NFL Weekly Preview Show - Reality After Show - Week 11 - Reality After Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Watertown Whiskey presents Reality After Show's coverage of the NFL
Weekly Preview Show with Survivor Legend Johnny fair Play, Survivor
forty seven's Gayboard Teas and producer Bobby Goodspeed.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Ooh, hello there, wherever you're listening, however you're listening, joining
us on the Reality After Show YouTube channel live or
after the fact on the archived episode We love you
all the same. My name's gab or Te Survivor forty seven,
joined by producer Bobby Goodsbeak doing our NFL Weekly Preview
show that we do every single Wednesday here on the

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Reality After Show YouTube channel, breaking down all the upcoming
games for the NFL week we're heading in I can't
even believe it, Week eleven of the NFL. We are
well into the second half of the NFL season. Man,
it flies by second week of November right now, going
in to the third week for Week eleven, looking at
all the spreads of each game and giving you who

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we think is gonna cover the spread, who we should think,
who we think that you should stay away from, and
where the real money makers are. So Week eleven starts
tomorrow night with the New York Football Jets heading to
the af AFC East rivals.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
New England Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Now, this is a game that I normally would have
said is not very interesting. But the New York Jets
coming off their second win of the season, no Sauce,
no Quinn Williams, no problem for Aaron Glenn and his
New York Jets. They are twelve and a half point
underdogs going into Foxborough to take on Mike Rabral, Drake
May and the New England Patriots. Is there any hope

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here for the New York Jets now?

Speaker 4 (01:41):
There without Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Honestly, I think this team, you know, they played well
last week, you know, no sauce, Gardner, Like, it's just
no Quinn Williams. It was great to see them like
get a resurgence of energy after all that. Maybe maybe
that's saying something about those two guys, because uh that
they got to win right after that. I think the

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Patriots are one of the hottest, if not the hottest
team in the NFL right now. I like the twelve
and a half points spread. I think the Patriots absolutely
roll the Jets. I think the Jets was a fun
story against the Browns, but a lot of people do
it against the Browns. You know, I'm not taking any
credit away from them, but I think that there'll have
a little bit of a fall from grace against the

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Patriots this week.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I look at this Patriots team and I struggle with them.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I really struggle with them because they have it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
The vast majority of their schedule has been against awful teams,
like not even just like NAH teams, like awful teams
the Titans, the Cardinals, the Saints, like the Jets, these awful,
awful teams. But then they have two games where they
played legit teams in the Bills and in the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, and they won both of those games,

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and they were both very close games, but they won
both of those games. So I don't think it's fair
anymore to call the Patriots fools gold. I do wonder
how they will fare in the playoffs come January. Do
they have the juice, do they have the experience? Do
they have the talent to beat four great teams back

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to back to back? That is where I'm at on
the Patriots. I think that if they don't get the
one seed, they are a very easy wild card loss
to predict that.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's how I see their season going.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think they either get the one seed and they
lose in the divisional round, or they get the or
they get the second seed, or excuse me, the fourth
seed and they lose wild card weekend to whoever that
fourth seed is, maybe even the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
So I'm very intrigued to see how they end the season.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
But yeah, looking at this, twelve and a half points
is a lot of points, especially for a divisional game,
especially for a division Thursday night game. But it's hard
to bet against the Patriots, especially with the Jets team
that has lost pretty much all the remaining good players
left on their squad getting into the Sunday morning game.

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Another international game, it is going to be the Commander
is taking on the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Where are they playing. They're gonna be playing.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
In Spain at the Bernabout home of Real Madrid, the
Galacticos of Madrid, the capital of Spain.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I didn't even know that they were playing over there
this year. I thought Spain was next year. So I
look at this game, and this is a battle of
two bad teams. This is a battle of two broken teams.
These are two teams that are having seasons from hell.
I don't think that's an overstatement. The Commanders are really
having the season from hell. Not only have they regressed,

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but they have also lost their star quarterback in Jane
Daniels to a nasty arm injury, and the Miami Dolphins
look like they are all but out. They have fired
their GM after getting smacked around by the Baltimore Raven
on Primetime TV. They sent Jalen Phillips, who was one
of their premier pass rushers. He was a Dolphin, right,
I'm not making that up. Who was one of their

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premier pass rushers, even though he wasn't having a particularly
great season. They sent him to Philadelphia, where he is
finding a lot of success in the early days of
his new tenure with his new team. But two and
a half point spread for the International Real Madrid game
at the bernabout for the Commanders facing the Dolphins. The
Commanders are two and a half point underdogs in this one.

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Do you think that's a fair line?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Honestly, I think.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It is, Like this is gonna be a disgusting game,
and I feel bad that this is the game we
had to give Spain. Like this is probably one of
the grossest games I've seen in a while. And you're
not kidding, Like the Commanders are having an ultimate down year,
Like from going from the high of any NFC championship,
possibly even going to a Super Bowl to this season is.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Like night and day.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now, granted there's a lot of teams that's happening to
myself included, but it's not to the extent of what
I feel like the.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Commanders are going through.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I mean, hopefully Jayden Daniels gets healthy is able to
still play the season, but honestly kind of at the
point where it's like it does it even matter?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Does it even matter?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Like, what's your point?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
So I think that this is gonna be just an
ugly game.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I agree, I think this is going to be gross.
I think that this is going to be like a
classic preseason you were like, oh, this is gonna be
a great game to send overseas, and then now that
you actually get there, it's like, oh Jesus, like the
Four Spaniards. Once we get to the one pms, though,
I think the games really pick up. So the first
game on the slate is what I think is probably

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the best game of the week, and well, no there's
one game that might be the game of the season
in my opinion, but the best game of the one
PM slate at least is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers heading
to Buffalo to face off against the Bills. I think
this is a fascinating game. You have Tampa Bay, who
has looked really good, has probably been the most exciting

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team to watch. The best watch of the season I
think has been Tampa Bay. But they've been winning a
lot of games and losing some games that you probably
thought they were gonna win going into it. They're coming
off a loss to the New England Patriots. This is
a game I think they really really really not just
want to win, but maybe need to win. Looking at
this Bucks game, the Bucks are five and a half

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point underdogs to the Buffalo Bills, who will be hosting them,
both teams sitting at six and three. Before I get
into your prediction about how this game is going to go,
I'm curious which team between these two do you think
needs it more. The Bills are coming off a loss
to the Dolphins thirty to thirteen, a loss for the Bills.

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New England coming off a loss to the New England Patriots.
Like I just said twenty eight to twenty three. Who
needs this win more? Honestly, if I'm being real, I
think the Bills do. You just got humiliated by a
terrible Miami Dolphins team who absolutely ran the table against you.
I mean, I just I think this Bills team kind

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of got a reality check last week. I think a
lot of their offense was stagnant once Dalton Kincaid went
down with an injury. I think that Josh Allen looked
like a shell of himself for mostly through the entire game. Offensively,
they just couldn't get anything done. Like the fact that
Miami Dolphins were able to get a safety on Josh
Allen in that game is just wild to me.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I think that for everything that the Dolphins the Jets
like have gone through, like the Jets gotta win, the
Dolphins gotta win after trading away of a lot of
players at the deadline. It was just it's kind of
crazy how the NFL works, especially this season where there's
no front runners, there's no one like.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Running away with it. Every single week we give a
prediction like.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh, this team seems to be the hot team, and
I'm saying that about the Patriots and now watching the
Patriots get blown out by the Jets or for the
course with this season. So I really think the Bills
after getting humiliated against the division rival, granted at the
division rivals house, but that's still one you need to
pick up, I think that they need to get on

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their right foot, especially at home against the Buccaneers. I
think the Buccaneers, Yes, they had a loss last week,
but it was a close loss. They have a lot
of injuries right now. You know, their top two wide
receivers are still out. I think they'll be okay. They're
in a division where no one else is really going
to give them any fits in.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
That division, so I think they're all right.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Not to say, you know, the Bills don't have an
easier division, but the Patriots are number one in that
division right now, so they if they're going to keep
up with the Patriots, they have to get.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
A win here.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, And I look at the rest of the ASC
right because there are a lot of good teams, like
great teams that were used to winning their division that
could very well not win their division this season, and
your record becomes a lot more important when that happens.
And I don't know how big the gap between the
five seeds and the seventh seed is gonna be this year.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I mean, I look at the AFC.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You got the Patriots at eight and two, the Bills
at six and three, the Colts at eight and two,
the Broncos at eight and two, the Chargers at seven
and three.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Like, I mean, how many teams did I just name there? One, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
There's five teams right there that I just name. Two
of them are in the same division. So between the Bills,
the Patriots, the Broncos, and the Chargers, two of those
four teams are going to be in that five, six
or seventh spot. Yeah, And like, if I'm one of
those teams, I want to guarantee that I'm gonna be
in that five spot.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Like, I think that's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Now, granted, you're probably gonna have to come play Baltimore
in Baltimore, which is gonna be a ridiculously tough out
for any of those teams, regardless of who it is.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
But there's also a world.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Where maybe you have to go play Indianapolis, maybe you
have to go and play the AFC West team, Maybe
you have to go to Denver in my high and
play the Broncos, which is going to be a ridiculously
tough out. So I think that the seeding in those
wild card spots is going to be more important than
it's ever been before because a lot of really good

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teams are going to be wild card teams this year
and are are are going to be on the outside
looking in from those division winners.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
So I agree with you. I think the Bills really
need this one.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
And to your point, Gabe, at the beginning of the season,
if you would have told me that all three of
the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Ravens, not one of
them would be leading their division this far into the season,
I would have called you crazy. I would have been like,
there's no way at least one of those teams is
winning their division or leading their division. The Bills, the Ravens,

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and the Chiefs. Not one of them is leading their division.
That's wild it's insane.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I mean, those could be the three wild card teams
could be like that could be the seven, six and
five seed is the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Ravens,
the teams that for the last for the better part
of the last decade, have been leading the conference every
single year, and it's like who's going to win the.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Super Bowl or who's going to be the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Representative from the AFC out of those three teams, and
every single year it's the Chiefs. But I digress off
that point. So I look at this game five and
a half points. I actually really like the Bucks with
the points here, just because they don't get blown out.
I mean, they lost big to the Lions, lost by
five points to the Patriots, and lost by six points

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to the Eagles off of that career or no, that
was the Rams game where they got the kick six
at the end but lost by six points to the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Like, and they win all their other games, they.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Don't get blown out, so I don't think it's outside
the rum of possibility for them to go win this game.
I actually really like them mL. I like the value
that they have at mL. Right now sitting at let
me pull it up DraftKings loves to kick me out
of the on screen for some reason. But right now
sitting at plus two oh five for Baker Maye Field

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in the Bucks to go into Buffalo and win, Like,
I don't hate the odds there to be honest, but
on the spread, who do you like five and a
half points in favor of the Bills.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean, I like the Bills. I like the Bills.
I think the Bills get it done at home. I
think they're a different team at home. I just I
think even with the injury to Kincaid, I think that
they'll be able to get it done with the run game.
I think that it will be Josh Allen, especially with
what he can do mobilely as a quarterback. I think

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that the Bills are gonna get right in this game.
And I think the five and a half points is fair.
I think they probably won't by a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Okay, looking at another one PM game here that I
find to be fascinating for obvious bias reasons, But the
Cincinnati Bengals once again playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, this
is a game that is going to be very important
for AFC North implications. The Cincinnati Bengals, led by Joe Flacco,
won this matchup just a couple of weeks ago. This time,

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they're heading two Akroscher Stadium in Pittsburgh, so they're not
going to have the jungle, the home field advantage of
Cincinnati and pay Court Stadium behind them. But Cincinnati with
the same line as the game we just talked about
five and a half points of the Flacco led Bengals
heading to Pittsburgh. Do the Cincinnati Bengals sweep the Steelers
this year and really put their division lead in a

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precarious position?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I mean, technically the Bengals can still get there, right, Like,
the Bengals are definitely on the outside looking in, but
like there's theoretically they're only a game back of the
Ravens and it's absolutely possible for them to get back in,
especially with Joey b apparently most likely going to be
coming back in the next two weeks. If they can

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go on a run here and especially get this win
this week, I think that they absolutely have a chance
of resurfacing as a team once Joe Burrow gets back
as a team that could possibly do that.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I think Joe Flacco has been amazing for them.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, they got an a tough loss against the Jets,
but like, that was not Joe Burrow. I mean, sorry,
Joey Burrow, that was not a Joe Flacco's fault by
any means. Joe Flacco was absolutely tearing him up. The
problem is with this team, and we said this before
the season even started. Everyone could see it from a
mile away except for management. When you put all that
money into t Higgins, Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow and

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give nothing back to your defense, this is what you're
gonna get. You're gonna get games where you're gonna need
to score fifty points to be able to stay in it.
And that's what happened against the Jets. I think that
if they can get a win.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Here, the season's not lost.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
If they lose this week to the Steelers, I think
they gotta think about icing Joe Burrow for the rest
of the season.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, And looking right now at the Bengals schedule, they
have quite a few divisional games in front of them.
They still have to play the Cleveland Browns one time,
they have to play the Ravens twice, They have to
play the Steelers again this week. So I look at
their schedule and particularly their divisional schedule, like if they

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can stack wins against the division, they're going to be
right in that dog fight until the very end. And
their last game of the season is against the Browns,
which when it comes to tie breakers and what your
record is within the within the division, like that can
matter a lot depending on how the season shakes out.
Joe Burrow is reported that he is looking to be
back by Thanksgiving ISH, So I'm not sure if that

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ish means maybe before Thanksgiving or maybe after Thanksgiving. But
they do play the Ravens Thanksgiving Night, so if he's
if his return game is in Baltimore eight to twenty
pm on Thanksgiving, Like, man, oh man, what a specnical
that is gonna be. But looking at this game Bengals
Steelers or Joe Flacco is still going to be leading.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
The line for him.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean, look that last game they played. Flacco went
three touchdowns thirty one for forty seven three hundred forty
two yards. Chase Brown ran for one hundred eight yards.
Aaron Rodgers threw for four touchdowns to him, but also
two interceptions. So I just I look at this game.
Jamar Chase had that outstanding game sixteen receptions, one hundred

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and sixty one yards and a touchdown for Jamar Chase
against the Pittsburgh Steelers last time they played, Like, I
just think that this is a lot for the since
for the Pittsburgh defense to handle. And I think we've
seen this Pittsburgh offense slow down as the season has
gone on, and it is kind of replicating what we

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saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers last season. Order quarterback and
Russell Wilson. A lot of people wondering can he still
do it? Started the season off very, very hot. The
quarterback starts to slow down, the rest of the offense
starts to slow down. They stop winning as many games.
I think we're seeing the same exact thing play out now,

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just with Aaron Rodgers. They started off hot in September
and October. All of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers starts slowing down.
The team starts slowing down. I think they're gonna stop
winning games. I don't like them to win this Bengals matchup.
I think they get swept by the Bengals this year
because I think it's just too much firepower for them
to keep up with. I don't think the Steelers are
gonna be able to go and score the thirty plus

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points that's gonna be necessary for them to win this game.
So I really like the Bengals. And the line moved
live before my very eyes to six points in favor
of the Steelers. I like the Bengals with points here
and I like them a lot. To be honest with you,
I'll tell you what. All this talking about the AFC
North is getting me a little bit thirsty, and I
wish that there was something I could quench my thirst with.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
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Speaker 4 (18:42):
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Speaker 4 (18:51):
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Speaker 3 (20:45):
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Speaker 2 (20:46):
Getting back to NFL Week eleven, we just talked about
some AFC North. Let's talk some NFC North as we
have a big NFC North matchup. Another game that has
huge potential implications for the rest of the season. The
Chicago Bears are heading two Minnesota to take on JJ McCarthy,
Kevin O'Connell, J. Jettis and the Minnesota Vikings. Bobby, how

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do you feel about this game? Coming off a loss
to my Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
It was such a rough game, like we just played
so bad, Like there was nothing to take away from
that that was positive. Yeah, we were up ten to
nine and a half time and then completely blew the
lead that we did have. Our defensively wasn't terrible, Like
to hold you guys to field goals for the majority
of that game was impressive.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
The problem was offensively, we.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Had what eight or nine false start penalties at home?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
How the fuck does that happen?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Secondly, the ineptitude at play calling by Koc.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm at the point now where I want Koc to.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Stop play calling like I would the dynamic situations that
we find ourselves in and the play calls that he
comes up with. He's a great leader, he's a great
quarterback coach, he's a great head coach. I don't love
him as an offensive coordinator. I think that came from
last year a lot of things. One, we have a

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rookie quarterback.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's not really.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
From what I've noticed, and this is just me on
my couch noticing this as a fan. He had a
certain method that has worked with Kirk Cousins, with Sam Darnold,
with these guys that have experience in the NFL, that
have years of being in the trenches and understanding how
the exes and nos of it all. JJ McCarthy, on

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the other hand, it's his first year, he's only played
four games, and he's making these play calls like this
guy is a season veteran going out there when it's
second and third down and second and one, third and one,
and he's not running the ball with a tandem that
we have in Aaron Jones, who's tearing you guys up
in yardage, and all of a sudden, he's like, oh no,

(22:56):
let's just give it to JJ McCarty. McCarthy a throw
three times, you know, like it just doesn't make any sense.
And constantly on third and four down, he's not even
throwing these short little routes. He's throwing these freaking hail
Mary bombs that are just getting picked off in the
end zone, Like were.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Just these arm punts.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's inexplicable, and one of them is not completely I'm McCarthy.
I want to say there was one where j Jettis
seemed to get wrapped up, tangled up feet wise and
fell to the ground. I mean, this was your first
time probably watching a full Vikings game, because you were
watching it as a Baltimore Ravens fan.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
What were your takeaways?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I'll say I actually watched quite a lot of Vikings
games because my roommate and in one of my very
close friends is from Minnesota and he's a huge Vikings fan.
So I have a huge soft spot for the Minnesota
Vikings and I actually do watch a lot of their games.
And what I see is like JJ McCarthy is a project.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
He's not a prospect. Right.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That's a distinction A lot of people like to make about,
especially about QB's into the league, but rookies in general,
but especially quarterbacks. Some guys are prospects. That's like you
get them, they are ready to go, right. Lamar Jackson,
which a lot of people thought he was a prospect,
was a project, is a prospect.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think Baker Mayfield was a prospect.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like these are guys who came into the league and
they started playing NFL caliber football right away.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
JJ McCarthy is a project.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
He is somebody who probably isn't going to be great
until well into his second year, maybe even his third year.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Do I see flashes of him making great throws? Absolutely?
I do.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Do I see him have the attitude that I think
you need as an NFL quarterback? Is he somebody who
I am okay with standing at the podium representing my
organization week in week out? Absolutely I am. Clearly he's
got some cool fire behind him. He's got his alter
ego nine, which I don't know how I feel about that.

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I think it's very corny. But I also think that
some of that is like okay, Like I would rather
have JJ McCarthy be nine on game day than have
Kyler Murray, who seems like he doesn't give a damn
about playing football, Like I'd rather lean so far into
I'm so into this that it's kind of lame and corny. Then,
like I want to play call of duty instead of

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being out here playing football and being a member of
this team. So I think that there's a lot of
good in JJ McCarthy. I think he's just raw as hell.
Though he misses a lot of throws, he makes some
deep ball decisions that are questionable as hell and often
result in interceptions, and that is something that thankfully you

(25:39):
can get better at, you can develop, And I think.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Kevin O'Connell is one of the best guys in the
league to be tasked with that.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
He is a quarterback whisper, like you said, and I
think if you want someone to develop a young talent
that has all of the X factor qualities that you
need to be an NFL quarterback, you want Kevin O'Connell
guiding him there. He's just not there yet. And we
can't overlook the fact that he started his NFL career
with a torn ac out.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah. I mean, that's as bad of an injury as
you can.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Take to start your NFL career, regardless of what position
you're playing, especially if you're a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So I think that there is going to be a.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Steep learning curve for JJ McCarthy. I think he's gonna
lose a lot of games that he probably shouldn't lose,
but I think he's also going to show flashes that
lead this team and lead you know, obviously you're a
part of this, but lead the fan base to want
to stick with them.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
And you have a very expensive offense right now.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You have one of the most expensive players in the
league in Justin Jefferson. Is Jordan Addison Stone in his
rookie deal, Yes, that's not gonna last.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
You have TJ.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Hockinson, who is one of the highest earning tight ends
in the league. And you have an offensive line that
you're gonna need to pay if you wanted to keep
up with the rate that the.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Is currently operating at.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
And having a quarterback that is costing you a rookie
amount of money is a luxury, and I think when
you have that situation, you want to exhaust any possible
belief in the guy before you move off of him,
because he is so cheap and you have so many
expensive pieces on this offense.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
So I just look at him.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And he went up against you know, Lamar Jackson, who
is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game,
and he went up against an ascending Baltimore Ravens defense
that has been getting better and better every single week
for the past four weeks, and they didn't stop that momentum.
Going in to us Bank Stadium in Minnesota. So I

(27:44):
look at the Vikings as a team where there's a
lot there. I think it's just going to require some patience.
I think it's going to require some patients from the
fan base, from the star players on this team, justin Jefferson,
whose body language was not very encouraging on Sunday, and
from the coaching staff and the ownership group of the
Minnesota Vikings. I think there's something there with JJ. And

(28:07):
I would hate for the Vikings fans genuinely to have
a Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield Daniel Jones type situation where
you have a young guy that's very unconvincing when he's young,
and then he goes somewhere else and he becomes this
pop guy that's fighting for MVPs and you're like, oh
my god, we had him in the building. So I

(28:27):
still want to exercise patience with JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I still want to give the kid like time, Like
he's only four games into his NFL career. I'm not
saying panic button panic, but it's just some of the
throws I'm seeing. It's like, oh that's rough, you know so,
but there's gonna be growing pains. That's what happens with
the first year quarterback, Like every quarterback goes through it.
So I'm not out on him by any means. I
think the alter ego thing is a little cringe. But

(28:53):
at the same time, this is a big game this
week right against.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
The Bears for both of them.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
This is like this could be all or nothing because
we are technically two and zero in the division. If
we go undefeated in the division, it's not out of
realm for us to be able to get back in
it and still win this division. We beat the Lions
at the Lions, we beat the Bears at the Bears.
We're gonna have both those teams again, but at home
this time, and we have a struggling Packers team next week.

(29:20):
You know, I believe it's at home. It might, it
might be a way, but regardless, if we win those
divisional games, then we play basically the NFC was the
NFC West, No No, No, NFC East, and then also Seattle.
So Seattle's gonna be a tough game. Obviously, the division
games are gonna be tough games. The NFC East. I'm

(29:40):
not necessarily two worriedbout because we've already played the Eagles,
so that one's done. But the rest of the teams
don't scare me by any by any means, I think
that this week in particular, we have to get it
done or we might as well count out the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I mean, this game is everything, and it's big
for the Bears as well. The Bears find themselves in
play off position, but I think that's gonna be fleeting,
because boy, the NFC is good.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
There are a lot of good teams in the NFC.
The Eagles are great, the Lions are great, the.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Buccaneers are great.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
The Seahawks may are playing like the best team in
football right now. The Rams are also playing like the
best team in football right now. The forty nine Ers
are six and four, The Packers are five and three,
The Bears are six and three. The Vikings are sitting
at four and five trying to get things right. I
mean the Panthers, the Carolina Panthers are five and five

(30:36):
right now. This is a loaded conference and it's a
little strange to see because that has not been the
case over the past.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Couple of years.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Last year, I think the tide really started to turn
in favor of the NFC, But it's gonna take a
lot of wins to sneak into the playoffs for the NFC.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Like I think you're gonna need like.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
At least minimum ten wins, and I wouldn't be surprised
if the seventh seed is an eleven win team, So
you're really gonna need some wins. And if the Vikings,
because of that two and zero record in the division,
they're not really out of this divisional race. They have
so much they have a mountain to climb to get there.
We're on life support.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're on life support, but they're not out of it.
They're not out of it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And they got a lot of easy games against the
broken NFC East Division coming up. They already got that
Eagles one out of the way, Cowboys, Commanders, Giants, they'll
be favored in all three of those games.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
And we're only a game and a half technically back
of every single team in our division outside the Packers.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
We even played them yet, and so we're really not
out of it.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, not by any stretch.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's just you you have to win the games, and
that that's gonna be the tough part. And this is
a game where it's winnable and it's important, like it's
really a makeup break. If you go two games under
five hundred, you're looking at a really tough road to
even find the seventh seed. But if you're sitting at
five and five going into this NFC E stretch, you

(32:05):
have against the Cowboys, against the Giants, against the Commanders,
like all of a sudden, getting the ten wins doesn't
look so hard, but sitting at four and six, it
looks a lot more difficult. So a fascinating game in
both Northern Divisions, the Bengals playing at the Steelers and
the Bears playing at the Vikings. This is a three
point spread in favor of the Vikings. I am stand
away from this one. This is way too close to call.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
FERD.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, I agree, I mean just three Vikings home field advantage,
you know. Looking at another one PM game here, the
Los Angeles Chargers heading to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars.
These are two teams I cannot assess. I am having
such a difficult time reading both of these teams. The

(32:49):
Jaguars are five and four right now, second in their
division to the excuse me, red hot Indianapolis Colts. The
Chargers are sitting at seven and three in their division,
looking at looking at a second place position to the
red hot Denver Broncos also sitting at eight and two.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
What do you make of these teams? Man?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Because I look at the spread and the spread is
three points again in favor of the visiting Los Angeles Chargers.
And I think the last time we saw these teams
play correct me if I'm wrong, was in the playoffs
when yeah, that big lead got blown. So it's like,
I just I can't read either of these teams. And
I expect the Chargers to be in the playoffs because

(33:32):
of their strong record. I think the Jags are going
to be fighting for that seven seed position.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
What do you make of this one?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I think the Chargers are a very strong team.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think that from head to toe, they have what
it takes to honestly win it all. Like, I really
believe in this Chargers team, and I think that if
they continued, the Pacer're going like they just dismantled the
Vikings and the Steelers back to back weeks, like without contest.
That defense is playing lights out right now, especially when
they're at home. Jaguars just got an emotional loss against

(34:05):
the Houston Texans are emotional loss. I think that the
emotional loss is going to hit them hard. I think
the Chargers going there and I don't even think it's close.
I think they wreck them.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Twenty six points given up in the fourth quarter by
the Jacksonville Jaguars, scoring zero points in the fourth quarter.
They went into that fourth quarter up twenty nine to
ten and lost and lost by seven points. Unbelievable. Trevor
Lawrence one hundred and fifty eight yards and a touchdown
and a pick thirteen for twenty three very uninspiring performance

(34:35):
from him. So I mean Jacksonville is another team where
if they dropped this game, they're looking at a tough
road to find that wild card spot.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I don't think they're quite out of it at five
and five. I think probably. I think nine to eight
might be the seventh seed in the AFC.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
They started so hot too.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, they started great, and they had that big win
against the Chiefs, and that feels like a lifetime ago
now at this point, especially, I'm out of that Houston game,
getting into the four pms.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
This I think has the potential to be the game
of the season.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
We have an NFC West Seattle Seahawks heading to SOFI
Stadium to take on Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay, Pokinakua and
the Los Angeles Rams. Three points spread in favor of
the home team, the Rams. I mean, this has all
the makings of like a Blockbuster game, does it not? It?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Does?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
It does?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean the Seahawks defense and JSN are playing out
their mind now. Sam Dartle didn't have a great game
last week against the Cardinals, but the fact that they
put up forty four points in their quarterback played a very,
very mediocre game just shows how good that team is. Yes,
the defense allowed twenty two points. I'm not worried about

(35:51):
that when your team is scoring forty four points. Like,
I think that the Seahawks are arguably the best team
in the league, and I think that they are literally
set up head to toe to just absolutely wreck people.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Now, on the other hand, the Rams, the Rams looked
just as good. Like the Rams. I've said it for
years now.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
They're one of the best run organizations in all of football.
Like every single year we talk about how the Rams
are gonna be contenders, right like you always have, you know,
the Bills, the Chiefs, the Baltimore Ravens. You know, you
always have these strong teams Lions that you consider as contenders.
I feel like we always kind of put the Rams
just outside that category, and every single year they're right

(36:34):
here and in the thick of things. I don't know
why we don't give better credit to them. Shit, they
won a Super Bowl not too long ago.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
So they damn near beat the Eagles in the playoffs
last year exactly champions.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
They upset the Vikings at home.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well, I know we're on the road, but at the
same time, like, we literally lost two to two teams
last year twice and it was the Lions in the Rams,
And like, I think that the Rams need to have
better respect on their name.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I don't even know where to go with this game.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I think either team could win, and I think it's
gonna be an absolutely like just a barn Burner fun
game to watch.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, I'm very upset that the Baltimore Ravens are playing
at four o'clock on Sunday. I'm actually gonna be an Ecuador,
so I wouldn't be able to watch it anyway, But
if I was watching, I'd be very upset that the
Ravens are playing at four against the Cleveland Browns, who
you know, I think we all know how that game
is gonna go. Although, although I will say, we don't
have to talk about this game too much. The Ravens

(37:31):
have lost three of their last four games in Cleveland,
and there have been some very bad Cleveland teams over
the past few years, so it is a tough place
for Baltimore to go play.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
They're seven and a half point favorites going into this game.
They look mostly healthy going into this Marlon Humphrey, cornerback
for the Ravens, is already not going to play due
to a finger injury. He got pins in his finger.
He got his finger pinned, is what they said. I
assume that means he got pins put in, but he

(38:05):
will not be playing the game. Lamar Jackson was not
practicing today due to nie soreness. He is expected to
be back in practice tomorrow. So I'm not gonna lean
too heavy into any anxiety that I'm feeling about that.
But this is a game that the Ravens should win.
And you look at the Steelers with a very tough
out against the Cincinnati Bengals going in to Week eleven.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
By the end of week eleven. The Ravens could be
first place in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
North if they win that game and the Steelers lose
again to the Bengals. The Ravens are sitting with sole
possession of a first place because he will.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Be able to celebrate it for a week later.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Wait, what do you mean, because you.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Won't know what's going on, You'll be a nick.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I'll just have to sit there stressing out on ayahuasca.
That's one My whole trip is my whole ayahuasca trip
in Ecuador is going to be about did the Ravens win?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
But someone tell me what happened exactly? The walls will
be melting around me and I'll be it's lamar healthy?
Did you play? Like? So?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I look at that game as a game that the
Ravens should win. It should be another confidence builder. They're
on a three game win streak right now coming out
of that bye They they've won three games straight against
the Bears, against the Vikings and against the Who am
I missing?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Those just are just the two games. No, what game
am I? They played the Bears coming out of the
bye week, and then who do they play two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Are you saying the raven How am I blanket on this?

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Two weeks ago you guys played the.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Or is that our bye week?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
That was your bye week? That was your bye week?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yep? Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Week eight we beat the Bears. Week nine we beat
the Dolphins. The Dolphins, that's all. So game out of
the bye week. We beat the Bears, we beat the Dolphins.
We just beat your Vikings, and now we go into
this Cleveland game, which we're fa favor over a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
It's a very bad Cleveland team.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
They have a pretty good defense, but we man handled
them in Week two of the season, winning like forty
one to ten I think the score was. So this
is a game that you hope the Ravens will win,
but it's a place that they've had a lot of
difficulty winning in recent seasons. So I don't think this
is by any means a gimme. But if they can
go into Cleveland, if they can beat Cleveland, if they
can do it handedly especially, then we're looking at a

(40:25):
potential first place position in the AFC North, and even
more importantly, we're looking at a four game win streak.
And then we played the New York Jets, the following
week at home. That's a game that we should be dominating.
Those are five games on the spin that we've won
heading into Thanksgiving against the Bengals, potentially with Joe Burrow.
I mean, like, look, I'm as biased as you can

(40:47):
possibly be. I know that, so I understand that everything
I say about this team should be taken with a
mountain sized grain of salt.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
But this is the team nobody wants to see right now.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Rave want to see nobody wants to see, and that
I think is going to carry well into.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
January, well into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
This is the team that will be playing playoff football
for a full month before the playoffs even start, for
a full two months before the playoffs start. This is
the team that is getting healthy. This is the team
whose two time MVP quarterback is returning to MVP four Like,
this is the team that you do not want to see,
and teams are gonna have to see us, so you hope,

(41:27):
if you're a Ravens fan, they can win that.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Another interesting matchup.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
A lot of great divisional matchups this week in the
four PMS. The Kansas City Chiefs heading two Mile High
Stadium to take on the Broncos, a team that I
think the Broncos have been getting away with a lot
of them. I think they've been getting away with a
lot of them. Yeah, I mean they've had a lot
of very close wins. Barely beat the piss poor Raiders

(41:54):
last week on Thursday Night football, just barely beat the
Houston Texans a week before that, the week before that game,
but no, they had the Cowboys who they stomped down,
and then the week before that they barely beat the Giant.
They've been getting away with a lot of games and

(42:14):
can sit out against really bad teams. And they're sitting
at eight and two, and they're sitting at the top
of that division right now. If they go lose against Kansas,
you might have to wring the fraud alarm and you
might have to ring it against Bonnicks and the rest
of that team. Now, on the inverse of that, if
the Kansas City Chiefs lose that game, they're now sitting

(42:35):
at five and five, and you might have to ring
the fraud alarm on the Kansas City Chiefs. Five and
five is not a good place to be right now
in this NFL. So I am watching this game. Well,
I won't be watching it, But I'm thinking about this
game with a whole lot of intrigue because a win
in either direction has massive implications for both teams. I'll

(42:57):
ask you the same question I asked earlier. Who who
needs this game more?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Man? It's tough. They both really need it.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm gonna need it, I'm gonna said the Broncos, especially
at home. This is like one where the fans, out
of all the games of the year, you know, the
Broncos fans at home want to beat the Chiefs like
this is a big test of character, test of will
for this Broncos team. I think that they have to
get it done here or I completely agree with you.

(43:28):
You gotta wring the fraud a arm. I think the
Chiefs also very much so need it because they need
to stay in the race.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
They need to stay in the hunt. I mean, there's
a real chance.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
That we could see the Chargers, Chiefs, Ravens, and Bills
all fighting it out for those three wild card spots,
which is crazy, and even the Bengals you could throw
in there.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So, I mean, isn't it weird to think that there's
a chance one of those teams will not make the
playoffs like it's wild to me, and I think that
if the Chiefs lose this game, you got to rering
in the bells as well. I think this is an
absolute get right game all for both those teams.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean a huge game with huge implications.
And looking to Sunday Night football this week, the Detroit
Lions heading two Philly to take.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
On the Eagles. Man, what a heavyweight matchup.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
This is two teams at the top of the NFC
going add it two and a half points in favor
of the home team. I'm staying away from this one.
I don't even know where to go. I'm gonna be honest.
I think I like Detroit more. I think Detroit has
more firepower. I think they have a better quarterback. Shockingly,
I think they have a better running back. I'm way

(44:37):
bigger on Jumior Gibbs this year than I am on
Saquon Barkley, who has kind of regressed a bit from
what we saw from is you know, an incredible season
last year. I think I like Detroit, but I think
the spread's right. Two and a half points is about
where I would put this.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Give me the Eagles all day, I wow, are going
to show why they are one of the front runners
for the NFC. I think the Detroit Lions are for frauds. Okay,
absolutely Rods. I think they proved it when they lost
to my Minnesota Vikings, who look terrible right now at home,

(45:16):
in a divisional game that they really needed. I really
just think that the Eagles are the real deal. I
think they Yes, they played poorly against the Packers last week,
but they were still able to pull it out. Yes,
they have their problems with aj Brown just being absolutely
disgruntled by no means on a winning team and the
super Bowl caliber team that just won the Super Bowl

(45:36):
last year. It's wild me give me the Eagles all day,
and the Monday night football matchup is a straight vomit game.
The I'm not even gonna spend any time to recap this.
I also want to say real quick before we get
to Survivor, which is starting in about two and a
half minutes, we will be right here after the show
to recap the new episode of Survivor, Me Bobby Rachel Riley,

(45:58):
Reality TV Royalty, and teeny Cheer at Chillo from season
forty seven. The primetime games last week, all of them
were terrible.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
They were all absolutely terrible.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I mean, you had the Monday night game, which was
the Eagles Packers ten to seven awful. You had the
Steelers Chargers game ten to twenty five awful, and then
you had the Thursday night game Raiders Broncos seven to
ten awful. All terrible primetime games. So I hope that
primetime can be a little more interesting this week. We'll
have to wait to find out real quick. We have
like ninety seconds. Do we have the ticket prices up?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
The cheapest ticket of the weekend I think is going
to be I think the cheapest ticket of the weekend
is going to be the Texans at Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Nope, it's Baltimore at Cleveland. Whoa nine dollars?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Low?

Speaker 3 (46:58):
All year? What not? The cheapest ticket of the year
at Cleveland? Wow? Wow?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
The most expensive ticket of the year, I'm going to
exclude the international game.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I think it's going to be. Oh, this is tough.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
With one minute on the clock before we start Survivor
of before we start to Survivor tonight, Oh god. I
think that the most expensive ticket of the week is
going to be Chiefs at Mile High stadium that.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Was number two, number one, Dallas at Las Vegas Raiders.
Three hundred and one dollars ohet buy what forty tickets
Bengals to the Baltimore Cleveland game could.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Buy a whole section?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Oh my god, three hundred dollars for Cowboys at Raiders.
I mean, I guess it's cowboys in that stadium, but
but oh, Raiders, it's at Raiders. So it's like, that's
the say visiting that stadium. I think it's also the
fact that there is an expensive stadium.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
What have you?

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right, well, we got five seconds until Survivor starts,
so go get in front of your TV's watch episode
eight A Survivor, and then come right back here to
the reality after show to recap with me, Bobby.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Teeny and Rachel Riley.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Can't wait to see you there, see you guys, al
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