NY man charged in Jordan Neely Death, 1st SC Black woman Dems Chair, FCC Commissioner on Tegna deal

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In May twelve, twenty twenty three. Coming up on Roland
Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network. The
White Marine who choked Jordan Neeley to death on a
New York City subway train. He turned himself in today
after being indicted and charge of mancheleatter charges. Will give
you the details in that particular case. South Carolina has

(00:23):
made history by naming a black woman as head of the
South Carolina Democratic Party. We'll talk with her about how
she is trying to revive that party after one hundreds
of thousands of black votes failed to vote in the
last election. Time is running out for the FCC to
decide whether or not the Standard General Techno deal should
go through. We will talk with one of the FCC commissioners,

(00:46):
Brendan Carr, who says there should be a commission vote
on that particular deal. Also on today's show, Morris College
has has a class on e sports. Will talk with
the sister who is teaching that class, Christina Grandville. Also
on today's show, we will talk in our Education Metal
segment about a program with NASA to call the Date

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Equity Access Priority Initiative. Will unpack exactly what NASA is
doing to help HBCUs plus two proud uncles yours included,
has a family graduating from Howard University. I actually happened
to run into actor Roger Gunaver Smith and I'll share
with you what he had to say outside of Crammon

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Speaker 2 (01:36):
Let's go.

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It's he's filed the question.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
No, he's.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Former US Marine Daniel Penny turned himself in today in
New York City after he was charged for manslaughter in
the murder of Jordan Neely. Now remember this took place
in New York City on a subway train station. Neely
was arrested for a second degree manslaughter. He appeared in

(02:51):
a Manhattan Criminal Court before Judge Kevin McGrath set bill
at one hundred thousand dollars. Following penny surrender, the attorneys
for the Neely family held a news conference discussing what
they want to happen, and they are fight for justice
what happened in the subway that first of all, what

(03:11):
is this.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
He's gonna come up with more and more things to
make himself look better because that's the only way that
he can escape the consequences of what he did. But
I tell you one thing, he cannot rewrite how the
story ends. The story ends with his arms wrapped around
George's choking him to death.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
And that's what he has to pay for.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
Those are the consequences that we cannot allow in our society.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
We cannot allow that type.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Of aggression on a whim's notice, We cannot allow that
type of judgment, and we cannot allow that type of
crime to happen with our consequences.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now, Penny claims he stepped in in an act of
self defense when Neely threatened him and others aggressively. However,
some witnesses say that Neely was not specifically threatening Penny
when he entered. The reality is he could detain him,
but he literally choked the life out of his body.

(04:06):
Of course, this video has been shown all over the country.
People that was shocked and stunned to literally see Jordan
Kneely die with the hands of Neely. The state's self
deficial law allows people to use deadly force if they
believe their life for someone else's life is an imminent risk.
Pennies do back in court with other hearing on July seventeenth.

(04:28):
Joining us right now is Gregory Joe Say, defense attorney
out of New York. Gregory, how you doing, thank you?

Speaker 8 (04:33):
Thank you for having me today.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
All right, So let's unpack this here because a lot
of people there are different state laws when it comes
to self defense. We are very familiar with staying your
ground law. So walk people through what the law is
there in the state of New York.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
Well, in New York State, there's a portion of the
penal law called justification, and it's the circumstances under which
a person can use physical force or deadly physical force
to repel and attack in defense of themselves or a
third person.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now, the issue that Penny has here, there were other
people who were on this on this train station. Nobody
else choked the life out of Jordan Eely.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
Well, Now this case has moved from the court of
public opinion to the court of law, and as such,
the laws and statutes of New York governing the use
of force are going to apply. And you know, one
of the things that the law indicates is that if
a person reasonably reasonably believes that they are a third

(05:45):
person is in danger of imminent physical harm or imminent
serious physical injury, or imminent death, then the use of
force becomes authorized. You know the keywords, and that's statute
are reasonable and that's an issue that will be sorted

(06:06):
out during the course of an investigation.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
It was a subway car with.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
A number of people aboard to the authorities will be
interviewing individuals, and then those individuals will more than likely
be asked to give testimony in grand jury to determine
whether or not probable cause exists for mister Penny to

(06:30):
be charged with manslaughter. At the opening of your show,
you indicated that mister Penny had been indicted. My information
is that he hasn't been indicted. He's been arrested. And
now under New York state law, the District Attorney's office
has one hundred and eighty days to vote. The grandeury

(06:50):
has that period of time to vote an indictment against him.
So right now the process begins where testimony will be
sought from the people who were present and possibly from
mister Penny to determine whether or not probable cause exists
to actually indict him on that felony charge for which

(07:11):
he was initially arrested today, So as we.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
As we look at this, first of all, they have video.
Prosecutors have video in this case. What they don't have
is one, you don't have a situation where Neely had
a gun, had a knife. And so when you talk
about this imminent physical harm, how if you are Kneely's

(07:36):
if you are I'm sorry, Penny's defense attorney, how do
you deal with that when you don't have a weapon,
and when there are other people on there as well
who didn't do what he did.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
Well, you know, it's a it's a very fact specific analysis.
And again the issue is the only opinions that count.
I should judgment that counts is going to be that
of the individuals and the grand jury who are going
to hear the evidence firsthand from the parties uh that

(08:12):
were directly involved or who were witnesses to the acts
that took place. And it's going to be a question
of reasonableness. You know, would a reasonable person have felt
that they were in danger of eminent physical harm, and
and was the response reasonable under the circumstances.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And Gregor, when you say reasonable, it's also your factory
in the amount of time he literally was choking.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
Him, And exactly, it's it's fact fact specific. So all
of those factors are going to be analyzed by the
by the grand jury. The the the conduct of the deceased,
the reaction actions, and of the people or the other

(09:02):
passengers in the subway car, you know, their perception of
a threat or their perception that there was no imminent threat.
So yeah, I said, it's a very very very fact
specific analysis. And you know, grand jury proceedings are secret,
so the public will not be privy to the actual

(09:26):
testimony of the parties in the grand jury.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right then, Gregory, look, we certainly appreciate it. Thanks
a bunch will certainly be following this case to see
what happens next. From Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's office.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
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right now, All right, folks, introduced our panel today Matt Manning,
civil rights attorney. Glad to have Matt on the show.

(13:18):
He of course frequent panelists. Also we have joining us,
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(13:39):
have all three of you here. Matt, when you look
at this particular case here, Penny has a problem, and
Penny's problem is that there were a lot of people
who are on this subway train. He's the only one
who decided to apply lethal force to choke the life
out of George Neely. Nobody else did so. If he's

(14:03):
going to make the argument, my life was in danger
and the other people were in danger. How so gun
weapon was the guy what just yelling? They're gonna have
to make that argument.

Speaker 17 (14:17):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right, and I think your
previous guest was good in showing that reasonableness is the
standard here, both in New York and in Texas and
presumably in other states. So the question will be was
it reasonable to use really force at all, but to
use force to this extent?

Speaker 18 (14:32):
And I think your point is well stated.

Speaker 17 (14:34):
I don't think he will have a good argument that
he should have used the force.

Speaker 18 (14:37):
I am kind of confused here though, as to.

Speaker 17 (14:39):
Why mister Bragg's office charged him with manslaughter rather than murder.
What generally happens when you go to a grand jury
is they're supposed to give you the charge that they
think the evidence supports, but customarily prosecutors go to them
with the potential charge, and sometimes that changes. And the
reason I'm confused here is because manslaughter in New York
is a reckless killing, which means you didn't intentionally or

(15:01):
knowingly do it, but there was a substantial risk of
harm that you disregarded. And putting somebody in a choke
hold is much different than putting them in another kind
of hold, right, Like if he had just kept his
body such as he couldn't move, that might make more
sense than choking him. But choking him you know that
the likely outcome is a person who's going to expire

(15:23):
if you hold him too long. So I'm interested in
seeing how this charge bears out. But I think your
point is well stated. I don't think he's got a
strong defense at all, because it'll be very hard to
show that he was reasonably in fear of any harm
coming to him and or that force was necessary if
you got a train full of people who did not
think that that was appropriate because they set the benchmark, and.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
That right here, Kelly, that he also has to deal with.
You're on a public transit system, folks are recording, so
we saw what happened. Now we don't have well, first
of all, what has not been released this video of
what took place before, but we don't know what was
all shot by various people that we can see what

(16:05):
preceded the choke hold.

Speaker 19 (16:09):
You're right about that, But at the same time, I
agree with what mattisoning, and I think we're all on
the same page here and that I am confused as
to why I only see a charge of manslaughter when
as lawyers, we know that the saying is you can
indict a ham sandwich and considering that the jury is,
you know, siloed in a private setting such that pretty

(16:31):
much they can talk amongst themselves by way of the
DA just presenting whatever they want to to the grand jury.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I don't understand how.

Speaker 19 (16:42):
The DA thought it was reasonable to not add the second,
the second degree murder charge, right, because we don't know
whether there's malice, because I would be first, but second
is like you killed somebody and I don't see any
negligence here. It seemed like it was pretty intent intentional.
So it seems like they are already feeding into the

(17:06):
court of public opinion on the side that mister Penny
did not necessarily do anything wrong, because otherwise second degree
murder would be one of the charges in the indictment.

Speaker 20 (17:18):
That's my opinion.

Speaker 21 (17:19):
Michael Well Roland one, I knew charges was gonna come
here to when Daniel Penny used a lethal chokehol Now
keep in mind, he was a marine, okay, so he
has training in self defense. You put a lethal choke

(17:41):
hold on somebody for fifteen minutes, now you can knock
somebody out with that choke hold between ten to thirty seconds.
You had him in that chokehold for fifteen minutes, so
he also has to justify in court each minute.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Why'd you still have him in that lethal choke hold.

Speaker 22 (17:58):
The other thing is, if you feared for your life
for the life of others, especially if you feel for
his life, why didn't you try to get away. I'm
not familiar with struggling with somebody for fifteen minutes because
you fear for your life like that. And what threat
did he What threat did Jordan nearly pose in the
tenth minute, the eleventh minute, or twelfth minute, et cetera.

(18:21):
So and then also this hasn't These were child charges
filed by the Day's office, not from an indictment from
a grand jury. From my understanding, it's still going before
grand jury, so maybe they'll come back with second degree
murder charges.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
And that right there again was still just jumps out
at me on this, Matt, is this notion that I
acted in self defense before something happened when a person
is not brandishing a weapon anything. Though, Let's just let's

(19:02):
just say for the sake of conversation here that Jordan
Neely walked up to him and said, I'm gonna knock
you out. You still took an action that killed somebody.

Speaker 18 (19:18):
I mean, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 17 (19:19):
I can see obviously, having done this work, I can
see a circumstance where somebody's not brandishing a weapon, or
that example would be if he continued to motion towards
his pockets as though he had a weapon, right that
twelve people might think that that's a circumstance where you're
reasonably in fear for your life.

Speaker 18 (19:33):
But here, I don't think you have that at all.

Speaker 17 (19:36):
And I think what's already happening with the common character
assassination we see in the media as they're talking about
other circumstances where Jordan Neely allegedly attacked other people on
the subway.

Speaker 18 (19:46):
And that kind of thing. But I don't see that
evidence here.

Speaker 17 (19:49):
So that's one immaterial to the same kind of character
assassination we always see. But three is going to make
Daniel Penny's case that much harder if there's not anything
he can point to the substantiate that in he he
was in reasonable fear.

Speaker 18 (20:01):
Because that's what the law does.

Speaker 17 (20:03):
It puts a duty on the person claiming self defense
to show that they were in reasonable fear right of
their safety. So if that fear is not believed or
is not reasonable, you can be convicted every day of
the week.

Speaker 18 (20:15):
And that's what I suspect twelve people do in this case.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
And I think for me, really, what I see here, Kelly,
what I see here is is you take this action.
And what's amazing is to sit here and watch all
of these cases on the right hell this guy as
a hero, and it shows you the complete and utter

(20:42):
disregard we have for folks who may have who have
mental issues, folks who may be homeless. This notion that yeah,
it's okay to kill this guy, society won't miss him.

Speaker 19 (20:57):
Well, I think it has more to added layer with
the people on the right regarding this issues that this
was an unhoused, mentally ill black man. I do not
think that the vitriol from the right would be as
vitriolic had this young man been white, And had this
young man been white and killed by another white man,

(21:19):
or further, had this young man been white and killed
by a black man, I don't think that we would
be seeing the discourse that we are seeing now amongst
the right regarding this issue. At the end of the day,
this was a young black man who was mentally ill.
This was a young black man who was mentally ill
and unhoused, and frankly, not to make it a stereotype,

(21:42):
this happened in New York City. He is not the
only one who has these issues. He is not the
only one who is going through this. And it would
be terrible precedent if mister Penny were to God forbid,
be acquitted of these charges or anything of that sort.
But I think it's terrible president now, the fact that
he has only been charged with or indicted with manslaughter,

(22:07):
when according to the video that we have seen and
according to the legal experts that we have heard from,
he could have been indicted for a second degree murder.

Speaker 23 (22:17):
With everything going on so.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Right now, it's not.

Speaker 19 (22:23):
It's unfortunate that this is happening right now, but from
from what I'm hearing on the right, it's par for
the course.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
See the thing here for me, Michael, which which which
makes these things so bothersome, is that when you listen
to these people, what we have we have this this
attitude again in this society that uh, these things that
this guy was a worthless human being who deserve to

(22:58):
be killed because he was so called loud and threatening
people on a subway.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (23:08):
Roller, And a lot of these people who are who
are echoing that, a lot of them on coup Plotter, TV, Fox,
and there's a lot of these are white supremes.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, let's be clear.

Speaker 21 (23:15):
These are the same people who cheered on Donald Trump
when he was on CNN lyon just the other night. Okay,
these are the same.

Speaker 22 (23:22):
People who we see over and over again who attack
Black Lives Matter, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But let me just say this very quickly.

Speaker 21 (23:29):
To have a lethal chokehold on Jordan Neely for fifteen
minutes does not sound like self defense.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
That sounds like torture to me.

Speaker 21 (23:37):
Okay, number one, Number two, I don't know how many
black people were on that subway, but god damn it,
if you see somebody trying to execute one of us,
I hope somebody would stand up and stop that intervene.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, that's totally uncalled for.

Speaker 22 (23:50):
So you know, George Floyd, the knee on George Floy's
next neck was nine minutes and twenty six seconds, if
I Mamma correctly, that was that's a hold from jiu
jitsu that cuts off the floor of blood to the brain.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
This was fifteen minutes, okay.

Speaker 22 (24:05):
So we got to have some respect for ourselves intervening,
especially when we see somebody white trying to execute somebody
with one of us like this, we have to have
more respect for ourselves also.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well again, I mean, and that's the thing for me
that really that bothers me here, Matt. It is a
state of mind. What we have in this country now
is a state of mind that there are some people,
a lot of people who don't mean anything, who are throwaways,
who if we kill them, we don't care. It sort

(24:39):
of reminds me of the guy, the business owner in
San Francisco just walking up. I'm just gonna just water
spray this homeless person. I'm just gonna just spray whatever,
bug spray or bear spray. I'm just gonna sit there
and douse them. There is a lack of humanity. And

(25:00):
again I get it. You're on the subway and look,
I've written the subway in New York City and somebody's
out there yelling and screaming, and look, your whole deal
is like all right, understand here, I'm see this fool
gonna do, see what his ass gonna do. But but
when you decide to take him down, and you are
a marine, you have been trained in hand to hand combat.

(25:24):
You know the difference between detaining a man until the
cops come and murdering him. And that's what Penny did.
He chose to literally snuff the life. He sat there
and had this man's life in his arms and said,

(25:44):
I'm gonna kill him.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (25:49):
I mean, I don't know that there's much I need
to add.

Speaker 17 (25:51):
I think you're exactly right, and I think what we
see being fomented in our country right now is exactly
what you said, which is that we are allowing the
other ring of people that whomever you know, people find
to be worthless or less than valuable. We see it
in our state houses, We're seeing it on this subway,
we see it in the media every day. And it's

(26:13):
terrifying because what's happening is we're normalizing violence towards people,
right We're normalizing violence towards the least of these, if
you will, people afflicted with mental health. Instead of finding
ways to help them and get them the treatment that
they need.

Speaker 18 (26:26):
They're being killed and open.

Speaker 17 (26:28):
You know public on the subway, So I don't know
how you curbed that tide, but that's something that we're
dealing with as long as along with the erosion of democracy,
and what we're seeing is not only is there not
a preservation of the dignity of those people, there is
an active assault against history, against the truth being told
in a lot of different spaces.

Speaker 18 (26:49):
So we have to fight against that.

Speaker 17 (26:51):
And I'm glad Michael said that, because you know, there's
an example of a case in the nineteen eighties that
they teach in law school where a man was shot
in New York City on the subway, and it's that
precise question about bystander innocence and bystander liability. And what
needs to happen is people need to step in when
they see something like this happening and say, man, you're
going too far. And that's one of the facts that

(27:12):
I think will hurt Daniel Penny. My understanding is somebody
indicated to him that mister Neely had defecated on himself
at some point during the time he was being choked,
and he disregarded that, and that'll be a very very
difficult fact for his defense team to fight against.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Type one second we come back, we'll talk with a
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Speaker 1 (30:10):
All right, folks. For the first time I int a history,
Democrats have elected a black woman to lead them in
the state of South Carolina. Chris Dale Spain won the
position with the commanding victory with the support of permanent
Democrats such is long time Congressman Jim Clyburn. Her election
come to South Carolina will play a significant role in
the Democratic presidential race. Of course, will be the first primary.

(30:34):
That is the first time that has happened. She joined
us now from Columbia, South Carolina. So, first off, congratulations,
glad to have you on the show.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Thank you so much, thank you. I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Obviously, with South Carolina being first up, that is a
huge chain. So look, Biden is running, You've got a
couple of nominal candidates who announced their running as well.
And so what is that going to mean for you, you,
for Democrats, for African Americans in the state. By now
being the first primary, it means that you.

Speaker 29 (31:07):
Know, black voters go for we get to hear have
my voice is heard first right. For the longest time,
we've been at the end of the campaign cycle. But
now we get to go first. And so what that
means is candidates are going to have to start talking
about issues that.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Matter to black voters.

Speaker 29 (31:21):
They're going to have to start coming into the communities
where black voters are and trying to engage them in
a real way, not in the same way that they've
done in Iowa for thirty years. They're going to have
to do that now here in South Carolina, you know,
and report the black vote.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And the thing right there though, is not just them,
you know, you know, recruiting the black vote. Let's talk
about what has to actually happen in your state. I mean,
you're in a red state. Democrats have been losing statewide positions,
but you've got a significant number of black people in
South Carolina who simply do not vote. If black people

(31:59):
actually voted their power in South Carolina, they could elect
black people statewide. What do you do to change this?

Speaker 7 (32:08):
So we have to start working doing year round voter engagement.

Speaker 29 (32:11):
For the longest time, we've always just kind of dealt
with that, the model of we leave our black voters
to the end of the cycle. The end of a
few weeks out from election day, and we can't do
that anymore. We have to start using seeing black voters
as persuasion targets and talking to them early and talking
to them often. I just had a success, a successful
cycle at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, where my role

(32:34):
was senior advisor for a Black engagement and I built
a program that did just that. We started talking to
black voters in April, the earliest ever at the d tripleC.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
And we spent significant amount of money doing that.

Speaker 29 (32:46):
We started targeting them with digital ads, mail, radio, and
we have to do those same things here in South
Carolina because we can do those same things here in
South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And when you say talking to them unpacked that because
I believe there's a different, different conversation saying hey, we
need you to vote. I can't get you to vote
unless you're registered. I can't get you to register unless
you believe that my vote actually makes a difference, which

(33:16):
then means I have to explain why these policies, why
these issues matter, which then gets you excited, then gets
you comfortable with knocking register now can actually go vote,
and so walk through what that actually looks like it means.

Speaker 29 (33:31):
So basically, what that means, I'm talking about a year
round voter engagement that does include voter registration. So in
twenty twenty, I ran the coordinated campaign for the party
when Jamie Harrison was the top of our ticket, and
we laid the foundation that cycle and we mobilize at
one point one million Democratic voters and a little lesson
of a little less of those vote, about eight hundred
plus thousand were black voters. But we weren't successful as

(33:55):
far as getting the victory. But what I did realize
is that those black voters were excited.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
To vote for Jamie. But one thing that I did discover.

Speaker 29 (34:03):
Later on when I launched a Pack forty six road
to figure out why those voters weren't those Obama eight
voters weren't turning back out, is because we weren't doing
collective organizing. We weren't holding their hand from the time
that they were registered to vote all the way to
November for election day. And so when I'm talking about
that engagement that is from voter registration, that is, hey,

(34:26):
it's important for you to register.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
You know what issues matter to you.

Speaker 29 (34:30):
Get them registered, make sure they get their voter registration
card and just really stay connected with them until it's
time to mobilize them in November. So when I say
talk to it's just not about like, hey, hey, Democrats
are here, we need your support. We also have to
figure out what is a mobilizing issue for them as well.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
That was I saw. I remember, we need a story
here that was a tremendous drop off of black voters
in twenty twenty two midterms. Why what happened?

Speaker 7 (34:59):
It was a tremendous drop off period.

Speaker 29 (35:01):
We've had the lowest voter turnout here in South Carolina,
probably then lower than we've seen in over a decade.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
So I don't really know. I wasn't at the party
at the time.

Speaker 29 (35:10):
But there wasn't much of an effort to mobilize the
voters in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
That is befuddling to me. I mean, because how can
a South Carolinian be the head of a Democratic National Committee,
but then in South Carolina, in his home state, there
wasn't much of an effort to get vote to vote
when you actually had competitive races.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Well, Jamie, are you talking about Jamie Harrison?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
No, I don't know what I'm saying. Is you know,
you got you got the head of the DNC who's
from South Carolina. And then what you're saying is you
didn't have Democrats who in South Carolina who were who
were engaged in trying to get the vote out in
twenty twenty two. That's crazy to me.

Speaker 29 (35:55):
Well, I mean it's you know, the party is the candidates.
You know, I'm not the person to answer that question,
because I wasn't. I didn't work here in twenty twenty two.
I wasn't elected in twenty twenty two. It's just about
the party's effort. It was kind of lack luster for
whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Was it a function of money and money.

Speaker 29 (36:16):
And a function of how our party is structured? Right,
if you have a top of the ticket here in
South Carolina and they're not invested in in the party apparatus,
then the party doesn't really have an apparatus for that
election cycle. So as you saw in twenty twenty when
Jamie was the top of the ticket, he was highly

(36:36):
invested in the party and we had a very robust
campaign cycle from you know, all across the state. You know,
from he invested in the racist from the bottom all
the way up to of course his own race, and
so we were able to mobilize over one point one
million voters. But if you turn around two years later
and don't and have a candidate that is not invested
in organizing in that way, then the party can't really

(36:58):
get the resources that need to engage voters.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
First of all, I want to let's stay right there,
because what you just described is being at the mercy frankly,
of candidates. And so what are you going to then
say to these candidates top to bottom, those who run
for you as Senate, those who run for Congress, those
who run for state by positions, what they are going

(37:27):
to have to do? Because frankly, if the candidates go, hey,
I'm sorry, we're not gonna put the resources in there,
are you going to look through in the eye and say, well,
guess what you're gonna lose?

Speaker 7 (37:35):
Then absolutely, I'm going to say that.

Speaker 29 (37:39):
But what I do want to make sure that we're
doing is having a very strong and robust candidate recruitment
and training program so that candidates are aware of what
their expectations are and they know what they're expected to
do and the party, and they know what the part
is expected to.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
Do and We're also going to work.

Speaker 29 (37:56):
I'm gonna work with my executive committee to come up
with a plan B because we cannot be at the
mercy of candidates like that ever again, because in twenty
twenty we took you know, three giant steps forward, and
then in twenty twenty two we took them all took
six steps back.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
So we can't afford to do that. We have to
continue progressing.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Questions from my panel. First off, Kelly.

Speaker 19 (38:17):
Sure, first and foremost, congratulations. This is no small feat.
And as someone who has ancestral roots in South Carolina,
both Carolinas, but South Carolina in particular, I'm really excited
for you in this endeavor. My question to you is,
even though I understand you are new to this position,

(38:38):
and you've mentioned that some of the problems in the
past has been the lack of handholding, as you called it,
from the voter being registered to actually getting the vote secured.

Speaker 18 (38:52):
While that may.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
All be well and good, how do you plan on.

Speaker 19 (38:57):
The sustainability of of holding these voters within the Democratic Party,
But more importantly, how are you planning to hold the
candidates within South Carolina accountable.

Speaker 27 (39:10):
So that they actually see through thee too?

Speaker 19 (39:13):
That the vote that they earned actually frankly is earned.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
How am I going to hold the candidate tell me
a war more time? I'm sorry?

Speaker 19 (39:24):
How are you going to hold candidates accountable? The Democratic
candidates under your uh purview, accountable for the thing for
the vote that you are trying to galvanize in South Carolina?

Speaker 29 (39:39):
You know, it's all about really having a stret We're
all going to be invested in that, that winning strategy.
And a lot of times I've seen in the past
from a different vantage point that everybody's kind of doing
their own thing, and we can't do that right. The
party has a role in the election as well as
the candidates. And so if the accountability piece to me
comes with we're doing our part, which is, you know

(40:03):
these voters here, right, We know the voters that we
need to mobilize, and we know the voters that the
candidate needs to try to persuade to vote. And so
I think it's the accountability comes with it being invested
in the strategy, Like, you only win if you're going
to do what we've already laid out, and I don't
think that that's been laid out fair enough for folks
in the past. So that's just one of the that's

(40:23):
one of the ways that I see us holding them
accountable because here's what we're going to do. We can't
go persuade independent voters the party. That's not the party's role.
The party's role is to expand and mobilize the base voters.
So if they understand that, I think that if they
understand that they're invested in winning, they'll they'll be accountable.

Speaker 18 (40:41):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Michael.

Speaker 21 (40:44):
Hey, congratulations, Crystal. I think this is a big accomplishment.
I agree with everything that you said. Then with the
outreach and starting early and continuous contact things of this nature.
One thing that I think is really important is in
the communitytion. The ongoing communication is assessing what has been

(41:04):
accomplished under the Biden Harris administration. What has been accomplished
in the past two years, et cetera, or three years.
What are one or two ways that you plan to
communicate what has been accomplished one and two are you
using the just curious?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Are you using the document from White.

Speaker 21 (41:20):
House dot gov The Biden Harris administration advances equity and
opportunity for Black Americans and communities across the country. Because
this is about a twenty six page document that breaks down,
category by category how the policies of the Biden Harris
administration are helping African Americans.

Speaker 29 (41:37):
Absolutely, I've seen that document, and the one thing that
I will tell you is that just because we haven't
been talking to our voters in that way, our voters
don't know, right they don't know their vote is working
for them. And that is the rule of the Democratic Party.
Like even with the bipartisan infrastructure law right here in
South Carolina, right here in Columbia, the traffic is almost
at a standstill because of all of the construction, and

(41:58):
people are frustrated. But I wanted to make sure that
our voters know this is progress. This is your vote
working for you. This is what your tax dollars are
fixing these roads finally. Right even with all the broadband,
South Carolina is a rural state, so having the access
to Wi FI across these rural counties is you know,
it's hugely beneficial to our voters, and we have to

(42:21):
let them know, here is your vote working for you again.
Right here, you voted for this, you got it. Access
to clean water. We've had our own counties here that
have had you know water prices that we're coming out of.
So every community having clean drinking water.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Is your vote working for you.

Speaker 29 (42:38):
And so we have so many things to celebrate and
to tell our voters about the accomplishments, and we have
to tell them.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
We are not telling them.

Speaker 29 (42:47):
We're not talking to them, and that's what I'm going
to change.

Speaker 18 (42:50):
Thank you, Matt, Congratulations on your election.

Speaker 17 (42:55):
My question for you is this, what, if any leverage
do you see this gives your party and Carolina in particular,
in driving the national conversation in terms of policy and
particularly maybe policy for us or just democratic policy in general.
And what I mean is that if y'all are the
first primary, you'll be the benchmark essentially for candidates and
what they do in subsequent primary.

Speaker 18 (43:15):
So how do you see that leverage that this gives y'all?

Speaker 29 (43:18):
I think that it gives black voters a voice, a
voice early rather than later.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
Right.

Speaker 29 (43:23):
So, whatever the needs and the issues are black voters
are when this cycle really gets started, that's what is
going to happen. That's what the candidates are going to
be talking about, right because if they're not going to
be able to wait and push you to the background,
they're going to have to lead off with issues that
matter to black voters.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Last question I have that is you have Bonds for
Liberty that has taken over a significant number of school
boards and show a lot of focus oftentimes is on
national and statewide races. But the reality is when you
talk about a state Democratic party, you're also looking at
those local races. What is your strategy to retake those
races as a matter of reminding people that hey, you

(44:05):
kind of got to vote in those races as well.
Because my understanding, ten of the fourteen largest school districts
in South Carolina, a significant number of black folks mods
for Liberty. These crazy white right wingers they're running through,
changing curriculum, firing superintendents. That's impacting black.

Speaker 29 (44:20):
Students, and that's a part of our you know, can
I no longer want to leave out non partisan candidates
in our candidate recruitment and training because of course we
see the Republicans have trade change the playbooks, so we
have to make sure that those folks are running strong
as well. But we have to again tell our voters
you can't miss elections like you feel the brunt of

(44:43):
your city council election quicker than you will the presidential
like you feel the brunt of your city council race
quicker than you will, you know, the presidential. So that
is also a part of what the party has to
do as far as that voter engagement, because it's an
education piece, not just November. In the even year. There
are big races here going on this year. Minor race

(45:06):
in Charleston, the city of Charleston, a big more mayor
race in the city of Greenville. So we've got lots
of time to practice what we need to do for
it next year in the general.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
All Right, then, miss bainwhich she'll appreciate it, thanks a
much and good luck.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Thank you so much, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1 (48:00):
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(48:22):
of this story reminds me of the Mount Aubury case.
Three white men in Jacksonville, Florida, are accused of killing
a black man who they actually chased, Ryan Nichols was
charged with second degree murder, while Daniel Gagardia and Holding
Dotson were charged with accessory after the murder of The
three men are accused of chasing a black man, whose
identity has not been released, for no reason.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Shot and killed him.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Jacksonville shriffes found the victim on May second, lying on
the ground near a dumpster where police believe he was
trying to hide from the men. He was pronounced to cease.
The judges advised the Guardia and Dotson if they may
have hate crime charges added to the other charges. According
to Florida statutes, hate crimes bring heavier penalties. This right

(49:06):
here is absolutely insane, Kelly.

Speaker 19 (49:12):
It is absolutely insane, and unfortunately it's not the first
time we've seen something so insane. I hope that they
are convicted and sentenced to the highest sentence that they
can possibly receive, because it is absolutely unacceptable to have
such stupidity.

Speaker 18 (49:32):
On top of racism in this country. There is no
reason for this.

Speaker 19 (49:37):
This black man lost his life and for what Because
three people saw a black man crossing the street. This
is not Jim Crow anymore, and it wasn't acceptable. Then
It's sure asn't acceptable now, and hopefully the law will
hold them accountable because based off of the information that
we have available to us via media, they very well

(50:01):
may be guilty of this crime and they should be
held accountable for it to the full ex extent of
the law.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It is just I mean, Michael, again, we continue to
see what happens here. I mean, my gut as they
chase this guy and kill him.

Speaker 21 (50:16):
Yeah, Roland, you know, this is another sad event. Once again,
I don't think it's a coincidental that it's taking place
in the state of Florida, where at the same time
they are attacking how African American history is taught in schools,
at the same time they're banning books dealing with the
civil rights movement, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And the way you treat a people.

Speaker 21 (50:41):
It's largely based upon what you've been taught about the people,
what you think about the people. And you know, we
can't let it escape this conversation that Florida is where
Rosewood was and the Rosewood, Florida massacre in nineteen twenty
three where they destroyed an entire time white supremaciveshort, an
entire of Randose African Americans.

Speaker 22 (51:01):
Out of Rosewood and took their land all because of
a line. All right, So this is another tragedy.

Speaker 21 (51:08):
Hopefully they get the fullest brought to justice and get
the stiffest penalty.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
But things like this have to stop. Absolutely. This case
here out of Chicago quite sad. Preston, a twenty four
year old police officer was actually shot and killed as
she was at her home. Now what they're investigating, Matt

(51:37):
in Chicago is why did it take cops thirty minutes
to respond to the shooting after the shot cam detected
that shots were fired in the area for African American
men where teenagers were actually arrested for her murder. Apparently
they had gone on a going to show the photos
folks apparently had gone on a robbery spree. She was

(52:00):
the three individu I'm sorry, she was one of the
victims again, a twenty four year old sister who again
shot and killed and saw a news conference Matt where
we'll try to find a video where her mother was
just stricken by it and said she actually felt sorry

(52:22):
for those young men. This year is a photo of
that twenty four year old officer Vis Preston.

Speaker 17 (52:31):
I mean this is obviously heinous, and it's obviously indefensible.
And what's layered on top of just the clear facts
here is the fact that we're talking about juveniles. We're
talking a fourteen year old child doing this. And obviously
children can be charged as adults, and children can understand
to some extent gravity of those crimes. But the system

(52:54):
has a whole different approach to juvenile prosecution than it
does adult prosecution because of what.

Speaker 18 (53:00):
We understand about neuroscience.

Speaker 17 (53:01):
So I say all that to say, what's especially sad
here is you have three young men who.

Speaker 18 (53:07):
Committed this haineous crime.

Speaker 17 (53:08):
What happened to this woman is obviously the most important
part of this. But a corollary to that is you
have three young lives that are now gone, and it
makes you have to do an examination of the circumstances
that put them there, the circumstances of systems that are
failing them holistically, and it culminates in things like this
heinous shooting. And I hope that they're brought to justice,

(53:29):
but I also hope that there is appropriate response and
that we look at the systemic causes of what causes
this kind of conduct.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Indeed, indeed, also while we are talking about Chicago folks,
what's also happening there. Of course Mayor Lori Lightfoot of
course lost or re election bid. They also are dealing
with this here. HUD is actually settled a lawsuit with
the City of Chicago with regards to environment racism. They're

(54:02):
going to have to actually make some changes there. HUD
found that Chicago City Hall effectively engaged in environmental racism
for years. If you look at this series is last
year HUDD investigators accused the city of intentionally steering polluters
to neighborhoods already overburdened with pollution and threatened to withhold

(54:24):
tens of millions of dollars in the federal funding of
the city does not change its practices. And again, what
we're seeing is that there are steering folks two areas
where black folks live. Lifefoot had a statement Chicago's listening
to the long standing concerns voiced by environmental justice organizations
and community members who have described how intensive industrial operations

(54:47):
and commercial transportation affect their neighborhood's health in quality of life.
I mean, Kelly, what's crazy here is again, this is
a city last four years has had a black mayor
significant African American population. And here's HUDs saying that this city, Chicago,
was engaged in environmental racism.

Speaker 19 (55:06):
Well, and we've talked about this concept on your show before, Roland,
and that you do not necessarily have to be white
in order to be a white supremacist, and you certainly
don't have to be non black in order to be
biased against black people. And if Hud is saying that
environmental racism has been occurring in the city of Chicago,

(55:27):
and the evidence points to that, then I just go
with the evidence and based off of what you're saying,
based off of what the media is saying about this issue.
It is unfortunate that there are some black people out
there who do not necessarily care about or prioritize the
lives of other Black people within their surroundings.

Speaker 18 (55:48):
And we have to find a way to root out.

Speaker 19 (55:52):
Those specific biased black people and bring in people who
actually care about the collective, who care about all black
PEO people and make sure that things like environmental racism
don't happen. And predominantly black cities are predominantly minority.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Populated cities.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Well, it's crazy here, Michael. I'll go to my iPad police.
And that is it says, central to a complaint. This
is from Chicago Sun Times. Central to a complaint from
three South Side organizations in twenty twenty was the planned
relocation of the General Iron car and metal shredding operation
from Lincoln Park to East one hundred and sixteenth Street

(56:29):
along the Calumet River. The organization's complaining to hood and
said neighborhood residents civil rights were being violated by the
move which shifted a polluting nuisance and a mostly white
affluent neighborhood to a predominantly Latino community area surrounded by
majority of black neighborhoods. So let's take it out of
the white folks area who got money, and let's go

(56:50):
to black and Routino folks.

Speaker 21 (56:51):
Are yeah, Roland, and we see this is the fight
that is going on within the environmental justice arena of
fighting against environmental racism. And you know, and also couple
with this, it may not play a part specifically in
this case, but in other cases where we see things

(57:12):
like this happen gentrification it's taking place as well. So
this is part of the harm that has to be repaired.
When we talk about we are hearing the legacy of
a damage of slavery and post slavery as well, things
like this that people don't really take into account. But
this type of racism is deadly.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Also last year go to my iPad sometimes said hud
still has an ongoing but separate civil rights investigation related
to the power that Chicago City Council members will to
prevent low income housing in their wards. Will keep you abreast,
So great job there by Secretary of Marshall Fudge and
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Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Folks. In a few days, the financing was going to
run out for Standard General's acquisition of the Television State
Television Group TECHNAW. Now what happened. If they're able to
do this, they will be acquiring the second largest TV
group in the country based upon revenue.

Speaker 12 (01:00:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Sue Kim is who leads Standard General. He's a Korean American.
They've been having this battle back and forth. They have
been fighting various unions, some support, some don't. Critics have
said they're going to be causing the loss of jobs.
He said he's made a number of concessions saying they're
going to be actually adding jobs. We actually have a
partnership with Sue Kim if this deal goes through, to

(01:00:54):
expand our content as a black owned media company on
all of the various properties. And so if he's able
to do this, joining us right now is the commission
of the FCC, Brendan Carr. There are four commissioners. They
have a position that is vacant. The chair of the FCC,
of course, sent this to the administrative Judge. Many said

(01:01:17):
that's a death knail because they don't have The judge
admitted they have enough time to actually investigate this here.
What still is befuddling to me commission a car and
I was there at the FCC meeting a couple of
weeks ago. If you have an FCC commission, you have
four commissioners, and yes you got one person who's not there.
Why in the world does the chair not say, Look,

(01:01:38):
we're the commission we get to decide, have an actual hearing,
go through the facts, have an actual vote, because this
has been looked at by the FCC for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
A hell of a long time, right, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 20 (01:01:52):
Look, there's no question the.

Speaker 38 (01:01:53):
SEC has the authority to issue an up or down
vote on the merits with respect to this transaction in
time time for that ruling to make a difference, although
as you indicate, it doesn't look at all like that's
going to happen if you step back. What's concerning here
is if you look at the ownership by minorities of
full power TV stations in this country, it's in the
single digits.

Speaker 20 (01:02:14):
And we have worked for years to try to improve.

Speaker 38 (01:02:17):
That, and without really us doing anything, this transaction came
to the FCC, as you noted, minority owner sue him.
We'll be purchaching about sixty full power TV stations, and
they'd be run by a woman. That would put us
for the first time into the teens at least in
terms of the percentage of TV stations owned by a
minority increased by fifty percent. That doesn't happen very often.

(01:02:40):
When you can have the most significant pro diversity injection
of capital and ownership into broadcast TV and the Internet's
great people are going direct to consumer, I think that's fantastic,
gets rid of the middleman, but there's still something very
unique about the power of local television. I think this
was one where the FCC really didn't run very good process.

(01:03:00):
Disappointed with where it.

Speaker 20 (01:03:01):
Is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I mean, you also have folks like Heeddric Richmond form
a Congressman, who say that the FCC's decision does not
job with the bidenhasa administration on wanting more equity and
inclusion when it comes to businesses in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, you're right me.

Speaker 38 (01:03:21):
Look, the touchdown of the SEC's media regulations of our
trying to approach to media regulation is localism, competition, and
importantly diversity, diversity of voices, diversity in all of its components.
And again it takes a lot of work to try
to attract minority ownership in media broadcasting because access to
capital is difficult.

Speaker 20 (01:03:42):
There's a lot of barriers to entry experience.

Speaker 38 (01:03:45):
And again, when you have a transaction coming to the
SEC stor that says, look, we will put you in
the teams, we will increase like fifty percent minority ownership
of TV stations, and yet we just put this bad
process again to step back. This deal was before the
SEC for a year, and as far as I could
tell as a commissioner, I was giving no indication that
this wasn't headed towards an upper down vote, and all

(01:04:05):
of a sudden the trap door fell out beneath of it.

Speaker 20 (01:04:07):
And just think about the.

Speaker 38 (01:04:08):
Signal that it sends, not just the negative signal it
sends in this particular transaction, but who's going to want
to go through the expense and the risk of a
year long regulatory review at the FCC, only to be
told at the end of that, by the way, you're
not even gonna get reviewed on the marrits.

Speaker 20 (01:04:20):
We're just gonna let you die when your financing runs out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
One of the things that I have said again, and
I've been one of the people I've been one of
the people who has been look just out front really
pushing Harvard it comes to ownership. And the thing here
is that when you talk about this opportunity, there have
been a number of civil rights groups that assigned MOUs

(01:04:45):
with Sue Kim with regards to this in terms of
what it would mean. But you know, you know, we
actually look, I own this, and I can tell you
there's been no other majors station group. There's another major
station group that where we met with who said, hey,

(01:05:06):
let's do a deal and help grow and build a
black owned media company. And that to me, that's why
that's why I did it. Because the ability for us
to be able to get our content, to have our
content on these platforms, to be the access local television
stations where African Americans are, That's what this is about.

(01:05:27):
That's why we struckt this deal. And so about the
FCC not moving on it. Not only do you deny
Sue Kim, come on, God show the photo. Only do
you deny Sue Kim this deal, you also are actually
hurting someone like me, a black owned media company, from
being able to grow and being able to one day
able to buy stations and build a media company, and

(01:05:50):
so what ends up happening is the media, frankly, the
second most powerful institution in the world behind the military,
stays largely white in America.

Speaker 20 (01:06:00):
Yeah, s deeply, deeply disappointing. You know.

Speaker 38 (01:06:01):
One another idea that we threw out a couple years
ago is something called an incubator program. We launched it
in the radio context, which is to say, a large
TV station could incubate a smaller new entrant, you know,
women owned, minority owned, and they could do that in
the way that wouldn't count against.

Speaker 20 (01:06:17):
FCC's ownership rules.

Speaker 38 (01:06:19):
That radio incubator hasn't really seen a lot of uptake
my views. We need to expand that into TV and
maybe look at some additional incentives. How do we create
the right regulatory incentives so that large established TV, hopefully
soon and radio stations will bring on board new entrants,
get them into the market, share resources, share talent, and
then allow them to flourish. I think that incubator program

(01:06:41):
is another thing at.

Speaker 20 (01:06:41):
The FCC that we really need to get going on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Well, and look, you used to have you used to
have tax credits that played a huge role that expanded
the number of radio station ownership. That of course that
went away, and then we saw that contract as well.
And the thing here and again I'm just gonna this
is done. The ideological deal. Here's the deal. When sin
Clair took over all these TV stations, they infused their

(01:07:10):
ideological perspective in these stations. So we understand. And look,
I know, when you own you get to do what
you want. And so having a Korean American who owns
the station, partner with African Americans, partner with Latinos and others,
then it expands the opportunity. And I would have thought
democratically appointed FCC commissioners would like that. Yeah.

Speaker 38 (01:07:34):
Look, I think ownership matters, to your point, and I
think that's why we worked so hard. You mentioned the
tax credits which were in place, they expired in Congress.

Speaker 20 (01:07:42):
Hasn't put them back in place.

Speaker 38 (01:07:44):
Those seemed to work, obvious there was constitutional questions raised
with respect to that.

Speaker 20 (01:07:47):
I think that was part of the expiring.

Speaker 38 (01:07:49):
But again, there's all these things that we try to
do to introduce minority ownership, and yet this deal comes
to our door and all we have to do is
say yes, and you go from you know, five percent
six seven percent minority ownership of TV stations in this
country into the teams right away, and that's a pretty
good start. And again I'm just I'm concerned about this transaction.
I don't see a pass forward at this point, unfortunately

(01:08:11):
process wise at the FCC. But again, more generally, I mean,
who wants to go through this when there's just no
certainty at all? So I think we've got work to
do with the FCC to make sure that the ownership
of TV stations of radio stations better reflect the diversity
of this country.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, two commissioners who would like for them to be
up and down vote you and Commissioner of Sithnington. That
was a filing that I thought was interesting that stated,
in any event, the applicants request for a commission vote
of peers feudal, given that it seems unlikely that the
applicants could receive a majority vote in support of their
proposed transaction because the FCC does not have a full

(01:08:47):
complement of commissioners to vote or break a dead lot. First,
Gregory Starks is an African American. He's a SEC commissioner,
as he actually publicly stated where he stands on this.
And first of all, how can there someone say, well,
it's going to be dead Locke if you never actually
have a vote. Yeah.

Speaker 38 (01:09:08):
Well, process wise, at the FCC, the chair has complete
control over what comes before us to vote in what
gets yanked away from us in terms of casting a vote,
that's a prerogative of the chair. So again, even though
there's four of us, even if three people came together
and said they want to vote on the merits, unless
one of those three is the chair, there's no action
forcing way that three commissioners can force a chair to

(01:09:31):
bring somewhere something forward. You mentioned Comissioner Stars. He's been
doing really good work at the FCC. He's been working
hard just with him at historically black University down here
in Virginia, and he's been promoting some initiative to try
to get more low income minority communities onto the Internet
with a particular program called ACP, which is a new
subsidy discount to get low income people online. So I

(01:09:54):
think we're all rowing in the right direction here, But
this is just a real big black guy for the
FCC when we had a chance to do something to
promote diversity, and plainly it looks like at this point we're.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Not going to in the Commissioner, Brendan and the car.
We appreciate you joining us and coming here on rolland
Maard unfiltered to explain what's going on in this deal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Thanks thanks so much, Thanks a bunch, go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
My panel here. This is the thing, Michael, and that
would you have going on? So we've got something that's
going on right here. Okay, you've got you've got some
Democrats who have been opposing, saying, oh, private equity taking
over this immediate property, they're going to be just slashing
jobs left and right. But you've got some other Democrats

(01:10:37):
who've been saying, wait a minute, you get like Senator
Robert Menendez saying, why are we not addressing the issue
diversity in ownership. You've got folks on both sides. You've
got some union folks opposing, some union folks who are supporting.
The thing for me is real simple. You're the FCC.
You are pointed to make decisions. Do your job, Commissioner

(01:10:59):
rosen All, just do it, call for the actual call
for the actual vote, or say we're gonna have an
FCC hearing. We want to hear both sides and let's
vote and see what the hell happens those ship it
off to the administrative judge to kill it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah, I think I think the FCC should act on this.

Speaker 21 (01:11:21):
And this is one of the reasons why specifically black
owned media is so important. But how black owned media
is also impacted by government decisions, by who's in office,
by the FCC, so I think they should make a
decision on this. And and also you know, we have

(01:11:42):
to understand and I think those of us on the panel, notice,
the Democratic Party is not a monolith. Those those Democrats
in the House and the Senate, they're not a monolith.

Speaker 18 (01:11:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
And I think it's it's also important to have.

Speaker 21 (01:11:58):
Representatives in the House in the Senate who also have
some type of background in media. The reason why I
say that is specifically African Americans. The reason why I
say that is because they can probably advocate better for
African American media than other people who may mean well
but don't have any experience in this arena.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Well, here's old deal. The FCC, that's what their job is, Matt.
They are the Federal Communications Commission. They're for them. One
person had a name withdraw after opposition from Republicans and
so typically whoever part is in control, they typically would
have three Democrats two Republicans, or three Republicans to Democrats.

(01:12:40):
Typically how it goes. The thing here, though, is do
your job literally had you've had months and months and
months of research. That's why you have staff call a
hearing and say, guess what. Those who are for this,

(01:13:01):
we would love to hear your testimony. Those who against
we're going to sit here and actually do a vote. Don't.
This is sort of like Matt like the Supreme Court
shadow docket. You just be able so you don't actually
have any hearings. You don't actually have any testimony, but
you kill certain things or make certain rulings at Friday

(01:13:21):
night at nine pm, so no one knows what's going on.
That's essentially what's going on here. You're killing a deal
by not actually holding a vote.

Speaker 17 (01:13:31):
It happens every day, and I hate it because they
often try to put the lawyers in the position where
we make some decision that they're afraid to make, and
they're afraid of voters having a response that they don't like.
But I think you're a hundred percent right, or at
least here they should make it very clear what the
potential objections are. What I was wondering, and what I
was hoping to ask mister Carr is whether there's a
concern about it being anti competitive, whether there's some concern

(01:13:53):
about monopoly concerns, or some reason that it would justify
not taking a vote.

Speaker 18 (01:13:58):
But I think your point is very well stated.

Speaker 17 (01:14:00):
Look, you're on this commission to make decisions, and make
the decisions period, right, have the vote, and then if
the vote goes the way that the deal doesn't go through,
that at least you've done your public duty and you know,
made the vote that you should you think should happen.

Speaker 18 (01:14:14):
So and be on record in the dark and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Be and be on record this whole deal. I mean
when I when I went out of the hearing, Kelly,
the cheerwoman I've had on the show before, a nice
woman and you know, but she goes, well, I can't
speak to that because it's it's before the administrative judge
and it's also a lawsuit going on. So then I
asked her, I said, Okay, so you can't speak to

(01:14:37):
the mayors. Okay, how about why not hold the actual heir? Well,
I can't, I can't speak to that. She literally her
whole position was, I can't speak to anything because of
the administrative law law judge, you're the one who actually
sent it there, so it's like you can't say anything
at all. And again, I just simply go back to

(01:14:58):
I believe, I believe in leader's leading, and if you
don't think this should go through, do a vote and
be on record. Guess what if it dead locks. It deadlocks.
If it's three to one and you're the one and
the other three support it, that's great. But don't sit
here and not do anything because oh, it's an easy

(01:15:23):
way to kill a deal. But not actually being on record.

Speaker 19 (01:15:28):
Well, I'm sensing and I'm not trying to make this
a super broad comment, but in what I'm seeing in
the news and how Democrats have been behaving as of late,
and by as of late, I mean the last let's
just say five years to be conservative, This lack of
wanting to be held accountable, this lack of being on

(01:15:52):
the offense when it comes to issues, and letting things
just kind of rock, letting things ride such that they
are blamed either way and when something does go down,
they can blame somebody else for it. When at the
end of the day, Democrats had the opportunity to do

(01:16:13):
something about it ahead of time.

Speaker 27 (01:16:15):
And what I'm seeing here is that frankly, the Democrats
in the FCC are holding up process that would help
left wing issues such that you have diversity.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Well, it's not it's not necessarily left wing issues. So
this is not an ideological thing. The bottom line here
is very simple. Here you have a Korean American owns
a company. Now there are Democrats that oppose him by saying,
because you're private equity, and yes, we have seen in

(01:16:51):
the newspaper industry how some private equity companies have decimated jobs.

Speaker 39 (01:16:57):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Not all companies are the same. You have, you have
commitments that have been made. But the point here is
this here, I don't care if you say suit him,
I don't believe him. I don't believe stander general. That's fine,
vote vote, be on record and vote it down. If

(01:17:18):
there are two, if there are three commissioners that are
against it, vote if there are two and two and
it's deadlock, it still doesn't go forward. My problem is
you don't even want to take a vote. That to
me is weak leadership. You're killing a deal by saying, yeah,

(01:17:38):
we're no, we're gonna go take a vote. So We're
gonna let it die over here because you don't want
to actually be on record to vote. Thirty seconds final comment.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
I understand that, and I agree with you.

Speaker 19 (01:17:49):
But what I'm seeing again is a recurring theme of
Democrats not wanting to take accountability because.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
They don't know what the end result could be.

Speaker 19 (01:17:59):
Like you said, said, they need to do their job
and vote, But because we don't know what the repercussions
are gonna be if we vote one way or the other,
we would rather, you know, shift and let another entity
deal with it. That is a recurring theme that I'm seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Well, that's crazy as hell to me, all right, folks,
So again we'll see doubt anything happens, but we'll see
what happens in the next few days. Got to go
to break, we come back. We've got hpc you connect.
Bas Brown has a class dealing with e sports. Yes,
that is actually being taught at an HPCU. We're talking
with Christina Grandville, professor who's teaching that course. Will also

(01:18:39):
have our Education Matter segment talking with talking with folks
at NASA about it innovative program there. Plus my needs
Faith graduates from Howard University, oh Action is happening right now.
It actually happened to run into a prominent actor while
I was leaving whose nephew is graduating at the same time.

(01:19:02):
I'll share that with you. You're watching Roland Martin unfiltered
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On the next Get Wealthy with me Deborah Owens, America's
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Speaker 40 (01:19:14):
Nurses are the backbone of the healthcare industry, and yet
only seven percent of them are black. What's the reason
for that low number, Well, a lack of opportunities and
growth in their profession.

Speaker 23 (01:19:29):
Joining us on the next Get Wealthy is needing Barnanilli.

Speaker 40 (01:19:33):
She's gonna be sharing exactly what nurses need to do
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So the Blackness Collaborative really spawned from a place and
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of us in a profession to also look and reach
back and petate and create pipelines and opportunities for other
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(01:21:49):
the focus is graduation day all across the country.

Speaker 17 (01:21:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
And a little bit earlier, I dropped by Howard University
because of my niece, my niece Faith Marshall. She's actually graduating. Yeah,
she was showing her graduating shoes.

Speaker 27 (01:22:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
And so they're actually having the ceremony as we speak.
She's an architecture major getting her undergraduate degree and then
she will actually be uh, she'll actually be returning to
get her master. So while I was about to leave,
like literally I was leaving, I couldn't attend the ceremony
because of course I had to host the show. And

(01:22:26):
so kiss who I'd run into actor Roger Guinevere Smith.
You've seen him in many Spike Lee movies. Well, his
nephew was graduating. Uh. And so hell, while we're there,
might as well say talk to him. Here's our conversation.
He and Howell University and my nieces graduating. Come on,
let's MI grow up, Let's go, let's go. No, Mike Current,

(01:22:48):
your nephew. My nephew is graduating calling my government Smith.

Speaker 12 (01:22:53):
This is a fourth generational.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Snake coming in through Wow Wow. And the first was
my father.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
And tomorrow we will celebrate what would have been my father's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
One hundred of the first bro Wow forman w Smith
se that's awesome always well, first of all, it's always
good to see these young folks continue the tradition. Out
here go and uh ready to do some great stuff.
What would you if you had to speak to and
what would you tell them? If there is no struggle,
there is no problems.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
I just got those in Professor's fable, the freedom out
of there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I appreciate the asp atention of those whom are prompts.
So about clods left the blind was raining.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Without funding and lightning about polution, That's what we wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Well, as they had an awards program and the head
of the architect department asked me to say a few words, uh,
and I told them H. I said, well, I get
in commitment at Jackson's State in December, I said'm gonna
tell y'all the same thing. You belonging in whatever room
you walk.

Speaker 12 (01:23:49):
Here, absolutely, even if you have to build it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Yourself, you damn skipping good good as all right folks again, okay, right,
relations to all the graduates, whether you went to HBCU,
PWI Community College, JUCO does not matter. And so congratulations.
All right, let's talk about my nix's guests and what

(01:24:12):
she's doing. So now some of y'all are here, going
I watch all these kids stop playing games. But the
reality is a lot of people are making a lot
of money playing video games. It is huge. It is
a multi billion dollar industry, and a lot of African
Americans are not fully engaged in it. Well, the folks

(01:24:34):
at Morris Brown College decided to actually have a course
that deals with e sports. And so my next guest,
Christina Grandeville, that actually hired her to teach that. Yeah.
I never thought i'd be calling Professor Grandville, oh my god,
Oh my god, but that's actually what she is. She's

(01:24:55):
actually in town. So you're in town to do something
for the NBA, Well.

Speaker 9 (01:24:58):
You don't, Yes, I work for the NBA two K League.

Speaker 42 (01:25:01):
As an NBA two K League host, So I host
the AT and T five G game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Based show, and so what's the NBA two K League?

Speaker 20 (01:25:07):
One?

Speaker 42 (01:25:07):
It is an entirely of competitive pro players that play
two K and they have salary, they have housing, they
have full benefits, and they play professionally against each other
in competitions and tournaments really for a lot of money.
Tonight we're playing three B three tournament. They're playing for
a six hundred thousand dollars prize pool.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
A lot of brothers and sisters play.

Speaker 42 (01:25:25):
Yeah, I mean the league is very diverse. There's not
a lot of women in the league. We're still trying
to push the culture forward with getting women involved in
the league.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
But there's a lot of men.

Speaker 42 (01:25:34):
There are a lot of black and brown brothers that
are in the league doing their thing.

Speaker 9 (01:25:39):
They're killing it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
So how did this come about? This Morris Brown, this
esports class.

Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
Oh, it is amazing what Morris Brown is doing.

Speaker 42 (01:25:48):
I'd like to call it the heart reset, like President
James always say, we have a whole entire esports lab
that is dedicated to students who want to get into esports,
who want to learn about the NBA two K league.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
Who wants to learn about Overwatch and Call of Duty
and all.

Speaker 42 (01:26:04):
These other amazing leagues that are going on that for
so long, African American millennials young adults have not been
able to be a part of maybe because the resources,
or maybe because of things that they didn't know how
to even get into it. So Morris Brown has opened
up the floodgates to let students come in and learn
about the world of esports. I'm professor there and I

(01:26:25):
teach intro the team management and esports, and we have
a lot of other courses that are getting these students
ready to learn the business, to learn the ins and.

Speaker 9 (01:26:34):
Out of the esports arena.

Speaker 42 (01:26:36):
I love to tell people all the time and try
to educate them. It's the fact that eighty four percent
of African American millennials play video games, but only four
percent are actually in the gaming industry.

Speaker 9 (01:26:48):
So what we're doing at Morris Brown College, so.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
We spent a lot of time playing the games, but
we ain't getting paid, oh not at all.

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
We are I gotta say we are the consumers, not
the producers.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
And that is a wall case with black people in
a whole bunch of areas. It is where we're making
a bunch of other people rich.

Speaker 17 (01:27:04):
It is.

Speaker 42 (01:27:05):
However, the time is now for us to get in
this space and encourage these young students to get in
where they finish. You know, you play video games, parents,
stop telling your kids playing video games is bad. There
are kids and young adults and adults who are making
millions of dollars from video games and they have been
benefiting from the black culture for the longest and it's
important that we continue to encourage our students to say, hey,

(01:27:27):
if you want to get into video games, let's figure
out the proper way to get you in that space.

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
And that mores Brown College now you can get a
degree in it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
So this is a video here from your Instagram feed
where there was a tournament there at Morris Brown. First
of all, how many students are a part of this
esports lab So we have.

Speaker 9 (01:27:48):
The whole program.

Speaker 42 (01:27:49):
We have about maybe I think thirty to maybe thirty
to forty students who are in the esports program, and
we're building that number as it go. Of course, this
is a hard reset for us, so we're trying to
get more students, involve more students aware of what's going
on at Morris Brown College and get them to come
and engage with us.

Speaker 9 (01:28:05):
At Morris Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Uh, now where you uh the first of one? Now,
how did they hire you.

Speaker 20 (01:28:13):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
I was asking, what the hell? Because, uh, you play
video games?

Speaker 42 (01:28:16):
Well, I used to play video games a long time ago.
I played Duck Hunt, you know, a little NBA jam.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
So hold up, So you so you teaching what you
don't but you ain't actually playing.

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
So let me tell you this is the beautiful thing
about esports. You ready for this? What you don't have
to be a gamer to be in esports? Think about it?
If you are.

Speaker 42 (01:28:33):
I'm a host and I'm a host in the NBA
two K League, the one of the biggest leagues in
all of esports. And I am a host who knows
the game of basketball. I'm a former game I'm a
former basketball player. I'm played in college a place in
my professional basketball, so I know the game of basketball.

Speaker 9 (01:28:50):
And I've been able to leverage.

Speaker 42 (01:28:52):
That into a world of being a host, into the
world of now being a professor at Morris Brown College.
Through all of my experiences with working with through the league,
I was one of the first African American females to
be a sportscaster for HBCU E Sports League. So I
have the experience, I have the accolades, I have the
knowledge to do that and to educate.

Speaker 14 (01:29:12):
I can play the games now, oh now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Of course, because yeah, I gotta see some kids in
the class like man, I can teach her and I.

Speaker 9 (01:29:23):
Want them to.

Speaker 42 (01:29:23):
That's what we really want with our students. That's what
we really want with everybody, especially our Black culture, is
to get involved and get engaged. If you don't know
how to play, it's okay. If you're a hairstylist, makeup artist,
you do digital work, you're a photographers, there is room
for you in the EES sports arena. I need everybody
to understand that you don't have to be a gamer.
So don't listen to Roland.

Speaker 9 (01:29:42):
But whatever it is that you're passionate about, please.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
You do want to listen to me.

Speaker 9 (01:29:48):
In this moment.

Speaker 42 (01:29:48):
You're a very smart guy in this moment, whatever it
is that you're passionate about when it comes to esports,
if you don't know anything about esports, there is room
for you to be great, especially for African Americans students
to come in this space and learn and then grow.

Speaker 9 (01:30:03):
I didn't know how to play two K, but now
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
All right, So I'm gonna go to a break. We're
gonna come back, uh, and then we'll talk a little
bit more about this here. Then we got an education
matter segment, and we'll take some questions from our panelist. Uh,
and we'll see which one of them actually is still
grown playing video games.

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
I'm just what you said, growl still playing video games?
Is if that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Yes, first of all, it's called. First of all, in television,
it's called teas.

Speaker 9 (01:30:29):
That is not a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Actually called a teas.

Speaker 18 (01:30:31):
I get you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
See the whole point of television is like you do
a teas, keep people to come back after the break. See,
somebody is a new bee at hosting somebody.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
Years but you get it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Rolling, come on, somebody is come on, you gotta ask somebody.
Pree Hall of Fames watch rolling right down the filter
on the Black Start Network. Yes that was Patty and shit,
I love you.

Speaker 10 (01:30:57):
Hatred on the streets a horrific seen a white nationalists
rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
White people are losing their their minds. As an angry
pro Trump mod storms the US Capital. The show we're
about to see the lives where I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 11 (01:31:24):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 12 (01:31:29):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been the Carold Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
This is the right of the proud boys and the
Boogaaloo boys America. There's going to be more of this,
the provo God.

Speaker 13 (01:31:47):
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white.

Speaker 31 (01:31:55):
People, the fee that they're taking our jobs, they're taking
our resources, they're taking.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Out this his white Beard Live.

Speaker 18 (01:32:17):
Star Network is.

Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
A real revolution there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
I thank you for me in the voice of black
amerances a moment that we have.

Speaker 12 (01:32:26):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 20 (01:32:28):
The video of phenomenal is.

Speaker 15 (01:32:31):
Between Black Star Network and black owned media and something
like seeing in You.

Speaker 14 (01:32:36):
Can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
It's time to be smart, bring your eyeballs home.

Speaker 12 (01:32:43):
You dig.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Hey, I'm cubid. The make of the Cuba shuffle and
the wham dangs going on.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
This is Tobias Travillion.

Speaker 39 (01:32:53):
If you're ready, you are listening to and you are
watching Rolling Martins Unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Mhm, but what you asked?

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
What you asked?

Speaker 20 (01:33:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
What that's for?

Speaker 20 (01:33:10):
What?

Speaker 19 (01:33:11):
We're back live?

Speaker 12 (01:33:12):
Thank what?

Speaker 9 (01:33:13):
Welcome?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Like seriously you're trying to see it here? Yeah? Yeah,
she sat down explaining to y'all what happened. She literally
sat down and she said, she said, what time is
this coming on?

Speaker 9 (01:33:28):
What side of Okay, welcome back? This is the age?

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
She said, what time is this coming on? I said,
we are alive, and then she just said then she
just here's the proper ce. Never you never you never
said nothing off air, because I will put it on
that Son was like, hey, conversation, somebody seeing me, uh
this video. I didn't have time to tell my Instagram followers.

(01:33:54):
I'm like people, and I said, we only live five
days a week and we've owned had roland Mark and
Unfiltered for four and a half years.

Speaker 9 (01:34:03):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
And I've known her in that same time.

Speaker 9 (01:34:06):
I've known you from for five years.

Speaker 42 (01:34:09):
I've been working I'm actually right down the street at
Capitolron Arena at District E hosting there as well. So
I'm in between jobs. I'm in between jobs right now.
I'm hosting there. I'm also here and then I'm going
back to host because we have some more students that
are coming to watch our three v three playoffs. So
shout out to everybody at the NBA two K League
that's holding it down for me while I'm here on

(01:34:30):
your amazing show that I'm so happy to be a
part of.

Speaker 9 (01:34:33):
Live Live.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Let me show y'all. This here is the Morris brown
E Sports Performance Concentration Certification. Twenty four hours are required.
You see the program description, and so they offer the
classes in introduction and esports.

Speaker 18 (01:34:51):
Is that what you do, no, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Which introduction? The business modeling that what you do? No, sir, Nope,
there's no shock. Introduction to social Media management that what
you do? No, sir, okay. Esports Performers and contemporary issues
you do that? No introl the desk coasting, that's what
you do.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
I may be doing that in the fall Okay, introduction.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
The team man, now right go that's me okay? First
of all, So like what what what? Team management?

Speaker 9 (01:35:13):
So intro the team management.

Speaker 42 (01:35:14):
There's different teams in esports, right, and you have to
learn how to plan flights, how to plan events.

Speaker 9 (01:35:19):
So my student is what I did with them.

Speaker 42 (01:35:21):
I was teaching them and then actually taking them to
different arenas to show them how they can be a
part and how they can build these teams.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Have you ever had an esports team?

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
Have I had an esports team?

Speaker 20 (01:35:30):
No?

Speaker 35 (01:35:31):
I have not.

Speaker 9 (01:35:32):
Have I had to manage one like and help them? Yes,
I have?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
How many? How many? How many players? Will you manage?

Speaker 42 (01:35:38):
Not players, just the whole entire thing, right, getting ideas,
trying to figure out how to how we're going.

Speaker 9 (01:35:43):
To do this event, how we gonna do that event? Yeah, okay,
come on, you want to sit me, come on, let's
join now you I'm gonna go to for toe with you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Come on, you can't come on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Intel Television production and esports career planning caps down. All right,
let's go. We have questions from panel. Let me see
the three of y'all, Matt, Michael, and Kelly. Let's see
who likely spends a lot of time as a grown
as person planning.

Speaker 9 (01:36:09):
Oh, you know, don't do them like that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Oh, it's probably Matt. It's probably Matt. It's probably Matt.

Speaker 39 (01:36:17):
Matt.

Speaker 9 (01:36:17):
Is that you Matt?

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Matt really a part time lawyer. But he's really a
part time lawyer. But and then most of the time
you're playing video games. All right, Matt, what's what's your
esports question for Christina?

Speaker 17 (01:36:33):
Here's my question, Christina. First off, why you go on
the show where somebody do it is bad?

Speaker 18 (01:36:37):
But here's my question for you. Uh, in terms of esports,
is there a way.

Speaker 17 (01:36:42):
For the students to actually monetize their involvement like nil
deals or anything like that.

Speaker 39 (01:36:48):
Oh?

Speaker 42 (01:36:48):
Yes, there are certain ways too. They can do streaming
through Twitch YouTube. They can also be a part of
different tournaments. They can get on an esports team and
make salary. There's a prize money. There's so many different
ways that they can monetize being a part of esports.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
All right, let's see here, h Kelly, what what games
do you play? And don't don't say miss don't say
Miss pact Man.

Speaker 23 (01:37:16):
How about Angry Birds?

Speaker 9 (01:37:17):
Hey, that's a good one. Candy Crush.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Oh lord, Kelly's question.

Speaker 19 (01:37:25):
My question is, as I hear an echo, my apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
None you find you're fine? Go ahead.

Speaker 19 (01:37:33):
So my question is regarding the sports in general. Like you,
you did allude to that you don't necessarily have to
be an esports player to be an e sports and
you use yourself as an example in being a host
for esports events.

Speaker 27 (01:37:49):
Can you talk about and expand expound.

Speaker 19 (01:37:52):
Upon the other careers you can make with any sports
that would make this kind of major viable to students.

Speaker 42 (01:37:59):
Oh my goodness, there's so many different careers in esports,
not only just being a host, but there if you
want to be a video game developer, an app developer,
there's so many different ways. Matter of fact, we need lawyers,
we need attorneys, we need medical assistance.

Speaker 9 (01:38:15):
There's so much an.

Speaker 42 (01:38:16):
Each stop be a lawyer, I continue continue.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
To play in video games.

Speaker 42 (01:38:23):
But also then that's the way for you to relate
to the players when you're working with them. Esports is
a world to where you can literally be anything in
the outside world inside of the esports world. So it's
super important that people understand you don't have to be
a gamer.

Speaker 9 (01:38:36):
Even if you just only play.

Speaker 42 (01:38:37):
Candy Crush or Aiming Birds, you can still be a
part of the esports space and then.

Speaker 9 (01:38:42):
Make some very very good money.

Speaker 42 (01:38:45):
I've told my students so many times it's like, how
do you fly everywhere? And it's because I've been afforded
the opportunity to be in a space, in a world
of esports, to do exactly what I love to do,
and that's entertained, encourage and empower people to get.

Speaker 9 (01:38:57):
In where they fit in.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Actually, actually she flies well, attendant attended.

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
Now what else do I do? I am Jamaican. I
know I got like twelve jobs, But.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
What else do I do?

Speaker 12 (01:39:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Matter of fact, somebody in the group chests. Is she
looking in? Uh?

Speaker 20 (01:39:12):
The group?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Chack?

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
My goodness, chat, She's not kiding. She from Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (01:39:16):
I'm Jamaica, from Florida, from Florida. I am from I
am from Cluist in Florida. The sweetest town in America.
Cluist in Florida. That's where I'm from.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Never heard of town? Look it up? Yeah, yeah, you know, Like,
what's that near? Michael? What's the question?

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
All right?

Speaker 21 (01:39:34):
Thanks Christina for this information. So I'm a gen nexer.
I don't play video games. I'm busy doing research and
teaching history classes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
But I don't play video games.

Speaker 20 (01:39:51):
So what what?

Speaker 17 (01:39:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
You ain't up you ain't not playing video games.

Speaker 9 (01:39:56):
The shade is real video games. But what a tall
you play?

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
What you play? Atari back in the day, you know
with Nintendo you play play Galagger Gallagher, see right there?
Hold on, hung up, hold up, boom, right there there,
your ass plane right there.

Speaker 39 (01:40:20):
Front.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
No, nah, no, I'm trying too.

Speaker 20 (01:40:23):
No. No.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
First of all, you're trying to be our boos. You
know I'm I have the African in History. No, I
have the African History Network show. I don't play those
things games. And then then I said Gallagher, he goes,
see right there, boom, your ass played. I never said
I never played video game.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
By the way, Roland, you do. You do look good
in blue and white. I don't care what anybody say.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
First of all, Alphas got to show y'all how to
wear colors.

Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
Yeah, don't get them started.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Hold on, he let's be real clean.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Look.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
No Sigma ever maszoom the camera out. No Sigma ever
looked this good? Hold up, he give on, give me
a wire shot, Give me a wire shot. Say now,
give me a wire shot. Don't take that camera give
me why see let me give me a give me
a wire shot. Say no, you understand Michael. See, I'm
gonna let her ask your question, but I need to

(01:41:16):
let you know. Ain't no Sigma ever. Look this good?
Do you see this here?

Speaker 30 (01:41:21):
Son?

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
First of all, do you sigma?

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Harry Feller?

Speaker 19 (01:41:25):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
You can't even boy? You better ask somebody you messing
with a grown ass? Offer you better ask you better?
You better asked your little question. But you know, damn
well you can't rock alphas can wear oh colored son,
go ahead and ask your little question.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
But anyway, Christina, you get you gotten your daddy. But
what's the attraction?

Speaker 21 (01:41:48):
So over the past few years, esports, the popularity of
esports has exploded. Uh what means of people around the
world involved in these games? What is the popularity of esports?
These multi game of the multiplayer games and competitions, things
like this.

Speaker 42 (01:42:05):
The popularity is being able to do something that you
already love doing, and people are falling in love with
being able to get paid to do exactly what they
love to do. That is where the popularity is coming from.
I mean, they've already been doing it for years, but
now that we're adding the money onto it, now that
we're adding Twitch and YouTube and people are now watching
people play video games for money. It's beyond crazy. And

(01:42:27):
now you're changing not only your life, but your whole
entire family's life. So now people are paying attention to
the world of esports, and then the prize pools are
getting bigger and bigger and bigger every year. Just last
year in the NBA two K League, the prizepitel was
two point two million dollars. So every year the proccool
keeps getting higher and higher, and more students, more adults,

(01:42:48):
more young kids are starting to pay attention, and that's
where the popularity is coming from. You have companies like
Phase Plan who have a whole entire house in California
that these kids live in and they create content from.

Speaker 9 (01:43:00):
Playing video games.

Speaker 42 (01:43:01):
Video games from when whether we're younger, parents and people
around them told them that, hey, you're not gonna do
anything with your life by playing video games. Now they're
proving everybody wrong. Now you see the popularity and where
all these kids twenty three, twenty four, twenty five year
olds are millionaires from playing video games.

Speaker 9 (01:43:19):
So that's where the popularity is coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
All right. First of all, so if people want more information,
if y'all want more information on the Morris Brown esports performance.
As you go to Morris Brown dot edu Morris Brown
dot edu and then you just type in esports performance.
You can take a look at that and if folks
are trying to follow you, who don't make that face.

(01:43:41):
What I was about to say something, gonna say, get
off your chest. I was about to say something, about
to say something, but get it off your chest. I'm
gonna say it for Michael tell what great?

Speaker 9 (01:43:50):
What you guys?

Speaker 42 (01:43:51):
Some follow me on all social media platforms at miss
Basketball one. You can also head on over to my
website at www dot miss basketball one dot com.

Speaker 9 (01:44:00):
Anything else you want to say.

Speaker 42 (01:44:01):
Shout out to all my Morris Brown students, to my
whole entire Morris Brown family, everyone in Atlanta, to my
family in.

Speaker 9 (01:44:07):
Florida and everywhere all over. Shout out to the Grandville's.
Shout out the close in Florida that Roland has no idea.

Speaker 42 (01:44:13):
We're gonna have to bring him the cluist into Belglade,
to Pahokee, to South Bay, to Harlem in Florida, right
under Lake Ocatoby, so he'll know all about them up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
I ain't cheating what I've been pass the hat u
get me to come.

Speaker 9 (01:44:27):
We're gonna get you.

Speaker 42 (01:44:28):
We're gonna we're gonna get you, gonna get you to
come to Morris Brown.

Speaker 9 (01:44:31):
We're gonna get you.

Speaker 42 (01:44:31):
Come the Cloist in Florida, and then we're gonna bring
you over to the NBA two K League so you
can see what it's all about.

Speaker 9 (01:44:38):
And I said that outs. I mean, I can keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
You know, we ain't trying to do all that we got.
We gotta go to the break. We come back. Education
Matters said, we go talk about a program at NASA.
Let's get back to some real stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:44:51):
Oh this is real, don't care.

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Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
We're going to break. Your segment's over. You believe that.

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Speaker 26 (01:46:30):
Magic Johnson was there, so half the NBA was there.
Demon the supermodel for all the supermodels were there every
day after like it was a who who.

Speaker 27 (01:46:38):
Or who who?

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Right here on the frequency in the Black Star network.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
Hello, everyone is.

Speaker 19 (01:46:47):
Pierre shre Hey, I'm Tol, I'm Coco, and I'm Lelee
and av.

Speaker 9 (01:46:52):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 34 (01:46:53):
It's Ryan Destiny and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
NASA has worried nearly twelve million dollars to eight HBCUs
for the new Data Science Equity, Access and Priority in
Research and Education Opportunity. Damn, that's a long title. The
funding will enable HBCU students a faculty to conduct innovative
data science research that contributes to NASA's missions. Tory Johnson,

(01:47:53):
the minority University Research and Education and project manager from NASA,
is here to explain how NASA DEA initiatives work first
and foremost toward let have you man, that's to that long.
We gotta short in that title. But y'all, y'all government
folks come up with some long names.

Speaker 12 (01:48:11):
We like our acronyms at NASA.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Roland, you ain't lying long acroatives, all right? So all right,
so people listen like I don't know what hell what
the hell does all that mean, what are y'all doing?
Break it down, as Joe Madison said, put it what
a ghost can get it.

Speaker 12 (01:48:27):
Certainly, it's good to be with you, Roland.

Speaker 39 (01:48:30):
Really, the essence of what DEAP is all about is
ensuring that this next generation of explorers, our young men
and women at our historically black colleges and universities, have
an opportunity to be part of the process of data science.
And so part of our program at Europe, the Minority

(01:48:51):
University Research and Education Project, we're focused on aiding those
communities underrepresented and underserved and STEM and making sure that
they have a seat at the table as it relates
to this new wave of technology and information research.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
So what is this money going to do specifically for
the students and how many students are you trying to reach?

Speaker 12 (01:49:15):
Yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 39 (01:49:16):
So these awards were just made to the HBCUs that
you mentioned, those similar Bethune Cookman, Fayetteville State, fam U,
Morgan State, North Carolina A and T.

Speaker 12 (01:49:30):
Prayer View in North Carolina Central.

Speaker 39 (01:49:33):
These schools are awarded up to a half a million
dollars a year for three years to build their infrastructure
and institutional capacity and research. So how do they get
stronger on their campus. How do they build up their
labs and their technology so that they can ultimately aid
these students in being successful. They can do this through internships, fellowships,

(01:49:57):
but also getting them engaged in the real hands on
working with our NASA scientists and engineers.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
So go to my iPad, Anthony. So this is the
NASA press release right here. And the different schools are
doing different things. So, for instance, for Bothune Cookman, the
product will establish a DEAP Institute focusing on machine learning
based development of a virtual constellation of satellites that will
capture changing water levels from events such as storm flooding

(01:50:24):
to multi decade time scales such as C level rise.
And then of course there's family of the schools, so
the universities specify what they want the money for, and
that's why the different universes have different areas of emphasis.

Speaker 12 (01:50:41):
Absolutely, that's a great point.

Speaker 39 (01:50:43):
So it's a competitive process whereby we as a federal
agency put out a request for proposals via solicitation, and
so we put this out so that schools, in this case,
minority serving institutions, predominantly blackened institutions and HBCUs are able
to propose how would they respond to the solicitation. And so,

(01:51:07):
as you mentioned Roland, we've got things related to climate impacts,
water research, sea level rise, flood detections, and how to
better prepare ourselves for natural disasters. And so we believe
that the utilization of open data meaning free data resources

(01:51:27):
and teaching and training our colleges and universities on how
to access this data to better equip their communities.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
All right, I don't have much time quick questions from
each panelist. Let's see here. I'll start with, well, you
know she probably oh beg god with the Bowie Kelly, Yes, I.

Speaker 7 (01:51:48):
Went to Bowie.

Speaker 19 (01:51:49):
But I'm looking at the list of HBCUs selected and
I was just wondering what was the criteria for them
in being selected, and are there any plans to expand
that list of HBCUs so that more HBCUs can have
this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Trying to guess the money for huh school boys state?
But go ahead?

Speaker 39 (01:52:11):
Absolutely absolutely so could be a competitive process. We were
looking for schools that would be evaluated on intrinsic merit,
What would be the relevance to NASA, what would be
the management plan that we also are focusing heavily on
partnerships and collaboration.

Speaker 12 (01:52:32):
So who would they be working with, are they bringing
other institutions to.

Speaker 39 (01:52:36):
The table, and ultimately what are they doing for students
And as role I mentioned earlier, looking for those schools
that are looking to either expand their curriculum at that
particular institution, development of laboratories and how many students would
be able to access the information.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Michael, thanks for coming on, toy.

Speaker 22 (01:52:58):
I wanted to know whether some of the different types
of majors that are being looked at that students are
enrolled in now and they're looked at as good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Candidates to become part of this program.

Speaker 39 (01:53:12):
Sure, so we're looking for students. Sometimes it's a focus
on engineering. You might see data analytics. There are a
number of programs out at the various schools, but we
always say STEM right, we start with science, Technology, engineering,
and math and also understanding that there are interdisciplinary studies

(01:53:32):
that students would be working on and so we invite
them all to participate. Those students at those particular HBCUs
that were awarded can obviously check with their with their
faculty and with their professors to see.

Speaker 12 (01:53:46):
How they can get involved.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 18 (01:53:51):
So Tory.

Speaker 39 (01:53:51):
I want to note that Roland wanted you to talk
to the ghosts because he've been doing that since he
was out of Texas.

Speaker 18 (01:53:55):
A and M Here's my question, what happens with the data?

Speaker 17 (01:53:59):
Is that data actually be used by NASA or is
that just data that the students are able to access
and use for research purposes.

Speaker 39 (01:54:08):
It's a both and proposition, so I thank you for
raising that. Initially, what we're trying to do is ensure
that the HBCUs have access to the data. There's free
data that we are downloading from satellites near real time
all over the place, and a lot of times what
the situation is is that institutions are not aware of

(01:54:30):
one that the data is available to them and to
how to access it. And so we're partnering them with
our Science Mission Directorate to make sure that they have
folks aligned with them and then look at those impacts
for their community. So it would also be the research
that they're concerned about at that particular HBCU in their

(01:54:51):
neighboring community.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Christina hey question.

Speaker 9 (01:54:57):
Oh, I have no questions.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
I've been over here listening you about you. Come on,
you got no questions, come on, we got NASA hbcull X,
is there.

Speaker 42 (01:55:06):
A way that we can get in contact with you
guys to figure out the way we can have this
at Morris Brown College because we are in the hard
reset and we're looking for more things like this to
come to our HBC.

Speaker 39 (01:55:17):
So I think what we have to do in a
competitive model is one say, can we share the work
that's being done a by these existing institutions.

Speaker 12 (01:55:26):
And that's yes. We use webinars and other forms.

Speaker 39 (01:55:29):
Even have been going on what we call road tours
to several HBCUs and minority serving institutions around the country
to share what NASA is doing and what we're doing
within the Office of STEM Engagement. So I hope we
can engage with Morris Brown College and share some of
the opportunities and as we see the progress of this
particular project, really have an opportunity to scale it up

(01:55:51):
and maybe have another cohort and invite more institutions to participate.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Toy, what do people going to get more information?

Speaker 39 (01:55:58):
They can check us at dot gov and then you
can look for the Office of Stem Engagement and mirror
m U r E P.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
All right, well, appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (01:56:07):
Thanks so much, Thank you very much. Roland appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Thank you very much. See Christine, help me, Christine, let
me help you out. You've seen it. When you are
three time Hall of Famer, you gotta always be I'm
helping you out. I'm helping you out. All your family
about to text you. You've got to always be ready, Christina.
Even when you're a guest on the show, you got
to always be ready because you might have to hop

(01:56:31):
in and host the show in case. Don't ever ever
say I ain't got no question.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
Well, honestly, I didn't have a question, but I had
a question that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
I always had a question in my heart. You always
have a question.

Speaker 9 (01:56:42):
I gave him a question. Read and I'm here. See
we read the Mores Brown, That's all.

Speaker 14 (01:56:45):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:56:46):
We need more students and stem anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
That you might be teaching these sports, but I'm teaching television.
And Matt whatever hotel you at playing playing your video games.
I know you travel with your wi No, y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:57:06):
Just let them sit up here and throw shade all
day long.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Yes, and you'll come back every week every day we're home.
He and I already got into it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
I don't play video games.

Speaker 9 (01:57:16):
He you know, no, no, no, no, no, no play
video game?

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
No no, do what I think he still got in
a tar ring.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
I'm not looking down when people play video games.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
That boy, that boy got a We don't worry about that,
all right, Kelly, thanks so munch, Matt, thanks a bunch, Michael,
thanks so much.

Speaker 18 (01:57:34):
Girl.

Speaker 9 (01:57:34):
What I want to say something?

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
What we're out of time?

Speaker 9 (01:57:38):
What we're out of time? We're almost out of time?
You want to say, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 42 (01:57:41):
I know we go back and forth, but I truly
appreciate you for having me on your show. I truly
appreciate your your feedback that.

Speaker 9 (01:57:48):
You unsolicitly give. I am so well, you know, so
grateful for you. I'm so grateful to be on your show.

Speaker 42 (01:57:55):
And I'm so grateful for all the things that you
continue to do for not only black culture, but for everybody.
You are a staple in our community. You are a legend,
and I'm so grateful to be on your show. Even
though you drive me up a wall.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
So they don't tell you.

Speaker 7 (01:58:08):
Is who you are?

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
You called me that is who you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
You need some advice, listen and counsel.

Speaker 9 (01:58:13):
Wait a minute, now, no dog, want you two times.

Speaker 14 (01:58:18):
To today.

Speaker 9 (01:58:19):
No today, I ain't call you today. You need to
pull hey anthy go to my hot pad.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
You need to pull the pad. You need to put
the call the call along. I didn't call you that,
Yes you did.

Speaker 42 (01:58:30):
I called you to say I'm on my way to
your show. You see Christina Grandville on the way.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
To see the red to the message. That means you called.

Speaker 38 (01:58:36):
See.

Speaker 9 (01:58:36):
What he don't want to do is get me.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:58:41):
Nice findess have I like no, no, you know my daddy,
I'm gonna behave.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
And you're gonna be nice because you know dog on
well behave your fanly gonna pick me over you. Y'all listen,
we got to go again. I'll be at the holl
University graduation tomorrow. President Joe Biden speaking has been moved
to the Capitol One Arena because of inclement weather. Uh So,
to all of the folks who are graduating, congratulations folks.
I will see y'all on what you.

Speaker 42 (01:59:07):
Want you want to be with me tomorrow. I'm at
Capitol Wan Arena. We're doing the NBA toow no.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Be that and so Lamar Jackson also has a benefit
of tomorrow as well. Dealing with mental health. I'll be
dropping by there as well, so I'll check check out
social media, y'all. I got to go see see see
what happen when Union just invite and try to be
nice of some black people just come in here all
loud and everything. But it's all good.

Speaker 42 (01:59:29):
You cannot deny the energy. I have probably one of
the most energies in the whole On you God, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
Y'all pray for her.

Speaker 9 (01:59:36):
Please keep me in your prayer.

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Hit with the knowing it all over him. I see
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