I'm Sorry But...Its Not my Fault

Welcome Back To Another Week of So Shameless!!

This week Tahoe "apologizes" to Daj after not showing up to her birthday celebration and that doesnt go quite as planned, the coldplay concert cheating scandal, cheating in the open vs cheating amongst friends and family, being a vulnerable narcissist and weaponizing your trauma, and Drake Vs America. ENJOY!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you know
what I'm saying, somous, so shameless, so so so shameless,

(00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
So shameless, if you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Saying so shameless, if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I just want to say, I think we're back. We
already recording, right, sir. Right, It's gonna be a short
episode today, y'all, basically just a part one. I'm not
sure if we're gonna do something virtual next week. Trauma
show up at eleven thirty two. That's good. That's good time.
That's good time. Looked like he was running. But I

(01:06):
want to say, if you're here right now tuning the Patreon,
we have a Patreon exclusive that we will be releasing
this week because I got something I need to talk
to you all about. You know what I'm saying, Hey,
why are you look at me like that?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
What do you have to talk to people about on Patreon?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
A situation that I went through that I don't want
to do on you know, the full joint. I can
make sure you straight give me something trump.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I wasn't running, but I matter breath from the steps
and from walking briskly.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh shut, that's good. That's good. That's good. I'm glad
that we're here. Hey Dods, how you doing? But was
on strike?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I am, but I I'm being very strategic about what
my strike is going to.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Be on strike all last month. Give it a whole
month off.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You gave me the month off.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yes, you gave gave you the month off. You don't
have to come to work. Me telling you you don't
have to come to work. It's me giving you the
What do you think this is?

Speaker 5 (02:12):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
What do you think this is? Please tell me what
this is? Because I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I got you gonna be confused.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
You weren't be for birthday? Got your little bee glasses on?
I sent him in birthat there. She was coming in
here trying to prove a point. So she went all
around telling people all issue. Seen you post a ship
in the discord.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Uh huh, nasty, it's kind of nasty.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Then you follow up with the sending us to popcorn thing. Hey, hey, you,
I'm I'm gonna embarrass you. I'm gonna call you out,
and then I'm gonna guilt trip you with my daughter's
popcorn thing. Guilt trip everybody you post in the thing.
The screenshot of the leaderboard already told you all the
Double Goods popcorn ships. That's that's foul, bro. You're putting

(03:03):
these kids against each other, thereby putting families against each
other because nobody wants to just not be there. Yo.
Imagine you got a close family. They you see your
niece is in third, fourth place and you don't contribute
that that would cause issues in the family. Double Goods
is foul for that.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You don't think they're that No, because I think that
competition is healthy for children. I think I think that
competition is healthy and it's for a good cause. It's
for we're raising money for scholarships for children in Newark.
So that alone is enough. And there is a ranking,

(03:47):
so one, two and three we get something. Also, there's
like a what.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
You'll get because because I didn't know, because did I
get a piece of the prize?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well no, there wasn't something shareable. It was a spotting.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
For you know what I'm saying. Kicked back. It was
I had all this pressure on me.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The first place I think was a SPA day. I
think second place is like a week off of tuition.
In third place is like half off of tuition because
we paid tuition every Monday for them to go to camp.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
So I have a question who gets the spa day?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Like?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Who did not?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I got the spot? I went to the spot.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Why did you get this fatday? Did that work?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean me and Drew, like we planned it to
go together, but the day that I really needed to go,
it couldn't have been about it. It had to be
about me that day.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Why is about you?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Because I needed it?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
After stressing everybody out in your life about this popcorn.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I didn't even go to the spot for like eight months.
I just went like a few months ago.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
That has nothing to do with that. Actually, why did
you need to go to the spot after putting everybody
else under pressure to buy your Who.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Felt pressure you felt?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I definitely thought I was the one that literally made
it win at the last minute. I'm not saying that
I'm the only one to contribute because thousands of dollars
was putting to this last time we made over three grand?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Was it something like it?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
But at the last minute, last time.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You put like an extra two fifty end and.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You went to the spot. Yeah, what the fuck? I'm
the parent, uh son, we got them. We're gonna talk
about what we're gonna talk about. We're gonna talk about that.
You should have went to the spot. Yes, I was
the one most stress. I was the one post on
the socials.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I didn't post on socials, not as much as me.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Nigga, are you are you dead ass? Are you dead ass?

Speaker 7 (05:38):
It's the stoic look today. She no, Well who today were?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That that's bullshit today? Yeah, today doing whole stories. I'm
getting everybody amped up. I'm on the garbage truck, garbage
bag in one hand, phone any other countdown seconds And
then you went to the spot.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I did.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's peace. That's peace, that's peace.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
What kind of day we want to have today, y'all?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's what you're doing. I's see what's going on yo? Women?

Speaker 7 (06:18):
Bro I asked in a group chat, I said I
don't eat popcorn, but I said I would contribute.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Nobody said anything.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I did I believe. I responded that you can contribute
without eating a popcorn.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Nah, that was a phantom message.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Then you said nothing you thought it just like no,
I'm not being petty today.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, no, no, no, no, no, how you listen, how are
you gonna be petty on this? No, she's about to
say that we didn't tell her that we wasn't going.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
To her birthday party. And listen, she's about I know
that in salute. But you said that Parker need to
win something right? You put it in the chat. I said, Yo,
big dog, how can I get down? I'm trying to
get down.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
But you could have just looked it was right there?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yo? What you doing? What are you doing right now?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm just saying what kind of day I want to have?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm trying. I'm telling you to tell I'm gonna want
to what's up?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
You want one?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Be on it? Stand on it, sit on it?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Easy? You feel a way? So can we do? Can
we just do this against something? Yeah? Can we get
this out? The first of all, I want to say,
I'm sorry, I ain't coming.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Do we need popcorn for this? Because I feel like
I should have bought popcorn.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
My popcorn last year. You ain't popcorn is here either?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
You ain't buying no popcorn? We got them what you're
looking for? I'm gonna go check right now? Why not
what we're recording?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know, two things can happen at the same things
can happen at the same Last year, you you contributed
to the popcorn thing last year?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Actually, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Don't worry, we'll find.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
My God, how you actually pulling the most funny out
of everybody? Don't you know you're the richest person in.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
This room and it's a lot of cab I see job,
I had no job. One more, No, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
That was last year.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I could see last year. Last year.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
How many times did I contribute last year to not
go to the spy? There's one.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Because you started changing your name at the end talking
about the North remembers and ship.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah one. Yeah, keep counting. I may have contributed under
a different name three times, three times last year that
I think. Okay, I see what's going on. That might
be the move. I didn't want to say, I'm seriously,
seriously sorry I didn't come to your birthday party? Are
you absolutely?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Why are you sorry?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because you take your birthday seriously? I damn it begged
to being food when you do things, okay, And I
didn't want you to feel like I didn't want to come.
I didn't want you to feel like like, damn, this
nigga just dubbed my ship. I didn't want you to
feel that with. So I'm sorry for making you feel
that with.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But my birthday was eight days ago. So why are
you waiting to today to say this because you went.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Through this whole thing. Why did you still find in
a way, why you still trying to find a way
to make me guilty? Like I'm really apologies.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
That, Like if you really meant your apology, it would
have came eight days ago or maybe seven days ago.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I said something, I said something, but you was attacking.
I can't back me to a corner and just expect
me to like cower from you, like oh it was like, yeah,
I'm bad. I couldn't make it.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
And then you threw today under the bus like it
was her fault.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I told you it was her fault.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It wasn't her fault because we spoke about today the
day before and we already said that that was not
going to be an issue.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You can't tell me it was going to be issue
with my relationship.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You told me it wasn't going to be an issue.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You said you something I can't tell me, what's going
to be an issue in my relationship? What's not it
could be an issue in my relationship. I can't I
can't listen, so to the people that's listening right today
took her daughters to an amusement park the day of right.
She knew this was coming, so she put into the

(10:17):
RSVP list. Hey, I'm going here, but if he comes
and picks me up after from my house supposed to
get back, I can make it to the second portion,
thereby telling me, oh, you can't go to the first one.
You can't go to the first portion, which, by the way,
became way too stressful to go to anywhere. This girl

(10:40):
wants presentation. How do the presentations go?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
They went actually amazing.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Everybody showed up with a zip drive.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
No cause niggas. But that's what she was expecting. That
was the expectation.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
But you wanted people to show up with a zip drive?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
What I the fuck is a zip drive? What is
a zip drive? You fucking dinosaur? What is a zip drive?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't know. Tell me how is he supposed to
carry niggas saying they have their own laptop? What was
he supposed to do? I don't know. I'm confused. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Tell me here looks nice. By the way, these.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Are the same braids I have for the last three weeks,
but I can't still be nice. Thank you, appreciate you
for all of your unwavering support.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
M h this is gonna be a fun part.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
No, y'all hurt my feelings. And that's what I said,
and it is what it is, and I'm over it now.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
But you know, why are you feeling hurt when you
know my situation?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
What is your situation?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Are like, what's the situation? And about you? It's about
yesterday too?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, yesterday has an alibi? How was he getting there?
He was supposed to go with me?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
How the fuck do I get here every week?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So you expect?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
How do I get here every week?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Let me just speak, so let me finish, yes, hold
before you go, let me just explain to the audience,
who has no idea what's going on? Right? Very interesting,
but there's more to it that what you gotta be
all at.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
But why is it more to it? And if there
is more to it, why am I finding out about
it eight days later? Now that we're on the pod,
Like you.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Said you was going on strike. You wasn't answering. I
called your phone. You didn't answer, Like there's a lot
going on that you try. You called me back two
days later, No, I didn't. And then I called you
back and you ain't answer. So you know, when somebody
you know you don't want to talk to somebody, but
you know you're not call them, so you called. And
when they don't answer, that shit, shit like I tried.

(12:34):
She gave me one of those. I called her back
at the end of the day. Is I ain't want
to go without my girl. I don't want to go
without a girl. Is that bad? I don't really feel
comfortable on social spaces without a grounding. She's my grounding. Okay,

(12:56):
I'm around a lot of your friends. They all gotta
bond y'all all with the school, or y'all all got something,
y'all work together, you got your Yeah, everybody has a thing.
And I'm just standing there, fifty years old amongst a
bunch of thirty three year olds. Weird. I feel weird.
Respect I feel weird even in that, even if it's
not in that situation, in any situation. But I'm not

(13:19):
a really social people expect me to be way social, like, oh,
you got these pods? And then everybody wants to talk
about podcasting every time I go somewhere, I mean needed
somebody to turn my back to I'm talking to my
girl so they can't bother me. Okay, is that crazy
they do that to you? Does everybody ask you about
potting when you go out?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, because I set my boundaries very seriously and people
know better.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't talk about it at work. I don't talk
about it in social spaces, like especially if you was
my friend before this, why are we talking about this?
There's so many other things we could discuss.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I feel like people make up reasons to talk about
it that don't know you like that, and I will
pause that you haven't seen in a while. I'll be like, huhuh,
I've seen you. I see you every time on Instagram,
I see you on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I always say it's not me and so I have
a doppel ganger, so it doesn't matter. It's no pod
in conversation, But.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
How do you feel about that? Me saying that that
was the last? Feel that was the last? That was
so basically I told Dosh yo, dub, I'm not picking
her up, bro, trying to manipulate me, like the whole
fact that she put into through rs VP. Lift does that, Bro?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
You can't see it anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
No Ice greenshots does this? Nutship my fiance? Where is
it that brought tickets to the for the girls to
in the rs VP? You know you gotta write a
little message she put maybe brought tickets for the girls
to Dorney Park a while ago. If he picks me up,
I'll be able to go to the lounge. Why you're

(14:56):
doing all that? You got a number? Why you're doing
all that in it's where everybody can see. It's just
putting me at the pressure.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
But then we spoke and you said that you wasn't
gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I said, fuck her, I said, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And then it's like seven o'clock and I'm looking at
all my friends' locations and I'm just like, huh, somebody's
still home. And it's so crazy because Will was at
his mama house down the block.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
So I watched Will.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Tolson and Tully come on this very block and make
their way to my house and your location never moved.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
That's crazy. They ain't hit me up.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Your location, never moved. Yes, Malcolm, he did a no call,
no show him in yesterday, did a no call, no
show on my birthday. And you know, not only would
my feelings hurt, but I do. I tend to sometimes
feel very undervalued and appreciated. I tend to feel very

(15:56):
undervalued and appreciated and disrespected when I'm talking and people
cut me off about bullshit, because you know, I come
here every week, y'all. I come here every week. I'm
a girl. I can't just throw on stop talking. I
can't just throw on a T shirt and a hat
and come here like. It takes a lot. It takes

(16:17):
a process, because I understand when putting clips out on
the internet, I gotta look a certain way. I have
to be a certain way. And you know, I make
it and I'm here and I'm present and I laugh
and I joke and I ha ha and I key king,
and you know it might seem like I asked for
a lot, but I don't. Most of the time, I
just be joking. But like, my friends pulled a no cold,

(16:40):
no show on my birthday and they tried to gaslight
me afterwards. And now we're sitting here, what do they do.
You're still talking?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
How do they? Why are you coming out of my
mouth that's talking?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
How did they gaslight you?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You gaslighted me because you made it seem like it
was today's fault that you didn't come, when we already
discussed previously that you were not going to do it
that way. You said that you were gonna come anyway.
So that was your gas light. And in the day
of you said absolutely nothing to me, and then the
day after you said nothing until I said I was
on strike. And now it's like, oh no, it's not

(17:17):
my fault. Yesterday said absolutely nothing at all, absolutely nothing
at all, because apparently it's so difficult to get to
Jersey from Brooklyn if you don't drive. But somehow I
make it here every week, and most of the time,
I make it here on time every week. So when
I say I'm on strike, when I say that I'm

(17:37):
on strike, I am on strike because I come here
and I give a certain energy. So now y'all got
the energy. I'm just gonna be here. I'm gonna be
here like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Everybody is here.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, I'm just I'm cousins.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
She's right. That was foul. That was foul. I haven't
said anything. It's whole time. Can I say, you just
say anything? Since last week you didn't say anything, left
me out there to dry. I'm sitting here trying to
explain you ain't saying shit.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Okay, So this is what I will say. I'm gonna
keep it real short and concise. The first thing that
I want to say is Dodger one hundred percent correct.
I should have at least text you and let you
know that I wasn't gonna be able to come.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
So I apologize for that, right.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
I don't want to move the needle or for me
duck any accountability, So that's on me. I'm not gonna
blame Tahoe whatever happened with that. I should have still
hit you up myself and told you I wasn't able
to come, So that's on me, right. Second part, everything
that you're saying about Tahoe avoiding the situation, just to

(18:38):
be honest, that was the plan, and obviously that's how
I was gonna go. When the day comes we speak,
I speak to Tahoe. Clearly, whatever he said yesterday, that
clearly wasn't the move. It sounded good, but that wasn't
going down. So once that happened, I was just like,
all right again. I assumed that y'all was gonna speak
that day. But again I should have hit you up

(18:59):
and sai yo, hey XYZ going on. I don't know
if I'm gonna be able to you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Whatever, whatever, it's a transportation x y z x y Z.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
So for me, I apologize because I could have just
told you myself, and I should have told you that.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm kind of tight that you apologized like that. That
was way better than mine. I feel like you're throwing
me under the bus again. I'm really not Now. That
was a really good apology, and I'm actually I'm not
fucking with you behind that also to gaslight you even more.

(19:34):
I didn't know I wasn't going until I wasn't going.
It wasn't like I was just sitting here like I'm
not going. I'm watching her crawl up the New Jersey whatever,
and it's like an hour away, an hour and twenty
minutes away. She didn't get you. She didn't get back
to Bronx till nine fifteen. At that point, I still

(19:56):
don't know if I'm not going because you told me
that the lounge started at eight, so I could have
been like, yo, you know what, I'm on my way,
but I'm laying there like because I know what's gonna happen.
She's not even out clothing. She been sweating all day.
So now I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna be tight,

(20:16):
and I gotta wake up and go to work at
three some in the morning, after going back and for
the Bronx, I just pulled ao audible and Shade was bothered.
Sh hit me like, uh, you wasn't gonna say nothing.
I'm like, because I already know I'm gonna have to
argue with everybody behind this, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Just like, Yo, you ain't have to argue with me.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
But what my point is, I wasn't. I didn't really
make a conscious decision until the end, and at the
end was I probably went to bed at ten o'clock,
So between nine fifteen to ten o'clock I made it
audible like yo, fuck this, and then I went to sleep.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
So I mean to jet for a second, I don't
know if tall Who's going about this the right way,
but I appreciate it because that's the way I do.
I like to explain myself. But sometimes by explaining what happened,
it sounds like a deflection, and it sounds like a
lack of accountability, whereas yesterday was just like yo, I'm
sorry and that was it, and well it depends. So

(21:12):
I'm kind of asking to the room because you know,
I'm going through this even you know, in therapy and stuff.
And it was like I realized, like, damn, sometimes I
could be viewed as deflection. I like to explain my
intentions to people and how things ended up happening. So
two part questions. I asked the first part and then
let your answer dodge. How do you feel about Tahoe

(21:35):
explaining what happened? Do you feel like that's a deflection
or are you happy with him explain taking the time.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
About nothing? He just said, that's my answer.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Also, there's a reason I didn't call, because I did
think about calling.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
You told me that you were having funds.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I didn't want. You're in the middle of doing what
you're doing, Like, don't call me and tell me some
bullshit in the middle of doing what I'm doing, especially
if it's.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You consistently make things about you this whole time. You
just made all of this about you, your thoughts, your feelings,
how you do things, how you process things, and none
of that has anything to do with me.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I had everything to do with coming to your thing.
The only reason I was going was for you, because
I don't want going away anywhere.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
So you also didn't go. Is that for me to
and you didn't say you wasn't.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Coming thing for me?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
But it was about going to your thing, which makes
it that's the umbrella, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
The your thing is about me.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yes, it's your day, it's your party, it's all that,
but you as to your thing.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You not coming was about you, and then you not
telling me that you wasn't coming about that.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was about you. I didn't not want to deflate.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I get that.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, it's about being considered sometimes in the middle of
my party. I don't want you to tell me you're.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Not coming like that's some tomorrow, Like what don't call
me tell me you ain't coming? Funk out of here?
What did you need to make this moment about you.
I'm over here having fun and now you're that's making
it about me. Just he just wanted to let you
know I won't be there. I don't want to do that.
I can't say one more thing, Dodge.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
I understand your disappointment, and that really hit me when
you was like, you know, you don't feel appreciated all
the time and supported. And I will say this though,
I feel like Tao has a really good track record
of supporting his friends and being there for us. Do

(23:48):
you think that he deserves some grace in this moment?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
No, like a y'all okay, not y'all sitting here trying
to make me feel like, oh, you know it's okay
because you have you have a great No, you're pacifying
the behavior, and you and by pacifying in the behavior,
you're turning it on me, like as if I owe

(24:13):
him grace. That's what you just did. You just flipped
it and made it seem like I owe him grace
because he's a good friend or has a good track
record of being a good friend. Therefore I can't hold
him accountable for the way that he handled this particular situation.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I didn't. I ain't mean to come off like that.
I feel like.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Somebody's track record is important into into how you handle it,
and I think it's a normal thing to take that
into consideration. If somebody is an habitual line stepper, then
you're not gonna have grace for them. But if somebody
is always there for you and one time they not a.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Right, but then nobody is also taking an account the
constant contingencies that I do make like he makes these
like you.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Know I dont rs VP.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know I'm gonna be there and all of these
other things.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
This time rs VP didn't I So I tell you,
don't force this any other time I come. But I
don't know, s VP. You make me r VP, and
I don't. Look at what you're doing to me. Look
at what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
You're done.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, talking about the contingent contingency, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm off of it.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
And this is everything that I'm saying is true. I
am sorry I made you feel that way. I didn't
you know what. You told me not to come several times,
by the way, right, such a problem to come, which
also added to the reason why I was like, she
ain't gonna care. She told me not to come bad time.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
She adn't come to my fifty birthday party.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
You what.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
For your fiftieth birthday? You idiot? You was on a
fucking cruise.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
No, I do a party on like the twenty fourth,
the day.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Before to play party.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
You ain't come.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You ain't teld me wasn't coming. Just ain't come.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I didn't tell you I was coming either.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well that's kind of fell. It's fifty fifty, it's a milestone.
Thirty six a no milestone. Miles is another day. It's
just your it's just your dad. It's not like a fifty.
It's not half a century. It's not like a celebration
of life.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Remember before the show what I said, Okay, right.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I'm just saying, you miss somebody's fifty if and you
expected them to just hop up and be there for
your thirty six.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I have zero expectations. Actually, my my expectations have literally
like just plundered.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I turned fifty, you did it, wasn't there, no where
to be found, no where to be found. One of
my best friends, Emma, not if you don't come in
the fiftieth, just saying I can't dodge my bad.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I appreciate you yesterday. This is why you're in my favor,
because you know.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So he's forgiving?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Is he forgive the person that actually apologized.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I apologize. That's the first thing I said. I'm sorry.
I gave you several reasons why I was sorry. Several
you didn't hear it. Are you okay?

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Like?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Is everything okay up here?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Did I not apology? Hello? Anybody else in the room
heard me apologize? Guys?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think, of course you did.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Of course you did, said I think I did yesterday.
Did I not apologize? A version of it? I said,
I apologize for making you feel that way. I literally
gave mad reasons why sorry.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
So all right, So usually in these moments' time, you're
my og and you're giving me guidance. I just think,
in this moment, let me give you a little bit
of guidance right quick. And that's you're better than me guidance.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
So thank you, Thank you, Malcolm. I have changed. I'm
really I saw myself a minute ago, but I've changed.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
So I think although you opened up with you were sorry,
and you listened to the reasons why you were sorry. Often,
like me, when I'm in a situation and somebody does
something to me, when they tell me that they're sorry,
and they follow it up with a hundred reasons of
why it wasn't as this kind of diminishes the sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But she never heard the sorry in the first place.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
A tough to say she did hear the sorry, But
I think when it's compiled up with the other stuff.
I think that's what I say to women. If you
talk to me for an hour, right, and and for
one minute you told me how good I was, and
I did everything right, et cetera, et cetera. But for
fifty nine minutes you told me why I was bad.
What do you think ways more the fifty nine minutes,

(29:02):
not the one minute of you telling me, oh, yeah, no,
that was cool.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I mean, but what if the reasons that you're bad
are valid to whom, to the person that is talking
to you.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
So your reasons are valid to you, that's what you
just said, because they're not valid to me.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, I mean that they don't have to be. I
can't make you accept my thought process. I could tell
you I'm sorry for making you feel that way. I
never intended to make you feel that way. It was
my intent to pull up. I understand that you that
the whole reason why you even invite me in the
first place, Because you're like nigga. You ain't even really
part of my friend group. But I invite you because
you actually want to be there for me. So and

(29:40):
then to dub it, I get why you'll be like, yo,
nigga really poses to make you feel a way. And
I said, I'm sorry, and I meant it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But however, no, no, no, no no, don't even finish
the sentence.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Move on, he said, in combination with just move like,
let's just let's just get what I will say is this.
I do realize that I'm really not the best with words,
as yesterday saying I'm not the best words. I often
I've hit you up about Hey, did I say it
the right way or Trump and y'all always have a
different way I could have said it. I went through

(30:19):
this this week on the internet. By the way, y'all
saw what is this guy that cheated at the Coldplay concert?
CEO dude ceo dude cheated at the Coldplay concert got
caught by the camera. And then one of the dudes
I think on stage, like when the camera went to him,

(30:42):
he ducked in the crowd. She turned around, covered her face,
and somebody on stage that was like, yo, either something
or he just got caught cheating, either having an affair
or they're shy. Other shyt right, the other shy, or
they're having an affair. This lows up. For whatever reason,
this shit went crazy. I don't know why it was

(31:04):
that crazy. It didn't look that crazy to me. Good,
but for it to go super viting with everything going on,
like Epstein's files just disappeared into minu. This is what
we're going crazy. You understand what I'm saying. I was like,
all right, people, yeah, people changed, like okay, but now
the nigga has resigned. He is no longer the CEO

(31:27):
of this million dollar whatever billion dollar. It's like an
AI company, I think AI company, which is huge right now,
like the tech boom. The AI boom is crazy, right.
And I put on the shape room or a spiritual
world or something. Women can make you well, women can
break you. What Why are you looking at me like that?

(31:51):
We've never heard that before. Apparently nobody in spiritual were
heard either.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
How did this look come on? One thing? I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, explain it.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I don't explain your thought process.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Please, I know there's coming no accountability. No, that's not
what I'm saying. I'm saying women can be your strengths
or your weakness, Like you literally got to make the
right choices out here because they will fuck you up.
Chasing cat. You're chasing cat and fucked up your whole shit.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
So again, how is that about women or is it
about men?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's about men, that's what.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you said women can make you, women can break you?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Speaking about men.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Again, what does this have to do with women? Isn't
it about everything to do with where men could either
have control in like self control or men don't have
self controls exactly right?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
So I think your point is that you were trying
to say you don't have a way of words, because
I understand what you're trying to say, but the way
you said it.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Was not exactly the best I meant it. But I
don't see why women would think that that was like,
what about what is the action that they would do
in this situation that would make it, y'all fall I
don't understand.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Because why would the comment be about women and not
be about the accountability of men. Of a married man
that is dating openly outside hugging up with an employee
of his regardless of the situation, that's quid pro quote,
like in front of all of our faces. He's the problem.
She's divorced, So who's really the problem here?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I said that they're both in marriages.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, she's it came out and said that she's divorced.
He's still actively married.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Listen, I'm not it's not even I'm not making this
her fault, but she has some She made a choice
here too, data married men, so she's.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yes, I'm saying that everybody's guilty here. It's not men
or women, it's people.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
But at my point, my my comment was actually speaking
to men like, you can't. You can't live your life
chasing plussy. Bro, you can't, and you got to treat
the people around you with respect. Women will fry your shit.
You think that you desire, you're gonna just dick your
way through life. No, women will fry your shit. That's

(34:15):
what my point was. Obviously, Like I said, I'm not
the best words because I was just you know, I'm
going through whatever. I had a million things going on yesterday,
so it was just something I did, like a red light.
But it's also a statement that I've heard over time.
This is like an old age saying. So I wasn't
thinking that they were going to take it the wrong way. However,

(34:37):
I did go into comments and I clarify what I meant. No,
this is totally about him. Even though she does have
accountability to be had here as well for her choices,
This is totally about him. You chose to date somebody
that works for you. I think it was she Hr
you chose to as the CEO. You're fucking the HR
and you're married human resources. I mean, that's even That's

(35:01):
what I was about to say, human resources.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
If you think like you can't be at a Cold
Play concert top of the balcony hugged up, It's like
if you was discreet and somebody caught you incognito, that's different.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
But you're at the concert arms folded.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Because there are other people that worked there with them too. Yeah,
that's why they knew. Yeah, everybody was like, oh yo,
y'all know, y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But even like when you think about things like when
you go to like a game, like an NBA game
or w NBA game and you know that the camera
is gonna come around, everybody always gets caught by surprise
because even though you know the camera's coming around, you
never think like, oh, it's going to hit me like
you think that some people like you think that you're
in seats that are maybe too high up or maybe

(35:45):
too low that you feel like you're not going to
Like I can understand going to a place with tens
of thousands of people and feeling like this is okay,
nobody is gonna know. And you got caught on the
summer Jam screen that that wasn't something than that anybody
prepared for, which is why he dipped load so crazy.
It would have it, honestly, would not have been as

(36:07):
bad if they did not react the way that they reacted.
The reaction is what put the spotlight on them, but kept.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
It there too, because they was going through different people,
you know what I'm saying. They were tating through the crowd,
and once they did that, it's like your whole up stage.
Keep that light up there for what's going on and
being weird, and then the people react, you see, they
face it so they they like yo, like yo, goys
like even if.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
You don't think you're gonna end up on camera to
go somewhere, yeah, people with.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
The chances right what you're doing fifty thousand people that
you don't know, probably a private suite them niggas was
not in g They was not in gim pop like
they probably thought they were sick. They wasn't in gim pop.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
But that's I'm sure we've all crept at some point
in our lives and kept a load.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
You don't do it, you don't. You can't keep a
concert and go to a thirty thousand arena.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Honestly, that's where I when I was low, that was
where I felt the safest.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
That's where I say people from anywhere and they see you.
I can't tell you. By the time I got broke
up with because I went with a chick and my
girl was on the same line.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
As me.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
And I I never even seen her. I still I
went ordered the hot dogs or whatever, to pep the coke,
and left, went about my business and then got blocked
and everything that same day and didn't know why. At
the day I had the cash after, like, what's going on? No, no, no,
that's not what happened. She asked me. She sent me
a cash up request for some money that I had
borrowed from her. I was like, what the fuck, I

(37:46):
don't know you saw me, Because to this day she
thinks I saw her and just doubed her, didn't even
look at it. To this day, she thinks that hates me.
I never saw you. I god, I never saw you.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
It was his own.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I wouldn't do that because well, she was my shorty.
She wasn't my girl, right, my main shorty girl me
right like she was the one I go sleep by
crib and walk a dog and like that of me,
it's main squeeze, main squeeze. But she was, well, friends,

(38:20):
that's over.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, anyways, you from the group.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
He din't even see you. Yeah, I never saw her.
She knew he was there with somebody else. Yeah, shorty
is right next to me.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Was done.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Never come back from I'm still sick about it. Not
that like she had moved on. She you know whatever.
But I hate the fact that you think I saw you.
I swear I never saw you. But like y'all say,
who the funk goes to a concert? She I don't understand.
I don't understand that move.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's if I'm in the suite. That's a different entrance,
a different I'm not thinking it's running into no body.
But what's so funny? I went to summer jam and
I was in a suite and coming out the suite
and on my way home, I ran into one of
my exes who was also in a different suite, and
I'm like, this is crazy, Like you in bad fucking log, Like,

(39:23):
what do you do this? Nigga don't even live in
this country.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I'm like, what are you doing here? That's what happens
at concerts. You see people from all walks of life
that you've known somewhere.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yo, that's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Remember, yeah, she's dating Neo. Now I see him somewhere.
She just on some random ship, you know what I mean.
That's so I'm scared to go to the Chris Brown concert.
Why too many?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, that's a mix.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
That is a mix. I stopped. I stopped. I stopped.
I don't know why you even said it, but I stopped.
What's worse though, y'all going to the concert. Sheating openly
at work with Shorty.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Going to the concert because we're gonna hold it down work. No,
that's your work, husband, is your work. White, They're gonna hold.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
It down, the situation, everything that's not crazy in front
of everybody at the job. You're the CEO, niggas, No,
you're the CEO. And you're mad and you're sucking the
human resources person ahead of human on lock, openly, whole
department on lock. That's not crazy. That to me, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Got to hear both sides because I remember back in
the day when I used to work in like the
service industry, and like the head bartender is like fucking
the general manager. So now she's walking around like she
the fucking GM two and she's like bossing number two.
So everybody got to walk on eggshells because she could
get you in trouble with him. So now it's.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Your person finding out you was around thirty thousand strangers
with this person, right one thing, Your person finding out
that everybody that you know that knows her knows your
fucking this person. To me, that's worse. YO, to me,
that's worse knowing all your friends know, everybody at work
know that you're in a whole relationship and everybody knows.

(41:18):
I would much rather the strangers. It hurts worse for
the person being cheated on.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, but it makes sense for the cheater because it's
like the people around Like that said, the people around you,
they're not gonna say or you could kind of analyze
like all right, Well, Becky's not gonna say nothing and
Sarah's not gonna say nothing because I know them and
I know the leverage I have on them, and da
da dah. But if you just walking into a concert,
you might see your wife's mother, you might see any

(41:43):
fucking body of your neighbor. You don't know who's gonna
see you, who's going to.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Have a camera out. I get that, and it's like,
but I don't want to know everybody. I don't want
to punch the strangers and the might haves in the
face for knowing you was cheating on me, that my
person was cheating on you in front of you and
you was cool with it. Your friends, everybody's a dub
if I find out they knew everything, you know what
I'm saying, I trying to everybody's a dub, Like, don't

(42:11):
talk to me, don't act like we're cool. You knew
and you was just cool with it.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Fire for that, here we go nothing.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Now, there'd be a lot of situations like that. People
will be having a relationships and then they'd be doing
their stuff on the side and they just incorporate everything,
you know what I'm saying. So it's just crazy like,
and that's a lot of that's a lot of money
over there, that AI stuff, a lot of you know,
they're getting a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
A lot of bread. The fact that he had to
bro he had to resign within a week. Yo, why
do you think he quit? Oh, because the sh was over,
the worship was over or something.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Like that, because of the thing. The thing is, when
you're in certain positions of power, you're so kind of
supposed to be beyond approach and you're kind of supposed
to have a certain love of like moral and ethics,
which is why a lot of people say it's very
hard for you to be in like real big man
majorial positions or like CEOs or like heads of departments

(43:10):
and not be married. Like the board looks at you
as somebody that is untrustworthy of, somebody that that is
not of good moral character. So when you're really like
trying to position yourself, especially in corporate, you kind of
gotta be married. And if you're so, I'm gonna say
it in a black wave, you're so watless to have

(43:31):
some shit like this happen. You're just a bad look
for the company. You gotta go either, we're gonna get
rid of you, or you're gonna leave on your own
and you have to go. You're breaking probably something in
an HR handbook that says something about your morals and ethics.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
See, that's supposed to be at work.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It's not even that, like you think. It's just the
work thing. It's not just sleeping with somebody at work.
This could have still happened if he was caught high
profile with a stranger being married and it had this
type of blowback like there is there is there's there's
clauses and stuff like that. Yes, there's language for that. Sorry,

(44:07):
take the camera from you. I got to fix my teddy.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I wonder I'm wondering if I should go to the
Patreon now or if I should I really want to
talk to y'all about some ship. Let's talk about it
matter of fact. Yet, let's just go to the patreon now,
right right down this time yesterday for those of y'all
that are listening, I already told y'all we go in

(44:30):
the Patreon. I got a real conversation I want to
have about life, and you know, I just don't want
it to be in the regular episode, So you know,
check us out over there and we'll be back in
a second.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Yellow.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
All right, we're back very I want to say heated combo.
It wasn't heated, but it was emotionally emotionally charging charge
like that. I want to segue from what we were
speaking about in the Patreon. It's what video that I
saw today. Wasn't looking for topics and we just said

(45:04):
that that conversation was emotionally charged. Well, this conversation is
about something somebody said, it's emotional narcissism. Is that a thing?
Just making sure see what she has to say.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
This might piss some people off, but it has to
be said. Not every tear means someone's a victim, and
not every man is automatically the abuser. Let's talk about
vulnerable narcissism and women, the face of narcissism nobody wants
to address. We've been trained to see narcissism as arrogant
grandiosity and entitlement, usually in men, but vulnerable narcissism wears

(45:48):
a completely different mask.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
It hides behind pain, it.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
Hides behind sensitivity, It hides behind the very real experiences
of trauma, but weaponizes those experiences as a tool to control.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Here's how it plays out.

Speaker 8 (46:02):
A woman gets disregulated and demands that her entire family
reorganize around her emotions. She'll control partners with phrases such
as you need to change if you.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Want me to feel safe.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
She manipulates co parenting dynamics. This is where I see
it a lot mandated co parenting dynamics by turning the
children against their father because she feels threatened, abandoned, and wounded.
Here's the part that stings. Yes, her pain is real,
but that does not make her behavior healthy. Emotional dysregulation
does not justify emotional control. Your trauma is not your

(46:37):
partner's debt to pay. In fact, research shows that this
is not just anecdotal doctor Pinnikus and Kine. They describe
vulnerable narcissists as hypersensitive and controls seeking through victim narratives.
In parental alienation research, we see clear patterns of emotional
manipulation use as punishment in co parenting dynamics. But what's

(47:00):
really interesting in all of this nobody wants to consider
this abuse when it's wrapped up in female fragility. The
Me Too movement exposed real abuse, but it also gave
some women a shield to hide behind. And to avoid accountability.
If you cry enough, society will believe that you were
the victim. But if a man did the same controlling behaviors,

(47:23):
monitoring where you go, who you talk to, demanding constant reassurance,
we'd call it emotional abuse. Control is control no matter
who is doing it, and sometimes covert female narcissism hides
in plain sight because we confuse.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Tears with truth.

Speaker 8 (47:41):
This is not about blaming women.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Don't get you Nikas on a twist, lats.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
This is about owning that dysfunction wears many faces. True
healing requires that we are willing to call out unhealthy patterns.
It's very easy for us to all do it externally
until it's time to do it on ourselves, even when
it's uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Leave me on the research down below.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
It smell like some libster on the grill.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Honestly, That's why I hate when people weaponize their emotions
and their tears to try to make it seem like
they're right in a situation. I feel like I totally agree,
and like y'all didn't watch Love Island. Y'all didn't watch it,

(48:36):
But when she was talking, all I kept thinking in
my head was that's fucking hood r hood of that.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Bitch. God damn it.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Like, if there was somebody that was the most toxic
and unhinged and emotionally abusive person on that show, it
was this young woman that literally was like trying to
control every body, that didn't take accountability for anything that
she did, didn't take accountability for the feelings that she hurt,

(49:07):
for the way that she behaved, and she cried and
is it me? Does America hate me?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
You're the problem and everybody with a logical mind can
see that you're the problem. And I had a friend
like that, Like, there's so many women that move like this,
and I love it and call it out every time.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
Call it out.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Vulnerable narcissism, That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Vulnerable narcissism. Yeah, bitch is vulnerable narcisism. Yeah. A lot
of weaponis in the emotions, for sure. I think we
see that a lot going on.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Like a lot of times, people like you said, weaponis
in the tears, Like you know what I'm saying, because
or like you said, to be right, but also to
not be wrong. I think sometimes to not be wrong
it is even stronger because you know, you could think
that you're right, or you could not be right about something.
You damn to dye on the sword to not be wrong,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's the

(50:04):
limps that people go to just to not be wrong.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
And I think that's coming from an Aquarius. Is crazy
that the fact I'm the only one who heard that, Dad,
coming from an Aquarius.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I don't like when you talked to my favor disparagingly.
You did a great job, paid I thought.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
It was great too. I just got it brings some
hate on there. No, I just wish that you know
what they said is she actually said it in this clip.
It's easy to see it with other people. It's hard
to see it when it's yourself. And I feel like
Aquarius is I like that? Very vulnerable narcissists. I think

(50:49):
I like that word though.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, I mean, I'm familiar with what she was talking about,
but I never heard her for no reason yesterday narcissism,
What do you hear manipulation which she used that word also,
but vulnerable narcissism, So she said, like that just sounds
way more powerful. But now it's definitely manipulation tactics. And

(51:14):
you know, I learned about that in therapy and other
videos and stuff, and that shit is real.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I just want everybody to go see the lady. And
I feel like if people go see the lady and
they're honest about things, that there's a way to mitigate
this type of behavior and to be able to see.
And people need to learn how to have control over
their emotions because your emotions do not control you. And

(51:45):
I think that that's a lesson that a lot of
people did not learn growing up in one of the
things that I appreciated with my dad. Because I do know.
I can see how you can turn your trauma into
tears and weaponize it. I can see it clear as day,
and I feel like I even have that ability, but

(52:05):
I consciously, consciously try my best not to do that, Like,
no matter how I feel, I try my best not
to allow that to overpower and to change other people's emotions.
I see you, but I'm not responding because I am

(52:25):
so emotionally regulated today that there's not much you can
do that's going to be my friend. I'm I'm just saying,
there's not a lot of things you don't do this to.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Who definitely, yes, I do it to you.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
If I if I was going to allow myself and
my emotions to control this space, I wouldn't be here.
That I still show up.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
It's a job. You have to show up.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I actually don't, but I don't don't understand.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Are you going to quit?

Speaker 6 (53:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Okay, so what are you gonna do? Tell me? Tell
me how you was going to take it to hell?
What was she going to do? You come to work?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
But I don't have to come here because I love
you for that and I love that you.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I'm here because I want you to come to your
birthday party.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
And that's the part. See, that's that's the part that's
funny because I would love for you to minimize my
feelings to one experience.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Oh so I'm not okay, so I do what's another
experience that I've done that I understand? No, I need
to understand the trend that you're talking about because Trom
was like, Yo, this nigga always be showing up. This
nigga always goes above and beyond you.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
See how that's what said, how you make things solely
about you? It's not about you, friend.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I don't use friend like that. It's not it's not that,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It's not about you. It's not about you. There is
a broader picture that can be painted here that it
doesn't matter to paint because I understand the company that
I keep it, I understand the company that I keep.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
There is nothing going on. I understand a company that
I keep, and I understand.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
What are you trying to say about that word? What
do you mean a company that you keep?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I understand that I am at work and I come
to work to work, and then when I leave work,
I leave work and that's cool, Like I'm good. No no, no, no, no,
You're not going to manipulate me.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
I'm just saying that I'm not just a work I'm not.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
By the way, if you get fired from your job,
is your work life still work wife?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Absolutely no, it depends no fired, no, no, not.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Fired that work even if you resigned, no, no, no no.
If you leave the job, are y'all still I have.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I had a work wife and a work husband at
my old job. But I mean at my old school.
I'm in the same network, but I'm at a different school.
But when we do network things and I see them
still absolutely my work wife and my work husband, we
don't work together no more. And I call them that.
I see them like, hey, work husby, he's.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Got to be a different title, but y'all still kind
of work.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
We don't work together at all.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
We only see each other in work type of environments.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
And it's only maybe four times a year.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Then that's not even a thing. Y'all is just like
y'all are like ex'es or forever or something that's not
your work, your work person. You have an active relationship
with this person.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
But if I've no longer worked at that company, then no,
how many how.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Many times do you leave the job and still mess
with your work wife?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That turns into like a relationship.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
That's the difference work. I don't think that happens.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
You're not supposed to.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I think that wife is a matter of convenience and
just because you're here. I don't really think that people
leave the job and continue a relationship with the person
that was their work wife. Depends on how far the
work wife is well, then it becomes an affair. Then
it's real, and.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
It's not supposed to be real. It's supposed to only
be within the walls of that. It got to I
don't know you never had a work wife. I depressed
my work husband the other day because when I used
to work at this specific space, he used to buy
me pineapples once a week. It was either on a
Friday or Monday. Every week. I have fresh pineapples. And

(56:42):
now we're in network stuff, and now we're going to
be around each other for like the next two weeks.
And I said, hey, hubby, where's my fruit? Where the
fuck is we're back? And the next day she said,
and my fruit? And you know what, that's how it's
supposed to be. Shout out to my work hubby.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I don't like actually rebooting the system one a nigga?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah yeah, yo, like where my shirt at? Hold on,
wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I got a lot of things I want to talk about.
I'm hoping that you and I, you guys and I
can do a part two this week at some point.
I really because I got a lot of really good
topics on him. But we spoke about what we spoke
about for a long time. Don't do that, yeap yo.
This girl is so fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I've done nothing.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
It's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I've done nothing.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
I don't know. Listen, I try here, I understand, Listen,
I know what you got to do. I know what
all of y'all got to deal with. I just want
to say that Andrew even today, even drew the fact
that he come here and I called him short every
time I thought about it the other day, like, Yo,
this is your friend. Why you can't let this short
shit go? But he did say Dick was bigger than mine.
I feel like that's way bigger thing calling him short.

(57:54):
I can't just say that and just in passing and
just expect me not I got we got to do
this now. But I do realize is that everybody that
has a relationship with me, I owe them a little
bit of grace because I'm a I'm a triggering person.
I malcolm.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I would say the same thing about people in the discord.
Anybody has a relationship with me, it gotta be like, Yo,
it is hell dealing with this nigga. Sometimes I understand that.
I understand that I do, and I thank y'all for
making that conscious choice to allow this darkness into your life.
I really do, And y'all deserve my appreciation.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
I do.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I do appreciate y'all so much. You know what I'm saying.
I do. I do I do. How many times I
just on passing, just throw a random shot at somebody,
just a random shot, like nothing. We was chilling, I know,
yesterdays like Nigga every five minutes. I just did it
to you a couple of seconds ago.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
For I will say this, man, you're you've come a
long way since high school. I've been this way though
you have. But you're a work in progress. And as
long as you in the oper trajectory, so long I
got precious.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yo, Get out of my head. Get out of my head.
As fifty years old.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
That's a process. Somebody's in an upper trajectory like Jim.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Listen, I'm gonna give y'all we got another fifteen minutes
before we get out of here. That's true. Yeah, they
said I'm on a one percent slope ahead Drew, yo.
But I just just be clear. I take a lot
of this ship that y'all y'all throw at me too.

(59:40):
It's not a one way thing, y'all. Y'all consistently throw
ship at me as well, and I take it. Sometimes
I take it. Most times I take it. Sometimes I
can't take it.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
This is what it is.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
You can't take it. Oh. By the way, yes, all
of these topics I was talking about half we're gonna
do in part two if people show up to work.
If they don't, then we can't do it is what
it is. But one person that can't take it, Drake
can't take it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I told y'all, Bro, y'all think it's a fucking game.
He don't funck with America no more. He don't. And
yesterday as much as y'all friends, he talking about Americans
for real. He don't fuck with y'all no more. Bro.
That ship he did over the weekend and he sold
out the three nights back to back to back, three
different sets. We did, we did, he did.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
But he.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Said that UK artist, what are you doing cartel? I'm
just trying figure out which part you're talking about. He
put out Lauren to on Time. Lauren, Yeah, pulling in impossible.
But the nigga said that UK rappers are the best
rappers in the world. Mh, you a rapper, How do

(01:01:03):
you feel about that?

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
I mean, I feel like that's subjective, just like how
they say, uh, people from overseas are better at basketball
than American basketball players.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Same argument.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
That's delusion at best.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Argument.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
I think the rapping is more it's more crazy. I
think we don't have as much proof of concept with
the rapper with the rappers, but sports, I think that's
you can, like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
The Nigga said that artists that UK artists are better at.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
This point in time in music.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yes, what rappers specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But yeah, look at look at the rappers that we're
that we're we're posting up.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Yeah, that's the I think that's the point that goes
back to the basketball point right when we're talking about
the youth basketball in America versus youth basketball overseas, right,
and why the best players in the league now are
all from overseas Canada, Europe, France. You know what I'm saying,
joker Luca. So, I think the same kind of thing happens.
I think from a youth development perspective in music, it's

(01:02:07):
more fundamental, it's more I'm not gonna say traditional, but
it's more structured, it's more culturally based, you get what
I'm saying, As opposed to American young kids coming up,
what is it drill? So we're talking about the actual
skill set of rapping. I think there might be an
argument to say, well, hold on who's actually just like

(01:02:27):
the basketball shit, like all right, we got to kind
of look now and say, all right, hold up, some
of these kids over here is they're better than the
American kids because of how how the game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Is being played a.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Certain context. What he said could make sense. And I
also appreciate like overseas they appreciate hip hop culture, especially
like in Germany and Japan and shit like that, they
appreciate hip hop culture way more than we do. And
then more purists, way more. I will say, like, so
that statement could make sense on like some ground lyricool

(01:03:00):
rap scene in London that I have no idea about.
But I can't name five UK rappers, you know what
I mean? And the ones that I can't name, they're
not smoking niggas like Nas and jay Z.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Year old niggas. It's crazy. I'm talking about our best.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
So if we name it to his basketball analogy, I'm
not going to compare the I'm gonna compare their best
to Lebron and stuff, the o G niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
That's not but it's not we're not talking about best.
We're talking about you. You have to think like within
a time frame, but it's not what the statement that
you said is that UK niggas. UK rappers are better
than New York rappers today, American rappers today, and when
we're talking about it, you have to look at it
today and we're not talking about the ogs, we're not

(01:03:50):
talking about the goats. And then with your own thought process,
people from overseas, I feel like they actually study hip
hop culture because they're they're not automatically born into it.
It's not like, oh, you're black in America, so you
and you listen to rap music, so you're automatically a
part of the culture. Like they might know more of
the history, more of the greats, more of the music.

(01:04:12):
They actually study it to embed themselves into it. Therefore
that makes them better. There are a lot of rappers
that are just better lyricists. They're just saying more shit
that actually makes sense and it's not shake your ass
Papyakuci slide on a nigga, slide on ya shooting nigga
in the face, Like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I do want to know that. I want to know
what we're talking about. Who is the people that you're
talking about, Who are the people that these artists that
you're talking about from the UK that are presumably better
than American. Which ones are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I like Dexta, I love Skepta, Jigs, Fire, Dave, Dave, Dave,
who's Dave exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
From the UK?

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
He got the he did the joint with Drake, he
got the sweeter Man joint. I think with Drake he's
on that on Why are you laughing? That record is hard?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Who else? I like Skilly Skilly being I can't think
of this better than Kendrick the niggas that you just met,
better than Ken Drake, who is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Probably arguably the best lyricists in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
That's one. Give me another one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I would just say Drake me personally, but he's not
from America.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Give me another American rapper.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I'm not I'm not good with America. I'm not good
with rapping period.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I don't like him. I've never really don't like I've
never really had a like a connection or an affinity
to J Cole music.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Better they better than a boogie? Yes, I don't see
me personally. I'm not an a boogie fan either, but
I just know how popular he is in a game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
So if you're comparing they knew niggas to all new niggas.
I don't know they new niggas, but all new niggas
ain't really that much to brag about, so I could
see in that context. But what's the nigga that's on
power routine? Know that the rapper nigga that's the evil
nigga on power right now on rais Raisin kingan Joey Badass.

(01:06:24):
You got niggas out here that's spitting you say.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I haven't heard of Joey Badass on the soul.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
That can forth be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I'm talking about me personally. I have not heard of
Joey Badass on the mantle him more as an actor
right now, then as a rapper.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I did too to them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Bars was coming out in that in that exchange between
him and the West Coast nigga up the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Whole, that whole side and Ravon he's not nice?

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
What are we What are we really saying just because
you can appreciate the other side, y'all dead ass.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I don't think that there are many rappers right now
in America that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Not really think to it though. Are we really listening
to rap like that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
If I feel like, if it's that good, it's going
to reach my ears regardless and then I'm going to
like commit myself to it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
I would say that that goes to the culture where
American music is period versus where UK music is. They
are propping up hip hop American music isn't, and they're
going towards the ice spices to destroy longwaves that can
cause the Playboy CARDI rendition. They're going towards a whole
different style of music that isn't really lyricism. Like that

(01:07:36):
doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We don't sell at it.
We just don't celebrate the culture of hip hop like
we used to. It's it becomes it's hip hop hip pop.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
When I heard Drake say this, I immediately was like, oh, well,
he's going to say that because he's in London, so
he's pander into the crowd. I get that, But now
that I think about it, he might.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I mean, I don't. I don't know the London rappers,
but you compared to the news listen to their music.
I listened to that. Yeah, yeah, what Yo? What is

(01:08:18):
he talking about Batman for you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
No, no, no Batman yo versus yo Batman like Batman?
You know about that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
When I heard that, ship. He was blowing out on
km T on the drake ship. I said, Yo, not
like that. It was it was fire. It was fire,
it was he Yeah, I like that. Give me the
funk out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
That's another one, Central C.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I like central. I really want somebody to make us
American versus UK playlist or something. I need to hear this.
I need to hear how nice they are. But we're
going to talk about Epstein. I want to know what
y'all think about those files not being relevant anymore. We're
going to talk about fifty to fifty uh? And is

(01:09:13):
it possible do y'all think it's possible for a man
to the average man to be the bread winner to
pay the bills and the women stay home in today's economy? No,
hell no, we know that absolutely. Well. Sorry, there are
several outlets talking about it and they're basically saying that

(01:09:33):
they don't believe. And we've I've seen the man talk
about it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
As a matter of fact, I'll play this clip and
then we'll talk about it in the next.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
What day are you trying to usurp from us? Are
you going to tell us or is it going to
be a surprise?

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Like, how doing this? No, we could do it virtual.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And again my question is what day are you trying
to usurp from us? Is it going to be a
surprise or are you going to tell us like you
just told us that we was recording a second episode.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
I'll definitely give your heads up.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
If two people want to say to me they actually
want to be fifty to fifty, cool, go through your
fifty to fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:10:12):
Do I personally believe in it? Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
I think, in my both professional and spiritual opinion, one,
I do not think women were made to have to
take on all the stress of work that they're taking
on right now.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
I understand that for some that is empowering and they
enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
And I think if you are a woman who genuinely
enjoys being out there achieving doing stuff, by all means,
do it, because again, I want you to be your
true self. I think there's a lot of women who
fell in that rabbit hole, and deep inside they don't
want that. They rather be home raising a family, enjoying themselves,
having more freedom. And I think just looking at from
the perspective of again, the way our bodies are wired.

(01:10:51):
The woman's body is not built to have to handle
so much stress, whereas the man is built to handle
more stress.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
If two people want to say to me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yeah all right, yo we yo, yeah you Dodge's sitting
here like thank god, somebody notices that because I am
not wired for stress. I am not. I love you all,
we will see you hopefully in a few days. Because
I like to say about this like y'all not wired.
Imagine if a nigga said that that actually didn't agree

(01:11:20):
with y'all. We imagine if niggas said that in a
different way, like y'all ain't. Y'all ain't like us, y'all
are weaker than us. So shameless. M yes, you may
a favorite close up for me please in the world.
So shamous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
If you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
So