You can beat the competition. You can’t survive confusion.
Garin Hess, founder of Consensus and author of Selling is Hard. Buying is Harder. joins the show to share why making it easier for people to buy should be every sales team’s mission. Drawing from his background in learning and development, Garin explains how buyer enablement transforms selling from product pitches into personalized coaching experiences that empower champions and engage entire buying groups.
He reflects on the dangers of “peace mongering” in leadership, how personalization at scale changes buying dynamics, and why emotional ROI matters more than we often acknowledge in B2B. Garin also shares real stories from the field, including one painful lesson about the risks of not mapping the entire buying group.
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(00:00) Meet Garin Hess
(02:16) From Utah roots to leadership lessons
(05:23) How learning and development shaped his sales approach
(08:02) Why buying is harder than selling
(11:42) Breaking through buyer confusion and dysfunction
(20:15) Measuring impact through metrics and emotional ROI
(23:25) The role of trust and purpose in the future of B2B sales
(26:37) Sales war stories and lessons learned the hard way
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