Let Me Feed You Queen (part two)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
If you know what I'm saying, Soles, if you know
what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
You old man.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
My wife is thirty three years so we have been
married for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
And my wife just cheated on me.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
She cheated on me eight girls, true, not even thirty
minutes away from where we lived.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
On day one of three, she slept with another man.
She said.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
She went to a barn with her girlfriends and family,
of course, and at this barn she wanted to see
if she still had it, or so, she says. She
approached a guy who is ten years younger than her,
talked to him, had a few drinks, and danced together,
and she said that was supposed to be it, but
somehow he torned her into a kiss. That kiss led

(01:35):
to them making out. Making out led to her inviting
him to walk her back to her hotel. It went
back to the hotel and they did what grown ups do,
she asked him to stop. After asking him to stop,
she asked him to keep going, and that happened for
threes looked out shout as her I til she finally

(01:57):
asked him.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
To leave, and he left.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
She said he wasn't forceful. She said he didn't beg
he was angry, he was nothing. He was very respectable.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
She called me just wanted crying to tell me all
of that. So I called my mother to tell her
about the issue. I called my mom, I told her
what was going on, and she told me to think
of my family. She said, think of your family. Even

(02:28):
though she cheated, it was not an affair. So even
though this is a.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Bad scenario, it's the best of a bad scenario because
this isn't the worst case, So you should forgive your
wife and stay.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
In it because of your family.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
And after I got off the phone with my mother,
I can't.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Help but think that I must be insane, that I
must be crazy because no fiber of my even remotely
thanks to forgive her so in my room for not
wanting to think of my family and for wanting to leave.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Why are you cracking up? Yes? Because what it things
we talking about? Y'all? I hate when people say ship
like that, stay for the family.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
You gotta just let the person do whatever they want
and just you know, just stay and try it up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
First stops. Bro. Listen, y'all got to send that piece
of paper. Yeah, y'all keep letting that.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
Yo, y'all keep getting caught up with this word in
the marketing and ship.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
I hate when people do that. Yes, it's marketing. It's
all marketing, bro, because you're not telling me it's about trust,
it's about loyalty. We're not telling me we get to
go back on these things because we we got to
make a mistake.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
When you're married, bro, that was not to stay one night. Listen.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
She called the next morning, said this happened last night.
She not in an affair. She also said, I want
to see if I still got it. That's what that's
where I got it.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
When he was twenty two twenty she was twenty one.
He was twenty three when they got married.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
What happened is, ultimately, the fucking price of pussy went
too far down. That's what the problem is, the price
of pussy went too far down, and we're able to
buy it by just being at a fucking bar and
somebody just thinking, Oh, I want to see if I
still got it, And I just happened to be that guy.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I just got lucky. We've had what's the fun about
being in the bar and where drink can get you? Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like drinking a long way. You
should not be letting no niggas buy you no drinks.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
You should not be letting no niggas come up to
you and talk about, oh you, oh you have a man.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Can we be friends? Though you can't.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
You're not supposed to let niggas do that shit. If
you respect your man, you don't do that shit. And
you you know what, if that's the boundaries that your
man set me. Put it that way, if that's the
boundaries that your man set. You can't do that ship
and to piggyback off you glad Like, even if you
do do that and it does happen, he's not obligated

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to take you back because y'all married, or because y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Have a fucking whatever the fuck you call it.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Like, but you literally went against the vows of your marriage, yes, Like,
what are we talking about? You went against it, so
I'm supposed to stay although you broke the vowels.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Are you shitting me?

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Why you didn't call me beforehand and say, yo, listen,
I'm having some temptation right now. Why you didn't do that?
An ate dragon all night? Now you you hit me
afterwards like, yeah, I'm not. I went to the barbecue
last night, Like what are you talking about? And I
was married before, right, and that happened to me. I
got cheated on, right, and I tried to work through it,

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but the thought of.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It happening, just why stayed with me? This is crazy?
This stayed with me and I couldn't. I couldn't. It
just would not work. It just wouldn't work. So I
had to go. I can't.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
I can't, like I can't see myself, Like, right now,
I'm in a relationship, right, and I am in love
with this person. I don't just love this, but I
am in love with this person, right. And we made
it official only June that passed, but we've been.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Talking since October of last year.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
I know I want to marry this girl, right, So
my situation in the past does not determine from one
to be married in the future.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
But between now and death and she cheats on me,
whatever we have is done. I am There's no coming
back from that from me, right one, because I don't cheat, right,
I have cheated.

Speaker 8 (06:54):
Did you cheat on your wife?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
No? Never, not once? No no, no, hold on, hold on,
Why are you trying to poke a hole in my lord?

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Here's a funny thing, though, right when the last time
I cheated was with my wife, my ex wife. So
being that I was in a relationship, cheated and then
end up married the person that use it, right, So,
I mean I don't believe that either. That's that's that's
a superstition. But but no, there's truth to it though.
That's that's definitely truth to it. Because when people have

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a tendency to do this honest things, they will continue
to do this honest, things potentially right, but well, all
I'm trying to say is, if you put yourself in
a position to say, hey, I will never do this
to you, stand on your words. I understand that things happen,
but we're not.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
We're not gonna that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
But again it goes back to the price of pussy
being so low. Like you, here's here's what I mean.
Here's what I mean by that. Right when you go
back in the day, right, you have to get married
to get the pussy.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now all I need is on Netflix account.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
The price is different, little bottle of don and that
that's happened over time. Forget about if you have Disney
Plus and.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
A nice little trip.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
But I'm just saying it's just it's just we just
the price of things changed. It's creating lazy niggas. Niggas
that's not even putting much effort to get you now.
But that's because the price is low. Why should I
go spend the high price when I could get it
here for the low Yeah, and this is why things
like this happened.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
What do you think about I would say about the
price pussy being low, but.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Drop do you think that he should be thinking about
his family in this situation or should he be like, Yo,
you violated the terms of VIO you know, shackimoney or whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I believe the second chance sometimes. But you made a
good point. They got married when it was like twenty,
so I've seen this shit play out Before you get
married that young. You never get to live out those
years of dating and having fun and wild'ing out. You can't.
If you feel like you missed out on that, that

(09:20):
spirit might always live within you that like I'm fomo, Like, damn,
I ain't get a chance to do this. I never
had a one night stand. I never did this that
a third never went to you know, Greek fest or
whatever weekend exactly.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Like people that I know a lot of people that
have divorced and stuff that married young and didn't experience that.
And this is a common thing, and so it ain't
just a one night thing. It's like, I don't know, Broo,
I wouldn't revisit that if I was him.

Speaker 9 (09:54):
Right, I ain't gonna lot to you, bro Doing it
is one thing. The family being cool with it, the
friends being cool with it.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
That's divorce. To me gone, there's nobody fact that was on.

Speaker 9 (10:07):
Vacation or wherever you went, because they went, that was
only half away before. Fine, but your family was there,
seeing you kissing on the dance floor, seeing you rubbing
up on this nigga, and to dance floor.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Everybody's cool. Drinks, hey, ye, and drinks. I'm Marjorie. Noah, noah.
And that's that's where the violation comes to me. No second.

Speaker 9 (10:29):
Yes, it's like a whole community that cheated. All of
y'all ain't giving a fuck about our marriage. And I'm
supposed to be married to all of y'all through her.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right. The friends is one thing, but the fucking mom.
How your mom let you walk off with a stranger? Yeah,
that's what I was gonna say. What Nah, you know
that that's it.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
You know, on vacation, you're not just wandering away from
the crowd unauthorized, you know what I'm saying. So, I
mean the family had the authorize to cheat in a way.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
They authorized it. They definitely authorized it. Because where she
what I'm saying, she's just gone, she's just nowhere. Well,
can we ask Dodge? No, no, no, no, I'm not going
to I'm.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
Staying out of men's business.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Today, it's not business. But I'm gonna ask you what's
typical for a girl's not is that girls trip like
a girl's trip.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
You want me to snitch?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but I'm saying like, you don't have to. I've
been there where I've.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
Been around girls relationships and their friends and their people's
is pushing her up on.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, y'all he's cute and yo, we're here. You know,
it is what it is. I ain't gotten this. My
name is Ben and Diane in it. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
Yeah, gosh, because she knows and you knows when your
friend is not happy or whatever whatever, and she needs
a little life, got to get her groove on or whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Hey, I'm never going to say nothing girl and won't.
And it is what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
So I've been there trom with people's just pushing you
towards that nigga. I've been to a Chicks family house
and she had a whole relationship and they had me over.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Your point.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Maybe is that so wrong of them? If she's in
an unhappy relationship and they're like looking out for her, like, yo,
you need to do you you need to like, it's.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
For him, for the husband, for the boyfriend, Yeah, it's
wrong for him. For me and her. Great the stanks
for the support, but for him to look at it.

Speaker 9 (12:40):
As to like, can we rekindle this? No, y'all all
made this decisions. I can't trust nobody.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's over. This is oppy, We're done.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
And that's the thing with these girls. Trips to be
a lot of foolery going on. Don't don't do that.
Don't a lot of foolery going on, a lot of
input throughout the weeks. It's crazy. No input today.

Speaker 8 (13:05):
I'm staying leave your family, Lujah, Halla back. I don't
know what y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Want for me, gladye.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
This is going this is coming towards you yesterday, this
is coming towards you.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
TROUMP pretty sure I know your answer. Would you be cool?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Say your wife y'all been married for ten years, things
are good, and she wants to give you a hall
pass on your vacation. She says, go have fun. I
want to go out with my girls. I want to
have a hall pass. I want you to have a
whole pass.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
This is just something that happens with vacation. Just you know,
we've been together for ten years. We have we don't
have trust issues, We've never cheated. I want you to
do this, but this is also something that I want
to do. Would it be a conversation that you that
you would entertain No.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
Where are you from? Where your family from.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
Haitian and Cuban. But it's a it's a it's a resounding,
no resounding.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm gonna turn it down.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
To because when I when I got to the point
where I said, I want to spend the rest of
my life with you. I want to do life with you.
Everything that I want to do that's intimate with you.
That's what I want. That's what I meant. Like, it's
not going to be a situation where down to that
because I've been I've only been in long term relationships
from year Like even with my ex wife from year

(14:30):
one to.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Year eight, I was still sexually attracted to her. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
For like this young lady I'm with now from day one,
from the time we met, I've been.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Sexually attracted to her.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Right, I've been on my podcast saying I would never
have sex seven times there, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Last weekend we had sex seven times. That day. God damn,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
So like, there's a sexual attraction that I haven't heard
that I haven't had with anyone, right, So for me
to think about her giving that away to somebody else,
it's crazy to me, Like why would why would I
entangle my myself or or attached myself to someone that
would be willing to entertain that conversation. I don't want
it as soon as soon as that conversation, all right,

(15:08):
go ahead, go do it?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Do you think do you think locks changed yesterday? You too? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:15):
Yeah, I know if somebody I'm marrying, the last thing
that I'm trying to think about is a drag infest
with that as I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Laying down at night.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
I can't you ever seen the best man right where
he was about to marry the girl and as he's
about to marry, he's getting the flashbacks in his head.
That's me, Like, I can't be looking at you in
our most precious moments and just thinking you're getting thrashed.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Facts, that's not like fact that guy sit here thinking
was this dick bigger than mine? Like? Did he.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Like it's just too much going into it, Like the
way she looks up at you when she's giving you
had like she's doing that with him, Like what what
if it's not just a him?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
What is it?

Speaker 7 (15:58):
If it's them? It's a free path, it's a damn train.
Like what if these are the things that she wants
to do when she's all her hall past barrel from
four B You know what I'm saying, Because she can't
dictate what I'm gonna do on my hall pass.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You know, I don't even want to pass.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
I'm good, Like like the hall pass is opening up
a can can of worms literally and figuratively to a
can of worms that we really don't want to deal with.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Troup what you got pick up we left off Graddy
that can of worms. It's not good for me neither.
Like the flip side, Yeah, I don't, Yeah, you don't
need that. I don't want to go down that whole
New Buns. You know what I'm saying. It's like, all right,
it's not it's not a good look for me and

(16:46):
my vows and my relationship facts and listen, this is
nothing against poligamy. It's just not for me personally. It's
not So I shared the same sentiments as Graddy yesterday,
but I could see how to work for other families,
but for me and for me, what disturbs me the
most is the fact that she was, you know, hypothetically
in the scenario, she's the one that's like, Yo, we

(17:07):
should do this.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Its like that, make sure they got her dragon picked out.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And then the fact that you want me to do it.
That's a huge red flag because you don't give a
fuck about me, right Like, you want to do it
so bad that you don't even give a about me
doing it. But what's the difference between the chick that's
doing saying that and the chick that likes girls and
brings the chick over and she could watch you have
sex with another.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Girl right from I'm not doing that either. That's the
thing like into polygamy, So that's not that's notamy. Threesome.
I'm not doing is marrying different people.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
But I've said this from when I was younger, like
I don't want threesome with my wife, you know what
I mean. I wouldn't mind a threesome, but I wanted
I wanted to be on some fun ship.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I've had three. That's just that's not done that you
love having.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
When I say fun ship, like leaving any emotional connections
out of it, so there ain't no awkwardness and and
that's just me. Maybe it's my awkwardness, it's not I'm
not putting it on you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Everybody has a different why are you laughing?

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Everybody has a different view of things, and that's okay, bro.
Different fact and self awareness is definitely key and not
falling into what everybody else is saying to do, like
you're saying like, no, I'm not good for that.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
That's that's for me. If she bringing chicks over there laying,
I'm knocking them down like shots at the bar, I'm
knocking them down. Okay, Dodge is knocking them down. And
every time you're telling your man go.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
On vacation, not knock him down, send me video to
send your video?

Speaker 8 (18:43):
You know, you know me, like why.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Do you do that? Do you want the video? Yes?

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Every time I want the video.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Don't get me wrong. That shit is I want the video.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
That is I'm not gonna lie like that.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Shiit is dope.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
It's fire, even even even from a nigga that don't
want it. I'm able to see how fire that shit
truly is that shit is dope.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
But for me it's not.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
For like, I can't do it right because again, I
maybe it's jealous. Maybe maybe it's jealousy. I don't want
nobody fucking my girl.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't want that jealous as ego. And it's also
with the way you.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
I think, the way we when we picture our relationship,
it's how we set ourselves in that And there's people
talk about ownership and possessiveness like that, But you protect
what's yours to me, You protect what's yours. You provide
for what's yours, and if somebody else has access to it.

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I can see why a person say, well, then how
is this mind? I can see that conversation being what
it is.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
I look at things a little differently, obviously, y'all know
I'm in a I'm in that world where I look
at it a little differently, but I can understand the feeling.

Speaker 10 (20:00):
I don't get the feeling. I just I don't know
if I ever understood it.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
I don't own anybody.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
I don't have the right to tell another adult what
to do and what not to do. And I don't
want nobody just telling me what I can do and
what I can't do. Like my husband is my husband
because he's my husband, but he's also an individual and
he can live like if I'm not standing, even if

(20:30):
I am standing next to him, child, It's.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Different strokes for different folks.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
But not for freak I am.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Maybe I'm a little.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Freaking yeah, But even with that, right, you guys chose
each other for that very reason, right, for that very reason.
So now when you're choosing each other, I'm pretty sure
these are conversations that has been had over time, these
intentional questions that we're asking.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
So now when I'm getting with somebody, right for me,
we're having these intentional conversations about being monogamous to one another. Right,
and then somewhere down the line, you ask not to
be monopoly. That's that's where I'm at with it, because
I'm not going to get into any relationship with anyone
that wants to do that ship right, People change, people

(21:19):
do change, and that's where I will. I will change, right,
I will change, I will change my relation, changing everything. Right,
So people are obligated to change. And it's not a
matter of me saying you cannot do this. It's more
of a thing of us coming together in the beginning
and having these intentional conversations with an understanding that we

(21:40):
will not do this right, it's not it's against boundaries.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
You get in a relationship with the person that you
want to share boundaries with and you feel like this
person because you don't know what they're gonna down the line,
but you feel that this person is not going to
cross those boundaries.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
They've assured you that it wouldn't. I don't really like
what you're saying.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
I understand what you're saying and understan stand with yesterday's saying.
But to me, marriage is differenticuar sacrament.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's like.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Y'all are like, oh, this piece of paper, piece of paper.
What if it's just a piece of paper that you
would violate, that you would like because all.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
Right they say, they say they cheated, and I get
that they violated the paper first. I know that's probably
the obvious answer. But what happens is that this sacrament,
this val is supposed to be a life choice. I'm
choosing you for life. Good bad things are gonna go wrong.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
That's what the preacher or whatever they tell you right
before they tell you, YO, trust me, this person is
probably gonna give.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
You the worst pain you ever gonna go through. Trust me,
that's gonna happen. Expect it.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's there.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
It's part of the part of the deal. Of course,
are you because are you saying that you are willing
to go through that.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
With the person? Right?

Speaker 7 (22:55):
You understand what I'm saying, And y'all are saying, yeah,
except for this, and if that, no, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I don't care. I don't care. And that's my thing.

Speaker 9 (23:02):
Like yo, you know, there's so many conversations that I
see on the internet where God, where the question is
men don't forgive for cheating, or then there's the women
say yes they do, yes they do.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
But for me, marriage is marriage?

Speaker 7 (23:16):
Is this something that we can salvage If it's not
because you literally don't want to be here no more
and your family and your community don't.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Want us together no more? Maybe not?

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Maybe because I love you, I let you go, right,
But if this is something where you said you made
a mistake, you're telling me the nick doing in tears.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
You fucked up. Yeah, we're probably gonna split for a while.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Yes, I'm going to fucking Strogers in Atlanta and I'm
doing a tour. I'm going down to Columbia. Finally, I'm
going I'm gonna have my fun. But this is my wife.
So at some point I'm gonna come back home and
we're gonna sit there and have really fucked up conversations
and see if this marriage is salvageable, because that was
the deal to me, that was the deal we made.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
And if that's not the deal, what's the play? Get
marriaged girlfriend.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
Forever and then y'all could just break up easily. I
agree with you.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
Like in totality, like I don't understand the point of
making a vow to walk away from the vow the
minute that it.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Gets super uncomfortable. It's going to get uncomfortable, like people.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Going to change.

Speaker 9 (24:20):
Twelve years, you've only been with her, You're in the
honeymoon stick that God hopefully that shit lasts for seven, eight,
nine years, right, But fifteen.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I get that again.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
I've been married, so I've been through those and I
tried to stay through it. I totally understand what you
guys say. But to clarify what I'm talking about, when
it's a piece of paper, When I say it's a
piece of paper, I'm talking about. People are using that
piece of paper as if it's going to change the
dynamic of your relationship to the extent of, oh, now
this person that's been cheating for twelve years is no

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longer going to cheat on me now that I'm married.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's what I'm talking about. That piece of paper is
not going to change anything except for your taxes and
like that. That's not this though. This is the person
that has been been faithful for mad long.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
We apparently went out and called you the next day like, yo,
I'm destroyed. I fucked up, I was drinking too much,
I turned on And I.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Would like to think I would like to think that
it hurts a lot more after someone's been faithful to
you for thirteen years to cheat on you in dar
thirteen first of someone that has been cheating on you overtime,
that first time is no That first time is nothing
like that first time. That's where you know the betraial

(25:36):
happened here first. If it happens over time, it doesn't
hurt as much as that first time. I kind of agree, right, So,
thirteen years in this is when you choose to see
if you still got it right. Thirteen years. You did
not think of my family, of our family when you
did that. You didn't think of it, right, You didn't
think of You probably thought about our family when you

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called me the next day to tell me about it,
to see if I was to stick around.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
You probably did think. But maybe the guilt was getting
to you. Right.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
That's not fair, that's not feel the guilt. You don't
think the guilt got to her to make it call.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
That guilt makes you cold that ship you don't call
the next morning, I need to call him and tell
him nobody.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Does that make you lie? Hide it? That's what the
guilt does.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Like I think that you though guys don't think there's
guilt from holding something in the got rolled for guilt
right now. Literally woke up the next morning. It's like
I done fucked up my life.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
But you want to know I have fucked up guilty,
But you want to know what else is crazy?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's guilt.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
We were thinking about the optics.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
Of age, right, and she's saying like, oh, you know,
I wanted to see if I still got it. She
when you get married super duper young, like that, you
don't understand the dynamics of outside. You don't understand the
dynamics of what that type of temptation looks like.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Like she thought she was in control.

Speaker 10 (26:57):
She thought it would stop at a drink and a laugh,
and that thought like she was in uncharted territory. She
was in a place that she could not she did
not know how to navigate out of, which is why
it went as far as it went. So I think
that at least in this situation, I think that grace
is necessary for her, because y'all, you don't understand, like

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that ship had to be tough on all.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
I can't believe you doing this right now. I can't
you're gonna let that You're gonna let her get this off.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
By the last day.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
What did I say that then? Didn't say something?

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Oh my god, you're saying that grace needs to be
given because when you get married at a young age,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, because she she didn't
know all the things that come with like and I
just don't understand. Why don't anybody else get this level
of grace?

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Who the fuck is anybody else?

Speaker 10 (27:57):
Because niggas be having whole families across the streets, So
please tell me who don't get this level of.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Grace obviously, how how women?

Speaker 8 (28:07):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 10 (28:08):
Like like like literally, a man cheating on a woman,
on his wife, on his family, literally is like one
of the most forgivable sins. Like everybody looks at women
like they're fucking stupid? How dare you walk away from
your family just because he did? But because the role
is reversed, It's like.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
What.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's more of the norm for a man to cheat
than it is for a woman.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
It's not y'all have lied to yourselves. You have put
yourselves in this realm of delusion to think that women
don't cheat.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
That's much maybe even more.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
We cheat. But it's socially, it's no, it's not newer.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Yes, it's newer for it to be as pronounced as
it is now. Like back in the day, it wasn't
as pronounced because you guys didn't have to access.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
Y'all like to lot of y'allselves in each y'all like
to lie to yourselves in each other.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
That's why it wasn't as pronounced.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
Because we are now in a society in which niggas
are actually being honest and speaking about what the fuck
is going on?

Speaker 8 (29:08):
Grandma was cheating too. She just didn't get caught.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
You.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
That's why you got two fucking gunts that looked completely different,
but somehow they got the same. Daddy, stop playing with me,
y'all gotta side.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
More? Are you like now? Today?

Speaker 9 (29:24):
Absolutely women cheat more today than man at.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Least even absolutely.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
Outside is a beautiful place to be. See and that's
the thing, right, I just know how to go home.
She feels, this young lady that that that cheated. She
feels like she probably missed her whole face and she
wanted to do her whole face.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
And she understood that it was a mistake and that's
not the life that she really wanted. She was not
in control. She did not understand the dynamics of being outside.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
She fucked up.

Speaker 10 (29:50):
She called her husband, this person that's supposed to be
her best friend, this person that she has this vow
with that you're supposed to trust and tell everything to.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
She called that nigga in tears to tell him.

Speaker 10 (29:59):
To fuck and confess her sins like he's a goddamn priest.
And it's like, yo, babe, this is what I did.
And she and it wasn't even about forgiveness. His mama
is the one that told him not to break up
her family. She just told him because she felt like
it was the right thing to do, and that is
the right thing to do, That was the right thing
to do. But for you to be willing to throw

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away everything for somebody that actually told you the truth
is a problem because you don't want to hear the truth.
You want to con continue the facade. You don't want
to go through real life ship. You don't want to
go through the ebbs and flows of life because ship
is gonna happen.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
So what would you rather?

Speaker 7 (30:35):
I would rather be in a situation where a person
not gonna cheat on mere Talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Everybody today, there is going to be a time where
everybody in every relationship has some type of temptation.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
You're either gonna go with it or you're gonna go
against it. But it's going to come up, and some
people are strong enough to deal with it and know
how to maneuver, and some people have to fuck up
to understand what that is and what that is like.
And y'all be so willing, like it's like it's like
women have to be like like like this pillar of
like perfection because oh my god, I can't imagine the

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possibility of my girlfriend doing these things with somebody yet.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
But we don't want perfection. We want you to stick
and stand on what you said you were going to
stand on.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
So that means the same moment that a man makes
a mistake, the same moment that your word is not
your bond.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
She should fucking leave.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
No, she should address it.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
She that was, but she addressed her her wrongdoings. She
called the one person she was supposed to call, and
she spoke to him about it instead of holding onto it.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
And that's not good enough for y'all because saying that
she should have never did it.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Know she what she did when she confessed to what
she did. Now it's on him. It's on him to
address what she did.

Speaker 10 (31:59):
She said, I thought I wanted to see if I
still had it. I thought that I was in control.
I had a plan of where this was gonna stop.
And I fucked up. And you go to that person,
your best friend, and tell him that you fucked up,
and you willing to throw away your whole family because
I told you the truth.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
If they do salvage that relationship, she's never.

Speaker 10 (32:18):
Gonna tell that negative truth again about any mistake that
she ever makes, and he made that possible.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
That if you, if I forgive you now, you're gonna
now you're either gonna do it again and hide it
from me, or you're gonna do it again.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And tell me again. I'm not I'm not waiting around
for the bullshit. I'm not why, but I don't care.
She didn't care about me last night, so I'm not
gonna care about her and moving forward. You can't do that.
You can't just say shut up. You can't. You can't
just tell me, hey.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
I'm gonna be with you, only you, and then you
go do that and not expect me to feel some
type of way about it.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Feel however you want to feel.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
Running away from a marriage and a family that is
some cowardice shit.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
No, I'm away from she on a marriage is cowardly.
She ran away from the family when she cheated with that.
Why is when you don't know, when you don't know
what the consequences are going to be, why take the risk.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
Because that's what humans do. That's literally what humans do.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
You can take that ship all the way back to
the biblical days that Nigga God said, don't do.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
This, that bench and that nigga did it anyway, No,
she did it, and then he.

Speaker 10 (33:24):
Believe that Adam did it, which is why the Adam
apple was in a nigga's neck.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
But if we want to take it there, we can
take it there.

Speaker 10 (33:30):
At the end of the day, it's always fucked the
woman for making a mistake that the man made.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But it's the man too. If talking about we're not
talking about professionals.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
If the video was the other way around, if the
video was the other way around, whereas a woman doing
that same video.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
He wouldn't even be talking about it for as long
because it's such a normal thing.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
No, I would have said, I would have said, yes,
leave him too.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Everybody has. Everybody has their non negotiables. It's not about
it's not fact one of your non negotiable is infidelity.
Then it's not because you and one more, one more
thing that committed adultery. If you did fucked up ship
and then you tell me about it, that doesn't mean
you're an honorable person because you're telling the truth about

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you did. You did some fucked up ship.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
This is the reason why marriage broken homes.

Speaker 10 (34:21):
Marriage, I mean divorce rate is fifty percent because y'all
talking about we just had a cohold conversation about niggas
not being able to go through ship and niggas is
too sensitive and that that.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
That more divorces thing, y'all let me. It's of women
do the divorces. Men don't initiate and stupid shiite?

Speaker 9 (34:42):
Are y'all telling me that if a man was loyal
for thirteen years, had a weak night on vacation and
called his wife to tell her the next day break
up the family, that y'all would say she should leave him.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
What y'all saying here?

Speaker 7 (35:00):
I would not find anything wrong with her choosing to
leave exactly chose to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I would be mad that. I don't understand why niggas.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
If they're choosing, if they're choosing to stay together and
keep the family together, that's not wrong either. It's the
choice that they're choosing to make right. You can't you
can't tell me that again, like you can't tell me
that you are going to be faithful to me, and
then you go against that.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You can't do that, and you're telling me I have
to and I have to accept it, right, and then
you tell me I have.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
All right.

Speaker 10 (35:32):
So here's a non negotiable. Here's a like, let's have
a false equivalency. Let's just do it for fun, for
ships and giggles. My non negotiable is my nigga could
never be without a job ever. If that may be
fired tomorrow, this is, but this is my boundary. You
got fire tomorrow, I can leave my whole family.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
Because this is my non negotiable.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
This is and that's okay, that's your non negotiable.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Eyes.

Speaker 10 (35:56):
If this is my non negotiable and some shit happens
and he loses his job tomorrow, I me leaving my family.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
Is that something that in your mind is like that?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
That is justified?

Speaker 8 (36:07):
Worth me walking away from my family? Something like that?

Speaker 7 (36:11):
If it's like worth justified, worth justified, Yes, justified, yes worth,
that's entirely up to you in your circumstance.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
In your circumstance, you're non negotiable. That says a lot
about you, And I would sign out you like I
wouldn't even be with a woman.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Like that about now, because you're moving. I wouldn't know.
I'm not emiable.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Let me speak for a secret. To Gladdy's point, if
that's your non negotiable, then I wouldn't be with you first.
You're telling me the minute I lose a job, you
want a divorce.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Tell me the minute that I make a mistake, you
want to lose.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
Losing losing mistakes. Yes, losing a job is not against
somebody's marriage. That's not in the in the fold we'll
be talking about. Cheating is in the fold things to
not do.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's on the list. Eating fire from a job is
not on the list. But what about.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
Just because you don't have a job, don't mean that
you don't provide a talking about.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
It, doesn't mean that you can't get another job. This
is what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out, how
do we keep putting cheating in the mix?

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Like, Yo, this is on the things. This is what
the bacon and eggs, This is what the gas, this
is what the grocery bills. Why are we acting like
this is a part of the mix.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
All I will say is just to like put a
button in this because I feel like there comes times
where I get irritated at certain things that I am
just so thankful that none of this ship is my
life and I'm.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
Over it, and you know that's that's the amazing thing
about being able to choose your person. Like we're all
we're all speaking in hypotheticals here, right, but when we
choose our person, we know what we're choosing, we know
what we're getting into for the most part, right, we
have these these these intimate and intentional conversations to know
that we're picking the partner that's right for us. Right,
when you pick the partner that's right for you, you

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really don't have to worry about all the extra stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Right. So, Now, if.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
Sometimes sometime down the line, let's say, like, for instance,
it seems like you have an open situation, right, let's
say he wants to close that situation at some point.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
You want to know, what's so funy? We had the
conversation last night.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
And it ain't gonna happen, correct, But but what I'm saying,
it's like, let's let's say let's say one of let's
say one of you wanted to close it now and
the other one didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Like, where do you guys do at that point?

Speaker 7 (38:21):
Because like you said, people do change, right, people do change,
and the parameters of your relationship might change based on
that person changing.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
So that so, which is why you have the conversations,
and literally the conversation last night was if we ever
just like, at what point are we gonna not be
us right? And if we do decide to close it,
what would that look like? And I said, let's have
a conversation about this more fifty and even fifty is
not good enough because you know who you're a great

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example of what a fifty year old is.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
And I think I'm still gonna be outside, so maybe
sixty clos.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Let me, let me switch, let me let's we've been
doing this for a while.

Speaker 9 (39:01):
There's other arms here that we can you know, go
down right, Brent, branches of this conversation. We're speaking about
relationship building and choices that we're making and non negotiables
and all of these all of the stuff that's coming up.
And I've been sitting here like, oh, I can segway there?
Who I can sway there?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
But fine, y'all, motherfucker's gonna argue, so I couldn't do it? Uh?
Are you eating cookies? Doing so softly?

Speaker 8 (39:28):
And he turns off his mic and.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Paper bag. In the movie.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
Yea, the third person, it's never gonna stop broad Fatty.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So I imagine trying to watch a movie and this
is going on. Bro.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Imagine bro inconsistent, Like it wasn't even like she was
taking a break in between chewing.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
She would putting him out and go right back into
the bag.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
So it was pretty consistent. Hearing her crunch, crunch, crunch,
then right back in the back. I was like, Yo,
you gotta be fucking kidding me.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
She's just got a fire stick. Because you can't afford
to get.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Movies, go to the movies and get thee away from
my neck. But wait, were you sitting in the prime
seat store, because you know there's that area that.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Was right kind of in the middle, right in the middle,
right fro right in the middle seat like nine or ten.
You can't beat it.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Yeah, those are the best seats, but damn, like, I
don't want to sit next to nobody was right, And
that's and that's kind of like why you go to
the movies that time of day.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I was it was like one like, nobody's to be
nobody's supposed to be here. I saw a tweet and
it said it was two tweets.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
As a man, getting into a serious relationship while you're
still building yourself is the worst thing you can do.
Getting into a serious relationship before you've built yourself is
like trying to carry someone while your legs is still shaking.
You'll lose focus, you'll lose time. You'll end up trying
to please instead of trying to grow. Relationships require energy, attention,

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and leadership. And if you're still figuring out your purpose,
your money, your mind, you're not ready to lead yet.
You'll compromise too much. You'll settle, You'll become dependent on
her support instead of building your own foundation. Build yourself first,
your discipline, your values, your vision.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Then choose a woman.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
Who adds to the empire, not one who becomes your
reason for building it.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I agree, love it, love it.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Try I disagree because people act like it's a destination point,
like when are you fully built? It's we're constantly trying
to move in an uppard trajectory. It's like people think like, yeah,
one day, I'm just gonna be a done, you know, adult,
and I'm gonna be emotionally this and financially this, and

(42:08):
I'm gonna be now. I can understand there's levels to everything,
and you don't want to come into a relationship just
completely fucked up and unhinge. I get the sentiments, but
I also understand, like, yo, we constantly want to you
constantly working on yourself, you know what I mean, And
there's gonna be points where you might be better than
you were. But yeah, I just don't like that idea

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of waiting for everything to be perfect because that leads
to procrastination, that leads to like missing people that were
meant to be in your life for a certain reason.
And you're just like, I'm not where I want to be.
So yeah, I understand it, but I disagree, Gladdy.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
Yeah, I agree solely because I feel like, like to
your point, people are always growing, but I feel like
there's a sweet spot where you get in life where
you're like, you know what, I'm successful, Well, right, more
success will or may come, right, And like that person said,
that person said, like, you know, when you're constantly when
you're trying to build a certain level of discipline and

(43:10):
start to build this and that Once you get to
that level of discipline, it's hard for someone to come
into your life and kind of disrupt it to an extent, right,
And when you get with someone after understanding that you
are where you need to be for that moment, right,
Because again, there's still going to be constant growth, and
this person can actually bring something into your life that's special.

(43:30):
I think that's the point where you should really go into.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Now.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
Don't get me wrong, there are people that start at
level one and they get with someone, They get with someone,
and you know that person helps.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Them get to that level that they want to get to.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
But at the end of the day, I do feel
like you should be at a certain point in life
before you start looking at.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Relations yesterday, Yes, sir, what do you think about this?
I agree with both sides of the coin.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
I've kind of been on both sides to the coin
as well, so I do understand how hard it is
to develop a serious relationship when you're trying to build yourself,
especially when you're doing like unconventional things.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Right. So I do think, like Trump said, like you
do have to start at a level.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
There is a base level, right, because I do think
what I've learned that what I've learned about myself is
that getting in relationships and not being established how I
want to my personal life and the shit going on
with me always affected how I showed up in a relationship.
So stuff that I wanted to do, I wasn't able
to do right or stuff that I should be doing.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I was laid on right.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
So even though I felt like I knew how I
wanted to move, me, living out of survival kind of
stopped me from doing it sometimes, Right, So now I'm
questioning myself as a partner. Right, So I feel like
it adds a lot of issues to things as opposed
to being a little bit more established.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Right. That's just my take on it. In personally, Yo,
I was.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
Gonna yell yesterday. You stopped me from yelling. I promise
you you stop me from yelling. And the reason why
is because not being able to do the things that
you want for your girl or provide the things that

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your family needs, it can be very masculine. It can
be very emasculine. And I will say that. So I
understand your sentiments a little bit, right, But what are
you doing while you're not in that serious relationship because
you're not telling me, you're just fucking super focused all

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the time.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You know how.

Speaker 9 (45:40):
Distracting pussy is, all these different bitches in and out
the crib, all these different dates. You know how much
that shit costs, You know how many mistakes it takes
to get a baby. Mind, it only takes one one
good mistake and now you got a hell of a distraction.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Right then, we're not taking a can How.

Speaker 9 (46:03):
Women are valuable, bro, the right woman in your life,
not only can she help you make better decisions, she
can introduce you to some shit. Their brains were completely
different than us. That's why they're so annoying, by the way.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's why they're so annoying because they look at life differently.

Speaker 9 (46:20):
Right, we might look at life through this super focused
telescope microscope and shit, but their shit is like a
fucking like it's like an octagon of glass where it's
all these reflections and information.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
They're like fucking doctor Strange sitting there like.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
Literally, that's literally what they're doing, and they it's constant.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Right. But if you get one and you focus with
her and you build with her, she can.

Speaker 9 (46:50):
Help points you in the right directions all the time.
You might not be the most social nigga, but she'd
have made networks overhead that she can introduce you, rather
than you trying to be that nigga to all of
these randombities.

Speaker 8 (47:04):
Right while you're trying to build yourself up.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
You over here hopping around.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
You over here, hopping her bad bro, that shit is
eighty percent. But that distraction that's in your life that's
two percent. But that's to assume that you're letting women
into your life at all.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
You're not fucking right. This is what we're just gonna do.
We just gonna act like niggas is not fucking no.
All right, so niggas is not fucking here. I'm gonna
go back. I'm going back to what I said earlier.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
With the price of pussy being low, you don't have
to pay the fuck right, you could you if you have,
If you have, I don't have to pay the fuck
Let me just say me.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Time is paid, right, Time is pay is paying five minutes?
Energy is paid. No no, no, no no, it is
five minutes. Stress is paying. Stress is paying. All right. Look,
I get all of that. I one agree with what
you're saying.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
But what I'm trying to say is what I'm trying
to say is ultimately she's talking about relationships, right, and
she said find your purpose first. You don't have to
be making money within your purpose. If you your purpose first,
then that person can help you build your purpose. Like first,
I spent the whole weekend making a logo for my
new podcast coming out right, I spent, but without her

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I would not have been able to pinpoint what I
was looking for, right. But I have my purpose. My
purpose is in media space, right, and she can help
me build that mean space. So what I'm saying is
for what she said, I agree with it to the
extent of what she was saying. Like what she said
to the box, I'm sorry. Are you still building?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yes? And so that's the thing.

Speaker 9 (48:30):
Getting into a serious relationship while you're still building is
the worst. That's the battles when it said, not saying
until you find your purpose, because there's difference, right, there's
like words mean things. As Trump said, you could be
looking for your purpose through for years, sax years. I

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went to jail, came home, did one podcast, said oh shit,
I'm a freak nigga.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Let me do another one, like like you know what
I mean? And and now I'm like, damn, I found purpose.

Speaker 9 (48:59):
But having a great woman by my side from the beginning,
I feel like I would have I wouldn't have suffered
so many if I was willing to be a good
man too. I had to be willing to be that too, right,
and so there's nuance in that. But yeah, bro, I
totally disagree. I totally a thousand.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Disagree with her. She said a specific thing.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
We don't know if that's a woman. You think that
was a woman with that person they said a specific thing.
With My situation is different from what she's saying. Right,
I have a career as well. I don't just do
media like after outside of media, I have a nine
to five, right, I make decent money there, right, so
I'm able to maintain a relationship in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Right.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
But like me, I'm in a different space than what
it sounds like she's talking about. It sounds like she's
talking about someone that doesn't that hasn't established themselves in anything.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
That was a man by the way. Oh that but
oh you read it out loud? Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
I was I was confused to say a woman. Do
you do you think that that's something that a woman
would say to women?

Speaker 8 (50:00):
Damn sure?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
When that a man should be established before getting a relationship.
They say it all day on the internet. They said
it all day on the internet. That was in many
different ways, in many different ways. Yeah, you gotta buy
me a Berkman, you can't. You shouldn't. You shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
You shouldn't DM me if you don't got no money,
you gotta pay if I'm if I'm in the grocery
line and you just want to talk to me, pay
for my groceries. They say it every day in multiple
different ways. And the cash up first, Yeah, like you shouldn't.
There's women out there right now with cash apps, the
cash up account in their profiles.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I think when you're a brand, you're a brand. It
is different.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
So they're not a brand. Soon they can't be a brand,
make no brand.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
It will be their birthday and they'll post the post
their cash. I got to do what I got to
tell everybody a brand, it's.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
We all bring I think we got a brand, brand name.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I will say something, although I disagree with you for
the most part, graduate one thing that you brought up.
I will say, like you should have a certain level
of discipline and emotional maturity before you consider being a relationship.
But I just feel like a lot of times the
narrative to your point on the internet broke niggas shouln't date.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's the part I disagree with, like't breathe there are.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
I'm a supportive of starving artists. I'm supportive of people
trying to figure it out. And like Tahoe's point, the
right partner will help you figure it out as long
as you're a good person. And that goes back to
the emotional maturity, because there's been times in my life
where I could say, nah, I was not ready for
a serious relationship.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I just wasn't there yet. So I can understand that part, right,
because I've been.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
In relationship where I didn't know what my purpose was
and and I was just trying to find my way
and it puts strain on my relationship.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
That wasn't fair to her. It wasn't fair to her.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
And like you said, women, women are great, women are
amazing creatures. Like I love women, like like my mom
gave me the the the appreciation that I have for women.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
At the end of the day. Single mom raised four boys, right,
four boys that are not dead or in jail.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I did my ship,
I get it. But I recovered from that, right, And
now I have a woman in my life that I adore, right,
and I don't I don't know if I would have
the idea to come up with a second podcast, if
she wasn't inspiring me every day, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm not discounting what women can bring to a
guy that's trying to find his way.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I'm not. But she's literally she's with another one. Maybe not,
maybe not.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
I'd have just been hyper focused on the one that
I have, you know, but she she she always talked
about you. You know, maybe you need to think about
something different.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Maybe. Uh.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
Basically she just throws ideas my way and I just
I just mull them over and they're like, you know what,
She's right, and that's what I'm talking about, right and
exactly what I'm And now you do work, you a man,
because if you're not there.

Speaker 9 (52:54):
And if you haven't done that work as a man,
where like, you know, we don't like taking directions for women,
like don't tell me to make a left if I'm
going right, Like, oh no, you can go this way, yo, yo,
I got it like that that submission, like taking directions
from women when we're still basically trying to prove ourselves
to ourselves and to them. So you've got to be
just have a certain amount of work that you have
done as a man to you know, allow her to

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give suggestions and listen. And I'm still doing that with
my lady right now.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
What do you think, Why do you think? Well? I
say women are the prize. Right. The reason I say
that is right, a man has to.

Speaker 7 (53:28):
Go out there and do a lot of hard work
and because of that hour work, he has earned something
and that's his prize.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I'm just saying. As soon as he said and soon
he said, men have the hard work died, I could
just know that we like general work hard, so we
get our prize right, right right, And that's why we're
the catch. Right.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
We go out there, we work hard, we get ourselves
to a certain level, and then we we a woman
catches us as.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
He sees us, or we choose her and she's either way.
To catch. Women are the prize.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Men are to catch.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, catch.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
I think we we fucked it up over over time,
but it's definitely. I think I think women are the
ultimate prize at the end of the day, because you,
as a man, you're supposed to go out there and
earn the right to pull her out of her daddy's house.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
It was like the big the big Teddy Bear that
you went at the carnival.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
Yeah, that's what we are hard to do it. Yeah,
at the end of the day, I think that's what.
I think, that's what and I think that's what's lost now.
It's lost now. And this is why the narrative is
so like all over the place nowadays. We we we
lost what we had, We lost the structure of what
things should be like.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
We lost it over time. We lost it over time.
You're about about to be mad at me. But modern feminism, feminism,
modern feminism, not feminism, modern feminists.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
Modern feminism is what what didn't it wasn't that. It
wasn't the men not saying raise their kids.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
No, I think it's modern feminism more than anything. Explain what.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Feminism because you have you have feminism in the past
right where where women wanted equal rights for to an
extent like equality equality and then move it right and
then moving moving forward, moving forward, everyone had It's kind
of like playing telephone right moving forward. Everyone had their
interpretation of what feminism is or what it should be,

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and then over time it just changed to except like
people like OnlyFans. It is literally a byproduct of feminism, Uh,
how do we get people want their independence?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Right, everybody? Yeah, but women want their independence. You are,
you can be.

Speaker 7 (55:50):
But what I'm saying is like that there's a certain
level of independence that's required to do certain things like
being on those yachts, other than sleeping with men, rich men,
going on trips, other than having rich men paid for it.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Right.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
So the easiest way to do that is what if
you can work? Right, but if you can make money
really fast, why not do it? If you got all
you gotta do is show your ass?

Speaker 8 (56:09):
What about drug dealers?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Same thing?

Speaker 8 (56:12):
So how do they fall into that equation of of
wanting to do things and have this this this uh.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Fast paper luxury fast paper focks up families?

Speaker 8 (56:21):
So okay, going back to.

Speaker 10 (56:23):
The original point, you're basically saying that we lost the
plot somewhere. Yes, And the the way that we lost
the plot is because women wanted to be independent.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
No, I said feminism, modern feminism, Modern feminism is Yeah,
it's hyper independence. So hyper it's more so hyper independence
because like you guys want not you guys, not all
of you.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
But the women that actually fall into that category, they
don't want to allow men to take care of them.
They want to be in a space where they don't
need a man, whereas when men make money they go
or a space where they want to take care of
their families.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Women make money do not need us at.

Speaker 10 (57:04):
The end of the day, had to be hyper independent
because the men were missing the mark. They were not
protecting the family, they were leaving the family, and they
were not not financially taking care of the family. There
is no way, no, There is very few women that
want to be hyper independent.

Speaker 8 (57:25):
But if you have a man that was never raised by.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
A man, if you chose a man, if you choose
a man that was.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
Never raised by a man, how can you lead if
you've never seen leadership? So why would I give you
the power to be the leader and you don't even
have your own shit together?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Why are you choosing a man that's not a leader.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
That's the question that needs to be asked because that's
a lot. See, that's that's lack of accountability right there
on the women's side, because if you are choosing men
that can't lead, that's on you.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
That's not on the man that's not leading. That is
on you.

Speaker 10 (58:06):
Because we were bred to think that men were natural
born leaders, so we falsely assumed that men had a
power that y'all didn't have. And then once we realize
that that wasn't the case, then you have to fit
for yourself because no, then you.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Have to leave.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
No, you have to leave because you will know, you
will know, you won't even have a family yet, you
will know if a man is not a leader was
in the first three months of talking.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
To the nigga.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
Dependent on what you understand.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
No, depending on what you're asking, you are If you're
not asking intentional questions to see if someone's a leader,
that's on you. If you don't know what questions to ask,
that's still on you.

Speaker 8 (58:46):
And who's teaching them what questions to ask?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
A clip? Let me see?

Speaker 8 (58:53):
And with money is expective to share.

Speaker 11 (58:55):
But a woman with money is till she doesn't need
a man same income totally differently, let me explain before
you get mad. In our culture, men are taught from
day one that if they're not earning, they're failing. If
they can't provide, they're not real men. If they don't
pick up the check, they're broker stingy. A man's value
is often reduced to his financial output. Now flip the
script when women become successful, we don't expect them to

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carry anybody. In fact, we celebrated as a form of freedom. Yes, queen,
you're independent. She doesn't need a man. He's expected to provide,
but she's expected to escape. Because if we really want partnership,
then we need to stop placing all the financial.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Burden on one side.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
Wow, that's what I'm trying to say. She said it
better than I could. I don't know, because that's what
we Oh, no, it's been.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
A music Oh what.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
Need no man? No.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Basically, basically, what's yours is yours, and what's mine is mine?
Like some shit like that, but.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
Is mine?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Yeah, some shit like that. So basically it's literally it's
it's fed to us.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
It's been fed to us, to her whole lives. Men
don't have more money, Okay, DoD you see.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I'm just saying, if that's what it is, and
we know that this is what it is, so why
where is the money?

Speaker 9 (01:00:14):
Why?

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
Why are we out earning and out independding the men?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Why because somebody wants to do this shit. I work
too hard.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
I don't want to do this.

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
I want to be a housewife. I want to sit
in the house. I want to make mimosas and wear
cute dresses, and I can't. And it's because of the
way that society is built.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
It is right now.

Speaker 10 (01:00:34):
So I'm not I am not a feminist by any
stretch of the imagination, but I do think that there
is onus that needs to be put on the generation
of men that did not raise their daughters on what
to look for and raise their sons on who they
were supposed to be. A lot of my generation are
hyper independent because our fathers failed, which is y'all generation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I'm not old enough to be a daddy. Yes you are.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
No, I'm not, you said nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I'm forty six. I'm ten years older than you. You
said it got them.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
But are you a part of their generation because they definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Years younger than me.

Speaker 9 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I'm not that much younger than you might have
had you when I was fourteen. But no, that was
the generation before me.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
So it was your fault that failed.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
But here's the thing, right, you got to think about
that fail, so you got it also thinking about what
happened to the black community.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
You keep saying that it wasn't fail.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
You can't do that gosh, listen, you're so intelligent, but
don't be selective with your understanding because it's because it's convenience,
you do know.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
But there's also a thing men that were in the South,
that were in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Black and men not into crack.

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
Black men got everywhere, and black communities suffered because of
the way the government did black communities, red lining welfare
after the war, big enough women and putting men in
bigging up the black women and putting men in jail,
like privatizing the jails and making it like a thing
for them to make money off of us being incarcerated.

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They broke our families the fuck up. They broke the
man down. They gave the women more power. They said, hey,
and by the way, you get even more if you
don't have that nigga there. If that nigga who we
locked up and we did this through the system, if
he stays there, you can't get this extra assistance.

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Then they gave you the power in the court. That's
the accountability that they don't want to take down.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
But it's the accountability that's not that doesn't want to
be taken because like it's easy, it's easy to say
it's yeah. But what I'm saying is it's easy to
just say men right, but it's also it's also not
men's fault.

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
I know it's not my fault, but you have to
know the question is A line to the question is
like you said that the reason why we are like
the world is the way it is because of hyper
independence from women, as you are, as we're having this
common of understanding the byproduct of how we got here.

Speaker 8 (01:03:03):
I don't think.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
I think that it's it's disingenuous to make it about
women and not also add men into the equation.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
No woman wants to be hyper independent. We were bred
this way.

Speaker 10 (01:03:19):
And then on top of that, I think that it
is also not fair to speak on the choices that
women made when it came to certain men if there
was no one there to teach us better the old
we don't know these things.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
Through osmosis. I learned how I learned.

Speaker 10 (01:03:36):
Discernment, and I learned how to vet properly in dating
after spending three years in therapy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
That shit did not happen through osmosis.

Speaker 10 (01:03:46):
So I think that it's not fair to blame women
for that, or we're gonna have to everybody gonna have
to take.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Blame or if we're gonna blame one side, I'm blaming
the other.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
And it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
I think ultimately we all agree that there's some shared
responsibility women, right, but I think it's a dangerous thing
when we're talking about men. Let's stick to the subject
and let's deal with the men and their issues and
if we're talking about women that because he mentioned modern feminism,
like it felt like it's a it's a did the

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conversation to the service to immediately deflect and be like, oh, well,
what about the niggas is doing it? Like, no, we
just had to why we can't just focus on obviously
that the responsibilities is shared, but let's focus on one subject,
like at some point we have to address the women's
role in the modern feminist role. And this is a
good conversation. We didn't need to derail it with like

(01:04:39):
what about the niggas?

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Don't do this and don't do that.

Speaker 10 (01:04:42):
You're missing the origin of the conversation. I said, who
was that fault? He said modern feminism? And then we
had we both answered one question, so it wasn't derailed.
He had his pov, I had my pov. Nobody derailed
the conversation. This is how I see the disruption of
where we are as far as dating and family is,
and he sees it a different way. I never derailed

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the conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
I understand that as the conversation evolved. I feel like
every step of the way, it was like it was
always a way for it to be the niggas faults.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
It's not the nigga's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
My bad.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
Sorry, I think I think it's always if you look
at it, it breaks down to broken families.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Right at the end of the day, it is broken.

Speaker 10 (01:05:22):
Fast to leave the family more because the bitches be
stuck with these kids. The niggas be making more kids
with other bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
But when we look at when we look at the
divorce numbers, right, and we look at who files for divorce, right,
it's mainly women, right, So they're leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
So when you look at those numbers and you see
that they're the ones that's leaving, right, they're okay leaving
because they have a whole system that's going to hold them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Down and give them the the the illusion of independence.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
If you are saying, hey, because I have six kids,
I'm gonna get this amount of money from the government.
I'm going to pay a dollar ninety nine for rent
for place. Someplaces it's going to cost two thousand dollars. Like,
why do you feel you need a man? If these
are things that are going to be in place, right,
you could just say, you know what, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 7 (01:06:07):
He's cheating too much or whatever it is that he's doing.
You leave, and then you have this lovely cushion to
land on, where niggas don't have no cushion to land on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I have another clip.

Speaker 9 (01:06:18):
I'm sorry, y'all, I'm clipping it out today, but y'all
are hitting marks. And these are things that I wasn't
even sureall was going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
But let's see if I can.

Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
Men will put their family before their happiness and women
will put their happiness before their family.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I've heard that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:36):
Claim, especially made by men who have been burnt dealing
with broken women, and my answer to that is it's
not true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
It's not a gender specific thing. It's not men do this,
women do that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:47):
The reality is that selfish, emotionally immature, broken people put
their happiness before their family. The difference between men and
women is and I'm sorry if this is sexist, but
it's true. When a man is selling fish and puts
his happiness before his family, the family can basically go
on without him and continue to function. When a woman, however,

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puts her happiness.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Before her family, that destroys the home.

Speaker 12 (01:07:12):
It's devastated, even for generations. And that's why it's more noticeable,
and that's why it's more egregious.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
But there are plenty of women who put their family.

Speaker 12 (01:07:22):
Before their happiness, and they live a life of loneliness,
of a lack of emotional connection, maybe even they're being mistreated.
They choose to endure it to hold the family together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
And you cannot say there are women who do that.
They are women who do that every single day for
years and have been doing that throughout history.

Speaker 12 (01:07:39):
But like I said, when they do it, it's not
noticeable because the family isn't falling apart because of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
The selfishness of the husband.

Speaker 12 (01:07:46):
Whereas when you reverse it, when the woman is selfish,
the family will fall apart, and everyone notices.

Speaker 8 (01:07:52):
That woman is the one that has to keep for
shit together and the men they all right.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
So I'm glad that you agree with that, and I'm
really not. I'm on both everybody's side here, I'm not.
I don't have a you know what I mean. But
if you agree with that, then how can't you understand
that modern feminism could be what destroyed the relationship If

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you're saying, hey, the women that are not valuing the
family and more into themselves, right, that's what that's what
he was saying into this right. When that happens, the
breakup in the family, the effect on the family is
more devastating. So if we go back to what glad
he said, then he's saying the onness of what's happening

(01:08:41):
in the community in our homes is sorry. I'm sorry
because listen, I'm gonna put on everybody. I'm on everybody's side.
I'm on everybody's side. But if you're gonna agree with this,
then you would have to at least hear him out
when he's saying. When he's saying, hey, that hyper independence
thing where women are basically saying fuck that, I'm out
for me, I don't need you would be more devastating to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
The community, you know than men doing it. When you're
saying drug dealers and shit like that. This kind of
just clipped that's so fucked up. Why you disagree with it?

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
No, no, no, no, you don't.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
I was agreeing to the thought process of the importance
of the woman. I understand that as a woman, dull like,
I get that part, But that's not that kind of
is a bigger conversation versus the one that I bought up.

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
I think that it's a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
Different because I'm was specifically speaking about the fact that
when we're talking about dating and how things are right now,
how do we get here? What you're talking about is
something completely different. But I will accept that. I will
accept it, But I don't think that those I think
those are false equivalencies. That what that means to me

(01:10:01):
is that women have to continuously put their happiness to
the side, because the moment that a woman chooses their happiness,
everything fucking crumbles.

Speaker 8 (01:10:14):
But it doesn't do that with the man. And that's
a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
It's marriage around happiness, I would because based on what
we were talking about earlier, I get cheated or I
was supposed to say, I won't be happy in that situation.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
You'll get happy eventually.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Yeah, But like marriage, marriage is not about happiness. Marriage
is about respect, sacrifice, and all the other stuff like
like compromise, like you sick this into health till death?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Do is part better or worse? Right? Being unhappy is
about being worse. It's about the worst side, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:44):
I do agree what you're saying, Gosh that this clip
in itself had, but a complete different conversation, right, I
do agree with that, But I do believe that it
taps into a larger conversation when we're talking about the
hyper independence of women, and I think that I think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Glady, it's I understood your point.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
I'm not sure if I can agree with it being
the start of it, because you would that's kind of
you trying to do a chicken and the egg thing,
But that would have to come back to them having
to have to do that, right, And so there's always
going to be a generational thing that's an effect of
what happened before. Right, So if there are no men

(01:11:32):
there and we're choosing ourselves, because yeah, they were smoke racked,
we were selling crack.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
We was promoting it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:41):
The music, the culture, everything was promoting do you fuck
these bitches?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Get money?

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
They were there, right, mob money over bitches. The ladies
was there, right. The tip drill video, just bunch of
bees shooting ass and you swiping shit through they ass,
or the rolling down the street smoking indoor with the
chronic and you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Just pouring beer on chicks. They was there.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
This affected them, Right, So once they get their own
power and they don't have to slet themselves out or
they don't have to be dehumanized into or objectified based
off their body or their looks or whatever it may be,
and say, you know what, I don't need you, nigga,
y'all ain't gonna put me in this the video. I'm
just not gonna be a video chick. I'm gonna you
know what I mean, a rap and then I'm gonna
power these these chicks. Or I'm gonna say my name,

(01:12:28):
say my name. You ain't gotta fucking just do whatever
he said this you got power to right, that can
also be looked at as an effect of what happened prior,
which would point to the men.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
But there's always gonna be something before something, right, But
you started it when you said modern feminism.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
You didn't point to what happened before.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
That, right, That was my only point.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Right, But again, I when I pointed to modern feminism
I'm talking about, like, this is why we're experiencing what
we're experencing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Right, But we can go back to why my feminism
came into place.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
That will go back to feminism, and feminism will go
back to saying, you know what, we can do exactly
everything that men can do, right, which is a false
base to even build anything on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Right, you can't do everything a man can do. It's impossible.

Speaker 8 (01:13:17):
Actually it's the other way around. Y'all can't do everything
that we can do, but we could definitely do everything
that y'all can do. All that is can't have a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
I mean I can't do that, but you can't get.
You can't produce.

Speaker 9 (01:13:29):
It's not just I can't get. No, let me soften
this blow for you. I definitely can't do everything that
a woman can do.

Speaker 8 (01:13:37):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
But I don't believe that a woman can do everything
that a man can do.

Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
What is something that a man has done that a
woman cannot do?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Give me two between the legs. There you go, done done. Impossible. No,
that's what I'm saying. It's from getting a woman pregnant. Yeah,
you can't produce. You just said have a baby, but
you can't get a woman press.

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
I cannot get a woman pregnant, but I can actually
produce life.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
You cannot. I am producing life by getting you pregnant.
You you did that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:07):
You put yourself in that corner by asking me, by
telling me have a baby. You can't have a baby
without me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Fact, you can't. I didn't actually do that. You did that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
He was still from a man, no matter how you
put it. Those are the two things that are that
are exclusive to one another.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Fine, right, but.

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
Outside of that, outside of that, give me, give me
something else. For instance, all right, they don't get me wrong,
they will be outliers. Right, fifty push ups straight, simple simple.

Speaker 10 (01:14:39):
Saying that most women cannot do fifty straight push ups.
So all them bites that's in the military, all ambities
that's in there. That they are doing the same amount
of push ups.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
They're not doing the same. They're not doing the same.
They're not doing the same.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
You will not find any video of them doing as
much push us as the nigga that could do the
most push ups in the military period.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
It's impossible. Physically, you just can't do it. Okay, physically
can't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
You there's no muscle group in your body that's stronger
than the mass generally, generally, there's none.

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
And a woman that's stronger than a man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Not your baby longer than me. We don't have a uterus, but.

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
That's stronger than anything in a man's body.

Speaker 9 (01:15:18):
You ever try to hold the baby while you're cooking
food your home girl in the phone home, there's no
muscle longer than There's no muscle group in a woman
that is stronger than the Have you ever tried to
hold a baby while seasoning chicken and talking to your
homegirl on the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
What muscle group is that? Because they can do that?

Speaker 9 (01:15:39):
Ship and I think all of them could do it,
and they be shaking the baby and they be gossiping,
They be like this, and that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Nigga wasn' ship. That nigga was over by debracrip.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
You try to do that, do that's called hyperindependence. That's
a raise, that's hyper independence. Get your man to hold
the baby, multit, get your man to hold the baby,
hold the baby as long as women hold the baby.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
You don't want to have multiple, bro, There's no way
at the end of the day, bro, because there's a
maternal instinct. There's a there's a maternal instinct that comes
with that, right, strength that comes with that. They build
it from somewhere. Sorry, there's no way I'm talking them
from a technical, scientific general standpoint. There's no way women

(01:16:27):
are not stronger than men, and no aspect physically, no
physical aspect.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
There of men.

Speaker 9 (01:16:38):
Say they feel unacknowledged in relationships unless they are producing
or providing. Even the strongest men want to feel This
is about eight at the table. Even the strongest men
want to feel seen beyond what they produce. When a
man's worth is only tied to what he brings financially,
emotional burnout follows. True partnership starts when he's value you,

(01:17:00):
not just as a provider, but as a person. Psychologists
call this conditional validation a key driver, a silent resentment
in relationships. You keep saying good for him, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Give a fuck you.

Speaker 10 (01:17:13):
Today is one of the days that's really like niggas like,
I don't care about you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Got the Sanders on.

Speaker 8 (01:17:22):
I can't. I can't go making my head hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Why you've been doing this yo? The last episode you
been doing this too? What's going on with you and this?
You are more understanding. Well, I remember a couple of
years you was in this these niggas.

Speaker 8 (01:17:36):
Back this is dusty, dusty, but kind of got out
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
But lately you've been what's going on? When of your
homegirls got cheated on something? What's going on.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
I'm just I'm just tired.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
But you have a man. I have My man is
not if that's the case the rest of me, because
that's that's the problem to you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:57):
You're not doing the science. Since she's came back from
the wedding, she's been looking at niggas like filth. She's
looking at niggas like the scum of the earth. Just
do the science, how just just do it? Just think
about a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
We have not gotten any bail since she's gotten back. None,
no bail. We're just talking about. It's like yo, She's like, yeah,
fuck y'all niggas. Yeah, fuck, What the fuck did we
do to you?

Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
Exists?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
We rely to you, Bro.

Speaker 9 (01:18:22):
I'm out there looking for a crib and I was
speaking about this the emasculation, right you feel man for
eight hundred thousand dollars crib bro, and Taro wants to
talk to you and your fiance about this bro, The
fucking mortgage came back at eight thousand a month. Yep,
but all of the houses even so matter of fact,

(01:18:42):
the mortgage for the seven hundred thousand dollars house was
like eight thousand, eight thousand a months. That means even
if I get a rental for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Three thousand, say you rent something for three thousand, me and.

Speaker 9 (01:18:55):
My fiance gotta come up with five thousand every month
for thirty years.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
And that's why I don't have a house yet.

Speaker 9 (01:19:04):
I got so quiet, Bro, I got because I'm approved
for whatever, right, but can I afford to pay that
every month?

Speaker 8 (01:19:15):
You know, you just gotta pray for a war, for
the stock market to crash and and revisit all this.

Speaker 9 (01:19:22):
But it's kind of still like as a man, like damn,
I'm looking at like, yo, you know, I had found
his creator had four bedrooms. That means me and her
got to create a room. Her daughters get a room,
my son's got a room. And they come over. I
was like yeah, and the nigga was like, yeah, your
your mortgage is gonna be sixty three hundred a month.
And that's that's that's after the rent because the renting

(01:19:45):
the apartment was in there, So their mortgage is eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Eight eighty eight hundred a month. You know how that
made me feel as a man?

Speaker 8 (01:19:59):
How did it? But why did that make you feel
a way as a man?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Because I can't provide, I can't, We can't afford.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
This, nobody can. This is why nobody's buying houses right now.
That's why they're so inflated.

Speaker 10 (01:20:11):
And you can go look at that same house and
go back ten years ago and that house is probably
worth five hundred seventy's. It's unsustainable right now. This is
why these houses are sitting there. So why is it
that you're looking at it as a deficit of you
versus the fact that the economy is fucked up?

Speaker 8 (01:20:29):
And this is a by product.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I understand exactly how to feel. It's just a feeling
that you have. All of us in this room are
doing well for ourselves. But when your partner wants something
and you just can't because the math ain't mathing, you
just ain't all the way there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
It does it hits.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
It's not like you're a bum ass nigga, but it's like,
damn man, I wish I was like in a higher
tax backer where I could afford certain things.

Speaker 7 (01:20:54):
I know that women do feel this way, but as
a man, I don't. I'm not even gonna I don't
want to compare it. But I feel like I'm supposed
to show up. I feel like I'm supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
To be able to do this.

Speaker 7 (01:21:08):
And while so, when I told her that, she's like, Okay,
so that ain't gonna work or whatever, But she went
off and started taking care of the cats I just
got or whatever. She's doing her things and I'm sitting
there trying to figure out what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
That's not a shit.

Speaker 9 (01:21:20):
I don't feel like she's sitting there trying to figure
out what to do. Like she's like, he's going to
figure it out and then he'll come to me with
a situation that we can work through.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
But I gotta figure it out. That's how I feel,
and I feel like that's what men often feel. And
when you can't, that's not a laughing matter. You fucking
laugh That's not a laughing matter.

Speaker 8 (01:21:39):
I'm not laughing at you right now. Be happy, I'm listening.

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
But I think that goes to her point that she
said earlier about the mental health aspect of there. Right,
see how deep you're thinking about it without Uh, well,
I'm not sure if you had the conversations talk how
you told her how you feel like one on one
versus you know her potentially seeing on the podcast, but
like like going to her like they you know, I
do feel some kind of way that I can't do
this for us right now, I'm not gonna say that, right,

(01:22:07):
that's what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna say I
can't gonna figure it out. But then we hold it,
We hold it in, we try to figure it out.
Whereas she might even have the idea that might make
it work.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
I didn't work right work, so but mom actually gave
it to it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:19):
And then I've been ignoring it since the beginning, the
times it's beginning, I've been ignoring it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
But I don't want to listen to your mom.

Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
Why would you ever listen to the women in your life?

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
In any case?

Speaker 9 (01:22:31):
This little quote here, I'm pretty sure a lot of
men out there and feel it. And although I might
have the solution because she and her mom gave me
the solution, most men don't make what I make, right,
I would think, right, I've seen her. I've seen a
quote that said only eighteen percent of men make between

(01:22:55):
one hundred and one hundred and forty six thousand dollars. Yeah,
only eighteen percent of most don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
And that's men in general. That even if you break
it down that black men, right, and the cost of
life is going up, it's getting worse and worse, right,
And so I can.

Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
Imagine there's a lot of men out there that are
in society and the way society is right now, and
women are excelling at levels.

Speaker 7 (01:23:23):
Unprecedented, unprecedented. They are smoking us in almost every category.
But yet we're still supposed to be the protectors, the providers,
the leaders that know what to do right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
According to this one, we're supposed to get less sleepposed
to get less sleep.

Speaker 9 (01:23:42):
And it's just like it can be, Gladdy, I'm glad
you said it, the mental health part, but it can
be very debilitating.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
It can be. But we still got to do it
because we still got to be men at the end
of the day. You know, like, what does that mean?
That means?

Speaker 7 (01:23:55):
That means we still got to get up and do
it because at the end of the day, no one's
going to do it for us. Right, We can't work
in McDonald's and some rich lady comes in and say, oh,
I would marry you, versus the other way around. We
can walk in McDonald's are baddie and be like, you
know what, you don't have work here no more?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
You know what I'm saying. It goes back to the
video you played early with the lady saying, you know
when when men go out there and make a lot
of money, is to take care of everything and take
care of the family.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
Where's the other way around? It's not really that generally, right.
There are some women out there that will do that right,
and I get it and and shout out to them. Right,
But at the end of the day, men can't expect
it as much as women can expect it and demand
it and demand it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
They feel it. A lot of not everyone, but a
lot of women feel entitled to it without putting in
any of the work.

Speaker 9 (01:24:40):
Teump, you were speaking on the feelings that I was having,
and I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Cut you off. What is the answer to that? I
mean that healthy answer to it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
By the way, I think Grady kind of hit it,
hit the nail on the head. It's like, we're gonna
have those feelings. It's good to acknowledge, it's good to
talk about it, but at the end of the day,
you just gotta do it, Like we just gotta like
take it and hopefully it'll motivate you instead of keep
you down, you know what I mean. Like every day
I think about things that I want to do in

(01:25:14):
my life, and I'm like, Yo, if I had a
lot more money, things would be a lot smoother and
I would feel better about myself. And I was very
candid on this podcast about it when we talked about, like, yo,
you've been engaged five years, how come y'all not married yet?
A big part of it is like I don't want
to spend the money in a wady now. If money
wasn't an issue in my life, we would have had
a big ass breading years ago. I'm just being honest.

(01:25:36):
So there's a part of me, like, you know, there's
a certain life that I would have loved to provide
that just financially just don't make sense for me right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
That doesn't mean I'm a broke as Bumman's nigga, So
I'm not like depressed about it. But to Tahoe's point,
sometimes it'll make you feel the ways so I try
to use that as motivation. So there's a balance between
using it as motivation and understanding that feeling of slight emasculation,
like just don't let it get you down, but try

(01:26:05):
to use it as fuel, you know what I mean.
At the same time, because at the end of the day,
like Graddy said, we gotta just do it. You got
to figure sh out because ain't nobody gonna figure it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Out for us.

Speaker 9 (01:26:17):
Okay, yep, well here's me trying to figure it out
your podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
I'm gonna have to to do something. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. I bought my motherfucking uh fiance two cats,
kind of kittens. Mm hm be great, bro, don't ask.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Me m I'm still tripping over this ship. I was
like you, I ain't no cats for sale. I thought
you just find them. Yeah, she would chase them down
the street. I'm telling you, we're gonna look at houses.
She's in the backyard trying to fucking steal a cat. Okay,
like it's a k mother is over there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Kick your trust me. It's not gonna be pretty. She
come back. She didn't give a funk about the backyard.
She just wanted the cat. All right, y'all, So you
stole the cat. No, she couldn't get she couldn't catch
up with the cat. She chased it around, she couldn't
catch she couldn't catch up with it. I know she's
in there somewhere, like I did not chase it. Yeah,

(01:27:28):
I bought four four.

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
I bought two for my I bought one for my mom,
one for my son's, two for my package. Yeah, there's
a whole litteral So I was like, oh, you know what,
I just get them all and my mom loves what
are you looking.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
At me like that? For just love? Got I got
pets on and bulk.

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
Well, and then my sons want you know, they had
one and they just jumped out the window trying to
escape from the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Virgo h bro wrapped. Yeah, please please get us. Yeah,
that's it. So shame Gladdy Gladdy.

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
Matter of fact, before we Glad Gladdy, I keep calling
flatty Laddy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Where can they find you? Where can they find you?

Speaker 7 (01:28:27):
They can find find me at UH at Toxic with Benefits.
They can find me at g l x d x
m x R all on UH just on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
It's literally my first name with no bid out. What
did you just say, uh, is my name Gladimar, but
you remove all of the vowels and put axcess. So
the g l x d x m x R versus
g l A d I M A R. And keep
an eye out for Whiskey Balls coming soon. Can you
text me all that I remember we.

Speaker 9 (01:28:56):
Want to see him and go to his pages in
the description of this video, all right, and he will
all his information will be there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Asks. I want to thank you again for inviting me on.
Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
Oh you definitely be back, definitely fat great guys. Thank
you so much, bro, And hopefully I get invited over
there with to t w B.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Honestly, I would love to have you on Whiskey Balls
before t w B. I want you. I want to
have you both either way, either way both you come
to the Boat podcast. Yeah, come the Boat all all
you Yeah, definitely, oh yeah, for the for the event

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