Patriots Pregame Show 10/19: Patriots vs. Titans Preview

Tune-in as we preview the Patriots Week 7 matchup with the Tennessee Titans, giving our keys to the game, matchups to watch, and more! We go behind enemy lines with Turron Davenport, Titans ESPN reporter, to see the game from the Titans perspective.

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There he is, you'll see him in just the second.
The head coach of the New England Patriots, Mike Rabel,
back at Nissan Stadium for the first time after being
fired by the Titans last year and now he has
since led the New England team to the top of
the AFC East. Thanks for checking in with us here
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crew is here, Paul Parrillo, Mike do So, there you

(01:07):
see the coach coming into the stadium. Well, I think
it makes it more dramatic. It needs some villain music
as well.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
He's not a villain. He's our hero.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
That's true. That's true. He's a hero for us. Of course,
it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Little like Reservoir Dogs, you know, little cameo for Stacy James.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
He got the slow motion walk into its very intimidate.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
I like that one. As you all know, probably it's
week seven of the NFL season. Like we said, the
Patriots rolling at this point three under three wins in
a row. I was gonna say undefeated on the road.
Don't undefeated as well. But we talked there's so many
storylines that we can follow with this one. Of course
we mentioned Mike Vrabee returning to the Titans arena, but
also Brian Callahan earlier this week getting fired from the

(01:45):
Titans one after a one and five season for him.
So plenty to talk about, but of course I think
we should start with Rabele's return.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
I had the opportunity for started working here about three
weeks into my tenure.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
In the summer.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
They said, hey, dude, you get to go to joint
practices down there in Tennessee. So it was you know,
I was a little tough for you know, I grew
up a Patriots fan. I grew up love him, watching
Mike Frabele. There we went down, and you know, as
the story goes, I was a little bit taken with
Derrick Henry briefly there.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
But but otherwise it was embarrassing.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
But otherwise it's it's it's great to have Rabel back
on this side of things. And uh, you know, he
downplayed it this week, not making this out to be
we're not gonna go win one for the Gipper. Uh
But I think despite what everybody's saying, everybody knows that
it didn't end great there, and Mike Frabel is not
the kind of guy to forget.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
So I think his team, no matter what he says,
is going to go out there and play hard for
him and try to earn him a victory.

Speaker 8 (02:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I'm with Mike all the way on this, and I
love the way he phrased it, you know, about the
interesting and important uh you know part of it. But yeah,
he followed up I think later in the week with
the you know, you know, we're not gonna go out
and win it for the Gipper, But you know, inside,
I know it means a lot to him. I know
he didn't like the way things ended, you know, in Tennessee. Now,

(03:00):
if he had some truth serum, he probably would admit that,
you know, it's a blessing in disguise form because the
you know, the dysfunction that we're seeing in Nashville is
hard to ignore. And Mike right now looks like he's
got the young quarterback and he's got a team that's
on the rebuilding, you know, the rebuilding mode that looks

(03:20):
like it's pointed in the right direction. So it may
not have been the way he wanted it, but I
think it worked out for him, you know, for the best.
And if I think if he looked in the mirror
and sort of went back over what's happened the last
two years since he got fired two years ago to now,
it's kind of worked out for him. Landed on his feet. Yeah,

(03:41):
he sure has.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
And I mean now you see the Patriots team kind
of coming together, and I think that's the biggest, you
know question today is can this team continue to progress?
They certainly have some I don't want to call him
weaknesses yet, but they just have some areas of their game,
the running game, a little bit of the passing defense
that haven't quite you know, lived up to or I
don't want to say expectations, but haven't quite rounded out
in the ways that the offensive passing game in the

(04:03):
run defense had.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
So, you know, to get to this.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Point and be able to have a game where you
can hopefully continue to build on those things and continue
buildings that I think everybody sees right now, Patriots have
an opportunity here, But I don't think it's going to
be easy. You know, we see Cincinnati winning a big
game on Thursday night. You know, you can look at
the schedule and then look at records and start adding wins,
but I think there are a lot of tough games
coming up and they have to focus one game in
a week. This is still a team that, as we

(04:26):
said kind of in the relegation down in the fourth
place schedule, continue to show you're the best of these teams.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
And today's just you know, a huge opportunity with a team.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
A little bit in disarray, are they going to come
out and play really hard for you know, for the
new interim head coach, we'll see sometimes there is a bump,
but I'm a little bit.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm not so sure we'll see it today. So I
do think that you'll see a bump for Tennessee. I
just don't know if it'll be enough for them to
be able to win the game because of the shortcomings
on offense, especially you know we're talking about. Can I
just give you a quick little know you? I drive
you guys crazy with with my red zone, my red
zone stuff. So I'm watching the London game a little

(05:06):
bit right, and so who's the referee? But none other
than Adrian Hill? And I know everybody's like, who who?

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Know?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Everybody knows who Adrian Hill is because we had a
game last week that we got to know Adrian Hill
up close and personal. And what was one of the
things that I sort of criticized. He doesn't even know
which way to turn to announce the penalty and what
does he do as we're just just starting off our
pregame show here he turns the wrong way to announce
a penalty in the Jacksonville Rams game. We need a
sponsor for you because so anyway.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
He is in England, so you know, something that's perfect
that's perfect.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
So I do have some numbers that are our producer
of our PUOT Patriots Unfiltered on TV program Don Maxine
gave us during the course of the week about the
whole new coach bump, you know, the fire the fired
head coach bump that you get. And of course I'm
not gonna be able to find it now.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
The numbers are really really good for that team get
that gets a that that you know, moves on. And
so this is thirty eight teams that fired their coach
during the regular season since two thousand and three. This
is a pretty good sample size. Those teams have gone
seventeen and twenty one straight up and twenty two and
sixteen against the spread. Now, for some context, with the

(06:30):
numbers at forty four point seven percent straight up win
rate doesn't really seem like it's that great. But when
you consider that those teams had a winning percentage of
twenty eight percent leading into that, to go from twenty
eight percent to winning forty four points seven percent of
the time is a significant bump. So the new coach thing,

(06:50):
the bump is real. I just don't know when you're
talking about offensively, especially for Tennessee. We're looking at thirty thirty, first,
thirty second in virtually every category across the board. Total offense,
there are downs, sacks allowed, passing, rushing, like they're they're
not good in anything offensively. I know the Patriots defense

(07:12):
has had some struggles, Mike, but this is an offense
they really should should get fat on.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
They should and I like to see them just jump early.
Don't let Tennessee come out and play fast and loose.
I think that, I mean, we're trying to discuss this week,
what is the bump? Is it that you know, maybe
a disciplinarian is gone and players just feel like, let's
just go out there and let it rip and see it.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Sometimes you know, maybe people look at the look in
the mirror and say, we just got a coach fired,
and you know, maybe am I doing everything I can here?
You know, and they're yeah, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
I would say some of the stories that you've heard
coming out of Tennessee too, with you know, Jeffrey Simmons
having to pull guys aside and say, you know, this
isn't how we practice, and you know, those to me
are the are the concerning things.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
So you know, when you.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
See Antonio Pierce out in Vegas and you know, he
takes over and they're smoking cigars and it's kind of
cut loose. I just think if you get off to
a fast start and really put the pressure on them
to have to execute, because if they start to have
signs of life and they start to have a little
fun and they're saying, hey, you know we're under this
new coach, we're playing a little bit better. You know,
they can start to get some confidence. Don't let it
get to that point. Come out, start fast, especially on

(08:11):
the defensive side of the ball. It's something we've talked about,
the coaches have talked about. They just haven't really been
able to start fast on defense. I think it will
be huge today.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Well, you teeed it up perfectly because we are now
going to get into the keys of the game.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
You've waited all week for the whole teams in the
locker room right now just listening to this, waiting to
hear what you're going to say.

Speaker 9 (08:31):
Here are this week's keys to the game.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
All right, Paul, you want to go for it.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So I loved the quote that Mike Rabel had about
the important and interesting. So my mind's pretty simple. It's
focus on the important and forget about the interesting. And
it's obviously with regard to Mike going back to Nashville
and you know, appearing in the stadium that he wants
coached the Titans in for whatever it was, what six years, uh,

(09:00):
you know, so I think it means something to him.
I think it means something to a lot of other
members of that staff that can't that got uh you know,
we're part of vrabel staff in Tennessee. They were all
let go. There's some players as well, Harold Landry, Jack
Gibbons whom I missing, Roberts playing for a cup of coffee.
So I mean, I think it it matters. It matters

(09:23):
to them. But you don't want to get caught up
in that game where you know, you know, we have
revenge on our mind, and focus on the important and
that's executing your game plan, you know, being disciplined, taking
care of the football, and doing the kinds of things
that they've been able to do on this three game
winning streak and continuing that way. And if you get
in the situation, maybe in the second half with the

(09:44):
with the comfortable lead, and you want to have some fun,
that's the time to do it. But for the for
the the outset of this game, focus on the important Yeah.
I like it.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (09:52):
I think that's been the message all week. I mean
Vabele themselves said it, uh for me and I Paul
mentioned the stats. I mean the Tennessee run defense twenty eighth,
in attempts twenty fifth and yards thirty second and tds
twentyeighth yards per attempt. It's an opportunity to get your
run game jump started.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Now.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
I don't think we're going to sit here in the
post game and if they have a good rushing game,
like that's it.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
They figured it out. But I think they need to
take a first step. And if that is against the
run defense that maybe isn't quite that great. Now.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
They still have Jeffrey Simmons still going to be a challenge,
getting around him, getting him blocked.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
He's probably going.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
To blow up his fair share of plays.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
But at least jump start that run game today. I
think that's the thing. Drake May is not going to
be able to do what he's done the last couple
of weeks all by himself for the last ten games
of the season, put this team on his back.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
It to be really hard.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
He's going to need some kind of complimentary run game,
So ramondre Stevenson, you know, get him involved early, try
to find a way to get this run game going
a little bit and just something to build off of.
I'm not going to tell you, oh, the run game
has arrived or anything like that, but if they can
just have a solid day on the ground, maybe be
able to run the clock out at the end, you know,
just shorten the game once you get that lead in

(10:55):
the second half. I think will be huge key today
and something they can really build off of that they
need to going forward.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
And we've emphasized that over the last few weeks and
mine ties right into yours. Really tighten your grip for
the Patriots. I mentioned off of the beginning of the
show the fact that they are at top of the
AFC East and I think that is a mileso worth noting,
and Drake May is obviously a huge part of it.
But this week is about tightening up everything that they can,
making sure that they have as well rounded of a
game as they can, and that, like you mentioned, it

(11:22):
comes down to the run game. How are you able
to get points on the ground, especially when you're facing
a team this is think of this as a practice.
It's an opportunity to get reps in in real time
to see if your run defense can lock down and
you know your running game also running game and run defense.
Really yeah, but overall, just tighten up every part of
the game for right.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
I mean I piggyback on that of saying, you know that,
like I mentioned at the top, the pass defense hasn't
been great.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Now they are going to be shorthanded today without Calvin Ridley,
their best you.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Know, receiving threat. We all know who he is. So again,
no excuses today. Don't let these guys have any sign
of life. Clamp them down, make them work for everything.
Put some pressure on cam Ward, you know, with your
effective front seven, and just to be great to see
the whole team kind of come together and saw some
of those weaknesses. I don't know if they've solved them,
but at least show we're making progress in them. And
then as you get into games, you know, coming up

(12:10):
next week, you got Cleveland, that's a really really good defense.
You're not going to be able to drop back forty
to fifty times against that defense and win the game.
So you can find a little bit of the run game,
find a little bit of life in the past, defense early.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
I think it would be really good to build off
of going forward.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, you should make a team that's ranked thirty whatever
and a number of categories look like that. Yeah, that's
what the other teams have been doing. You want to
see the same kind of thing. Yep.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Overall, we talked about them being three undefeated on the
road at this point in the season. From what you
two have seen, what do you think has played the
biggest factor in that fact in?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
I mean just kind of sound football.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
I mean, you know, I mean it's not perfect, but
when it came down to the gotta have it moments,
they've made plays on both sides.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Turnover and they don't turn the ball. They haven't turned
it over on the road, you know, and I don't
I don't know if it's technically zero. I mean, I
go back, they didn't turn it over or last week
they didn't turn it over against Miami, Right, Yeah, who's
the other game Buffalo they had. They had a turnover
in that game, So they they've you know, three games,
I think they have one turnover. I mean, that's a

(13:12):
good formula to win.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, that Buffalo one's the only one. And I mean,
really that's.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
Just the you know, the home game with five with
Pittsburgh and then one against Vegas. Those those are those
are all the three games you've had turnovers, and so
playing clean is huge key to it. But I give
them a lot of you know, just a tip of
the cap because I know, win in Miami, to win
in Buffalo, no matter what the teams kind of look like, generally,
those are tough games and so they were able to
pull those out.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Hopefully that continues the season progressive.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
All right, So we talk about the interim, the firing
of the head coach in Tennessee. So I'm just losing
my words. How do you too think this will affect
the We talked about we don't know what kind of
team we're going to get today, but how do you
think it could affect them?

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Yeah, I mean that's what we've been kind of debating
all week and this, you know, the statistics are kind
of coming to light now now that the teams do
generally get a bump and it's but you know, it's
still a losing record, but it seems like they play
better after that, and you know, we again, we could
get into the causes.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
You're not sure why.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I just think you got to take that hope away
right away and try to come out and show, you
know that they're going to be up against it and
if they want to win this game, they're going to
have to execute, you know, in the margins, in the details,
and it's not going to be Hey, let's just go
back there, cut it loose, throw the ball around.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
We're going to win a game.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I would I mean, just looking at the cliches that
you would sort of lean on, you know, with you
get an interim coach stepping in who has some experience.
Mike McCoy was the Chargers coach for a while, so
you know, he has some experience in the league. You
have a rookie quarterback. Let's try to make it, you know,
a little bit easier for him. I think he's been
really good at times. He just has no protection and

(14:46):
he has no support around him. So instead of asking
him to carry the offense, maybe Mike McCoy says, we're
going to run the ball a little bit with Tony
Pollard and maybe a little bit with spears. You know,
in some of those situations, you know, lean on on
the tight end, some easy throws, some maybe some play
action rollouts, to use woods athleticism for him and try

(15:07):
to shorten the game a little bit and do things
that way. I mean again, all cliches, nothing, nothing outside
of the box. That that's how I would expect Mike
McCoy to try to look at it. He's going to
look at those numbers that Mike and I have talked
about for the first fifteen minutes of the show and say,
how do we how do we work around this. Well,
let's keep them out of those situations and let's let's

(15:27):
not allow him to get sacked twenty five times. He
leads the league, I believe in you know that that
they lead the league in sacks allowed. You can't win
that way, not with the not with a rookie quarterback.
You've got to make things a little bit easier for him.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
And obviously that should work to the Patriots benefit. The
rookie cam Ward him, you know, not having that protection.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah, no, take him off early. You know, you just
can't let those guys get comfortable.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
And that's why you know mil William's sick last week, Well,
he's fully healthy. Him and Barmore just wrecking balls in
the middle. Those guys are big keys today.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
All right, well, we are going to go behind enemy lines.
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Welcome in.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
Hey, well, I appreciate that welcome. I come in peace,
though I'm not a hanemy.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
We're sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Figure friends joking.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
I'm joking.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
Hey, Taterron, Just to kick it off, you know, what's
the mood been around there this week with the coaching change,
and how do you feel like the team's kind of
rallying around the change?

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (16:36):
I think when you look at any time you have
sudden change like that and you have an interim coach
coming in, it's going to develop a spark and you're
going to have you know, players excited about it.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
And I think the great thing that you look at
this you're talking to a mining hooker. He was like,
you know, I hate to see Brian callahan go. They
got rid of the coach and if explictive doesn't change,
they're going to get rid of players. Next. Put the organization,
you know, on notice, the staff and the players tron.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
What are your what are your thoughts on Kim Ward.
I know he gets sacked a lot, and that's something
that happens to a lot of rookie quarterbacks. But you know,
from a little we've seen here, you know, highlights wise,
we've seen some playmaking ability as well. What have your
your thoughts been on him as he's working through his
rookie year.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
Yeah, there's tremendous playmaking ability with Cam where you look
at his first touchdown, you know, rolling to his right
and thrown across his body to the opposite side to
the left and al Ia Manor had to touchdown catch.
You know, those are the things that he brings. It's
just the main thing for him is just staying on schedule,
getting the mechanics and footwork to be right in sync
with the route progressions and those things. And that's the

(17:45):
work in progress for him. It's not a matter of
understanding offenses or defenses or anything like that. It's also
with him just being able to you know, believe what
he sees right and in the NFL, open is like
you standing next to me, as opposed to you know,
in the ACC and in college football where it's like

(18:06):
guys are wide open. So that's the main thing. Just
being able to not process, I don't want to say process,
but being able to work through things and believe what
he's saying and let it.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Rip toronto the other side of the ball. Jeffrey Simmons
and I saw that Tondre Sweat was taking off of
ir as well. If you know, they've been a force
generally speaking. But how much of a problem do you
think that will be for Derike May today despite the
success that he's been having all season.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
Man, I will say this, I don't know that there's
a D tackle playing better than Jeffrey Simmons right now.
And he's not only playing de tackle, they move him
across the formation. And it's funny because I talked to
Savandre Sweat leading up to this game and I'm like, hey, man,
how excited are you to be coming back? And He's like, yo,
Jeffrey Simmons is balling, And that means I got plenty

(18:52):
of one on one coming out with the big fella.
He's going to use that bull rush and try to
get in there. But I think when you look at Simmons,
you know, if he's not getting to the quarterback, he's
impacting and trying to flush him out, and they're going
to have to have like a more of a contained
pass rush. If you remember last year, Drake May was
able to find some running lanes to get loose and
he had almost one hundred yards Russian. So they have

(19:13):
to make sure that they defend him correctly with discipline,
and Jeffery Simmons is a big part of that collapsing
the pot the pocket from the interior.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
Outside of Sweat and Simmons, who on defense do you
feel like is going to need to play a key
role today going up against Drake May and this offense.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Oh, Lugarious sneed for sure he has to play the
best out of everybody because you look at Stefan Diggs
like he's a huge factor in their passing game. So
this is one of those weeks where I'm pretty sure
they have cat covers. You know, he's going to be
traveling with him, and that's that's what you have to
have because I don't think it's a fair matchup with
he against anyone else in the secondary. So I'm going

(19:51):
I'm going to la Jarious.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Need so Toaran, what would the We talk a lot
about that, you know, when you get that fire coach,
you get the the little bump. What would have to
happen today for Tennessee to you know, I mean that
if they're a touchdown underdog at home, what would have
to happen for them to pull off an upset?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Oh man, Well, you know it's just Jesus is going
to have to deliver. That's pretty much what has to happen.
I can't see any other way that they win this game.
So seriously, I really is going to come down to, like,
if they could find somewhere to get a turnover or
some type of sudden change, that's the only way that
they'll be able to win. Because this Patriots team, they're

(20:30):
pretty solid. It could take a running ball. You got Digs,
you got Drake Mee playing well defensively. You know, Christian
Gonzales remains one of the best corners you know when
he's healthy. You got Christian Barmore, Harold Landry. There's just
too much. I don't see them winning at all.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, it sounds like you're not You're not on enemy lines.
But before you go, what is your prediction for this one?

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Yeah, well, you know I'm not on enemy lines.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
I'm speaking me careful.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
My prediction. I predicted twenty eight to seven.

Speaker 12 (21:02):
Rather okay, Patriots, Oh dare you?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Well?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Thank you so much for your insight. Enjoy the game
for sure, appreciate you, Take care.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Ern Tron Davenport moving up in the power rank space.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, no, he's good favorite so far.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
I gotta get it back. Well, it seems like they're
playing Tennessee every year.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
But right, you know, I think he highlights a really
important thing, Paul. It you know, feeds into what you said,
and it's just that's an easy way for the Patriots
to kind of turn the ball over. I mean they
haven't done it on the road, come out kind of
flat fumble, they get it, you know, an easy three,
maybe an easy seven, something like that.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Like, just really have to avoid that.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I think it's a huge key, easiest way to
change this game's dynamic quick turnovers.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Absolutely all right, we got calls coming in as usual.
Let's see what Patty and I go on has to say. Hi, Patty.

Speaker 13 (21:56):
Hey, good morning everyone.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
How you doingod morning, Patty.

Speaker 13 (22:00):
So I know this is going to sound really corny,
as I know most of my calls do, according to
Travis and West Virginia. But I was at the training
camp practice against the against the Commanders where Rabel jumped
in the pile and like, you know, the team kind
of saw that he has their back, and I think
the team returns a favor today. I don't think there's

(22:21):
any way the Patriots walk out here with a lots
I'm predicting a big win. I'm going thirty one to twelve.
That's all I got. Let's make it happen.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Guys, here you go.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
On twelve.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
I mean, talking to some of the players in the
locker room this week, I just there's definitely good vibes
with this team right now. It seems like everybody's kind
of bought in, and every time you go into the
locker room, there's good energy.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Guys are talking a lot of inner mingling between the
different position groups.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
Morgan Moses is holding core teasing guys, and you know,
it's just I feel like this team has bought into
what Mike Frabel's selling, and you know, the win streak
both reinforces it, but also is I think an example
of how it is working. And you're seeing these guys
that even they don't get off to the great star
or they have, you know, some bad penalties or things
don't go their way, they're finding ways to still make

(23:08):
plays and stay focused. And I think that's, you know,
just a tribute to the culture he's starting to build here.
And admittedly we're still very early in this process. Yeah,
but so far, so good with what he's building here.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
On the opposite end of the spectrum, we got to
email the opposite end of what Patty just said from
David May, and he actually said, I'm a little nervous
about this one for some reason. It just feels like
one of those games we blow into dramatic fashion, which
I don't think the team has done that, but with
interim head coach coach, it looks really windy and we
have no run game and an opposing QB that looks
like Drake last year. I hope I'm wrong, But do

(23:40):
you guys have any of the same concerns.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
I mean, personally, I just think it's a little strange
being in a game where it's like you really should
win this one.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
It feels like it's been a while. Wood.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
You know, it's right, and that's why you're searching for
what the things could be that that will derail this
Patriots team, because let's face it, they played really well
over the last three weeks and that it's just a
little bit of a strange position. I think the old teams, Paul,
you were used to plenty of times where it's like,
all right, we just need to check this box, stay healthy,
and get out of there. It's a weird position for
a team that's coming off back to back for win seasons,

(24:11):
and it's someone come out of nowhere with how these
two seasons have gone for these respected. Yeah, I don't
really have any of those concerns for this game. The
only I mean, listen, it's the NFL, and we obviously
know all the cliches that anything can happen, and if
you want to get sloppy with the football and turn
it over, you can lose to anybody. I just don't

(24:32):
see straight up the Patriots having a lot of problems
with this offense today. So I don't see any ways
that Tennessee can score, say more than I don't know seventeen.
You know, I think they're gonna be hard pressed to
do that. And as long as the Patriots, you know,
the run defense has been really stout all year. So

(24:53):
I can't imagine like.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Last year when they went down to Nashville backup quarterback
with Mason Rudolph and they just ran it down their throat.
I can't imagine that happening. I think the run defense
is in a much better spot. This is a today thing.
I'm not telling you that this is the way it's
going to be the rest of the year. I think
we're kind of getting a little ahead of ourselves with
how how much progress the team is made. But for

(25:17):
this particular game against this particular opponent, there's only two
things that slightly bothered me, and that's the third straight
road game and the whole interim coach thing. Yeah that's it. Yeah,
that's all I can I can give you for Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
Yeah, I mean, I would only add on to that
if it just feels like there's probably going to be
a turnover today, Like nobody goes one turnover on the road.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
For that many games. It's just it's just law of averages.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
It feels like there's probably going to be stupid diversity today.
I just hope it's not, you know, remondrous Stevens and
fumbling or a Drake may brain fart. Well, I don't
do that, Drake, just just live to fight another day.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Go down. That's some progress I think we've seen from him.
Don't regress.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
I mean, you know, but there have been some plays
like let's face sit where they look great when they work,
but when they don't, it's terrifying.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
So so far they've been working for him. Hopefully that
continues today.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
But you've got to be careful with the ball, and
you can't make stupid plays when you don't have to, agreed.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I'm really liking this email. The subject line is a
House Divided Part two. I don't know if you two
remember Oliver in Nashville, Tennessee. He emailed last year the
day after his wedding. Just a refresher. He's a Rhode
Island Burn Pats fan. His wife is a Tennessee Titans fan.
We're on our way to the game this year as well.
With the baby girl on the way and her fandom
relies on this game. I'm hoping she comes out of

(26:33):
this as a Pats fan. I'm stoked to see Drake Meghan.
That was a November game, so happy early anniversary to
you guys. But he says, great show as always, thank you, Oliver,
good luck.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Good luck, congrats, Yeah, congrats to Yeah, be nice right.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
And your wife's pregnant wife's face.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Exactly, no matter what. Let's hear what Nate is calling
in from Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
About Hey guys, you guys hear me?

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Yeah I did, all right.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
So my question for you guys today is about our
rookie wide receiver Kyle William. You know, he hasn't had
the hottest start, you know, with the crowded wide receiver room,
that's kind of expected. But you know, he's gotten in,
He's gotten a couple of snaps. I think he's had
like a catcher to in these past couple of games.

(27:26):
But do you think he uh gets in today or
do you think he has you know, more catches or
increased snaps today. Obviously it's against Tennessee, so I think
probably towards the end of the game, you know, if
it's a blowout, they're probably gonna take out a lot
of their main guys and try and get some of

(27:46):
the second string or the the rookies out. But yeah,
I just want your guys thoughts on that good question.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I think Kyle Williams has been part of the equation
every game, not just late in the game. You know,
some of I want to say, like like the first game,
someone got banged up and I think he finished the game.
But I mean he's he's been sort of targeted or
they've drawn up some plays. I shouldn't say targeted, they've

(28:13):
drawn up some plays I think with him in mind
early in games the last couple of weeks, and they
haven't played out. You know, one of the underrated plays
of the game last week, after the horrific offensive passing
appearance on Digs that took away to Mario Douglas's second touchdown.
So now it's third and twelve. Yeah, the next play

(28:33):
was a deep ball to Kyle Williams that resulted into
passing appearance, which allowed the Patriots to immediately overcome that
penalty and score the touchdown. Anyway, So Kyle Williams has
been part of the equation. We haven't seen it statistically,
but I think he's running good routes, he's getting open
and for whatever reason, it just hasn't clicked yet, but
I see some promise there.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah, just real quick.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
His snaps for the six games this year seven, ten, nine, fourteen, ten, fourteen,
So we're seeing a little bit of a trend.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I mean for a fifth receiver to get fourteen snaps
in the game. Yeah, not bad, that's not bad. That
means they like him, that means they see something in him, right.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
And you also have you know, Diggs's on the injury
report with a chest so you know, aside from pulling
the starters, which you know fingers crossed, but still, you know,
that could be an opportunity for Williams to get some
more snaps. Dix talked about Williams this week in the
locker room, and you can tell that that they're all
kind of pulling for him and that there's been you know,
feel like they've left some plays on the board with
him out there, some big plays. I think they all

(29:30):
want that to happen for him. I think it's probably
just a matter of time before it does break out.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
But you know, if they were able to pull back on.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Digs a little bit today and just give him more snaps,
I think you're seeing some of the progress that they
like getting his feet wet and hopefully he starts, you know, producing.

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Speaker 5 (33:35):
Welcome back into the Patriots Pregame Show fueled by Duncan.
Like they just mentioned, we will get to those calls
and emails in just a second. Pluff Rollo is still here,
Mike do So still here as well. I'm Kwanni Lunis.
But we want to talk about the inactives and the
actives as well. I think the biggest storyline Stefan Diggs.
You just mentioned that Chessie is going to be active
in this game, as well as Herod Landry the third

(33:55):
with that ankle injury we saw last week. But we
want to talk about the people that aren't playing.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah, I mean, really the big one is Jalen Hawkins,
who did return to practice this week. Wasn't able to
go last week, still battling a hamstring issue. So probably
Kyle Dugger back there playing safety alongside Brookie Craig Woodson.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
But great time for Harold Landry. I mean when he
went down.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
Last week, I was like, this is a big I
thought it was done when we talked about the lack
of depth and just a critical injury that could really
hurt the defense, especially Harold Landry.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
He's kind of the centerpiece there on the edge. So
great for him.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
He survived.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
He missed two days of practice, came back Friday and
still is playing. You don't, I mean, I've been here
a while Paul. We don't usually see that guy, you know,
just comes Friday.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
In the miss I thought he was in on Friday.
Once he was full. It struck me as a little
bit more maintenance than anything else when he came back
into play. But I do I am a little concerned
about him in particular because I don't think he played
very well after the injury last week. So I wonder

(34:54):
how much that has affected his mobility. Something to keep
an eye on. You know, maybe it won't be a
huge deal today. I know it probably means a lot
to him, sure, as a former Titan to go back
into that stadium and play. You know, this is another
one of those things. And I know, Mike, you're uncomfortable
with this talk of you know, hopefully it's comfortable when

(35:16):
you can get some of these guys out of the
game a little bit. Hopefully we're not asking Harold Landry
to play ninety plus percent of the snaps today and
get him a little bit of rest.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
I mean, talk about a guy though that has been
excellent for the Patriots, seems like a consummate professional, voted captain,
and you know, I just find myself wondering, like, what
are the Titans, Like, why was that a money thing?
Like I don't really understand, you know, getting rid of
that kind of player from.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Your team on the edge, especially when you look at
the depth they have left, it's not that great.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
So Harold Andry's going into a key part of this
team and hopefully, yeah, it'd be great to just again
keeping everybody health the day.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
So one of the other inactives, you know, is Charles Woods,
and I think that is sort of an under the
radar blow to the secondary depth. He moved ahead of
Alex Austin Woods did, and I think he's played really well.
I thought he had one of the more underrated plays
of the game last week that no one really talked
about other than Mike Rabel, who was mentioning it about
five times during the course of the week. Him knocking

(36:10):
the ball away from Alave prevented the Saints from converting
a third and seventeen, which is a backbreaking conversion. But
he was able to stick with that play and Alave
had the ball, had the first down and was in
I think it was a catch in a fumble, but
him knocking that ball away I thought kept points off
the board in a very tight game. So now you're

(36:33):
going to be missing him, So that's a layer of
your depth that goes away. I'm not as concerned about
Kyle Duggar having to play. I thought Dugger played reasonably
well last week. I didn't really notice him for the
balance of the game after the very first play, which
I thought was really interesting. You and I talked about
this in the postgame show, might that we thought it
was kind of an odd call to come out on

(36:55):
play one. Well, Zach Korr agreed when we talked to
him during the course of the week. He put that
all on himself, said, I just put, you know, Kyle
in a very bad spot there, and we were expecting
one thing and we got another and we got beat
and sometimes that happens. But I thought Tugger was pretty
good in in Hawkins's place last week.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Just highlight, Miles Battle was promoted from the practice squad,
so he's getting the opportunity today. Another guy who finished
with the team last year and you know is found
a way to stick around getting maybe a little bit
of an opportunity, probably mostly on special teams. And then
charl Jennings, who we want to talk about. Guys, if
this game were to get to a nice easy place
that maybe he gets some carries today. But I still
think he's more of a break the glass in case

(37:37):
of emergency kind of guy. And you know, but I
still would love to see him get some opportunities because
I think they're not going to make it through the
last ten games of the season with just Stevenson and Henderson.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
This is too much to ask of those guys.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
They're going to need to find a way to get
a third back, at least in a rotational role, or
a way to just keep those guys a little bit fresh,
because you know, especially getting the playoffs and you know,
the weather gets colder, you're asking even more of your
run game. So I think they're gonna that continues to
be a concern.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Of mine ahead of the trade deadline in November. Is
there anyone that you two have kept your eyes on
the potential?

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Derek Henry, that's probably, but god, I think that's you know,
the kind of position.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
If there's various reports coming around.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
To what they are aren't interested in, I don't really
put too much stock in those, but there's been reports
that they're looking at cornerbacks that I mean, we talked
this week about maybe some linebacker death, maybe some safety
depth for Hawkins out, But to me, running back is
the is the obvious one.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And Jeremy Follower did say that the Red Sox the
Patriots are in the running back market. So we will
see it to someone. You know, Breese Hall is a
guy that I've sort of had an eye on it, and
I know people just look at it and kind of
cross it off because it's the Jets and it's a
division rival. I think the Jets would be doing themselves
a disservice if they thought that they could make a
deal with the Patriots that made sense for them. But

(38:54):
who knows. Yeah, I mean it's they need a professional
running ba.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
They do, and I think that that's why they're using
Jennings in this role. Like I just wonder if they're
treading water a little bit to see what is available
at the trade deadline rather than extending yourself to find somebody. Now,
you might be able to maximize the value if you
wait a couple of weeks towards then.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
So I just I'll continue to keep an eye on that.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah, for sure, November fourth election day and the trade deadline,
so it's gonna be an interesting Tuesday, friends. But I'm
gonna read this email really quickly before we get into
some calls, because we have eyes on the ground. This
is Johnny in Nashville. He is at Nissan Stadium and
he's sitting in the top right corner. So we'll try
to see if you can find you on the TV screen.
But he said it's windy, and I've already seen all
the punt returners for both teams struggle to catch punts

(39:38):
in this end, except Marcus Jones. Maybe something to keep
an eye on, go Pats, all right, Johnny, keep your
eyes on that for us.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Well, luckily he's the guy too returns the punts. I'm
not that wordy thing, right, I've heard, you know, some
of the writers talked about some rain too. I don't
know if that's persistent or not. Kind of hard to
tell in our shot that we have this dis Your
boy Steph Diggs, Mike is he's one of my college

(40:05):
looks like the chest is okay, So I don't know
if the if you know the conditions, you know, if
we remember Mike, there was a little controversy with the
wind in this game last year in Nashville, Patriots inadvertently,
uh went against the wind in overtime when they had
their choice of which side, and I was sort of

(40:27):
credited with having something to do with the the interception
in overtime by Drake May. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah, so eighteen miles per hour wind right now with
a sixty one percent precipitation, seventy percent humidity. I'm a meteorologist, guys. Yeah,
but yeah, fifty nine degrees there and like you said,
light rain, So I think.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
It's still football weather. I still put it under football
weather abroad.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Makes it fun.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, I don't think the weather we'll have much of
an impact on the game, but I mean you never know.
Like we keep talking about turnovers, you get a wet
ball and all of a sudden, the couples, you know,
maybe one over the middle, there's a little high wet
ball goes off a guy's hands, you know, who knows,
like the sound effects. We've seen a lot of sort
of slipping in in the London game, which tends to

(41:09):
happen in London. It's anyone knows how dreary it is
in London.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
That true?

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Is that a thing with London?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
London freaking news here?

Speaker 5 (41:19):
All right? We got to email.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Is that really a thing?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
No, never heard of it. We got an email from
a Johnny, So I'm gonna Johnny. They got him all
from Johnny in Atlanta somewhere we found shout out to
the camera. Guy. Wow, that's amazing. All right, Hi, other
Johnny in Atlanta. How are you?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Johnny?

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Got worried for a second.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
How are you?

Speaker 16 (41:44):
How you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
We're good?

Speaker 17 (41:47):
Remember me, johnnyphon Mike, how you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
What's up? Johnny?

Speaker 17 (41:52):
I'm doing great? Hey, listen, Kawanie. I am familiar with
you because I watched the Big Three podcasts as well.
Thank you to then the Patriots collab.

Speaker 16 (42:02):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 17 (42:04):
I never realized you were left handed like myself. That's
why you're my favorite.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh I'm actually right handed, and I look maybe i'm
a jectas.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Actually Johnny, I'm left handed and I didn't hear you
telling that I'm your favorite. But that's okay, I'm.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Losing favorite points.

Speaker 17 (42:21):
Have a question today, As you guys know what Paul knows.
I've been a listener since PFW, but I don't really
have a question today. I do, however, have a request.
I am in Orlando, right now with my family. Would
taking my son to Disney World tomorrow his birthday, good
luck yesterday eight you wish my son Christian a happy birthday?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Oh my goodness, of course every birthday Christian.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Happy birthday Christian, and enjoy and enjoy the magic Kingdom there.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Don't spend too much money, right, give Nikki a.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
For us two words, fast past and surest.

Speaker 17 (42:59):
I got a prediction thirty eight to ten again Matthew Morrell.
I appreciate you, my brothers from the past, having my
productions on the show and went like to follow me
to have some music. Johnny euphonic at Ig.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Thanks Johnny, Thanks Johnny fun in Disney World, Yeah, Disneyland.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
Me and my dad were still talking about the churros
down there that we got. We were introduced to churros,
went to Disney World, and we just kept going back
and back and back.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
My dad the other day, I mean, this is like
it was like thirty forty years ago. Remember those cheeros.
I remember the cheers.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Now I want a chiro. This isn't right. Can we
get some cheers?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I've ever had a cheero?

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Seriously, now we got to find you one, all right,
let's hear what Brad is in Ohio. Hi, Brad, Hey, Hey,
how you have the end today?

Speaker 6 (43:44):
Good up?

Speaker 14 (43:46):
Good?

Speaker 16 (43:47):
Yeah, I can. I can relate to the left handed
group too. I'm a left east there you got the
right side of my brain, Paul, What it is, buddy?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
World set up for alrighty, the world is set up
for right handed people. It's true we have to overcome
ran ball.

Speaker 16 (44:08):
You got that right, Isn't that the true? So anyway,
I think that the score will be twenty eight to
ten just because the weather. I don't think Josh'll be
wanting to, you know, kind of open things up like
he would if it was.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I'll take twenty eight points.

Speaker 16 (44:26):
Yeah, yeah. But I one thing I'm wondering if you
guys would check to tell me your opinion on look.
I love the Wilson kid. He's playing gray. As far
as past blocking, he's really struggled at round blocking. And
I'm wondering if that's the center thing and her guard
thing or if Ben Brown it seemed like the only

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time we ran well, if I'm not mistaken, you guys,
you know, tell me about this in retrospect, is when
Ben Brown was actually the guard? Am I right by?
That or just give me your opinion.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Thank you, Thank you, Brad.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I don't believe they've run the ball well in any
games this year, but I do think Brad I would
agree with you. I thought the game that Ben Brown played,
they got better guard play. And you're not the only
one that came up with that. I know there's been
some talk about that this week around here. I think
Evan brought it up on Patriots Unfiltered.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Evan Lazarre mentioned that maybe Wilson does look like a
guy who is probably more suited to center. Listen, the
offensive line is so much better than it was last
year that I think people have sort of overlooked the
shortcomings of the offensive line. It's still a work in progress.
Like I think people are looking at it as like, well,

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you know, the rankings for this are great, and the
rankings for that are great. Like, no, it's better than
it was last year. There's still some issues here and there,
and the run blocking I think would be one of
those issues. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
I was just a fan of Ben Brown.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
I just really like his size and you know what
he did last year to come in and play center.
Doesn't sound like there's going to be any changes today,
But you know, it is two rookies on the left
side of the line, and there is some development pains.
But I mean as far as throwing those guys right
in there out of the gate, they've been they've been
pretty solid. So you know, they just got to continue
to get in sync. That was what was annoying last week.
It was just one of those games where it's your

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turn to mistake. Now it's your turn to make a mistake.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
You know.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
It wasn't like, well, this one guy can't do it.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
It's you know, so I they have good reps, but
they also have, you know, some not so great reps,
so maybe they can string it all together.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
I think that's possible, but we'll see today.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Okay, before we close, let's get into our favorite part
of the show. It's time now for over and Under.
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All right, Paul, how did we look last week?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, so I'm fighting week twenty four and two, three, three.
So the season's standings are as follows. Looks like Kwannie
is still in the lead at twenty two and fourteen,
followed by Mike at twenty and sixteen and Paul at

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sixteen and twenty. So I'm still way in the basement.
I'm fighting. And I was five and one last.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Week, so ten eleven games left on time for it.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
So I'm still I'm still here. I'm still here here.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
He's still fighting. All right. Let's start with Drake May
passing and rushing yards right now. That's at two hundred
and sixty and a half.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
I'll start us off. I like that number. I'm going
over on that for Drake.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Got Yeah, I'm going over as well. Yeah, I think
he's gonna have a big, big passing day.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
I'm gonna go with over as well. Especially thank you
so much, Multicolor too. I'm gonna go over as well.
We talked about, obviously the run game, but the fact
that this one has both, I'm gonna can bank on that.
All right.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
There's a mistake here, oh touchdowns.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
I was gonna say, Kim Wore probably gonna pass for
yards as much as I think it's gonna be a tough,
tough game for him.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Exactly one half one and a half touchdowns, So I
I am up first, I'm going to take the under
on that. I'd think it's a very offensively challenged team.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Yeah see, well, I agree with you. I'm hoping they
do get at least one touchdown for this one and
a half for the sake of our enjoyment of football.
So I'm gonna go with the over. A little too
much faith in Kim wored today, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
Yeah, I gotta stick with my predictions. So I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go under with Polly.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
There you go. You've been content trying to trying to.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Up next Drake May's longest completions urity for and a half.
I can see. Yes, I'll take the over on that. Yeah, yeah,
I'm with you. I'm with you, Drake.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
Shoot, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna roll the dice
a little bit here, maybe try to make up some
ground on twenty.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
But I'm gonna say under. I'm gonna say under.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
I'm gonna say that they're gonna come in and they're
gonna say we're not gonna let you beat us deep
beat us with the beat us, read through everything, try
to you know, complete the short stuff, figure it out
on your own.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
No cut loose receivers running downfield. So I'm going under.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, I'm with Mike. Tennessee has struggles a little bit
with some deep balls, and I think they're going to
try another. This is another thing I think when another
guy comes in and he takes over AND's like, we
gotta we got to straighten this out. We got to
straighten that out. I think Mike is going to hit
this one. He's They're gonna make him go the long way.
They saw what Drake May did last week. They'll tighten up.

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So I'm gonna take the under.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
The interim, but speak tighten up all right. Travon Henderson
rushing yards and a.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
Half, I do think you'll have a game where he'll
break forty and a half. I'm just I'm gonna roll
the dice more on Remandree today having the game. So
I'm gonna say under for Travion, Hm.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Why not. I'll take the overy. It is a little crazy,
but I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
I'm gonna take the under, assuming, yeah, assuming they will see.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Sorry, I to the rams, laying laying it to the
Jags right now. Sorry, just the scoreboard, thirty five to seven.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
All right, up next, we have total punts eight and
a half. Shout out to the emailer Johnny. He was
onto something with this one eight and a half.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm gonna take the over. Oh no, one
likes to see a lot of punts. But I think
we're going to it.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Sounds like it might be that kind of game if
the weather affects it. I'm gonna take the over.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
What I'm gonna make it fun? I'll go under?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Okay? And last but not least, total score forty two
and a half points.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
All right, so I think you're up.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
I always have to do math when I get to
this fire, or at least I pretend to. I don't. Actually,
I'm right divide by four. I'm gonna take the This
doesn't make sense. I'll take anyone else want.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
To go first, I'll go. I'm gonna go under. I'm
gonna go under. Stressed, I'm going under.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah, I took the under as well.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
I'm just gonna go three for three under because I
was like, the points just might not be there. All right,
there we go.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
We've got to do that.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
One hopefully right?

Speaker 6 (51:07):
All right, okay, we have now the great about my picks?

Speaker 9 (51:11):
We do?

Speaker 5 (51:11):
That's good? No stressed out? All right, We're going to
get into the Sunday six pack right now. That is
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do we do on this one? Last week?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
So and this one? Mike took first place last week
at four and two. Kwannie and I were two and four.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So the season standings, which is still abysmal. Kwannie leads
at sixteen and sixteen, followed by me fifteen and seventeen,
and Mike, despite his win last week, is still in
last at fourteen and eighteen.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Bad margin. Though, I feel like we're kind of trying.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
It hasn't been a good week.

Speaker 7 (51:54):
It's been I think it's been a hard year for
picks all. We've been off even on like, are there
show picks?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Right?

Speaker 6 (52:00):
It's is it just me?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Kind of?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Okay? So first up Miami Dolphins at the Cleveland Browns
Cleveland two and a half.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Oh boy, I forget what I picked on PU, but
doesn't really matter what you pick. Well, I try to
be consistent Palm, but I'm gonna go with the Browns
in a tight I'm gonna lay those two and a
half points, but I think it'll be about that close.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, I'm with Cleveland as well. I could see that
defense making life awfully difficult on TUA. Maybe some turnovers
today give the Browns a home victory.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Yeah, I have Cleveland at home as well. By the way, Mike,
I will be stealing this pen. I really like the color.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I like the color, right.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Okay, up next New York Giants at Denver Broncos Denver seven.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the seven. Yeah, I'm gonna
lay the seven with Denver because it's in Denver. Mike,
and that pass rush I think is gonna make like.
I don't like doing that because I I don't like
doing the Fred Kursh rooting for injuries thing. But I
don't think Jackson Dark makes that out of this game. Tennis.
I don't think he finished right. I think he's had
some issues already with some concussions. He runs kind of recklessly.

(53:13):
This is not the team to do that against. I
think Denver.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Wins going with no air interesting.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I do think the Giants got a little something going,
but this will be a tough one.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Yeah, I'm picking New.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
York for the plot, even though in my heart of heart,
I do think Denver will win. But New York for
the plot.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Denver.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Okay, wise decision.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
I think.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Up next, we have the five and one Colts at
the La Chargers LA two and a half.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Are you lacking?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
This is a good This is a good match up.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
I have Indy, Indy, I wrote Indy, I'm gonna go
with Jones in LA. We'll see.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
It's a tough one.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
I'm just I'm gonna go Charges are banged up, but
I'm gonna go with the Charges at home. I just
Herbert betting a little given him the edge.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna be with Mike. I'm gonna take the lack.
But I could see this going both ways. I like
both of these teams. I think they have some some
building pieces to build around. But the injuries to the
Chargers worry me because I just I think it's hard
to just continue to cover up for all those personnel losses,
but I like him at home.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Jonathan Taylor's good run game travels, you know.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
But yeah, we'll see up next to the game. We'll
be waiting all day for Sunday night football. Atlanta Falcons
at the San Francisco forty nine ers. Santa Franz one
and a half.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
Back up to me. San Francisco getting a little healthy.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Man.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
The Falcons are just sowauping down.

Speaker 7 (54:43):
I'm gonna take San Francisco at home like that tight spread.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
I'm gonna take Atlanta. I'm probably gonna regret it because
the Falcons are one of those teams that always finds
a way to lose these kinds of games. But you know,
they have three wins this year, all against good teams.
I think San Francisco is a pretty good team. I
think the Fred Warner loss is huge for them. I'm
going to take Atlanta on the road.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
There you go. I'm going to take San France at
home as well. Like you said, Atlanta's too flaky for
me at this point.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Kendrick Bourne giving bild a shout out their pregame down
at UNC.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
I saw a Maxis high. I don't know about the
maxis high part.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Did he really? But one said that I missed that?

Speaker 5 (55:29):
All Right, we have Tampa Bay at Detroit. Detroit. Now,
this is now, this is a game, this is this
is Monday night football.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Preview.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
This is me. I'm going to take Tampa Bay. I
love Detroit. I think they have an excellent team, but
I like but I like the way Tampa is playing
and looks like they're going to get Mike Evans back.
I guess they haven't completely ruled a BUCA out yet,
so they might be getting some of their pieces back.
Probably no Bucky Irving. But I'm gonna take Tampa on
the road to at least keep it close.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Doesn't matter when you got Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Right, Yeah, Baker Baker, I'm gonna take Detroit.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
You gotta respect how Baker's playing. I mean, he's just
a great story for the NFL. It's just something I think,
you know, it's just the leagu's better with him, and
it's not what Fred Alway says.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, I don't really get it, but.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna be a quantity. I'm
gonna take Detroit.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
At home and last, but not least, the game of
the Hour the New England Patriots at the Tennessee Titans.
New England, I think you get under seven. I have
been rolling New England since week one, rolling and nothing's changing. Today.
I'm taking the Patriots.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Patriots.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah, I think we're all ear an agreement. Just not
enough offense for Tennessee. I believe me. I could talk
myself into you like last week. You know, you guys
talked me into New Orleans being competitive, and ultimately you
guys were right.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
I didn't try to talk getting it this week.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
All yeah, I just don't. I don't see it this week.

Speaker 7 (57:02):
Yeah, just don't let you Jeffrey Simmons get in and
cause a fumble and you know, change the course of
the game real quick. I got New England. I'm going
to say, you know, twenty seven to six. I think
I got twenty seven. Mike and I were like very close.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
That's ridiculous polls.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
But I just like to really see the Patriots on
both sides of the ball play with some confidence.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Hate the word swag, but play with a little swag.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
You know, just start to play like a team that
believes in yourself and you know you're not just oh
my god, we made a touchdown, you know, like you're
beyond that. Now you're you're showing you're a good team.
Continue to build on that and don't play with your
food with this kind of team. This kind of team
comes in, you have the opportunity just to eliminate hope
right from the get go. And I think in that regard,
it's a really good test for this Patriots team because

(57:45):
talk about the rushing offense, passing defense starts, you know,
fast starts, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
You don't want to see Kim Wore come out on
the first drive of the game and go right down
the field on the Patriots defense, like we've seen far
too many times this this season already.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
So come out with a good start.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
I think that I had to come up with a
second key that would be fast extra keys, you know,
don't give him any hope.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Get it right out there. Some weeks you got nothing.
This week, you just have a multi.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Which is the red key. All right, we have to
have one more caller, So Jake in Connecticut, you're the
lucky winner. Keep this short though, please, Hi, Jake, uh Jake, Jake,
did you fall asleep?

Speaker 6 (58:24):
Jake out all.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Right in Kentucky. You're winning. Oh I thought he was
going to high see.

Speaker 10 (58:36):
Good morning. How are you going?

Speaker 16 (58:37):
We're good, good, good deal.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
It's my name is Steve down here in Kentucky. He's
been a lifelong Patriots fan and for some of the
younger generation pass fans. You know, I'm in my thirties,
so I've been following the Patriots since like mid late nineties.
And this is essentially like an appreciation called for Josh McDaniels.
I mean, it's been such a blessed thing. I feel
like he would be back in New England if there's

(59:03):
one job that he can't messed up, its offensive coordinator
in New England. And how important do you think it's
been this season for him being the OC in his
development with Drake May I think, you know, he's been
the very effective there in New England the entire years

(59:24):
he's been there, of course, with Bradi and Belichick. But
I just feel like it could potentially be a different
season if we didn't have Josh McDaniels as the OC
in New England this year.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Yeah, great playing, thank you.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
See to make it quick, but no, I mean, look
at the proofs in the putting house Drake playing, does
he look comfortable? Is he spreading the ball around? Does
he look like he knows you do? Yeah, let's try
to get the offense going too. I think that's Josh's
big challenge here.

Speaker 6 (59:45):
So here we go, folks.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, I don't know the answer to that. I give
more of the credit to Drake may I think he's
been so much better, you know, in and around the pocket,
protecting the ball. I give him the credit for that.
Now I give Josh credit for helping with the protection.
I think there are things like the first touchdown passed
last week against New Orleans. I know we're up against it.

(01:00:07):
I think that was something that was schemed up and
they had extra protection in there. Last year, I don't
think that would have happened. So I give Josh some credit,
but I give the vast majority of it to Drake himself.

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