Michael Irvin Marriott Video Release, FL Block All DEI Programs, Entertainment Industry & Black Hair

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Today. It's Tuesday, March fourteen, twenty twenty three. Coming up,
um rolland Martin Unfilter Extreme Me Live on the Black
Start Network. Hall of Famer Michael Irvin has refiled a
one hundred million dollar lawsuit against Marriott Hotels for what
he says was a lynching of a black man at
the super Bowl. Today, his attorneys released a video from

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Marryott which that they claimed shows Michael Irvin did nothing
wrong after a female merit and employee accused him of
saying something I've seen to her. We will break this
thing down and show you some of that video as well.
Foreign Republican continued the ass against diversity equity inclusion by

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passing a bill out of a committee that could very
well prevent historically black cotton's paternities from being on the
state campuses. Will break down this bill and why it
worries d nine leaders. Also on today's show, Black Hair
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folks on reup. Michael Irvin and as Lawyers held a
news conference today where they unveiled video shot at a
Marriott hotel in Phoenix, Arizona, during the week of the
Super Bowl, which has led to uh Mary led Mary
out to kick Michael Irvin not only out, of the hotel,
but banned him from all Marriotts across the country them so. Supposedly.

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On February fifth, uh Irvin was accused of making an
alleged unwanted sexual advance to a hotel employee at the
Renaissance Phoenix Hotel m but the Irvin the Fence team
unveiled a video that was finally released that they claimed
shows he did nothing untoward towards this woman. Watch this, okay, right,

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Michael was outside with the gentleman that we're here last time,
do you do? I called them the TMG witnesses because
they were the first to interview them. But it's three gentlemen.
If you know this his body movements and what's going on,
he's obviously gonna be very friendly to some other people
actually that I don't know their identity. Taken a picture
that guy right there on the left. Stop it and

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go back ten seconds. Can you do that? When I
talked about the people that were in the back talking,
I believe we're complaining with us. I believe it's this
gentleman here is some kind of a manager. And then
you'll see the witness he's been back come out this side, Okay,
she's gonna walk way around here to this pole instead
of back to where her job would be back that way. Okay,

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go ahead and roll there he goes. She'll come this
way pretty soon, across the bottom talking when she walks,
and you'll see she kind of looks around the pole

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to see if Michael is still coming. You see her
just barely duck her head here. She comes right there.
You see how she stuck her head to the riot,
and they'll pose it now. She's way ahead of Michael.
Because she was to continue at her same speed for
her job. She should be way over the bar in
a second, but she clearly slows down so that they're
going to intersect at that kind of juncture where you

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have to walk in the bar. So go ahead. This
is the shake I talk to you about in the
beginning of the opening, and shake possible. This guy over
here with his hands on his hips is the angry manager. Okay,
she'd go back a few seconds. I want him to

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see what he does with a handclap when he sees
her with Michael hen behind the bar. You'll see him
walk out, So focus on him this time instead of
on her. We went back a little far it's not
as brand as okay, but we got to come in.

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Bap is here. She comes, He sees her back there
where he's vectored, and he comes up the manager and
you'll see him when he sees her, watches an expression
when he does see the claps. I don't know what
that is. Then he comes up here and you can
see he's visibly frustrated at what's going on somehow with her.
Now I'll just taking back to Michael and her because

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you can see they have friendly interaction. Body language is
good and they're just talking back that you see he
keeps more space from him than he does when he's
talking to any mail at any point in the bar,
so you'll probably we should keep wor space when you
talk to you. That's pacing hitting his hand. He's upset

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over there on the left with whatever's happening. The guy
in the grave up top. That's the security guard that's
wandering around. He'll circle around many times round. Michael and
her pause in one a second, but we've been going

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for a while. They're having a lot of conversation. As
Marriott released in their statement, they said, basically he said
one word to her an offensive vulgar thing that he
did not say. And it's clear from the video and
from these witnesses, but they have a very lengthy conversation
and no one's trying to tell us what that is.
Go ahead, that's where she tells some kind of joke.

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I believe to him. You seem kind of bend over.
She's shaking her head back and forth like that. He
walked him closer to her. She didn't back up at all.
Now they're shaking the hands. I want you to watch
the end interaction here because she's gonna kind of when
the people come up, she'll kick her leg and she

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walks off. She's still talking to Michael over the shoulder.
All frame, lean there you go, and she'll letting and
see right here, she's gonna look back over her shoulder
and taking to Michael and not post pose. Okay, they
claimed he was leering at her, but he looks back
at the bar. She's way gone. Because you're about to watch,
she's gonna go over here in that guy, he's gonna

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go very he's gonna get very visibly upset with her.
And basically there's somebody he's I don't want easy word
abuse him, but there's somebody who's really being forward to her.
It's this gentleman here. It wasn't Michael. So watch what happens. Okay,
go ahead and all to take you see him grab
her and she follows that posit. Now Michael's looking over
there for the first time. He's not watching her. He's

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talking to these guys. He'll see you in in a second.
They turn around and they start talking to him. The
guy in the white hat, okay, go ahead. Seeing now,
Michael walks out to go take a selfie with this
we believe Renaisance employee ninety nine percent sure, and the

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security guy stays right there with him, who's been around
for the whole conversation. Really shows mine where the elevator

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is paying the sucked. There's nothing else relevant on this tape.
It just shows the lobby for another a couple of minutes.
All right, folks, is gonna go to break. We come back.
We're gonna talk with Clarence Heell, who's the Cowboys beat

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writer from the for the fours Our Telegram, talk about
this case. Michael Urban has been fighting back vigorously. His
attorneys say, Marriott, you're going to have to pay up.
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and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, firs, Welcome
back to Roland Martin on the Filter. Clarence Heel as
a Cowboys beat writer for the Four Star Telegram. Uh,
he is a covered Michael Irvin for a number of years.

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Glad to have him on the show. Yes, I do allow.
Omega's on the show occasionally. All right, Clarence, let's get
right to it. When this story dropped, Oh yeah, I
forgot you a short horn. Uh, yeah, welcome to the
sec getting used to going five and seven. All right,

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let's get right to it. Man. Look, here's a deal.
I remember when this story happened. It was it was
strange for them to literally remove Michael Irvin from his hotel,
throw him out, banned him from all Marryouts. Then they
fought the release of this video. Marriott. The hotel folks,
they the lawyers disobeyed the judge's order. So he had

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mandated that this video be released. You were there at
the news conference. Uh, and it is clear Michael Irvin
and his attorneys are pissed off with what they saw
on that video, saying, how could this man make a
lewd comment when you saw the reaction of this woman
on the video? Yeah, the body language does not match

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up to the allegations of the case. Now, just a
couple of some background. According to marry Out, the NFL
told them if they noticed anything or their employees did
anything bad or or something wrong at the hotel, to
notify them. So that's why they notify the NFL when
they when this supposedly went down and he was removed

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from the hotel and roof from NFL coverage. That was
the NFL edict that you know, on our employees or
their employees or something went bad and then they will
be noticed and they would hand that. But looking at
this case, you know, Michael Urban had press commers last
week and he said it was you know, being railroaded
and compared to a black man getting getting linched in
twenty twenty three without any actions, without any proof. The

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maryor I came out with some proof. Finally on the
day that they were asked to reveal the video last Friday.
They made some allegation, but they at least detail the
allegations that the woman had said which caused them to
do the action. Again, it does not leave from Michael
Irban standpoint, from his Urban, from his attorney standpoint, it
does not match up to the video that he's she's

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been sexual assaulted or or a situation where she's uncomfortable,
at least according to their version of the video. And
getting keep in mind there's no audio. It's just a video,
you know, and we don't know what was exactly said.
Michael ever said he didn't say the things that was
alleged that the woman alleged in the video, but certainly
they are put out there. They're putting their own story
out there about the manager and how he was watching

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them from the beginning and he was more upset with
her and been more demonstrable to with her than Michael
everand ever was. And I saw the news conference, and
again you see this video. The way how the conversation

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even ended, I can only be if somebody made a
lewd comment to you, that's not how I mean. You
would think the video would show her sort of, you know,
falling back, shocked or stunned. That's literally not what we saw.
And they sort of walked us through this video. And
so I think Mary's gonna have a hell of a
lot explaining to do. While it was so adamant that

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Michael Urban gets the wrong. Yeah, and I don't know you.
I'm sure you know what the lou comment was. And
if you want to put the comment, at least to
alleged comment on the air, you know that's fine. But
I know I've talked about this. If my daughter, girlfriend, wife, whatever,
if someone made that statement toward her that the alleged
to make Mike irvy, it would not be in a
minute conversation. They would walk away and meeting. I would

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think they would. They would, and maybe you know, just
talking to different people, people have no things differently. But
the alleged comment that was made, if you if this
was made and you were bothered by, why would you
continue the conversation? Why are you shaking hands doing all
this other stuff at the end. None of that at
least giant with the conversation. But not only marry a
marriage gonna have a problem. And maybe the NFL who

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kind of rushed to judgment on Michael. The other part
here that that must be noted no criminal charges were
ever filed. Okay, so this is not a criminal case,
he says, She's say case in the court of public
million certainly in a civil court to a circumstance. I
was trying to clear his name, trying to get his
job back. But I don't know if there's a path

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to total immunity, because you know, it's not like a
judgment and say you didn't say this. You know, there's
no you know, because it's not a criminal case, or
you were innocent. The thing that the thing that jumps
out to be here. I mean, look, Michael Irvin and
Michael now we joke a lot a lot about this.

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He knows I can't stay in the Cowboys but look
professionally professional. And I do joke with Michael, and I said, man,
Michael was great for me in my career. I won
a whole bunch of awards when Michael Irvin was out there,
you know, getting busted in hotel rooms. You know, I
broke that, that drug story. But I remember also broke
the story when he had the rate settlement when he

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was accused of rate. And I remember he was leaving
Cowboys Cafe and he yelled to the media same intensity,
same intensity when he was cleared as it was when
he was accused. And and and and and and and
I called him, um and uh, you know about a
few weeks ago, and and and he said also public
he said, listen, he said, you know, I've done a

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lot of stuff in my life that was true. He
said this, I didn't do this, and and I've seen
Irving uh take the fall for stuff. But here he
is absolutely angry with how his name was being drafted
with the mud by this. Yeah, I mean it's it's

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you know, it's killing his career. And certainly you know,
we know its reputation. You know, his history. I think
that's part of the thing here, Certainly the court of
public opinion or was Mike irving he did it? You know,
And and that's what he feels is that I, you know,
people already believe him guilty because of my past, and
you look at the situation. Certainly I was there, you know,
reported with the same intensity. You know, he certainly said

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that back then, and he hoped to be able to
say that now, report his innocence, report that he's been
exonerated with the same and density. And you know, he's devastated,
his feminist devastated. You know. It was one thing when
he was you know, a player, is another thing now,
you know, at this point in his life and he
has just you know, blossoming media career with with ESPN

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as well as in the network. There's all a hold
right now, absolutely uh. And it was a lot of
embarrassment and people begin to say all kinds of different
things like that, and so uh and again he uh,
you know, he wants his name back, uh, as I said.
His lawyers have they filed the case in Colin County,

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uh to get this legal action going to get the
video release. Now they've refiled in Arizona. Uh. And so
now it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens
as his case moves forward. Does Marriott settled or we're
seeing depositions. But based upon what I saw and heard today,
Michael Urban his attorneys, Uh, they are not going to

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back off of this any way whatsoever. Now. They're they're
frighted to them. This is Michael's career, you know, and
they're not backing down. And they're they're gonna take it
as high as they can take it, certainly trying to
get his name back, trying to get his job back. Uh.
You know it's personal to him. You know, I've you know,
watched him in the last couple of weeks, and and
he's hurt, you know, he's beyond himself and and disappointment

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and said I did nothing wrong here, Yes, he said,
I you know, certainly we all know what he's done
in the past a ques of being doing. But he says,
in this instance, I did nothing wrong and and and
I'm being a cue from being tried. You know, as
he said last week, I'm being hung uh without evidence.

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All right, Clan's chill Hill thought telegram man. I appreciate it.
Thanks a lot. Thank you, man, I appreciate it. All right,
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This is the all a riddle and you're watching Roland
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Roland Martin on Filter. Let's pull up our panel right now.
Joining us on today's show, we of course have Randy Bryant,

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d EI Disruptor, doctor Jason Nichols, Senior Lecturer, African American
Studies Department, University of Maryland, College Park, and of course
a man, doctor Larry Walker out of Florida. Glad to
have y'all here. Here's a whole deal here. Reputation is
everything everything, Randy and so Michael Irvin absolutely, if he

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believes he did nothing wrong, he should fight this thing
tooth and nail. I hope he does. I hope he
does not give up. There have been too many instances
of false allegations against black men, and black men unfortunately
are guilty until proven innocent, which is not right. And
I hope that after they're done with the case against

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Marriott they actually go after a civil suit against the
woman who's making the false allegations. This cannot continue. Yes,
it's hurting his career, but even when this is cleared up,
and I believe it will be, there will still be smoked.
It never will be the exact same. There will always

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beat doubt and that is a burden on black men
that he has to carry that around the think here,
Jason again, watching that video and yes it's just video,
there's no audio, but you would think that if Irwin
said something obscene as this woman alleged, we would see

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a different type of reaction on that video. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, when you look at it and you take
into account, you know how a reasonable person would would react.
Now that's not to say that somebody may not react differently,
but with the actions that were taken in terms of

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banning him from the hotels, leaving him on Super Bowl
week and without anywhere to stay, with that kind of reaction,
I think you should have more solid proof than just
one person's word. And you know, to me, it seemed
like the reaction by by Marriott is not supported by

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the video, and I think you do have to fight
for your reputation. That's incredibly important. That's something that will
follow you. And we know and as you stated in
your previous interview, Michael Irvin's reputation has taken some hits
over the years. He can't afford anymore. And he had
a good job he had, he was seeming to rebuild

(26:44):
his brand and his reputation. He deserves that if he's
not guilty of what's being said about him. And from
what I can see, I would lean toward that. Now
that's not to say that it's a definite. As you stated,
we don't have audio, we don't know what he said,
but from what we can see, it doesn't appear to

(27:06):
support what's being alleged. And uh, you know, I think
he deserves, you know, at least for him not to
be smeared the way that he's that it's seeming like
he's being smeared right now. Uh, Larry so Roland you
mentioned earlier in terms of you know, the chi ups

(27:29):
and downs that Michael Irvin is an encounter in his
professional career in after and I think this is this
is this people assuming based on some of those issues
that whatever was said between Michael and this lady are accurate,
and then that's unfortunate in today's society. And I'm really
interested in see how this plays out over the next

(27:49):
couple weeks, couple of months. And you said, I mean, Roland,
you've been really clear as you point you made in
terms of and even the last interview that you know,
Michael has been really and his attrain has been added
about that he didn't say say the things that he's
being accused of saying. And Marriott's response to this allegation
was substantial in terms, like I said, put him out
of hospital, banning I mean at their hotels, etc. So

(28:13):
it was pretty extreme. But the thing I'm thinking about
in terms of like I said, and urban and some
of the challenge he said in the past, can he
even get back to where he was prior to this
this conversation. And I don't know, I don't know the
answer to that, you know, in today's society in terms
of um, you know, making sure that women are in
being treated unfairly, I don't know if he could ever

(28:34):
get his reputation back. And no one, I don't know
what he said. No one knows what really was said
between those two, And certainly we can watch video and
then obviously there's no audio, and see some of them
their interaction and look at body language and try to
assert assume what happened. But this becomes sha and the
question is, once again, is there any way in terms
of him beginning back his reputation that existed five seconds

(28:57):
until their interaction. And I really don't know what to
answer that question. But the interesting se the how it
plays out, all right, then we certainly will be following there.
Speaking of following, y'all, we are following what's happening in Florida.
I have been telling y'all for quite some time that
what Republicans are doing in Florida and other states a

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tax on black people and anything dealing with equity. Well,
now what we're seeing play out here, it really deals
with the issue of d ei that they are So
there have been two bills that have been proposed in
Florida that could have a negative impact on historically black

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COUTUS universities. There are two bills, Senate Bill to sixty six,
House Bill nine ninety nine. Now Governor Rod de Sciantists
backs these bills aimed at restructuring and how our education,
eliminating all diversity, equity and inclusion programs from college curriculum.
Now that has advanced in the state House committee. The

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bill was approved of a twelve to five party line
vote by the House Post Secondary Education and Workforce Subcommittee
and now advances to the full UH now advances forward.
Now join us right now is talent from Talahassee as
far as they Representative Christopher Benjamin. Representive Benjamin glad to
have you here now based upon what I've seen that

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the House bill is more draconian than the Senate bill,
So explain the negative impact this could have on historically
black coltists or black fraternities and sororities. Thank you and
also Latino, thank you Rolan for having me um. I
think what the fear is is that there is programming

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that we in our Black Greek organizations UH that we
do that cater to our community, that deal with issues
that are in our community. And I think what the
real fear is is that that type of program mean
that these organizations are historically known for, could be unpended
by this particular legislation, meaning that those student body organizations

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won't get to address some of the issues that they
would normally address because those issues may deal with areas
of law now that are being sought to be banned.
But in terms of our existence on college campuses, the
plain reading of the language of the bill doesn't provide
for our being banned from college campuses. But what the

(31:32):
fear is is that there is a part in the
House bill that subjects us to the policies and procedures
of the universities, and a changing that by university could
possibly have an effect on us. Now, I just saw
a tweet represented Chevin Jones just tweeted, I would like

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to publicly thank the bill spawn or Senate Build two
sixty six Senator Aaron gral for hearing the concerns of
our black fraternities and sororities by removing language that could
have been an unintentional consequence to our organizations. As a
proud member of Alphifi Alpha, thank you. Yes. And that's

(32:18):
great because you know, both the Senate and the House
build has to have homogene in order to pass on
to the Governor's desk. So with the Senate making it
clear that the Black Greek organizations such as Mine, the
or make a sou five fraternity incorporated doesn't have a
possibility of losing a status on college campuses. What this shows,

(32:43):
and this thing what I keep trying to explain to people,
we have to be extremely vigilant because the actions of
these Republicans could have just significant impacts on African Americans.
They want to get rid of anything that deals with yeah,
and and and and that's what's sad, because you can't

(33:05):
tell me how equity and equality can't live together. And
that's that's the narrative right there. They're going to switch
equity for equality, and we know that they don't. They
don't mean the same thing. Uh. But it doesn't also
mean that they can't live together, uh in harmony. There
are things for which we demand equity for because of
the position that we have stood in society from a

(33:28):
historical standpoint um. And so obviously so a bullet has
been dodged. But but certainly you and others there in
the black hawkers got to remain vigilant because trust me,
I don't trust the scientists at on anything. Hey listen,

(33:49):
rol and they call me, they call me to fix it,
a representative And if in any way we can make
a bill better. That's what me and my team are
out here doing, is trying to make these bills better,
even though even if we can't vote for them. At
the end, we try to make the bill better for
public consumption and so that we can make sure that
our college professors know what they can and cannot teach.

(34:10):
I think that's the chilling effect. When you purposely make
these bills vague, then that's when our professors are in
fear that they don't know what they're allowed to teach
and what they are they can't teach. Ours and benasiment,
we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Hey, we appreciate you.
Roll and keep it up. Thank you very much. Randy,

(34:30):
I want to start with you. Like I said, these
consistent attacks on anything dealing with d EI. This is
what Republicans are doing. And when I keep trying to
explain to people, this is not just about public education.
They want to go after anything dealing with d EI
in corporate America, in law firms, in accounting firms, they

(34:53):
want to go after it all. This is all driven
by white fear, right, it's not just I don't think
people understand it's not just about limiting what students are accepted,
but it also is about limiting the professors that are
hired and also limiting what they're allowed to teach. If
you look at what's happening in Texas, they have specific

(35:16):
words that you cannot use or you can be fired.
So one of those like systemic racism, right, So they
really don't want history taught the way that it actually existed.
So you're not able to even say these words, much
less teach the concepts. So they're restructuring history altogether to

(35:39):
ensure that, of course, it favors them and ensures that
they are when it comes down to voting and things
like that, people are not educated. The word that they're
using is there's this whole attack on the word woke.
Whereas woke, you know, like Michael Harriot said, anytime black
people come up with a term that simple realizes our liberation,

(36:02):
there are people who use it as change it into
almost like a curse word. And so that's what woke
is now, and they don't want people to be woke,
which is honestly just means aware and educated. They're doing
everything to stop that. Also with these bills, it's not
just about hiring new professors. It also is saying that
they can evaluate the professors who are there now, evaluate

(36:27):
the curriculum they've been teaching, and evaluate them on standards
that don't include d EI because the assumption with certain
people is that if you fall under a marginalized group
or protected class, then you probably only got your job
for that reason, right, and not because you are highly qualified.

(36:49):
So it's dangerous what's happening now, Lara. You're there at
a university then Florida State University, and what I keep
being a lot of teachers, professors who frankly, they don't
know what the hell are to say or do because
you don't know what could offend this governor and Republicans
in Florida. So let me just be clear. I know,

(37:13):
you know you just heard about the Senate bill, which
is not as anti black as this House bill. I'm
just going to be clear this is these bills are
draconian rolland and this will become a template for how
to destroy higher education, particularly when it comes to taking
away tenure, not only in Florida and Texas, but nationally

(37:34):
in red states. And if either version of these bills pass,
it's going to have a ripple effect and higher education
throughout the United States. And you're right, Roland. I'm very
involved on campus in terms of the issue supporting black
faculty and staff, and there are a lot of people
concerned this will lead to a mass exodus. Let me
also highlight some of the troubling provisions of the bill

(37:55):
rolland one of them is traditionally faculty members involved in
hiring and then it merches way up the chain in
the President proves it this bill in the House version,
the board makes the decision who gets hired with no
input from the president, university, or faculty. So there's no
there's no shared governance here. So what you have here
is a power play. What the idea is You either

(38:16):
have you who continually have members of the board and
the president who has more right leaning and then will
hire right leaning professors who espouse certain ideas. And so
this idea to d I is some kind of is
an issue and it's destroying America. But there's no focus
on the issues or the reasons or the ideologies of
why we had January six and why we nearly had

(38:39):
an insurrection in this country. So DI is not is
not the issue here. But once again, rolling this is
a reminder of people that the civil rights movement never ended.
This has been ongoing, and the black folks don't continue
to fight as vigilant as possible, then this will become
a template for what we see in states throughout the
United States and will end be the end of higher
education as we know. You're there in Maryland. Luckily, Jason,

(39:05):
you've got Democrats control in the House, Senate and the
governor's mansion. But trust me, this could be a template
for what could happen by Republicans across the South and
how this can negatively impact many of our HBCUs that
are state universities. Yeah, I agree. I think I'm gonna

(39:25):
sound the alarm even more than my colleagues just stated.
I think that this is an attack on the First Amendment,
on academic freedom. I think it's terrifying and number one,
me being in black studies doesn't matter what state I'm in.
I feel like my field and discipline are under attack,
in particular by a guy who could end up being

(39:48):
the next president of the United States. And I think
it's also an attack on things like Chicano studies, Native
American studies, Women's studies, LGBT studies. This is an attack
on academic freedom, particularly for untenured people. They're not going
to teach the ways that they are trained to teach.

(40:10):
They're not going to teach the classes that they want
to teach. This is something that I think should sound
alarms for everyone across the country. And again, we're just
coming out of a Republican administration, and you know, two
of our last four governors have been here in Maryland
have been Republicans. So I don't necessarily feel one hundred

(40:30):
percent safe here, even though this is a blue state
and you know, our legislature is overwhelmingly democratic, but you know,
these kinds of waves can go through the country. We
should all be advocating for what we can fix here
because this is this is terrifying. When you start saying

(40:51):
you can't say certain words, you can't read certain books,
you can't sign certain essays. I think that that should
be chech should terrify all right, everybody, and be a
First Amendment violation. And we should see lawsuits all around
the country against the RHN DeSantis and what's going on
there in Florida. All right, folks, hoo type one second,

(41:13):
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including Sierra catching lots of heat for the sexy some
say the grading dress she wore to the band affair
Oscar Party. I've got a few words about that. You

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What time is Johnny? All right? Bos, Welcome back to

(44:07):
Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. You know,
one of the things. First of all, while we were
in the Going to Break there, Randy's sent me this year,
so you remember the Republican judge you spoke at Stanford
University and wine and complained about the so called won't

(44:27):
mob of students who were critical of him. And there
was a dean there at Stanford who took him a
task as well, or Stanford's apologized for the words of
that particular dean. And again because they did not like
this Trump appointed judge who they say had been taunted.

(44:48):
It isn't amazing. They love to call people snowflakes, but
when they get any sort of criticism, they in turn
do the exact same thing, and just you know, oh
like afraid of any criticism. I'm afraid of any heat.
And so all they do would just complain about something,
all right, That's what they do. Control room have y'all
found the Sierra photo. All right, y'all all, So here's

(45:13):
the deal. So Sierra, of course, the singer married to
NFL quarterback Russell Wilson. She turned a lit of heads
and some post battered live of eyes or with this
outfit she wore to the after parties at the Oscars,
this sheer dress. Some say it's not a dress, and boy,

(45:35):
it's been a lot of people have been commenting. In fact,
somebody hopped on my Instagram page and told me that
old someone must have had my page because I approved
of what she had on, and there were others who would.
Somebody else's said, you know, I can't. How dare you

(45:56):
you would be angry if your wife wore something like that?
Let me remind y'all something here right now? Okay, Sierra,
Princess Harris, that's her actual name. It's thirty seven years old.

(46:17):
Sierra is a grown ass woman. And when I hear
these people talking about, oh, how dare her husband let
her wear again, that's a grown ass woman. So somebody
said again they posted you wouldn't let your wife wear it?

(46:39):
Her ass can wear what she want to wear. She
grown Now. If folk criticize what you got, A praise
what you got, then you deal with that. But what
the head is wrong with some of y'all who want
the police would have grown ass woman, Maybe some of
the people out there whining and complaining back because you

(47:00):
ain't got Sierra's body. Now, if that's your problem, will
take your ass to the gym or call one about
dietitians and get your act together. But what I'm what
I think is just beyond stupid. We see, first of all,
we all remember the dress j Lo wore to the
Grammy years ago. We still talk about that address. Okay,

(47:21):
there have been other people who have worn outfits, who
have worn dresses are just as revealing as that one.
But I don't care these folks. Ready, folks are really
killing me with this whole How dare her husband let
her walk out the duel with that own right? And

(47:45):
she's an entertainer who is always dressed seductively. This is
not something new, um, and I believe that she can't
wear when she wants to wear, but clearly her husband
was fine with it. But there's always been a battle
for black women being able to be many things, to
be professional, to also be sexual. We've always been the

(48:07):
ones who are called fast if we do anything, and
I think that we need to release that and allow
us to be whole women, um and do as we
want to do. Uh, they killed me, Jason with how
did Russell Wilson let It's just like when when I

(48:28):
went to the to the Howard Charter ceremony. That was
a brother. I had my African outfit on and his
brother said, man, I wish I would have won. My
my wife wouldn't met me. I said, Hell, you mean
let your ass grown. My wife ain't got no veto
power over a damn thing I wear, and they ain't
got to beat about she wear. Now she asked my

(48:50):
opinion about something I'm she's wearing. I'll give my opinion
as if she asked. Now, I don't ask opinion what
I wear. I wening. Hell, I want to wear. But
that's just that's that, that's just straight up okay. But
I just don't get this whole deal. How did he
did he let her see thirty seven and grown right? Exactly?

(49:12):
I don't get. First of all, she looks fantastic. I
think she looks great. I think I think Lizzo looks great,
you know. And I think they make decisions for themselves. Um,
and it's a red carpet. People wear things on a
red carpet that maybe we wouldn't wear to the movies,
you know what I mean? Like, I don't understand why

(49:32):
people were so offended and why people are either offended
by Russell Wilson or offended for Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
is a grown man himself. He's fine, he's okay, he's
not blinking for help. He's next to a beautiful woman
and she's making her own decisions. He's making his own decisions.

(49:54):
They're parenting together, they're living their lives together, and they
are not worried about European So just everybody just needs
to chill out, enjoy it for the red carpet that
it was, you know, for that event, and you know,
just get off of everybody you know, back about it.
She looks great. Hey, Larry, I got some folds sports

(50:18):
actuary filter on the chat room rolling. I'm sorry, but
you never go against an A list black Celerity y'all
sports actuary, grown ass woman. I Share has warm revealing outfits.
Rihanna has warm revealing outfits. Numerous folks have somebody even
go sit you out, asses down, Larry, go here with

(50:39):
your comment. So I think I'm gonna go to this
old adage, stay out of grown folks business. That's first
of all. Checking of all, stop trying to police black
women's bodies. This is what this is really about. And
so listen, Rolling, I don't she can wear whatever she
wants to wear. I'm not on here to get myself
in any trouble. She does not get permission from her husband.

(51:01):
She is she she owns her own body, and she
she worred. Well, I congratulate her. Um, you know, like
I said, you know, you know, I know Hollywood is
all the pressures you have to deal with and in
terms of wearing what you look like, and she has
to deal with all that husband obviously being the UH
star quarterback. So once again ruling, I'm not gonna police
a black woman's body. She she she wore. This is

(51:24):
her decision, and I salute her. Hey, let me just
play in something to y'all. Okay, all right, so um
this would be me at the band in fair party. Uh. Rolling,
I can't believe, um, Uh, your wife wore that. I'm

(51:45):
with her, she with me. You take your ass on.
I'm gonna sit here and look at her and guess what.
You can look at her too, But I'm one going
home with her. Anything else you gotta say, I thought so,
y'all see, do what you do, Do what you do,
be fine and grown and wear what you want to wear.
And the rest of y'all got don't like it, Take

(52:07):
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All y'all, let's talk about hair. This has been one
of the issues that many black women in Hollywood who

(54:49):
are models in the music game have complained about for years.
The black women who are also in television TV anchors
that you got the folks who do their hair who
do not know how to do black hair. Um, when
you talk about the styles, when you talk about uh,

(55:09):
the items we use, uh when I uh was always jokes.
When I did my TV one show News one Now,
that was so so. The studio that we use was
at NBC News Channels. Whenever Nby's, whenever Brian Williams or
Rachel Maddow or any of them would come to Washington, DC,
they would do their show from the exact same studio.
And so that was a two deck table that was

(55:32):
right on the left side, and so um on the
on the top shelf was uh, you know one of
those brushes. Uh, that is easily that for white folks hair.
That's what Brian use on a bottom. It was a
bristle brush. Well that's what I use. We didn't use
the same hair. We've heard the exact same thing on

(55:54):
the issue of makeup, how black folks are made up.
We've heard this, how black people are licked. Then we
can go down, we can go down the line about
this because we talk about again how different shades and
in terms of how we're lit, how we are shown.

(56:15):
So the topic came up on Sherry Shepherd's daytime talk
show and so watch this conversation. So this is one
thing I'm very upset about. A black model posted a
viral video of how her hair was styled for a
New York Fashion Week show. Okay, look at Ravens show.
The clip a stylist attempting to do her hair. But

(56:39):
this was a fail. Look at this. What are they pulling?
It's like they pulling. What are they doing? I hate this?
And so they did, we're pulling on her hair. Well,
and then they were attached a synthetic They attached a
synthetic like tail to the back of head, her face
looks beautiful to hair. I don't know what. Uh. This

(57:00):
is a big complaint with black models and actors, and
you know, when you're on the set with people who
don't know how to do your hair, and in the
modeling community, I don't think they have enough black people
who know how to do the women's hair and aftroing
hair because there's a certain way you have to manipulate
the hair John so it comes out like this, And

(57:22):
she looked beautiful, but her hair looked crazy and it's
and then I'm gonna tell you it happens with actors
as well, when we get on the set and we
don't have anybody to do our hair as usually when
we first start out. Because I was on a sitcom
one to tell you, they didn't know how to do
my hair. I had pressed it the night before so
they could just do it. But the man thought the
hairstylists thought it was too oily, so he poured face

(57:45):
powder on my hair to absorb the oil, and then
that congealed up and it got really lumpy. Then he
blowed dried my hair. Okay, that's like cooking fish in
hot green. So he burned my hair out and it
was such a mess, we couldn't do the show. They
had to call Her name was Julie. She worked over

(58:05):
her own living single. She did Queen lad take Fromtiva's hair.
She was on the same light. They called Julie to
come and do my hair and fix it all up.
And I remember I just wanted to cry because a
lot of times, if it's not your show, you can't
say anything with it. You can't get an attitude. You
don't want to be seen as somebody hard to work with.
And it really messed up my hair. I lost some hair.

(58:26):
And this is what I hate, john when you're going
to set. I did another sitcom and when they say
to me, this is what they always say, Oh my gosh,
naturally pretty. We don't have to do anything that's called for.
We don't have no idea what we're doing. We don't.
Johnny Wright is the author of Natural and Curly Hair

(58:47):
for Dummies. He had styled hair for the likes for
Cleady Michelle Obama, Tamarin Hall, and many many more. Of course,
I knew Johnny when I was on radio or w
BO in Chicago. Go Johnny, glad to have you on
the show. Johnny, this is having me. This is not
just about who can got glad to have you here.

(59:08):
This that is about who can do hair. This is
about economic opportunity. This is about economic exclusion. How black
hairstyle is, how black makeup artists, lighting directors have been
frozen out, and then the black artists have been left
to fend for the defend for themselves and sometimes looking
crazy as hell. About folks who don't know how to

(59:28):
do their hair, do they make up, or how to
light them. It happens all the time. It happens on
movie set. Tullivan is that and on run rays. And
having been editorial, there's always a fear when a black
woman goes into on set if the person there is
gonna know their texture properly and know how to manage it,

(59:49):
style it and take care of it properly. It's a
big deal, and it's art deal. That's the reason why
I wrote the book. And I'm sure you have lots
of horror stories of getting that nine one one Johnny
get here. Yeah, it happens. It happened all the time,

(01:00:12):
you know, and particularly on set because you know, even
with the Union, you know, I just applied for the union,
and of course every year, they make it harder and
harder for you to get into the Union. I was
accepted last year and then I had the flu, so
I couldn't make the interviews, so that meaning I was
denied and now I'm back trying to get back in again.

(01:00:32):
But the thing is is you would think they would
want to have us on set because there are so
many black actors on set and you want people there
to delegate and know exactly how to do their hair. Attack. Sure,
and I have gotten a call so many times can
you meet me on set? Can you come here and
can you fix this? Because the person on that set
wasn't able to do that texture and the thing. So

(01:00:59):
you all so have to get around. So I'm sure
us situations when it was kind of like, okay, do
the hair in the car, or do the hair at
the hotel and then will show up because again that's sister.
She's trying to look her best. And if you got
those Union folks who like absolutely not can't do it here, Okay,
we're gonna figure this. We're gonna figure the way around

(01:01:20):
and suck it in. Yeah. The thing about it is
it says, you know, for me, when we went to
beauty school, we learned about all textures of hair. Now specifically,
most of the textures that was in the Miladies book
was focused on straight white hair, right, But because I
went to Dudley's Beauty College, they focused on natural hair,

(01:01:43):
They focused on relaxers, and they focused on all the
things that were in our community. But but what I
don't understand is all money is green. You know, when
I worked in Chicago, ninety five percent of my clientele
was black, five percent was white. But then when I
moved to La, ninety percent of my clients was a white,
ten percent was black. And the thing is, for me,

(01:02:03):
money is green. So I want anybody to be able
to sit in my chair, no matter what color you are.
It's all about understanding texture and being a true hairstyles
and being able to invite anybody into your chair. And
I saw a video you dropped where you said, yes,

(01:02:23):
you are supposed to learn how to do different textures.
If you want to call yourself a celebrity or whatever
a hairstyle is, damn it, learn how to do all hair. Listen,
if you want to call yourself a hairstylist, period, learn
how to do all hair that should be a standard

(01:02:46):
when it comes out and getting your license, they should
have some type of testing to know that you can
work with each texture of hair. So there's no such
thing as discrimination in your business. So if somebody comes
into line and they want the air done, you can
serve with them because you learn how to do that
in school. There should be no way that you you

(01:03:09):
you're in a salon, you're in a let's say, applies
to somewhere, and not anybody can walk in and get
the air done if they go the same for a
black spot us to be able to do all Texas
are it should be the same for the others. Questions
from our panel. Randy, your first, Randy, you're muted, sorry

(01:03:36):
when you say that people should learn all types of hair,
which is a great d i um problem to have
problem or a fixed right now, when you get your license,
are you only tested on one type of hair? So
it's according to what school you go to, right, So
I went to Dullis Beauty College, which is, you know,

(01:03:57):
a predominantly black school, but we learn all texts of
hair in that school. But if you go to maybe
a Paul Mitchell, it will be a little different. The
demographics there are going to be more on the white side,
and that's what they're gonna teach you. But to answer
your question, when you get your license, when you go
get your state board, there should definitely be a clause

(01:04:18):
in there where you can be tested. You have a
theory testing and then you have a technical testing. Right,
the technical testing should include all texts of hair. That
way you know that this person is equipped to work
in any salon. Absolutely absolutely, So there seems to be
the diversities there, but there's no nothing that's been done

(01:04:39):
to create inclusion. Exactly. It should start at ground zero,
which is when you're in cosmology school. I remember when
I was in working at the White House, I was
working at Immortible Love It, which is the predominantly white salon,
and the owner of the salon wanted me to teach
the staff, which is the all white staff. The only

(01:05:00):
black thoughts in there. Um the one of the teachers
to have on textured hair so they can all invite
anybody into their chair. And that's the type of work
that these salons needs to be doing across the world. Absolutely.
Thanks for that. Yeah, So I'm glad you wrote a
book about this and we know what you know, policy
wise to Crown Act the state and federal level. You know,

(01:05:21):
in terms of how you know, um, black women's hair
in the workplace, etc. But I wanted to find out
in terms of the industry with your book, have you
been invited to various places to give speeches to talk
about the importance of this considering all your years of
experience in the book that you have. Yeah, so I
have been invited prior to the book to speak out

(01:05:44):
this in certain areas. But the book just came out
in November is doing it well. And my eleventh City
tour has just got picked up, so that's going to
start in June, and these are the type of conversations
that we're going to have in those eleventh cities. And
I will of course be doing a more left around
this topic now that the book is out and it's
getting more popular. I would definitely see myself getting invited

(01:06:06):
into these spaces more often. I definitely want to continue
the conversation because again, it's really about texture, right. Anybody
can possess that texture of hair. You know, these textures
go from white to black, but they all anybody can
have the texture, So learn the texture is what's key,
then you could you could take the race out of it.
It's really about learning the texture. Jason. So this is

(01:06:32):
a really really fascinating conversation. Uh, you know, I always
think about what I would always hear from women that
they would want a Dominican stylists because they have to
know how to do everybody's hair, you know, because they
go from very straight hair to very you know, tightly
coiled hair. Is you know I guess my question is

(01:06:53):
you talked about beauty schools. Is there a way to
standardize this show that you know, someone in Iowa has
to know this, you know, know how to do you
know four see black hair. Is it standardized just by
state or is it is it nationwide? Are there nationwide
standards for beauty school So they're the part of the curriculum,

(01:07:18):
right where you have to take a manual test and
showing certain things that you learn in clinical and when
you're in school, right, and I remember us learning how
to do relaxers and learn how to do also terms,
which back in the day was called Jerry curls. Right,
those are the things that we have to be able
to do in order to pass to get our stay board.

(01:07:42):
So to ask you a question. The same thing can
be done when it comes down to understanding all texts.
They could be a part of the manual testing of it,
where you're qualified and you are required to understand and
to work with all textures of hair. So yes, it
can be you know, put in through the state board,

(01:08:03):
through each state, and basically it has to start with
each state at a time, and then it could spread
around around the whole country. Thank you well. Like so
much of this country, like so much of this country,
white is over the top of the list. And as
I said at the outside, Johnny, this obviously impacts those

(01:08:24):
women who get their hair done, but this is also
how African Americans like yourself are frozen out of the industry,
don't go on to become celebrity styles or doing shows,
stuff along those lines. And so this is how we're
also hurt economically. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's really true. This
is why I am so in support of the Crown

(01:08:46):
Actor because they're starting to do, you know, so much
work legislative wise around the country just so people can
show up to work as the natural self, you know,
and that is going to change, and then hopefully that
can trickle down into the colontology schools and to stay
board and then you can have a more understanding of

(01:09:06):
what is proper when it comes down to how you're
dressing black women in their hair texture, how you look
at them, and how they're you know, how they're viewed
when they walk into the workplace. All those things are
systematic things that we need to debunk at this one
in time. All right, Johnny, Right, were so appreciate that man,

(01:09:28):
Thanks a much, thank you. All Right, folks, going to
a break. When we come back, we'll talk about what's
happening with black children dying, childbirth, what's going on with that. Also,
there's been a Howard has to check the white man

(01:09:49):
on a plane who says, I bet my status is
higher than his. There's been like you want to bet,
wait till we show the video. If you're watching Rolling
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We've seen the headline major tech companies laying off Google, Facebook, Twitter,
just to name a few, and tens of thousands have
been laid off as a result. On the next Get Wealthy,
we take a look at what it means to recession
through your career in tech. Joining me will be Knique October,

(01:10:31):
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to do to turn anxiety into achievement. Shifting our mindset
to thinking that only opportunities exist in big tech is
something that we're going to have to like shift fast
because there's so many opportunities that are out there that
we have to change the way we're thinking about our careers.

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That's right here on Get Wealthy only on Blackstar Network.
On the next A Balanced Life with Me, Doctor Jackie,
we entry anxiety. A lot of us are having trouble
transitioning in this post pandemic society and don't even realize it.
We are literally stuck between two worlds in purgatory. How

(01:11:17):
to get out of purgatory and regain your footing and
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because as soon as you label an emotion, it's easier
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Sherry Shepherd. You're watching Roll and Martin Unfiltered, and while

(01:12:01):
he's doing unfiltered, I'm practicing the walk. Darling and Turner

(01:12:26):
has not been seen since November twenty second. The fifteen
year old teen walked away from her Indianapolis, Indiana home.
She's five feet four inches ta always one hundred and
thirty pounds with brown hand brown eyes. Anyone with information
about Darling Turner is urged to call the Indianapolis, Indiana
Police de Bench Bold Police Department at three one seven
three two seven three eight one one three one seven

(01:12:47):
three two seven, three eight one one. A Missipipigue family
looking for answers in the death of their son. Police
say there was no foul play whatsoever in the death
of Rashim Carter. He is from Fayette, Mississippi, and he
vanished on October ninth after calling his mother, Tiffany Carter,

(01:13:08):
and telling her white men were chasing him using racial slurs.
Tiffany flamed by Si Rig attorney being Crumb explaining reporters
why they are demanding the Justice Department take over the investigation.
Tiffany Carter, whose heart is broken, but yeah, she's still
fighting to make sure that we catch these murderers. One

(01:13:34):
thing is for certain, as Attorney Colneil and I taught
with my investigator of three, this was not a natural killing.
This was not a natural death. This represents a young
man who was killed. His head was severed from his body,

(01:13:58):
his further brave. His spinal cord was in another spot
they discovered away from his severed head. They have recently
felt remains that they believer also received Carter at another

(01:14:20):
part of where he went missing. And what that tells
us is that this was a nefarious act. This was
an evil act. Somebody murdered received Carter. My son told

(01:14:41):
me that it was three truckloads of white guys trying
to kill him. And at the time that he told me,
as a mother, you know, I had to think fast.
So I told him, you know, to go to the
police station, because I felt in my heart that they
would irv and protect like they obligated to do. But

(01:15:03):
at that particular time, I thought telling him to do
that was the right thing to do, but I learned
later that it actually wasn't on the behalf of him.
But at the end of the day, you know, he did.
He was obedient. He did what I asked him to do,
and he went to the police and they did not
They did not help him. He asked for help, but

(01:15:27):
they didn't help him. You know, he did like I said, again,
he did the right thing that asks him, but they
didn't help him. Folks Again, Regime was working in Taylorsville, Mississippi,
when he fled the job site fearing for his life

(01:15:49):
following a disagreement with at least one co worker. He
was discovered on November second in a wooded area south
of Taylorsville, Smith County Shrif's Department. The Mississippi River Investigation
Should concluded there was no file play in his death.
Authorities conducted in autopsy of February second, but declined to
comment sit in the open and ongoing search. In Georgia,

(01:16:10):
a former sheriff is headed to prison for violating the
civil rights of inmates. Victor Hill's going to spend eighteen
months in federal prison after a jury convicted him on
six counts in October of using unreasonable force and violating
inmates constitutional rights by strapping them down and leaving them
in restraint chairs inside the Clayton County jail sometimes four hours.

(01:16:36):
Who will also have six years of supervised release and
must complete community service federal prosecutors who wanted him to
serve four years in prison. He was a sheriff in
Clayton County for nearly fifteen years before he was indicted
and suspended in two twenty one. Especially election is scheduled
for March twenty first to Hill's replacement as sheriff. Early

(01:16:57):
voting ends on Friday, March seven. Team folks at US
Customs and Border Protection officers charged with deprivation of rights
under color of law and falsifying a document of a
federal investigation. A federal grand jury in the Western District
of Texas returned the three count indictment against Miguel Delgado Junior.
He's accused of using an excessive force in two separate

(01:17:20):
incidents on or about June fifteenth, twenty twenty, and October
twenty to two, nineteen, while he was on duty at
the Bridge of America's port of entry in El Paso, Texas.
If convicted, Delgado faces a maximum sentence of ten years
in prison for each use of force incident and a
maximum of twenty years in prison for submitting a false

(01:17:42):
report about one of the incidents. In Texas, sub Texas
State House democrats wanted to increase access to Mexican American
and black ethnic studies in the lone Star State House.
Bill forty five was reintroduced by Houston cous Democrat Christina Morales.
The bill would required Mexican and African American studies to

(01:18:02):
be offered in every school district at social studies options
in addition to Royal History and World Geography, and allow
the courses to count towards graduation credit. The bill would
require Mexican and African American studies to offer in every
school district at social studies options in addition to Royal
History and would in World Geography, and allow the courses

(01:18:23):
to count towards graduation credit. Mexican American and African American
studies are elective courses in some of Texas one thousand
and two and fifty school districts, with only sixty three
districts reaching Mexican teaching Mexican American studies and fifty eight
conducting African American studies. All right, folks, Desmond Howard NFL

(01:18:44):
Grade was flying and let's just say there were some
turblets in the air. Who better explain it than him?
Watch this video. So I'm on the Americans and the
form it took Golf the supervisor job, and she speaks
to the guy sitting next to me. She said, you

(01:19:05):
want to talk to me. He said, yeah, I think
you should remove this gentleman come to play because he's
sick talk about me. I said, I'm sorry. You're a doctor.
He says, well, you've been coughing all over the place.
This is before we even took off, right, I said,
well you can lead the plane take another flight because

(01:19:29):
I'm not leading. All I was doing was clearing my throat.
So Carol, the supervisor, she's looking and guess what card
he tried to play. He said, I'm sure if you
check our status, my status is higher than his. So

(01:19:53):
I said, Carol, he had checked our seats and let
me know whose status is the highest. And as you see,
I'm still sitting on this plane. As a matter of fact,
we're in the hair right now, the cau cassidy of
him unbelievable. All right, everybody, you guys have a happy Sunday, Jason.

(01:20:21):
The caucassity of him unbelievable, and the fact that he
brought it to status is I mean, it's just ridiculous
all in and of itself, you know, Um, I mean,
I listen people caugh on planes. I get a little
nervous since the pandemic too, But I don't, you know,

(01:20:44):
demand somebody being kicked off of a plane, particularly he's
wearing a mask clearly, so you know, which you don't
have to do anymore. I mean, this is just like
he said, it's caucassidy. It's it's unbelievable that he thought
he could hold the status card in order to have
someone removed from a plane who hasn't done anything but

(01:21:05):
clear their throat, if anything. I mean, I wish that
Desmond could have put the camera on him a little
longer so we could see who he is and uh,
you know, actually not to you know, harass him or
anything like that, so we know, this steer clear of
that individual because he's clearly you know, something's wrong with
that guy. Um, Larry, I've always said so here, having

(01:21:35):
status while flying is the closest we as black people
can get to white privilege. And I never like, yeah,
check the status, the status. Yeah. It's also interesting because
Desmond Howard is a Hasmatrophy winner and also Super Bowl MVP,

(01:21:57):
so he certainly came came from wrong person. But you're right,
I'm glad he you know, he recorded the video and
showed this individual, so he understood who he was dealing with.
But like he said, Desmond said, you saw, we saw
where he was still sitting on that plane. But unfortunate
for black folks rolling, we have to deal with stuff
like this all the time, depending on where we are,
whether it's in the workplace where there's a plane, whether

(01:22:19):
it's on the train station, airport, where we are, we
have to deal with these interactions where people think less
of us because of our race or ethnicity. So I'm
glad the gentleman got humbled. So don't come for Super
Bowl MVP next time, Randy. This is just what it means.

(01:22:39):
This is just Randy, what it means when you're black.
And Desmond was kind of like, I play out man,
about to make you real famous, right, you know? And
I'm not surprised that it happened. I think that all
of us have been checked in different areas just living
regular life, that someone one doesn't feel like we belonged
a certain place and feel superior enough to tell us

(01:23:02):
to get out or to question why why we are there.
I mean, you see people going to pools and everything,
and white people feeling as if they have the authority
to check us, as if we still have to be
walking around with our papers. And so it's always tastes
so good, it's so yummy when it turns out the

(01:23:23):
way it did in Desmond's case, it's really like it's
my favorite song. I replaced stuff like that all the time.
I'll tell you this here. One of the greatest stories
I have ever heard was from Chicago attorney Peter Bino.
So I played golf with Peter when I lived to Chicago.

(01:23:44):
And so Peter is a short dude. Peter's probably five
three five four, Okay, Pete, if you're talling that, my bad.
But he's short. So he gets it, gets on a
plane and in first class and this white guy looks
at him and he goes, well, you ain't tall enough
to play basketball. You're not big enough to play football.

(01:24:07):
So what do you do to be sitting in first class?
Peter Bider straight up, straight up, straight up, Peter Baynell,
without missing a beat, he says, I'm the biggest drug
dealer in Chicago. It was like his Wall Street drug
across the c leg and doesn't say a word the

(01:24:27):
rest of the flight and the whole fight. This guy's
like he ain't know what to do now, mind you.
Peter's a two thousand dollars an hour attorney. Okay, used
to be a minority owner of the Denver Nuggets. So
but he froze homeboy when he said I'm the biggest

(01:24:48):
drug dealer in Chicago. He's like, that's what you get
for asking me that dumb ass question. Let me go
to a break. You're watching Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the
black stuff that work. A lot of these corporations or
people that are running stuff push black people if they're
doing a certain thing. What that does is it creates

(01:25:09):
a butterfly effect of any young kid who you know,
wants to leave any situation they're in, and the only
people they see your people that are doing this. Or
I gotta be a gangster, I gotta shoot I gotta sell.
I gotta do this in order to do it, and
it becomes a cyclable when someone comes around is making
another Oh we don't get you know, they don't want
to push it, to put money into it. So that's
definitely something I'm trying to fix. Two, it's your show.
These other avenues. You don't gotta be a rapping You're

(01:25:31):
gonna be a ball player. It could be the country
scen canna be an opperson, or you can be a
dam whatever. You know, don't trying the different avenues not
as possible, and it's hard for people to realize that's
possible to someone done. We're all impacted by the culture,

(01:25:57):
whether we know it or not, from politics to music
and entertainment. It's a huge part of our lives that
we're going to talk about it every day right here
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(01:26:40):
Hey I'm dian Cole from Blackest. Everybody that your man
Fred Hammond and you're watching Roland Martin, my man unfiltered.
Ye folks who talked a lot about this, the story
about impingmortality, and a new study shows you how devastating

(01:27:03):
this is for African Americans. According to the CDC, about
thirty four one hundred US babies dies suddenly and unexpectedly
every single year. Recent studies, there's the number of black
babies die at almost three times the rate of white infants.
In twenty twenty, the study, published by the American Academy

(01:27:25):
of Pediatrics with research from the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention, found that the SUI D rate sudden infant
issue ID rate per one hundred thousand live births was
highest among black infants in twenty twenties, for passing the
issue ID rate among non Hispanic American, Indian or Alaska

(01:27:46):
Native immigrants, which has been declining since twenty fifteen. Jourining
me now is Board certified pediatrician doctor Orlandre Hancock Upper Marlborough, Maryland.
Got glad to have you back on the show. So, okay,
why do we know? Why is happening the Black babies
at a rate three times more than once. It's an

(01:28:08):
excellent question when you look at the data. Warranty explanations
for the total increase was that there's a reclassification. So
what was previously known as sudden infant death syndrome is
now sudden unexpected infant death syndrome, and those of us
in pediatrics have redefined how we diagnose it once a
baby has transition, particularly for African Americans. There are two

(01:28:28):
factors that I feel that are at play when we
have to look at the risk factors for sudden unexpected
infant death. The first is prematurity. We know that babies
born premature are an increased risk of suid. The second
is what we call low birth weight, babies who are
born less than twenty five hundred grams, and those go
hand in hand, particularly when we talk about an important
issue that you've covered, maternal mortality. Maternal health directly links

(01:28:51):
to birthweight and the timing of when a baby is born.
The second factor, specifically for people of color, particularly Black people,
is that this number significantly increased during the pandemic. Part
of it is housing, how much how much space does
a family have to be able to create space for
that baby to sleep in a crib on a flat

(01:29:12):
mattress without having to co share in terms of betting.
The second is what I call it costs of economy.
A lot of us do not have a parental leaf,
so what ends up happening is that we have to
sleep based on convenience. It's much easier for a parent
to have a baby close by, likely in the bed,
if you have to go back to work after six weeks,
as opposed to having to get up in the middle

(01:29:32):
of the night every two hours to feed the baby.
And unfortunately, for a lot of black people, paternity leave
and maternity are just not what we have access to. Yeah,
and this is the thing that again I always make
this point the focial call and sales pro life. It's
amazing how quiet they are on this topic, right, you know,

(01:29:55):
I always say people people aren't pro life or pro birth,
But we really have to think about are the resources
that are afforded to families to be able to provide
care for their babies. We can push out a bag
of formula and a diaver bag, but we can't create
space for families to perhaps be given a co sleeper.
There are resources available for parents to have the baby

(01:30:15):
in the space with them and have it be more
convenient and of course safe. We in the world of
pediatrics want babies to be put to sleep in their
beds on their backs, without excess covers, no extra blankets,
a firm mattress. And I know your grandma and auntie
will tell you, well, you slept on your stomach and
you were just fine. You don't want your baby to
be the one baby that isn't fine when you put

(01:30:37):
them to screep on their tummies. Questions from our panel. Randy, First,
thank you so much for this important information. I know
that when it comes to birthrates and death that this
was regardless of socioeconomic level at one point. Is this

(01:30:59):
true when it comes to the sudden infant death statistics?
Very good question. Based on this study, there was a
relationship between poverty and risk of sudden unexpected infant death.
And again it goes back to what we talked about earlier.
Where's the safe space in a household for babies to
have space for them to sleep on their own without

(01:31:19):
having the requirement to co share a bed and to
the ability of parents to be able to be at
home and not have to stress about having to wake
up in the middle of the night and then show
up for work the next day. And so when we
think through what from a socioeconomic standpoint, the higher levels
of employment, the higher the likelihood that you will have
parental leave. And that's something that really needs to be

(01:31:42):
addressed in this country, especially if you're trying to tackle
infer mortality rates. This country ranks number thirty five among
developed nations. Like Sylvania is Slovakia has a higher position.
Poland has a higher position in terms of infant mortality
compared to the United States. Thank you for that, Jason. So,

(01:32:04):
I know that that we're talking about um sudden, uninspected
infant mortality, but I'm wondering, you know, we've seen across
the country where Republicans are trying to get rid of
Medicaid or trying to stop Medicaid expansion. Would Medicaid expansion

(01:32:24):
help more infants to live longer? You know, because you know,
I'm thinking because their their mothers would get that kind
of prenatal care that they deserve and they would be
able to you know, I know children are covered, but
would that would that affect this? Do you think this
number absolutely. I always say that a baby's health is

(01:32:44):
dependent on the health of the mother prior to conceiving,
and certainly, if you expand Medicaid, you provide access to
hopefully what will be equitable healthcare so that women can
optimize their health even before they become pregnant. We know
that cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in pregnancy.
We want to make sure that we can address those
issues well before conception, and that really links to access

(01:33:08):
to care. And it's unfortunate that, especially with the Public
Health Emergency ending in May, that across the country you're
going to see a decline in terms of Medicaid coverage
that will then both directly and indirectly impact the health
of black babies. Thank you, Larry. Yeah, I'm wondering if
you could talk about the also the importance of training

(01:33:31):
more black pediatricians and making sure they're in underserved communities
in the role you think this will also play in
terms of lowering these these numbers. Absolutely, I think that
that's a very important question. When there's a level of trust,
when you have concordance in terms of race with your physician.
I know that there are a lot of families that
I have taken care of who felt more comfortable and

(01:33:52):
feeling trusted that they can share with me that they
do co sleep, and then we start to talk about, well,
what's the reason why we're co sleeping? What do I
to do as a physician or resources can I connect
you to. There's a huge fear and a realistic one,
that Child Protective Services will get involved, that babies will
be taken from parents homes. I mean for lesser than
co sleepings. That's the reality when you look at the

(01:34:14):
statistics in terms of how often CPS is involved when
it comes to black families, and so increasing the workforce
in terms of healthcare professionals, particularly in the area of pediatrics,
is critical. Little over two percent of us our physicians
and the majority of us are really starting to gear
towards the subspecialties and the higher paying positions. You know.
I always joke that I roll a Honda and Sally

(01:34:36):
May is my pimp. Because I committed to a career
in pediatrics knowing that I could have chosen any other career.
I initially planned on a career in plastic surgery, but
I lost my cousin my sophomore year, and I said
to my sorority sisters, what good is it if I
fix their faces if they can't survive to five? And so,
knowing that and having others sort of sign on to
have that same mission is how we're going to change

(01:34:58):
the trajectory of our children's health. About forty five seconds
left for that parent out there, is there anything they
can do that's prevented that dealing with sudden infant death syndrome?
The first is to make sure that we focus on
putting our children to sleep on their backs. We know
that the back to Sleep campaign has decreased the risk

(01:35:19):
of sudden unexpected infant death by sixty percent. And have
a conversation with your healthcare provider, your pediatrician, your PA,
or your MP to talk through if you have to
go sleep, let's talk through how we can safely create
space for you and your baby to be in the
same room. All right, dot, which I appreciate it, Thanks
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first ever new millennium African Diaspora encyclopedia series. It's also

(01:39:18):
the first ever to be created here in the US.
Joining us now is Alanni Media Groups Chief visionary Officer, Zorena.
I mean, joining us from Philadelphia. So glad to have
you here, Zorena. So all right. And encyclopedia series, and
so is it hard copy? Is it digital? Because you know,

(01:39:39):
we all remember those of us who are gen x
here as having all of those are encyclopedias and trying
to buy each one of them in our families. I
grew up in the eighties, so the same thing with me.
I always had the hard copies in my house. So

(01:40:01):
what we did is we wanted to the mission of
a Lone media group is to merge traditional media with
modern technology. So it is available in hard copy as
well as e book for a new generation, so they
have to do book reports in schools and things like that.
They can always just kind of go thro and download it.

(01:40:22):
But it's also available for generations like me and yourself,
where you can get it as a hard copy as
well as a box set. I'll have folks reacted to it,
because again, if you didn't grow up with this, you'll
be like you, I'm sure Encyclopedia, What the hell is that? Yeah,

(01:40:44):
And that's exactly it is. That it's been a loss.
It's kind of a lost culture. At this point, you
don't have people giving encyclopedias anymore. So I wanted to
bring that back. I wanted to bring back the Encyclopedia series,
and I wanted it to focus on the fact that
we don't have you know, we have the Britannica, we

(01:41:04):
have all these things, but I wanted it to focus
on the new millennium because the reality is that we're
always going to have a lost history in this country. Always.
There are so many things, and that's actually a part
of our official statement is you know, when Catherine Johnson
died in twenty twenty, she received a memorial everyone was so,

(01:41:29):
and NASA gave her Hall of Fame. But four years
before we didn't even know who she was. If Hidden
Figures wouldn't have come out sixteen, we would have never
known who this woman was and she would have died
in Maine. So we have so many stories like that.
But what we can do now is we can change
the trajectory of that for the future generations. So what

(01:41:51):
the Millinois Chronicles does is it is there for the
other for all generations. But if you're twenty three and younger,
you have for the first time your history people who
are first groundbreaking documented and that's something that no other
generation before them has ever had. That's why the first
one is a collector's edition of twenty and twenty twenty

(01:42:15):
I'm sorry, two thousand and two thousand and twenty, and
we'll bring one out every five years. All right, then
I'll that team here, Larry your first. Yeah, So this
is a great project. Also here glad to hear from
coming from my home, my home city of Philadelphia. I
gotta know that. But can you talk about in terms

(01:42:36):
of you be able to partner with like school districts,
this is a really important historical project or other partnerships
you're creating absolutely, so we are. It started actually as
we were being featured in Library. So we are now
in thirteen libraries around the country so far in California, Arizona, Oregon,

(01:43:03):
and Vermont. And we're also a part of script, which
is the biggest digital library of the world. And we're
also in the digital in the Library of America, the
Library of America. So we started there and then we
started having events and talking to other people. Most recently
we just connected with the Philadelphia School District to have

(01:43:25):
a meeting with the Philadelphia School District to implement it
into schools in Philadelphia. But our overall goal obviously is
to reach the Department of Education and get it filtered
out and put it in all schools. And the beauty
of the Melanoi Chronicles is we are highlighting people, all
people of the African diaspora all around the world. So

(01:43:50):
it's not just Black America. It's mostly Black America, but
we were highlighting everyone from the African diaspora. So if
you're I did an interview one time and they were like, oh,
I'm I'm Puerto Rican or I'm Dominican, and we don't
have anything like this, and I said, no, you do
because you're also featured. So that's our next move is

(01:44:14):
moving into the school system, and we're already making our
moves into the public, public and city libraries in the country.
All right, cool, Jason. So my question is kind of
a simple one. Who did the research for this? And
how long did it take to actually complete that research?

(01:44:36):
Excellent question. Two years. It was two years and three researchers,
to the point where it was at around o'clock. I'll
be very honest with you, I underestimated how much work
this would be when you're covering twenty years of black history,

(01:44:56):
a history of people of African to ask for I'm
very honest about that. I underestimated it. So we had
four researchers, to the point where one of the researchers
text me one day and said, Hey, I've been working
on this all weekend. Do you mind if I go
and get some groceries and take a nap. That's how

(01:45:16):
big it was. I said, I don't. I don't want
to deny you food. It's but it was two years,
and I'm pretty sure we've still missed some people because
it was so extensive. And I'll also be very honest
with you. We've already we're already started the research for

(01:45:37):
the next release of the next Encyclopedia series and it's
almost equivalent to twenty years. I don't know if it
was the pandemic or what, but the Olympics, but we
are doing people of Afrimuni Aspera in the last three
years are doing phenomenal things. So we're already gearing up

(01:45:59):
for that. But the you don't want that point. It
took two years and four researchers. Thank you, Randy. That's
what I was going to ask you. Do you intend
on releasing a new volume every year or yeah? It's
just like Roland said, we all grew up with it.

(01:46:21):
It came out and this is a series. That's why
we call it, you know, that's why it's called the
Encyclopedia series. Because no, this needs to happen. This is
what's important about this. It has to change the trajectory completely,
you know, That's what I was want to say to you.
The timing couldn't be better. I mean, when you look
at what is being done to our schools and how

(01:46:42):
the education is being so limited and really excluding people
from the African diaspora. I am just so excited to
see what you've done here, and I really believe that
kids will do as we used to do. And I
would just read the encyclopedias as if you know, it
was like a real book. So I'm excited about this,

(01:47:03):
Thank you. Yeah, it was very interesting because that's a
lot of people actually ask me that question. They say, Okay,
this is going to be ongoing, and I'm like, absolutely,
because it has to be, And you're right, it couldn't
come at a perfect time. I've been reading in the
last few years. I've been reading all of the you know,

(01:47:23):
keeping up with everything that's been going on in the
school district. And they're actually promoting in some states for
us to not to no longer use the word slavery,
that they were just uncompensated workers. Yeah, but that's insane, right.
That's why my focus is getting it in the school system,

(01:47:46):
because what do we have here? Everybody knows. I'm sorry.
I'm a big fan of Marcus Garvey, and Marcus Garvey
said it best. If people who don't know their culture
and we see them out every day and society our
loss completely lost. If you're only told that you were
slaves and that you are a president. No, there was

(01:48:09):
so much more. But again, we're going to be in
the rest of our lives finding out all the stuff
from the past. But these kids, now they can have
something and say, Okay, since I was born. I have
a niece who's sixteen years old. She was my inspiration
for it. She loved science and technology. I want her
to see the first people and that look like her

(01:48:32):
who are inside. That's why we did something different with
the chronicles. You know, we all know our Psyclopedia series
is are alphabetical. We decided to do it through category,
so if you look at it as science, technology, sports,
and entertainment, government, politics. We wanted to do in categories
because I knew that my niece would immediately go to

(01:48:54):
the science and technology category and see all the people
that look like her who are doing these amazing things
since she was born. She was born in two thousand
and six. Fantastic. So I'm really excited about it and
I want to push it through as much as possible.
But you're right, we have to get it in they
education systems immediately because they are trying to change the

(01:49:15):
rules where they're they're completely trying to abolish our history
because they can't face it because it's too dark for them.
What they did. Oh well, you made a point about
understanding Marcus Garvey. This network is called black Star Network,
which is actually not after the Black Star cruise line

(01:49:37):
that Marcus Garvey. His goal was to connect Africans to
the people of African to sit to the African diaster Boro.
Of course, our goals through the exact same thing with media.
So we certainly here understand who and appreciate who Marcus
Garvey is. We appreciate it. Tell people where they can
actually find your encyclopedia, absolutely so if and you can

(01:49:58):
get it in hard copy and ebook. So the website
feel you can go to our Facebook, our Instagram, it
all has our website at our YouTube and then at
the bottom you can go to a m group LLC
dot biz slash Mellanois Chronicles and you can read more
about the Melanoi Chronicles. We are currently being featured on

(01:50:20):
forty three Comcast Networks, which includes NBC, the Own Network,
Discovery Channel, et cetera, et cetera, which you would see
on the website, and you can read more about us
and you can purchase either a hard hoppy or an ebook,
and we the e books available through Barnes and Nobles.
It's also available through script the Digital Library. I talked

(01:50:41):
about Amazon Audible all of so you can you'll you'll
see the whole list of where we're available and then
if you just want a hard copy to the hard copy.
All right, Zer appreciate a thanks a lot, thank you,
thank you everyone, have a good one. Larry, thank you

(01:51:02):
very much, Larry, Randy, and Jason. I really appreciate you
joining us on today's panel. Thanks a bunch, folks. I
am here in New York. I did the Breakfast Club today,
will air tomorrow. Also be doing EBRO in the mornings.
Also sitting now with blad TV. Also been taking some
meetings from an AD eight he's met with Group M.
Takes a lot of take care, Pop says tomorrow. Waiting
for the folks with OEMD to schedule us as well.

(01:51:23):
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