I Dont Want No Tutes (part two)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying so so shameless, If
you know what I'm saying due, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
So so seamless.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, say
if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So shame it is should Welcome back here, Welcome back
to So Shameless.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
We're still here.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's me Trav Q, Malcolm and Yesterday the Dragon.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I'm freshly nutted and off on nap so I'm ready
to go. That's oh crazy? What all right? So you
can talk about Jack and all.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
For So I started the first one and now you're starting. Yeah,
that's why my energy is good.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Freshly noted, my ship was my ship was good strong.
I thought, yes, I'm sorry, go ahead, my bad. I
don't even I'm good. I don't even know what Brandon.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Welcome back to So Shameless, y'all. Okay, so we ended
with the insecurity situation. Now I did see another situation
before I get into all of these videos that we have,
I have a question.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm gonna read this thing first. I'm gonna read this
story first.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
The story goes, I lent my husband three thousand dollars
a few weeks before my birthday. I didn't ask too
many questions, were married, and I figured he needed it
for something work related. Fast forward to my birthday. He

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surprised me with the most beautiful matching jewelry set and
took me to an amazing dinner. I really felt special.
It was a milestone birthday, and I honestly had a
great time. But later on I found out everything, the jewelry,
the dinner, all of it was paid.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
For with the money I lent him.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now I'm sitting here like, was it self thoughtful or
did I just give myself let me know if I'm
overthinking this or would you feel a way too?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Depends I ever, he pays it back.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
That's the problem. That's what I don't like. I don't
like that.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
The reason I don't like that is, can you how
do you borrow somebody?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I got to borrow money from you? If I was
just gonna say that, like what, like, what do you
mean borrow money in the first place? Is our money?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
No? No? No, no, Because I understand exactly what you got.
I absolutely understand. But if it was the other way around,
that is our money.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
I believe in separate accounts and joint accounts. If I
got an account, you got an account, and we got
an account, that's three different accounts.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
But all of those accounts are her accounts as well, because.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
You're gonna if she needs if she needs something, you
gotta do whatever you gotta do. It don't matter like
you can be like I ain't got it and you
got your own separate accountsl.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
With and as and as a guy, you can't ask
for it back because that looks crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yobaby with that fifty said Tuesday, But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
But I take that seriously. That's a whole for me.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Is it's uh, if we agree this is a quote
unquote loan, then it's alone.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Otherwise I just gave it to you.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
A loan from the from a spouse. Though yeah, I can't.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
I try to keep it strict boundaries when it comes
to stuff. So it's like it's alone.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Cool. If it's not, I'm gonna just give it to you.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Take it after the back.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Now I gotta be like, wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm kind of rolling with you
on this. And the reason why I am is because
this is imagine this. Every week we get our money,
we divvy it up to the way that it's supposed
to go, right, like put a certain amount of the
joint account. That's for every that's for everything, I shared money,
whatever it is. I saved my money to do the

(05:04):
things that I want to do in my own account.
You save your money to do your own personal things
that you want to do.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
You come to me and say, hey, I fucked up.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
I don't have this bread in my personal account, but
I want to do something, and I borrow the money
that you're saving to do the thing you want to do,
and I'll give it to you back.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
That is not.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
That's a loan, because you know that's from my car
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
If that's from my.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Gaming my new gaming tower, or whatever the fuck it is.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
I'm am I wrong for thinking that, yes, that money
do got to get paid back. That's I feel like
that's what he was saying, like, Yo, yeah, I'll take
it for my savings and give it to you. But
you know, I'm trying to save up to get this
new unprouder or charger or whatever the fuck help me.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Are you saying that's the exact conversation. I would think
that is. I think that's what he was pointing to.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Use the word loan. Now, that's when we get specific.
I'm a loan you. That implies I'm gonna pay you back, right,
give me this money, or maybe you ask for a
loan and I decide, or I'm gonna just give it
to you.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I'm gonna pay With that conversation, but I think you
also need to include that I need this money because
I want to get you these gifts.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
For your birthday.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
But that was in conversation. It was just all I
need is money.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm saying it should be if that's the conversation, that
part should be included.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
I don't know if I agree with that tribe.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
I don't know if I agree with that tribe, because
I think that in the perfect world, I would think,
let's just say that he does have the money. But
let's say you know your pay schedule. You just don't
have it at that moment, but you want it. You
gotta do something in a timely fashion, right, So it's like, Okay,
let me take this bread, pay for this because I
know I'm gonna get it right back, put it back,
you know what I'm saying, just so I don't miss

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my you know, window or whatever it is at the moment.
So I think in that setting and doing it like that,
I think it's warranted, you know what I'm saying, especially
if it's that type of situation. But if it's just
like yo, I literally just took your money to you
know what I'm saying, to buy your stuff. I had
no intention of paying you back. I had no plan,
I had no nothing behind it, then that's where the

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tiles point. I think that it's a little it's a
little weird. But if it's if it's a a situation
of you know, money and time, I think that that's
okay to do, you know what I'm saying. But especially
if you're you know you're gonna pay it, you know,
if you have an actual plan, you know.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
So I think it is if you phase it back,
if you don't pay it back, and then like you
you pay own ship.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, the situation is I need the money because my
pay is the following week and I need it for
this week, then yeah, I agree, with you, Yes, But
if the situation is I just don't got it and
your birthday is coming up and I want to get
you this stuff, I feel like she should know because
three thousand dollars it's a lot of money, so she
should know, Hey, this is for something specific. You may
not have to tell her this is for this is

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I want to get you something for your birthday. I
need this so that she can be like, well, you
don't got to do all that.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Especially, I think that I think that I think that
if you tell her like preemptively, hey, I'm taking this
money from you to do this thing, we get to
her last step faster than we got there, which is
her feeling like, what the fuck I bought my own shit.

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So I mean like, I feel like the point was
he was trying to avoid that whole thought process from happening,
but she still found out anyways.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, and her finding out that somehow I guess
that he paid or whatever. I think she should have
had the money back before that ever could have happened,
you know what I'm saying. By the time she's seen
whatever she's seen, the money should already been back, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
So then it's you know what I said.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Then it's just like, yo, this is a matter of
you know, time and moving up money as opposed to
her what she felt like, Yo, I just bought my
own ship and you know that's it type shit.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think that's kind of whack of herd to say that, to.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Be honest, to say, what, did I just buy my
own ship for my birthday? You know, I'm giving you
the money back, like using it for something you knew
I needed it for something else. You knew I needed
the bread for whatever. But no, I didn't use it
for whatever for me. I used it for you. And

(09:33):
you're now your thought process is did I just buy
my own ship? Like, yo, that's selfish to me, that's weird.
Did she at the end of that, I'm sorry. Did
she at the end of that asked whether or not
she should be offended? Did she ask that?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Okay? Now, see that's where I think that she's whack at.
I don't think she's whacked for like obviously, obviously you
just bought your own ship, like that's that's obvious. But
I think she's whacked for like wanting to be offended
by that, Like, bitch, what are you offended by it,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
And I don't even think she bought her own shit either, Malcolm,
because I took that I found something that I like
for you, I bought it, and I'm gonna pay you back.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
You did not buy your own shit. You only bought
your own ship.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
If I'm not paying you back as to acust it,
if I'm gonna pay you back, yes, you paid for
your own ship that I picked out for you. But
either way, I went and did this for you.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Why are you thinking.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
About all this if we quote unquote married. Remember she
keeps saying to my husband, right, yeah, that's the weird
work for me.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
But the insinuation is, you know my birthday is coming up.
You knew you wanted to get this gift. Why didn't
you plan better? Why are you asking me when you
could have planned better?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
That was the plan.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
That happened.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
She said, she got the stuff, she got a dinner.
It all happened. The planning was on point.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
I mean, we're out in context, so I can only
assume that's something that came about to where he wasn't
going to have the money that he needed to fulfill
these things for happening, but he still wanted them to happen,
which is why you said alone, I'm just assuming that's
what That's what it is.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Hold on, the women are frying the nigga for not
having three bands.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh yeah, and we assuming the whole thing costs three bands.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
She said.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
The jewelry he did matching jewelry and took out for
a lavish birthday dinner.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Does it change if it costs five bands six bands total?
Does it change if it costs more? And he just
needed this to add on to it.

Speaker 8 (11:45):
Whoa, you're cooking. You're cooking right now, you cook it,
you cooking with oil right now?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Hey, you was just you was just a sprinkles, now.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
A nigga? Three more exactly what you know, take your
little change, take your little fun. Thousand dollars back all
this ship costs. Team if you're broke. Look, I.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Got a question, why why hold on, hold on? Why
can't a nigga not have money?

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Like? What the hell? Like give me hold on, hold on?
Hold Why can't a nigga not have three thousand dollars
to just randomly drop on you.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
On your birth like three grand?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Like three grand?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Whole country is what.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
You did. My husband would not what.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Three grand basically just throw away?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Exactly what? I got A question?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm thinking about it from a woman's point of view.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Right, you go out to dinner, right, you give her
the money, like you cash out the money to pay
for the dinner, but she gives the she gives her
card to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes, right, how does that situation feel like?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Hold on? Can I pause this first second?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Hold on? Hold on?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, because now
I'm pissed because you y'all be fucking niggas for free.
So now how to go? I'm sorry? Continue continue shit, shit.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I can see.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I know some people who will feel away just by
giving a card, you paid for it, You gave them
the money, you cash out them before they even gave
the card. But the act of them paying for it themselves,
they'll feel a way about that.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
A woman would feel a way about that.

Speaker 10 (13:55):
I know something that what.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Mmm? What you said?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
C I'm sorry I was I was laughing at taanas.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So let's say you.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Go out to dinner, right, and for whatever reason, you
give her the money to pay for the dinner. Right,
you cash it to her, and then she physically pays
for it with her card or whatever. I can see
some people feeling a way just in that act alone.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Oh that's been discussed. Yeah, that's been discussed all over
the internet, and they feel they do here. Yeah, that's
something they feel like they're paying for it.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, who's more caught up in the money aspect when
it comes to dating women or men?

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Like, who's really driving this? Look at the women clearly?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, we just gotta you know, hang on, it's women.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
And then men by proxy of women because you're trying
to impress. I feel like guys is caught up on
it too, though, because that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Yeah, because we have to because that's what they want.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, but I see like a video I seem like
one of them twenty v one joints, right, you know
everybody's doing it now. Everybody's doing twenty v one now.
But I've seen one with a dude asks the girl
if we went on a date, would you pay for
the first day?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
And she was like, I.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Mean I would, but I would think the first date
that you would be you know, wooing me or whatever.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
He popped his blow by.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm like, I'm sitting there looking at my phones.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
What happened? Right?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Like, Oh, I just think a woman should be willing
to pay for a first date.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
And I'm like, bro, why are we so.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Caught up.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
On this money situation?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
And I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 11 (15:57):
Is it the women that are driving or the niggas
realize that they don't have enough money to be dating,
or like like or because listenis.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
What I think.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Speaking the truth, I think there's a few bad apples
that spoiled the bunch. Because as as guys who's dating,
we are we spending this money every day and we're dating, right,
this is in a committed relationship. I might be dating
other people and.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm not gonna lie. To the women's point of view, Oh,
I was like, did this nigga is? Yeah, he froze
a little bit cute?

Speaker 5 (16:48):
You froze, you said from a women's point of view,
and we didn't hear anything else.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
So from a woman's point of view, they don't care
about how many other people you're dating, how much money
you spent on anybody else.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's about what you did for her.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
So you're looking at it from a suffective like, yo,
I spent one thousand two thousand dollars on dates this week,
but she got a three eight or fifty dollars eight.
She's like, Oh, you.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Don't even spend fifty dollars on me, Am, I not
worth it?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
No, you was that yo. It's been a long week week,
I mean. But if we're you know, if we're gonna
stand on the other side of it all this all
goes back to the first nigga who realized that he
could get the things he wanted with money. So technically

(17:39):
it's us who started it. But the but the pa
papa what the perpetuation of it is on the other
end of the other end of the spectrum. He grabbed
the ball and ran with it exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think there's a movement out there from in that
believe that they deserve or should be with the men,
a man that's paying for their whole lifestyle, fucking on
the scam.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think trying to catch up.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I know sometimes when I see the problems, and I've
known a lot of people that have run with that
whole you know, I date a certain type of nigga.
I advise the niggas that's not like that not to
date her and to let let her go through what
she got to go through. Because the niggas that got
that they dated fifteen twenty diches, they don't they not

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emotionally invested.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
They know they got bread. They know you there for
the bread. They you you know, you get what you
asked for.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
You're old.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Niggas be mad at women for dating in that fashion.
But it's like, bro, she's not a good person right now,
she's you don't want to you you're mad at her
for being her and choosing what she got to go through.
She got to go through that. Trust me, it's not
going to be just a chill ride. It's gonna be bumpy. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, date people

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that's in your cash range and in your mindset and relax.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
All right, there's not enough men out there. The men
that they want out there ain't plentiful eventually.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
But also more just to throw a just to throw
a you know, a thing on it. The people that
we're seeing doing this talking all this ship on social
media blah blah blah blah blah, because that's where you're
more primary primarily seeing you at they're fucking broken niggas.
They you know, because a lot of people say shaped
on the Internet and then be completely different at home.

(19:40):
They are fucking broken niggas for free. I mean some,
but not not all. I mean you you can tell,
you can tell the ones that aren't doing it right.
So right, the internet, the Internet, none of that ship
is real. All right, let's do it more. Where am
I going with this?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Hmmm, let's do this.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
This is gonna be funny.

Speaker 12 (20:16):
And once I realized that it completely changed the dynamic
in my marriage. I was taught that if a woman
does not provide for.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Her marriage, hold on.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
So she said, men don't need sex. That's how she
started needs sex.

Speaker 12 (20:28):
And once I realized that it completely changed the dynamic
in my marriage, I was taught that if a woman
does not provide for her man sexually, then he will
go find it somewhere else. Actually, that happened to me
in a past relationship. So sex has always felt like
an obligation for me, which has created a lot of
trauma and disconnected intimacy for me. My husband has spent
years healing that part of me and assuring me that

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he only wants it when I want it, and the
only reason why he's able to do that is because
he spent years learning how to control his dick. So no,
he doesn't need sex, he just wants it. Social norms
has made lack of sexual control in men a woman's problem,
especially a marriage. But y'all not ready to have that conversation.

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That's why I love my husband because he will literally
turn me down if he knows that my head is
not in it and fellas that is the greatest turn on.
Even though my man is sexy as hell, I rarely
get turned on by the physical. I get turned on
when he does things that reminds me that I am
provided for and safe. That is what will make me

(21:31):
bust it wide open. The real man gets booty without
having to ask, while little boy is always having a
chasing beg for a nut. Now take that and apply it.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Wait, so she got wet when he said no and
still didn't fuck him.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
What do y'all think? What do y'all think about this?
I was widder. I was with her all the way
up until she was like provided for and I was like,
oh okay, because that that that's still the code words.
All right, I don't I've done it. I'm demi sexual,
so I need a bond and stuff like that to

(22:13):
move in the first place. I don't want to have
sex with somebody. If they don't want to have sex,
that's raype Like, I don't really, it's because I understand
the niggas be like, oh I need it, I got it. No, bro,
if she don't, if she's not in it, she don't
want it. Like that's that's a little like there's a
thin fucking line there, pal, and that's that's off to me.

(22:36):
I can't. I can't. I can't jive with that for real,
I cannot.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
The point that the part that stuck out to me
is the social aspect that she mentioned when she said
if there is a sexual issue in the in a marriage,
most of the time, society says that that's the part
that's the woman's fault, and I agree with that. I
agree that I think wives have the pressure of making
sure that their men, that their men, their husbands, are fulfilled,

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and if something does go wrong, it seems like the
pressure is on them, especially if they do they do
subscribe to the thought that if they don't perform well
or do it at all, that the man, the husband's
going to cheat and find it somewhere else. I think
men need to husbands need to step up and if
there is a there is a problem, figure it out

(23:26):
instead of just deciding that the that the only option
is to step out on the marriage.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
But everything else pick me stuff. Yeah, I agree with
you on that, Trev, because at the same time I don't.
I don't give a fuck man woman. They then in between,
there's no reason why you should have to worry about
your partner cheating on you just because y'all didn't have sex.
Like that's actually crazy, and it's actually crazy that that

(23:51):
is a mindset that's ingrained into you. That's insane.

Speaker 13 (23:55):
Well, we had this conversation a couple of last week,
hink about that, right right, and we was in here like, yo,
hold on, what you mean you're just not going to
fuck your nigga?

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Like I thought that that was part of marriage, that
that's a part of being in a relationship. As a
matter of fact, can't you divorce based on the fact
that somebody is not satisfying you sexually?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I think back in the day, maybe, No.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I think that that's I think that's now you could
divorce somebody off for not that's that's not even not
only in Christian, but in Muslim communities too, if you
do not satisfy your partners, that is the grounds for
divorce and for in Muslim and.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
That can't be right.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
I mean, so many people would have so many people
would have left their partners so long ago if that
was the case.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I mean, you can divorce somebody because you don't like
the way they walk.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's not yeah, I'm not happy.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
That's not what you know. You don't have to have
a reason.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
But even in her case, not even the reason she
mentioned through.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Her own traumas around sex, and I've I'm getting this
with women in general, we don't see sex in the
same realm a lot. And yes, she's been cheated on
because she didn't want to do it. So now she
got that pressure and he was like, cool, cool, we're

(25:31):
gonna work through that on his side. And probably just
to put it back on a woman, is what is
she doing on her side sexually in this realm?

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Right?

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Because it sounds like she's cool, We're like, oh, when
I want it, we ain't doing.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
It type of situation. I'm not sure if I explained
that right.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Let me just read this. Marriage is not always grounds
for the dor let me, let me read this real quick.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
In Islamic jurisprudence, the refusal of intimate relations by either
spouse for an extended period can be grounds for a divorce.
As a matter of fact, a Muslim woman told me
that that, yeah, if you don't if you don't satisfy
your partner. Now, I don't know about satisfaction.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
That don't sound like that just it throws me off though,
because I feel like that's something that's primarily going to
be coming from the man's side, Like I'm not satisfied,
we're not having sex enough, so you like, it's almost
like you're requiring your partner to fuck you. That's raping.

(26:45):
Like there's there's no way that that's not.

Speaker 14 (26:46):
Raping for extended period of time, require exactly period of
time you just so, I'm just but that's but that's
that that extended period of time.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Ship is subjective because and they cannot get plusy for
a week and be like, oh my god, what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Is going on?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Given that?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
But so forcing someone to you're forcing them to do it,
that is what's happening.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't say I don't think forced.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Because it's not saying, oh you we're having sex. We're
not having sex or whatever I'm gonna make you. No,
It's like, all right, you deciding not to have sex?
Cool this expended period of time.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't want to be in this relationship no more feeling.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Feeling that feeling that pressure to do that. See, but
that that right there creates a situation where they feel
like they're pressure to do it.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's forced.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's forced, but it's a roundabout way of doing it. Yes,
you can argue it otherwise, but it is a roundabout
way of doing that. If if it's either I fuck
you or you're going to are you're going to go
cheat on me? What do you mean? How is that
not forced?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's either I take care of the household or you
know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
It's because it's sex, it's more sensitive and I definitely
understand that. But if you just take it on the
same principles of I'm doing things in a relationship that
if I stop doing for an extended period of time,
it's going to be a detrimental relationship. And then now
you're not happy in it, declining mentally, declining mental health,

(28:33):
and now you're born in Nigeria somewhere right, but on
the same level if the other person takes sex. It's like, Yo,
this is really important to me. It's it's it's an equivalent.
It's just because it's sex and it revolves two people
to be on the same level. That's where it's like, Okay, yeah,

(28:55):
you can see that, but to me, it's around the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
It's like, you require some.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Things that require certain things, and these conversations you have
before getting married, and now while you're in married, there's
things you gotta have to work on to keep it
up or keep it you know.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Some type of equivalent. Because yes, that.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Long period of time is subjective, but that's also something
y'all can talk about, like how much is a long time?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Two months? Six months? Oh, we ain't fucking a year, like.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
You're going, bro.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Sometimes you be in a relationship and the sex dies,
especially marriage, they say, once y'all get married to sex.
Be like, I've heard this is a whole general, you
know concept when it comes to marriage that the sex
kind of dies once you get married. So I don't

(29:52):
know if it's the.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Woman, it was the man. I heard y'all say that.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Yeah, the responsibility a lot of times falls on a
woman to provide sex or you know, when that conversation
comes up, it's mostly directed towards the women, the woman
not putting out or not satisfying him. Man, But we
in a relationship, we have to figure that out. I
don't see the problem with that. I don't see And

(30:19):
Malcolm said, well, it's it's you're you're forcing them.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
What do you what is what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 15 (30:28):
Now?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Then, Malcolm, as a guy, I'm in a relationship and
I'm not having sex for three four months and I'm married,
like we're legal in.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
The monogamous relationship, we're legally bonded to each other.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
What am I supposed to do If it's that big
of a deal for you that you are going to
go cheat on your partner for that, so cause you
know you're bonded together, you're legally married and everything, and
that means something, and it's that big of a deal
that you are going to step out on your relationship
that's not the relationship you're supposed to be in. Period.
Because I think that I think that, I think that

(31:04):
I think that using that as like it, I don't
know how I'm about to say this. I think that
I don't like using that as an excuse, like if
you feel like you have to go outside of your
relationship to get with somebody or to get what you
need or what you want or whatever, and you guys
haven't discussed, there's nothing going on, Like it's just that

(31:25):
like you're off, then go go be with somebody else,
because you're you're trying to make it seem like, oh,
from your perspective, it's like, oh, you know, we love
each other, we're in a relationship, we're bonding to each other.
This means something. So we're supposed to have sex. But
where is all that when you're fucking another bitch because
you're not getting sex.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
So I think I'm saying you've got to approach a
situation to try to figure out why she doesn't want to.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, I can agree with that. I absolutely like the
discussions need to fucking happen because you're not, like what
the fuck are we friends? So like the discussions need
to fucking appen. I completely agree with you on that
for sure. But I just it's just it's weird to
me because like, like I have urges. I like I like,

(32:15):
you know, you get primeal all kinds of shit like that.
But it's like, I don't know how you're going, Like,
I can't. I can't. I'm not the nigga who's out
just fucking people. That's that's never been me my entire life,
and I've never been like that. I'm a relationship nigga.
I'm the bitch. So I can't fathom fucking somebody that

(32:37):
doesn't want to be fucked. My dick's soft.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, So like for me, it's it is about intimate intimacy.
It is about a lack of intimacy and a lack
of desire. Like Yo, you're absolutely right, Malcolm, I don't
want to.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Fuck somebody that don't want to be fucked.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
But now we're in it. That's crazy that we're in
this relationship. You do not like me in that fashion
no more for whatever reason. And that's not just a
three month break, right, we're talking about You're in a
relationship for years, and over the last five years, our
sex life has plummeted.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
We might have sex once every three months, we might
have sex ones every four months. Like bro and I
love you, Yeah, we are, you are my friend.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I fuck with you.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
We don't have real relationship issues, but our sex life
has plummeted. And I think what Dodger's saying is a
lot of times is a hormonal thing for women. A
lot of times when guys are stressed out, they get
depressed or whatever. They like walk in depression, so you
know whatever, they revert into themselves or whatever. But intimacy,

(33:52):
and so Tatiana says, by the way, intimacy is more
than actual sex.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Love bugs.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
And that's also what I'm talking about, your person not
fucking with you like they don't like it's not there.
Y'all are roommates now, right. It's that's a that's a
weird vibe. So I don't know what exactly the answer to.
That's why I was asking, y'all, what's the answer to that,
if you had those conversations, if that person just isn't

(34:19):
there like that anymore? What and y'all are mononymous, but
you still love them and everything. But yeah, sex is
a point.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I don't see how y'all can think that yesterday. I
would love some input. I would.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Would y'all rather divorce your best friend because they're not
putting that home or just let people cheat me.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
I think, like everybody said on the pen, I think
it's a it's a conversation, right, because everything, everything is
going to be cut differently depending on the situation. But
I also think we're also missing I think here, I
think we're missing a little bit of the historical context,
right because for a large amount of time, this conversation
that we're having wasn't even a conversation, you know what

(35:03):
I'm saying. Women didn't even have the right to tell
their husbands no to sex, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
So I do think that there is.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
A you know, a level of conversation going on now
for the ability to make the decision right. And I
think as men, especially as new age men, I think
we all support that right. And I think to Tyles's point, yes,
I do think that the not having sex could be detrimental,
and especially how you're yielding it, especially if there's no conversations,

(35:30):
or if there has been conversations and you feel like
it hasn't been built on. But I do think that
piece of it is the underlying thing of what's going
on here.

Speaker 8 (35:40):
Sometimes I don't even think it's about the sex.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
I think it's about just the decision to have a decision,
the ability to have a decision basically you get what
I'm saying. And I think for certain women, their husband
understanding that makes them feel more comfortable with sex, if
that makes sense to kind of get what I'm saying,
because in historical terms, and most guys like to tow

(36:04):
it's point, not that you're saying that's how, but some
guys we know, like if you're not having sex, the
worst ship is up. You know what I'm saying, You're
on the docket for some of the worst shit to happen,
getting cheated on, getting disrespected, you know what I'm saying. Like,
so it's like it's still like, yes, we're kind of
past that because we're past the point where that's where
it's legally, you know, we're illegal to do that, But

(36:26):
some of that remnants is still on that. And I
do think that that is somewhere in the mix here
as far as the ability to make that type of decision.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I mean, I mean, who somebody else want to go? Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Think we're I think we're looking at this in a
very tunneled view and because a lot of things can
be attributed to why the two people have gotten to
the point that they have gotten to. If the overall
intimacy is gone, then to me, that's a that's an
issue with the structure and the foundation of the relationship.

(37:05):
So if there's no absolutely no intimacy along with no
sexual chemistry and actual intercourse and things like that, then
you have it. You have a fundamental issue. But if
the issue is that there is intimacy and there is
an attraction but the actual act isn't happening, then to me,

(37:28):
that's just conversations. But in the end, you both people
have a decision to make. If it's too much, if
it's that important to you and the fact that it's
not you not getting it is resulting and you no
longer wanting to be in the relationship, then you have
a decision to make whether you want to be in
the relationship or not. I think it's wild to end

(37:50):
the relationship, especially if you've been married for a long time,
to end a relationship over that without trying to work
on it. But in the end, both people have a
decision to make, and I don't think either person should
be making the decision to disrespect the person that they
love just because they may not be getting something that
they feel like that they want without having conversations without
having to to, you know, decide together on how we're

(38:14):
going to move forward. I feel like if it's a
lack of intimacy, then the two of you should be
able to talk, work together, figure out what she wants,
figure out what he wants, then the two of you
can move forward. But if you do that and try
that and the intimacy is still gone and she doesn't
want to do it or he doesn't want to do it, yeah,
obviously you don't want to do something with somebody that
doesn't want to, but in the end, there still needs

(38:34):
to be a choice.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yeah. And also.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
I just want to say, if we substitute the word
sex for intimacy, then this whole conversation right, because I
think that's when you get to that point, that's what
it really is like, especially if you're you want sex
with someone you have a connection with, which means you
probably want that incident.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You want that physical intimacy, you want.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
That that feeling that not just fucking, but you know
what leads up to it, like, oh, you're rubbing up
on me, you're touching me, you're hugging on me. All
that is what I think, at least when I think
about it, is involved.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
In this conversation, right, that's it pretty much.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
So if we substitute sex for intimacy and this whole
thing doesn't change anything. And I'm assuming we're having these conversations,
but you may be at a moment where it's an impasse, right,
some one party is just not on that level.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
They going through.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
What they're going through.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You're here, you want this intimacy, right, and you figure, hey,
I still love you, I love the relationship, I love
where we're at. We can work on it. But now
it's like you're hungry. You're really hungry, like death. You
haven't eaten in sixty sixty days, and it's a cheeseburger

(39:49):
in front of you. What are you wanna do?

Speaker 6 (39:54):
You talk to another person, they say, hey, don't eat
the cheeseburger. I got one in the fridge, but you
know we got we got a lock on the fridge
so we can't open it.

Speaker 16 (40:04):
Is cheeseburgers is crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
You got some fring rice right in front of you.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like you got right there, but you can't touch that.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
We talked about you to the fridge, but I got
the fridge and it's locked.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I think my biggest issue here is that you're you're
using the like we're bonded, like you're my friend, where
this where that? And I'm not just talking about your
times are just in general, it's you're using it for
your advantage. But when it's other the other way around,
it's like you can't see that, like it's it's not
it doesn't work the other way around. I don't think

(40:51):
that you should just because you're not having sex with
your with your person, that you should go out and
cheat on them because you're hurting. So you're you're literally
gonna hurt your person just for some pussy. Right, That's
that's kind of that's not what I was best friend.
That's your best friend. So you're just fuck your best
friend just for some pussy.

Speaker 17 (41:11):
Sometimes you you never argument.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I'm just saying like if you want some like you
know what I'm saying, like let's dry hump or some
ship like that back in like back that.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Ain't it.

Speaker 7 (41:29):
But I think but sometimes that's a guy you have
to you have to help the women find a way back.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Though.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Sometimes if if it's to times play, if it goes stale,
or if it's lost and you really love the person,
then go back to zero. Go back to zero and
work your way back up. See if that works. Like,
I feel like you have to be an active participant
in the in the rebuild. You can't be like your
go over there and fix it and come back and
be the be the demon again or the gobblin like

(41:56):
that's not gonna work. Like you got to actively be
in the thing, I think in order to you to
see it progressed.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
But the person has to want to do that. Yeah,
they have to want to.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
And a lot of times I remember being in a
relationship where I was willing to do the work, but
she did not because she knew I wanted sex. The
thought of doing the work was even repulsive.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm, because it's like you understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
C It was like, you do you just for some pussy,
like like come on, like.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Like all they see is you just want to fuck
and explaining it that's all it can kind of come
off as. But really you want intimacy, you want the connection,
you want all this. But you can say, yo, we
ain't fucking Like again, they women got better vocabulary in general,
and so you know what we mean, but they don't.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
They just see fucking not everything turned off right up.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's just it's like a discuss thing And can y'all
not understand that?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Malcolm trav you you's got no track.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I'm lost, like dog saying.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
What did you left at? What did I do?

Speaker 18 (43:14):
I was like, no, no relationship, so straightforward.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That was funny.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
But you're it's it's tough for you when you're doing
the work or when she's doing the work.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
No, I said, when the person does not want to
they don't want to approach the conversations you.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
You're being patient.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
But now every time you bring it up, it gives
them an ick gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Yeah, that's where you're going wrong. That's where you're going
wrong bringing it up. I think once that's on the market,
you just never bring it back up again. I think
the problem the problem. I think going back to the
conversation we having earlier about quote manipulating people into seeing
things from a certain way. Right, you know, sex is

(44:07):
off the table she's putting to yo, it's not there
whatever whatever.

Speaker 8 (44:10):
So I feel.

Speaker 7 (44:11):
Like I said, as the guy, sometimes I feel like
you have to go back to doing the things that
got you to have the sex in the first place.
And sometimes that's not being intimate. Sometimes you got to
do the legwork. You got to go back to the
you have to go back to the basics. Sometimes you
got to go back to the game table.

Speaker 17 (44:27):
Got you well, basics not competing with other bitches.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Let's go back to.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
The day one.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
What no Well, well, first, first and foremost, I think
I think.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Not ain't letting nobody in the building, no meanings, ain't
a line outside Like.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
What you're doing?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
You really dead ass?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
You try what you think this is. I think it's crazy.
I think if it's crazy to bring it up and
then never again. Because what I want to be able
to do is recall when I do cheat on you,
that I've brought this up like ten, fifteen, twenty times.
Do you know I have this over and over again.
So what I finally do cheat on you? I want

(45:18):
you to know that this is your fault.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
But guys, you guys, you can just leave the relationship.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I tried. You just said that. I said that.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
I'm just yeah, it's way more humane to go get
some pussy and come home.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
You sound insane.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I only heard if they found out.

Speaker 11 (45:38):
I do think it's way more humane to go get
some pussy and come home.

Speaker 8 (45:44):
You don't.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
You don't leaves and still do everything, taking the kids
out and all that.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
You don't believe relationships just because you want to fuck
up it, says several women, and they all said almost
every well not all, not all right.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I don't really remember the ones that didn't agree.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
And yes, your access in the discord when we go
in discord, I'm telling you, they all said, I'd rather
you just cheat it. Come on, I don't want to
end this whole relationship over this, but I'm not doing it.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
It's really what you wanted and I'm not doing it.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
I'm out there.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Just go get something, go home, and respectfully, che don't
be none of my friends in someplace, some person that
I've been around, or some like that, just go get
it to come on.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
But you don't think that's crazy, Not not not the
guy cheating, but the fact that the woman is saying,
instead of me giving this to you, I know you
want this, but instead of me giving this to you,
I'd rather you go get it from somebody else and
come back. That's I wouldn't want my wife to tell me.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
That I'm not telling to me. That sounds like she
to me, that sounds like she don't she don't think
she deserves any better.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
No, let me.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Let's from the other point of.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I don't think. I don't think that that falls for everybody,
of course, because you know, there's different lifestyles out there,
so of course you got to take that into accountability.
But like, there are people out there who like, I'm like,
we're talking about this. I have a few friends right
now that are in the situation, and these bitches are
pathetic because it's one of those things where it's quite

(47:29):
literally like like, so I just just to throw this
out there. A friend of a friend her her husband
for ten years. I'm not gonna put all her information
out there, but they went through some serious stuff. But
her husband in ten years. Uh, this last past New
Year's he found out that he's talking to or and

(47:52):
fucking with a girl at work. He breaks up with her.
He tells her he never he like he's tired of her.
He don't even want to be friend with her, nothing
at like that wants absolutely nothing to do with her,
is still living with her, still fucking her on the daily,
and he is with this other girl. He's like taking
her places, he's talking to his his ex who he

(48:15):
lives with, about the girl he's flying her in front
of her. This nigga moved out, didn't give a fuck
about the least moved out. He got this girl's name
tattooed on his body.

Speaker 15 (48:31):
And then and then two weeks later came back to
his original bitch and she took him back. Because what
a lot.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
What I see a lot of times is people try
to take cheating and they try to put it as
like it's some sort of phase in the relationship. And
I see that a lot, So I like that, feel
like there is there is definitely a group out there
that's like, well, niggas are gonna do it anyway. So yeah,

(49:09):
I've seen that too, so I can understand.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
I can understand that. I just I feel I would
feel defeated in my mind and as well, Q are
you married with my ID? So as the only married
guy here, I can honestly say I wouldn't say that
sex and intimacy dies after a while. I've been with
Janelle for twenty years, married fourteen, but it definitely doesn't

(49:34):
think it changes. So I mean, if you think about it,
in the beginning of the relationship, you're all about one another.
You have time, you make time for one another. You're
trying to build something in the beginning, and as time
goes on, life changes, things happen, You have kids, different jobs,
different careers, as too always talks about with men, health issues,

(49:56):
things like things. Any stuff happens. So if you're getting
to a point in your relationship, if it has standard
the test of time, and the issue is is intimacy.
I think you have to have a thought processing in
your mind that once you understand that that life is
different and your partner is different, you have to continue

(50:19):
to work on it. And if you're working on it
and she or he still doesn't want to do it,
then you have to again, like I said earlier, you
have to decide, am I going to stand this relationship,
in this sexless relationship, or am I going to leave
this relationship, especially if you're but I guess my question
is if your partner is pushing back against even the conversation,

(50:43):
do you think that's fair? Does she have the right
to not give you that and tell you you can't
get it from somewhere else? She don't want to do
no work on this, no work, and she don't want
to get into work. You don't want to relate.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
That's the question that's on the table, Malcolm, you know,
and like, yo, she is not there. No, I don't
talk about it. I don't want to discuss it. I
don't want to do the work. I want to know.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
If we've got it. If we've gotten to that point,
then it's over like that. That to me, that's where
you need to start having that discussion. Yeah, because yeah,
like if you if if there's if there's nothing, we
can't talk about it, you're not gonna do it. I
can't do no, bro, the word there's nowhere for us

(51:37):
to go. There's nowhere else for us to go. So
now we need to start having conversations about go ahead
and ending this thing amicably and moving on about our
lives because we clearly want two different things and we
are not you want to allow us to come to
a a consensus about something. So now not at all?
I'm good, bro. What if she has a reason and

(52:00):
not see, But that's the thing with if she has
the reason that we're changing it from from the just
all out like no, if we're changing, we're changing that
aspect of it. Then if she has a reason, we
got we talk about it.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Put we ain't doing this, I ain't with it, it
ain't happening.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Then yeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah, but if she got,
if she got, if she got some ship going on,
we got to talk about the ship going on because
we're in it together.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Yeah, that's the real discussion on that part. But let's
take this out of a monogamy for a second. I
recently had a discussion with some of polyamorious friends and
the one has a life partner, right, and the discussion
they took about it us she used to be a

(52:45):
hard bottom, heavy spanking, blah blah blah. Right, that's really
like heavy spanking stuff like that. As time goes along,
she changes.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now she's more of a soft bottom, right, But is
the dom he he.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
She feels he needs that energy release of a hard bottom.
But they have other partners, and so she would say, oh,
I'm good on that, Go talk to your other partners
and then come back to me later.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Right.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
I think that's similar in a quote unquote monogamous relationship.
But he's supposed to be when a woman says, oh,
go out cheat and come back, because that's taking in
the fact that your partner has certain urges or needs, right,
and they need to get that off. They need to

(53:37):
get that out somehow, someway right, And this is the
way it has to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
It's the way it works.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
And so they're like, all right, cool, go out there,
do what you gotta do. Don't bring nothing back. There's
boundaries on it. Don't, like Tyao said, own friends, anybody
I know, and maybe they don't even want to know, right,
that's sometimes that happen. Go cheat, we're calling the cheating
at this point, even though it's a level of monogamy

(54:05):
at that point.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
But it's go do.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
That and then come back. And plus, who doesn't like
a break. We all need to work. We all need
a break. Let me get a fifteen minute and we
can come back and work on it harder.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
That's how some people say sage relationship.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Y'all, I need to get that, get that, get that
monkey off my back, and now we.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Can come back. And like, all right, now I got
the patience to work with you on this.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I agree, I agree with what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
But that's what I took that into account when I
said what I was talking about is that there are
people out there that live different lifestyles and people out
there that are more progressive than others and more understanding
that sex may not be tied to anything and stuff
like that may just be something that you need to
go ahead and get off, get out.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
So yeah, I agree in no situations.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
But you know, and as long as you know, everyone's aware,
the problem is a deceptive We're not nowhere.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
We you Q the conversation that you're saying to have
mm hmm. That's a hard conversation for niggas to have
with a woman. I don't know how long she can't
give you no pussy. It's very hard for you to.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Be like, yo, can I just go fuck somebody else?
I'm trying to be transparent.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
That's not it's not bro.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
They have easy conversation.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Bro, I don't think I could come up if that
was my real life. I don't know if I don't
think I can come up with the words to have
that conversation that because they.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
They have that conversation, I'm pussy.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I would just im pussy you.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I will make sure you will find out. But you're
asking me.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
And I'm not.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
I'm not that pussy. I will I will tell me personally.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
I will tell but I definitely could understand the niggas
being like, Yo, that's a whole other can of worms.
Me just coming to you saying that can fuck up
the relationship over and now you're mad at me.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
For trying to be honest even though I've been trying to.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Work on it.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
You don't want to talk about it no more. The
fact that I bring it up now and say, well,
cannot go get some other ship. Then, since you're it's
been nine months and we did have something, it's been
four months. We had sex one time, it was three
months before that. Now every time I try to bring
it up, there's an issue. You don't want to talk

(56:39):
about it, all right. Not trying to bother you, but
I want to.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Have a composition with you.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
And now that I bring it up, you've got the
itck Because I even brought it up, y'all.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I think that the women be like, yo, I just
tell me, you don't know what I would be cool with?
You don't. I'm not having that conversation. That's a trap.
I'm just off. I'm jerking it, and that's that's what
I gonna do. Seven months. I'm gonna jerk and cry
and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
The whole happy wife, happy life right.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Equation. I'm gonna keep jerking. I feel like the woman
would be like, Oh, you must just want this other person.
You don't want me anymore. That's exactly what the is
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
You don't want me.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
That's the entire conversation. And then and then the other
one that's gonna happen is when you decide to ask
that she's gonna ask you if it's okay if she
does it, yep, And then now you found out what
the issue is and now your chest hurts, Now you're
with somebody else, you're in the shower, crying, in the
fetal position.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
But honestly, that's medicine. That's the conversation that need to
be had because you found out. It's not like it
wasn't there, you just didn't know.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah. The only way I would think stepping out is
options if she says, hey, go.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Go find it, get past. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Those of y'all are in relationships or already have good
relationships or whatever it is, or have been in relationships,
have you ever.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Kept a secret from your.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Partner about something that you may feel or something that's
going on you just did not tell your partner. Were
you ever not transparent with your partner? Is the question
about about a sex topic, anything anything?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Absolutely? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Why everyone's entitled to their own secrets, their own things.
They don't have to. You don't have to if it's
not especially I it's not concerning them in a way.
Mm hmm. That part I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
It depends on how much it can serns them. I'm
not gonna lie to you. That's it's a very subjective thing.
Like if if I have something going on that I
don't feel like I gotta like involve you in, I'm
just not gonna tell you if I don't gotta tell you,
because sometimes telling people certain ship can hurt them more
than than not saying anything. And like if you actually

(59:19):
really can't listen, I don't listen. This is why the
SA niggas just cheating. No, first of all, you're not
gonna dodge this situation, all right, You're not gonna give
us on a different topic and loop in the back
around to your point so you can make your aspect.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Exactly. You try, It's it's not the same thing. Gonna
be good with knowing that I'm on somebody else. No,
that's the.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Same thing.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
That's not an equivalent exchange. It's not it's not works.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
No, No, get testing your hand.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Make sure that gets back way. You try to sleep,
you try to trying to play, You trying to play.
You're trying to play alchemy like that. You're gonna lose
a fut on right, that's not that's not how that works.
The second.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
You got it, well, I can't hear y'all. You gotta
talk one of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Y'all know we virtually my bad, my bed, the secret,
the secrets that I'm keeping or whatever I'm not telling her,
aren't relationship ending if she finds out? Yeah? No, but
very difficult to discuss. Have you ever not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Known how to have a conversation with your partner about
something that something like saying the sex or the feelings
or whatever. Why do not want to have that conversation?
If you know this person's with you, You know y'all
are in love, you know y'all in a relationship. Why
did you hold back from having that conversation?

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
But to me personally, because when I feel like, when
I express what I really think, it always creates a
bigger problem. So our problem could have been this right here.
I feel like once I express myself, the problem is
now this. So I feel like sometimes to avoid this,
I'd rather just not say anything and just keep it here.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
If I ever keep something from you, I think it's
because it's gonna hurt you for me to say it
more than it is for you to know. So wait, no,
more than it's for me to keep it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, that's self sacrificing, right there?

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Is that a good thing to do? I think in
some situations it is. Yeah, sometimes the piece is more valuable.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
When you sell sacrifice, doesn't Doesn't that create resentment or
create like because that thing is there, it's not going over?

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
If it does, then I think it needs to be
spoken up exactly then then I would I if I
if I well, I mean obviously hindsight would be twenty twenty.
But if I felt like, if I don't tell this
person this, I'm end up hating them for it after
or whatever, then though, then I'm gonna talk to you
about it. But if if I know, like, I'm not
about to tell you about this, because if I tell
you about this, you're gonna think this or that, and

(01:02:27):
it's not at all what you're gonna think that it is.
And no matter how I explain it to you, you're
still gonna think that. Yeah. Nah, I'm good off that.
I'm an overthinker and I overanalyze, so I'm not gonna
if I'm not gonna do that, I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
There are aspects of communication that people think is very
easy to do. I'm gonna sound like Trump, but you
have to you have to be able to say sometimes
you have to be able to say certain things in
a certain way for it to be received in a
way that it's deductive and progressive in the relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Sometimes it doesn't the person you're with. It just doesn't
happen like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Like people think just because you're married or even in
a long term relationship that you fit together just like
you know equally, no, even with the friends that you're
that you're with, you don't agree with at their every
thought process. And that's the same with your with your spouse.
Like you're together, but you don't always agree on every
single thing. You're always on the same page on every

(01:03:29):
single thing. So if there is something that you don't
like or something that that uh that that that he
or she is doing that you don't agree with, and
most times you think about it in your mind and
then you have the decision to make am I going
to bring this up or I'm not? And sometimes you
may decide, you know what, although this may annoy me,
although this may upset me, mentioning it, like like yes said,

(01:03:51):
mentioning it is going to create a way bigger problem
than it is by me not mentioning it. And I
can just deal with it if I'm choosing with it
and choosing not not to be or choosing to deal
with whatever emotions it brings to me. To me, now,
I have to weigh the option is this emotion too big?
Or is the fight going to be too big? And
sometimes you choose the emotion.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Do not relate that back to cheating, because it's already
not saying already.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Know what's happening already. I ain't got to say it
out loud, but you already.

Speaker 19 (01:04:22):
See the play. That's why cheating. Yeah sure, yeah, So
you can be the one, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Can be the good guy, or you can be the
guy that saved the world. I think that's the same.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree, my thing, I just
I just want to tackle something that. Yes, Boom said
it right first time, Pale that he said, you're taking
that person's autonomy away. I'm not talking about no crazy
like oh, I'm cheating on you ship. I'm not talking
about that. I'm talking about like your backshot wins smelled

(01:05:01):
crazy yesterday, but just yesterday. I don't need to tell
you that, because if I tell you that, you're gonna
think your ship smelled crazy all the time. Now, it's
gonna hurt you more than anything else. I just keep
it to myself, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Now you're gonna get no backshots at all.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Exactly. She's sub conscious now, and now you don't create
an insecurity in her for what I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Just I always anytime I had to turn back shot wind.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
All right, we've been talking about this for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Let's move on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I'm gonna break it up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
I had somewhere to go right now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
But I want to laugh for a second. I don't
even know if I want to laugh. I don't even
know if y'all gonna laugh. But I'm gonna yeah, y'all know, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
You look want to come out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Here.

Speaker 10 (01:05:59):
You don't want to come out here. There's a lot
of trance that you was like, you don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
To come out here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Are you trying to suggest something.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
I'm trying to suggest that. I'm one up. No no, no, no, no,
You're like, stand up, okay, you're gonna see nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
You just made a jump. You're not a trance.

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
My ship is fat, my fat. But I'm trans.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
It's just what it is.

Speaker 10 (01:06:22):
No search like this girl, You're not. No, I'm not
lying to you. See her, I'm warning you. Why can't
you I can see That's what I'm saying. Why can't
I just tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
That all right now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
No Diddy, but that right now?

Speaker 10 (01:06:36):
If you why you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
See that instead of is?

Speaker 10 (01:06:38):
I appreciate the gesture and I would never trick you
like that. I'm just trying to be nice.

Speaker 8 (01:06:43):
I heard her voice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I know she's not trying.

Speaker 17 (01:06:45):
You know what.

Speaker 10 (01:06:47):
You want to try to pun I'm gonnaun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I'm gonna run out do that the funk out in
a minute. It's a voice, it's not a voice changer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
She's not trans.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Like now, I'm not saying you're streaming.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
You're streaming right now.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
I'm not trying. Is either you want to buy it
or take it back.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I what where did you go to get surgery?

Speaker 10 (01:07:21):
I don't need surgery. Crew like this hormones?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
That's not tres bro that voice? Do the voice still
crush that?

Speaker 10 (01:07:34):
I know you would.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
A lot of people would, oh, bro, Like, Bro, I
still don't think my nigga all right, all right, cool?

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Cool?

Speaker 10 (01:07:41):
You don't believe I'm trans?

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
I'm like, that's not possible.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
How was that?

Speaker 10 (01:07:46):
How was it possible?

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
How was that possible? Like?

Speaker 16 (01:07:49):
I don't talk about your fee when you look like that,
but plastic surgery?

Speaker 10 (01:07:53):
Bro, This ain't plastic surgery. Baby, that's not true. Even
without the makeup up a big let me know you up,
I still.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Don't think you trans. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
You gotta show me something food like.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
I don't get nothing to show you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
That's not fake. You're real food like I am.

Speaker 10 (01:08:10):
That's what I'm saying. I'm realness in my community.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
All I'm gonna say that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
A problem with straight man.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
That's the issue. Pop up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
It's gonna be a fight.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
All I'm gonna say is it's crazy how you just
like trans women can't be beautiful. Janet Monk is fine
as fuck. So I'm I'm very confused at how that's
not like all right, but it's exactly though when she
when she popped the dick out on you, like we're

(01:08:50):
supposed to transpire from here, that was there's no pun
intended there yesterday, so stressed out, broas.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
You had your hand on your head, Yo, what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Why did was you so stressed out?

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Because first of all, she told them, well they told
them multiple times like Yo, this is what it is,
and it's like and I feel like sometimes and who
said that? I think that's the problem. That be the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
That's the problem right there, because niggas do ship like that,
which is fine, but like you said, when when it
happens in real life, then it's you know what I'm saying,
Or when other people find out, you start moving different,
you start acting different.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
But that video right there, that's the real youth dude
homie that said I'll still crush that ship.

Speaker 8 (01:09:45):
Yep, that's him, that's the real.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I don't know too many niggas and it was a
bunch of wyans.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
It was about three, right. I don't know one of
them niggas that would say that in front of his mans.
So he meant that ship. I was laughing at him
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Sure that Nigga said it for all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
You know, I don't give what they talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
He ain't giving.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
What you gonna say about straight niggas well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
That was pretty much it. It's all fun and games.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
You think she's playing and then you find out I
want to want a joke she wanted playing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Now was a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
I'm telling you the whole time, the question becomes your horn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
And thinking somebody lying, and he don't think she lying.

Speaker 8 (01:10:39):
He know exactly what that is. He just wanted to act.
He just wanted to be like, oh, what's surprised? Yeah
what that lights can think? Yeah, he is dangerous. Nigga's dangerous.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Why you said that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Because he comes across as somebody that if they was
in real life, he'd be pissed off and be violent
if he found out she wasn't playing.

Speaker 8 (01:11:01):
No, try do I think got cleaned it up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Try.

Speaker 8 (01:11:04):
He'd be pissed off when other people found out. I
think behind closed doors he'd be right with it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
As soon as the bros come downstairs and the bros
catch you off the around the corner, that's.

Speaker 8 (01:11:16):
When he's going to turn up.

Speaker 7 (01:11:17):
And that's what makes it whack to me, because it's like,
if you feel that way that you felt like in
the video, then bro, just that's cool, Like it's nothing
wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
But it's the it's the other ship that happens after the.

Speaker 8 (01:11:28):
Fact, when other people find out who's out here saying
they trans when they not right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Like who says that? Like I've ever heard anybody say
that white women? What? Were not ready to have that conversation.
We don't have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I mean we might, we might get to the point
because men are so violent, we might get to the
point that women start saying that they're trans to try to,
you know, thwart off advances.

Speaker 8 (01:11:58):
That don't stop the violence though that actually brings more violence.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Yes, I'm talking about I'm talking about them white women
that throw them pronouns out het him. They present super feminine,
they only fuck with niggas. They don't they don't do
none of that ship and and they just want to
be a part of a marginalized group of people without
actually going through the struggle. That's the fuck that I'm

(01:12:21):
talking about. Oh but I don't, we don't got we
don't got to dive into that. It's fine. The thing
presented itself, and I've been thinking about I've thought about
that ship for a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
So that that's how I wanted to wake y'all up
with that one. We only got ten fifteen minutes left
off y'all, all right, Yeah, that's what you said. The
Paces is one they won. Oh no, I ain't gonna
lie it, not with the Paces to go against Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I hate watching the Pacers play basketball. I hate watch
they play basketball.

Speaker 8 (01:12:59):
That's a good team right there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
If they're a good team, I just hate the way
they play.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
So it looks like they're going to the conference finals.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Against the Knicks. Well, not officially the next but the
next one one.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
I think the Knicks. Hopefully the Knicks bring this home.
I cannot believe it because the Knicks have not been
in the conference finals since I was twenty five years old.
I was still playing basketball when the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Was in the conference finals. Yeah that was ninety nine.
I was going to the park.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I was still you know what I mean, it was
still part of my regiment. Like I was, literally this is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
The Knicks was in the conference When the last time
the Knicks was in the conference finals, I hadn't even
started selling crack hit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Wait, Mello Mello didn't get to the conference finals.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
No, mellow will never and honestly, in the first round
he never got past Wow, he never got past the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
No. I don't know if I want to see the
paces versus nickas Man. That's been. That's one of those
lifetime rivalries. Washington five. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
Hopefull na that's that's gonna go six and seven?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Okay, should we do one more? Yeah? Okaye, just came
on you. We're here team right, that's your team.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
Okay, see right yesterday you ain't gonna make he done
too yesterday us over our phone.

Speaker 20 (01:14:36):
I'm a Lakers fan, so I can't talk. Man, I'll
play this h dirty mack and one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
As we cand I witnessed some corny ship.

Speaker 21 (01:14:50):
So my brother decided to check this young lady out,
you know, on a date, and you know they he
saw value in trying to build that relationship. He took
the young lady out in you know, everything's going good.
But unknowing to him, the young lady's friends was at
the bar recording. They was recording a date. They was,
you know, sending drinks to the table to the young

(01:15:12):
lady as if it was a man sending drinks to
the table, just really disrespecting my homie and just recording
and making jokes throughout the date. We later find that
they posted this video on TikTok, and I just want
to say that it's corny, it's childish. You know, we've grown, man,
you know, we're thirty thirty one, and you know, niggas

(01:15:32):
is really trying to be intentional. But when you do
shit like that and you're corny like that, it makes
it hard for us to take women serious. It makes
it hard, man. I mean, that's really truly corny and childish, man.
And it's one of those situations where it's like, what's
the point man, when women is doing shit like that?

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
It's corny, man.

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
So I'm asking y'all to just stop that.

Speaker 21 (01:15:56):
If that's a trend that y'all try to start, please
stop that shit, because it's it's the corny ship in
the world.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Man, It's corny. Now.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
They actually he actually put the video in of the chicks.
Y'all want to see the video, yes, very much?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
So uh here it is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
They so basically can y'all hear me?

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
So they basically.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
They showed from when they were outside. They were walking
up to the thing. They had already had drinks. They
went through the whole spot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
The spot was like three levels, so they went looking
for them and they found them, and then they sat
at the bar across from them and they started doing drinks.
And I'm gonna start the video at that point right there,
so we're gonna.

Speaker 22 (01:16:50):
Send her a drink and say, somebody, somebody, they gotta
get to a drink.

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
Somebody right now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
Yeah, and on y'all.

Speaker 22 (01:17:12):
I didn't know that the girls was there until like
after drinking, landed at the table and so boy like
girl looking around figure out host to drinks, was like, oh,
niggas think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I'm so Emusually he left.

Speaker 22 (01:17:25):
He was like it was that dude that was at
the bar, Like you can't trust nobody that flew up
to the lounge of the blaser.

Speaker 10 (01:17:31):
So he did not know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Keep the niggas on their toes, motherfucking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Toes, nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
That was the limit.

Speaker 8 (01:17:39):
That was the lambit ship I ever seen. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna hold you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
You should have seen that ship coming to man Alloway,
hell everywhere every way that these women, those women presented
themselves in that video. That is like who they are
and that's how they act. You ain't see that, you ain't.
You ain't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
They're like doing funny shit. You saw you saw you
saw them and was like, mm, yeah, I think I
want that and be intentional.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
I think those are younger girls. At my age, I
will look at them as young girls. So they looked
at me about twenty three.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
I thought they said thirty morey thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
Oh he said we liked that. He said, like, he said,
we like thirty thirty one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So the women they probably are younger. They look younger.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Yeah, they came off to me, to college.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
They playing games.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
She radiated, corny, Yo, what what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Because at first I thought her friends was hating on her.
I thought her friends felt some type of entitled I didn't.
I never saw the ending part.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
I felt her friends had some type of entitlement towards her.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
They didn't respect her like that the type two block
and blessings, you know, just hating ship.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
But she was the one at the end like yeah,
he didn't know. And now I'm like, what the truth
was that I thought?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
And I thought maybe it could have been like uh,
let's see how he gets if he gets angry, So
y'all are there, send a drink, let me see how
he reacts to see the type of guy he is
in this type of situation. But it seemed like they
were just all about the jokes and like like they

(01:19:29):
just was there for the clown show. So I'm thinking
if they're just testing them, even though that's a corny
way to do it, I can almost understand in today's day,
in today's age, of using that to do it, but
just to play around with the guy and not take
him serious and joke and joke around you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
It's corny. Earlier, Michael I said, and that and that
wraps us around back all the way around to that's
why you gotta find out everything about your bitch with
sheet out in the middle of the night and with
friends she's hanging out with, because sometimes bitches be gullible. Sorry,

(01:20:12):
you know you can go yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:20:14):
Yeah no, I'm just saying this. It just brings us.
It just brings us back to the sit that we
were talking about earlier, of people moving like you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:20:21):
And I feel like to the point that we said earlier,
like even if that was a guy that was good
for her. He was a good man that actually could
have worked. How does that now look on you know
what I'm saying, his first impression? You know what I'm saying.
And I think it's a corny way to test somebody,
because as men, we know that if we're outside with

(01:20:43):
the women that we like and everything looks good and
then there's another male something in the mix, we're always
going to be alert. We're going to be on guard,
you know what I'm saying, And especially the woman is watching,
the crowd is watching, so it's a whole thing for us.
So I think that's not you can't test somebody in
that type of way to like, you know what I'm saying,

(01:21:03):
Like what what?

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Like?

Speaker 8 (01:21:04):
You know what I'm saying, Like what what are you
trying to get out of that? Especially when it's the
first date? Yeah, first day? I thought, how you tend
somebody on the first dates?

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Dat? It was a good test? Was it corny? Of course?
But is it a good test?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Like oh, if somebody else, if another man, somebody else
showed that disrespect, how you're going to react in the
moment you on a date? You don't know, like like
as a as a man in a situation will be like.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I'm like, what's going on? Because it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:21:40):
The way I think I would see It is not
even just somebody thought you were beautiful and decide to
buy you a drink they see me out together. This
is a whole nother disrespect thing, like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Like, what's this?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
What do you think most women want them? Do you
think most women want that guy to go off? Or
you think most women want that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
To not go on?

Speaker 6 (01:22:05):
I think most of women will want the guy to
be smooth about it, to address it in a way,
but not go off like the emotional about it, be
angry or be like, oh he said you drink all right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Cool, say say what's up to buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
But being in a situation, most guys were like, fuck,
we're in the feeling of being disrespected in those moments
versus how to handle it in a cool way.

Speaker 8 (01:22:32):
And it's and it's a phantom thing.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
So it's like you're mad about some ship that you're
just not you're never gonna be with identify, so now
you just walk around the ship like like, who are
now picking niggas out? You got you mad at a
nigga and the blazer. He just came with a blazer
for the night. You may you mad at him for
no reason. It's like you think that's a good test yesterday.
I don't agree with that. No, that was cute that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
I say, tea. How a guy acts right now?

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
Is it a productive?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
It's very dark, very like put you on spot.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
But I know some people that can flip out in
those moments and like, oh, yeah, you dodged the bullet
with that one.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
I ain't gonna lie, bro, don't send yo. Can y'all
imagine if you're at a table with your chick and
a nigga send her a drink?

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
How do you even deal with that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
How would y'all deal with that?

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
You you're at the dinner table with your chick first
date or not, or your girl, whatever it is, and
the nigga send.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Her a drink?

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
What do you get him to send another one? Yeah,
that's the only That's the only way I'm going about it, right,
What else he gonna do? Because she's here with me,
she's not here with him. So if you want to
send us a drink, cool, thank you sending another one?

(01:24:00):
A lot of growing up to smile like that? Nigga,
what would you do right?

Speaker 8 (01:24:06):
Ice growl ice, grow the whole establishment.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
To hold with me? What eighty nine people in the people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Checking everybody checking everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Yeah, you found out who was a waitress? He trying
to get the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yo, she drank it? Huh would you be mad if
she drank the drink?

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Answer?

Speaker 23 (01:24:39):
He's answered this question before, told I'll be right back,
violent ship.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
I'm telling her to small way and get one more.

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
He's gonna be his or she's gonna be drinking that cosmopolicy.
I'm kind of on Q side. I mean, yeah, is
it test corny? Yeah, it's super super duper corny. But
but sometimes you don't really know how a man is
going to react to situations like that until the situation happens.

(01:25:14):
And do you want to be with a nigga that
that in a situation like this next thing? You know,
he's fighting everybody in the bar drink Like, do you
want to be with a guy like that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Nah?

Speaker 8 (01:25:28):
Hold on too, but also too, I don't know if
First of all, so you're you're testing me because you're
trying to get me conditions. So what every time I
go out with you, a gonna just be sending you
a drink at every time, I say, every time I
sit down for my fucking spring rolls, I gotta worry
about it fucking being coming to the out this time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Like that's manipulation. She's got a cheat on you.

Speaker 8 (01:25:53):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:25:54):
It's like, it's like earlier, get comfortable with the fact
that should just be happening. She gas like, you just
be happening and you're not gonna know where it's coming from.
But something you gotta I just want to see you
see at cool in the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Does it change for the friends. Let's say let's say
she had the friends show up just for safety. Hey,
this is my first this is my first day with
this guy. That can y'all come at the bar. But
then the friends on their own decided we're gonna send
a drink just to see what he does. Does that
change how we feel about the girl?

Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
No changes with the TikTok video, because the girl was
all in with it. Now the girls showed like, oh
those are my friends and that that and you know
it's still a friends. But she was all with them
on their side, laughing at him like oh he was
looking at the Nigga in the Blazer. So that's like,

(01:26:49):
that's one of those instances you do a test and
you lost me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
But also this is this is our first date.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
I don't know you, so I'm gonna see your friend
be corny like that. And you're corny too because you
the test. That test was a test on your character too,
right games with me? You don't even know me like
that to play those, that's weird behavior. I'm not even
mad at you for doing it, but I definitely am
judging you for doing it. That's corty and should You're

(01:27:19):
not even a real person no more.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
I'm still gonna beat, still gonna be all right, I'm
not period.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Well, I.

Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
Mean, you don't deserve it after something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
Yeah, well yesterday you the type of work, all right,
I'm not I'm just saying, y'all know right now, I
agree with y'all. I would ice grew everybody in the
established No, I don't think so. I don't think I would.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
But you can't drink the drink you drinking. I don't
take a little sip, drink a little of it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
I'm drinking the drink. So if you drink them to
the table, I'm drinking the drink. I'm drinking the drink,
and I'm buying her what I'm buying you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
You're your own drink. I'm drinking this one. That nigga
just brought me a drink. He's not buying you a drink. No, No,
let you we can share it. Try to get another one,
because that drink was like twenty bucks. Like so, I like,
you know what I'm saying. If you want to take
a little sip, take a little sip. We can share
it together. You know, we'll toast you. No, I promise you.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
I don't know what the women in here are thinking.
I wouldn't want a woman that wants to drink that
niggas drink in front of my face. No, yes, disrespective,
I'll drink the drink and I'll get you another drink.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
That might be a way to pass the test and
be like, oh let me get that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
No, she would most like they would pass it. Yeah,
you know you can have that, And I'm like, I
wish you want and I'll get you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
That's how that goes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
But you sit there and just take the nigga drink
and start sipping it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
What that's not crazy? I was thinking about it when
I went to the back bite the little pineapple.

Speaker 24 (01:29:14):
Trying to have a conversation with you, to fine apple
the strawberry in the mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Right, get one of these?

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
Is crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Let me thinking first, y'all y'all are yeah, yeah right,
Let me test it right exactly because that nigga slipped
something in it. But we was having this conversation the
other day and you and your person are out somewhere

(01:29:51):
and the guy comes over and tells you, hey, no disrespect.
Your chicken is bad? Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
How do you react to that?

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
How is that followed up? Because hey, off, I know
she's bad.

Speaker 8 (01:30:18):
Can I beat the nigga up?

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
No? He cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
You know I'm asking.

Speaker 8 (01:30:24):
I'm saying, like, but cannot beat him up?

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (01:30:27):
Is that part of the equation? Like if you come
up and say this, do I got him immediately?

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
Like?

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
Do I got him?

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
No question?

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
That's that's the real question here.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Try to beat him up at the very least, do
I have a win? Or like is it now he
can knock you out? I feel like the only time
I could do that is if he could knock you out.
I was the only welcome to you and he knocked
me out, then thank you. Oh yeah, I appreciate it,

(01:30:59):
bro brow, Like I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Said, wait, like I told you lady this, Yeah, you
just told.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
You heard it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
So I'm gonna initially say no, no, no, hold up.
Initially I'm gonna say thank you. Then depending on what
he follow up with, then I'm gonna have to devise
a plan to devise a plan after that, right, because
I might only got a few hits in, right, but
I gotta make it look good because I'm probably going out,

(01:31:33):
So I gotta I gotta sell this to the I
gotta give my bang from my bucket, you know what
I mean? Is it better to take the l or
is it or to not fight? You lost your chick,
take the l I think if you don't. If you
don't take the l remember to hold a couple of
piles ago your lady. There's there's chances that your lady

(01:31:54):
can walk out of here with him. So I'm gonna
at least go down, at least gonna be like, damn,
not a nigga got knocked out to get the sympathy like, nah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
I can't. It's and if the nigga walks up to
you and says no disrespect, which is disrespectful in the
first just it's gonna follow disrespect your your girl's bad.
First of all, what you can't use none of the
fucking words to describe my bitch is beauty. Your girl

(01:32:22):
is bad. And then you throw a punch, and then
that nigga proceeds to beat your ass. It's over. It's over.
It's over on several levels. That relationship is done. If
you are going to take the initiative to fight this nigga,
you have to punch him in the throat as hard
and as fast as you can. Is that nigga can

(01:32:45):
beat your ass? You you putch your niggaa throat is done?
You put your throat? Are you punching in a bread basket?
He's off ball. That's the only way.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Any way to get through this without being violent.

Speaker 8 (01:33:02):
Yeah, Yet.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
If he walks away, you can just say thank you,
appreciate it, appreciated, victor.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
You know, like I told you, I like q yo Q.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Tell a nigga you want to hang out with that nigga,
knock a nigga out and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
Not he looked like he will, and that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
You got to make the attempt. That's important.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
What if he says, your your bitch is hit, No
you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
That's got then yeah, I will steal on anybody. I'm
stealing on anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
You're not gonna you're not disrespecting my chicken like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
I don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:33:52):
Like pulled you in and said in it, like bro, yo, yo,
that's a really good point. That's your tower. I said
this the other day to somebody. I was like, Yo,
men are the only people right. Men are the only
people where fighting one hundred niggas is on the doctor
at some point, like it's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Never it's it's yo.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
That's not on the doctor for any other species, but
fighting one hundred niggas that is seemingly in the cards
sometimes you feel me. So it's like that's a perfect example.
A niggas say that to you. Now you crashing next
thing you now you fighting niggas and you can't even
explain it like oh, like this happened or I had

(01:34:35):
a beef over here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
It's like, Yo, a nigga says something to me that
was so crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:34:40):
I'm fighting a hundred niggas to somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
I got to present this to the to my.

Speaker 8 (01:34:45):
People, like yo, yeah, it a hundred niggas.

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Wait, how.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
You have to be telling anothernger that is woman is here?
You know the type of what.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
One hundred drunk you matter?

Speaker 7 (01:35:07):
Guess what if your yes, no, no, I was gonna
say and if you don't fight now you put what
your girl think. Now a nigga walked up to you,
told I was hitting you, Just let him say this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
Ship because she would want to fight him.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
That's another thing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
She won't try to fight him, trying to hold the
bat you want to knocked out and.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
If that, if that niggas winning the fight, I'm yelling
to her. He said, you was hit.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
You're crashing out? Told you're crashing out to fold because
if a nigga looks at your girl and has the
like the urge to tell you that your bitch is
it you on some degree that you so now you

(01:36:10):
gotta crash out twice because nigga, how you and I know.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
She got a question came up, but I changed it
a little bit, and I want to know if y'all
know if it changes right when we When I initially
asked this, I said, and nigga comes up to you,
he says, yo, no, no disrespect it girls back.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Does it change if it's a white boy, I might
fight that nigga more for real, because I for sure no,
I'm more disrespected.

Speaker 17 (01:36:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Everybody's know some ship in the bar man.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
I for sure no, I don't got it. I got
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
The problem problem is I be in like swinger places,
so that's me normal.

Speaker 8 (01:37:08):
It depends on what kind of white dude too.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Dude, we ain't talking about Jersey sure, I ain't talking
about those dudes. I ain't talking about Guido dudes that
be looking like they love bar fights and ship like that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Of course, because if he come up to you like that,
he wants to fight. Yeah, Gweedo comes up to.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
You, he wearing all white, he got the white bends
out said, no, he wants to fight, That's why he's
talking to wants to fight.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
But I feel like the typical white dude that's gonna
come up to you and say that ship is trying
to be funny, like he's one of those niggas. I
don't think that's going to be a nigga that can fight.
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with him telling another
man they.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
Don't have bound like that exactly. They don't have boundaries
like that. They might be like yo, man, like great job, Yo,
she's bad as fuck. Well, no, if he approaches me
like that, I don't mind not not gonna lie to
you because he don't. I don't feel like he means
any disrespect by that for real.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
So you gotta do about smile. You just can't. Stone
cold is bad.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Yeah, he pulled me aside and he's like he's off
friendly and ship and like, you know, I can be
like I kind of see when you thank you. I
appreciate that, but you know the way you said it
the first time, that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
No, the women that I had this conversation with, we
were they were wondering, or I think it was a
guy in the conversation. He was like, well, why do
y'all feel the need to get violent immediately? Like why
is it that deep? Like, Okay, the motherfucker, it's worth
going through all of that. Your motherfucker said something. It
might be out of pocket or whatever. He might be complimenting,

(01:38:42):
he might be trying to respect it. Why you gotta
go that hard.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
Because you're gonna lose your bitch, And you know, it's
crazy it's not even that for me. I think that
in life, niggas have to hold back so much that
when you really give him a fucking read and to
do it, they're gonna do it. Yeah. I see that,
and I really think that's gonna be about sometimes. So

(01:39:11):
that wouldn't be my first reaction.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
But you're also married, and you know you're what you
don't You're not gonna lose your wife. Yeah, you're not
thinking about it like that. It's not you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
But she's just gonna walk away, y'all in it. This
is a first couple of dates. You know you really
like her. You y'all ain't said like that yet.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
But but I also know me and I know I'm
probably losing nine out of ten fights.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
So my monologue wanting to fight, it's about the attempting.
She come at you with, Oh you ain't. You ain't
say no, you ain't do nothing, you ain't try no.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
No. I think I think losing the fight is way
worse than not fighting.

Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
Really, you could win from a point of view, we
definitely feel that way. But from if he tried, I
think that that counts with something.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
I feel like you could win, do you have to
accept every fight.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Yeah, no, no, no, I don't think so. I don't
think then that comes from a sense of space of insecurity.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
Malcolm, you ain't got I gotta bro I've led a
lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Ship slide, especially since I went to jail and whatever
else happened.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
I ain't accepting every challenge on that level, Like for what,
I ain't got.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
That much no more? Wait? How wait? Wait?

Speaker 17 (01:40:35):
What did I say that made that seem like he
was bad? Or if Q said it was like it
basically is like yo, you pussy or or you go
to that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
Yeah, that wasn't that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
I'm like, yo, if she leaves just because I didn't
want to fight a nigga because he said that, like yo,
I might look at him like y'all said, I might
give eighty nine screw facing.

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
But I think that's the that's the mentality, right at
least what I think, and it probably does definitely comes
from a place in security. But in your case, Styhole,
you willing to fight? Your lady know you're willing to fight.
This is a woman you probably you know, just getting
to know. She don't know if you willing to fight
or not. She ain't seen you in the fight yet
she don't know if you can. So now you you

(01:41:25):
your head be like, oh but.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
I'm not gonna lie though. I'm not gonna lie though
for the most part what I've seen nine times out
of tea and the girl don't want you to fight
anyways exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Which is why you gotta make the attempt to look.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Like you No no, no, no no, they don't want
you to do that at all. Get mad at you
if you try to fight somebody, don't really from.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Your own emotions too, Like all that protecting provide ship, right,
That means you ain't gotta.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
You with her.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
You ain't off in a bar fight over some.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Dumb ship and she's now in danger because he got
one hundred niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
You feel me like we got to I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Think black men, especially straight black men.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
I don't know if a straight black man because I
only live as a gay black man. I don't know
if a straight black men alone because I don't live as.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
A gay black man. I don't know if not got
a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
You got this, we gotta really, we really got this
aggression thing, like.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
We might just have to fight one hundred niggas any
day to week, any day to week, Like yester, they
said that ship is.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
On the table, death is always on the table, and
it's like, bro, that's my culture, not real life. Though,
no it is not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
That's just if it is, then we got to get
that ship up.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
We've been here way too long, y'all. Niggas got work
in the morning. I got work in the morning. Let's
start the question through this shit again soon. I really
enjoy y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
One question, did y'all talk about you niggas versus the Gorilla?

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
Oh? My god, we have to bro, Bro, I hate
how stupid people are. Do we do we talk about
that another time? Or do we talk about that now?
Let's do it another time. I spent three hours. It's work.
It's never gonna work. Y'all really want to do a
hundred niggas versus Grilla dumas the dump? Yes? Yes, bare handed?

(01:43:30):
Not only is it bare handed, everybody knows that they're fighting.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yo.

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
I'm gonna put all of you guys socials. Malcolm always
has great thoughts he puts on his pages. I think
he tweets something that he posts them on his Instagram.
So Malcolm always has that travel.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
He doesn't post much but his kids in Q. I
never seen you before day in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
But if you do talk to what you can find
us in the discord. It's so shame with think we
will send it to you. Cute. I actually really enjoyed you, bro.

Speaker 17 (01:44:08):
You might as well come over there to the hardest
off and talk to us over there, since you're in
the lifestyle so much.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
And Yesterday is I guarantee you he's watching the okayc game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
This is what this nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
I knew when the shit came on when he changed
the headphones. I said, this is watching the basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Serious.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
Thank y'all so much.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
We won't be.

Speaker 5 (01:44:30):
Dropping the episode this Like I said, this episode is
for this week and next week. I'm gonna see if
Yesterday wants to do something else next week. Maybe he
can host the show with you guys again or with
the ladies.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
See how that goes.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
I don't know, it's up to him if he wants
to do it, but if not, we'll see, y'all win.
Miss Dodgah Bell becomes Miss Doga something else.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait throw eighteen hundred pounds a look, are you prep
sociated all right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
So she

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