and talk about songs. It had to be
with a piano. I want a piano when there, and

(46:04):
we would compose songs and I'd hear all the stories
about his songs and find out some of the secrets
behind Bohemian Rhapsody, and I just would find him fascinating.
I'd love to love to have a human conversation. I
know that doesn't surprise y'all at all. Surprise that's Christie.
Who's your quarantine Ryan Reynolds. Oh that's a good one.

(46:24):
I thought about Ryan Reynolds. Sorry, he's taken, so I
wouldn't swap. So who's yours roommate? I think maybe a
generous would be fun to kind of be in a
room with. Yeah, fun, a fun factor. I didn't think
about that because we're gonna get bored after a while.
Quarantined me and she was very quiet, but that doesn't

(46:47):
surprise me. She after her she's I've heard she's different
between on camera and off camera, but she was very
shy and very just like eye opening and like in
awe of the whole experience at the games. It was
fun to be around Dolly Parton too. She just makes
you feel so good and I just loved and Co

(47:09):
especially should bring her wig collection. You could just play
beauty shopping. No, I can't think of one person. But
I've always felt y'all told you this Princess Diana was
my friends, like we were friends, and I would just
want to but see, I didn't know that. I didn't
know that the question was living or dead, right, so

(47:30):
it could be either. I think it's wherever your head goes. Okay,
didn't you say, Freddie Mercury? Yes, okay, exactly, still alive
in my head. I want to know all the palace
gossip behind the scenes. So see you you buying into
the Crown and you like all the royalty or you
you want to be real with her, be real with her,

(47:51):
be real with her. Have you ever gotten the chance
to watch an autobiography about her or read a book
or anything. There's a couple of the reason I I
have watched the Crown and next season they actually get
into it. I think when she is in that she
hasn't been on it yet. It's been the young queen
and in the middle years when she's had kids. It's interesting.

(48:14):
She would be fascinating terribly. Where are you quarantine or
are you like on a cruise ship or on an
island like Tom Hank's name in Volleyballs or you know,
well Son, I don't know what that's a good question.
It's a good question. I'm not sure that is a
great question. Um. Let's see from josh Kinburg twenty two.

(48:34):
What is your favorite food and movie? Whoa so random? Okay.
Movie for me would be something that I could turn
when I turned the TV on. It catches my attention
every time and I enjoy watching it and it's it's
would be something like four Scout. Oh my gosh, for
going I can. I can watch it every time it
pops on. It's just good Mexican any kind of Mexican faon, Yes,

(49:02):
hope for it. Uh. My favorite movie, I got like
three of them. My first two is to Come Out
Bam and Forrest Gump, and then my other one. That's
my favorite movie, but I don't say that out loud
because I'm coming bears. It's Joe Dirt. Oh my god.
Oh I like dumb number two it's so funny. Um.
And then my favorite food again, it's really cliche, but

(49:26):
my mom makes them real good fried chickens. Every time
I go home, I'm like, Momma's fried chicken. Yes, and
it tastes better than like It's not like it's not
the fake kind of it's it's like, what's fake fried
chicken to share? I mean like it's like not like herself. Yeah,
she makes crazy, she makes potato. I can make it good. Okay,

(49:49):
I'm coming to your house. That's what for their birthday?
It's chicken chicken crazy. I bet her starter kit with
a fake fried chicken. That's chicken nuggets in there. Yes, Hey,
what's your favorite movie? Oh? I had to go to
Pitch Perfect I just just a good or Bridesmaids just
to get a lighthearted chick flick. A lighthearted chick flick.

(50:12):
Your chick flick. That's why the joker still traumatized her.
I didn't realize that about you. Now I know I'm
still haven't gotten over it. You've gotten over it now.
It's given me time. But I don't think i'd watch
it again. But it was I was glad that I
saw it. Okay. In food Mexican, Okay, I need the
white cheese dip. That's margarite is those are my two

(50:32):
good too. That's what we need is a Margarita machine
room here. Yes. During the podcast sponsorship sponsorship I sponsorship
what did you say, Chris, it's a tie um sound
of music too. And then my all time hero was
Meryl Street. Yeah, and there's no greater performance by an

(50:54):
actor than Sophie's choice. So that is the biggest bummer
of a movie. But it's just brilliant acted by her
and Kevin Klein and Peter McNichols. So you know there
are films where you know every word and so um yeah,
Sophie's choice. And then food probably well, I just got
back from Israel and Jordan. We had chicken and hummus

(51:15):
every day. Um No, it would be probably cagn seafood.
Yeah really, Oh yeah, like going to Popados or something. Yeah,
oh for sure, spicy, spicy agency food my favorite food.
I tend to eat sushi a lot, so I guess
I'll just say sushi of all sorts. Funny enough, my
first sushi meal was in Mexico. I had my first

(51:36):
time I ever had sushi was in Mexico. Um. And
then my favorite movie grow through the years has always
been the color purple. I love the color purple, but
it has a huge tear factor for me. I know,
I can hear the swell of the music and I
know exactly when to crown queue. And then of course
recently I was I'm just still fascinated with Bohemian Rhapsodi.
It just really was a musical um an acting favorite

(51:57):
for me. So every we'll do two more questions. One
questions from Lindsay M. Whitfield. It's if you could add
a dream judge to the panel of additions, who would
it be? Oh? Good one, Dolly Parton, she's a poet showmanship.
Oh my gosh, Dolly, if you can hear us, I'm
sitting out my Southern bill signals right now. Come to Dallas. Well,

(52:22):
I might say Bradley Cooper him, just make sure he
sits by me. But he's an Eagles fan, right, he's
Eagles fan out of the movie silver Lining, But he
really isn't ye. He wore that Eagles jersey in the movie.
So sorry he Well, you know what, if you don't
want him, then he can sit next to me. Okay,
who's your celebrity judge? Um? Are Ryan Reynolds and I

(52:46):
still in quarantine? Um? I don't know Merrill, she knows performance, Yeah, okay,
who's Who's who's left? Hayley? Did you do your who's
your celebrity Joe or dream judge? Hmm? Um, I don't know.

(53:10):
I have to think about that one. That's a good one.
That's a good one. I'm just trying to think of
like a good performer. Actually, I'm gonna through it with
going more news anchors and do Samana GA three. Oh yeah,
that'd be great show. Yeah, very very relevant. Absolutely, I'm
gonna go the exact opposite and say j Low, Oh
my gosh, how amazing. She's got power, performance downpad, the

(53:33):
ability to stay trinity, and like she sets a new
standard each time she takes the stage. And I feel
like that's like what a DCC does at auditions. Every
year you come back, whether you've auditioned and not made
it to training camp or any part of it, you
have to come with a new standard to set for yourself,
and she does that in every aspect of her career.
That's true. I leaned toward kind of a rock band perception,

(53:58):
like when bands are hiring their front man, when bands
are trying to decide who is our front man, who
is the star of the show. I think that'd be
kind of fun from the perspective of a guitarist or
a drummer or somebody knowing the role of a cheerleader
being the front man all the time. So I'm going
to go a rock band, and y'all probably know which one.

(54:23):
Queen for those who next week we'll talk about it.
But since we did get to work with Brian May
and Roger Taylor of Queen and see what consummate professionals
they were. Um, yeah, I'd love insight from somebody like
that that knows what arena's need for entertainers and give
that front spotlight to somebody other than themselves and how

(54:45):
they how they visualize that. It's fun. Judy, who is
your I said Dolly Parton. I wanted to get her
to come make us laugh. Well, Dolly Dolly, maybe we'll
have to get in touch with Dolly. I remember when
y'all had Betty Buckley as she wasn't a judge, but
she was in the corner of the room, and like,
if I'd known she was going to be there, I
would have brought my Cats original Broadway cast album to
get signed. So if she comes back, you gotta let

(55:07):
me know. Okay, she just likes the show and she
just was watching. She didn't judge, but she did speak
to them, all the participants at the end, and so
that was really cool, amazing if you're if you're into Broadway,
that's a very big name. Okay, last question from NJ Ganster,
it's what does the season offseason look like for the cheerleaders, Well,

(55:31):
if you can have the calendar, it's just things. Every
day we have appearances. We still have shows. We're getting
ready for our calendar shoot. Of course, we're getting ready
for auditions and a lot of those appearances. In fact,
this week, Christie, I think one of the appearances landed
in your Yes your friends, Yeah, read across America. So
the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders fanned out in the elementary school

(55:52):
that they visited in the d I s D. We
have photos. CC visited the class for my best friend
going up, the one who baby sat for Robert Newhouse's
kid back in the days when the Cowboys Ratley kiland
she's a teacher now and so um, my friend Debbie Wooding,
she sent me some photos. Then CC sent me some photos,
so we have some that uh CC put up on

(56:16):
We see the photos there, that's my friend Debbie surrounded
by the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. And what's special about and
that is from a young boy that's uh Roston there,
but he is from Iran. Most of the most of
the students in Debbie's class in school, so many of
them are immigrants. And many, many of them refugees that
had to flee from places. She has a lot of

(56:37):
kids from Nepaul and all sorts of places where English
is their second language. And so what's what was significant
is um Debbie sent me a message and said one
of the students in the class, uh said, this is
the funniest day my life. It's the funnest day of
my life. To then there was CC word funnest works

(57:00):
for that is and so just had such a wonderful time.
So and then of course recently the DCC had their
nursing home visits. That was within the last few weeks, right,
And so when you talk about their not being an
off season from the executive level, as you're planning everything,
there's no cash knows there's no off season for the
cheerleaders because community events such as Rita Cross America take

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place all the time. Yeah, I had a similar experience
with one of those messages when our cheerleaders just did
the nursing home visits and one of the gentlemen that
we met, he came up to me at the end
of the nursing home visit and he said he'd been
in this particular center for six months. It was a
big transition in his life. And he came up to
me and said, this is the most laughter and most
excitement I've ever seen in this facility. And I hear

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about which means our time is up right, that's up
for today, alrighty Well, thank you everybody for joining us
on Just for Kicks. Thanks Christy, Thanks Cash, of course
highly thanks Judy. We'll see y'all next time on Just
for Kicks. So this has been a production of Dallas

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Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.