TN 3 at White House, NC Lt. Gov. Reparations, Tucker Out at Fox News, TN Police Oversight Abolished

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today's Monday eight for twenty four, twenty twenty three and
coming up of Roland Martin on Fielter streaming live on
the Black Start Network. The Tennessee three at the White House?
Are they meeting with President Joe Biden Vice President Kamala
Harris weeks after facing historic expulsion they are in that state.
Will tell you what happened at the White House and
how this may help move the gun reform closer in

(00:24):
the US. North Carolina's Republican Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson. He
lost his campaign to become the state's next governor and
the first black Republican governor since reconstruction, but his ass
is crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Wait until we show you what this idiot.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Said about black folks and reparations and keep in mind
Republicans could actually elect this full Yeah. Vice President Kamala
Harris made an historic trip to Africa. Strictity diplomacy in
that country. We'll talk with the President of the Constituency
for Africa her visit, but also the inroads that Russia

(01:04):
is making there. What does it mean for the corent
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
In terms of its future.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Tennessee's Republican supermajority of this mailing the states two largest
cities independent civilian led boards that investigate police misconduct allegations
and review policing policies.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We'll talk with the Metro Nashville Community Oversight.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
The executive director about this very issue plus legend they were.
NDA coach Phil Jackson is showing his true colors as
he says he has not watched any NBA game since.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They had Black Lives Matter on the court. Now, what
do we play that for?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
You will be joined by Jermalist Kelsey Nicole Nelson here
as well. Also, white women are going to learn to
leave black folks alone. The white woman to get asked
whoop after she literally slapped the black woman in a store.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I keep telling y'all, this ain't gonna end well. Speaking
now ending well.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Jeff Shell fired by Comcasts as CEO. It was universal
for having a family to c at BC anchor white
man has like a Carlson fired at Fox News. Moments later,
Don Lemmy gets the boot at CNN.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I got a few things to say about that. It's
time to bring the fuck rolling. Martin on filtered on
the Black Sun Network. Let's go, He's yo, whatever the best,
He's on it. Whatever it is. He's got smooth the
fact to fine and wait it baks. He's right on
top and is rolling.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Best believe he's going down Frank's Boston News to politics
with entertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Just bookcakes. He's stolen.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's rowing out, it's rolling montage.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, rolling with rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
He's book he's dressed, she's real. Good question.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
No, he's rolling.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Monte the trio. None of the Tennessee three. He sat
down with President Joe Biden and the Vice President Kamala
Harris today at the White House. Biden hosted the state

(03:15):
lawmakers from Tennessee Democratics that Representative Justin Jones, Justin Pearson,
and Gloria Johnson were thrust in the spotlight for leading
anti gun violence protests in response to the Covenant School shooting.
Of course, they protest took place on the floor of
the State House. Republicans lost their damn minds by saying, oh,
how dare they break decorum? And so they kicked out

(03:37):
Jones and Pearson fell short on kicking out Johnson. Of course,
Jones and Pearson black, Johnson white.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Here's something what the presidents had to say.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
You're standing up for kids, You're standing up for our
community community. Then democratic values that's all about. And you're
all three of you speak so well why you're doing
what you did and why you continue to do.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
And look.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
What that Republican legislature did was shocking. It was just undemocratic,
and it was without any Christian but she turned it
around very quickly.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now, of course Pearson, Pearson and Jones kicked out, but
they got put back in because of forks of Shelby County, Memphis,
and the folks in the National City Council voted them
back in.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
UH, a Republican.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Republican member of the r n C actually said they
screwed up.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
He said that all.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
They've done is empower young folks and pissed them off.
And they actually elevated these three. My palent, Julian mal
Vaudin College of Ethics Studies, Californias at University of LA
from She's judents from Most Angeleans. I'm a Congo dibinga
senior PROPACERI Electoral School of International Service, American University.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Here in DC.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
We Needa Shennon, former Jordans representative from Atlanta.

Speaker 8 (04:57):
Here.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Here's the thing, Rinda is very simple. This Republican said
it by throwing them out, you've elevated three folks who,
frankly others would have never heard of, and you've pissed
off so many young people. You've not got them fired up,
not only in Tennessee but across the country.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
He said, we didn't play it as well.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
Absolutely, and I'm glad that the White House is recognizing
these three and assisting them because all across the country
you have black state representatives who are putting the fight
and speaking truth to power, and more often than not,
they are not recognized and they do not receive the
support that they should receive. So I'm really glad that
these three are getting the support. Hopefully this will lead

(05:39):
to a larger platform for them to be able to
speak for the issues because Justin Pearson and the other
representative are those two have followed their work and they
are generally on the right side of issues for black folks,
and so I honestly feel like getting elevated could not
have happened to two better reportsatives for our community.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And they are they are such idiots, Julian that they've
even voted when they when they don't want to hear
them talking. Oh, we're just going to vote to stop
them from talking. The exact same thing happened. I think
it's in Minnesota, I believe, or one of those states,
North Dakota.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think it's North Dakota.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
One of them states with a whole bunch of white people,
North Dakota, south of the cold, one of them. Uh
So there's a transgender elected official and they've voted to.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Silence keep her from talking.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And so what they're doing is actually adding fuel to
the fire.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And so my whole deal is keep going, keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
All you're doing is empowering millennials and gen Z. That's
all you're doing.

Speaker 10 (06:44):
Well, you know, Roland is Actually it's quite amusing to
see how these folks try to silence people where you know,
full of wealth. You try to silence them in one place,
they're going to find another form.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
They probably you.

Speaker 10 (06:55):
Know, they've been on TV, they've been you know, having
radio interviews. As you say, nobody they would have known
them two months ago, and now they're basically heroes, not
only to the gun lobby but also to young people.

Speaker 11 (07:06):
And what these people.

Speaker 10 (07:07):
Keep forgetting is that we old folks say old farts
to baby boomers et cetera.

Speaker 11 (07:12):
We're going to be about here one way or another.

Speaker 10 (07:16):
And these younger people are they don't do it the
same way that we did it. They don't care if
they broke the korum. They break the korum again, and
they don't care about the rules according to protocol.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
They want stuff done.

Speaker 10 (07:30):
And with this gun thing, I mean twelve thou more
than twelve thousand people have died this year so far
from these guns, and we've had I don't know how
many mass shootings at one point, it's almost like more
of them than days. So we're really looking at an
epidemic and it's a public health emergency as well.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
And young people aren't having it.

Speaker 11 (07:50):
They're feeling so impacted by this, so impacted.

Speaker 10 (07:53):
That they are embolden and we have to be able
to support them in their boldness.

Speaker 11 (07:58):
And these idiots in this Tennessee legislature, they're gonna.

Speaker 10 (08:01):
Get what they've got coming. They gotta go on ballots.
These young people are going to be voting for them.
It's gonna come around to them. So it's sort of
like paybackers.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And you know what, absolutely, I'm a congo. This is
the story from business inside. To go to my iPad police,
and this is Oscar Brock, who is from Tennessee. He
actually said that my job, along with other members of
the RNC, is to protect the brand of the Republican Party.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
This didn't help.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You've energized young voters against us.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Worse than squandering support. You've made enemies where we didn't
need them.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
And he says that even though Republicans controlled seventy five
of the ninety nine House seats, he said, the problem
is there are a lot of competitive districts in Tennessee.
And remember Reverend Barber was on our show. He said
seventy five or cent of the people who ran in
Tennessee ran unopposed. So what they've done is actually given
free publicity for a greater fundraising for Democrats who were

(09:03):
imperiled in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
This is a huge boost.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
For them most definitely.

Speaker 12 (09:08):
I'm still tripping over the part of the letter about
the Republican brand because I'm like, what in the world
is it nowadays?

Speaker 7 (09:15):
It's just he and the vision. That's that's their job.

Speaker 12 (09:18):
When we look at what happened at the White House today,
it was really amazing because you look at the two constituencies,
those three representatives represent young black people and youth in general,
and white suburbia, right, even if she isn't from the suburbs.
You know, white women in suburbia, two areas that people
think the Democrats may struggle with in the next election.

(09:38):
So this is very strategic for Joe Biden, who's expected
to announce his run for a second term, possibly tomorrow
but sometime this week. And these are people he's going
to be able to call on. At the very least
he got the photo op as relates to some new
rock stars in the party. So absolutely the Republicans messed
this up. And like you said, with the trans representative,
not only did they silence that representative, but they also

(10:01):
intentionally misgender the representative when they call the representative out.
So they are on a hardcore push to try to
silence voices. But it's not going to work. The only
way is going to work rolling if we've seen this
happen too many times, if so many of these young
people who are get out there and protesting are not voting,

(10:21):
if they do not vote, and so we have to
be mindful and strategic. All of these young people who
are going to turn eighteen between now and the next election.
As Joe Madison said, we need to be having voter
registration cards that these graduations. We need to stay on
that because if all of these protests keep happening and
they don't vote, Republicans can continue doing what they're doing.
So that's the key, and you've said this multiple times, Roland.

(10:43):
It's not about supporting the Democratic organizations, supporting the get
out the vote efforts on the ground and.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
The local communities.

Speaker 12 (10:49):
And if we do that, we can do incredible things
in Tennessee and beyond.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Last coming on before I go to break Republicans also,
y'all are pretty stupid.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
They don't even read history.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
One of the things that the King always talked about
is you had to have a protagonist and an antagonist.
Why did the movement not do well in Albany.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Georgia, It's because the sheriff in Albany, Georgia was smart.
He was a college graduate.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
He treated King others respect, even though they put King
in jail, he treated them with respect and dignity. Bull
Connor was a dumb ass, so was sheer Clark. And
so when they went to Selma had a whole different ballgame.
When with the Birmingham a different ballgame because they were dumb,

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and so King always understood, if I have the right antagonist,
then I have set the stage for mass action and
for friction, and that's what's going to drive cameras. These
idiots are the modern day Bull Connors, and what they've
done is elevate Justin Jones, Justin Pierce, and Gloria Johnson

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to frankly a mythical status. And now they have to
now deal with that and we'll see how that plays
out when he reach out to all three try to
get him on the show, but their book with other
and again we booked with numerous media interviews for the
next couple of hours, and so we look forward to
having them back on the show.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
All right, folks got to go to break. We come
back lots.

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We're gonna talk about, Folks, is idiot lieutenant governor in
North Carolina, the FCC uh not really moving forward under
standard general deal with TEGNA. I was there at the
meeting on Thursday, will show you what happened there.

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We're also talk about Vice President visited visit.

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Speaker 12 (15:00):
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all right now. Look, I told y'all there are some sane.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Black Republicans, and it's a whole bunch of them that
are out of their damn minds. One of them is
Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina Mark Robinson.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, so this fool's announced he's running for governor.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Okay, and trust me, Republicans will happily get behind this
nutcase who was the state's first black lieutenant governor.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Now, why am I calling him back?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
He's made some of the most outlandist, ridiculous comments you've
ever heard, including this is what this fool said in
a speech in twenty twenty one to the North Carolina
Republican State Convention.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Watch this crap.

Speaker 17 (16:29):
There are some people that were talking about reparations in
this country.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
They wanted reparations.

Speaker 17 (16:34):
And I remember I made this particular liberal so angry
at me because I told him right to their face,
nobody owes you anything for slavery. If you want to
tell the truth about it, it is you who owes.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's you who owes.

Speaker 17 (16:52):
Why do you owe because somebody in those fields took
stripes for you. Somebody after those fields were ended and
slavery was ended, somebody had to walk through Jim Crow
for you. Somebody fought wars and died for you. Somebody

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lived less than because they didn't have what you have, and.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
They did it for you.

Speaker 17 (17:19):
There are people in their graves right now, and they
are there because they were willing to stand up and
fight for you. Those folks on the Edmund Pennis Bridge
carrying American flags. Take that calling Kaepernick living in a
society that he could scarcely acknowledge something that he has

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never known, living with a bigotry that none of us
can imagine, carried American flags on that bridge. And when
they would hit up side the head with nice sticks.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
And shot with water hoses.

Speaker 17 (17:52):
And knocked to the ground, they got up and picked
those flags up and kept marching. And they did it
for you. Nobody owes you anything. If anybody owes it's you,
because you've been the benefactor of freedom.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Uh here, I'm gonna walk to the other side over here.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Let me let me go.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I got let me deal with this, all right, So
let me explain something of y'all. Let me go ahead
and Rollmosha leaves up, because I need to deal with this,
this dumb ass right here. Uh So I got to
stand up on this dealing with this fool over here.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
All right.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And so I'm doing this because you got James Baldwin
over here, you got Hara Bella Fonte over here, you
got Oda b Wells Barnett over here, we got Angela
Davis right here, we got doctor.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
King right here.

Speaker 17 (18:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
And what y'all just heard is one of the stupidest,
dumbest comments you've ever heard in your life. First of all,
you have of this fool trying to call off Colin
Kaepernick for taking the knee, when if anybody actually read
the Constitution, the right the protest is in the first Amendment.

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That's just first, Okay, It's the first, not the second
or the third or forth. It's the first one. The
right to protest, the freedom to assembly.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And so when you stand in.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Front of Republicans and they all clapping about how folks
fought in wars, they actually fought food for the Constitution
include the first Amendment.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But Joe Dummas probably ain't never read it, especially when
we listened to you talk.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And then he goes on talking about Jim Crow and
what the formerly enslaved folks in Africa concent of what
they went through it and all the stuff folks went through.
Yet he is lieutenant governor for the same Republican party
they had a laser light targeting of black people.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
When it came to voting.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
The federal courts ruled against them and said there was
a laser light targeting of black voters by Republicans in
North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Same party that he represents.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
This same party has targeted black people across the board.
This same party so called right to life closing rural
hospitals all across.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
North Carolina because they did not want to expand medicaid.
Same party.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And so what I want to know, Lieutenant Governor, where
in the hell have you been instead of with black
folks who have been fighting the bigotry and racism of
Republicans in your state?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
How have you caught out your party? You have it?
And so in your warped mind, oh.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Black who knew black people owe reparations to I'm real
confused by that one. Please tell me, Mark Robinson, where
were you and the police shootings in that York state
when black folks were gunned down by cops. I didn't

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see your ass out there, and you a so called preacher,
I didn't see you saying anything.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
In fact, let me ask you this question, Mark Robinson.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
When the late Colon Powell went to North Carolina and
stood up and called out the racist voter suppression of
the governor at the time. McCrory, where were you, Did
you say anything, did you do anything?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Or were you.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Silent being that happy, smiling, cheesing negro spoop by the door.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm using that for a reason, just.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Happy to go along as opposed to calling out the
racism and bigotry from white Republicans.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
In your state. And now you want to be the governor.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Now you want to represent your party when your party
has done all sorts of foul, vindictive things to black folk,
and you have been silent, just smiling and cheessing the

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whole time. Oh yeah, you got to answer to that.
You're gonna have to answer to that. And see, I
dare you Mark Robinson. See it's real easy to say
that nonsense in front of a room full of white Republicans.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Come talk to black folks.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You got something to say, Come have that same conversation
with black folks, Mark Robinson. See, I don't care if
you're a Republican, you running Michael Steele, he was lieutendant
governor of Maryland. You get another brother who was lieutendant
governing with Hogan. He black Republican that didn't face me. Now,

(23:36):
if I differ with the more policy. I'm gonna say it,
but what you are doing, you tap dancing, what you're
doing is perform on a minstrel show. What you're doing,
it's been the main equivalent to diamond silk.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That's what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
And you should be called out for sounding like a
damn fool as you staying there shucking and jiving and
somehow thinking we're supposed to support that nonsense. No, open
your mouth or you're gonna get called out. What you
said in that speech was beyond illogical. And trust me,

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were gonna make sure every black person hears about it
if you get Republican nomination, to make sure you do
not become the governor of North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Real quick, I'll go through our three. I'm gonna go
you first. Wow.

Speaker 12 (24:40):
I did not see that speech, Rolin, So I'm glad
that you played it. And I just kept thinking every
time he was saying you owe it, you know, for
people who died in graves and marched across the marched
across to Edmund Patterson's Bridge, Like I'm like, what about
all of the white people who inflicted this on on
our ancestors. I mean, the bridge itself is named after

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klansman and Confederate soldier. Every single day we are seeing
these black Republicans who are doing everything possible to have
some type of time in the spotlight. And with this
day and age, with the Republican brand that we talked
about in the last last segment, to be a black
Republican in this space now you have to shuck and

(25:23):
jive in order to get that type.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Of national attention. Look at Hersha Walker.

Speaker 12 (25:28):
And this is also why Tim Scott is not going
to go anywhere either. If this is what black Republicans
have to do, especially coming off a great Black Republican
like a Colon Powell, if this is what they have
to do to get their time in the sun, they
got to stop.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
Because black power, black.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
Media, We're more empowered now, getting stronger by the day,
and we're going to call attention to it every single
day because there's no room for this in any way,
shape or form. He has no chance if it's up
to us, Julian, I mean, what.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
A horrible, distasteful distortion of history.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
This man as dumb as a post.

Speaker 10 (26:02):
Rowland, dumb as a post, because he's taken history and
he's distorted it in ways that are repugnant. Beyond that,
the clowning, that's what he was doing. He's clowning, mister
bo jangling tap dancing. If that's what he needs to
do to be governor, believe it, he's not going to
be governor. And it's not just the black folks. White

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folks do not want black fools. And that's what that is.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Is a black fool.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
He hadn't thought this speech through clearly, because who will
black people pay reparations?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
To see?

Speaker 10 (26:34):
Those of us who are reparations advocates, we understand what
reparations is about. We understand the wealth gap and the
ways that we close the wealth gap, but that includes reparations.
What how?

Speaker 11 (26:45):
What does black people pay reparations?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
What problem does that solve?

Speaker 10 (26:50):
So, I mean, he's just a GD fool and he
was empowered to be a ged fool and no one
has called him on his nonsense.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
But you're right it on the Congo's right. These black Republicans, you.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
Know you got what Roland, You've got some brother who's
trolling you. These Black Republicans are basically they need attention,
their attention deficit and they can't. They These are people
who twenty years ago but I don't want to be Democrats,
but they did want to stand in line, and the
Republicans uplifted them.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
And so here they are uplifted. But what do they
do with their uplift?

Speaker 10 (27:22):
There are Republicans you mentioned some of them who have
helped black people. But this fool here, that's all. Just say,
this fool here, somebody needs to find a comic book
and put him.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
On the cover.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Reader.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
Well, number one, he is completely on the outside of
his mind. I mean, I call what he's doing with
my frand heiti frequently says, which is trying to outwhipe
the white man. Any person, any black person who served
as a elected official, will tell you that racism is
bipartisan in both within the political parties. But one thing
that is true is that if you're going to be
a Republican, what racism looks like there is that you've

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got to outracist the races, because you have got to
be more racist against black people, and you must stand
for policies that are completely racist against black people in
order to make it anywhere within the Republican Party. And
that's what he's trying to do, and that is what
is required of today's Republican Party. So I'm frankly not
surprised that he said this. I'm not surprised that he's

(28:21):
advancing thoughts like this to the general public hoping that
people will not push back. But it's like everyone else
has said on the panel. And also you rolling, he
would never say this in front of black people because
they would call him on the carpet immediately. This only
works in front of Republicans, no one else.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Indeed, all right, folks, hold tight one second, we come back.
We'll talk about the VP ship to Africa. How important
is it? What does it mean for relations with the motherland.
Will discuss that next with one of the top experts
on Africa African American relations. Also, of course we'll talk
about took Across and Don Lemon out Fox News as
well as CNN. Also we'll talk about the standard general

(28:59):
deal with TECHNA could almost be dead if the FCC
doesn't take some action in the next few days. Plus
Phil Jackson, he ain't watching no more basketball because they
dare talk about Black lives matter.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
All them damn rings you've.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Got because of black players, and now you've got a
problem with Black lives matter. But you didn't mind them lives,
getting your ass some rings. We'll talk about all of
that on Rolling Back Unfilial, the Black Start Network, Back
at the Moment.

Speaker 15 (29:34):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, we
look at the history of emancipation around the including right
here in the United States, the so called end of slavery.
Trust me, it's a history lesson that bears no resemblance
to what you learned in school. Professor Chris Mndjopper, author, scholar,
amazing teacher, joins us to talk about his latest book,

(29:56):
Black Ghost of Empire, The Death of Slavery Failure of Emancipation.
He explains why the end of slavery was no end
at all, but instead a collection of laws and policies
designed to preserve the status quo of racial oppression.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
The real problem is that the problems that slavery and
invented have continued over time, and what reparations are really
about is saying, how.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Do we really transform society right and stop.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Racial violence which is so endemic, what we need to
do about it.

Speaker 15 (30:30):
On the next installment of the Black Table, right here
on the Black Star, Hi.

Speaker 13 (30:38):
Am Fostor Jackie Head Martin, and I have a question
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Let me tell you, living a balance life isn't easy.
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Speaker 2 (31:12):
Hey, I'm Donnie Simpson. Hi, I'm Eric Nolan, I'm Chante.

Speaker 17 (31:15):
Hi.

Speaker 14 (31:16):
My name is LaToya Luckett, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Vice President Kamala Harris in the storm trip to Africa
was of course to deepen relationships and partnerships with the continent.
But what needs to happen now that she's gotten back.
Melvin Foot is President of the Constituency for Africa. He
joints me here in the studio. Melvin, glad to have
you here.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
For folks who don't know you and the.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Organization for just give an understanding of how long you've
been working on issues way or to other other way.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
I've been working on Africa on my whole career. So
I went out of the US Peace Corps volunteer in
nineteen seventy three to Ira Tree in Ethiopia. And I've
been working on Africa every since. I've been to forty
five countries. The more I work across the issues and
I you know, a lot of success in shaping US
policies toward Africa.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And so what do you make of her trip, because
you have some people who have this whole idea that
all is performative, it's just going there, photo apps and
taking pictures.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Well, it's a good that she'd goes. I'm always happy
when our senior officials, such as the Vice President, go
to Africa. I certainly tried to push them to be
more substantive than they were. I think after the US
Africa Summit, they've been running people to Africa and taking
a lot of pictures and all of that. But you know,
we're also trying to push for substantive US policies toward Africa.

(32:50):
I think it lacks substance to a certain extent, but
I'm happy that she went, and certainly I'm trying to
support them in every regard.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
And say it lacks substance, what it? What do you
want to see?

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Well, we want to you know, they want a relationship
with Africa. They claiming that we're home. We were back
with Africa again, but you don't see the partnerships that
Africa really wants. They're not really talking to Africa. They're
pushing democracy for instance, how can we talk about democracy
in Africa after you know what we got here?

Speaker 18 (33:21):
You know.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Uh, they're more like lecturing Africa the pool to talk
into Africa. We want to trade policy, they really has
teeth to it. We want to see diaspora engagement. People
like myself should be fully engaged on the policy process,
but they put you in a box and hold you up.
But so we're pushing for a stronger uh policy engagement

(33:42):
from the diaspora. And we want to see programs that
Africans can really uh uh you know uh live up
to the next generation young people. We want the minerals
in Africa just like everybody else. We want diamonds, oil,
kotan uh. We love Congo for instance right now, but
we're not going to do anything to save the people
of Congo. We're there. They tried to get the minerals

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like the Russians and the Chinese and the French and
the British and everybody else.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
So when you say that, you know, we we love
the Congo or in terms of the things that that
we want, but the things that they also want.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Uh. We played a portion of the speech that the
President of Ghana gave. What he said enough of the conferences,
in the meetings, he said, this is not about action.
What we need to be doing, to need to be
doing moving forward to move this cotton together.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Well, the Africa is also disorganized. They came to the
US Africa summit back of December and they came on
their own airplane. Everybody had their own airplane, so nobody
had met before coming. And so Burundi saying come to Burundi,
Gambia says come to Gambia. Gambia is about the biggest
Washington d c. Where they should have caut used before
they came. It came with four agenda items, said mister Biden,

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we want these four things. They would have left for
two or three of them like that. Uh, they didn't
do that. They didn't cauc us with the diaspora. You know,
you got a billion people in Africa, but you got
a billion in the diaspora too. And they didn't call
me up and say Hey, what do you think we
can get out of them? I would have gave them
some advice. So part of this is the we still
need to unify.

Speaker 19 (35:12):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
You know, my mother always told me don't agonize or organize,
you know. But with the Africa world, we really are
noted sink and we really don't think together into their
one agenda.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
But isn't the part of that is because it's fifty
four countries and the reality is when the United States
go somewhere, it's about the United States and no one
else and so and and I remember listening to I
was at the NDIA All Star Game where they had
their Newsmaker's breakfast and then we're talking about Africa, uh
and and individuals on the panel were talking about it

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as it was a nation as opposed to a continent
comprise of nations. And so isn't it also difficult when
you because you're going to have leaders who only care
about their country and no one else.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Yeah, But there are also framing now the African African
Continental Free Trade Area, which is the largest market in
the world, and that's coming together and I'm very much
supportive of it. But they will enable Africans to trade
with Africans. I mean, Kenya should be trading with Nigerians,
you know, and because they're being hoodwinked every at every
corner to get those minerals, and so if they're divided

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and fragmented, it makes it easier for these other countries
to access to their mineral wealth. So Africa paying lip
service to it. They're trying to move into a unified front. Sure,
you got fit to four countries within the continent, but
there should be one unified market. There should be one
unified really policy towards the world. They're running around going

(36:37):
to these conference. They're going to be in Russia for
a conference. Russia will be telling them a whole bunch
of other things. They were just in Europe, they were
just in the US, so they're getting all these mixed messages,
you know. Until Africa gets some sort of sense of unity,
I don't think they have a chance of dealing with
the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Of course, is from my panel. Let's see Juliana first,
Hey Mail, how you doing.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 10 (37:02):
We were just together at international conference in stead of
the Black world in the diaspora, help us understand why
so many African American people in particular, but other in
the diaspora really do not see a connection to the
African continent. And it's tends to be one of the
issues in terms of how we could advocate when so

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many of us are just connected.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
We could advocate for other things, but not for the
African continent.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Tell me why, well, I think most Americas are uninformed,
under informed, and misinformed about Africa. And one of the
things that I'm pushing the US government to do is
to educate Americans about Africa. We know what to do,
seminar workshops, town hall meetings, and otherwise. There should be
a lot more blacks than the Peace Corps. For instance,
Peace Corps, which started my career, two percent are black.

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So we need to quadrouple that in a hurry to
get more young African Americans to go to Africa to
understand it, because the information, by and largest is absolutely distorted,
and most of us when we think about Africa, we're
thinking about famine, we're thinking about ideo, I mean, we
think about all this crazy stuff. And Africans also mixed
about us. They've been told that we are all gang

(38:12):
bangers and murderers and this kind of thing. So Africans
don't want to deal with us and the Africans who
they do bring over here to go to school and
so forth. They train them out in Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota,
far away from black people as they can. By the
time they land in Washington to work in the policy environment,
they don't want anything to do with African Americans. So

(38:32):
to me, a big part of this is unity, and
how do we go about established And you know, an
African African American, I'm leaving tomorrow to go to Nigeria
to participate in the Global African Diaspora Conference in Abucha,
and you know my message is going to be the
same thing. Unity. How do we go about getting real
unity beyond you know the talk? How do we get

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to the point where we can actually work together on policy,
work together on various strategies to get Africa people worldwide united.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I'm a Congo, mister Foote.

Speaker 12 (39:09):
I have such a great deal of respect for you,
and so many questions I'd love to ask, but I'm
just gonna stick with one for tonight. Do you feel
like the United States government really has a strong appreciation
for Africa and African leadership? Because part of my challenge
is I see corporations and government embracing who I consider

(39:30):
to be the wrong African So, for example, you talked
about Congo, Well, look at what part of what happened
with Congo came from the regime of Kagame in Rwanda.
But yet I see Rwanda Kagame sitting front row at
the NBA All Star Game because he's helping expand basketball
across the continent, so he becomes a friend of the
United States. Do you feel like there's a little bit

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and then we talk about what's happening in Sudan and
we're only talking about that as it relates to Americans
being evacuated. Do we have a backwards view of who
we should be working with found the African continent?

Speaker 6 (40:00):
I think the United States has always been wrong about Africa.
I mean, the first policy was to bring us on
slave ships to the United States. We haven't improved very
much after that, you know, And honestly, they're the desire
to try to do better. I think President Biden and
Kamala Harris are trying to do better, but we have

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a long way to go to have an effective policy
that makes a lot of sense. Biden committed like five
hundred billion dollars. I think the number was for Africa
that they announced that the US Africa Summit. But when
you break that down and say where is that money,
You'll be hard pressed to find it.

Speaker 20 (40:40):
You know.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
I'm talking to some of the ambassador in some of
the countries and Mally, for instance, ambassador said US has
committed a billion and a half a year to Molli,
but she can't find it. They're not building schools, they're
not building roads. Where are that billion dollars?

Speaker 16 (40:56):
Plus?

Speaker 6 (40:56):
I think a lot of ends up in lobbies here
in Washington. They never even make it to the continent,
so a lot of our stuff is off left. Africans
are tired of US just trying to the lobby to
lecture us about their state of democracy, about various policy issues.
I think the BIODN administration really wants to do the
right thing. That's a lot of great people working in

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this administration, but it's important for people like myself to
continue to push them to do better and to actually
come up with something that makes a lot of sense
for not only Africa, but for the United States too.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Rita, mister Foote, thank you.

Speaker 9 (41:33):
For your work and thank you for being so direct
in your comments, My question is, for so long the
conversation was that other countries needed to invest in the
continent of Africa and not just forget about Africa. Now
we're starting to see investment by foreign powers, and a
lot of folks are skeptical, rightfully so, because it looks
like an attempt that in the future this will reduce
autonomy for Africa, or that the intentions are to control

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Africa instead of.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Really assist Africa.

Speaker 9 (41:57):
What is it that you think is the appropriate balance
and what should what should other countries or even other
nations be doing as far as supporting Africa in an authentic,
legitimate way.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Well, I think Africa it self is going to have
to step up. I'm rather disappointed in the Africa Union
in many regards. When it came to the fruition, it
sounded like really was going to move very forcefully on
a lot of these issues, really mobilizing that, you know,
the African viewpoints and things, so that they can have
a real impact with the World Bank and with the

(42:31):
International Monetary Fund and all these other global entities. But
in fact I find it it's a tiger kind of
without without teeth, and you know, when they came to
Washington for the summit and had not met before coming
here that said everything right there. I mean, the Africa
Union is supposed to be the vehicle by which the
African opinions are unified and organized and brought forth, but

(42:55):
it's not yet having done that. I have a lot
of faith in the next inner. Something like eighty percent
of the African populations under thirty years old, and these
young people are watching rolland Martin and the other They
watching everything be a cable, and so I think that
the young people that I encounter are looking for a
new Africa in Africa that's actually going to stand up

(43:17):
and claim it's is placed. So I put a lot
of faith in this next generation coming up, and I
think it's incumbent upon people like myself to do everything
we can to prepare the next generation, both here in
the United States and across the continent, to to move
the constant forward. I think the strategy is one hundred year,
two hundred year strategy. It's not going to happen overnight

(43:40):
right now. Everybody just want those minerals, and they're doing
everything possible, saying anything that they need to say to
get access to the strategic minerals in Africa.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
All right, Melville, well appreciate it, thanks.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
A lot, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
All right, Going to go to break, we come back.
Folks will talk some headline first black and missing. Also
the woman who killed the capital filled doctor. Right, she's
already out of prison. Really, we'll tell you about that.
Next to roll about unpoaches on a black stud network,
Hatred on.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
The streets, a horrific scene. White nationalists rally that descended
into deadly violence.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
White people are moving their their minds.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
As a angry proach.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Trump Mark Storm to the US capital.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
Who's show.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
We're about to see the lies what I call white
minority resistance.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 12 (44:36):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 21 (44:43):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carol Anderson, every
university calls white rage.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
As a backlash.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Is the rise of the Proud Boys and the Boogaaloo
boys America. There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 22 (45:00):
This country just getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
People the food, that they're taking our jobs, they're taking
our resources, they're taking our women.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
This is white field.

Speaker 13 (45:31):
On a next A Balanced Life with me, doctor Jackie,
we talked about a hard, cold fact not all healthcare
is created equal in this country, especially if you're a
person of color.

Speaker 23 (45:41):
So many of us black families we rely upon each
other heavily. A lot of us aren't necessarily sure how
to best communicate with our.

Speaker 13 (45:49):
Healthcare providers, how to take charge and balance the skills
your life may depend on it. That's next on a
Balanced Life on Blackstar Network.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Black TV does matter. Dang it. Hey, what's up, yadish boy?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Jacob Latimore and you're now watching Roland Martin right now?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
All right, folks.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Today's black and missing is a young man. This is
out of Connecticut, folks. Elias Freemont, a Bridgeport, Connecticut, has
been missing since April eighth.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
A seventeen year olds, six feet.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Tall, weighs one hundred ninety pounds with black hair and
brown eyes. Animal information about Elias Freemont should call the Bridgeport,
conect Police Department at two zero three five eight one
five one zero zero two zero three five A one
five to one zero zero the former Coppa Minnesota who
shot and killed Dante Wright. She's actually out of prison
and Kim Potter left a prison sale this morning after

(47:11):
serving sixteen months of her two year sentence. She will
serve the remaining months of her sentence on supervisor release.
Potter was convicted of first and second degree manslaughter and
writes April twenty twenty one death she shot and killed
right during the traffic stop. She claims she intended to
use her taser and mistakenly fired her service weapon. Last summer,
the city of Brooklyn Center approved a three point twenty

(47:32):
five million dollar settlement for Wright's family in the shooting.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Jesus Roneda sixteen months. That's it. First of all, she
should have got more than two years.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
And you know, this is why activists have said for
so long that black lives do not matter, because we
see that even when folks are held accountable, police officers
are held accountable for killing black people, you can easily
find black people who have been given more.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Time just for having small oounces of weed.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
So, I mean, the.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
System is really broken on this and on because we've
had so little advancement in police accountability measures.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I wouldn't be.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
Surprised if she wasn't able to come out and work
as a police officer once she's completely out of correctional
control meaning off of continued supervision.

Speaker 12 (48:15):
OMCONGO and going off at the last point that that
Vernita said about her getting the job again, when I
was reading the mother of Dante Wright was saying, one
thing that helps give her comfort is knowing that she
won't be walking the streets as an officer again. And
I was like, in this society, we can't guarantee that.
And to be quite honest, nowadays she's more likely to
get a job again. And you know his mom she

(48:37):
said she had a partial stroke and suffered some you know,
blurred vision and stuff. The effects of the families and
what happens in these communities we don't talk about enough.
And she has to live with coming home and not
see her child forever. And when I saw this story,
I'm like, after sixteen months only, And so this is
another reason coming back to the election George Floyd Police
Reform bill, because a woman like her, woman like Potter,

(48:59):
should never be allowed out to hold a gun as
a police officer ever again, and we can make something
like that happen if we get twenty twenty four of
the election and get the George Floyd Police Reform Act passed.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Folks to throw out of Florida.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Another essentially shooting after a harmless mistake, this time again
in the Sunshine State. Antonio Caackavelli shot the car of
Walders Thomas Junior and Diamond D'Arville. The pair went to
the wrong address trying to deliver an instat cart order
April fifteenth. Thomas was on the phone with the customer
trying to find the correct address. Thomas and d'arvill told
police they attempted to reverse out of the area, but

(49:34):
hit a boulder. Cacka Valley approached them aggressively and grabbed
the driver's door window. He pulled out in Smith and
Wesson shield a handgun, firing three shots towards the cars tires.
No charges were filed against anyone involved. Police say each
party's actions appeared justifies based on their perceived circumstances. What
the hell, Julie Hank Damn these folks, they just want

(49:55):
to shoot first.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
This is crazy. I mean, it's just it's crazy.

Speaker 11 (50:01):
Coming behind what happened to the young brother in Kansas
City coming.

Speaker 10 (50:05):
Behind the two little white cheerleaders who were shot at
because they win the wrong car.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
And this is just insanity.

Speaker 10 (50:13):
And so these people do not need to have guns.
At the end of the day, they do not need
to have guns. And this particular case, I don't believe
that the police would file no charges. But basically that's
like saying you can get away with it if you
want to, just like Kim Potter. I mean, sixteen months
is nothing for taking somebody's life. And it almost makes

(50:33):
me speechless. It looks like her ugly self sitting there crying.
Why are you crying, lady, you killed somebody. Stop crying.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
You know own what you did.

Speaker 10 (50:41):
But you got to give them to the judge of
the jury. I mean to give her two years. And
in that state, if you get two years, you serve
I think is eighty percent or seventy percent of your
sentence and you're under supervised probation.

Speaker 11 (50:53):
She should not ever o but Congo says she should never.

Speaker 10 (50:56):
Be a police officer, She should never be any kind
of officer, should never be able to put a hand
on a gun again or a person again. People need
to go by her house quite frankly and pick it
and show that rage.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Well again, she's already out of prison.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Also, now, folks, we told you the sheer nonsense that
is happening at Fox News and so things. You know,
tuck across and got fired. I'm discussed that a little bit.
They still got idiots like Will Caine and look, I
know Will. We used to debate all the time. I
used to crush when we had CNN. But you want
to see stupid. This is what this fool had to

(51:33):
say about the racist eighty four year old white man
who shot the unarmed black teen Ralph Yarol in Kansy.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
The Missouri Hard turned.

Speaker 24 (51:43):
To a sad and tragic story out of Kansas City,
where a young man sixteen years old appeared to have
gone to the wrong residence. The man inside, the eighty
four year old man inside, responded to the young man
at his door with gunshots.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Now you can imagine yourself on.

Speaker 24 (51:59):
Both sides of this door, going to the wrong residence
to pick up your siblings. Literally got the wrong a
debt address, and all of a sudden, as you're standing
at the doorbell shots ringing out. You can also imagine
yourself on the other side of an eighty four year
old man with a six foot tall guy outside your
door reportedly pulling on the glass outer door to come inside.

(52:20):
Here's what I would tell you. This is a tragedy,
but there is zero evidence that it is racist. And
that's the narrative today that it is ringing a doorbell
while being black. I will reserve judgment, as we all should,
until we get the facts to arrive at a conclusion.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Will Ralph y'all is five eight, one hundred and forty pounds.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
He ain's six feet tall.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Okay, we also know Ralph y'arl's grandson that his grandfather
is racist.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Out of his own mouth.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
So what does to say about you, Will Caine that
you immediately leap to Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
We can't call it this, Yeah, we can, and we can. Also,
he was yanking on the door.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Really, I'm sorry registered that in the police report, Will,
that he was yanking on the door.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Please tell us that. Did you also skip over the part, Will.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Caine where he fired and while Ralph was on the
ground fired.

Speaker 25 (53:45):
Again, Oh I guess we skipped that part. This, folks,
is the BS that.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
You get on Fox News.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And trust me, if Will Kane had said that crap
on Seeing In when we were there and when we
were debating, when I was debating him on Soul of
Dads Show, I would have ripped him the shreds.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
But see, Will now knows that he speaks in an
echo chamber.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
He now speaks on a network where facts don't matter,
where they can say whatever they want to say and
there are no repercussions. And that's the reality of Fox
News today. Will you sound ridiculous, You know you sound ridiculous.

(54:45):
And the man's own grandson, who I think knows him
a hell of a lot better than you, has made
it clear.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh and by the way, Will.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
The grandson said all he did was watch Fox News
all day.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
And he said.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
That that is what led to his views on race.
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Speaker 1 (58:23):
All right, folks, welcome back to Roland Martin nonfiltered. So
I keep telling y'all, Republicans claim local control, they hate
big government, but that's only when they're the ones who
are not in control. And so in Memphis and Nashville
they have independent civilian led police review boards to look

(58:46):
at police shootings and things along as such. Well, the
Republicans and the legislature in Tennessee they don't give a
damn so they don't like the fat at The folks
in Memphis and Nashville have the audacity to determine how
they should govern Memphis and Nashville, but they't just them.

(59:09):
In Missouri, Republicans want to take over the Saint Louis
Police Department like they have control of the police department
in Kansas City. Because the Republicans cannot stand when the
cops are being held accountable. And so Thursday, legislature Republicans
voted to abolish both groups in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
In Nashville with guys out and call for the video.
All right, here we go now.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
In Nashville, they were implemented in twenty eighteen after an.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Officer involved shooting.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Okay, now it was the first time a Nashville police
officer have been charged with murder.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yeah, it happened.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Now the decision to limit these groups is all about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Now, first of all, the the delimited groups reverses and
let me be real clear, let me see this again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Nashville voted to create the group. Fifty eight point eight
percent of the voters approved the creation. So basically Republicans
and Tennessee are saying, screw the actual voters of Nashville,
because Republicans in the legislature they frankly look at Nashville

(01:00:29):
and Memphis, the same of the Republicans Insissippi look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
At Jacks, Mississippi. We don't like the Democrats are running
these cities.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Jill Fitcherck, the ZECI director of the Metro Nashville Community
Oversight Boards, She joins me right now, Jill, glad to
have you here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I mean, this is utterly nonsensical. And what this just
proves Republicans do not give a damn what the voters think.
They don't care about local control. Their deal is we
got power, we will tell y'all what to do.

Speaker 29 (01:01:01):
Right, That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
What we've been doing in Nashville, as in the Community
Oversight Board, is continuing to allow the voters to I'm sorry,
the voters who voted for this, to have a voice
in how they want.

Speaker 11 (01:01:17):
To be policed. And what we've seen is this legislation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
From the moment that it was in it was enacted,
from twenty nineteen up have continuously tried to interfere and
circumvent the will of the people here. One hundred and
thirty four thousand, one hundred and thirty five people voted
to have police oversight the way that we're doing it
in this city, and so I knew that this would

(01:01:44):
this was like an impending thing that would end up happening.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But at the end of the day, we've been.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Doing excellent work. And I still don't know why why
this was pushed forward this particular legislation session.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
All right, so what legal recourse do y'all have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
How does the legislature get to override what voters approved it?
I thought voters get the final say.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
So, yeah, I mean, I think that it's an unconstitutional bill.
I think it's a targeted bill. I think it's retaliatory.
They have tried to just really overtake Nashville in general.
There's been this, you know, a buzz about the you know,
because the city didn't allow for a Republican national convention.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
But I believe that that's just not accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I think it's more sinister than that. I think that
police accountability, especially after the Tyree Nichols brutal killing, that
we should have more oversight.

Speaker 29 (01:02:47):
Opposed to less.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
They want to create what they call a standard type
of oversight across the across the state, which is really
a less effective, you know, way of doing oversight. And
it really is just, you know, like I said earlier
to someone else, it's just a glorified intake system. All
you do is take your repository for taking in complaints
from citizens. What we have now is citizens have a voice.

(01:03:13):
They get to come and talk about their experience and
it really is cathargic and it's healing for them to
be able to address this in front of a body
and speak about what they have encountered. Taking that away
from the citizens means that they lose a voice in
this process, right.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
You know, this is why I always talk about the
need for black people to not support giving more and
more funding to police, because what you have here is
a situation where this board that's supposed to be holding
police officers accountable and advancing police accountability has now been disbanded.
You've got the situation in Mississippi where they're setting up
an entire other system to control black folks with the

(01:03:55):
criminal legal system. And all of this has come from
more and more money to policing. It's not going to
work out well for black folks to continue to elect
black politicians who are going to go along with giving
money towards policing. So I'd like to ask the guests,
you know, what are your thoughts around how much money
we spend on our budgets towards police.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
I think the both the budgets are inflated. I mean,
our national our budget is like two hundred and eighty
five million dollars. Our budget to do accountability is one
point five million. It increased, you know, by five hundred
thousand dollars last BUS fiscal year. But what it shows
is that oversight of policing continues to be the last

(01:04:38):
thing on cities and states mind. Police officers are being
more militarized. Our city included, we have had, you know,
all kinds of issues that if you know, if you look,
Tennessee has been in the national spotlight for policing issues
over the last year. I mean, they have just one

(01:04:59):
thing after the other, from body from editing body worn
cameras to you know, sex rings within police departments, to
brutalization of citizens, and we continue to give them money
and pay out millions and millions of dollars for police misconduct.
And so yeah, I think that police, I think the

(01:05:20):
cities and council members and those who have the power
to look at why we continue to pour more money
into policing and less money into affordable housing and you
know in other areas like health care and things of
that nature, mental health care, job, you know, creation, and
and you know in other areas like education. But we

(01:05:43):
continue to use the police department and their budget to
handle the social ills of our cities.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Miss Schietta.

Speaker 12 (01:05:55):
I was wondering, is the only recourse for those of
us who are out side of Tennessee. Is it to
put pressure on the sponsors of people who support these Republicans.
Is it to support more get out the voting efforts
to get new politicians in twenty twenty four? What is
it that we can do from the outside to help
this get corrected in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Yeah, I think what we've been talking about is really
trying to just this. Across the nation police oversight accountability boards.
You know, they're growing, people are wanting them more and more.
In our state, of course, as we see they want
them less. What we would like to see is people

(01:06:39):
like contacting our governor talking about why it's important. Right
after this Tyree Nichols has only been dead a little
over ninety days.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
He was brutally murdered.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
And at the same time that we even the people
in Memphis who want more police accountability, who want to
have oversight investigatory power, which is what they're stripping away.
They're stripping away our power to investigate these complaints, putting
them and putting in place a review board, a review committee,

(01:07:11):
and you know, I just think it's a slap in
the face to the parents of Tyree Nichols. So I
think putting more pressure on politicians, putting more pressure on
this at the city level to stand with us, to
stand with our oversight boards, to speak up and speak
out against this type of legislation. It's very harmful to

(01:07:33):
our communities, especially the communities of black people, black and
brown people specifically, and I think that they have to
be brave and courageous to stand against this kind of
harmful legislation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Julli on.

Speaker 10 (01:07:47):
You know, many cities have community oversight boards, but many
other cities do not. They have been frankly, quite unpopular,
even though more and more cities have them. The other
thing that has tended to happen is they have very
degrees of power. In other words, some of them have
subpoena power. Others simply have they listen. All they do
is listen, as you said, is cathartic, but it's not

(01:08:10):
doesn't change anything.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
What are your takeaways?

Speaker 10 (01:08:12):
What kind of advice would you give cities who don't
have overside boards now but would like to have them.
What would you tell them about your experience with the
community oversight board.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Yeah, I think that our board is unique. It was
set up through a charter amendment and went through a referendums.
Most community oversight boards and just review committees or police
accountability boards are in place through legislation that's enacted by
local government. What this took a big organizing effort for

(01:08:50):
organizers to come together to push for this to be,
you know, on a referendum, and it was ratified by,
like you said, fifty eight and a half.

Speaker 11 (01:09:00):
Percent of the voters.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
And so what I would suggest to them is to
do your research. What is most effective in your city,
what the people would like. What we are is a
hybrid entity.

Speaker 10 (01:09:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
We can do investigations, we can do research, We can
look into any criminal justice issue within this city and
make recommendations. And you know, I think that that hybrid
model is the best practice model. And so I would
say for people to at least talk to your local legislators,
your mayors, and your commissioners or city council people, but

(01:09:36):
also begin to talk to the people in your communities
to see what they want, how do they want to
be policed, and how do they want to hold the
police departments accountable, Because it's the taxpayers that are paying
their salaries, and so we should all have a stake
in how we want to be policed in our communities.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
All right, then, well, look, good luck, keep fighting a
good fight, Jill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
We'll keep covering this. We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Thanks a lot, all right, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
The last twenty four hours in mainstream white media has
been crazy. Yesterday, Comcast drops a bomb that NBC Universal
CEO Jeff Shell out the door after acknowledging an inappropriate

(01:14:46):
relationship with a staff for anchor at CNBC. Her attorneys
came out of set that her name was released. She
apparently filed a sexual harassment claim against Jeff Shell as

(01:15:06):
a result. If y'all go to my iPad, you will
see that lawyer for Hatlee Gamble says she filed out
sexual harassment and sex discrimination complaint at the company. Shell
acknowledged they had affairs several years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Not only that NBC.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Comcast said he ain't getting no severance. He ain't getting severance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
So that was on Sunday. Then today this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
The first shoot that dropped Fox took a Carlson out
at Fox News.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Fired at Fox News.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
A lot of people initially said, oh, it had to
be because of the dominion lawsuit them having a payout
of seven hundred and eighty seven point five million dollars settlement.
The White nationally took a Carlson of course was involved
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
But it wasn't just that The La Times is reporting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
The La Times is reporting that it was Rupert Murdoch,
with input through several board members, who decided to fire
took her Carlson directly. It says right here from the
La Times people familiar with the situation who were not
authorized to comment publicly. So the decision of fire Carlson
came straight from Fox Core chairman Rupert Murdoch, with input

(01:16:20):
from board members and other Fox Corporation executives. Now, Tucker
Carls's last show was on Friday, all right, he said
I'm gonna seyell on Monday, uh see, and is reporting
that he was literally given ten minutes heads up before
the decision was actually made. Now you might say, well, okay,
why did Ruper do that? Back to the iPad, Remember

(01:16:42):
it was a producer at Fox News who worked on
a real Bard Ramos show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
It took a Carlson show.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Abby Grosberg, who fought a discrimination lawsuit, claiming a number
of things, including the toxic work environment, ontock HER's staff,
how they used the C word all the time describing
women there, How it was just misogynistic, sexist, you name it,
all of that. But Tucker didn't get fired just by himself,

(01:17:10):
sold in his executive producer, who she also named in
her lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Okay, now you got that. Literally not even thirty minutes after.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
People are talking about the firing of Tucker Carlson, then
Don Lemmic gets fired as CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
All right, so he's been on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Thin ice because supposedly back and forth with Caitlyn Collins
and Poppy Harlow. Of course, John Malone may clear when
a Discovery took over that he wanted them to be
a little bit different, more like Fox News, and the
reporting Chris Licked has made it clear he wants the
network to attract more conservatives. He wanted them to be

(01:17:54):
more down the middle, less rancor all that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Then the far folks at the New York Times, they
are saying that this interview last week with the Republican
nominee for president, who's Indian American, this played a role
and in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Dawn getting fired. Listen to the interview.

Speaker 30 (01:18:18):
Due respect, I find your explanation reductive and actually insulting,
including the Black Americans to say that black people today,
compared to my theyics to four eighteen sixty five, haven't
made progress in part because of the freedoms we secured
and the Second Amendment was the king.

Speaker 19 (01:18:33):
I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking
to me in my ear, so hang on one second.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
So to say that that black people, say.

Speaker 30 (01:18:39):
What you said again, black people secured their freedoms after
the Civil War is a historical fact.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
On just study it.

Speaker 30 (01:18:45):
Only after their Second Amendment rights were secured.

Speaker 19 (01:18:47):
There was not secured their freedoms after the Civil War.
That it's not your You are discounting reconstruction and discounting
a whole host of things that happened after the Civil War.
When it comes to African Americans, including the whole reason
that the Civil rights movement happened, it is because Black
people did not secure their freedoms after the Civil War
and that things turned around. People tried to change the
freedoms that were supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
To you know how they got it.

Speaker 30 (01:19:09):
They got their Second Amendic rights and they actually got
the NRA played a big role in that, but today
down the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
NRA did not play. That's a lie that they did
not play a big role. This is just historical fact.
But the storical fact. The part that I find is
you say it's historical. Part that I.

Speaker 30 (01:19:23):
Find insulting is when you say today black Americans don't
have those rights after we have gone through that Civil
rights revolution.

Speaker 19 (01:19:30):
You are sitting here telling an African American about the
rights and what you find insulting about the way I live.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
The skin I live in every day. Here's where you
and all the freedoms when it black.

Speaker 19 (01:19:39):
And white, that black people don't have and that black
people do have.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Well, here's where you and I have a different point
of view.

Speaker 30 (01:19:44):
I think we should be able to express our views
regardless of the color of our skin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
We should have this debate without me regarding you.

Speaker 30 (01:19:50):
As a black man, insulting that you're regarding you as
a fellow citizen.

Speaker 19 (01:19:53):
You're sitting to hear whatever ethnicity you are explaining.

Speaker 30 (01:19:56):
To me what it's like to be black, whatever ethnicity.
I'm gonna tell you what I am. I'm an Indian American.
I'm proud of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
But I think we should have this debate. Black white
doesn't matter. I think we should have content of the
idea to do it.

Speaker 19 (01:20:07):
You should do it in an honest way and their way,
and what you're doing is not an honest and fair way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
We appreciate you coming on with you. Do respect, Don.
I look forward to catching that conversation. Thank you, the conversation,
Thank you so much, thank you. All right, so's so,
let's unpacked this all right now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
First of all, if the New York Times is saying
that that interview was part of the reason why he
got fired, uh, that's weak as hell. I was also
crazy if you actually saw the whole deal. Don was
not trying to even be in the conversation. Poppy kept
asking if he wanted to say something. He was like,
now I'm good, I'm good. Uh, and then he finally
finally did Damn. In hindsight, probably wanted to stay quiet.

Speaker 17 (01:20:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
I think probably what pissed them off was that comment
whatever ethnicity you are, okay, if you just listen to
the interview and how they think in terms of how
how you're supposed to see and then how they operate,
that could have been seen as dismissive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
All Right, Here's what I need people to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
And whenever these things happen, in these fire rings and
stuff like that, I love how even during the whole
Dominion deal, everybody kept talking about how powerful the power
that the Fox News host had, that Sean Hendy had,
the power Tucker Cross had had, how they were even
more powerful than their bosses.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
CEO Suzanne Scott. Y'all heard me say this when we
talk about athletes. Lebron he's the most powerful NBA player.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Do y'all see the shirt I got on It says
black owned. The only people see take that part off.
The only people who got power of the people with
the own part. It don't matter if Tucker was getting
twelve fifteen million dollars a year, It don't matter. If

(01:21:53):
Don was getting three four, five six million, whatever he
was getting. It doesn't matter that Jeff Shell was a
CEO YO and he made twenty one million last year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
All three of them employees.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
And I keep telling y'all, employees can't get fired. Owners
can't get fired now. Owners can voluntarily step down, they
can resign, they can retire, never get fired. Rupert could
turn the company over to his sons. He still owned

(01:22:30):
the stock. So I need y'all to understand it was
a target on Don's back from the moment Warner took
over the company. John Malone said it, y'all, this say
this real clear now, Don, y'all got.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Don's statement put up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Don released a statement to the press where he said
I was terminated. I was informed this morning by my
agent that I have been terminated. By seeing it, I
am stunned. After seventeen years of CNN, I would have
thought that someone in management would.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Have had the decency to tell me directly.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
At no time was I ever given any indication that
I would not be able to continue to do the
work I have.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Love at the network. It is clear that there are
some larger issues at played.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
With that said, I want to thank my colleagues and
the many teams I have worked with for an incredible run.
They're the most talented journalists in the business, and I
wish them all the best.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Now do there Don been there seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Those folks at CNN PR did issue a statement with
regards to Don's statement. Go to my iPad, They said,
Don Lemon's statement, but this morning's events is inaccurate. He
was offered an opportunity to meet with management, but instead
released a statement on Twitter. Let me say this again, y'all,

(01:23:49):
it was a bullseye on his back when he got
moved from prime time to the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
That wasn't no promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
He went from having a show he was the host
to a show with three other hosts, one that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Got no business being there on the set. Kaitlyn Collins.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
She ain't ready. She ain't ready for prime time. She
not okay, she way too green. Okay, she need to
go back and get some more experience.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
So you know all these instances, the Nikki Haley comment
passed prime big screw up, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
But the deal is they were bullseye was there, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
All the stories you saw dropped the variety story of
the story over the weekend, saying White House pre Secretary
Kareem Jean Pierre with the peer on the show with him,
chose you with somebody else, Kareem. They released the statements
said Kareem that denies that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Y'all. All those stories came inside, seeing in and so I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Just trying to explain to y'all, you gotta be aware
of what's going on, Tucker.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
They thought they were. Tucker didn't learn nothing for Bill
O'Reilly see ruper like damn.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
I just paid seven hundred and eighty seven pointy five million.
I spent thirty two thirty five forty million on settlements
with Bill o' raleigh. Now I'm gonna have to spend
another ten to fifteen to twenty million on this other
woman cause a Tucker. Yeah, your ass gotta go, y'all.
Employees ain't got no powerwork. They will bounce your ass

(01:25:24):
in a heartbeat, and it don't matter. And so they
are all these people who are mad, who are upset, y'all.
That's what they do. It was ten years ago, April
fifth or April sixth, I think it was April fifth.
It was ten years ago, April fifth. Where was my

(01:25:45):
last day at CNN? That was ten years ago? And
see here's the whole deal.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
You know the game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I told somebody this, y'all. I joined CNN in two
thousand and seven. Do y'all know when I plotted my
exit from Seeing in the day I joined in two
thousand and seven. Let me say it again, I started
planning in my exit the day I started. Those jobs

(01:26:12):
ain't guaranteed, no hell Disney this week is beginning their
second round of layoffs. They will lay folks off of
a heart beat. So understand what you saw is that
actions will beget actions.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
That's what's going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
And for those who are happened to see took across
to the white nationalists, gone, I'm one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Just keep in mind he replaced Bill O'Reilly and he
was ten times worse than Bill O'Riley.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
So you might get it even more wild white nationalists
because Fox News still want that white nationalists money. That
ain't change one bit. As for Don Lemit, he gonna
get his millions. Oh, he gonna get his millions. Apparently
he has signed a new contract when he went to

(01:27:09):
the Morning show that they gonna pay that off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
They ain't got no problem paying it off.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
That's what they do. They'll pay that whole. They'll pay
the money off in a heartbeat. But just do understand, y'all,
these folks is all about again what they do and
how they're gonna do it. And so again his Brian
Stelter go to my iPad. He reports Carlson's contract was

(01:27:37):
renewed in twenty twenty one. He will be paid out
for the rest of his contract. He was getting by
twenty million per year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
He gonna get his money. It don't matter. He'll trust
fund baby anyway. And so he gonna get his money.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
And what you also have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
You know, these folks are gonna sit These folks are
gonna sit here, keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
So just understand this is what these companies do. They
gonna sit here, get rid of folks in a heartbeat.
But like I said, when you're the honor, can't nobody
to get rid of you. But God, just remember that.
I'll be back next on the Black Table with me

(01:28:19):
Greg called.

Speaker 15 (01:28:20):
We look at the history of emancipation around the world,
including right here in the United States, the so called
end of slavery. Trust me, it's a history lesson that
bears no resemblance to what you learned in school. Professor Chrismanjoppra, author, scholar,
amazing teacher, joins us to talk about his latest book,
Black Ghost of Empire, The Death of Slavery and the

(01:28:42):
Failure of Emancipation. He explains why the end of slavery
was no end at all, but instead a collection of
laws and policies designed to preserve the status quo. Of
racial a question.

Speaker 8 (01:28:54):
The real problem is that the problems that slavery invented
have continued over time, and what reparations are really about
is saying, how do we really transform society right and
stop racial violence which is so endemic, what we.

Speaker 15 (01:29:11):
Need to do about it. On the next installment of
the Black Table, right here on the Black Star.

Speaker 26 (01:29:23):
or not, from politics, from music and entertainment. It's a
huge part of our lives, and we're going to talk
about it every day right here on the Culture with
me Baraji Muhammad, only on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 19 (01:29:46):
Hi, I'll doing it's your favorite funny girl, Amanda Field.

Speaker 14 (01:29:48):
Hi, I'm Anthony Brown from Anthony Brown and Group Therapy,
Alanna Well, and you are watching Roland Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Well, everybody nay Mama loved talking trash. Now we got
a cultural appropriator of Phil Jackson, who won a lot
of rings because of Black ball players like Michael Jordan,
Scottie Pippen, Shaquille O'Neil, Kobe Bryant and others.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Now he decides to go on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
He says, since the Black Sister Black Lives Matter protests
I ain't watched on NBA games because I don't like
what they were doing with all of the slogans on
the floor and the uniforms press play.

Speaker 27 (01:30:59):
Do you still watch a lot of basketball or no,
I don't tell me about that when and did you
stop immediately from the time you stopped coaching, No.

Speaker 18 (01:31:10):
I didn't. I watched some of the game evolve and decided,
and they went into the lockout year and they did
something that was kind of wanky. They did a bubble
down in Orlando and all the teams that could qualify
went down there and stayed down there no audience, and

(01:31:32):
they had things on their back, like you know Justice
and yeah, I meane a little funny thing like you know,
Justice just went to the basket and Equal Opportunity just
knocked him down. And somebody had another name for a
guy who was Jersey in the back of a jersey
had some other slogan. So my grandkids thought that was

(01:31:55):
pretty funny to play up those names. I couldn't watch that.
And the Lakers won, actually they won one that year.

Speaker 27 (01:32:04):
And you feel like it just made little of the game,
like it made it like a side show. What do
you think it was? That turned you off, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
It was.

Speaker 18 (01:32:14):
Even had slogans on the floor on the baseline. It
was catering. It was trying to cater to an audience
or trying to bring a certain audience into play, and
they didn't know it was turning other people off. You know,
people people want to see sports is non political. You know,

(01:32:35):
we've had We've had a lot of different type of
players that have gone on to me, like you know,
Bill Bradley is a senator. Number of baseball players been
representatives and senators and political, but their politics stay out
of the game. It doesn't need to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Oh, politics to stay out of the game. I'm sorry.
Did Pheel forget why they were protesting?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Did pel forget you had the death of George Floyd,
the shooting of Jacob Blake in Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
That was a reason why the players boycott it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Oh, I'm sorry, but Phil, But Phil said, oh, yeah,
we should keep politics out of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Go to myped.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Nineteen ninety nine, Bradley teams up with Phil Jackson on
campaign fundraising trail. Phil Jackson supported his former former teammate
who's running for president, by help raising him money. Oh,
I guess Field's politics are just fine, Kelsey to Cole Nelson,

(01:33:51):
Jones's right now, she's a want to be the sports journalist, Kelsey.
How just how dismissive Phil Jackson was here to act
as if this was just some gimmick the NBA was doing.
The NBA was forced to do this because those players
were going to walk.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Roland.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Well, first off, thank you so much for having me.
And you know it's sad we have to keep having
these conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
You know you said it so right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
The players felt the type of way because at the
end of the day, this is an NBA league, Roland,
where at last check d in the twenty twenty one
twenty twenty two basketball season, eighty two point four percent
of the players identified as people of color, meaning at
the end of the day, when they take off their jerseys,
when they take off their basketball shorts, these are most
really black men in America who deal with the same

(01:34:42):
struggles that many black Americans deal with in this country.
You talked about the killing of George Floyd. We have
to talk about the murder of Brionna Taylor. Say her name.
And the reason why the NBA was forced to do
this is because they are human beings. At the end
of the day, they weren't going to Roland just shut
up and dribble. These are men who wanted to make
a difference to what you use their platform for a purpose,

(01:35:02):
and during twenty twenty, when the NBA was playing in
the bubble, they.

Speaker 11 (01:35:06):
Had that opportunity to do so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
As you said, we wouldn't need slogans and T shirts
rolling if we could live in a world where actually
social justice mattered, where racial inequality was not a thing.
But unfortunately that's not.

Speaker 11 (01:35:17):
The truth here in America.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
And as you said, I mean, Phil Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Is somebody who has had an intersection into politics, and Folks,
if you don't realize that sports are political, you can
go back to ancient Greek times. They have always been
part of sports. We'll always been intertwined.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Well, how about this one here?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Go to my iPad please, Video shows police officer placing
knee on neck of NBA player Jackson Hayes in la arrest.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Okay, that's one right there. Then how about this one here?
Phil Jackson, NBA player Babo.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Cephaloship a victim of police brutality himself. Open open ups
about George Floyd's death Thobo had his leg broken by
cops as well. So when Phil Jackson just goes, oh see,
I love what there are No people don't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Sports and politics, Phil, the same players.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
How about when Glenn Rice, when Glenn Rice was in
a hotel in Miami, when he was detained by cops
at a hotel. Then you have numerous other players who
have talked about how they were being treated as as well.
These things have happened over and over and over again, but.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
The people like Phil Jackson act as if they're immune
from these things.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
And you know that's the fattest part because, as you said,
I mean, Phil Jackson is someone who has been as
close to black men as you can get as a
coach in the NBA. And I think what flks are
saying is, Phil, yes, you've won championships with these men,
but you were so much more than a coach, and
you're acting like you don't get it.

Speaker 11 (01:37:00):
And then Roland, what hurt me?

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
He said his grandkids were laughing at the slogans on
the back of these players. Well, I'm sorry, Phil Jackson,
but then your grandkids are exactly why we're fighting for
history books to stay in schools and folks to know
the history of black folks in this country, because there's
no way they should be laughing at things like justice,
that things like black lives matter, because these are real.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Issues for folks.

Speaker 11 (01:37:20):
You know, there's a reason why, Roland.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
This is why when we were younger, our teachers told us,
you have one mouth in two ears, And Roland, I
love when people expose themselves. It's why I always love
when people talk. Because no longer do we have to
worry if Phil Jackson is on one side of the
fence or the other. We know exactly where he stands.
And I'm so glad he came out and said this.
And mind you, the NBA right now, they're having good ratings.
They're not going to miss Phil Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Roland.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
I mean the series between the Warriors and the Kings
right now. I mean they had their best opening postseason
since twenty and eleven. Just think about that, folks, that's
twenty twenty three. So let's not act like Phil. And
these are the same people who were texting me today
talking about, oh my gosh, Kelsey, did you say email
U dope? And got hired, you know, by the Houston Rockets.
So all these folks that want to talk about they're not.

Speaker 11 (01:38:02):
Watching the NBA and things like that rolling. The NBA
will be fine without them.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
They're going to keep on moving.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
They're going to keep on rolling, because that is how great.

Speaker 11 (01:38:09):
The NBA is as a product.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
But Phil Jackson, what he said was so problematic and
again taking away from.

Speaker 11 (01:38:14):
His coaching thing, and he knows better. Let's just be honest.
Of course Jackson knows better. Don't tell me because he's
seventy seven years old. He's a baby boomer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Miss me.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
With all of that, Phil Jackson, what he said was
hurtful because the same issues rolling that we were fighting
in twenty twenty are the same issues the players are
getting against today. I mean, look, have gralp yarrel. We
still have black men being un our men being shot
by police officers are white people in this country. So
all that to say, this is why in twenty twenty,
let's remember too, the NBA players fault Roland and this

(01:38:44):
is why they ford the Social Justice Coalition back in
twenty twenty for NBA arenas to become polling stations for
when people go back.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Yeah, now that was part that was part of that
was part of the negotiations that the players actually had
on the congo again, Milwaukee players, they kind of throw
Brown was one of the players who actually got on
my iPad that was a parking ticket issue that led
to a police.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Encount with the cops there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
This is the reality to these NBA players, guys like
Phil Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Basically what he's saying is shut up and dribble.

Speaker 7 (01:39:17):
Absolutely, Let's be mindful of the fact that he played.
He started playing in the NBA when nineteen sixty seven.
He came up playing against Bill Russell and all of.

Speaker 12 (01:39:25):
The other athletes who are during that so he saw
everything going on with Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown and everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:39:31):
So he came up during that time.

Speaker 12 (01:39:33):
So he's acting like these players are coming out of
nowhere with their politics and so sit here and say
that there should be some type of separation between politics
and sports makes no sense because he saw it and
he lived it. And I also will say that he's
being introduced, if I'm correct, was that legendary music producer
Rick Rubin correct, def jam and all of that right,
Because if that's the case, I hope that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
He challenged him later in the podcast.

Speaker 12 (01:39:56):
Because this is also somebody who made his name through
hip hop off the backs of black people as well,
and so and so. I'm not saying he agreed to
fill Jackson, but I hope he challenge him. But we
see situations like this, We see situations like Tommy Tuberville,
you know, who made their career off of the backs
of black people and their work, and then all of
a sudden they get to a place that they can
kind of relax, and they verbally come out and turn

(01:40:17):
their backs on us and show us who they really
were all along.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
Jillian, you know, doctor Maya always says when people show
you who they are, believe them, and that literally, here
you see who he is. He may have had affinity
with black men, he's coached black men, maybe he's been
friends with them, but he does not feel our pain,
nor frankly does he give a damn. And that I
think my sister journalists was speaking earlier. That's the painful

(01:40:42):
part is clearly.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
He does not give a damn.

Speaker 10 (01:40:44):
These are folks that he's rubbed shoulders with, they've been
over night together. But this is white, this caucasidy. It's
just caucastist white folks who it's not that he doesn't
get it. It's that he doesn't want to get it
in his role, in his position, he's had an opportunity
to get it. So the fact that he doesn't get
it just says white folks don't care what happens to

(01:41:05):
Black America. Oh well, I was offended. My grandchildren.

Speaker 11 (01:41:10):
His grandchildren need to go to re education's camp.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
He obviously has not taught his grandchildren rider.

Speaker 17 (01:41:17):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:41:17):
When he says that he doesn't want, you know, sports
to be political, what I really hear is I just
don't want to hear about black people's issues. So for him,
this is all about just making money off of black men,
but really not trying to see them as a full
human being who is having a life that is outside
of basketball that unfortunately deals with constantly having to fight racism.
Those players have to fight racism, I'm sure on the
way to the game to play where he doesn't want

(01:41:38):
them to be talking about the racism that they have
to live with every day.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
So at the end of the day, you know, white
people like this do not.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
Surprise me with these comments.

Speaker 9 (01:41:46):
This is who he's always been the entire time. But
I really think what they should do is take a
look at and understand that black people don't want everything
in their life to be about race. But unfortunately, we
don't have the luxury to just say, hey, you know what, Monday, Wednesday, Fridays,
I'm not going to do with racism. You know, That's
what this is really about, is that they actually think
that we want there's nothing in this country, nothing in

(01:42:08):
our lives that is not touched by racism. And so
that is what people like Phil Jackson do not understand,
and that's why you see comments like this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
About thirty seconds left, Kelsey final comment, So what we're.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
Talking about Lebron James, one of the greatest players to
play the.

Speaker 11 (01:42:23):
Game, he had a racial slur graffitied on his home.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Race matters in America, race matters in sports, and you
can't separate the too. And I think what Phil Jackson said,
let's not think that Phil Jackson is the only one
that thinks this way. There's many other coaches, there's many
other gms and other folks, presidents of basketball, not just basketball,
and then the NBA, in the NFL and so much
more that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
Feel this way.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
But I think that's why we have to call people
out on this because again, they're more than just athletes.
They won't just shut up and dribble. And once again
it was said, but may Angela. Let's remember her. When
people tell you, when people show you who they are,
believe them the first time. And I don't need to
see anymore or hear anymore from Phil Jackson Rowland to
know exactly who he is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
All right, Keach, Nicolene Nelson, we appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
Thanks a lot, great one banks.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
All right, folks, gotta go to break and come back.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
We'll talk about Standard Techna, their deal trying to buy
excuse me, Standard General's deal trying to buy Tegna. Facing
toughhead was the FCC. I went to the meeting on
Thursday to ask them questions. Protesters will also there. Will
show you what took place again on Thursday at the
Federal Communications Commission monthly meeting. You're watching Rolling Back unfilted

(01:43:28):
right here on the blackstud Network.

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On the next Get Wealthy with Me. Deborah Owens, America's
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I'm talking about things like fellowship.

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or I'm talking to members who, because of a lack
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not coming to church because they don't have a handle
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Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission Hell there a monthly meeting,
and before the meeting, there were a number of protesters
there who were standing there in support of the Sue
Kim led company Standard General. They're trying to buy Tegna.
If they do so, they would have owned the second
largest station group in the country. Sue Kim is a

(01:45:41):
Korean American and of course he's been trying to do so.
The FCC pushed this to an administrative judges decision. Many
say that is going to kill the deal because his
financing for the deal runs out in the month of May. Now,
he has been working with a number of civil rights
groups when it comes to a memory and of understanding,

(01:46:02):
we've actually agreed to deal with him as well if
he acquires techn in terms of partnership with black owned
media and content. And so the folks who are out
there share through thoughts and perspective as to why they
were standing with Sue Kim in his efforts to acquire Tegna.

Speaker 32 (01:46:17):
We're here to show our support for the deal. Of
effectively that would increase diversity of ownership of the mainstream media,
it would increase it by some three hundred percent. We're
also here in support of Sue Kim, who's a great
advocate for the Asian American community and for the principles

(01:46:42):
of diversity at large. Well, I think, you know, diversity
of ownership in the media is very important. You know,
one thing you know that we experienced an Asian American
community experience was a was a rise in Asian hate
for instance, and uh and the mainstream media is coverage
of this incidents was very instrumental in highlighting again the

(01:47:05):
important role that the media plays.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:47:09):
You know, we think that having somebody.

Speaker 32 (01:47:12):
Who is a minority, you know, take some degree of
control over media, if you will, would enhance the rights
of minorities it be properly represented in mainstream media and
also thereby promote the principles.

Speaker 14 (01:47:30):
Of university as we are affirming that all diversity matters,
we are affirming that people of color matter. In this conversation,
we are affirming that it's time to see a demographical shift.
It's time to see progress in our newsrooms for us
the country. It's time to see progress in big media.

(01:47:51):
It's time to shatter one of the last bastions of
total white male supremacy in this country by open the
door to a person of color who is as American.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
As apple Pie, who has stood.

Speaker 14 (01:48:06):
By the black community culturally and politically across the nation,
and who's now saying he wants to bring gender diversity
and racial diversity to newsrooms and to media outlets.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Across the country.

Speaker 14 (01:48:20):
And we're here to affirm that he has the right
to do it, that he's the right kind of diversity,
and in fact, we are all we are all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Benefiting from him shattering the ceiling. Well, we've been monitoring
this efter for a while.

Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
It has been it has been.

Speaker 14 (01:48:37):
Unprecedented in many ways, the way that they have protracted
this situation and prolonged the situation, the way they have
intentionally deviated from precedent and norms by reopening commentary periods
comment periods after.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Having closed him down.

Speaker 14 (01:48:59):
So we've been monitoring this as a matter of equal
protection under law, as a matter of justice. Why is
this deal being treated differently than every other deal that
came prior. Why are they breaking administrative norms and administrative
precedents for this deal? So it's important for decision makers

(01:49:22):
to see the people's voice, to hear the people's voice,
to see their faces. It's important for them to recognize
that there is there are other estates, and they have
to be accountable to the voice.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Of the people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
And they can't make decisions.

Speaker 14 (01:49:38):
In an ivory tower that impact the future of our nation,
that impact millions of people across the country without having
to hear a robust voice and a robust input.

Speaker 8 (01:49:49):
From those communities that are going to.

Speaker 7 (01:49:51):
Be affected by their policies.

Speaker 14 (01:49:53):
So we're hoping that the gears of democracy will will
turn and we will be on civic duties to hold
the government accountable to the people's voice.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Now, after the FCC matt the standard did was not
on the agenda because the FCC Commission, the chairwoman, Jessica Rosenwall,
she's actually rehab this referred.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
To an administrative judge.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
I got a chance to ask her as well as
one of the four commissioners, Brandon the Carr, about this
very issue.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Watched this.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
In terms of the standard General TEGNA deal. Why wouldn't
the Commission openly discuss it and then a lot do
it up and vote down. You got a couple of
commissioners and said they would like to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Why not do that that way? It's clearly resolved.

Speaker 33 (01:50:45):
Well, as you may know, this is presently the subject
of litigation and an administrative proceedings, so I'm unable to
talk about it at this time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
But it went to so, but the question is you
could make the decision though to bringing before the full Commission?

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Correct.

Speaker 33 (01:51:01):
Like I said, it's presently before an administrative proceeding and
an administrative rulemaking and litigation, so I can't talk about
it at this time, but I could certainly help by
making sure that our bureau folks follow up with you
so you're familiar with the rules Commission.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
The car cool question for you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
If the Chair has authority to recommend to send the
standard General Techno merger to an administrative judge, doesn't the
chair have the same authority to simply say I can
reverse my decision and bring them before the full Commission.

Speaker 20 (01:51:34):
That's my understanding is that a chair would have the
ability to bring a vote. And my position has been
crystal clear from not just day one, but from minute
one when we learned that the Bureau was issuing a
hearing designation order on this, I put out a public
statement saying that I believed that these applicants deserved an
up or down vote from the Commission. It was a

(01:51:54):
nearly year long review process, longer than our one hundred
and eighty day shot clock that we attempt.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
To meet with these things. And for me, the framing
here is more broad.

Speaker 20 (01:52:02):
If you step back and you look across this country,
and you can see local newspapers shuddering by the dozen,
just you know news, while we're sitting here at the
diasis morning of another news entity that's closing down, and
we need to create incentives in this country so that
there is capital flowing into news gathering, supporting local journalists.

(01:52:25):
In my perspective, it's sort of a break glass moment
for broadcasters, and whatever sort of rule or regulation is
standing in the way, we need to In effect, we're
supposed to be doing it by law, looking at removingment.
So I think we need to be very cognizant as
a commission of sending signals to people that we want
investment in local news.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Now, I've covered the city government, county government, so a
lot of people don't understand the minutia of this. So
if two or three commissioners want something placed on the agenda.
How does that work or is it completely the authority
of the Chase to determine what comes before the commission?

Speaker 20 (01:53:02):
Yeah, the prerogative of the Chair is to decide what
the commissioners vote on. That is one of the powers
of sort of the CEO roles of the chair. And
so even if you have votes of more than one
or two or even three commissioners that want a particular outcome,
ultimately putting the particular of this proceeding to beside as
a general matter, it's up to the Chair to decide

(01:53:25):
the agenda and put items before us to vote or
to take items away.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
And have you asked the Chair to bring this before
the commission?

Speaker 20 (01:53:32):
My statement on this has been limited to my public statement,
which was that my position is that I believe that
after this lengthy review, that we should give a commission
level up or down vote on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
So that was the public statement.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
You'd never met with her personally or directly to ask
her to bring before the full.

Speaker 20 (01:53:49):
Commission all to think about it. I think my statements
have been limited to public at this point. Again, as
the Chair sort of indicated, there's various processes in place
at this point in terms of the HDO. But I've
made my point clear in a statement, and I think
I had that views be conveyed to my colleagues as well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
Okay, so here's what I don't understand, Julian the FCC chair,
stop it, Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
You could actually bring them before the whole sec Commission
and actually take a vote. And again you got two
commissioners who say, hey, is that the whole full commission vote?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
That's why you're there. I mean, just simply make a call.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
If you think it's a tough call, don't just passed
off to an administrative judge basically allowing it to die
in committee. Lead leaders are leads, So whether you agree
with it or not, vote up or down.

Speaker 10 (01:54:43):
Roll I could agree with you more. I mean, this
is clearly a case of anti Asian bias here. They
made a case that you got to deal. Other people
have deals to diversify the media, simply to diversify the media,
and people are afraid of that. I think your question
to the commissioner right on point, and he of course
avoided answering the question.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Chair.

Speaker 10 (01:55:07):
I mean, she was funny. I mean she's very good
at spiling, but I don't know what the content of
her work is. But what we really need to look
at is what this means in a long run in
terms of how people how committed people are to diversity.
And you know, I have a lecturer coming this week
to campus to talk about anti Asia bias. It is this,
It's real, and it's connected to anti blackness and and

(01:55:28):
other racist positions that people take data.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
Look, you were in the Georgia State House and this
ain't hard. You're the chair of a commission. It's supposed
to have five members. One hasn't been confirmed, so you
got four. Hey, bring it before the committee. Have folks
present for and against, vote up or down?

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
Move on right.

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
And what you're probably seeing here when you see a
lack of transparency from government, whether the elected officials or
people within an agency like the FC, is that when
people are trying to hide from transparency high transparency from
the public and not want to have votes and run
away from things like this, it's usually because they don't
want the public to know their real feelings on a
particular issue, because they know that people are going to

(01:56:12):
have a problem. So maybe there is anti Asian bias
that is, you know, at play here. But what I
also think is just so interesting about the whole situation
is that in this deal, you've got you know, folks
making the case that in order for media to truly
be to be diverse and really reflect the broader share
of the country, you've got to have more Asian representation.

(01:56:34):
And then you have Ted Cruz who wrote a letter
to the FCC saying that he thinks the only reason
the deal fell through is because the owner is Asian
and his Korean, and that's the reason why his deal
was killed. But at the same time, you've got conservatives working,
not even working, but excelling at using groups of Asian
people to knock down affirmative action in colleges and universities,
to knock down pretty much affirmative action anywhere it exists,

(01:56:57):
and to push back on that diversity is even in important.
So I just think that this whole thing is just really,
really interesting. And the Asian community is a very tight
knit community. They have got to get together on where
they stand on whether or not you want to support
diversity efforts or not, because just like you said, anti
blackness and anti Asian hate, all of that all that
stuff is connected, so they also cannot be on both

(01:57:19):
sides of the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
I'm a congo. This is simple. If the FCC chair
and others, if they believe that this deal is anti competitive,
it's going to lead to layoffs or things along those lines, fine.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Vote against it. That's all you gotta do. This ain't hard,
So I don't understand why is this difficult? And then
it's first of all, here's the other deal. And again
I've had to chair one on my TV one show before.
I can't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Actually you can.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
You can actually answer my question as to why you can't.
Don't bring it before the full FCC you can reverse
a decision because it's in litigation and.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Before administrative judge.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
Who is the one who directed the media bureau to
send it to an administrative judge?

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
The chair, so you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
Can't answer the question. That's the cop out. She knows
a cop out, and you don't want to answer the question.
But again, just own up to it. I can't stand people.
I don't care whether we're talking about Republicans or Democrats,
elected people or appointed people.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
You're the chair, you have a commission. Your job is
to say yay or nay.

Speaker 19 (01:58:32):
Just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
Just do have a hearing, lay all the facts out,
let folks talk forward.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Against, and then you vote. Final comment.

Speaker 12 (01:58:41):
They don't want to smoke Rowland. That's why they didn't
have to vote. That's period, bottom line. And the fact
that you're out there speaking on this. You talk so
much about the importance of black on media, but you've
also talked your entire career about the importance of having
diverse representation, period. And when we see what companies are
doing like a Sinclair Broadcasting Group and making local stations
have to read the same statements in support of their

(01:59:03):
conservative agenda, it is important now more than ever that
we get out there and fight for a diversity of opinions.
And it's very important that the black community and the
Asian API community get together on this along with other groups,
because if we don't do that, we're continually let them
control the narrative. And like Rinita said, we all got
to get on the same side. If we're serious about

(01:59:23):
having this diverse representation. We got to have all hands
on deck.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
Are y'all final story today? I'm running this tight on time,
but I had to get to this here. Look, I'm
told y'all to stop sitting here and acting the food
in these stores. Well, this white woman got into ring
with a sister in a Walmart and it didn't end well.

(01:59:49):
Mama Comzo's spo.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
Shop.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Shut sh.

Speaker 7 (02:00:09):
Sh sh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
O the lord. I keep telling these people, Uh, Julian,
I mean, look, if you open your mouth to talk, smack,
these better work.

Speaker 11 (02:00:35):
I don't know what's wrong with these white ladies in
these stores.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
I truly do not.

Speaker 10 (02:00:39):
But apparently they don't watch Roland Martin don't filtered, because
if they did, they would have seen the tape from
last week and understood that their consequences to stupid actions.

Speaker 5 (02:00:49):
Like I said, I just don't know what is.

Speaker 10 (02:00:52):
Wrong with these people, and their caucacity is overwhelming. And
you know this guy tells them to stop, Well did
he tell the the white lady just stopped when she
started the best?

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
See here's right. That's my whole deal.

Speaker 17 (02:01:04):
Nita.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Why don't you intervene when they arguing saying stop? But no,
you want to lay back and you want to wait
for that knock or buck moment?

Speaker 9 (02:01:14):
Simple anti blackness. He is treating the black woman like
she is the aggressor. When you can hear the beginning
of the video, before they even come into really contact
with each other, the white woman starts the mess by
calling the black woman a b i tch. So you know,
at the stake, at the end of the day, these
videos that come out and it just kind of shows
one thing. Some white people are going to have to
be given something to work with like this black woman

(02:01:35):
gave her in order for them to realize that this
is no longer the fifties Jim pro South.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
It's not on'm a congo.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
The sister said, she hit me first with the card
that opened the door to get asked.

Speaker 12 (02:01:47):
Whooped period, bottom line, and then she re shouted and
smacked her on top of that.

Speaker 7 (02:01:53):
I mean, we have this video. We had the video
last week with the.

Speaker 12 (02:01:57):
Woman called spitting on the woman and the one before
that with the calling the girl the N word and
run and try to hide behind the black man. You
went and, like Docu Marville said, when you are gonna
get the point, none of us can doon violence, but
this is self defense. People were being attacked and people
just think that we're going to sit and take it.
And at some point folks got to realize that we're
just not gonna take it.

Speaker 7 (02:02:17):
Anymore.

Speaker 12 (02:02:18):
We're already walking around with the frustration of being black
in this country at this particular moment in time, and
folks are waiting for a release.

Speaker 7 (02:02:25):
So why would you even try to bring that and
not expect any get that.

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Hey, look, I told y'all what happened when I was
in uh, when I was at a hair airport and
this dude was was it was the shoe shine staying
and nobody was there, and uh, he was literally sitting
just right there on the bench's two chairs, and so
I walked up and I said, excuse me, I.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
Want to sit in the seat.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
He turned me and say, you ain't fucking sitting here.
But I literally went, I'm sorry who you talking to?
I looked around, and then he stood up and said
you ain't fucking sitting here.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
And I said, you know what, but to waste time
with you. We're airport security, and so I was.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Then he changed his tune and I said, man, let
me explain because he was apparently he was on the
phone with his daughter or his wife or girlfriend or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
I said. Now here's the funny part.

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
There were like three or four people who walked by
black people and white people Roland Martin, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
I love your show.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
So all of a sudden I could see him calculating.
I said, do you know how close I came to
making your ass famous? I said, had I pulled my thhone.
I said, you have no clue? How the Lord save
you today? I said, I am extending the grace of

(02:03:41):
Jesus because I said you would be real famous. In
about thirty seconds, had I pulled out my phone. I said,
next time, calm.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
Your ass down. Oh you know, I'm sorry. I said, no, no, no,
you wasn't saying that sixty seconds ago. I said, But
I said, but you lucky I got grace today.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
I said, you lucky. I'm in a good mood, I said,
because I would have had your ass dealt with. And see,
I'm not ever sit there and here's a deal. I
don't know what he was thinking. It's way too many
black people. I don't know whether he was Latino or
he was white.

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
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Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
He could have been white, hispaniding, I don't know. But
all I do know, I don't think he realized how
many fans I got in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
That would have been a quick phone call. So I'm
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Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Y'all are not gonna roll up on somebody like me
who got Jesus with me on a Saturday morning. Keep
acting the food, and then y'all gonna find out real
quick how other folks' hands work. I'm just saying, all right,
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