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February 3, 2023 44 mins
  I'm super excited about the Podcast 2.0 project and the features we have implemented at my Day Job (Blubrry.com). It feels to me very much like Podcasting felt back in the beginning of podcasting 2004-2005.  I go over some of those features and why YOU might be interested as a listener OR podcaster. The good old days are back! In other subjects, I have started what is known as the Carnivore diet or PHD (Proper Human Diet) in hopes of improving my health.  I talked quite a bit about it in this episode. To help me NOT bore everyone I know with it, I have started an Audio blog (read Podcast DOh!) called My Carnivore Health Journey.  It's available here: https://mikedell.com/carnivore-2/  It's a blog as well as a podcast where I will post more personal progress on my health journey and other things of interest to the carnivore community.  Wish me luck! This podcast is posted on MikeDell.com Go there and subscribe!
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Hey, it's a beautiful,
sunny summer day with puffy white clouds.
Or maybe it's dark grayclouds, maybe it's raining,
maybe it's hailing where you are.
Thunder.
And lightning.
Maybe you're being torn apart by cats

(00:24):
regardless of your personal situation.
Thank you for listeningto Mike Dell's world,
And good evening. Goodmorning, good afternoon,
whatever the case may be onthe recorded Mike Dell's world.

(00:48):
But, uh, yeah, I'm tryingout this new live thing. Uh,
Todd gave me some, uh, timeon this streaming server,
and I figured I would giveit a try and see how it goes.
So let me know if you guysare listening, if you've, uh,
found me or not. Uh, earliertoday, it seems like,

(01:09):
it seems like I've been on themicrophone all day. But, uh, yeah,
I was on with Adam Curry, Dave Jones,
and Todd Cochran on thePodcasting 2.0 Show,
uh, over at, uh, podcast index.org. Uh,
you can find it in mostof the podcasting 2.0 apps

(01:31):
and also over@podcastindex.org,
search for Podcasting 2.0. So,
yeah, now it's officially,uh, six o'clock maybe. Uh,
maybe that's what I neededto get, uh, pod verse to,
to do its thing here.
And speaking of pod verseand other apps like that,

(01:51):
be sure to go over to
new podcast apps.com and download
yourself a modern podcast appto listen to this show and,
and other great shows that are over there.
And if everything goes as planned,
you should get a notification everyso often that I'm going live and some

(02:15):
of the other podcasts that you mightlisten to, like podcasting 2.0,
geek News Central, uh,the new Media Show, uh,
a bunch of 'em. Uh, there's a wholebunch that are, are doing this, and, uh,
it's growing every day, soit's gonna be great. Uh,
this is just an audio stream.
At some point I may addFacebook Live or YouTube Live

(02:40):
or something like that for thevideo side. But for the time being,
I'll, I'll just play withthis audio server thing.
But the whole podcasting 2.0 project,
and I know I'm not supposed to talk aboutpodcasting on this show all the time,
but darn it, uh, that's whatI'm testing, so why not?

(03:01):
Uh, and I know some of you guys have been,
been with me a long timeand realized that, uh, well,
podcasting is a big part of whatI do all the time. So ,
not that I do this show all the time,
but yeah, what can I say?
It's live thing. It's a,it's a little different, uh,

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but it's cool. And, youknow, with Podcasting 2.0,
if you're set up for it,you can send Satoshis, uh,
with Pod Verse and manyother apps. Uh, cast Amatic,
uh, pod Friend. I don't know,
there's a whole list of 'em I should goover and look. , how about that?

(03:49):
Uh, let's see. New podcastapps.com. That was just there.
So, pod verse, cast of Pod, uh,
let's see. Uh, Curio Casterpodcast, attic Pod Friend,
uh, I guess Dystopia. Neverreally heard of that one.

(04:09):
Uh, podcast Guru. Uh, of course,
right on Podcast Index aswell. Podcast index.org.
Uh hmm. Well, I'm looking Fountain.
That's another one. Customatic.
Uh, I guess that's it.Breeze is another one.

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Pod lp, uh,
let's see, audio Wave. Neverheard of that one either.
So there's a lot of 'em.Pod Tricks, Finks ,
uh, antenna Pod,
Ivy fm Anytime podcast player.

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And not all of these have everything. Uh,
pod versus is the one that I use,and that has a lot of the stuff.
It has the value for value,
or you can stream Satoshisor send a Boosto Graham.
And if you do send a BoostoGraham while I'm live,
or maybe in the next episodeI'll mention you, uh,

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it's not too hard to get set up. Uh,
easiest way I've foundso far is go over to get
lb.com. Get lb.com,
and you sign up for an account overthere and you get a, an address.
It's known as a lightning address.Don't worry about all the geekery,
but it's called a lightning address.

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And then you can fund your wallet overthere. I think the minimum's 30 bucks.
But, uh, you know that, that's anawful lot of Satoshis. So ,
you can, uh, support podcasts.You love that way, and, uh,
stream SATs that way.
And if you're a podcaster and you'reusing anything blueberry, you can, uh,
also link that to your blueberry accountand receive Satoshis from people.

(06:02):
So it's a,
it's a really cool way to interactwith your audience and maybe
earn a few pennies or dollars orlots of dollars. And, you know,
it all depends. It'svalue for value thing.
If you get value out of whatyou're listening to, you give a little value back,
uh, time calendar, treasure,as Adam says. But, uh, again,

(06:24):
I was on the Podcasting 2.0 showtoday with Adam Curry, Dave Jones,
and Todd Cochran. And, uh, wetalked all about, uh, blueberries,
implementation of the podcast2.0 stuff, and, and, uh,
didn't really get intothe whole list. But, uh,
let me bring up that listbecause it's pretty extensive.

(06:45):
Uh, and, and what I'll do isI'll go through these and,
and explain why you as a listenerand or a podcaster might be
interested in this. Sogimme bear with me here.
So gotta go to my documents.Yeah, there and there.
I know this is, this iscompelling Live radio, isn't it?

(07:07):
Uh, . All right.Yeah, I got a double click,
and I think that's the, I don't know,
that's not the doc I wanted,
but you hate that you open a docand it ain't the one you wanted.
I should have had this allready to go, but I didn't. Okay.

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So as a podcaster or a podcast listener,
there's a thing called PodcastPing. It runs in the background. Uh,
if you're hosting with Blueberry,
or the show you're listening to ishosting with Blueberry and many other apps
and, and, uh, you know, hosts out there.So it's not just us that are doing it,

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but, uh, pod Ping is oneof those things that,
uh, it helps speed thingsup. You know, a lot of,
a lot of people, they put out a newpodcast and then they wait, and they wait,
and they wait,
and they wait for Spotifyor Apple or Google

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or, you know, a lot of these otherlegacy apps, I love that term,
legacy apps that don't havethe pod ping functionality
and feature, uh, takes 'em areally long time with this,
uh, pod Ping.
It should cut that timedown to damn near in
instantly. It doesn'talways work that way,

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but it's does pretty dang good.So, some of these new podcast apps,
as soon as whoever publishesan episode and using Pod Ping,
uh, or has a on a service thatuses Pod Ping, it gets the,
it gets the, uh, episoderight away, or makes,
makes it available right away inthat app. So that's kind of cool.

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Another tag or feature, you know,we, we we're not calling 'em tags.
That's geeky.
Another feature is thetranscript and Blueberry
implemented the, uh,transcript. Uh, both you,
you can sign up for a service that will
make a transcript and automaticallyput it into your feed.

(09:23):
So apps that will run thetranscript, you can, you know,
you can look at it on that andalso on our Blueberry Player.
So if you go over to mike dell.comand listen to this episode later,
there'll be a CC button on thePlayer, and a little drawer will pop,
pop out, and you'll see the transcriptand you'll see a little highlighter that

(09:46):
highlights each sentence as Ispeak it. So that's kind of cool.
And transcripts, you know,help hearing impaired, uh,
get the gist of yourpodcast. Uh, you know,
the transcripts are not absolutelyperfect, but they're pretty darn good.
Uh,
the Locked tag or Lockedfeature isn't really

(10:08):
too much for the podcast listener.Other, other than it just,
it prevents your show frombeing pulled to a different
host, uh, without your permission.
And that was a problema while back when, uh,
a certain podcast hosting company,uh, you know, people would,

(10:30):
would hijack somebody's feed and, andput up another instance of it, uh,
without their permission. And,you know, it's just, yeah, poor,
poor planning there ontheir part. But funding,
that's another featurethat's implemented in my feed
here. If you are on an appthat has the funding thing,

(10:51):
you hit the little dollar sign and it'lltake you over to buy me a coffee and
you can buy me a coffee. So,uh, it's, it used to say,
buy me a beer. But, uh, I,I'm, I'm laying off the beer,
which I'll talk about herein a little while. Let's see,
chapters, uh, I have not, I have notimplemented chapters yet, but I will, uh,

(11:15):
eventually. But what that is, isyou could put the art, you know,
have the art change every, you know,when you're talking about a subject,
you could have a pictureup on there. You know, not,
not everybody's gonna sit thereand look at their phone while, uh,
while they're, uh, you know,listening to a podcast.
Cuz the whole idea of listening to anaudio podcast is you can do other stuff
while you do it. But if youjust happen to be there,

(11:37):
if you're on car play and listening toa podcast and they mention something,
you can look over and see the, the,the new picture in the chapters. Uh,
it also allows you to skip aheadto that section. So, like today,
I was listening to a particularshow and they had, uh,
two different guests onthere, and they had the,
the chapters set up to where I could justlisten to the interview of the guest I

(12:01):
wanted to listen to. And, youknow, jump right to it. Now,
for a podcaster, that's not necessarilya great thing, only because, you know,
I kind of want you to listen toall of it. But, you know, if I,
if I do use chapters in thefuture, it'll be more for, uh,
you know, sharing picturesand things like that. That's,

(12:24):
uh, that's what I'll tendto, to do with that one. Uh,
the location tag, uh,
that just gives it a location.There are apps out there,
there's maps.fm that, uh,
shows the location on a map ofwhere the podcasts are. And,
you know, say you wanna learn somethingabout Traverse City, you would, uh,

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go to the map in Traverse City and you'dsee all the podcasts that were released
in Traverse City. Uh, a lot of'em will be churches, but, uh,
you'll see mine there. And, you know,
cause I do talk aboutTraverse City quite a bit,
and that's what it's mainlyfor, you know, so if you, like,
I'm gonna be going to Las Vegashere in March for a conference,

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and we'll probably doan episode there, uh,
for the other podcasts that I do.
And I will likely, uh, you know,
put that location inthere that I was at, uh,
you know, particular place inLas Vegas when this was recorded.
And that may be interesting to somebody.I don't know, kind of cool. Uh,

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I'll skip over these other two cuzthey're complicated and I'll come back to
them. But then there'sthe podcast txt tag. And,
and I'm gonna call that a tagbecause that is what it's called.
And basically what that's foris it'll allow us to remove
the email address from an RSS feed.

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And those of you that are podcasters
probably know that you'll get all kindsof spam email. You know, there's, uh,
people out there that'll scrape all theRSS feeds, grab all the email addresses,
and then try to get you to switch toa different service or try to sell you
something. Um, it's, youknow, slightly annoying.

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And the text tag allows you to,
instead of having your email addressin there to verify, you know,
you could just, you know, hey, put thiscode in the text tag, and then if, then,
you know,
whoever you're trying to verify with cansee that you own the feed because you
put that code that theytold you to put in the tag.

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So it's, you know, it'll,
it'll help maybe cut the spamdown. It's not, like I said,
not super, super important topodcast listeners. But, uh,
kind of important for podcasters, uh,
let's see, the G U I D and I don'tknow that's an acronym for something,

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but a good is what it'salso called Sometime.
And we're assigning goods to podcasts. Uh,
and that gooood will stick with thatpodcast no matter where it moves around to
in theory.
And it just makes it alittle easier to pick up

(15:20):
duplicate duplications and stuff.
So directories can decide whether that'sthe same podcast or a different one
by the G I d the Person tag.
Person tag, okay?
The credits feature is what wecall it at Blueberry, but it's, uh,
it's based on the A tag in rss,

(15:41):
and you can give credits. Uh,
so like you'll see ifyou're on Podcast Index and
looking at my show here,you'll see that, uh,
I'm credited as the producer and thehost and the chief bottle washer and
whatever else. And ifI have a guest on here,
I can credit the guest insidethe episode. So, uh, and,

(16:02):
and on apps at that shows, itkind of gives you credits. Uh,
so it's kind of cool that way. Okay,so the two that I skipped over, the,
the one is the live item tag,
and that's also what it's called or lit.
And basically that is alittle thing that, uh,

(16:23):
pings the apps thatsupport it. Uh, currently,
I believe it's Castomatic Pod verse and
Podcast Addict, which is a,a very popular Android app.
And it will ping that app and say,Hey, you know, so-and-so's going live,

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and you can go right inyour podcast app and,
and start playing it live,
which is just something thatwe've never had before in,
in podcasting. Uh, you know, a lot oftimes people that do live shows will,
you know, put it on social thatthey're going live and, and all that,

(17:05):
but they won't. Um, you know, they, they,
they leave have to leave theapp to do that. And this, uh,
allows you to listen at this point. Now,
there may be in the future somevideo component to it if, uh,
if the podcaster chooses to do that. Uh,

(17:25):
but you could just listenlive like I'm doing right now.
I'm doing a live stream in case you'relistening to this later, it was, uh,
it started at, uh, six o'clockEastern Time on a, on Friday.
And, and I'm gonna try to do these, uh,
maybe once a week or once every otherweek. I don't know, something like that.
And, uh, so be sure to go download, uh,

(17:48):
pod verse or Cast Amaticor Podcast Addict if
you're on an Android,
and you'll get a notification whenI'm going live and you can join in.
And then the last one was the, uh,
value or value for value. It's, uh, it's,
the tag is called Value.

(18:09):
And basically that's where youcan stream crypto, uh, you know,
Satoshis, which is a, uh, I think it's a,
I I always forget what it is. It'sa very small, small, small part of,
of Bitcoin. And don't worry, it'snot a Bitcoin investment thing.
And you don't, don't need tobe creeped out about crypto.

(18:31):
It's basically a way to transfervalue. Uh, you can, you know,
fund your wallet with,with Real money or well,
Fiat Fund coupons as Adam calls'em . And then you can,
uh, and then, you know,
later on if your wallet gets reallyfull, uh, you can, uh, you know,

(18:53):
convert that back to, uh,to dollars or pounds or,
or Euros or what,
whatever money you youplay in and, you know,
but it's a great way to interact.Uh, you know, you get Boosto grams,
which are little text messages thatpeople sort of have to pay for, but,
you know, send a thousand statsthat might be 30 cents, 50 cents,

(19:16):
something like that. It'snot, you know, it's not huge.
Or you can get giant boosts,uh, you know, a few times, uh,
I've, I've gotten some boostson another show that, uh, that,
that were significant. And italways makes your day, you know,
a lot of podcasters, it's a prettylonely business sometimes, you know,

(19:37):
you don't get any feedback.You, you know, you know,
you've got listeners cuz you look at yourstats, but you don't get any feedback,
you know,
and I always ask for emails orhit me on social or whatever and,
you know, a very small percentageof you guys, uh, do that. Well,
this seems to engage theaudience a little more. I think,

(19:58):
you know,
just a lot of the shows I listen tonow that are value for value enabled,
uh, definitely, you know, there,
there's a lot more interactionand it gets exciting,
you know, uh, podcasting, I've beendoing this a long time and podcasting,
when Apple got into it andput podcasts in iTunes,

(20:22):
that sort of stopped theinnovation, you know, uh,
podcasting when I've got into it was,
was new and you had to be kind of a geekto do it and had to be kind of a geek
to listen to them and, and all that.
And this feels a lot likethat. Uh, uh, you know, I,
I'm excited that, you know,
everything's kind of seeming new withthis podcast 2.0 initiative. Now,

(20:46):
your old legacy apps willcontinue to work, uh,
and eventually some of them, and maybehopefully all of them eventually,
will adopt some of thesefeatures. You don't, and they,
and they don't have toadopt all of them. You know,
you'll see over at podcast new podcastapps.com, you'll see that, you know,
different things are implementingdifferent parts of the, of the, uh,

(21:09):
feature set that, you know,
will become more and morepopular. So, you know, it's,
it's a 3% thing right now, or2%, I don't know. It's like some,
somewhere around 11,000 shows right now.
Out of the 4 million are are Value for Value enabled.
And there's, you know, quite abunch more that are more, you know,

(21:32):
that have at least one of the tagsin there. One of the features, uh,
so you know, it, it's getting adoption.It's, you know, it's a slow slog.
It's just like podcasting in general.Uh, you know, back when I started,
there might have been a hundredpodcasts and pretty much everybody knew
everybody and everybodylistened to everybody .
So it was a whole differentworld back there. And,

(21:54):
and now it seems that it's kind ofthat same way, uh, with Podcasting 2.0,
all the two, 2.0. People are listeningto each other's podcasts and,
and it's a great way to discover thingsthat you wouldn't normally run across.
So I, I urge you to go overto, you know, pod verse and,
and download that app ifyou're on an app. Well,

(22:16):
I guess it works onAndroid as well. And, uh,
and Linux and Mac andmaybe pc. I don't know.
I don't have one, but you know,
it's a pod verse is a, is one ofthe, one of the new modern apps. Now,
is it as polished as say ApplePodcasts or Overcast or something

(22:37):
like that? No, not yet. It's gettingthere and they're doing a hell of a job.
And the beauty of it is the appdevelopers are involved with this project.
Part of the reason is they get a littlecut when you send a boost through pod
verse, pod verse gets a littlecut. And since, you know,
we at Blueberry did all thisdev work to make that work,

(22:59):
we get a little cut and,you know, it's, but it's,
it's all inconsequentialas far as, you know.
It's not a huge amount of money unlessyou wanna send a hu huge amount of money.
You know, anything isgood. And it also allows
podcasters to not worryabout monetizing with ads.

(23:20):
I mean, it's, you know, ads are annoyingsometimes. Uh, I know, you know,
I like podcasts that don't have ads. Ilike pod some podcasts that do have ads.
There's, you know, nothinginherently wrong with ads,
but there's another thing toit. It's free speech, you know,
keeping podcasting freeand open. You know,

(23:42):
using an R RSS as the standard
is one of the goals of podcasting 2.0.
I think it's the first goal isit's to make RSS a little more
usable and a little morefeature rich than it used to be.
And, you know, since, like I said,since Apple got into it in 2005,

(24:03):
the innovation sort of stopped.
There really wasn't alot of innovation. Now,
some innovations just happenedbecause they happen, you know,
now everybody's carrying their pocketcomputer around, you know, their iPhone,
their Android, their whateverelse, uh, might be out there.
And that's where people consume podcasts.

(24:23):
It used to be that they'd consume itby downloading it in the middle of the
night on a slow, slow connection andthen syncing it with their device,
you know, their iPod ortheir other MP3 player.
And now it's more ins,you know, with the phones.
They're always connected and it's moreinstant, you know, hence this live thing,
you know, we were neverable to do live, uh,

(24:46):
back when podcasting started,and now we are. And you know,
I, I'm not huge into live,but it's cool, you know,
it's cool to play with.
Gotta get a drink here. I definitely,uh, been talking too much today,
, but that's all right. And I hada pile of voicemails I had to clear up,

(25:09):
uh, when I got off the, the mic earlier,
so it's been nonstop. So that's the,
the gist of the podcasting 2.0stuff. Uh, you know, I won't, uh,
continue to go on and on and onabout it, uh, on this show, uh,
you will hear me going onand on and on about it,
on the podcast 2.0 showepisode one 20. Uh,

(25:33):
although I didn't talk nearly asmuch as the other guys, but, uh,
it was still a, a really good time. And
let's see what else? Oh, and,uh, podcast Insider, we're,
we're shifting that around a littlebit, uh, in format, uh, you know,
we used to cover a lot of podcastingnews and we'll pro we'll do it one more

(25:56):
time that way, but, uh, we'regonna rebrand it a little. And, uh,
it'll still be every Thursday,and it'll still be Todd,
me or Mackenzie or any combinationthereof, or all three of us sometimes.
But we're going to go toa single topic episode
format and make it a little more evergreen

(26:20):
so that the people can go back, youknow, years later and listen to it.
And most of it may be relevant insteadof, you know, who bought who, and,
you know,
who's the number one podcaster on Spotifyand all the other silly stories that
we were covering. There's enoughpeople covering that stuff.
And so we switched itup to be a single, uh,

(26:42):
single or two topic episode, you know,
because we may have somepre-recorded segments of other people
chiming in on a particular subject,
and we'll probably have guests once in awhile and, and that kind of thing. But,
uh, I, I,
I think it's gonna make for a littlemore compelling show in something

(27:03):
that'll last a little longer than,uh, just covering the news and,
and that kind of stuff. And then we'llalso be able to break in and do, uh,
you know, Todd Nile, we'll,
we'll jump in there and do a bonusepisodes every now and again, you know,
to cover some subject that'sa hot topic of the day or,
or whatever. But, uh, those won't,uh, those won't count in our,

(27:26):
uh, our normal episode schedule. And, uh,
so we'll put the bonusepisode to use. So, uh,
anyway, enough aboutpodcasting and all that. Well,
I guess I got one more little thingabout podcasting that I'll tell you about
towards the end here. Let's see.

(27:46):
I don't have any way of knowing ifanybody's listening live, but, uh,
I'm sure somebody might be.
If you are and you're listening on apodcast 2.0 app, shoot me a boosto gram,
I'll get it here. It'll make a funnynoise, and I'll be able to, uh,
to tell that, uh, you'relistening. So that's kind of cool.

(28:08):
All right, so the next thing is,
I'm making a little bit of a change here,
and I don't wanna make abig deal out of it here,
but I am going on a extremely low,
low-carb diet. Um, somepeople call it keto.
There's different levels oflow-carb diets. I know, boy,

(28:32):
I really changed subjects here, didn't I?
This will be a great spot for a chapter.But anyway, , I was talking,
you know, I, I, I was, I'vebeen watching a lot of,
of YouTubes about thisthing called carnivore,
carnivore diet. Uh, what's her name?
Mikayla Pearson, uh, orPeterson, Mikayla Peterson.

(28:56):
She, uh, is JordanPeterson's daughter. And she,
she goes one step further.She's on a very strict,
what she calls a lion diet,where literally she eats beef,
butter, salt and water,

(29:17):
and maybe not even butter. I thinkit's just beef, salt and water.
And she's been doing thatfor a couple of years now,
and it's completely cured herautoimmune disease that was eating
upper joints. Uh, she had a hipreplacement when she was 17 years old,
and she's had an ankle replaced, and,you know, she was allergic to everything.

(29:38):
And, uh, you know, justeverything set her off.
And now that she's on this diet,she's perfectly healthy and,
and, you know, it all works for her. Uh,
and also it helped with the mentalhealth from what I've been reading.
And like I said, I'm trying itmyself, uh, not the lion diet, but,
uh, a low,

(30:00):
low carb carnivore diet is whatI'm calling, what I'm doing,
and
what it's done for people is,you know, you lose weight. And,
and from what I've been reading,
that the human body is meant to burn fat

(30:21):
as fuel.
And only since the advent of farming and
agriculture have we beeneating any grains or,
or very many vegetables and fruitsand whatnot. Yeah, you know,
the cavemen probably walked around andpicked blueberries and whatever other
kind of berries that werethere, and, you know,

(30:42):
maybe ate a little bit of thatfor, you know, as far as plants.
But for the most part, theyate meat and drank water.
And as far as I know, theywere healthy. So, you know,
all the research says that that's whatthe human body is meant to do, is to,
to burn fat. So he fat and protein,

(31:04):
um, you know, it, it just, it'sjust what we're meant to do.
And my problem was, you know, or is I, I,
I'm a type two diabetic, and everytime I go to the doctor, you know,
get blood work done, and he said, oh,your A1C is up to such and such. And,
and I go into greater detail in,in another venue here. But, uh,

(31:29):
and I'll tell you aboutthat at the end, but, uh,
you know, it was getting prettybad. Uh, every time I'd go in there,
you'd want to put me on another drugand another drug and another drug. And,
you know, the drug companies aregetting rich, the doctor's getting rich,
and I'm, you know, fat tired and,
and not doing so well. SoI, I think I'm, you know,

(31:53):
I, I'm hoping this does what it,for me, what it does for, you know,
other people I've been watching onYouTube, one of the big ones is Dr.
Ken Berry. Uh, uh, he'sa big proponent of,
of the carnivore diet, andthere's a whole bunch of 'em.
You get on YouTube and you canspend hours and hours and hours.
And you know,

(32:15):
what it does basicallyis once your body gets
fat adapted, they call it, uh,
you'll start burning yourown fat. And, you know,
and you'll be able to use that asenergy. The brain will run on glucose,
sugar, and, you know, it's,

(32:35):
it's perfectly happy doingthat for the most part.
But what it really likes is ketones.
And once you've exhaustedall the sugar in your
blood, now your body makes someglucose from other things like protein,
whatever. And, and when you needsome, it, it'll make it, you know,

(32:55):
same thing with, uh, a lot of thevitamins and minerals that, uh, we need,
you know, you still need some minerals.Uh, hence the salt. Salt got a bad wrap.
Fat got a bad wrap, was, uh,watching a documentary about it.
And there was this doctor,
and I can't remember what hisname was that came up with the

(33:16):
food pyramid, and, you know,
you should eat 50% carbs and,
and 25% vegetables and,
and fiber and, uh, only, you know,
15% protein and no fat,
or very low fat. And he was aproponent of that diet. They did a, uh,

(33:39):
study in, in the stateof Minnesota, in, uh,
mental institutions,uh, back in the day, uh,
where they could controlwhat everybody ate.
And so they had two differentinstitutions. One was on a low fat,
high carb diet, and theother one was on the, uh,
ketogenic type diet wherethey were high fat and

(34:02):
low carb and low, youknow, everything else.
And the study didn't comeout the way they wanted it.
So they never published it. It gotpublished years later. But the,
the doc that was, uh,
pushing this low fat diet couldn'tbelieve the data and didn't want it
out there because he was a proponentfor the other thing. And, you know,

(34:26):
if you listen to the,uh, diabetes association,
uh, a E D A, yeah, AmericanDiabetes Association,
if you do what they tell you,
all you're gonna do is make the drugcompanies rich and, uh, and die early.
So I ha I hope I can prove this, uh,cuz I'm gonna, I'm gonna try it myself,

(34:46):
or I'm in the processof trying it myself. Uh,
I know it's a little extreme, and, youknow, people get to, oh, you need carbs,
you need this, you need that. Well,no, you don't. And, uh, that's fine.
You can have that opinion, but prove it.
So I'm gonna try, I'm see what's going on.
I did get a continuousblood glucose monitor and I

(35:10):
got it j you know, justbefore I got on this program,
and it's not really a program. I don'thave to pay anybody. I mean, you know,
yeah, I gotta buy bettercuts of beef or beef anyway,
and my blood sugars, uh,
after I ate my normal American diet, uh,

(35:30):
couple of days there and, uh, youknow, my sugar would spike at, uh,
3 75 is the highest I'veseen, and normal is,
you know, somewhere closeto a hundred as you can get.
And that's crazy. So, you know,in fact, it was this morning,
I, I went the other way, soI had my bulletproof coffee,

(35:52):
and that's a whole other thing,by the way. It's really good.
Otherwise known as butter coffee.
So if you're used to havingcreamer in your coffee, try, uh,
putting a pad of butter and a little bitof coconut oil in there, and, uh, yeah,
your, your life will be changed.It's pretty awesome. But,
you know, I did that. And then,uh, today at lunchtime, I,

(36:15):
I had two half pound pattiesof, of beef, you know, burger.
And that's all I've eaten today.I've had water, coffee, and, uh,
and my blood sugar sitting rightnow is at 1 39, and I'm not hungry.
That's the other thing. Uh,you know, when you eat fat,
you eat until it doesn't taste goodanymore. So you're eating, you know,

(36:37):
fatty cuts of beef or,or pork or whatever.
It satiates you. You're fat.
The the fat is what makes yourbrain say, okay, we're full.
And you know, one of the otherdocs I watch on YouTube was saying,
well, the, the whole idea is once you,once you get used to this, you'll,

(36:58):
you'll eat until it doesn'ttaste any good anymore.
And you want to be comfortably stuffed,
but then that's gonna lasta whole lot longer than
bag of Doritos or, uh, youknow, whatever. Or, you know,
a big old pile of french fries,you know, something like that.
One of the other tenets ofthis is don't use any seed

(37:21):
oils. You know,
seed oils like canola oil andcorn oil and, and, you know,
all those supposedlyheart healthy oils, uh,
that was used forindustrial lubrication up
until somebody got thebright idea to cook with it.
And I just, you know, it'snot good. It's inflammatory.

(37:44):
That's the other thing. It's justa lot of inflaming. So, you know,
if you wake up in the morning, you'resore. You know, I'm 57 years old. I,
I wake up in the morningand I'm sore, you know,
for just from sleeping , youknow, I, I don't wanna feel that way.
I don't have to feel that way, I hope.And, and, and I'm really, you know,
wanting to, to get over that.

(38:08):
And I want to get off all these stupiddrugs that they've got me on for
diabetes, and, you know, I wantto have energy and, you know,
sleep better. And, you know,
there's just a whole slew ofthings that if you're eating the,
as Dr. Barry says,
the proper human diet will get you,

(38:30):
you know, in that, in thatmode where, you know, you're,
you're not dependent onall these drugs. Now,
will I get completely off the diabetesdrugs? I don't know. I, I hope so.
That's the plan. But again, you know, I,
I don't know, uh, I know it's improvedtoday, you know, just, you know,
not big evidence, but today, it's much better than,

(38:54):
than it was yesterday, uh,
as far as blood sugar levels andenergy levels. And, uh, you know, I,
I feel pretty good, you know,of course what's not, you know,
I ate a pound of Burger ,so I'll, I'll have another, uh,
another, uh, slug ofsomething, uh, you know, uh,
here after I'm done recordingand, and doing this live thing.

(39:19):
But, you know, I, I, I reallythink it's worth a try. Now,
I'm not going to, uh, makethis podcast all about,
you know, carnivore diets and, andall that stuff. So to that end,
yes, I started another show, .
This one is just metalking on the mic about

(39:40):
my carnivore health journey,and that's what it's called.
So you can find it, uh, whereveryou wanna find podcasts.
And it's a very personalthing, you know, I,
I'm putting it all out there, not hidinganything. So I'll tell you how it goes,
good or bad. Uh, and, you know, I'mnot gonna be doing a lot of 'em.

(40:01):
I may be doing a lot of 'em, depends,it's kind of therapy cuz I wanna do,
I wanna do this show or this, this, uh,
blog vo or audio blog orwhatever you want to call it,
so that I don't drive my friends crazy.I don't drive my coworkers crazy.
I don't drive you crazy, uh, talkingabout it. So it's gonna be, uh,

(40:23):
you know, pretty muchrestricted to that. Uh,
of course my wife is involved.She, uh, she's gonna be the, uh,
chief cook and bottlewasher helping me, uh,
with meal prep and, and all that kindof stuff. But she's on board with me.
Uh, she wants me to stick aroundfor some damn reason. I don't know.
But , that's good. Uh, yeah,

(40:46):
she's downstate then. So I'mbatching it this weekend.
So that'll even be f more fun cuz I won'tbe, uh, drinking beer and it won't be,
uh, eating crazy, uh,
unless you think carnivores crazy.And you're welcome to that opinion.
And please, uh, you know, give me youropinion. What do you think? And, uh,
I'll give you my opinion andmy experience at doing this.

(41:11):
I know it's a little extreme, but, uh,if I didn't do something pretty extreme,
you know,
I might get some biggercomplications than I already have for
being diabetic. And, uh, youknow, I don't want to, uh,
lose a foot or a toe or a leg.
I don't want to go blind. I don'twant to, uh, have, you know,

(41:33):
some of the other stuffthat can happen when, uh,
your sugars are continuallyhigh. And like I said,
if I followed the ADA's guidelines,uh, you know, a few years from now,
I probably wouldn't be in goodshape. So gotta do something,
I might as well do this. So we'll see.
So I think I'm gonna callthat one a podcast. And, uh,

(41:57):
a good test of the live streaming,although I never saw the, uh, the,
uh, notification come up onpod verse like I expected.
So I guess we'll, uh, have to take alook and see what happened there. But
we're, we're getting somewhere, uh,
with all this technology and all that.

(42:17):
So if you wanna check outmy carnivore show, uh,
carnivore vlog pod, notvlog, but, uh, audio,
blog, podcast, whatever, uh,
go over to mike dell.com and there'sa tab up in the main menu there.
You can see all the posts I'm doingabout that. And, uh, and the podcast,

(42:39):
whatever. And go over to podverse or Fountain or Podcast
Index. You know, go overthere and, and, uh, use,
use that app, uh, you know, justfor a couple of shows just to,
just to see how you likeit. I think you'll enjoy it.
And even if you're usingAndroid Auto and uh,
CarPlay Pod verse works with that. Uh,

(43:01):
I just put a CarPlayradio in my truck. Yeah,
I always gotta talkabout vehicles. But, uh,
I put that CarPlay radio in my truckand uh, it's working really good.
It's wireless CarPlay,which is even cooler.
I don't have to plug in. Uh, I just, uh,
jump in the car and, uh,little bit. It's ready to go.

(43:21):
And I can play my podcast anduse navigation and all that.
I highly recommend it. Uh,
I put it in my older truck becauseI ain't buying a new one .
So there it is. Uh, everybody have a good,
uh, until next time I guess, uh,you can catch me later. And again,

(43:43):
check out my carnivore healthjourney over@mikedell.com.
In the upper menu and onpod verse fountain podcast
index cast amatic all,
all good modern podcast apps foundover at podcast or new podcast
apps.com. Whew. What a plug, eh, and,

(44:04):
uh, of course, if you wanna be apodcaster, uh, go over to blueberry.com,
spelled B l u b r r y, and, uh,
we'll take care of you over thereand help you get started in, uh,
podcasting. So everybody havea good whatever, .
Catch me later. Bye.
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