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July 24, 2025 65 mins
  • I have to admit, even I got stuck...

    Recently, I was working on the onboarding journey for my Circle community.

    What started as a flexible journey inside a Miro board very quickly became a complex map that became impossible to use.

    With every new insight we wanted to add came questions about where it should go and how it should be defined. Due to these meta-level questions, we lost momentum, and the entire process slowed to a halt.

    Unintentionally, I had created a journey structure that was simply too complex to be useful in practice.

    Finding the right balance between structure and flexibility, as well as richness and overview, in your journeys is a challenge many of us face.

    That's why it's the next big problem we tackle in our Journey Management Playbook series.

    In the past episodes, we've used AI to generate a journey and then verified it to build trust. Now, we need to make it truly manageable.

    The core issue is that we often treat journey maps as containers for all information, when their true power lies in driving action.

    So, as we've said often, we need to shift our mindset from "journey mapping" to "journey management".

    The key is a simple yet powerful framework for structuring your journey.

    * What if the most effective journey had a specific, limited number of lanes?

    * What if there was a rule for how many steps you should have (maximum)?

    * What if there was a simple way to handle complexity without cluttering your main map?

    In this episode, Tingting reveals the proven framework that helps you answer these questions.

    With this framework, you'll be able to transform your map from a static document into a practical tool that teams can use to make informed decisions.

    Heads-up, this is another deep-dive where we get into the nitty-gritty details.

    We spend a lot of time sharing our screen, so if you're listening to the audio-only version, I highly recommend opening the accompanying slides to follow along visually.

    We've also included timestamps in the description, so you can easily jump back to a specific topic later on.

    Be well,

    ~ Marc


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    00:00 Welcome to Episode 5

    03:00 Meet Tingting: Journey Coach

    05:00 Short articles at the end

    06:00 Series Recap

    07:00 Next Steps: Filling Your Journey

    10:00 Action-Biased Journeys

    15:30 Simplifying your journey

    17:30 Workflow First: Not Just Visuals

    19:55 Journey Map Evolution (V1 vs V2)

    27:00 Why Fewer Lanes Work

    29:10 Triple Diamond Workflow

    33:40 Framework Over Flexibility

    38:30 Nested journeys

    41:20 Lane Owners & Stakeholders

    45:30 Offboarding Journey Example

    49:00 Automatic Data Roll-Up

    50:00 Actionable Insights > Stories

    54:15 As-Is vs. To-Be Approaches

    1:00:30 Key Takeaways: Structure Tips

    1:04:00 Next Episode Preview

    1:04:50 Connect With TheyDo


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