"This Week on Reality TV" - Reality After Show - Reality After Show

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Speaker 1 (00:46):
What's up everybody. Welcome in hope you guys are having
a wonderful Friday afternoon. Happy Friday to everybody. I hope
you guys are having a great one. I'm happy to
be here today. If you guys didn't get to check
it out, yesterday, I did my exit interview Q and
A with Rachel Riley herself from Big Brother twenty seven,

(01:06):
also from twelve to thirteen, but well, we talked mainly
about twenty seven, and man, what a great interview it was.
If you guys haven't been able to check it out,
go back at after show on YouTube. You can find
the recording. Go on there, give us a like, give
us a thumbs up, leave a comment, let me know
if you liked that interview. And Rachel says she's gonna
be on for more interviews here soon in the future,

(01:28):
so really looking forward to that, hopefully having her on
to podcasts regularly with us. She says she wants to
talk Survivor next week, so fingers crossed we can get
her on for our Survivor content next week, especially, I
think Johnny's gonna be gone next week, so if we
could switch her for Johnny for a week, I think

(01:48):
a lot of people would like that. I think it'll
be a lot of fun. Be happy to talk any
reality TV with Rachel again. She was a great time.
So if you guys can go back to that video,
give us a like, give us a comment in the
com section. Every little bit helps get that out in
the algorithm and gets it in front of more people. So
the content for today that I decided to talk about

(02:10):
was reality TV this week. We've had so much reality
TV this week, so much that I couldn't even keep up.
I couldn't even catch up on the show a few
of the shows I wanted to catch up, bun, So
forgive me for not talking Traders Canada or Amazing Race.
I still need to catch up on this week's episodes
of that of those shows, respectively. So I apologize that

(02:32):
I won't be talking those shows, but kind of a
shocker will be talking a little Dancing with the Stars
with you guys. I know, I know, I've never talked
Dancing with the Stars. It's not my show. My wife
likes that show, but every single Tuesday night, I get
off work and I come home and she's got it
on and I have to sit through Dancing with the Stars,

(02:53):
So I've now gotten a little bit invested in Dancing
with the Stars, not fully. I still I am not
one hundred percent on like all the people there, but
I do have some takes on my opinions on things
when it comes to Dancing with the Stars, So we
will be talking a little bit of that. Also, Squid

(03:13):
Games to Challenge came out this week, one of my
favorite shows on TV. I know it's not everyone's cup
of tea, but I love it. Actually might have some
surprise guests on today's stream here in just a little bit,
so I'll leave that open to the anticipation of who
it may be. I think I gave a little bit
of a hint there when I said Squid Game, So
definitely looking forward to that. I'd be talking breaking that

(03:37):
all down because I have some thoughts. I love this season.
I think it's better than season one. I think it's
captivating TV. I think that they have they're getting closer
to like completely nailing the premise, and I'm excited for
the next batch of episodes. I really am. I have
nothing bad to say about it so far, so we'll
be talking about that. And as always, one of my

(03:59):
favorite shows on TV, Everyone's favorite show on TV, Survivor.
We'll be having some Survivor chat as well, so get
your comments red live. Now we are at the Merge.
I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on the Merge.
I will try not to be too negative since people
don't like that, but I don't have a lot of
negative I think this was the best episode of the
season by far, so I'm very much so looking forward

(04:20):
to your thoughts and getting your questions and comments read
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(04:41):
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(05:01):
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something to say about reality TV. So definitely look forward
to that. Let's get to the comments section. See that
you guys are coming in full force today. Mary says

(05:23):
glad I didn't so a deep dive with Rachel and
went off script. Uh yeah, so yeah, No, I figured
the deep dive was kind of already done right, like
she's got done many actual like exit interview, deep dive
kind of things. I wanted to go kind of off script.
I wanted to get your guys's questions read live here

(05:43):
on stream. I appreciate to all those people that did
do their the super chats. That helps me out a lot,
and it was really cool to see you guys get
involved in the chat in that way. So I appreciate
you guys. Like I said, it's never you know, mandatory
or anything like that, but anything you guys can do
to help the stream, help me get my content out
in front of more people. Anything, you guys do super chats,

(06:05):
what have you. It always helps and it's always very
much so appreciate it. So you guys came in full
force yesterday, So I appreciate each and every one of you.
And like I said, yeah, Mary, I wanted to do
it where it was more so for the fans, right,
so like this is your guys' time, and I apologize.
And there was a lot of comments. I couldn't get
to everyone's comments. I tried to get to as many
as I could. I got to all the superchats, but

(06:26):
I also wanted to get my questions in that I
wanted to ask Rachel interview style and I hope you
guys appreciated that, and I hope you guys understood that
I tried to get to as many comments as I
could in the tight time frame that I had, So
I hope you guys enjoyed that content. B Nicol, I
tried my best I tried to be on my best
behavior yesterday. You did fine, you if I honestly, I

(06:46):
love how much you were talking about friend mees and
like how like Rachel saw all the comments. Rachel was
reading it all. So it was a lot of fun.
It was a lot of fun. I think everyone enjoyed it,
so I hope you guys did if you haven't checked
it out. Like I said after show on YouTube, go
check out my Rachel Riley Q and a Slash interview.
It was a lot of fun and I can't wait
to have her back. She's so down to come back.

(07:09):
Survivor was good, finally, thank you, I know, right like,
we actually had a very fun episode. I thought that
the merge episode was fantastic. I think that this this
game is really kind of taking into its own. I
think we're gonna have some muddiness here soon. I don't
think it's gonna go completely according to plan from what

(07:30):
you know, basically Uli tribe versus Thehena tribe essentially with
the two Kle original Kale members in between. But it
is interesting to see the tide shift, right Like, obviously,
if you haven't seen the episode, spoilers are coming. I'm
gonna talk spoilers. So if you haven't seen Survivor, this
is year fair shot to go and come back when
we talk about other shows, but I will be talking

(07:53):
about this week's episode spoiler. So it's been a couple
of days. I feel like people have had time, so
without further ado, I was kind of shocked to see
Nate go home, Like Nate going home really shocked me,
But I think it was the right move. And honestly,
kudos to Stage, kudos to Juwan. I think that they
are playing fantastic games right now. They especially Stage, like,

(08:15):
I'm not gonna discount what Jawan did, but we got no,
we didn't get an explanation as to why all of
a sudden Juwan wanted to switch right Like at the
end of last episode pre so last week's episode, pre
going to actual tribal, Juwan was talking about how, oh,

(08:37):
I absolutely am uly strong. I don't want to take
out Shannon. I think we need the move is to
take out Steven, like you know whatever, whatever, whatever, And
they told him that basically, you know Shannon was coming
for him, but we didn't get that in between segment
where it goes from him learning that Shannon's coming after

(08:58):
him and realizing me, I shouldn't be Uly strong, to
all of a sudden a tribal council where he's full
on I'm gonna take Shannon out. We got him still
uly strong and then boom, Shannon out and then to
this episode where he's like, it's us three to the end.
You know, we're we're ride or die right here, like
these are the three the two other people I trust.
Like it was weird, there was no segment there that

(09:19):
gave us that clicking moment. But kudos to Sage. I
think Sage, we're actually getting a lot more of her
storytelling when it comes to that, and I think that
it's so it's the right move, like when you have
a confessional from Savannah and I love Savannah. I think
Savannah is playing a great game. I think Savannah's a
very strong player, very strong female player, which is always

(09:42):
fun to see. And I think that she's someone I yes,
obviously she came from a position of power, but I
like to see the people challenged that have power, and
I think we're getting that now, and how do they
rise above it? Right? We know that Savannah is on fifty,
we know that Rizzo's on fifty, so there must be
something they do to rise above now that they don't

(10:05):
have the power in their hands, where they don't have
the numbers on their side. So I'm really looking forward
to see you know, these power players, you know kind
of like their downfall and how do they rise from
the downfall? And that's what I'm excited to see with her.
But when I go back to Sage, I think Sage
had the completely right read where we saw Savannah in

(10:27):
a confessional basically saying, yeah, Sage, like that's someone that
obviously I've wanted out for a while. But you know,
I'll work with her now until I can't use her anymore,
and then I'll let her go. And then literally, like
the next confessional is Sage being like, I know this
girl is absolutely using me as a vote right now,

(10:47):
has no plans on actually working with me, and probably
doesn't respect my decision. So I'm gonna let her feel
like I'm still with her and then do what I
can to get her out. Like that was so like
savvy of Stage. I think that she's playing a great game.
I think a very underrated game. I'm excited to see
where her game goes. But I'm all Queen Sage right now,

(11:08):
like Sage is playing fantastic. She's got great reads on
everything that's going on, so it's a lot of fun
to see. Let me get back to some more of
your guys comments. What do you name your chickens, you
can't choose general so in Teriaki, I always thought that
one of the best names that people had for chicken
for the chickens were breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I always

(11:31):
thought that was great. I was like that, that's true,
like that that would be me out there, like I'm sorry,
I don't have I don't have like a I'm not
gonna name the chickens because then when you name the chickens,
you just have an emotional attachment to them regardless, like
because they're then named, right, I mean, I always thought
that was the most fun for sure. I thought breakfast, lunch,

(11:51):
and dinner, then there's really no emotional attachment, but they
do have names. So I thought that was the best
and if I would name them the same thing. They
finally stopped doing Mergatory and we got an amazing Merge episode.
I mean, it's the right there, like the it shows
like everything right there shows that that's what we need

(12:11):
to do going forward. Like I think that what they did,
and I think they kind of lucked into it because
of the whole jake, you know, Metavac. We kind of
got put in this position that they were forced to
do it. This way, but I think it worked out,
and I think that the producers might see that, like
this is a good way of doing it. I think
the mergatory, it's it's Stiphen's gameplay, and I think that

(12:34):
doing a full merge of everybody there, I think it's
the best way to do it. I really think it's
the best way to do it, and I hope they
continue this going forward. However, I think that because of
the Metavac, that's the reason why we got what we got,
and we might not get that again just because it
just happened to be unique to this season. But I'm hopeful.

(12:57):
I'm hopeful. Let's talk about Sage quote, I'm a wolf baby.
I'm ready to eat her like I love it, like
Sage sees what's going on. There's a lot of times
in recent seasons, especially with these New Era seasons, where
these people don't see the riding on the wall. They
don't see that they are obviously on a tribe that's winning,

(13:22):
but they are not in the end circle of that tribe.
So they're just there for a means to an end, right,
Like they're just there so that the others can advance
through the game and dwindle the other side's numbers, and
then the other Uli will just take Sage and Juwan
out at some point. I love seeing them rise against that. Now,
I do think that they need to at a certain

(13:44):
point not go completely Heena strong, like, yes, you can
work with Steven, but you got to start dwindling the
other numbers too, because then you could have a Cochran
two point zero situation where Cochrane from his first season,
I mean where basically, yes, you go to the other
side and you start taking out your original tribe's numbers,
but then you get to the point where there's no

(14:05):
more members of that original tribe of yours, and now
you are the one, the easy one out, because you're
the last remaining survivor. So I think it's a little
bit more muddied. I think that there's a little more
fluidity when it comes to that because of the fact
that we do have two Kila members that are on
kind of in the middle, but also one's leaning more Heena,

(14:25):
one's leaning more Uli. But I do also think that
this season feels like it's gonna go kind of multiple ways,
like with the advantages with the Idols. Now that I
was really thinking that MC wasn't gonna play her idol,
and that at some point in the game SOF. I

(14:48):
guess we're calling her now, not Sophie Blue or Sophie B,
but we're gonna call her SOF, which I'm still not
getting used to. SOFH is gonna be I thought, because
she has I had the knowledge's power advantage. I thought it,
you know, in the next week or two to kind
of get the numbers back on their side. She was
gonna end up stealing MC's idol since she knew MC

(15:09):
had an idol. It was like the perfect situation. She
doesn't have to steal from Rizzo, she can steal from MC.
But now that MC played her idol, which was interesting,
she didn't need to. But hey, I always say if
you have any suspicion, if you're ever in this situation
where you just merge or you just swapped or what
have you, it's always best to use it if you

(15:29):
have it, because those are such unique scenarios where you
don't know one hundred percent where the votes are gonna fall.
So I have no problem with MC playing it there.
But now that EMC played it, the only one that
SO knows about is Rizzo's idol, if I'm correct, I
don't think she knows about anything else. I don't even
think is there anything else out there besides that. I

(15:51):
have to think because of the amount of advantages and
idols and stuff, I always get kind of lost in
the sauce. But yeah, I think that Rizzo's Idol and
so Advantage are the only two remaining ones in the game.
I'm kind of looking through all the cast right now.
I think that's it. So we'll probably see another idol

(16:11):
come into play here soon, like they'll probably have another
you know, Merge Idle Hunt or something or to that
extent in my opinion, because yes, we got the advantage
when they all went to the new Swap tribes, but
I think when it comes to Merge, I really think
that we're gonna get some kind of idol hidden out
there that someone's gonna find, especially since one was just used.

(16:34):
So we'll see. You need it to tell us to
watch squid Game, Bob, I have not watched yet. Oh listen,
I won't go too crazy. I'll let you know when
that time comes. I'll let you know when that time comes.
But honestly, Mary, you need to watch it. It's so good.
It's so good. And if you have to tune out,

(16:56):
if you guys have to tune out for that squid
game portion, that's totally fine. That's totally fine. I will
give you spoiler warnings before it comes. So for those
of you that don't want to be spoiled or don't
want to hear about the squid game just yet, if
you have to hop out watch it and come back
later and watch the you know, the stream on YouTube
after the fact, that's totally fine too. I just appreciate

(17:18):
you guys being here, but I will talk about other
things before we get to squid Games, because I do
have a couple surprises with squid games here later in
the stream. After seven episodes, did riz Flopp deserve his
spot on fifty? Yes or no? So I still think
it's early, Mary, I really do like as much as
I understand where you're coming from, where Rizzo really hasn't

(17:40):
given a lot. There's gotta be something there, right, There's
too much stuff that adds up to something has to happen. Now.
I want to give the caveat of we have Joe
from forty eight on this on season fifty, so it
doesn't necessarily mean that they have to do something amazing, right,
Like like Joe, kudos to him. He had the great

(18:03):
moment you know with Eva last season. Outside of that, yes,
he was like main character energy, but he was never
really doing too much. So I never really understood why
they want him back for fifty outside of the fact that, oh,
he's just beloved because of his treatment towards Eva. But
I was like, is that enough for fifty? Like? Is

(18:23):
that enough for three people from forty eight to be
on fifty? So there is precedence for riz flop. As
you would say. I still want to give the kid time.
I still want to give him his chance to prove
why he deserves to be there, but as of right now,
I don't see it. However, he does have an idol,

(18:47):
he does have someone on his tribe in his alliance
in sof that has an advantage, a big advantage. And
I still think things can flip flop. I really do,
so I'm giving I'm gonna give up myself some time
to let him cook. But it does put into question

(19:08):
the back of your head, are we gonna get anything
from him? Like like I go back to Gabe, right,
like Gabe from forty seven obviously one of my good friends.
He podcasts with me here on this after show. We
always made fun of him because and that's why his
podcast that he does is called Gabe's Big Move, because
he always kept talking about his big move that he

(19:30):
was gonna make that he know he wants to be
on the Mount Rushmore of survivor New Era, all this stuff,
and then we get to the point and he just
eventually goes home and we're like, where was that big move?
Where was this Mount Rushmore move that you keep talking about?
Because I don't see it, so you know, he's not
on fifty, but there there is an aspect of that

(19:50):
where they hype it up and then it just never happens.
But I feel like something's coming. I feel like something's coming.
All right, have it? Yo, that boy, Bobby, what's going on? Haveviit?
Thank you so much for joining the stream. I appreciate you.
B Nichol says, I really found it quite sad that
Rachel and Keanu seemed to have a following falling out.

(20:12):
I wanted her to know why Keanu was frustrating to
work with with the Frenemies made great TV. I hope
she appreciates that. So I talked to her a little
bit offstream about it, and I won't get too into
the weeds because I like to keep offstream stuff offstream,
but I did mention to her that, like, you know,
obviously people had a soft spot for Keanu, and I

(20:34):
understand how frustrating it was. And she understood too. She
was like, yeah, listen, Like I think that I tried
as much as I could to work with him, but
he just never would fully listen to me. And I
think we got that. I think we understood that because
even in his exit press with Tarn he kept talking
about how basically he was blindly loyal to Vince and

(20:58):
Riley because that was the first alliance he really made
from day one, day two, what have you. And we
didn't get see that because we didn't come on until,
you know, day six. So I think there's an aspect
of him being blindly loyal and that even though he
wanted to trust Rachel and wanted to work with her, like,
there was just something about in the back of his
head that would never fully trust her. And I think
that's what was honestly his downfall. I really do. So

(21:22):
I think that she understands that. I don't think. I
think that she obviously has. She has reached out to him,
and he hasn't, you know, responded back. So I don't know.
I don't know what's going on there. I don't know
if it's both or one side or what have you.
But I hope that they can make amends and eventually,
you know, I would love to see them on the
Amazing Race together. I think it'd be fantastic. I think

(21:45):
it would be a lot of fun. But I think
Rachel's got her eyes set on hopefully Survivor, and I'm
all for it. I would love to see her on Survivor.
I mean, I applied for Survivor this next upcoming go
about so you know, we'll see what happened. But could
you imagine if Rachel and I went out there? And
I highly doubt it will ever happen, but you know,

(22:07):
imagine Rachel and I were on the same season. Shit,
it just too much fun. Definitely be working with her.
Kate the Great One says I predicted Nate this week.
My reads are usually so off. I was sad for him,
but proud I figured it out. Honestly, I think we
got everything we needed from from Nate. I think he

(22:27):
was fantastic. I think he was playing a good game.
I think he just got kind of caught in that
weird no man's land where you are in a strong alliance,
but you are also not like one of the top
two in that alliance, so you're kind of like the
easy pickings where it's just the safer move. But I
love the edit that Nate got. I think we got

(22:49):
a lot of screen time of him. I love that
he's on the jury and he's like, you know, the
first jury member where he could have some sway. I
think that I think that I'm happy with what we
got from Nate and now I obviously for him, we
would have got more. I wish I had the clip.
Did you guys see the clip on this last week's
episode where he's like moving bamboo and he like picks

(23:10):
the bamboo up, and all of a sudden, this gigantic
spider goes running across the bamboo that was like right
next to his fingers, so wherever he grabbed the spider
was right there and took off down the thing towards
his other hand, and then it just cuts I was like, oh,
hell no, I understand you're out there and it's like

(23:31):
you're gonna be around that stuff. But just seeing the
spider go from basically one hand across the bamboos and
basically where his other hand was, I was like, and
he doesn't see it at all. If you guys can't
go back and check out that clip, because I'll have to.
If I can find it, I can pull it up
for you. But it was like, gave me the he
be gems. It was a gigantic ass spider too. I

(23:51):
was like, oh, hell no, I don't know why I
always seem to find those weird awkward moments. Uh, no way,
this seven verse three gonna stick. I definitely see Savannah
and Sof bounce back. I do too. I think I
think they're two strong, strong players. A lot of the
narrative for this season has come from those two perspectives.

(24:13):
I would also throw Sage in there, but we've really
gotten nothing from old Hena like Christina MC to a
small extent, Sophie starting to get more of an edit,
Steven to a small extent, but like realistically, the entire
season has been narrated from Sof and Savannah's perspective, with

(24:33):
some Rizzo and and Sage too. I would I put
Sage in that perspective era too. So I think that
those are the three and I love that it's three
strong women, soph Sage, and Savannah. I think that there's
gonna be something there. There's gonna be something there. Isn't

(24:55):
Sage a veteran. I need to know that part of
her story. I don't know. Actually I know know that
I don't know if she is. Maybe she is, says
on here she's a clinical social worker, but I mean
she could have been if so good on her, but
I'm not one hundred percent sure. Bobby, is there anything
in your life you would head first to grab quickly?

(25:22):
I'm trying to think what you mean by that. Hold on, say, Bobby,
is there anything in your life, maybe life, you would
head first to grab quickly? My kid, trying to think
what you mean by that. I'm trying to understand. Maybe
I'm misreading it, but let me know what you mean,
like Tatsuya, explain that again, because I'm trying to think

(25:42):
of what you mean head first to grab quickly? Are
you talking about on a show or in life? I
don't know, but if you're saying what would I grab
first if like the house was on fire, I grabbed
my kid, Not even a question. Sports cards, all that
stuff right there, they can all burn grabbing that kiddo first.

(26:03):
But if she's safe, sports cards are next. Sports cards
are next, for sure. Uh, that's without a doubt. And
my laptop all right, let me see here, you're actually
you just put it on here. Let me just read
this one. I'll go back to the others. Bobby, is
there anything in your life you would dive head first

(26:24):
to grab clearly like Savannah and the keys? Oh okay,
so if I had to, like I get, I get
what you're saying now. So if I had to grab
something quickly like that, hmm, that's a good question. I'm
trying to think, like what my context would be for
me trying to grab something quickly, like I said, like

(26:44):
the burning fire, obviously grab the kiddo. But yeah, in
my sports cards, like especially some of my bigger sports cards,
like no, no doubt in my mind, Uh, something I
would go dive to grab quickly. Oh man, that's tough one.
That is a tough one. Like I would dive head

(27:05):
first for a hundred dollars bill. Yeah, yeah, I would
dive for ae hundred dollar bill. I would also like
if there was an Amigos burrito, which is no one's
gonna understand that reference, but Amigo's Chili Verity burrito from Vcilia, California,
my favorite restaurant in the entire world, and my favorite
food in the entire world, from that restaurant that I

(27:28):
grew up eating all the time, Amigos vi Cilia, California.
If you are ever in the Central Valley, you have
to have Amigos chiliverit day. I'm telling you right now.
It's the best thing in the entire world. I would
ask my parents every time I go back to home
to visit them for holidays, whatnot. I have to get that,

(27:49):
like I tell them, like, you better go pick that up.
Like I'd rather go home to see that get that
than see family at times, just a kidding kind of
not no, but I'm so obsessed with it. I literally
will put it in like a bag, like get an
extra one to go home and bring it home with
me five hours all the way to back in southern

(28:11):
California and just have it sitting there in the car
and then eat it when I get home, Like I
am that crazy. I'm that crazy, So I guess that's
what I would say, even though none of you will
understand that reference. And I totally understand that this is
gonna be worse than yesterday by default. Well obviously nothing
is going to be as good as having Rachel on

(28:32):
here and he may. Thank you again for the super
chats yesterday. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for that.
You came in huge, and I appreciate it. Same with
the others. Kate, the great one, you two, you, everyone
that was here, even if you just left to comment,
didn't leave a super chat. You guys are all great.
But thank you so much to the people that did.
I watched enough Deep Dives to know that Loo. But
Keanu is stubborn. Yeah, like, and that's the thing. Like

(28:55):
Keanu at the end of the day, he was stubborn.
He was set in his ways at Rachel's set in
her ways, and it was like fire. And I guess
oil and water, I would say, is like the good
comparison to that. Give us a heads up if you
go to TAR thirty eight spoilers, please, I'm not caught
up now. I'm not gonna talk Tar because I'm not
caught up either, so I apologize to those TAR fans. However,

(29:18):
Rachel says she does want to come on and talk
about the season of TAR and Survivor, so she said,
now she's got a lot more free time, so I'm
planning to get her on anything I can get her on.
After the podcast, She's like, well, when when would work
for you next week? I was like, Rachel, literally, anytime
you want to come on, I will have you, Like
you could tell me it's Saturday at noon, and I

(29:39):
will stop what I'm doing and do a live stream
with you. Like anything you touch right now turns to gold.
So I'm totally on board for whatever you want to do.
So hopefully we will have her on here again soon. Oh,
we got a special guest joining us. Let me switch
camera angles what's up? Lauren?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
By going on.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Back?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm here.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
It's a Friday.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Couldn't be happier. Wow, what a week of reality television?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
A lot? Yeah, And I'm happy to have you here
because this is like one of those weird weeks that
we have just so much content that it's even hard
for me to catch up, Like I'm still behind on
the Amazing Race and behind on Traders Canada, just because
there's so much good reality TV out right now.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's everywhere. You can't complain if you're a reality TV fan,
this is the time of year for you. I mean
for me. I've been so heavily invested with season two
of The Challenge for Squid Game that my week has
been absolutely insane. We've already had a couple special guests
from the season that have come on the podcast, and

(30:44):
we have more coming. And I have a really special
guest that I locked down today which I am more
than thrilled about. So if you're a Squid Game the
Challenge fan, I have nailed down Sydney player number sixty
from the season, so it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Love it, love it so much. Obviously, we're gonna be
talking squid Games later on. I know that some of
you are not caught up on that, so we will
talk more Survivor and stuff right now with Lauren here.
But we do have some surprise guests later in the stream,
so really look forward to that happening in a bit.
But let me catch up on some of your guys's comments.
I agree Rizzo has been as good as Gabe and Honestly,

(31:27):
I think it's a very fair comparison, Like he's doing
stuff in his tribe right Like if you think about
Gabe in forty seven, he had his alliance with Sue
and uh, Catherine, Why am I blake you on her name?
What was the girl?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Oh it's Carolyn, Carolyn.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Thank you. I should have done that. Carolyn, Carolyn and Sue.
He had them locked down. He obviously was able to
make a blind side move to get out TK and
he really was, you know, fully in charge of that
Blue tribe when they had the numbers, you know, the
strong numbers on their side. Now they kind of got
screwed on the Tatiana vote. But I think that it's

(32:10):
very similar to kind of what Rizzo's going through right now.
Like Rizzo's comparison to Gabe, I think is a very
apt one because it's Rizzo's got the numbers. Now, he
hasn't necessariarily been a part of a big move yet,
but he's had the numbers. He's been on the strong
side with Savannah where he's basically locked in his number
two in that tribe, and now he's finally facing some adversity.

(32:33):
He does have an idol. He did have the balls
not to use the idol this week when he said
he was going to. I think it was a right move.
I've always said you should do something like that. Now
it took a lot of balls, though, because at the
end of the day, they could have tried to flush
it what have you, and then he would have just
been screwed. But I think they he must have seen
the riding on the wall. I'm interested to see where

(32:53):
we go with Gabe or with gabees he's being with Rizzo,
where we are getting further in this game. We do
know he's on fifty. What is the move that is
the concrete evidence as to why he deserved a spot
on fifty? What are your thoughts, Lauren?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, so here, let's talk about the idol real quick,
because having an idol puts you in the toughest position
for one of two reasons. I always justify it as
saying it's almost easier not to have one in your
pocket alone, because then you don't have the what if, Yeah,
what if I would have played it? Am I safe?

(33:30):
If I do play it? Am I burning my idol?
Versus if you are empty handed, you couldn't have done
anything about it. You just got voted out. So a
lot of scenarios come with an idol play correct move.
I'm not using it though, because the paranoid is absolutely there,
especially when you're in this stage of a vote. There's
so many names being floated around. People are talking. You

(33:51):
see them taking off with one another. Are they talking
about me? Or are they talking about somebody else? That's
all spinning through your mind as it's continuing to go on,
and we know this game is a lot quicker pace
than back in the day Survivor.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Now, I will say this too, where Rizzo did the
right way of playing it without playing it right where
he announced it, he knew everybody already had knowledge of it,
and that they all knew he had one. It wasn't
like it was a question, it was. It was very
much so out there. So then at tribal council to
pull it down and be like, listen, everyone knows I

(34:25):
have this. I'm gonna play it tonight because I might
as well flush it for myself at this point, since
everyone knows I have it, I'd rather be safe going
into the merge, just so you guys know, like it's
gonna get used. And that's putting it out there for
people that already had, you know, the question in mind,
will he use it? Will he not? We should go
probably for the safer vote because we know he has
it and he could use it. Then to publicize it

(34:48):
and be like listen, you guys are right, I do
have it. I'm gonna use it, then it's like okay, cool,
we don't have to go with him. We're gonna go
this way. Like yes, it was already locked in, but
it was the correct way to do it. If you're
gonna pull off that kind of you know, uh move
where you're going to confuse them.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, we have seen this not work in somebody's favor,
and I'm taking it over to the Australian version of Survivor.
So if you have not watched any Australian Insurvivor two,
out for a second. But Russell Hans famously had the
idol and told everyone he was going to play it,
and people read the bluff and they ended up voting

(35:27):
for him and he did not play his idol whatsoever.
So I'm just letting you know it's we've seen it
turn around the other way and it definitely backfires. But
in this scenario, Rizzo read it correctly and it worked
out for him, and you continue forward with having an
idol in your pocket.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I actually don't even disagree with Russell in that situation,
right because it's not it's a different situation where you're,
you know, the one of the only famous US Survivor players.
I think he was the only US Survivor player on
that season correct. It was the first time they had
ever done.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
That Champions versus Contenders.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yes, yeah, and he was the only US Survivor player
there and people knew who he was. So I have
no problem with Russell kind of taking a swing and
a miss there, because you know you're instantly target number one.
You publicize that you have that idol, and then in
that moment you're like, I'm playing one hundred percent right now,
I'm rolling the dice. I'm not playing it so that

(36:19):
I can save it for next round when I need
it again, because then if I don't have one next time,
I'm just an easy vote out. So I'm rolling the
dice that they're gonna be like, well, he has, when
he's gonna use it, let's go somewhere else and then
I can maneuver through the game with the people that
were blindsided in the vote, and I still have an
idol in my pocket. I actually have no problem with
Russell doing that, and I think the Rizzo situation is
a little different because it is all new people. It

(36:41):
is a little further in the game. But that's a
great example because I think that Russell in that situation,
I would have probably done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, you have to look at it from another avenue two.
If you are that good at finding idols, play it
really because then you probably can go back and find
another one tomorrow. If you just are a lucky person
and happen to, you know, come across it, then that's
a different story. But for him, he found idols all
the time, so maybe that was the correct move to

(37:11):
just go aheut and play anything. But it was such
a great finishing moment to see it go down that
the way it did, so I'm okay with it well.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
And also I've always said, too an Australian survivor, it
tends to be interesting how certain players always seem to
be the ones that find the idols. Where I'm not
saying it's rigged, but I'm not saying it's not set
up for those people to be in the correct spot
to find an idol, right, Like, I love King George,

(37:39):
but King George has found a million idols on this game,
and it's like, how is that possible for one person
to always find them?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And I'm not saying there's anything out there. I don't
know anything. I wasn't out there, But it always was
like a question in the back of my head too,
where it's like, how does Russell immediately find out? How
does King George continue to find idols at the exact
right time or when he doesn't have power and the
votes are against him, how all of a sudden is
it a oh, we're actually not voting someone out this

(38:08):
time kind of situation, you know, Like always, I just
always had my eyebrow raised in parts like that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Listen, check out Australian Survivor, folks, if you haven't seen it.
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
It's so good. It's it's great. I have nothing problem
with And like I said, this is my conspiracy theoriest
type thing, right, I want Rachel on Australian Survivor. I
want Rachel on American Survivor. I want to see her
on because we've had male Big Brother players play. It's
time to see a female Big Brother player out there.
I want to see Rachel. Of all people, Rachel Riley

(38:41):
would be the best one to put out there. She
wants to do it, she applied, Let's see it happen. Jeff.
Would Jeff accept Rachel on Survivor? I feel like he
would want a Caleb, So I guess that would be
a Keanu Tucker Cam Harden. That's the thing I don't.
I think that they want whatever's going to make good TV.
I mean, yes, at the end of the day, it's different.

(39:01):
It's not Big Brother, but I could see them wanting
to go the Rachel Riley train, like especially with her
being bold and beautiful, just coming off of Big Brother
twenty seven. Like CBS loves to use these retreads of
players that are big characters, and I could see not
even just Jeff, I could see CBS executives being like, hey,

(39:24):
Rachel wants to play, Let's do everything we can to
get her out there.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I think so as well. But if we're going to
Avenue where Mary's bringing up the Caleb route, let me
be very clear here, first and foremost, did we need
Caleb from Big Brother there were many other options and
choices that we could have had, and we landed on Caleb,
come on now. But I get where you're coming from
with the continent, Keanu Tucker Cam. I can see it.

(39:52):
But if Rachel is actively invested in wanting to go
on the show, I don't see why they don't take
this moment because now is the time. You might not
get this a couple more years down the road.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, I agree. I agree, Lauren. Are you watching Dancing
with the Stars or is that your cup of tea?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Or no, not my cup of tea. But I can dabble,
and if we are going to be speaking about I
can bring opinions and thoughts.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You and I are in the same boat. It's not
my cup of tea. But I come home every Tuesday night,
I get off work early, and my wife is fully
into that show that I have to. There's no convincing
her to change the channel or do something differently. And
here's the thing. She's watching the live stream on Hulu.
And we didn't realize until I think, like a week ago,

(40:41):
that she could fast forward through the freaking commercials and stuff.
And I'm like, are you telling me that I could
have we could have literally made this like an email
and fast forward through all the nonsense that all you
care about is actual dancing. I'm like, ah, it's so frustrating.
It's so long and be.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
American idol vibes, you know what I mean, where they
have everything in between and all you want to do
is just hear the people freaking sing.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's just it's rough. And here's the thing, Like, I
get it. I get why people like it. It's a
huge show. It's just not my cupta. I don't want.
I don't like fan votes. Two I don't like I
like competitive, like strategic reality TV, not just Dancing with
the Stars. I understand why people like it, right, it's
like kind of like why people love uh uh love

(41:31):
Island to an extent, right, it's kind of like gossipy
TV kind of thing, you know, where I feel like
the social strategy games are much more a different breed
for people. I think the most the closest context we
have to kind of playing both sides, and then that's
because we have housewives on. It is The Traders where

(41:52):
The Traders brings in that version of reality TV and
mixes it with social strategy gaming kind of TV. And
I I think that's why it's so successful as well.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
How are you with America's got talent?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I've seen maybe a handful of episodes. I've seen more
clips on YouTube of like performances than I have actually
watched episodes.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Right, I think the performances are great, but then you
have all that fluff in the middle that no one needs.
We just want to see the show. And you know
what aggravates me about some of these competition based shows
where they have the dancing and all of this. I
don't care about the judges. Why are we paying to
the judges facial reactions. I want to see the full
clip of the people that are performing.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you remember a show back in the day called
High School Musical Get Into the Picture or Get in
the Picture or it was a show? Yeah, so it
was an ABC reality TV shows High School Musical Get
in the Picture. It was basically American idol for younger kids,
like high school age kids, and whoever won got into

(43:00):
put at the end of the third movie had their
own music video and got a contract with Disney. I
was fully invested in that season. The one season that
happened for one reason, only one of my really good
friends from high school was on the show and ended
up winning the whole thing. So he was at the
end of High School Musical, the third movie, He's got
a music video at a contract and everything. Stan Carrisosa

(43:23):
shout out to him in high school, like he was
one of my good friends. I literally was at the
finale party with him, Adam Egos, the place I was
talking about earlier. Everybody. It was Adam Egos in my
hometown and we were all there cheering him on and
watched when he won that whole thing. So it was
pretty crazy, you know, someone that I'm good friends with
literally winning a major thing. But yeah, it was a

(43:45):
total flop. So I just didn't know if anyone remembered
that show.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I mean, obviously I knew High School Music. I grew
up with that, but I didn't know there was a
spin off with it, because my goodness, I know this
is about reality television, but that was so popular. Yeah,
it was everywhere. That's all anyone was talking about. When
is High School Musical two coming out? That there was

(44:11):
like a whole hype behind it with watch parties. It
was crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I mean, granted, this was two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight when this whole show came out,
so for not the movies obviously, but the show that
he was on. So yeah, it was that was just
a different time for people that weren't around back then
where it, or weren't watching reality TV back then, where
that was a lot of like the narrative is you
wanted to be the next Disney star, you wanted to

(44:35):
be you know whatever, the Disney touch turned to gold essentially.
Let me get back to the comments. I can't believe
I missed Rachel. We don't worry. Rachel will be back.
Lauren unfortunately had an interview at the time. She was
one she missed Rachel too, But I hope you guys
all get to go back and watch the live stream
I did with Rachel. Was a lot of fun, and
she said she wants to come on for many more.

(44:57):
So we're gonna have her on here again soon.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Heck yes, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, Yellow Sophie is strong, she won first community challenge.
She is the problem with her and it's nothing to
her extent. It's the fact that we're getting nothing from
her on the show. This was the first week we
really got any kind of content from her, So it
gives me zero vibes of any kind of winner. Eddie. Honestly,
I feel like she could be the next one gone
next week, I really do.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
We have not gotten enough information about her whatsoever. And
what makes it difficult is we have nine minute episodes.
You need to tell me that she's doing nothing. I
don't buy it. She is definitely doing something out there.
There's no way she's just sitting on the beach, laying
on the beach all day long. There's content, they're just
not showing it.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I agree. I agree. If Gabe was a Gabe season
was forty nine, he would have been back. I mean possibly,
like possibly. Here's the theme though, Gabe season on forty
seven was the best season of the New Era, So
the fact that they only have one person from that
season fifty and they have three from forty eight, which
is arguably the worst season of the New Era, is

(46:05):
wild to me. It's only one season removed and it's
literally been known to be the best season of the
New Era and has so many good members of that cast. Like,
to me, it's like the Big Okay, so if we're
talking New Era only it's like the Big Brother sixteen
where there's so many good characters. Even though people hate
sixteen and everyone knows I love it. There were so

(46:27):
many people that have come back from sixteen, and we
have what three winners from season sixteen, like the most
of any season all time. We have what probably I
think we got to like seven or eight people that
have returned in some capacity. So yeah, like it's one
hundred percent. I feel like forty seven is the big

(46:48):
brother sixteen where they need to bring back more people
from that cast because that cast was so good.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
They will. I think at this point they have known
that going into the fifth chapter of it all, there
has to be a couple more returning seasons. You can't
go this long without them because the problem is then
we forget about some people and when they're held in
the portal too long and they go by them, they
don't get the second chance. They don't have the next

(47:14):
opportunity and they could be an elite player, but we're
never going to get it.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yes, I agree, Bobby. Is there anything in your Oh,
I already answer that question. Some we go to down
on this one. I remember this is from the EW profile.
What life experience has prepared you for the game depends
on which facet of the game you're referring to physically
the military, emotionally the trauma. So yeah, so I mean
stage essentially, If that's the case, I just don't remember

(47:41):
it from her preseason press, But yeah, she could have
absolutely be military, which honestly makes a lot of sense
because I feel like her reads and everything are very
much so, and like the way she's able to handle
social interactions very much sho gives me that kind of
vibes where she could be military esque. But then I
go back to like her getting excited, I did them
peeing every five seconds, where I'm like, I don't know

(48:03):
how that would work in the military, But hey, honestly,
if that's the case, because you know it was out there,
she was on the military, thank you so much for
your service, and I you know, I'm glad to have
her on this show. I think she's brought a lot.
What are your opinions on stage?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I could go on all day, great casting choice. I mean,
I'm just picturing Sage in the interview chair on the
phone call, the first phone call that you receive, and
they go, oh, this is a slam dunk. We cannot
drop the ball on this one.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I agree Traders Canada is eating Bobs. How are you
not watching? I'm watching. I watched the first episode. I
just haven't been able to catch up. Too much good
stuff to catch up on. I had the Rachel interview
that I did a lot of preparation for. Had my
daughter's birthday party last weekend. Obviously, you guys know, I
got a little under the weather after that because I
think all the kids there, I think one of them
had to have been sick or something made me get sick.

(48:53):
But it's all good. We had a great time, and
my daughter's birthday was Wednesday, so or I had all
that going on. So yes, i'd just been behind. I
will catch up on everything by next week. Laura and
yet Lawrence here. We're excited to have her. There was
more in the Mike Blueman interview, but I don't remember
about stage. I'm sure, so, yeah, Lauren, did Savannah damage

(49:16):
her game in the latest episode, Savannah heel turn.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I wouldn't necessarily say damage. I would say didn't help herself,
if that makes sense. I think she still has a
ton to go here, and she's someone that I believe
is able to adapt to any type of situation. We've
seen it. You see the way that Savannah is able
to speak to other people and also to this game

(49:43):
is forever changing. There's still more twists to come. We
know that, and so it all just depends how the
chips fall, because one vote can go one way and
then the next vote someone can piss somebody else off
or advantages come into play, So anything can still happen
with this endgame coming up.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Now that we've hit the yeah, I agree. You guys
heard my comments on that earlier too. Is anyone interesting
on squid Game like Figgie on Squad Game two?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yes, folks, hold on, you're not gonna be able to
see it, But I have a list. These are all
the people that I've been talking about. There are tons
and tons of folks hot take here. After four episodes
in Squid Game the Challenge, season two is already better

(50:30):
than season one. And it's simply because not just the players,
the games. The games drive the show. And by golly,
and it's not a spoiler because the announced the games
before the season even begun. If you are a fan
of this, Mingle is the best game I've ever seen period.

(50:50):
It doesn't matter Mingle should it be there every single season.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yes, one hundred percent agreed with Mingle. And then if Mary,
if you're referencing, like is there anyone from a former
television show like how Figgie was on Survivor, there's one
person that I recognized from another show. I still can't
put my finger on what show it was, but you know,
I think she's still alive too. In the game, there's

(51:14):
a woman with the blonde hair that on Mingle quick spoiler.
It's something crazy like she was about to go but
then they opened up the door and say, hey, we
still have room for one more, and she ran and
beat the Viking guy to get in Player seventeen.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Vanessa, what was she o? Canada?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Right? Thank you? I was like I could not for
the life of me. I was like, I know I've
seen this woman before in my life on reality TV,
but I cannot tell you where it was. I was
thinking it was on like The Mole or something. But yes,
so that makes even more sense. A Big Brother Canada
she was on Okay, so I don't think she did
very well on Big Brother Canada, but I definitely definitely

(51:51):
recognized her. So they also.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Joan from Australian survivor is then the cat. They have
a couple of people. What I will tell you is
there's a bunch of sets of twins. Yes, it's twin City.
When it comes to this, there's I'm not trying to
give too much away if people haven't watched, but we
are going to be talking about on this podcast, so
it's eventually you might want to knock out for a

(52:17):
little bit. However, it's worth the watch. There's characters that
you were going to love. There's characters that you are
going to hate, yes, which is what you want in
a squid game. And there's games that are in corporate
that are brand new. They were not in the drama.
So there's so many aspects that you need to check out.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
And there's like twins that are famous on social media.
There's there's so many good characters. There's one in particular
that was just I loved the person. I was so
bummed to see them go. I won't say who it is,
but Lauren knows who I'm talking about. We've talked about
this person quite a bit. And the emotional attachment my

(52:58):
wife had where she was staying ending on her feet,
being like you got this, don't do it, don't do
it Like I was like, Babe, it's not looking good
right now. Just based off this edit, I could just
feel it going the opposite way. So no, he's got it.
He's got it. So I won't say what happens. I
won't say who it is, but let's just say you
have a strong emotional attachment to one person at one

(53:20):
point during the season so far. And if you're a.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Fan of Johnny Fairplay, we see an epic lie that occurs.
There's tons there. You can't miss it, mind you. If
y'all are watching Survivor, this is way better.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Come on, like right now. Yeah, I agree with you.
I'm on fantastic. Let's get some more comments in here.
TATTOOA says Rizzo said, I'm gonna use the idol wrong.
He said blood will be drawn tonight. I mean, at
the same time, he's kind of putting it out there, right,
He's letting it be known that he's playing the idol.
But then obviously in the back of his head he knows, hey,

(53:56):
I'm gonna take a swing here and hope it works
out my favor. So we kind of went over that earlier.
Bob showing his age with the high school musical reference.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I am.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I absolutely am, like, but at the same time, like
it was a major point where that was the first
time I knew someone that was on any kind of
reality TV that was actually like close to me. Like
I remember I went and picked him up from his
house while he's on the show and stuff like what
we went and watched an episode together. So it's like
you have that emotional attachment. So I didn't get two
shits about high school musical. I gave two shits about

(54:26):
him winning, and we had no idea how he did.
They filmed, actually they filmed for the finale two different
endings of him winning and one of her winning the
girl that was at the end, and so he didn't
even know tell the day of The only reason he
found out was the local reporters before the episode aired,
like an hour before the episode aired. We're like, hey,

(54:47):
what are your thoughts on being the winner of the show,
and he's like, I won. He's like, oh gosh, yeah.
So he was kind of bummed that he didn't get
to see in live, but you know, he won, so
he was still happy.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
We were close in age, aren't we.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I'm thirty six, Oh.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Okay, yeah, I'm right. I'm right in there. I'm in
thirty one, so we're not.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Too far off, so we can't too far off.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Fall into the same area. When it comes to television.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
We're both what millennials, right.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yes, I'm a millennial.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
You're like on the end of the millennials. All right,
oh yeah, right on the end.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
But let me be very very clear, I belong as
a millennial. I do not want the gen Z status.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Oh no, same see. But it's funny because you know,
ten fifteen years ago was like, oh, you don't want
the millennial status because oh these millennials. And now it's
like every generation's like that. Right now, us as millennials
are looking at gen z's be like, oh, thank god,
I'm not a gen Z, and I'm sure gen Z's
are gonna be like, oh Gen Alpha, they're the worst,
you know, like it's one hundred percent just every generation. Oh,

(55:50):
in my generation, we were so much better. It's also
something to say about our culture where each each generation
we're like, oh my gosh, this new generation, like that's
more an indictment on us for not training them better. Right,
So yeah, I don't know, they make twenty versions of
High School Musical, the Indian version, the Mexican version, the

(56:12):
Argentine version, all of it at the same time. I mean, yeah,
there was a lot of iterations sustain. They had a
show called High School Musical the series a few years back.
I mean, I don't doubt it. I mean it was massive.
It made Zach Efron's career essentially, right, you know, so
you know, we might not have Zach efer might not
have Dylan Efron on Dancing with the Stars, which is

(56:33):
a great segue too real quickly me talking about Dancing
with the Stars. So one thing, I don't want to
talk too much because I don't know a lot. I
kind of just I'm on my phone doing Instagram and
stuff while my wife is watching it. I'm kind of
half watching it. I want to say this, and it's
probably a hot take. I love Andy Richter. The fact
that he's still on the show is absolutely insane to me,

(56:56):
because obviously this is what happens when you have a
fan vote, where the fans just get behind someone. And
I love him. I think he's great. I have no
problem with it. I think it's kind of a meme.
The fact that he's still around in it, but even
Andy Richter knows he should not still be there. I
have hot take. I think Andy Richter is winning the
whole thing, Like I think that this season is all
about the meme, and I think it's like it's gotten

(57:19):
to the point now where he probably should have been first,
maybe second one out, and now he's like eight people
deep or six people deep or whatever. He just beat
out Danielle Fischl from a Boy Meets World. She went home,
and now Andy is still there. I just have a
feeling the fans are just gonna keep going and keep
voting him to win. Now. Some may say, obviously, my

(57:40):
wife's like, oh, Whitney is the best dancer there. She's
got probably the best chance of winning. People love Dylan Ephron.
I love Dylan Ephron. He's the one who I'm actually
rooting for. Robert Irwin. My wife knows Bendy Irwin is
like my hall pass. So I don't know why, but
Bendy Irwin has always been like I love her to death,

(58:02):
and so I love Robert Irwin by uh, whatever the
word is, I'm trying to look for it, but by extension.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of great characters there,
But I think Andy Richter is winning the whole thing.
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
This is Dancing with the Stars, right.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Okay, listen, you just said this is not really your
cup of tea. I'm seeing you like glowing talking about
this show. You're smiling, you are laughing. Bobby, you can't
tell me you're not into this, Like, look at you.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I'm not into it. I'm not into it. I would
literally not be watching the show if it weren't for
my wife sitting next to me making me watch it
because she's obsessed with it. But the thing is, if
I'm gonna have to watch it, I'm gonna at least
watch it and get involved. And the fact that Andy
is still there is so funny to me. It's such
a like meme to me, where it's like, like the

(58:54):
only reason he's there is clearly by an insane fan vote,
because his numbers by the judges are so much lower
than everyone else's, and he knows every single time he's like,
oh my gosh, how did I survive another one? How
did I survive another one? But he still survives. I'm
just telling you right now, I think that Andy is
winning the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Well, this is why you don't enjoy fan votes, because
sometimes if you are not the best, you still get through.
We see it. Think about as we brought up previously
American Idol, some of the people that lost have careers.
The winners. We only remember a slim margin of some

(59:34):
of these folks that have won that actual show, which
is crazy to me. So you know what, sometimes the
popular vote isn't the correct vote.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I'm looking at because I saw someone in the comments
ask let me see here, hold on Carrie and backlash.
My wife was kind of inchigs up about this, but
I don't know. Carrie and an Abe s has recently
face backlash for her scoring on Dancing with the Stars,
particularly regarding her inconsistent and seemingly harsh critiques of contestants

(01:00:08):
like Daniel Fishel and Robert Irwin. I mean, and thank
you Natalie for the comment. I know it's back here
at the bottom, but I'll get more of your guys'
comments up here in a second. But because we're talking
Dancing with the Stars, I think it's interesting. I think
that Carrie Anne always just seems to be like out
there sometimes, like with some of the things I hear

(01:00:29):
her say, and like, I'm not alluding to anything, but
sometimes she seems a little all over the place with
the things that she says and has very much so
has her favorites. But I think that whatever, like, at
the end of the day, you're still gonna watch it, right,
and even if there is backlash, like people, the show's

(01:00:52):
not gonna get rid of her, because in even bad
press is good press people, So even the fact if
Carrie Anne is having some kind of backlash, it's only
good for the show. And I think that it's kind
of like whatever, Like at the end of the day,
it all comes down to the fan votes, so it
doesn't even matter what the judges say. That's why I
always tell my wife, I'm like, just skip through them

(01:01:12):
talking about each contestant because every single episode, I don't
even know what the guy's name is, but you get
the one guy on the old guy he's like, I
just love you, I just think you are fantastic, and
I'm just like, it's the same damn thing every single time.
He doesn't say anything bad ever, and it's like he
always has to stand up and be the center of attention,

(01:01:34):
and it's like that season overseason overseason. I'm sorry, it
just is so anoying to me. Like the only thing
I like is when the judges bicker back and forth
at each other that they're not getting enough screen time
because the other one talks too much. It's like so petty,
and they continue to bring it up, like that's the
only thing I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
What season are they on of this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I don't know a million?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, well listen, still an f run on it. All
is perfect casting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And then the fact you get the Boston Rob cameo
out of it, so you can't complain.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, no, I know that the cameo that he had too,
and like the little shorts that he's done, the little
Instagram reels with him were fantastic, So yeah, I digress.
That's just my opinion on Dancing with the Stars. You
guys might disagree, you might love it. It's totally fine.
And no, Mary, I'm not a secret WTS fan. I'm

(01:02:31):
not at all. I I okay, listen, I have to
watch it because she's watching it, so I have to
like be she. Here's the deal. When you're a husband
and you have to you have to give up some
of the TV time, right, I have to not always
be about my shows. I have to allow it be
about what do you want tonight, honey? And Tuesday nights

(01:02:54):
is always her night for dancing with the Stars, So
I have to sit there and enjoy it because I
make her watch a lot of my dumbass shit too,
So that's fair. So to be fair to her, I
give her her ample opportunity to do whatever show she
really wants to watch. Now, granted, I will take this
any day over Love Island. Love Island is such trash

(01:03:17):
that this at least is enjoyable to an extent where
at least they're like dancing, it's gonna be fun. I
like to see him fall or mess up. But at
the end of the day, no, I'm not invested in this.
But yeah, Andy Richter is winning the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Aren't they casting for Love Island Season eight or something
crazy like that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
For sure? I'm sure they've got like thirty in the
can right now that they're like, let's be real, it's
the biggest show on TV right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I just there's so many ones that I preferred. If
we're talking about love shows, are you the one was
great on MTV. That gave me drama and more, and
then you saw them circulate into empty. He's the challenge.
It was so good. I was here for that type
of one and normally I'm not about the love type
of shows, but for that, there was competition involved. They

(01:04:08):
were doing challenges, so it was not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I here's the thing. You guys can love Love Island.
People can do it. I have said it a million times.
It is the trashiest show I've ever seen in my
entire life. And I know that they lean into that.
But it's like real sex meets Taxiicab Confessionals meets reality
TV like proper right, like mainstream reality TV, where it's

(01:04:36):
the challenges literally mean nothing. It's literally to the point where, oh,
this is my man, no one can have him. Don't
you dare touch him? All this stuff, the challenge happens,
let's make out with everyone. Come here, I'm gonna get you.
I'm gonna make it out with you. Oh and it's okay,
it's okay. It's fine because it's a challenge and everyone's
doing it, so we can cheat and do all this stuff.
It's no problem. And then immediately after the challenge, oh,

(01:04:58):
I love you, babe, Like you're the only one for me.
I'm like, what is this show? This is They're basically
dry humping during the challenges with every other contestant, and
then all of a sudden they go back to the
villa and they're like, Oh, you're the only one for me.
I could never choose someone else, Like we're gonna end
this thing together. Talking about real life, I'm like, this

(01:05:18):
is horrible, Like this is legitimately the worst thing I've
ever seen in my life. And I understand that as
a culture we have downgraded so much that this is
the number one show on television and it's literally something
that should be blacked out, that should be behind a
wall for eighteen plus to watch. That's literally on mainstream

(01:05:41):
television for kids to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Listen. I'm not saying you're wrong, but hello, have you
seen Love Is Blind? The craziness with that show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
That's that's way more timid, way more than this show.
And I get it for sure, But I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Talking about like controversy and everything. If you want to
talk about drama, hit up. Love is Blind. That is.
This past season was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Oh yeah, I watched it. I loved I love the
season of Love is Blind. I always get into Love
His Blind because I actually think Love His Blind's very entertaining.
If you haven't seen it, it's kind of a crazy season.
But just to talk about Love Island one more time,
you had the one episode where they're all in lingerie
and tied up and making out with people on a
pole that are tied up. I'm like, how is this

(01:06:32):
something during primetime television for children to watch? Acceptable? And
how is this? Like FCC not coming down hard on this?
You say one bat, you know you could say the
F word on National TV and SEC's like, oh my god,
how did you do that? Why could we allow that happen?
But you're having people tied up in lingerie basically groping

(01:06:53):
each other, and that's okay, what is this people watch?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
That's that's on them. Here's the thing. If they know
they can get eyes on a show, it's going to
keep going. It's never stopping, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
And you've got very attractive people out there, Don't get
me wrong. Like some of the girls on there, I
found very attractive. Some of the guys. My wife's like,
oh my god, that guy's so hot. I get it,
and I know that sex sells, But is there not
an extent like and is there not like a purpose
to like the format of the shows, like we've literally

(01:07:31):
gotten to, oh, just put a bunch of horny, sexy
people on an island and just film them twenty four
to seven and have no context.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Well, I mean, this is why we watch the shows
that we personally enjoyed, because you still get the sex
of it all. I mean Big Brother, some massiveness has
gone down before Hell Survivor Caramine that first episode on
that fans try, that was a hook up, like a

(01:08:02):
major hook on. I know you have Ozzie Amanda if
you will and all that, but that one, Oh my goodness,
how could you? How could you do that? That's just
you're sleeping outside. There's people all around you. It's not
as though you're in an room by yourself. There are
people sleeping by you. Everyone smells you haven't brushed your teeth.

(01:08:26):
It's mind boggling to me how that even occurs. Ever,
And I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Mean you can go back to the the Alian uh
uh with April Ali in April from Big Brother, Oh
my god of it all, like that was live stream gold.
I'll say, uh, let's just say that was Live Feed
Gold because that was a NonStop for no reservations at all.
So I went on a little bit of a tangent.

(01:08:56):
But Natalie, thank you for your coming. No, Michael Yerger
on fifty, I know people are dying for Michael Yurger
after that post. Did you see that post that came
out about him where he's like completely Yes, i'd been
like sexy now and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I can say a man's attractive, but like same, that
would not be my personal type in a man. I'm
gonna be honest with you. However, I know everyone has
said the photo is here, oh my god, he's fire. No,
not my type. Wouldn't be my type if I was
dabbling in that corner like corner, but I still find

(01:09:34):
certain men attractive, but that would not be it for me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I don't dabble in that corner at all. So I
totally understand you there, But I would say, like, I
get why people are like, oh, we need him back,
like obviously there's a big calling for that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
No, it came at a great timing though, That's why
it was so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yes, it was really good. Purple Sophie is giving will Wall.
They need to set her up for her her downfall
very soon. I mean, I honestly think that Purple Sophie
Akahena Sophie actual Sophie, because now apparently we calling the
other one Sof, which still annoys me. You went through

(01:10:13):
half the season calling her Sophie, and now all of
a sudden we just have to get on board with
calling her Sof. I know it's not a big change,
but like I fully got in my head that she's Sophie.
She's been Sophie this whole season. Now they just have
to change the name is hard for me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Why do we not just go buy last names to
begin with? We've seen it from other players, Go pick
a last name. One of them has to have a
decent one or something. Because I'm gonna tell you, I
get confused because there's too manys's on the season to
have begun with. It was so difficult to remember exactly
which person is which.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Well, like even Sophie B is you can be like
associated with Blue tribe, Sophie B. You know Sophie S. Yes,
it's not Yellow tribe, but like then you would know
the other one, Sophie S. Like I feel like Sophie
B Sophis. We've gotten people with the same name before,
and then we went with the last initial. Why is
it Sophie and soph like it just purple Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
One season just because she had purple hair. I mean,
come on, folks, we have something here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, let's see here. Did you see Vince's girlfriend going live?
I have not. Did you see this?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
I did not see? This was when I need the
tea on this. Natalie, was it recent?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
What was said? Give us give us the context here?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yes, let us know in the comments what was said
during her live stream? I guess it's ex girlfriend. Now.
I was aware of the twins regarding Squid Game. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes,
since you watch episode one of Traders, how do you
feel about the whole Kevin and his decision versus Tie
and Venus. I mean, here's the thing, Kevin absolutely should

(01:11:46):
have been the trader, Like, I think Kevin as a
trader is a perfect casting for that situation. But how
is the writing not on the wall for these people
to instantly go after him? Like, I feel like that's
just the most obvious one. As far as Tie and Van,
I think that it's kind of hard, right, You're gonna
have to have pick and choose. I honestly think if

(01:12:07):
I were someone that played a reality game and then
went onto a show like The Traders, the first people
I would target are people that also played reality games, right,
because then one those numbers dwindle and then it gets
to the point where it's like, well, that's the only
person left. We can't go for them, Like there's gotta
be someone else. They're obviously taking out that side. That
person would never go after their own gamers essentially. And

(01:12:31):
then two, those people are gonna be the most likely
to come and figure you out because of the fact
that they've played games like that before, so they know
how these things work. They have a better read on
the social strategy of it all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
What are your thoughts, Well, you even saw it with
the past us version of The Traders when they were
doing the Housewives of it All. They were trying to
get the housewives to turn on each other at the
beginning of the game, and that is why they need
it Durnda first. So there's so many different strides that
you can have with this. But it's a huge advantage
if you've been on a reality television show before, because

(01:13:05):
you know the cues. You can read people. You can
tell if someone is being deceitful, if someone is lying
to you, if someone is being truthful and on your side.
And that's why Traders is just overall such a great
show because you have to be so locked in you
cannot have a lapse at all, because once you do,
you can be easily figured out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Should Squid Game have brought
back players like og show, I think that we have
a chance for that to happen eventually. I think that
right now we're gonna have to get a couple, if
not multiple seasons under the belt and then do some
kind of all stars or some kind of newbies with
a few mixed in ogs. I definitely think that there's

(01:13:49):
a place for that. I think it has longevity. Are
aren't they currently casting for season three?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Yes, Season three is currently casting right now. I believe
they started casting in July when they released a tiny
bit of a trailer for season two. So if you're interested,
definitely apply. I know some people have the mindset of well,
I could be eliminated right away. I mean it's a
risk that you take going onto the show, but also
could be a high reward. You could be that one

(01:14:15):
that is the winner. So I always tell people go
for it. You never know what can happen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
It's four point five to six million dollars, so why
don't I know a lot of people are like, well,
this will ruin my chance of ever getting on another show,
which yes, absolutely could. But I still think that even
if you go out early and you literally are not
a face on that show, once that contracts up, no
one's gonna remember that you were on that show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
And don't even say that you're on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
They won't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, you have many ways to do it, but we
have already seen people that played on season one have
gone on to go onto other shows. So I wouldn't
take that into consideration. If you're worried if Survivors your dream,
big Brothers your dream, maybe don't. But at the same time,
Jeff seems more open to it now, so I think,

(01:15:04):
take your shot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And here's the thing. You might not ever get a
chance to play Survivor a big brother. It's only like
few people that ever get that opportunity. I've applied many
times and never got picked for anything. So there there's
literally the chance that you can never have that opportunity.
So if you actually have an opportunity in front of you,
I say, don't ever turn it down. And if you're
a big enough character, those other shows are gonna recognize

(01:15:26):
it definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
So I know recently the revamp of Fear Factor filmed.
Did you see the trailer for that? No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Uh, the Fear Factor? Yes, that's it looks it looks intense.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
That they're calling it like the House of Fear or
something that looks more intense than it was back in
the day. I'm telling you, it's not one of those
things where they just wake up that their hotel, have
breakfast or whatever and maybe and show up and do
some of these wild challenges. Own know, they are living
in a house and it's insane. If you have not

(01:16:04):
seen the trailer for that, definitely check out that trailer
because it's one of the most intense ones that I
personally have seen since Solitary. Do you remember Solitary?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
I feel like I do. I can't remember off the
top of my head.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Faily did a couple seasons of it, but JP from
Survivor Vana Watsu I think was on it or something.
But that's where you are literally insolitary and you're competing
against other people, and there's specific tasks that you have
to do and you have the opportunity to opt out
of it. And that was very intense, and they minimize

(01:16:37):
your sleep. Check it out because they they had that
show and it was pretty popular. I believe when it
was running.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I'll have to check it out. I think I remember it,
but I can't put my finger on it. Bobby being
a secret dancing so cute not secret fan. Okay, Love
Island fans are the worst. I agree, I agree. They
are the plague that is social media. We love Love Island.

(01:17:04):
I listen and I always Butcher saying this name. So yeah, like,
thank you for joining us, Good to see you again.
I always see you in the comments, so thank you
for being here. We love it because it's trash. I
get that. I get that people love it. I just
think like it's so it's like a slap in the
face that it's so popular because like there's been other

(01:17:27):
good shows or shows that have actually tried that. It's
literally like the Secret Sauce has just put a bunch
of horny single people, good looking people in an island
setting and just let them ravage each other for our
entertainment and that's like the best thing that could ever
be on TV. It's just like, to me, it's like,
where are we as a society? This is the number

(01:17:49):
one show on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
It's the simple ones. It's the ones you don't have
to put a ton of thought into. Are the ones
that we end up seeing being super successful. It's just
the way we and it's never going to change. People
are clamoring for these type of television shows to be
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Perfect Match just announced the rumored cast today. Okay, I
don't watch that show, so you'll have to tell me
about it. I shocked the challenge on Love Island Mean
Nothing the only time actually give a player an advantage
and it ended in a super epic fight. That's why
Mora became a superstar. I stopped watching. I think I

(01:18:28):
watched like four episodes and then stopped. My wife made
me watch like four episodes and I was like, I can't,
I just I can't. And it's so long, it's so
dragged out where it's like the same fights over and
over and over, and it's like what six days a
week and then one day of like a recap episode.
I just I just could not do it because it's

(01:18:49):
literally the same thing. Like I was, like, get a
new person in here already, Like this is ridiculous. Bobby
going on a rant on Love Island was not on
my bingo card, trust me, it wasn't on mine either.
Michael two pretty and young for me, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Yes, I mean Michael played the game when he was
eighteen years old, so it's been a minute, you know
what I mean? How old is he now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Probably like twenty five, probably like mid to late twenties. Yeah, yeah,
I feel you are Internationally, you should apply for squid
Game becomes. Some countries don't even have reality shows. I
think that's a great thing to say too, Like I
think that it's your best way on getting an American
show that has opportunity for any country to be able

(01:19:33):
to join.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Can I also make a point with this most of
the other countries. So say you want in the UK
that money is not taxed. Yeah, if you are a
US player and you win, that money is taxed. So
the biggest suggestion is move to a different country before
receiving your winnings.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Yeah, well, or or even a state that has no
state income tax like Texas. Right, Like I so there
was someone who is a big name that recently won
Dondee and they moved to Texas right right before the

(01:20:14):
uh the episode came out where they won. I'm thinking
there was a reason behind that because of the no state.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Be smart about it, folks, listen, because if your four
point five to six million dollars is not taxed, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and here's the thing too, it does
it matter even if you're an international because you are
playing in America? Because wasn't this where was this taped?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
It's filmed in the UK oh okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Because they kept showing like and I knew that for
season one, but they kept showing like Chicago or something
at the in the intro sequence, like they kept showing
or Saint Louis, that's what it was. They showed the
arch and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
That's because they're filming the van scenes. They're coming in
at the beginning, showcasing how they did it in the
actual show. So they stick them in the van and
then they make them go to sleep and pass out
and then all of a sudden they wake up and
they're in squid game. They're in their bed and everything. Obviously,
we're not doing this on this television show. But they're
trying to still give you everything that that show provided,

(01:21:19):
just you know, minimizing everything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
A little bit. Yeah. Interesting. So yeah, No, I mean
move to another country, or move to somewhere in the
United States like Florida or Texas where there's no state
income tex So at least alleviates the blow a little bit.
On Mexico, we only had VIP celebrity editions. Yeah, that's
the thing, like a lot of these countries don't have

(01:21:43):
versions for everyday people to be able to join. You
had the guys are the ways, I say, gaze the
created a garment in twelve hours in Project Runway Drag Race. Meanwhile,
the straits just had to be on bikinis on Levin. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, have you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Seen Project run Away before?

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
I used to love it way back in the day,
and then Heidi was no more on the show. Heidi
came back this past season. It was okay, but old
school Project one Nay, it was where it was at
when you had Tim gunning there and everything. Yeah, old
school is way better.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I mean I've only watched a handful of seasons of
Drag Race too, so to be honest, with you. I'm
not not fully caught up on all of that world either.
When it comes to like any kind of show like that,
like Project Runway, Drag Race, what have you like, It's
just not something like I told you guys like. I'm
more like the strategic, the social strategy type of games

(01:22:45):
with also with whatever my wife will make me watch. So, Lauren,
are our guests possibly still jumping in here?

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
One is stuck in traffic, so I think we're going
to try to pop in for another.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Day, Okay, all right, Yeah, no worries. If it happens,
it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But I do
want to talk a little bit of Squid Games with you.
So if you guys have not watched the episodes, definitely
tune out now we will be talking to spoilers. We've
got an well in almost an hour and a half
into the stream, So if you guys have not caught

(01:23:21):
up on Squid Games, this might be your time to
pop out. If you don't care, I still want to
hear us talk a little bit about it because there
are so many names. To be honest with you, like,
you guys might get lost in the sauce if you
haven't seen it yet and might forget who's who. But
I do think that this is a good time for
those that don't want to be spoiled on that. If
you want to hop out, go right ahead, Lauren. What
I know we got your initial thoughts on the season,

(01:23:43):
how good it was. What's something that stood out to
you so far the most? When it comes to this
season of Squid Game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I honestly think the characters really and the games. Yeah,
season one had fantastic characters, but season two, I believe
they're giving us a more developed story of these characters.
I'm invested in these people. When they get a limited
I'm like, ah, yeah. I try not to stand up

(01:24:11):
for television shows sometimes, but I am standing on my
feet watching this shows during specific games because it is
just crazy how it's happening. The viper of it all,
so iconic, so good. I hate Player three ninety and
I've said it on the podcast before, and I don't
care that you know that I don't like you, but
you got oh. I don't What is your take on

(01:24:33):
that moment because that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
It was so stupid too, because it affects you too.
It's not like you turning your back to viper. It
doesn't benefit you in any way. You go home to
no matter what. And then secondly, I have a problem
with everyone in that group, like on all the three
sides right where. I have a problem with the two
girls saying that they didn't want to do it, and
I have a problem with the guy turning his back

(01:24:56):
all three of them. I'm like, what are you here
for to compete? You're here to be a part of it.
I don't care if you're bad at catching, or you're sick,
or you're just turning your back to save your side.
At the end of the day, the ball's gonna come
to you at a certain point. And then two like,
you're there to play, why not play the game? Like
all you have to do? Okay. The biggest gripe I

(01:25:17):
have with this competition was the fact that I thought
going into it they would have to stay on their
circles to catch the ball. But no, these people could
run like four circles up and be able to catch
the ball. Then that made this the easiest competition of
all time. Yes, you still have to catch it, but
what is the point of being in the back of
the line. You can Why why couldn't you just run

(01:25:40):
up and be like at the very front. That's what
I don't get. There was really no context. And as
much as I don't want to knock this show because
I think it's been fantastic, that was the one knock
my wife and I had on this episode where if
you are the next person in line, why couldn't you
just walk up like five or six squares or circles

(01:26:00):
to like a closer spot to catch the ball when
people are already doing that, they're running towards those circles.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Anyways, I believe you had to say on your spot
until the toss was made. I believe that was in
the rules that they could not move. If it was short,
you could run up and get it. That I believe
they were told to do. Also looking at that as well,
talking about the Viper situation three point ninety, you have
someone that you can clearly tell is very athletic. You

(01:26:28):
just saw the catch that they made from the back
of their own line. Eventually the ball is going to
come to you. Why would you not want the best
thrower throwing to you. He would be a great thrower,
because then you could end up with somebody else that
is not confident in throwing, and you could get a
shitty throw to you and be eliminated. Still, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's no context there in which
it's smart move for you not to at least try
to catch the ball. I think this guy was just
trying to make TV like fun TV. But like clearly
the an edit like they wanted their screen time, right,
So I feel like that's why they did it. And
then at the end of the day, he's like, Oh,

(01:27:07):
I'm gonna catch the ball. I'm gonna catch a ball,
and then he totally like sucked at it, like he
had no chance of actually catching that thing, like it
hit his hands. I don't know this. This was the
one competition that in my mind I was like, hmm,
like the whole running off the circle, everything about it. Now,
what was your initial thought going into the game. What

(01:27:28):
did you think the best strategy was to go from
the back, like be one of the people in the back,
or be one of the people in the front.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Are you asking for me personally if I were to
be playing them, because I would say something different, what
my chategery would be different for these people versus what
it would be for myself. If we're talking myself here,
I don't care where I go. I feel confident that
I can catch, and I feel confident that I can
throw the ball. What I would personally do because I'm
not going to argue and trying to get to the

(01:27:54):
front of the line, because I don't care enough that
I need to be at the front of line, I
would probably go to the back because we did. I'd
still see groups surviving that ended up being in the back.
But if it came down to it, I would feel
confident enough that I could catch, and then from there
just pray that the other person can catch. What I've
found insane though, is why, why, why why did the

(01:28:15):
twins get as far up in the lineup as they did.
That was the crazy part to me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yeah, it was crazy. I was weird. And also we
were so early into the competition and he didn't want
to throw it to the cop guy because he thought
it was too far, and like looking at where it
is now, it's like, oh, you were fine. You could
have easily thrown it to him. Also, the fact that
he could have run up to the front square. You
could just literally go like this and like he could
run up to the front square and be fine because

(01:28:40):
you're so close at that point. Like, the clear advantage
is to go very early on, like the very first one.
Be one of the first four people. That's the best
thing you could do, because it's literally just like a
basic toss. I mean, either that or be on the
very very end. But I still think that there's actually
an argument to be made to be like five people back, right,

(01:29:03):
five or six people back where it's you don't have
the face of being one of the front people, while
also you're not far enough back that it's not an
impossible catch or tough catch, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It's not an impossible throw, because we did see some
very poor throws. And also some people were throwing overhand.
No shut that if as we've talked about here, if
you can just lob it up in the air, gives
them time to run up to it, that's the strategy
right there. It's catching a pop fly, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yes, Yes, the fact that people would throw overhand was
crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
What do you think of the disadvantages?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
I thought they were kind of lame. Well, one was
vastly easier than the other, yes, Like the small ball
was kind of like whatever, Like it was just like
toss it up, and yes, it's a little bit harder
to catch. It's more of a disadvantage on the catcher
than it is the thrower. Like yeah, like it wasn't
even full disadvantage on the girl that threw it. It

(01:30:02):
was more so that like, okay, now I got a
smaller ball to catch, you know, but the blindfold was
wild to me because I'm like, this is so much
tougher of a disadvantage than the small ball, because what
if you're just off just on your trajectory right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
And how far you throw it in all of that
too exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I think at that point, you just you before you
put the blindfold on, you just automatically angle yourself at
that person, so you know, okay, I'm already facing that direction.
Blindfold really means nothing. Now, it's just the amount of
the throw. But I think at that point, just throw
it as high as you can, like do just underhand,
throw it up as high as you can. Obviously not crazy,

(01:30:43):
but like enough where you think the distance is good,
but throw it up maybe a little higher than that,
and then it gives that person the best chance to
catch it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
It's it's tough because I as soon as I saw
the blindfold come out, I said, this is going to
get tricky, and I was figuring that Samantha was also
going to have to use the blindfold as well. So
when they brought out the small ball, yeah, no exactly.
And this is where I would make the argument, I

(01:31:12):
definitely can't catch, So if you're blindfolded, we're both screwed.
Just so they throw it to someone that's not you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Well, I think that, like imagine if, like you said,
like both the catcher and the thrower or blindfolded, then
that's just like impossible, right, Like, there's no chance.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
That's not a See I brought this up on the
podcast that to me is not a disadvantage. That's an elimination.
My disadvantage is all right, you have to adapt to
the situation and figure out how am I going to
get around this to continue in the game. That's fine
with me. Which every disadvantage they have given so far,

(01:31:49):
there has been a way out of it for people.
They have an opportunity to still survive the game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Yeah. I do think that the small ball, compared to
the blindfold was kind of like insanely big difference. Outside
of that, I had no problem with it. I liked
the context of the game. I thought it made a
great emotional like attachment to players in the game, especially
Mark that I talked to you about off stream, where

(01:32:14):
Mark uh I just player one hundred his edit throughout
the whole season, and he got the vibes of like, oh,
you know, he wanted this Star Wars wedding. We almost
did even go out by one of the twins taking
him out early. But he had like such an emotional
attachment just you know, everything about Mark was he he
looked like this, you know, obviously this uber nerd you know,

(01:32:35):
bigger guy, like all this stuff. But he was so lovable.
He was so nice, so friendly, and the people still,
even in the beginning of that competition just completely dogged him.
The one guy, the one asshole who was like calling
him out, being like, we need to put you in
the middle because they're gonna look at you and know
that you can't catch and stuff, and he's like, what
is this sixth grade again? Like what are we talking
about here? And I liked that the one guy stood

(01:32:57):
up for him. I think that they let it go
a little too long, and it should have been stood
up against early on, and the fact that they still
put him in the middle was kind of wild to me.
After them realizing, hey, this is not cool, I think
that that they should have let him go wherever he
wanted to go at that point. But yeah, player one hundred,
that's what the point I was talking about where with

(01:33:19):
my wife where she was standing up being like, yep,
you got this catch it, And they made it so
like strung out to where it's like the lead into
the next episode, the cliffhanger, like does he catch it?
And he's talking to himself, He's like, I am strong,
I am whatever, you know whatever. He was saying, like
the emotional attachment you have to that guy was so strong,

(01:33:40):
and to see him fumble it and not catch it,
I was like, Mark, No, I was telling my wife
the whole time. I was like, baby, it's not happening.
It's not happening. Like they're giving this edit because it's
not gonna happen. Like this is what squid game does
so well is even though they know that person's going
home and they know it's kind of in dramatic fashion,
they're gonna give you all the lead up because they've

(01:34:00):
got to get rid of people, and they want you
to have like what the show had, where you have
an emotional attachment to these people that you know are
probably gonna die at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
They want you to be emotionally invested into some of
these characters. And Mark one of the most genuine people
that you can truly say on reality television competition series ever.
Speaking of Mark, Mark will be coming on this podcast.
I did get that book. Hopfully Bobby and I can
figure out a time where we can both be on
there for the mark of it all. I know Mark

(01:34:31):
has a huge storyline, so much to say, and is
excited to be chatting with us here on the Reality
after show. So I'm interested to get all of Mark's
thoughts in terms of just the entire process getting on
the cast and just dealing with that specific moment, because,
as you said, Bobby, that freaking asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Why would you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I just don't understand why people just can't think before
they speak.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Yeah yeah, or it's just it's just always gonna come
out bad, Like everything you're doing in that scenario is
just gonna be bad. And he played bad on the show.
There was no benefit to it, and I think there's
a lot of people we've seen like that on reality TV,
but it just it rubbed me such the wrong way
because it's like, screw you, dude, like you're not any better,

(01:35:22):
Like you easily could be one of those people we
put there and say, hey, they're never gonna think that
he's gonna be one to catch the ball too. I
wouldn't have got that read from that guy either, Like
you know, I'm not. Yeah, he was eliminated here. I
love that he went out before Mark though, that was
even better. But one thing I do want to bring
up on this competition before we move on to like

(01:35:43):
other stuff on the season. What are your thoughts on
the fact that Viper and the other guy decided, Okay,
let's have you throw it to me out of all
those other people, Like, yes, you have the one guy
who turned his back, one girl who says she was sick,
and the one girl who said that you can't catch
but you're literally throwing to the last person in the line.
If I were Viper, I'd be like, hey, this is

(01:36:03):
the biggest risk right here. No one else is going
to do this. Why are we putting ourselves through this
or risking both of us going home. When it's the
furthest distance possible. We have to leave it up to
chance with one of these other people and see what happens.
And then no one's ever gonna pick Viper because Viper's
so far back. Like even if one of those girls
or that guy catches the ball, they're not gonna pick

(01:36:24):
Viper because he is so far back. And then two
then Viper's safe. And yeah, you have an attachment to
this guy, but at least you're safe, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
I think here's what the issue was, because they had
to throw. The guy in front of Viper had to
throw to somebody, and he even pointed out and said,
I don't feel good about three ninety mentioning that. So
that player makes the correct call, I believe, throwing it
to Viper because he knows that Viper's going to catch
the ball there. So for Viper just a bad spot.

(01:36:54):
I think had roles been reversed, Viper makes the same
throw to the other guy, he probably catches, and then
Viper's safe. It's just Viper was in the wrong spot
back one spot too far. I I mean, looking at
those two girls, they had no confidence either. That's the
other issue. I don't even know which one I which
one I would have picked. I probably would have gone

(01:37:15):
if you had to select somebody, I probably would have
went with the one that said she's not confident in catching,
because at least with her, she seemed as though she's
been around the block in the sense of has dabbled
in some type of sports background something. She at least
looked like she had. The other girl didn't. She actually

(01:37:36):
didn't look well. I could tell that she probably was
actually sick.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Well, here's the thing. At some point, you're gonna have
to do it right, because it's gonna it's gonna come
down to you're gonna have to catch the ball at
some point. So what's the point of continuing to say
you won't do it, or you're sick, or you're don't
think you're good at catching the ball or turning your back.
Someone's got to do it at a certain point, so

(01:38:01):
you gotta kind of this is the thing about squid game.
At a certain point, you have to take a chance,
Like you can't just go through this whole game and
not take a chance somewhere. I mean that that brings
me to my next point, where you get the little
the little dolls, the little uh messing doll. Yes, where
when it's early on and the first person gets it
out and it's what it was, like a disadvantage. It

(01:38:23):
was a disadvantage, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yes, the first one was disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Yes, instantly, And I'm shocked that no one wanted to
do this and the one guy eventually did. Instantly, I'd
be like, I want to be the next one. I
want to be the next one because in the history
of reality TV, it has been known that most likely
after a disadvantage or a bad thing, it's usually a
good thing when it's the initial first two polls. So

(01:38:51):
when they give you something bad early on into that
kind of scenario, I think it's like nine times out
of ten, the next thing is gonna be good because
they want people to understand that it's not just always
gonna be bad things. Right, So if you go and
someone opens it up and it's a bad thing, most
likely the next one's gonna be a good thing because
they want that game to continue. No one's gonna want

(01:39:14):
to take it, and it's just gonna make for bad
TV if it's just continuous bad things. So the strategy
there is, once someone has something bad take the next thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Well, I believe the person that went next received nothing. However,
the difference in this game was people didn't have a choice.
If they came up to you and wanted to give
you the doll, you had to take the doll. You
couldn't say no to the doll. And the only choice
that was made was the very first time the doll
was picked up, somebody could go in and take that.
And that's what led to the drama that we saw

(01:39:47):
within this round. Yes, because people all of a sudden
are saying, no, I don't want the doll. Oh, I
guess I'll take the doll, and you know you have
the vendettas I'm giving this person the doll because I
don't like this person. So and that's the aspect in
the twist that I have enjoyed that they incorporated with
this season. Their twists have been impeccable so far.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Well, essentially, I'm saying that the second thing was a
good thing. Even though yes it was nothing, that's still
a good thing because then you've already gone and you
got no disadvantage there. You got nothing bad that came out.
So that is a good thing. And now no one's
gonna come back to you because you already accepted it, right,
you already said you won't give it to me. I'll
do I'll do you a solid here. You've already taken it,

(01:40:26):
so they're never gonna give it back to you. You've
already gone. So that's what I'm saying is, nine times
out of ten, in that kind of scenario, it's always
advantageous to take it when no one else wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Absolutely, and that's and that's what it is. It's just
it's risky. It's risk versus reward, and this type of
game you have to know going in and having the
mindset of I could be eliminated any time, but I
would rather have fate in my own hands than give
it a crack than somebody else just handing me, yeah,
a doll and it just says you're a lit it

(01:41:00):
without having done anything.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Yeah. I thought that was very interesting the way they
set that up. What did you think about the disadvantage
going into mingle where they had to be tied together.
I thought that it was honestly gonna be completely benefit
a benefactor. Beneficiary, Oh my god, what is the word
I'm looking for? Beneficial for them to be able to
be tied together because one, you have a built in

(01:41:25):
alliance that can't turn on you like they can't turn
on you. Then you also have someone that's not normally
in your group that has alliances with other people, so
you can always use that to your benefit when trying
to work with multiple people. Third, the fact is you
have a built in two, so now people have less
numbers to try to figure out, and they're never going

(01:41:46):
to go down to one or two in the competition.
Right Like in Mingle, the lowest Selle goes statistically speaking,
is probably three, because three then at least has a
little bit more drama. If you have two, they're set
no matter what. They just run in together, and one's
never gonna happen because they don't have enough rooms. It
doesn't make for good TV. It'd just be weird. I
think That's why I'm saying is the lowest they would

(01:42:07):
go is three, and then you just have to pull
one other person with you. The only reason, the only
way that screws up, and that disadvantage isn't all of
a sudden an advantage is when you get one of
those asshole players like we saw in this episode, who
were like we need to backstab them as soon as
possible and then you're screwed.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
So for me, I thought it was a great pick
on who was selected because think about it, Austin knew
going in what the game was going to be, so
huge advantage right there because you happen to be aligned
with Marcus, who is the one that got the little
slip that said mingle first round of six, so you're
already I think we would have seen a completely different

(01:42:51):
thing had it been not getting that slip, because I
don't know if the selection for the person you're handcuffed
too is going to be the same selection. So right
then and there, that's some luck that you have received
knowing what the game is going to be, then making
that selection for yourself, knowing that you're picking someone that
is going to be able to move very very quickly

(01:43:11):
in this competition. The problem is, though, as we saw
in this tons and tons of betrayals because everyone is
thinking about themselves and I can't say blame them only
because the name of the game there is just get
in the room with a correct number of people, and
we saw people shifting going into different rooms. We even

(01:43:34):
saw as we spoke about earlier in the podcast, people
screaming one More, One More, Vanessa gets in the door,
just sneakily away from the entire group of people that
she was working with. She was the one that was
able to get there first, just by sprinting. And that's
what it took. Sometimes all it took was one extra
person that you needed. And then you see Trinity being

(01:43:54):
held against his will in a room, them not letting
him go out of that room to help someone he
had been working with. This gave you the drama, the chaos,
the sadness of it all. I mean, look at how
the game started. The song is playing, everyone is jumping around,
they're giddy, they're into it, and then you look what

(01:44:16):
it turned out to be at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
Best thing they could have ever produced in a show.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Yeah, no, I agree, I think that. Do you think
that at the end when they're like, oh, we're not
going to compete, We're not going to compete, and then
they're like, oh, congratulations on finally ending the game by
not competing. Here's your prize. I feel like there's no
way this show is like actually gonna let them quit, right,
I mean, it does kind of harken back to like

(01:44:46):
the actual show, where like you could quit at a
certain point, but like I feel like the game was
gonna end at a certain point. They were losing people
left and right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Everything that you saw was real. I did to speak
to somebody that came on into the episode recut. Eric
Player four fifteen came on with me and we talked
through all of this. So what we do not see
is Shelley in the nesting doll, received that advantage where
she was going to be I meme from having to
compete and mingle. What we did not see, however, was

(01:45:17):
Shelley was able to then save somebody else. So two
people sat out of the competition right there. So when
they're saying that there's forty two people left amongst the
mingle group that they had, there's really forty four people left,
but we don't know as viewers were thinking only one
person sat out. So the math isn't mathing. Well, they
didn't show us on the show. There's actually a matchup

(01:45:39):
before the game even begins.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
So here's another question I have. Does that mean that
Shelley didn't ask to that person that she saved, that's
the person that they're gonna she's gonna go be against
dice with marbles. Yeah, that's correct, mar marbles.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
That's interesting. I always think in the scenario right where
you're supposed to save someone, you're supposed to team up
with someone, How was it not the most obvious thing
not to team up with your closest person? Do you
like your second closest, your third closest, Like the fact
that we get the father daughter or the twins like
teaming up together. And then you know in that situation

(01:46:14):
when you come down to two people, like anytime they're
doing teams of two, it's always gonna do marbles. It's
always marbles.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
So I believe this scenario was a bit different the
Picnic one absolutely nobody saw coming in season one. They
are just they took a mental break in their mind,
their minds shut off for a few moments and weren't
even thinking what could come within the next game. This scenario,
on the other hand, they decided as a production team

(01:46:46):
and as a television show to put them in the
most stressful, vulnerable environment. So then they are now attaching
themselves to someone they feel ultra comfortable with because of
the stress level that they have just put through. So
season one, we have the ease, we have the calmness,
we have the mind shot this one. Where's my comfort?

(01:47:07):
Where's someone I feel good with? Because of everything this
game has entailed. You have to remember they're playing this
game for hours.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's it was a rough game. It was
a rough game, and like a lot of people that
I liked went home in this scenario, a lot of
people in the one before that went home. All the
competitions this season, and correct me if I'm wrong. Did
squid Games the final season? Those shows Squid Game? Did
that come out before they filmed this because a lot

(01:47:38):
of people seem same to know these games.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
So we got season two, so season two people were
able to view before going out and filming this show.
Season three came out after the show was filmed. So
they went and filmed this show in February, I want
to say, and then season three came out in June.
So I'm anticipating for the next squinny Game. Season three,

(01:48:05):
we are going to see some of those games that
were incorporated on that specific season because of season two,
that's when we had the Pentathlon, That's when we had
Mingle and that's why we're seeing it here on the
Challenge version of it all. If they do Hide and Seek,
I don't know how they will do it from the
drama of season three, but I will be here for
I enjoy hide and Seek. I just don't know necessarily

(01:48:26):
how we are pulling that off. But I said the
same thing about Mingo, and they did Mingle.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
Yeah, I no, Mingo I thought was absolutely going to
be on the season. I was like, how do you
not have Mingo? Mingle was a big part of the show,
but Hide and Seek was also a massive part of
the show. But I agree with you, not like they
can go around stabbing each other, So like, how is
that going to play out? I maybe it's like a
vest or something where it's like a like almost like
laser tag type of thing, but like or like like touch,

(01:48:52):
you know, like a tag type situation.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
But that's definitely one hundred percent easier for the person
that is Yeah, that's that's easier on that aspect. I'm
wondering if it's something where I don't know how I
would play offf I think they'll find a way to
navigate it and do it, just because it was such
a favorite game that was played. I don't know if

(01:49:15):
it would be easier to find potentially the exit quicker
where they're able to get out and then go into safety.
I'm interested to see what they do, but I think
they should find a way to do it. I want
that on my television screen for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Anything but Battleship. As long as Battleship's not brought back,
I'm completely okay with it. Also, we did get a
hint going into the preview for the next batch of
episodes where we did see the uh oh, what is
it called the doll? The doll from Red Light green Light.
We did see that at the end of the trailer

(01:49:48):
for this new batch of episodes, so I feel like
there could be a new Red Light green Light coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
So they showed they tell you what games are going
to be played before the season started. Was okay, they yeah,
so I can tell you right now that that's not there.
But what we will get is a variation of Shoots
and Ladders. It's I think they call it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
That's what we saw with the shot and ladders in Shoots.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
And Slides is going to be in there. We are
getting the box game back from season one, which I
really enjoyed because that was a game that they made up.
And I think it's great when you have that final
group of players all mixed in there because you've been
working with specific people. Who do you trust? Who do
you betray? Do you betray someone that you've been working
with the entire game, or do you betray someone that

(01:50:34):
you don't want to see continue moving on in the
game and then having to guess that person. It's it's
such a great one that I'm okay with them bringing
that one back.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Interesting. All right, Well, I think we've talked it to death.
We've talked a lot of Reality TV today, Lauren, I
were almost to two hours inside. Think this is a
good place to get out, Lauren. I appreciate you joining in.
Sorry we didn't get our our guest appearances in here,
but it's okay, we'll get them on the podcast here. Yeah.
Check out all of Lauren's amazing content when it comes

(01:51:04):
to the Squid Games Challenge too. You can find it
right here at Reality After Show. She has an interview
coming out with Who today.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
So today we have Bradley and Giovanni. Bradley was player
one two three, Giovanni player two three five, and a
special guest appearance from Johnny Fairplay that none of us
knew was coming. He just popped into the stream. I
would say about thirty minutes into it. This podcast goes

(01:51:35):
over two hours long. We definitely talk score game at all,
but we also dive into many other reality television stories.
So if you were into all that, this is one
you don't want to miss. I kind of said it
last night. I basically said, it's one of the Q
and A podcasts that they do for the Patreon, but
this one is going to be live streamed out to

(01:51:57):
everybody else to get a taste of what Johnny. He
says and does not live.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Could you imagine Johnny on Squid Game Challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
So we do talk about that on the podcast, so
that is a topic of conversation. So if you are
interested to see if Johnny would like to do this
type of show, all the answers are there, everything's there,
we talk fear factor, it's endless, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
So with that being said, go check that out after
a show on YouTube. Give Lauren a like over there.
At least some comments were in the comments section. I
will be on some of those Squid Game podcasts. But
Lauren's the one who takes charge of it, so definitely
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