NY Subway Chokehold Suspect to be Charges, Title 42 Expires, Roland Deconstructs CNN Trump Town Hall

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So this Thursday May eleven, twenty twenty three, coming up
my Roland Martin Anna Filcher streaming live on the Black
Star Network. The white marine who killed the black man
on the subway into New York City, he is going
to be arrested for manslaughter. Will give you the latest
on that case. Out of New York City. Title forty
two is going to be ending soon, and the Body

(00:22):
Administration is announcing what it is going to do about
migrants trying to come into the country. Republicans are all
up in arms. The Body Administration says they have a
plan to deal.

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Speaker 1 (02:00):
All right, folks like audio issue there today is Thursday
May elevel, twenty twenty three, coming up on rold Bark unfiltered,
streaming live on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
The white marine who killed the black.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Man on the subway in New York City is going
to be arrested for manslaughter. To get the latest out
of the City of New York. Also, title forty two
is ending. The Body Administration explains what they're going to
do about migris trying to come into the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well talked to a guest about that as well.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Also on today's show, CNN air a debacle last night,
allowing in narcissistic line, sexually assaultingt tax cheating thug to
lie repeatedly on the air. I will break down and
deconstruct that shameful journalistic what you want to call it.
That displayment took place last night, and Alabama has a

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racist representing them in the United States Senate Tommy Temberville.

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He says, no problem.

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If you're white supremacist, sure you can serve with the
military because you're an American and a Republican. It's time
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Speaker 1 (04:49):
Title forty two, which did which was a COVID related
procedure that allowed the White House administration to determine who
could come in and out of the country, is gonna
be ending very soon. The Body administration has taken their precautions.
The Secretary of Homeland Security spoke today about what that means.

Speaker 11 (05:09):
Tonight, at eleven fifty nine pm Eastern Time, the pandemic
era Title forty two Public Health Order will end starting
at midnight. People who arrive at our southern border will
be subject to our immigration enforcement authorities under Title eight
of the United States Code.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Here is what that means.

Speaker 11 (05:29):
If anyone arrives at our southern border after midnight tonight,
they will be presumed ineligible for asylum and subject to
steeper consequences for unlawful entry, including a minimum five year
ban on re entry and potential criminal prosecution.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And now Republicans they are blaming President Joe Biden, saying
he is causing this massive migrant crisis. Do you also have,
of course, Republican governors like Greg Abbita, Texas, who ship
seventeen thousand migrants two various cities in Sanxubary cities, including Chicago,
New York, Philadelphia as well as.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Joining us from Ladnay Joseph, an immigrant rights activist, glad
to have been on the show. So Tonay first and
foremost of the folks who don't understand policies and different procedures,
so explain Title forty two and it ending in a
few hours.

Speaker 12 (06:25):
Sure, So, Title forty two is actually a very archaic policy.
It dates back to nineteen forty four. It allows the
United States government to be able to quickly expel migrants
citing a public health crisis like that of COVID nineteen
that we most recently experience in are still experiencing. So,
for instance, if someone came to the United States, and

(06:48):
even if they had a very valid claim to be
able to seek asylum, the United States would deny them
their constitutional right and their fundamental human rights in being
able to seek asylum simply because they are deemed to
be a public health condition and would violate the public
health of those in the United States and would use
that as a reason to quickly expel them from the country.

(07:10):
So we have examples of individuals just come into the
United States for a few hours and being expelled without
US having any evidence that they were granted their due
process in order to seek their very viable asylum claims.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, so you got people coming from all from different countries,
some that have been traveling for months.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
So what is expected to happen now.

Speaker 12 (07:34):
So what's expected to happen now is remember a lot
of individuals have been stuck in Mexico for months and years,
and so under Title forty two, as started in March
twenty twenty by the former twice impeach President Libel president
indicted president, we saw that he utilized that as a
very problematic and inhumane deportation policy for immigrants. It became

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nothing about public health because, as we saw, we have
individuals coming from Ukraine without incident, we have individuals who
are board in military planes from Afghanistan without incident, and
yet Title forty two was not cited for those individuals
who were granted refugee status in the United States. So
now what we're now allowing consideration for is for the Haitians,

(08:22):
the Mexican the individuals who are coming from Venezuela, Nicaragua,
Cuba to be considered for their rightful asylum claims. And
now they're going to be granted that process to do so. However,
as you just heard the Secretary of Homeland Security say,
this is going to be far from a cakewalk. Right,
We are criminalized in individuals who have viable claims for asylum.

(08:44):
These are individuals who are flee in poverty, political instability,
and literally have the right to do so. But now
we're criminalizing them and saying that they should be subject
to five year bands, meaning that they would not be
able to present themselves for asylum claims until five years
from now. And they're going to be granted harsher penalties
simply because they dare to grant themselves and their family

(09:06):
members of better life.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
All right, folks, you're not sure what's going on with
the microphones, but we're working through it, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
So here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You got Republicans and many other people who are saying
that this is a travesty. We have this massive crisis
in this country. Do we really have a crisis in
this country.

Speaker 12 (09:58):
We do not have a crisis in this country. Let's
be absolutely clear. Right, Asylum is a human right. Asylum
is a right that's permitted by the United States of
America for the past three years, since March twenty twenty.
We have denied individuals coming from across the world of

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their fundamental human right to seek asylum. This is not
an emergency, This is not a crisis. This is us
dealing with something that would have happened regardless if not
for the former twice impeached president of the United States
using this as immigration policy. These individuals came anywhere. Bear

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in mind that when this policy was titled Title forty
two was cited, it was meant to be a deterrence, right.
It was meant to stop people from coming to the country.
And so even though there is record of one point
five million people being expelled from the country, there's two
point five million in times in which Title forty two

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was enacted in order to expel people.

Speaker 13 (11:05):
Do you know what that means.

Speaker 12 (11:06):
That means that these are the same individuals who came
back multiple times in order to try to get their
asylum cases heard. This isn't a crisis. This is just
the Biden administration now having to deal with something that
has been happening any way. It's just now they're going
to utilize this as an excuse. And in fact, if
there is anyone to blame for this backlog, because that's

(11:29):
exactly what it is. It's just a backlog of existing
cases that would have happened anyway. This is now just
allowing the Biden administration to be able to deal with
these matters anyway, because the vast majority of the United
States and the people who are here in the United
States have valid claims for asylum. These are people who
are struggling. These are individuals who are fleeing the violence

(11:52):
in their country. These are people who are fleeing the poverty.
Look at Venezuela in their country. These are individuals coming
from Heiiti, fleeing the pal instability given the fact that
their president was recently assassinated. Moise right. So this is
a public health crisis. This is in a national state
of emergency. This is just us having to deal with

(12:14):
the existing individuals who have very viable claims for asylum.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Do you think, Joseph, We certain appreciate it. Thanks a lot, folks,
Thank you very much. We come back and we'll talk
about this with our panel and break down on the
news of the day. You're watching rollerd Button Unfiltered here
on the Black stud Network.

Speaker 14 (12:34):
Hatred on the Streets, a horrific scene white nationalist rally
that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
White people are losing their their minds.

Speaker 15 (12:47):
As a mangry pro Trump mod storms the US capital
reco We're about to see.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The lives where I call white minority resistance.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate a lot of folks voting.

Speaker 16 (13:01):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 12 (13:06):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 17 (13:07):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carol Anderson, every
university calls white rage as.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
A backlash is the right of the proud boys and
the Boogaaloo boys America.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
God, this country just getting increasingly racist and its behaviors
and its attitudes because of the fear of white.

Speaker 18 (13:32):
People, the food, that they're taking our job, they're taking
our resources, they're taking our women.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
This is white Field.

Speaker 19 (13:54):
That was a pivotal, pivotal time and Lily Kevin Kevin
Hart telling.

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Me that.

Speaker 20 (14:01):
He's like, man, what you doing?

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Man?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You got to stay on stage?

Speaker 21 (14:04):
And I was like a man, I like, you know,
I'm thinking Bart I'm good, and he was absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
But what show was jail at that?

Speaker 21 (14:12):
This was one on one during that time, and that
was show.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
You show you don't one on one going great, you're
making money.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
You're like, I'm like, I don't need to leave.

Speaker 21 (14:22):
I don't need to leave from you know, Wednesday, Thursday
to Sunday.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You know, I just didn't want to do that.

Speaker 20 (14:26):
You know, it's just like I'm gonna stay here or
I didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out, go
do a gig Saturday Sunday.

Speaker 21 (14:33):
I was just like, I don't have to do that,
and I lost a little bit of that hunger.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That I had.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
In New York.

Speaker 20 (14:39):
I would hit all the clubs, run around, you know,
sometimes be in Chappelle or be in this one or
that one, go to the comedy cellar one in the morning,
and I mean that was our life and we loved it.
You know, you do two shows in Manhattan, go to Brooklyn,
leave Brooklyn, go to Queens, go to Jersey, and I
kind of just I got complacent. I got this money

(15:01):
out good, I don't need to go. I don't need
to go chase that because that money wasn't at the
same level when I was making But what I was
missing was that training.

Speaker 22 (15:10):
Yes, that was that.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And it wasn't the money.

Speaker 21 (15:12):
It was the money, you know, it was that. That's
what I needed.

Speaker 23 (15:29):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Kall, we
look at one of the most influential and prominent Black
Americans of the twentieth century. His work literally changed the world.
Among other things, he played a major role in creating
the United Nations. He was the first African American and
first person of color to win the Nobel Peace Prize,

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and yet today he is hardly a household with name.

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We're talking, of course, about Ralph J.

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A new book refers to him as the absolutely indispensable man.

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His lifelong interest and passion in racial justice, specifically in
the form of colonialism, and he saw his work as
an activist an advocate for the black community here in
the United States as just the other side of the
coin of his work trying to roll back European Empire

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and Africa.

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Author cal Rastilla will join us to share his incredible story.
That's on the next Black Table here on the Black
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Speaker 1 (16:56):
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Speaker 3 (17:11):
All right, glad to have y'all here.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So here's the thing here, reci and that is Republicans
are making as if there's this oh my god, the
border there, it is.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Out of control.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
They're flowing in by the millions, and this is just
causing all of these problems in America, as if we
actually don't have an immigration system that this literally has
been happening every day for decades in the United States.

Speaker 26 (17:44):
Yeah, I mean Republicans have been one of the primary
impediments of actually getting meaningful immretion reform, particularly the Republicans
in Congress, because on a bipartisan basis, I won't give
Donald Trump any credit, there has been an appetite from
presidents on both sides of the eye to actually fix
the obviously badly decaying immigration system. The reality though, is

(18:07):
that even with the obstruction from the Republicans in Congress,
Biden Harris administration has found a way to get some
of the border crossings and all the other stuff down
by implementing technology, creating an app where people can actually
apply for a resylum there, particularly for people from Nicudagua Haiti,
and I forget the other country, I want to say,

(18:28):
Ol Salvador. And so you know, immigration is just one
of those topics where you're never going to really win
in this environment because there's a lot of xenophobia, there's
a lot of fear stoking that's involved. But I'm a
lot more concerned about the fact that we've had more
mass shootings in this country than days of the year,
and the fact that we are at a point now

(18:48):
where we have so many mass shootings in one day
that it's about whichever one has the most number of
fatalities or hits the news first, that we end up
even talking about for longer than three hours. And so
we have pressing issues in this and if we would
actually be logical about the immigration instead of hysterical, I
think we'd get more done. And the last thing, I
just want to say is that the number one problem

(19:08):
in immigration is not people crossing the border, are people
seeking asylum. It's people overstaring their visas. But those folks
don't look like black and brown people that the boogeyman
and the migrant caravans, and so their shoulders shrugging at
that particular problem.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Lee when you see governors like Greg Abbott and others
Rawn de Santis flying migrants off to other different cities saying, oh,
it's now your problem dropping them off at the Vice
President's house in Washington, d C. I mean those are
all of photo ops. Is all about history ontics by

(19:43):
these conservatives.

Speaker 27 (19:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (19:45):
Man, it's ridiculous really, you know, it has nothing to
do with public policy. It has nothing to do with fixing,
in their mind, a broken immigration system.

Speaker 29 (19:57):
It has to do with.

Speaker 28 (20:00):
Cool gamesmanship, right, who can get the one up? And
and it's really ridiculous if we if we call ourselves
a nation for you know, of compassion, the nation of love,
I guess you would say how we are dealing and
addressing this immigration system from a political standpoint looks nothing

(20:22):
like what we say on paper.

Speaker 29 (20:23):
And we know the history of this nation is.

Speaker 28 (20:25):
That what we say we believe, you know, on paper, uh,
and our Constitution, in our Bill of Rights, and all
these things that we say we hold high.

Speaker 29 (20:37):
We very rarely hate to say it, but we very
really stand up to that.

Speaker 28 (20:42):
You know, look, I look at it as a Christian pastor,
you know, I look at it as how we truly
loving our neighbor. Right, you know, how we in a
very practical way through public policy, loving our neighbor. And
if you look at what Jesus said in terms of
loving our neighbor, the example he gave us a good Samaritan, right,
the Samaritan and the jew they weren't friends, they didn't

(21:03):
have common backgrounds, common histories. But yet when the Jewish
man was in need, the Samaritan showed up. When his
own Jewish brothers wouldn't even help him, he was broke,
busted and discussed on the side of the road. And
so you look at how we're dealing with our brothers, right,
who don't share the same kind of background and history
and story, may not even look the way that we

(21:25):
look or talk the same language. How we addressing that?
And for me, I'm like, you know that that shouldn't
be a partisan kind of thing. So for people who
claim the faith that I hold high, the Christian faith,
if you want to put it forward, and all these
other public policy kind of things.

Speaker 29 (21:44):
How was that showing up in your immigration policy.

Speaker 28 (21:47):
Putting somebody on a bus, lying to them in one
city and saying you're taking them someplace, but then dropping
them off in Washington, DC or at another state is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, look, here's a deal, Lauren. We always know, we know,
we got these fake, hypocritical US so called Christians on
the conservative side, so we know exactly how that how
that goes. But you also have their folks here, the
black community of people who are who are anti immigrant,
who claim that that is significantly hurting African Americans. But again,

(22:17):
the point I keep making is we've always had immigration,
and so this notion that somehow we've never had it,
we have.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
We've always had this.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
There are people who who we have laws that allow
people to claim asylum for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
You have to have a process.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
This notion that you could just shut everything off, that's
just unrealistic.

Speaker 30 (22:39):
Yeah, we've always had it, but we haven't had it
as the political football as we have it today. And
really social media and a lot of other things allow
us to sort of send these images of everybody across
the border, this and that. That's sort of the new
part that we haven't had. Also, I think the Democratic
Party is confused on this issue. I think that they're
listening to James Carvila trying to go after the white
model voter on this issue. You saw how tough Baracco.

(23:04):
President Obama was on immigration, He deported a record number
of people. I feel like what we're going to see
from President Biden is something very similar to that.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
I think he's going to try to prove that he can,
you know, throw people out of the country really fast.

Speaker 30 (23:17):
And you know, facts and the details of who seeks
asylum to the United States really don't seem to matter
to anybody in these debates. Mostly I think the asylum
seekers are coming from the Middle East, or most of
the applications are coming from the Middle East. But we're
always talking about Mexico like all the time, And obviously
that's about race, that's about the fact that they've become
a political football, and the Republican Party is leaning really

(23:40):
heavily into all sorts of issues around that. I think
it was yesterday the Governor of Virginia, Glenn Youngkin did
a fentanyl event. It was like fentanyl day, a fentanyl
overdose day or something. So there's a whole big political
reason obviously that Mexican immigrants in particularly have been made
into a football and that's where we are on this front.

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And Teresi's point, the Republican Party has no policy around this.
Every time somebody tries to actually do some detailed policy
specific to the Mexican border, the Republicans don't want that
because they want it as a political issue.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
A hotel. One second, when we come back, we're going
to talk about the shooting in Allen, Texas. Funerals are
being planned, being held, but also the survivors are also
dealing with the aftermath of that as well.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
We'll discuss that next.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And of course Alabama dealing with a racist US senator
in the name of Tommy Tuberbill will talk about his
comments where he is more than welcoming of white supremacists
in the US military. Plus we'll talk about that debacle
of a towel hall on CNN last night. What an
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Jacob Latimore and you're now watching Roland Martin right now,
family and friends and Alan Texas are preparing funerals for
the seven people who were killed by the white supremacist
who took them out at that mold of Folks on
Saturn Day. But it's not just those who are in

(26:41):
pain of those who lost loved ones, you also have
those who were wounded. Eight people were wounded by that murderer,
including Irvin Walker, the second who's member of Alpha BA
Alpha Returnedy Incorporated. He was one of the first victims
to be shot. He was driving past the shooter's car
when he was shot three times in the chest. Joining
me now is his attorney, Darryl O. K. Washington. Darryll,

(27:03):
you're representing Irvin Walker, So what is the status of
his condition?

Speaker 22 (27:09):
Roland.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Just as early as today, Ervin had another procedure done,
So it's been a day by day situation. Unfortunately, UH,
with the injuries that Urban sustained and with some of
the bullet shots, it's just been very difficult to remove
all the bullet fragments. So this is something that's going
to stick with Urban for the rest of his life.

(27:31):
And I tell you, man, he has been an extremely
positive person, very uplifting. You go to the house Bigo,
you know, feeling bad for Irving, but he's still being
his same self man, trying to uplift people. But it's
definitely was a life changing situation for him.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
What I mean, Obviously the shooter was killed by authorities,
but what assistance are the folks of the mall offering
Irvan and other folks who were wounded.

Speaker 31 (28:00):
We have not heard back from the mall at all Roland,
you know, and.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
That's why I came into it. I have been investigating
the situation. There are a number of things that are
very concerning to us, one being the fact that all
we've heard about thus far was the fact that one
security guard was killed. Well, I have not heard about
there being other security guards on the premises, which is
very concerning because you know, on the Saturday there there

(28:25):
are thousands of people who are at that shopping center,
so we would hope that there were at least at
least five to ten security officers who are out at
the scene.

Speaker 29 (28:35):
Another thing that's very concerning is the guy who was shot.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
We've heard now that he had up to eight guns
in his vehicle, and what they're reporting is that the
guns that he had in his vehicle were all legally purchased.

Speaker 22 (28:50):
Now here's the problem with that.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
We know that this guy was kicked out of the
military after being in for less than three months. They
say that this guy had mental health issues. Our biggest
concern is when an individual was kicked out of the military,
the government has report and requirements that they are required
to do, and we want to see why somebody like this,
somebody who was diagnosed was having serious mental issues, was

(29:15):
able to have access to an EIRR fifteen and other guns.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So and obviously you have Texas Governor Greg Abbott. He's
spending more time commenting about the border than he is
this shooting.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Yeah, that's you know, the first thing that Greg Abbot
said about this shooting rolland was that it was mental health.

Speaker 29 (29:37):
You know, you can go back to every clip of
when we've.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
Had some type of mass shooting here in Texas and
throughout the country. Greg Abbott has always been quick to
label this as a mental health crisis. But what has
he done about mental health? Absolutely nothing. What we knowed Roland,
this guy was an evil person that had easy access
to guns because of how our governor has made it

(30:02):
easy for people to have access to guns. We clearly
have a gun control issue, and I think unless we
get these things under control, it's going to continue to happen.
And just raising the age to twenty one is not
the answer.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
All right, Daryl, I'll watch it. People want to assist
Urban Walker, how can they do?

Speaker 31 (30:23):
So? Two things, Roland.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
One of the things I want to ask people to
do is continue to pray for Irving because he's definitely
felt the prayers and support that he's received from everyone.
And there's also a gofund me account that's been established
by his fraternity to Brothers Alpha fai Ou so Irving.
We know that it's going to be a long road
to recovery, and they're going to be quite some time

(30:47):
for Irving to get back to work.

Speaker 29 (30:49):
I mean, this is something that.

Speaker 22 (30:50):
He's dealing with.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
It's not only physical pain but mental pain. So we're
asking people to dig deep inside and do all they
can to support Irving as he recovers.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
All right, Then turning Darrel Washington, well, surely appreciate it,
and so give my brother Walk our best.

Speaker 29 (31:05):
I will thank you, Roland, thanks a bunch, Lauren.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
The point that he makes there again, Greg Abbitt immediately
went to mental health, but the same Greg Abbat who
cut two hundred eleven million dollars from mental health. Republicans
yell out mental health, but they voted against a bill
to add money for mental health in Congress. Again, so
it's like you're saying one thing, but you're actually doing another.

Speaker 29 (31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (31:26):
Their strategy on guns is basically to just sort of
wait until the media moves on to another subject and
hope that another shooting doesn't happen. That they have to
explain because of course they have no policy explanation whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
You know, the bigger question, and you touched on a
little bit. Their roland is who's liable for this?

Speaker 30 (31:45):
Legally, because of course the gun manufacturers cannot be sued,
And so if someone buys a gun that has some
mental health issue and somehow that doesn't get uncovered when
the gun is sold to them, one would think maybe
that the gun unseller is liable. But ultimately, because the
public policy around the gun issue is completely failing right

(32:07):
now in terms of any real change, these things are
happening and people are getting murdered and then there's no
liability on anybody, and that has become a huge issue
around this issue right now.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh well, Lee, we saw in Tennessee where after that shooting,
Republicans immediately move to provide immunity the gun manufacturers after
a shooting.

Speaker 27 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (32:32):
Man, it's the craziest thing, man. And here's the reality man,
you know, the governor and really it's the Republican talking point,
you know when I'm on here, Yeah, I used to
be in political office. I ran as a Democrat, I
served as a Democrat. But a lot of these issues, man,
are not Democrat or Republican. They're just basic humanity issues, right.

(32:53):
And the reality is, man, this nation is steeked in violence.
The very found foundation the forming of this nation was
through violence, and all throughout the course of this history,
of our history, it's been violence.

Speaker 29 (33:07):
Man.

Speaker 28 (33:08):
This is mental health Awareness month, and my wife, Robin May,
is a mental health therapist.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Man.

Speaker 28 (33:13):
And the reality is, man, this nation is suffering from
the trauma and drama of this violence propensity that we
have here. And so when they throw out things like
mental health, man, that's a scapegoat.

Speaker 29 (33:25):
That's just the reality is.

Speaker 28 (33:28):
They are refusing to do anything around public policy to
really diminish the fact that if somebody does get a
gun and they and they go off and do something
crazy like a mass shooting.

Speaker 29 (33:41):
Why do we need akas in people's hands? Ar fifteen?

Speaker 28 (33:44):
Why need Why do people need that in their hands
to go around and man? Until we can take this
from a real humanity standpoint and really address the reality
that this nation's history is steeped in violence, and until you.

Speaker 29 (33:57):
Begin to build up.

Speaker 28 (33:58):
See, you create laws, and I'll go off for a
while on this, but you create laws not for the
people who abide by the laws, but for the people
who gonna break the laws. Even if that's a minority,
the minority can do a lot to hurt and harm
the majority. And so I'm gonna say this one scripture
because I'm a Christian pastor right Philippians, Chapter two, verse

(34:19):
three says, do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain
concit but value.

Speaker 29 (34:25):
Others higher than yourselves.

Speaker 28 (34:27):
Man, all these people want to keep guns to say,
don't touch my guns.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
Man.

Speaker 28 (34:31):
If again, going back, if you call yourself a Christian,
what about the people that are affected by these rash
of mass shootings because of this gun line?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
So here's a deal, recis So if they say is
all of them it's all of my mental illness.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Where are the rash of mental ill bills?

Speaker 26 (34:49):
Well, they could say whatever they want to say, because
who going to check them. The bottom line is in Texas,
you know, abbit overwhelmingly one, even though Texas is the
mass shooting capital of the country that had some of
the largest mass shootings in history or and even in
the recent decade, and so the Republicans have found that
there is no amount of carnage that that is going

(35:12):
to turn the American voting public away from that party
and enact consequences.

Speaker 32 (35:19):
This was a huge issue.

Speaker 26 (35:20):
I mean, even before the midterms, we had Buffalo, we
had Uvaldi, and we still saw Republicans take back the House.

Speaker 32 (35:27):
They didn't win every Senate seat that they needed to win.

Speaker 26 (35:30):
However, the governors still mostly maintained the incombinant. Governors mostly
maintained their advantage, and so there's no political price for
them to pay when.

Speaker 32 (35:39):
It comes to voters.

Speaker 26 (35:41):
And as long as people continue to sit on the
sidelines and a moan and complain about whatever little gripe
they have the Democratic Party, the Republicans are going to be.

Speaker 32 (35:51):
Able to obstruct any kind of progress on this issue.

Speaker 26 (35:53):
And people are going to continue to die in mass,
at grocery stores, churches, you name it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
But that's also why I say, for the people who
want to see changes, guess what you have to completely
vote all of them out.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
That's what it boils down to.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I mean, so, folks, again, complaining about think something is
one thing, but actually using your power and EVICTID from
office is a whole other thing. All right, folks going
to break we come back. Tommy Tuberville US Center for
Badlabama truly one of the dumbest people that's ever served
in Congress, and that's saying the.

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(39:52):
have heard me say the Republican Party is the party
of white supremacy. It is the party of racist It's
the party that KKK supports. It's the party that Neil
Zazi support.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Well, guess to.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Make that perfectly clear that he's fine with that is
Alabama Senator Tommy Tubberville. He gave talking to a radio
station in Alabama, and this idiot actually said this, We're.

Speaker 27 (40:14):
Showing our adversary we're weak. All we got to do
is go back and look at Joe Biden's what he's
done to our military with the woke ideas, with the
CRT that we're teaching in our military. We are losing
in the military so fast our readiness in terms of recruitment.
And why, I tell you why, because the Democrats are

(40:34):
attacking our military, So we need to get out to
the white extreamists, the white nationalists, people that don't believe
in our agenda as Joe Biden agenda, they are destroying it.
This year, we will not reach any recruiting goals in
the military. So if we want to talk about looking weak,
that's where we're going to look weak. We cannot start
putting rules in there for one type, one group and

(40:58):
make different factions military, because that is the most important
institution in United States of America and our allies is
a strong, hardened nose killing machine, which is called our military.

Speaker 15 (41:13):
You mentioned the Biden administration trying to prevent white nationalists
from being in the military.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Do you believe they should allow white nationalists in the military.

Speaker 27 (41:25):
Well, they call them that, I call them Americans. What
happened after January the sixth, and I was here on
January the sixth, we were attacked on the Senate floor
saying that all these people that came into the capital
were extremists, they were against the country. There was a
lot of people, there was probably a hundred of them
that came in broke winners and broke doors that should

(41:45):
been locked up that's not how we do it in America.
But there were hundreds of thousands that didn't come in
outside that were true Americans that believe in this country.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I call white supremacists Americans. Well, that is true.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
It is very American to be a white supremacist. It's
very much to be a white American to be a
white supremacist. That's the history of his country. Those Confederate
soldiers were white domestic terrorists. They were white supremacist. So
we've always had that. During Jim Crow, they were white supremacist.

(42:30):
What's interesting, what people don't understand is that Tumberville has
been attacking the black Secretary of Defense, General Lloyd Austin,
a man who has warn of the military, who is
a four star general. Turberville, I think the only thing
he's ever worn is a head coach's cap. That's all
he's ever worn or done. So he's been attacking Austin

(42:54):
in the Pentagon by saying that, oh, they are teaching woke,
they're teaching CRT.

Speaker 24 (42:59):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Actually, what they're teaching they're trying to get rid of
the racists.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Tumberville literally questioned.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Whether they've been white supremacists in the Nited States military folks,
there have been hearings on that. There have been numerous
reports on that from the media organizations that cover the military,
talking about the problem of white supremacy in the Army,
in the Marines, in all of the different branches of

(43:31):
the military. The US military also bans communist So here
you have a city US senator from racist Alabama who said, oh,
they're Americans, they support Republicans.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
He literally is throwing his.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Arms around white supremacists and it's saying, no, we really
need them in our military. Who Alabama sent to the
Senate over Doug Jones Lauren, Uh.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, he's a coach.

Speaker 29 (44:11):
You know.

Speaker 30 (44:12):
Just as a personal note, I appreciated the part in
there where he said it was just one hundred people
who came into the Capitol. My boyfriend and his friends
escorted his scared ass over into the heart building when
the attack on the Capitol happened. And so Tommy Tumberville
running his mouth and you're right, rolland he's coach.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
He's a coach.

Speaker 29 (44:31):
That's just what he is.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
He has no idea what he's talking about. CRT woke.

Speaker 30 (44:35):
He's just throwing out the buzzwords, throwing out the red
meat and has no idea what he's talking about from
a policy standpoint. It was absolutely no detailing what he said,
And I don't know why anybody should be surprised at
what he said. Donald Trump, the Tea Party, the people,
the actors who showed up right after Barack Obama was
elected have made open racism fashionable once again. You know,

(44:58):
it used to be the people were embarrassed to say
these things out loud and in public. Now it's just
sort of being said and nobody's checking them. And like,
I'm not any longer surprised that people like Tuberville. The
part that really I think we should look at closely
is the fact that there's absolutely no reaction to what
he said from anybody in the Republican Party. Absolutely no reaction.

(45:18):
The reaction we get is from the Democratic side. The
Republicans are completely comfortable with racism. They're completely comfortable with
outward racism, with people knowing that they're racist, with in
fact signaling to certain voters and supporters that that is
what the plan, and that is what the that is
what the brand is.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
So this is the brand of the Republican Party. They're
proud of it.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
They're open and here we are I mean racy. It's
no lot.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
After the shooting in Buffalo, the Republican Party voted against
voting against a resolution Congressman Jamal Bowman dealing with the
issue of white supremacy.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
What Lauren said is right.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
The Republican Party, that's their supporters, who they want, who
they desire, are racist and they are not going to
call them out. Donald Trump did not want to call
out racist because he knew they were voting for him.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
The KKK endorsed him.

Speaker 32 (46:17):
Well, Donald Trump is also racist.

Speaker 26 (46:19):
So it's a lot easier to cal taw to the
white nationalists, white supremacist crowd when you are one yourself.

Speaker 24 (46:26):
And why not.

Speaker 32 (46:28):
You know this is what gets their base gended up.

Speaker 26 (46:31):
And they know that they can put out a couple
of memes and put out some disinformation and dissuade enough voters,
or they believe at least that they can dissuade enough
voters of every ethnicity, not just black people but also
Latinos who are very much targeted by disinformation campaigns and
fear mongering about communism and socialism and a number of
other things.

Speaker 32 (46:50):
And they can just be out in and open with
their destruction.

Speaker 26 (46:55):
But the reality is that the white supremacy of the
Republican Party is also a war on white people. Unfortunately, though,
the white people that should be rising up against it,
because what the Republican Party is doing is it's eliminating
things that make them have food security, that allow them
to have thirty five dollars insulin, that allow them to

(47:17):
have roads and broadband and a number of other things.
They're right along with it because they get their rocks
soft with all this racist rhetoric. So this is to
be expected because there are no consequences for it, and
so there are consequences for it, and as long as
they are being rewarded for it, this is what we're
going to continue to see more and more brazenly.

Speaker 29 (47:37):
Lee.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
This was last year.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
This is from Vice all two hundred and eight House
Republicans Thumber noses at an amendment to a bill that
would order the government to investigate white supremacists and neo
Nazi activity in the military and federal law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
So this is not just TM tubovial.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
This is the higher Republican House and they're the folks
who now control the House.

Speaker 28 (48:07):
And man, it's just it's just so disheartening, man, because
this is ignorance flourishing. This is let's be clear, this
is evil flourishing. You know, because what you're saying, Tommy,
is that, uh, that that black folk, the people of
color are less than You're saying we're not made in

(48:27):
the image of God. You're saying it's okay to have
a military that's fully, that's full you know that that
had that's recruiting and people are joining, even if it
means us putting white supremacists in really for your own
political power, if you if you listen to what he said.
Also in that quote, he says that we are no

(48:49):
longer basically having a killing machine called the military.

Speaker 29 (48:54):
Remember I talked about the violence in this nation.

Speaker 28 (48:57):
I mean, you know our military, is that what we're
trying to build a killing machine that answers?

Speaker 29 (49:03):
Yes, that's what they are.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly that's exactly what they want. Yeah,
that's what they want.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
That's all they want. They want to be able to
dispatch the military wherever they go. Now you have people
like Andy Biggs, a racist in the House right now Arizona,
who said that with this bill, we're creating problems that
do not exist.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
That's interesting. Go to my iPad, Henry.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
This is the Pentagon released a report, y'all, Pentagon reveals
in roads white supremacists have made in military.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
HMM.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
A soldier in the Florida National Guard who co founded
a murderous fascist group was chatting with a fellow white
supremacist in the extremeist Iron March online form in twenty
sixteen when the Guard member made a remarkable statement. The
Guard member said he felt free to be a neo
Nazi in the US army.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
That's the deal. The Pentagon makes.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Clear that there are neo Nazis and white supremacists in
the military. We know for a fact that there are
neo Nazis and white supremacists proud boy members in law
enforcement in this country, and the Republican Party has made
it clear we are perfectly fine with those racists in

(50:24):
law enforcement and the military. So anytime you have these
black conservatives who come here and say, hey, vote for Trump,
what they're saying is vote for the people who love
and endorse white supremacists and neo Nazis and who do
not want them removed because they literally voted against this

(50:46):
very bill, and they can't deny it because they did it.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
They did it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
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On the next Get Wealthy with me Deborah Owens, America's
well coach. Nurses are the backbone of the healthcare industry,
and yet only seven percent of them are black. What's
the reason for that low number, Well, a lack of
opportunities and growth in their profession.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Joining us on the next Get Wealthy is Needy Barnanilla.

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She's gonna be sharing exactly what nurses need to do
and what approach they need to take to take ownership
of their success.

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So the Blackness Collaborative really spawned from a place and
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of us in a profession to also look and reach
back and they kind and create pipelines and opportunities for
other nurses like us.

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Speaker 1 (52:45):
A former Louiville Metro Police Department officer has played guilty
to violating individual's rights by using excessive force while acting
as a police officer. Richard ross We confessed to deploying
a foam round from his forty millie le meter direct
impact munition into a group of protesters after a bottle
was thrown from the back of the crowd on May thirty,

(53:06):
twenty twenty of course, who were protesting the shooting death
of Brion. The tailor of the round hit someone's face
in front of the crowd. We admitted he had not
identified who threw the bottle and was aiming his weapon
at peaceful protesters. He pled guilty to one misdemeanor account
of using unreasonable force. His guilty plead cares the maximum
fine one hundred thousand dollars. As part of the plea agreement,

(53:27):
if the court accepts it, we will forfeit his Kentucky
Law Enforcements certification and agree not to seek any future
law enforcement in ployment. That should be mandatory in all
of these cases, Lauren.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
It should be, but it is not.

Speaker 30 (53:44):
And of course, as we know, police have a great
deal of latitude around almost everything that they do.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
And I'm surprised that there was actually action taken in
this case.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Well, unfortunately, we've seen this all the time.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
Again.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
These people are protesting the death there of Breonna Taylor.
Now former Minneapolis police officers guilty plea to assaulting a
man on the twenty twenty George Floyd's Floyd Protests guarantees
that he'll never work as a law enforcement officer again.
Justin Statson pled guilty to third degree assault and misconduct
of a police officer in exchange for his police that's

(54:19):
incentives will be stayed for two years, pending several conditions,
including he never seeks work as a police officer again.
Stetson acknowledge his role in repeatedly punching, kicking, and kneeling,
kneeing J. Jalil Stallings in the head and faced while
on the ground. During this May incident, Statson and other
officers were enforcing the curfew when they saw four people

(54:40):
in a parking lot. One was Stallings, an army veteran
with a gun permit. The officers opened fire, with rubber bullets,
hitting Stallings in the chest. Stalling's fired three shots of
the officers unmarked van, but didn't hurt anyone. He believed
civilians attacked him, so he fired back in self defense.
When Stalling realized that were cops, he put the gun
down and surrendered. Stalling suffered a fractured eye socket. He

(55:00):
found an objection with the court calling sentence deal to
Ling it saying it fails to hold Hm accountable by
not sending him to prison.

Speaker 24 (55:11):
A good reason.

Speaker 40 (55:12):
Paul, Truthfully, I saw this as an opportunity to rebuild
trust between both the law enforcement community and the civilian community,
and I didn't see that that happening. I felt like
I was held to a higher level accountability that anybody
else involved in the incident. As of today, I will
have and have served more days in jail as a

(55:33):
direct result of the incident than any of the other
involved parties. And I'm the innocent party as well as
there's a bunch of different things. I feel like this
doesn't deter any other officers who may not take their
own seriously from following office slips and not living by
their oath in the law, because I feel like this

(55:57):
is pretty much just a slack on the wrist. And
it also puts the public in our communities in a
situation where they may feel like justice system doesn't have
their back. If something happens to me, They're just going
to let this guydwalk free and they don't really take
it seriously.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
So Stallings was charged and acquitted.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
The sid of Inneapolis also paid Stallings a one point
five million dollars settlement last year. Lee, I think this
is a pretty good idea. Every time you have one
of these cases, Uh, these dation make it apart. If
these cops no longer get to be a cop again
and again, this is this is what happens when people protest,
when you fight for social justice, because we're finally seeing

(56:39):
cops held accountable for the shameful behavior.

Speaker 28 (56:43):
Absolutely, man, whenever you can see an officer have some
level of accountability. Again, just like Jillette just mentioned and
meant it for me, it didn't go far enough, but
at least you're able to see some sense of some
quasi justice in this matter. But you know what with
this story, with the previous one as well as all

(57:05):
saying is is not just training, because you know a
lot of times we go to we got to do
more training, more crisis intervention training, more the escalation training, et.

Speaker 29 (57:15):
Cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 28 (57:16):
But what these cases are saying and and really is
represented all around the country is that you just really
have a lot of people who should never have ever
been in law enforcement from the very beginning. They some
people you can't train to do a good job because
they shouldn't have never been in the job as well.

Speaker 29 (57:35):
And I think time and time again we.

Speaker 28 (57:37):
Find that, and so we got to do figure out
how do we have a better filter for people who
are joining law enforcement at whatever level around the country
to make sure that we're getting the right people in
the job.

Speaker 29 (57:50):
I understand they're going in there.

Speaker 28 (57:52):
You'll hear the old adage of when they when they
when they go through a door, they never know what's
behind that door.

Speaker 29 (57:58):
They don't know if they're coming home that night.

Speaker 28 (58:00):
We get that, I respect that honor our law enforcement
officers around the country at all levels.

Speaker 29 (58:07):
But here's the reality.

Speaker 28 (58:09):
My nervousness is, do we have the right people in position?
And even for the position that I held when I
was in my role as an elected official, I oversaw
law a police department with a thousand officers, Right, But
even in that moment, if I was ever driving on
my own when I didn't have security detail, I was
still just as nervous as anybody else, got it, Because

(58:31):
what happens if that officer didn't know who I was,
you know, at that moment, and you just never know
how things pop off in and what may go from there.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
All Right, the Texans US Army Sergeant Governor Greg Abbott
wants to pardon. It's going to spend twenty five years
in prison. Remember, he was convicted for killing a white
Black Lives Matter protester. Daniel Perry was convicted of murdering
Garrett Foster that took place in twenty twenty. He faced
up to ninety nine years in prison. Sheila Foster Garret.

(59:00):
Some mother praised at district court judge Clifford Brown for
finally getting justice for her son after three long years. Again,
this is the racist receive that the governor of Texas
immediately said he was going to part in after white
supremacists and racist Tucker Carlson demanded he do so on
Fox News.

Speaker 26 (59:20):
Well, we've seen time and time again where white supremacists
are willing to disregard and say white lives do not
matter when those white lives are fighting for the value
of black lives. Because a lot of these white supremacists
that we have seen now go to court and be
convicted or in Kyle Rittenhouse's case, acquitit are people who

(59:42):
have killed white people, and as long as they are
standing in solidarity with black people, they get there in
word treatment.

Speaker 32 (59:50):
And so I think that the judge, obviously a black
judge why it's.

Speaker 26 (59:54):
Important who these judges are in these positions, is not
deterred by Abbott's plea. Abbot's pledged to pardon the person
who committed this crime because the reality is that this
vigilanteism is something that should not be tolerated. But that's
exactly what people like Abbot and desantists and Camp and

(01:00:14):
others and Trump want to continue to stoke.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
All right, folks, O type one second. We come back
speaking of Trump. Last night, seeing An had a town
hall that featured this line idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
It was beyond despicable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
We're going to deconstruct this for you and show you
what should have happened if you had an experienced journalist
who knew how to ask questions, and if you had
a network that chose to produce it in a way
to show people real facts. Yeah, I got something to say.

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cannot tolerate black folks voting.

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Every time that people of color had made in progress,
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Speaker 18 (01:01:59):
White people that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources,
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Speaker 29 (01:02:44):
It's time to be smart.

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Speaker 24 (01:02:48):
You dig.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
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Peace World?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
What's going on in select King of Arb Jilehi Deva?
And you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered? All right, folks, So
last night the folks at CNN decided to have a
town hall with a lying, racist, bigoted, sexist, sexual assaulting,

(01:03:21):
tax cheating, misogynistic thug of a person named Donald Trump.
Then they chose to hire a former right wing reporter
for The Daily Caller, who they made their White House correspondent,
who they made their morning anchor, who is now their
nine PM show host, who was grossly inexperienced to handle

(01:03:45):
the job as the one to do the town hall.
What happened last night was literally just a host of
lie after lie after lie after lie, and then seeing
in is also today trying to act like, oh my god,
that was a masterful job of In fact, Poppy Harlow

(01:04:07):
tweeted that Kaitlyn Collins put on a master class in interviewing.
If anybody took that class, your ass would get an f.
I don't know how they thought that was a master class.
There was nothing master or class about that if you
want to understand. So I'm going to deconstruct a number

(01:04:30):
of things that said were said last night, and I
need you to understand what happens if you were a
real experience and prepared journalist. Because see here's the first thing, Okay,
seeing n knew they were booking a liar. The man
lies about lies, and so when a person lies about lies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
They gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
That's what they gonna do. Every time, So you know,
going in, you know, going in, he gonna start lying
from the beginning, and so you must be prepared to
deal with the lot. Do y'all understand why Republicans don't
like coming on my show. It's because they're used to lying.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
The problem is, I don't let people lie on my show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
You literally have to present factual information or I will
stop you in your tracks.

Speaker 18 (01:05:25):
You don't get to just spell lie after lie after lie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
In the first two minute and eleven seconds, Donald Trump
unleash a litany of lies and she but, mister President,
that wasn't that really wasn't true, and that's how she sounded.
And seeing it is like, oh my god, she was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Watch the first part of this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Watch this, President.

Speaker 41 (01:05:52):
Trump, thank you for your time here tonight. We got
a great crowd here in New Hampshire, a lot of
voters with a lot of questions about what your twenty
twenty four term would look like, what another Trump term
would look like. We'll get to the voters shortly. But
your pull show that you were dominating the Republican race
right now. But you are also under active federal investigation

(01:06:12):
for trying to overturn the twenty twenty election results. Your
first term ended for the deadly riot at the Capitol,
and you still have not publicly acknowledged the twenty twenty
election results.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Okay, stop right there. Now, she goes, you're underfeller investigation. No,
a real journalist would have said, first and foremost, you're
under federal investigation. You have been convicted in New York
state court for your organization Trump organization cheating on his taxes.
You have been indicted by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.

(01:06:45):
You under investigation by Fulton County DA Fanny Willis. You
were found liable just yesterday by a court in New
York for sexual assaulting e Jene Carroll.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
That's how you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Open it up. You lay all of those things out.
Then Caitlyn goes into asking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Him, Oh, but you haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
You haven't said that the twenty twenty election was fair.
The man has been lying about it since he lost.
You think all of a sudden because you've shown up
in an Olivia Pope white suit, that all of a
sudden he's going to just go, Hey, guess what, Caitlyn,
You're right, it was a fair election. No press play.

Speaker 41 (01:07:35):
Why should Americans put you back in the White House
because we did fantastically.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Not right then. Not sure why my microphone keeps popping out,

(01:08:04):
but it's all good. So here's the old deal. You
ask an open ended question. First rule of journalism, Never
ask open ended questions. She should have said, why why
should anyone remotely look at you as a front runner

(01:08:26):
when you were under investigation in all of these places
and you consistently lie about the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 24 (01:08:35):
Not what she did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
She let him say all of this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Or a vote.

Speaker 24 (01:08:40):
So we had in as you know, in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 42 (01:08:43):
I actually say we did far better in that election,
got the most that anybody's ever gotten as a president
of the United States. I think that when you look
at that result, and when you look at what happened
during that election, unless you're a very stupid person, you
see what happens. A lot of the people, a lot
of the people in this audience and probably maybe a

(01:09:03):
couple that don't, but most people understand what happened.

Speaker 24 (01:09:07):
It was a rigged election, and it's a shame that
we had to go through, and it's very bad for
our country.

Speaker 42 (01:09:12):
All over the world, they looked at it and they
saw exactly what everyone else saw. You look, even if
you just look recently with the fifty one intelligence agents,
that made a sixteen point difference. If you look at
the FBI, if you look at the FBI and Twitter
they call it Twitter files, made a big difference.

Speaker 24 (01:09:29):
If you look at mister to what you just said.

Speaker 41 (01:09:32):
There though it was not a rigged election, it was
not a stolen election. You and your supporters lost more
than sixty court cases on the election. It's been nearly
two and a half years. Can you publicly acknowledge that
you did lose the twenty.

Speaker 24 (01:09:44):
Twenty hours Stop?

Speaker 22 (01:09:45):
Stop?

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Okay? Can you publicly acknowledge you lost it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
The man just sat there in front of you and
said it was read.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
What the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
And then she goes, oh, well, I mean so yeah,
sixty lowsuits. No, Caitlyn, this is how you say it,
Donald Trump. There were more than sixty cases. Your team
lost all of them. Your firm, you you hired two
firms to look into election rigging and they concluded there

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was no fraud. Then she brings up Republican officials.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Say I hate that phrase.

Speaker 10 (01:10:25):
Play it.

Speaker 24 (01:10:26):
Let me just go on.

Speaker 42 (01:10:27):
If you look at true the vote. They found millions
of votes on camera, on government cameras.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Right there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
He meant this true of the vote a crackpot organization.
Does Caitlyn say, Donald Trump through the vote has no
credibility whatsoever. No, she does it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
She lets them keep talking, press play.

Speaker 42 (01:10:47):
They were stuffing ballot boxes. So with all of that,
I think it's a shame that what happened. I think
it's a very sad thing for our country. I think
it's a very sad thing, frankly for the world, because
if you look at what's gone to our country, our
country has gone to hell, our borders of bed, our
military has been bad. You look at the taxes, you
look at inflation's Republican inflation.

Speaker 24 (01:11:07):
It's just destroying our country.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Now, she goes, oh, do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Y'all have the part where she mentioned Republican officials. She goes, oh,
Republican officials. You know, He's like, well, she goes, oh,
republic officials Like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Well, like in Georgia, really is that what you is?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
That?

Speaker 7 (01:11:25):
That what you say?

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Again? This is how you respond to that with Republican officials.
The Republican secretary of State in Pennsylvania, the Republican Secretary
of state in Georgia, the Republican governor Brian Kemp in Georgia,
the Republican governor in Arizona, the Republican governor in a secretary.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Of state in Arizona state.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
You literally name them, and you go down the line,
all of those people who said and you say, your
Attorney General Bill Barr. You go down the line, and
then you actually say, you actually name the Republicans in Congress.
You don't go on Republican officials.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
No, that's not what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
And then as the point and there when he was
so he brings up Georgia. It took place in Georgia.
That's clip thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Okay, we have that one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
So here's a discussing Georgia again. What CNN should have
done is use on screen graphics played actual sound bites
of individuals who are Republican saying Donald Trump is a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Play another that.

Speaker 41 (01:12:40):
You're facing, which is the one that's happening interested in
Georgia where they are investigating there your efforts to overturn
the election results in the state of Georgia. At the center,
let me finish my question. At the center of that
is that call that you had with the Secretary of
State Brad Roethlisberger, given the fact that there are indictments
expected to come in that case this summer. Is that

(01:13:01):
a call you would make again today?

Speaker 42 (01:13:03):
Yeah, I called, questioning the election. I thought it was
a rigged election. I thought I'd had a lot of problems.
I had every I guess he's secretary of state.

Speaker 24 (01:13:11):
I called, listen to this. There are like seven lawyers
in the call, many of them from there. We're having
a call. We're having a normal call.

Speaker 42 (01:13:18):
Nobody said, oh gee, he shouldn't have said that. If
this call was bad, I questioned the election was bad.

Speaker 24 (01:13:26):
I didn't ask him to find anything.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
The audience right there. She goes, you asked for votes.
He goes, I didn't ask for votes. She goes, is
audio tape? No saying in you do what I'm about
to do? Press play.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Show you play the audio. That's what you do.

Speaker 22 (01:13:48):
Look, all I want to do is this.

Speaker 43 (01:13:50):
I just want to find uh eleven thousand and seven
and eighty votes, which is one more than we have
because we won.

Speaker 42 (01:14:02):
You this morning and you said, well, there was no criminality,
But I mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff.

Speaker 27 (01:14:10):
When you're talking about no criminality.

Speaker 42 (01:14:12):
I think it's very dangerous for you to say the
right answer. Brand instead keep saying that the numbers are right.

Speaker 22 (01:14:18):
So look, can you get together to borrow and Brad?
We just want the truth. It's simple and everyone's going
to look very good if the truth comes out.

Speaker 42 (01:14:29):
It's okay, it take a.

Speaker 22 (01:14:30):
Little while, but let the truth come out, and the truth,
the real truth is that won by four hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
In what you do, then what you do?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
You play Raffisberger saying he asked us to find votes,
and then you say, Donald Trump, you just on that
audio call you asked them to find votes. Yet you
just stood right here and lied to us saying no,
you didn't. That's how you hold somebody accountable. If you're

(01:15:01):
going to have a town hall, you literally play the
damn video. You play the video. So January sixth came up,
January sixth came up, and so he was asked about
January sixth, he was asked about, So we're gonna play

(01:15:22):
the first January sixth SoundBite, and again, I just want
you to understand how you're supposed to question a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Listen, do you have any.

Speaker 41 (01:15:33):
Regrets about your actions on January sixth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Well, you know, okay, again a dumb ass open ended question.
We already know he has no regrets, so why in
the hell would you go, do you have any regrets
about January sixth?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
No, what you say is Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
X number of cops reviciously eaten that day, X number
of cops suffered significant injuries according to Capitol Police. A
number of them have still yet to return to the force.
X number of people have been arrested for their actions.
They have been found guilty in court, and you name them,

(01:16:22):
and you list them, and you say it continues, and
then you say, are you proud of what you did
on January sixth? You don't ask an open ended question.
You have to ask the question by stating the net
result of his actions on January sixth.

Speaker 42 (01:16:43):
Press play January sixth was again, we go back to it.
But January sixth had to do with the fact that
hundreds of thousands of people, and you don't see the
pictures very often, A lot of the people here probably
were there January sixth. Who is the largest crowd I've
ever spoken to? That was the walk down to the
Capitol building. I don't think and I've spoken to hundreds

(01:17:05):
of thousands of people. I've never spoken to a crowd
as large as this, and that was because they thought
the election was rigged and they were there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Proud get rid of thirteen with love in their heart.

Speaker 24 (01:17:16):
That was an unbelievable and it was a beautiful day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Really, they had such love in their heart. That is
if you're a real producer. You cut to the video
of them beating Macy, tearing through barricades. He was asked
about Proud Boys press play.

Speaker 41 (01:17:51):
But when you said you are considering pardoning a large
portion of those charged with crimes on January sixth, does
that include the four Proud Boys members who were charged
convicted of seditious conspiracy.

Speaker 24 (01:18:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 42 (01:18:02):
I'd have to look at their case, but I will
say in Washington, DC, you cannot get a fair trial.

Speaker 24 (01:18:07):
You cannot just like in New York City you can't
get a fair trial.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
So you're saying the legal system not fair, gotcha? Okay,
all right, so check this out loves Cops.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Well, he got to Ashley Babbitt question. He got to
Ashley babbit question Clip sixteen. Listen to this and listen
to how Caitlyn just sat there like a bump on
a log and did not respond.

Speaker 41 (01:18:38):
But I think the reason the timeline is so critical
here because going back to your influence is three hours
over one hundred and forty officers were injured that day and.

Speaker 42 (01:18:47):
A person named Ashley Babbitt was killed. Yes, you know what,
she was killed and she shouldn't have been killed. And
that thug that killed her, there was no reason to
shoot her at blank range, cold blank range.

Speaker 24 (01:19:00):
A shot her and she was a good person, she
was a patriot.

Speaker 42 (01:19:05):
There was no reason that there was no reason and
he went on television to brag about the fact that
he killed her.

Speaker 41 (01:19:12):
The officer was not bragging about the fact that he
killed her.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
But one person, who is it there? Okay, straight lot,
this is what she should have said. Really, here's the
clip of Ashley Babbitt, bad day in January sixth. And

(01:19:56):
then you say, Donald Trump, was the door barricaded? Were
they told not to enter? Why if she was a patriot,
why was she trying to break into a barricaded door
the US Capitol?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
And why are you calling her a patriot? And you're
calling that officer a thug. The officer whose.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Job was to protect members of Congress, including your vice president.
That is how you asked the question. But that's not
what happened, and so what CNN did. CNN literally gave
free reign to this man to lie in front of
a group of Republicans in New Hampshire who was clapping

(01:20:36):
and applaud and cheering. They platformed his lies, and they
literally had a grossly inexperienced person asking the questions.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
There are other women at CNN, Aaron Burnette.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
As one who could have actually host the town hall,
done a better job. There are folks like Jim Acosta,
who he hates, who could have done at our job.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
But that's not what.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
CNN's intent was. I'm gonna go to a break and
we come back. I'm gonna play for you. The call
this morning that Chris Licked, the CEO chairnel of CNN
said to his troops, if you thought Trump was delusional, wait,
do you hear what Chris Lickt had to say?

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
They gotta be having.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Or spoken the same pipe because both of them are
out of their minds. They watching Roller Mark Unfiltered, All Black,
a sudden Nework.

Speaker 19 (01:21:34):
HM that was a pivotal, pivotal time and literally Kevin
Kevin Hart telling me that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
He's like, man, what you doing?

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
You got to stay on stage?

Speaker 21 (01:21:46):
And I was said about, you know, y'all, I'm thinking there,
and he was absolutely right, what show you at that
this was one on one during that time, and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That you're doing one on one going great, You're making money.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
You're like, I'm like, I don't need to leave.

Speaker 21 (01:22:03):
I only leave from you know, Wednesday, Thursday to Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
You know, I just I didn't want to do that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:22:08):
It was just like I'm gonna stay here or I
didn't want to finish work Friday, fly out.

Speaker 21 (01:22:13):
Go do a gig Saturday.

Speaker 22 (01:22:14):
Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
I was just like, I don't have to do that.

Speaker 21 (01:22:16):
And I lost a little bit of that hunger.

Speaker 24 (01:22:19):
That I had. In New York.

Speaker 20 (01:22:20):
I would hit all the clubs, run around, you know.
Sometimes it's me and Chappelle or be in this one
or that one. We go to the comedy cellar one
in the morning, and I mean that was our life.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
We loved it.

Speaker 20 (01:22:33):
You know, you do two shows in Manhattan, go to Brooklyn,
leave Brooklyn, go to Queens, go to Jersey, and I
kind of just I got complacent. But I was like
I got this money out good. I don't need to
go I don't need to go chase that because that
money wasn't at the same level that I was making.

Speaker 21 (01:22:49):
But what I was missing was that training.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Yes, was that was that And it wasn't the money.

Speaker 21 (01:22:54):
It was the money, you know, it was that.

Speaker 24 (01:22:56):
That's what I needed.

Speaker 35 (01:23:13):
We're all impacted by the culture, whether we know it
or not, from politics, from music and entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
It's a huge part of our lives.

Speaker 35 (01:23:20):
And we're going to talk about it every day right
here on the Culture with me Baraji Muhammad, only on

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
My name is Charlie Wilson. Hi, I'm Sally Richardson Whitfield,
and I'm.

Speaker 35 (01:23:38):
Dondre with you everybody, This man Fred Hammon and you're
watching Roland Martin my man unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
So seeing an' is like, oh my god, this was wonderful,
This was amazing, It was great. Caitlyn was just unbelievable.
That literally is what the chairman of CEO, Chris said
today on their morning call.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
You want to hear delusion press play.

Speaker 31 (01:24:04):
All right, good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. I want to
kick off by.

Speaker 44 (01:24:11):
Congratulating Caitlin uh for what I can only call it
masterful performance last night.

Speaker 31 (01:24:18):
I could be more proud of her and the team that.

Speaker 44 (01:24:20):
Supported us on the ground and back home.

Speaker 27 (01:24:24):
It's tough to.

Speaker 44 (01:24:24):
Imagine anyone navigating such a tricky assignment with with more
ease than Caitlin. She asked tough questions, followed up, follow
it up, fact checked, fact checked again in real time,
and as you could see, that was not an easy feat.

Speaker 29 (01:24:41):
I am aware that.

Speaker 44 (01:24:43):
There has been people with opinions slash backlash, and that
is absolutely expected. And I will say this as clearly
as I possibly can. You do not have to like
the former president's answers, but you can't say that we
didn't get them. Caitlin pressed him again.

Speaker 31 (01:25:03):
And again and made news, made a law of news.

Speaker 43 (01:25:07):
Take a look.

Speaker 44 (01:25:08):
I think Axios probably did the best job of just
laying out everything that is new that we learned about a.

Speaker 31 (01:25:17):
Guy who could very well be the guy who's challenging
Joe Biden.

Speaker 44 (01:25:23):
For president and could quite possibly be president again. And
I think it's very important that we learned his positions
on Ukraine January sixth, abortion, the election.

Speaker 31 (01:25:36):
Results, pardoning people there.

Speaker 44 (01:25:40):
There is so much that we learned last night about
what a second Trump presidency.

Speaker 27 (01:25:44):
Would look like. That that is incredibly important for the
country to hear.

Speaker 44 (01:25:50):
So that is our job is to get those answers
and to hold him accountable in a way that no
news organization has done literally in years. And while we
all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was
also an important part of the story because the people
in that audience represent a large swath of America, and

(01:26:15):
the mistake the media made in the past is ignoring
that those people exist, just like you cannot ignore that
President Trump exists. So the idea of doing so, I believe,
is an over correction of the days when we gave
him unfettered rally coverage and showed podiums.

Speaker 38 (01:26:37):
So we all know.

Speaker 44 (01:26:39):
Covering Donald Trump is messy and tricky, and it will
continue to be messy and tricky.

Speaker 12 (01:26:45):
So it's our job.

Speaker 44 (01:26:46):
We're going to do it fairly, toughly, and aggressively, as
Caitlin did last night. I absolutely, unequivocally believe America.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Was served very well by America was served first of all,
I'm Jim Acosta or some of the other people at
SEEINGN who was holding Donald Trump accountable for the four
years he was in the Oval office. I would be
pissed off to hear the CEO say the media did
not hold him accountable before, oh, in years. I would

(01:27:16):
be mad as hell if I'm out there kicking his
ass and doing my job and this guy all of
a sudden claims old. Now last night, Caitlyn Collins was
really hold him accountable, Laurama, go to you first. What
we saw was journalistic malpractice. What we saw was a
poorly produced town hall. What we saw was someone grossly

(01:27:39):
unprepared for the litany of lies. And if they actually
call that live fact checking, they clearly never watched this show.
If you want to see live fact checking.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
Yeah, you know, I had not heard that audio.

Speaker 30 (01:27:56):
Roland had read stories with the audio, but the fact
that he said we'd learned so much. I mean, remember,
Chris lickt comes from entertainment and as somebody who worked
at ABC News when it went from Cap Cities to Disney,
I know what that looks like. We had Michael Eisner
come in and not given f about serious news and

(01:28:16):
dismantled Nightline. Chris lick is from the entertainment world, and frankly,
after listening to that I'm pretty convinced he has absolutely
no idea what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
You know, your analysis is excellent as usual, Roland.

Speaker 30 (01:28:30):
But the central question I think we have to think
about is was what CNN were they doing entertainment or
were they doing news journalism, because I don't think they
actually know what they were doing. I think David Zaslaw
and John Malone and Chris Lickt and Caitlyn Collins are
committed to putting Trump out and platforming him in a

(01:28:50):
way that will get him even with Joe Biden by
the time we get to this time of the year
next year. I think that's their goal, because what I
think we're watching was a strategic business decision to get
somebody in the game that they make money off of.
They make money off of Donald Trump, or at least
they perceive that they're going to make money off Donald Trump,
because that's what they did before. This moment happens to

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arrive right at the time when CNN's ratings are plumbing.
They had a ten year low. They laid off a
bunch of people in Q four last year. They got
rid of that CNN plus thing because that was a
complete disaster.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
You saw Chris Cuomo has gone.

Speaker 30 (01:29:27):
Don Lemon is gone, and now they have ratings that
are tanking, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
right at that time, when the ratings are tanking, they
decide to get the worst president of the United States,
who's been criminally convicted, who is obviously a sexist, who
is obviously a fascist.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
He's been civil he's been civilly convicted.

Speaker 5 (01:29:49):
I think he's been simply convicted.

Speaker 24 (01:29:52):
That we know who he is.

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
Everybody knows who Donald Trump is.

Speaker 30 (01:29:55):
There are no mysteries here, okay, and they put him
on TV and they platf formed them and frankly, I
think what's going on is that watching the slow, tedious
demise of cable news in the form of CNN, they
know their ratings are gone, they know their market here
has gone, they know their their viewership, their viewership is down,

(01:30:15):
and now we're making a decision to put somebody on
who is dangerous so that we can have spectacle and
ratings and make money off the spectacle. That is what
they are doing right in front of everybody's face. And
the idea that that Caitlin Collins was so great. I mean,
I know they're trying to gaslight us. I know they're friends.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
We've got friends in the news business.

Speaker 22 (01:30:37):
You know, we've all been Roland.

Speaker 30 (01:30:39):
I know you've been at you know, I've been at
major companies where you're sitting in the company and you're
doing what you do for your friends that are up there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
But I suspect there will be a staff mutiny. That
is my prediction.

Speaker 30 (01:30:50):
There are too many people in CNN who are serious journalists.
Although I know for a fact, looked at that last night.
You could see the look in the eye of Anderson,
Cooper and Jake last night.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
They knew that they had left up. They knew this
was trash.

Speaker 30 (01:31:05):
And there's just no way it can hold because you
got you have a bunch of serious journalists sitting there,
and then you have this thing last night that makes
absolutely no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Here's a thing. Reci First of all, we are in May.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
We're in May. So this idea that oh yeah, let's
go ahead and do this townholl now, are you serious?
I mean, like, are you really really that serious? And again,
it wasn't like it was a townhole of undecided voters.
It was literally a Trump pet rally. That's exactly what
it was. The laughing, the giggling, and then he goes, oh, well,

(01:31:40):
the media acted as if these people never existed. I'm sorry,
were you too busy on the Colbert Show? Weren't you
the executive producer of Morning Joe Up again? Chris licked
Morning Joe. Joe kissed his ass for a very long
time in twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen, we knew Hillary Clinton
calling the floor. We know exactly who they are. We've

(01:32:02):
seen enough New York Times articles about fucking diners in
the Midwest to know who the hell these people are.
We already know all this sort of stuff, and so
we can go over and over.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
And over again.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
What we're dealing with here again are folks who act
as if we're stupid. No, we know exactly why you
had Donald Trump on, and it was a joke of
a town hall period.

Speaker 32 (01:32:28):
I couldn't agree more with you or Lauren.

Speaker 26 (01:32:30):
But if this was about more than just Trump, keep
in mind that Kayln Collins is a I guess so
called reformed radical Republican who was a part of Daily Caller,
which was formed by Tucker Carlson, a right wing website.
She was the regular on Fox News spewing her white
nationalist talking points, and so what CNN is trying to
do is launch her with this white girl boss, white

(01:32:51):
girl magic power suit moment with the president facing our
former president, disgrace president facing off as though she is
going to conquer the world in her suffragette white It's
a joke, but it's something that you know, Chris Lick
has made a number of questionable decisions that they're betting
the far more. And so, I mean, obviously there's no

(01:33:13):
urgency with this, like you said, with the primaries probably
being a little bit under a year out. But the
urgency is that they're trying to move her and it's
been announced into the nine pm primetime slot.

Speaker 32 (01:33:23):
They already't kick the black man out.

Speaker 26 (01:33:25):
They don't kick the white man out, and so now
they're going to go with their thirty one year old
white Republican woman. But they're trying to rehabilitate into being
a mainstream newscaster. And I don't think that it's going
to work. She's going to flop, just like everything else
is flopping over there on CNN.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Got to go to break, We come back, Lee going
to get a respond Rebecca Aguilaw them Media past President
of South professional journalist. It's also going to she's also
with us as well. She's even tweeting about what we
witnessed last night. And anybody out there who may say, oh, man, Roland,
you hating. First of all, I've been gone for seeing
it for ten years. Issue here, folks, this ain't hate.

(01:34:02):
But I'm telling y'all, mainstream white media it's doing the
exact same thing they did eight years ago that led
to Trump going into the White House. You're watching Rolling
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Speaker 41 (01:36:14):
Why did you take those documents with you when you
left the White House.

Speaker 42 (01:36:17):
I had every right to under the Presidential Records Act.
You have the Presidential Records Act. I was there, and
I took what I took, and against declassified. Biden, on
the other hand, he has eighteen hundred and fifty boxes.
He had boxes sent to Chinatown, Chinatown where they don't
speak even English, in.

Speaker 24 (01:36:33):
That China town. We're talking about it. I got a
right there about we talk about us. Just so you understand,
I had every right to do it. I didn't make
a secret of it. You know, the boxes were stationed
outside of the White House. People were taking pictures of
the GSA, of the various ess up right there.

Speaker 41 (01:36:48):
Because the Presidential Records Act, which is not well known
to a lot of people, I read it. It does
not say that you can take documents with you.

Speaker 24 (01:36:54):
It says actually that they are as you talk, you negotiate,
you make a deal. It's not criminal.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
By yoh, this is real simple, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
I'm not about to argue, but the president Records Act. Again,
a real host and a real producer goes, First of all,
you don't say I got to stop you there and
then keep talking for thirty more seconds. What you say is, oh,
let's see where the President's Record Act says.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
That's what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
You literally call it up, you literally put it on
the screen and you actually read it in front of them,
and it says and that's when you say, hey.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Donald, it says right here. Blah blah blah blah blah.
You did not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
That's how you rebut lies. Chris licked Caitlyn Collins Lee
your perspective as a formulating official on that mess of
a town hall last night.

Speaker 29 (01:37:50):
Well, first of all, brother, I want you to just
kind of relax.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
First of all, this is relaxed. Oh no, this ain't
this ain't no. I've been way more animated. Oh I'm
very related, So I don't need to boosa. See Chris,
leave you understand something? So you said leave you a preacher.
This is my pulpit.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
This is this is where I got This is where
let me.

Speaker 31 (01:38:18):
This is where I dropped the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Word and im And I'm trying to warn everybody who's watching.
I'm trying to warn people because I'm telling you, if
we allow this to continue with other networks, these people,
these people could very well be back in control. And
if you thought January sixth was bad, Oh, that peals

(01:38:43):
in comparison to what these evil, demonic imps plan to
do if he's back in.

Speaker 28 (01:38:53):
My point is My point is this, I don't know
a whole lot about journalism. That is that's your lane.
I know I could tell very clearly that this has
nothing to do with journalism, and I think you've hit
it right on the head.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
This was an.

Speaker 28 (01:39:11):
Economic decision that CNN made. This was a ratings decision.
Chris Lick said that we learned a lot of new stuff. Man,
everything that I heard because I didn't watch the interview
because I knew what it was, but everything that I've
listened to, even right here sitting down right now, I
learned nothing new. And we knew this is what he

(01:39:32):
was going to be saying. We knew where he stood
on January sixth. We knew where he stood on on
the election. We knew he didn't say anything to What
they did was they gave him a platform to continue
to spew that. And I think I believe exactly what
you said earlier. This is an effort to make the
election closer than it ever should be. This is an

(01:39:53):
intentional effort because if this election is closer than it
is right now. That bodes well for them in the ratings.
It bodes well for them economically as well well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
So well, here's a deal, Rebecca. Rebecca. Rebecca Aguilar's a
media past presidents Acide, professional journalist. Rebecca is a freelance
reporter out of Dallas, and Rebecca, Look, Chris Lickt has
his mandate. He wants C and then to appeal to
more Republicans. He's made that perfectly clear. That's what David's
aslof wants because that's what John Malone, the largest stockholder,

(01:40:28):
the largest individual stockholder in Warner Discovery, actually wants. And
so that's why they have been got They've gotten rid
of pnated programming, all those different things. And guess what
that's fine, seeing in first of all, has been there before,
this whole idea we're gonna be down the middle. That
was the case when I was there, they would not
have a pnated programming, and then when Jim Walton was
worldwide CEO.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
So that ain't nothing new.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
But here is the fundamental issue, Rebecca again, that it's
dangerous for the public when you knowingly, when you know
the moment before that person walks in the door. You
know they're lying when you know that they are going
to gas light, when you know that they're going to
demean women, when you know he trashed their own host,

(01:41:13):
calling her a nasty woman, a nasty person. So when
you know that there's a certain way, you have to
prepare for that. You've been a journalist for quite some time.
You know, if you've got an ornery mayor or county
commissioner or county judge or whatever, you know how you
must prepare yourself to approach them versus a politician who

(01:41:37):
acces is going to answer the questions.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
What we saw was seeing in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Allow just flat out lies for almost an hour and
a half.

Speaker 13 (01:41:47):
And you know what, thank you for the invite.

Speaker 32 (01:41:50):
They threw the lamb to the lion.

Speaker 13 (01:41:52):
That's all there is to it. This was not a
town hall. It was a Trump rally. And I think
did here is they didn't prepare Kaylen Collins for this.
You have to prepare just like you do any big assignment.
You prepare, you do even practice runs.

Speaker 29 (01:42:10):
Throw me out.

Speaker 13 (01:42:11):
It's basically sometimes like if any of you guys have
been the court, you know, okay, what do you do this?
If he answers, this, what do you say? And the
problem with her is that she was not prepared. It
was a poorly produced show. They have fact checkers, they
have those big screens. You've seen them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
You know she never Rebecca, don't have the fact checker
on in the post panel. No, you literally as you say,
and you don't go, well, let's go to so and so.
No in a real time if you don't do real time,
you say no, Donald, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
What you said, this is what is reads. That's what
you do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
You don't go, oh, I read the presidential records at
and it says no.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
You make him and make his ass read it with you.

Speaker 22 (01:43:03):
That's how it's doing right.

Speaker 33 (01:43:05):
You know.

Speaker 29 (01:43:05):
I think she needed one of those notebooks.

Speaker 13 (01:43:07):
When he said the lies about the wall, right, I
would say, excuse me and look and just say it.
But the biggest thing that she did not do, and
again let me just say, I think Caitlin Collins is
a decent journalist. I think she has done a decent
job at the White House. But she was not prepared
for this job. And nothing against people who are young,

(01:43:29):
because we were all that age at one time, but there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Comes a time age I can tell you that, right.

Speaker 13 (01:43:37):
But there comes a time where you say, I can't
do this. Why they didn't have Jim Acosta or Dana
Bash right?

Speaker 32 (01:43:44):
Why not them?

Speaker 13 (01:43:45):
I would like to know. And if there's any investigative
reporter out there or any of my sources at CNN,
I want to know, was the Trump campaign given pictures
of everybody and say it, who do you want? Because
you know me, if I'm a strong politician, I'm going
to I want Collins thirty years old. You know you
knew he was intimidating her. Here's another thing that I

(01:44:06):
find hypocritical. Lick gets rid of Don lemon on allegations
of misogyny and all that other stuff. But then because
he allegedly said something that made Caitlin Collins uncomfortable, but
then you put her in an arena with a man
who's a misogynist. I just the hypocrisy. And I think

(01:44:28):
what angers me the most, because you've seen me tweeting,
is that as journalists, you know, I am the immediate
past president of the Society Professional Journalists. A lot of
journalists who work hard every day, A lot of journalists
out there. We bust our ass and we want trust
from the public. We tell the truth. And what happened

(01:44:50):
in that town hall, all they did there was you know,
you're right, master ball performance. No way in hell. She
asked tough questions, She did follow up, She didn't push someone.
Some producer could have gone into her ear and said,
now push back something. We got answers. No, they got lies,

(01:45:11):
lie after lie. We learned so much. We didn't learn
anything else. Trump just kept spewing whatever they you know,
And here's another thing, stop calling them untruth they're lies.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Right, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Oh but see that's again, though, here's the deal. That's
the media deal. I'm telling you. I was on ABC
this week and I think it was I think it
was February twenty seventeen, and this came up. And I
remember all of twenty fifteen, sixteen, and even the first
two years of his presidency, they were all scared to

(01:45:43):
say lie. And I remember I remember, I think it
was Jake Tapper and Judy Woodruff. I think there was
anything said. Well, in order for us to know that
it's a lie, we have to know at the outset
the person means to do it. I said, listen, if
I brought my ass home at three o'clock in the morning,
and I came up with a bis through my dad
be like, son, why you lying. He wouldn't sit here

(01:46:04):
and say, well, I need to understand what.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
No, he know why I'm lying because I I came
on at three am. He know the liar is coming,
so we know, but they won't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
They Not one time did she say and again, I
don't call him mister president. I can't use that title.
Not one time that she say, that's a lot what
you just said simply, And it's not just even that, Rebecca,
it's also.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
How you said.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Not one time does she say Donald, what you just
said simply is not true.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
This is the fact.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
And and the way you hit somebody like him, you
go fact read it, fact read it, fact read it,
fact read it. And then I am anticipating him going
when that's fake news. And then that's when you say,
so anything that you don't like you call fake news.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Even though it's a fact. You gotta know what's coming when.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
You again an experienced person, I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I know what a rebuttal is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
And I already know what your rebuttal to my rebuttal
is gonna be so I know when to come back with.
And the reason you use graphics and monitors in video
is because it's hard for the person, Rebecca to lie
when you say, we just heard your voice and then
you say was that you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
And the phone call?

Speaker 24 (01:47:40):
Was that you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
On the phone call? Did you make that phone That's
how you do it.

Speaker 18 (01:47:44):
You have to box the person in, not just go
so why no you do do you don't do?

Speaker 27 (01:47:52):
Open end?

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
Rebecca, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:47:54):
It's about having control. She never took control. The minute
he was defending mean miss Carrol, I would say, excuse me,
you know whether you call mister Trump or not, you know,
mister Trump. Please, you cannot be doing that. The minute
she heard the audience laughing, excuse me, audience. You have
to be respectful.

Speaker 27 (01:48:12):
This is not a.

Speaker 13 (01:48:12):
Fraternity party, this is not a concert. You have to
be respectful. You use that tone and take control. She
did not take control. You also have to have courage,
have the balls to say, mister Trump, you are lying
about that and looking right in the eye. And number three,
have the confidence. And this is what happens what you
build confidence with experience. And you know what's really sad

(01:48:35):
about this?

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
No no, I'll let you finish that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
You build confidence with experience and knowledge exactly, so you could,
but I mean you could actually not have a lot
of experience, but if you have the knowledge, you can
hit back the knowledge. And so yes, the knowledge, the
experience and the confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
That's a deadly potion. Go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:48:59):
But I also think that I hope that her real
friends at CNN will guide her through this because I
being criticized like this. It's awful, it's horrible. But what's
really said? Last night I'm watching you know, the panels
by the way, there's no latinos on their panels. They're panels.
And I hear Van Jones, Oh she did a great job.

(01:49:22):
Stop Van Jones another talking head that it's like, stop
stopped trying to make her look good when she herself
knows she was weak. I'm sure she does. A real
journalist is going to face that reality. That doesn't mean
she'll always be weak at this, but someone needs.

Speaker 29 (01:49:38):
To tell her.

Speaker 13 (01:49:39):
And mister you know and Chris Lick, he needs to
stop drinking his own kool aid because that's what he's doing.
And all those other people, the Anderson Coopers, that Jake Tappers,
they're not going to say anything. They're not going to criticize,
They're going to rehash this. I mean, I'm sick of it.
Today they're rehashing a train wreck over and over. Those

(01:50:00):
don't say anything because they make millions.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
Of dollars rehashingate train, trying to convince us it was
a spectacular F one race hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
One second. I got to go to a break.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
We'll be back. Roland Marked unfiltered on the Black Studd Network.

Speaker 14 (01:50:18):
Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene. White nationalists rally
that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
White people are moving their their.

Speaker 15 (01:50:30):
As a angry pro Trump, Mark storms to the US
capital the We're about to see the lives.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Where I call white minority resistance.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 16 (01:50:44):
violent denial.

Speaker 29 (01:50:49):

Speaker 17 (01:50:51):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Harold Anderson, every
university calls white rage.

Speaker 29 (01:51:00):
I see backlash.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
This is the right of the proud Boys and the
Boogaaloo boys.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
America There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 22 (01:51:06):
There's all the proud boys, guys.

Speaker 9 (01:51:07):
This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and.

Speaker 13 (01:51:12):
Its attitudes because of the fear.

Speaker 18 (01:51:14):
Of white people, the fear that you're taking our job,
they're taking our resources, they're taking out women.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
This is white Field.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Live Start Networks, a real old revolutionary right now.

Speaker 22 (01:51:43):
I thank you for being the voice of black apparance
moment that we have.

Speaker 13 (01:51:47):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 32 (01:51:49):
The video of phenomenal is.

Speaker 33 (01:51:51):
Between Black Star Network and Black owned media and something
like CNN.

Speaker 10 (01:51:56):
You can't be black owned media.

Speaker 22 (01:51:59):
And be scared.

Speaker 31 (01:52:00):
It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs, hold you dig.

Speaker 22 (01:52:08):
Hey, everybody, it's your girl.

Speaker 24 (01:52:09):
Who now?

Speaker 27 (01:52:10):
So what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
This is your boy Earthquake.

Speaker 6 (01:52:11):
I am Chailey Rose and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 24 (01:52:20):
Lauren.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
This thug called January sixth a beautiful day. We saw
without our own eyes what actually took place. The reason
the reason this is so bothersome is because and I
need everybody to understand what I'm about to say, because
this is critic This is just critically important. When Donald

(01:52:45):
Trump started running, what did he do? He kept calling
everything fake news. Why did he do that? Because he
wanted to sow seeds of doubt and discontent. What has created,
what has been created in the last eight years, is
that there is a subset of people, yes, deplorables, who
literally literally believe every lie he tells.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
We have undeniable truths.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
And these people go up did hapen? They reject everything
they were so they are so deranged that they were
so pissed off when the Fox News called Arizona. They
rejected Fox News to go to Newsmax and O A
N which is even crazier than Fox News. Now, why

(01:53:34):
is this important? Just because these people then going to office,
that there is a there is a everybody to understand
that this is not just about Donald Trump. Let me
say this again, this is not just about Donald Trump.

(01:53:56):
What this thug let me real clear, y'all. What the
news media unleashed by heralding this guy's a genius positioned
him to then run, is that you now have folks
who are infiltrating public office all across the country. That's

(01:54:17):
mons for liberty, taking over school boards, firing superintendents, change
the curriculum. Go to myopad, Go to MyPad, Mark Elias
tweeted this, here there is a woman right now who
was one of the stop the Steal judges. This woman
right here, Patricia mcculloff, who's on the ballot.

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
This was what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Patricia McCullough, who is on the ballot on Tuesday, handed
Donald Trump a rare legal victory in twenty twenty and
has sided with the GOP on other election cases, only
to be repeatedly struck down by the High Court.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
She now wants to join.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
The reason why what CNDD seeing and did with so
Danger's Lauren is because they are creating these imps, these acolytes,
these supporters of Trump who now are who are in
state capitals, county commissions, school boards, city councils, governor's mansions,

(01:55:21):
and on the federal bench.

Speaker 30 (01:55:24):
Yeah, they're platforming and amplifying lining and deception. And at
a time when misinformation disinformation is huge. And it's sort
of two things that collided into what you just said,
Rolland one was that the first the election of the
first black president of the United States, we started seeing
these sort of fake news organizations come up from Breitbart,

(01:55:44):
et cetera and so on, and they were creating their
own reality. And on the back of that was Facebook
amplifying dissension and conflict to make money and disinfo and misinfo.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
And where did that lead us? That led us to
an attack on the US Capitol.

Speaker 30 (01:56:00):
And so what that entire thing has done is it's
created a reality that some people live in that others
do not live in. Trump is well aware of that
as somebody who's been in the media for so long,
and he knows how.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
To manipulate the media really well.

Speaker 32 (01:56:17):
The thing that I've.

Speaker 30 (01:56:20):
I'm struggling to figure out here is whether or not
these executives at CNN actually put him on because I
am not really defining what I saw last night as
a journalistic enterprise or an enterprise to protect the truth.
I actually think what we saw was people who agree
with Donald Trump amplifying Donald Trump. Because I have a

(01:56:42):
hard time believing that John Malone at eighty something years old,
who's a multi billionaire, doesn't agree with Donald Trump, because
you do not amplify as a news organization in that
way somebody that you do not agree with. So Chris
Lick and Caitlin Collins, who just happens by some coincidence
to have worked for Tucker Carlston over The Daily Caller.

(01:57:04):
To your points, Roland, the way she did her questioning
was very open ended. You know damn well that Donald
Trump is going to steamroll what you say, say whatever
he wants and lie and we don't know damn well
too that line works. But my bigger question for this
is was he platform because Zaslov and Malone and Licked
and Collins wanted to platform him because in fact they

(01:57:26):
agree with him. That's the part that because I can't
imagine them putting somebody on they don't agree with and
amplifying him to that extent and allowing him to say
all of those things that we knew he was going
to say, and then try to act like it's a
big shock to them when the show is over.

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
Well, it's not a big shock to them.

Speaker 30 (01:57:45):
Now they're gaslighting us all day, trying to pretend that
that worked out just fine, which of course it didn't.
And as I say, the only thing that gave me
hope is I could look into Tuck. I could look
into Anderson Cooper's eyes right when that panel started, and
I could tell that he knew I worked with him
briefly at ABC a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (01:58:03):
He knew that this was wrong.

Speaker 31 (01:58:04):
I mean, you know, it was crazy.

Speaker 30 (01:58:07):
And Laura Coates was basically about to turn the corner
on the air last night and say this is crazy
and got interrupted by Jake. So clearly there was a
feeling there among the journalists, not the commentators, not Van
Jones and these people who do opinion for a living.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
I'm talking about the journalists.

Speaker 30 (01:58:25):
They knew that what they put on the air was
journalistic malpractice.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Okay, I mean, you just can't.

Speaker 32 (01:58:32):
You can't do that.

Speaker 30 (01:58:33):
We're dealing in a situation here where the capital just
got attacked, dealing with a fascist liar, okay, who was
very set to crash our democracy.

Speaker 5 (01:58:42):
Everybody knows that, and that is what they platform.

Speaker 27 (01:58:45):
Lee.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
First of all, go to my iPad.

Speaker 27 (01:58:48):
Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Here's a perfect example of what we're talking about, a
right wing takeover of a Colorado school board. As some
of the town's conservatives deeply concerned when you read this
particular story here, this is a Woodland. They came in,
they hired a new superintendent, they approved a charter school without.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Any public notice.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
They were so abysmal they forgot to apply for grants
that are going to fund the district. Literally literally, they
enacted a MAGA playbook, and the district now is in
total disarray. One, this happens when people don't vote. But two,
this is what happens when you let nutcases come into

(01:59:28):
elected office.

Speaker 28 (01:59:32):
Absolutely, it's intentional, right, it's intentional. And I'll say this
about the Republicans. And you know, I was an elected
office at the local level, and they focused on things
like the school board and county commission and these small
town city councils and small time.

Speaker 29 (01:59:48):
City mayors and things like that.

Speaker 28 (01:59:49):
Because guess what, they now have a platform to get
elected at the next level, and then they get elected
to the next level the next thing. You know, they're
representing entire states and and and members of Congress and
things like that. And it's a playbook. So let's be clear,
it's a playbook. They're not coming in making up stuff
on their own. They got the tea party playbook, the

(02:00:12):
MAGA playbook, they got the talking points that they all
kind of abide by.

Speaker 24 (02:00:18):
And uh.

Speaker 29 (02:00:18):
And so you're seeing this happening all across the country.

Speaker 28 (02:00:21):
And then here's the quiet thing that maintains the power
of a state even when it doesn't adequately reflect the
voters themselves. You have redistricting right where they get the
jerrymander the lines, and and across the states. So in
state legislatures all across the country, you have state legislatures

(02:00:44):
that don't reflect the voting population because they've jerrymandered these
districts to maintain the power much longer than the voting
representation voting representation would bring. And so when you look
at things going back to the town hall, when you
allow Donald Trump to have this platform and just have

(02:01:06):
a full I don't know how long the town hall
was quote unquote town hall was, but he had however
long it was of a platform to save whatever he
wanted to say, the very definition of gaslighting. He's making
you believe that what you're seeing with your own eyes
is not true. And so when he does that, right,

(02:01:27):
guess what he's doing. He's also giving the talking points
for those who are down ballot, you know, at the
state legislat But also what.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
He's doing Lee, he's also by running roughshot over a
Caitlyn Collins, He's showing see, this is how you treat them,
this is how you disrespect them, This is how you
diminish them and it cheers their people. On Recca, I
will go to you for the final coming here because
this is again. And so when Lee was like, hey,
calm down, no, because see this is what I need

(02:01:57):
Lee to understand, I got you.

Speaker 31 (02:02:00):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
No, no, no no no no no no no no
no no, hold on, hold on, hold on, no, this.

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
Is what did you understand? I literally saw this years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
So let me explain.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
I was at CNN Rebecca from two thousand and seven
to two and twenty thirteen, and.

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
We were every every time they.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
Would interview Trump, I would go, why in the hell
we talking to Donald Trump? And I remember being in
the Washington bureau going up to Stephanie Kutubi, who was
a booker for Seeing n for Wolf Blitzer's show, and
I said, why in the hell is Wolf interviewing Donald Trump? Oh,
every time we talked Donald Trump, we get great ratings,
I said, but he doesn't know what the hell he's

(02:02:40):
talking about. Why are we talking to him? Are we
trying to talk to CEOs? Go talk to real CEOs
with real companies? I said that. But they were enamored
with going on his plane, going to Trump Tower because
they love the batshit stuff that came.

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
Out of his mouth.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Rebecca, now watch this, now watch this. I was on CNN.
Heidie Phillips was the anchor. I forgot who the other
person was and Trump came up. And this is what
I actually said. I said, anytime Trump comes comes on CNN,
we should run a crawl at the bottom that says
this is for entertainment purposes only. Rebecca. I got an

(02:03:25):
email and the email came from Ken Jouts. Ken Jouts
was the executive vice president at CNN. Ken Jouts told
me in an email, do not criticize Donald Trump when
he is coming on our air. He sent me that email.

(02:03:45):
Ken Jouts is still the executive vice president at CNN.
I'm not saying Ken Jouts is a Trump supporter. What
I'm saying is he literally told me not to criticize
dumb Trump when he was coming on CNN. I remember
when Obama was giving an economic speech or something and

(02:04:06):
they Piers Morgan had Donald Trump on to rebut Obama.
And I remember because I was in Chicago, and remember
being in my uh in my townhouse, and I was
I was watching this crap when I was tweeting, and
I was like, why in the hell are we not
talking to a real ceo? Why are we letting this

(02:04:27):
man run run his mouth? He's not running a real company.
Joe Scarborough has been going off on the CNN debate.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
Really, Joe Scarborough, you the same Joe Scarborough and Mika
who let this man come on the air phone in
tossing all of his bs? That the same one. Here's
the point that I'm making.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
Here, Rebecca, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Posts,
New York magazines, all of these media outlets. They created
this monster, They created this thing as he was, this

(02:05:17):
know it all who was brilliant, who was smart. Everybody
talks about Jeff Zucker given him because he was failing,
he was bankrupt the Apprentice Show. No, it was mainstream
white media that propped Donald Trump up as this brilliant,
self made American businessman because they loved the crazy stuff

(02:05:37):
that came out of his mouth and it was like,
he's ratings gold and Rebecca they still think so. Less
Moonves said that in the twenty sixteen election, Trump may
not be good for America, but he's good for CBS.
They know why they are doing this, and there is
no journalist, Doucer Booker, executive in TV radio or newspaper,

(02:06:05):
magazine or digital. If they aid it the rise of
Donald Trump, they cannot stand today on their moral high
horse unless, Rebecca, they apologize for creating and giving America
this monster. You're the final word.

Speaker 13 (02:06:24):
Yeah, and they have to recognize their hypocrisy. They have
to realize that they allowed this man to help this
man become president. It was twenty four to seven, and yes,
CNN can say we got three million viewers last night,
and it was a business move also. But what's really
terrible about them, terrible about it is that they hurt journalists,

(02:06:47):
good journalists all these places that you named. Yeah, there
were the enablers, the Trump enablers, and then there was
the other group, right, the ones that are at the
mass shootings, flushing out other stuff around the country. I'm
glad you showed local reports because thank god for local reporters,
because they're outing some of these people. You know, one
of the things that SPJ is we have the Code

(02:07:08):
of Ethics. The Code of Ethics, go to SPJ dot
org and it says it is clear, seek truth and
report it, minimize harm. Yesterday there was so much harm
that that Trump rally created right act independently, there was
no acting independently. He owned them last night, Trump owned CNN,

(02:07:28):
and then there was be accountable and transparent. Just hearing
Licked today on that recording. He's not being accountable, he's
not being transparent. He's living in his little bubble. And
you know, one of the other guests said, well, you know,
everybody's controlling everything. Here's the deal. Chris lickt is someone's
puppet from above. Caitln Collins is Chris Lick's puppet. You know,

(02:07:53):
he's the puppeteer. And I don't know if Caitlyn Collins is,
you know, on the tr agenda. I do feel that
she was the easy one to put in there. And
you know, we were like a little puppet because as
you see Roland and you know she was scripted, she
wasn't even listening. She was trying to follow each question

(02:08:14):
and again, who wrote those questions? The producers? If I'm there,
I'm looking into every producer, every executive producer, every supervising
producer who wrote.

Speaker 24 (02:08:24):
This and why?

Speaker 13 (02:08:25):
And if I'm Caitlin Collins, I would go to each
one of them and say, why did you make me
look like a fool, because it will be out in
YouTube and out in the world forever, forever. But what
CNN did last night is they hurt us, the true
journalists who care about the truth, who care about helping

(02:08:46):
the public. Chris Lick did not serve the public. He
did them wrong. He did them wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
Rebecca Agilar, Lee May, Lavatory Burk. I appreciated recent Cobra
had to go. I appreciate Recie as well. Here's my
final comment on this folktion. It's very simple. You've heard
me say this on this show numerous times. If you
do good, I'll talk about you. If you do bad,
I'll talk about you. At the end of the day,
I'll talk about you. Why did Philip and why did

(02:09:15):
David Lywryn? Why did all a lot of these black conseratives,
Why did they get so mad at me? Because I
won't let them lie. I won't let them come on
this show and feed us their talking points and not
deal with fact. See, y'all May didn't realize again, I
simply cannot let lie stand or eroun its information. Hey,

(02:09:42):
when Lauren was talking, Lauren made a comment about criminal
and I said, no, it's civil. That was a brief
fact check.

Speaker 3 (02:09:49):
Why why did I do that?

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Because if you're watching the show, if you're listening to
this podcast, if you hear something on this show and
then you hear me say nothing, you go, hey, what
I heard was true, and so I wasn't mad at her,
wasn't demeaning, but it was simply no, It wasn't criminally,
it was civil because it's about facts, it's about truth.
And the problem is when you have a known liar

(02:10:14):
walking through the door, that I must gird myself for
battle because I'm not battling him, I'm battling the lies.
Because there are people who are watching. There are mothers
and fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles
and nieces and nephews and cousins and church members and
sorority members and fraternity members and farmers and doctors and

(02:10:36):
lawyers and engineers and people who are actually watching, and
they are seeking truth.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
And one of the fundamental problems in journalism is.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
That we have too many people who are in the
position that I'm in, who don't know shit, and they're
depending upon some producer in the control room to feed
them questions and feed them answers, or walk up to
them and handle them blue cards with the facts on it,
because they do not read. And so what do a

(02:11:05):
lot of these politicians hate They hate it when you
are the person and you actually have done your homework
because they can't get one over on you. That's why
it is called preparation. That's why it is called getting ready.
And the problem that we have. We played it the

(02:11:25):
other day when the reporter of the news conference asked
President Joe Biden a question about Kevin McCarthy in the
Republicans bill dealing with.

Speaker 3 (02:11:33):
The debt limit, and he goes, what's in it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
What's in it? She couldn't even tell him she was
asking the President of the United States a question regarding
the bill of the Republicans, as she had not even
read the bill. And that's a White House correspondent. Supposedly

(02:12:00):
the krim delacrime, supposedly the top of the heap. So
what then happens We don't give the public correct information,
they run with lies, they run with lies. I'm not
gonna play the clip, but if you go to clip

(02:12:21):
on Twitter, and I rarely give Steve Doocey any credit,
but this morning on Fox News Steve Doocey challenged Congressman
James Comer and saying, you have circumstantial evidence against President Biden,
but you do not have any factual information of all
the people on Fox and Friends, not that idiot Angsley,

(02:12:45):
not that idiot Brian killed me, but Deucey, who really
is dumb. He literally was like, y'all do not have
the goods and it's stuck to it, y'all. Kelly and
Conway said alternative facts, and no such thing exist. It's

(02:13:09):
either true or it isn't. And that is the only
standard that will exist on this show, on this network.
And if there is a host on this network who
does not abide by that principle, they will not be
on this network.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
And I will not allow.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
People to come on my show and knowingly lie and
spread it thinking it's true when we know it isn't,
because I have too much respect for the audience to
allow them to move forward in life having to listen

(02:13:53):
to somebody lie and I say nothing, it's licked. Caitlin Collins, CNN.

Speaker 22 (02:14:06):
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