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Speaker 1 (00:45):
What's up, Reality TV fan, Welcome back to the stream.
Today's huge because we have one of the most iconic
reality TV players of all time with us. She is
a champion, he has a legend, she has TV royalty,
and she's my good friend. Nobody does chaos like she does.
The one and only Rachel Riley joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you. Wow, what an introduction. Look it be ye.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I had to write it all out, so don't give
me any critics.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you well listen, I appreciate that man prepared.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yes, I have plenty of notes, trust me, because I'm
the kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm not like Karen.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I can't just come up with these things off the
top of my head, like I have to have.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
My notes all on here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We're going to be diving into everything, her legacy, her strategy,
the highs lows, her place in Big Brother history, and
we're going to ask her what the questions that the
fans actually care about. And I want to give you
guys in the chat the ability to be involved today.
So while I talk to her and ask her some
of my interview questions, drop your superchat comments in the
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comments will get the super Chat comments red live to Rachel.
If there's any questions you have from Big Brother twenty seven,
we would love to hear your thoughts, uh and get
Rachel's opinion on everything you guys have to say. So,
without further ado, Rachel, how you been been crazy summer?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It was well, it was a crazy summer, and since
I got back into the real world it's been even crazier.
It's been very exciting. I'm going to be on Bold
and Beautiful soon. I like next week will be on
Bold and Beautiful, not soon. I got to go to
my local Birmingham affiliate. I'll be on Saturday for the
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second time talking about reality TV. I'm doing all the things,
like we get to like have a lot of fun
after Big Brother and so I've just kind of been
living it up and enjoying that. But yeah, summer was
a lot. That was you know, that was crazy, but yeah,
it was good. It was good crazy. In the chat,
(02:44):
I said, Hi, I can see them, so I don't
know if I can comment, but I can answer their questions.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yes, perfect. So we've been waiting for this moment for
a long time. A lot of my people in my
chat are a lot of people I've had throughout the
whole summer live streaming, and I want to go back
to before you were on the season. So we had
the whole Janelle post of it all saying like I
can't get a hold of Rachel. Rachel's not texting back.
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I just talked to her. I talked to her every day,
and all of a sudden, She's not responding. And so
I saw that and I was like, there's no way, Like,
I was like, I just podcasted last season with Rachel,
like she like. I was like, maybe there is, maybe
there's a chance. I'm gonna text Rachel and see what
he says. So I text Rachel. I was like, hey,
I was kind of in smooth. I was like, hey,
are we still on for podcasting this summer? We talked
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and we did it last summer. Are you still interested?
I didn't get a reply, and then all of a sudden,
like two days, So that like red flags right there,
right because usually you text.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Back right away.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So then I a few days later, at like three
am my time, so that's like five am your time,
I get a text. Hey, No, of course I'm not
on the show. That would be too much this summer. Yeah,
we'll talk about doing the podcast. I'm like, there's someone
else here.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Wait was it all? Was it in regular caps with
a lot of emojis?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That was Brendan so funny. Do you know what is
the best part of all of that? He was able
to trick Janelle and some of my other friends that
I do talk to all the time, and he said
he used a bunch of emojis, because I do use
a bunch of emojis. But the best part about all
of it is that I guess I do text in
a lot of cats and I didn't realize that. And
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so especially on like the chat BCC or whatever he
was going through, and he would be like texting posting
stuff on chat BCC, and he would use a ton
of emojis, but he speaks in full sentences, and I
literally I do not know how to do that on
a text message or on like Twitter or a chat
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BCC or anything. And so he like totally blew up
his own spot so many times with so many of
my friends because they're like, this is not how Rachel talks.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was so funny because I just it was instant
red flags for me and I was like, this is
not Rachel.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And and just like days later, responding.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And then finally when we found you going into the
house and we kind of like knew what was happening.
I take that because like I knew it was you
the whole time, Brandan, and he just gave me smiley
faces back.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So it was fun.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But we let's talk about the beginning, all right. I'm
not gonna do it like like Karon did, where you're
breaking down every single episode. I want to just kind
of get a general gist in the beginning when you're
out there, when you're going into the house, when you
walked in for the first time, what was your read
on the cast? Was there anyone you felt with that
you could work with on the very first hour day?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
What have you?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh gosh, that's a great question. I don't remember the
first day who I thought I could work with, but
I was definitely trying. So my goal going in was
to use the skills I learned in casting and get to, like,
I really break down people in casting, like we ask
a lot of really good questions, Like I form these bonds,
I get really deep them, like right away. So my
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goal is to do that and then also to like
let the other people talk, which I found on Big brother.
Especially the first few weeks, you see a lot of
people that want to talk about themselves and want to
be the center of retention and want to just kind
of like shine. They want to be the floaters, grabble
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life fester person right, And so I knew if I
went back that I needed to let everyone else do that,
like do what you gotta do, take your time, you know,
like the Zais and even Jimmy. I love Jimmy obviously,
but like you know, he had a big personality. He
was talking to everyone, he was in you know, he
was in the couch like cuddling it up with everyone.
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So I was like, oh, this Jimmy guy, he knows
how to get these people like on his side. So
I think that was kind of my goal too, where
it was like, got to get them on my side.
And if someone like Jimmy is getting everyone on his,
then I've got to make sure that Jimmy wants to
keep me around. Because you want the people that are
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low threats or that could potentially be a high target.
You want to make sure that they're your people because
you either have them on your side or they're going
to be a shield in front of you. Right That
was my goal. I don't remember the first few days
who I thought I could work with, but I did
instantly click with Jimmy, I instantly clicked with Ashley, and
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I think Jimmy and I by day I want to say,
like day three, we were already like so close. We
just became great friends immediately. The first few days. I
guess he didn't really like me, so's I would have
never known that in the house, like not. He did
not let me know in the house that he was
like coming for me. But I think also, you know,
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I also became really good friends with Morgan straight away,
so I think she and I were able to kind
of like cement that relationship. I went in the diary
room one day and I was like, so, I'm making
everyone cry, worry. It's not in a bad way or
a mean way. I was like, I am just asking
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them so many questions about themselves, and they are apparently
just ready to cry or I don't know what it is.
They just are crying about telling me all these stories.
So I was I was kind of shocked because I
I don't think I ever played big brother like that,
and I don't remember ever being able to just come
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in the Big Brother House, ask the questions, get to
form these relationships, and it was nice to be able
to do that. It was nice to be able to
talk to people on a different in a different way
than I had before. Because I always had, you know,
Brendan in the house or we had I always felt
like a target. So it was nice to be able
to just go in and get to know people.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Was there anyone and I understand, like, you know, you
feel good with a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You felt like you trusted.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Too fast, trusted too fast?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Like, was there anyone that initially you thought you had
a good read on and all that, and then as
the game progressed, maybe it wasn't what you thought or
the relationship wasn't what you thought.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean we all know the front of me,
the front of me of it. I kind of yeah,
that person. But besides that, I think connecting with Za
was really hard. I did also, you know, when I
first got into the Big Brotherhouse, had a great relationship
with Amy, like from this from the jump, because she
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was she and I had mom Squad, and she and
I became good friends. But I think I tried so
hard to connect with and to connect with Adrian and
I never had luck. They were the two people that
I just could not could not get a read on,
or couldn't get to, couldn't start a friendship with no
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matter what I did. So when Zay was going, I
was like, he's got to go, like this kid is
going to give me a problem, as we saw. But yeah,
but I knew. I knew there was nothing I could
do because he'd kind of he was also starting this
like bro alliance the first few days and it happened
really quickly, and I saw that it was going to
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be a problem because it was like it was like
all the guys right. So I was like, there's definitely
not going to that's not a good a good look
for my game.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think that like the questions here
that we're going to ask them stream are going to
kind of be all over the places. I do want
to read some of the chats, Yes please, So let's
start with Mary right here.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
What is harder to play with players who know what
they're doing, I e.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Matt hating Danny or bad players like Keanu.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I think it's way harder to play with players that
are bad because like if I so, this is the
thing with Danny. At the end of the day, I
could sit down with Danielsonado and have a conversation and
logically explain a game move to her that if she
didn't like the answer, she would be like, no, and
that doesn't make sense because of this, And then I
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could say, look that I see what you're saying, and
you see what I'm saying. So we've got to come
to a compromise and figure this out because if Danielle,
if you and I don't work together, they're going to
come for us. We're going to end up having you know,
like we're just not it's you know, you're going to
go home or I'm going to go home. It's going
to be a war everyone will benefit from, which is
what happened on season thirteen. I got lucky that I
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won the game, but Danielle went home and she and
I could have worked together that season. So Matt same
with Matt Hoffman, like he and I went back and
forth so much, and I tried to talk to him
about it, and I was like, don't put up Brendan
and I. We're a target, we're a shield, you know,
And he he understood, but he you know, I knew
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what needed to happen, whereas like other players, like this season, Nobo,
you wanted to listen to me, nobody wanted to, you know,
work with me this season. I would try to explain
to them how I'd played the game twice and yeah,
how uh Like it was just really difficult to kind
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of communicate with them because they just didn't They thought
that whatever I was saying was wrong, Like yes, that's sure, sure, sure, Rachel,
but like we know better, and I'm like, no, no,
like you guys probably don't.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Know better, Like yeah, yeah, that's very fair.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And then another thing too, is like just and I
know it's jumping ahead a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
But as far as like, uh, where is it at? Oops?
Right here? I just clicked on the wrong one.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Samantha says, what does Rachel think of the big fan
campaign for AFP, Like there was a massive fan campaign,
Like as much as you know, and maybe you were
surprising Keanu win it all.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I would love to hear your impression when you found
out that he won AFP, but there was a huge
campaign for you as well.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Thank you, thank you guys for the campaign. I really
appreciate that, you know, I I think I got taken
out by a crazy twist, and I thought that that,
uh was unfortunate because it was disappointing, and so I
think that it was like a racial redemption, right, But
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like you know, at the end of the day, I
played the best game that I think I've ever played,
and I did the best that I could have ever,
you know, the best I could do in that situation,
and played with the hands I was dealt. And I
see that you voted for me five five hundred times.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Thanks, We had thousands of times a day.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It does blow my mind a little, but you know,
they would you know, it's yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
A human thank you so much for that to do. Yeah,
what are you gonna do? Though, like what are you
gonna do?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
At the same time, like it is what it is
the thing that right think in my uh, you know,
fan impression of what kind of you know hurt you
in the AFP campaign is because you went out first injury,
like Keani lasted longer, and Keanu had that underdog story
that a lot of people root for. However, he had
an uphill battle because from day one we said there's
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no way anyone else is winning this like you had
it locked up from day one? Yeah, And the only
reason I think it happens is just because you went
out earlier. And I don't think that's a detriment or
your game or anything like that. I think that's more
on production and what happened than anything else I could
say about it. Now, I do want to get back
to some of my questions on here. How did you
feel about only getting one week of safety? I know
I heard you talking to Tarn about it, but you've
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seen other people in the past get multiple weeks of safety?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Was impression.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was disappointed because I was like, what the heck
I get one week of safety? I'm a listen ghetto
single week. So I mean, guess at the end of
the day, I guess I'm happy that I got one
week because I do think I would have gone on
the block the first week stepping into the house. Terren
said he didn't think I would. I think I would have.
I think that. I think with Vince's hoh, I could
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have talked my way out of going on the block,
but it would have been very difficult. And I think
if I had to go in there being a winner,
being a legend. It just I didn't want to have
to also go in and have to like convince people
that I needed to stay in the house. It's just like, uh,
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but yeah, that Paul had four weeks and he got
friendship bracelets. When we went back on Big Brother thirteen,
I feel like we got we maybe didn't get a
week of safety, but we want cho H. So I
guess we didn't get anything because we won h OH
that first week, so that was kind of like our
safety and I didn't really We also talked about with Tara,
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I didn't really have like a big super fan that
was a big Rachel fan of the game, right, So
I thought that that I wish I would have had
someone that could have been there to stick up for
me and be like, no, you have to understand, like Rachel,
she you know, is not this backstabbing person that everyone is.
That there are two people are trying to convince everyone.
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I was because nobody really knew how I played my
game and I would tell them and they just didn't
want to believe me.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, and then Kate the great One, thank you so
much for Yeah, I don't have a question yet, but
I have to tell you. I loved watching Reality Queens
last year. It really made me appreciate your game and
strategy in twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So thank you, Kate.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
We had a lot of watching Reality Queens. That was
so fun. I know, we did have fun that season.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It was Reality Queens and Bobby. Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's true, And you know what I felt like because
we needed you on it, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I appreciate it. I had a lot of with it.
We had a lot, we had a good time. Hopefully
we could podcast again in the future. I would really
like that. So let's get back to I'm just gonna
do a couple more of my questions and we'll get
some more in the chat. Do you ever feel like
your personality was too big for the game or was
that actually your weapon?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think that. My that's a great question. I wasn't.
I was not expecting that. So, my, my, no, I
love it because so my goal to go into Big Brother,
I did want to have over the top clothing. I
wanted to have this big persona. I wanted to be
so hot, Like I told them so many times. I've
been on twelve different shows I've been on you know,
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I've won all these reality shows. When I need to win,
I always pull it out, don't mess with me. And
that was definitely by design. But do I think that
it was too big? No, I think I think I
did that. I mean I personally that was one of
my stotgs to go in there and to be this
big personality, this over the top, larger than life Rachel
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that they didn't want to touch, that they didn't want
to Like I say always, I always say, it's like
I wanted to make the fire so hot they were
scared to even go near it. And by doing that,
I thought it would keep me off the block, which
it did. I also thought I would be able to
make make people want to work with me, and I
think I did for the most part. But I don't
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think I don't. I think maybe it did me a
disservice from like America's favorite player or something from that
point of view. But like, look, at the end of
the day, I wanted to make good TV too, so
it was like, you know, you go on these shows
and it is a TV show, so my job is
also to be entertaining.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I love it when people can realize that, because that's
the word thing is when you're on reality TV you
want to be and if you want to be asked
back for many seasons of different shows.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Literally you literally have to be a character. It's like
you can't you can't just be you know, showing up
and you know, not doing anything, because then you're forgettable
and if people they'll not want you.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
To come back exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We've mentioned it many times on this podcast, like if
you're a character, that's the best thing you can do.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
The best thing you do, honestly is be like a villain.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Like, even if you're not necessarily a full villain, the
most brought back characters in the history of reality TV
are villain archetypes. And that's why I think that it's
like the best idea. And Jeff has said on Survivor,
we're not casting villains anymore. I think that's a terrible
thing to say. Like you want that archetype in there
because it gives people a rooting interest one way or
the other.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and you need that because they listen with no villain,
there's no hero, right, So, like you literally need to
have a villain or you won't have the hero character
and you won't have a story that progresses at all period.
Like you just you need to have someone that also.
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And by the way, I don't really think that was
a villain this season, and I don't think I don't
even know that we had a villain this season. I
think the mastermind was the villain.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I argue Vince to an extent.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I mean, yeah, you could, especially in the end, but
I think with Vince, he wasn't a villain in the
traditional sense of being a villain. He was a villain
in the sense of like more of the antagonist, right
than the So it was like, I don't know, I
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think that I kind of thought Keanu was the villain,
to be honest, but then apparently I was wrong because
America or maybe America just liked the villain.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
And I know you've watched the season back, and if
I could give my perspective just as a fan, as
a friend of your yours, I think that for keyany
what resonated with people, and because we did watch it
week after week after week is the fact that he
was always someone from the bottom and he would say
and do things on the episode or in the live
streams that we would watch a life excuse me, that
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we would watch and we'd be like, Okay, this guy's
just a lovable oath like he gets in his own way.
It's kind of like Lucy with the football always, you know,
pulling the football out from under and that there is
something that resonates with fans and even casuals more importantly,
when the show is really giving that that this is
an underdog edit and that it's like a lovable dude, you.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Know, like there is that aspect that people latch onto.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now, however, I understand from your point of view, being
a person in the house and a player in the game,
how frustrating that can be. And I actually do have
some points that I wrote down here, so let me
see if I can pull them.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Up, because I feel like too, he was not like
everyone's like, oh, he's the underdog. I would literally trying
to work with him, and I was literally trying to
coach him, and I've tried the whole I tried so much, Bobby,
I like did everything I could, So it wasn't It
wasn't like he was an underdog because everybody was targeting
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him and they wanted him out. He was an underdog
because he didn't want to work with anybody. It was
like he he didn't want he was winning competitions and
then he would throw it in people's faces and then
he didn't want to listen to anyone and he didn't
want to work with anyone. So it was like he
he wasn't an underdog in this sense, like I was
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the underdog on like Big Brothers. I don't know, maybe not.
I don't know if I've ever been to underdogs. So
but like you know another underdog that we see, he
wasn't that type of underdog. Oh my god, this b
Nicoll loves me and Keanu together. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He Nicol was your biggest the biggest uh friend of
me fan of all time. Now, don't get me wrong.
I was a friend of these fan too. I want
you to work, to work more than anything. One thing
I do want to say before I get to your questions,
and I do see the super chat in there, so
we we'll get to that. So there was the interview
that Tarren did with Kean or the deep Dive where
he reiterates in the game it really came down to
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his initial alliance with Riley and Vince and how he
was blindly loyal to them. What are your thoughts, because
I really think that affected his game but also affected
your game in a lot of ways too.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, Keanu messed up my game period, right, Like
he messed my game up as much as he could
every day. Like he would tell people that I was
like a you know, a villain, a mastermind. I was
the you know, don't trust Rachel blah blah blah. And
then even when it came down to like I would
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be like, what are you doing? And he would just
I mean, I don't know, dude, that guy, but I
think he's still even after watching I watched teren steep
dive he did. I don't think that he I don't
think he gives me credit and I don't think he
recognizes that I was like trying to help and trying.
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Like he's never apologized, He's never reached out to me.
He's not like after the game no, and people are like, oh,
you and Keanu don't talk. I'm like, why, like we
have nothing to talk. I don't know him, like I
don't know anything about him because he and I am
not that big brother person. I am the big brother
person who is the big brother like champion for everyone
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I work with Big Brother house guests. I want to
build them up and get them on other shows and
do everything I can. But like, I mean, I don't
want to like sit here and say talk about people.
But like there's another house guest that also hasn't like
reached out to me. And I've reached out to them
and been like, hey, let's talk, and this other person
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doesn't want like also doesn't want to. They said they're
not ready to talk about stuff either, and I'm like, okay, well,
I don't know what. I don't know what I'm supposed
to do, so I don't know. It's like I can't
like just because and I look, I'm the person that
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I always say you become best friends with people on
Big Brother. The people from Big Brother are some of
my best friends in the world. And I met my
husband on Big Brother. My sister's been on Big Brother.
This show is my life, right, like my daughter will
be on Big Brother one day. But like it, I
feel like I don't know that other that person, Like
(25:25):
I just don't like I've tried, like I talk text
message with most of my cast I talk to them,
I've followed up with them, check on them, make sure
they're okay. But there's you know, certain people from this
cast a Big Brother twenty seven that just starn't having it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, no, and that's and that's unfortunate too, because at
the end of the day, it is a game, and
you would think that those relationships would be able to
carry past all the hoopla.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Out, especially when I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
No, nothing, And that's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And that exactly, that's what I kind of feel like,
is the crazy part, Bobby is It's like, I don't
think that I deserve some of the treatment that I've
gotten from some of these house guests, and they know
who they are, but like, I haven't done anything. I
didn't do anything on the show. I was very supportive
to people on the show. I wanted to help them
and work with them and explain to them from my
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wisdom and my point of view to my own detriment,
to my own detriment. I was there to help them
and to you know, work with them on things, and
a lot of people not would not accept that. So yeah,
I don't know, there's not I mean, there's like, look,
(26:40):
there's nothing I can do. I mean, yeah, that would
be that's I'm not expecting that to ever happen.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't think that will ever ever happen. So what
are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I do want to get to human this question. It's
going to go back to Big Brother twelve, so bear
with us. I'm trying to keep it on twenty seven.
But there was a superjet what was the week after
told his lie? Like if you can remember that far?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh god, I don't remember. I think when I mean,
we all believed it, you know, like I we I
questioned it, and then you kind of felt guilty for
questioning it, and you're like, oh am I allowed to
question that? Am I allowed to say something? And then
Andrew Gordon would be like, but I am a doctor.
I went to medical school and Brennan was in medical school.
And they're both like I don't and then we're like,
(27:25):
you know what, forget it, We're not going to question it. Yeah,
exactly was this a fair play two point zero? Maybe
we don't know it was. Was that what Matt was
going for? That was a long time ago, but yeah,
I think I think that is what he was going for.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, we actually had Matt on the stream during during
your season when you're on twenty seven, we had him
on here. So if you get a chance go check
it out because he was talking great things about your game,
like he was talking how he was so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So it was a lot of fun having him on.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He's the best and you know him and see and
that's the thing, like he right in myself. We're all
such good friends. I'm so good for I'm like, I
would definitely say I'm the best friends with people from
Big Brother twelve and from Big Brother thirteen and I
and Big Brother seasons. I wasn't even on. I'm very
(28:16):
I'm very good friends with some of these other house guests.
So again, to me, it just blows my mind because
I'm such a big Brother. I'm so supportive of my
Big Brother family and my community from Big Brother, So
I it does kind of it is kind of disappointing.
I guess that's it. Yeah, but what do you do?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
What do you need?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Honestly, people either come around or whatever. You don't need
them in your life and whatever, that's their loss. At
one point during the season, Kelly was shown on the
live feeds me midway through the season, just then realizing
that the live feeds were twenty four to seven. What
are your thoughts on having mainly recruits, and should production.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Do more to inform these recruit recruits.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That it's actually a live show, you know, twenty four
to seven.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I just wish they would have watched the seasons like
that wasn't listen. I've talked to the casting team. They
tell them specifically to watch the seasons. They say, look,
you need to watch season twenty six, you need to
watch season twenty five. Go back like your homework is
from now until you go on the show. To watch
(29:28):
the show and to understand the show. Go through the
live chats, go through the youtubes, watch the podcasts. So
it's not for lack of the production team or the
casting team to try to get them to watch the
show and to learn about it. It's just the fact is,
it's like you can't you can What is it the
saying you can bring a horse to water, but you
can't make them drink. And that's unfortunate because a lot
(29:51):
of the people I think, even like a Kelly, I
think she and outside of the house, Kelly is so great.
Like I know a lot of people are like Kelly
in the house, I don't know who that girl was
because out of the house she's so different. Yeah, it's
so crazy, and so I wish that we got to
know the Kelly who I think she would have. I
(30:14):
think she would have been such a great, like a
great Big Brother player if she would have learned a
little bit more about the game, because I know, like
there was there were parts of her that I saw
and I was like, Kelly, you could be a good
Big Brother player. But then it's like, but you like
put your own foot in your mouth. She was her own, yes,
(30:40):
she always was. And then it was like she didn't
know about how the game would play out, and she
didn't know about how the game listen. I literally, okay,
I went, this is another thing. I literally broke down
and told like Ashley and Keanu. I told them the
exact things that would happen at the from jury to finale.
(31:02):
I said, this is the competitions that you will see.
These are what you need to This is what you
need to study. I would ask them questions, what are
you studying? Are you like, how are you studying? Do
you know the days? Do you know that this is like?
And they literally I would be like, you need to
be doing these things. I literally told Keanu the winning
that fifth h ooh was the most important HH that
(31:23):
he needed to win that, and he did not believe me.
He did not believe me, And I was like, you
have to win the fourth veto, the fourth Final four
veto because that's the most important veto. And I was like,
if you can't win these, it's fine. But like when
I was talking to Ashley about it, I'm like, you
(31:44):
have to make sure that you make the right decision
the final two. And Ashley knew that because Ashley was
very smart, she was very willing to listen to things.
She was very like, she asked me great questions. And
you know, Ashley had other friends from Big Brother and
she asked them question She was and she wanted to learn,
and she was a fan and she I think that
(32:05):
people don't give Ashley enough credit for all the game
moves that she was making as well, and how she
was so strategic because she was so she played the
game so strategically, and I think she just did such
a great job at uh that she did such a
great job at playing. Sorry, we just got a text
from Omar about the are you going to the Hearts
(32:26):
of Reality this year? I might over the edge.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, I'm over that. I'm still thinking about I was
talking fair play about it. So we'll we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Okay, good, he's going to be there, I think.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I've actually never been to one of those events
they do, the one that's here and actually where I
live in Temecula.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, the Reality Rally Reality Rally. So I've been to
that because it's literally in my hometown.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Wait, we went to that one, like together, didn't we?
When did we talk about this?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I think we've talked about this before we were there
at the same time, but I didn't know you as
well as I know you now obviously, And then also
I've talked you a couple of times at REHAP events
before we ever did the podcast together.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yes, that's great, Yeah, yeah, no, of course, of course.
But sorry, what was I talking about? Oh? Yeah about
the Ashley. Actually, she was so like her social game
should be studied, Like she was so good at playing
the social game, and people did not give her enough credit.
(33:25):
And I think that she just played such a great
social game and she was so good at making, like
she always says, making allies out of enemies. And Ashley,
Ashley had the chance to use me as a shield,
and she had the chance to use like her wins
to stay in the game when she needed to, and
(33:47):
she she I think if she ever went back on
Big Brother, she'll play a great game too, Like she's
just she's really smart. So which said, I could hear
the lawyer whispering under Ashley's persona. I know, Oh, I know, Kate.
It's so true. It is so true. And she had
great conversations with everyone too. Morgan played a great game too,
(34:10):
and I think Morgan wanted to learn about Big Brother
to see that this is the thing throughout the season.
But them, as much as people didn't want to listen
to what I said, and as much as people did
not like, I don't know what, I don't know what
they were thinking, but yeah, uh, Morgan and Ashley did
(34:32):
ask me a lot of good questions and they would
want they would. They did come around, and I think
that I would love to see them play again. So
as far as like hiring recruits or casting recruits or whatever,
it's gonna be something they're gonna do every year, and
I think they need to because it does good. It
does bring a good dynamic to the show, and it's
(34:53):
a little bit different than like Survivor. They only cast
super fans, right, so it's a little bit different. But
I I think it is interesting because it's such a
long show. You have the chance of being a recruit,
getting your feet wet, and not playing like a recruit
the rest of the season. You can go in and
you can get a feel for the game the first
(35:14):
few weeks. Sure there will be twisted, sure that things
will change, but like at the end of the day,
you can evolve as a player like Ashley, right like
she and Morgan. Morgan was the recruit, like, but look
at how great of a player she was, right like, Yeah,
she ended up being such a good player and such
a good person to have on this season. So I
(35:36):
think it's just like you have to, you know, go
in there with the mindset that you're going to learn
about the game, you're going to play, and you're gonna
like evolve throughout the game because it just changes every week.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I think this was actually a very good question by Mary.
It was kind of uppear a little bit, so let
me find it real quick there it is. Do you
think does Rachel agree that the comparison that Ashley played
a Steve game or it was more like Will Kirby
because I think that was like a big CenTra.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's a great question. Yeah, no, and I agree, And
I think it was more of a will game. And
I think because her she was always strategically there. She
was playing a strategic game like she taught. And by
the way, the live feaeders knew this because she talked
to the cameras and unfortunately she didn't get to do
a lot of DRS about her strategy. But you know
what blew my mind, which I didn't know until I
(36:24):
saw in Terren's Great Deep Dive, she actually uh told
Lauren to use the veto the week The week of that,
I was ah to h and was like, yeah, you
should totally use it, like you should tell And by
the way, I'm glad she did. But at the time,
if I knew that, I think I would have been
really frustrated with her because I didn't want her to
(36:45):
use a veto. I wanted Vince to go home. And
I talked to her about this after I watched Terrence
Deep Dive, because I watched all this stuff. I watched
the show as soon as I got off the show.
Because I was doing a deep dive. I wanted to
make sure I knew what the you were saw. Then
I watched Ashley's deep dive, I watched Keanu's deep dive.
I watched I think we're the only two that did
(37:07):
the deep deep dives and myself, and then but I
watched all the other interviews people did, and I watched
live feed clips, so I could kind of get a
very well rounded idea of what was going on, not
just from my point of view, but from everyone else's
point of view. But I talked to Ashley about this,
and this was never something that we had talked about
in public, but she said that she really thought Vince
(37:29):
had didn't have the votes to go home and he
would have stayed, so it would have been Mickey or
Morgan going home. And she knew that if she didn't
get Lauren to use that veto that there would be
absolutely no change, and she didn't care if it was Kelly.
She thought I was gonna put Kelly up, and so
she thought we'd be able to vote Kelly out, but
she didn't care who it was. But she knew if
(37:50):
it was Mickey or Morgan that that was bad for
both of our games. And I was like, yeah, I
mean at the at the time, I thought I could
have gotten Vince to go home, but we we the
votes after we talked about it, and I was like, yeah,
I don't know if I would have had the votes
to get Vince to go home.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah. No, I mean that that's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think that that actually was something we brought up
on stream too after the show ended. So I want
to kind of get to after the show, just this
first minch here, because this was one question I really
wanted to ask you after the show ended. How did
you decompress and how long after the show did you
start watching the live streams, live feeds, episodes, podcast, et cetera.
Because I feel like you deep dived quick I did.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's funny. I never did for twelve or thirteen, but
this season I was just like full blown. I'm like,
let's go, let's get give it to me. I couldn't
get enough. Brendan was like, Rachel, are you sure this
is healthy? I was like, it's fine. But the thing
is I actually didn't need to mentally decompress because I
had already taken myself out of the game when I
(38:50):
was in the jury house. I guess like I had
three weeks of that decompression. But also I have done
this for so many years and so many times that
I think at the end of the day, it was
just like I you know, I just feel like it
(39:10):
was when I just went back to the world world,
you know what I mean. Like I didn't take anything personally,
I didn't take anything. I didn't care. It was like, Okay,
it's over, it's time to move on. But I did
immediately watch live feeds. I went through Twitter, I went
through jokers. I tried to pull clips, I tried to
(39:31):
pull quotes because I wanted to kind of get the
opinions of other people too, because I didn't want to
I wanted to understand how everyone was seeing the game
and not just myself. I don't want to come at
it in just like my own point of view, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, of course, And you may ask outside of yourself
and the people who play baby with, who is your
favorite winner?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh, my favorite winner? Not from ash okay. I mean,
obviously I love Taylor's win. That was a great win, right,
we all love Taylor's win. I mean, Xavier had a
great win too, Like it's kind of hard to say.
Like the past few seasons, for as much as people
(40:19):
can plain, they have been really great winning seasons, and
the winners have really stepped up their games and really
deserved these wins. And for all for different reasons too.
Write like Ashley's game, Ashley's win was very strategic and social.
Chelsea's win was they I felt like Chelsea's win was competitive,
(40:39):
it was very well rounded, it was competitive, it was
social strategic. Taylor's win same thing, like, it was very
strategic and social, and she won competitions when she needed to.
So I think it's interesting to see even Jag Jag won,
like so many compet how many competitions did you win?
In case Kate Casey Like, yeah, Casey's still winning everything.
(41:05):
It's like Casey comes on season twenty seven and wins everything.
It's just like, I mean, Casey's a great winner because
I love watching Casey compete. And when you watch Casey compete,
because Casey wins everything, you're just like, yeah, of course
Casey's gonna win. You know, like Casey should win, she shouldn't.
She needs to win. But I think, my face, I
(41:29):
don't know, I don't know if I have a favorite
besides myself.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's fair because she's my girl.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
If Okay, so, if Rachel now could talk to Rachel
at the beginning of Big Brother twenty seven, what would
you tell her?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
What advice would you give her?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, well, Bobby, I can't say my honest opinion on
this because we're live, but there is advice I would
give myself. Let's just say this. Don't be so open
and trying to help everyone, Rachel, because at the end
of the day, you don't owe them anything and they're
(42:07):
not going to help you. They don't want to help you,
and they don't want to listen to you, So that
that would be my advice.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, I would still want I would still like. I
love my relationship with Jimmy. I love my relationship with Ashley,
I love my relationship with Amy. You know, I really
love that I got to become friends with them and
I you know that's that those are the things about
Big Brother that people don't care as much about, but
(42:37):
like to the players, it's really special.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
If you played again or you know, potentially you know,
I know you've said what you've said about possibly playing again,
maybe be in condensed Winners version.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, that would be the only way.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
So, now, if you did play Survivor, because I know
you said you applied for Survivor, would you play the
same version of yourself or would you completely reinvent the
character architect that you came into the last few seasons.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Okay, wait, should I say this on this podcast because
potential Survivor winners, potential Survivor players are watching, uh, and
I'm going to win, So I have a plan.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
We'll put it this way. I have a I have
a full plan for Survivor, and it's completely different from
how I've played any other reality show game, so I
think it'll be very interesting. But from the research I've
done on Survivor winners, you it's a different type of
(43:37):
game and the way to win Survivor is totally different
than any other game competitive game show. So I think,
you know, that's what We'll leave it at that because
I want to you don't know who's watching, who's also playing,
(43:57):
who I'm going to be a Survivor with.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I appliged for this season, for the fifty one and
fifty two, so hey, maybe we'll see together.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
No, I mean here there, I know that you'll work
with me.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I was talking because on stream people were saying like
that when we found out you were on the cast,
and then I was doing this scream here without you,
I was like, I don't have Rachel here, but I
guarantee you if I would have been in that Big
Brother twenty six for twenty seven hours, I would have
ran into Rachel. Oh man, it would have been game over.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
It would be game over, I know, and I needed
I needed that. But you know what, everything turned out
how it was supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, I want to get to Kate's super chat. Are
you really down for Survivor? Will you have a sad
backstory for your retrospective segment?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
My retrospective backstory is this mastermind. My sad story is
going out in a crazy twist that has never been done.
So I think that that's my sad story. I think
that there's a lot of I think that there's a
lot of way Survivor tests your mental capacity differently than
(45:04):
any other show. And I'm excited for that challenge because
I think that, I mean, if I get the opportunity right,
I think that it challenges you in a different way
than I've ever been challenged on a show. You're not eating,
you're not really sleeping. Well, there's bugged all over you.
You're not having the opportunity to go get glammed out.
(45:26):
You probably do feel you know, you feel like you
have to completely give up control, which is something that
I you do do in all these reality shows. You
have to give up control. But like I was watching
an interview that Poverty did and it was just about
how much control you have to be willing to give
up to be a good survivor player. And then I
(45:49):
watched a similar interview that Rachel, the winner of forty
seven just to forty seven Yes, and was giving a
similar retrospective opinion about the amount of control that she
felt she had to like just lean into this this
(46:12):
environment that you when you're playing survivors. So yeah, so
I think that it will be a different Rachel that
we've ever seen. And I'm hoping, I mean, I'm hoping.
I don't know, we'll see what happens. I mean how
I mean, I don't know. You it's like one of
those things where, too you you think that you're going
(46:33):
to go into something in a certain way, and then
I wonder if in that situation, you do have the
opportunities to change certain things about yourself, or if you
just fall back into your old I don't want to
say habits, but you're what you're comfortable with, because as humans, like,
is that what we do? Right, Bobby? Like, as humans,
when you're when you're tested in ways that you are
(46:54):
not used to, or when you're tested and you're put
to the extremes, you tend to go into a comfortable
mental space to like survive, right, And so I wonder
if I wonder if that is something that is just
part of the human experience or if it's something that
you can truly change. Maybe that's my question. Maybe that
(47:16):
that's my That's when I tell Jeff Propes when I
get the interview.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, well, honestly, because Rachel, like when you and I
talked during when we were doing the podcast during twenty six,
you and I had discussed at one point and I
had asked you if you ever went on Big Brother,
would you change up your gameplay? And this is Youah,
prior to us knowing you'd ever be on Big Brother
twenty seven, that's true, true, And you said, I don't
think I could play differently than I have I've matured.
(47:41):
I'm a mother now, I definitely have adapted in that
in life, as you know, I think as you get older,
everyone can attest to that. And so I don't know
if I go in if I could necessarily change. And
this is I remember you telling me this because it
was so distinct in my memory that You're like, I
would change in the fact that I feel like I
would build relationships more. But but I don't know when
(48:01):
I'm in there is the Rachel going to come out?
Or is the Rachel going to be, you know, a
condensed version of Rachel. And I think watching you now
on twenty seven, having remembered you tell me that it
was yourther on stream offstream, I don't remember, it really
resonated me to me because I was watching you on
twenty seven. I wanted to see how that pandemic because
when are we ever going to get this opportunity where
I ask you then the next season we're on before me.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Even think about me being on. That's so true.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
This was like, yeah, this was way back like we
we had that was not even probably an option at
the time. They were still doing Big Brother twenty six,
so it was just fun to watch me. So you do,
and I think you did it so well, and I
think you played to the best of your abilities, and
I think that.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
There was nothing you could have done differently. You literally
were never nominated, You were never in someone's initial target,
and for someone to come in with such a big
you know, the piece of the franchise coming in, you know,
and to never have that target be on your back,
it was so impressive. And I definitely have you on
the mount rushmore big brother players. Oh thank you. I
(49:03):
don't think anything can change.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
And if you go and play Survivor, I think you
can do exactly the same thing.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, I mean we'll see. I mean if if if
I get lucky enough, right, we'll see. I think I
think that. I think that too. I think because Survivor,
and you're a Survivor fan as well, like so, I
think because Survivor is such a different game, I think
you do have to kind of model a strategy around
that because it's more so Survivor. You play as a
(49:32):
group so much so, and I know, like learning from Traders,
the biggest especially to the people that had never played
Traders before a reality show before the biggest slap in
the face to them was working building a relationship together
in a group and then having that person, that same
(49:53):
person who you have to essentially work side by side
and you know, figure stuff out with that person, that
same person then turn on you. I think that to them,
that was the biggest betrayal. And a survivor is built
on that type of extreme scenario, right like where you
(50:16):
are working together as a tribe to survive, You're working
together as a tribe to compete, You're working together as
a tribe for chat, for food challenges. You know. Yeah,
so because of that, the betrayal probably is so that
much more intense. But I don't know. I mean I
don't I will see. I mean, who knows if I
even get the chance, right.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, So I I know that you gotta I know
that you got to get going here soon. So I
just have a couple more questions.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I'll just get the word and then I'll we can
keep chatting. I know, I'm like going off top. I'm
going off script so much. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I love this because I the whole thing is this
is a live stream. It's not your traditional like we're
going to break down the game exactly in order, Like
we're just going we're flowing. We're just talking as friends
and discussing at all. Carson gu Geo says, what was
your favorite season to play in BB? Also, you're such
an icon and I love you on BB Carson.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yes, okay, So I like think my favorite season to
play was thirteen because I won clearly, so right, it
was like, way is way better. I got to play
with Brendan, it was It's nice to play with Brendan.
I'm so lucky that I have Brendan because just the
fact that you have that one person that you can
(51:29):
just rely on and trust so much no matter what
in any of these games is such a gift and
a blessing. And being able to do that with him
twice was kind of crazy that we got that opportunity twice.
So on twenty seven I had to play by myself
and it was a little more challenging, but I did.
It's not that I didn't enjoy playing twenty seven. I
(51:51):
did enjoy being able to kind of take that challenge
on and being able to do it by myself. And
like we had talked about evolving as a person and
be able to have that strategy going in getting to
know people, forming those relationships right away. So I don't know.
I think I think thirteen probably because I won. Yeah,
(52:12):
but I think twenty seven was kind of cool. It
was fun, it was cool, It was a unique experience.
Twelve will always have a special place in my heart
is my first season. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
There is a day, says by the way, we were
all rooting for you so much and hated to see
you go out the way you did.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Bobby was not happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
I had probably one hundred and fifty people here on
my stream when we immediately found out the news we
were It was a Vince session.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
I'll tell you what. If you could see the amount of.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Outrage on social media, and I know you've probably seen
aspects of it, but in the moment, it was like
I thought the house was going to burn down. I
thought people were going to go and start packingting the lot.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah. They people told me the internet crashed. Yeah, but
like they like they said, like figuratively, figuratively, it was
like everybody from like use outlets to the social media people,
like the trending. It was a way the fandom has
not come together in such a long time. And I
think that that's I mean, what an honor. I mean,
I know that's like honor, but it sucked for me.
(53:12):
But like that's kind of it's so crazy that that happened,
and that I had so much support of people that
were really sad that I got to go. So you know,
now everyone wants to see my redemption. That's like the
best part of that and I and it is iconic.
I mean, look, it's I What am I gonna do?
I can't I can't press rewind right, I can't go
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back in time. I can say whatever the twist. Nobody
liked it, But what are you going to do about it?
They said they're going to do it again, So we'll
see how it works out if they do it again.
I know, I I think there's other ways they could
have done it. But at the end of the day,
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it was done. What's done is done. And I get
to say I was never nominated. I was never a
victim by these new bees, which I don't hate. I
don't hate bragging about.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, you're the only player to not ever be have
a vote.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
You never have a vote against me, and so I
think that that's pretty cool, which also is kind of
so interesting because you know, you said I wasn't a target,
and I felt like, right, I was not necessarily like
the first target or the initial target. But I think
I was a target the whole time because going back
and watching especially deep dives and stuff and live fees,
there was talk of getting me out and who was
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going to do it, when were they going to do it,
and let's do it this week, and then it was
always like no, no, we can't do it this week.
So I think I was always a target, it was
just not ever people were And because of that persona
that big over, don't touch the fire, don't let the
fire get too hot. Because of that, you know, I
was able to think stay off the block and have
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people not want to nominate me. And then the week
that Morgan would have come for me or Mickey would
have come for me. I so it was like I knew,
I knew I needed to win that week, and I won,
and I think that that, you know, was a great week.
It turned out to be such a good turning point
in the game. And yeah, huge turning point in the game.
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I don't know that Ashley would have won if Riley
would have gone home that week, So it's just like
such a big turning point in the game. I don't
think I would have made it much further if Riley
would have stayed, because I think that that other group,
that other alliance would have probably started to come for
the people I was working with. So you know, you
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never know. It's just kind of like one of those
obviously expect the unexpected things, but I don't know. I
always do kind of play the what if game?
Speaker 1 (55:49):
If that with that well, yeah, honestly, I think that
if the veto doesn't get used there, it's a completely
different week and the game might be completely different. Like
as much as you hated the veto getting played in
that moment, I think it was the best thing to
happen to you and your alliance because Riley didn't have
a lot of control in the house, even if he
might not have been completely aware of it, he had
everyone eating out the palm of his hands, which shocked
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us the viewers, especially from what we saw on the outside.
But yeah, it was If he doesn't go out there,
I think it could have been a drastically different game,
oh one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
And I mean thank god he did, because I mean,
and he might have won. Like that was the way
that the house was headed. It was like I literally
I keep saying this over and over, but it was
literally he had his showmance, he had the bromance, He
had the girl Kelly who was like, you know, uh,
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gonna ride or die for him. So at the end
of the day, like he really had everything. And the
fact that we were even able to get him out
that week was so close. I don't know that we
would have been able to get him out any other week.
And the only reason it worked is because it was
him against Morgan, because if it was him against the Key,
it wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
So it was it was a thought for that. Yeah,
I mean it worked out.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
Now here's the last question I want to ask you
before I want to get out of here, because I
know you got stuff to do, and I appreciate you
once again for being here doing this time.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
I hope we can like do this again in the future.
Time worked.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
I mean, I would love to have you on the
stream or talk about Survivor. Doesn't have to be a
big brother, we can talk about whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Well, I see everyone wants to talk about TAR thirty eight,
so we'll have to come back and talk about TAR
thirty eight because I have thoughts. Yes, yes, First of all,
did everyone hear that Joseph said I love you to
Taylor before he jumped out of the airplane. So I
just that's my I'll leave it at that. We can
talk about that later.
Speaker 3 (57:44):
Let's definitely come back to that. Now. My question does
kind of revolve around this my last question.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, Now I can't remember the exact timeline, but when
you went into the house or when you were possibly
in you know, sequester, did you find out the cast
of Survivor fifty and did you find out the cast
of Traders season four?
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Well, we already knew that, so I don't really know.
I think we well, we knew Survivor and didn't we
know Traders? Because I swear we talked about this last
of the Reality Queens. Because okay, so we definitely talked
about Traders, because that came out. That must came out
whenever they said, well, I think it was before the
(58:24):
cat they I think the Traders season was revealed the
second Traders got into Scotland. They went to Scotland, Peacock
released it the official statement, So it must have been
like April and we were still doing our podcast and
then yeah, and then after that. I think it must
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have been the season fifty must have been released right
after that, because we also remember we still thought fair
Play might be in the running for fifty.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
At the time.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Well, let's just say fair Play has some thoughts on that,
that's for sure. Oh okay, Oh he's I don't want
to say anying because don't want to ruin the chances
of every game on. But he was very upset about
how everything played out.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, yeah, of course that's what I was going to say.
There's always another season where they'll do they bring back
people so much on that show.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yes, absolutely, all right, So I want to say thank
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Everything we see here is for you, the chat. So
I appreciate you and Rachel. Where can everyone find you?
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Thank you at Rachel Eiley v I guess and then
on the Reality after show because I'll be coming back
to talk about other stuff. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Love it. I can't wait till we can sit down
and talk again. This is so much fun.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah. No, It's always fun to chat with you, and
I feel like you and I bounce ideas off of
each other so much. So well, so I think that
we both have plenty of opinions. I mean, and this
chat they are just all this chat today. They are
all about some stuff they're saying. I'm like, wow, I
told you Nichol, I.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no Nichols very very adamant about enemies.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah yeah, like for sure. But yes, Kate, thank you, Kate,
we love you. Happy Thanksgiving to all, Yes and Matt
and Mary. I feel like I know half of these
people too, right, because so we'll have to. We'll come
back and Ruby and humane like all of you all,
thank you for coming and thank you for hanging out,
and come back when we do more stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yes, no, we love it, We love having you here,
and I hope we get to talk more in the future.
And then honestly, like like you said, we bounce off
so well together.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I just can't wait for the next stream. I really
look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So with that too, yes, So with that being said,
thank you Rachel Riley for talking Big Brother twenty seven
with us. Give us a like, give us a follow,
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We will see you in the next one guys. Peace
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all right, Rach