May 5, 2025 • 28 mins
Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Monday 5th of May, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
Buzz Rothfield and Brent Read join Braith & Gorden to recap the amazing Magic Round, dissect the calls made in the final moments of the Raiders and Storm clash, debate whether Nathan Cleary is amongst the pantheon of rugby league halves, and discuss the future selection headache for the Roosters and whether the Broncos are mentally tough.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to our three sixty roughly from every angle. What's
by the new ranger plugging higher? Joining me in the
great Gordon Talis, Let's bring the generator Australian Buzz Rothfield
and Brent Reid.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What a weekend it was?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Magic round, sold our crowd, superstar performances and a bunker
back down.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
How good was it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But it was sensational. It really was an amazing weekend
of footy. We did the Cacks and Street and we
did the hotel there, but the footy. How good was
the football? A couple of games there on Saturday went
down to the wires. Why the Warriors and the Cows
and the Raiders come back yesterday? My goodness was.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Back to what it should be.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Breath with a bunker didn't interfere over five minutes and
we saw some great games as a result of that.
So I think it's the best Magic ground yet it
gets bigger and better every year, and this year was,
as I said, the best Jets.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Tick for everything stadium fans. The football was outstanding. The weather,
like the weather Queensland was perfect one day, just pouring
down rain the next. But like it's just getting bigger
and I didn't think that'd get bigger.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So many great performances, but who stood out? Who was
the team that stood out for you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I mentioned the Canberra Raiders just then. I thought
that was sensational. They've got this never ever give up
mentality down there. Three weeks in a row, they're gone
for all money. To do that against Melbourne Storm is
extra special. That Maddie Nicholson inside ball to pass two weeks.
My goodness, that was a great breath of this wet
(01:43):
It was slippery. Is he buzzy? Not only take the
football this little chip speed?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Could you do that back in the day?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But no, that sort of haughty reminds me of the
great slate to try and it's under press shut in
those conditions, game on the line. The ball from Nicholson.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Was a beauty to it just it just takes away
the coaches instructions, right, so the structure goes away, there's
an offload. He goes back to the kid in the backyard.
What do you want to do one on one with
the fullback? They kick over the top and the conditions
didn't suit him. But that was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Everyone work fox was that. Everyone said Camber finishing the
bottom forward this everybody they where did you have them? Smarty? Yeah,
I know one of your closest mates who had him
for Wooden Spoon he gets We'll ask him on Wednesday, Michael,
(02:41):
carry on. Look, I wasn't I thought they'd bang on
the door for the eight. But they're running what second
and third? Now they're a serious two.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That they were coming from third? What about your team.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Ps Panthers because we were all about to write them
off and you've got to have courage to write off
the Panthers with what they've achieved in the last five years.
And then Brisbane the Grand Final hangover while it's still there.
It just looks like that it's still there. Penrith, what
a performers. They wound back the clock. Nathan Cleary, the
Great Nathan or whatever. The headline was down and he
was absolutely out of He was so.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Good, God, he wasn't he? He vintage Cleary.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Great response after a tough few weeks. We'll talking about
it a little later. It was your team.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But I'm going to go back to Friday night. I
thought the Rusters were brilliant and you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
A big Rooster's taking now I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Outstanding. The Roosters.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I reckon Trent Robinson right now. I mean we know
I wrote them off. I think he's coaching as well
as you have ass Trent Robertson with this team. I
think he's doing an amazing job. And Robert Tory James
Desco brilliant again. Robbie Toyer. Isn't he a star and
he's a Queenslander.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You've changed your tune? This is poetry.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I spoke to Sam Walker up there. He's back soon.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Benefit all this very soon.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now we've got the Premier of Queensland coming up on
our heavy hitters, so we can't wait until David joins us.
The Magic Ground staying in Queensland. I mean it was,
there's no denying how much of a success it was.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Could it work somewhere else? Or do we need to
leave it there?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
It could work break I have a theory actually I
know that.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Look, I love what the Queensland Government's done with it.
They will they will extend there. I think that's undoubted.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I reckon twenty twenty seven, we should take it to
Perth just for one year because the new team's coming in.
Then give it back to as a reward, as a
reward to the Queens of Government for that to go
to Perth twenty twenty seven. Give them a long term extension.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That idea from you, I think it work overseas watching
it's more flagged, but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Do you like the idea? No, I don't. Look not
the first time we've disagreed. Look, we spoke to the
Premier in the green room and he saw Peter the
land today. He wants a rock solid lock in for
another five years and here he explained why he thinks
it's the home and he'll tell you when he comes
in here. But I actually agree with it. I think
(05:12):
it's it's home now. It's like having an EPSOM handicap.
You don't move it to rose Hill. It's like any
the AFL Grand Final. This is a major, major event.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
God yeah, I think bull like I really do. With
Vegas and with what we've got. Now, we've got to
peek at the beginning of the year with Vegas and
we hit it with magic Ground. Then we hit it
with State of Origin, and we can take State of
Origin to other markets, and then we come to the
final series. I think I think it's bulls Eye and
Queensland's love. We are starting a footy. There's four teams.
It's not you know, like there's one game a week everything.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
You know, it's such a shape his event cording. I'd
like him to eventually look at taking overseas. I think
it would work. Take it to Wembley at the end.
I'll buy a super leg played at Wembley.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
One year I mentioned I think it was Abdom you
wrote the article.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, he didn't mention Wembley.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That was ad I mentioned. You need to be very
mind that after Sydney, Queensland is the number two heartland
area for this game. They don't get Grand finals apart
from COVID. This is something that city deserves. But they've
got to pay for it. Because the tour res and
bucks are massive. They will pay for I just think
it's the heart.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I'm not saying take it away from queens for a
long time. I'm saying every now and then, take it
on the road somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The players weren't the only star attractions at Magic Ground.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You two will we hear that you two are signing autographs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Land Goods. That jacket, that pink jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Really well, my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I signed them as Phil Roth asking you.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
To sign autographs, or they were on their jerseys of
jerseys you look selfish, No wonder good bunch of blokes
that's got filing your copy?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's awkwardly. Can I just say the pump suite made
up there? They are so Rugby league, so fanatical, they
love this show.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Every months made you too famous.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Every person I bumped into said, do not copy it
from Braith, just give it to it. Every made you famous?
You reckon ninety.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What about bars in the chair and the help struggling
at one point here is here, look at him?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Sorry for it?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
They'll him out of the chair. Those chairs are very
low breaks. You can see that.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Lucky had read.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Look at he was in real tub. Where are you
going with that pink Jaqueline. I was taking the chair
further silent out on big occasion. It's a big vegas.
I think Origins, Grand finaland Magic.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You saw the fans love it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Gordy must have been Brisbane striker shirt.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's become like a calling card, you know, you know,
come famous.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's a nicer side of him helping an old man,
A nice aside all too rare that we all right.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, the autographs still got me puzzible. But anyway, after
a week of headlines the foot he finally took center
stage at Magic Round, except for the final few moments
in the raiders gutsy win over the Storm.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Oh, it has been a fabulous weekend the rugby league.
Here at some corpse stadium and Magic Round. We have
saved the match on the round. For our final game,
it's the Storm and the Raiders. Far Longo put away
by beating down the sidelight again.
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Change two on one puts a kick in foul.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Then absolutely brilliant rugby league that goes up this lee.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
They come back to the right.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Week's Timmacare against Anderson. He's so hard to start, nephew
timmercle He plants it down and.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's game on.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
Here at sun Cleo working over on the ground terms
there with Joe Tarpani who discusses things in the meantime
while they are you the toss.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Ryan Papenhausen kicks a field goal from right in front
the referee, though has his hands in the air.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Come off Trent his tackle. This is the elbow he's
on report.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's a pelling.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
Trimley Aero penalized for an elbow to the face of
Joe Tammany taking off.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The field goal.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Niggle said, four weeks runs amos papit housen.
Speaker 10 (09:30):
He's a chase weeks over the top.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What a bit and get up right from room service.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh my goodness, Sat, you just love rugby league.
Speaker 10 (09:41):
Lawrence, come to utto Higamau, run in front, slow play
the ball. They won't get to the play the ball.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
He's farting the tackles as fair enough, but I'm sending
him back to play the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And then he carries on with a you go.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
He runs in and joins it when he doesn't need to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
God, it is off.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
On twelve come the black fan side, extend young driving
the day, high count tax and it trapped my air
over agains right in front of shakes in the air
and camera when it's in golden points.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That was the turning point.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Thanks to Ashley and Martin medical hair senters a controversial
finish to the final game. Did anyone have a problem
with those defining calls.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At the end of the game. Yeah, I did. I
thought it was completely puzzling and you could nearly say
that Jared Sartan struggled to hold on to the game.
The Hudson Young tackle near the touch line, he was
penalized for it. It was the most outrageous decision you'll
ever see. It wasn't a penalty. Then he said, oh no,
we'll go back and we'll do the late tackle. You know,
(10:48):
a couple was played before whatever it was, and even
the Utoy Kamanu penalty at the end, I had my
doubts whether that was a penalty. I didn't know that
he'd been clearly told early in the game Aim that
he was on a warning.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I thought he lost control of the referee because he
got this wrong. He was visibly shaken by you could
tell them he was thinking what do I do? So
he went back and gave this penalty, yes, just because
he got that one wrong. And then it was the
next play after he got it wrong, where you Toy
Commander hits it up here. You know, Stalin gets caught
in the rock here and he's trying to play the ball.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I still don't know what the.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Penalty is against you, Toy Kamana for of course, then
there's a male which Hudson Young starts. But then Papa
Li got ten minutes in the bin on Hudson Young
and then you toy Kimmanda gets ten.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Minutes, and I find I haven't seen this footage Broth.
That was obviously the game. But in order to the fund,
I hasn't done anything there.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't know what the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
No, he didn't because Daraling won't get out from underneath him.
Bus Like, I don't know what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
But it was for the way he moved his leg
in a sort of kicking action. It was nothing I
agree with it, but that's what he was here. Jared
Sutain say that something was with the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
He was flustered.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
We should have looked at that and realized that wasn't
the pedalty.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In my opinion, did two players deserve to be ten
in the bin here?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Either didn't do any well. Jared Sutton kept saying, you
could hear the referees Mike that I warned you in
the first half. Any more of this crap and I'm
going to sick someone down. And he's kept his promise.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But what's he done there? Like he didn't start the maleet.
He actually hasn't got engaged in the mallet. He's just
stood there and another look Brady, see him his league here,
and then he tries to come.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I know it's nothing.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I know it's nothing, but already be whether he's warning
and he's trying to get controlled back of the game.
We said that he lost control of the game, and
how do you lose control of the game keep on
breaking the rules?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He lost control and making a stupid decision. He made mistake.
I don't think there the referees and this is not there.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They were enormous comes on the show, tells us he's
going to do something. He did that was a hugely
successful weekend. It was a at the end, I'm on
the plane watching this. We just got off here and
I'm thinking why, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Why, I honestly think you might be going a little
bit harder. You disagreed with me, Well, I agreed with
her that he was close to lose it and I
wouldn't have been a penalty now. But what I'm what
I seen before. I didn't say lost it if you
want to rewind, but what we had eight games of
(13:26):
rugby league up there, and if we're going to pick
five minutes in the last game, I saw so much
great football, so many type finish. I think we've been
a little bit harsh, as much as I disagreed. And
even in that game with the tries, I spoke about
the week's try, the Pappen House and try and with
(13:47):
the NRL, and and I'm as you know, I don't
do their pr But Andrew Abdall was sitting here last week,
and I think the players in the NRL came and
met way this week.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
The players took ownership and round eight sixty two high
tackle penalties round nine over the weekend thirty seven, So
it was a combined effort from both the players and
the referees over the week.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Probably give Craig some credit actually, because the press he
could have lost the plot, and he controlled himself. He
refused to blame the match officials, and he deserves immense.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Credit for players.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
And you know what, Stefano, yeah owned up as well
and said I had a warning warning, I need to
be better in that situation. So they deserve a lot
of credit for the way they now.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Once saw this last night, we found this this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Liero and new Toy Kamana coppying a spray from Craig
Bellamy after the match, he wasn't looking at him. He's
not happy and that that that that decision I said
around new Toy Kimona. It's not to say that Melbourne
didn't completely crumble. The players made the mistakes like Liero twice.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Reckon, Gordon twice, I reckon and then tie game. There
were four cheap shots or Axeville discipline, but it I
think costs them as much as Jared Sutton.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was just looking at that one incident then I
didn't I didn't agree with it, but the rest of
it I was okay with.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
And Craig Bellamy, the one that lives and died was
by the results, had a problem with it and he
had a problem with his players.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And if I was.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Liero, where there we're getting a great opportunity, and I
just go that a little bit further, even.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Though I didn't do anything that bad.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
But if I jamway elbow in his head, there's a
chance that he's going to call it back.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
And the other issue is, as far as Craig was concerned,
they were forty in nell up in that game. And
it's happened a couple of times this year where they've
gone to big leads. They've similarly cruised and it's been
so easy and then they just lost their way and
it happened again the other night, and I think that's
what concerns Craig at the moment, rather than officiated all right.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now, Nathan Clear responds to critics with a terrific effort
against the Broncos. How good was he like that first half?
The last ten or fifteen minutes of the first half
was all he and then he went on to get
even better as it went. You know, I wouldn't say critics,
but there was a few question marks.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And even here on the penel, we're like, do you
pick him?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We're talking about origin, you know, we're even Maddie and Cooper,
we're talking about his.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Style of playing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And he didn't look as confident as he usually did.
And boy was he outstanding on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And tough break. How tough do you play back?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
A couple of times as well by a Catoni bashed
in one moment he got kicked the footy.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They try to me he lives in the head rent free,
like for him just to go, I know what you're
going to do, And they say, Tom Brady knows what
the other team is going to do so much. It's
like Nathan his time away from foot. He goes, well,
I prepared for a Grand Final with you. Let's say,
if you keep on making the old mistakes, and they
kept on making the old mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Adam Reynolds will be sick of the side of him money.
It's got him a few times the weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I said to him, I only viewed him before
the game, and I mentioned Adam and the challenge that
it brings in most halves.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
When you all players.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
When you mentioned the opposition player, we're not going to
come in contact with him, and you know it's very
rare that he's going to go one on one with
the and he took a head on, he goes. I
loved it, the challenge of taking on a quality half
back like Adam Reynolds, and I'm going to hopefully stand
up and deliver it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, I've said for a few years now with the
four titles, I put him up level with Joey and
j T. Thurston. I think we saw that yesterday. That
was a desperation game they lose that they're playing the Broncos,
big Magic Round crowd their home ground up against Reynolds
one of the fort mate for him to deliver under
those circumstances, it was I will get more respect.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
For I think he's still got ourn origin for me.
Before he put him in that bro.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
He's won fifty percent of his origin games fifty.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
But I'll get more respect for Nathan this year playing
with the side that he continue.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
We just love a little snipe like if we're still
okay before.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You put him that class with Lewis and John's and JT.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think he games up. I never said Wally, I
never said.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Okay, he has to. I think he has to.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I Knowledgy, yeah, but I think he can see how
many titles did can I speak? How many titles speak?
I guess how many titles did Thurston went? What about
Joey too? They ever done four in a row, five
Grand Finals straight.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's about that weekend week out Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah, twenty seven week Andrew John's right, everybody goes on.
He won one with Sean Rudder at number six.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Sean Ruds not watching.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I don't care whether I was watching or not. I'm
just I'm just letting you eno if you're talking about
all time number six. It probably doesn't make the top
one hundred. And you talk about Nathan's last twenty Andrew Johns'
first twenty when the game was fresh he blew the
best defensive side or your came out?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you think I'm being disrespectful to Joey by even
having this common versations? I think it's genuine. It's a
genuine conversation.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
But the pub testers someone would come back with another player.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I'm not saying it's not a conversation. I'm worthy conversation,
but I'm wrong. What I'm saying is I don't think
he has dominated dominated that origin yet and origin is
ultimately the greatest test.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
For Andrew John's have won the four Premierships in the
pen Jersey if he was half back? Would would he
have won the four premier.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Look I can't answer that, but most sky clean side.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
But how absolutely he would?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You seem to be downplaying that Joey had when he
was at new Castle. He had his brother who was
the state in Australian. He had Ben Kennedy and the
look Joey didn't play with mugs either, And I'm not
all I've said he's up there with them.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Oh may I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He's just below mem No, he's up there with them.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I'm not disputing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's a great, great football and the best this year.
You weren't listening.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The Broncos crash back down to Earth. You guys mentioned it.
What's going on up there?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
It's frustrating breath because they could play so well one
week and then they play so poorly the other.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And this this is manager's issue at the moment.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I don't know how he resolves it because for me,
it's a mental thing that at the moment, mentally they're
not strong.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
They're not a tough mental team.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
But you know what's what's interesting about is his management
was brought in to build resilience and toughness.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's his specialty.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You know, they already had the team, They already the players,
They already have the skill and where are they struggling
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's probably their mentality and their lack of zillions and toughness.
You know when the games are if they're in a
game at the moment, it might sound a bit harsh,
but will they're watching this live and anyone who was you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Could see the body language as soon as.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They get behind in a game, they sort of drift
out of contention. They just keep drifting.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
There's no real fight in the broncos. I can't see
any fight in them unless they've got the running. They're
off to a fast art and they're dominating the.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Game flat track, bullys Broth said, recording you said.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
In their favor is they've got a very very soft
draw leading and do origin. They've got souse who were
just you know, torn apart with injuries, and they've got
some Georgie Lawara. Then they've got to buy. So I
expect them to get back on track. Breath. You'll laugh
at me that I questioned their pre season training around
(21:49):
Army camps and play it. Why you laugh, Broth?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You did laugh. I kiffs they.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Played flat I don't care what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're blaming the Army camp for yesterday.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, I'm not blaming the Army camp. But I'm just
saying they are playing the last three of their last four.
I'm having a laugh at you, Buzzy. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So does he need the big one here is? And
I've heard this tossed up a few times. Does he
need to rest Adam Reynolds during the season, But you're
you're a fan, this an't you?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah? I am. Well, we all know how old Adam
Reynolds is. We all know that his body cannot possibly
cope with twenty seven weeks of solid n RL football outside.
He can't accord it. You give me a funny look there,
But the bottom line is he.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Is like but he wants to go around for another
company next year. Come on, you.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Can't because clubs have three physios, the head of sports
science and all this sort of thing is to manage
certain footballers. He is not Nathan Clearing and.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Some players just need to learn to suck it up
and play with injuries and play through pain. And when
you're the leader.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
If you didn't have Ben Hunt, and if you didn't
have Ezra Man coming back right, you wouldn't be in
a position to take the luxury of standing. They need him,
Gordy at the back end of the year in the business.
He's been sensational this year up until yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
So then if they rest him, meant that they don't
need him next year, because I know Ben Hunt.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Era, they might get there, get there at the end
of the year, buzz. If he's not playing, if they
rest him.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Just explained to you the door. They've got six points
basically in the bag.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
They just lost the bottom team of the ladder.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's a technicality because they.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Play I mean, the guy you don't play a football
to rest him.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
They pay him a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Roosters were rebuilding, really had them gone?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Are they back on track? Well the moment, yeah, going
really good, but you have to toss that in. Well,
I'm still not convinced. But they're playing really good football
at the moment. As I said earlier, I think Trent
Robinson do an amazing job with her crazy good You
didn't think that a few months yet, I didn't. I
thought I put a line from did you finished?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Did you?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
After round one when they got beaten by Bridge, when
I went and.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hadn't written off?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I did, haven't written off. I'm still I still.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Think the fresh everyone's good a few.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Seasons over can't come July August. I'm not sure why
would you risk him?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in my life.
You're saying, you're saying it is.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Do you think they'll still be in contingent?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You think that will be a right off by then?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Completely right off.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yes, I think that'll be one in seven, in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Over the next sort of you know, six weeks. Okay,
you said they were going to be in contention, but
I think they.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Will Okay, that's your opinion, won't be still, I don't
think they played finals foot of this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, well, we were very strong.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Ready, you're very he said that, he one and seven,
And I tried to explain to you they've got a
good draw and they've got a buye this week and
a buy in another four weeks. I'm still going to
be in twelve points regardless, which is fourth at the moment.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Because anyone gets there.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It's called winning games momentum. Are you happy to own
that you were wrong? No, because I'm not still not convinced.
I make the fine looking really good.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I've said many times you have no medical degree, right,
but here you are bagging me for suggesting Reynolds, and
you want this kid to sit out like please, Actually.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You've got some mail on Walker you spoke to will
be returning.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, he reckon, it's about five weeks maybe, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
After the boys, it's actually good tiring for them. It's
in all seriousness, they've got to buy this week. They
do have some tough games in between their two buyers,
but that coincides with the timing of Walker coming back
around fifteen. Around fifteen, so uh, that Walk was back
and they gain to probably play finals.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
That look, I wouldn't say they played finals, but Walker
will come back because he's coming back.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Bad story.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I'll tell you what's what's an honest thing they both
actually with Walker coming back is Hugo.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Saval was playing really good at the moment. You know,
there's a bit of a selection quandary.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But what selection? But what is it?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
But what do you play Sand and Smith?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Or so he goes?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's the one, right, that's the one because it's a
good point you made because Hu goes. I've been some
impressed with him. He's maturity is beyond his years. And
the key areas where the roosters what they need when
they've got Walker backs a long kicking game, he's a
runner of the foot, he's a big body, is a good,
really good defender.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
We'll see this pressure next week. Who do you pick?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh that this this is tough.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, I'd probably give Sand in the first crack
at the bar right now because because of.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
His ends out day game, you know, like you have to.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But from what I'm seeing, it puts pressure on Sanding
now because and that's why I kind of said what
I did a few weeks ago about seeing him before
the endxact day game. Walker just comes back in. But
who will compliment Walker the most? Who will compliment their
team the most? And given now they are in the
race for the finals and they let's be honest, it's
such an open competition from what we saw on the
on the weekend with no one I need to ask
(27:16):
their and Toyer and the White and they're forwards really
aiming up Walker to come back in. Brandon Smith's a
chance at some point too. They actually could leap frog
a few teams and put themselves in the race. So
it's a big call to mate. It's a big point mates.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know, it's the first time the last couple of
weeks here we go to the foot and you watch
and you see, did you see a nods On favorite
for the premiership in the last two weeks? I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Look.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The other thing is, you know we're talking about the
Rusters outside back. They seem to have clicked since Hugo
came into the side for Chad townshend Okay and Toyer
and said, Billy Smith's a good players and toys he
has been saying two on the well, these guys won't
(28:02):
getting football chap there, you know, and it's changed on
the back of here.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Sure has plenty more to come and after us it's
the latest edition of Maddy and Kron.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Maddy, what do you have for us tonight?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Hey? Thanks Braith.
Speaker 11 (28:16):
Now on the show, we're going to talk about the
return of the Panthers, in particular the performance from Nathan Clear.
We're going to talk about metcalf Lou Metcalfe and his
performance and the rise of the Warriors again a lot
to get through. Some rape person Dogs versus Raiders was
very good for you, Fletcher. Shard was excellent for Fletcher
and I say, guys going to say it again, stop
(28:38):
picking on bars he doesn't like it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Thanks boys,
Welcome to our three sixty roughly from every angle. What's
by the new ranger plugging higher? Joining me in the
great Gordon Talis, Let's bring the generator Australian Buzz Rothfield
and Brent Reid.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What a weekend it was?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Magic round, sold our crowd, superstar performances and a bunker
back down.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
How good was it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But it was sensational. It really was an amazing weekend
of footy. We did the Cacks and Street and we
did the hotel there, but the footy. How good was
the football? A couple of games there on Saturday went
down to the wires. Why the Warriors and the Cows
and the Raiders come back yesterday? My goodness was.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Back to what it should be.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Breath with a bunker didn't interfere over five minutes and
we saw some great games as a result of that.
So I think it's the best Magic ground yet it
gets bigger and better every year, and this year was,
as I said, the best Jets.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Tick for everything stadium fans. The football was outstanding. The weather,
like the weather Queensland was perfect one day, just pouring
down rain the next. But like it's just getting bigger
and I didn't think that'd get bigger.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So many great performances, but who stood out? Who was
the team that stood out for you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I mentioned the Canberra Raiders just then. I thought
that was sensational. They've got this never ever give up
mentality down there. Three weeks in a row, they're gone
for all money. To do that against Melbourne Storm is
extra special. That Maddie Nicholson inside ball to pass two weeks.
My goodness, that was a great breath of this wet
(01:43):
It was slippery. Is he buzzy? Not only take the
football this little chip speed?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Could you do that back in the day?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But no, that sort of haughty reminds me of the
great slate to try and it's under press shut in
those conditions, game on the line. The ball from Nicholson.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Was a beauty to it just it just takes away
the coaches instructions, right, so the structure goes away, there's
an offload. He goes back to the kid in the backyard.
What do you want to do one on one with
the fullback? They kick over the top and the conditions
didn't suit him. But that was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Everyone work fox was that. Everyone said Camber finishing the
bottom forward this everybody they where did you have them? Smarty? Yeah,
I know one of your closest mates who had him
for Wooden Spoon he gets We'll ask him on Wednesday, Michael,
(02:41):
carry on. Look, I wasn't I thought they'd bang on
the door for the eight. But they're running what second
and third? Now they're a serious two.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That they were coming from third? What about your team.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Ps Panthers because we were all about to write them
off and you've got to have courage to write off
the Panthers with what they've achieved in the last five years.
And then Brisbane the Grand Final hangover while it's still there.
It just looks like that it's still there. Penrith, what
a performers. They wound back the clock. Nathan Cleary, the
Great Nathan or whatever. The headline was down and he
was absolutely out of He was so.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Good, God, he wasn't he? He vintage Cleary.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Great response after a tough few weeks. We'll talking about
it a little later. It was your team.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But I'm going to go back to Friday night. I
thought the Rusters were brilliant and you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
A big Rooster's taking now I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Outstanding. The Roosters.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I reckon Trent Robinson right now. I mean we know
I wrote them off. I think he's coaching as well
as you have ass Trent Robertson with this team. I
think he's doing an amazing job. And Robert Tory James
Desco brilliant again. Robbie Toyer. Isn't he a star and
he's a Queenslander.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You've changed your tune? This is poetry.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I spoke to Sam Walker up there. He's back soon.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Benefit all this very soon.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now we've got the Premier of Queensland coming up on
our heavy hitters, so we can't wait until David joins us.
The Magic Ground staying in Queensland. I mean it was,
there's no denying how much of a success it was.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Could it work somewhere else? Or do we need to
leave it there?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
It could work break I have a theory actually I
know that.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Look, I love what the Queensland Government's done with it.
They will they will extend there. I think that's undoubted.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I reckon twenty twenty seven, we should take it to
Perth just for one year because the new team's coming in.
Then give it back to as a reward, as a
reward to the Queens of Government for that to go
to Perth twenty twenty seven. Give them a long term extension.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That idea from you, I think it work overseas watching
it's more flagged, but it is.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Do you like the idea? No, I don't. Look not
the first time we've disagreed. Look, we spoke to the
Premier in the green room and he saw Peter the
land today. He wants a rock solid lock in for
another five years and here he explained why he thinks
it's the home and he'll tell you when he comes
in here. But I actually agree with it. I think
(05:12):
it's it's home now. It's like having an EPSOM handicap.
You don't move it to rose Hill. It's like any
the AFL Grand Final. This is a major, major event.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
God yeah, I think bull like I really do. With
Vegas and with what we've got. Now, we've got to
peek at the beginning of the year with Vegas and
we hit it with magic Ground. Then we hit it
with State of Origin, and we can take State of
Origin to other markets, and then we come to the
final series. I think I think it's bulls Eye and
Queensland's love. We are starting a footy. There's four teams.
It's not you know, like there's one game a week everything.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
You know, it's such a shape his event cording. I'd
like him to eventually look at taking overseas. I think
it would work. Take it to Wembley at the end.
I'll buy a super leg played at Wembley.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
One year I mentioned I think it was Abdom you
wrote the article.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, he didn't mention Wembley.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That was ad I mentioned. You need to be very
mind that after Sydney, Queensland is the number two heartland
area for this game. They don't get Grand finals apart
from COVID. This is something that city deserves. But they've
got to pay for it. Because the tour res and
bucks are massive. They will pay for I just think
it's the heart.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I'm not saying take it away from queens for a
long time. I'm saying every now and then, take it
on the road somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The players weren't the only star attractions at Magic Ground.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You two will we hear that you two are signing autographs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Land Goods. That jacket, that pink jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Really well, my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I signed them as Phil Roth asking you.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
To sign autographs, or they were on their jerseys of
jerseys you look selfish, No wonder good bunch of blokes
that's got filing your copy?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's awkwardly. Can I just say the pump suite made
up there? They are so Rugby league, so fanatical, they
love this show.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Every months made you too famous.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Every person I bumped into said, do not copy it
from Braith, just give it to it. Every made you famous?
You reckon ninety.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What about bars in the chair and the help struggling
at one point here is here, look at him?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Sorry for it?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
They'll him out of the chair. Those chairs are very
low breaks. You can see that.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Lucky had read.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Look at he was in real tub. Where are you
going with that pink Jaqueline. I was taking the chair
further silent out on big occasion. It's a big vegas.
I think Origins, Grand finaland Magic.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
You saw the fans love it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Gordy must have been Brisbane striker shirt.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's become like a calling card, you know, you know,
come famous.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's a nicer side of him helping an old man,
A nice aside all too rare that we all right.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, the autographs still got me puzzible. But anyway, after
a week of headlines the foot he finally took center
stage at Magic Round, except for the final few moments
in the raiders gutsy win over the Storm.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Oh, it has been a fabulous weekend the rugby league.
Here at some corpse stadium and Magic Round. We have
saved the match on the round. For our final game,
it's the Storm and the Raiders. Far Longo put away
by beating down the sidelight again.
Speaker 10 (08:39):
Change two on one puts a kick in foul.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Then absolutely brilliant rugby league that goes up this lee.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
They come back to the right.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Week's Timmacare against Anderson. He's so hard to start, nephew
timmercle He plants it down and.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's game on.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
Here at sun Cleo working over on the ground terms
there with Joe Tarpani who discusses things in the meantime
while they are you the toss.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Ryan Papenhausen kicks a field goal from right in front
the referee, though has his hands in the air.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Come off Trent his tackle. This is the elbow he's
on report.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's a pelling.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
Trimley Aero penalized for an elbow to the face of
Joe Tammany taking off.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The field goal.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Niggle said, four weeks runs amos papit housen.
Speaker 10 (09:30):
He's a chase weeks over the top.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What a bit and get up right from room service.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh my goodness, Sat, you just love rugby league.
Speaker 10 (09:41):
Lawrence, come to utto Higamau, run in front, slow play
the ball. They won't get to the play the ball.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
He's farting the tackles as fair enough, but I'm sending
him back to play the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And then he carries on with a you go.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
He runs in and joins it when he doesn't need to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
God, it is off.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
On twelve come the black fan side, extend young driving
the day, high count tax and it trapped my air
over agains right in front of shakes in the air
and camera when it's in golden points.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That was the turning point.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Thanks to Ashley and Martin medical hair senters a controversial
finish to the final game. Did anyone have a problem
with those defining calls.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At the end of the game. Yeah, I did. I
thought it was completely puzzling and you could nearly say
that Jared Sartan struggled to hold on to the game.
The Hudson Young tackle near the touch line, he was
penalized for it. It was the most outrageous decision you'll
ever see. It wasn't a penalty. Then he said, oh no,
we'll go back and we'll do the late tackle. You know,
(10:48):
a couple was played before whatever it was, and even
the Utoy Kamanu penalty at the end, I had my
doubts whether that was a penalty. I didn't know that
he'd been clearly told early in the game Aim that
he was on a warning.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I thought he lost control of the referee because he
got this wrong. He was visibly shaken by you could
tell them he was thinking what do I do? So
he went back and gave this penalty, yes, just because
he got that one wrong. And then it was the
next play after he got it wrong, where you Toy
Commander hits it up here. You know, Stalin gets caught
in the rock here and he's trying to play the ball.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I still don't know what the.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Penalty is against you, Toy Kamana for of course, then
there's a male which Hudson Young starts. But then Papa
Li got ten minutes in the bin on Hudson Young
and then you toy Kimmanda gets ten.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Minutes, and I find I haven't seen this footage Broth.
That was obviously the game. But in order to the fund,
I hasn't done anything there.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't know what the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
No, he didn't because Daraling won't get out from underneath him.
Bus Like, I don't know what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
But it was for the way he moved his leg
in a sort of kicking action. It was nothing I
agree with it, but that's what he was here. Jared
Sutain say that something was with the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
He was flustered.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
We should have looked at that and realized that wasn't
the pedalty.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In my opinion, did two players deserve to be ten
in the bin here?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Either didn't do any well. Jared Sutton kept saying, you
could hear the referees Mike that I warned you in
the first half. Any more of this crap and I'm
going to sick someone down. And he's kept his promise.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But what's he done there? Like he didn't start the maleet.
He actually hasn't got engaged in the mallet. He's just
stood there and another look Brady, see him his league here,
and then he tries to come.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I know it's nothing.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I know it's nothing, but already be whether he's warning
and he's trying to get controlled back of the game.
We said that he lost control of the game, and
how do you lose control of the game keep on
breaking the rules?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
He lost control and making a stupid decision. He made mistake.
I don't think there the referees and this is not there.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They were enormous comes on the show, tells us he's
going to do something. He did that was a hugely
successful weekend. It was a at the end, I'm on
the plane watching this. We just got off here and
I'm thinking why, you know, just.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Why, I honestly think you might be going a little
bit harder. You disagreed with me, Well, I agreed with
her that he was close to lose it and I
wouldn't have been a penalty now. But what I'm what
I seen before. I didn't say lost it if you
want to rewind, but what we had eight games of
(13:26):
rugby league up there, and if we're going to pick
five minutes in the last game, I saw so much
great football, so many type finish. I think we've been
a little bit harsh, as much as I disagreed. And
even in that game with the tries, I spoke about
the week's try, the Pappen House and try and with
(13:47):
the NRL, and and I'm as you know, I don't
do their pr But Andrew Abdall was sitting here last week,
and I think the players in the NRL came and
met way this week.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
The players took ownership and round eight sixty two high
tackle penalties round nine over the weekend thirty seven, So
it was a combined effort from both the players and
the referees over the week.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Probably give Craig some credit actually, because the press he
could have lost the plot, and he controlled himself. He
refused to blame the match officials, and he deserves immense.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Credit for players.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
And you know what, Stefano, yeah owned up as well
and said I had a warning warning, I need to
be better in that situation. So they deserve a lot
of credit for the way they now.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Once saw this last night, we found this this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Liero and new Toy Kamana coppying a spray from Craig
Bellamy after the match, he wasn't looking at him. He's
not happy and that that that that decision I said
around new Toy Kimona. It's not to say that Melbourne
didn't completely crumble. The players made the mistakes like Liero twice.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Reckon, Gordon twice, I reckon and then tie game. There
were four cheap shots or Axeville discipline, but it I
think costs them as much as Jared Sutton.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was just looking at that one incident then I
didn't I didn't agree with it, but the rest of
it I was okay with.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
And Craig Bellamy, the one that lives and died was
by the results, had a problem with it and he
had a problem with his players.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And if I was.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Liero, where there we're getting a great opportunity, and I
just go that a little bit further, even.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Though I didn't do anything that bad.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
But if I jamway elbow in his head, there's a
chance that he's going to call it back.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
And the other issue is, as far as Craig was concerned,
they were forty in nell up in that game. And
it's happened a couple of times this year where they've
gone to big leads. They've similarly cruised and it's been
so easy and then they just lost their way and
it happened again the other night, and I think that's
what concerns Craig at the moment, rather than officiated all right.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now, Nathan Clear responds to critics with a terrific effort
against the Broncos. How good was he like that first half?
The last ten or fifteen minutes of the first half
was all he and then he went on to get
even better as it went. You know, I wouldn't say critics,
but there was a few question marks.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And even here on the penel, we're like, do you
pick him?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We're talking about origin, you know, we're even Maddie and Cooper,
we're talking about his.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Style of playing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And he didn't look as confident as he usually did.
And boy was he outstanding on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And tough break. How tough do you play back?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
A couple of times as well by a Catoni bashed
in one moment he got kicked the footy.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They try to me he lives in the head rent free,
like for him just to go, I know what you're
going to do, And they say, Tom Brady knows what
the other team is going to do so much. It's
like Nathan his time away from foot. He goes, well,
I prepared for a Grand Final with you. Let's say,
if you keep on making the old mistakes, and they
kept on making the old mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Adam Reynolds will be sick of the side of him money.
It's got him a few times the weekend.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I said to him, I only viewed him before
the game, and I mentioned Adam and the challenge that
it brings in most halves.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
When you all players.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
When you mentioned the opposition player, we're not going to
come in contact with him, and you know it's very
rare that he's going to go one on one with
the and he took a head on, he goes. I
loved it, the challenge of taking on a quality half
back like Adam Reynolds, and I'm going to hopefully stand
up and deliver it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, I've said for a few years now with the
four titles, I put him up level with Joey and
j T. Thurston. I think we saw that yesterday. That
was a desperation game they lose that they're playing the Broncos,
big Magic Round crowd their home ground up against Reynolds
one of the fort mate for him to deliver under
those circumstances, it was I will get more respect.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
For I think he's still got ourn origin for me.
Before he put him in that bro.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
He's won fifty percent of his origin games fifty.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
But I'll get more respect for Nathan this year playing
with the side that he continue.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
We just love a little snipe like if we're still
okay before.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You put him that class with Lewis and John's and JT.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think he games up. I never said Wally, I
never said.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Okay, he has to. I think he has to.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I Knowledgy, yeah, but I think he can see how
many titles did can I speak? How many titles speak?
I guess how many titles did Thurston went? What about
Joey too? They ever done four in a row, five
Grand Finals straight.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's about that weekend week out Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Yeah, twenty seven week Andrew John's right, everybody goes on.
He won one with Sean Rudder at number six.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Sean Ruds not watching.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I don't care whether I was watching or not. I'm
just I'm just letting you eno if you're talking about
all time number six. It probably doesn't make the top
one hundred. And you talk about Nathan's last twenty Andrew Johns'
first twenty when the game was fresh he blew the
best defensive side or your came out?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Do you think I'm being disrespectful to Joey by even
having this common versations? I think it's genuine. It's a
genuine conversation.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
But the pub testers someone would come back with another player.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I'm not saying it's not a conversation. I'm worthy conversation,
but I'm wrong. What I'm saying is I don't think
he has dominated dominated that origin yet and origin is
ultimately the greatest test.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
For Andrew John's have won the four Premierships in the
pen Jersey if he was half back? Would would he
have won the four premier.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Look I can't answer that, but most sky clean side.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
But how absolutely he would?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You seem to be downplaying that Joey had when he
was at new Castle. He had his brother who was
the state in Australian. He had Ben Kennedy and the
look Joey didn't play with mugs either, And I'm not
all I've said he's up there with them.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Oh may I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He's just below mem No, he's up there with them.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I'm not disputing.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's a great, great football and the best this year.
You weren't listening.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The Broncos crash back down to Earth. You guys mentioned it.
What's going on up there?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
It's frustrating breath because they could play so well one
week and then they play so poorly the other.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And this this is manager's issue at the moment.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I don't know how he resolves it because for me,
it's a mental thing that at the moment, mentally they're
not strong.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
They're not a tough mental team.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
But you know what's what's interesting about is his management
was brought in to build resilience and toughness.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's his specialty.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You know, they already had the team, They already the players,
They already have the skill and where are they struggling
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's probably their mentality and their lack of zillions and toughness.
You know when the games are if they're in a
game at the moment, it might sound a bit harsh,
but will they're watching this live and anyone who was you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Could see the body language as soon as.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
They get behind in a game, they sort of drift
out of contention. They just keep drifting.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
There's no real fight in the broncos. I can't see
any fight in them unless they've got the running. They're
off to a fast art and they're dominating the.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Game flat track, bullys Broth said, recording you said.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
In their favor is they've got a very very soft
draw leading and do origin. They've got souse who were
just you know, torn apart with injuries, and they've got
some Georgie Lawara. Then they've got to buy. So I
expect them to get back on track. Breath. You'll laugh
at me that I questioned their pre season training around
(21:49):
Army camps and play it. Why you laugh, Broth?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You did laugh. I kiffs they.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Played flat I don't care what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You're blaming the Army camp for yesterday.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, I'm not blaming the Army camp. But I'm just
saying they are playing the last three of their last four.
I'm having a laugh at you, Buzzy. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So does he need the big one here is? And
I've heard this tossed up a few times. Does he
need to rest Adam Reynolds during the season, But you're
you're a fan, this an't you?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah? I am. Well, we all know how old Adam
Reynolds is. We all know that his body cannot possibly
cope with twenty seven weeks of solid n RL football outside.
He can't accord it. You give me a funny look there,
But the bottom line is he.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Is like but he wants to go around for another
company next year. Come on, you.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Can't because clubs have three physios, the head of sports
science and all this sort of thing is to manage
certain footballers. He is not Nathan Clearing and.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Some players just need to learn to suck it up
and play with injuries and play through pain. And when
you're the leader.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
If you didn't have Ben Hunt, and if you didn't
have Ezra Man coming back right, you wouldn't be in
a position to take the luxury of standing. They need him,
Gordy at the back end of the year in the business.
He's been sensational this year up until yesterday.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
So then if they rest him, meant that they don't
need him next year, because I know Ben Hunt.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Era, they might get there, get there at the end
of the year, buzz. If he's not playing, if they
rest him.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Just explained to you the door. They've got six points
basically in the bag.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
They just lost the bottom team of the ladder.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's a technicality because they.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Play I mean, the guy you don't play a football
to rest him.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
They pay him a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Roosters were rebuilding, really had them gone?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Are they back on track? Well the moment, yeah, going
really good, but you have to toss that in. Well,
I'm still not convinced. But they're playing really good football
at the moment. As I said earlier, I think Trent
Robinson do an amazing job with her crazy good You
didn't think that a few months yet, I didn't. I
thought I put a line from did you finished?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Did you?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
After round one when they got beaten by Bridge, when
I went and.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hadn't written off?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I did, haven't written off. I'm still I still.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Think the fresh everyone's good a few.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Seasons over can't come July August. I'm not sure why
would you risk him?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in my life.
You're saying, you're saying it is.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Do you think they'll still be in contingent?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You think that will be a right off by then?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Completely right off.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yes, I think that'll be one in seven, in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Over the next sort of you know, six weeks. Okay,
you said they were going to be in contention, but
I think they.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Will Okay, that's your opinion, won't be still, I don't
think they played finals foot of this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, well, we were very strong.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Ready, you're very he said that, he one and seven,
And I tried to explain to you they've got a
good draw and they've got a buye this week and
a buy in another four weeks. I'm still going to
be in twelve points regardless, which is fourth at the moment.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Because anyone gets there.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It's called winning games momentum. Are you happy to own
that you were wrong? No, because I'm not still not convinced.
I make the fine looking really good.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I've said many times you have no medical degree, right,
but here you are bagging me for suggesting Reynolds, and
you want this kid to sit out like please, Actually.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You've got some mail on Walker you spoke to will
be returning.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, he reckon, it's about five weeks maybe, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
After the boys, it's actually good tiring for them. It's
in all seriousness, they've got to buy this week. They
do have some tough games in between their two buyers,
but that coincides with the timing of Walker coming back
around fifteen. Around fifteen, so uh, that Walk was back
and they gain to probably play finals.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
That look, I wouldn't say they played finals, but Walker
will come back because he's coming back.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Bad story.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I'll tell you what's what's an honest thing they both
actually with Walker coming back is Hugo.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Saval was playing really good at the moment. You know,
there's a bit of a selection quandary.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
But what selection? But what is it?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
But what do you play Sand and Smith?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Or so he goes?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's the one, right, that's the one because it's a
good point you made because Hu goes. I've been some
impressed with him. He's maturity is beyond his years. And
the key areas where the roosters what they need when
they've got Walker backs a long kicking game, he's a
runner of the foot, he's a big body, is a good,
really good defender.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
We'll see this pressure next week. Who do you pick?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Oh that this this is tough.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, I'd probably give Sand in the first crack
at the bar right now because because of.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
His ends out day game, you know, like you have to.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But from what I'm seeing, it puts pressure on Sanding
now because and that's why I kind of said what
I did a few weeks ago about seeing him before
the endxact day game. Walker just comes back in. But
who will compliment Walker the most? Who will compliment their
team the most? And given now they are in the
race for the finals and they let's be honest, it's
such an open competition from what we saw on the
on the weekend with no one I need to ask
(27:16):
their and Toyer and the White and they're forwards really
aiming up Walker to come back in. Brandon Smith's a
chance at some point too. They actually could leap frog
a few teams and put themselves in the race. So
it's a big call to mate. It's a big point mates.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know, it's the first time the last couple of
weeks here we go to the foot and you watch
and you see, did you see a nods On favorite
for the premiership in the last two weeks? I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Look.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The other thing is, you know we're talking about the
Rusters outside back. They seem to have clicked since Hugo
came into the side for Chad townshend Okay and Toyer
and said, Billy Smith's a good players and toys he
has been saying two on the well, these guys won't
(28:02):
getting football chap there, you know, and it's changed on
the back of here.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Sure has plenty more to come and after us it's
the latest edition of Maddy and Kron.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Maddy, what do you have for us tonight?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Hey? Thanks Braith.
Speaker 11 (28:16):
Now on the show, we're going to talk about the
return of the Panthers, in particular the performance from Nathan Clear.
We're going to talk about metcalf Lou Metcalfe and his
performance and the rise of the Warriors again a lot
to get through. Some rape person Dogs versus Raiders was
very good for you, Fletcher. Shard was excellent for Fletcher
and I say, guys going to say it again, stop
(28:38):
picking on bars he doesn't like it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Thanks boys,
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