October 29, 2025 • 45 mins
Reality After Show's Lauren Pratt sits down with 99 to Beats Courtney & Lance Lombardo to chat about their experience on Fox's new hit Reality TV Show!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's going on? We are back Reality after show and
we were hitting it with another ninety nine to beat interview,
and today I'm joined by two very special guests. We
have Lance, we have Courtney in the house. How are y'all?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want to be here, very happy to have y'all.
And I'm going to dive right in because I want
to know y'all's story. How did you get on the show?
What made you want to do this together?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Should I start? So? I mean, basically, I was just
scrolling TikTok one night and I came across a video
of one of the casting producers saying that they were
looking for duos who like adventure and travel. So I've
always wanted to be on some sort of competition show.
So I decided to apply, not thinking anything of it,
and they got back to me pretty immediately. I originally
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applied to do the show with my fiance and then
we realized with our daughter it wouldn't work out. And
then I thought this guy was me for television, so
he would be a perfect fit.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And on my end, when when already asked me as
her dad, I was blown away that one of my
kids wants to do something like this with me, So
I said yes, and I gotta be honest, not really
expecting we would get chosen. I mean out of one
hundred thousands of people that applied. I'm like, yeah, of
course I'll do it with you, thinking there's no way.
And before you knew it, we had done an interview,
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contracts were signed, and we were off to London. I
was already in, so I was all in, no matter what. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
How excited y'all when you found out it was filming
in London?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I was super excited about that. That was definitely a
huge bonus to me because I had never been to
Europe before, and I know for Europe. For him, he's
very into like history and just all that kind of stuff.
Jimmy Page apparently has a house in London, so that
was like a really big expert.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
For those of you who don't know, Jimmy Page is
the guitar player and the led Zeppelin, the greatest rock
band of all time. And Courtney actually talked me into
go into his house and take pictures in front, which
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you got more out of it then you thought
you were going to get with it being filmed.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Out this was when we got out of it more
than anything. And I'm just I'm listen. As far as
I'm concerned, I walked away the biggest winner.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Absolutely. I mean it's an incredible experience no matter how
you finish, because you just see the impact in the
relationships that people are able to build with each other there.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean I didn't expect to
bond so quickly with ninety eight other contestants. I mean
I was expecting to, you know, like some people hit
it off with them, but like the way, I mean,
if you see the background of most scenes, like I'm
just crying when they're like down to the last two people,
it's because you truly don't want to see anybody go
home because you know that everybody deserves to be there
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and everybody's there for a good reason. So and that
was after like knowing them for like twenty four hours.
So it's honestly crazy. We say trauma bonded and it
really yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, it's you know what you're you're filming fourteen to
sixteen hours a day, so you really get to know
each other. You get to know every person there, and
it just it's overwhelming how close you become with everybody,
and how sad it is when you leave, I mean,
whether you win or lose. You know, I'm sure the
winner was sad that they left. I mean, I'm sure
they're glad they won a million bucks, but I'm sure
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that they you know, it's sad that that they had
to leave because the bonds that they agreed with everybody, Well,
it was amazing. Who knew?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, did y'all two go to the premier party that
happened in New York?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We did? Yeah, I actually flew because he lives in Connecticut,
so just quick train ride into the city, so I
flew from Florida so I could go because just an
opportunity to see everybody, and I mean premier party in
the city sounded really fun and it was a great time.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because what it sounded like about half of y'all were
able to make it up to that.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, people traveled from all over I mean, Gabe traveled
in as far as from London to be there. So
it was so cool to see how many people California like,
all over the place.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And they turned up all right. It was it was
quite the party.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's great. And so what is Girl's reality television background
before coming onto the show.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I would say, I mean, I'm really into it as
like a really big fan. We actually, well know, we
got started together when I was really young watching Big
Brother together. That was like our thing. I remember being
like six years old and getting to stay up past
my bedtime anytime Big Brother was on. So I was
like all for it, and then he kind of stopped watching,
but I just got more into it. So really our
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experience or my experience, is just being a really big fan.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Courtney's huge into reality shows, all of them, and she's
got a little thing on TikTok where she discusses all
you know, she watches, you know, religiously every week, every
single reality show on TV, and she gives her her
insight to a lot of different topics throughout the week
on her on her on her TikTok page, which is
pretty cool. Me, like I said, I grew up on
Survivor and Big Brother kind of go out of it
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a little bit. You know, it's you know, it is
what it is. But you know that's to the extent
of my experience.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
With it, Survivor, Big Brother, the classics, so you can't
go wrong there. Yes, and so then you find yourselves.
You're there and they tell you that you're playing for
a million dollars, which you didn't know going into it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I mean, it took me a long time to
realize that he wasn't joking. I thought when Ken first
announced it, he was trying to get a big reaction
out of us, just to be like, oh, just kidding
I And then I still after that, I really couldn't
believe it until I realize everybody around me was like,
oh my god, and I'm like, wait, this is actually
a million dollars. It changed everything.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I mean, one hundred thousand dollars in America after taxes
is not that much, but a million dollars is a
complete game changer. I mean it would change anybody's life,
and hopefully for the better.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, right, the stakes can't be any higher than
when they make that announcement because then you're jumping right
into that first game, so you just have to be
like heart pumping, being like crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, that was probably the hardest part of everything, is
you go into these challenges and you're adrenaline takes over
and as much as you tell your mind, like I
only have to beat ninety nine other people. Your body's
just shaking uncontrollably no matter what you do. It is
so hard to kind of get yourself out of that
mental state of like, oh my god, it's this or
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it's nothing and I'm going home. So that was really tough.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, and you can look at it this way too.
They're very easy games, but compounded by the fact that
it's a million dollars and then if you finish last,
you've got no shot at it, it gets very very hard.
They all get very hard, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, you see even as well it's simple games you
could do at home, and people say, oh, I can
do that, but then when you're actually in the moment,
you see so many people their hands are literally shaking
like crazy and they can't settle themselves down.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, that anxiety made just everything a million times harder.
And then you would start to see people finish before you,
and even if it was like one or two, people
are like, I'm so far off, like I'm never gonna
get this. Why did they get it so fast? And
what's wrong with me that I can't get it? So
that was really tough, especially when you ended up down
towards the bottom of challenges it was like things just
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became so much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, we call them the bottom feeders, the ones that
were like third and you know, third and fourth, the
third and fourth people left in a game, you know,
and uh, when we're calling the bottom feeders, and then
you know, like some people kept finding themselves almost almost eliminated.
And I mean that must have been so stressful on
that person alone, you know, because I experienced it once.
They're in the tape measure, the tape measure contest, and
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it was just I can only imagine I went through
it once. I can imagine somebody going through it three
or four times. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh, we will get to the tape measure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We will.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We will definitely be getting to the tape measures for sure.
But I want to talk episode one, some of those games.
What was Yall's favorite game and what was your least
favorite game?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I would say of episode one, I really liked the
balloon because I was in and out and like after
two pops, and I felt like that one I wasn't
as well. I was nervous for that, but you're not
overtaken by like shakes because you're just running at whereas
like with the Pasta, it was very precise and my
mouth was shaking, and I felt like that one was
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really difficult, whereas the balloon one was hard in the
sense that you were nervous, but not hard in the
sense of like completing it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I think my favorite was the war challenge. That was
my favorite. My least favorite was the ice You know,
I had a different strategy than everybody else, So I figure,
your feet are the hottest part of your body. So
I took a sock off, I put it on the ground,
I put the ice on top of it, and then
what I did was I rubbed my foot back and
forth along the along the ice cube to melt the ice.
And then I realized when I was rubbing it on
(08:47):
my face, I was probably disgusting thing to do because
my foot was just on it. But it worked pretty good,
you know, and I think I tipped a part of
my tooth. But to me, the water challenge was it
was the funnest. Then it was the best for me.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So y'all we were on separate teams right for the
water challenge.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yes, yeah, so I was actually in the bottom two
teams in my heat. We were into completely separate heats
and my team was one of the last teams and
Julian was on the other team and his ball got
stuck and we see him shaking it and shaking it,
So that actually bought us enough time to get it.
(09:23):
Given that his ball was stuck. I don't think we
would have finished before them had it just popped right up.
So I mean that kind of came down to my
team getting really lucky because that was a really difficult challenge.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We were pretty safe in that game. We had we
had Jake. Jake was our feeder, Like he said that
he was the last one to feed the tubes and
Jake was the perfect height to where all he had
to do is just bend his neck over and it
whi it just went right in. Was it was a good,
good move for us.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
What was y'all strategy going into that challenge? Because if
that's the very first team challenge that we see, so
not everyone that you get with you're going to know.
So there's going to be people that you might not
have spoken to yet.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, personally, I got to talk to a few people
in the green I'll call it the green room. Melissa
was a coach. Melissa's coach of women's football on California
Melissa was on our team, So what I did was
I had her like just be the voice of direction
for everybody else and then we kind of all agreed
on the places, the places where you know, each placement
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of each person, and then she was a great coach
and ended up working out really good to our favor.
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, we had Philip Snyder from the Wagner family. He
kind of really took control on that and he did
a really good job organizing us based on where we
said we would be comfortable. I think some teams might
have went into that doing like height base because they
thought it would be easier going tallest to shortest, but
we wanted to go Sarah had back surgery after the show,
so she couldn't bend as much, so they had me
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stand right in front of her because I was the
shortest on the team. So we tried to play to
everybody's strengths as opposed to just highte order and.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A footnote on that. Philip Wagner Wagner great family. Yeah,
him and his wife, awesome job with their kids, and
they're just really really good, really good people, really good people.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
What was your reaction when you found out a family
of twelve was in the competition.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
So I'm gonna be honest with you. I was. I wasn't.
I wasn't turned off by it at all. I was
only turned off by it once you went through six
or seven of the competitions and they're all still there,
because now you're starting to think, you know what, there's
now they have twelve chances of this million dollars and
we've only got one of, you know, two chances. But
I mean everybody else was thinking the same thing. You know,
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not we have to take the snyders out, but we
have to take the snighters out, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I think too. One of the things is, I mean
I can play Devil's advocate a little bit here as
somebody who came in with a duo. A lot of
people thought that it gave you more of a chance
of winning. But the feeling of seeing your family member
towards the bottom and like knowing like the stress of
like getting through for yourself, but also feeling that stress
for at least with me and my dad was just
(11:58):
I felt like it was so so intense. So I
feel like they were probably feeling that on like a
very large scale because they had so many people to
worry about. So I can see both ways how people
would see it as an advantage because you have more
people strategizing and helping you, but also more people kind.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Of yeah, but when it all boils down to it,
only one person's gonna come out. You know, only one
person's gonna end up no matter what, someone's gonna lose. Well,
rategize in million different ways, and you can have twelve
people in your family, but eventually only one of them
people are gonna win. So whether you end up down
to the last two people, and if it's Sue Snyder's,
unfortunately one of them is gonna lose. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And then with the Wagner family, that's why we didn't
see them in episode one because I kept hearing family
of twelve and I'm sitting there, where's the family of twelve?
I have no idea who's with who because they didn't
plug them in until episode two.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Mm h.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And speaking of episode two, let's talk a little bit
about that. What games were y'all into? Which one's not
so into?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Episode two? Oh, music challenge was an episode two. It
was I'll say this a million times, I would do
any challenge a million times over before I would ever
want to do the Music Challenge again. That was, wow,
probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. It
was just the like the fear of being blindfolded with
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all that noise, and I felt like we ended up
being on the same team, but you don't know who
your team is obviously until you find each other in
the challenge. And I felt like our instrument, which was
the xylophone, was one of the quieter ones, so all
I heard was those like whistle things. I don't know
what they're called, but they were so loud, and it
was like, until all those teams started getting out, we
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couldn't really hear each other. And you see in that episode,
I'm always crying, but I'm crying because I think that
we're out, like crying through my blindfold because I can't
hear a lot of other instruments because it's all the
quiet instruments left, and I'm thinking we're the last team.
And that challenge was by far my worst challenge of
the entire competition.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I couldn't see anything. Some people said they could see
a little bit of light through, but I could not see.
It was pitch black, and some somebody just grabs me,
and and and and when I you know, when they
grabbed me, I felt there's elophone, so I knew it
was the same the same person. That had to be
one of the most stressful things I've ever been through.
And listen, I've been through recovery. That was stressful. You're blindfolded,
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it's dark, you all your senses are gone except for
your sense of hearing, and that's thrown off because you're
hearing eight different instruments. And it literally you could see
people in tears when their blindfolds came off because it
was such a mentally stressful challenge. Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I know in the UK version, I want to
say they did that with like thirty people, but we
did it with eighty one people, So I mean that
it was just complete chaos.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, it was a big cluster foot well, and you're
sitting there waiting to receive your instruments, so that takes
a ton of time in itself as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, you're standing there, all your senses cut off, with
your hands out, just waiting for them to give it,
and you're praying that you get one of the instruments
that are a little bit louder. And then second I
got that instrument. I was like, oh, we're done.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, you're stressed off because you see people get sacked
little saxophones and you're like, well it's easy for them,
or the people with the bottom the drum, Oh, it's
easy for them. They're gonna hear that more than anything.
We had xylophones. You know, you could you could whistle
loud over a xylophone. I mean it was you know right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It makes it hard because I said that too, watching
and I go, there's some very uneven instruments that have
been handed out. There's some you have the hard ones
I would consider, there was the middle of the road
ones and then the super easy ones because you're really
at a disadvantage if you have an instrument where you
have to utilize both hands. If you can just utilize
one hand and then start grabbing people, it's much easier.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, and here's another challenges. You don't know who your
team is. You have no clue who's on your team.
I didn't know me and Courtney were on my team.
Courtney said, Dad, I knew it. Go ahead, so you
tell her.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, so they would have to stop the challenge while
we were doing it. When you would get a grouping
together so that they could just count and make sure
that you had all your people before they would let
you go on their way. So when it would stop,
it would be complete silence. And I just hear my
dad like, and I'm like, oh my god, my dad's
on my team. So I start feeling around and I
can like feel that it's my dad's sure, and I'm like,
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oh my god, I'm on the same team as my dad.
And I'm like, oh god, we're both going home.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And it was just yeah, because you're not supposed to
you're not supposed to even say a word.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, you couldn't speak at all. But I could tell from.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
His head my breathing, my breathing, my ceop breathing, my
sepet breathing. That's YO.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Anyway to figure out that's the way that it works.
But I want to talk about the potato challenge. Were
y'all partnered up for that or did you choose?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? We were.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, that was actually a pretty fun one.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Corney plays cornhole cornhole and Corney's herner fiance are amazing
at it, so I knew the matter or what she'd
be able toss me the potato she actually I could
hold my fork up and the first two she literally
hit my fork, but I didn't know how to stick it.
On the third one, I figured out how to stick it.
But she was on point. And that's why you didn't
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see a lot of us in the first three episodes.
I think because because I think that we were finishing
pretty decently, you know. But yeah, she was. She killed
it on the potato challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's what I was saying. They did that with a
ton of people. Sometimes you don't see them until certain
episodes because that's when they start ended up being on
the bottom. So I told people, I said, well, you
got a ton of screen times, such as Michelle for example.
I said, Michelle, listen, you had some close calls and
some of those challenges that you were in.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, she was awesome, though, I mean, to get through,
like when you're in the bottom, is to get over
that mental like that's so division.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She's a competitor boy. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh you could see it in this episode five with
the whole boat situation. Just the same face reaction the
entire time and no change whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah. Oh, that was that was an interesting one to watch.
That was that was tough. I feel like the boats
were so like, yeah, couldn't predict how they were going
to move, And Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
One would have been very frustrating challenges because as the
viewer watching and I said, oh man, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, because even I'm sure within the studio, you know,
like they have like the airflow, like there's other factors
that are probably like inadvertently playing kind of a role.
I feel like that was kind of the case with
a lot of things, like even like the ice block challenge,
like people's placement of the whistle, Like nothing is ever
going to be one hundred percent the same playing field
for everybody, because it just wouldn't be possible.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, Like the T shirt challenge was wow?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I believe was that episode two three?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Episode Yeah? Episode two was the T shirt Challenge episode Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That Wow? Wow? Was I only got lucky on that
because I saw a Bethany pick up mine and I
just happened to be standing five feet away from her,
and I saw her throw it down and I just
kind of thought I saw my name, and I sure
enough I pick it up it on my call, thank god,
and it courty Actually it too courty a little bit
longer to find hers on that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I would say it was pretty low to the
bottom bottom ten on that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
One, and that wasn't a bottom feet er, but she
was pretty close.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, I was shocked with that challenge with the person
that did the flip into the circle. That was insane.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah right, I think somebody also got King David got
like an injury. Yes, it's complete chaos. People were like
piling into.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That, like just diving, and they told they told everybody
don't do stupid stuff into the circle, and you know,
some people just don't listen. And somebody got an eye
knocked out, you know, like a black eye or whatever,
and just you know me, I could barely run anyway,
so I kind of waddled into the circle like I
waddled into the blue circle.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, the flips of screen time grab her. That's what
it is at the end of the day, because who
was expecting someone to do a back or a front
flip into the circle? That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's like exalt and uh, you know, bouncing on
his butt. It's a screen time thing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know, whatever works for people if it gets you
your screen time that you're looking for. Hey, I mean
I learned about King David that he was on a
show before Are You the One? And I didn't know that,
and I watched that show and I go, I don't
remember you because you never got screen time.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He was also on a Let's Make a Deal, right Yeah,
but I don't I don't know the premise of that show.
But yeah, he had like a cameo on that show
as well.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So if I remember correctly, he was dressed like a cow.
If I remember correctly, yeah, I know what show.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I know the show.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And again, he was arrogant on that show. But listen,
that's who he is and he's a great guy. I
got to I got to have breakfast with him, uh,
just me and him, one on one, and he opened
up and I understand. You know who he is and
what he's about, and I think he's a really great guy.
I really do. Just misunderstood by a miracle right now.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, I wouldn't even say that necessarily. I think some
people get it and some people don't. But here's the thing.
That's what you want on TV because there's people you
want to see their demise you're rooting for. When is
the demise coming?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Right? America? Wats a villain and they want a hero,
correct and if you're either one, you know what, you're
gonna get ratings for yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh absolutely, you definitely will. But let's dive in a
little bit to episode three with some of the games.
I want to talk about the bowling team challenge where
y'all split up on that one as well.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We were we were, Yeah, I don't think we were
in the same heat for that one right either.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I think we were only on one team challenge together
and that would that was the instrument challenge.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Thoughts on the bowling one.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I didn't really mind that one that much. I had
James Arvind, Danny Lee, and I think somebody else on
that team, and we did pretty well. I mean that
one was all about staying calm, and I feel like
my team did a really good job of just like
focusing in and when we dropped it, we would just
put it back up and what we weren't frantic and
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I and I really enjoyed working with all of those people.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So if you were slightly nervous on that challenge, then
you were going to actually do bad for your team
because you know, everybody had their strategy, which was the
same strategy it's get in front of the next guy
and make sure his his uh, his gutters on top
of yours and and just keep the flow going. And
the ones that were nervous and that we were freaking
out were the ones that were kind of you know,
having the ball get dropped or it was a fairly
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not easy challenge it was. It was. Yeah, actually it
wasn't that easy, but it we we got through pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Such a huge teamwork challenge that one is. And what
I enjoyed about it was you couldn't constantly have the
same person as the last person trying to get it
to hit the pins. I enjoyed that they made it
switch up the lineup because I think then it makes
it a little bit more difficult and other people have
to then step up.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I liked that aspect as well too, because if you
had somebody on your team who wasn't going to be
as great at aiming, I feel like all of my
teammates were. We were pretty evenly. I mean, I would
say Arvind was probably our strongest person that we would
have continuously do it, but if we had to choose,
but it is nice that everybody got the chance. That's
a lot of pressure for one person too, if you
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have your whole team relying on you to just knock
down all the pins.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I mean, listen, if you got good aim, you're gonna
knock a lot of the pins down. And then because
you were pretty close to the line of being able
to get, you know, to release the ball to your
set of pins, I think it should have been at
least five or six feet further back to make it
a little bit harder because people literally were throwing it
and it was knocking pins now. But listen, we got
through it, so I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Complaining, exactly. You can't complain when it works out in
your favor.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Definitely, not right, you're right, You're right. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I want to get to my personal favorite game so
far in the entire competition, and that is the dancing
disc challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A lot of people like that. That was that was
a fun one, but that was for us. We ended
up towards the bottom on that because they just could
not get the rhythm, like for whatever reason. I mean,
our strategy going into it was, hey, you're gonna lay
on the floor and you're not gonna move because my
dad does not have any rhythm. So I'm like there's
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you have a lot of rhythm. He doesn't now, and
so I'm like, you know, you just lay there, let
me do all the work.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And that was funny. And it was funny because you
see shots at Courtney while they're showing James and other people.
You see short Courtney in the back and one of
them are hips for shaking, another one she's jumping up
and down, and I'm just laying on the ground trying
to get the freaking dish to get to me. And
then's finding out that by just swinging it in a
circle that it actually goes faster. So we found that
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out towards the end of our ore being finished, and
Courtey actually started spinning it when it actually came to us.
But people that knew that were out within within a
minute and a half, you know, a minute.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, Like Tommy and David did amazing that one, seeing
how they just like moved together and their thing was
just in a continuous like a jump rope. Then that's
when we realized we need to completely change what we've done.
But then finding that rhythm once you knew you had
to do that was a whole different story.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
So and it was tough seeing Gabe because Gab Gabe
was at one of the bottoms. They were on one
of the bottom teams. It was tough seeing that, but
he had the kind of same strategy we did. A
Will was so tall, so Will stood up, game laid
down and kind of like we're doing what we were doing.
But you know, it was just that that was a
sad one too, because husband and wife and I think
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Courney and I only drove. I think we did it
because I don't think we understood that if we were on,
if we were the last team, one of us were
going home no matter what. Come to think about it, now,
if we if I knew that, I would have been like, yo,
we have to be on separateees no matter what, because
other one of us is going on if we're the
last team, you know right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I was curious with some people why they chose to
stay together and then decided to split, because we have
seen for instance, with the Wagner family it was with
the Potato Challenge two of them split off and had
different partners.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, I feel like with me it was more of
just like a who do I trust the most and
who am I going to be able to like communicate
with or you know, and I felt like my dad
would do a really good job of like switching things
up if he needed to, or telling me if I'm
doing something wrong. Whereas when you're working with somebody else,
like obviously in the heat of the moment, you might
be able to communicate better. But like you don't want
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to think that you have to like yell at someone
or have someone yell at you, or you just don't
get along. So I feel like it's just for me,
it was easier.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I'm used. I'm used to getting yelled at, so it's okay.
But I mean the sameles just like is the potato
challenge the last If you're the last team in the
potato challenge, you two both have to go against each
other and pick somebody to throw it. So again, a
lot of teams picked each other, you know, families for
each other. I picked her because I knew we would
get that potato challenge like that, I knew that was
that was a cinch, you know, right.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It all depends on the amount of trust that you
have with someone else. And then also I believe too,
when you're in that heat of the moment, it's really
hard to think, oh should we actually split off from
each other or is it just easier to stay together.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, and then when you see everybody probably assumes that
you won't break off from your person anyway, so they're
kind of already looking for somebody else. So it just
felt like that was kind of like the natural flow
of things, is that the people who knew each other
were gonna be together.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And I think they looked at me at Courtney's having
a really good father Vader relationship, so they, you know,
kind of and I guess they took it for granted
that we automatically would bear up, you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Know, definitely for sure. Now let's go into episode four
where we finally get to know both of y'all a
little bit more. You guys pop up and we get
a little bit of your story as well in the
confessional that they chose to provide.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Listen, I wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm a
recovered addict. You know. I wasn't an abusive dad, and
I was there for their child, and I just was.
I was there in the house when I wasn't mentally there.
And I got sober almost nine years ago, and and
and started built rebuilding that relationship with my with my kids,
and uh, Courtney and I are the emotional ones of
the family. You know, my wife and my other two
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kids are kind they're kind of more stoic. They're not
like being Courtney, where we wear our hearts on our sleeve.
We were more were I'll have a lot more compassion.
We feel other people's pain. So it's you know, that
was that was a tough episode. That was a tough episode. Wow,
but we we did. They showed a lot of us
and I got so much feedback afterwards, which I'm very
grateful for. But yeah, what an episode.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay you say, oh no, I mean I just think
like us in our story, in our background was like
a really also big motivating factor for us to come
do this together. Like I know, for a lot of
people it was like, let's just have fun, but for us,
it was really like, well, let's bond and let's make
up for lost time because like you said, he was
(29:06):
always in my life, like always there, but he wasn't
very present. So I feel like we missed out on
a lot of memories and other things. And I mean
being able to have this experience like this once in
a lifetime experience together was just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And so as an attic and an alcoholic, it's a
self centered disease. It's all about me, me, me, when
dad should be all about the kids and the wife.
So for all of their lives, it was it was
for me. It was all about me, me, me, You
know what am I getting? It's in it for me.
So by when I got sober eight and a half
years ago, it was a way for me to start saying,
it's all about the family. So by going on the
(29:45):
by going on the show, we did so much, We
went to London a couple of times. We just did
so much, and it's oh God, and then the see
are gonna eliminated? It literally just it killed me. It
literally killed me because I wasn't expecting it. Listen, I knew.
I knew that both of us it would come down
to one of us win winning a million dollars or
and or or both of us going home. And I
(30:07):
knew at some point we'd either be against each other
or one of us when are you going home? And
I always wanted it to be me first. I didn't
want I wanted Courtney to win everything. And and you know,
we were talking to a lot of the contestants. I said, listen,
if I win, you know, Colleen and I are pretty
much set in life, most of the money's gonna go
to Courtney or a new family. Courtney said, if she wins,
she'll buy me a new car.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, thanks, I did not promise you a car, watch.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
She said, So I'm saying I I'm gonna get her
most of the money. If she wasn't gonna buy me
a watch, that's, you know, funny. But I wasn't expecting
because she was killing it and they weren't showing her
on the challenges because she was killing all the challenges.
And then she got sent home on that challenge, man,
and it was just the wind. The wind were knocked
out of my sales.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Since you brought it up, should we talk about that challenge?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
We can't. Yeah, we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Let's let's let's talk about it because that's a difficult
one as well, because you have to have those sets
so perfectly for it to be able to go all
the way down the track.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, I mean, that one was. I didn't expect it
to be as difficult as it was. I think everybody's
mindset going into that challenge was it's going to be
about who's the first team to get all of their
dominoes up. I don't think people anticipated it taking so
many attempts to knock it down. So I think in
the beginning a lot of people were going for speed
(31:27):
as opposed to precision, and then everybody kind of had
to switch and realize that there was a very clear
like amount of space that would be allowed. And what
was so hard about that is even watching it back
and even thinking back, it's like, I think, if my
team had just pushed the dominoes a little bit harder,
we could have done it. Because you see these teams
(31:47):
do these big pushes and get a lot of momentum,
and you don't feel closure when you go out on
a team challenge because it's there's nothing that you personally did.
I mean, unless it was I guess your fault for
a team, but I feel like everybody on my team
worked so hard. Nobody is to blame, so it's like
it's it's just it's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I look at it a little different. I look at
it now as if you put each if you put
the dominoes close enough together, because because you'll see the
ones that they were faltering because a domino would fall
to the left or to the right and not hit
the one in front of it, no matter what. If
you put them close enough, whether it fell to the
right or to the left, it would at least nick
that one in front, and all of them would have
came down. But you know what, that's what it could
have should have who thought about it in real time?
(32:31):
We were just you know, we were actually thinking the opposite.
Place them farther apart, so you know, you would have
to do less or whatever, and they would you know,
But that's not what happened either.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It was just yea, you were also given a limited
amount of like blocks, so had you put them so
close together, nobody knew if you would get to like
this much left of your beam and realize that you
actually space them way too close, and then you would
have to redo the whole thing. Anyways, So hindsight, I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You saw people licking the bottom. We tried locking the bottom,
thinking that they would stay on the on the platform better,
you know, and it just turns out, you know, I'm
not sure if it was just dumb luck with everybody
or but I'll tell you when when when it was
down to Courtney and the White team, and the White
team pushed theirs and then it stopped midway through and
fell out. I was like, oh, Courtney teams got this,
(33:19):
and I know and I know they heard me playing
oh on TV. You can hear me say no, no, no,
please go no, please go? Oh man. That was just
so yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I also think going into every challenge, I'm always like, Okay,
this could be it, this could be it. But for
whatever reason, in that Domino Challenge, I was like, my
team is amazing, we can we can do this. And
I feel like that was almost like I should have
known from like how I was feeling almost like, oh
I got this, that that would have been the challenge
that I would have gone out on.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Of course, and then with me, I ended up on
the team with the guy that I got into an
argument with on the duct tape Challenge, which was Grant.
Granted Grant had made a comment to me about the
duct tape challenge and I got very, very angry, and
I think the camera probably didn't show the whole part
of what I said, but they showed most of what
I said. And then you know what, so when when
I he was on my Domino challenge. I'm like, I
got two ways to think about this. You know, it
(34:12):
could either stay mad or you know what, we can
embrace each other's teammates and get it done, and we did.
We embrace each other's steammates and we got it done.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You have to find a way to make it work.
But yes, as you said, the team challenge has to
be the hardest way to go out because, as you said,
most of the time it's a whole team effort, and
unless there's one individual person that flops or something, it's
really just down to everyone that you're there with, right.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And then with that too, I mean having like the
team that I did, Like it was a lot of
people going out that so tough, Ritchie and Gianna splitting up.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yes, and they are awesome. I mean, listen, I can
sit there and say every person we met was awesome.
But you know, forty and I bonded to certain people
a little bit better than in the green room. Richie
and g we're one of them, you know, we're.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Pre We had like a family. Yeah, like because you
when you were there with like family and.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
They called me dad, I got offended. But because I
like to think I'm still young, but I got to
face the fact that I'm fifty eight years old, you
know what I'm saying. And they called me Dad, and
you know, it was just a really awesome movie.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The really good people definitely, And you see that too
when people are rooting for others from the sideline, the
one that you call the bottom feeders are still in
the competition, and then there's those side groups that are
all together. But what I found awesome was everyone was
rooting for somebody. Somebody was always getting cheered on by
a group.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Right, Yeah, that was like that was such a nice
part too, because everybody clicked to somebody, Like everybody had somebody,
everybody had their group, and I think for the most part,
everybody cared for each other. So I mean, even if
you noticed that one person wasn't getting as much cheering
as the other person, then you would start cheering for
the other person because you wanted them to feel just
(35:55):
as much love as everybody else. So I think a
lot of people had that same idea of just let's
give everybody that which.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Started happening, and and you know, I'll give you a
quick example was Janis was the first person to be eliminated,
and and there was a pattern of of all ninety
nine people rushing to the center when Janis was eliminated
and shouting her name, Janie, Janis Jen which was awesome.
But what happened as quite a few games went on
was some people, you know, people that some people that
were loose. When it was down to two people, you know,
(36:27):
a lot of people would run in and cheer for
the person who won. And I had turned around, I mean,
I set out loud. I said, listen, guys, you know,
it's really you know what, it's bad enough that this
person feels bad that they're now going home, you make
them even feel worse by cheering the other person for winning.
You know, we should be uplifting the person who's going out,
regardless of who it is, you know, and and and
we kind of maintained that for the most part. But
(36:47):
people are gonna be people, right.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
And it's it's tough all around. But listen, I'm circling
back because I wasn't going to miss this. We are
going to hit the tape measure.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, uh my tape measure.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I was.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm gonna say, and I listen, I don't know anybody
can say this. My tape measure was broken. So I
was doing I did okay on the first Courtney was
out after like the second one second round, she was
done gone. I'm I'm like what Corney, you know and
funny thing. Well, I'll get back to this after So
I kept I was down to three and I kept
saying to the ref. I called Emily over. Emily was
(37:22):
the main ref. I said, listen, I'm stopping my tape
measure and it's still moving, and they were like they
kind of didn't believe me or whatever. Then everybody in
the save someone started yelling to them his tape measures busted.
So they gave me a new tape measure, and then
they let me do a round by myself without anybody
else involved with the with the round, and I still
didn't get it. I got it on the second try,
(37:43):
but that was when Michelle and Sarah were both involved
with it. That was very, very stressful for two reasons. One,
I'm breaking her heart on the sideline and she's hearing,
come on, Dad, you could do it, you could do it,
and I'm trying to block that out in my egg
because it's making me feel terrible. And two you know,
I know I'm going I'm close to going home. I
(38:03):
really didn't want to go home. I can accept the
fact to going home, but I can't accept the fact
of letting her down and that that's like the biggest
thing in this whole show for me. I felt like
let Courtney out in a way you did not for money,
but you know, because you know.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But I will say, I mean I feel like as
somebody who's there, like in a duo, I was more
stressed out, like when I would see him in the bottom,
because when it's yourself, you're in control of what you're doing.
And I can just see with every single retraction that
he's not getting it. His confidence is just vanishing, and
I'm like, he's going to get to a place where
(38:38):
he is just so down on himself that he's not
going to be able to get himself to like focus,
because I could see like just on his face, and
I'm like, I really did believe at that moment he
was going home.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
It was It was stressful. It was very stressful.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
The ones that have the repetitions are so stressful because
it's just over and over again, nothing's changing. It's the same,
You're seeing the same two love the same tape measure
coming at you.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh, what the hell's going on? I got it this time?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Whoa Oh very checking, very very challenging. Well, Courtney, unfortunately
we lost you at the dominoes, but your dad went
on to the next episode, and unfortunately that did not
last long either. And so we get this up for myself, Lauren, yes,
(39:33):
please please, all right.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So, so Courtney being eliminated. Okay, here's the deal. Courty
gets eliminated at the end of episode four. I get
eliminated at the end of episode five. What they don't
show is beginning of episode five. What they don't show
is before every episode, Ken Jong and Aaron would be
in the center of our circle and they would talk
to a few contestants. All right. At one moment, Ken
(39:56):
Jones called me and Courtney the heart and soul of
the show. Episode Three's like, you guys have heart and
soul the shoe you know, father daughter, Uh, you know
they've seen a lot of stuff. But I gave this pigs.
Courtney text me the night before because we're walking back
to the hotel room when she got eliminated, and I'm like, listen,
I'll throw the I'll loose tomorrow and you know, I'll
go home with you. I feel terrible and and and
she was very upset. So she sends me this text
(40:19):
that you know, only only if Dad can be proud of.
You know, I want you to go out and fight
for both of us. You know, I want you to,
you know, kick butt. So uh, I went to bed
and I'm uh. I gave that speech to Ken and
and Aaron and all whatever, forty eight other contestants, and
I said, you know what, I'm doing this for me
at Courtney and I'm kicking butt and I'll bring it
(40:39):
home that million. I gave a speech worthy of worthy
of John f. Jef, you know, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
But the fact of the matter is is I was
completely mentally defeated. And if you watch the episode that
I lost on, I was walking around dazed and confused.
I didn't have it in me. I just did it.
I just did it. It was and that gay was
a bully game. And I call it a bully because
the bigger guy could stand next to the smaller guy
(41:08):
and that bigger guy's catching the butterfly. Regardless he's the
bigger person, he's the stronger person. You know, what when
it came down to me, Miryama and and Marsha, I
probably could have done the same thing. But things happened
for a reason, and everything it works out to where
it is, and and that's the way it's going to be.
And you know, I just you know, if I had
a lot of dog left in my fight, I probably
would have stuck by one of them and stole that butterfly,
(41:31):
which was a thought in my head during the game.
But that's not That's not how I wanted to go out.
And I'm glad because I didn't know that she you know,
I didn't know that she suffers from a rare form
of mouth cancer, Marcia. So thank god I didn't bully
her and take take her out that way, because then
I would have been a villain of in America. So
I'm glad I went out the way I did. I
did feel like I let Courtney dal but you know,
(41:51):
my wife's like said, I let Courtney. I'm always like
a Quordian did what that billion dollars? You're more odd?
But she was the only kidding. You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Really didn't like Courtney down. I can tell you that,
I know I can see it. How proud she was
of you, And I just have to say for myself,
I was so incredibly blessed to see y'all play the game,
because you all did fantastic and I'm just happy that
you were able to go on and have that experience
together and we as America got to see your story.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Thanks Lauren, We appreciate that so much.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, I mean that's really honestly, at the end of
the day, like, yes, a million dollars, but to have
this experience truly felt priceless to us.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh yeah, I want something a lot more, a lot
more worth with that millionaire.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I think, who gets to say that they went on
a game show with their dad in London and you know,
and and to just see I mean, one of like
my favorite parts about it was just getting to see
how much all of the other contestants like just loved
my dad and embraced him and just embrace both of us,
I mean relationships that we formed.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
I eliminated, how many hugs I got, yep, and I
got to go to Jimmy Page's house.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Right, you gained so much for the experience and you
got to do it all together, and that's what matters most.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, and I got to be seen. You know, listen,
we we were the heart and soul of episode four.
Mm hmm. So my friends are texting me, you know, lamb,
why don't they Why don't they just call it the
Lance and Courtney Hallmark holler? You know, it's just And
then I got all, I got all that, all the
text for my you know, your big baby y'all would
have pushed that old lady over for a million dollars
and you know all this, you know, and they're the
only kidding around, they're my friends. But oh man, just
(43:29):
what a what a ribbon? I got? But it's all good.
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Is there anything else y'all would like to touch on
before we wrap it up here?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
No, Lauren, I appreciate you bringing us song like this.
This is awesome. We get you know, this actually furthers
my experience with Courtney and what we did on the show.
So I'm very grateful and I'm very humbled.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, we had a great time, and there's still so
many amazing people left to root for. We have no idea,
no one, so we're really excited to see the rest
of it play out. I mean, I'm rooting for pretty
much everybody. I'm super excited to see how it plays out,
and just we're so grateful for the experience, for the
teams that made it all happen. They were all amazing, so.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
People need to keep watching. Here's the funny thing, though,
Corney and I are watching the episodes after and we're like, listen,
we could have killed it those games.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, because we know the second you
get in there, it's it's completely.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Different, different, absolutely, and it's only going to ramp up
from here. Well, I just want to say again Lance
and Courtney, thank you so much for joining me on
the podcast today and everyone else be sure to check
out everything we go going on the Reality After Show.
I will be back with more ninety nine to Beat coverage,
more interviews, more episode recaps, and once again Lance and
(44:41):
Courtney thank you again.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Thanks La, peace out,
What's going on? We are back Reality after show and
we were hitting it with another ninety nine to beat interview,
and today I'm joined by two very special guests. We
have Lance, we have Courtney in the house. How are y'all?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want to be here, very happy to have y'all.
And I'm going to dive right in because I want
to know y'all's story. How did you get on the show?
What made you want to do this together?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Should I start? So? I mean, basically, I was just
scrolling TikTok one night and I came across a video
of one of the casting producers saying that they were
looking for duos who like adventure and travel. So I've
always wanted to be on some sort of competition show.
So I decided to apply, not thinking anything of it,
and they got back to me pretty immediately. I originally
(00:47):
applied to do the show with my fiance and then
we realized with our daughter it wouldn't work out. And
then I thought this guy was me for television, so
he would be a perfect fit.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And on my end, when when already asked me as
her dad, I was blown away that one of my
kids wants to do something like this with me, So
I said yes, and I gotta be honest, not really
expecting we would get chosen. I mean out of one
hundred thousands of people that applied. I'm like, yeah, of
course I'll do it with you, thinking there's no way.
And before you knew it, we had done an interview,
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contracts were signed, and we were off to London. I
was already in, so I was all in, no matter what. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
How excited y'all when you found out it was filming
in London?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I was super excited about that. That was definitely a
huge bonus to me because I had never been to
Europe before, and I know for Europe. For him, he's
very into like history and just all that kind of stuff.
Jimmy Page apparently has a house in London, so that
was like a really big expert.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
For those of you who don't know, Jimmy Page is
the guitar player and the led Zeppelin, the greatest rock
band of all time. And Courtney actually talked me into
go into his house and take pictures in front, which
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you got more out of it then you thought
you were going to get with it being filmed.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Out this was when we got out of it more
than anything. And I'm just I'm listen. As far as
I'm concerned, I walked away the biggest winner.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Absolutely. I mean it's an incredible experience no matter how
you finish, because you just see the impact in the
relationships that people are able to build with each other there.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean I didn't expect to
bond so quickly with ninety eight other contestants. I mean
I was expecting to, you know, like some people hit
it off with them, but like the way, I mean,
if you see the background of most scenes, like I'm
just crying when they're like down to the last two people,
it's because you truly don't want to see anybody go
home because you know that everybody deserves to be there
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and everybody's there for a good reason. So and that
was after like knowing them for like twenty four hours.
So it's honestly crazy. We say trauma bonded and it
really yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, it's you know what you're you're filming fourteen to
sixteen hours a day, so you really get to know
each other. You get to know every person there, and
it just it's overwhelming how close you become with everybody,
and how sad it is when you leave, I mean,
whether you win or lose. You know, I'm sure the
winner was sad that they left. I mean, I'm sure
they're glad they won a million bucks, but I'm sure
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that they you know, it's sad that that they had
to leave because the bonds that they agreed with everybody, Well,
it was amazing. Who knew?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, did y'all two go to the premier party that
happened in New York?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We did? Yeah, I actually flew because he lives in Connecticut,
so just quick train ride into the city, so I
flew from Florida so I could go because just an
opportunity to see everybody, and I mean premier party in
the city sounded really fun and it was a great time.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because what it sounded like about half of y'all were
able to make it up to that.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, people traveled from all over I mean, Gabe traveled
in as far as from London to be there. So
it was so cool to see how many people California like,
all over the place.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And they turned up all right. It was it was
quite the party.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's great. And so what is Girl's reality television background
before coming onto the show.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I would say, I mean, I'm really into it as
like a really big fan. We actually, well know, we
got started together when I was really young watching Big
Brother together. That was like our thing. I remember being
like six years old and getting to stay up past
my bedtime anytime Big Brother was on. So I was
like all for it, and then he kind of stopped watching,
but I just got more into it. So really our
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experience or my experience, is just being a really big fan.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Courtney's huge into reality shows, all of them, and she's
got a little thing on TikTok where she discusses all
you know, she watches, you know, religiously every week, every
single reality show on TV, and she gives her her
insight to a lot of different topics throughout the week
on her on her on her TikTok page, which is
pretty cool. Me, like I said, I grew up on
Survivor and Big Brother kind of go out of it
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a little bit. You know, it's you know, it is
what it is. But you know that's to the extent
of my experience.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
With it, Survivor, Big Brother, the classics, so you can't
go wrong there. Yes, and so then you find yourselves.
You're there and they tell you that you're playing for
a million dollars, which you didn't know going into it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I mean, it took me a long time to
realize that he wasn't joking. I thought when Ken first
announced it, he was trying to get a big reaction
out of us, just to be like, oh, just kidding
I And then I still after that, I really couldn't
believe it until I realize everybody around me was like,
oh my god, and I'm like, wait, this is actually
a million dollars. It changed everything.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I mean, one hundred thousand dollars in America after taxes
is not that much, but a million dollars is a
complete game changer. I mean it would change anybody's life,
and hopefully for the better.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, right, the stakes can't be any higher than
when they make that announcement because then you're jumping right
into that first game, so you just have to be
like heart pumping, being like crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, that was probably the hardest part of everything, is
you go into these challenges and you're adrenaline takes over
and as much as you tell your mind, like I
only have to beat ninety nine other people. Your body's
just shaking uncontrollably no matter what you do. It is
so hard to kind of get yourself out of that
mental state of like, oh my god, it's this or
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it's nothing and I'm going home. So that was really tough.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, and you can look at it this way too.
They're very easy games, but compounded by the fact that
it's a million dollars and then if you finish last,
you've got no shot at it, it gets very very hard.
They all get very hard, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, you see even as well it's simple games you
could do at home, and people say, oh, I can
do that, but then when you're actually in the moment,
you see so many people their hands are literally shaking
like crazy and they can't settle themselves down.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, that anxiety made just everything a million times harder.
And then you would start to see people finish before you,
and even if it was like one or two, people
are like, I'm so far off, like I'm never gonna
get this. Why did they get it so fast? And
what's wrong with me that I can't get it? So
that was really tough, especially when you ended up down
towards the bottom of challenges it was like things just
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became so much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, we call them the bottom feeders, the ones that
were like third and you know, third and fourth, the
third and fourth people left in a game, you know,
and uh, when we're calling the bottom feeders, and then
you know, like some people kept finding themselves almost almost eliminated.
And I mean that must have been so stressful on
that person alone, you know, because I experienced it once.
They're in the tape measure, the tape measure contest, and
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it was just I can only imagine I went through
it once. I can imagine somebody going through it three
or four times. Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh, we will get to the tape measure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We will.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We will definitely be getting to the tape measures for sure.
But I want to talk episode one, some of those games.
What was Yall's favorite game and what was your least
favorite game?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I would say of episode one, I really liked the
balloon because I was in and out and like after
two pops, and I felt like that one I wasn't
as well. I was nervous for that, but you're not
overtaken by like shakes because you're just running at whereas
like with the Pasta, it was very precise and my
mouth was shaking, and I felt like that one was
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really difficult, whereas the balloon one was hard in the
sense that you were nervous, but not hard in the
sense of like completing it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I think my favorite was the war challenge. That was
my favorite. My least favorite was the ice You know,
I had a different strategy than everybody else, So I figure,
your feet are the hottest part of your body. So
I took a sock off, I put it on the ground,
I put the ice on top of it, and then
what I did was I rubbed my foot back and
forth along the along the ice cube to melt the ice.
And then I realized when I was rubbing it on
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my face, I was probably disgusting thing to do because
my foot was just on it. But it worked pretty good,
you know, and I think I tipped a part of
my tooth. But to me, the water challenge was it
was the funnest. Then it was the best for me.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So y'all we were on separate teams right for the
water challenge.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yes, yeah, so I was actually in the bottom two
teams in my heat. We were into completely separate heats
and my team was one of the last teams and
Julian was on the other team and his ball got
stuck and we see him shaking it and shaking it,
So that actually bought us enough time to get it.
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Given that his ball was stuck. I don't think we
would have finished before them had it just popped right up.
So I mean that kind of came down to my
team getting really lucky because that was a really difficult challenge.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We were pretty safe in that game. We had we
had Jake. Jake was our feeder, Like he said that
he was the last one to feed the tubes and
Jake was the perfect height to where all he had
to do is just bend his neck over and it
whi it just went right in. Was it was a good,
good move for us.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
What was y'all strategy going into that challenge? Because if
that's the very first team challenge that we see, so
not everyone that you get with you're going to know.
So there's going to be people that you might not
have spoken to yet.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, personally, I got to talk to a few people
in the green I'll call it the green room. Melissa
was a coach. Melissa's coach of women's football on California
Melissa was on our team, So what I did was
I had her like just be the voice of direction
for everybody else and then we kind of all agreed
on the places, the places where you know, each placement
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of each person, and then she was a great coach
and ended up working out really good to our favor.
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, we had Philip Snyder from the Wagner family. He
kind of really took control on that and he did
a really good job organizing us based on where we
said we would be comfortable. I think some teams might
have went into that doing like height base because they
thought it would be easier going tallest to shortest, but
we wanted to go Sarah had back surgery after the show,
so she couldn't bend as much, so they had me
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stand right in front of her because I was the
shortest on the team. So we tried to play to
everybody's strengths as opposed to just highte order and.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A footnote on that. Philip Wagner Wagner great family. Yeah,
him and his wife, awesome job with their kids, and
they're just really really good, really good people, really good people.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
What was your reaction when you found out a family
of twelve was in the competition.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
So I'm gonna be honest with you. I was. I wasn't.
I wasn't turned off by it at all. I was
only turned off by it once you went through six
or seven of the competitions and they're all still there,
because now you're starting to think, you know what, there's
now they have twelve chances of this million dollars and
we've only got one of, you know, two chances. But
I mean everybody else was thinking the same thing. You know,
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not we have to take the snyders out, but we
have to take the snighters out, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I think too. One of the things is, I mean
I can play Devil's advocate a little bit here as
somebody who came in with a duo. A lot of
people thought that it gave you more of a chance
of winning. But the feeling of seeing your family member
towards the bottom and like knowing like the stress of
like getting through for yourself, but also feeling that stress
for at least with me and my dad was just
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I felt like it was so so intense. So I
feel like they were probably feeling that on like a
very large scale because they had so many people to
worry about. So I can see both ways how people
would see it as an advantage because you have more
people strategizing and helping you, but also more people kind.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Of yeah, but when it all boils down to it,
only one person's gonna come out. You know, only one
person's gonna end up no matter what, someone's gonna lose. Well,
rategize in million different ways, and you can have twelve
people in your family, but eventually only one of them
people are gonna win. So whether you end up down
to the last two people, and if it's Sue Snyder's,
unfortunately one of them is gonna lose. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And then with the Wagner family, that's why we didn't
see them in episode one because I kept hearing family
of twelve and I'm sitting there, where's the family of twelve?
I have no idea who's with who because they didn't
plug them in until episode two.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Mm h.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And speaking of episode two, let's talk a little bit
about that. What games were y'all into? Which one's not
so into?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Episode two? Oh, music challenge was an episode two. It
was I'll say this a million times, I would do
any challenge a million times over before I would ever
want to do the Music Challenge again. That was, wow,
probably one of the hardest things I've ever done. It
was just the like the fear of being blindfolded with
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all that noise, and I felt like we ended up
being on the same team, but you don't know who
your team is obviously until you find each other in
the challenge. And I felt like our instrument, which was
the xylophone, was one of the quieter ones, so all
I heard was those like whistle things. I don't know
what they're called, but they were so loud, and it
was like, until all those teams started getting out, we
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couldn't really hear each other. And you see in that episode,
I'm always crying, but I'm crying because I think that
we're out, like crying through my blindfold because I can't
hear a lot of other instruments because it's all the
quiet instruments left, and I'm thinking we're the last team.
And that challenge was by far my worst challenge of
the entire competition.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I couldn't see anything. Some people said they could see
a little bit of light through, but I could not see.
It was pitch black, and some somebody just grabs me,
and and and and when I you know, when they
grabbed me, I felt there's elophone, so I knew it
was the same the same person. That had to be
one of the most stressful things I've ever been through.
And listen, I've been through recovery. That was stressful. You're blindfolded,
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it's dark, you all your senses are gone except for
your sense of hearing, and that's thrown off because you're
hearing eight different instruments. And it literally you could see
people in tears when their blindfolds came off because it
was such a mentally stressful challenge. Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I know in the UK version, I want to
say they did that with like thirty people, but we
did it with eighty one people, So I mean that
it was just complete chaos.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, it was a big cluster foot well, and you're
sitting there waiting to receive your instruments, so that takes
a ton of time in itself as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, you're standing there, all your senses cut off, with
your hands out, just waiting for them to give it,
and you're praying that you get one of the instruments
that are a little bit louder. And then second I
got that instrument. I was like, oh, we're done.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, you're stressed off because you see people get sacked
little saxophones and you're like, well it's easy for them,
or the people with the bottom the drum, Oh, it's
easy for them. They're gonna hear that more than anything.
We had xylophones. You know, you could you could whistle
loud over a xylophone. I mean it was you know right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It makes it hard because I said that too, watching
and I go, there's some very uneven instruments that have
been handed out. There's some you have the hard ones
I would consider, there was the middle of the road
ones and then the super easy ones because you're really
at a disadvantage if you have an instrument where you
have to utilize both hands. If you can just utilize
one hand and then start grabbing people, it's much easier.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, and here's another challenges. You don't know who your
team is. You have no clue who's on your team.
I didn't know me and Courtney were on my team.
Courtney said, Dad, I knew it. Go ahead, so you
tell her.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, so they would have to stop the challenge while
we were doing it. When you would get a grouping
together so that they could just count and make sure
that you had all your people before they would let
you go on their way. So when it would stop,
it would be complete silence. And I just hear my
dad like, and I'm like, oh my god, my dad's
on my team. So I start feeling around and I
can like feel that it's my dad's sure, and I'm like,
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oh my god, I'm on the same team as my dad.
And I'm like, oh god, we're both going home.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And it was just yeah, because you're not supposed to
you're not supposed to even say a word.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, you couldn't speak at all. But I could tell from.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
His head my breathing, my breathing, my ceop breathing, my
sepet breathing. That's YO.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Anyway to figure out that's the way that it works.
But I want to talk about the potato challenge. Were
y'all partnered up for that or did you choose?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? We were.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, that was actually a pretty fun one.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Corney plays cornhole cornhole and Corney's herner fiance are amazing
at it, so I knew the matter or what she'd
be able toss me the potato she actually I could
hold my fork up and the first two she literally
hit my fork, but I didn't know how to stick it.
On the third one, I figured out how to stick it.
But she was on point. And that's why you didn't
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see a lot of us in the first three episodes.
I think because because I think that we were finishing
pretty decently, you know. But yeah, she was. She killed
it on the potato challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's what I was saying. They did that with a
ton of people. Sometimes you don't see them until certain
episodes because that's when they start ended up being on
the bottom. So I told people, I said, well, you
got a ton of screen times, such as Michelle for example.
I said, Michelle, listen, you had some close calls and
some of those challenges that you were in.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, she was awesome, though, I mean, to get through,
like when you're in the bottom, is to get over
that mental like that's so division.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She's a competitor boy. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh you could see it in this episode five with
the whole boat situation. Just the same face reaction the
entire time and no change whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah. Oh, that was that was an interesting one to watch.
That was that was tough. I feel like the boats
were so like, yeah, couldn't predict how they were going
to move, And Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
One would have been very frustrating challenges because as the
viewer watching and I said, oh man, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, because even I'm sure within the studio, you know,
like they have like the airflow, like there's other factors
that are probably like inadvertently playing kind of a role.
I feel like that was kind of the case with
a lot of things, like even like the ice block challenge,
like people's placement of the whistle, Like nothing is ever
going to be one hundred percent the same playing field
for everybody, because it just wouldn't be possible.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, Like the T shirt challenge was wow?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I believe was that episode two three?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Episode Yeah? Episode two was the T shirt Challenge episode Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That Wow? Wow? Was I only got lucky on that
because I saw a Bethany pick up mine and I
just happened to be standing five feet away from her,
and I saw her throw it down and I just
kind of thought I saw my name, and I sure
enough I pick it up it on my call, thank god,
and it courty Actually it too courty a little bit
longer to find hers on that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I would say it was pretty low to the
bottom bottom ten on that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
One, and that wasn't a bottom feet er, but she
was pretty close.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, I was shocked with that challenge with the person
that did the flip into the circle. That was insane.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah right, I think somebody also got King David got
like an injury. Yes, it's complete chaos. People were like
piling into.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
That, like just diving, and they told they told everybody
don't do stupid stuff into the circle, and you know,
some people just don't listen. And somebody got an eye
knocked out, you know, like a black eye or whatever,
and just you know me, I could barely run anyway,
so I kind of waddled into the circle like I
waddled into the blue circle.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, the flips of screen time grab her. That's what
it is at the end of the day, because who
was expecting someone to do a back or a front
flip into the circle? That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's like exalt and uh, you know, bouncing on
his butt. It's a screen time thing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know, whatever works for people if it gets you
your screen time that you're looking for. Hey, I mean
I learned about King David that he was on a
show before Are You the One? And I didn't know that,
and I watched that show and I go, I don't
remember you because you never got screen time.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He was also on a Let's Make a Deal, right Yeah,
but I don't I don't know the premise of that show.
But yeah, he had like a cameo on that show
as well.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So if I remember correctly, he was dressed like a cow.
If I remember correctly, yeah, I know what show.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I know the show.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And again, he was arrogant on that show. But listen,
that's who he is and he's a great guy. I
got to I got to have breakfast with him, uh,
just me and him, one on one, and he opened
up and I understand. You know who he is and
what he's about, and I think he's a really great guy.
I really do. Just misunderstood by a miracle right now.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Well, I wouldn't even say that necessarily. I think some
people get it and some people don't. But here's the thing.
That's what you want on TV because there's people you
want to see their demise you're rooting for. When is
the demise coming?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Right? America? Wats a villain and they want a hero,
correct and if you're either one, you know what, you're
gonna get ratings for yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh absolutely, you definitely will. But let's dive in a
little bit to episode three with some of the games.
I want to talk about the bowling team challenge where
y'all split up on that one as well.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We were we were, Yeah, I don't think we were
in the same heat for that one right either.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I think we were only on one team challenge together
and that would that was the instrument challenge.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Thoughts on the bowling one.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I didn't really mind that one that much. I had
James Arvind, Danny Lee, and I think somebody else on
that team, and we did pretty well. I mean that
one was all about staying calm, and I feel like
my team did a really good job of just like
focusing in and when we dropped it, we would just
put it back up and what we weren't frantic and
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I and I really enjoyed working with all of those people.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So if you were slightly nervous on that challenge, then
you were going to actually do bad for your team
because you know, everybody had their strategy, which was the
same strategy it's get in front of the next guy
and make sure his his uh, his gutters on top
of yours and and just keep the flow going. And
the ones that were nervous and that we were freaking
out were the ones that were kind of you know,
having the ball get dropped or it was a fairly
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not easy challenge it was. It was. Yeah, actually it
wasn't that easy, but it we we got through pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Such a huge teamwork challenge that one is. And what
I enjoyed about it was you couldn't constantly have the
same person as the last person trying to get it
to hit the pins. I enjoyed that they made it
switch up the lineup because I think then it makes
it a little bit more difficult and other people have
to then step up.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I liked that aspect as well too, because if you
had somebody on your team who wasn't going to be
as great at aiming, I feel like all of my
teammates were. We were pretty evenly. I mean, I would
say Arvind was probably our strongest person that we would
have continuously do it, but if we had to choose,
but it is nice that everybody got the chance. That's
a lot of pressure for one person too, if you
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have your whole team relying on you to just knock
down all the pins.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I mean, listen, if you got good aim, you're gonna
knock a lot of the pins down. And then because
you were pretty close to the line of being able
to get, you know, to release the ball to your
set of pins, I think it should have been at
least five or six feet further back to make it
a little bit harder because people literally were throwing it
and it was knocking pins now. But listen, we got
through it, so I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Complaining, exactly. You can't complain when it works out in
your favor.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Definitely, not right, you're right, You're right. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I want to get to my personal favorite game so
far in the entire competition, and that is the dancing
disc challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A lot of people like that. That was that was
a fun one, but that was for us. We ended
up towards the bottom on that because they just could
not get the rhythm, like for whatever reason. I mean,
our strategy going into it was, hey, you're gonna lay
on the floor and you're not gonna move because my
dad does not have any rhythm. So I'm like there's
(24:27):
you have a lot of rhythm. He doesn't now, and
so I'm like, you know, you just lay there, let
me do all the work.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And that was funny. And it was funny because you
see shots at Courtney while they're showing James and other people.
You see short Courtney in the back and one of
them are hips for shaking, another one she's jumping up
and down, and I'm just laying on the ground trying
to get the freaking dish to get to me. And
then's finding out that by just swinging it in a
circle that it actually goes faster. So we found that
(24:56):
out towards the end of our ore being finished, and
Courtey actually started spinning it when it actually came to us.
But people that knew that were out within within a
minute and a half, you know, a minute.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, Like Tommy and David did amazing that one, seeing
how they just like moved together and their thing was
just in a continuous like a jump rope. Then that's
when we realized we need to completely change what we've done.
But then finding that rhythm once you knew you had
to do that was a whole different story.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
So and it was tough seeing Gabe because Gab Gabe
was at one of the bottoms. They were on one
of the bottom teams. It was tough seeing that, but
he had the kind of same strategy we did. A
Will was so tall, so Will stood up, game laid
down and kind of like we're doing what we were doing.
But you know, it was just that that was a
sad one too, because husband and wife and I think
(25:46):
Courney and I only drove. I think we did it
because I don't think we understood that if we were on,
if we were the last team, one of us were
going home no matter what. Come to think about it, now,
if we if I knew that, I would have been like, yo,
we have to be on separateees no matter what, because
other one of us is going on if we're the
last team, you know right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I was curious with some people why they chose to
stay together and then decided to split, because we have
seen for instance, with the Wagner family it was with
the Potato Challenge two of them split off and had
different partners.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, I feel like with me it was more of
just like a who do I trust the most and
who am I going to be able to like communicate
with or you know, and I felt like my dad
would do a really good job of like switching things
up if he needed to, or telling me if I'm
doing something wrong. Whereas when you're working with somebody else,
like obviously in the heat of the moment, you might
be able to communicate better. But like you don't want
(26:39):
to think that you have to like yell at someone
or have someone yell at you, or you just don't
get along. So I feel like it's just for me,
it was easier.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I'm used. I'm used to getting yelled at, so it's okay.
But I mean the sameles just like is the potato
challenge the last If you're the last team in the
potato challenge, you two both have to go against each
other and pick somebody to throw it. So again, a
lot of teams picked each other, you know, families for
each other. I picked her because I knew we would
get that potato challenge like that, I knew that was
that was a cinch, you know, right.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It all depends on the amount of trust that you
have with someone else. And then also I believe too,
when you're in that heat of the moment, it's really
hard to think, oh should we actually split off from
each other or is it just easier to stay together.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, and then when you see everybody probably assumes that
you won't break off from your person anyway, so they're
kind of already looking for somebody else. So it just
felt like that was kind of like the natural flow
of things, is that the people who knew each other
were gonna be together.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And I think they looked at me at Courtney's having
a really good father Vader relationship, so they, you know,
kind of and I guess they took it for granted
that we automatically would bear up, you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Know, definitely for sure. Now let's go into episode four
where we finally get to know both of y'all a
little bit more. You guys pop up and we get
a little bit of your story as well in the
confessional that they chose to provide.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Listen, I wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm a
recovered addict. You know. I wasn't an abusive dad, and
I was there for their child, and I just was.
I was there in the house when I wasn't mentally there.
And I got sober almost nine years ago, and and
and started built rebuilding that relationship with my with my kids,
and uh, Courtney and I are the emotional ones of
the family. You know, my wife and my other two
(28:22):
kids are kind they're kind of more stoic. They're not
like being Courtney, where we wear our hearts on our sleeve.
We were more were I'll have a lot more compassion.
We feel other people's pain. So it's you know, that
was that was a tough episode. That was a tough episode. Wow,
but we we did. They showed a lot of us
and I got so much feedback afterwards, which I'm very
grateful for. But yeah, what an episode.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay you say, oh no, I mean I just think
like us in our story, in our background was like
a really also big motivating factor for us to come
do this together. Like I know, for a lot of
people it was like, let's just have fun, but for us,
it was really like, well, let's bond and let's make
up for lost time because like you said, he was
(29:06):
always in my life, like always there, but he wasn't
very present. So I feel like we missed out on
a lot of memories and other things. And I mean
being able to have this experience like this once in
a lifetime experience together was just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And so as an attic and an alcoholic, it's a
self centered disease. It's all about me, me, me, when
dad should be all about the kids and the wife.
So for all of their lives, it was it was
for me. It was all about me, me, me, You
know what am I getting? It's in it for me.
So by when I got sober eight and a half
years ago, it was a way for me to start saying,
it's all about the family. So by going on the
(29:45):
by going on the show, we did so much, We
went to London a couple of times. We just did
so much, and it's oh God, and then the see
are gonna eliminated? It literally just it killed me. It
literally killed me because I wasn't expecting it. Listen, I knew.
I knew that both of us it would come down
to one of us win winning a million dollars or
and or or both of us going home. And I
(30:07):
knew at some point we'd either be against each other
or one of us when are you going home? And
I always wanted it to be me first. I didn't
want I wanted Courtney to win everything. And and you know,
we were talking to a lot of the contestants. I said, listen,
if I win, you know, Colleen and I are pretty
much set in life, most of the money's gonna go
to Courtney or a new family. Courtney said, if she wins,
she'll buy me a new car.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, thanks, I did not promise you a car, watch.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
She said, So I'm saying I I'm gonna get her
most of the money. If she wasn't gonna buy me
a watch, that's, you know, funny. But I wasn't expecting
because she was killing it and they weren't showing her
on the challenges because she was killing all the challenges.
And then she got sent home on that challenge, man,
and it was just the wind. The wind were knocked
out of my sales.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Since you brought it up, should we talk about that challenge?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
We can't. Yeah, we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Let's let's let's talk about it because that's a difficult
one as well, because you have to have those sets
so perfectly for it to be able to go all
the way down the track.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, I mean, that one was. I didn't expect it
to be as difficult as it was. I think everybody's
mindset going into that challenge was it's going to be
about who's the first team to get all of their
dominoes up. I don't think people anticipated it taking so
many attempts to knock it down. So I think in
the beginning a lot of people were going for speed
(31:27):
as opposed to precision, and then everybody kind of had
to switch and realize that there was a very clear
like amount of space that would be allowed. And what
was so hard about that is even watching it back
and even thinking back, it's like, I think, if my
team had just pushed the dominoes a little bit harder,
we could have done it. Because you see these teams
(31:47):
do these big pushes and get a lot of momentum,
and you don't feel closure when you go out on
a team challenge because it's there's nothing that you personally did.
I mean, unless it was I guess your fault for
a team, but I feel like everybody on my team
worked so hard. Nobody is to blame, so it's like
it's it's just it's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I look at it a little different. I look at
it now as if you put each if you put
the dominoes close enough together, because because you'll see the
ones that they were faltering because a domino would fall
to the left or to the right and not hit
the one in front of it, no matter what. If
you put them close enough, whether it fell to the
right or to the left, it would at least nick
that one in front, and all of them would have
came down. But you know what, that's what it could
have should have who thought about it in real time?
(32:31):
We were just you know, we were actually thinking the opposite.
Place them farther apart, so you know, you would have
to do less or whatever, and they would you know,
But that's not what happened either.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It was just yea, you were also given a limited
amount of like blocks, so had you put them so
close together, nobody knew if you would get to like
this much left of your beam and realize that you
actually space them way too close, and then you would
have to redo the whole thing. Anyways, So hindsight, I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You saw people licking the bottom. We tried locking the bottom,
thinking that they would stay on the on the platform better,
you know, and it just turns out, you know, I'm
not sure if it was just dumb luck with everybody
or but I'll tell you when when when it was
down to Courtney and the White team, and the White
team pushed theirs and then it stopped midway through and
fell out. I was like, oh, Courtney teams got this,
(33:19):
and I know and I know they heard me playing
oh on TV. You can hear me say no, no, no,
please go no, please go? Oh man. That was just
so yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I also think going into every challenge, I'm always like, Okay,
this could be it, this could be it. But for
whatever reason, in that Domino Challenge, I was like, my
team is amazing, we can we can do this. And
I feel like that was almost like I should have
known from like how I was feeling almost like, oh
I got this, that that would have been the challenge
that I would have gone out on.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Of course, and then with me, I ended up on
the team with the guy that I got into an
argument with on the duct tape Challenge, which was Grant.
Granted Grant had made a comment to me about the
duct tape challenge and I got very, very angry, and
I think the camera probably didn't show the whole part
of what I said, but they showed most of what
I said. And then you know what, so when when
I he was on my Domino challenge. I'm like, I
got two ways to think about this. You know, it
(34:12):
could either stay mad or you know what, we can
embrace each other's teammates and get it done, and we did.
We embrace each other's steammates and we got it done.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You have to find a way to make it work.
But yes, as you said, the team challenge has to
be the hardest way to go out because, as you said,
most of the time it's a whole team effort, and
unless there's one individual person that flops or something, it's
really just down to everyone that you're there with, right.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And then with that too, I mean having like the
team that I did, Like it was a lot of
people going out that so tough, Ritchie and Gianna splitting up.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yes, and they are awesome. I mean, listen, I can
sit there and say every person we met was awesome.
But you know, forty and I bonded to certain people
a little bit better than in the green room. Richie
and g we're one of them, you know, we're.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Pre We had like a family. Yeah, like because you
when you were there with like family and.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
They called me dad, I got offended. But because I
like to think I'm still young, but I got to
face the fact that I'm fifty eight years old, you
know what I'm saying. And they called me Dad, and
you know, it was just a really awesome movie.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The really good people definitely, And you see that too
when people are rooting for others from the sideline, the
one that you call the bottom feeders are still in
the competition, and then there's those side groups that are
all together. But what I found awesome was everyone was
rooting for somebody. Somebody was always getting cheered on by
a group.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Right, Yeah, that was like that was such a nice
part too, because everybody clicked to somebody, Like everybody had somebody,
everybody had their group, and I think for the most part,
everybody cared for each other. So I mean, even if
you noticed that one person wasn't getting as much cheering
as the other person, then you would start cheering for
the other person because you wanted them to feel just
(35:55):
as much love as everybody else. So I think a
lot of people had that same idea of just let's
give everybody that which.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Started happening, and and you know, I'll give you a
quick example was Janis was the first person to be eliminated,
and and there was a pattern of of all ninety
nine people rushing to the center when Janis was eliminated
and shouting her name, Janie, Janis Jen which was awesome.
But what happened as quite a few games went on
was some people, you know, people that some people that
were loose. When it was down to two people, you know,
(36:27):
a lot of people would run in and cheer for
the person who won. And I had turned around, I mean,
I set out loud. I said, listen, guys, you know,
it's really you know what, it's bad enough that this
person feels bad that they're now going home, you make
them even feel worse by cheering the other person for winning.
You know, we should be uplifting the person who's going out,
regardless of who it is, you know, and and and
we kind of maintained that for the most part. But
(36:47):
people are gonna be people, right.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
And it's it's tough all around. But listen, I'm circling
back because I wasn't going to miss this. We are
going to hit the tape measure.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, uh my tape measure.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I was.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm gonna say, and I listen, I don't know anybody
can say this. My tape measure was broken. So I
was doing I did okay on the first Courtney was
out after like the second one second round, she was
done gone. I'm I'm like what Corney, you know and
funny thing. Well, I'll get back to this after So
I kept I was down to three and I kept
saying to the ref. I called Emily over. Emily was
(37:22):
the main ref. I said, listen, I'm stopping my tape
measure and it's still moving, and they were like they
kind of didn't believe me or whatever. Then everybody in
the save someone started yelling to them his tape measures busted.
So they gave me a new tape measure, and then
they let me do a round by myself without anybody
else involved with the with the round, and I still
didn't get it. I got it on the second try,
(37:43):
but that was when Michelle and Sarah were both involved
with it. That was very, very stressful for two reasons. One,
I'm breaking her heart on the sideline and she's hearing,
come on, Dad, you could do it, you could do it,
and I'm trying to block that out in my egg
because it's making me feel terrible. And two you know,
I know I'm going I'm close to going home. I
(38:03):
really didn't want to go home. I can accept the
fact to going home, but I can't accept the fact
of letting her down and that that's like the biggest
thing in this whole show for me. I felt like
let Courtney out in a way you did not for money,
but you know, because you know.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But I will say, I mean I feel like as
somebody who's there, like in a duo, I was more
stressed out, like when I would see him in the bottom,
because when it's yourself, you're in control of what you're doing.
And I can just see with every single retraction that
he's not getting it. His confidence is just vanishing, and
I'm like, he's going to get to a place where
(38:38):
he is just so down on himself that he's not
going to be able to get himself to like focus,
because I could see like just on his face, and
I'm like, I really did believe at that moment he
was going home.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
It was It was stressful. It was very stressful.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
The ones that have the repetitions are so stressful because
it's just over and over again, nothing's changing. It's the same,
You're seeing the same two love the same tape measure
coming at you.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Oh, what the hell's going on? I got it this time?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Whoa Oh very checking, very very challenging. Well, Courtney, unfortunately
we lost you at the dominoes, but your dad went
on to the next episode, and unfortunately that did not
last long either. And so we get this up for myself, Lauren, yes,
(39:33):
please please, all right.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
So, so Courtney being eliminated. Okay, here's the deal. Courty
gets eliminated at the end of episode four. I get
eliminated at the end of episode five. What they don't
show is beginning of episode five. What they don't show
is before every episode, Ken Jong and Aaron would be
in the center of our circle and they would talk
to a few contestants. All right. At one moment, Ken
(39:56):
Jones called me and Courtney the heart and soul of
the show. Episode Three's like, you guys have heart and
soul the shoe you know, father daughter, Uh, you know
they've seen a lot of stuff. But I gave this pigs.
Courtney text me the night before because we're walking back
to the hotel room when she got eliminated, and I'm like, listen,
I'll throw the I'll loose tomorrow and you know, I'll
go home with you. I feel terrible and and and
she was very upset. So she sends me this text
(40:19):
that you know, only only if Dad can be proud of.
You know, I want you to go out and fight
for both of us. You know, I want you to,
you know, kick butt. So uh, I went to bed
and I'm uh. I gave that speech to Ken and
and Aaron and all whatever, forty eight other contestants, and
I said, you know what, I'm doing this for me
at Courtney and I'm kicking butt and I'll bring it
(40:39):
home that million. I gave a speech worthy of worthy
of John f. Jef, you know, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
But the fact of the matter is is I was
completely mentally defeated. And if you watch the episode that
I lost on, I was walking around dazed and confused.
I didn't have it in me. I just did it.
I just did it. It was and that gay was
a bully game. And I call it a bully because
the bigger guy could stand next to the smaller guy
(41:08):
and that bigger guy's catching the butterfly. Regardless he's the
bigger person, he's the stronger person. You know, what when
it came down to me, Miryama and and Marsha, I
probably could have done the same thing. But things happened
for a reason, and everything it works out to where
it is, and and that's the way it's going to be.
And you know, I just you know, if I had
a lot of dog left in my fight, I probably
would have stuck by one of them and stole that butterfly,
(41:31):
which was a thought in my head during the game.
But that's not That's not how I wanted to go out.
And I'm glad because I didn't know that she you know,
I didn't know that she suffers from a rare form
of mouth cancer, Marcia. So thank god I didn't bully
her and take take her out that way, because then
I would have been a villain of in America. So
I'm glad I went out the way I did. I
did feel like I let Courtney dal but you know,
(41:51):
my wife's like said, I let Courtney. I'm always like
a Quordian did what that billion dollars? You're more odd?
But she was the only kidding. You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Really didn't like Courtney down. I can tell you that,
I know I can see it. How proud she was
of you, And I just have to say for myself,
I was so incredibly blessed to see y'all play the game,
because you all did fantastic and I'm just happy that
you were able to go on and have that experience
together and we as America got to see your story.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Thanks Lauren, We appreciate that so much.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, I mean that's really honestly, at the end of
the day, like, yes, a million dollars, but to have
this experience truly felt priceless to us.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh yeah, I want something a lot more, a lot
more worth with that millionaire.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I think, who gets to say that they went on
a game show with their dad in London and you know,
and and to just see I mean, one of like
my favorite parts about it was just getting to see
how much all of the other contestants like just loved
my dad and embraced him and just embrace both of us,
I mean relationships that we formed.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
I eliminated, how many hugs I got, yep, and I
got to go to Jimmy Page's house.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Right, you gained so much for the experience and you
got to do it all together, and that's what matters most.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, and I got to be seen. You know, listen,
we we were the heart and soul of episode four.
Mm hmm. So my friends are texting me, you know, lamb,
why don't they Why don't they just call it the
Lance and Courtney Hallmark holler? You know, it's just And
then I got all, I got all that, all the
text for my you know, your big baby y'all would
have pushed that old lady over for a million dollars
and you know all this, you know, and they're the
only kidding around, they're my friends. But oh man, just
(43:29):
what a what a ribbon? I got? But it's all good.
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Is there anything else y'all would like to touch on
before we wrap it up here?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
No, Lauren, I appreciate you bringing us song like this.
This is awesome. We get you know, this actually furthers
my experience with Courtney and what we did on the show.
So I'm very grateful and I'm very humbled.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, we had a great time, and there's still so
many amazing people left to root for. We have no idea,
no one, so we're really excited to see the rest
of it play out. I mean, I'm rooting for pretty
much everybody. I'm super excited to see how it plays out,
and just we're so grateful for the experience, for the
teams that made it all happen. They were all amazing, so.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
People need to keep watching. Here's the funny thing, though,
Corney and I are watching the episodes after and we're like, listen,
we could have killed it those games.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, because we know the second you
get in there, it's it's completely.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Different, different, absolutely, and it's only going to ramp up
from here. Well, I just want to say again Lance
and Courtney, thank you so much for joining me on
the podcast today and everyone else be sure to check
out everything we go going on the Reality After Show.
I will be back with more ninety nine to Beat coverage,
more interviews, more episode recaps, and once again Lance and
(44:41):
Courtney thank you again.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Thanks La, peace out,
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