Go See The Lady!! (Part One)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so so so shameless.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Shameless, If you know what I'm saying so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying so shameless, if you know
what I'm saying so.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Shameless, it is all right, Welcome back to so Shameless.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
It has been.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's we weren't able to get the ship done because
I was doing freaking ship for heart at Sauce. But
speaking of Hardest Source, there's a few things. Remember I
played that video last week. I dind that episode. It
was like a fifty to fifty thing or whatever whatever.
In any case, we're going to start after this. But
we do have somewhat of a pressing emergency emergency, right,

(01:14):
I got an email from a young lady from on
Hardest saw the email stated calling in five. Let me
see how it goes. Let me go to the hardest
off and find the email.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Pressing is crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Pressing pressing for sure, it was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It was interesting. Trust me, I can't find it. Where
is it to let me see if I can find
this girl.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Did you put it in a group chat?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I thought I did, Yeah, right, but I don't see it.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm just here, so I don't get fun.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
You would not get fine, hold on, it's here somewhere.
But you came to Kingston Drinks, right, How was it
to you?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It was fun?

Speaker 7 (02:19):
I was fucking smiz so you know, everything was just
like a big ball or whatever. Alright, but I did,
I did do. I had a little kinky thing with
the guy on the stage.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
How was that?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
It was fun?

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
All right? I found an email. It goes.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I forgot what the how it started? My dumb ass
husband like that? Yeah, my dumb ass husband. Hey, Tahoe,
my husband listen to you. I'm leaving his name out.
My husband listened to your podcast Hardest offt and to
my understanding, you periodically throw sex parties. Recently, we've been

(03:02):
arguing so much due to him entertaining other women and
just decided to get a divorce. I wanted to see
what the root of his problem was, because he tells
me he really don't have any complaints with me. He
just said he would rather divorce because he don't want
to hurt me anymore. So last night he tells me
he wants to go to sex parties and feel like
I wouldn't want to, And I feel like this is

(03:22):
the bigger reason he wants a divorce. I even asked him,
other than his sexual urges, what other reason he wants
a divorce. He couldn't give me an answer. So this
dummy is about to create a broken home over some
shit he listens to on a podcast, like we have
two children and he's trying to establish a business and
couldn't live that lifestyle even if we weren't married. Please

(03:43):
read this on one of your shows and let him
know how dumb he is. Right, the reason I'm rushing
into this is because he actually reached out. We did
a whole thing on Hardest Off. Yes, Courtney wrote a
whole dissertation to her, you know, LU and I spoke
about man and where we might be in life. For

(04:04):
it was just a whole lot. It was a whole
loe Uh. That hasn't released yet, and that's supposed to
release this what Wednesday. But he reaches out to me
a So, yeah, let's talk real shit. If you want
to put this on the show between my wife and I.
Let's do wholeheartedly and honestly this is more of a
so shameless thing than a harder soft player.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
I have a voice and I would love to speak
my truth.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Here producing too, I said, y'all got me into He said,
real rap. When you're trying to do this, I'm ready,
I said, Bro, are you sure you want to do this?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
He want to come over here and talk about his wife.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
I said, not saying you don't have a right to
since she since she did.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
But airing your stuff out on the show can get messy.
It's up to you.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I want to do it, said a whole bunch of
other stuff, he said, but more focused on the topic
of change and a person mental from you through adulthood,
and give my details of who I am, what makes
me want to pop out of this shelter box of monogamy?
Why do I believe I am somewhat of a coming exhibitionist?
I don't know it was coming with co o.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
What the fuck did y'all have me in the middle
of and why is this my business?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Then the nigga says, hm, dude, he's hum. I don't
know what he spelled at h H h you m
h m m M.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I don't know, dude.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm married and been married for seven long years of
up and downs. You ever rode the Batman at six
Flags several times? What if Batman said I love you
while choking your ass, not physically, my nigga, and I responded,
I don't even know what you're saying right now, to

(05:53):
be honest, but the man sent me his number.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
You want to call him?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
He said, yes, Being that he has a limited amount
of time, I'm finna call him on the show right now.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
This is what your headphones are. Everybody grab your headphones.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't want them to headphones.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Headphones please, I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Want to know parts of it, like what y'all got
me into. I told you all mercury is and micro brads,
and here y'all are just sitting here, aiding in the bedding.
Fucking bullshit.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm interested in seeing where this goes.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
I'm not my headphones, nikro What the fuck is going?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Hello? Are you all ready?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm not ready.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
We are calling this young man, yes, sir, how you.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Know he young?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Now? This is nuts?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Why y'all got me get people business?

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Like? Yo?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
All right?

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Please don't.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Oh god, yeah, hello.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Friend, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
This is Miss Dodgah Belle and yesterday You're So Shameless podcast.
You are live on air, right you can hear me.
So your wife reached out to us. I'm not sure
if you saw the letter she wrote us. Would you
like for me to read it to you?

Speaker 8 (07:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
I saw it, you saw it. She called you her
dumb ass husband.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
But she does seem to be really wants this relationship
to work. She see she's saying that you basically are
interested in going to sex parties, and she thinks that
you're leaving because you're you know, the way you identify
sexually is growing or something or changing or something, and

(07:56):
you want to leave your children and her because of this.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
That's what she's said.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Okay, so that sucks. Okay, first of all, how how
how in detail can I can? I can I speak?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And like, uh, you can use real words, use your words,
express yourself.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Young brother, you're here, it's on you. We're listening, all right.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
No, man, Look, so I love her, I always loved her, but.

Speaker 9 (08:40):
Throughout our marriage, I just feel as if I I
have been lost this whole entire time. I've been lost
before I got her.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Have you gone to see the Lady? The lady therapy?

Speaker 9 (09:01):
We we have attended therapy together to reconcile the marriage.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
That's within this year, but also came this year. It's
been nothing. There's been nothing but the bakery every day.
And that that's I will play. Yes, I will take
the fault. Are not perfect?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
When you say you're not perfect? Is it because you're
entertaining other women?

Speaker 9 (09:34):
I say I'm not perfect because I do have permissionous thoughts.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Are you entertaining other women?

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:43):
Yeah, I hate that I'm doing that to her because
I would.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Look. I was I was young. I was young, and
I've always picture dad that that happily narrowly pick a ship.
That's that's cool, That's that's who I thought I was
going to always be.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is she your best friend? Who is your wife your
best friend?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
I don't even know if I have a You gotta
go www dot psychology today dot com. You and the Lady,
y'all need There's a lot that you're gonna have to unpack, baby, because.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
What I want to ask, is this right?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Because I know, I know this is a nervous moment
for you, right, And I know this is an open
moment for you.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
You're trying to.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You know, express yourself well on a show in front
of mad people. But there are some simple questions I
want I want to ask you, right we I ain't
trying to hear to embarrass you, and I definitely want
you to expression.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
I accept the ridicule because this then is the age,
all right, it is.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Up because why why would why would somebody do this
to their parent intention.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Right, which is why I'm saying, like, maybe, like there
is something that you really need to like deep dive
and unpack on your own and not make a rash
decision based on how you feel.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But they're not divorced yet. That's a that's a lot
of lawyers and paperwork. They're not there.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
What is it about the sex parties thing?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
I wanted to know about that.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Okay, so this the sex parties. It's not. Yes, the
sex parties piqued my curiosity.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
M hm.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Hm, But I f such a young age. I think
that two girls kiss. I was like, damn they do that?
So I was writing it down, you know.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
Okay, So I've always had those I've always had those thoughts.

Speaker 10 (12:12):
And okay, so I Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry not
to count your off. What's got Biggs yesterday? So no,
I'm yeaheah. So I'm from what I'm gathering from what
you're saying. So from what I'm understanding since you've been
in the marriage, well what you're saying. Prior before this,
you've you know, you've had thoughts, but now the thoughts

(12:34):
are starting to become something that you feel like you know,
you're growing and you want to act on and you
feel like this is maybe not who you was when
you started a marriage.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
In my correct.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
That your boy don't know who he is at all. Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 (12:49):
That's what I was. That's what I was. That's what
I was. No, go ahead, go ahead, brother.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
I'm in my nose, yeah laughing, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Yeah, I might laugh a little bit, but it's from
a place of love. I just laugh at inappropriate things.
Don't take it personally.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
It is entirely inappropriate.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
All right, All right, quick, let's hear what you wrote
in your notes. I'm not gonna laugh neither a.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
H is.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
It's gonna be jungled all the around. Okay, So I
have been lost to our entire marriage, even before our marriage.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that that she doesn't pay for
I hate that I even hurt you in the first place.
That ship was never the plan.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
M h.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
I stayed myself as the villain because I couldn't love
you correctly.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
And that ship is fucking discussing to.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
H.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
I I am a thirty year old man.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh ship, you a baby.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
It's like.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
The words failure, dumb ass, fat ass, blunky. All of
that ship was tattooing them. And I lived by that
ship the older I got. Uh, it's like I feel

(14:53):
like a fucking tan course, so they got turned into
a laptop.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Mhm.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
It's like, sit there be still, don't do ship.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And I listen, Uh, there's more.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Go ahead. I'm not gonna I'm like, yeah, yeah, I
got too much. Yeah, I got too much.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
No, no, you listen. The floor is yourge My thing
is this bro. As you go through the things, right, like,
you've committed you have two children by your wife. Yeah,
you have a family. You understand what that means. Right,
You have a responsibility not only to your family, but

(15:46):
you have a responsibility to yourself. And with Dodge is
telling you. Although it may sound what it sounds, like,
although it may sound condescending when somebody says, yo, you
need to go to therapy, this is how people kIPS
out right, But that's something that you might need to

(16:07):
do for your children and for because I don't know
what you think leaving your family and going into the
world is going to get you that you don't already have.
That's what I'm trying to understand. You kind of want already,
there's there's there's something to fight for here. When you

(16:29):
go out into the world by yourself, what exactly are
you fighting for if it's not your wife?

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yes, the children, Yes.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
I do believe I want. I have a absolutely great wife,
very beautiful, and she's about her ship.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Friends.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
I don't No, I don't know what you think is outside,
but it ain't nothing outside. Friend, you you want to
dissipate your family for what exactly? Being outside is not
gonna make you happier. It might actually make you lonelier.

(17:21):
These is new bitches outside, Like like what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Streets is cold, they don't love nobody. You don't got
no warm meals, you don't have no Christmas gifts, Christmas dinner's,
no pajamas, no thanksgivings, like you know what it takes
to break up a family, like like families have to separate,
friend groups have to separate.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Everybody gotta choose the side, whether you want them to
or not. They're gonna choose a side.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
And you using this analogy of being a villain as
a cop out because that makes you feel more comfortable
about what you're doing, because you're like, I'll be the villain,
I'll be the bad guy. But that's not what you are.
You're not the villain. You're not the bad guy. You're
doing a disservice to your family. You gotta go see
the lady. A sex party ain't gonna help you. This

(18:15):
ship is only.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
One night, and that's why you gotta go see the lady. Friend.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Y'all being empathetic, But the nigga said he want to
in his family because he want to go to sex parties.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
It's not I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Think that's not what he's saying. It's bigger than that.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
But you, but you're saying that you was lost before
you got in your marriage, and now you feel yourself
you're losing yourself even more, and that's really what the
issue is. You're trying to find your identity in other
places instead of going to see the lady because that's
the only person that's gonna help you.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Do you not want to be the therapy for a reason?
Is it like insurance or something like that?

Speaker 6 (19:00):
We went to therapy together?

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Nah, you can't go together. You have your own issues.
You gotta unpack, you gotta be you gotta be able
to stand ten toes down before you go to therapy
to fix your marriage. But you can't just up and
leave your marriage either, because how you gonna feel you
telling me your wife is amazing and she's this beautiful person.
That means that your kid's gonna have a fire stepfather.

(19:24):
Then how that's gonna make you feel?

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yo? Do you feel home when you're home?

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Like?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Do you like what is going on with? Like? All right?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
When you went to therapy, were you really able to
express yourself?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
I don't believe so?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Don't believe so?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
When you was in couples therapy, did you really think
you was able to express yourself honestly and truly with
the therapist and your wife with her sitting there?

Speaker 6 (19:54):
No?

Speaker 9 (19:55):
I think A try and either we ran out of
time or they just what the situation that I wanted.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
To speak of didn't didn't happen within the forme of
the time that we're there.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
So so it was just like, all right, we're gonna
skip over there, and the next time we don't, we're
gonna do.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Some more talking.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
It's like, okay, Well, so.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
You feel like the therapy basically was basically addressing issues
that she had with you as opposed to like everything altogether.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Yeah, and she she her issues are perfect. Doubt. I
get it because.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
If you married you, you commit to monogamy, and and
I'm I don't know if that is me?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Why what part of it? I don't you know what?

Speaker 7 (20:52):
You can't be non monogamous if you're not whole and
you're not sure of yourself and you don't have a
certain level of self esteem. Non monogamy sound like fun
until you're really in it and you're not secure with
who you are, because all that does is send you
into a jealous rage.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
I think I'm not a jealous person mm at all.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's also problematic, though, So you cool with her being
non monogamous? If you're not monogamous, what if y'all open
up your marriage?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Are you cool? With that, since you're not jealous, I
would I.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Would coleheardly tell I don't, don't, don't do.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It in front of me because your wife is fire.
I looked at a page.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Nigga, are you crazy?

Speaker 12 (21:43):
Now?

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Why would you do that? No?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
No, she is.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Host telling her too. She is beautiful. I don't. I
don't want to.

Speaker 9 (21:59):
See how ast somebody else so well, Nigga is I
don't feel as if.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
I feel as if we pleasure in her satisfies her.
But that is ugly. I can't say that I know what.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
You so you feel like you satisfying her, It satisfies her.
But when it comes to satisfying you know your wants
and needs, maybe sexually, you feel like the ball is
being missed on.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
That there's a lot. Yeah, sure, there's a lot more.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Yeah, okay, I mean that's understandable. But I think I
think in any situation, brother, you're gonna always have to communicate.
You're gonna have to do it in an effective manner,
right because I think, although I don't agree with how
you're going about things, I kind of understand some of
the stuff that you're saying, you know, as far as
like the therapy, how the therapy win and you maybe

(22:55):
not feel like you could you can express yourself, or
that you're or that you are able to express yourself.
But I think even with these changes that you're going through,
like you know, this is your wife, this has to
be like your best friend, some mother of your kids,
even with these changes, brother, I think they have to
be communicated, and I think you have to just.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Be okay with whatever the results is.

Speaker 10 (23:13):
I think when we when I was listening to your
wife's stuff, to me, it was sounding like you might
feel some things and you don't feel comfortable with expressing
exactly what it is, so you get what I'm saying.
So it's kind of coming off like haphazard. So but
I think I think the first thing that you have
to do is figure out a way how to actually

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communicate what it is you actually think and feel and
be okay with.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I believe with the result is.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I believe he is a host woman who is okay
with being a one man. A one man, a one
person type of union.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And type of human is crazy.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
And I believe I can do.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Monogon monogamy with somebody who who's also freely and willing
to be commissions.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
So you want to be in an ethical, non monogamous
relationship where you are aware of the fact that your
person dates and and and frolics with other people, but
you're okay with that.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
I'm doing that, finn Nega.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
Actually trying to get into some business because truth be told,
at this point, it's in.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
My life where I've come.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
I'm trying to put lead together more than more than
fuck with another bitch.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
So why are you other bitches?

Speaker 9 (24:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Are you boring? Do they validate you? Do they tell
you that you're cute?

Speaker 10 (24:55):
Like?

Speaker 7 (24:55):
What is it that these other bitches are doing that?
You know that you're hurting your family? You got little kids,
like you don't even got old kids, Like you're kind
of wilding, bro.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
Nigga is wilding And I don't know what Numble entertainment
I see.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I'm telling you right.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
Now, the only lady, the only woman you need to
be speaking to right now is the lady.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
You gotta go find somebody to talk to. Friends.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
This is not like we're not licensed therapists, we're not
marriage counselors, so we can't we can't give you what
you need. But what I can say to you is
the streets is cold. You think you want to be outside,
You don't want to be outside. And I just saw
your wife and I'm telling you when she found a
stepfather to raise.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Them kids, can you not say that.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I'm just telling them he thinks gonna be sweet. When
you find out that niggas is going crazy on your wife,
you're not gonna like it, you think, and you're not
gonna get as much action niggas single.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Niggas is not just.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Out there going crazy. It's hard to find women like her.
Will go to the bar and it'll be a million
shotstone towards a million drink stone towards her. You're gonna
have the kids, yep, and she gonna be living her
best life. And she was crying trying to keep this
relationship together. You don't yo you think that it's sweet. Bro,

(26:15):
It's not what you think. It's not what you think.
You have a gem that wants you.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Do the work for yourself. If not for you, do
it for your kids. Bro. You was twenty three when
you got married. Am I right?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Twenty three years old?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Bro, you I understand you feel like you're missing.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
A lot of life.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You ain't missing shit.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I understand you feel like, damn, I jumped in into
this early. That means if you got married at seven,
seven years ago, how long were y'all actually together before that?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Since high school?

Speaker 9 (26:47):
No, no, no, colleguefteen twenty We started talking like twenty.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Fifteen, right, So y'all it's a ten year relationship. That
means you started talking to her when you was twenty
years old. At this point, you're feeling like you're missing life, responsibility,
been kicking your ass, you coming home. It's kind of
like it's starting to feel like married with children at
a very young age. I suggest y'all have very First
of all, what Dodger's saying is number one, it's very

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paramount that you go to therapy. And this is not
a weakness. That is a strength. That is a strength,
my nigga. What you're trying to do. First of all,
all that cheating, the shit that you've been doing, that's
a cry for help. That shit ain't about nothing, bro.
That's just like saying, Yo, I'm missing something at home
for whatever reason. But you got to have that conversation
with yourself because it ain't in bitches, you already said
you ain't even looking for nothing.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
You just outside.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
You know what these bitches outside want right now? Can
you afford these holes outside right now? Not with them
beautiful little girls? You got you? You out your rabbit
ass one.

Speaker 10 (27:48):
Let me tell your brother outside, this is very expensive outside, brother,
very expensive.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
And when you sound like you live in the South
or in like in a Bible belt or something, so
y'all outside not even like our outside. Yeah yeah, see
slim pickings that ain't the same outside. You want to
get a bunch of sexy, red looking bitches, you don't
want to bring them home to your kids.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Hello, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
You're gonna have bitches with tattoos on their fucking forehead
and ship that's what you want to bring around your kids.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Sir said, you're just gonna keep cheating, so you might
as well leave. That's what trap shaid. You're just gonna
keep cheating because you don't.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
You gotta find yourself in the streets, and then whatever
happens after that happens after that.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
That's what he said.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
But I don't know, Blood, I want you, I want
you to get together.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I know you emotional right now.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I don't know if you're emotional because you on this
show and the nervous is kicking your ass or if
it's actually like, Yo, damn, I know I'm a piece
of shit, but hey, that's just where I'm at right now.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
It's like, I know I'm a piece of shit.

Speaker 9 (28:54):
And trying to get on the show. And it's not
that I'm trying to get on the show with some
more fucking dramas.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Ship, but I'll y'all.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Were the same joke, but we want you to get
your ship together.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I don't fuck with it.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
You know, we fuck with you before before we go
call your wife because you know i'd fuck your wife.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're not coming to my play parties neither, so I
see your name already.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Non Yo.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
What I'm trying to say, bro, is you got work
to do as a black man that is a father
of two children. You're talking about sex parties and shit
like that.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
You that's crazy, bro, Yo, That's that's supposed to be
a conversation that you have with your person and y'all
agree to certain shiit. Bro, you don't that's kind of
crazy what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. That's what I'm saying, bro,
Like nigga here sucking up.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, bro, but you're young blood what she said. Though,
I'm sorry, Yes, I do want to give you a
little bit of grace because I'm fifty. I'm fifty, so
I should be giving you a little bit more direction
than than judging you at thirty years old, because you
are married and you do have that's a that's.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
A very honorable move.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You've been an honorable person up to a point because
I don't know how long you've been cheating, but you
had a good heart when you started. I need you
to go find that. Remember that, and that don't mean
stay in a relationship that ain't good for you. If
it ain't good for you, you know, hey, it ain't
gonna be good for the kids. But you're telling me
how dope and beautiful your wife is. Are there things
that you're not telling me about her? Did she gain

(30:20):
weight when she had the second kid? What is he
not attracted to her?

Speaker 11 (30:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
More? If it could be, it could.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Be something good, I don't care about. I thought that
might be what it is.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's not what.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
A woman attracts me, period. You know, it's like.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
What, No, I'm listening stressing.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
So she attracts me?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Period?

Speaker 9 (30:54):
There's there's nothing else to say about that.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
It is.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Listen, ain't no bitches outside.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
For a time, I started feeling that I wasn't good her.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Don't downplay yourself. You gotta find yourself esteemed.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Friend.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
She married you for a reason.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
And that was stripped for me as the person that
was supposed to install that ship.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
And this is why you gotta go see the lady friend,
because it's some deep ruder shit going on in there
that that your wife can't fix her just being there.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
She can't fix it for you.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
You gotta wake up and you gotta want to fix it,
and maybe you might need to go to therapy twice
a week because she's fighting for you, but you're not
fighting for yourself and that's a problem. So you gotta
get it together before she leaves your ass.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I feel bad for her because I can tell that
you're not dealing with the ship that you got going
on inside. I don't even know if you really being
honest with yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
She in prison, bro, she is in prison.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yess what you gotta say?

Speaker 10 (31:59):
You know, I was basically on brother, like I just
feel like, like I said, I kind of again, I
don't agree with a lot of stuff that you're saying.
But I do understand where you're coming from, and I
do think that you know, like they said, the therapy
is important, and I think you have to be okay
with feeling these new feelings and stepping into yourself as
you are now and being okay with whatever the result is,

(32:20):
because in my opinion, it sounds like you're looking for
things and you kind of maybe feel like she's maybe
not into the same things, and you're kind of trying
to like broach the situation in a weird way.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
But I think I know.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Soka and Okay.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
So that's exactly what I'm saying. And from my perspective,
I think if you are getting to a point where
you feel like certain things, I think you have to
be comfortable with not just saying it, but putting it
on the table for her and just letting whatever decision
happens happens, because you know you can't control her, you
can't want to do your shit on the side. You
know you can't have everything here. So you know what
I'm saying, you have to figure out you know what

(32:58):
I'm saying. If I'm from leading towards this and this
is something that I'm thinking about doing or I'm on
this path, then I have to be able to speak
with her and take whatever comes with that as a man.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
If she wants to walk away, if she wants to
work on it, you just have to be able to
accept whatever comes with that.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
I think.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
But also you got to be a whole person before
you start making life decisions that's not only going to
affect you, but it's going to affect everybody in proximity
to you. It's so easy to just like, I feel
like your choices right now. It sounds really selfish, and
you don't understand the magnitude of how this is going
to affect everybody that loves and cares about y'all, everybody

(33:36):
that cares about your kids, everybody that cares about everything
that comes the parents, the grandparents, the aunts, the uncles,
the cousins, Like you not think about nobody but yourself.
And if you was my family member, I slapped the
shit out of you. I'm not even gonna hold you,
cause like, what are you doing violence?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Did you spoke to her about going to sex parties
but she open to that?

Speaker 10 (34:00):
No, he said, He said, he knows she's not into that.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Have you talked to her about it? Like, yo, can
we come to.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
An Honestly, if I was her, I would say no too,
because you already cheating number one. Why am I going
to open up Pandora's box and you not even a
whole person?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know, you don't even got your mind right.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
So no, I'm not allowing you to to add other
layers to our life until you figure your ship out first.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's crazy to even.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Ask because a nigga already, I already suspected that that
wasn't hurt.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
So it's like, Okay, I can continue to suppress yourself,
but what are you suppressing?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You just want to fuck other bitches?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Or is it?

Speaker 7 (34:49):
There is there a kink that we don't know about
that's not being solved, Like I don't It can't just
be pussy because if you wanted to uproot your whole
family over boxes crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
He can.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
He can want to have your that is the thing. Yeah,
I think he wants it, but he just doesn't to me, doesn't.
He doesn't want to blowback. He doesn't really want to
face what comes with that decision because they think he
knows what he knows what comes with that decision standing
on it? And I think that's what he's trying to.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Avoid, because it's like, this is this is a very
retarded ass decision.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Hey, don't use the R word. We fake woke.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Excuse me. This is a very inappropriate, dumb ass decision.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
That's why she says you was dumb. But this is
my question to you, when you were cheating, where was
your kids?

Speaker 9 (35:38):
Whom?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I didn't ask y'all when you was cheating? Huh what
that means? Say it in New York?

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Huh? Want in New York? No?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I said, you got to say it like in New
York vernacular because I ain't know what the fuck? Over
the road? Man, So you you have your CDL, you
drive trucks. Yeah, so you are you.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Cheating with the chicks at the rest stop?

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh he got standards? Told one.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Okay, that's peace.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Oh no, I'm just asking. I know that's the thing
for truck drivers.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Nasty.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Well yo, all right, yo, gosh yo. He has been
in a relationship since he was twenty. He's now thirty.
There's a chance that he can change in that time.
But if you're in a relationship with the person or
are you just her husband or are you still your

(36:41):
own person?

Speaker 7 (36:41):
Like you, you're supposed to be able to have both.
But the problem is one, he got married too young.
Two he got married knowing that he did not really
know who he was. He got married thinking about the
idea of what marriage is, like I want this thing,
and now he has it, and now we are in
the middle of this world, this social media world, and

(37:05):
he's like, I want to be outside, but I don't think.
I don't think I have a friend really understand what
outside is. Outside look good until you outside.

Speaker 10 (37:15):
I don't even think he wants to be outside. I
think he wants the relationship with the extra dynamic. That's
what I think he really wants.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
The market.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
He don't know what he wants because he doesn't know
who he is.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
No, I think he can knows what he wants, but
I think he doesn't know how to go about it. So,
if if that's what you want, it right, you said
you wanted the relationship dynamic with the extras added on,
but you know that you're.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
The extras everything to be every day, so you want
every month.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
So you want to be able to have the option
to fuck other bitches here and there.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Why do you say other bitches like that?

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Because that's what he wanted to do. He don't want
to have a relationship. Do you want to be in relationship?

Speaker 10 (37:50):
He wants to know, That's what I'm saying, Like, he
wants the relationship and he just wants to do the
extra on the side.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
What would you want to want?

Speaker 6 (37:58):
I would want my wife will participant.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
He wants his wife included in the extras. He doesn't
want to do it outside of her.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Now is be a wife bisexual? So then what the
fuck is we doing?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
That's why I said he has up.

Speaker 10 (38:14):
That's what I'm saying, he has to It's listen, we're
making this over complicated. And like I said, the therapy
thing is definitely there. But I think, yeah, you get
what I'm saying, Like, you have to be able to
say you listen, if that's where you're standing at, you
gotta be able to look that woman in the eye
because she deserves that, and tell her exactly what you
think and feel and be okay with whatever decision she

(38:36):
makes from that. You get what I'm saying, Like, as
a man, as a father, that's what you should be
focusing on. Doing right now, because that's really the only option.
Everything else is extra shit.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I do think it's not fair if you marry somebody
that you have to stay the same person you were
when you when you married them.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
You don't, then this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
This should be room for us to have certain conversations
that you're not comfortable with if we're married, because you're
truly in love with me as a person.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I agree, But.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
I think that I think that sometimes the way that
men move you erode and stop yourself from ever being
able to have the freedom of having that conversation because
you do the coward thing and you make decisions on
your own. I think that I don't know his wife,
but it should have been a conversation first before he

(39:25):
started cheating. Now that you'd done added cheating into the element,
you lost it. You ain't getting shit out of me,
like you probably could have got the little freaky threesome
every now and then for your birthday or something like
that if you had this conversation straight up. But you
already cheating, you're already lying, you're already moving crazy, and.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
That's not true, but that's what happens. Yeah, but she
wants to still be married. If you want to still
be married, except him where he is today, except him
where he is today, if.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
You still you're asking for a lot out of here.

Speaker 10 (39:58):
He's still fighting for the Both people have to do
the same thing. She has to allow him the space
to say, like you said, what he feels, you know
what I'm saying, and like you said, bro create an
environment where you can actually express what you think wholeheartedly.
And he also has to be okay with whatever her
response is to that. You can't micro manage her response
if you want to, you know what I'm saying. So
it has to be both things. So she has to

(40:20):
give you the space and you have to be okay
with however that goes.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Brother, Yo, ahead, I'll let you say your last final,
but we're gonna get off this.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
It has been forty minutes. I know you've got things
to do.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Go ahead, go ahead, all right.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
So I want to be free, not free of marriage,
not not free of consequences or anything.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
I want to speak for me.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I want to be me.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
A curse. Shit. I go to work, I go to
the gym. I don't why, why why do I have
to be in a box of you can't do that,
but then like.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
Uh, every everybody else can sing as they do, be
as they please, talk, talk talk the.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Ship that they talk. But then it's like it's always
been a finger pointed at Marquista says, hey, stay young
ass right there.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
So you feel like it's cool when you do it,
but it's a problem when I.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
Do it, you know, And it's it's not that I
want to be bad, it's just that I shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
I shouldn't be.

Speaker 9 (41:43):
Told that, nigga, Why are you trying to do it
when everybody else does.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
What they do?

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Well?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
If I may respond to that real quick, right what
Dodge is saying, and I do believe she's right now
that I think about it. When you're in a Nominaga misrelationship,
trust is important. It's very it's paramount right that the
person trust that you have ethics and morals in the
way that you move and you won't violate the pact

(42:15):
that y'all have together.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
The rules and the boundary.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
You have violated trust, Yes, you understand that. Well.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I do want you to think about this though, seriously,
you you serious like you you're willing for your to
not be there when your kids wake up in the
morning for the rest of y'all until you you're gonna
have them from telling you I get my kids Friday Sunday,
it's not dope.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
It's not dope. I dropped them off and go about
my business. It's not dope.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Are you willing to say because I need to just
explore I'm willing to say, forget that for the rest
of my life and just have them whenever I get them.
And that's it. Because there's a world where you can
have a family, a loving family. But it's gonna take work, communication,
it's gonna take a lot of compromise, it's gonna take

(43:13):
some sacrifice, but the benefit is amazing at the end
of the world. At thirty, you can't see that. Thirty
years old, you're thinking about life like you. I want
all of this, jay Z. I want to be I
want to I want to be the part of me
I'm jay Z. You know I think about I thought
about that shut up yesterday. Look at him. You think
about all these people that's living this great and grandiose life,

(43:35):
and you're like, damn, I want that. Comparison is this
deep for joy? You actually have the castle right here.
You have it already.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
You have what everybody want when they outside. Ain't nothing
more sad than leaving a party and watching the letout
and people trying to link up at the last minute
because don't nobody want to go home by theyself?

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah listen, trust me to dog it's not it's.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Not keep my blunts to my self any life.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Your what there's blunts?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah? So yeah, bro, listen, I would talk to you
on the side. You know, we can continue that and
you can DM so shameless and Dodge has the DM.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
There, I surely do not. I don't have none of
the logging for SoC shameless. You ain't finna get in contact.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
With me yo therapy. I think that's important.

Speaker 11 (44:24):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
You mentioned that you have mommy issues.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I think it's important that you deal with that right
because you don't want to push that onto the people
around you.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
One way or another.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You got to heal if you stay in that relationship
or not. You got to heal if you If you
move on, you bring them same issues to the next relationship.
If you if you're trying to date multiple people, they're
going to see, oh, this nigga got some issues. They're
gonna be able to That's gonna come off. The box
is not just gonna be thrown at a nigga that
got all of these issues, Bro, it's not. You got
to be kind of in control of yourself as a
man to be able to man women. You understand what

(44:57):
I'm saying. So if I was you, I would do
that while in this situation. Yeah, I would do that
singularly and go to counseling and do more than you say. Yo,
we would run out of time. How many times did
y'all really go to counseling? I would assume that it
wasn't really that many times because it wasn't as fruitful
as you guys wanted it to be.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I have a question. You wasn't solve shit with three times?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Three times? Ain't nothing, bro. You Actually it has to
be a part of your ship like breakfast, lunch, and
dinner yea once a week. You actually have to continue going.
There's a commitment when you made that decision that twenty
three you made a life commitment, my nigga, and you're
not doing You're not doing the fight that you promised
yourself back then.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
You're not true.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
I have a question, are you in a discord? Are
you a part of our patreon discord community.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Once the time.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
You did what you left the patreon.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
All right, calm down to I'm only asking this because
Travis said that you can call him and he'll give
you the real I think that there is a community
in so Shameless, There is a men's chat that maybe
you might get different, differing opinions from different men. I
don't know when was the last time you were in
the patreon or in the discord, but there are definitely

(46:14):
different sectors. And you know, you could talk to somebody
that's been married since and and and been with the
same woman since high school to give you some type of.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Some type of advice or some type.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Of real world you know, situations, a community of men
that might be able to to help you, or somebody
you could talk to shut up, Travis, somebody that you
could talk to, you know, to help you iron this
shit out. And then that way you will also have
access to being able to speak to us too, and
we can continue to Yo.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You're putting hardest offt You're giving me a bad name.
Stop doing that.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Look, you know, I'm just trying to live.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
You're just trying to find yourself. Yeah, you just trying
to find yourself.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Thirty years old. You're going through that, bro.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hell yeah, because a hard year.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Thirty is hard, Bro, thirty is difficult. Bro, give yourself
a little bit of grace. But you got to do
the work you got the same way. You go to
the gym, right, you a gym had, right. You got
to do that emotional and spiritual work too. You can't
just work on your fucking abs and you god damn pecks.
You gotta work on your brain and your emotions.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
You have to and that means going to do the
inner work. Yo.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
We'll talk to you later, Bro, Thank you for calling in.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I was laughing while you was crying.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, we laughed a little bit. But it's all right,
all right, not.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
As one big hearts.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I don't know why you be dragging me in people's business.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Listen, this is crazy, bro, to talk and he asks,
this was the hardest soft convo. He asked to talk
to you, he said, he wasn't talking so shameless.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Or you're Trump Trump? Yeah, Trump for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
That's sad.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
What's sad about it?

Speaker 7 (48:00):
I think that when people get married really young, that
this is definitely part of the ebbs and flows of it.
I know that I didn't know who I was when
I was twenty years old, and I'm not the same
person that I'm like. I couldn't even imagine what it
would look like to have been married that young and
to get to this stage in my life.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I am not. I'm nowhere near the same person.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
I don't have the same likes, the same wants, the
same desires, and to to to possibly be in a
relationship with somebody that's not growing with me, we're actually
growing apart and not knowing how to like navigate that.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That's tough. That's a tough position to be in. But
niggas got to do the work. Bro. Like, I just
feel like, what about her asking her this question?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
And I really want to know if you're in a
marri is your are you allowed? Is your partner allowed
to change? And like what if they are? If they
are are allowed to change, what do you have to
do to be okay with the change that happens? If
you're talking about being marriage, doing the golden the fifty
year marriage and shit like that, because they on the
on the road, you're doing that, Yeah, but your partner

(49:11):
can change in that relationship.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
I think that that's something that that women we don't
that's the part of the fairy tale that we didn't
get sold like you get sold the fairy tale of
you know, the house, the husband and the kids or whatever.
But what a lot of people don't realize in the
fairy tale it always ends happily ever after because it

(49:34):
ends right after the marriage, right after the.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Wedding, it's over.

Speaker 7 (49:38):
But you don't see the real life that happens that
you have to actually go through. And that's the part
that a lot of women like, we don't get that part.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
We're gonna change, They're gonna change.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
And that's why one of my first questions for him
is is that your best friend? Because if that's your
best friend, the changes should not be able to impact
the relationship to the point that y'all want divorced. Because
if that's your best friend, you're gonna go through these
things together. You're gonna be able to have that space
to have that conversation. That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
But that's not the reality for a lot of people
that are married.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
If you're not best friends, when you when ships start
getting rocky, it's so much easier to be like, I'd
rather just leave because I I can't see a life
without my best friend, right even in the changes of
life my best friend, Like I there is no image

(50:34):
that I have in my mind that my best friend
is not gonna still be there with me.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
But your best friend should also not be your jailer.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
And that's the thing. And that's probably why she's not
his best friend because it sounds like she sounds like
she in prison, but she sounded like she the CEO,
and he's a prisoner.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
And that's why there I can't even chgres.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Me over the last seven years. I can't.

Speaker 10 (51:03):
And he said something too when he was like he
felt like it's like everybody can do their thing, but
why can't this nigga do it? He feels a sense
of being singled out from a personal level because it's
like everybody can do this, but why can't I change?
You know, to your point, like why can't I add
something to the mix? Not that you have to accept it,
but so I think that that might be a thing
to language how we talk to people as well.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
Travis says, people can change, but your sexual interests are
something that is foundational. It's not fair to expect her
to accept him changing to want to be with other
people and.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
To that, Travis, I agree with you.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
But he also said that he saw two girls kissing
when he was younger and was like, holy shit, people
do that.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
People do that.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
So he had sexual interests that he wasn't fully honest about.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So it's not that he didn't. You're right, that is
very foundational.

Speaker 7 (51:54):
If you see certain things and there's things in the
world that you didn't know existed that you you're interested
in and you want to explore, but you don't have
a safe space or a safe person to bounce these
ideas off of.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
What you do is you suppress them.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
That doesn't mean that they're not there, you're just not
showing it, which again goes.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
To he didn't really know who he was.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
He's still not quite sure who he is, and that's
why it seems like he's changing so abruptly, and it's like, no,
he's kind of realizing that the world is bigger than
what he knows. You driving trucks, you outside, you see
the world different. Social media probably gonna open your eyes.
You're listening to different podcasts, you're hearing different experiences.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You're like, oh shit, people do this.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
This is like what life it could have possibly been like,
and you feel like you missing out on something that
you didn't even know that you wanted to begin with
because you didn't know it existed.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Yeah, that's probably where the podcast thing came in at c.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Isn't it what we said on artist?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
When I was like, he probably cannot tell her what's
really on his Yeah, he probably is holding that back
because you already know he's punished for the truth way
more than he's celebrated for telling the truth. That's that
is not something that he thinks that he can actually
say to her.

Speaker 10 (53:07):
Yeah, and it's still staying like, you know, staying like
staying stronger after that, because like, once I say it,
then it's just crumbles from me saying it. And then
you know, once I say it, then it's like you're
the catalyst for this crumbling, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Would you be cool with that?

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Though?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
You want your wife changing? What if she says she
wants to be not monogamous? If you're married for seven years,
two kids, you going to work you? Oh, this is
a whole another conversation that I'm gonna bring up later.
But go ahead.

Speaker 10 (53:31):
I think, like I told him, like, I mean, I
think with any type of abrupt change like that, I
think we would always maybe feel a little bit, but
I would just hope that she would be comfortable enough
to talk to me about it.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Right.

Speaker 10 (53:42):
So, well, that's we've talken about this. You're leaving, oh
me personally. If she's like, oh I want like I
want more dragons, I'm out of here. Yeah, extra dragons.
I'm out of here. That's a fact. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
That's me. That's just me.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
So your relationship, you're gonna walk into reallyationship and tell
them about all your little sexual kinks and escapades.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
You're just gonna put it all on the table.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Yeah, that's what you're sposed to do before you marry somebody.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
No, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Am I off? Like I'm not married. I listen, I'm
I agree.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Andrew send me an episode of Hardest Often. I was like,
my faith said, what hold on?

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Hell, you ain't here the recess ship, But hold on,
I said. My face comes.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Out singing slapped by Teddies on the internet. I'm at work, like,
what the fuck.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
Is going on?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Is there a contract when you get married, that you're
supposed that you have to stay monogamous for the rest
of our life.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Nope, no, because what is marriage?

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Marriages?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
I'm with you no matter who you become, no matter
what happens.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I am willing to work.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
This out with you for the rest of our lives.
And if once you say, hey, you're telling me that
once she changes after ten years, having had kids, feeling
like she's not whatever her full self, and she comes
to you and says, hey, this has changed about me
and I want to be honest with you, you're saying, well,
fuck the marriage, fuck the vows, And.

Speaker 10 (55:03):
No, I'm saying it's the same thing I told him,
Like he has to be okay with. You have to
be okay with whatever response is. You can't have everybody.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
What is marriage?

Speaker 10 (55:11):
You're saying, bro, But marriage is not something that is
just a universal thing. There is no one size fits
all of marriage. So we can't just be like, oh,
what is marriage? Marriage is a complex thing and it's
ever changing and it's different for different people. So, like
I said, just like I told him, I would want
her to tell me that, But I also have the
decision whether or not to stay or not.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
I don't have to stay just because we're married.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
That's like, that's like when people that's like when people
say I can do something fucked up to you because
you're my family.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
No you can't. It doesn't matter. But it's just.

Speaker 10 (55:41):
Because if I'm telling you that this is who I
am today, No, but it's not fucked up. If I
say I don't want to stay here, both none of
the things are fucked up. Both people have the space
to do both things. It can't be one or the other.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
But I think that that's also your mindset is what
ruins families do too, because people because you say that
honesty has to come with a consequence, and it shouldn't.
If we're married, I should be able to tell you anything,
not that you should have to accept anything, especially if

(56:14):
I'm not doing anything with malice or anything to hurt you.
I'm just exploring and opening up a different side of myself.
I might not be this person five years from now. Yeah,
I'm not to choke you here, excuse me not I
think I'm gonna but yeah, I finished that.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
It was jinjire.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
I might not yes, please, I might not still be
this person five years from now, but I would hate
to go through a phase and explain that phase to
my husband, and he would be willing to throw away
our entire family because he does not accept the phase

(56:56):
that I'm in. If I was honest to tell him
because you're not comfortable with the phase that I'm in,
like that, shit would hurt me. That's why people lie
and hide.

Speaker 10 (57:05):
But the convers Okay, I see what you're saying, and
let me be clear, the conversation is not what I'm
upset about. Like I said, we can have the conversation,
and like I said, try to work to get to
a medium. So I might not be okay with that,
but there's a medium. If you feel like yo, the
medium doesn't work. You know what I'm saying, and it's
this or nothing, then I'm gonna leave. Just like I said,
he has a decision to say, yo, well listen, I
want a situation that's like this, and then it's like okay, Well,

(57:27):
if that's just what it is. If there's no in between,
there's no medium. Cool, But you have to.

Speaker 7 (57:33):
If you if you're married and your wife is like listen,
I think that I've always had a kink or a
fantasy of having sex with multiple partners at the same time,
you will be like, bitch, fuck out of here. I'm
leaving a whole family. Even if she just wanted she
just want a one one Yes.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
You asked, if your wife says, hey, I will begin.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Is stressed, you will throw away your whole family. I
can't get an hour to myself?

Speaker 10 (58:06):
All right, no, no, no, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Well, how do you know that is about an hour
and a half.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
You got several dick sucks, You got several people got
you don't have.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
We don't need the special I can't be involved in that.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You know you're not going to be there.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
You have to be there. She's going to Vegas. She
wants to go to Vegas. And when she's out there,
she wants to have.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
A Is this a one off? T know what I'm saying, like,
is this a one yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:34):
What if she said?

Speaker 4 (58:34):
What if she says yes?

Speaker 10 (58:35):
But okay, So if this is a one off situation
being my wife and for the sake of like I said,
we have kids and it's house all of that one off, okay, cool?

Speaker 5 (58:46):
But I get a one off to.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
See ship because you want to have sex, you want
to have three simle women. Well, I want to have
three s more men. That's what you're doing right now.
That's what you're doing right now.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
That's exactly what I'm What I'm saying is has to
be fair.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
It can't be like you would be fair.

Speaker 7 (59:02):
She says, no such thing as equality as equity. But
equality is not equal, baby.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
All right, that was a bomb.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
It's not equal.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
No, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 10 (59:13):
I feel like if she if she can entertain somebody,
or she can you know, fulfill that. And I'm saying, okay, cool,
I'm not saying that I have to copy the same
shit you do. But I'm saying, if I grow in
a space or if I feel like I want to explore something,
I should be given the same grace. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Okay, that.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Not I'm gonna do exactly.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
That is what marriage is.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
I would think, so Travis saying, no, fuck that, but
I would think that's what people are supposed to that
that's life. Change is inevitable.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Bro, the more things change, the more it says the same.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Right, that's it's inevitable. Right, But you're expecting this person
to not they can't. They have to stay where they
were when y'all made disagreement, and that's just not And
the thing is is like, you accept your brother s
yours as long as it's not malicious. They go through
whatever they go through, and that's still your brother, that's
still your sister. That sister might become your brother one day,

(01:00:07):
and we say your father says it is the daughter,
like oh, my daughter is now my son or whatever
it may be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I know this is a lot of people, are y'all
so shameless. I don't agree with certain shit, But you're
supposed to love your person regardless as long as they
haven't done our word and whatever. You know, some shit
where it's just like yo, yeah, then you say, yo,
that's that's what marriage is supposed to be. You're supposed
to that person is now your family forever. Y'all have

(01:00:35):
to figure out a way to make it work.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
But what Dodge is saying, when he broke that trust,
he broke her and millions of pieces every time she
found out because she said he didn't cheat once multiple multiple,
So you're asking me now to just accept it after
you broke me into millions pieces. I don't know how

(01:01:02):
she can do that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I don't know how fair that is to her.

Speaker 10 (01:01:05):
That's why that's why I said, he especially with the
cheating pro I said, once you do that, you've completely
blown the whole operation. That's why I said to him,
you have to be okay with where you at and
saying that and standing on it. You know what I'm saying,
you have to you know what I'm saying, if she
accept whatever comes with that. You know what I'm saying,
It can't be like I don't want to really take
what I think because I don't really want to hear
what you really think about this. You know what I'm saying.
I don't want the consequence that come with it. It's like, No,

(01:01:27):
if that's where you're at, you have to give. You
have to give her that, you owe her that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
But the Nigga Trapp says, in order to do that,
sometimes you have to deny what you want how long.
I don't believe in that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I don't believe it. I don't believe in having to
deny and I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
That all what the type of life is that what
I have to just not be me because of because
I ever ever.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
No, I'm never doing that. I didn't agree to that.
You saw me when I did my vows. That lady
said was She was like, yeah, you agree to cook
breakfast every morning?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I said, I ain't agreeing to that shit, Like, are
you crazy? So fuck don't go add extra shit on
top of me. I do not agree. You already do that, y'all.
Cap No, I don't do that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
I am happily in a unique situation where I get
to authentically be myself every fucking day. I never want
to wake up and feel like I gotta hide this
or hide that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Or sneak and do I'm not doing that shit, bro,
I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I don't think that either.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I think that right now based off this things that
have happened my relationship, I'm foregoing certing shit. But that
is part of the arrangement in our relationship that we
get to talk about what we want to explore and
do when that comes up. I'm just not pressed about
that because I'm engaged right now and I'm happy where
I am.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I'm just not pressed.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Plus I don't have time I love, like, Hey, I'm
not I'm happy with the person to have. I ain't
pressed to go do other shit. It's on the rocket,
as you say, in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
But I have a whole life to live.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Trav says, no one literally does everything they want.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I'm not just talking about sex, that is true.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
I mean, obviously there's mad shit that I want to
do that I just can't get up and do every day.
But at least I'm honest about the shit that I
want to do. I threaten to leave my family all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I really be wanting to. I really be like, yo,
fuck everybody in this house. I'm out. I'm not gonna leave.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
But at least everybody in the house knows that there
are days that I would leave you niggas because y'all annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Yeah, great convo. So many things that I want to
talk about. You know, I don't even know if I'm
gonna just do this as its own episode. It's been
a fucking hour already.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
But we started off.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
We ended last week with a certain conversation. Now multiple
things have happened in the news that I definitely want
to speak about. But being that we ended the last
convo with this one thing, let me find that lip
and play it for y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
It is here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Where is it is here? Oh? God, hold on, You're
still connected to the day' still.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Connected to the blue too, let's start over.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Oh god, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Technology.

Speaker 11 (01:04:31):
They don't want to say to me, they actually want
to be fifty to fifty cool, go through your fifty
to fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Do I personally believe in it? Absolutely not, I think either.

Speaker 11 (01:04:42):
My professional and spiritual opinion one, I do not think
women were made to have to take on all the
stress of work that they're taking on right now. I
understand that for some that is empowering and they enjoy it.
And I think, if you are a woman who generally
enjoys being out there achieving, doing stuff, by all me
to do it, because again, I want you to be
your true self. I think there's a lot of women

(01:05:03):
who fell in that rabbit hole, and deep inside they
don't want that. They rather be home, raising a family,
enjoying themselves, having more freedom. And I think, just looking
at from the perspective of again, the way our bodies
are wired, the woman's body is not built to have
to handle so much stress, whereas the man is built
to handle more stress.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
Too.

Speaker 11 (01:05:23):
People want to say to me.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
All right, he's not lying, of course, is not lying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
No, he's really not lying.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
There are there are literal biological differences between men and women,
and thinking about those biological differences, there are literally points
in time that our bodies we just need to like
sleep and recuperate. Huh, I sleep too, No, but literally,

(01:05:57):
there was a study that was done that says that
women need to actually sleep longer than men.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I sawry women to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Pull it up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I'll pull it up right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
We have studies that say that men are not naturally monogamous,
and women are way more supposed to be monogamous, and
men are supposed to procreate more.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
This is what we do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
There've been studies with all of that, and y'all don't
want to hear that type of science.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
But this type of science, y'all good with this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Y'all good with don't give me sun news either.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Son, What the fuck is sun needs?

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
Cleveland Clinic Health Essentials, Why women need no bitch or
why women need more sleep than men. Changing hormones, mental
health issues, and higher risk of sleep disorders can all
impact women's sleep needs. Experts recommend that adults get at

(01:06:54):
least seven hours of shut out nightly. But how much
sleep do women need versus men?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Does it?

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
The answer is a resounding yes. There are few important
reasons why women may in general need more sleep. Would
you like for me to continue?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Why do women need more sleep than men? I have
your answer.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
One study shows an average women sleep for eleven minutes
more per night than men do, and while that is
a small number it might not apply to everyone, is
representative of a real difference between the sexes and how
we sleep. Women typically have more issues affecting their sleep,
so they may need slightly more of it to make
up for disruptive sleep or poor quality sleep. These issues

(01:07:33):
may include hormonal changes, depression, anxiety, and sleep in disorder
fluctuating hormones. Would you like for me to continue? I
menopause can affect sleep higher rasis, depression and anxiety.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Experience insomnia.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Twenty percent have obstructive sleep at NIA. Fifty percent have hypersomnia,
which is oversleep being an increase in sleeping disorders. Are
you getting enough sleep? This is a whole study. Do
you want the length? Okay? Huh huh, Especially when it's

(01:08:14):
around our period.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Men are diagnosed with sleep apnea at a significantly higher
rate than because.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
Your niggas can't breathe, Because y'all, y'all so dumb that
when y'all sleep y'all can't breathe hold on, So.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
First hold on, that's the first. That's peace.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
To sleep and die every night because.

Speaker 10 (01:08:32):
First of all, y'all just need a mass sleep for
all type. You gave us ten reasons why.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
But we're not dying in our sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
You need a whole breathing machine to make sure that
you don't die in your sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
That's what y'all have, sleep apnea, and that affects y'all sleep.
Now when I say it, because.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
You said depression anxiety, like men don't get depressed.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
Hormones is a part of the factor when we have
our period when.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
We are like we have to sleep at the period.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
But we talk about hormones.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
With men period around our cycle.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
We speak about home moones with men.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Get your periods too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
I don't know the fact.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
That I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Probably do. But the fact that men seem to do
things sexually more than women.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
What does that have to do with sleep?

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
We're talking about hormones. Yeah, this is what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Y'all are just bringing science and to prove some bullshit,
Like right now, there's all types of different science things
whole on the second, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
But we're not built the same therefore we should work less,
go out?

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
The fuck does any of us have to do with saying, Yo,
you know what you pay the kanad and National gad grid,
I'll pay the twenty six hundred dollars mortgage. What does
any of this have to do?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
But whatever? What does that any of this have to
do with it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Nothing?

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
I don't mind paying the content. But the fact of
the matter is like I personally, yeah, it up, I personally,
he knows, I don't care. I personally, if it was

(01:10:10):
up to me, I would not work. I would stay home.
If it was up to me, I definitely wouldn't work
as hard as I do. If it was up to
me and we were in a different financial state where
my salary was not necessary, it wouldn't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Guess what, I feel the same exact way. And it's
not because you have a vagina and I have nothing.
I don't want to work either, But what makes you
think that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
You would bread to work?

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Have a question?

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
And can I stay there? So we've been told all
this time that the women should work less. The bodies
are not designed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
Yes, right, so we should be doing the work right.

Speaker 10 (01:10:55):
So I'm trying to figure out scientifically because we went
to the study. Right, Yeah, So how are men supposed
to do most of the work, most of the heavy lifting,
take on most.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Of the stress, same way I used to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
And men don't need to sleep more.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
No, y'all don't. Ya don't need to.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
Break the signs down because you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Still you're still going to work the same amount of
time that you was going to work before.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
I'm just not going to work because I want to
because I need more sleep than you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
You just you just killed. I don't care sexual work,
sexual do more to sexual.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
If Dick started working after a certain we do.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
More to sexual work. We work more, we build more.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
We can't moistures because we gotta deal with y'all annoying asses.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
Were get.

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
The problem is the problem is men don't have enough money,
because if men, if men had enough money, you wouldn't
have to deal with no annoying ass bitch because all
you got to do is say here and she will
be like okay and leave.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Nick.

Speaker 10 (01:12:00):
So a niggas broken sleep for two hours. You gotta
fight a hundred niggas a day, right, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I work at a regular nine to five. You still
want to sleep the same amount of time, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Don't you tell it?

Speaker 10 (01:12:14):
But if you if the woman is not working, that
means I need another job. So that means I'm getting off.
You don't need you don't need two jobs I have
if I'm gonna all right, I have a.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
And I still got to be on my side, Andrew,
you such an.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I have a I have not filtered this whole door.
It just came to mind. This guy gets with this
woman at twenty three years.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Old, I'll be back to them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
No, I just this is, you know, whatever, they get together,
they have a child. She is not meant to work
that much, right, she's not meant to work that much
as as we say. So he now realizes he has
to provide he gets another job because for whatever reason,
he might live in some whatever. They don't pay that

(01:12:56):
a lot got you know whatever. So now he's working
seventeen hours a day, fifteen hours a day, right, sixteen
hours a day, fifteen hours a day, fourteen hours a day, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
But by the time he comes home.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
He's tired, He eats, he wakes up to work, goes
back to work. Yes, this becomes their life. This is
what they live off of. In the meantime, there are
attention that she used to get from him when they
weren't in this right, it's a lot less. She just

(01:13:31):
sees him every once in a while, you know, puts
some sleep, feeds him, and he goes sleep, wakes up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
She's now bored. She's now looking outside. And the reason
why is because you don't pay me as much attention
as you used to. Yeah, how are men supposed to
win in this situation?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
It's the first time you've said I don't know. It's
not on this show.

Speaker 10 (01:13:55):
I said, you know, I see this on I watched
Cheaters a lot the show, and that happens a lot
on Cheats where the guy will catch the girl cheating
and when he know, when she gets exposed. Her first
thing that she says is, well, you were working all
the time. You're always leaving me in the house. And
you can see in his eyes, right, you can just
see the look on his face like, but I'm working,

(01:14:15):
like I've did it, I'm doing everything. He's like, I'm
working fifteen hours, I'm coming homely before hours, going back
to work. And she's like, yo, but you're not paying
me attention With a straight serious face, and you see
him crashing out in the street because he's trying to fathom.
Just like we said, you're doing all the work, You're
doing all of the stuff, and somehow, some way, this

(01:14:36):
demise is on me. I'm getting off a ship and
catching you cheating, and then the demise is on me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
And you're saying that this is the life that y'are
that most women should want.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
No, I don't want to fifty you should be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
That's not the life that I want.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I'm gonna be very honest with women.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I say you no, no, no, I'm saying most women
are right. Here's the thing got him, No, you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:14:59):
I'm trying to be empathetic when I speak because I
don't want niggas to be in an uproar. I don't
want a man that makes minimum wage. I don't want
the minimum wage man to make me have to stay home,

(01:15:20):
if that makes sense, because then he needs multiple jobs,
and that's why you tie it. I want a man
that has that one job that makes enough money to
sustain Because no, I don't want you working, because yes,
that's how we have those problems. You have these problems
because you you want to be a kept woman, and

(01:15:41):
your man works at McDonald's, so it can't work like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
For you to be kept, he has to work more.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
I want you to work a normal fucking job and
still be home by five six o'clock like that. But
that is the But that's what that's the lie that
we all grew up on because that's how it used
to be back in the day. Biggas had one job,
You stayed home, Daddy come home around five six o'clock,

(01:16:08):
you have dinner together, you still have family time. You
still have that time to do these things. You're not
working on a weekend, you don't have weekend shifts. So
the thing is, it's not something that's impossible. It's not
something that can work in this economy. You'll need multiple
jobs to sustain this, or you have to be making
upwards of two hundred thousand dollars on more and you're

(01:16:30):
one job, which is not the masses. So that's why
we can't have what we really need. But if my
men made two two hundred and fifty thousand dollars right
now on one job, yes the fuck I'm staying home
and that's one job.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Gosh, we still got time to do whatever long enough.
My memory is not really good. And I know you're
gonna want to fight me on this. I don't want
me just go the whole route, right. For one, I've
been on this show long enough to have heard you
contrad yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Time changed.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
You said women have always.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
Worked, they have, and that's black women have always worked.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
You just said black women. There was him coming from
pain and I stayed home. That's what you just said.

Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
That's what you just Technically, you're you're, you're, you're mixing
two different conversations. And what I was talking about is
when y'all be talking about like, oh, yeah, I've been
working hard my whole life, and I said, black women
have always been with you. When you was in the fields,
we was in a fields too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
We was in a house.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
Like black women never had they in a mask, didn't
really have the opportunity to live a soft.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Life, and neither do most women out there. They're not
going to bag a nigga with two three hundred thousand
dollars every nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Exactly, which is why we need to go fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
And so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Let's talk reality, which is why we need to in reality.
I would love to be doing a million different things.
I would love it, but I got to fit where
I am at in life exact not mine. You just
just he works at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
You work at McDonald's two and now everybody gotta work.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
That's our life.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Now, everybody got to work in this house. I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Okay, that's it, y'all. Part one is over. Damn interesting conversation. Now,
I ain't gonna lie. I don't know what to think
about dude that called in. Just sitting here thinking about it,
but please let me know what y'all think. Hit us

(01:18:31):
up on Twitter, on Instagram, you can email us at
So Shameless Podcasts at gmail dot com. Yeah, there's a lot,
there's a lot to unpack with that, but we will
be dropping part two this Thursday. Y'all already know how
that goes. Or you can go listen to the full
episode on Patreon Patreon dot com, backslash So Shameless Podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Thank y'all for listening. We'll see y'all in a couple
of days.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
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