October 21, 2025 • 4 mins
[Rerun] Dr. Kirk Honda interviews Humberto about his schemas, childhood, emotional needs, etc. (Intro) The full episode is available to patrons of the podcast.
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September 7, 2019
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September 7, 2019
The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®
Trigger Warning: This episode may include topics such as assault, trauma, and discrimination. If necessary, listeners are encouraged to refrain from listening and care for their safety and well-being.
Disclaimer: The content provided is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. Nothing here constitutes personal or professional consultation, therapy, diagnosis, or creates a counselor-client relationship. Topics discussed may generate differing points of view. If you participate (by being a guest, submitting a question, or commenting) you must do so with the knowledge that we cannot control reactions or responses from others, which may not agree with you or feel unfair. Your participation on this site is at your own risk, accepting full responsibility for any liability or harm that may result. Anything you write here may be used for discussion or endorsement of the podcast. Opinions and views expressed by the host and guest hosts are personal views. Although, we take precautions and fact check, they should not be considered facts and the opinions may change. Opinions posted by participants (such as comments) are not those of the hosts. Readers should not rely on any information found here and should perform due diligence before taking any action. For a more extensive description of factors for you to consider, please see www.psychologyinseattle.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Psychology in so Burto.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Lately, I've been doing some episodes on Schema Therapy that
are for patrons only, and I did a long, four
and a half hour deep dive into schema therapy a
couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago, and I
never really knew the model of schema therapy. It comes
with it a pretty robust theory that was developed in
(00:28):
the eighties and nineties and two thousands, so it's a
fairly contemporary theory compared to other theories that we have
available to us. And I'm really starting to like it
because it fits with the way I think about humans
and about personality. But it provides this very specific language
and a system of walking ourselves or our clients or
(00:52):
other people through to really flesh out you know, there's
certain things we talk about on this podcast where it's
it's like, Okay, I have an issue with X, or
I went through this with my dad, and therefore I
have an issue like this, and it's kind of an
amorphous understanding. There's an amorphous description with schema therapy. They
(01:14):
they provide this very specific language to the schemas, and
they also provide this very specific system of understanding the
full breadth of that issue. It's like it's a description
of an issue.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I guess it'd be like saying something, you know, like
something in the physical world. It'd be like, Okay, that's
a car that went down the road, whereas it's like, okay,
how about let's open the hood.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know, there's four wheels.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
There's an engine, there's the you know, the manifold, the pistons,
the break pat you know, like you start seeing the
components of the issue through schema therapy, and I'm actually
starting to change the theory to fit the way that
I see the world and make it more specific to me,
because some of it feels a little weird.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I've already changed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And as I interview you and we look at your
schemas and your coping strategies and your maladaptive issues, assuming
there are any, we can further illuminate this model, but
also change it to fit what I think would be
just more resonant with the way we think that you
(02:25):
and I.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What do you say? I love it sounds intriguing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So in this episode, it's kind of take a while,
and we have a few hours here available to us.
I'm going to be interviewing you about your childhood, how
it relates to your personality, how it relates to your
coping strategies over the years that have not worked out
for you, and also how you can get your needs
(02:48):
met in a functional way that scheme of therapy. The
model helps to illuminate and people out there listening, as
you've listened to other episodes about scheme therapy that I've done.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I hope that because as I go, because I do
with a full.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Assessment and I ask them a bunch of questions, and
you could answer the questions at home on your own
to kind of figure out how you would fit into
this model as well and maybe benefit in that way.
So what do you say, Berta, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
This is the Psychology and Shattle podcast. I'm your host,
doctor kir Khana. I'm a therapist and a professor. Who
were you, Umbeto?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
My name is Sumberto Ca and I help people to
square the circle. So this episode is just for patrons
of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So if you want to hear this full episode, you
have to become a patron by going to Patreon dot com.
When you become a patron, you get access to this episode,
you get access to the Bob deep dive with Scheme
of Therapy, you get access to the five hours in
which I do a deep dive on schem of Therapy,
and you get access to all the greatest episodes of
psychology and shattle. I did something like fourteen hours on
(03:57):
attachment theory. I did a deep dive on soon Aside.
I've done deep dives on psychodynamic theory and all sorts
of things.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So go to patreon dot com, become a patron. Do
it now, Do it now,
Psychology in so Burto.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Lately, I've been doing some episodes on Schema Therapy that
are for patrons only, and I did a long, four
and a half hour deep dive into schema therapy a
couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago, and I
never really knew the model of schema therapy. It comes
with it a pretty robust theory that was developed in
(00:28):
the eighties and nineties and two thousands, so it's a
fairly contemporary theory compared to other theories that we have
available to us. And I'm really starting to like it
because it fits with the way I think about humans
and about personality. But it provides this very specific language
and a system of walking ourselves or our clients or
(00:52):
other people through to really flesh out you know, there's
certain things we talk about on this podcast where it's
it's like, Okay, I have an issue with X, or
I went through this with my dad, and therefore I
have an issue like this, and it's kind of an
amorphous understanding. There's an amorphous description with schema therapy. They
(01:14):
they provide this very specific language to the schemas, and
they also provide this very specific system of understanding the
full breadth of that issue. It's like it's a description
of an issue.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I guess it'd be like saying something, you know, like
something in the physical world. It'd be like, Okay, that's
a car that went down the road, whereas it's like, okay,
how about let's open the hood.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know, there's four wheels.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
There's an engine, there's the you know, the manifold, the pistons,
the break pat you know, like you start seeing the
components of the issue through schema therapy, and I'm actually
starting to change the theory to fit the way that
I see the world and make it more specific to me,
because some of it feels a little weird.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I've already changed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And as I interview you and we look at your
schemas and your coping strategies and your maladaptive issues, assuming
there are any, we can further illuminate this model, but
also change it to fit what I think would be
just more resonant with the way we think that you
(02:25):
and I.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What do you say? I love it sounds intriguing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So in this episode, it's kind of take a while,
and we have a few hours here available to us.
I'm going to be interviewing you about your childhood, how
it relates to your personality, how it relates to your
coping strategies over the years that have not worked out
for you, and also how you can get your needs
(02:48):
met in a functional way that scheme of therapy. The
model helps to illuminate and people out there listening, as
you've listened to other episodes about scheme therapy that I've done.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I hope that because as I go, because I do
with a full.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Assessment and I ask them a bunch of questions, and
you could answer the questions at home on your own
to kind of figure out how you would fit into
this model as well and maybe benefit in that way.
So what do you say, Berta, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
This is the Psychology and Shattle podcast. I'm your host,
doctor kir Khana. I'm a therapist and a professor. Who
were you, Umbeto?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
My name is Sumberto Ca and I help people to
square the circle. So this episode is just for patrons
of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So if you want to hear this full episode, you
have to become a patron by going to Patreon dot com.
When you become a patron, you get access to this episode,
you get access to the Bob deep dive with Scheme
of Therapy, you get access to the five hours in
which I do a deep dive on schem of Therapy,
and you get access to all the greatest episodes of
psychology and shattle. I did something like fourteen hours on
(03:57):
attachment theory. I did a deep dive on soon Aside.
I've done deep dives on psychodynamic theory and all sorts
of things.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So go to patreon dot com, become a patron. Do
it now, Do it now,
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