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April 16, 2025 77 mins

In this episode, Patrick sits down with Heather Daugherty to discuss her journey in the ministry, her experience working with college students, and the challenges she has faced as a female pastor. Heather also shares insights from her background in the Church of the Nazarene, her forthcoming ordination in the Episcopal Church, and the importance of the church as a multi-generational community. They also share about the significance of proximity in fostering empathy, the role of the church in modern society, and more. 

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