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September 24, 2025 • 77 mins
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This week we welcome content creator Wolf Taylor as we talk Traumas traveling adventures in Hong Kong, the Charlie Kirk conversation, is Drake bigger than Hip Hop, Jay Z's failed attempt to put a casino in Times Square and was the gentrification of Brooklyn really a bad thing?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying,
so shame.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's been alone time since we've been in the building.
Last time I was in here, I was in here
screaming by myself. Son. When I do the solo episodes,
I literally just be like, I'll be hyped, but it's
literally nobody in it.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
But how do you you feel weird like you be
in your bag by yourself? I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I did feel weird at first, but now it's like
it's part of the craft. Now, you know, you know
when you're hitting on what you need, you know it.
It's like that's all I'm looking for sometimes being here
spinning like what the.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I don't know how y'all do it? Man, I don't
know what it is. I need to feed off an
energy or something.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Energy is real.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
That's why I never wanted to be like a radio DJ,
like now I need people out there. I can look
at your face and ship you know.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, But I'm a piscey and I'm the only child
talking to myself my whole life. I'm literally just doing
it out loud, but speaking about when you know you
got nigga. I think last time, last episode, I was screaming,
I gotta scratch my butt crack. I gotta scratch my
butt crack. What are you gonna do? It was about
things that you have to do, even though you know

(01:51):
people gonna talk about you. But it's like, yo, something
I gotta do. What am I supposed to do? Just
walking around my ass? I have to scratch you know
what I'm saying. But I was screaming it into the mic.
I'm in here by myself. Yeah, And it went on
a tangent. Yes, this nigga was right here, no lily,
by myself. And then afterwards I was like, I cannot

(02:12):
believe I screamed that four times as loud as I could,
pushed the mic away, I kind of scratched when you
want it down, But yeah, man, Dodge, So we didn't
record last week, you know what I mean? We missed y'all,
I miss talking about the ship that was talking about.
That's why y'all see me making videos on Instagram because
I just missed talking about ship. Right. But Dodge has

(02:35):
been on not vacation. She's about to ask where she
is actually in grad school. It's a lot harder for her,
you know, she imagine, still got to pick up a kid,
a guy grad school. Now. She's also been made VP
of her school and she lives in Jersey. Shout out
to you, you know what I'm saying. So it's just
a lot harder to do. Trump has been traveling the world.

(02:56):
You know what I'm saying. I'm hitting him. He's like,
I'm in Timbuktu, you.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Know, I was in Bali and Hong Kong, damn.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Like like regular places.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Just chilling the opposite side of the world. Man, that's
on vacation.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
But what do you do in Hong Kong? What do
people do in Hong Kong? And this is seriously, that's
the fact that so Hong Kong is a huge city.
It's like New York.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's like and it's literally like the has the most
skyscrapers in the world. Right, So it's like it looks
like New York is right on the water and everything,
so there's a lot going on, mostly just shopping.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
When it went to a couple of clubs, which was wild,
what's the club?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like? Yeah, what what's that? What the fuck? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I got offered cocaine like three different times in the bathroom.
I'm like, oh, y'all party hard out here? Like wait,
so they just seeing you and you want to do
some coked? Random in English?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
They said in English, and they just pushed like some
white power towards you.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
It was like, yeah, this one dude was like he
was like trying to open the bag. He's like, hey,
can you help me with this? I was like, I'm good.
I don't want no part of that. And I know
what comes next? You trying to set me up.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know, you like towering over all the people.
They just can't help Look at this, Look at this
nigger nigga?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Right, what did you? So the clubs is it American music? Like?
What is it?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
And so I went to two clubs. One I walk
in and they playing Kendrick. I'm like, okay, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
What you said? Ranks down? They played Drake too, but
they played more Kendrick than Drake.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I'm sure so, and they're singing along word for word.
I'm like, oh, share by speaking English? You know what
I mean to the song right right? You might know
English like lyrics, but you don't know by conversation. But
it was kind of bunked up. And then there was
like two dudes in there, and he immediately was like
looking at me, like what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Look like a movie get out.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Doing it?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
It was dope. And one of them was from Paris,
from Amsterdam. Yeah, oh yeah, we talked hard. One of
them went from Paris.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
It was his birthday.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
He's originally from Queens. So we're talking ship. He's like,
it's my birthday. Went to the next club with him.
He lived in Hong Kong. He like a promoter now,
so now we're getting in all the clubs and ship,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Ship was kind of fly.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's you had a good time.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
It was dope.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like the funny thing is I don't even go to
clubs here. Yeah, but like if I'm out of town,
I like to just see what the cultures is like.
For sure.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's done.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Bro. Did you have a problem navigating Hong Kong, like
it's things in English out there, and I'm literally speaking
from place in ignorance. I have no idea what it's like.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I was definitely worried about that because it ain't like
Spanish where you could kind of understand what they might
be saying. You can read it and the words look
similar like nah. But even at the airport when you land,
everything is in It's not even Manda. It's like Cantonese.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Cantonese and English, so everything. They have English all over
the place and most people speak English.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
You got them glasses, though, I wonder that the glasses
is going to get so advanced. Oh yeah, glasses. You
see this ship in a different language and it just
changes it.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
The new AirPods now they translate the person speaking into
right into your and the glasses do it too.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Crazy. I think the glasses do it too Have you
ever used the glasses? No, I'm about to get the pill.
They freak me out. That's so good, that's so good.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Like there's no there's nothing in your ear, but it
communicates right to your ear and nobody else in the
room can hear. So it's like the glasses is talking
to you because it's like a like Siri and the glasses.
You could be listening to music, or you could be
on FaceTime and nobody. You could I could be on
facet time with somebody. He don't even know what we're
talking about. But it's over my ear though not in
you know, So it's it's incredible technology. And obviously this

(07:04):
is just the beginning. It's just the beginning.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
What's the next Yes, what's the next level of the glasses?
In your mind? You know he's a uthologist. What is
that he said?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Youthologists?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
This is not even related youthologist. It's like some scientologists, uphologists,
ufo ologists. You were, you fought so you know he's
into that space craft. Ship is crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
We're talking about metagra.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I'm like, yo, how did you get?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, metaglasses ain't ship to them niggas ship.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I don't know, but I guess the next phase of
like the glasses, I guess it's actually taking the phone
right and putting it in the glasses, so basically making
the phone be obsolete.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
And all that ship. But hold on, but since you
were youuthologist, what you think about the drones that was
flying over New York City and all that.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Ship, all the dishes over Jersey and all of that,
I feel you's my personal opinion.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, I've seen them.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I feel like that was a No, I've seen them. No,
I'm not saying that it wasn't true. I'm just saying
I feel like that whole thing was a SIP. Is
basically a psychological operation basically, and basically the government has
did that over the years basically when.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's what.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I don't even know what is, but it's basically psycho
a psychological operation basically. So when they used to have
sightings back in the day, and they would basically want
to call the situation. So let's say people seeing something, right,
they would basically recreate the ship and put some fake
ship there and make people think that they've seen it
again and didn't come and be like, nah, that was us.
He was bugging out, so basically making them think that

(08:55):
they were crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, my bad. Yeah, but bro yo, you you
need a nigga like that. You said a couple of times.
I definitely want to get I wanted them to get
that out. I wanted to get that whole spaceship ship out. Fine,
what do you mean you saw them? So this is
the thing.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
There was some things shooting up from the ocean somewhere
near Jersey. They were shooting up from the from the ocean, right,
and all of that is on film. What's real? What's
not real these days? I don't know. But they were
also talking about it's so many different sources insietise, people
who are actually pilots, people who actually in the government,
niggas do on't Joe Rogan talk about that ship, which, if

(09:36):
you want, Joe Rogan talk about that, but I'm gonna
accept that shit is more truth than not. And they
were talking about people were talking about seeing things floating
over like Manhattan, like specific. It was like seen this
video one time. They were talking about something floating over Harlem.
And one day I was on the rooftop and I
was looking at something glowing but it was staying in place.
It wasn't it was too low to be a star.

(09:58):
But it wasn't an airplane. You know airplanes like two lights.
Usually it's fucking moving at least this thing wasn't fucking moving, bro.
And it was three things. It was like one, there
was another one, it was another one and it was
exactly like a previous video that I saw said what
they were. I saw, and I was just looking at
it like, I don't know what that is, Bro, I
don't know what a helicopter? No, it wasn't. I'm just something.

(10:19):
I'm sitting here looking at it like what the fuck
is that?

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
And I believe that ship. Bro, I don't listen aliens
and ship is above my pay grade. I got better
ship to do, like trying to find out how to
stay in Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know what I mean? You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
But at the end of the day, the aliens exist. Absolutely,
they have to.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
They have to. This is there's absolutely no way aliens.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Zero way is complete.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I don't eed. But are they here floating around Manhattan?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Are they a saya for the CIA?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Which is trying to bro? This is documented, Bro?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Why once you hear it, Once you hear a pilot like,
who's like one of the best pilots in the world
speak to you in detail about something?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
To hear yes? And what are they doing?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
They're just chilling the intelligence.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
They're doing something, They're collecting intelligence something. I feel like
they just ship that they keep saying they find it
in the water. I feel like all in different species
that they.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Find me a new Pokemon every day.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Bro, that ship came from somewhere. The earth is mostly water,
so it just and it just goes to what it's
mostly of and examines them. That's what it's examining. We think, oh,
they would want to talk to us, No, Nigga's probably.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Just Bro, they're shooting from the water. And even like
the pilot is the last thing I'm gonna say on this.
The pilot literally was talking about how he's seen the thing.
It didn't have a heat register to it. So you
know these sensors that they got in these these jets
and ship like this top of the class. Right, this
thing is floating, it's flying, but it doesn't have a
seat register to it. There's no gas and admitted from

(12:00):
it from the back. They tried no proportion. They tried
to send a signal to it to communicate with it.
It was blocking it. It was like actively blocking it.
And then this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It sounds crazy, but it's true. Joe Rogan shout up,
white niggas be telling the truth in this case. And Bro,
the nigga said the thing, there's some weird turn that
it couldn't it couldn't possibly do if it had like
rockets on it. And then it just dropped down into
the to the ocean within like the snapple finger just
dropped it and it went through the fucking water. It

(12:29):
was in the sky with them and then dropped all
the way down to the ocean where they couldn't even
detect it no more. And it's a nigga, bro, I'm like,
this nigga's not lying. Bro, this nigga not lying. Conviction
gotta when you're telling the truth, bro, conviction sound like
it's real, you know what I mean. Even if the
nigga is lying, you gotta be okay with You gotta
feel like if he tell me something and he lying,

(12:50):
but it feels right, I gotta be okay with knowing
that I got do.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's okay.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You get duped in life sometime. But it sounds like
he's telling the truth, you know what I mean. So anyway,
we ain't gotta get to do that. Ain't what became?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
That was some good. You just tried it. You just
literally said something with conviction that sounded good, Broke. I
believe what the nigga with conviction told me I will
trust my own just space. It's just zero possibility to
me personally that there's nothing else.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
So that how you know, how you how you house bullshit?
If you know, it's more than just I just I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't know. It's about what I get. I get
it some form.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I'm just trying to pay my rent.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
When we speak about white people telling the truth, uh,
sometimes they do that. We have experienced something that I
haven't seen since I want to say Kennedy, Well, the
shooting with Reagan or something like that. I was young
when that happened. Get hit though, did Yeah? I don't
think he got hit. It was assassination something like that, right,

(13:59):
And then of course before that you had Kennedy, before
that was MLK. All right, buck Week also, yeah, I
think like seventy nine buck Week. Yeah, when Buckhet got
shot on Saturday night?

Speaker 6 (14:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I respect because I don't know, you know, man very
serious about the same time as ras.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Who is that?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Niggas like? And where Eddie Murphy was on Saturday? Remember
buck Week? Remember Eddie Murphy was Buckwhet? You talking about
a character?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes, a right, Yeah, we talked about who actually died,
who got shot he talked about her.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You can't be serious this guy, Charlie Kirk. Now, I
would see Charlie Kirk on these panels, and obviously we're
late in the game with the Charlie Kirk conversation. I
want to take it somewhere else. Well, you know, follow
the path of conversation, right. I would see Charlie Kirk
on panels mostly talking to people from college or woke people,

(15:04):
l g b t Q members, woke black people right
just about debates, debates, and he would be spending all
of these ideas some call him facts, some ideologies, whatever,
but it always seemed like he was like talking down
to them to the right. So that just I don't

(15:25):
really take to take to the guy. I didn't really care.
I didn't know how big he was or whatever. I
heard that he had a lot to do with other
things since he's passed, but I didn't really care about
him too much one way or another. There's a million
of them out there that do that feel this way
the way he feels, doesn't. Nigga we in the Trump
era like it is what it is, right, And he

(15:46):
got his ship smoked on on on national television. How
y'all feel about that. I mean, so don't be pussy.
Don't be pussy. It's so shameless.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I mean, I hate that I've seen that. Ain't gonna
lie to you hate. I hate that I seen that.
I was I was chicking with my girl. We was
at a little winebar. Niggas was playing live jazz. It
was beautiful, and I just opened up my phone, just
check my shit, opened up Instagram, and the first thing
on the feed, bro The first thing on the feed
was it's like you see it, And I already knew
something was gonna happen to this nigga. I ain't see
the caption, ain't see who posted it. And then just

(16:20):
that happened and they showed him getting hit. Yeah, that's
the first thing. Before I even heard about anything from
any other place. I just checked my phone. First thing
on Instagram, boom Broke got shot in his neck, and
so I hate that I seen that. That's how I
feel about it, first and foremost. You know, I know,
it's a lot of different opinions about bro being a racist.
I was just telling him Bro outside, I didn't seen

(16:41):
videos that I didn't seen videos that give credence to
people saying that he races, and then I didn't seen
videos that give credence to this nigga not being racist.
I just seen one last night when I found some
on Instagram that I like. Instead of saving it, I
just send it to myself so I can go back
and look at it later. And so it's like it's
fresh in my my dms. And that nigga was defending

(17:05):
equality to a race to a actual racist in the video,
you know what I'm saying. But then I've seen other
videos where he's sunning the ship out of people, you
know what I mean, because what he do is and
it makes sense. It's like we in the content ara.
So he's making an example of somebody who's trying to
defend their position because they're passionate, but they're not well
read enough or articulate enough on the situation. Because the
nigga Charliekurk could be wrong, but you don't. You don't

(17:27):
argue as well as Niga. Nigga do it for a living,
you know what I mean. So a lot of times
you see him putting belt the ass on somebody who
might be right, but they can't articulate how they write,
and so yeah, it's it's a it's an unfortunate situation.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
What you what you think about it? I didn't see
him actually get hit. You've never seen the video?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, I seen it.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
I was in it happened, yeah right, and I'm sorry,
go ahead, man.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
So part of it I was off the grid, and
part of it was like I'm like this foolish American ship,
Like I don't got time for this, you know what
I mean. Like they had a whole different vibration out there,
which it was kind of ironic for me that all
of this ship was going on, and I'm like, yo,
I know it's gonna sound corny, but like being a

(18:20):
bother gave me a little bit of faith in humanity,
humanity because I'm like, yo, not everywhere as stupid as
we are, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
So when I see all this stupidity going on following
the murder, I was like, America is ass backwards. So
that's that's neither handle that. So I didn't watch it.
I didn't go look for the video. I never seen it.
But that's crazy, you know. My first thoughts was like,
you know, his wife and kids was there in the
front row.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
They was there.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, just the fa just the fact that you got
a wife. Forget.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean, everybody got somebody that love them, but you
know what I mean, to have small children and to
die it was like thirty four years old. This is
so regardless of what he stands for us, like that
is crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
There's a lot of people don't give fuck. A lot
of people are like, good for him that he had
his ship smoked.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
That's what people saying.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Huh, that's what our people saying. Yeah, especially our people.
It's like, yo, he was saying all this stuff about
some people got to die to protect the Second Amendment,
you know, with protecting the right. Then the fact that
there was a white dude that was caught that they're
saying that did it right? That is Republican or this

(19:35):
is what whatever facts because if you asked yesterday and
the conspiracy theories, you never know what's real. That's real.
You don't know, you really know, right, The only news
that you get is what they tell us. We don't
know if that's true. That's just what they tell us, right,
And if you believe the conspiracy theories, they plant ship
for us to know, they plant ship that can't go

(19:56):
on media right, So who the fuck knows? And you
post a video, that ship will get taken down, some
other ship, that shit will get taken down. I know
that for a fact. But they are the videos about
empathy and him saying like, I don't believe in empathy,
you know, I don't believe in us feeling sorry for

(20:17):
for for for certain things or whatever. And so a
lot of people are holding him to the fire for
how he passed based off of what how he lived
his life.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
What he said, I could quote him and like, you
don't have empathy for others, and him talking about like
gun violence, and he was like, well some niggas gott
gotta get shot in order for us to have you
know what I mean, That's how he died. And he's
and he's like, I'm okay with that? So okay, how okay.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Are you with it? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Right itself?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Sometimes you know, I just you know, I was I'm
always here to go against the room. So I feel
ways on both sides, But with something like this, I
do feel he was assassinated for his beliefs in front

(21:09):
of his wife and kid. I don't know if if
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
No, I'm not going with that.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't like and I know that he's a racist,
and I know that me being a I don't want
to say militant, but shit, I'm super pro black. But bro,
that doesn't stop nothing, That doesn't change anything. As a
matter of fact, he's turned into a martyr.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Right, that's the crazy part.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And you don't know what you know. I've read enough
comic books or watched enough X Men to say, hey,
if this didn't happen, then then the Sentinels wouldn't have
come later, you know what I'm saying, and wiped out
the whole thing because of this. They knew that, because
this happened, they built this whole system to wipe out

(21:58):
and that shit went crazy and out everybody, right, And
of course it's just you know, art imitating life. But
I don't. I do believe, like yo, if they if
they would do that to him, who's to say Charlemagne
isn't somewhere and they just smoke his ship, that's why,

(22:18):
for no reason.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
But it was already up for niggas though we already
know that's something that's on the play for us. Oh
for sure, any day, you know what I mean? The
surprising part is you didn't think it would be for
a nigga like him. That's the part that fucked everybody.
If it's like, oh, y'all killed this nigga because we
used to die, I'm very desensitive. But that's why we
don't have empathy to his situation. It's because we used
to die, you know what I mean, Like, nigga, we

(22:40):
don't please, don't don't pull up, don't pull up a
list of all the ship that we didn't have to
watch within the last five years. Don't take it further
than that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Every day, every day based off shit that happens in
our hood.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
They don't even give reported all the time, man, you know,
so that's why we desensitizing. You know, to be black
is to be a very multi dimensional person. We're very
deep people because we have to be. We've got a
compartmentalize shit. We got to push it in certain places
just so we can make it the work and do
what we gotta do the next day. So I don't
expect the white person to understand how black people could
look at that and be like, yeah, I don't expect

(23:11):
you to shit. I don't expect you.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
To the you know, the black force that get assassinated,
it's from law enforcement, it's government sanctioned the agencies. Like,
it's totally different. This is apparently one individual that acted alone.
So it's not even a comparison. It's like the level
of outrage that you would have when it's a government
sanctioned hit is totally different. This is just one twenty

(23:35):
two year old kid that acted alone, apparently, you know
what I mean. And so that's why I'm like, I question,
is he a manor like how was he? How was
that considered being a martyr? If he didn't like it?
Would They're saying it's our fault, So that's that's my point.
They blame the left, so which is completely irresponsible, right

(23:57):
for Trump and everybody else to blame. You don't even
have anybody in custody, you don't know what happened, but
you're automatically blaming what they're talking about, we're gonna avenge
his death against who?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Against who?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, And they were immediately ready to go to a
simple war against black people in America like HBCUs had
to cancel classes and shit, like why y'all going to
war against us?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And we ain't do nothing. We ain't to do.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Nothing, simple, simple answer, TROMP because and that problem, it's
two things that America is never going to go against,
and that's white supremacy and it's the NRI I feel
what I'm saying. So we're never gonna check that right,
So we have to make it immigration, LGBT, black crime cities.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
So we're never gonna say, hey, let's take a look
at the domestic terror. You know what I'm saying, Let's
take a look at some of the shit that's actually
going on and the people who's doing it and why
they're doing it. Right, goes back to guns and white supremacy.
So we're kind of gonna gloss over that. And you
know what's the next thing? Immigration? Cool, you know what
I'm saying, Immigration, democratic cities.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know what I'm saying. What you want?

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Like, none of the ship that they talk about had
anything to do with him getting shot. It's like it
was a white kid from Utah that was a Republican,
that was a gun owner, Like, nothing to do with
the other side.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But what is it about guns that they would just
completely ignore that? This is exactly what we've been talking
about like literally having common sense gun laws like this
just that makes sense to protect humanity or protect the country,
protect children, keep him out of hands, and people with
mental issues or people that are just adamantly violent, right,

(25:39):
Like what why do they protect that right? Instead of saying, like, yo, yo,
this kid just killed your man. Y'all don't want to
look at this right now, he literally just killed your man.
What what would make y'all not say, yo, you know what? Yeah,
maybe we should sit down and even if you don't
get rid of them, because I don't know if I
want I don't want to know if I want to

(26:00):
live in a society where I can't protect my family.
And the Milicias is out there. They're ready, they're prepared,
they're coming. When they're ready, it's gonna go crazy. And
they're coming off the army. All of this little shit
shit we do, they ain't gonna doing. They coming off
the arm long range scope two hundred yards away, top
your head, right off off your shoulders.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So I mean, listen, the nigga died for what he
believed in. We could just leave it as simple as that.
When they keeping a stack like we just look at
it like that, like he said that I think gun
rights is worth a couple of people losing their life
in order for everybody to have access to them. And
that's how he died. He literally manifested his own death.
He literally was the example. He died by what he

(26:43):
believed in, quite literally. So maybe that's why he's looking
at him as a matter. Maybe not for the reasons
why I would call somebody a martyr, you know what
I mean, But at the end of the day, it's like,
my nigga, you really, you really about that shit and
we all found out, you get what I'm saying. So
may peace be upon that man's family, because to see
somebody get killed like that bro was in a in

(27:03):
a loose neck white T shirt, you know what I mean,
Like not the day he was thinking that he was
gonna transition into the next thing.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Was not the fucking the ward that right.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I'm just saying. He was just mad, regular looking.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm just saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, Before
we before we continue, I do want to say we
have a special guest on the show with us today.
I have not introduced this individual. He really used to
I met him through Tian that was an assistant on

(27:35):
the show. She was a producer assistant on the show
and we needed a camera man. She brought Wolfing, who
is our guest today. Shout out to Wolf. He works
at the Media studios and on We get to the
Round up the floor. Not only does that, but also
has his own platform that he's built a podcast.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
What's the name of your podcast? For your podcast called
halfway because you never finished.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Rising halfway up? But also besides that, follow Wolf. I
think his name is Wolf.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Taylor Underscore Wolf Taylor Taylor.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
He just speaks. Before I knew that you had a pod,
I would just hear you speaking. I would just watch
your ship from time time. I think we don't follow
each other. But I was like, yo, because when you
was here, you didn't talk much, you know what I'm saying,
very cerebral. I was like, he's quiet. You've been here
six years now, five years, six years. And I started

(28:33):
watching him so since he was on the show. You know,
I don't want to say had the transformation, but I've
been learning how to talk, how to communicate, you know, whatever, whatever.
And I watched him and I'm like, Yo, this nigga
is growing. Who the fuck is Wolf? When? When did
when did he become this guy was? And I'm like, Yo,

(28:54):
but I never we never really talked on that level
back then. So Yo, go to his page, y'all to
understand what I'm talking about. You have probably just scroll
back a bunch now, because now he does a lot
of pod clips. Before you used to talk a lot more.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean, it's the same ship, you know what I mean,
It's just now it's underneath a podcast, right, Yeah, so
just scroll down, start right there. I got just just start.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Right and very very cerebral guy. I really and I'm
not just saying that to no.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, I believe I am no, no, no, no, I believe conviction.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I would listen to things he say, Yo, join
the Drake battle. He was doing a bunch of ship Drake.
You a Drake fan as well? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I love both of them, niggas like equally.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
So yeah, are you mad that that whole thing happened?
Or you happy that happen? Nigga?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
That was a blessing for us fans. That was a blessing.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think it was. It was bad on the game, though.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't think so. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, up, yeah, it weaponized fan bases too much. It did, man,
because now like the nigga drops something, now all these
people mad or it's like, oh he dropped this, or
now you got niggas like yesterday mad can you can't
say Kendrick's name, like so why can't?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I just like the artists, bro So being Mayweather took
his first A and we all watched it.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
So it is what it is. I mean, I feel
like battles have always been divisive. I'm like to this
day now it's in jay Z fans just like people
gotta draw a line, which one are you take over?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
And ether niggas still finding out this day.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
This day I hate with people like I'm like, I do,
I do, but I don't feel like it really split.
Hip hop is bigger now, hip hop is is hurting now, Yes,
say what do you think about this? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:47):
We spoke about this for it. I told I told
him that the battle was the worst thing that happened
to hip hop. What I did at the time, I
feel like it was a great It was a great battle,
great effort from both gentlemen. We make a lot, but
in all seriousness, I did gain a lot of respect
for Kendrick, Right, you know, you can't not gain respect.
But I think, like I was telling Tahoe as far

(31:08):
as it hurting the game overall. Right, so let's look
back two years ago hip hop, right, well, and now
let's look at today. Hip hop has been on the
dcline pretty much ever since the Battle. Since the Battle,
we like, we've gotten a few quality hip hop projects,
but overall as a genre, we're not dominating. How do

(31:29):
you This is hilarious, This is a this is a fact.
Go look, go look at year to year, Go look
at the year to year metrics, right.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
But why does that? Why? How do we how do
we know specifically that's because of that though.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Because well we don't. Well, we can say this, for
the eight to nine years before that, we were dominating
bout a large margin. That happened. We are no longer
dominating at all.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
What do you attributed to?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm trying to get you to say.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I'm attributed it to basically because like we said, well
Tile said I also said too, as far as the
fan base is being weaponized, hip hop got as successful
as it did because it was the crossing of the
fan bases right, So I like this artist, they do
a song I didn't hear about him, you know what
I'm saying. So it goes podcast, it all grows together. Right,

(32:18):
So when we have the twenty tens into the twenty twenties,
it's a lot of newer artists being pushed up into
the fold by the bigger artists there and by those
little artists growing into being staples in the game that
we know today.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
So when you have that kind of highway to success
cut off right during the battle, right because now once
the battle happens, if you on this side, you gotta
just fuck with the niggas over there, And if you
on this side, you gotta just fuck with the niggas
over there. With the Drake and Kendrick thing, it kind
of makes it hard because Drake is somebody who fed

(32:54):
so much into the game as far as newer artists, right,
it still is, yeah, but it's not coming like, it's
not coming with the veracity that it used to. Right,
He's only collaborating now with people who are independent or
who are under Sony really like well that you see
what I'm saying. So it starts to like, you know
what I'm saying it's it's becoming less about the whole

(33:16):
culture and now it's becoming more. But you business political,
you know what I'm saying, camp Base.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
They're trying to figure out why you make, why you're
payingpointing that to the kindred.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Now, I can't say I like something without some Kendrick
Nigga jumping in my mentions talking about old niggaga, yo, Like,
what what does it do to you for me to
like this song? Bro? What you know? You know, why
is everybody so mad?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Now?

Speaker 5 (33:48):
I got to feel you know why it's bad Wolf
because you had somebody like j Cole who said, Hey,
I don't want to be a part of this, and
the game killed him for that.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
The game killed him for not just not wanting to
be a part of it. So just look at the Yeah,
you can't go around talking about you this and that,
like a talking about that ship. But he's joking ship,
that and that, and he's doing it nice. And then
when the ship comes down, he's never forget him on

(34:16):
things like yeah, apologizing like I don't want no smoke.
That's a crazy that's a crazy, bro, And to be
quiet like this afterwards and then name it you was
gonna name your ship to fall off and you fell.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
And I also think that, like I think another way
you could look at it, bro is that this inspired
a whole generation that might not even be here yet
to start moving in a certain direction too, and we
might not even see the actual benefits of what this
is there. You know, energy is a domino effect kind
of thing. So like, why wouldn't it be like people
seeing the because I think Drake is an artist for sure,

(34:52):
but Kendrick staying on different principles though, right, So it's like,
why couldn't the man who's closer to the roots and
traditional hip hop winning be a good thing? Like that's
going to inspire people to be Like, you know what,
I actually don't want to go to Drake White. Actually,
you know what I mean. I actually want to stay
to something. I want to stick to my vulnerability. I
want to stick to being transparent. I want to stick
to exploring new cadences, new explorations sonically through music. You

(35:15):
get what I'm saying. So I think I really think
it's a great thing.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
So yeah, I agree with you with that. Like I
think Kendrick's artistry people aspire to be more like that,
which I think we need. But to Yes's point, I
think that hip hop did take a take a hit,
but not for what he's saying. I think so because
like Drake fell off right quote unquote air quotes, he

(35:37):
fell off, and Drake had been the artist for the
most part kind of holding the uh shit together, holding
shit together for hip hop. He's the one that's charting,
He's the one that's keeping hip hop relevant all over
the world. So if he quote unquote fell off and
people are like fucking with him as much, then hip

(35:58):
hop takes to dive and Kendrick doesn't release much music.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Drake was the one in music doesn't interview put people on.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
But Drake's not bigger than hip hop though, so I
wouldn't give him that credit.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
What huh?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Not bigger than hip hop? But globally he represented hip
hop d water on his back.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Drake is the only hip hop artist right now than Drake.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
There's nobody bigger than hip hop.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
What in hip hop is bigger than Drake right now?
If you wouldn't like Kendrick, yeah, come, but he goes
what in hip hop? Right? What is the only thing
that you got in hip hop? Right? Now is drama.
You got Ice, Spice rising to the top of the charts.
What are we doing in this? You got drill and
we're talking about nothing in hip hop that's really doing anything.

(36:46):
Nothing starts making moving. And I like that girl though,
the girl Kendrick, Don't you I Love?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Don't you Love?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's hip hop? But they killed Doc? Why y'all killing Doci?
She's tough.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
This is music. You gotta let her rock because she
do it all effortlessly. Yeah, she wanted them one to one.
She come from the td E cham Thum.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
And so I'm saying hip hop is eating his kids.
It doesn't. Hip hop does not want hip hop to live.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Things change, and people got to understand that, like things
change all around the world. There's like massive wealth transfers,
like things happen and this is just part of them things.
It's different phases of life for the Earth. Earth come
through earthquake here, tsunami here, hurricane there, tornado here like,
and then the Earth is still here. You get what
I'm saying, Like, that's change is inevitable.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I hope that's what he is.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Nigga, shit ain't going nowhere, and not because of Drake either.
It's like Drake is not He's not nearly big enough
to tank something just because he's not involved in it anymore.
He don't got with he don't.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I don't think it ends without Drake. That's matter. It's
bleeding without him. It was in summer. It's just like,
nobody's really able to grab that banner and be like,
all right, I got it. That's nobody. And this is
because it's been so long and the dominance that he
had was so massive. Still got it right, And I
agree with that because that's I still play. Please, let's

(38:06):
talk about hip hop eating itself. We got two other
hip hop shits. I wanted to talk about it. I
don't real don't want to talk about It's too late in
the game. You know, we missed two weeks of that
ship with the Charlie Kirk shit. So it's just like, yo,
look bro.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
You think people not getting a million off of that
ship still?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Today?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Was that like that shit? That that algorithms?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I just wonder if black people should have empathy for
that situation based off the fact that he was assassinated
based off political beliefs. That's the real question that I had.
We could go into the hip hop shit, but I'm
not sure if we ever really answered that question.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Don't ask us to be empathetic when we're we have
to be apathetic and seeing our own people die all
the time. That's all I want to say. So I
think with black people, all you can really ask us
to do is like maybe be indifferent about it, you
know what I mean, Like, I don't celebrate the nigga
getting asassinated front of it his kids because as far
as I know, he ain't shot nobody, as far as
I know, he ain't putting nobody in jail, As far

(39:05):
as I know, he ain't did like certain things that's
like unforgivable to me, Like if he a bitch ass
nigga that the world is filled with those, you know
what I mean, So if he just one of them,
it is what it is. But what I've want is
I don't want to don't tell Black people what to
feel at the end of the day, Like, don't tell
us to give empathy when we have to turn our
own what's natural to us off just so we can
continue surviving through the day, because we got actual family

(39:27):
members who die in every day, homies who die in
every day, seeing niggas literally get killed in the most gruesome,
demonic ways every day, and y'all niggas don't make no
noise about that. Y'all keep y'all life moving, you know
what I'm saying. All the fucking PTA moms and y'all
fucking doing plates and all that. Yeah, y'all not bothered. Boy,
the shit that we got to see. We seeing Trayvon
die a hundred times. Now you get what I'm saying.
So y'all lost one. I hate that his family had

(39:50):
to see that because I don't think that's right with God.
Like fuck how black people feel. I don't think God
likes that, you know what I mean? The fact that
a man had to be murdered in front of his children.
As far as I know, he didn't nothing punishable by
death per se. You know what I'm saying, I don't
know that he did anything that's punishable by death.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Like that's arguable.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Let me get arguable. Let me get that life from you, you
know what I mean? Because you kill somebody, you responsible
for this person being in jail when they're INNO say,
I don't know anything about that. At the same time,
just you know, don't tell black people how to feel,
you know, because the fact that we already we maintaining
how we are is kind of sick in itself, you
know what I mean, Like we just pushing shit back
because we don't got time to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
They're definitely calling us monkeys and all types of shit
all over things. They mad at us. They're mad at
black people, saying they don't care or yo, he went
out the way he went out. Yeah, but when we
go through some shit, y'all. Literally they removed Jimmy Kimmel
off the fucking what's the name of the Lake show?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Off the Lake Show before we go there, Like, well,
if I know you was like, we don't know if
he's he hasn't been violent personally, like with a gun
and shot a black person, whatever. But you could say
that what he preaches, he's the post boy for white supremacy,
and white supremacy is responsible for a lot of violence.

(41:06):
Racism is a form of violence. So what he stood
for has directly caused violent interactions for black people. So
that alone, I can understand black people not having any
empathy for his life.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
You know what I mean too, What he.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Symbolized is violence towards us.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
The system of white supremacy is to me, the biggest
threat against black people worldwide, you know what I mean.
And he's the post boy for that. So if he
gets clapped and we don't have empathy for him, like
short shoulders, that's kind of what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'm just like, listen, don't just don't tell black people
how to feel, you know what I mean, we don't care.
If we don't, we don't care about it. Then it's like,
I mean, bro, we got.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
A lot about them people that actually celebrated it.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I mean again, don't tell black people how to feel.
That's how I feel, you know what I mean, Like
you could never a white person could never understand how
serious this black experience get. We don't got enough podcasts
in the world to really break it down, you know
what I'm saying, Like this black experience shit get real.
Like I talk to my mom all the time and
i'd be like, you know, I think when I pray

(42:12):
these days, I need God to work on my heart posture,
you know what I mean. Because I'm really mad at
white people for what they've done to us in a
real way, in a real way, I'm like I in
a real way the ship that is, it'd be tough
for me. Bro I'm not even gonna lie to you,
And I be asking God. I'm asking God to work
on my heart parstire, and I'm asking my mom to
pray for me so help me through it, because sometimes

(42:33):
I be like, you know what, emotions are a double
eded sword, and it's like, at the end of the day,
sometimes they don't benefit me to be mad at you,
you know what I'm saying, because at the end of
the day, like the anger that I feel towards you
is the anger that I'm just resting in my body,
and that's not good for you. It's not good for me, right,
So at the end of the day, it's like what's
more important like me making sure I'm in the right
space to get ahead in life or me being like

(42:54):
feeling you know, it's like, try to pay it no
min as best as you can. But I got serious
anger issues toward white people because like I don't think
people know the things that I know. Like I had
a conversation when my man's in real quick, I'm gonna
just say this and get off of it. You know,
we were caught full long time he was saying, you
sound like you got hate in your heart, right, I
was like, you know what, I laughed. I was like,
you know what, maybe I'll do. I was like, but

(43:15):
and I have to break it down to him, bro,
And I started saying this shit ton. He started holding
his mouth because he ain't thought about it like that.
Do you understand that these people was boiling babies and
hot water?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Bro? You go talk about that.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Talk about that like I'm talking about Can you imagine
talk about that boiling a child?

Speaker 3 (43:32):
That's not enough for you? I got something better. Can
you imagine a slave master fucking your wife in front
of you? You to destroy your confidence? That's not enough
of you? I got more. Can you imagine a nigga
walking around the land and he's the symbol of strength,
right and people love his people love seeing that, and

(43:53):
so you're gonna make him fuck another nigga kill both
of their confidence? Like can you can you imagine niggas?
Like can you imagine? Like can you imagine like your
wife reaching out to you while she being raped? You
understand what I'm saying, and she like she know you
can't do nothing about it. But it's just human nature
to ask for help, You get what I'm saying, And
she like, please help me, and that nigga can't do

(44:15):
nothing about it. And guess what, she gonna get pregnant.
You get know what I'm saying. And y'all gotta get
back to whatever shack that y'all living in. And you
gotta love her while she carrying the seat of a
demon inside of her body. And she gonna love that
baby too, and you gotta love her through that, nigga.
What indeed, let me tell you something I learned in

(44:35):
one of my classes in college. I flunked that. I
don't remember the class, but I remember that this is
how generational trauma worked. There was this experiment where this
farmer had an electrical fence and he brought a bunch
of fresh cattle that had never been there before. And
the cows, just like that happens with dogs all the time,
they didn't know that the fence was electrical. A cow

(44:57):
that was pregnant went up to the electrical fence, burned
her nose. She gave birth to that calve. That calf
never touched that fence. But that calf doesn't have the
life experience. It doesn't know, but it was genetically passed down.
This is real. These are not opinions. So you take
that right if you can just believe that that's factually based.
You don't gotta take my opinion for it. Just google it.
So then you take that and then just extrapolate how

(45:17):
you think that trauma might pass through with us. Just
think about that. But y'all, nigga wouldn't understand. You get
what I'm saying, because y'all doing yoga and walking dogs
early in the morning and having Caribbean women take care
of your babies. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
You wouldn't understand. You wouldn't understand, like you just genuinely
wouldn't understand. So when we don't feel a way about it,
it's like, Nigga, you don't know how deep this shit go. Bro,
You just don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
That's true. It's real and like the way I really feel.
And I was talking to a white due working with
him one day. I was working with white dudes somewhere
and he follows us and he was like, YO, to
be honest, you and Charlie Kirk is kind of on
the same shit, y'all just you on one side of

(45:59):
it and he's on the other side. And I was like,
is that how you really feel about it? Because y'all
did something to us. Your people literally had us in
steel plated collars. Brother, how do you I'm watching the
show right, Vikings. This is what y'all was doing. That

(46:19):
was literally going different people countries and killing them and
taking their ship for nothing. It wasn't even like y'all
needed it like that.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
It was just that's what y'all did. It's not even
that they did something. They're doing something to us. This
is still going on.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
It's still happening, hanging us, you know what I mean,
beating us, starving us. The whole concept of soul food
it came from you get what I'm saying, Like the
whole concept of that. Like we tell we we celebrated,
but like a nigga, it's so you want to talk
about the trauma, the Trump nigga, You got us eating bad,
killing ourselves. My nigga, what you're talking about. We don't
know shit about the nutritious nothing. We don't know nothing

(46:54):
about none of that, nigga. We fucking bro part of
part part of the reason why. And I worked here,
I was quiet because I was just surviving. Bro, I
was genuinely surviving like I was. I remember one day.
I have been in survival mode so long, bro, you
know what I mean that? Like, I remember one day
I was cleaning my room while I was working here.

(47:17):
I was cleaning my room, though, and I had like
napkins and Ketchup packers and shit, and part of cleaning
my room I was putting it. I was putting the
napkins like neatly in a little area and the Ketchup
package neatly in the area. And then it took my
girlfriend to tell me, like why don't you just buy
a Ketchup bottle? And why don't you just buy paper towels?
And I was like, yeah, why don't I do that?

(47:39):
Like why don't I do that? But as I was
cleaning my room, that was part of me cleaning it.
I was comparted, like let me put everything, you know
what I'm saying. So, like what I'm saying is like
y'all wouldn't understand the levels of survival because it was
like I had been on the move for so long
that this was part of me being on the move.
You know what I'm saying, I need to keep my
little ketchup package because you never know when you're gonna

(47:59):
need it. So y'all again, y'all, these niggas, they don't
they don't understand. Bro, we be going through shiit.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I never I never Yo. Wolf just spoke o. Yo.
He just cooked. He literally just cooked. Because as I'm
watching the videos of people talking this to the other
you don't really I don't think they understand the black
experience and me being and I'm so used to it
that I might not even realize what the fuck I'm
going through A thousand percent desensitized. I seen it. I
was like, oh shit, that she's like a faucet, right,

(48:29):
But I'm not thinking like yo. It really took me
to like continue to watching the news and ship like, oh,
this man just got assassinated, Like we ain't watch nothing
like this in years. Yeah, for sure, a political person
just got assassinated live on TV. But didn't another political
a senator, like a woman or something like that. She

(48:50):
was killed in her crib. Remember the fake police officer
went to her crib, killed her and her husband. They
had Nancy Pelosi's husband in the head with a hammer.
Remember that that ship was nobody say nothing about that.
It was like, oh it happened, and it kind of
just disappeared. Right, So this shit has been happening.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
It's back to what Trump said, Bro, it's this American shit. Bro,
it's this American shit. Every nigga who lead the country, bro,
they say the same thing. That's how you know it again, conviction.
It sound like the true why everybody leader the country
side the same thing. They're like, niggas is running the
circus down.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
It's white supremacy, which is outside of America. America has
just mastered it, yeah, mastering and other countries in Europe
have like oh okay, I like the ship that they
they kind of adapted always. But the shit is prevalent
all over the world because of white supremacy. So like
if I had a white coworker like you had Tahoe,
It's like it's not even a fair it's not an

(49:45):
analogous say statement to talk about how all prejudices against
white people. We're working against a system of white supremacy
and a lot of the black Like if you tried
to say, like, oh, black excellence and shit like that, Oh,
it's the same thing as white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Like, actually, it's not.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
To your point, they've done so many systemic things to
try to destroy our confidence. We have to build our
confidence with things like Black Lives Matter and and and
Black excellence and things like that. And to white people,
they're like, oh, well, that's not fair. You guys are
talking about how good you are and you have confidence
in your racis. Like, yo, we're doing that not because

(50:23):
we're trying to make y'all inferior. We're doing that to
boost confidence, to fight against everything, all the racism that.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
We've had to deal with, trying to catch.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
It's not it's not an equal comparison, you know, trying
to catch.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Bro, we talk about the fact that other people hate
on us, What about the hate that we give each other?
Like that?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Like that's also they come they go right back though,
you know what I mean, They go right back to
They set the trend for us, you know what I mean.
They put the ball in motion, and in a lot
of ways it's still rolling, you know what I mean.
Starting with the food, you know what I mean, Starting
with the food, starting with hustle culture, starting with killing
each other, messaging, starting with like I was just telling
the dude in the studio the other day, like when

(51:10):
I was growing up in Texas, like life was like
was as simple as you with the black, you white,
you Asian or you're Mexican and that's it. And it
was Africans in the school. But I didn't think. I
didn't look at them like me. But that's what they
want though, you know what I mean, They fucking running
commercials on TV all day if Africans donate this money
and they got flies on their face and shit, and
you're thinking, like, uh, subconsciously, like that shit don't look good.

(51:33):
I'm not like that, you know what I mean, And
were saying shit like African booty scratches and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
But where did all these things come from? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
So like even then, I don't expect y'all to understand, like, yeah,
we do. It's a it's a they call it generational curses,
you know what I'm saying, because it exceeds one lifetime,
right like we stuck in this hamster wield, this infinite loop.
Because I mean, this shit get deep, bro, because you
know what I mean, how you expect, how you expect
your son to be better than his father when his

(51:59):
father did still that information in his son. How you
expect a daughter to be better than her mother when
her mother didn't teach it to it, she would have
to be blessed by another figure in the community, or
it have to be like a miracle or something like that.
So these things don't happen overnight. Bro, We need niggas
like doctor Sevey to come through and they kill him.
All I mean, like, I didn't know about this. Look,

(52:21):
I was vegan for a couple years. I'm not vegan anymore.
But like one thing I take serious about what I
put into my body is now and the stand you
know what I mean? I can link things together now. Oh,
this is why I don't be in a good move,
you know what I'm saying. This is why I don't
feel all the things right. I didn't know about doctor
Sebbe until Nipsey, you ge know what I'm saying. Like
Nipsey talking about they killed doctor Sebbe. He was teaching Hell,
I'm like, who the fuck is doctor Seby? I go

(52:41):
and I go do my research, change my whole life,
change my whole life. But I didn't get that from
my mom, and I didn't get that from my dad
and get from it for my grandparents either. I had
to get that from a rapper, you know what I'm saying.
So our people was like, of course we fucked up.
Look at everything we've been through. I still think about
a story you told me forever ago about an experience
I think walking one of your siblings to school one
day and some of the things that you was experiencing

(53:03):
in the neighborhood, things that was going on, Like the
way I hear New York is talking about growing up
in New York. That shit sounded like a fucking movie, bro, movie,
It was a movie. It sounds like a movie. Like
I it's hoods all around the world, right, But you
got to give it up to places like La Chicago,
New York. You gotta give it up because it was
just different here, you know what I mean, Like kids

(53:23):
talking about Bro, how many stories have I heard from
somebody who born and raised here talking about they got
robbed as a child by grown man, you know what
I'm saying. Or somebody got a rob for their bike
or something like that. But it's like, but why, And
then you think about like drugs and what drugs did
to the people. How did the drugs get here?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
My nigga?

Speaker 3 (53:39):
You know what I'm saying. You giving niggas football numbers
for this? You know it's like, but then it's people
with who the murdered people got shorter sentences than people
with with with a drug convictions or whatever. You get
what I'm saying. So this, yeah, this shit, get deep money.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Get the robbery shit is funny because I remember to
think two robberies that that. Now that I think about it,
it's math funny. One and I was in Bronx Science.
I robbed a Chinese kid for his head his walkman,
took the train back to bed Star, got off of Franklin.
The niggas robbed me for the walkman. I went home

(54:17):
like yo, I just put my best tape in there,
like damn right then, as when I got older, robbing
niggas in the Diamond District, going to like check cashing
places in the city, right and just waiting out there
follow them. I'm with two niggas. We robbed a nigga.
One of the niggas runs with the money. Now we're

(54:38):
chasing the nigga with the money because we ain't want
him to rob us because Yo, you know he got
the money, he might take five hundred off and put
it to his pocket. Be like, yo, he only had
six hundred and give us two apiece. Now he got
seven and we got two hundred. You never know, you
know what I'm saying. So it's crazy like the way
we do each other. But to move this shit along
a little bit, do y'all think jay Z is robbing

(55:01):
the black community? Matter of fact, before I ask that question,
I want to get this leaf off.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Right here out to the plant. Is jay Z robbing
the community? I'll take that one.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
They're talking about jay Z with this casino obviously, I
don't know if y'all know the casino that was supposed
to be in Times Square right yesterday, and there was
a good push from some black people, but for the
most part on social media, from a lot of talking

(55:39):
heads and from just people that you know, have a Twitter.
There's people that have Internet have been saying how bad
it was an idea for Whope to actually put this
casino in, to try to put a casino into Times Square?
What do y'all think about that?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
So from the aspect of like black on Black talk
or just what do I think about the idea.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Because then we can mature that conversation.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
So, you know, I think it was a good idea.
There's always pros and cons and tymen. You spoke about
this off the record, but I think that there's always
pros and cons to everything. When the Barclay Center was coming,
everybody was protesting. All people got displaced, it's going to
be more traffic. I was like, there wasn't a bunch

(56:27):
of people that got displaced, and those people got compensated
for that.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
It's not like a public.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Housing project or something got displaced and there was nowhere
to put so and then with Barclay Center, it bought
in so many jobs. Like we know plenty of people
that work there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I know people that been working there, sister shit open,
people that ain't have shit going on. It's about a
lot of black people that work in the Barclays. We
all got a little connects and ship from the hood that.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Something like that, it creates its own economy. So now
we could have concerts there, and you know, now the
people that tour and come to Brooklyn, they can sell
their merch people, the businesses in the neighborhood can have
after parties, restaurants get populated.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It helps the economy, stimulates everything.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
People visit New York. We got fucking NBA draft and
shit like that. You don't think that stimulates the economy
every year and these events happen multiple times a year, right,
So I think that's a fair comparison of Barclays to
the casino. Does it cause a little bit of traffic? Yeah,
could have been something else there in place or community center, sure,

(57:42):
But at the end of the day, there's always pros
and cons. And I thought of it.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
What about the people that say that he lied to
the black community talking about he owned the nets or
he owned this, any of it, but he only had
like a one percent. Somebody was like, oh, he lied
just to get out support for this, and then as
soon as he got his money he left and got
out of it. That's yes, yes, yes, nah, I think damn.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
I think it was a bad idea. I'm gonna say that,
what was the casino idea? It was a bad idea. Respectfully,
very respectfully. Shout out to people over there, but I
think it was a bad idea because when you're thinking
about think about places where casinos are, right, what do
casinos bring more crime, more poverty.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
That's not true. That's true.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Show me an example, Give me an example of where
you would want to live by a casino. Give me
where they have casinos. Bro, we're talking about Time Square.
They have a bit.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
But this is what I'm talking about. Who cares about
who lives in Times Square? We don't live over there, bro,
but people live there. What are you talking about? They
have a zero, Bro.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
There's people that live there. Bro, what are we talking about.
We're basically saying people.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
There's a Season's casino in New Orleans. Y'all know I
go to New Orleans often, right, it's right downtown, similar
to what you would consider Times Square, you know what
I mean. It's in the French quarters, and ours would
be in Times Square, same ship. It's there mostly for tourists.
But the people that live in New Orleans go there.
There's no violence, there's no fights. It's probably the safest

(59:15):
place in New Orleans. You're not gonna pop no ship
in Times Square, nigga, just like you know what I mean?
Thousands of police. Yeah, like who goes there? Now, it's
not gonna it's not gonna. No violence is gonna come
from that.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
You know, you know why violence is a problem because
the casino itself said that they would supply the area
with extra a private security firm. That's that tells you
right there that they are expecting more violence. If they
are saying this is what we're gonna bring with the situation,
that that's said.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Something telling you that they're willing to deal with whatever
the thought of something. You know, we're already gonna push
it into place so that doesn't happen. What Times Square?
You say, Spider Man and Batman fighting and it's white
a man in the fake Batman? What are we.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Talking about Times Square from twenty years ago? I've been yeah, bro,
Time Squiz is fucked up. Bro, it's not like what
are we saying?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Bro? Right? If Time Square is fucked up? Now, how
much worse do you think putting one hundred million dollars
into it? Is it gonna get? You're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Okay, I am going to gentrify this area. I'm going
to put hundreds of millions of dollars into this ship
right here so that it doesn't look the way it
looks right here. And y'all are saying, nah, that's bad, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Raise crime up from what I can see. Your life
like it, it finds a way to push it out
the way, and unfortunately some other things get pushed out too.
But I don't see more crime though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Listen, well, I disagree, you know I would like to hear.
I'm literally not arguing with you. I'm arguing with the idea.
And so I'm not even arguing with it because I
really don't give a fuck about the time square or
because you know, I don't gamble, and people are saying, oh,
black people are disproportionately affected by gambling, and you know

(01:01:07):
it would harm the community. I'm like bro in my
mind yesterday, trom Wolf. You can gamble on your phone
like a bitch. There's nothing like it's nothing. You can
parlay a million times a night. Now, you can parlay
horse golf, fucking rabbit in the hat. Hey is the

(01:01:29):
rabbit gonna come out the hat? You can parlay anything
you can find right now then putting then its ain't
going to Times Square to fucking gamble. If you can
do it right here on your phone, it's not gonna
change nothing. And as Trump said, also, this is not
me saying I wanted the casino there I'm literally just
arguing the points that I'm hearing as Trump. As Trump

(01:01:52):
said that they're not only adding security, but I can't
remember the other thing you said, sorry, providing jobs, providing thousands,
hundreds of jobs, mostly for black people. The people who
are going against this thing, which yeah, they're talking about,
he's a black jobs. Trump working in the is a

(01:02:15):
black job. They're saying that he's a black capitalist.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Jay Z, he's a capitalist. Okay, I'm a capitalist too, I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Said, worpitalists in this country, capitalists, you're working for capital.
You're working for more capital.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Capital.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
You want to get more. You want to get a promotion,
so what you can get more. You'd like to own
a business or whatever so that you can get more.
This is what are we talking about. Why is it
that they're so mad at him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
About aliens trying to capitalize nigga?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
One thing I do want to ask y'all, okay, away
from this time screen, shiit we none of us are
really so invested in it yesterday you have anything else? No, no, no, no Trump.
Do y'all think the Barclays Center hurt Brooklyn?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
No, absolutely not. I'm only been here sixty years. I'm respectful. Respectfully,
I'm gonna stay out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yesterday. Yo, this is a conversation. You can go against
it if you want. We're not going to say you don't.
So all of the people that are saying you're saying no.
But you know abs, you're saying absolutely not. So what
about all of the black people? This neighborhood used to
be black? It's not anymore. This is a white neighborhood.

(01:03:30):
Now it's a white and absolutely oh, without the chadow
of a doubt. I was here. I watched it when
Brett Rattner that's his name right, brought the idea, the
idea of closing down the Atlantic railroads over there, or
not closing it down, but buying it out and bringing

(01:03:51):
a basketball team to Brooklyn. I saw my first white
person that year. I saw my first white person that
was not a pull police officer on gates and no
stream that year. I had no idea what was coming
once this ship. They was dead serious. They started buying
up property here and here I started coming and building.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Huh, I see, I'll get it now. So I've actually
looked at the numbers, and we could pull up the numbers.
Over the years, the gentrification of Brooklyn happened at the
most rapid pace during the last recession, the recession that
was around seven eight. When did the When when the
recession hit, white folks could no longer afford to live

(01:04:34):
in Manhattan and Brooklyn prices skyrocket. My crib doubled in
value during that time. That was before the Barclays.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
That was the start of the real gentrification push. We
could look at the numbers and look to see when,
and look to see when Barclays was built, and to
see if the numbers spiked. But it did not spike
at the level that it spiked from the recession.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Planning for the Bark They Sonner began in December two
thousand and three, two thousand and seven, they purchased the
naming rights for the venue twenty ten. Construction on the
arena begins. In the midst of all of this is
when I'm talking about gentrification was already starting to happen. Yes,
once they knew Yo, when they know they're bringing the

(01:05:19):
Mason Square garden, they're gonna put it right here. You
don't think people are thinking about the right the housing
getting down interest that what's gonna happen to the housing.
There was nothing but broken down homes everywhere. Some people
are people are thinking about businesses, like, oh shit, if
I put my business here, I can make a lot
of money. I'm about buy this property. That's whatever. I'm

(01:05:40):
gonna buy this out this Mama Pops Dow. Remember Vinie's
had the spot over there. Oh get rid of that.
Now we're gonna cop that. Turn that into something else,
you know what I mean, would turn this into a
shake shack.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
My point is this, it sounds like it could be
misplaced anger because this happened to happen around the same
time as the recession. So act could you be like, oh,
it's the Barclays when a whole recession forced this to
happen more so right, So it's kind of like you
could say, oh, well, the Starbucks opened on Franklin Avenue
and then all the white people came, let's blame Starbucks.

(01:06:10):
Like you can't make that type of have that type
of misplaced anger and blame Starbucks. There's so many other factors,
and from what in the research I've done and the
conversations I've had and being you know, go to community
board meetings, and the recession was the pinpoint period, that
two three year period.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Eye that was the catalyst, like that big bang.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
It so could have a right Barclays could have contributed
to it because it probably raised values. Property values being
raised is a part of gentrification, but I don't think
it's as big a factor as you think it is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
But going to the point about the casino Trump, it's
the same idea applies there once you have Once you
have the idea, and then you have the move. Everything
follows the move. So that's why I said, when you
put the casino in for the second Street, what do
you think happens to Harlem? What do you think happens
to Yes, what happens to the people that all of
the black people that live in those areas That it's
the same thing, exactly what you're saying about what happens

(01:07:08):
to Brooklyn, Bedstar, Crown Heights, Clinton Hill, Fort Greene, Right, Williamsburg, Bushwick.
You see what I'm saying, Like how the gentrification leads
through all of those branches. It's the same, it's the
same idea.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Literally just had this conversation the other day about gentrification.
You can't stop fly ship from happening in your neighborhood
because you're afraid that the property values are going to
go up. That's kind of productive. The problem is we're
not on the other side of the property values being
growing up. We're not in the ownership side.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Property value going up is not a bad thing. That's
not the sole respond that's not the sole damage of gentrification.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Well, I think they are scared of the flyshit going
on and then being pushed out because not necessarily the
property value going on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
It's like our neighborhood don't look like being in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Our neighborhood is in hours no more that you don't
think that that's a bad thing because only now the
property value goes up, but only they can afford it.
They change the way bedstyle looks. It's not even called
bed sign anymore. It's like Stuyvesant Heights.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
They control who they allow to buy you, see what
I'm saying, So they won't even let you play if
you're not at a certain level. So that that's what's
making it, that's what makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Want I want to know what why Trump thinks that
this is not a bad idea. And again I'm just
arguing against you, right, but you present at that point
that you're saying it's not Brooklyn doesn't look like ours anymore.
This was our ship. Why don't you think that's a
bad thing. I do think that's a bad thing, But
you're arguing that I don't think it's a direct result.

(01:08:47):
I think there's a lot of factors involved. I think
flyship being built is a small fraction of why this
is happening, and I think we focus too much on
that small fraction. That's my point.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Yes, there is so responsibility and blame for the Barclays
and for this fly shit for property values to go up,
But what I'm saying is, at the end of the day,
you want property values to go up in your neighborhood
that you live in, because that means the neighborhood is
getting better. The school system is better, that it's safer,
there's more entertainment, there's more things to do, there's more

(01:09:19):
fly restaurants and bars. That's what you want your neighborhood
to do. And when when shit gets fly, property value
goes up. That just means more people want to live there.
It's not an exact correlation to gentrification. Gentrification. That's one
part of gentrification is property values going up. There's other
parts of it, and I'm like, I think we're focusing
on the wrong part. I think that it's that rent

(01:09:41):
going up for people, you know what I mean, Like
if the domino effect of them bringing some new shit
knowing that new money gonna come in, knowing that they
can afford the new money. It's like, get these old
ass niggas who've been in this spot for however long
they've been fuck y'all, you all get gone, go to
North Carolina or something like that, you know what I mean, Get.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Pushed because I think that's the actual problem. The property
value going up. A lot of people not owners, so
that don't matter to them anyway, you get what I'm saying.
But you think about the people who the RINT keep
going up, and it's like, my nigga, why that RINT
keep going up? Because I know it's somebody who can
afford it, nigga, and it's not you, So leave, you
know what I mean. And that's only one way I
can push you out. You already broke, you barely keeping
it together anyway, so I don't gotta do much. I'm

(01:10:16):
gonna just press on. You're gonna lean on you just
a little bit, and then you're gonna get pushed out
of it. And then it's like, once you're gone, now,
I'm gonna take your room what they call it. I'm
gonna double that bitch, you know, throw an extra five
hundred ons. It ain't gonna mean nothing to that fucking thousands,
you know, thousand thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
My last tenant was paying twelve, my next, My next
tenant after that was twenty three, and my next ten
after that is twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I paid twenty eight now and it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Bro, But I'm talking about three tenants. Yeah, one way
from twelve in two thousand and eight. I don't know
when I came when I took over this crib. I
guess it was two thousand and while are you raising
the rent? I was looking at I'm looking at the affair.
What's happened in the neighborhood? Yeah? Fair out? You fuck?

(01:11:00):
Is the fair market value? Yo? Why am I?

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That's what I'm saying. That's what the whole conversation is about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
It has to pay my mortgage.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, but you're not pushing out black people. That's the difference.
But it's the same concept though, are you dead?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Hey? Esus?

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
So that's why I say like instead instead of making
the home, instead of blaming the homeowner capitalism, there's somebody
that's moving in that's paying the twenty one hundred. We
need more black people to be able to afford that number.
Like that's I think we should need to reverse engineer
shit like the rent going up ain't the problem because

(01:11:41):
there's people that could afford it, And how come are
people can't afford?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Like what are we not doing? And that's actually what
was happening with me when my mom was controlling this building.
The person she had living here, the rent was twelve hundred,
but she was not paying the rent, so she was
always giving my mother up seven hundred or six hundred,
and my mother liked her. So my mother was paying

(01:12:06):
her end of it to cover that part of the
mortgage plus the other part of the mortgage. That's a
great woman, right, my mother was taking care of this
this woman woman. And so when I get the books,
my mother got sick and basically transferred to the house. Right,
I'm looking and I'm like, hold on, what's that about.

(01:12:26):
You didn't even get for no months, for no months,
did you get the full rent? That's business. So it
wasn't that I was just like, hey, I can get more.
It was, hey, you can't afford to live here where
it is now. And she's never increased your rent. She's
never increased your rent. So you've been living here for
twelve years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
That person is still here when you started running it,
you you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
So I had to have an uncomfortable conversation like yo you.
She was like, I knew this conversation was coming. Yeah,
I know you did. You've never you haven't paid the
rent in two years? Yeah, I know you did, Like
my mom did nerves better. You literally was like, come on, bro,
well you know what I'm saying, you can't. And so
it was a mutual, right, It wasn't no hard feel.
But of course the next person I wanted to make

(01:13:10):
sure could pay absolutely and what they could pay was
you know what I mean, yeah, way more. And that's
they just didn't look like us.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
And that's to his point. It's like, we need to
get people in position to make the money to meet
the demand as its continuing to rise. He's just had
and done, you know what I mean. But that's you know,
because that's a that's an even deeper thing. You know what.
What I hate about the conversation about gentrification. Since I've
been living here. I remember the first conversation I heard
people talk about, like day one, I was gonna ask

(01:13:37):
you about this, what's gentrification? And when I bro when
I got to New York, this was my life dream
to be here because I'm like, I'm liking all the
shit that y'allking, but I'm liking it from a distance.
So I'm like, nas the magazines, the record labels, the
music videos, the fashion, loving it, idolizing the shit, and
I still do. I still love New York. So I
got here and I was very surprised to hear people
talk about they was ready to leave, you know. I

(01:13:58):
was very surprised by that, Like genuinely, I was like,
what you mean, this is everything? I'm thinking niggas gonna
be rapping on the block on the corner and sh
like that. And you live here long enough, I really
thought it was I really romanticize, you know. But but
you live here long enough and you start to understand.
And one of the things that I hate is where
I'm from. When black people live in the community, it's

(01:14:21):
just the ghetto. That's kind of it, you know what
I mean. It's like Dallas. I'm from Dallas. I was
born in Oak Cliff. For the people that know, so
O'cliffe is a decent How do you say middle How
does the middle class neighbor It's it's it's it's an neighborhood.
Ain't the worst of the worst's black neighborhood. It's the hood,
you know, I mean, it's the hood.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
It's but you can't say middle class.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Well, it's not middle class. It's not middle class. It's
not middle class. It's the hood, though, I just say
that for any for all people that come from there
and that that's from there. You know about the Cliff,
it's the hood or Pleasant Grove or some of these
other areas in Dallas that's known. And these are like
but these are where homes are though too, you know
what I mean. So it's like, oh, niggas is living
nicer because they living in a home versus the rest

(01:15:02):
of the niggas living in an apartments, you know what
I'm saying. So we look at the even though you
don't know no better. You think, cause a nigga living
in a house and living so much better than you,
And it's like, I mean, it might be better in
an apartment. But you know, but my point being though,
is like when I think about black neighborhoods, I think
about something that's not that nice, you know what I'm saying.
But it's the best of the best in this area.
This is why, Yeah, this is why traveling is so

(01:15:23):
important and exposure is so important to a black person,
because once your mind expands, it'll never go back to
what it was before.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I want to ask you, as a person that moved here,
yeah twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Like that you got a good ass right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
When you say you thought people was rapping on the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Do you think with the stories I'm telling you, the
stories you hold me to tell you, that you would
have wanted to live in that Brooklyn Nah versus the
Brooklyn UNI. Now I feel like what you're taking gentrification
made Brooklyn's.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
I'm gonna get you. I was about to get to
that though.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
All right, y'all, that's it for part one. First of all,
I just want to say thank y'all for being patient
with us for we didn't record last week. You know,
with Dodge being out of town and everything, it was
just a lot for us to get together. But this
has been an amazing episode far and the rest of
the episode is just as good. If you want to
hear it going over to Patreon, you can hear it
in full over in Patreon no ads right now, or

(01:16:28):
you can wait till Friday. I'll have this edited to
release this Friday morning, so on your way to work
and getting ready for your weekend, you can check out
the rest. Yo, it's Wolf, not amazing, it's Wolf like
your serious shit bro, so proud of Wolf. Going over
there and listen to his pod after you finished this one,

(01:16:49):
but make sure you come back this Friday to hear
the rest of this episode or shit going over to
Patreon is with us. Either way, we'll see you in
a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Peace if you know what I'm saying socially mos
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