Let Me Feed You Queen (part one)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
If you know what I'm sayings, If you know what
I'm saying, I'm missing a Liberty game for y'all, and
I just want to point that out because it's very
important to me.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
She's sold and I'm missing it. I thought the game
was at four. That shit was at twelve thirty.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm like, God, isn't it the time that you wanted
to record?

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I thought the game was answered. The question is this
not the time that you wanted to record and the day.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
That you take a little stupid ass voice office.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Make sure that this is because you can't complain when
you set the time and date. Glad you understand understand
the atmosphere where you're at right now.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I'm trying to working on understand what.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You understand.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
You see the gas lighting that's happening here.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Who's really gaslighting?

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I just mentioned something and said.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
I'm missing before you niggas, But you're the one that
set the.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Time because the day but the game was at four.
That you have to do with us?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
What does any ofot have to do with us.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
That I'm missing the game?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
The fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
All right? Trump? Where you got that face on?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I know what? I got glasses on it. I don't
know why he has Why do you have glasses? Start there?
Because your glasses.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Are darker because my eyes are somber. My eyes are
reddish somber. I have you know, I've been, I've been,
you know, I've just been in that weird space. So
I've just been covering it because I don't want to
give off for dark. Even though the black might be
a little dark. The all black outfit, which there's a
lot of black allergic to broke girl, shout out to lava,

(02:24):
shout out to the black billionaires.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, what but why does he have the glasses.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Like to accessorise? So I was also listening to Memph
Bleak podcast and he was talking about with Michael Jackson.
He definitely the way, and Michael Jackson made everybody in
the whole way turn and face the wall. He was like, yo,
I don't like looking niggas right now.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Eye.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I was like, yo, I need to adapt that.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Like, First of all, you did two things. Just compare
yourself to Michael Jackson. What aspect in an aspirational sense?
I'm not on that level yet. Like my glasses ain't
dark like yours?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I mean, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Second of all, I asked you if you listened to
the podcast I did last week about my best my
other best friend passing right. You said no, but you
were listening to men Bleak ships ago. We got him
because you came in here. You ain't wearing the lasses.
When did this? When did this aspiration hit? When did

(03:30):
it clean? Okay, clean it up?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Wait? Wait when's the last time we recorded? So?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, today, I don't know, not going on, not going on.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
It's not going on?

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Is the week after my man's passed, triump new one,
you know what I mean? They were there was a
jux juxtaposition. I guess Troum on the inner side of
my life and Young on the other side.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
You would say, a trump what do you think?

Speaker 7 (04:01):
Yeah, you know, I have this really great picture that
kind of paints that because at the time, like Taiho
and I always been best friends, but then we kind
of went off and separated. So he was chilling with
g Young. I was chilling with man Steve Koba, and
I got this picture with the four of us and
we was hanging out at what's it called, like the

(04:24):
conventions they used to do in the city, at the
Jacob Javits Black expox Men, And I.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Was like, yo, it was a classic time.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Like you know, we both had other best friends at
the time, but all four of us was hanging together
and we all had different energies, but it somehow worked
a mess. It was just I got to pull that
picture up and show you definitely dope, man, It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
So Young was living in Atlanta for the last sixteen
seventeen years. Right he passed, and the people in Atlanta
want to do a funeral for him down there, But
and so we had to wait for them to ship
to body up here once they was done with them,
I guess or whatever, for lack of a better word,

(05:09):
flatty whatever, I'll introduce you in a second. You could
give your input whenever you want, though, right, this is
for everybody. But I'm was booked to go on a
trip and to host a trip this weekend, coming from
Thursday to Monday.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Why are they doing the funeral this Saturday? What would
y'all do in New York after?

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Because they were supposed to do it this last week,
but they wound up canceling it for whatever reason. Then
they said, all right, we're going to ship with the
body the next week, and then they scheduled it for
this Saturday. And when I found out of all this,
I told everybody, Yo, I can't There's no way I
can return the money that was paid to me. I'm
hosting the ship, so it's a whole trip. They paid
for the flight, the trip, hotels, everything. I'm gonna get

(06:04):
their book shit on Saturday. I'm gonna get the money.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'ma be honest with you, like my guy knows how
we were when he was here. It's all that matters.
At the end of the day, I'm gonna get the money.
You guys had it set for a specific time. I
had something set for a different time. Now you move
this thing to this thing. I'm gonna take this thing.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go make my money. This is
my livelihood. I love my man's but this is what

(06:30):
I'm doing. They say you can't give the money back.
You not going to probably mess up the whole trip.
I know these people don't know you, but at the
end of the day, I'm canceling. You know, I'm gonna
go do one thing.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Josh, Why you keep bouncing around and you see what
is going on.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
No, I'm just I'm just here.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Why because you disagree?

Speaker 5 (06:50):
No, I don't disagree. But we spoke about that already.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I get I want you to speak here.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
I don't know if you're trying to like I want
to hear what You're trying to catch.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Me in a moment.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So that's why I could possibly.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I know you are and I don't even I don't
have time. I said what I said to you on
the phone. Do what you.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Trump? What would you do, because you already know you
and hot water.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Wow shot, I just know.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
If Trump I played this so well, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm really good at this yesterday, I'm really good at this.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Bro. It's nasty with me. Bro, I'm not sure where.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
You don't even know how I can how I live
with myself, let alone my fat.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
You know what's funny. I'm not sure where you're gonna go.
But I was gonna bring it up anywhere exactly. I
know that, and I was going to bring this up.
But I agree with what you're saying about get your bread.
But I also know I missed a few funerals, and
those are things that you that will stick with you, you
know what I mean. Like I don't live with a
lot of regrets, but there's a couple of funerals that

(08:06):
I missed from like damn, you know what I mean,
And in retrospect years later, you're not gonna remember the
brand that you made, you know what I mean. So
I don't know if this is what you're alluding to
by I know I missed your grandmother's you know.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
No, no, no, okay, oh no no, because that's one
that I that's one that I genuinely regret, you know
what I mean. I appreciate that, but I was just saying,
if being that I introduced this as me and him
having the same basically relationship as you and I.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Okay, right, what if it.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Was me that was laying there, but you had this
big business deal, major business deal. Right, this is this
account is probably my this is my best grossing business deal.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
This is this is this right?

Speaker 6 (08:54):
They booked with me every month, then they pay the
most in my studio every month, and now they're paying
me here and there's like basically there's two legs of this.
Plus the person who booked me on it had three
meetings to try to get me on this because they
wanted to go in another direction. And she was like, no,
he has done this, this and this for us, y'all

(09:16):
need to give back, right, this is the opportunity where
you're paying this opportunity Like he didn't, he didn't get
paid before, and he did this things for free on
his own dime, and y'all had the money, but he
just chose to do it for the look and now
y'all are gonna pay somebody, You're gonn choose somebody else.
And we sit in front of this man every week. No,
and she went to back for me in three meetings

(09:38):
for me to go in this thing. So let me
tell you, if this were you and your best friend
was in the box, if I was in that box.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
What are you doing? I think it's unfair. They bro
don't do that.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
No, no, no, you can't compare our friendship to your friendship
to GEO rest in peace. Like I have nothing bad
to say about y'all friendship, but I think it's safe
to say that we're closer, and it's also safe to
say that.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
He was y'all.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
Relationship wasn't a strange but y'all wasn't like close in
the last eighteen years.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Right.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
So I have a best friend from childhood that passed
away like ten years ago. You remember Smoothie, And at the
time he passed, we weren't like at ours, but we
wasn't on the same page. We didn't speaking every day.
So I made it to his services. But if I didn't,
it wouldn't have been the same as like my current
best friend passed. Somebody that is like active in my

(10:37):
life right now. Not to say that, you know, I'm
not trying to compare lives and stuff like that, like
this is I feel like I'm going down the attacking.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
None I agree with you, understand what I said.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
I'm trying to say, like you know, there's always levels
to friendships and brotherhood and how close you are with somebody.
And I would say, if you miss the services, maybe
there's something else that you could do, like I know
we're going to the balloon tribute later today, like something
else where you could pay your respects. And at the
end of the day, as long as you pay your respects,
it doesn't matter what day it is. And you know

(11:12):
what format right. And even to add to that is,
how can somebody tell you how to grieve or how
to pay your respects?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,
I get the optics of you not being at the funeral.
I get that, But like at the end of the day,
like for instance, he said, you're going to do a
balloon tribute today, that's your that's your way of paying
your respects.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
You I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
And let's not forget about the fact that they changed
the date. I think that's the most important part. The
date was changed because because.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
I was flying in Atlanta to go to the one
in Atlanta, right, and then they canceled it. I was
going to book paid a thousand dollars to fly down
there and come back the same day afterwards. And when
I was I literally had whatever fucking flight in front
of me, and I called the brother and he's like, no,
they canceled it. And I'm like, well, right here we are.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
At least you tried, you know what I'm saying. It's
still guilt though, it's still there's gonna be some there,
and that's natural. That's one natural. Can you really say
it is Laddie?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Right?

Speaker 6 (12:13):
First of all, we have Laddie Glady Gladdy. Sorry, it's
just hard by bad glady, Russian Gladys.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Haitian? What is that?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah? I would say Haitian?

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah. Here from the Toxic with Benefits podcast?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you have another show now? Actually I'm actually building
another show from the ground up called Whiskey Balls. Whiskey Balls.
Whiskey Balls?

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Is that like whiskey Dick?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Even I didn't think about it that way, but no,
how did you think about it so that that was
going to pass? So basically, what happened is my birthday
was in July recently, right, so twenty first, So uh,
my girlfriend and she got me a really nice bottle

(13:01):
of whiskey. And you know, you know a lot of
times you want to drink and whiskey chilled and you
don't want to use ice because the ice with water
down the whiskey. So she got me whiskey balls. There
are these metal balls that you put in freezer and
they stayed frozen for hours. So so I was like, damn,
this is this is a cool concept. So then I
thought I needed another podcast podcast. I wanted to do

(13:22):
something slightly different from what I'm doing now. And I
was like, you know what, drinking whiskey, we'll get people
to open up. So I was like, you know, I
want to have a podcast where we talk about pop
culture while sipping whiskey, right, and you know, we'll talk
about the whiskey itself and talk about you know, origins
and ship like that in the beginning, and then we'll
go into our topics. So then I thought whiskey balls.

(13:42):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Very creative? So very creative got a whiskey ball there.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
I actually have some Oh yeah, yeah, I can give
you I have maybe six what's up man?

Speaker 7 (13:55):
And I said, oh, ship, what's up? You got them
on deck? Like I know you had a Yeah, I
don't really use him, so, you know. And it was
this fan right here, he never turned it on.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Can you just hit the button on that? Yes? Kind
of kind of hot in him.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
She's Gladdy.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
What I was going to say is, recently I went
to a funeral and one of the family members, the sons,
didn't come mm hmmm, yeah. And he it was that
he was supposedly grieving and he was just going through
too much at the time. But a lot of his

(14:38):
siblings felt the way that he didn't. He didn't go
like there was like some resentment in the air every
time his name comes up. Oh is the yo? People
grieve their only way, their own way. Is that really
a valid excuse to miss somebody like your parents.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's a valid excuse to those that understand it, you know,
I don't think it's a vale excuse those that don't. Right,
And then we forget about things that like, for instance,
we don't talk we don't talk about the journey enough, right,
We don't talk about the journey enough, right? How did
they get to the point where he didn't show up
at the funeral. It may not just be to death.

(15:16):
It may be the relationship he has with his brother's
relationship and he may have with someone else. You never know,
like there's a journey there, Like you don't just get
to the point where you don't show up to a funeral,
right unless the grieving is really that hard that he
really can't be in anyone's face at the moment.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think that people who are selfish and judging and
they don't value other people's experiences and how they choose
to do things like I had a funeral to go
to Friday, and I decided at the last minute not
to go. Well, I woke up and decided not to go,
and as someone that in my life story there was

(15:55):
a ten year spand that I went to a funeral
every single year. My friends know, like God forbid, if
y'all die tomorrow, don't even I'm not coming. I'm not coming.
That's not how I choose to grieve, that's not how
I choose to celebrate the life of people that I love.
And I just for me, it's too much emotionally, and

(16:20):
I just choose not to go. And that doesn't make
me a bad person. That doesn't make me less of
a friend. It doesn't.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
This is my planning now not to.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'll docket no matter when it happens.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
I'm not going like I can't even I can't not
go to prepare for it.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm not going to structure myself.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Like there's a large, large percentage that I'm dead ass
not gonna go fight about it now.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I figured you was going to do that anyway, and
that's what I'm saying, Like there is there is levels
to grief. As someone that I was forced to go
to my mother's funeral, like, I was not going like
they put me in that car, kicking and screaming. They
was like, you have to go, it's your I don't

(17:08):
have to do shit. This is not This is not
how I process things. This does not make me feel better.
I'm not one of those people like I went so
I have the closure. No, Actually, that shit put me
in a deeper depression having to be there. Everybody does
things differently, and as I said to you on the phone,

(17:32):
there are a lot of different things that happened that
were outside of your control. If you could be there.
You would be there, but life still has to happen.
And on top of that, the balloon release, as we said,
that is a way to celebrate. You've already been reconnecting
with people, reconnecting with the family. You went to the
candlelight visual, You've done a lot of things. God forbid.

(17:55):
If you miss one part of the ten part celebration,
you're not a person. And thinking about Trump's point, there
are so many funerals that I went to that I
wish I didn't go to because that is my last
memory of that person, and I don't want that to
be the last memory of that person. Like the first

(18:20):
dead body I saw was my grandfather, And I have
so many memories of my grandfather, but that memory of
them putting a sheet on him and wheeling him down
the hallway, that's still etched in my brain, and I
wish I was never there. I wish I did not
see that, because that's not I don't want that in
my memory bank of when I think about my grandfather.

(18:41):
So that's the me thing. Everybody does things differently, But
don't beat yourself up because you can't be everywhere, right.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Do you think the dodge is valid?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
For planning to be absent at my funeral.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
I respect everybody's process how they deal with grief and
all that, but you know, on the flip side, I
feel like, you know, got to be there for our people,
and got to be there for our friends that are living,
the other friends, and there's something about solidarity and showing

(19:17):
up and everybody being there, and then that one person
that ain't there kind of sticks out. It's like, you know,
this is a really good time for us to all
be together and come as a unit as a family,
So when one or two people ain't there, it's kind
of noticeable. So right, that doesn't take away from any
Dodger's points, like grief hits people differently, and what you

(19:37):
remember and your experiences that affects you in a way
where it may not affect me. So who might be like, yo,
you should have been there, you know what I mean?
But I will say like, yeah, you know, it's just
one of those things, like it's a good show of
faith and solidarity to be there in those times, you know,
with your people.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
So who is it for.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
The people?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Who is it for?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Though?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Like, so it's performative, So I have to put myself
in a in a mental deficit to show up in
solidarity for people that if you really my friend, you
understand Yo.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Let me yo.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
I don't want to take this left because I still
want to hear yesterday and glad you have to say
about this.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
But Dosh, you often speak about.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
The difference in our generations, right, I feel like your
generation is just in the business of dismantling everything.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's like, we don't.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Give a fuck about none of the structure that was
here before. We don't give a fuck about none of
the traditions, your legends suck everything.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Everything is bullshit, yes, but it's like, is that even
a healthy way? Like what are y'all doing? You're just
kicking the door down and just living and.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Just debris and just making your own reality out of
debreed that we like, Yo, that.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I say culture because y'all don't want to do nothing.
That's why.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
That's why it's fucked up, because everything that we said
that you had to do, you're like, no, why do
I have to do that?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't have to, But there has to be some structure.
There has to be something.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
What is this structure? And that's the problem, right, y'all?
Live in this space of feeling like you have to
abide by these quote unquote rules. And y'all niggas are
the most depressed, the most emotionally in intelligent, fucking group
of people because y'all always putting other things and other
people before your own mental health. That's the fucking real problem.

(21:39):
If you want to be technical, y'all would put your
own mental health in jeopardy to show up to just
be in a picture or just to say that you
were there. How is that beneficial to you?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think too, the way that she broke that down. Yes,
and I'm glad yo.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yes, yes, we was on dodge ass last week or
two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I just won't to let y'all know anybody.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Here and that.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
But I think that you're breaking that down. The celebration
of life when you come together with Famis's death, it's
a celebration of life.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I mean, that's I guess. It's a then line.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
You could you could look at it cup half full,
cup half empty. You can do it either way, right,
But no celebration of death is crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's exactly no.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
This nigga was this for me, yo. He was there
for me all the time. I will never forget those days.
I am here to celebrate with the rest of the
people that he affected. In this way, that's a celebration
of life. It's it's really.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Both, and it's both because at that funeral you're celebrating death.
That's they're just talking about death. When you get to
the repass and all that, that's life, right, And I
think I think, just to piggyback on something she said,
whereas you know that last vision of the person, right,
I go to funerals, but I don't go to the
cask at all. I literally will not go to hate

(23:00):
that you can get a good job, yeah, person, doesn't.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know what I hate when people take pictures of
the dead person like you're talking about you talking about
y'all traditions. Y'all niggas is weird. Y'all niggas are fucking weird. Bro.
I watched somebody literally go up to a casket with
the phone on the dead person's body, facetimed somebody else.
I swear to God, like, I'm not nah son you
talking about like these celebrations. I know y'all saw that

(23:27):
fucking family. I think they was in Chicago or whatever.
They had that dead nigga propped up on a chair,
and everybody's sitting around taking pictures with the dead, like,
come the fuck on, Like, don't piss me off. My
mental health is more important than all that ship, and
I know that my ship is hanging on by a threat.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
That ship might have made me smile, though I might
have been, I might have cracked up at the ridiculousness
of it.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm serious. They put a hendy bottle in this nigga.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
That nigga was sitting like that nigga was standing up
on something like come on, son, like I'll catch you
a the repass. Wee can we could talk, we can eat,
we can share food or whatever. But no, I don't
want to sit here listening to these sadass ons. No,
I don't want y'all all coming up giving y'all personal speech.
Halfy y'all lying anyway, talking about what great of a
person everybody was, and y'all never going to tell the
truth because you can't tell the truth. I watched the

(24:17):
fucking video of a bitch that tried to fucking lick
the dick of her baby fall though in the cat
what do y'all celebrate? That's exactly what she said.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
I just wanted to see it one last time yesterday.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
You're here listening to all of these sad nuts.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeall.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
But I don't know, Like, like I said, everybody's different
with nick grieving process. I could speak for myself. I
can see everybody else, But for me personally, I think
there's a level of I think, just respect of the
friendship and of the relationship right to show up to
those types of things right. And I understand people saying, like,
you know, you're celebrating the death, but I think from me,

(25:01):
I've had so many people in my life that raised me,
that are close to me, that have been killed, that
have died instantly, and I couldn't imagine myself not going
to their funeral right, And even though I had to
see them in very bad positions, I feel like, you know,
I was with you throughout life, and I seen you
at your best right, so I'm not gonna not see

(25:23):
you at your worst, right. And I feel like when
you love somebody, you got to show up for them
in that type of way, even when it's hard, even
when you don't want to even to dodge point, even
when it's at a cult mental deficit to you because
you're not just showing up for them, but you're showing
up for the family, You're showing up for the spirit.
Like So, like I said, everybody's different. So, like I said,

(25:43):
I like I understand why some people don't go because
some people cannot handle it, you get what I'm saying. So,
but I feel like if you can go, that's something
that I always feel like you should always really really
try to do because there's been plenty of times where
people have passed and you know, I regret it every
single day that I wasn't able to see them off.
Like so it just really depends on, like, you know,

(26:03):
what you're comfortable with living with for real, right, And
I mean valid points, right, I hear if you can't
or if you can, But what if I don't want to?
Because that's I think that's the most valid thing. What
if I don't want to go? What if I just
don't want to go? What if I don't want to

(26:24):
see this person like that? Because honestly, the friendship is
about the bond between he and I, not between he
and I and his family, right, It's about he and I.
If we had an understanding that we loved each other, like,
this is my guy. Right, he probably died knowing that
I was his guy. That's all that matters, you know

(26:44):
what I'm saying. And I get the performative aspect of it,
and I get shown up for the family. Because odds are,
if you're if that's your best friend, you have a
certain kinship with their family, right, I get that one
d per But you can be there in so many
different ways because people go to the funeral and do
all this boohooing and then don't reach out to the family,
don't reach out at the family again after thatt like
this is the time where they need you the most.

(27:06):
When the funeral is done, and then idle time kicks in,
all the shit kicks in, and now you're not there.
That's the time for you to really be there. That
funeral shit. They will forget about you not being at
a funeral if you continue to be there as that
that that that pseudo family member right keeping them comfort, right,
showing up because odds are, if you're the best friend,

(27:27):
you will remind them of their son. Right, So when
you pop up to family events, when you pop up
to birthdays or send flowers randomly to them. They will remember, oh,
this is my son's best friend, this is my my
nephew's best friend, Like he's still here for us. They're
not going to remember the fact that you didn't come
to the funeral. That's a great point.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
So, yeah, you know you're gonna say something. Yeah, I mean,
I totally respect what you said, Graddy. And a friend
of mine says like, I don't go to funerals, and
he was like, you know, I just he was like,
I don't like going to funeral.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I was like, he likes going to funerals though.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
So to say like I don't want to go part
and no disrespect, I'm just kind of just for argument's sake.
As an adult. Part of being an adult is doing
things that you may not want to do but you
feel like maybe the right thing to do. And who
wants to go to funerals? Right, So but my question

(28:25):
y'all is how do y'all feel about like visiting friends
in the hospital or in jail stuff like that. It's
just the same sentiments, same, not the same sentiments exactly,
not for me, Like that person's alive, So when I
go there, that person's going to appreciate me for being there.
Like again, once that person's dead, they can't appreciate me
being there.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
The hospital is way worse than the funeral.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're trying to figure out something. She's like, beep, keep.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
You uplift somebody's spirits and they can help.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Jail you lost me, I answered, I'll answer the jail calls,
but like going there, go to jail. Well, my friends
that are in jail. I am not your emergency contact.
I'm still say I'm dead. Asked about that, I'll do
it if I feel like it, but don't call me back.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You don't have no loyalty to nothing.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I know I have. I have loyalty to me the
things that I value, me to the things that I value,
and my values might be differently aligned than other people.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Know.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
I do not show up to jail visits. But I
will answer phone calls, I will read letters, and I
will write back. I will do that.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
But again, okay, fiftieth birthday parties.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Shut you didn't have a fiftieth birthday party. Shut the
fuck up. This is what I'm gonna say. And you
know what, You're not too far off when you say
that like it's about me, because it is about me
and I'm gonna and I'm gonna say this, and I
don't really give a fuck. Like there were times in
my life that I put my thoughts, feelings, emotions, and

(30:07):
mental health to the side to be there for other people,
and then I had to dig myself back up out
of that hole. I am not in the position, and
nor am I at the place in my life that
I'm willing to disrupt what I've worked so hard to
build just for optics. I fuck with you. You're my friend,

(30:28):
so yes, I will show up too. I will answer
that phone call, I will have a conversation with you,
I will send the pictures and I'll do all the things.
But it does not help me in any way to
see my friend in prison. That hurts me. I don't
want to see that. So no, I'm not going to

(30:48):
show up. So sorry, but you're my friend. You should
know when it comes to the hospital, that's the one
thing that I will grit and bear and like do
only if you're one of those people that like people
to visit you in the hospital, because some people are
not that. Again, thinking about my own traumas and there's
so many of them in such a short period of time.

(31:10):
Hospital equals death to me automatically, I don't even like
going to the hospital. I have to be bleeding out
to go to somebody's ear bleeding out. I'll go to
the doctor, but the hot the emergency, nigga, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Know, like hemorrhage. We moved and you spend the night
and yeah, right there, it's all of these excuses to
stay with her husband here, Like I don't want to
go to where I say something crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
But you know, you know what I do value since
we're since this is where we're trying to go. I
value birthdays. You know I value showing up.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was I was my life. I was fifty birthday
to celebrate, and you did not come. I didn't get
no gift, nothing.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
I did go to your surprise birthday party that you
made for yourself.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
There.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I commanded it. I demanded it. I actually asked y'all
to plan it, and I said, I show up.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
I show up.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
You didn't show it to my fiftieth. You didn't.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
You was on a fucking cruise. Are you done?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Party? It was a play party.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
I don't know what the fucking freak party go.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
To all the other ones? You could tell me. We
could go to dinner. But you did not take me
to dinner.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Do you want me to take you to? No? Fuck you?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
We can't try.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Where's my spy?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I didn't get it yet, stupid. When I get it,
you'll get it. But but but you still ain't called
Parking for her birthday back in February.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I literally just seventeen pot so that she win. She won.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
She don't know that. You ain't nothing. Oh yes you wanted,
but because of me too. You ain't never call that
little baby for her birthday. You haven't come to see
your niece that you love so much. You was across
the street from my house and didn't come to my
house that I've lived at now for two years. So
I can say a lot of fuck you your fiftieth birthday.
Then canceled out my thirty six fuck you see you

(33:20):
at fifty one.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Dodge can't fix your Sorry, I'm gonna like the wire.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Punk as she came out, Yes it was Wait, let
me reiterate, fuck you.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yes, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
So that's a good one. Punk As.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yesterday spoke on uh.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Being there for friends, being there even if you don't
want to ship like that, right.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
And.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I have this clip. Hmm.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
You know, you know Trump said, yo, you have y'all
wasn't you know seeing each other? Y'all wasn't on the
same page for a while, And a lot of the
involvement of the streets fucked up my life, right, But
at the same time, that's kind of where I was.
I was fucking my ship up regards like I went
to college, fucked my shit up.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I went to great high school fuh up.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Like I was gonna.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I was determined.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
To fuck my ship up because I can't really blame
it on nobody else, right, But then I fucked up
lives around me too.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
M hm.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
So I'm gonn I'm gonna play this clip first, and
then I'm gonna ask Trom a question.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's gonna be an interesting question. I can't wait to
see what he says. Let's see.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Who were ranged just like you?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
If not said.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Come on, lady, come on, n I feel like you
should hang around people who were raised just like you,
if not similar to you. Because the more I get older,
I realized that a lot of these adults were really.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Just children with no supervision.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
They're just children who were never given the proper care
or attention, and now they're adults who we have to
roam the earth with. And it's like, if you hang
around someone who wasn't raised like you, you're gonna always
have to explain why you're not finna do something, why
you're not about to go there?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Who's over there?

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Whoa Okay, well, what time is it gonna end? What
time is it gonna start? Like living with restrictions and
not even living with restrictions, but growing up with guidelines
will make you. It makes you a more like aware
adult in a sense.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
And I've realized that a lot of.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
These adults were just children who grew up with no guidelines.
So now there are adults who definitely have no guidelines.
And you just save yourself so much energy, in words,
by not hanging out with people who weren't raised like you, period,
point blank. Like the people who were raised like me,
we have a ball. I don't ever have to over
explain myself. I don't ever have to do much. But

(36:00):
it's always the people who I wasn't who is evident like, yeah,
we weren't raised the same, Those are the ones that
always got to over explain myself. With and it's like, yeah,
you've got to get up off my time because you're annoying.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
What do you think, Gladdy?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Ye see, I'm Gladdy. I'm sorry. I see you making
this face.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I don't know, man, I I hear it, I understand it,
but I don't like it. Right. I think with me
in general, like I grew up with, I would say,
a diverse group of guys as far as how they
were raised and the things that they were restricted from
were those that had no restrictions. And I feel like
ultimately it kind of molded who I am in a sense. Right.

(36:40):
I was able to be and hang out with the
guys that were considered squares, right, and I was also
able to hang out with the guys that were in
the street right comfortably both sides, right. So like like you, well,
I don't know if you exposed this, but myself, I've
been in trouble in the past, Like I spent some
time in jail, right, I don't know if I would

(37:01):
be able to maneuver in jail if I didn't have
that certain level of hood mentality that I've gotten from
hood guys. You see what I'm saying. I was able
to understand hood politics because of them, right, And on
the flip side, I'm able to come here and articulate
myself and articulate these things in a way that's palatable
to everyone. Right. So I feel like that it is

(37:28):
creating a group of people that have no grit, you know.
They they're they're quick to give up on things and say, no,
I'm not gonna do that because it's going to affect
this and that not not don't know, shots don't point out,
but I feel like it's it's really taken away from that.
And I do get the aspect of mental because I'm

(37:48):
a I'm a very very strong advocate for mental health
on air, and I just want everybody think of the
ratings but counted over there. But but yeah, I think
they're losing a certain level of grit that we had
from from my generation. Like I'm considered what generation X

(38:11):
I think and right after Baby Boomers whatever the after
Baby Boomers think that's what I am, right, So millennials,
So what's what's the generation I think of X? I
think the generation I was one of seventy nine at
the end of the day. So what I'm saying is
like I'm able to see both sides and see why

(38:34):
this is happening here and why things happen the way
they did back in the day. And I understand that
it does affect your mental health when you're just saying,
you know, I'm just gonna grin and bear it, right,
But I think everything is you have to pick and
choose what you choose to grin and bear at the
end of the day. Right. That that that's what I
am advocating for. But you can't avoid everything that you

(38:55):
have to grin and bear through. You have to build
that level of grit. It's like catching the common cold,
never catching it, right, You never caught the common cold.
But when you do that, shit fucks you up because
your body is not used to it.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It's like a shock to your system. Right. You want
to prevent that shock to your system when it does
occur again. Right. If somebody's yelling outside, I'm not gonna
automatically think that it's it's it's a danger. Right, I'm
gonna understand the type of yelling it is. They might
just be talking shit, playing dominoes, you know what I'm saying.
So if I'm not used to that, like, you know,

(39:28):
it's gonna sound different. You drop a white guy in
the middle of a domino game, They're like, what the.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Can forget about it? Right, They're gonna call it a right,
and yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I feel like
I think we're in a society where people choose to
withdraw from everything, just staying inside and not touch grass.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
God, go ahead, he's calling us foolish.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
What you want?

Speaker 6 (39:53):
I want to know if you think that people should
indeed hang out with people that grew up like then.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
I think, to Gladdy's point, yes you should, But I
also think that there was a point where you get
to choose the type of people that you wanna hang
out with. I am a person that I have always
been well versed in different people. I was the kid
that heyo yesterday, I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Myfore, I'm trying to get you a mic, right, yeah,
shit off, Victo.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
No, I just wanna to know what he be doing
back then, because because you're not cause she cause you're yere.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I'm looking at the the audio. I can't do I
can't look two places at the same time.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Am I good? Just talk talking talking?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yes, alright, cool, okay, I was the kid in high
school that I could sit at any lunch table, like
I could just bounce around the lunch table when I
can hang out with everybody, and it was never a problem.
I had friends from many walks of life. And what
I've realized is a lot of my hood friends that
didn't wanna leave the hood. We can't really be friends

(41:01):
anymore because I don't. I don't want to have these experiences,
like I don't want to sit on a block with y'all.
I don't want to go to the hood spots and
then have to worry about if it's gonna a fight
going and break out, or if somebody gonna get shot outside.
Like I cultivate my life, and I think that that

(41:21):
is important. I'm not a square. I can't maneuver in
any space. But at this time in my life, I
have discernment and I choose not to deal with a
lot of shit and a lot of types of people.
But can I of course do I want to?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
No, I don't.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
So it's a very interesting clipping point. I never heard
anybody like publicly make that point. But I remember being
in high school and like cats I was friends with,
was like cutting school like I was cutting school too,
we always, but they was cutting school like with no repercussions.
They didn't have no curfew. They was out late at night,

(42:01):
going to clubs and stuff at a young age. And
I was like, damn, I wish I could do that,
you know what I mean? I wish I could hang
out just smoke weed in the city two in the
morning on a school night. But now it's like, as
you get older, you like, these niggas had no supervision,
and it's like, damn, did they have anybody that really
loved them and helped mold them. And as they became adults,

(42:24):
you could see they're a little bit more lost in
life than we were. Right, So in that regard, I
can understand the lady's point in the video in the clip,
but it's like, Yo, when you connect with somebody, it
don't matter what their family structure is. The first day
me and Tahoe met, we clicked just on some kindred
spiritshit like on some sense. We had the same sense

(42:45):
of humor. We was laughing at the same shit that
other people didn't get in the room, and it was like, Yo,
we connected. And then it's like, yeah, I know niggas
that grew up with both parents and similar households to me,
but we just ain't on the same And like Tahoe
is one of, if not the most stand up thingger
I know, right, So.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
He is solid.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
If you solid and we shared the same moral compass,
then woul We're good. I'm going what you know what
type of household you grew up in?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (43:16):
So when you speak about being solid, I must admit
I wish that you could listen to the episode because
after listening back to it, I felt bad. There was
a time when I spoke about you and I hanging
out and dudes came to the crib, said somebody was

(43:39):
around the corner trying to rob me, and you offered
to go with me excuse me, And I was like, nah,
I got to handle this on my own. And I
went and dropped you off on gates, right, you know
what I'm talking about. And I went and handled my business.

(44:00):
And in that I said, that's the difference between trauma
and I because I would have went.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Now.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
I said more about it because I said, Yo, there's
self awareness is key. He offered to come with his friend,
but he's not going to force himself to go into
a situation that's dangerous that he didn't put. You know,
this isn't his life, right, So I did say all that,
but I do I want to apologize for saying that

(44:29):
because I think that you would have wanted to be
there for me if I would have let you. But
I think I was adamant, like nah, broke no, And
I think you asked me more than once, like yo,
you sure you're.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Sure keep a good boys in the hood, right, Yo?
Let me off the car?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, don't let me out. Do you feel that place
that comes from a place of love though, because it's
like you you know that this is not his lifestyle.
It was no, no, no, yeah, So yeah, that's what I'm saying,
so like it came from a place a lot. But
so I don't see a reason for you.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
But the reason I'm apologized is because you feel like
you made him sound like a punk.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
No no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I think I think in that episode.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
I think in that episode, I think in the episode,
when I listened back, I was like, yo, there was
self awareness that he knew that was in life. I
knew that wasn't his life. And I knew what I
had created for myself. This is the ship that I created.
I didn't want to go out there either, so I'm
gonna bring this nigga.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I did it. I told them niggas when they came.
They came here.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It was like it was.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Niggaround the corner.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Try.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
My other friend was just about to rob me, and
I was like, well, I'm staying in the crib. But
something inside of me, my ego, my pride, whatever, was like, nah,
I gotta go over there.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Fuck that.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
And this nigga was like, yo, all right, let's go,
and I was like, no, you can't. This is dangerous.
They got guns. I gotta go handle this myself. I'll
call you later, you know whatever. So I'm apologizing on
two pts, two parts because when I started this conversation,
I said, I fuck other people's lives. Right when I
got to Hampton University, something about where I was and

(46:04):
as a boy.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Is not really having.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
I just needed to attach myself to this stigma, the
street stigma.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I needed. I needed that.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
I needed that I was part of that young group
of niggas that go to college and get themselves kicked out,
or they walk around wanting to fight everybody.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Oh, I'm from New York.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
I'm from New York, right that I was in that group,
the stupid ass the stupid nigga's.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Like, yo, you're paying.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
To go outside, Like you can't be a thug and
a student. I tell people this all the time, Like
you can't be a gangster in a uniform. Like I
just want you all to like get your ship, to
getgether up.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
So and trauma.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
His brother.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Still loving me from you know, growing up, Right, I
had lived with them for a while and everything. They
came to hang out with me one day and I
stolen somebody. So this whole ass fire. I think we
all got kicked out of school, try and got away
because he wasn't going to that school, but me his
older brother all got expelled. We all got expelled, right,

(47:10):
he got expelled, Right, We all got expelled, expelled. And
I only went to that school because his brother was there,
and because me and my behavior, I got his older
We had.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Nothing to do with it. He was just there because
of me. He had He wasn't even hanging out.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
With the niggas, and I got him expelled, right, And
so I look at it, and I say, damn. When
I was listening to this clip and I posted this
thing about self awareness today on Facebook, and I was
just like, yo.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Maybe he wasn't even supposed to be hanging out with me. Maybe.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
Was there ever a time when you looked and said, yo, e,
this nigga's going down the dark path?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I really shouldn't be here, And did you override that?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
There was a lot of time.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Let me tell you that was perfect.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
It was a good stretch of time where we still
lived a couple of blocks away from each other, and
we just wasn't We had separate lives, and we both
spoken and unspoken. We acknowledge that. And it's like, Yo,
I see you. I'm happy to see you. Stop in
the corner and say what's up. I'm not staying on

(48:36):
the corner as long as everybody else is, you know
what I mean. I know it's my time to go,
you know what I mean? And you know, part of
it hurt me because I'm like, this nigga's going down
a dangerous path. I don't want to see where it's going.
But it's also, like, like you said, it was kind
of like it was your path it was you. It
was where you're leading to. You had to see this
play out, you know what I mean. So I couldn't

(48:57):
do much from the other side, but I also knew
enough to kind of separate myself from that life.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
My question is, did you ever try to tell them?

Speaker 7 (49:09):
I feel like we did, but not. I feel like
we've had those conversations, but it wasn't like yo, bro,
Like I ain't never sit them down, like had an
intervention like yo, you know, I need you to get
off the streets.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
But I'm sure we've had those conversations. Do you remember.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
I don't think it was nothing like that, but it
was always like yo, come hang out, just trying to
take you into a different Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Pull up.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Oh yeah, we're doing the club over there, like you
could lead a corner, come over here.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
I think that that also is a testament to y'all
generation that y'all just don't say the words that I
feel like needs to be said, like y'all kind of
pussy foot around it out of respect or care or whatever.
Because I had a friend at one point that we
had a conversation and she told me how she like

(49:57):
beats somebody up. This was like maybe five six years ago,
and I was like, bitch, why are you still fighting,
like because the person disrespect me. I'm like, you sound
stupid as fuck, like this is dumb. We're fucking thirty
and you still outside fighting over what because somebody did

(50:18):
something that you don't like. You still don't have the
wherewthal to walk away. I said, I want you to
know that if I was there, I would have left
your ass and if you would have got your ass whoop,
you would have got your ass whoop. Because at this
point you gotta fuck like grow up.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I think that's a girl guy thing more than a
generational thing.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I think it's both.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I think, but to the the the uh girls kind
of like saying what she said, like basically doing that
action right there, Like basically like guys hold we hold
each other accountable to a lot. But I think in
those situations women are more likely to go. You know,
I'm leaving out. I don't want to part no parts

(50:57):
of the ship, but with me, I can't leave my
guy if something is happening, I can't because there's so
many but there's so many but there's so many things behind,
Like I remember, like I had this is this is
the same weekend I came home from jail, same weekend.

(51:18):
They wanted to go out. I was like, cool, I'll
go out right. So, long story short. One of the
guys that went with us, while I was in the bathroom,
he got slapped in the face and he wore glasses.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Like, all right, you finished the story. Why would you
ever hang out with somebody that's getting slapped.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
So again, I just came home, so people just I
think I think people just wanted to be around me
because it was it was like it was seventeen of us, right,
and this is Caribbean City. I don't know if you
guys know that club, but it was in Caribbean City.
So I go to the bathroom and I'm all my
way back and I see a crowd go like like
a wave, like a movement. So I get there and

(52:05):
my man said, you, I think Walter just got slapped.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
I was like, it was Walter and he had glasses right,
so he was he pulled asking for a slap.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Bro, Sorry sorry Walter. Sorry. So he pulls up to
me with both sides of glasses. I was like, yo, bro,
what you're gonna do? And he's like, Yo, what are
you going to do? What do you want to do?
I like, in my head, like based on him asked
me that question, I get pissed, so yo, who did it?
So he walked over there and I clocked the guy
that did it, and then you know, bumble and suits,
but just goes it just goes to say, like I

(52:37):
can't leave my guys in the trenches, Like even though
there are times where I started situations, but there are
times where situations seem to be coming towards us as
a group, and I can't be like, you know what,
I'm going to leave because you have some static. We're
going to handle the static, right. But what I really
wanted to say is like, based on that video, right,

(53:00):
you look at the friendship between YouTube, right, whereas you
guys were really close, you kind of separated a little bit,
and look at you guys now. So that's why I'm
against what she's saying in that video, because like, you
don't have to be in the same walks of life
to build something beautiful when it comes to a friendship. Right,
you were able to grow out of what you were
dealing with in that in that in that time period, right,
and you became what he's calling a stand up guy, right,

(53:23):
So there's no real reason to totally cut people off
when they're not living the life that are you're living,
depending on the life that they're living, obviously, but when
you're able to redeem yourself in someone else's eyes and
become and not become, but to build something beautiful like
what you guys have, like you can't, you can't, like

(53:44):
the proof is in the pudding, like I.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Think I reject. I think I reject that notion only
because Tahoe wasn't raised to be a street and again
he put himself in a position. But your morals and
your values, your standards that those are what like allowed
you to be able to pivot out of that. Y'all

(54:08):
were raised more alike than different. You just decided to
go left and then you were able to go right.
Some people that were not raised with certain morals, values
and standards, it's very difficult for them to actually make
that pivot. They have to do a lot of deep
rooted life work to get there, and some people have

(54:30):
the patience for it and some people don't.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
But to that to that point, a lot of people
are raised to be raised correctly. Nobody is really choosing
to raise their kids the wrong way, Like I would say,
I would say, I get that, but I know that
the parents didn't say, you know what, I'm gonna have
a baby, so you could be a wiat they're not

(54:55):
doing that what I'm saying, they probably weren't. They probably
weren't equipped to raise them the right way. Yes, right,
So that's one thing versus saying, you know, I'm raising
my kids to be fucked up right now, if you're
doing messed up things around your kids, like if you're
gang banging, you got tattoos on your face like that,
I get right, And we're gonna have a lot of
grandparents and tattoos on their face really soon. Right. So

(55:17):
my thing is, again, people change all the time. Like
you have two people on the couch, but you got
like I know, you were pretty much straight and narrow like,
and you dabbled in that light because of him his fault, right,
But you have two people on the couch right now
that literally change their lives around and have been in
rooms with great people, you know, and we're able to

(55:37):
carry conversations in those rooms. And I think that when
you totally write somebody off, you could be missing out
on something great in the future, Like now you can
distance yourself. I get that, this is yourself. Like you know,
this person's in the hood right now, I don't want
to be there. I'm not going there, but I will
invite him out to me over here, right, show him

(55:58):
something different. Right. But I think ultimately, I don't think
we should write people off because of how they were raised.
It's not like they didn't choose their families.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
I hate inviting hood bitches, well used to hate inviting
hood bitches to the other side. And you know, all
you wanna do is fucking embarrassment when you get there.
If you're gonna say something stupid, we're gonna order a
glass on wine and you're gonna be mad that the
glass isn't filled up to the brim. And now I
gotta look at you. Crazy, you're talking to the ways,
just crazy, You're ordering a well done steak, you saying
salmon like nah, fuck that. I gotta keep you where

(56:28):
you at discernment.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
But who's But what I'm saying is who's gonna I mean,
it's not our job, right, who's gonna Who's gonna teach him?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Though?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Like I remember I was the well done, steak guy.
I was the well done State guy. Well done state yesterday.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Don't kiss me off.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I went to Benny Honah one day and I had
to go to the bathroom, so I was like, yo,
order my foot. I told him what I wanted, and
he choose chose to not order it well done, and
I was gonna have him put it backward. He's like, yo,
just try, just try, just try. I was like, I
tried it. I was like, oh, and it's not only
about the chewing, it's the taste, Like the flavor is

(57:07):
the met.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
The juice is busting up.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
Henshaw Dodge was speaking about the generations, right. She speaks
a lot about generations, and before last week were supposed
to recall last week. I wasn't able to get it
together for whatever reason. Obviously, I had a topic that
I wanted to bring up, and it's been going around

(57:32):
a lot Martin. People have been now calling out Martin
for the way that he spoke to Pam and about
Pam on the show.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
I have several clips.

Speaker 6 (57:49):
That I could play, but Van Lathan is one that
I came across and I was like, all right, basically
you kind of get the gist of everything in this
Van Lathen clip.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Right, So let's let's talk about it.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Let's see what.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
Shows like Martin and shows like Living Single, they assume
a cultural safety that we do not and cannot assume anymore.
So a lot of times, if you are in amongst
a group of black people, jokes like that flyin and
so when you're watching it on TV, you understand the.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Joke, Oh my god, what did I do?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Kind of the dynamic that exists.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
But man, since we have been told about the specific
dangers of every type of speech, we have gone back
and been like, maybe we weren't so safe. Maybe there
was never that type of safety. Maybe it doesn't exist,
Maybe it's a figment of our imagination.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
It's just hardened to it, we're just used to it.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
Or maybe there was a time that we just let
some shit go, all of the stuff. There was so
much stuff back in the day that just assumed that
we were.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Okay when we were together.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
And I think that we're starting to go, well, maybe
we're not. Maybe we never were, we're certainly not today.
Maybe there were always these terrible, ridiculous bad actors, and
Martin had an entrenched hatred for black women, and that's
why he was taking it out on Pam because women
feel like now, Black women feel like now that there's

(59:23):
an entrenched, psychological underlying hatred for them that black men
have displayed over the last and it's actually presenting itself
as jokes when there's.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Something under there.

Speaker 9 (59:35):
So we're now going back and asking all of these
questions when that's definitely a possibility. But then there was
also a possibility they were just playing with.

Speaker 10 (59:43):
Each other and kind of adswer that. He said Pam
had beady beats. We never saw a bead be you
know what I mean. That's what he called her. He
said Pam was a beast, and all that Pam was beautiful,
like we never saw all those things. He was making
specific attacks against her that are only particular two black women,
or stereotypes specifically towards black women. But yes, yes, but okay,

(01:00:07):
I mean, I don't like the word nappy, But yes,
I understand what you're saying. But my point is it
was it was based on race.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
I guess it's my point. It was particular to what
she looked like.

Speaker 10 (01:00:16):
As as a black woman. Really, I feel like he
played into stereotypes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Of a black woman I'm not serious, you didn't play.

Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
I don't think he hated her because, to me, outside
of their joking, Pam was the ship. I didn't feel
that way watching her. I understood it. I didn't feel
that way, so I don't. I never looked at it
like and I still don't. Oh, this is a part
of black men hating black women. I still don't look at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
It like that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:41):
It was just their particular relationship which Sashina Arnold has
been confronted about this. She said, this is how my
character was originally written for a heavy all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Right, you know what's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
I asked if this young lady we had posted some
shit in the discord and she was like a OnlyFans
model that passed last week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
She's like light skin, She's like.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
You know between Spanish and like that light skin, that
light skin, right, And somebody was like is she black?
And they were like, well, she's light skin, and I
was like, no, is she not black because she's light skin.
But there's a difference in this conversation. When you look
at to Sena Arnold and you look at Gina and
you look at.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
There's a complete difference.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
Whereas if Martin was calling to Sena Arnold BDBS, we
wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
You know what, the conversation to me is lazy because,
as somebody that is a real diehard Martin fan, the
reason why Martin went as hard against Pam is because
Pam always felt like Martin wasn't good enough for Gina.
Pam started it, She started it. She always said that

(01:01:55):
he was broke, he was loud, he was lazy, he
wasn't good enough, that Gina could do better. And that's
the reason why they had the back and forth that
they had. So you couldn't say much about Pam because
she was successful. So what are you gonna say. You're
gonna talk about her weaves because she changes her hair
every week. You're gonna talk about the fact that she

(01:02:16):
don't have no man. She called him shit, He called
her shit. That that was the dynamic of their relationship.
Everybody on that show that got the jokes, from his
mother's mustache to fucking Shinane to Gina's big ass head,
like everybody got that smoke. And I think that it's
disingenuous and this is this is the shit that irritates

(01:02:38):
me as a dark skinned black woman that you make
it seem like we're the fucking victims all the time.
I crack worst jokes with some of my friends than
Martin ever did to Pam and Jeina, and we can
have that discourse and go back and forth because we
are Brooklyn people and cutting ass is a part of
the fucking culture. I'm sorry, what are we talking about?

(01:02:59):
They have in times that he did say that Pam
was fine, Pam always had niggas Pam even when Pam
was with Tommy, like she was one of the baddest.
There was a whole fucking show of him having dreams
of wanting to be with Pam, like did we watch
the same show? And then when Gina asked was off
the show? It was him and Pam all the time.

(01:03:22):
Their dynamic was amazing. Are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
I understand that you are a Martin enthusiast and I
am not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
It sounds like because you remember all of the shit, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Because I've watched it hundreds of times.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
That means you're an enthusiast.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
I'm just a fan a comedy. The comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
If this was another show that you weren't an enthusiast
about and you heard a black man calling talking about
a black woman's hair or calling her a beast?

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
How many times did he actually call her a beast?

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Can I say if you called me a monkey one time?
It's like, you don't need to keep saying it, but
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Yes, no, I was gonna say, like, but everybody got
the jokes though, so why is it being.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Well, everybody caught back then? Like we often say, it
was a different time. We say that all the time
about things that we used to do, and then now
we look back on it and be like, eh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Yeah, but I'm saying the joke. The jokes are just
as bad for the black women as the black man.
Timing not happen a job cold, being stupid or slow? Like,
why do we keep trying to like pencil in on
something when it's it's both things. It's not like there
was one person on the show or one group of
people that never got joked on.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Everybody said that Pam was beautiful on that show daily,
except for Martin because he did not like her, because
she did not like him. Everybody it was a common
consistence that Pam was a fucking baddie. What are we
talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
They also brought up that he had the stereotypical figure
who didn't know in the hood.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Who did not know what, and the fucking and and
and the peaches hot comb they had. They had the
gay niggas on the show. They had everything. They had
the come on son. They the one people that had
little people on a show that did not make them
a caricature of themselves. The little people was fucked. They

(01:05:22):
beat Tommy ass in the hallway, like what are we
talking about? And to answer your question, I cannot give
an opinion on something that I did not see. If
I am not an enthusiast of something, I should not
speak about it at all. If you watch two episodes
and you're like, oh my god, this is so diabolical

(01:05:43):
and horrible against black women, go sit your cry baby
ass down and go watch The Philly odd Parents or
something like. I just want people to like grow a pair.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
See that's some gen X shit right there. I like that, right.
I think we are getting entirely too song of capital
T right, we're a getting too soft. Like, yes, it
was a time back then when we could say things
like so many things like I think about all in
the family, you know, I think about the Jeffersons like

(01:06:16):
they were throwing the H word around it crazy, you
see what I'm saying. So I think about those times,
and I understand that, you know, times did change, but
I think the time, the forced change times are due
to sensitivity. People are just getting too sensitive over time.
Like I still watch fore runs at Marton. They don't
make me cringe. It's all in jest. Now is their

(01:06:38):
truth and jest They say that a lot, Yes there is.
But I never looked at that show thinking that Gina
was better looking than Pam. But the jokes on Pam
were hilarious, That's all it was.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
It was jokes, and she always got that ass back.
She wanted to cry about it. She was on Martin
asked he was short, he had big ass dumbo ass ears,
that Nigga was loud and ignorant and impulsive, and she
never took her foot off of his net. So the
tree had like a victim of the show. Is so disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Yeah, Trona, you guys something to say.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
But none of those jokes that that Pam said about
Martin had anything to do with stereotypes of black men
big ears, being short.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
None of that being something broke jobless, those stereotypes, lazy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Being broke, being lazy, being not good enough for this
woman that is at this professional career, being like, yes,
like you do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Entertainment, you do radio.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Right, he was his job right, saying that he didn't
have an education, which he didn't, he didn't go to college,
talking about him, talking shit about his mother, the way
that he was raised, all of these.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Things, mama's boy, single parent.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Your mother got a mustache. It's the funniest shit in
the world, because she really did. I couldn't say nothing
about that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
I would say, if you wanted to critique the Barton Show,
I would say a safe critique is that they he
fed into a lot of the stereotypes, you know what
I mean, And in a time where yeah, you would
love to see more like strong black man figures in media,
he chose the silly comic rout. But it's like, yo,

(01:08:25):
he's a comedian first. I think there's there's a space
for that slapstick type of style, the physical humor, like
Kramer could do it on Seinfeld, like why Martin can't
do it? And I also feel like at that time
we had the Cosby Show, a different world living singles
so it wasn't all of that, you know what I mean,
It was different types of shows. So I feel like

(01:08:47):
there was room, there was space for that, and I
think it was fine. But I say that to say, like,
I don't that that critique about him digging on Pam.
I think I don't think that's even valid. If you
want to criticize the show, the only valid criticism I
would say would be like, yeah, he leaned heavy into
stereotypes in the media. But it's like, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
I'm cool with it. If you want to critique show,
I'm gonna tell you a show that I hate. It's Moesha.
My God, that I cannot I can't watch Moesha because
Frank was the epitome of a horrible father. In my eyes,
that Nigga was a liar, he was a manipulator. He

(01:09:29):
used to treat talk to her crazy. He called her
everything but a whole just for doing regular teenage ship
and she was a horrible teenager. So if you want
to talk about the show, that I could give some
real criticisms to criticism to fuck Moesha.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Oh shit, I mean this I could take I could
take it up a Notch. If you want to have criticism,
I gotta have some criticism for Professor Ogilvie from from
the Parkers.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Professor Ogilvie, what did he do?

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
Tell me?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
He was giving Nikki to run around. I don't like.
I don't like how he was doing. She was, she was,
she was running.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
No, she she was a toxic one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
She was.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
She did not know how to take no for answer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah, I know what's going on. He treated his queen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
You don't want her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Was toxic too, though he was. He would definitely lean
into her, liking him for his advantage a lot. So
he's taking av Yeah, shout out to a big woman.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Though.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Yesterday, I do want to say this, and you're gonna
be mad at me. I went to go see Fantastic four.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
The other day.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
There was nobody in the theater, maybe seven people in
the whole theater in the middle of a Tuesday afternoon,
and some ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Incomes. M h.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
These two women. They sit right next to me. There
are seats everywhere. There's nobody in the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
No, bro, Now, I done got my dogs out, I
got my house dogs out. I got you have to
I'm a glazy eater. Oh my god, how many did
you get to? Double double barried double?

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
First of all, yesterday, gummy gum drop. You can't. I
got a week before you say anything. You got a week.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I got my popcorn out, you know what I'm saying.
I got my nachos on the table next to me.
I'm here for the long haul, right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
How hungry were you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
What's two hours long? Calls?

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
They sit directly on the other side of the nachos
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Damn, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
I look at them and they're just oblivious. Right, she's
filling up the seat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Damn.

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
I didn't have a problem with that, but I did
have a problem with the behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
They snuck food in.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
So you're jealous.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
First, they made noise.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
She has a paper bag in her purse the movies on,
so all you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Hear is her digging in the bag. And I was like,
this is fat bit ship. This is fat bit ship.
I don't get how big you are. It's just fat
ship yesterday. Can I say that, bro?

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
I took a recording. I took a recording, Bro. I
did because I knew you was gonna be like NOA.
Because I needed y'all to hear this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Yes, the skin doesn't the right level.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, that was. That would have gonna be crazy, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
The whole bro, wait till you get to the now
the way my eighty AGD is set up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
I was lost through that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah, it's continuous. She's in and out the bag, she's
in and out the back. Bro. So it's a baggage
inside of a bag.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
It's a bag, it's a paper bag, and then there's
something in it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
So the rustling never stops.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
So whatever she's going in the paper bag for, then
the purse is keeping the bag together, right, So she's
got to go through that then into the next bag
in there, then out of it into her mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, you can't even make that kind of ship up.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
To be honest, I have to record it because now
I can't watch the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
At the end of it, I'm like, oh my fucking god.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
And then she looks at me and she like puts
the bag onto the side.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But I'm like, yo, why do yo?

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
You asking for the stereotype, you're asking for it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Just that bit ship was one of ours? No, okay, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
She was another one. Yes, I would have told.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Her to fucking move yesterday. What I what you gotta say,
you wouldn't have been annoyed because she was. I would
have been not relaxed. I would have been annoyed because
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Like even have sat on her lap.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Yeah, you're good, You're good mine, You are sorry famous.
Let me feed you, queen. You know you don't got
to hide that bag.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Just pull it out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I don't like shit going on where I'm trying to
watch a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
In fact, I didn't spend fifty something.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
Nachos, two Glizzies popcorn, you solder eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Yeah, you fucking up my whole ship. Hold on talking
about you said you went to go see a Fantastic four.
I've been saying, I've been saying for weeks. I was
trying to see fantastic for while. You ain't just hit
my lawn.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Why do you not want to go to the movies
with your cousin. He keep begging to spend time with you,
and you keep ignoring him.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
Like enough, I was I needed. I literally was going
to go to a spot a day. I just want
to spend time with myself. Literally, I wasn't answering the phone.
None of y'all people's hitting me up. I wasn't answering.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
This is in the midst of all of that going off,
and I just wanted to spend time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
So what you're saying is the next movie, you're going
to go to the movies. I'm not saying that either,
go to the movies with your cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Didn't football start?

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Yes, it is preseason.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
You can go to a Jets game. We go to
a Liberty game, right, we go do masculine ship. I'm
not going to sit in the dark with.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
This nigga, that's your cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
I'm not going to sit in the dark with this nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
What you think he's gonna do? You think he's gonna like.

Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
Don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
I'm not going I don't want to go to see
a movie with him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
This is ridiculous. This is nuts. So he didn't even
watch Game of Thrones.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
He doesn't like Beyonce, he doesn't like Stop saying why
am i yop yo?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Stop saying yo. Stop saying that. Shout out the Shout
out the Rock Nation.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
I would love to go to a Jets game. Can
we do that? Can we have an outing. I've never
been to a football game, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
You've never been a football it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
I know what happened to It's amazing. Okay, we're about
to have.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
A moment here. It's kind of good.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
It's kind of good.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
Depending on what perspective you're looking at it, you might
just like, go queen, I'm just gonna play it.

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