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May 14, 2025 • 88 mins
This week on So Shameless, Tahoe brings Trav, Malcolm and Q, members of the So Shameless discord, to join him and Yesssterday as they talk Q's listener letter regarding his inappropriate friend, wishing people Happy Mothers Day, did tahoe get Tane a gift, a mother who felt her sons wife is ruining their tradition, and a wife that went on a solo trip and did not come back. Stay tuned for Part Two airing next week or head to the patreon to hear the entire episode ad free right now. ENJOY!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, If
you know what I'm saying due, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so so
so seamless.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Shameless, If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, say,
if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
know what I'm saying, so shameless.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome the fuck gack to so shameless, y'all.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm not gonna lie. I've been dying since last week.
Dodge ain't here. She's off about to get married. She's
We're gonna talk about that too, because some interesting views
last week.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Very women esque, very women esque, and Trav you're married.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I don't know if anybody else is in here is married,
but I want to know what right he got his
wife's name on his shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So basically, what.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I was saying is I was really sick over the week,
and that's why we did not release a video episode
this Tuesday. Me today, both the kids all laid out
from Friday afternoon out sweating through the sheets. Just fucked up.
I actually have to leave work, like I tried to

(01:49):
pick up a bag at work and I ain't have
no strength, bro, My dick wouldnt get hard. As a
matter of fact, I don't know if that's team. There's
too many guys in here.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Every morning I do my routine. I got to get
myself gone.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You know what I'm saying. I got into gear. I
threw it in the hand. My boy was like, nah, nah.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
No, oh, you're trying masturbating right now.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Okay, it did not happen before me and so yo
yesterday you are right, okay, what I'm good, bro, finish
your story?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
How long?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
How long?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
How long? How long were you jerking it before you
realize that it just.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Wasn't hour that you'd be like, I can make it.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's an hour, and your and your ignition wouldn't start.
So you just had behind that ship and hit the clutch.
That should just take off, y'all. That's what I had
to do with today.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's glad to do.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I ran with.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It, just hit the clutch and that it took a while.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
It took a while. What do what we do?

Speaker 6 (03:13):
You sexually assaulted yourself? Did you try different positions? Well,
this is the Morgan style in the shower.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That yesterday I don't do that, but all right, that
was that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
That I don't even know.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
Yoh'd doing stuff around the house.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
No time you try to get.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
It going, you got ship to do.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
What happens when you grab.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
I'm sorry, you can't beat off while you're trying to
fix the bookshelf.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
You can't take.

Speaker 7 (03:59):
Again at the cabinets. Then just start beating like.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Trash.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I got the company coming, I got to clean up.
Let me get this out. I don't have time to
do both.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
You know, take it too long? Now, you got to
do both?

Speaker 9 (04:17):
Like, all right, what happens when you grab your dick
with the cleaning product and.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
See you don't do that. You gotta protect yourself.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
You gotta put a glove on one hand, the other
hands crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
You don't want that burning.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
You don't want that been do that before.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's crazy, your lessens.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
It's like cooking while you're doing it, like choped some
peppers up cooking.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
At the end of the day, I didn't realize, and
I'm gonna talk about this on hardest So sorry, we
entering the hardest round, but we're gonna get back to
the real shit. I didn't realize that your body will
tell you that you're sick in that fashion. Because when
I when I finally got up, my legs was hurting.
And no, it's not from beating off for an hour, Malcolm,

(05:12):
I know what you're about to do.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's not it's not right.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I took a shower. My back was hurting. No, I can't.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I went to work and I just couldn't not. I
wind up.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I wind up leaving while I was trying to pick
of the guards because I was just I had one
hundred and two fever. I wound up going to the
to the doctor and I had one hundred and two fever.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And when I was home.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like I was realized, I was like, Yo, that's why
my sho wouldn't get hard this one. My body was
busy trying to take care of this other ship and
I'm basically trying to do this ship my body, Like, Yo,
we don't have that right now.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Nigga were trying not to die, So I guess, yeah,
were you.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Your deathbed almost?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
But I would love to do that. That's my thank yesterday.
That and smoking weed. If that could be the last
two things that I do before I go, No matter
what I'm good.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
He wasn't horny at all. It's just that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
It's protocols routine at that point.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Muscle memory.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh thank you now to the people.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Out there that don't know the voices that we have here.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I were sitting here being that I had missed recording
on Monday.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was just thinking about recording on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
But I was dead the whole weekend when I was
playing the show, I was thinking about trying to record
on Sunday. I was dead the whole weekend. There's no
way I was gonna be able to do it. Monday came,
I was still out. Tuesday came, still out, and I
was just like, bros, matter of fact. Monday came and
I was just thinking to myself, I think I'm just
gonna go virtual. And I was like, Yo, it would
be dope if we just did a whole mail.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
At SO.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
And I head up trave and I said, Yo, do
you think that you and Malcolm will want to come
on the show.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Now?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I throw the little jabs at Malcolm all.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
The time, as y'all all, No, y'all listen to most
of y'all listening to the show, y'all, y'are not a discord.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You're like, who is Malcolm? Why is he always getting
the worse of it? He gives it to me.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Your watch you listen to this episode. You're gonna know
Malcolm is extremely intelligent, extremely opinionated.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
He don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So imagine me and him in the same room. We
often wanted to be young at each other. It's all love.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So because I respect now, trap, I just want you
to be respectful. Dodghns not even here. Be you respectful
to DoD. She's getting married next week? Okay? Respect okay?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Uh I also invited, of course, yesterday is here. He
got a little spicy with me today because he's like, YO,
told me he.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Got a little spicy.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But I listen, I ain't got time. You know, did
you get spicy? Did you get spicy?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
All?

Speaker 7 (08:07):
You don't get No, it wasn't spice. I was like, oh,
I'm like, nah, we locked in. I thought we was
locked in, so we threw a wrench out there. I
was like, wait, not hold up, but you got me right,
So I was like, all right.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Listen, So did you get spicy or not?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
No, not at all.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
I just wanted to make sure that I was available
to show up to work.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Did you get spicy?

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Do you want me to read the text?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Read it?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Do you want me to read the text?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Read it?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Y'all let me know if y'all think this is spicy
or not.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Pends on your tone.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Today recording, So same with tonight at six thirty, virtue,
I'm not leaving here till seven.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Nobody told me about this.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
But why would you read it like that?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Though? You see yah see ya see how you put
the songs on it? Like, why would you even what?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Who was the reason for all that? What was the reason?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
What was the reason? Listen?

Speaker 7 (09:05):
I was mid I was mid basketball tournament, I was refereeing.
I took a gander at my phone. I seen we're
recording at six thirty the night, virtually, So I'm like,
I didn't seen nothing in the chat. I hadn't spoken
to you, So I'm like, did I miss something? Did
I not put something in my calendar? Was I not

(09:27):
locked in?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
No?

Speaker 7 (09:28):
I'm like, yo, brand, but that's how he made me feel.
So I'm hitting him like yo, with nobody saying that
hold up? Like so, I just wanted to make sure
that I was here for the audience for you guys,
just trying to show up, trying to be the best
version of myself. That's a draft.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
When did this album trave When did this show come together?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Today?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Today?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
We were trying to figure it out. We finally heard
from Malcolm. We hit Malcolm yesterday, right, I hit him when.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I found out. Why are you saying this? Very on
brand for me, Trav, What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Because it is brand for you to throw shows together?
Last minute?

Speaker 9 (10:07):
This is let me pause for a second. What's up?
Can you highlight? Can you highlight this message here that
says love you? Malcolm? Just go back to your thing.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
The discord is I can't deal with this. So basically, yeah,
that was my weekend. How did y'all? How was y'all weekend?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
How did y'all spend?

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I have another guest here?

Speaker 9 (10:37):
Yeah, because you like completely was like fuck that they
hold on a second one more time. Let me just
pause you, Let me just pause you one more time?
Love you to send feet go ahead?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
My bad?

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Well I got to see a chat.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I really want you to stay focused. We actually have
another guest here, q.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Can in the discord and as.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
A matter of fact, he we had a listener letter
last week.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Can I talk about this cute?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And he was the one that sent the message about
having a friend that I was saying is an insult,
and Dodge was saying, Oh, you want to manipulate.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
This guy into being a better person.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I'm like, how is that manipulation? I'm trying to help
my friend. I'm trying to give him some game.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Can you go out and would you mind like telling
us about the situation at least a little bit more?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
All right?

Speaker 8 (11:49):
So all right, So my friend and for the record,
he invited me out, So we went out to the
New Beach right chilling.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
I usually go out there often. I'm this is my vibe.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
So we there, It's me, him and a female friend
of ours.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Right, I'm chilling.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
I'm noticing some things that's like clicking in my head.
And she told me some things about stuff that happens
every now and again because they hang out a lot.
And I'm like, damn, because I'm in a whole bunch
of spaces where consent as a thing and I'm going
over you know times when I used to party with
a kid and we used to you know, have fun,

(12:39):
and certain things pop up, and I'm like, damn, I
can see this becoming a.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Problem if it's not checked.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
So it's like, you know, getting girls drunk at a party,
stuff like that. So I'm trying to figure out, like, damn,
I can see this being an issue. How can I
put this to him to make him not feel a
way about it while I put him to it, like
put you up on a game like yo, because holler

(13:11):
at means like, oh, I want to go to a
play party one of these days.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I'm like, hey, for the sake of everybody's safety, and
I don't know about that. So that's pretty much a situation.
If youone more details or elaborate or anything, let me know.
I get into the things.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Anybody else have, because I told you already, I think
dude is I would just give him some game. I
would slowly approach the situation. I wouldn't attack a head on.
I would create a conversation, and in that conversation kind of.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Lead toward, yo, why you do it like this? Why
don't you do it like that?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
And just for another thing, he has friends.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
He has female friends, and I think not to say
that's part of the problem, but that's kind of part
of the problem. He has these friends, and at least
from the one that I know that we talk, there's
moments he tried to get with them, even though they
e been set straight a few times by the same person.
So it just keeps coming. And I don't know about

(14:13):
how he is with his other female friends. But again
that puts in my head like, oh, I can see
that being an issue.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
What you mean set straight?

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Like inappropriate touching every now and again, try to hug
up every now and again. She gave me a moment
where he tried to make her sit on the lap
while she was holding a little party with her.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Family and friends.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
And he knows the family, he's good with the family,
and he says he tried to holler at all his sisters,
And I'm like, oh, yeah, can you talk to this
guy regularly?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nahum, So you think he agreed?

Speaker 8 (15:01):
I see, I see the thing. The patterns is the party.
It is like, oh, that's my homeboy, right is.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It your homeboy?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
If you don't talk to him like that, and you
you can't have a real conversation with him, like yo,
why you ya? You you telling lap and all that,
like this is your homeboy, or this is somebody you
know and you're labeling him a friend even though that
ain't really your man.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
Like that, I want to say more the second than
the first. But still, this is a guy I really
fuck with, Like you know, I fuck with you, But
we got our own lives. We do all different things,
but when we come together, we chill, we vibe, and
even on that level, I show respect to that, Like, YO,
fuck with you this right here that they ain't gonna

(15:43):
cut it long term.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
I feel like with y'all, with the type of relationship
you're describing, I feel like you should just be straightforward
with him.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yo, I've seen you do this. I've seen you do this.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
This person told me this, this person told me that
it's not cool because of this, this and that, and
then if he don't change his behavior, then that might
be somebody you shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
Associate the front. Yeah, I was just I was just
about to say that. I was just about to say, like,
sometimes I think as men, we hold on to friendships
or relationships and and sometimes it's not shit that we
really need. It's not shit that's benefiting us, it's not
shit that's adding to what we have going on. Right,
So just like you're saying, like, Yo, that's my homeboy,

(16:22):
but you know it's kind of not really but him
doing something like making a mistake like that that could
call you know, that could bring goo back to you.
You know what I'm saying, How people look at you,
You get what I'm saying, And it's like, why should
I have to associate myself with something like that if
that's not it's not somebody I really support or you
know what I'm saying, I really have that type of
report with anyway, you know what I'm saying. So if

(16:42):
you can't be straighten up with him, then it's like,
you know what I'm saying, because again, ultimately you're saying
the right thing, so it don't really matter how we land,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So that's it.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I think sometimes you hold your tongue for your friends
a little bit.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
Or try to navigate a way to say something. But
this dude doesn't seem like that. It seemed like you
know him, y'all hung out a few times, So like
if you being straight up with him would hurt less,
if he less, if he left, then it would with
an actual friend that you communicate with all the time.
Plus if the niggas being creepy and scaring the HUZ,

(17:18):
then I don't really understand. I don't much see when
Troll told this story, I didn't really understand what you
were getting at because on one hand, it's like, Okay, yeah,
you want your friend to like not be creepy, but
sometimes that's in niggas.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And on the other.

Speaker 9 (17:35):
Hand, it sounded like you just wanted him to like
successfully fuck bitches without getting them drunk. But I'm like,
it was almost like to me, it was like you
were interjecting yourself into his life, like you didn't have
like who are you to say, like, you know, I
can't talk to this guard, he can't talk to that
guard or however the fuck that works, right. I was

(17:55):
just it was one of those things where I was
kind of just like, so what if he don't just
want to fuck bitches? Like is that the goal to
just be fucking bitches? And but that's how that's how
it was kind of told. So I'm just like, where
are you where are you going with this to like
teaching him how.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
To appropriately talk to girls.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
But at the same time, though, that's like giving the
joker a gun because if you see as predatory behavior
and then you're gonna make him better at better at it.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (18:28):
I can see that. That's a good point. Q turned
some light on in there, but obscure, I can see that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, but you know, I'm getting a lot of
flak for the what a man with a black man?
What is black?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
But I can hear y'all, huh he said he'll be back.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, I'm getting a lot of flack for the I
feel like, isn't if you know somebody on some creepy ship,
you don't think it's and you you and they they
in your thing, they in your circle, you.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Have a communication with them.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
You don't think it's it's it's kind of your responsibility
or something.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Like, Yo, you can't be doing ship like that. You don't.
You don't think so you just you feel like, yo,
fuck it, just don't be your friend. Just leave him
out there to do whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Because that's what he's saying, like, Yo, I know the nigga,
I know these spaces, and I noticed what he's trying
to do. That's not gonna come off good there. It's
not going to be a good thing. Then he could
just be wonderfu. Bitches, Ain't that wrong? Excuse women, happy,
happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That what I'm trying to show you. I can't.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
You can't follow it, you bitches or not?

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Are you? Are?

Speaker 9 (19:59):
You bitches and niggas? And I respectfully so I I
you know, I apologize. That's just the way I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I remember one time I had to tell this nigga
first my homegirls, what happened some chick that I was
dealing with or whatever. She was starting to mess with
this other nigga. I know that the nigga beat up women.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Chicks.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
He had been to a chick crib with his gun
pointed at her door with the gun like he had
beat her up. He had beat another chick up. He
had threatened another chick with a gun.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I had heard about it. Me and him ain't really
have a rapport whatever. I heard about things, you know whatever,
And it was he was getting pressed time and time again.
He's getting pressed by different people whatever. M So Shorty
told me, y'all, I'm gonna mess with this nigga whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm like, you mess with him, But that nigga beat
bitches up.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I'm like, I'm just letting, you know, be careful because
he's a spas out and he beats chicks up, right,
so he hits me.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
On the side.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
But he said, why is my name in your mouth?

Speaker 11 (21:07):
Pause?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Wow, that ain't really gay. That's really aggressive. To be honest,
that ain't no pause about it. But I said, like, yo, Yo.
First of all I did, of course, I got aggressive
with him, like yo, why are you even talking like that?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Who?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I don't know what being you on right now, But
that ain't how you even want to approach me.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But whatever, whatever, whatever, I ain't not trying to be tough.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
At the end of the day is I said, that's
my friend.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
If I know you beat chicks up, I'm gonna tell
my friend you beat chicks out.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
What kind of friend of mine? If I'm gonna tell
my friend you beat chicks out? This ain't got nothing
to do with yoe. This got more to do the.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Fact that I know you beat chicks up.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
So me and him got into a whole thing. It
was a hole back and forth. It almost got violent.
But at the end of the day, right before we
ended it, I said, Yo, you do realize that's your name, right?
You are known as the guy that beats chicks up everywhere?
Is that how you want your name walking in rooms

(22:13):
before you? Because regardless of whatever happened in the past,
you could change that now. What you're trying to do
is defend it by you know, that's what you do.
You want to beat me up for saying it, and
ain't it ain't my fault?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Did you beat bsiness women?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
So I had that conversation with him, and I could
see him kind of like just nodding his head.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Like or nah, or you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But those are the It's kind of a hard conversation
to have with niggas, but it's a necessary conversation.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
To have with niggas, and and there's just different ways.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
To go about it.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Like like I said, with you, I would kind of
try to talk to them on some other ship, like.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Y know, why you do it like this or why
you do it like that?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Then may be approached the situation like yeah, because people,
you know, they say, like, yo, you put.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Your hand down, chicks back, smaller.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
They back, and you'll do it like that player, this
is how you do that.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Like I would give him some game like that, But
I don't know if he would accept the game. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
I uh what Dodge was saying, like the manipulation part, but.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, that's that's necessary. You just can't have any conversation
in any kind of way.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Sometimes you got to manipulate people.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
What's wrong with It's a good thing. You can't maniculate people.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Don't people manipulate us?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I feel us every day.

Speaker 9 (23:45):
I feel like I feel like we can't. We can't
talk about manipulation. They can tell in the same you
know what I mean, You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I see where you're going with this, But that's not
I'm just saying we can't. You could manipulate.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I think that when it's something when you're getting them
to do something, when you're like them, or when you're
like go ahead, yes, what you're just saying.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
No to your point, I don't think that's manipulation though,
I think and also I think manipulation has a negative connotation.
And I think to a Q's point, trying to have
a conversation with somebody and trying to get your information
to land and going about that a certain way, it's
different than manipulation to me because manipulation is like you're

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doing something to get something out of it, as to
where in Q's point, it's like, Yo, I'm doing this
so that shit could be better overall. You know what,
I'm saying that this should not benefiting Q personally. This
is benefiting the apparatus of what's going on. So I
don't think the two things are the same thing.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Society. I don't think it's the same thing either. It's
like it's like you're chilling me around to prepare for
the seeds that you're going to be planting in the person.
You want to have the best type of environment so
that your conversation lands and that your conversation sticks. And
I think it's two different conversations with somebody that is

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doing some creep stuff because i'd like to believe nine
times out of ten they just don't know what they're
doing and they think that they're doing the right thing
to try to land the girl, versus having a conversation
with somebody that's beaten on a woman, Like, yeah, that
both conversations should be had, But that second conversation with
that second guy, that's almost like you're doing it so
hopefully that it sticks.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
But you're also doing it, so this nigga knows.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Hey, people know, So the first conversation should be easier
to have if you do the right things and say
it the right way in the right environment. All right,
let's move on. How was y'all weekend?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is where I was going right before I forgot about you?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Weekend?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
How y'all shout out to everybody that had a good
Mother's Day. To the people out there who you know
lost their mom or or not, you know, don't have
a good relationship with their mom.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
My heart goes out to you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I am not the happy Mother's Day guy.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Though.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
How many people did y'all say Happy Mother's Day too
this weekend?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Zero?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Like you said zero?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Who says zero? I said zero?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You don't know any mothers that you know?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
No? I do. But I'm not the happy Mother's Day guy.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why I'm not go ahead? I know I know what mine,
but I won't to what his.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
Well, I mean, I lost my mom. My mom wasn't
a good mom. And like there are times where I'll
say it, but it's not something that's like if I'm feeling,
you know, in good spirits or whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
But ordinarily, I'm not really what you mnna call.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
It, So I don't have a good you know, but
I'm not Like It's not like I can't tell my
friends like, oh, yeah, you know, you're good moms and
stuff like that. I'll do that all the time, but
it's just when the day comes, sometimes I'm either feeling
it or I'm not. So this this year, I wasn't
feeling it, so I did say shit to nobody.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I was having an issue with somebody recently.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And obviously I'm always having issues with people, but I
was having issues with somebody recently, and I went to
talk about it with somebody and they was like, Yo,
you really don't know what people be going through. That
person that being you was so cool with this ship.
So the shit seems like it's coming at you. That
shit probably don't have nothing to do with you. A

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motherfucker just probably be going went through some shit. And
when you say that, Malcolm, I totally understand why you
don't want to do the whole happy Mother's Day shit.
It's like, Yo, I've got my own feelings around this
right there, right now, my own experience with this right now,
I'm not I'm not beat for this, even though other

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people might be.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Like, why you ain't.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Damn, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I can see people being on it like that, but
you don't know what this nigga going through.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Do y'all know people that get offended from not being
told happy Mother's Day or happy birth Well, I definitely
know birthday, but like happy mother's Day, happy problem, stuff
like that, not that I know.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, I got from it, go ahead, No, I was
just not a lot offended.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I know a lot of people. I am driving home,
so remember, I'm sick the whole weekend.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I woke up Sunday. I wanted to do something for
my mother.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I didn't have like I wasn't I wasn't sneezing, I
didn't have phlam, none of that.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I just had this super high fever and it had
come down to like ninety nine, one hundred and eighty
something like that.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So I was like, you know, I took her outside
and we went to every house that we had lived
in on the way to hear right by the way.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
My mother just got over a cold too. Last week.
She had one hundred and four fever, So I wasn't
worried about her catching my shit because.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I knew her antibodies was hot. So anybody's like, so
you went around your mother? No, I thought this through.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I thought this through.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
She had just gotten over a fever as well, so
I was like, all right, so I know she got
past it. That means she could be around me because
she already got the antibodies. But after that, I went
to go get my daughter from the airport. She had
come from seeing her mother, and she was like, did
you wish my mother Happy Mother's Day? I was like no.

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She was like why. I was like, because I don't talk.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
To her, Like it's not.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Even even like I'm mad at her.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
We're cool, but we don't talk.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
What's the point Why do I need to I had
set to her twenty five years ago?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
What is the point.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Why does she need to hear for me? Did you
wish her happy mother Day?

Speaker 12 (30:12):
She's like, yeah, I think that's why didn't you tell
me to hear my baby father from twenty five years ago?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
What the fuck? Then?

Speaker 5 (30:26):
I feel like, what is it?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's like this.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Thing where now if I send that one, then I
gotta send the one to the other one. Then I
gotta send one to my sister. Then I gotta send
one to dodge. Then there's like this.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Fucking it's like a.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Domino effect.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Person that's on the level of you were supposed to
Now I have to and I don't want to, right.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
And my bucking not at all.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
You'll be doing that shit all day.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Lord, gotta get that copy and paste text me got.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Back to January, bro, because now I'm scrolling. Oh shit,
I ain't speak to music in this Oh shit, Oh shit, bro,
I got to January sixteenth before I exited out. If
I haven't spoken to you four months, you're not getting
Happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
But I don't even get I'm gonna keep it rod
with you.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
I didn't send me Happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I said love you, sis the people with I said
love you.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I don't wanna say.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I want to say.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Can I say something?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Your kids made you a card, made you some fucking eggs,
You got your happy Mother's Day?

Speaker 5 (31:43):
What the fuck you need.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
It from me? It's not how to hold you that quick.

Speaker 9 (31:53):
I just want to say this real quick. I just
want to say this real quick. Who's gonna know that
you said Happy Mother's Day? One person over the other.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
It just feels like, yeah, it's the internal thing.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Having an argument with himself about the.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Fact I was so mad, Malcolm, I'm so mad.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Because, Bro, no one's gonna know.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
They're gonna know. Nobody he would know.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
I get that, Like, you know what, I said it
to this person. I gotta see that this person.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I get that.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I sent it to the people that I basically talk
to every day or every other day. I got mad sisters,
mad aunts, cousins. I'm not sending a happy Mother's Day
to all them. I did a post on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Here you go, all the mother's Happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Every mother's everybody she knows.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Who she is.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I've seen a post. Let me see post.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
My man told me that he didn't make plans for
me on Mother's Day since I'm not.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
The mother of his kids. But you have kids and
I am a mother. Am I supposed to be offended?
Or I'm looking at the situation wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
He went out of his way to get his baby
mom or something, but didn't plan on getting me anything.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I might be losing my ship because this can't be
real life.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Question.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
She gotta maybe that, Yeah, I mean, that's not his
that's not him. I don't know what a baby that Oh,
like the question, what do you mean to you?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What do you mean by that? Mm hmm elaborate.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Over here, over there, get that done.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
I ain't here you, I said he in my mind,
that would translate to, all right, you gotta may be father.
That's for him, and y'all cool. I gotta get baby
mama over here, all that settled. That's priority.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
That's my kids.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
You want your yo. That's so cob. I can't hold about.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
I can't believe you even just trying to get that off,
just now that.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I can't believe you just try to do that.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Everyone was like, but because because what happens.

Speaker 9 (34:23):
What happens when when her actual baby daddy brings her
some ship in a gift, and she decides to reward
him for doing that.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Wait with what what's the reward?

Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's what you mean?

Speaker 9 (34:36):
You said you told her the ship that she would
have gave you for for for for taking care of
her that day, she's gonna give to her baby daddy.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
What's the problem is that?

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Is that the ship she's supposed to give me? Damn,
that ain't my lad.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
I'm just saying telling her to go on over there,
then how can you be upset about that he's supposed
to be there?

Speaker 4 (34:59):
He smoke.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Cool at the barbecue, probably right at the barbecue.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Not my man either. He ain't give me nothing from
other things.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
I'm not you little end up saying something off behind that,
you end up setting her off behind that.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You I'm not again her baby father doing something for
her if they have that type of relationship, but I'm
not gonna relegate that responsibility to him, like I'm definitely.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
That's this is me. I'm not going to no, yeah, yeah,
your other nigga. You're basically like, yo, get your.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Come back over the mouth. I feel like the only
way she shouldn't be offended is if is if he
did something for his mother. The fact that he did
something for his baby mom, I feel like he should
also do something for the woman that he's with, if
she's a mother, if his if his thought process was
Mother's Day is for your actual mother. I don't think
I mean, she could feel away, but I feel like

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that that's more acceptable than him doing something for the
mother of his kids. If you're going to do something
for the mother of your kids, then you should do
something for the woman that you're with, who also is
a mother.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
When you say crazy, I don't want to blow it up.
I don't want to blow it up.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
I'm sure load up, load up. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
blow it up.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
What we're here for?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
This is messy. I don't want to be. I don't
want to be. This is messy.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I just take it.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Who thinks I should be messy?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Seemingly?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Do what you.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
M here for? It?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
So I didn't get to say nothing.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Come on, bro, you're lying.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
You're lying what I was sick?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
You're a lie.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Send an Amazon something you.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
For your glasses, for your glasses.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
You're a lucky lucky I just told me to be messy,
all right, But but.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I made sure her kids.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Did all right, all.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right, laid the whole thing out, get this, do this,
go to that store.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
She likes things to eat, makes her show. Make sure
you make her something to eat.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
And in the morning, I laid the whole thing out
and I paid for every single piece.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Do I still got to give us home.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
It's not how you did give us something.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
You gave up the Mother's Day. But the kids I
made mother Day was guess what no, she probably here
listening right.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Now, facilitating experience.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I think she ain't no right hold. The whole time
I'm asking her, so, how was your morning, She's like
it was cool.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
So you did that, but then acted like you didn't
get her nothing. Yeah, I didn't get So is that
for me?

Speaker 11 (38:05):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
What's wrong? Experience? Bro? You? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 7 (38:12):
You can not give her nothing? And then asking how
it was her morning?

Speaker 4 (38:18):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Know you too?

Speaker 7 (38:22):
You're just sitting there looking at it, like, so, how
was your morning?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Like we were? We were. Don't do that. Don't do that?

Speaker 7 (38:34):
What just like just like I seen she's seen you
driving around town with the drop top with moms and
I was still sick.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
As matter of fact, when I got home, I was
on the phone hood and I passed right out.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I was out.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
I was still fucked up.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
You were weekend.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
You should have been planning for Mother's Day last week.
That's what I'm saying. The day of is crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I actually actually, to be honest, I actually was. I
had something, but I couldn't make it over there.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
I was dead.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I couldn't make it over there. That's a fact.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Well, she if she knows you were sick, then she
should know that this is coming Monday, today, tomorrow. Whatever
he was planning going over there, now.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
It's over the next Opportarnity, what.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Is we talking about? When do we talk?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
As I would know?

Speaker 7 (39:29):
Ma said, cook and Thanksgiving turkey on Sunday. Put the
years on Monday night. I got it, We got it.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Y'all got to relax. Y'all gotta relax.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
So if you're sick on her birthday and not just me,
she don't.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I'm sick.

Speaker 13 (39:50):
You want me to to Happy birthday, but yo, come
take care of me. Hey, hey, figure it out. You
just nigga put more effort in the jacket off.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
That's great, that's so crazy.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
That's if you would have spent that if you would
have spent that hour looking for ship. Right, they said,
he spent.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
The hour, like he said, an hour, a whole hour.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
You got an Amazon prompt something that you could have
did something.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
So so y'all telling me that me getting the kids
and all of the gifts from the kids paying for
all that stuff, that's not that's not valid enough, that
count as valid.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Valid enough at least said happy Mother's Day. I say,
I did, I said, say Yeah, I think that's cool
that pipe. She knows the girls ain't going out there
buying the stuff themselves. Yeah, like, I think that is valid.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
It is just the fact that you didn't say anything
about you contributing to this endeavor, so you literally was
just sitting there like, yeah, I'm about to see her business.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
How was your morning?

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I'm supposed to blow up.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I'm supposed to act like I'm supposed to.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I feel like that's crazy, Like, yah, I paid for
all of that ship. The way I got sick was
when I went in there and she was laying there.
That's when I got your daughter got me sick because
I was planning your whole happy Mother's Day and everything
that you liked. That's how I got sick. I'm supposed
to do that.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
I hope you enjoyed the breakfast, yo. I was sick
like you knew it was going back the right.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
YO.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
What you got to remember, I passed out in Brooklyn.
She was in the Bronx.

Speaker 8 (41:51):
I was out.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I could not drive to the Bronx, so I didn't
know if they had given her the breakfast yet. I
didn't know if they had given her the gifts yet.
She literally didn't tell me about the damn strawberry, the
chocolate strawberries till today.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
She's like, like, I don't. I didn't want to blow
it up. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
You know what I'm saying. Because her kids is a
little funny style. I don't know, they might have had
a little plan like, no, we're gonna give her this.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Set one, We're not giving her this till six. They
might do some ship like that. Her kids just balked out,
like playing games. So I was this is why I
was testing the water.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
You think, all right?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
All right, anyway, I'm not that how was your morning?
Would have pissed me off? You know, the kids broke
and you paid for it.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
No, listen, kids be getting money from wherever they're gonna
get it from. All right, y'all don't know. Y'all don't
know my life.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Y'all don't have their idea. It was my idea.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So the.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Question is how do you how do you teach your
kids the importance of days like birthdays, Mother's Day? Because
my kids, I mean, they know when it's their birthday,
but when it comes to stuff like this, it's usually
me taking the lead. They don't take the initiative, and
my daughters eight, my son's twelve. I don't know if
it's too early for them yet.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
That's actually how you do it. You show it them. Hey,
you put the car in, then get it to your mother.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
But I want them to be like, hey, I know,
I know mother, I know my mom.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
My wife's birthday is July first, So I want them
to come to me to say, hey, mom's birthdays coming up.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
What are we going to get her? Can we get
her this? Or can we They don't do that yet.
That's me so much.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
All kids are. They ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
I'm gonna keep it real with you. I think it's
easier for me to do that as a step farp.
And the reason why is because I'm the cool parent.
I can't really punish them. I can't really getting I
had at them right I could. The most I'll do
is get disappointed. But I talked to them like an

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older brother, a much older brother, like, yo, come on, bro,
why would you do that? You know you could have
did it like this? Now you got to go through
this in school. You got him mad at you.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
It's not even worth it.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I try to cosy it. You know what I mean
with it like and so my relationship is on where
they are. And he tried to get it off too.

(44:39):
He tried to like navigate him.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
I didn't even.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Think about it.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
I didn't even about it until I seen god faces.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I didn't even think.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
You got to say the whole thing caused me show it,
show it. Yeah, like different things, but y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I heard.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
He tried to really navigate, like you.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Know, I'm talking and I'm trying to get it off
and I heard them, and then I just rewound what
I said, and I said, that's how I try to
do it. You know what I mean is as a
step dad, it's a little easier for me to coax
and to give a little life lessons because they know

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I can't. I'm not like coming down on them. Your
parents is always on your ass, so it's you don't
really want to.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Listen to them.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
You don't want to hear what they got to say,
you know what I'm saying. So they kind of got
like an older friend in the house that's on their side.
And I think it's easier for them to take advice
from me than it is even from her mom.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Their mom sometimes.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Understandable makes sense.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So how old are your kids.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
My son's twelve and my daughter's eight.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
I think in that and in those years, I wasn't
really pour into your kids, don't take what they do personally.
Her kids were selfish as hell for years years, And
this is why I knew Mother's Day was so important,
because they've always forgotten Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
They've always not done anything right. And you know that
she with her feelings. So I was like, we're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Forget this year.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
We on it because shit, I'd be busy and I
would forget. I would come with the flowers and shit,
but she would be like, they didn't give me nothing.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I'm like, oh fuck, so this year I didn't bring that.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
I got them shit, I got them shit what?

Speaker 4 (47:03):
But I think God better.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Don't take it so personally when it comes to the kids, bro.
Their world is so small, it revolves around them. I
think kids are the most selfish, especially when they're young.
They're very selfish.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah, I'm not taking it personal. I just didn't know
if that is something that a parent does. Does a
parent try to teach their kids to have them to
make these days important or special or do they just
does it eventually happen. Once the kids get older, they
become adults, they realize what it is and it happens.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Should they be wasting Should I be wasting my time?

Speaker 8 (47:40):
I think you should teach that because you don't just
grow up one day and be like, you know what,
this is an important thing.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
You gotta really feel it. It's like Christmas when you young,
Christmas is great, everyone pour into you. As you get older,
Christmas is a day. You gotta instill that that in
them while they're young, hopefully hold on.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
It, giving a certain respect factor. You know what I'm saying.
I feel like personally myself growing up, that was something
that my mom and people that in my life really stressed.
And it was more so of understanding that, you know,
these people won't always be here, you know what I'm saying.
So you show them they flowers, you respect, you know
what I'm saying. You salute them at every chance and
every moment you could get, because you know what I'm saying,

(48:21):
we don't have these moments all the time to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Face from that flower to this ship. Now she she like, yeah,
I'm a little holler.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Put that put that coming back up. I see it. Yeah,
I bet.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
I didn't get a good look at that.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
All right, She'll keep coming. Yes, I do have a
little bit more on this mother's that ship. One more video,
one more thing. What do y'all think?

Speaker 14 (48:56):
Feeling a new level of hate for my daughter in law?
I'm a sixty year old mom of three adult children,
and for over twenty years I've hosted a Mother's Day
lunch at my house.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
It's a tradition.

Speaker 14 (49:07):
My kids bring flowers, we eat, we laugh, and I
get to spend time with the people that I raised.
It means everything to me. This year, my oldest son,
Ben called and said he would not be coming. He
said he was spending the day with his wife, Rachel
and their kids. Apparently she asked for a quiet day
at home, breakfast in bed, no visitors, and no driving.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I was stunned.

Speaker 14 (49:30):
I couldn't believe she convinced my son to skip the
lunch entirely, not even stopping by, not even for an hour.
I said, Rachel is not your mother, and this day
is not about her. She gets a birthday, she gets anniversaries.
Can I have my one day? I told him I
felt like he was choosing her over his own mother.
He said, Rachel's been stressed with the kids and that

(49:50):
this is the only thing that she wanted. I get that,
but why does her day dictate what happens with me
and my son? He offered to call me and maybe
come by later in the week, and I told him
that was not the same. So I text his wife
and said, listen, I know you lost your mom five
years ago.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Oh so may you don't understand how much.

Speaker 14 (50:12):
Yeah, so maybe you don't understand how much these traditions matter,
but they matter.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well that's a very messed up way of saying that.
But okay, now, yeah, mom's dead.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
I don't get it. Well I had a mom and
I do get it.

Speaker 14 (50:24):
So yeah, yeah, Now he's not speaking to me, and
I'm questioning everything. Maybe I was being a bit too
old fashioned, maybe I'm holding on too tightly, but it
really hurts me that he forgot about his own mother
on Mother's Day? Am I wrong?

Speaker 9 (50:38):
Well, Barbara, you're not sucking your son dick, and you
didn't have his fucking kids like bro No, not.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
See that. See.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
The thing is is that Jeffrey.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
Hasn't been wanting to come around you for Mother's Day
for a long ass time. You got he will ask
attitude like that, like you really hit that girl up
and said, hey, I know your mom's dad, so you
probably wouldn't fucking understand this.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
But like, bitch, what nah nigga? I knew.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I seen it in Malcolm face, like she's crazy.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
I ran about it.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
I was out of pocket, and I'm on board with
the son not speaking of I would speaking.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Not a word had a part.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
She had me all up until she reached out to
the wife.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, why why trive? Why do you think she had a.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Point, Because if that's it with the wife's excuse, if
that was me, if that was my mother who had
this tradition and I'm married, with the excuse that the
husband gave, I feel like if it were me, I
would have took the kids and still went like, if
you want a quiet day at him, We'll give you breakfast,
you can stay in bed. I'm gonna take these kids

(51:49):
and I'm gonna go celebrate with my mom like we've
been doing for the past twenty whatever years now. If
she wanted to actually do something and plan something and
have her and maybe start her own tradition my wife speak, meaning,
then I would have told my mom I'm sorry, this
is my wife.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
This is what we're doing. We're starting our own thing.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
But the fact she just wanted to lay in bed,
and now you're trying to tell me that I can't
go to go see my mom on Mother's Day and
all you want to do is lay in bed.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Nah. But if you're gonna reach out to my wife
and tell her what she said, it's it's we're done.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
No.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I think that that last comment was really the problem.
But I also agree you're supposed to at least tell
your moms. Yeah, that's your mother, that's the person that
you know what I mean, she she brought you here.
And yeah, so Tatiana says traditional. Drew said it's a tradition,

(52:45):
and Tatiana respond, the tradition is cool, but he started
his own family and then making traditions there absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I disagree completely. I completely disagree.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
You take your kids over to your mom's house and
break the fact that she's a grandmother and she she
got you. You're successful, you're doing good, you appreciate her,
your mom, your your wife want to stay home and
lay in bed, y'all make up breakfast in the morning
or whatever it is. And you say, Mom, we're gonna
be over the later. I'mnna just make her breakfast. Shit,
I'm gonna get her set and I'm gonna come see you.
I'm gonna take you off the dinner. What's got the

(53:18):
whole day? So you can fit that in.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I think that he's completely wrong for that. I think that.

Speaker 7 (53:27):
Nah, I don't know. I'm not rolling with that. Sorry,
I'm not wrong. I'm not rolling with that. I think
that as his wife and the mother of his kids,
Like if she wanted a Mother's Day with her husband,
kids at the crib, whatever she wanted, Like, why does
why does she not deserve whatever it is too? You
know you other man's got a tradition, cool salute. Hey listen,

(53:51):
I want to do this, like you know what I'm saying,
feel like both things should be able to happen. I
hear your point time about taking the kids and doing
you know and know doing it still, but she that
might have defeated the purpose of it. She might have
wanted to stay inside with her family. Why I got
to be left on Mother's Day alone? You know what
I'm saying, That's that's something.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I want to do. Because she's in bad.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Yeah, I want to be in bad with you. I
want to be in bed with my husband and my
kids like all day.

Speaker 9 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:22):
I'm assuming they don't get to do that that much.
So if that's her one ask for Mother's Day, why
is that like out of the like you know what
I'm saying, Like, why is that something that just can't happen?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Well, I'm going to.

Speaker 9 (54:33):
Interrupt, because did she say that she wanted to lay
in bed all day or did she say she wanted a.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Quiet day in the house. I thought she said, do
something for you.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
We're gonna get these kids out of here and it'd
be waiting. Nope, it'll be way more quiet without me
and these kids around.

Speaker 9 (54:51):
I did so for me, So for me, I would
have to look at the context of it all, because like,
I understand where you guys coming from, and maybe, yes,
I am adding a different kind of context to it.
But his wife said, Hey, I want to spend a
quiet day in with you and our family, and the
husband goes, okay, I'll tell my mom. I don't think

(55:12):
there's any argument there or pushback, or at least at
least it didn't sound like it was relayed that way anyways.
So there's probably more there too that than what we're seeing.
But I don't think that like once you go out
and start your own family, I don't think that that
has like you're you going to your mom's house as

(55:33):
a tradition for Mother's Day has to trump your because
I'm assuming you or your wife, you guys got kids,
that you've been doing this tradition for the time that
you guys have been married as well. So why is
it that we can't have one time where I would
like to be put first as the.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Mom of this family? Malcolm ro.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Your mom, But I sound unreasonable.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Family, Yo, I.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Bought, we got you a house. I live with you,
I'm with you all of the time. I'm not with
my mom all the time, and she's not got much
time left. Yo, this is Mother's Day. I'm going I'm
doing what I'm You are now part of the tradition.
You know that, But you want to make it about
you and X. My mom's out for this one year,
for that one day that really matters.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
If it maddened to my mom, we've been really doing it,
and it maddened to me we've been doing it for
this long.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Why the funk. Would you try to take that over?
Why audition?

Speaker 9 (56:36):
Now?

Speaker 3 (56:36):
If it isn't the tradition, If the tradition used to
be me going over to my mom's house, and you
really want to be a part of it, it's us
going over.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
To my mom's house, that's that's the tradition. Or we
go for we go to my mom's house and then
if you got.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
A tradition with your mom, we go to your mom's house.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Or if we got something that we want to do
now we can go to my mom's house and then
go do what we want to do.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But you're not gonna tell me I can't go to
my mom's house.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Why it's fun as day? You see, this is the thing.

Speaker 9 (57:02):
There's a thing I've been I'm adding context, you're adding context,
but we don't know what the actual story is.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
So with that being said, we don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
We don't know if the wife is like, oh no,
fuck your tradition or whatever. We don't know that. We
have no idea about that.

Speaker 9 (57:21):
So if there, if it's something, that's because first of all,
she's known she they've been together for I'm imagining some
years now, and every single year they go to the
mom's house.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
For this, she is a part of the attriction.

Speaker 9 (57:34):
She understands that. But this one year she was like, Hey,
I just want to stay in the house with my family. Now,
why does that have to be a problem.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
So that no, you got to go because.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
The tradition?

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Why that?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Why do you need to You can stay in the
house with your family. I'm going to stay in the
house with you, but I want to go see my mom.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
What's the fucking problem?

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yes, well, stay out to a point, but I want
to make sure I go see my mom. How can
somebody say, oh about that?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
But who said? But who said she told him that
he can't go. I'm assuming that. I'm told you this
isn't a letter. If she didn't say that, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yeah, But my problem is she had a right.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I understand why she would feel away up until the
point where she said, your mom's dead.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
So I guess you don't understand.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
But yeah, up until that, I understood why she would
feel with and it would be I would feel a
way towards him more than the wife, to be honest,
yeah I would.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
I wouldn't be mad at the wife.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
And that's I don't think what you're saying is unreasonable.
But I'm what my thought process is is, Okay, you
want to it's Mother's Day for you as well, and
you want to say and you want to have a
quiet day with it, with the whole family there. I
think if she is saying I don't want you going
to your mom's thing, that's where I.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
Have a problem with because why And that's the part
that I'm saying, we don't know that that that that
occurred that way, because he could because it very well
could have been I want to spend Mother's Day at
home with my family, with you, our family, and like
he could have been like, Okay, well know, we'll spend
time together for the majority of the day and then
I'll go pop over to my mom's house real quick.

(59:16):
We don't know what transpired there. All we know is
that he told his mom, I'm not coming the fuck
over here.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
So you like, no, you gotta no, no, I agree, no,
I agree with everything that you're saying, Malcolm. And I think,
like somebody in the chat said, like, like going back
to the context thing as mom said in a fucked
up way, but this girl also lost her mother, So
again going back to the family portion if she just
wants to spend time with her family at the crib.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
It can't.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
That can't be an indictment on your whole tradition, some
ship that we popped up to every single year, Like,
it can't that. We can't make this one time and
referendum on everything.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
It can't be. Let me, let's tag team this.

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
As you said earlier, people, you don't know how somebody
may be feeling on this particular day, or what they
may be going through or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Now his wife has lost his mom, she been dead for.

Speaker 9 (01:00:14):
Whatever the fuck like her mom, like his mom brought
up a bitch, So we don't know how she could
be feeling that day. That day he could be hitting
her extra motherfucking heart. And now you're about to go
at band or your wife to go to your mom,
I mean, because that's how.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
That's how his momad He abandoned me like that. You're here,
he said, you're gonna come see you tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Relax, I mean, And I understand what you are saying,
but I also think that it's almost unreasonable to have
that thought process on Mother's Day or Father's Day, because
you know, for the most part, Mother's Day and Father's
Day is a celebration of somebody that's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Not in your home. So I get it. You can
want that, but you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Also have to have respect for the person. If their
parents are still living, they also want to celebrate their
parents as well. And if there's a tradition that's already established,
if you want to create another tradition or a new tradition,
we can do that. But you still got to give
any time to celebrate with my mother if she's still here.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
That happened, but that seemingly happened, right, This is what
this is what we're saying, Like if every Mother's Day,
if he's never missed the Mother's Day, that means all
the way up until that they were saying they never
missed the Mother's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
So again back to my mother's gone, slut, ain't no
choice thing, but my thing.

Speaker 9 (01:01:33):
Is My thing is though is again like you, I
agree with what you're saying, but I'm saying that like,
so when does it come back around for me? If
I'm hurt, if I'm the wife, when does it come
back around for me? Because my mom's been dead, so
that today this day could be hurting, It's more than

(01:01:54):
likely is hurting. Every year since she's been gone, So
at every year or since she's been gone.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
I don't. I don't know if they've been together that long.
I'm just assuming here. I've been going to your mom's
and I've been celebrating your mom with you. So this
one year, we can't. I can't. It can't hit me hard.
You can't be here for me.

Speaker 9 (01:02:13):
I have to put what I feel aside for your mom. Yes, no,
see that that's that's that's not that's not rational.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You can get you can get before this day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Is that's not ration and respect that you have for
your mom that isn't here. I have that same love
and respect for my mom. That is and when you
did not get the other one doesn't trump.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
And I can understand that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
But at the same time, though, like this is your wife,
like this is the mother of your children, and if
she's gone through something, I'm confused at how we can't
be there for her and we have to actually go
you know, fuck it, I'm still going to go be
with my mom. Like what are we talking about? I
don't understand how that's how that something that's like unreasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
I think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
I'm sorry, I think to Malcolm's point, this isn't a
logical discussion, it's an emotional one because if his wife
is legit going through something, it really don't matter. You're
going for two minutes, and now she feel abandoned, and
she feels that way because she's thinking about her mom
and going over to your your mom's house and looking
at that situation could bring up some things. And yeah,

(01:03:30):
when you get into that emotional side, it's no, there's
no leeway in that. It's like, Yo, we're doing it
this way. That's how I feel emotionally safe. That's how
it's going to work. You go out, you step outside,
now you know your mind get to going.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Yeah, and also.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Looking at house so and again and the next again
and again.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
We're making the assumption that she told this nigga he
can't go over there at all. Yeah, my stance is
based off of that. Outside of that, I'm one hundred
percent with you. But yeah, but we don't. We don't.
But that's the thing, we don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:04:08):
We don't know that she was like, no, you can't
go over there, because a lot of niggas will be like, yeah,
I can't go do this because you know, I gotta
go kick it with my girl or my girl's pissed off,
so you know, I gotta stay at home when the
nigga actually just wanted to stay at home too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Why do wives and mothers be in competition with each
other so much? Like I've seen this on the internet
so much. Bro, we are creating family here. Family is
the entire community. It's your mom, it's my mom, it's
all it's all these things encompassing, Like what why do
you why?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Why is what is this beef thing between the wife
and the mom. I'm confused.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
I think that the end of like part of her
with her sol soliloquy, like, I think that is the issue.
It's her feeling like exactly what she said to her, Like, Yo, listen,
you'll know nothing about this because your mom is dead.
But basically, Nick, it's still celebrating me over here, and
it ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be, not gonna have
none of that, not celebrating of me, Like we're not

(01:05:07):
doing that. You have to understand how that sounds to
somebody who lost their mother. You gotta understand what you're
saying here, like asking and we're asking somebody to put
their good their good or their good clothes on with
their good shoes, with a good bag and going in
with a smile on and dance and drink and have
a good time. And the whole time they're feeling like whatever.

(01:05:28):
I mean, we're saying, never mind to that, just never
mind that, get the good shoes, put on your good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
It's like.

Speaker 7 (01:05:36):
A no, no, I'm just saying, like I just under
I just don't understand, Like this person is also going
through something too, and we're asking them to go through
a bevy of emotions and basically just disregarded. We're just
not even gonna account for that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
I think that's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Unfortunately for me, I think this is an immature thought process.
If it's all, it's got to be about her the
whole day, Like yo, I can wake up, make you breakfast,
we can watch Die Hard, like we can we can
have a fucking whole day. At five o'clock, I'm gonna
go have dinner with my mom. If you want to

(01:06:14):
stay in the crib, I totally understand. I'll be back
by like eight thirty. Like, what is the big fucking deal.
I don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
And again for me, that's a that's his fault. I
can't see why a woman would be like, nah, you
can't go to your mom's crib.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I just I don't know why we really having this
conversation and they're like, Yo, your wife comes first the
whole day.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
I can't just go see my mom real quick, I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Think, I think we gotta keep in mind, this is
instilling the mom. The mother of the sons was telling
the story, right.

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
You know, we keep going back to like maybe the
son don't want to go over that at all, but
given a situation, she's not gonna throw a son at
the But so I think, like, oh, her son doesn't
want to see her, she's gonna see oh the son
listening to the wife.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
And a wife is attacking the whole situation, just like
look at the storyteller versus the story in this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
All right, well that was a really great discourse, y'all.
Let's move on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I have one more thing about moms and then we're
going to talk about men.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Let me get through these comments. Man, they were going
crazy with these comments about this day.

Speaker 15 (01:07:31):
This mom.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Isn't a marriage about compromise. If you wanted to go
go for an hour and give me the rest of day.
That's That's kind of where.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I was landing with it. But everybody has their own
feelings and I understand them. Okay, I saw a I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
A bunch of damn mom, I knew that was Dodge
that wrote that ship. I guess it was a slide
show on Instagram. A young lady says. After I booked
a one way ticket to Nigeria for the last part

(01:08:13):
of my solo trip, my husband called and asked me
what day my flight back to the US was, and
my exact words to him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Were, I don't have a flight back to the US
because I'm not coming back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
He was surprised about my decision and asked me, why
are you not coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I told him that it was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Time for me to prioritize myself and based on my
declining mental health, this was the right move for me
at this time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I asked him to send out twelve year old.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Yeah, I saw.

Speaker 7 (01:09:18):
When you identify the mental health and the climate is flying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I asked him to send a twelve year old to
join me in Nigeria as it would be better for
him than staying in the US. But he was a
bit hesitant, so I told him to enjoy their time
together and they can come visit me in Nigeria whenever
they like. That's when I That's when he realized that
I was actually serious about my decision and sent my
son to join me in Nigeria. I picked up baby

(01:09:52):
from the airport and my heart was happy. So yes,
I did move to Nigeria and my baby boy is
here with me. We've been living here for a few months.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
I know where in Bawe made the call. Not gonna
trick me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
What you mean, I know where made the call. I know,
I know what I know.

Speaker 15 (01:10:16):
I know I know that move.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
What do you mean?

Speaker 7 (01:10:21):
And backway made the call? Put the call in said yo,
get your at yot me told her that he told
her the good stuff. She dropped everything. So I'm on
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
You're trying to tell me that she like got her
groove back in Nigeria.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
I'm telling you in Backway ran into what you ran
into a Nigga name.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
In Backway, somebody's in a different country. I'm trying. I'm
trying to tell you that the business to be put
on the seventy two hour hold.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
You about.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
What the.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
You about you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You're not coming back at all because of your declining
mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
In that ain't declined. It broke, it's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
It's already. In Nigeria, it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Bugging baby.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
That was like, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Decision?

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Oh how old is the kid? Well?

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Sending them? Sending them? You want to you want to
run out there and back way? I bet check the
I can't sit. I can't send the kid.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
I can't do it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:04):
I can't do it because there's gonna be some ship
that I'm gonna get a phone call from whoever the fuck,
wherever the fuck, and some bad shit's gonna have happened,
because this bitch is already snapped.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
I'm sitting there.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
Remember you know what, Actually, I take that back. I'm
not sending the kid.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
There's no way.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
There's no way you're making You're making a good point
because anybody's mental health, anybody who can identify the mental
health declining, and then their next move is that it's like,
I'm not sending my.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Kid over there. You would help you, I mean, you
would hope she's Nigerian and at least has been there before.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
He looking at you send a twelve year old boy
to a whole nother country.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Oh it's a boy.

Speaker 8 (01:12:54):
Yeah yeah, giving the hormones in the mid keep probably
going to puberty now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
She already mentally declined.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
What you're trying to say?

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Hey, you have you ever been like transplanting to a
whole other place? Did the kid have a saying this?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
You know, the kid don't be having no say.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
All to night.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
But imagine the day, young kid. Hey, your mom decided
up and move to Nigeria and she's not coming.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Back, and now you're going to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Now you're going to It's crazy, yo.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
No, y'all got up, nigga said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Somebody in here said he didn't love his son. No
I do, but go with your moms.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Make me a single.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
I agree with y'all. Would have probably kept the kid.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
But come on, bro, if i'm starting over, I'm starting over.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
Yeah, you're not about to be making these drass decisions
for me. And then you just get to get away
Scott free. Fuck now you got some responsibility here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
He didn't come. She didn't even come back to get
her ship.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Brot divorced you just.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Nobody just right?

Speaker 12 (01:14:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
What what was she doing?

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
How long was the trip on tour.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Yeah, the last leg of the trip.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
What she said, I booked the trip to Nigeria one
on one way.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Like what that bitious? Mental health crumbled a year.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Ago, Josh, she has declining mental health. Why you wann't
take care of the kid? That's that sounds like run
to me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Kids paid.

Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
She gotta something because motherfuckers that minds have snapps do irrational,
illogical things. And I explain that so well know you're
not getting that kid though. That's because now I'm not
about for my child through that make bad decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
It might not be mental health at all. The real
reason might be another guy then or another girl.

Speaker 16 (01:15:36):
When I see it, you saw that Nigerian dick was like,
you know what, and if you don't relocate, I'll tell
you at least the dragon one time she said, up,
I'm even my belongings, clothes, memorabilia.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Started hearing drums and chant and ship. I'm sorry ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Somebody said she's been planning this ship for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
See that yesterday? Did you see Ice on the jp
P talking about how there's no girls trips?

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Is not? What's that about?

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Yeah, y'all do y'all got a problem with y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Wives, girlfriends or somebody you know seriously dating going on
these trips with their girlfriends.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
I would have a problem with that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
Mm hmmm, have a blast, go, please, please please go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Why do you think that Ice has a problem with that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Personally?

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
I think I think Ice have a problem with According
to the according to the pod man, his girl was
at the club too long. He ain't like he was
calling it down. So if she was just at the
club off the block or you know, around the way,
you was beating the phone down then and you know,
seemingly you know she didn't she didn't come home on time.

(01:17:08):
When she came home a little late, What do you
think is gonna happen in another country on the girls trip?
Mad bad influence is going around. You think you think
that call, You think that call gonna land, You think
you think you think you call her any times. You
think that's about to do something. And then she called

(01:17:28):
you in the morning like, oh yeah, the hotel phone down,
fell asleep?

Speaker 11 (01:17:35):
You did?

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
You can put in the mattress the whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
To be sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
When they say that I was asleep, do they phone?

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Maybe at the barbecue.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
It depends.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I'm not saying that women never fall asleep.

Speaker 7 (01:17:57):
And wake up sometimes sometimes sometimes, depending on the woman.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I won't say never. That's crazy. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Out of ten times a woman said she was sleep,
how many times would she sleep?

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
How long y'all been wucking with each other? Yeah? That
part too, And.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
If you know her, because I know a lot of
sleepy women, maybe all being sleep.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
Yeah, that's that's definitely true. But I ain't gonna lie.
That's about a fifty percent. I'm gonna go on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
That's a motherfucker corny toss my bad.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
Yeah, and you but you could tell though, like you
can tell like certain people, certain people who's really engaging,
they'll talk to you all the time, and then it's
just like, you know, yeah, it's just they's just one
one Saturday. You know what I'm saying. If you was
seventy eight, you know what I'm saying, it's like, oh,
you know, at the same time, you want to come

(01:18:51):
in new minds.

Speaker 9 (01:18:52):
You don't got to explain to me why you ain't
text back, So I don't even I don't need if
you if you are, if you are putting out there,
oh my bad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
I went to sleep early. Yeah, you cause you ain't
got to tell me that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I don't need to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
That's cool. I'm saying, I don't have when you text me.
If you text her she don't answer you for two days,
you don't want a reason.

Speaker 9 (01:19:13):
If well, first of all, if she if, if she
if I text her, if she don't answer me for
two days, that is not my bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
So it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
Something that and that it's already established and understood. It's
not something that we even need to have a discussion about.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
They're supposed to be doing stuff on a trip.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah, but two days yeah, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 9 (01:19:40):
If you're if you are my person and you don't
message me back for two days, we have an issue.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
If you just some girl, I know we may be
at length or something like that, and you don't, I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
You're not mine, I don't, I don't. You do whatever
fuck you want to do. But if you are, if
we're together and you go on a trip, I'm gonna
need you to message me daily. And it's not because
I'm worried about like who you doing or whatever the
fuck you're doing. It's for safety things like I don't
want to be cool with you going day going day

(01:20:12):
that I'll talk it to you. And I find out
some ship, like the bitches you went with beat your
ass to death and now I'm finding out about it
after they came back home. But it's not it's not
not anything. Yeah, it's not anything. It's not anything that
I think it's weird that people have to like keep
tabs on somebody. First of all, it's just never that's

(01:20:35):
my thing on that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
But nah, I don't. I don't. I don't require that
and I don't need to hear you tell me that
you done went to sleep. I don't care. Yeah, I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
Personally, I don't. The Ice situation, like I feel like,
you know, and they were talking about being insecure and
not feel like you can trust your girl or not
wanted her inserting situations, and to me, I feel like,
if you're going, if that's something that you want to do,
you really want to go, like I'm gonna support you
and going, And I feel like whatever's gonna happen is

(01:21:04):
gonna happen. So like I can't fucking block every dragon
that come your way. It's either gonna turn them down
or that like you know what I'm saying, Like, I
can't be I can't be the dragon blocker, like you
know what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna myself trying
to fight off every dreg like it's like, yo, you
know what I'm gonna like. That's when as men sometimes

(01:21:28):
we got to just step up and say yo.

Speaker 15 (01:21:29):
If I'm calling them dragons crazy animation, I'm just saying, bro,
I can't like that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
I can't put myself through the mental stress of that.
So again, I want you to do what you're gonna do.
And if you're if you're gonna do that, you're gonna
do that regardless whether I'm trying, whether I'm blocking the
fifty over here, it's gonna be thirty that creeps through
over here. So I'm better off just staying on my ground.
If I'm really that nigga, then I should just be
that nigga comfortably.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
You did it, You did it?

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
Yeah, I can get can.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
Do y'all subscribe to the start process if I trust you,
But I don't trust your friends.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Not really.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
Yeah, yeah, Because unless I'm worried about some actual physical
danger coming from the friends, is I trust you or
you decide to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
I mean, influence is influence, but that don't really mean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Nothing real life.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
I know, I know which one of your friends are
pieces of ship, so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
Yeah, if somebody can influence you to do some ship,
I don't like That's that it's proof that I don't
need to be dealing with you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
I might need a weak bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:22:47):
Somebody coming to and just say some ship and trick
you and then just doing some ship exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Goble bitch.

Speaker 6 (01:22:59):
Of your girl going change if you're married and she's
going with a bunch of single people, Oh that's a
good one.

Speaker 8 (01:23:08):
That's another little moment first, that flock together stay together.
So it's a whole mindset. A single trip versus a
marriage trip. It's just two different mindsets when you're going out, right,
So yeah, you're going out to the club and maybe
she is a little gullible and we all been swept
away just in the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Doing shit.

Speaker 8 (01:23:29):
We out having fun, drinking, blah blah blah, we ain't
even think about nothing else.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
So yeah, I can see that being an issue.

Speaker 8 (01:23:35):
But even if because even if they decide to do
what they do, that's accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
You did it, yo, can I tell you all the story.
So and I made sure I asked Drew just now
if I could tell the story, because we're not doing
it anyway. We're not doing it no more. But you know,
a bunch of us are trying to plan his bachelor party.
Make sure you have baschet party. Were going over to
dr so.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
A couple of people was like, yo, we're going to
get the tups and I'm like, what's the two?

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
Hm? Oh okay, no, what's the two? Oh okay, that's
short that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
You can't debut it like that? Yeah, like that, you
gotta talk about run that back, Run that back for me.

Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
So you know they now counting how many tooths they
want for a person.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
Reading the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
I'm reading the chat, right, I'm like, all right, everybody
get two or whatever. So, yeah, we're going so I'm
slaying this one. I'm slaying this one, and I'm I'm
I'm reading it and I'm like, just too. I sent
to I sent to a lonely text in the middle
of all of this, I was like, can I be honest.

Speaker 12 (01:25:04):
I don't I don't want to see I don't, I
don't want to I'm sorry, we can get him. I
get mind him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
I don't want.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Somebody under that neither, bro. Now the truth comes out
from everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Laying man, you don't want no.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
I got a good right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
I don't want not my thing. Imagine it all away
for that. It's crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:25:52):
Imagine imagine y'all sitting in there and don't nobody you
want to get no toes my niggas feel like they.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Bought to your niggas. Enforce yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I didn't even want niggas to think that. I wasn't
gonna do it at the last one.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
I'm telling y'all now, but the reason I brought this
up was because of your friends influencing you to do
some ship you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
And peer pressure. And I was like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I don't know if that's gonna work for me, you
know what I'm saying. So I can see the pear
pressure part though, But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
I don't want to.

Speaker 11 (01:26:29):
Can we name this that I don't want to? Yes,
I don't want to absolutely for sure, title I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
I don't want to.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
Spelling you know, go ahead, Oh you're spelling too, Like
the actual end of the word prostitutes. I don't see
the tooths like to you know, like it up. Yeah, farts,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Listen, listen, Nay, that is wild. It's my bities.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
I feel like you should just trust your partner it,
bro And I don't know if you got to watch
them and control them and monitor them the whole time,
what did y'all together?

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
What's the what's the point? Brok?

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
And that ship can't be if you got to keep
the motherfucking wild animal in a cage. Just know, the
minute they get out their cage, they out, they bug it.
They're going crazy. So I don't want I don't want
to be wiped up with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I gotta do that too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
I don't all right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
I'm going to end the first episode here, as y'all know,
y'a already know, we go for a while. I'm going
to release this one this week and I'll probably release
the next one next week.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Wow, we are out in dr with the twos.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
If you want to listen to the whole thing, I
will upload the whole thing up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
On so shameless Patreon, y'all already know Patreon dot com
Backslash So Shameless podcast if you want to hear the
entire episode ad Free with Me. Yesterday, Trav, Malcolm and
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present to the room. This has been great, y'all. Thank

(01:28:28):
you all for your energy. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Okay,
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