Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Tuesday 27th of May, with hosts Braith Anasta and Gorden Tallis.
The boys are joined by Paul Crawley and James Hooper to discuss the ongoing saga involving Gus Gould and Lachlan Galvin's transfer to the Bulldogs. The NSW Blues team manager Frank Ponissi also jumps on live to give an inside look at Origin camp just days out from Game 1 - with fitness updates, team energy, and early signs from training.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to an l three sixty year rugby league from
every angle, Joman of the Great Gordon Tallis. It's bring
the Journal Australian Paul Crawley and James Hooper and his
Origin Eve and we have breaking news from the great
Bulldog Richie. Stephen Crichton has been cleared to play. So
good news for New South Wales and their fans he
will take the field tomorrow night. And good news for
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Queensland or not.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Ah well, it all depends if he's got any sort
of injury and didn't do the captains run. It's and
Stephen Crichton not one hundred percent, that's better for Queensland
than Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
At one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm happy with this.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You can't play Origin if you're not one hundred percent okay.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I don't think you would play Origin unless he feel
he could get through the game and at his best.
He's just about the most inspirational player of the game.
Like look what he did a few weeks ago again
in the second half against Canberra. That's what he's capable of.
He has been the biggest single factor in the Bulldogs
leading the premiership this year.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
He's a massive in.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It'd be devastating for New South Wales. As good a
player as Campbell Graham is to have had the preparation
that they have and then lose Stephen Crichton in the
final twenty four hours would be a cruel blow.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
So that's a big gin.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
He's a beast and a big game player. We've seen
that in Grand Finals, We've seen it at the Origin level.
He just gets it done. His defense is amazing and
his attack he's got some special He's got the X factor.
You know, he can create something out of nothing. He's
done it for Canterbury. He's done on all levels and
even at eighty ninety percent, I'm happy with him in
that team. Now, it's been forty eight hours since Galvin's
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camp decided he was going to the Bulldogs. What's the
hold up that though? Why hasn't he signed or officially
agreed to Turms? Do we know?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Is it going to be close or I think it's close.
I think it definitely happens this week. But for whatever reason,
I think maybe the agent likes a little bit of
power and control games, so that could be why the
handbrake's just been pulled slightly.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
But I think it will happen across.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's look how many clubs at this time of
the year have this sort of money sitting there just
waiting for someone to come along like Gust That had
only happened in the last week.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
So I'd imagine it takes a little bit time to plan.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think you shuffling at the decks a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Oh well, who knows.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like if you're a cynic, which I am, you listen
to Guss's denials about this for months, and you look
at all the evidence that all along, going back to
last August, indicated that there was a love affair here,
that he wanted him at the Bulldogs, and it's almost
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like this has been manipulated to occur over a period
of time, And even recently Guss did say in one
of his podcasts that he didn't think that Stephen sorry
Lachlan Galvin could stay at the Tigers, and so you know,
and then we're led to believe this has all happened
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when the goalpost changed a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Really does that come down?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Did we come down to the last shower?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But is that good business if you're running a club
like the Dogs and you're keeping them off the scent.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well, Gordon, it is.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But he also has an obligation to everyone who watches
his programs and listens to what he says to at
least give him an indication of what the truth is,
and we see it here on this table.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Breath.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You're often put in a position where you have to
comment about players that you manage, and you don't sit
there and try and lead us astray. There may be
some things that you can't talk about God, but you
also have to give an honest insight into where you
stand as a commentator.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I think where the lions get blurred around us is
and this is what agitates and infuriates rival clubs. No
when they're all blowing up at the moment they've all
been at head office at Andrew Abdahen Peter Lany's that
he is highly paid as the face or one of
the faces of Channel nine, and then he's also highly
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paid as the general manager.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Of football of the Bulldogs.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And in his running commentary on lockey Galvin it's now
clear in the fullness of time that it doesn't appear
as though he's been transparent the entire time he's at
the Bowl. The flipper and the doucer and the slider
and everything else. At stages, he's got the outcome he wants.
It's the best result for the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He suggested last night that it was unfair that he
had to answer the cliff.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's unfair, then don't cop a million a year off
Channel nine. So if you don't want the money off
Channel nine, that's fine, But otherwise you are going to
have to sit on that panel and you are going
to have to at times answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What do we make of his explanation last night and
that going to tie with Chemis, it was pretty confrontational,
and Chemis he held his gloves up. What did you
guys think of it?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Chemist did his job? He for once.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Gus was he was he was put to the sword,
he was questioned.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I thought he looked nervous. I thought he looked.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Anxious about his responses, you know, like he can say
until he's blue in the face that this has all
happened in recent days since Galvin was given permission to
talk to other clubs. But I think the NRRUL, as
the governing body of our game, owe it to the
other clubs. You talk about the other clubs. I think
we have rules in place, and I'm not accusing Gus
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of doing the wrong thing here, but I think the
NR rel oh it to the clubs to do a
proper investigation into this and try and find out exactly
when the phone calls did start.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
They might be telling them the complete truth, but because
there is so much innuendo out there, the game owes
it to everyone to tell us what the truth was.
But we had that investigation a couple of years ago.
Ben Hunt, when there was accusations flying at the time,
just disappeared into the eth what's the use.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Of having a rule about what's the use of having
the rules? There's the rules of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think he's playing within the rules because you can
talk about players.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
You just can't according that.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You used to be able to talk, but you couldn't
sign the contract until November one.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Now you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Allowed to negotiating.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
There's no negotiations at all.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But don't they negotiating now, or.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Well they are now because that club's given them permission
to do.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
They're all negotiating all the time. We all know that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
So what's head office have the rules?
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It's a fair question.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
His head office scared of Gus because you go back
to last year and there was a stage where they
hid him with a breach notice for comments that he'd
made in the media and on television, and they're adamant
that they were going to stick to their guns. And
it was a twenty thousand dollars Fine. Well, in the end,
they're not scared.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They're not scared. They're actually trying to come up with
some sort of way of stopping what's happened over the
past few months from happening.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But it's hard because it's quite simple.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But how simple is it?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
This is how simple it is. Don't allow it like
who runs the game? Do the agents run the game?
Do the clubs run the game? No, they don't. The
NRL runs the game. The governing body runs the game.
If you sign a contract, this is how easy it is.
You sign a contract and you have thirty players in
your squad, and usually they sign off on those guys
by early rounds. Make them play out the season at
least if you know there's always going to be Shenanigan's
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in the off season and deals will be done. Let
that be the trade window, but for the duration of
the season.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Keep the players at the.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Unless you come up unless a club or an agent
can come up with extenuating circumstances that they did, and
the bar is set really, really high. It happens all
the time, goodon. So it's the biggest blood on the game,
and it has.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
To be the general behind a trade window. But the
RLPA are not Clinton.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who runs the status plate.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But they're in partnership now and there's the players have
a huge stay through the APLA. So just to get
something clear that they are behind it and they're pushing
for it. And going back to how do you stop
someone like Gus or even me, You know, people talk
about conflict of interests, and how do you stop the
likes of all the people we've got on our panels
who are involved in clubs in Channel and nine who
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are all involved in clubs and got jobs there, and
of having opinions on players and coaches, and where do you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Draw the line. You can't stop that. But going back
to the question that we just spoke about, if you stop.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Players willy nilly and clubs and clubs switching and changing
and getting out of a deal here and getting out
of it, it's very easy to stop.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Don't allow it, don't allow it until the off season.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Your answer is.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Twenty four hours before the State of Origin game and
the biggest story in rugby league and the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Story you have to leave the biggest story and you
have to talk about the biggest story State of Origin.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It's not at the moment.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's a nine en year old kid that's played about
thirty first grade games, so that's why we're talking about it.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Then they can change the narrow We've got.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
To change clubs for moving kids on too. So if
they make of course that, they've got to stay with
him as well.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And I think there may be you know, circumstances where
a club loses a stack of players through injury or
something personal has happened that is unavoidable. But in these
instances made if you made clubs stick to their roster,
then it becomes a battle of endurance, you know, survival
of the fittest.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And it's a simple solution.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It cross on the flip side as well. Clubs tap players.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
On the shoulder and make you stop it both ways.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You stop it both ways, and you give them the
fans out there, they can make it a better world, mate,
They can they can.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Make no question, there's a better system than the mess
that it is at the moment. Because we've had DC,
we've had Dylan Brown, now it's Lachland Galvin. It's dominated
front and back pages for months.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To be disappointed parafans. It was a shot of a
para guy with Galvin on the back of a parent managers,
So how do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They fix it there?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
But how do they fix it?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But tell me how would the speculation stop if there
was a transfer.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You'll never stop the speculation and you'll never talk stop
all the talk that goes on behind the scenes, as
you just said, But at least during the competition. If
you stop players transferring, this doesn't happen and finishes the
season at Westcott Tigers and at the end of the
season they come up with a plan to.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Get in there.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
If a player goes to a club and says that
he's been bullied.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well yeah, well then then it requires an investigation. But
don't don't you think.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So post is not that's not bullying.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I don't believe it is either. But it finds a
show of respect to his coach.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
On that I think you'll find that list of grievances
that the agent went into Riche's office with It's not
just about the little snapchat in the Instagram past. There's
a hell of a lot of detail and all of that,
and it would be ugly and dirty laundry head in
public if it did make its way into the courts.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's interesting all right. Now, Tracking back to Gould and
Chemist last night, worked colleagues, when Toe to Toe on air,
we all saw it, whether it was on the show
or Socials, all throughout the day.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I liked it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Apparently it went beyond are off.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Yeah, well, I was watching it live.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
It felt like they were sort of forced into an
ad break because it looked as it was starting to
get a little bit overly heated.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
And then when it did cut to the ad break.
Talking to people who were there today, they certainly suggested
that Guss wasn't overly happy. He felt as though, I
think there might have been a couple of exclusives used,
and he felt as though his integrity had been questioned.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So it continued when when they kept.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Going after after the after the cut to an ad break,
it definitely there was definitely further words exchange.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You think we'll see Chamis on the panel anytime soon.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Well, he've got rissold last week at the behest of
eyeser at.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
They stick by him because I thought he.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Did his job. Yeah, I thought he did too. I
mean it's all you know, it's very rare that Gus
gets questioned about his actions and his comments. And I
love the fact that right or wrong, Chemis didn't back
down like he backed himself. Continue to take him on.
And Gus is an intimidating guy, not only because he's
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again one of the brightest minds in our game, but
he's one of the most experienced, he's one of the
most powerful. He's one of the most intimidating. And Chamis
just went went went for it and didn't take it
backward step. And you've got to respect that, you know,
not many guys have got the you know what to
do that, And I thought Mick did a good job.
Now you've got a little bit of a beef with
the three hundred less. Yeah, well that Galvin has taken
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to go to the dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Look, it could again, it could be all above board,
but there are clubs out there who rightfully question, how
do a guy that was offered a million dollars a
season has now accepted three hundred thousand dollars less a season,
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and it's just it's a stain on the salary cap
that we don't have any transparency when it comes to
third parties, when it comes to contracts.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
We had an incident at.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
The Bulldogs a few years ago where Buzz reported was
it two years ago now with Tino when they were
following Tino and.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Arthur Lorndy had come.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Out publicly and suggested that he was willing, you know,
he wanted to make the bill a big statement at
the Bulldogs and he was willing to let players invest
in their pubs and guarantee the money. And of course
the NRL didn't allow that, didn't allow that at the time.
But then you see players going to the Bulldogs and again,
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in no way are we suggesting they are doing the
wrong thing. But you have player like Leo Thompson in
recent times who the Canberra Raiders offered eight hundred thousand
dollars a season and he goes there for massive unders
and then now Lachland Galvin goes there for massive unders.
And the salary cap is the integrity behind what's supposed
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to make it a fair and level, a valid.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Points so Ben Hunt was on a million dollars what
six hundred of Brisbane Now they say Adam renders all
as he wants is three hundred. It's actually unfair on
the sides down the bottom that are struggling to sign
these guys. You got the West Tigers offer a million
dollars over and step fanho and they get out played
by the bigger clubs. I didn't get off the bat.
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I've got a different take on this.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think it says more about the clubs they're leaving
than the lines that they're going to and from.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
My experience to get all that, but it's still under this.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Let me just explain. So if I myself would take
one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars less to go
to a club to win a premiership, it was one
of the apart from having kids, best feeling in my life.
There is no better feeling. And when you're a player
like Lachlan Galvin who goes into the Bulldog system for
two to three hundred thousand dollars less, I don't even
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know what the third parties are. He's got fifteen years
in our game, He's only going to be His value
is going to go up. He's going to make millions
of dollars over that time, and he's going to be
financially secure. And there are only limited premiership windows at
certain clubs at certain times, and the Bulldogs are in
one right now. And if you said to me, if
I was in his position and he was my client,
I'd be pushing him to the Bulldogs and I'd say, mate,
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go there. You're going to get developed, you'll become a
better player. By the time you leave, your value is
going to go up every year, and you've got a
chance of winning a premiership. And to take two hundred
thousand dollars less two hundred fifty thousand dollars less right
now for longevity and your value in the game and
the position you're in right now, that's a decision.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
You're one hundred percent right, right, and it goes both ways.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You will also see if we had transparency there, and
they do it around the world and the NBA and
that you can call up any player and you know
what to a cent, what they get. And at least
if we had that transparency here, we could see the
good job that the good clubs are doing, and they're
not so good job that the other clubs may be doing.
But at least it's there for the fans that you
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want if they follow your game, it's there for them
to see.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But it's still hard for the fans to swallow when
everybody else that's gone to the dogs and cry and
then kick out. I've gone for more money, but they
went they left the premiership side, so they go that.
So they're winning premierships. They've left the premiership winning side,
winning trophies to go play for more money.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's really hard for some fans to swallow.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You make a great point Crawls in that the overseas sports,
so Major League Baseball, the NBA, the NFL, you can
look up a player and it is all black and white.
They're completely transparent. You know exactly how much money each
player on. That is on the only thing I would
be curious about if they did go down that road
in rugby league. Firstly, I think the RPA would block it.
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I don't think they'd allow it. That's a position that
they've taken previously. But third parties do You then also
have to publish.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's well almost the most important thing because when you
see these deals, you don't know the third parties that
are behind them. And I think that again, if if
clubs are good enough to have these, you know, legitimate
third party deals to prop up, you know, at least if.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
They're there for everyone to see, well then there's no complaining.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, let's cross in the new South Wales camp.
Now Blues team manager Frank Pernisi joins us on the
go io True Blue Mike. Thanks for joining us, Frank
the night before the Big One origin. Have you found
out who was spying on you at Queensland training? I've
heard it was Big Gordy. Sorry, Frankie, No, it wasn't good.
(17:59):
I reckon it was amongst them.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Myself, I have to agree with Jackie Haney jaking.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That wouldn't surprise me. No, Frank. It's been a little
bit of an interrupted preparation, but we're hearing some good
news out of the Blues camp. Payton has has cleared
to play, and we just heard only minutes ago that
Stephen Crichton's been given the all clear. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Yeah, that's correct. He'll be named in our nineteen and
eight o'clock tonight when you have to name it. Twenty
four hours in advance. We did get exemption to have
Matt Burton potentially had Stephen Crichton not been fit to play,
but we're not going to be calling on that now,
so we expect Stephen to play tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, right, so you got him, so he might be
nineteenth man. Did he do the captain's run today?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So we're hearing remembers that he didn't do the didn't
even do the captain's run.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, that's correct, we didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
There was a light run anyway for the whole team,
but Credit just did a little bit on the side himself.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So he's just getting over a cork.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
He's made enormous progress over the last twenty four hours
and even the last few hours he's got a lot better.
So we think in twenty four hours he'll be close
to one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Francis James Hooper, you know it's origin time when the
courier Mark goes with the back page smash this grub
and a picture of Spencer and you how is that
received inside New South Wales camp? And we haven't heard
from Spencer this week? How do you think you'll go
tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Spencer will just plays normal game And honestly, it has
not been discussed whatsoever. I mean, he's just that type
of player. Won't worry him.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
If anything, it will spare him on. So I know
it's the least of our worries.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I think he'll just play his normal game off the bench.
He provides that much energy and spark and he'll just
play he's natural game that does each week.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey Frank, it's Paul Crawley here.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Mate.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
You were there last year under Madge.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Tell us the difference and what has been the biggest
change under Lourie and also with Craig there in camp
this year.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah, Paul, it's a good question. Look, it's different, but
it's not a good different or a bad different, and
they're just both different coaches. But what Laurie's done, he's
kept a lot of the things that Madgie introduced last year.
Obviously he's added his own little spice here and there,
and with Belly Ake's assistance, just little tweaks were required.
But I think the impressive part that everyone's been impressed
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with Lorry are his main management skills, the way he
handles the coaches, the staff and especially the players, and
the biggest singing. As I said, he's just taken on
so much we did last year and everyone's but really
grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Hey, Frank, you've been around some of the biggest superstars
ever to play our game and you've got Latreille. What
does l Trell bring to this Blue side and what's
something that you've learned from him?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Just?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
Confidence? Good, He's just got this order about him and
he's in a really good space at the moment. He's
physically looking fantastic and you know he's in for a
big game tomorrow night. He's just been great to be
around a player like him. He's got a lot of
confidence and self belief which rubs off on everyone and
you know, if he gets some good ball tomorrow night,
you know he's in for a terrific game.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Frank, you joked about Cameron Munster off the top and
the fact he might have been secretly spying on the Blues,
but you've had a lot to do with him over
the course of your time with the Melbourne Storm. What
insights have you given the New South Wales camp about
what they can expect.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
From Cameron tomorrow night? Because he is a noted big
game player.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
No, he is, Hoops has no doubt about it, and
I think about with Cameron. He sells in these type
of games. Most of the players, if not, you know,
the vast majority of the group playing for the Blues
tomorrow night have played with Cameron an Australian level and
they've played against him at Origin level.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And club level.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
So there's really not too much more to add, and
that belly Acle myself can add on what to expect
from Cameron Munster. You know, we just got to be
on guard. But the thing about he can't be just
worrying about one player. They've got a terrific spine and
a number of other players, so you know, we'll be
treating all the players in their spine equally.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Frank, going back to all the great players you've and
leaders that you've been around over the years. What about
Isaoo what sort of personality he comes across as so unassuming,
But what's he like within the group?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, exactly what you see, Crawls.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
He's just his temperament reminds me of Cameron Smith and
from one moment I'm not suggesting he's at Cameron Smith's
level at the moment, but he's just got a wonderful
temperament with the players and his ability to talk at
the right time and regroup the players when they needed
to be spoken to. And just his calmness under pressure
is going to be really important tomorrow night because we
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know what's coming ahead. It's massive up here and every
game at sun Corp is you know, with fifty thousand
Queenslanders and Queens are going to come out strong and
you need a leader like him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I mean, he did a wonderful job.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
With Jake to Boyvis last year who led our state fantastic.
Lee will a completely different leader to Jake but also
is effective. So now he's going to be a wonderful
player for us tomorrow night and a wonderful leader.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You're not wrong, Frank, it is a massive game tomorrow
night at Suncourt. Again, thank you very much for joining
us so close to the game. Go and fire up
those boys and get that win over the dirty Morons.
Thanks Bray, Thanks boys here he is, sorry Gordy for that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Watched tell you what I got to feel and Crichton
might and play.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I've got to agree with you. I've got I got
a feeling.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm telling you because his origin is a beast, right
and he limped in the camp right, So you've got
to watch all these little things because that's where you
get the advantage because he heard he's groin and when
you carry a groin and you go okay, So then
he's got another knock on the other side.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He's still in the state.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, but like then he's a leader and all that,
but then you put the state first, the real confidence ones,
I can't let these boys down. I mean there's part
of that in your process as well as part of it,
like the selfish part. I want to go out there
and play, but then you go, man if I let
these boys down, and if you don't do the captain's rung,
which is the lightest rung. It's the lightest and it's
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the one that you want to be involved in.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
There were a few things that stood out to me
there because we looked at each other, didn't we I
wish dog was sitting there. Origin. Yeah, for Origin, that
the captain's run is extremely important. Cool, Like, even though
it's just the captain's run, it's the last one before
you play. Obviously his experience he has been there and
done it before. You can kind of pass that. Then
when Frank said, we've named him in the nineteen because
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I said, is he cleared the play, said he's name
in the nineteen didn't quite him, we will name him
in the nineties, said that there's still monitoring and he
hasn't got the clear yet, or that this is a
tactic and they're not going to plan. He would have
just said mate, so good. He would have said, he's
really yep, he's sweet.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
He got through the captains Queensland and they've gone, they've.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Got they've got where's the spy.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Now again?
Speaker 6 (24:51):
If well, if he is out, so Campbell Graham goes
trade in and plays right center, Yes, because did he
say Burton's still in the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Has been told not to right, not to worry, So
I'm assuming that it will be Listen, he might still play.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Brightened but always in the past place We're we're.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Going to get to a break. But that was a
bit suspicious that that one there with Frankin will find
out in the next twenty four hours Stick Around Journals up. Next,
we head into Queensland camp with Marown's assistant coach, Josh Hanna.
Welcome to an l three sixty year rugby league from
every angle, Joman of the Great Gordon Tallis. It's bring
the Journal Australian Paul Crawley and James Hooper and his
Origin Eve and we have breaking news from the great
Bulldog Richie. Stephen Crichton has been cleared to play. So
good news for New South Wales and their fans he
will take the field tomorrow night. And good news for
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Queensland or not.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Ah well, it all depends if he's got any sort
of injury and didn't do the captains run. It's and
Stephen Crichton not one hundred percent, that's better for Queensland
than Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
At one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm happy with this.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You can't play Origin if you're not one hundred percent okay.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I don't think you would play Origin unless he feel
he could get through the game and at his best.
He's just about the most inspirational player of the game.
Like look what he did a few weeks ago again
in the second half against Canberra. That's what he's capable of.
He has been the biggest single factor in the Bulldogs
leading the premiership this year.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
He's a massive in.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It'd be devastating for New South Wales. As good a
player as Campbell Graham is to have had the preparation
that they have and then lose Stephen Crichton in the
final twenty four hours would be a cruel blow.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
So that's a big gin.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
He's a beast and a big game player. We've seen
that in Grand Finals, We've seen it at the Origin level.
He just gets it done. His defense is amazing and
his attack he's got some special He's got the X factor.
You know, he can create something out of nothing. He's
done it for Canterbury. He's done on all levels and
even at eighty ninety percent, I'm happy with him in
that team. Now, it's been forty eight hours since Galvin's
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camp decided he was going to the Bulldogs. What's the
hold up that though? Why hasn't he signed or officially
agreed to Turms? Do we know?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Is it going to be close or I think it's close.
I think it definitely happens this week. But for whatever reason,
I think maybe the agent likes a little bit of
power and control games, so that could be why the
handbrake's just been pulled slightly.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
But I think it will happen across.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, it's look how many clubs at this time of
the year have this sort of money sitting there just
waiting for someone to come along like Gust That had
only happened in the last week.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
So I'd imagine it takes a little bit time to plan.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think you shuffling at the decks a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Oh well, who knows.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Like if you're a cynic, which I am, you listen
to Guss's denials about this for months, and you look
at all the evidence that all along, going back to
last August, indicated that there was a love affair here,
that he wanted him at the Bulldogs, and it's almost
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like this has been manipulated to occur over a period
of time, And even recently Guss did say in one
of his podcasts that he didn't think that Stephen sorry
Lachlan Galvin could stay at the Tigers, and so you know,
and then we're led to believe this has all happened
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when the goalpost changed a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Really does that come down?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Did we come down to the last shower?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But is that good business if you're running a club
like the Dogs and you're keeping them off the scent.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well, Gordon, it is.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But he also has an obligation to everyone who watches
his programs and listens to what he says to at
least give him an indication of what the truth is,
and we see it here on this table.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Breath.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You're often put in a position where you have to
comment about players that you manage, and you don't sit
there and try and lead us astray. There may be
some things that you can't talk about God, but you
also have to give an honest insight into where you
stand as a commentator.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I think where the lions get blurred around us is
and this is what agitates and infuriates rival clubs. No
when they're all blowing up at the moment they've all
been at head office at Andrew Abdahen Peter Lany's that
he is highly paid as the face or one of
the faces of Channel nine, and then he's also highly
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paid as the general manager.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Of football of the Bulldogs.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And in his running commentary on lockey Galvin it's now
clear in the fullness of time that it doesn't appear
as though he's been transparent the entire time he's at
the Bowl. The flipper and the doucer and the slider
and everything else. At stages, he's got the outcome he wants.
It's the best result for the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He suggested last night that it was unfair that he
had to answer the cliff.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
It's unfair, then don't cop a million a year off
Channel nine. So if you don't want the money off
Channel nine, that's fine, But otherwise you are going to
have to sit on that panel and you are going
to have to at times answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What do we make of his explanation last night and
that going to tie with Chemis, it was pretty confrontational,
and Chemis he held his gloves up. What did you
guys think of it?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Chemist did his job? He for once.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Gus was he was he was put to the sword,
he was questioned.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I thought he looked nervous. I thought he looked.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Anxious about his responses, you know, like he can say
until he's blue in the face that this has all
happened in recent days since Galvin was given permission to
talk to other clubs. But I think the NRRUL, as
the governing body of our game, owe it to the
other clubs. You talk about the other clubs. I think
we have rules in place, and I'm not accusing Gus
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of doing the wrong thing here, but I think the
NR rel oh it to the clubs to do a
proper investigation into this and try and find out exactly
when the phone calls did start.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
They might be telling them the complete truth, but because
there is so much innuendo out there, the game owes
it to everyone to tell us what the truth was.
But we had that investigation a couple of years ago.
Ben Hunt, when there was accusations flying at the time,
just disappeared into the eth what's the use.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Of having a rule about what's the use of having
the rules? There's the rules of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think he's playing within the rules because you can
talk about players.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
You just can't according that.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You used to be able to talk, but you couldn't
sign the contract until November one.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Now you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Allowed to negotiating.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
There's no negotiations at all.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But don't they negotiating now, or.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Well they are now because that club's given them permission
to do.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
They're all negotiating all the time. We all know that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
So what's head office have the rules?
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It's a fair question.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
His head office scared of Gus because you go back
to last year and there was a stage where they
hid him with a breach notice for comments that he'd
made in the media and on television, and they're adamant
that they were going to stick to their guns. And
it was a twenty thousand dollars Fine. Well, in the end,
they're not scared.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They're not scared. They're actually trying to come up with
some sort of way of stopping what's happened over the
past few months from happening.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But it's hard because it's quite simple.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But how simple is it?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
This is how simple it is. Don't allow it like
who runs the game? Do the agents run the game?
Do the clubs run the game? No, they don't. The
NRL runs the game. The governing body runs the game.
If you sign a contract, this is how easy it is.
You sign a contract and you have thirty players in
your squad, and usually they sign off on those guys
by early rounds. Make them play out the season at
least if you know there's always going to be Shenanigan's
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in the off season and deals will be done. Let
that be the trade window, but for the duration of
the season.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Keep the players at the.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Unless you come up unless a club or an agent
can come up with extenuating circumstances that they did, and
the bar is set really, really high. It happens all
the time, goodon. So it's the biggest blood on the game,
and it has.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
To be the general behind a trade window. But the
RLPA are not Clinton.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who runs the status plate.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But they're in partnership now and there's the players have
a huge stay through the APLA. So just to get
something clear that they are behind it and they're pushing
for it. And going back to how do you stop
someone like Gus or even me, You know, people talk
about conflict of interests, and how do you stop the
likes of all the people we've got on our panels
who are involved in clubs in Channel and nine who
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are all involved in clubs and got jobs there, and
of having opinions on players and coaches, and where do you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Draw the line. You can't stop that. But going back
to the question that we just spoke about, if you stop.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Players willy nilly and clubs and clubs switching and changing
and getting out of a deal here and getting out
of it, it's very easy to stop.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Don't allow it, don't allow it until the off season.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Your answer is.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Twenty four hours before the State of Origin game and
the biggest story in rugby league and the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Story you have to leave the biggest story and you
have to talk about the biggest story State of Origin.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It's not at the moment.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's a nine en year old kid that's played about
thirty first grade games, so that's why we're talking about it.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Then they can change the narrow We've got.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
To change clubs for moving kids on too. So if
they make of course that, they've got to stay with
him as well.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And I think there may be you know, circumstances where
a club loses a stack of players through injury or
something personal has happened that is unavoidable. But in these
instances made if you made clubs stick to their roster,
then it becomes a battle of endurance, you know, survival
of the fittest.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
And it's a simple solution.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It cross on the flip side as well. Clubs tap players.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
On the shoulder and make you stop it both ways.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You stop it both ways, and you give them the
fans out there, they can make it a better world, mate,
They can they can.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Make no question, there's a better system than the mess
that it is at the moment. Because we've had DC,
we've had Dylan Brown, now it's Lachland Galvin. It's dominated
front and back pages for months.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To be disappointed parafans. It was a shot of a
para guy with Galvin on the back of a parent managers,
So how do.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They fix it there?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
But how do they fix it?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But tell me how would the speculation stop if there
was a transfer.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You'll never stop the speculation and you'll never talk stop
all the talk that goes on behind the scenes, as
you just said, But at least during the competition. If
you stop players transferring, this doesn't happen and finishes the
season at Westcott Tigers and at the end of the
season they come up with a plan to.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Get in there.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
If a player goes to a club and says that
he's been bullied.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well yeah, well then then it requires an investigation. But
don't don't you think.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So post is not that's not bullying.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I don't believe it is either. But it finds a
show of respect to his coach.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
On that I think you'll find that list of grievances
that the agent went into Riche's office with It's not
just about the little snapchat in the Instagram past. There's
a hell of a lot of detail and all of that,
and it would be ugly and dirty laundry head in
public if it did make its way into the courts.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's interesting all right. Now, Tracking back to Gould and
Chemist last night, worked colleagues, when Toe to Toe on air,
we all saw it, whether it was on the show
or Socials, all throughout the day.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I liked it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Apparently it went beyond are off.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
Yeah, well, I was watching it live.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
It felt like they were sort of forced into an
ad break because it looked as it was starting to
get a little bit overly heated.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
And then when it did cut to the ad break.
Talking to people who were there today, they certainly suggested
that Guss wasn't overly happy. He felt as though, I
think there might have been a couple of exclusives used,
and he felt as though his integrity had been questioned.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So it continued when when they kept.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Going after after the after the cut to an ad break,
it definitely there was definitely further words exchange.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You think we'll see Chamis on the panel anytime soon.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Well, he've got rissold last week at the behest of
eyeser at.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
They stick by him because I thought he.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Did his job. Yeah, I thought he did too. I
mean it's all you know, it's very rare that Gus
gets questioned about his actions and his comments. And I
love the fact that right or wrong, Chemis didn't back
down like he backed himself. Continue to take him on.
And Gus is an intimidating guy, not only because he's
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again one of the brightest minds in our game, but
he's one of the most experienced, he's one of the
most powerful. He's one of the most intimidating. And Chamis
just went went went for it and didn't take it
backward step. And you've got to respect that, you know,
not many guys have got the you know what to
do that, And I thought Mick did a good job.
Now you've got a little bit of a beef with
the three hundred less. Yeah, well that Galvin has taken
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to go to the dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Look, it could again, it could be all above board,
but there are clubs out there who rightfully question, how
do a guy that was offered a million dollars a
season has now accepted three hundred thousand dollars less a season,
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and it's just it's a stain on the salary cap
that we don't have any transparency when it comes to
third parties, when it comes to contracts.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
We had an incident at.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
The Bulldogs a few years ago where Buzz reported was
it two years ago now with Tino when they were
following Tino and.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Arthur Lorndy had come.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Out publicly and suggested that he was willing, you know,
he wanted to make the bill a big statement at
the Bulldogs and he was willing to let players invest
in their pubs and guarantee the money. And of course
the NRL didn't allow that, didn't allow that at the time.
But then you see players going to the Bulldogs and again,
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in no way are we suggesting they are doing the
wrong thing. But you have player like Leo Thompson in
recent times who the Canberra Raiders offered eight hundred thousand
dollars a season and he goes there for massive unders
and then now Lachland Galvin goes there for massive unders.
And the salary cap is the integrity behind what's supposed
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to make it a fair and level, a valid.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Points so Ben Hunt was on a million dollars what
six hundred of Brisbane Now they say Adam renders all
as he wants is three hundred. It's actually unfair on
the sides down the bottom that are struggling to sign
these guys. You got the West Tigers offer a million
dollars over and step fanho and they get out played
by the bigger clubs. I didn't get off the bat.
(14:52):
I've got a different take on this.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think it says more about the clubs they're leaving
than the lines that they're going to and from.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
My experience to get all that, but it's still under this.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Let me just explain. So if I myself would take
one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars less to go
to a club to win a premiership, it was one
of the apart from having kids, best feeling in my life.
There is no better feeling. And when you're a player
like Lachlan Galvin who goes into the Bulldog system for
two to three hundred thousand dollars less, I don't even
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know what the third parties are. He's got fifteen years
in our game, He's only going to be His value
is going to go up. He's going to make millions
of dollars over that time, and he's going to be
financially secure. And there are only limited premiership windows at
certain clubs at certain times, and the Bulldogs are in
one right now. And if you said to me, if
I was in his position and he was my client,
I'd be pushing him to the Bulldogs and I'd say, mate,
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go there. You're going to get developed, you'll become a
better player. By the time you leave, your value is
going to go up every year, and you've got a
chance of winning a premiership. And to take two hundred
thousand dollars less two hundred fifty thousand dollars less right
now for longevity and your value in the game and
the position you're in right now, that's a decision.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
You're one hundred percent right, right, and it goes both ways.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You will also see if we had transparency there, and
they do it around the world and the NBA and
that you can call up any player and you know
what to a cent, what they get. And at least
if we had that transparency here, we could see the
good job that the good clubs are doing, and they're
not so good job that the other clubs may be doing.
But at least it's there for the fans that you
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want if they follow your game, it's there for them
to see.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But it's still hard for the fans to swallow when
everybody else that's gone to the dogs and cry and
then kick out. I've gone for more money, but they
went they left the premiership side, so they go that.
So they're winning premierships. They've left the premiership winning side,
winning trophies to go play for more money.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's really hard for some fans to swallow.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
You make a great point Crawls in that the overseas sports,
so Major League Baseball, the NBA, the NFL, you can
look up a player and it is all black and white.
They're completely transparent. You know exactly how much money each
player on. That is on the only thing I would
be curious about if they did go down that road
in rugby league. Firstly, I think the RPA would block it.
(17:08):
I don't think they'd allow it. That's a position that
they've taken previously. But third parties do You then also
have to publish.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's well almost the most important thing because when you
see these deals, you don't know the third parties that
are behind them. And I think that again, if if
clubs are good enough to have these, you know, legitimate
third party deals to prop up, you know, at least if.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
They're there for everyone to see, well then there's no complaining.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, let's cross in the new South Wales camp.
Now Blues team manager Frank Pernisi joins us on the
go io True Blue Mike. Thanks for joining us, Frank
the night before the Big One origin. Have you found
out who was spying on you at Queensland training? I've
heard it was Big Gordy. Sorry, Frankie, No, it wasn't good.
(17:59):
I reckon it was amongst them.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Myself, I have to agree with Jackie Haney jaking.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That wouldn't surprise me. No, Frank. It's been a little
bit of an interrupted preparation, but we're hearing some good
news out of the Blues camp. Payton has has cleared
to play, and we just heard only minutes ago that
Stephen Crichton's been given the all clear. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Yeah, that's correct. He'll be named in our nineteen and
eight o'clock tonight when you have to name it. Twenty
four hours in advance. We did get exemption to have
Matt Burton potentially had Stephen Crichton not been fit to play,
but we're not going to be calling on that now,
so we expect Stephen to play tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, right, so you got him, so he might be
nineteenth man. Did he do the captain's run today?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So we're hearing remembers that he didn't do the didn't
even do the captain's run.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
No, that's correct, we didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
There was a light run anyway for the whole team,
but Credit just did a little bit on the side himself.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So he's just getting over a cork.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
He's made enormous progress over the last twenty four hours
and even the last few hours he's got a lot better.
So we think in twenty four hours he'll be close
to one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Francis James Hooper, you know it's origin time when the
courier Mark goes with the back page smash this grub
and a picture of Spencer and you how is that
received inside New South Wales camp? And we haven't heard
from Spencer this week? How do you think you'll go
tomorrow night?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Spencer will just plays normal game And honestly, it has
not been discussed whatsoever. I mean, he's just that type
of player. Won't worry him.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
If anything, it will spare him on. So I know
it's the least of our worries.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I think he'll just play his normal game off the bench.
He provides that much energy and spark and he'll just
play he's natural game that does each week.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Hey Frank, it's Paul Crawley here.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Mate.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
You were there last year under Madge.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Tell us the difference and what has been the biggest
change under Lourie and also with Craig there in camp
this year.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah, Paul, it's a good question. Look, it's different, but
it's not a good different or a bad different, and
they're just both different coaches. But what Laurie's done, he's
kept a lot of the things that Madgie introduced last year.
Obviously he's added his own little spice here and there,
and with Belly Ake's assistance, just little tweaks were required.
But I think the impressive part that everyone's been impressed
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with Lorry are his main management skills, the way he
handles the coaches, the staff and especially the players, and
the biggest singing. As I said, he's just taken on
so much we did last year and everyone's but really
grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Hey, Frank, you've been around some of the biggest superstars
ever to play our game and you've got Latreille. What
does l Trell bring to this Blue side and what's
something that you've learned from him?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Just?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
Confidence? Good, He's just got this order about him and
he's in a really good space at the moment. He's
physically looking fantastic and you know he's in for a
big game tomorrow night. He's just been great to be
around a player like him. He's got a lot of
confidence and self belief which rubs off on everyone and
you know, if he gets some good ball tomorrow night,
you know he's in for a terrific game.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Frank, you joked about Cameron Munster off the top and
the fact he might have been secretly spying on the Blues,
but you've had a lot to do with him over
the course of your time with the Melbourne Storm. What
insights have you given the New South Wales camp about
what they can expect.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
From Cameron tomorrow night? Because he is a noted big
game player.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
No, he is, Hoops has no doubt about it, and
I think about with Cameron. He sells in these type
of games. Most of the players, if not, you know,
the vast majority of the group playing for the Blues
tomorrow night have played with Cameron an Australian level and
they've played against him at Origin level.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And club level.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
So there's really not too much more to add, and
that belly Acle myself can add on what to expect
from Cameron Munster. You know, we just got to be
on guard. But the thing about he can't be just
worrying about one player. They've got a terrific spine and
a number of other players, so you know, we'll be
treating all the players in their spine equally.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Frank, going back to all the great players you've and
leaders that you've been around over the years. What about
Isaoo what sort of personality he comes across as so unassuming,
But what's he like within the group?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, exactly what you see, Crawls.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
He's just his temperament reminds me of Cameron Smith and
from one moment I'm not suggesting he's at Cameron Smith's
level at the moment, but he's just got a wonderful
temperament with the players and his ability to talk at
the right time and regroup the players when they needed
to be spoken to. And just his calmness under pressure
is going to be really important tomorrow night because we
(22:29):
know what's coming ahead. It's massive up here and every
game at sun Corp is you know, with fifty thousand
Queenslanders and Queens are going to come out strong and
you need a leader like him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I mean, he did a wonderful job.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
With Jake to Boyvis last year who led our state fantastic.
Lee will a completely different leader to Jake but also
is effective. So now he's going to be a wonderful
player for us tomorrow night and a wonderful leader.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You're not wrong, Frank, it is a massive game tomorrow
night at Suncourt. Again, thank you very much for joining
us so close to the game. Go and fire up
those boys and get that win over the dirty Morons.
Thanks Bray, Thanks boys here he is, sorry Gordy for that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Watched tell you what I got to feel and Crichton
might and play.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I've got to agree with you. I've got I got
a feeling.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm telling you because his origin is a beast, right
and he limped in the camp right, So you've got
to watch all these little things because that's where you
get the advantage because he heard he's groin and when
you carry a groin and you go okay, So then
he's got another knock on the other side.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He's still in the state.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, but like then he's a leader and all that,
but then you put the state first, the real confidence ones,
I can't let these boys down. I mean there's part
of that in your process as well as part of it,
like the selfish part. I want to go out there
and play, but then you go, man if I let
these boys down, and if you don't do the captain's rung,
which is the lightest rung. It's the lightest and it's
(23:59):
the one that you want to be involved in.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
There were a few things that stood out to me
there because we looked at each other, didn't we I
wish dog was sitting there. Origin. Yeah, for Origin, that
the captain's run is extremely important. Cool, Like, even though
it's just the captain's run, it's the last one before
you play. Obviously his experience he has been there and
done it before. You can kind of pass that. Then
when Frank said, we've named him in the nineteen because
(24:22):
I said, is he cleared the play, said he's name
in the nineteen didn't quite him, we will name him
in the nineties, said that there's still monitoring and he
hasn't got the clear yet, or that this is a
tactic and they're not going to plan. He would have
just said mate, so good. He would have said, he's
really yep, he's sweet.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
He got through the captains Queensland and they've gone, they've.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Got they've got where's the spy.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Now again?
Speaker 6 (24:51):
If well, if he is out, so Campbell Graham goes
trade in and plays right center, Yes, because did he
say Burton's still in the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Has been told not to right, not to worry, So
I'm assuming that it will be Listen, he might still play.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Brightened but always in the past place We're we're.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Going to get to a break. But that was a
bit suspicious that that one there with Frankin will find
out in the next twenty four hours Stick Around Journals up. Next,
we head into Queensland camp with Marown's assistant coach, Josh Hanna.
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