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March 17, 2025 56 mins

Larry Kim is the founder and CEO of Customers.ai and the visionary behind WordStream, which he scaled to a $150M exit. In this episode, John and Larry dive into the battle between product-driven growth and go-to-market strategy, exploring why Larry believes a strong product trumps traditional sales tactics.Larry shares lessons from scaling two companies, including his experience hiring (and firing) sales leaders, the power of founder-led sales, and how he slimmed down his team while tripling revenue. If you’re building a business, selling in a competitive space, or struggling with product-market fit, this episode is packed with game-changing insights.

Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today’s AI-driven landscape? Visit www.jbarrows.com and let’s Make It Happen together!

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Check out Larry's Website: https://customers.ai/ 

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