MS House Bill Hearing on Capitol Police Expansion, AAMA's New President, Biden Clapbacks at Reporter

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Wednesday, May tenth, twenty twenty three, coming up of
Roland Martin don Filtered Streaming Live and Black Starting Network.
A standolf in Mississippi courtroom as Republicans of that state
want to expand this capital complex that really covers where
all the white folks in Jacksonsissippi live. Of course, they
had a legal hearing today. We'll tell you exactly what

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took place in the courtroom. Also, folks, we'll talk about
the issue of what happens when you cannot pronounce my
name right. Well, guess what. So our video coming out
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when Washington DC reporters ask stupid questions and they haven't
even read the damn bill but they want an answer.
Damn President Joe Biden just embarrassed a White House reporter.
Wait till we show you that video. Also, folks, the
African Mayor's Association, they've got a new president. She'll join
us and talk about her priorities are going to be Also,

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You going to prison though, We'll tell you all about it.

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the question.

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No, he's ros.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hello, and then telling you all about this bill in
Mississippi where Republicans want to expand the state police force
should also create their own court, if you will, for
this particular area. When they went to court today and
they judge is considering whether a section of this bill
violates the state constitution. It's Hospital ten twenty. It would

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expand the jurisdiction of the state one Capitol of Police
in Jackson and create a temporary court within the Capitol Complex.
Improvement district covering a portion of the city. Now, a
lawsuit against this specifically takes issue with the required at
Mississippi Supreme Court. Chief Justice will have able to be
able to appoint for judges to the new temporary court
in the Capitol Complex, improving district. State lawmakers say the

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takeover is needed in Jackson, but opponents pretend to measure
lacks judicial authority under the state's law. Chance We Judge
Dwayne Thomas aid he could rule Friday or Sunday on
the merits of the bill. Blake Feldm and his Impact
Policy Council for the Mississippi Center for Justice, he joins me,
now from Jackson, all right, Blake, it is what's crazy
about this here. I have yet to see any data

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from any Republican that explains why they must expand this
and why they need a centerate court. I hear, oh,
crime increased. But this is not covering all of Jackson.
It's only around the capitol, right.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
So what we're challenging is this new CCID court as
an illegitimate court, but also throughout the state of Mississippi,
you have circuit courts, Circuit court judges here felonies they
hear serious criminal cases and serious civil cases.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
They are elected.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
All residents of all eighty two counties in Mississippi get
to elect their Circuit Court judges. Hans County, which is
a majority black county that Jackson is within, has four
elected Circuit Court judges. They are all black. What this
bill requires is the Chief Justice to appoint four more

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Circuit Court judges. So instead of tens of thousands of
majority black electorate choosing their own judiciary, unlike the other
eighty one counties, in Hans, the white Chief Justice of
the Supreme Court will be able to choose by himself

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four That would be half of the Circuit Court bench.
So that is those four temporary appointments that we are challenging.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
But like you said, on top of.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
That, this bill has created this new Capital Complex Improvement
District Court.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
It's an illegitimate court.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's not an inferior court, which is what the state
is trying to argue. And this would be where misdemeanor
cases are held. So instead of the people of Jackson
getting to elect their mayor who appoints some municipal court judge,
or electing county court judges, this is the Chief Justice

(05:29):
choosing the judge for this brand new court that's unlike
any court in the state of Mississippi, where someone convicted
of something like public disturbance or disturbing the peace, unlike
anywhere else in the state, will be sent to state prison.
So for especially black residents of Jackson who have heard

(05:53):
oral stories and oral history of the civil rights movement
and what they did to people charged with just sarvants
of the peace being sent to Partsmen ten twenty says,
if you're convicted of those minor offenses in this brand
new court with a judge appointed by the white Chief
Justice and prosecutors appointed by the white Attorney General, you

(06:16):
will be sent to the Mississippi Department of Corrections.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Okay, but here's what would's still crazy to me. Okay.
So they claim that this is needed because of dramatic
increase in crime. Okay, why don't they simply then fund
more courts for Jackson. Okay, we've been here for people
saying that Jackson and police are leaving the police department

(06:40):
to go to the state police. Okay, Republicans and legislature
fund more cops for Jackson. No with this is these
are largely white Republicans in Mississippi who want to use
their power to control an area of Jackson. They've been
trying to take over the airport, they've been trying to
take over. Now they want after the mayor went to

(07:02):
came to d C and got six hundred million bucks.
Now they want to take over the water system. Uh,
we can go on and on and on and on.
We see this in a Missouri where Republicans want to
take over the Saint Louis Police department. They want to
take over the circuit the circuit attorney's a position. That's
one of the reasons why Kim Gardner resign. This is

(07:22):
these are folks who do not believe in local control
when they are not in control.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yes, they This bill really demonstrates, Uh, the legislature of
Mississippi does not trust giving resources to black led cities,
to black led counties, and they do not trust the
vote with black people. It's paternalistic, it's white supremacist. It's

(07:51):
we know better than you, and this is how we think, Uh,
this city should be run. As far as data that's
been provided, there is nine actually a past version of
or the current version says.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
By next year.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Data has to be handed over to the legislature for
them to decide if the caseloads in the Hines County
Circuit Court merit there being five Circuit Court judges instead
of four. So they're saying, if you give us data
that shows that you need five elected judges and set
of four, we'll give it to you.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that one that I'm confused. Hold up, I'm confused.
I'm confused. So you got a year to give us
data if you need a fifth court, but without any data,
we're going to create four courts. Oh, by the way,
Jackson residents, y'all gonna pay for these four courts and

(09:01):
then we're going to figure it out.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
That's as backwards exactly.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's with judges, but it is. The circuit court bench
is for elected judges. They're saying, if you show us
data that it needs to be five in the largest
county in the state, etet four, we will give you
one more elected. But without presenting that data, we are
deciding that you do need four appointed. So half of

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the bench will be elected, whereas one of the Circuit
Court bench is elected in all the other counties, but
in Hans County you get to elect half and you
are under the jurisdiction of the other half, which are
just appointed by one man who happens to be a
white man who is not elected by the people of
Hans County or Jackson, Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Wow, all right, Bruce, we appreciate it. We look forward
to the judges.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Ruin, thanks a lot, Thank you.

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A lot of morning you're now watching Roland Martin right now,
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Speaker 1 (13:18):
Robert Pattillo his hosts of People, Passion, Politics News Talk
thirteen to eighty WAOK in Atlanta. Rebecca Carroll. She is
the vice president Fair Election Center based in Washington, d C.
Scott Bolden, he's an attorney in Washington, d C. And
belongs to a youth group so called attorney. All right,

(13:41):
so let's get right to it here. So Scott, I
guess I'll start with the Kappa. Let's just be real clear.
Republicans are doing this all around the country. They are
using their power in control of the legislature to control
what's happening locally. In Tennessee, they've been trying to take

(14:02):
over the sports authority. They've been trying to take over
the airport.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
In Florida and Florida and Alabama, Mississippi they passed law saying, oh,
you can't remove Confederate monuments on the local level unless
it's you get permission from US, even if it's on
city grounds. We see what's happening. How Texas is trying
to pass law specifically for Harris County and not the
other two and fifty three counties in Texas. That's what

(14:28):
Republicans are doing right here in Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, Roland, I.

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That will never be You will never see me with
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Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh, it's a white cape. It's a white cap.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, well, but trust it, I'll rock that at the
Delta Convention where that's that's that's the only red and
white that I respect.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
In any event, let me tell you what I think
is real going on here. I think you're right about the.

Speaker 18 (15:02):
Legislatures trying to do this on the Republican side, But
Hines County feels like this is an experiment the Republican
legislature and the Republican governor are going to try out
and his appointees are going to hash out or hand
out very harsh sentences because most white conservatives believe the more.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
You lock them up, and the longer you lock them up,
that crime will go down. That's why they want those statistics.

Speaker 18 (15:29):
The reality is Washington, DC has some of the highest
lock up rates in the country, and yet trying crime
continues to flow.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Lock of people up forever is not the answer.

Speaker 18 (15:38):
But secondly, there are other majority black counties in Mississippi,
I presume, and if this idea works in Hines County,
look for the legislature to try to expand it on
these appointed judges on people they know are gonna sentence
are bad actors the way they want them sentence as
a means of campaigning on we shut crime down by

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appointing judges versus letting black people elect them.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
I think really underline that's what's going on, and if
it is, that's even more dangerous than what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
See Rebecca. One of the reason is why these white
Republicans in Mississippi can do this is because of the
shameful actions of the US Supreme Court and invalidating Section
four of the Voting Rights Act and the Shelby Beholder
decision that cleared the way for them to do the
crap like this, and that's how they they've been able

(16:30):
to get away with it.

Speaker 19 (16:33):
You know, Roland, There's two things that are going on.
I've spoke about it on the show before. Is that
what we're witnessing is American apartheid, and we really got
to keep our eyes open about this and fight this
and fight it like hell. The second thing is this
is also a money grab because, as you know, in Mississippi,
there are for profit private prisons in Mississippi, including private

(16:55):
prisons owned by course of it. And I'm going to
go there where where Good Marshall Junior sits on the board.
So this we're seeing white supremacy we're also seeing some
black folks who are a part of this. But this
is also about money, because the more folks who get
thrown into prison, the more money these for profit private
prisons make because they make money per capita per person there.

(17:19):
The only way you get more people in prison is
if you figure out more ways to jail and imprison people,
and that's what we see that's happening in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
The thing that's also crazy, you're Robert, is that they're
taking this action by telling Jackson residents, oh, y'all got
to pay.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
For this.

Speaker 20 (17:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 21 (17:38):
And I've talked for the last couple of years about
the slow moving, fastiest coup that we're seeing taking place nationwide,
and this is just another brick in that wall. What
Republicans realized in two thousand and eight was they will
no longer be able to win national election, they will
no longer be able to get the popular vote, they
will no longer be able to control the government through
democratic means, and they launched this fastest coop. They're very

(17:59):
slow moving. We saw during the Obama years over a
thousand seats switched from Democrat to Republican nationwide, despite population
growth among minorities and a population declined among the traditional
voter based those Republicans. This is because of voter sup
president this is because of jerrymandering. This is because we
don't have a protective right to vote in this country
after the Shelvy Beholder decision, and as a result of that,

(18:22):
we've seen these constitutional majorities were Conservatives and state houses
around the country. They use those constitutional majority to elect
to African Americans from the state House in Tennessee, to
borrow transgender women from serving in the state House in Minnesota,
to try to remove a Democratic judge from the Supreme Court,
and a state like Wisconsin or in a state like Mississippi,

(18:43):
to take power away from the African Americans those communities
and create an occupation force that we haven't seen in
American since Deposit Cavatada. Is meant to take away democratic means.
Unless we concentrate on these state and local elections, win
back these state houses nationwide, we're going to continue to
see on the action in America take place on the

(19:03):
state level. Because of the grid luck we have in Wathington, DC,
the recusal trends to work across party lines, the inability
to move big legislation.

Speaker 20 (19:11):
Everything over the.

Speaker 21 (19:12):
Next decade is going to be happening in state houses,
and right now Republicans control those because they've invested in
those over the last two decades.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
And the thing that I have consistently said to people
Scott and over and over and over again, if you
set your ass at home, then you are clearing the
way for the folks who hate you to do whatever
is they want, or just voting.

Speaker 12 (19:37):
In presidential elections as opposed to state elections.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
You and I and others on this.

Speaker 18 (19:41):
Panel have yelled and screamed it forever since we've been
doing this show and.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Even before about how important is to vote up and
down the ballot in both federal.

Speaker 18 (19:51):
National elections as well as state elections, because our community
is the first one to complain when the state's attorney
does something we don't agree with, or judged something we
don't agree with, or governor or state legislature.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
So that's really important.

Speaker 12 (20:04):
But remember this on this Hines County thing, this tro
they won was just temporary, temporary restraining order, and there's
going to be an evidentiary hearing whereby the plaintiffs are
going to have to present evidence as to why this
is unconstitutional. That case and the presentation of that evidence
will be really, really important because that TRO is going

(20:26):
to run out. They're holding the status quote right now.
But this TRO does not affect the governor's ability to
appoint these judges in Hines County. The judge is going
to deal with that when he makes his ruling after
hearing evidence in the case from both sides.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
So I hope you continue to report on this, and
I hope we continue to watch.

Speaker 12 (20:45):
What's going on in Hines County because you're going to
see it again in Mississippi and perhaps other southern states.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, and we're gonna do abslutely keep reporting on it
because bomb line is it ain't getting reported on on
CNN or they spent they busy trying to give a
town hall with down T.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It is not being talked about extensively on MSNBC. It's
not being talked about other places. What is why I
keep trying to explain to people why you got to
have black on media because the reality is, we've got
to understand what is going on. We are connecting the dots.
This is not solely just about Hines County, Jackson, Mississippi,
This literally is where Republicans have a super majority and

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where they control the House, the Senate, and the governor's mansion.
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That was a pivotal, pivotal time and literally Kevin Kevin
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He's like, man, what you're doing?

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Man, you got to stay on stage. And I was like,
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And I lost a little bit of.

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That hunger that I had In New York.

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(27:25):
had a news conference. He was defiant. I'm not resigning,
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Punk as Kevin McCarthy says, oh no, well, no, he's
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They had a crazy, insane news conference today. Listen to
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The reality is is it's a witch hunt, because it
makes no sense that in four months, four months, five months,
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foreign destinations into their bank accounts. It's been years of
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Look, bro, And this is one of the big things
that Plato warned us about in the Republic and discussing
the descent of democracy into tyranny, that when you have
the rise of demagoguery over the conceptualization of veracity, at
some point in time, anyone who's a skillful orator or
actor can deceive the public. And this is one of
the weaknesses of our democratic system. There's absolutely no check

(29:31):
in balance o with somebody who lies their way into office,
as we've seen, if you have a weak house leader,
someone like Kevin McCarthy who's holding on by the slimits
of majorities, who knows if George Santos steps down from
office and that seat will more than likely we go
to a Democrat that it will weaken his hold on
howarth willing to sell himself out to the lowest common denominator.

(29:53):
And the fact that we have a political system now
where you can hear the echoes of Trump in every
corrupt politician in this country. They know the playbook from Trump.
You lie, you say it so which hunt you say
people are after you, You discredit the investigation, you try
to deflect it onto some.

Speaker 20 (30:08):
Other conspiracy theory.

Speaker 21 (30:09):
And George Santos at this point in time needs to
be working on a plea agreement as opposed to trying
to fight this out or run for reelection, because in reality,
more than likely we will see a superseding indictment in
this case with more evidence is found, because as you said,
we still don't know where these te one hundred thousand
dollars came from. We do not know much of where
who paid for his campaign, and he has been voting

(30:31):
on important issues in the House of Representatives for four
months right now we do not know who has been
directing those votes and who owns George Santos. And that's
to be a scary thing for everybody who's part of
our democratic system.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
This thing here, I'm telling you right now, Rebecca is hilarious.
And while Republicans, why is McCarthy so scared to move
because they have a slim majority and they know if
he resigns or is forced out as a special election,
Democrats are winning that seat.

Speaker 19 (31:01):
You know, I don't know which is worse here, Kevin
McCarthy's speckless leadership or New York Democrats losing to Santos.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That to mean is the biggest loser in all this.

Speaker 10 (31:13):
How do you lose to this guy?

Speaker 19 (31:15):
Like it just finding out about his antics are just
simply incredible, Like allegedly he stole money from a wounded
veteran and his dog, Like who does that? This is
really like the scrape in the bottom of the barrel.
And then to Robert's point, we don't know who owns
George Santos, who's paying for this lavish lifestyle. I mean,

(31:36):
we now know who owns Clarence Thomas. But it is
a big problem when we have folks who are in
federal office who are entitled and owned by a bunch
of people and we don't know, you know where, we
don't know who he's beholding to. But beyond that, you know,
it's very clear from the indictments that this guy he

(31:59):
has to go, and Kevin McCartney needed to really just
throw him out.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
And I tell you, Scott, other Republicans are like, Yo,
we're tired of this dude. We're tired of his dude.
I think it's going to build. And again the lies
have been compound, that have been compounded and building and building,
And like I say, I don't even know the man
named actually is George.

Speaker 27 (32:21):
I think he's mentally ill. You know, I've been doing
criminal defense work for thirty two years. I'm prosecutor for
four more years, so thirty six years. I think he's
mentally ill. And if this is a witch hunt, the
warlock just got caught with thirteen count federal indictment and those.

Speaker 28 (32:38):
Seven wire fraud chargers are charges of him wiring money
to his personal account and elsewhere, probably political contributions, the
money launding, they're hiding sources, he's hiding and burying his sources.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Of that money.

Speaker 29 (32:55):
And then the stealing of public funds is an unemployment
employment compensation charge that says he lied to get unemployment
insurance payouts, which.

Speaker 12 (33:08):
Is really really sick given what he's reported to the
House to the House in regard to his.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
His disclosures. And so this is a very simple case
to prove.

Speaker 12 (33:19):
And I'm not sure why he's standing out there and
gonna fight because, other than him being mentally ill, this
is a simple case to prove. You ought to enter
intoplete negotiations, get as little time as he can, and
keep it moving.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
The problem is he's been defiant to the system. And
watch this. He would never have been charged. He would
never have been charged if he had just not only
admitted that he lied, and he has admitted.

Speaker 12 (33:46):
He's an admitted liar already. But if he just withdrew
from the race or stepped down from Congress when it
came out, he would never have been charged by the government.
When you stay in and self perpetuate this fraudulent behavior.
You're in the government, especially the d o j or
US attorney to indict you, to investigate you. You're almost
begging them please come get me, because I can't save

(34:09):
myself from myself.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
And that's really what's going on here.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Well, we'll see exactly what they're doing. I gotta ask
you this. Here, we've got Harlan Crowe who refuses to
turn over what gifts that he gave to Clarence Thomas
to the United States Senate. We now know that he's
been paying for the private tuition of the adopted child
of Clarence Thomas. The man bought Clarence Thomas his mama's

(34:37):
creep and she ain't got to pay rent. He's been
taking lavish trips with his billionaire. One website actually reported
in a case Little with Chevron that Clarence Thomas reversed
his own decision in that case after getting all this
money for Harlan crow It is building and building and

(34:58):
building Scott. This case against Clarence Thomas and John Roberts
refused to come upore the United States Senate. Uh, these
people are going to have to do something. This is
an absolute massive ethics, violation, conflict of interest. We now
know that the Supreme Court damn that they cannot be

(35:21):
allowed to police themselves. They are not. If we're gonna
talk about three brands of government, there is not a
single branch of government other than them. When they get
to police themselves, these folks need to be under far
more scrutiny and they need to be having a hell
of a lot more frankly, ethics rules in place than
even the executive branch or the legislative branch.

Speaker 12 (35:45):
Yeah, the Supreme Court can't really be supreme if it's
acting this badly in the real danger with the Clarence
Thomas situation, and it.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Is not a Republican appointee or Democratic appointz. This ethics
piece should cover all of them. And Roberts want to
come up with.

Speaker 18 (36:00):
Some ethical guidelines, and we aught to figure out whether
the APA or DOJ can police those guidelines. But here's
the danger in Harlan Crow though, because Harland Crow may
not have anything pending before the Supreme Court, but you
don't know whose interest Harlan Crow is representing by.

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Disclosing, by by giving these gifts and investing these moneys.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
And adding value to Clarence Thomas's life.

Speaker 12 (36:24):
And by the way, has Clarence Thomas reported these gifts
or this income or any of.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
These transactions on his taxes?

Speaker 12 (36:33):
That's the real question to ask, because whether he had
to report them or not as part of some ethical
review or documentments doesn't exist. Has he reported on his taxes?
And so Roberts's got to come up with something because
this is bringing disgrace on the Supreme Court. And if
you if we can't believe, only fifty percent of Americans
and in some recent polling believed that the Supreme Court

(36:55):
makes sense or the Supreme Court is the supreme determiner
of the law.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
And they have confidence in it.

Speaker 27 (37:02):
Now you're losing something worse on the democracy because you
got politics in the legislature.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
And executive branch. Yeah, but this isn't a political branch
of the government. This is supposed to be bigger, better, brighter,
and uphold the law because we follow the law. Right,
if we stop following the law, we have anarchy. And
so this is a bigger problem for the Supreme Court.
It's very credibility, which is the lynchpin for our democracy.

(37:27):
They got to get it fixed.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Well, go to my iPad center Ron White in of Oregon.
This is what he said. This is from a political story.
He said. Although Thomas neglected to report the gifts on
his annual disclosure forms, White argued they were substantial enough
that Crow would have been obligated to report them on

(37:49):
his annual gift tax returns to the irs. Rebecca, I mean,
and so this billionaire. Oh yeah, I'm not answering y'all questions.
Why is right now? I could just blow off a
Senate committee just because you're rich.

Speaker 19 (38:06):
You know what's really interesting in this is not only
does Arland have to deal with the gift taxes, but
Clarence Thomas might have to deal with the gift taxes
on the receiving end as well. You know, I think
Justice Roberts has in quite a conjured quandary. I personally
think that if this was just Clarence Thomas running a

(38:26):
monk ethically on the Supreme Court, they would have been
cut Clarence Thomas, and you know, Clarence Thomas would have
been on his way out. I suspect that this is
a larger issue on the Supreme Court. There are questions
around Brett Kavanaugh and some of the debts that were
paid off for him, and substantial debts, debts that his

(38:47):
salary that he was making prior to joining the Court
simply didn't make sense, those that he could afford to
personally pay off those debts. Those questions came up during
the confirmation hearings, those questions have since he's been on
the Court.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I think Roberts is.

Speaker 19 (39:04):
Having a quandary here because it may be more than
just Thomas who have these ethical issues.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Oh bomb line Robert is, Look, you are unelected, your
opponent for life. You should have a greater level of scrutiny.
And for him to say, oh, I just asked around
and it was he sounded like, hey, do you think

(39:31):
I could take this trip? Oh? I can, all right, Cole.
So a friend of mine said I could. What the hell.
It's not like he even said he consulted with his attorney.
He learnedly said, yeah, I just asked a friend. The
friend was like, yeah, you go ahead and do that.
Clans go ahead, bro.

Speaker 20 (39:48):
Oh you know, it's amazing.

Speaker 21 (39:49):
For the first time in US history we have confirmation
that Supreme Court justice has a sugar daddy. And I
don't think that's something that any of us had to
study the law school or really expected this idea of
having a Supreme Court justice get fluid out like an
Instagram thought. It's just not something within the realm of
reality when you think about the gravity of the cases,
and Supreme Court is voting on whether or not whilst

(40:12):
having voting rights is dependent on if Clarence Thomas gets
a trip to the mal Deans. Whether or not women
have the right to reproduction depended on Clarence mama's house
gets paid off, whether or not we have a prayer
in schools depended on whether or not Clarence Thomas' son
gets his tuition paid.

Speaker 20 (40:28):
It's an insane system that we existed.

Speaker 21 (40:30):
The reason I brought up played on the last segment
is this goes at the very foundations of our democratic system.
When you have a congress person who apparently is living
a fake life, but yet still in Congress. We have
a president who's a former president who's convicted of sexual
abuse and defamation, and before that can even get out
of the news cycle, we find out that we have

(40:51):
a Supreme Court justice that is a gold digger. You know,
all those things pile up to really question the democratic
system that we exist within, and that's what you start
seeing society's break from the just weight of the corruption
of the system around them.

Speaker 20 (41:04):
And I think we may be near that breaking point.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Damn Robert ig thought a gold digger. I mean, did
you use all of the descriptions up? Hell? I thought you.
I thought you was about to say Harlan Crow gave
him a gold car to Magic City. I mean, my gutns.

Speaker 21 (41:22):
Look, look, there's nobody at Magic City getting flewed up
to the Maldins their house, paid for intuition for their
grand baby. Maybe at Clairemont Lambs. But I'm just saying
that's not that he's getting paid more than any Ig
thought that we know. And he gets to decide if
we get.

Speaker 20 (41:36):
The vote or not.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Damn Roberts sitting time by plan, Kenn I get a
table dance, KENNI get to table dance. All right, let's
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Speaker 1 (43:57):
King of rb Yle Hee Devad and you're watching Rolling
Mark are unfiltered?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
All right?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So yesterday, Jock, I hope y'all saw on our YouTube channel, Well,
I just torched this dumb ass black conservative named David
Lowry who came on here. He ain't have no facts,
he didn't read nothing hell, and he didn't look at
no pictures to understand what the hell he was talking about.
And I just cannot stand when people say stuff and

(44:42):
they don't even bother to read something before they open
a damn mouth. That literally happened yesterday in the news
conference where President Joe Biden took a question from a
reporter who didn't know what the hell she was talking about,
and even Biden was like, damn if you ain't the
brightest bulb in the dark room.

Speaker 31 (45:02):
Roland speaking, McCarty said that he asked you numerous times
if there was anywhere in the federal.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Budget or costs that he did not need an answer.

Speaker 13 (45:11):
So is there again specific answer?

Speaker 32 (45:13):
Got a specific answer again today the first you didn't
listen neither, So why should they even answer the question?

Speaker 13 (45:21):
We cut the deficit down.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like, damn, you ain't listening either. I don't know why
should even talk to your ass I'm a big bidas translator.
Why y'all I'm even talking to your simple simon ass
play by.

Speaker 32 (45:39):
One hundred and sixty billion dollars billion b I l
olio n.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Damn. Now you know somebody just just pimpsle but you
when they spell that shit out, he literally spelled out
billions ass play.

Speaker 13 (45:54):
Dollars on the Medicare deal.

Speaker 32 (45:57):
We cut the deficit by raising the tax on people
making fifty five corporations that made forty billion dollars to
fifteen percent, and the list goes on, So what he
is proposing?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Is there any room for negotiation?

Speaker 13 (46:12):
What's he proposing? Did he tell you No, No, I'm
not being facetious. Did he tell you what he's proposing?

Speaker 5 (46:19):
He was talking about the bill?

Speaker 13 (46:22):
Yeah, what what does it proposed? Do you know I'm
not being a wise guy. You are very very informed people.
Do you know what that bill cuts?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
By? It basically like, what's your ass?

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Got?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
What you got? Then the man literally just embarrassed. Oh,
y'all really are really informed people. What he was saying
is your ass don't know shit? Press Blake.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
There is a long list of things.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
That it cuts.

Speaker 13 (46:55):
Oh no, it doesn't say, it said, Does it say
what's going to cut?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Or just down her as said, there's a long list
of things it says it cuts my life.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
What a play say, generically is going to cut? You
get the problem, Rebecca.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I don't know who that reporter was, but her balls
should say you ask in the time I boxed?

Speaker 19 (47:33):
You know, I don't understand why reporters ask questions they
don't already know the answer to, like to me, that's
the first thing. The second thing is, don't carry any
any other person's water just because you heard someone summarize
something and you don't. Don't take that as fact.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Do your own research.

Speaker 33 (47:50):
And Biden was right here.

Speaker 19 (47:52):
You know what she was asserting, what she was carrying forth,
what she heard from the speaker wasn't accurate and hem Barrister.
So you know, I hope her editor has a really
good lung conversation with her while she really needs to
do research, you know, before asking the President of the
United States a question that simply is not so that's

(48:13):
based upon a faulty premise.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
See, Robert, this is the bullshit that happens all the
time in this city. They'll be at the White House,
go some people are saying and I love it when
they go, oh, can you name them? Who's some people?
What they say you should not see. That's why. That's
the reason why now see the Robert, you know, I

(48:36):
guess because you love your guns. These black Republicans love
to come on when you guest hosts because they not
gonna bring their asses on here when I'm here, Because
the bottom line is they line and what they're not
used to. They're not used to first of all, journalists
who actually read stuff, who can also recite it to
him in real time. Well, this was by the way

(48:58):
of saying, don't ask me no damn question about what's
in the bill when there's nothing in the bill. And
so when she's like, it's a host of cousin, he's like,
what she could even answer it. So even if she
didn't do her job by say, McCarthy, show us a
copy of your bill so we can actually know what
you're proposing cutting.

Speaker 21 (49:20):
Well, you know, this is part of the problem with
the way Republicans have tried to paint Joe Biden of
the course of the last couple of years. By having
this ideal sleepy Joe that you know, dementia, Joe's guy
who's barely standing up, can barely get by. They forget
that Joe Biden is still sharp and still much smarter
than many of them, and because of that, he can
go to toe with many of these reporters.

Speaker 20 (49:38):
And I think this is one of the things.

Speaker 21 (49:40):
The White House Comms teams needs to be to get
together on because quite frankly, we're talking about this right here,
how many other networks are talking about this from today,
how many surrogates from the Biden administration are, from the
Biden campaign team, are putting out talking points on this
sharing the clip online. How what you In the last

(50:01):
week or so, we have Joe Biden proposing a very
reasonable budget, trying to maintain our debt rady across the world.
At the same time you got Donald Trump getting getting convicted,
he got George Santos getting arrested, and we find out
about Clarence Thompson Sugar Daddy. The White House needs to
have a better way of carrying their message forward to

(50:21):
the American people.

Speaker 20 (50:22):
You shouldn't have to go look for the message. There's
gould be somebody.

Speaker 21 (50:24):
From the White House right here on this show right
now talking about this moment.

Speaker 20 (50:28):
And unless they can do that, they're going to continue
to see.

Speaker 21 (50:30):
Biden polling in the mid thirties is not because of
the actions of the administration, because of the inability of
them to carry that message to the American people and
enter into the cultural zeitgeist in order to have some
residents around it to boost the administration's poll numbers.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Scott, he don't even say he's just like he was saying,
I'm not trying to be a wise guy. No, he
select that thing steing. In fact, you know what, if
there's somebody who Biden should be watching every night, Scott.
I think President Biden, ever before he does a news conference,

(51:05):
should watch this. Let's see what I can get it.

Speaker 20 (51:12):
Yeah, what what is mister president?

Speaker 13 (51:14):
Yeah what.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Mister big bier, Mississippi Harald sit down?

Speaker 34 (51:28):
Yeah, missus Feton Carlton Macker, Christian Women's News. Mister President,
since you've become president, you've been seen and photographed on
the arms of white women. Oh quite frankly, sir, you've
been caughting an off lord white women. Will this continue.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
As long as I can keep it up? Scott, he's
got to say I'm sick of this shit. I ain't
dealing with his nonsense. And you gotta just go ahead
and do that when you can get asked stupid stuff.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
The greatest. Let's not forget the Richard Price was the greatest.
He just proved it there. You know, every week I'm
on some.

Speaker 12 (52:27):
Network defending Joe Biden and the Republican narrative political narrative
is that he's old, he's slow, he's not sharp, he's
got all these gas and if you heard his presentation today,
and I want to say, Halliwi or wherever he was
in Ohio somewhere I can't remember. He gave a speech

(52:47):
at a press conference this clip that you just ran
where he's breaking down the budget. This is an extremely
intelligent man with a lot of wisdom, a lot of experience.

Speaker 18 (52:58):
And sure he's eighty years old or maybe eighty two
when he wins again, but I got to tell you,
I'll take Joe Biden's wisdom and experience and his knowledge
and experience of the budget as well as international affairs.

Speaker 12 (53:12):
And all that he's done for this country over whatever
the Republican Party has to offer, and that's just simply
not much compared to him.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
He's a human decently a humanly decent man.

Speaker 18 (53:25):
He's super smart, still sharp, and he just showed you
in that Clippy show as well as his speech.

Speaker 12 (53:32):
In press conference today that he's sharp as ever. I mean,
I have gas when I present him.

Speaker 18 (53:37):
I'm sixty years old, so I don't think it makes
a difference with you eighty or sixty. But he's an
incredibly competent president, gets a lot done, and regardless of
what the Republicans through at him, his excellence manifests itself
every day.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
And so that's why he's going to get re elected again.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I think, oh, well, that's nice. But I don't have
no gaffs. So I mean that's I.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Mean, maybe you put time on your own show.

Speaker 20 (54:06):
What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you might want
to prepare more. You might you might want to pull You.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Missed your cue about five shows.

Speaker 20 (54:18):
You never said you may.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You may want to put a little extra work in.

Speaker 20 (54:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
And remember I set the cues. See see, don't let
me have to remind you who your daddy is.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
All right, well, maybe it was a couple of years ago.
Maybe it was a couple of.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Years I remember alf was your dad in about That's right,
that's right. So don't don't don't don't get don't dog
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Black Americans of the twentieth century.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
His work literally.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
Changed the work. Among other things, he played a major
role in creating the United Nations. He was the first
African American and first person of color to win the
Nobel Peace brud and yet today he is hardly a
household name.

Speaker 20 (57:17):
We're talking, of course about Ralph J.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
Bunch, a new book refers to him as the absolutely
indispensable man.

Speaker 8 (57:25):
His lifelong interest and passion in racial justice, specifically in
the form of colonialism, and he saw his work as
an activist an advocate for the black community here in
the United States as just the other side of the
coin of his work trying to roll back European Empire

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and Africa.

Speaker 9 (57:47):
Author cal Rastilla will join us to share his incredible story.

Speaker 20 (57:53):
That's on the next Black Table here on the Black
Star Network.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
This is what's going on, everybody.

Speaker 16 (58:01):
It's your boy, Macil it was up yardis your boy
Jacob Latimore. And you're not watching Roland Martin right now.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Welcome back to Roland Martin fell to the Black Starting Network.
And you know what, Scott, since you got a little
extra at the last segment there, Orlando Jones hit me
up and said, remind Scott of what I said in
the movie Biker Boys.

Speaker 36 (58:44):
Utter than a standing your ass around, shut down on
your knees, about that ass down.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
That's for all you cap of Scott, all right, you
always got the about ie when you're in the presence
of an alpha. Scott, see I see, I told you
leave me alone. What what you gotta say?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Sue you for that one. I'm just telling you, I'm
gonna sue you. I'm gonna sing you the lawsuit before
I sue you. Okay, that's right. And I'm ana suit
the Alphas and you and the Rowan Martin on Filtered Show.
That's right.

Speaker 12 (59:21):
I'm coming for you.

Speaker 25 (59:22):
Rowan.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
You're done for you? You done?

Speaker 3 (59:26):
You done?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, I'm done. I got a whole bunch of alphas
to a handle on. I got a whole bunch of
apples handle I got a bunch of alphas handle that. Okay,
what you said, take it back?

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Take it back?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm sorry? Oh yeah, I thought you said running back?

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Boom, take it back.

Speaker 36 (59:44):
Stand in your ass around, sit down on your knees,
a badad ass down.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
All right, you want to run it back. That's how
we do it. That's how we do all right. Enough
of that, all right, let's get to y'all. A couple
of weeks ago, the African American Mayor Associations, they were
in town for their national conference. My Alpha brother, Mayor

(01:00:14):
of Arkansas, Scott is the outgoing president in Alpha. Just
letting you know. In fact, there was so many Alpha
mayors at the conference. There could have been a fraternity meeting.
But the new mayor, the new head of the organization,
she's out of Mount Vernon, New York, Mayor Sean Patterson Howard.
She's going to be leading the ten year old organization

(01:00:35):
one hundred twenty seven members. Sean, glad to have you
on the show, Mayor. How you doing good to be here?

Speaker 37 (01:00:41):
And I am a proud member of Delta Sigma Theta Incorporated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
It's all good, you know, Alpha's all you good, daddy,
don't worry about it's good. It's good, all right. So listen,
let's get let's get right to it. So talk about
what is your vision, what is your plan for because
we see right now four largest cities in the cities
in the country African American mayor Chicago, New York, Los Angeles,
in Houston, we have, of course mayors, a black mayor

(01:01:08):
in Atlanta, mayor in Little Rock, in Birmingham, and just
a different places. So we are seeing how black political
power is increasing. And so what is your goal with
these mayors?

Speaker 37 (01:01:20):
I mean, my goal with these mayors is to make
sure that we're addressing issues that are critical to black communities.
Urban communities, and at the top of the list, dealing
with climate change, dealing with public safety and community revitalization,
looking at health, looking.

Speaker 33 (01:01:38):
At generational wealth.

Speaker 37 (01:01:40):
These are the things that are at the top of
my priority list, and the way that we would accomplish
these things is definitely partnering with national organizations. I'm excited
that we are going to be doing some work with
the Congressional Black Caucus. We are partnering with the Gates Foundation,
and we're doing work around wealth building and developing generational

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wealth where we're working with the National Association of Real
Estate Brokers, you know, in that same area and making
sure that properties in our communities that we are retaining
them as families and communities and ensuring the future strength
economically of our communities. Looking at organizations like the NAACP
and the Urban League, you know, how are we really partnering,

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How are we partnering on a national level. How are
we aligning our vision and our focus so that we
stop working in silos, because oftentimes we're working in silos.

Speaker 33 (01:02:37):
We want to focus also, you know, on voting rights.

Speaker 37 (01:02:39):
That's very, very important because if we lose the power
of the vote and they continue to do all of
this redistrict thing. It just dilutes our power and of
course public safety, because we want to make sure that
the blood stops running down the streets in the neighborhood
in our communities because of unnecessary gun violence, oftentimes powered

(01:03:00):
by this very illegal gun market. So those are some
of the things that we're definitely looking at. And you know,
when you have national organizations that you can work with,
then it really just becomes a force multiplier. We have
a twenty twenty four presidential election coming up, and so
we have to be very serious, very focused, and very
intentional intentional about how we're moving.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
One of the things that mayors always talk about, and
I'm always trying to explain to people on this show
how power works, is that when the federal government is
sending money, typically they're sending that money in block grants
to the states. Well, here's part of the problem. In
many of these states where we have black mayors, you've
got Republican governors and they're not being sending that money

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to the states. And so one of the things that
black mayors the AAMA has been demanding or pushing the
body Hairris administration is to bypass the states and send
the money directly to the cities if they want to
impact the peoplesolutely.

Speaker 37 (01:04:00):
That's what we did with American Rescue Plan money. We
sat with members of the Biden Harrison administration and we
just to the very point that you made if you
send it to the governors, it's not gonna come here.
One of the points Houston and Dallas were hit hard
by you know, climate incidents a few years ago, and
Texas received a whole bunch of money. None of that

(01:04:23):
money made it to Houston in Dallas, right, And those
are largely black, black cities led by black mayors, And
so we know that if the moneys continue just to
go to the governors, you're not going to see that
money in the communities. And mayors are the ones that
have to answer for the challenges in the community. They're
the ones who can get the money directly to the

(01:04:44):
needs that will impact their residents the most. And so
getting money stuck at the state level is not good. Look,
I'm in New York and we have a democratic governor.
But I feel as a mayor that I still know
how my community needs to spend their money, and I
definitely still advocate even in communities and states where there

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are democratic governors that the money still goes to mayors.

Speaker 33 (01:05:09):
Mayors are boots on the ground. We are the first
line of government.

Speaker 37 (01:05:13):
We are the ones who have to answer to the
people the most, and they have access to us, and
so we should definitely have the leading say in how
moneies that are allocated by the federal government for our
communities are spent.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
All right, questions from our panel, Rebecca, your first, what's
your question for Mayor Sean? Thank you, Mayor.

Speaker 19 (01:05:35):
There's a growing narrative that crime is on an uptick
in the country and that is centered around urban areas.

Speaker 33 (01:05:42):
And largely in cities.

Speaker 19 (01:05:45):
What types of support do our mayors need in order
to make sure that we're stemming the increase in crime.
And that's me also assuming that, yes, there is an
increase in crime that's happening in our cities all across
the country.

Speaker 37 (01:06:00):
And like you said, that's assuming that there is an
increase in crime. Actually, in a lot of our urban communities,
we're seeing a decrease in violent crime.

Speaker 33 (01:06:09):
Unfortunately, what we see is over reporting of crime.

Speaker 37 (01:06:13):
And even the Post, which is not necessarily a friend,
The New York Post is not necessarily a Friend of
Urban Communities. They spoke about and The Times spoke about
how there is a lot of over reporting of crime
and so there's about a four hundred percent increase in
reporting of crime. We saw four homicides in my community

(01:06:34):
last year. They were all solved. We usually see anywhere
between six and ten, so that is a decrease.

Speaker 33 (01:06:41):
This year we've seen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Three so far.

Speaker 37 (01:06:44):
The big challenge is that they're younger people, and so
we have to definitely deal with the narrative that's being pushed,
but then there is real crime that is happening, and
so partnering with the African American Mayors, the National League
of Cities, working with organizations like Cities United that really
focuses on understanding that violence is a public health issue

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and so needing people like violence interrupters. So we have
violence interrupters in our community. We call them SNUG and
these are people who were justice involved who are now
out on the streets as outreach workers connecting with those
who are the most violent or potentially the most violent
in our community to mentor them, to provide them with

(01:07:29):
case management. It's a real holistic view and holistic approach
to reducing crime in our communities, education jobs, job training,
living wage jobs, working with them around mental health issues.

Speaker 33 (01:07:42):
A lot of these young.

Speaker 37 (01:07:43):
People on the streets who are involved in criminal activities
also experience a lot of trauma, and so we know
that policing by itself has never deterred crime and stopped
crime in communities, and so we definitely have to take
a comprehensive approach to violence in our communities, very very
similar to what we did with COVID. When COVID came,

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everyone stopped what they were doing. They really focused and
you had everyone from DPWN police to hospitals, to schools
to neighborhood associations really focusing on how to keep our
communities healthy.

Speaker 33 (01:08:17):
Well, that's the same thing that we have to do.

Speaker 37 (01:08:19):
Neighborhood watchers have to come back again, but we have
to train them and educate them. We're bringing back in
Mount Vernon the peacekeepers. We've spoken to the church and
some of the guys in the neighborhood and say, look,
you know this has to be done for us by us.
Remember Fooboo back in the day, and so if we
don't want overpleacing of our communities, then we have to

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also get out here and walk the streets and not
be afraid to engage the young men and women in
our communities. We have to be serious about job training
and education so that they can have living wage jobs.
Because you can help people walk away from a life
of crime, but if they don't have any way to
take care of themselves and their families, they're going to
find themselves back in street level activity.

Speaker 33 (01:09:00):
So it has to be much more.

Speaker 37 (01:09:03):
And as Eric Adams always says, Mayor Adams, he says,
we have to address the issues upstream.

Speaker 33 (01:09:08):
We have to deal with the drivers of violence.

Speaker 37 (01:09:10):
And there are very many drivers of violence, and we
have to address them one by one.

Speaker 33 (01:09:15):
And that's some of the.

Speaker 37 (01:09:16):
Partnerships that we're really focusing on and bringing those resources
to our mayors.

Speaker 21 (01:09:24):
Robert and kind of piggybacking on Rebecca's point, and thank
you so for joining us today. We've seen the continuous
attacks on black maris around the country from police unions,
from fraternal orders and police, particularly in black female mayors.
We saw Mayor Lightfoot and the issue she had in Chicago,
Mayor Bottoms in Atlanta, the issues she had after the

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Charrette Brooks killing killing.

Speaker 20 (01:09:48):
What can be done to.

Speaker 21 (01:09:49):
Better bridge the gap between law enforcement and the and
the efforts at criminal justice reform. The many black mayors
try the institute nationwide because the scenes that we end
up in this running sir, of police officers not wanting
to fight crime. Whenever you try to police reform. As
a result, crime ticks up, the community gets angry, you replete,

(01:10:10):
replaced do politicians who are trying to push law enforcement reform,
and we end up in the same spot again and again.
What can be done to bridge that gap?

Speaker 37 (01:10:17):
Look, I mean it's hard conversations here in the city
of Mount Vernon. I'm up right now for a re
election in June. Definitely having a lot of challenges with
my PBA. New York was definitely a criminal justice reform state,
no more stop and frisk, changing in bail reform and
discovery laws, and so we saw some of the same

(01:10:41):
things we saw kind of the blue flu, not necessarily
with people not coming to work, but not writing tickets
and doing things of that nature. Also, in a lot
of urban areas like my community, we're behind and we
pay our police officers less, and so when you're trying
to negotiate contracts and things of that nature. So anytime

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there's a shooting or there's a homicide, it's like, well,
because we don't have enough police, the laws are two
week the mayors don't care about public safety. We absolutely
care about public safety, but we want to just make
sure that the rules and the way that we're dispensing
justice are equitable. And you made the right point. When
community see an uptick in violence, they're almost ready to

(01:11:23):
give up all of the rights that we've gained around
criminal justice reform to make sure that the neighborhoods are safe.

Speaker 33 (01:11:30):
And that's part of the game. That's part of.

Speaker 37 (01:11:32):
The constant drumbeat of the communities are not safe. And
so when you're also looking at twenty four hour news
cycles and people are also looking at social media, if
a shooting happens in Atlanta, then people in Mount Vernon
are feeling it. They're like, there's just a constant feeling
of unsafety. It doesn't have to even be violence happening

(01:11:53):
in your community. They just look at it happening in
any urban area and they're feeling it. I have parents
who are saying, we need SROs in the school. While
we support SROs in the school, right now, we don't
have it in our budget, we don't have it available.
But when there was the shooting in a Uvaldi, the
news called us and they were on the news every

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morning saying, well, we need to know how many school
safety officers you're going to put in the schools because
parents are afraid that the school is going to be
shot up tomorrow. So there is a lot of pressure
to respond and to give much more funding to public safety,
especially in urban communities that don't necessarily have the money.

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And so Mayor to Shara Jones and I always say
that our communities, our cities are what we call the
cop shop. Other communities around us who can afford to
pay more come to our community to get the well
trained officers they're transferring out of our communities at a
higher rate. And then that also becomes part of the
narrative that you're allowing your cops to transfer that you

(01:12:57):
don't care about policing, you don't care about public say safety,
and it is definitely an attack on black women.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Mayors Scott got Scott and the Marya got sixty seconds
left in the segment, Scott.

Speaker 12 (01:13:09):
Go yeah, and man, Mayor, I grew with everything you
said about the crime issue is solving it, but most
of our urban centers, bigger, small.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
Still have a crime problem. Absolutely, the very expensive. It's
very expensive to solve this problem. Because I grew everything said,
how do you get more money in.

Speaker 18 (01:13:27):
Your budgets from the state to solve that problem?

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Because to me, that answers a lot of questions and
you get the funding for it.

Speaker 37 (01:13:36):
Well, we are definitely lobbying our state officials and I'm excited.

Speaker 33 (01:13:41):
I'm encouraged by.

Speaker 37 (01:13:42):
The Safer Communities Act that is put moving forward a
lot more money on the federal government, and so we're
working to make sure that our urban communities are receiving
the technical assistance. And when we're talking about justice forty,
our communities are under resourced and underserved and we need
our fair share of that money.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
All right, then, UH, Mayor Shawan, we Shirley appreciate it.
Thank you so very much for joining us, UH and
we'll see you soon.

Speaker 33 (01:14:09):
Take care. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
All right, Thanks a bunch UH folks. Coming up next,
we're gonna talk with d Barnes about her new show
on the black Star Network. But before we go, Scott,
I got one more message for you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
You keep campaigning for this ass whooping, you're gonna get elected.
Oh you're in the heresh you didn hears you should
run that again.

Speaker 13 (01:14:39):
I didn't hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Oh yeah, Oh no, I'm gonna run that again. Here
we go.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
You keep campaigning for this ass whooping, you're gonna get elected.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
That also was Orlando Jones will double take. I'll be
right back.

Speaker 34 (01:14:56):
I like that.

Speaker 25 (01:15:01):
On a Next, A Balance Life with me, Doctor Jackie.
What does it mean to actually have balance in your life?

Speaker 14 (01:15:06):
Why is it important?

Speaker 25 (01:15:07):
And how do you get there?

Speaker 33 (01:15:09):
A masterclass on the art of balance.

Speaker 25 (01:15:10):
It could change your life.

Speaker 38 (01:15:11):
Find the harmony of your life? And so what beat
can you maintain at a good pace? What cadence can
keep you running that marathon? Because we know we're going
to have, you know, high levels, we're going to have
low levels. But where can you find that flow, that
harmonious paste.

Speaker 25 (01:15:33):
That's all Next on a Balanced Life, One Black Star Network.

Speaker 35 (01:15:39):
Next on the Frequency with me he Barnes, We're going
to talk to Leslie cr aka big Less to talk
about her incredible career as a dancer, choreographer and vday
of Rahap City.

Speaker 31 (01:15:51):
Magic Johnson was there, so half the NBA was that demand.

Speaker 14 (01:15:54):
The supermodel for all the supermodels for there every day
after like it was a whole.

Speaker 7 (01:15:58):
Whool a who who right here on the frequency of
the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Hey, I'm on that Jack Brock TV.

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
Does matter?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Dang it? Hey, what's up y'adish?

Speaker 16 (01:16:14):
Your boy Jacob Latimore and you're now watching Roland Martin
right now, stay woke.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
I'll pay attention and you might learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
For Scott Bolden right there, all right, pay attention, you
might learn something Scott. All right, folks, my next guest
pioneer in hip hop, host of the show years ago
that was all the rage and hip hop, and then
all of a sudden she was a journalist and then
many people they know her story. When it came to

(01:16:59):
her her and doctor Dre and uh what she was,
she was viciously beaten.

Speaker 38 (01:17:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
She dropped off the radarf for quite some time. But
now she's back and has a show called her frequency
on the Black Studtern Network. What's up? D Barnes? How
you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:17:14):
What's up? Rowland? You look at sharp right there with
the white fedora.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
I figured I figured I figured would do something. This
is one of the this is one of the bringings.
George Lopez gave me at his dog tournament a couple
of years ago. So you know, I said, I figured,
I make Scott bolderok I make Scott bolder and little
jealous because he mad.

Speaker 33 (01:17:32):
Why are you on Scott? Why are you on Scott?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
So bad?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Because he a little kappa and and you know he jealous?
He jealous?

Speaker 10 (01:17:39):
Oh okay, all right, all right, he's jealousy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Turn turns Scott back up. Come on, he over there
running by saying something I don't know what Dey's saying.

Speaker 10 (01:17:47):
Defend yourself, Scott, come on, turn them audio up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Oh no, you did that, Roland, Scott, your silly ass
on mute? Seeing you a cap?

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
No, I said, do you think you're so pretty? You
be that pretty because you're not a cap. So just
keep it moving, keep the show moving.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
Wow, this is gentleman beef, This is gentleman beer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
No, it's only it's only one. No, it's only one
gentleman as a gentleman and as a child. Okay, wow,
and trust me, I tower over Scott. We'll leave that loan,
all right. D uh so, uh so, let's let's get
get right into it. Uh So, for folks who don't
know your history, what you what you used to do

(01:18:30):
in media, just to share with the folks who are watching.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Uh.

Speaker 39 (01:18:35):
You know, used to be an m C with a
group called Body and Soul on the label Delicious Vionyl.
You might have heard a tone loak Young MC deaf,
Jeff the brand new Heavi's Far Side, a lot of
j Dilla product uh, you know productions. And then from
there I went on to host a show called Pump
It Up, which was similar to your MTV raps Rap City,

(01:19:00):
and we were on the Fox network at the time.

Speaker 10 (01:19:02):
This is the the early you know, late eighties, early nineties.

Speaker 39 (01:19:07):
And from there, you know, I interviewed so many of
your favorite hip hop artists all through the you know,
the nineties.

Speaker 10 (01:19:15):
The show was on for about three years, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Then you you were also what writing for publications and
you do you still in the game, but then all
of a sudden, you disappear from media.

Speaker 10 (01:19:31):
Definitely disappeared, Definitely disappear from media.

Speaker 39 (01:19:34):
I mean, people know the story of the incident that
I had with Doctor J which had a you know,
very looming effect over myself my career, and you know,
it's been a long struggle to get back here. And
you came to me with this opportunity, which you know,
at first I hesitated because when we were talking to Angela.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Hesitate, you said, no, I was like, what is wrong
with her?

Speaker 39 (01:20:05):
Well, you know, I had a lot of people in
this industry and come at me and offer me things,
and you know, things didn't work out, and like I
was saying, it was just I felt a little, you know,
like maybe I was a little jaded with.

Speaker 10 (01:20:17):
The industry, so to speak.

Speaker 39 (01:20:18):
And I had this focus that I was, you know,
I was focused on this one thing, and you helped
me realize that, you know, I need to reel it
in and reset, reboot. And so you came to me
with this opportunity to do this show, and I'm like, okay,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
So let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
So so let me tell y'all what I said to D.
I said, listen, a lot of people called me, and
I said, uh, I mean, one of my gifts is
getting people unstuck. Sometimes a lot of people sort of
just sort of stuck where they are. They don't actually
see the whole chess board, they don't see things the
same way, and so uh and so initially D said,

(01:20:57):
now I'm just gonna focus on trying to get my
book in my documentary. And I was like, d listen,
those are long term projects that take two, three, four
or five years or even longer. And so so I
was trying to figure out what to say to her
that that that would make it click. And so God
gave me this one. I said, Dan, let me explain
to you. You like somebody who's trying to swim from

(01:21:22):
this island to that island way over there, and my
ass in a boat and I roll up on you,
and you like, nah, no, I'm good, I'm gonna swim it.
And I'm like, I want to get your ass in
this boat to get over to that island a little faster.
And that's what caused her to go, dang.

Speaker 33 (01:21:43):
You right, that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:21:46):
That's because I was drowning.

Speaker 14 (01:21:49):
I was drowning.

Speaker 10 (01:21:50):
And when you when you were like, you're.

Speaker 39 (01:21:51):
Gonna get in this boat, and I was like, you
know what, you might be right, let's get in this boat. No,
but no, you did come to me with good knowledge
about getting people unblocked, not stuff you said. You said unblocked,
And I felt that that was happening to me for
years in industry. That I was being blocked, whether it

(01:22:12):
was me or rather it was you know, from the industry,
but you know, speaking to you and speaking to you know,
doctor Jackie Martin, shout out to her.

Speaker 10 (01:22:22):
She helped me get balanced.

Speaker 39 (01:22:23):
And if you guys you know are fans of the
Blackstar Network, I know you watch your show of Balanced Life,
and speaking to both of you helped me get balanced
and refocus. And then it was I was able to start,
you know, thinking about what I wanted to do with
this platform you were offering me, and it definitely was something.

Speaker 10 (01:22:41):
About uplifting women. That was my focus.

Speaker 39 (01:22:44):
I wanted to uplift women. I want to pass the
night to women that haven't been heard. I want to
speak to you know, my elders. I want to speak
to my peers.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
I want to speak to the younger generation, you know,
issues of concern that deal with women. That that's like
my main my main goal. Like my first US right
there was Alicia Garza. You know what I mean. I
want to focus on books because you see books of
being banned left and right. So I really want to
work with a lot of women you know who work
on you know, wright books. And then you see, ah,

(01:23:14):
there goes big less. Also, you know, being that it's.

Speaker 39 (01:23:16):
The fiftieth anniversary of hip hop, I gotta throw some
hip hop in there. And I really want to talk
to a lot of the legends in the game, and
a lot of the ones that have not been heard,
you know what I mean, the ones you don't think of,
a lot of the matriarchs, a lot of the pioneers,
the ogs.

Speaker 10 (01:23:32):
So that's my focus. That's what I'm working on, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 39 (01:23:36):
The show is basically UH an intersection of empowerment and acknowledgment,
you know what I'm saying in a safe space.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
And so the thing that and again for the people
who are watching UH, we understand I've never personally met
the I follow her social media. I saw her story,
and I say, you know what I say, I think
this could be interesting because I mean, you've had to
You've had to deal UH with look being being being homeless,

(01:24:07):
You've had to deal with UH again, as you said,
being black ball, UH jobless, A lot of people again
who who promised things and didn't didn't follow through UH.
And one of the things and and I got a
shout before we go to break, we'll come back. I
got a shout out, Fab five, Freddy and Sway because
what happened was, so what happened was when I had

(01:24:30):
this idea. So I called Fab five, Freddy, I called Sway,
I called Dreamhampton, I called I called Kevin Powell because
I was luck because just everybody understand. So I went
through these Twitter Instagram feed to look for people who
follow her who I knew, and so I was like.

Speaker 39 (01:24:54):
You picked people that you picked key people because those
people have always supported me and have always counseled me
and helped me in ways that I can't even describe.

Speaker 10 (01:25:04):
So you picked some key people. You pick some good
people that you were able to talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Right, So I picked them and so we talked to
him and they were like, yo, roll, this is a
great idea and this could be awesome. Fab five Freddy
loved it. And then when D said, nah, I'm good,
I'm gonna keep doing this, see, I was like er.
So then I called I hit all four of them back.
Fab five was like what And so then a little
bit later he hit me up and he was like yo,

(01:25:32):
he said I He said, I how that D. I
think she's straight?

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Now? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
And so he uh, so before we go to break,
just share for folks what happened when he was like, dig, Now,
you know, Fam.

Speaker 14 (01:25:47):
Five is a great brother.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:25:49):
He's one of the brothers that I can in the industry.

Speaker 39 (01:25:51):
Is my hip hop brother for life, that I can
call up and talk to you and he'll give me
the real, the straight up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:25:57):
And it's just like you said, we hadn't met, so
I really didn't know you. So as you were vetting me,
I was vetting you too. Brother. I was like, well,
how is Roland?

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
How is he?

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:26:08):
So it's weird because we haven't met, But I feel
like I know you, you know what I mean. And
you got a good review. You got a good review,
you got a great review.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
I'm well, I wasn't worried about that. I wasn't worried
about that. I knew it wasn't That's why you're in.
I knew we were gonna I knew what we could do.
That's one of the reasons why again, you know, creating
the platform is important because to be able to do
different things in different voices. Hold on one second, I
gotta go to break pay some bills. We come back,
my panel, got some questions for you. We're talking with

(01:26:35):
de Barnes. She's host of the new show on the
Black Start Network, the new weekly show. But it's a
weekly now, but we're gonna move you two or three
times a week. But if it, hopefully in about three months,
she would be actually daily. So the plans for her
have a daily show here on the Black Start Network.
It will be the third daily show that we have.
And so we'll chat with her next right here on

(01:26:56):
Rolling Unfiltered back in the moment.

Speaker 40 (01:27:04):
On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's
well coach. Nurses are the backbone of the healthcare industry,
and yet only seven percent of them are black. What's
the reason for that low number, Well, a lack of
opportunities and growth in their profession. Joining us on the

(01:27:24):
next Get Wealthy is meeting Barnanilla. She's going to be
sharing exactly what nurses need to do and what approach
they need to take to take ownership of their success.

Speaker 41 (01:27:36):
So the Blackness Collaborative really spawn from a place and
a desire to create opportunities to uplift each other, those
of us in a profession to also look and reach
back and crept and create pipelines and opportunities for other
nurses like us.

Speaker 33 (01:27:51):
That's right here on Get Wealthy only on Black Star.

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
Network, Live Star Network.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
A real revolution there right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I thank you for being the voice of Black Americs, a.

Speaker 7 (01:28:08):
Moment that we have.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 14 (01:28:11):
The video looks phenomenal is.

Speaker 9 (01:28:13):
Between Black Star Network and Black owned media and something
like seeing.

Speaker 15 (01:28:18):
In you can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home.

Speaker 14 (01:28:26):
It dig.

Speaker 20 (01:28:30):
Everybody's friend.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Hamy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
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Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
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(01:29:21):
five nine six two two two two. All right, folks,
back to our conversation with d Barnes, hosts of the
show The Frequency right here on the Black Star Network,
debut last Thursday. New episodes will drop every single Thursday,
so glad to have her here. D. I talk about
one of the things that I one of the things

(01:29:42):
that I said to you, And this really was important
because because it was sort of like, how again, as
somebody from the outside who's following you, it was asked,
lift it was as if your story stopped with the
beating with doctor dre and and and I said, from

(01:30:05):
my perspective, that cannot that cannot be the end of
your story. I said. The opportunity here is to be
able to have a platform, to be able to talk
about issues, talk about things that you've gone through, things
that you've endured, how you can empower others that now
that writes new chapters and and can you talk about

(01:30:28):
why that's also important because again, the people people google you,
like literally all of the things you were doing and
all you involved in everything just literally stopped after that.

Speaker 39 (01:30:44):
I mean, one of the things you did point out
about you know, speaking from my perspective and trying to
change my You were saying that it was I had
a narrow view and I only wanted to be a
cover hip hop.

Speaker 33 (01:30:56):
But that wasn't true.

Speaker 39 (01:30:58):
But you were absolutely right in the fact that I
could broaden my view and broaden the conversation about the
things that I went through.

Speaker 10 (01:31:05):
And I think that one of the things that people love,
you know, tuning into.

Speaker 15 (01:31:10):
Is that.

Speaker 39 (01:31:12):
I want to, like, I want to invoke empathy so
you can relate to what was happening. So having the
experience of being homeless, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:31:20):
I hope to talk to some advocates about that, having
the experience.

Speaker 39 (01:31:24):
Of you know, being job bless and the struggles in
the industry a lot of women in this industry and
the entertainment industry, is what I mean, and what they
go through, you know what I mean. Like right now,
I have a few friends that are writers and they're
dealing with the writers strike right now, So I want
to talk to them and get their perspective on, you know,
how they're dealing with that.

Speaker 10 (01:31:44):
So I think, you know that the advice that you've
given me, and you know, thank you so much for
giving me.

Speaker 39 (01:31:51):
This opportunity to have this platform so that I can
reach you know, more people and talk about some interesting
things and we're going to have some explosive conversation.

Speaker 10 (01:32:00):
I mean that that's really really my focus, my goal.
I want to have explosive conversation.

Speaker 39 (01:32:06):
Like I was talking about my favorite you know, poetry
from Sonya Sanchez.

Speaker 10 (01:32:10):
The Homegirls and hand Grenades, That's what it's about.

Speaker 39 (01:32:13):
I want to have that conversation in a safe space
and you know, perhaps maybe help people, you know, with
the conversation to elevate them and to lift them up.
You know, we get a lot of low vibrational things
happening in the world. You know, you just show that
the young sister that's missing, and that really that really
hurt me for just that that five seconds, because I'm

(01:32:34):
thinking about, you know, my little nieces and nephews, you
know what I mean. So there's so much negativity in
the world, and I really want to just put something
out there that's positive. And I hope people tune in,
and I hope they you know, they get they get
into it. They get they got to tune in, They
got to tune in. I'm trying to raise the vibration
of the conversation, you know, and evoke empathy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Well, that's one of the reasons why you have that
segment because frankly, it's a lot of black folks who
are missed and never get talked about, never get reported,
and so we do it every single day. Let's go
to our questions, Rebecca, your question for de barnes.

Speaker 6 (01:33:09):
D.

Speaker 33 (01:33:09):
Thank you so much for joining us tonight.

Speaker 19 (01:33:11):
So there is a lot of former hip hop artists
who are now transitioning into content creation, and so a
lot of us listen to them, like a lot of
us devoured the complex list that was listening the most
influential hip hop artists who are now podcasters and other contents.
So you have Wallow and Gilly and Joe Budden and

(01:33:33):
Matt Hopfa and Noriega. So, based upon with how you're
formatting your show, what will set you apart from some
of the other folks in the game.

Speaker 39 (01:33:43):
Well, just the fact that you just name a lot
of men in particular. I don't think enough women in
hip hop get that platform. I don't think that they're
heard at all. And that's one of my main focuses
and goal is to pass my you know, women in
hip hop, women in amusing industry, women in entertainment, you know,
pass the mic to them and have them tell and
share their stories and their struggles, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:34:05):
So because we can all relate to that.

Speaker 39 (01:34:06):
But that's how I'm going to stand out from everybody
else because the lot of the focus is on the men,
and then when we do talk to the women, there's
only a few of them, you know, So I want
to make sure we talk to as many people as
I possibly can. And it's not that I'm not going
to have men on the show. I just want to
focus on the women because I feel like we're the

(01:34:27):
ones that are not heard. That's why I'm rocking, you know,
my Malcolm X right here. We're the most you know, disrespected,
unprotected and neglected, you know, demographic in America, and so
I really want to, you know, bring that focus back
to women and issues that impact them.

Speaker 28 (01:34:46):
Scott the congratulations, I'm sorry, hey, congratulations on your show.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
I don't know your story. Well, I will certainly reviewed or.

Speaker 12 (01:34:59):
Look for it, but I know about success and failure,
and I believe the Lord takes us down before he
brings us up.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
And so with this new venture.

Speaker 12 (01:35:09):
How would you define success for the show and how
did you define success is it in your life?

Speaker 39 (01:35:14):
Generally, success for the show, I believe would be just
having people tune in, just having people pay attention and support,
you know, black owned media. The fact that I was
out for so long in the industry and I'm coming
back on black owned media.

Speaker 10 (01:35:32):
You can't tell me there isn't.

Speaker 39 (01:35:34):
A guy that is so good and you know, it
makes me so crowd and happy to be part of
this network.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:35:41):
This is, this is a historical thing. This is you know,
black owned media, black Star network. Come on, you can't
you can't tell me there isn't a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
God is good all all, all the time, good.

Speaker 14 (01:35:56):
Time, all the time.

Speaker 10 (01:35:57):
God is good.

Speaker 34 (01:35:58):
You know.

Speaker 39 (01:35:58):
So hopefully I have people, you know, tune in when
people start realizing that and you know, I'm back on
the air, saw, I have a lot of people that
used to watch me, and then.

Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
Hopefully bring in new you know, new viewers, and we'll
see We're going to grow from there.

Speaker 39 (01:36:11):
Especially going from a weekly to you know, a couple
of days to a daily show.

Speaker 10 (01:36:16):
This is going to be interesting.

Speaker 39 (01:36:17):
I've never been on the air you know, uh daily,
So this is going to be something, you know, it's
a new adventure, new.

Speaker 10 (01:36:23):
Challenge for me.

Speaker 39 (01:36:24):
And I'm so grateful to you know, Rolling for giving
me this opportunity and for the people that you know
said good things about me to to Roland to help
me get to this point.

Speaker 10 (01:36:36):
Thank you, thank you all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Indeed, Robert Patela what you got.

Speaker 21 (01:36:40):
I want to kind of circle back to what you
were saying about highlighting female and see the gain. Congratulations
and we're all looking forward to the show coming up.
But you know, I think we've kind of had a
race to the bottom with these gen z female and scenes,
with some of the lyrics, some of the visuals, et cetera.
What can be done to highlight some of the fun
positive female m seeds and artists, particularly younger ones who

(01:37:03):
are out there and who exist, but they're not getting
the same attention as you know, Suki Hana or Setsi
Red or you know some of these more vulgar female
rappers who are basically taking misogyny from male rappers that's
wrapping into female packaging and they're making the same white
executive rich as always. How can we highlight positive female
mcs well.

Speaker 39 (01:37:22):
I'm definitely going to be platforming a lot of a
lot of positive female mcs. But I want to circle
back to what you said, because you brought up the
fact that just women are talking like this when there's
plenty of men in talk like that, and I'm sure
I don't know if you've ever brought up the fact
that a lot of the men talk about this and
talk about violence and talk about you know, misogyny. So

(01:37:43):
now that the women have taken that you know, tone,
I don't think that they should be looked down upon.
But what I do want to do is open up
and brought into the other women out there that are
speaking you know, higher higher subject matters, different subject and
they're not being heard, which is why I'm talking about
passing the mic to them. There's so many women, you know,

(01:38:05):
like we never talk about Rhapsody enough, we never talk
about Chika Sarak Bahamadia. There's so many women out there
that it's just not that what you're just you know,
pointing out about that type of music.

Speaker 10 (01:38:19):
And then on that other tip too, I feel like,
you know, women owning their sexuality and their agency.

Speaker 39 (01:38:25):
There's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that,
but there needs to be balance. I do agree with
you that there needs to be balance. But there's nothing
wrong about a woman owning the sexuality.

Speaker 13 (01:38:36):

Speaker 39 (01:38:37):
You might find it vulgar, but there's other you know,
we can talk about old school comedians that were vulgar.
You know, I'm thinking in particular like a Red Fox
or Dolomite. Those are vulgar, you know, things that they said,
you know what I mean, But nobody it's coming down
on them in particular.

Speaker 10 (01:38:55):
So when women do it.

Speaker 39 (01:38:56):
When we have like a Millie Jackson, for instance, who
considered very vulgar, but she still.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
You know, got her.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Many wouldn't considered voger, Milly will tell you I was, I.

Speaker 10 (01:39:10):
Mean, and you know what's wrong with that? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
But I love it because Billy I watched to build
a radio and Millie, we want to say radio station
in Dallas KKDA Radio. She's in Atlanta. I was a
news at the morning anchor there, ed boy and but
Milly didn't care. And Melly still don't care.

Speaker 10 (01:39:27):
Right exactly, you know, I just I understand your point.

Speaker 39 (01:39:31):
I just don't want it to be or we're just
gonna come down on these women because they you know,
this is the image that they're projecting, because this image
was there before hip hop or music you know, was
out there.

Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
This is this is something that's you know, in society
in general.

Speaker 39 (01:39:45):
We just need to have balance, and hopefully on a
platform that like The Frequency, we will have balance because
we will talk to other women on different other subjects.

Speaker 10 (01:39:56):

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
D were appreciated, folks. The Frequency. We'll drop a new
episode every Thursday, Every Thursday right here on rolland Martin
sceme on the Black Start Network. And again right now
it's a weekly, but we'll be building up in hopefully
in ninety days, will be five days a week with
D Barnes. D. We appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, and

(01:40:18):
welcome to Welcome, Welcome to BSN.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
Thank you so much for having me. Thank you Black
Star Network.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
All Right, you gotta go to a break. We come back.
Tech Talk. That's next, Rolling back unfiltered on the Black
Star Network.

Speaker 35 (01:40:40):
Up next on The Frequency with me D Barnes, We're
gonna talk to Leslie c R aka big Less, talk
about her incredible career as a dancer, choreographer and DJ
of rap City.

Speaker 31 (01:40:51):
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Demon the supermodel for all the supermodels were there every
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Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
All right. Many of those are cash poor, meaning they
have limited savings and live paycheck to paycheck. UH. In
those situations, they find it difficult to actually borrow money
from a bank or another financial institution. Solo Funds they
are trying to change that by helping underserved communities access
necessary resources around security and capital and building on it.

(01:42:57):
Solo Funds head at Regulatory and govern and Affairs Kyle
George is here to explain how the first black owned
fintech company can help you gain financial independence. Kyle also
thanks the bunch first of all, who owns who owns
our Solo Funds?

Speaker 42 (01:43:13):
Hey, Roland, it's good to be on Thanks for having us.
Solo Funds is owned by two brothers, two black men,
Travis and Rodney, who identified and need in our communities.
They came from the communities that we sive meeting, communities
that have little to no access to short term capital.
They identified the problem they saw at firsthand among their

(01:43:34):
family and their loved ones, and they came up.

Speaker 10 (01:43:36):
With solution to thrust it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
When did they started twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
We've been around since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
So and so in terms of so walk us through
in terms of what they do. Look, there are people
out there. They understand the concept of pawnshops, of payday lenders,
they undersaid. So the question, so somebody's watching going or
listening going, Okay, how do I access SOLO phones? How
do I reach them? How do I communicate with them?

Speaker 42 (01:44:07):
Yeah, so those are the most familiar things we turn
to when we need short term capital right in our communities.

Speaker 33 (01:44:12):
They're they're they're quite pervasive.

Speaker 42 (01:44:14):
We see a lot of title loan companies, pawn shops,
paydia lenders. And the problem with this is that these
are all predatory solutions that aren't there to benefit us.
What they do, they often put us into a debt
spiral that bike things make us worse. Often when we
started what Solo does. On the other hand, we've taken
a solution that's familiar to our community. We've taken the

(01:44:37):
same solution that we've seen our churches, where we go
to our neighbors to borrow money when when we're in need.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
So Solo is a micro loan.

Speaker 42 (01:44:45):
Community lending platform, and what that means is that connect
borrowers who need short term loans with lenders who might
have a little bit of extra cash this month and
want to help out. So what the borrowers get is
access to small dollar loans that banks on for it touch.
We're talking about amounts as little as twenty bucks up
to five hundred and seventy five, and the lenses in

(01:45:06):
turn get to actually make some money instead of having
their money sit stagnant into inner bank account.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
So we're connecting people with.

Speaker 42 (01:45:13):
Each other, people have money, with people who need money
and help each other out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
So the least amount you can access is twenty bucks
and the maximus five hundred and seventy five is that
per thirty days?

Speaker 6 (01:45:26):
Is that?

Speaker 13 (01:45:26):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
So what about that? Yeah?

Speaker 42 (01:45:29):
So that's a great question. So basically, we allow our
users one loan at a time, so every borrower, I'm sorry,
we allow our borrowers access to one loan at a time.
We don't want them to overextend themselves. We want to
make sure that they aren't getting into a situation where
they can repay. So as soon as they repay that loan,
they eligible will take another one out. So we've built

(01:45:50):
a lot of safeguards into our product to make sure
that our users don't get themselves in trouble. So the
first thing we do when you're new to the platform,
the amounts you can borrow is smaller. You might be
capped let's say one hundred dollars for example, once you
satisfactively pay that back. And to be clear, this is
when I say short term, we're talking up to thirty
five days max. So you can tell me, hey, Roland,

(01:46:11):
I want to borrow twenty bucks for a week. I
need gas money just to get to book this week,
and you can say, yeah, I'll help you out. I'll
do that as soon as I pay you back at
twenty dollars in seven days. I can then turn around
and borrow more money when the need arises, so one
at a time, but you can do it as often
as you wish.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
So now y'all are operating, and but then several states
say hey, let's say just slow down what DC, Connecticut
and others because they didn't understand what's your business model
because you're in a business that is regulated by the government.
But those things have been clear correct.

Speaker 42 (01:46:51):
Yes, So to be clear, we've Last week Friday we
announced resolution on an ability to resume operations in the
District Columbia.

Speaker 10 (01:47:00):
That was really big.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
So that's one of the reasons I came on board
with this company.

Speaker 42 (01:47:04):
I think the biggest problem that that companies like us
face is that regulators don't understand what we do. We're innovative,
we're new, and by definition new is unfamiliar. So what
happened is when they, when places like DC first looked
at our model, their concerns, Wait a minute, what do
you mean don't charge interest? That can't be right. So

(01:47:24):
they asked us to pause operations. We voluntarily create to
pause operations in DC specifically, and we spent the last
few months talking out of them. Hey, look, let me
explain what we do how a different And as a
result of these discussions, we're able to announce our settlement
last Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Questions from the panel, Scott, your first, Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
Good evening, Listen I'm based in DC. Normally, the Attorney
General's Office goes after.

Speaker 12 (01:47:55):
Companies paid their paid their loan companies for charging exorverant interest.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
I didn't know they were going after those who company
and finance companies that don't. That's that's a bit surprising.
But how do you make money at this? How does
anybody make money with this business model?

Speaker 42 (01:48:12):
Yeah, there's several different ways that we make money. So
first of all, borrowers have the option to donate money
to us. We're familiar with that model. We see gofund
me when you you donate to charitable costs. When you
you fund a charitable cost they say, hey, look we
have costs as a platform. Do you mind donating some
money to pay over at So we offer that to

(01:48:34):
ours as well. That's one of the ways we make money.
The other thing we do is we want to make
sure that our lenders have some sort of head against
the against to make sure that the loans paid. So
what they can do. Some lenders are given the option
to ensure the loan if you will. It's not insurance,

(01:48:54):
it's it's just an easy, familiar paradigm. But they can
they can buy a solo text so if the borrow
does not pay it, we will give them credit that
allows them to regain more of their money. So the
company makes money on that as well. So those are
two of the ways that we make money right now,
and as grows the company, we have some other ways
that will come online.

Speaker 19 (01:49:17):
Rebecca, How can someone become a lender and what is
the minimum investment that someone has to do in order
to become a lender.

Speaker 42 (01:49:27):
So anyone in a state that we're operating operating can
sign up. You can download the app. You can go
to solo Funds dot com first of all, that's our website.
You can download the app, and the Android store, the
Apple store were available in those states where we're operational.
Once you sign up, and when you sign up, go
through a lot of similar questions that you will when

(01:49:48):
you sign for bank accounts because we are regulated under
those were sub those same laws as banks know your
customer anti money won't bring it so on. So once
you sign up for it, you have a choice do
I want to lend or do I want to borrow?
And depending on your circumstances, you might do both. Many
of our customers, in fact, do both different points in
their lives. Once you're on the platform, you can lend

(01:50:11):
as many times as you want to as many users
as you want up to you. There's no cap on lending,
but we do ladder up on borrowing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Robert.

Speaker 21 (01:50:24):
It seems like a very very interesting process of nothing else.
How does this affect the credit score, both for the
borrower and for the lender, Whether it be a way
for people to build their credit up by taking out
micro loans and paying them back immediately, or by issuing
out loans.

Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
So this is not yet.

Speaker 42 (01:50:42):
It's a great question because it really exposes a flaw
in our system of credit scores, so.

Speaker 6 (01:50:50):
We do. Unfortunately, did I lose you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Like we keep going and lost your video? I think
we should be the audio go ahead.

Speaker 42 (01:51:02):
Okay, I apologize for that. So we wanted to report
this data to the credit bureaus because this is a
great way for our users to build their credit history. Unfortunately,
the credit bureaus told us that because our loans repaid
in the single installment, in the single payments, not installing payments,
it can be reported. So because of that we can't

(01:51:24):
report to the credit bureaus. But because of that, we
also don't report adverse payments to credit bureaus. If we
can't report the good stuff, we're not going to report
the bad stuff. It's just it's just a fair thing
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
All right. So somebody is watching, they want to contact
Solo Phones. How do they do? So we'll go to
our websites dot com phones dot com. Yes, sir, all right,
we sertly appreciative man, thanks so.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Much, thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (01:51:50):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Thanks up to you, sir, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
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