She Ate I Fear... Feat @IamDavida.D (part two)

Welcome Back to Part Two of our amazing episode with Host and Comedian Davida.D! We get right back ingto it with men not having the appropriate selfcare items in the house, dating in an open relationship, a woman that says she will iron her husbands clothes before he goes to see his side chick, men basing their relationship values on their ego vs what women base their relationship values on and Jess Hilarious triggers the LGBTQIA community. ENJOY!!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, and so so
so shameless. If you know what I'm saying, so shameless,

(00:30):
if you know what I'm saying, so shameless.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Say if you.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
I'm saying, so shames.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
It is somebody told me that I need hand soap. Yeah,
and my problem with people telling me that I need
hand soap was that, Why are you getting at me
about it? That's my wife, jod Jesus Christ. Niggas don't
put hand soap in their bathrooms like what.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Nigga used that use the use the soap that you got,
like the soap that you use for your body.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yes, I keep telling you you're disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, you're really nasty. So if you go to a
nigga house and you don't have hand soap, you go
think he's nasty.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, I make sure that when I'm actually really invested
in the man, I changed many things about him exactly himself.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I clean myself. What are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
It's not hand hand so every man that I date,
I introduced them to exfoliant gloves, and I buy them
some and put it in there, the.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Lot loofah gloves, which is ye, niggas is not putting
up you really think niggas is putting on exfoliant gloves
like regularly, yes, man, you bugging.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I've gotten so many like text messages like oh my god,
like you've changed my life yo.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Fun fact, I even sent the ships. I sent him,
like a.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Pack of them was Irish Spring when.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
We met gloves for your body, and that is the
Irish Spring.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
He's going to say he wasn't, so let me just
say he's gonna deny it. He said it, and now
years later he's like, I never was using it, but okay, gosh,
you're g mem checked down.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Hold on.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
My husband. He did have a loof but now he
has one gloves and it's so good for you.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So before the show we started this, right it's and
we were talking about the things that are that men
have in their bathroom that make women think, you know, comfortable,
and I think I think Da Vita or said something
like an.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Extra toothbrush, actually toothbrushes. Okay, right, I.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Said Okay, a good dater will have a pack of
extra toothbrushes in his ship. It doesn't bring no red flags.
Guess what you're fave said.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Please guess what he said? Please guess what he said?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Why am I getting attacked? What did I said yesterday?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
What did you say?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Tell you what you have?

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
My god? All right?

Speaker 7 (03:15):
So basically we were talking, so I was like, oh, like,
so I'm like, so just.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Say it, just say you know what I mean trying
to say, trying to.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Say, trying to send me up with my favor. I
don't like it.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I'm like, you know, I'm always on your side. What's up?
What happened for?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
All right?

Speaker 7 (03:33):
So it's seemingly I just so happened to have an
extra I had a box of pads left and.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yep, right face, right face, right face, yep, right face.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
So PA say it again?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Okay, no that flag day like going off pads? But
what with different colors?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yes, you had a box of.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Just in case you wake up with your cycle. Baby,
here's some pads. Like what to a rando.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Does that? You got the light and you got the
light regular and supers.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hello, First of all, I got the regular.

Speaker 7 (04:32):
First of all, don't don't say randos. I don't deal
with randos. So let's let's get it. Okay, So what's worse.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
You're giving a rando a pad or you're shorty a
pad from somebody else.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I didn't say my shorty either way either way.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
But what I'm saying is somebody and somebody wakes up
on your cycle, and you know, whatever happens, you know, okay, cool,
you know it's nature can't help.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
So nobody said.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Flag, No, you don't have it like that. That's that's improbable.
Because if I'm about the goal for a booty call,
you feel me, and I know my period is looming,
I'm not going or I'm coming with my own ship

(05:20):
prepared because I'm an adult. If I come over to
your house already with my period, okay, that's one thing.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
But why but why why would I need you to
provide that for me? I am? Do you hear this?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
No?

Speaker 7 (05:35):
What I said was it happened one time? So I
went out, I got some they used one.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
How long ago was that yesterday?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
This is a while ago. This wasn't like, yeah, this
has to be ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
First of all, I don't care if it was eons ago,
if it was ten years ago that you had pass
in your house is a red flag bath you know,
as a woman, when we go in your bathroom, we
go through your ship. If I opened the draw and
if I opened the cover and then I saw a pad,
and then and you live with your I literally would

(06:09):
be like, wait a minute, he has a girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I got to get the out of here, he said
to somebody else before right there, just right there, she
you're gonna trigger her with the fact that you have pads.
You're not not.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
That's not help. You know what you need?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
You need baby wipes, you need an extra extra toothbrush,
right and that's it, you don't and maybe some cream,
you know, get you some some nice little body butter
just in case.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
So she's not.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
So, I told her that I also had extra x
L towels and that raised the flag.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Ya ya yo. You see every time I get your check,
this is what I don't get.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Get nig.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
You don't we like the flowering said what shot? He
said from Madagascar? He was like, I like the big
tower for me. He was real clear with you gotta
make sure that the freaking beat baby, he said, I

(07:26):
don't like the preparations. Finest is that not being prepared, No,
that is very proper playing.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
It prevents poor performances. You you got it, friend, just in.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
The paths out the house, because that is wild. I
wish I would catch a period. My bo mistake got
a nigga house and he like, I got passed for
you out the door. It's drying it.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm telling you it's already eating.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
But he said in the guysdamn the baby am owl.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Putting that thought in your in her head that you
had other bitches in here, you really like they already
know that, But you don't want to.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
You don't want to.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Put You can't have like a flat iron in there.
You can't have like consider.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
I have a big comb extra bond like like the
ones that come in the pack.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, it don't matter if it was in a pack.
You shouldn't have it.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
In our town.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Forget it.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
You supposed to get that bit of rag on being
dead a cock on talking about I got the c
shirt for you. You can wrap that around your head.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Like right, I got double all right, I got double A.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I got double pillow cane telling you to wrap your
head with that like yesterday, crazy medium talking about I
got extra large shirts?

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Who nigga shirt? Isn't this tow.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
You?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
As?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I love you so much? Fave?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
I swear being so considerate but being reflagged all the
way down.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
The house friend last episode, Yo, y'all are fucking nuts.
Yeah thing last episode, God spoke about how much she
loves gender roles. Right, yeah, a young lady spoke not
necessarily on gender roles. But I want to know where

(09:20):
y'all stand with this conversation. Play it.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
I'm listening. He does have rules.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
He has rules in the household too, so I do
have to tell him when someone's coming over.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
He he does have a time limit.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
We got to wrap this up at nine o'clock.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Everyone's out. I had to beg him to have like.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
A holiday party or something at her house, and he
had to know who was coming and when it's time
for them to be out. And I remember I wanted
to fight that so bad, and I was.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Like, you know what, No, this is his house. He
pays these bills.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
I used to be embarrassed when people would see or
like friends would come over, we'd be around each other
and they would see that he was.

Speaker 9 (10:04):
Pretty like.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
He laid out the rules, and I was like, oh,
this looks embarrassing because he looks a little like this
could be controlling or whatever.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
I know I cannot be controlled.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
About me, but.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
I respect his rule allowing your man to have his
rules and that's very manly and obey them.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Be quiet and obey those rules.

Speaker 10 (10:32):
Do you hear, y'all?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
It's attractive and you can choose to see it that way, like, yeah,
he does have his rules.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Be out by nine. See ya, that's cute. I like
that does up?

Speaker 11 (10:48):
Mmm?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Wow, what the fuck you want from us? Because you
already know we not going like.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I don't even know why this way? Wait a minute,
what excuse you start at eight? So why we y'all not?
I'm confused. I'm confused on where to respect began and
the respect ended because apparently she don't even realize she's
being disrespected.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Period. I ain't disrespected, easy, you're not speaking to me.
This should be a compromising rule of our house. We
both live here.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
It should not be your way or no way in
the high way. Hell to the now. This is where
one hundred percent versus one hundred percent, And when you
want equal in your relationship, this is where equality come in.
This is where compromising come in. This is where your
communication comes in. If you say, Babe, I'm not that social,
you know I'm not that social, So I prefer us

(11:39):
I have events at the house. If we do have
events at the house, I gotta be in the daytime.
I'd be like, that's cute. That's what I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna say that's cute.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's cute. It's crazy that you're listening to what he is.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
It means that I accept what you said. It just
means that I'm gonna work.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, you're playing. You just said it. You said this cute,
and I'm gonna do what he said. You just said,
I'm not when I'm trying to the rules.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Know what I'm trying to say is I said that's cute.
I'm just acknowledging. What the hell I'm acknowledging your emotions
and feelings and I'm saying that's cute.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
But we're going to compromise on the household we live in.
If it's your house.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
All the bills and you're what is happening here.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
That's not what's happening in my household. Though my man
is not paying all the bills. I'm not doing that.
I'm sorry, and I respect that.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
I respect it.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
But if you take whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Or does that happen in this house, if he's paying
all the bills, just saying.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
No, no, that's I think that is because now I'm
a whole I'm monetary.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
You're paying me to do what you tell me to do.
Funk out of here. I think that.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
To answer your question, yes, but I think that's why
there should be no situation where somebody has one hundred
percent responsibility over the finances of the house, because then
it's like, this is a house. You can make the rules.
It's like I'm living home with my parents, my house.
My rules under my roof is that d D. Like
I'm an adult, I live in this house. I'm going
to contribute to this household that I live in as well.

(13:13):
You can pay one hundred percent of the rent, but
I'm gonna pay one hundred percent of the bills.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Because I ability need in this house as well.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I think that when I speak about genderals, that is
not what the fuck I'm talking I don't know what
the fuck she talking about. I do understand people that
might not be as social like me.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
I have a social battery.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I'm very cognizant of that, and all the people that
love me know what that happens. So I say to
people all the time my house is open. When my
social battery runs out, I'm going the fuck to bed.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
None of y'all have to get out.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Y'all can say as long as y'all want, but when
I retire, leave me the fuck along. Y'all can do
whatever it is that y'all want to do, because I
think that that is the compromise, right.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
But at the end of the day, I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
He has his rules, and I think, like, the only
rules in my house are the rules of my relationship,
and that has nothing to do with a guest in
my house. That's kind of weird to me, and it
is controlling, But then it's also you know, it's controlling.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
That's why you're saying, you know, can't nobody control me?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
He obviously that man when she got a curfew with
your friends, when she says she was embarrassed when he
lay down the rules.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Girl, the fact that you feel embarrassed is stayed. Like
exit stage left. Let me ask you a question with
the wrong person.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Is it as crazy as it sounds when a man
says he has rules, when a woman says she has
rules for the house.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
What are the rules? I need to hear what the
rules are? Now?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
She tells me, I can't walk in the house with
my sneakers on.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
You can walk in the house with your sneakers on.
It's your house if you both live there.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's why the.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Fuck is you walking in the house with your sneakers on? Though?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is that not a rule?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
It's not a rule, it's a courtesy, Like that's just
that's just like brought up.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
See, like, what do you mean nigga studios?

Speaker 5 (15:05):
This is a studio. You see the cameras, I see them. Girl,
I'm in a stool and.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
For years I didn't wear sniggers in here, and you
were sucking.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Up my face about, yes, I having shoes on in here.
Y'all know because y'all listen to people that listen to
the show. Y'all know, you know how much money.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I spent on my shoes and I can't show them
on camera feet today? Honey, always fuck up my.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Fist, always talking about brought up, brought up when I said, no,
we're not doing that in here.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
And I used to do it, but grudgingly, begrudging, But
I did it.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
So I was introducing brought up ce to you and
you were on that studio. You're doing that with your
face because you know you're bugging out studio. Are there
other rules that women set in the house and they're.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Okay, I don't. I honestly, what I think is not
a sense of rules. All right?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
The girl, that girl, that crazy girl, she's living under rules. Okay,
she might as well just clock and she a kid, there.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Are So go ahead, because I want to hear the
rest of this because you're you're trying to put it
to the side when you know there are rules that
women set.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Now, no, I agree that there's rules that women set.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
But what I'm saying is is that what I was
about to say was me personalizing. I'm not like og, well, young,
young and dumb right there, no shade, sorry, little girl, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Bad, my bad.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
But either way, what I'm trying to say is is
that everyone has a way in which y'all live and
the way y'all were brought up.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Now, you gotta live together.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Y'all have to compromise within each other, between each other.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
The best way to live together. But if you're with.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
The person that you're supposed to be with matter, it
don't matter.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
None of that matters. Damn traveling shit. Those is all
all that should live in my house too. Wow. But
I'm just saying the one that the one is the homemaker,
makes the rules. Fuck y'all.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yes, there are ten thousand pillows on my bed. Go
to fucking hell.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Can use a decorative towel, hand towel for your okay,
use a hand towel for your hands if you come
in the bathroom. Don't use the regular towel because that's
somebody's towel in this house.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Is a hand towel. It's blue, it has a B
on it for my last name.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Use that fucking towel. Fuck y'all. Got that's fine. There's
certain ship that you just you.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I'm sorry it makes me cringe. And why are you
opening up mad boxes of.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Cereal at the same time? Are you good?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
See? These are what they talk about.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I can't like, I can't I can't want the honey
boxes of oats.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
I think I think it's only okay, like women rules
are only okay because there's definitely women rules.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
As a matter of fact, I'll throwing out there women rule.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
Not everybody doesn't go by this, but coming home after
a certain time three, four, five o'clock in the morning, lost.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
See what I'm just what'll were talking about?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Now you got them.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
What I'm saying is is like, if my husband or
whoever I'm living with at the time, go, hey, I'm
coming home at three, four o'clock in the morning, okay,
do so see you at four am.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
You know what I'm saying. But at four five?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
See you at four five? Like, shit, it's not that major.
I know you're coming home late. But if you play
a sick game and you walk out the house and
be like, oh, I'm gonna be out and be back
in about nine and it's now five in the morning,
I haven't heard from you. Yeah, we have problems because
I have open communication. If you'd be like, yo, I'm
at a shorty and dah da da da, I'm like, oh, okay,

(18:48):
we have an open communication in every relationship I'm in.
I've been in an open relationship before, so this is
me just making a conversation being in an open relationship
in my previous you know, dating life.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
I need you to communicate if they communicate that.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Do you now feel like, okay, so that's what we're
on now.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
No, I don't have an attitude about anything in my
relationship dating a dating in an open relationship, and our
rule one rule was if we're in the same state
with each other, we don't cheat on each other.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
That was our one rule. We're in the same state
with each other.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Is no reason why you should be looking at somebody
else or I should be looking at somebody else.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
We're here together.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And what if they knew they was going on a
trip somewhere else without you and they plan to see
somebody there? Is that?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, that's fine. If we're communicating that it's a sense
of communication. Don't take my choice away and make decisions
for me and compare me to a different or other
women you date it.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Just realize that I'm open.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm saying to you, if you're communicating, we're not communicating.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
But your situation doesn't make sense to me. The reason
why is in order for me to see that person
while I'm there, I have to be communicating with them
while we're in the same state. So now, what does
it matter whether we're sleeping together here? If I'm actively
pursuing people and other places while I'm here with you.
What's the difference, Because national cheating is.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Emotional cheating is the same. But the thing is is
you're communicating. Hey, I'm talking to someone else. That's what
I'm saying. It's all about communication. Don't take my choices
away from me, and don't think for me or don't
assume I think like other women. Don't take my choices
from me. Don't like I'm not a child. Talk to

(20:38):
me real, talk to me straight, just like I told
you on my first date. Tell me what your intentions are,
because I'm gonna tell you what minds are. And if
you want to sit here and play this little fucking game,
then you gonna find yourself outside in the cold, because
I don't have time to play games anymore. I'm at
the age where I've been there, done that, and already
seen what you're gonna bring to the table.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
You full of shit? Okay, cool, but the dick is good.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I'm gonna just keep enjoying that. You know who you
are as a woman. You know what you're going to
do to that man or what you want from that man.
So open communication, that's all I ask all I ask
is for men and women.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I don't really want open communication.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I know I want it one hundred percent.

Speaker 11 (21:16):
Want to.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Because I think that men are I don't want to
say afraid, but apprehensive of the reaction to open communication
or even the suggestion of it, because women aren't going
to suggest that, and if they do, it's a lie
because now when I communicate that, the consequences are way

(21:40):
worse than me lying the consequences it's always that's your
childhood trauma.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Honestly, your childhood trauma. It's not.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's just very rare, and I'm gonna like, for for
your end, I'm going to say it's very rare for
men to find women that actually when they say what
they mean, they mean what they say. Meaning if I
say I want open communication, I want open communication. But
then you find might find another woman that says I
want open communication. Then you tell the truth, and then

(22:11):
she's on a thousand. So then now you're triggered as
a man that the next woman that actually says in
it actually really means it. You don't believe it. That's
just emotional trauma.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Like I'm gonna keep it real with you.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Nothing dries up pussy like the truth. Y'all, get a
lie and be happy, y'all. The whole house smells nice.
The lie is amazing. The truth dried or pussy up
ninety nine percent of the time, regardless. Is if it's
a reality, regardless, if there's no omission, there's no violation.

(22:44):
This is just my truth. All of a sudden, it
be comes about you personally. It can't be my reality.
It's now why I'm doing this to you. Hold on,
I got a video about this. You'd like to hear it.
Here it go. I mean the truth.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
And then you tell them the truth, like that truth,
and they get really upset about that truth. And as
a woman, because we're motivated to not upset people, they
actually think that if you know how upset I am
about what's true for you, you will.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Change what's true for you.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I really think that.

Speaker 10 (23:16):
But you guys are smarter than that, because it's been
true for you for a long time, and there were
no problems until you told her.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
I told you, now there's problem.

Speaker 10 (23:24):
Now there's a problem. There was no problem before I
was out loud about it. There's no problem at all.
And really, honest, men, just stop telling the truth because
it's not worth it. My conclusion is humans were born liars.
I've seen horses lives, seen dogs life, and I've seen
oh absolutely yes, a true lies. So yeah, if you
want honesty, you have to always have the reward of

(23:48):
the honesty be greater than the cost of the honesty.
It doesn't mean you have to have no cost. You
don't have to pretend to be fine, but it has
to be you know what you can tell I don't
like that, and I'm a little It means I won't
get it, but I need But you get a thousand points.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
For telling me that.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
It's we're trained in the Pavlovian way, like you asked
for the truth, but give the truth.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Then you get mad.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
So then we're like, okay, well, obviously telling the truth
is not a good idea.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Yes, and then you start backtracking and she goes, well,
now you're lying, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
And then you're in more trouble than you're like, I
gotta go, there's no way to win.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Oh? Well, I love that.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I love when you do that. I love when you
feel that you're just like, you know what, I got nothing,
I have nothing. Too much truth It leans in the
direction that I don't like, and I'm not going to answer. Yes,
I'm not going to respond.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Because there's anything that I respond and say, it's going
to be bullshit. So instead of me bullshitting through it
like oh you get caught, then I get mad.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Get mad.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I agree, and then I disagree when it's personal. What
I mean is I agree with that what the woman said,
it is one hundred percent true for ninety percent of women.
But then there is that ten percent of women that
are the ones that are going to take the truth

(25:12):
and not going to be angry because I get angry
when you lie to me. You know, if I find
out the truth, I'm on a thousand me too, because
I didn't give you any reason to lie to me
when I told you. Just tell me, yo, babe, I
like this girl more than you.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay, damn, that's a harsh reality.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
No, but it's no reason.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
There's ever no reason. There's never a reason to tell
somebody that.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
No, not directly, not directly like that, but not directly
like that, crazy, Not directly like that, but just saying
like I connected with someone, I connected with someone. Don't
compare it to me, because now everybody's gonna die that's hard.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's cruelty. Don't die cruelty.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Don't just saying it's just a sense of saying like.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, this goes into that's how you'll be saying, y'all
think we stupid. I don't really want me to tell
you that I like somebody else more than you. This
is the ship and so you expect me to not
have no experience on this energy.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
That person's energy is better for you than me.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Nah, but you know why. That's how I said, I'm different,
different a lot of me. Break up with me and
tell me that it's you, it's not me, and just
say and then later on just start ditting somebody. Don't
you ever come to the USC and tell me that
you like somebody more than me? Do you know how
I feel about me? And you're gonna tell me that
you like somebody.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
More than me? Nigga?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
No, just say I don't want to be with you anymore.
Just say I think our relationship has has has has
Why not don't tell me I got a questions?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
There is nobody better than me, but I got a
question question? Why would you check this out? I'm not
cannot cannot let me Rob go ahead say can I
so much?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Can I talk on this podcast?

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Have you heard that before? You miss it? You missed it?
Just like you know, it's a normal man things. It's cool.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Basically, what I'm saying to you is is that everybody
is assuming. We're all amazing people, we're all great, But
the person you're dating right now might not be your
damn energy. So walk away from me, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's that's cruel, cruel, Actually ab to tell somebody I
like them more than you.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I'm gonna give y'all. I'm gonna give y'all better here.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
This is my energy connects with someone else more than
it connects with you, because we're on two different energies. See,
y'all don't even know how my divorce went, because the
way my divorce went was straight up real. And that's
because the person knew me and I knew them, and
they knew Like, Hey, it wasn't like we got into
a fight. It wasn't like we got into an argument.

(28:06):
We were sitting there watching TV and it was just like, yo,
I'm really proud of where your life is going.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
And I was like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, I'll make it to that next chapter. Yeah, that's
not for me, but I know that's going to be
great for you. And I don't want you to lose
because of me, and I want you to keep winning.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
And that's literally how my divorce went.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
That's beautiful, But the person didn't say I found somebody
that's better than you, so now I want to move on.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I can be I can see how that can be.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
It's literally like that energy, your energy connect with somebody
else more than You're definitely saying like you have to
be the truth. You have to be cognizant of how
it's gonna land. You have to know your person, and
there is an air of manipulation that comes with being truthful.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
And that's okay. And I have had this conversation with
my husband too, like I live in a bubble of delusion.
Leave me there.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Don't fucking pop that bubble of delusion because everybody in
this house is susceptible to dealing with what happens when
shit is a little bit too real. I know in
my brain the type of shit that I think about
when I'm upset and when I'm angry.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
But I've also learned through therapy. Shout out to my doctor,
how to that back, but speak to me in an
unkind way, speak to me in a way that is
not considerate of my humanity and of my feelings and
of my emotions, and you're likely to see a side
that I don't want to be. So, yes, you do

(29:40):
have to manipulate a little bit when you're telling me
the truth.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
You hear it.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Here, It's good you might have to manipulate a little
bit when you're telling me the truth. Don't give me brash,
harsh truth. Even if there is somebody that you like
better than me.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Please know I would say that to my face.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
There's a clip that I have here. It says Kelly Steele,
a pastor's wife, said that the grace of God would
allow her to I'm leaving it a Little'm gonna let
y'all hear it. I don't even want to say it
to y'all.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
What And I realized that God loves me, that God
has a purpose and planning for my life, that God
chose me, that I'm fearfully and wonderfully made, so he
would call me out my name. It wouldn't bother me
because I allowed God's voice to be louder than his
And when I was going through transition of him not
coming home on the weekends, not being there, telling me
I hate you, I'll never love you.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
I wish I never married you.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
I knew that life and death isn't the power of
the tongue through the word of God. So I would say,
you will love me one day. We will have a
good marriage one day. Although he would go out for weekends,
I would literally help him get ready to got me
his side check by ironing his clothes and getting him
ready for the night. And these are all things I
was grace to do. I would not encourage anybody to
do that unless you are graced by God to do this.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
May God, God, don't love me. We don't serve the
same God.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
You just said, let this person live in their bubble delusion.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
No, no, no, no, that's not no. That is not the same.
That's not the same. That's not no. No, don't pay,
don't play with me, don't that's crazy?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
What that is not moving?

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Right now? How is it moving?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
You just said let them live in their bubble of delusion.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
No, I said let me live in I was talking
about myself. That is that is insane. To hold you
know that's insane. Are you fucking kidding me? So you're
saying and that also goes to the point that I'm saying,
you can't just be that honest with me. That ship
is crazy, that's mean as fuck. And then you're talking
about all the.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Voice of God is louder than the voice of my husband.
Huh huh. I'm not stable.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
She has faith.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
I don't have that. My faith is the side of
a must to see nigga.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I don't know a difference between faith and mental health.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Like everybody got attack.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
She said together. She's sitting next to her husband on
this stage.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
That means nothing. That means nothing to me. I want
I need her. I need her. She know when somebody
say no, you're.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Worth here we go.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
That's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Some people feel like that's what they're worthy to have.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yes, today, how you feel about this situation?

Speaker 5 (32:19):
I don't know what to say. Maybe that's what she
think her worth is. I mean I feel like, what's
what's wrong with it?

Speaker 7 (32:26):
Like if that's if she's choosing to do that, if
she wants to take up the mantle, why, like, what's
wrong with that?

Speaker 5 (32:32):
God ain't tell her her worth yet it is funny.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't want anybody that does not have respect for themselves.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'm just mean, that's crazy, bro, that's the bar is
in hell. I can't not like that's icky. Honestly, ship,
I mean to do some things in my life, but
I ain't got to those levels.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
You're telling me that you're open to the idea of
open relationship, relationship.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
In some sense open relationship. That's not I'm not open
to an open relationship. Now how to open?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
But you understood how that works.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Right, Yes, it didn't work like that.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
If minus the disrespect, because he was being disrespectful to
her the whole.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Time, to disrespect the most important part.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
So let me get to let me, let me get
to it, right. That was abuse. Yes, when it comes
to this, this is abuse. This person has lowered their
self esteem to like the lowest point of the scale
to keep this relationship. They have lowered the self seeing
the fact that he disrespected you. I don't want to
be with you all of these things, and you're like, no,
God will make you want to be with me. You

(33:39):
were bugging the funk out obviously.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yeah, I said there was a line between mental health.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
But ironing his clothes to go be with the other chick.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
That's not even my problem. Okay, good, that's not my problem.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
That's not your problem. That's not would you do that
in an open.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Close to No, but I will help him pick out.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
A fit if he's what's the difference.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
I'm not I'm not doing the labor. I'm not I'm
not eyeing in your clothes.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Sorry, you're an adult.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
To go link somebody else, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, I'll do that. I don't want you to be
outside being ugly like.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Representation of representation of me, like, which is what I
said if I'm if she was to date somebody else,
make sure they know I know, as a matter of fact,
y'all go out on the date. I'm pulling up to
pay the bill.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Different Yeah, Like that's like telling a man like I
know you can't afford my girl.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Honestly, this was about two girls. This is about two women.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Different because you know other women went in my relationship,
so you could do that, he could do that.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I show up, pay the bill, say hi, keep it
pushing you know what I'm saying, Yes, so that it's
super comfortable, like yo, But I don't never want somebody
else to think they got the upper up on me. Yeah, right,
that was my idea as far as far as that.
So I don't understand why a woman wouldn't say, if
you know, I'm wear in an open relationship, you know
we're going out, that's not.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
An open relationship. That is that is Stockholm syndrome. That
shit is different.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
That's not open. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure she's not
allowed to be open. One. Two.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
But before we got to the eyen end of the shirt,
because that's like you're beating her down emotionally to get
to a point that she is okay with doing that,
but you to get there, you had to demean her.
You had to tell her that you don't want to
be with her, you had to call her out her name,
and she had to look to her faith to lift
her up because she was being broken down by her husband.

(35:44):
And now she is in that in the in the
air of that subservient mode that I will now an
act of your cheating because now you're being brutal. You're
not we're not in an open relationship. You're openly cheating
and you don't give a fuck. So now I'm at
the point that I have to deal with your disrespect
and I got to help you get ready for your

(36:05):
other bitch that's yesterday.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Real quick to be that, I know, hold on, hold
on real quick. You want to date with a girl,
she tells you she got a man, but he's cool
with you'all dating? Right? You say, all right? Cool? You
go out with ack, go on the date with her.
On the day, dude shows up, says what's up, pays
for the bill, and leaves. Are you cool with that?

Speaker 8 (36:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Absolutely, nobody will be.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Why throw up with that? First?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Why is you here?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (36:39):
What is happening?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Right?

Speaker 8 (36:40):
Like?

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Why do I have to meet?

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Like? What what do you mean?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
I have to meet you?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Why can't I meet the nigga that you with? This
is my girl?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Why can't meet the nigga that you my girl tonight?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
She's your girl.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
You're on loan, you're you're just all right.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Well, listen, thank you for is wild to play after
that for me?

Speaker 7 (37:01):
Once you show up and pay the bill, I'm gonna
look and say, oh, okay, you have your blessed evening
and I'm going home.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, she's a dub after that, because that niggas you're
you're not a pocket, because.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
That means that anything I decided to do with you
or any type of outing, I gotta show you gotta.
I have to worry about you showing up like fucking
Batman or you lurking like a fucking gargoyle on the
city buildings.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
That's my girl to night. That's a waste we just
give your girl. I hope they cut this. I can't
if you're my girl, I can't introduce myself.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Let you know that. I know it's cool, but.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
No, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (37:44):
No in your head is disturbing me?

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Like this nigga, he just want to be in a shadow,
smoking and sick looking.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Just look, you know what it is. You know what
it is.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
It gives me that even though you're quote unquote, you're
trying to do the Oh, I'm cool, but I still
want to exert some control. I still want to let
you know that I'm in control.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Control.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Actually, I got a question to ask men, and this
is a real question for you and yesterday, how come
men don't like going after another man?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
How come?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Hello? We got yeah? Yeah, can you break that down?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
You heard men don't like going after another man? Exactly
what I said, Like, for instance, if a woman is
with the man, and she has sex with a man
and then have sex with another man and then come
back to you. You're like, nah, I'm good, Like you've
already been ran through. You know how men be like
ran through And they use that a lot like they

(39:04):
ain't running through some ship, but they make you feel
like guilty.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
It's his choice. I wanted you to choose me first. Yeah,
oh so you don't like us doesn't have that. It's
because he doesn't have access to that. So he's basically
where sure he was. His self esteem is on the bottom.
He's just trying to get some box. No matter what.
Niggas move off of ego and basically everything.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
We but y'all can go and be with a woman.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
But when the woman goes and be with a man,
it's like all hell break loose, because it's like, wait,
you went and fucked another dude and then came back home.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
All hell break loose. Once you do that, it's just over.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
And this is what I said, I will die on
this hill right, wrong or indifferent?

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Men have standards, Yeah, they do, and I wish we
had the same standards sometimes because there are certain non
negotiables they don't give a fuck, And I feel like
when they need to be more like that, we need
to have more non negotiables. If me cheating is the
end of this relationship for you, then it needs to

(40:17):
be the same for me. That is something that I
know I can't handle, but we keep trying to. Oh
he's okay, and I'm gonna he apologized.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
And I know I have two.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Girls, and if it's anything that I want to impress
on them is to have your non negotiables when dating.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
I don't give a fuck what it is. I don't care.
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
If it's as simple as you wore the same genes
three days in the row, that's my non negotiable. So like,
find what your standards are and I want you to
stand on that and cement your feet to the floor
until you decide to change that.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
And that's what it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
That that's true, got to you said in a way.
But I think that there's a no. I think that.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Animals, they don't give a they don't care.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think that men and women exist in relationships for
different reasons. I think that men, like I said, based
a lot of things on ego. I'm not sure if
women do the same or exist in relationships for that
have that same motivation. Is it more based on ego
than it is for being chosen? I don't know. I

(41:30):
don't I can't call it, but I think I definitely
know from a male perspective, it's more about our ego.
Validation is a good word.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
I think it's more like reputation. Like it's not ego.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
It is how the outside world perceives me and my
worth as a woman.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
So it's like, it's not ego to me that you
can't validation.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
It might be validation, but I feel like there's another
word that I'm thinking abound image. It's its image that's
about the image, which is also the reason why going
back to yesterday's conversation, no point intended. My man, my man,
my man, because I told you years ago, like women,
the way that we were brought up is you need
to have a family, You need to have a man.

(42:18):
Where is your husband? Where are these things? So like
you can't get the husband until you have the man.
So now it's like, oh, I'm on the track of
doing the things that I was bred to do. So
now I have to my man, my man, and I
have to hold on to this person because now I
have succeeded in my mission in life. What's happening now

(42:39):
in the two thousands is women are changing that dynamic
of what it is that is acceptable or what it
is for them that is like their purpose.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I've told this story on the show many times.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I remember before I had a child, I had two
degrees and my father told me, I would rather you
have two kids right now than have two degrees.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
And I said, oh, you got me fucked up, damn.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Because he's thinking in the way like he was. I
remember having a conversation with my dad where he told
me that I don't have enough patience and relationships because
I keep getting rid of people too fast and don't
I don't allow myself to go through things. And I
was like, I understand what my non negotiables are, and
I'm not going through shit unnecessarily. I'm gonna keep getting

(43:25):
rid of them until I find the one.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
That I'm supposed to be with.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
And I meant that, and I stood on business with that,
and I'm sure like my dad is really happy now.
He's smiling from ear to ear because I finally the
thing that he probably always wanted me to do. But
at the end of the day, like this career was
important to me, These degrees were important to me, and
I needed to make sure that all of the things
that I valued came in the way that I needed

(43:50):
them to come. And that's me going outside of the
way that I was raised, because the way that I
was raised was very Southern and Caribbean and that too.
Oh shit, that's a strong combination. Shit, and it's a lot.
I think it was fuck you, Andrew, Like literally I

(44:12):
was sitting here reading this, but literally, I think what's
going on is that you have the old school way,
and then you have the new generation breaking out of
the old school way of dating. And then you have
that other generation. We don't want to talk about them
because they're in a different world.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
We still on the Earth. They in Pluto.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
But I think that's what's happening when you're dating, Like
you said, the way your parents wanted you to date
and the way your parents and I say, I say
the same thing. When it comes to the work life.
You know, my parents was like, you gotta get this
type of job, you gotta live this type of way.
You gotta worry about your full one K, your pension,
your retirement plan. And it's like, who told you that
I was gonna live until I get to my retirement plan? Well,

(44:54):
who told you I want to work a job just
so I can say I have four one K and
a pension. How about I want to and my purpose
and I want to do what I love and make
money doing what I love. And that's not it. And
it's not to shit on anybody that's doing it. That's
for you, but it might not be for me. And
a lot of things with relationships and work and how

(45:15):
we as a generation we raised by the old school,
but then we're trying to break a mold and you know,
basically say hey, this is the new way, this is
the way I feel comfortable. And you're gonna see that
cycle over and over again. Your daughters is going to
date differently, they're going to live their life differently, and
it's going to be against everything you raise them by.

(45:36):
But that's their way of finding their way and their
own journey. And once you, as a parent respect that
your kids have their own journey and not the journey
you tell them they're going to have, then you're raising
an adult.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
You're raising I'm thinking about what y'all saying right, and
it sounds great, amazing, right. My original point is men
exist in relationships for different things than women. Right. If
y'alln't know men existing relationships because of ego, why not

(46:11):
just feed their ego?

Speaker 5 (46:12):
That's a mental illness?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Why not if you know those are the things that
they're here for. Why do you think it's a mental
ill You think it's a mental illness for.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Ego to be the ruling factor of your life.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yes, I think that's the illness why we go to war,
That's why you fight people at the light.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
It's literally a mental illness, is an emotional imbalance. You
are incapable of psychology class.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, the ego is saying as yes, actually.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
But don't women have the same problem validation?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
You don't think needing validation from the world valid for
them from these people? You don't think that's a mental illness?

Speaker 5 (46:57):
You know it is. I don't think that's why, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Because I think that you're doing everything for the validation
from outside forces and you're not living for yourself.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
That's mental illness, it is.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I don't think that women's validation is as strong as
the male.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
You see, you see, and.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
That's why I said it's not I think that so
I can honestly say, real quickly say, men exist here
in this space because of ego.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Women do it because of validation. Those are equal outside
forces and just being present, being in the moment in
this relationship equal things that should not be there. But
the men's is mental illness and the women's is just Hey,
that's just that's just part.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
Of the game.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
I'm gonna be honest. I'm not gonna say. I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna be honest. They're both mental illness. And the
problem is is that this is the society we live in.
It's a billion people on this earth. You'd be damned
if nobody has mental illness. I say that everybody has
some form of mental illness because look.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
What you were raised by.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
If you were raised in trauma, you got mental illness.
If you was raised trying to be something that you're not,
you were raised in mental illness.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
You have mental illness.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
You're fighting yourself, Yeah, you're fighting.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
You're fighting for yourself.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
And in a lot of people saying needing validation is
a human trait, yeah, ya, y'all enjoyed that life me, I.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Dis agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Holy shit, Yeah, it's not mental illness. First of all,
I have a question. This is where I'm gonna mess
you up. Why do you care what other people think?
Why do other people have to validate who you are
as an individual? You was born with the tools to
be successful. You was born with the purpose. You was
born to live your life for you. Why do you
need everybody else to tell you how to be you?

(48:48):
Why does it matter that what other people think about
you to be you? Like? Honestly, I can say, I
can say to you, look, this is what we were
built on, this is how we was raised.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
The question is is how do you break that?

Speaker 4 (49:04):
How do you break feeling like I need to be
validated by somebody to say I am someone? Now, I'm
someone and I and I'm gonna be real with you.
I've been through the people pleaser phase. I've been through it,
and this is somebody that is telling you I've been
through it, and I broke that mold and I broke
out of it because I'm not gonna sit here and
keep pleasing everybody, because trying to please everybody forms a

(49:26):
mental illness within you that you're unaware of. Because you
don't even know who the hell you are. You don't
even know you're worth, you don't even know what makes
you happy, because you're too busy making other people happy,
You too busy living for other people for that validation.
I don't think that people that need validation are people pleasers.
I think that people that don't care about what other

(49:48):
people think about them are sociopaths, because you should care
to a certain I'm dead sertous, I don't give a fuck,
been through so much. But that's response, right. I don't
think that it's about sense. It's not people pleasing right.
Like for me, when I go to work every day
and I do a great job, I like hearing and getting.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Validated for the work that I do.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
I like somebody else noticing, like, Yo, you've been busting
your ass, you've.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Been doing great. I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
If I'm in a relationship, I love for my partner
to see what it is that I'm doing and it's not.
You're not making me be the person out of it.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
I think that there's a celebrating rum that also is,
but I think that also falls into validation, Like you're
validating you see me, you see what I'm doing. You
see the effort that I'm putting into what we have
going on. If I don't care what anybody thinks about me,
that's a problem. And I think that also the bigger
problem is that sometimes and this is a conversation that

(50:51):
I had years ago on the show with a bunch
of black women. In the conversation that the topic was
who can check a black woman?

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Who can check us?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Because just because we exist does not mean that everything
that we say, everything that we do, is right. So
I need to be surrounded by people that could be like, na, dies,
you're bugging. You're absolutely wrong, because that's the only way
that I'm going to grow. If I only think and
validate myself and I only care about what I think
and what I feel, that I'm not growing. So I
need people like Tiehold, and I need people like yesterday

(51:22):
and be like, Nah, you're bugging. Nah, you're moving a goal,
all right. But I think that that's the whole definition
of validation, And my definition of validation is different. It
might be because I think that you're explaining to me
is celebration, but it's not always celebrating.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
That validation is more than just being celebrated.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
It's also saying I believe in you that to you,
I feel you like vibration.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
I don't think that's all celebration. I think that is.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
I'm just saying for me, what you're describing for me
is celebration. When I'm saying about validation is validation is
I'm doing something for you to be happy with me.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
That's how I look at.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Validation, to be happy with with me, with me like
I'm doing stuff for you to make you feel happy
about what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
You feel like I have value. Yes, that's what validation is. Yes,
It's like, yes, you see me and you I've raised
value in your eyes by me doing that.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Yes. Is the other thing is celebration.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
So when we're talking about validation, the definition that bodes
for this conversation is the recognition or affirmation that a
person or their feelings or opinions are valid or worthwhile.
So that is I think I think that we're mincing it.
The act of affirment a person their ideas, their feelings,
or their actions as acceptable or worthy. Recognition and validation

(52:49):
of of minority cultures and the classroom teachers d d yes,
Sue and worthy as an act of affirm a person
or their ideas, feelings, actions, etc.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
As acceptable and worthy.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
I think that I understand why you see it at
celebration and I get that, but I do think that
there are certain things that people can do that can
validate you.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
And I think that a lot.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
As Black women, sometimes we have a lot of imposter syndrome,
Like sometimes we make ourselves feel like we don't belong
in certain spaces and it feels good for somebody to
see you and be like, yo, now you do belong here. Yeah,
this is the place for you. This is what it is.
And I am a person that feeds off of that.
It's not that I don't know who I am. I'm

(53:32):
by far nott a people. I don't give a fuck
enough to be a people pleaser. I've been past that.
But I also think that the people that I care about,
I care about how they feel about me and how
they see me, and vice versa. I want them to
care about how I see them. Do you see me
as a good person, an honest person, a moral person,
a just person, a.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Good wife, a good mother, a good like you. I
want you to see these character traits in me, and
what if they don't see it.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
If you don't, then we we're not on the same page.
If you don't, then you cannot be in fellowship with
me because you have an idea of my character that
I don't have of myself, and you might need to leave.
And I ended a relationship, a friendship kind.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Of like that.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
And I think, and like I said, I hear everything
you're saying, and I agree, I see where you're coming from.
Minds is just the difference between celebration and validation, and
that definition for me in what you describe to me
is just me celebrating you as a person. Like if
I see you, I'm celebrating you. I'm celebrating you, and

(54:37):
that's it. Positive energy gives positive energy, period you should
be normally living your life with a positive intent. But
I don't need you to hold to say defeated your funny.
I don't be like if he my comedy not might
be what you like. She may think that I'm funny,
you may think I'm not funny. You may think I'm

(54:58):
a gimmick. You understand I'm saying, and like you may
you know, all three people are gonna think differently. So
what I'm saying is is that you, as an individual,
have to release the idea of I need to make
sure this person thinks I'm funny, plus this person think
I'm funny, and this person think I'm funny. That's what

(55:20):
I'm saying, in a sense of validation, that you have
to release that and just be confident and comfortable with
your funny and then or whatever your thing is, and
then say, Okay, h I messed up, or I can
do something better.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
That's education.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
That is people in your circle that is willing to
educate you and see you grow and celebrate your growth.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
That's not validation, y'all. I totally get that.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
But I also think that it matters if I give
a fuck about your opinion, and if I care about
your opinion of me, then yes, I care about how
you think of me, because three people can have three
different opinions about me. But if I don't know you,
you're not my buddy, you not my homie, you know,
not my friend, you're not a fellowship with me. I
don't really give a fuck what you think about me.
But I deeply care about how the people that I love, y'all.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Are taking it somewhere else. So y'all a took this
relationship to the outside world. Right, So what I'm talking
about is in a relationship. In a relationship, y'all said
that validation matters for women a lot in a relationship,
regardless of what anybody else thinks. What is the woman
here for? Like, so I think the guy would be

(56:32):
showing up feeding his ego, whether my dick is big,
whether I got enough money, whether she only values me.
You know what I'm saying, Whatever am I the best?
Like it's a million it's a million things, whether you know,
whether you look at me like I could defend you.
Whatever it may be, his ego is stroke because what
are the things that a woman exists in this relationship for?

(56:56):
And you guys said that a validation, but I'm not
sure ever understand on Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
I think also too, it depends on the woman because
every woman is in a relationship for different reasons. There's
some woman that's in a relationship for financial stability, There's
some people that's in a relationship for love. There are
some people that is just in a relationship just to
say I have someone.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I don't know how to be alone.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yes, yes, And that's why I don't think that validation
and ego. I don't think that that's equally which is
why I don't think that validation technically is a mental illness.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
The way that I feel that ego is.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
That goes back to the original conversation is what we're
talking about.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
But you know, all men.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Are controlled by their ego. All women are not controlled
by the same. Tell me show me a man that's
not controlled by the ego where.

Speaker 7 (57:47):
You're getting this science from, is not controlled by I
don't know, but but more or.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Less, did he say the T word though?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
OKAYO, she's trying to.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Shake I was not.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I thought you said, are U m P. I'm not
trying to be shady. I didn't say a word. I
just said, don't put me off.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
That's mad words her face.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
All right, before we get into the meat pause, I
don't know that is, let's get into I'm not talking
all right. There's one last thing.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
If you don't feel comfortable with the idea of using men,
you're not going to last very long in this economy.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
You're not going to last very.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Long in this misogynistic world we're living in. You're not
going to last very long in this patriarchy. As long
as it's men you're choosing to primarily partner with. Get
used to the idea of using men.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Stop calling it evil. It's not evil to use men.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Okay, I don't even bother call him men protectors and
providers anymore their resources.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
God damn.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
A man is only a provider he's providing. If he's
not providing, he's not a provider. He's a resource waiting
to be used. Make sure that every man in your
life is playing a clear role, whether he knows it
or not.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Why is he there?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Because if he's there just for you to have the
attention and the fun feeling of this guy talking to.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
You, he's using you.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Because if all you're getting is attention, he's getting.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
What's he getting out of that?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Then?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Because men benefit more from the validation we give them
than us benefiting from the.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Validation they give us, they use the validation.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
We give them to build up the confidence to approach women.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
They've got no business talking to.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Wow, So think about what you're doing when along these
men to be in your space without.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Space.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Please send me that clip that needs to go in
my group chat immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
The way the women here were like, she is a feminist, she's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
A feminist is a strong she agree with, I'm not
a feminist, but she ate that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
She did think she ate that why because they talked
down on men.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
No, I don't think it's a talk down on man.
If you somebody told me this thing, if you're not
being used, then you're using of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Course, yes, of course, yes, yes, okay, And then that
work back and forth?

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Should I say of course not? You know this, it works.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Both ways because that's what relationships are, she stated it
you being a resource. It sounds crazy, but at the
end of the day, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Definitely a resource more right now today in my relationship,
I'm more of a resource than I am a provider.
I can say that right now today my lady takes
care of me way more. She's helping. She's like, yo,
take care of the things that you need to take care
of so that we could be on top.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
But when she needs me or when things come up,
I'm like, all right, well what can I do? Like,
how can I help in this? But overall shit, she
might be the provider.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yeah, And that's what brings us to the gender roles.
How gender rolls have been flipped.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
They have I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that, and she.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Knows that on certain areas, gender roles have been flipped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I wouldn't. I would not say that. But yesterday, when
I say that in my situation, I think that's the
communication part. I don't think that the roles have switched.
I think that we're actively openly communicating about what we need,
what our goals are, needs to happen, you know what

(01:02:01):
I'm saying. So she's like, no, we need to do this.
You need to get that credit because you know, I
had a situation that need to take care of so
we can't make no moves. So she was actively like, Okay,
what bills do you need to take off your plate
so that you can take care of those credit things
that because we can't make no moves if you don't
take care of those things, the gender roles ain't switch.

(01:02:21):
She's just like, yo, I'll step up here to get
us to where we need to be. You understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
It's called the equal relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
But I think also we have to when we're talking
about gender roles, like for me, it's not about protect
and provide.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I think are the two.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Whacks gender roles, especially in five because when you protect
and provide, like nigga, we're not in war right now,
Like my man does not have to protect me every day,
Like you're not even actively flexing this gender role every day,
so please like that's not but no, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
You're not actively per me every day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
When he walk walks in out, that's not protecting.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
But that's that's if I'm walking down the street with you, right,
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
You hear a noise outside, Okay, okay, we're not.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Always together, right, Like I have a career, you have
a career. There there was a time before the wedding
that I did not see this nigga for two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
He was walking in and I was walking out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
So that's what I'm saying, Like these are these are
the wackest things, Like it's bigger than just protect and provide,
But it is. I think that when I think about
gender roles, I'm thinking about leadership. I'm thinking about if
something was to happen, do I trust you to lead
this family? Are you trustworthy? Are you resilient? Can you
build something?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
What what the fuck can you do that I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Can't y'all love talking about we're hiring contracts.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
Right and right relationship. I was doing the building because
he didn't do it. I don't mind doing that stuff. Yeah,
I don't. I don't mind it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
She's not gonna let you do it in you're talking
about the way when she was in here, like, yo,
you should took this light here. She's a producer. She's
going to do it herself. No, give me the hammer.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Yeah, Like I'm gonna be like, okay, oh bab let
me show you how to do it, or I want
to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
That's just me. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
There's different lamen, and there's different personalities, and that's what
I'm saying. A man has to find that energy that
matches his energy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
And that's why I said with me, I know I
can't be with the average man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
If you a big alpha, you want to open up
the door and all that other stuff, I'm not the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Girl for you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
I know I'm not the girl for you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I don't mind if you open up the door for me,
but I don't mind opening up the door and say,
hey babe, I'm open the door for you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Or help you out. I'm gonna open the door for
a mancause, okay, if it's my man's birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
If it's my man's birthday and I'm celebrating my man,
I'm gonna give him the same love he gives.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Me I'm given to him.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Open the door.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Did you drink? Yeah, she's buying drinks.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Buy my man a drink. Drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
What's the difference?

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
First of all, if I even touched a car door,
Andrew will like, fu push me into oblivion.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Bitch, don't play with me. But it's not that I'm
okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Like like shovel, slow pump gas carry two different womens. Bag,
I got that, you carry these two? I got these, sud.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
His body pull.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
You know what's crazy to me?

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
We got them. We're two different.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Two different women are allowed to exist, and it's okay.
The nigga that comes off like she has to be
able to buy me to drink, she needs to shovel,
she needs.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Do is sassy. He's not allowed to exist if.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
You are not literally physically impaired. Don't you ask me
to do labor? You better be hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
No, but understand what I just said, y'all are allowed
to exist. The man that had that is open to
that or whatever nesty. He is now oxercized. He has
looked at a certain way as less than And so
you wonder why our ego rule ship, because we gotta
be this thing that in order to be accepted, be

(01:06:34):
the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
She said, be the thing, be the thing. And for me,
I don't want you to be the thing. I just
want you to be you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
And if you don't, I just want you to be you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
They're not even good people. Why would you want to
be them? Because then you would know what's for you
and what's not for you. There are so many different
type of women, and there's so many different type of men.
There's different type of women, and there's different type of men,
not all of us falling the same theory. And that's
why you gotta find your energy. Like if my man
is upset of me opening up the door, I'd be

(01:07:05):
like that. Bothers you, you'd be like, yeah, I give
yourself a hug. You be all right, you know, But
I was still respect nice. I'm being honest.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
That's me. We spoke about that. I'm not nice, Okay.
I will not open up the door for you, as.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Please please do what you feel is good for your relationship.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Don't let don't don't let none.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Of outside validation. All right, now, we have been here
for damn there two hours. It's not for Jesus. You
was here, by the way. Shout out to yesterday for
switching through two episodes. My risk be killing me. Just
doing it for the for the people that we have

(01:07:45):
coming here. Nigga. I don't know how you're doing this,
but thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
We got to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
He working it because he'd be working.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Okay, we'll be working his wrist style.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
That's hello, y'all, we're here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Let's just get it over with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Hit me up. First of all. Shout out to the
l g B t q I A plus flag. It
is Pride month. Shout out to Hope Chisel for all
of the things that she's doing out there. She was
also out at the wedding. We had a great time.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Sorry, I just read something that was wold. No one works.
There is morning time crazy fact.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
That's right fact, Arnold palm.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
That's my that is crazy work. Who does that's my
man that said it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
That's my man husband though, that's my whole husband.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Wing for that h word.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Hello, hold on, she can say that's my whole husband.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
That's my whole husband.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
I have three rings to prove it. Show the hand,
show the hand likes your door standers, that's my whole husband.
I got three rings. Bitch my whole husband. That's what
she started saying, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Sorryess Hilarious has been very vocal about her I don't
want to say.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Disdain disdain for trans women. She's fucking transphobic about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Her disagreeance the idea that trans women are indeed women.
I would believe that that she would probably agree with
that if it was her. I'm trying to be non
biased right now in my introduction. Okay, Dodge, give me
a second. I believe that Jess would agree that she is.

(01:09:40):
You know, she does not agree that trans women are women,
and she has been vocal any chance she gets. As
she was in a recent interview, I don't know who
the young lady is. I wish I would have done
that research. My bad job and not having that. But
they had a guest on who was speaking when Jess
said this, gotta live, die.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Fight the power.

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
But you do have to have some things ingrained in
the way that you move about your day period to
understand that the work never stops, so you never find
that balance. And for you, I want somebody who knows
that women can have babies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Only women can have babies.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
I just want to let you know that interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
There are other people who can have babies.

Speaker 11 (01:10:25):
Okay, yeah, I mean they have a uterus, they can
have babies, but they just might right identify as women.
Two different things, Like you can be biologically female, but
you can't be biologically woman. This woman is a gender
construct construct.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
If you got a uterus here, you can have a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Yes, that's the point. If you have an unius, you
can have a baby.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Okay, cool, we have a heye on that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
So I'm not saying that, nigga. Just first of all,
I know that what Shorty was saying bust her head
wide open. She was like, what you're talking about? I
know she was looking at her like what you're talking about.
Second of all, or what I don't understand is why
she felt the need to say that. In that conversation,

(01:11:09):
the woman is talking about dating, she's talking about some
complete other ship, right and just comes out of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
I don't know if it was out of nowhere per se.
I didn't listen to the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
But just using my context clues and understanding how clips
and stuff work, I'm going to naturally assume that at
some point in the conversation they did speak about uteruses
and women.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
They had to. So she just flew off the hands.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
She came out of nowhere and said.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
No point in the conversation they talk That's why the clipper,
that's why the clip is a clip, because of that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yes, she came out of nowhere and said that for
no reason did.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Did the host ever say anything about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I'm gonna go back and listen again something that makes
She said, no, that's why is the thing. She was like,
they weren't even talking about that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:59):
That's what the clip says. It's like the clip is like, Yo,
they weren't even discussing That's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
What the discourse has been on social media that they
weren't even talking about trans people at all, And so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
She just found an take a jab.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
That's what I need a person to date me to say,
because they need to know that only a woman can
have a baby. If I'm wrong, y'all, if I'm wrong,
this is what I gathered because it's only this little
clip that's been going around so I didn't see the
whole twenty minutes. I will go to it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
I want to assume that it's better than that. But
I will say, as a woman that has been in
contact with, in fellowship with a lot of other women
that have not been able to have babies, that is
literally so fucked up to say, like, you have to understand,
you can't say only a woman can have a baby,

(01:12:51):
because that's not true. A fucking deer can have a baby,
a fucking dog can have any anything that is biologically
female can have a baby.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Period.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Yes, you have to have a uterus to have a baby.
There are trans men with uteruses. There are they vemras
and ziz zerrus.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
And all the rest of the other shit. They got
some zer and zizz be who you want to be,
my nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
I don't give a fuck, But at the end of
the day, to just reduce womanhood to being able to
produce a life is kind of fucked up for all
of the women that can't, for all of the women
that don't want to. I think that that is don't
reduce me to my body parts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
She actually she actually went on to post, after all
of the backlash, my uterus.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
Is my superpower.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
That shit is so hurtful because I literally am working
with somebody that is going through fertility issues and wants
a kid so fucking bad, and we hear about it
all the time, and I feel for her and like
even like the way that she interacts with Parker, like
I feel film for her sometimes like damn, like I
hope you really get that thing that you want so much.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
This is a biological woman.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
She's been married for years, she has not been able
to produce a child for whatever reason. And I think
that just going on social media and say my uterus
is my super GI's fucked up to so many people that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I know you probably wanted interject, but I actually came
across and looking for stuff. A post that Gabrielle Union
did in May eleventh basically said Gabrielle Union says having
a baby via surrogate felt like public humiliation. I felt
like a cuckold watching somebody do something I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
Yes, I was not able to do us.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
And so when thinking about it, is like, yo, if
you're reducing womanhood to being able to have a baby,
you're literally exing out so many traumatized women by doing that.
Just that in itself, and I also don't understand why.
But Davida, what you got on this, you don't want
to speak on it, you can however your views are.

(01:15:02):
Whatever your views are, we're open to it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Okay. So I okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
So yeah, don't be afraid to go against the grain.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Yeah, I'm it's not a sense of going against the grain.
It's just that someone we're talking about is someone that
I am, is a colleague of mine.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Okay. Yeah, So I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
I think Jess, and I'm hoping in my dear heart
that what she is trying to say did not come
off correctly.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
I'm hoping in my spirit that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
What she was trying to do was just to speak
up about natural born woman And there's a conversation that
no one really wants to have because it's an uncomfortable conversation.
But natural born women we have to literally sustain to

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every single thing and say it's okay. And I think
what's happening with Jess hilarious.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
And like I said, I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Think I'm assuming and I'm hoping that it feels as
if you always have to fight to be a woman,
to be any to a natural born woman, it's just like, okay,
here you have a trance and I hope I'm saying
it properly trans woman trans which way you're going to

(01:16:37):
go about? You know, here you got a trans woman
and it's like here, I am woman. I'm here hear me,
roar right. What nobody is having this conversation about is
you have a man that emotionally and mentally feel like
a woman, and they are presenting themselves as what they
think a woman should look like. What's happening is is

(01:16:59):
that women now are feeling insecure about how they look.
And that's why you have all of these BBL issues.
This is why you have all of the women doing
all these different surgeries because now they're trying to look
like what a trance woman looks like because they gotta.
And that's what this what's really happening right now, And

(01:17:20):
no one want to have that conversation. And it's like
just it's like, the only thing I have left the
show that I am a naturally born woman is my uterus.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Rather my uterus work or it don't work.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
That's the only thing I have because everything else I
feel like is being stripped from us. And that's what
I'm assuming that she was getting at. Was it took
it in the wrong contents? Was it placed in the
wrong contents?

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Do I think I didn't see the whole clip. I
just saw that one mini clip. I just personally feel
that we always have to bend over backwards for everybody,
rather if you're Jewish or a man, whatever. We gotta
take the blunt of it, and we become if we
speak up, and like she did, she spoke up, and

(01:18:10):
now you call her transphobic, And that's kind of fucked
up that you, as a natural born woman.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Can't say, Hey, I'm a female.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
In my uterus. Is my superpower? Rather it works or not,
you understand what I'm saying. It's just the sense of
this is the only thing I have left. That's horrible,
though no society made it horrible, and that's what nobody
wants to talk about. I'm from the lgbt Q I
A plus community. I raised two gay boys. I have
adopted a trans woman and I love her to death.

(01:18:43):
And she will tell you time and time and again, yes,
I'm a trans woman, but I'm not a natural born woman.
I would never put down a natural born woman, and
that's what she would say. But what you're not realizing
and nobody's talking about, is that there are trans women
that are putting down women, and you watch.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
It all the time and we just ignore it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
And I think what's happening is is that just Hilarious
is expressing her vocal or her opinion or her voice
on it, and it's coming off across like she's transphobic,
But she might just be just trying to say I'm
a woman to hear me raw.

Speaker 12 (01:19:23):
This is just me with an open I'm gonna let
you in dodge on this, right, I'm open mind on
because when you say that you've seen trans women putting
down women, that in the all right, So.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
What I've seen. What I've seen is them affirming themselves
as women. I haven't seen them putting down attacks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
No, this is what I will say. They like women,
not own periods, women.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Them down.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
That is that we've had that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
We've had that, Yeah, and that's what I want to do.
What I want to say is a lot of people
have not had the conversation, the tough conversation with trans
women about some of the nuances and the difference of opinions.
As a woman that has actually had these conversations in
the midst of formulating a sisterhood with a trans woman

(01:20:21):
who I literally that is my sister. Can't nobody tell
me nothing different, like I love her her mom, like
Tyl said she was.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
Just at my wedding.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
We had to have the tough conversation first for us
to be able to be where we are right now.
And what I will say is I think that trans women,
just like everybody else, they're not monolithic.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
Just like you can.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Have a white person that's a racist and a white
person that's not a racist.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
I can't put that on you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I'm gonna say that there are some trans women that
do speak disparagingly about women, but it's not the vast
I will say it's a small percentage because they're already
a small percentage. And I will also say that we
as a society have a tendency to prop up the

(01:21:14):
negativity and lower the voice of the positivity. But from
what I've seen from the trans women that I have
been around, I have never felt that my womanhood was
ever invalidated in the space with trans women. I have
never heard a trans woman in my space say I'm
a woman and you're not like it's more like you're

(01:21:34):
a woman, I'm a trans woman. I'm a trans woman.
We are both women. Fine, we can both exist in
the same space because my womanhood is not under attacked
by any like. Can't nobody attack something that belongs to me?
But what belongs to me has nothing to do with
my body parts. Because as a woman, that at a

(01:21:55):
point that I had to grapple with a health issue
that I could have possibly had a hysterectomy, that doesn't
mean that because I don't have a uterus anymore, that
I'm no longer I'm gonna be a woman forever.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
So I want you, I think that we are.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
We have to understand that words mean things, and we
have to understand that we cannot conflate our feelings with
the pure definition of words. One man and man are genders.
Those are gender constructs right there, he she or that's
what that is.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
There is biologically male, there is biologically female.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
A cat, a dog of moose, a whale can be
a male or female. We're not that I am a woman,
right if as long as you say I am a
trans woman, i am a trans man.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Okay, So that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Makes me assist hetero woman or assist, lesbian, whatever the fuck.
All these words mean things, but none of these words
are attacking who I am and what I am because
on top of being a woman, I'm a black woman
and that is a different experience than any other woman.
And I'm never taking that away from myself or from anyone.

(01:23:09):
And I'm black before I'm a woman. And if you're
a black trans, if you're a black gay, if you're
a black he, she, they them, are it whatever, then I.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Think that you deserve respect. I think that you deserve dignity.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I think that you deserve a space in this world
because blackness comes before all of that, and that's really
where I live in that. But when you, as a
black woman, are disparaging other black women, may they be
trans or cist, they are still a black woman. Also,
I think that it's really it's hurtful to people that

(01:23:42):
are already disenfranchised, the people that are already going through
things that we can't even imagine. Why are we separating
ourselves and why is the only hill that you have
to stand on a body part that you're not even
guaranteed to have for the rest of your life. You
don't even know what can happen to you, you tomorrow,
and that she was saying that is gone, And then

(01:24:03):
what are you do?

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
You not exist? Are a woman without a uterus?

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
What Jess is under consistent fire from.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
The transit because she consistently speaks out against people that
she is not willing to have an open, constructive dialogue.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
With, that she's not willing to be educated by.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
And it goes back into like, I want somebody to
be able to teach me something new about a part
of life that I don't know, and I want to
be able to accept people as they are. You're a
human being. First, I don't give a fuck what you
want me to call you. None of that invalidates who

(01:24:43):
I am as a person. That goes back to the
other conversation that we were having. What validates me are
the people around me that I love and care about,
and that love and care about me. You and your
existence in the world does not invalidate me. And somebody's
insecurity about how they look because of the way that
they feel like the world perceives what a woman should

(01:25:05):
look like. That is in itself also a mental illness,
because if you talk to the real men of the world,
a lot of them will say, I don't need the bbls.
I don't need the extra dists, I don't need the weaves,
and I don't need the lashes, and I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Need all of this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
I love you as you are, as the woman you are,
as long as you are a since hetero woman, and
if I'm a heterosexual man, or you have the men
that like to date whomever like. I just think that
it's not fair to keep punching down on a society
that only wants to survive, hence black women.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
So why are we now the oppressors?

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Why are we on what we are the bottom of
the totem pole.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
And then we have a whole society that is now
under us, and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
We're punching is not under us. And that's how are they?
They're not dying for existing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
They're not They're not of us one thing. The black ones.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
I'm going to be very real and let's go with
y'all don't know. And if we're in this industry together,
this Hollywood entertainment l g B t q I A
plus community runs it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
So they are high ones. Oh no, honey, they're high.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Who stands next to Anne Wintour at the Matt Galla, Yeah,
who stands next to her dom and comingo now so
like and sounds like.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
A bunch of black gay men to me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Yeah, but talking back to what we were saying, said
but under black women.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
No, that's what I'm trying to tell to you. Where's Lauren?
She has her own show, don't she? Who's Lauren? Who's Lauren?

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
I'm gonna show you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I think her named Lauren, Laurel or whatever her name
excuse me not whatever, but you know, you know your name, queen.
I'm gonna show you her research. Come on, and I'm like,
I'm going to give you that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
But can we really But.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
What I'm trying to say, you can't really.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Pick a bunch of stars or a bunch of people
that have made it and say they represent the entire thing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
Because they know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Yeah, they ain't got nothing to do with Hollywood facts.
But what I'm saying, they don't have those protections.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
They don't tell us something that we don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
I don't know, Okay, So this is basically what I'm
going to say. And I don't agree with the way
she probably Laverne Cox, Oh, Laverne Cox. Yes, sorry, she
just had a great show that they canceled.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
I wonder why it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Trans and gays are only there for the look to
make them seem accepted.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
Travis says, if we as a society are moving toward
gender being fluid, then I can understand people feeling uncomfortable
when they've been conditioned to believe they are is changing
the things that they believe are changing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
But that's You can say the same thing about the
civil rights You can say the same thing about Jim
Crow laws, where white people didn't want to accept black
people and they didn't want us to have a seat
at the table.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
But we were humans the whole fucking time. Not for you.
I'm talking to ask a question.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
I'm like, and this whole thing came from trans women
saying we are women. Cool, got it? Why can't they
be trans women?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
They are?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
So I think.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
That that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Not everybody is saying they're trans women, and that's what
people are missing, and no one wants to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
There is two types of trans women out there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
There is the trans woman that is saying I'm a
trans woman and I'm proud and that's like ts Madison
and so forth on. Then there are trans women out
here that are attacking women, and no one's having that conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
What I'm saying, like I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Said, saying they're women, and then you change it to
attacking women. And so that's the I think that's the
perception from CIS women that there is under attack. Why
you saying you're a woman, You're saying you're like me,
and for some reason right.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
There, that's the and that is having a problem with.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
But they're always going they're always going to be outliers, right,
They're always going to like there are people in this
this world. Right they say I'm African American, right me,
I don't subscribe to that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
I'm an American.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Why how many generations do my family have to live
in this country for me to just be an American?
Why do I have to add a caveat to it?
I am not the caveat. I am not an African American.
I am an American. If anything, I'm an American American
because my family, my mother's side of the family lived
in this country for generation and my father's side is
from Guyana, which is in South America.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
I am a fucking American.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
You can't tell me that I have to become a
subsector of what I am. A lot of people don't
like that I'm African American, I'm Black American.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Cool. We can all have that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Everybody has their own feelings about what these words mean.
I get that because we don't all think alike. So
why are we taking the negative people? The people that
are being negative towards CIS hetero women, Why are we
even giving them attention when they don't they fuck them?
Because you can say that, but you have to realize

(01:30:36):
you as a person can say that, but there's other women.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
And why I have to be called the CIS women?
I am a woman? Why do I have to.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Be because like, but this is the thing we put
just like you don't like to be considered African American.
I don't want to be a some women out there
that is tired of labeled CIS.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
What do you mean I'm a woman? Yeah, I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
I don't understand like you're asking people to step out
of who they are to make someone else comfortable, which
is once again saying, hey, I don't want to be.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Called a SIS woman.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
I am a woman, and this is who I am
and i'm and I'm I'm being real. They you decided
to label yourself other labels, but now you go into
the head of a sexual comedian and saying, because I
label myself this, now you're labeled something different.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
Accept it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
If you don't accept it, you're transphobic. That's what's happening.
I have a question, and I'm just being a devil's advocate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
This is my question for Taho and yesterday he is nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
My question for y'all two.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Would you be personally offended if a trans man called
themselves a man?

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
No? But but I do see men have issues with
aggressive women like dyke stud that type of thing. So
although I might not and that a lot of times
they're very passable by the way that their hormone whole situation,

(01:32:15):
so you might not even know exactly right. But with
the ones that they can quote unquote clock the ones
that they can they be like, oh this nigga. They
get into it with dyke studs, whatever it may be often,
and I think there is something about them challenging their
masculine thinking about that during this conversation. On the other hand, yesterday,

(01:32:36):
you understand what I'm saying, Yeah, I think there is
a thing, but I also think there's an issue. I
also think it goes both ways most times, that studs, dykes,
whatever you want to call it, I don't like Sorry, sorry,
I don't like men either.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
What I'm saying, and I think that you can plain
what I'm saying because of fans. Man in a stud
are two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Yes they are.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
There are two different things, so different titles.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
Because they're so different because they're a different title? Right,
which is which is each? Women are beyond passable some
of them. But I wonder if the dynamic between trans
women and SIS women or natural born women is different

(01:33:28):
because I hate to say this, but women, some of
us are naturally caddy and we're gonna argue with it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
I think it is. I've seen men argue about this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
I'm using that I've never seen. Write it down.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Just keep it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
I personally have never seen since hetero men argue about
manhood with trans men.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
I have seen it so much like I'm heavy an
lgbt Q I A plus community, and I have seen it.
So the things that you know, we don't know what
Jess hilarious has experienced them more.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
We don't know what me and yeah, we don't, we
don't know. You know so long that she should be
a fucking ally, But that's another story. But why should
she be an ally?

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
She should be an ally because she understands what it
feels like to be subjugated, to be treated differently, because
she as a I feel feel like that as a
black woman. I feel like that as a black woman.
I don't need as a black woman. We are constantly
under attack. Y'all attacking a black woman now for commenting

(01:34:43):
over a person that was born a man and turned
into a woman, and then y'all mad at her for
her thoughts of her.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Fighting from what she believes a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
She's getting dragged, She's getting dunky of the day, she's
getting canceled, that's not why, and saying she's getting not
because of how she feels, but because of the way
that she equates womanhood, that's all. And that's the only
thing I've dragged to force so far, like no you personally,
you personally I'm saying, yeah, Instagram like whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
But people have accepted that she feels that way. Also,
what I've seen again is the fact that she interjected
that for no reason, no reason. So it's like it's
on your heart to do this when people have accepted
that you don't fuck with us, right, that's what the
trans people are saying. We accept that you're fuck with this.
So now you're attacking us for no reason. What is
what is being said? That's what is being said.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I just have a question. I asked, y'all are attack
every day as black people.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
What do you do? Do you cancel that person? Do
you get mad at that person?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Do you feel like that person is punching down the
person that's running this country is punching you down twenty
four to seven, but you still living.

Speaker 5 (01:35:52):
To see another day. My whole thing is is that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
Make it okay.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
It doesn't make it okay.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
You about it to say it doesn't make it okay.
But at the same time, this is individual feelings. These
are individual personalities. So you have I'm just being a
devil advocate about the situation because I believe love is love. Listen,
I'm heavy in the community. I believe love is love.
I have my own personal thoughts and feelings, But at

(01:36:19):
the same time, I hear black women like you know,
how they say you got to open up your mind
to what somebody else's thoughts is. And I see it's like, okay, y'all,
you changed yourself now.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
I respect you for who you are.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
I love you for who you are, but don't project
on me and make me feel less than by saying
I'm now a cist woman, or don't project on me
and make me feel less than for having a thought that. Hey,
I feel like you should be just saying trans woman
and not calling yourself a woman because I am a
woman and women are being feeling attacked because you get

(01:36:56):
attacked by male chauvinism, you get attacked by racism. You know,
Black women get attacked by so many things. Black women
also get attacked by black women. I was about toy,
That's what I was about to say, black women. So
it's just like, let this girl live like she's okay
to have whatever her thoughts and opinions is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
And I feel that let them girls live.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
And all I'm saying is is for trans women to
respect women and women to expect trans women. But trans women.
The problem with some women, with some women is that
they don't like that you're telling them that they're assists.
Women or they don't like that you're saying I am
a woman, because then you're saying them with what the
hell am I?

Speaker 5 (01:37:36):
Then you are you?

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
And you male showanism times too, and you don't want
to talk about that. But that's that's male chauvinism times too,
because like you said, you don't see trans man trying
to make say I'm a man and going against men.
You don't see trans men doing it, but you see
trans women doing that, and not all trans women, but
some trans women, and you're that's doo, that is fucked up.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
That's what that is. That's mal chauvinism times too.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
The only difference is is you put on a dress
and then gonna tell me I'm less than you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
Come on now, I'm not going to have that conversation
again or equal to again. I hate that. That's the problem.
And this is what a woman looks like.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I gotta have lashes and big breasts and big boobs
in a sunken stomach.

Speaker 5 (01:38:20):
You gotta be slimmed. Y'all eat too much? You fat.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
I watched gay men talk about women and how they
dress and how they come on. We're talking about from
even from the nineties when in Living Color had hated
it when they used to do that. So you're already
getting hit by gay men telling you how to be
a woman and how to dress and how to look
and how much weight. Then you got trans women doing
the same thing to you and then claiming that some
of them are claiming I am woman and not trans.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
That's the question I have, because that's give me personally.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
I don't care in the sense of identifying myself.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
But I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
And illness and yeah, right, you're saying that as a
mental yeah, but now you're defending it the validation from
this point. I know, I know, yes, I know, you
can just leave it on if you're ready to go,
But uh no.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
I'm not defending it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
I'm saying the ideology so I can tell you why
they's so mad. I'm saying the ideology for others. This
is not my person trying my person. I'm just saying,
these are other people ideologies and thoughts for me. You
call me whatever you want, but I'm still de bated
d even Okay, I'm so mean some of the girls.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Why are you doing that with your head though? Why
are you doing some of the girls tongue right?

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Now some of the girls they just so be cute
and they just they get upset because the trans girls
they they sometimes they put it together.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
More than the others.

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
And the girls are just like, well maybe if you
did a little bit more like trying to give. And
the real girls are like, bitch, fuck you because I'm
a real girl. I'm a real boy on some Pinocchio ship.
But like I'm just telling you what it is. I'm
not hating. I'm there are some.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
Girls better than the girls. And that's the problem with
the girls.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
You talking about two girls, No, I did.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
You have to hear it changes in the voice. There
are some of the women, women, some of the.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
Girls that looks better than the girls.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
The girls tell these people to find you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
I'm love is love the day me.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
I respect you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:35):
I mean to tell people.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
You can find me on Instagram, all social media platforms.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
I'm under my name it's w dot dot D.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
You can follow me on I g AT, I A
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Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
You can follow me find out all that I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
Like I said, I'm an audience warm up on my
host I'm a and I'm a producer. The girl is
out here five degrees doing everything, and please book me. Yes,
five degrees, honey, the girl that's educated. Come on now,
I do panels and I actually uplift.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
Women and you know men.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
I'll give y'all some thoughts, but at the end of
the day, you could book the girl. Even if you
go to IG and you hear email me.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
You're booking me. Period. Let's go. I'm from Brooklyn, best
started doing Stop. Do you still live there?

Speaker 10 (01:41:31):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Oh yeah, I heard it. No I don't, but listen,
I'm from Bedti.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
I'm from Brooklyn, and no matter what, it's in your blood,
no matter where you go, you always from Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Everything else, she's just a transplanting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
I'm just saying, super hard, hard, let's get back to
our respective houses. Respective. I've held you captive for hours. Yes,
the Man Men's episode that I promised y'all last week
that will be up next week. We're going to record
it tomorrow. But being that we had so much stuff

(01:42:06):
that was like today, it's happening today, I said, Yo,
let's do this this week and we will release me
Drew Trump next week. To god, you got another two
weeks off.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Thank god, Hall looking at right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Talking about I don't do nothing. You ain't got no
pt up the whole month.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Oh wow, Thank you for coming, and I want to
thank you for having me because this was definitely a blas.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
This is so much fun, y'all. We definitely got it again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Please want down.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
I'm in town. I'm running back the girls in town, ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
And gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. The
zoom We're going to turn on the sound real quick
while I get the funk out of here. Transplant was
that a plant.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
You drew your This guy is insane.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Follow I am defeated that d Yeah and peace by.

Speaker 5 (01:42:59):
So shameless niggas with me two times in the episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Nigga I was.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Cooking two times in the episodes cooking.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
I just want you to try. Never agrees the means.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless. If you
know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you know what
I'm saying, so shame.

Speaker 6 (01:43:26):
This