Weaponizing Whiteness (Part Two)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you know
what I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless, so so so stemless.

(00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
know what I'm saying, so shameless. Say if you know
what I'm saying, so shameless.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
If you know what I'm saying, so you know that's
what it was before.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I want to ask you, as a person that moved here. Yeah,
twenty nineteen, two thousand, like that.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You got a good ass right.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
When you say you thought people was rapping on the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Do you think with the stories I'm telling you, the
stories you've told me to tell you, that you would
have wanted to live in that Brooklyn? Nah, versus the
Brooklyn now feel like you're taking gentrification made Brooklyn welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm gonna get you. I was about to get to
that though. Thank you. That was a beautiful segue into that,
because you're right it did, and that's my perspective on it.
So again, I live in Bad Star and I love
living here.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
This is like the conversation I'm having with myself, beautiful
here now the conversation I'm having with myself these days,
I'm like, where where else would I go a sunny
day in Brooklyn? I don't know, man, I don't know.
I'm talking about a regular day. The trees down the block,
it's grandmother's grandfather sitting on they stoop, it's older brothers
walking they little brothers away from school. It's like, it's

(01:53):
this a magical place, bro And it's like so beautiful
because it's black. But all I'm hearing people say is
this increasing becoming not black? And so then it's like, well,
where else in the world, And the answer is there
is no other place in.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
The world, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean, where else in the world will you get
this like this. I don't know if people think this
is the hood or not, but these buildings, the architecture,
this place is a glorious place. It's a magical place.
I be feeling like I watched the movie the other day.
It was set and I think it's called Dear Brooklyn
and it's some new shit, and I was watching a movie.
I'm like, Nigga, that's my life, you know what I'm saying,
Like I'll be riding my bike, you know what I

(02:27):
mean and walking that's my life, you know, and so
it's nice to see that. But if the black people
start going away, then this is not gonna be that
no more.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
But there's gotta be there's gotta be a middle ground
of understanding. Bro, I was scared growing up, and that's
to your I couldn't walk down the block. Yeah, they
was on you. We was literally like it was a
war zone.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And that's why I feel how I feel. You feel
me because what you lived through is not that no more,
and it's beautiful now. It's beautiful now.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
So I'm really even though I'm arguing against Strom and
the comversation, I wouldn't want it to go back to
the way it was before.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
The shit that I was hearing. A nigga told me
he lost his two front teeth. He was trying to
lock his bike. A nigga said something behind him. He
turned around. Nigga hit him in the mouth with he
said a lock that was in a sock. I don't
know what the and that's how he lost his two
front teeth. As he's talking to me, he was a kid,
you know what I'm saying. He was a young person.
I'm thinking, like, what the fuck would you? Right though,

(03:24):
like I often think, listen, I think this, and I've
asked New Yorkers this, and I can ask y'all to
I'm like, damn, is gentrification. There might be some positives
that can come from it, bro because if it's possible, Damn.
I hate the idea of thinking somebody being pushed out.
But at the end of the day, when I tell
people where niggas got to go, when I tell people

(03:44):
I live, when I tell people where I live on Halsey,
all they tell me is he used to be cracking
over That's all I hear. It used to be crazy
over this. I was looking at a spot somewhere else
on no stream, not notion, somewhere in flabberish. And one
thing about me. I got a lot of women in
my life. I got my mother and my sister. I
got my lady, you know what I mean. I got

(04:05):
people who visit me all throughout the year. I don't
want them walking around there. But where I'm at, you
do whatever you need to do. It's a park right here,
it's a grocery store right there, therapy wan by right here,
Malcolm X's travelroom right here, Dick and James right here.
Do whatever you need to do. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
And that's why it's like, damn bro. They'll talk about Brooklyn,
I'll talk about gentrification around here. I understand that you
was written and you can't. But nigga, it's safer.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's more beautiful like that. The up cap for the
neighborhood is different in fact that Jack, So I had
to look it up because I looked it up before.
Look it up the definition of gentrification because there was
a conversation I heard before, and they looked it up
because it was important, right. A process in which a

(04:53):
poor area experiences an influx of middle class or wealthy
people who renovate and build homes and businesses, which often
results in an increase in property values and the displacement
of earlier, usually poorer residents and lack of culture. Nothing
about the definition mentions race. And the reason why I

(05:14):
want to look it up because I remember I was
watching something and it was like, yo, we have to
gentrify our own neighborhoods. And there are some examples of
black people gentrifying their own neighborhoods. You can have middle
upper class black people move in, build nice businesses raise
the property values and it stays black. But it's still

(05:34):
a cycle. There's going to be people that used to
live there that can't afford it anymore. The problem with
gentrification in this case is the people that can't afford
it are excuse me, the people that can afford to
move in are mostly not black. So that's the problem,
and that's why I keep going back to, like, yo, gentrification,
property values going up is not the bad thing. It's

(05:56):
the fact that we're on the wrong end of the stick,
you know what I mean. As ignorant as they want
to be, they just hear loving this shit, have no
idea that they change and everything about it. Thought, this
is the thing.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Just to finish this part, right, yeah, because I have
several other things I want to discuss.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Trump.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I agree with you, but what I don't like, and
what's not mentioned in that article is when they changed
what the area looked like, what it represented, right, The
reason you're hear in the first place, uh so, right,
exactly when you start putting up Danish German Danish spots,

(06:35):
you know what I mean, and all of the things
that were there to cater to that black community start
getting shut down. And you're putting in your own stores
and shit like that. When you can't barbecue outside no
more because it's disturbing the white neighbors. Like things like that.
When once you you change the way the neighborhood runs lever,

(06:57):
you know the feel of it. To me, that's gentrific too,
And that's not said in that definition.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
But that's why you came here. That's the sick part
about it. Like, the same reason why I came here
is a lot of reasons why they come here too.
It's like, nigga, we heard about what you got going
on over here. I'm trying to see and then you
get here and it's just just like you. I'm trying
to go to sleep at seven pm. I got work
at nine, and it's like, so now we can't double that.
You outside.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
July fourth, I was sitting on the stoop. It must
have been nine pm. This kid down the block let
off some fire crackers in the middle of the street.
White man comes running down his stoop, up the blood.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, No, you can't do that here. No, No, we
have families. We're going to sleep, bro. It's nine o'clock
July fourth. It's July four.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Literally the whole city is landing up fire crackers right now?
The fuck is you to come running down the steps
and tell.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
This man he can't do it? That's all he knows.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who the fuck is you?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
The entitlement, bro, That's what I said that and you know,
and that's also that's another thing that they don't mention
it with the gentrification part. How to your exact point,
When he comes down the street and he comes and
makes that statement, you know, he's weaponized and the whiteness
because ultimately he knows that he just has to make
one call. No, I'm that serious, He just has to
make you know what I'm saying, Like, he just has

(08:21):
to make one call and the whole situation is neutralized.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So it's like he has an added level you know
what I'm saying, He has an added level of cache.
You know what I'm saying, even though he's not from here,
he never been here. He don't got cache on the block,
you don't. You know what I'm saying. But he can
come and speak with the level of authority because all
I got to do is get on the You feel
what I'm saying, and I shut this whole ship down to.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Tie it all together. I think the best situation is
just a little bit of balance, you know what I mean,
And like where a bed start is. Right now, I
feel like it's a nice balance. It's still very black,
even though probably probably on paper, on paper, it's probably like,
but culturally it's still black. There's still a lot of
black businesses. There's a lot of especially in the summertimes.

(09:06):
The vibes, the culture is very black. But you know,
white folks got their shipped to the Connecticut muffin or whatever.
You know what I mean, You need to balance. What
is that? That's Connecticut Muffins.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
That's a yo, that's it is a They have one
by my job on. It's a muffin shop, basically Connecticut muffin.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's like a Starbucks type of ship. Like when you
see that, you're like, this is the hood. No more
Connecticut Muffins symbolism of like, right, this the hood. But
there's plenty of black on spots that's lit. And that's
what I'm saying, that's not plenty. We had a good
spot right now, But the problem is it looks like
it's on the trajectory of getting worse. We just don't
like seeing them that. We just don't like saying them

(09:48):
what it is. It's like we see y'all, it's like
that goes the neighborhood, like y'all represent a virus in
a sense, like Western com It's like, my nigga would
be better if you knew how to get with the
fucking program. If you know how to get with the program,
maybe should it be all right? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I don't know of y'all seen the whole Dame Dash
ship on Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I love that. Pay attention to that. I love I
love that. What'd y'all think about that interview? You're watching?
Any Damash interview? It's so difficult with Bro. I love
that Bro. I feel like he represents what nigga should
be striving for in a lot of ways. I mean,
he is who he is. I ain't trying to beat
the nigga. I fuck with Dame Bro. I fuck with him,

(10:31):
and I feel like, listen, I have my own bias,
my own biases, but I'm willing to hear you. Yeah, yeah,
what do you think about?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
What do you think? What do you think about? What
he represents that we should.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
All strive for ownership, leadership, What is your own? What
is your own? Right now? I don't know, but he'd
be preaching about ownership though. I know that though, Like
he had the whole iconic moment on Breakfast Club where
he was up there putting delta ass about ownership and equity.
Let me tell you something, Let me tell you how
black people work. For the most part, we don't know
shit until we get exposed to shit. Right, So a

(11:08):
lot of us don't come from families who own businesses.
A lot of us don't come from people who can
put us on to certain kind of things. But like
I said, once your brain expanded, can never go back. Equity.
One of the first times I ever heard the word
equity was during that that episode on the Breakfast Club.
I never ain't know what equity was. That was what
that was a long time ago. So I was like,
once I realized what equity was, and I was like, oh, well,

(11:28):
let me look into that. And then you start to
learn he talking about ownership, I don't really know what
ownership really mean, not in a practical sense, like he
using his son as a good example. Like I'm thinking, like, bro,
I'm black, Bro, you know what the fuck we Every
black man's plan is to get rich and buy your
mama house. That's it, you know what I mean. That's
a black man's plan universally across America. But you don't
really know how you're gonna do it though, you know

(11:49):
you just like I gotta get rich, I gotta be
a rapper, I gotta be an NBA player, you know
what I'm saying. I gotta do some shit like that
that's just lodged in life, and so I like that
the nigga talk about just a practical He gives you
the tools to wrap your mind around how this shit
actually fucking work. I feel like he was doing it
in this in this interview as well. Like the family

(12:09):
What the fuck is the family office? I don't know
what that is. I ain't never heard of no shit
like that, you know what I mean? Talking about acquisition
and shit. I'm older now, so I know I know
a lot of shit, especially working at the studio. I
learned a lot. But Bro, the nigga is a This
nigga helped make one of the largest movements in hip
hop music or just music ever. Bro, Yeah, the nigga,
not the nigga be goofy sometimes, but he still is

(12:31):
who he is though to me, what do you think? Man?
So the problem with that is the problem with that
is he preaches ownership without the proper context. He preaches
ownership to a fault, and the problem a lot of
people have is, Okay, I want one hundred percent of

(12:52):
something that ain't worth nothing, versus to the jay Z
thing with Barkley's I want one percent of multi billion
dollar corporation. Like looking at jay Z's portfolio, he doesn't
own one hundred percent of most of his investments, I
would think right from what I know, But he's doing
very well for himself. What he's say, one percent of

(13:13):
a billion more than Nigga's ever seen. You know what
I mean, there's still equity, They're still ownership, and then
you could take that equity ownership and parlay that into
something that you want to keep for yourself. This is
my baby, I'm gonna own one hundred percent of it,
right like Dame is leaving that part out. He's also
the postal boy for not knowing how to work well

(13:34):
with other people, like he a lot of her stories
about bro. You know what I mean? You know what
I mean? So part of ownership is also collaboration, and
he just kills the whole spirit of that. He's condescending.
He's somebody that clearly needs therapy, you know what I mean.

(13:55):
And he's somebody that I just don't think his ideals
are what you need as a people right now. Like
the ownership equity thing is one thing, but without the
proper context of it, because the way he's pushing it
is missing a lot, and I just don't.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I don't stand for yesterday that's valid, what you got.
I'm kind of between Wolf and Trump on this one.
I think some of the stuff is some of the
shit is just goofy, like you know what I'm saying.
Some of the stuff is like come on, bro, And
because because to what point you are an OG? You
know what I'm saying, You are an accredited OG in
the space, right and you have did a lot of
positive stuff, right. So I don't want to, you know,

(14:32):
I don't want to shit on you know, all the
shit that you did because you know, I'm not lining
up with certain things that you're saying now. But I
do think to Trum's point, I do think the ownership
conversation and some of the business shit that he says.
I think a lot of it is self serving, right,
because it's a lot about him and what he has
going on and stuff like that. But I do think,

(14:52):
I do think that there is some lessons in that, right,
And I'm not mad at somebody speaking for that side.
Although he might not be the perfect person to carry
the torch, I'm not mad that those conversations are being
had in the community. Right then somebody can think something else, right,
somebody that he can spark a thought in somebody else, right,
and you know, put put some other ideologies out there.

(15:14):
But as far as like with the internet shit and
the suing Cameron and all of the other like all
of that, all of that, like like that type of shit,
I could do without. But as far as, like you know,
the actual the conversation itself, you know, you can go
either way with it.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think Dame is a self serving, egotistical before. I
feel bad for him, because I know what it's like
to lose friends, and I know what it's like to
be the one that everybody thinks is the problem. I

(15:54):
know what it's like to regret some shit that you
can't take back. You know what I'm saying, I know
what I know what it's like to feel like everybody's
eyes are on you for the wrong reason.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
My thing is.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You and you alone are in control of your destiny. Obviously,
things can happen to you. Come on, things can happen
to you, but you gotta be who you are in
those moments, and you know your your character shines through,
and no matter what he does, his character shines through.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He is.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Dame represents to me what happened to us when we
didn't have dads, when we have poor examples of black
masculinity telling us what to do with the hood, the
whole shaking the bottle around chicks and pouring it on chicks,
that whole gin and Juice era, that whole bitches ain't
shit like that. Dame really thought he was. He was

(16:53):
that he acted like that, and I'm very proud.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I know.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I watched a little clip from Joe Budden where they
were like, yo, I'm glad he got understand why certain
people moved the way they moved, basically saying, I see
why Jay got away from him, right, dang, Why you
keep talking about being a boss. Why if you're a
boss own delegate, be a boss. You don't run around

(17:20):
telling everybody that they're not a boss and they're worse off.
And Yo, I bet my house is bigger than your.
You're a child. You are a child. I wouldn't want
to work for somebody like that, Yes, would you want
to work for somebody that's just that corning in the way.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That they beave.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Let's go view for view, Let's go view and then
get embarrassed, get embarrassed everything that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yo, I like that what you said. I remember ten
twelve years ago when Day went up to the Breafist
Club and he talking about being a boss and all that,
And honestly, I'm glad that I feel it. I'm a boss.
I am glad, right, I don't shit on it. I
think you got a great position and what you're doing.
I think it's super lucrative. You probably see more money
sometimes in a month than I do.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think that, Yo.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
You got to take into account people situations and there's
ups and downs. Everybody ain't cut out for that, bro, Yo,
I be fucked up sometimes, you know what I mean.
I mean one time one of my lenses just fell
off the camera.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I could go pay for that the next day two
thousand dollars because I didn't have insurance that on that
lens for whatever reason. Damn, you understand what I'm saying, Yo,
It comes with shit, you preaching shit. Another thing that
I don't like enough. I don't want another thing that
I don't like, the idea that you don't even know.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Trump said this, You got.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
To know how to work a room, and you also
got to know when to recreate yourself. Dang for one,
fuck all that talking about jay Z shit, because I
can always talk about that because I'm a jay Z
fan fucking out from Brooklyn. It is what it is, right,
So I could always do that. I could always do that.
I did that for you, Yes you know what I mean,

(19:06):
But I'm not. What I Am going to do is say, yo, bro,
you are now if I'm fifty almost fifty one, you
are fifty five, fifty six, fifty seven something like that,
and you had a pivotal moment where you just had.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
To go bankrupt, You just had all of these things
that you're.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Talking about whatever, right, and you're now back in a
position at the Breast Breakfast club. They give you this interview.
Why not show up a new nigga. Why not show
up a new nigga that's right. Why be the same
dickhead that nobody wanted to do business.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
With ten years later? Why what does that do for you? Yo?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
To your points, how you actually hurt yourself because I
don't know if you're seen that interview did like three
four million in a couple of days. Don't know if
y'all seen, that's one of their better interviews. So to
your points, how where you had an opportunity where you
could have reintroduced yourself to new business people, new opportunities
to talk to your exact points. I hope you basically
showed your ass and you reminded people.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You reminded people this is you.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Get me somebody and they look bad nice, they got
new hair or some ship.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They might get their body done. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Been a little bit of time since y'all was fucking
with each other. You're like, damn you, I used to
fuck with you, and they on you.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
They on you, Like, WHOA, my god? You know you
got anybody?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You're like, you know you know what I'm saying, Well,
you know he's my number. If you want, you know,
if you want a whole catch up, right, and then
you date them for like one or two times and
they do some dumb ship and you look at them like, oh.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, I remember, I remember, I remember, I remember.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's what he yo.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
If you're such a boss, you don't know how to
make business partnerships, how to read like add value to
your stock. You just so all you're gonna do now,
And I've seen it on the Art of dialogue. You
go back to talking about jay Z, you go back
to talking about Cam.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
All these people is making moves.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You're trying to get back where they at and the
only thing you could do, the only thing you could
do is to talk about them.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Huh. It's confused, loyal to him.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
For all of these just so confusing, bro, and disappointed.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You're going shop on Cam of all people up right now,
somebody that would have helped you, because he's always been
loyal to you and always helped you know, realize that
you put him in a position to win. So I
feel like Cam probably felt like he owed him with
and you're gonna shoot on him trying.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Did you hear what Cam said about said about Dame
as far as the Rockefeller situations and about him selling
the Rockefeller Park. Basically, he was saying that when him
and Mace was going to and he was like, he
was like, yo, we just was doing it because you
are a man, You are o g and we ain't
just want to see you out there, you know what
I'm saying. But he like, you called around over here,

(21:56):
two million, six million over here and you end up
coming back to us.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I forget, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
And it's like, even with something like that, how you
shoot the only the only time you're not shooting yourself
in the foot is when you reloading the gun type ship.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
And it's really sad wolf to me, because we're talking
about a man that's smart. You have people offering you
two million dollars to get you out of this eight
hundred thousand dollars death.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I think that's how much.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
It's a million a million, it was a million dollars.
Mason cam was gonna go five hundred a piece.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, that's what they was offering him. But I think
he's old to state eight hundred thousand. I think I'm
not sure, but I was following that a little bit.
I think he owed the state eight hundred thousands.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
So he needed more than the got it. Even if
they would have get they would have gave him two hundred. Right,
I don't know, but let's just say you're right, right,
say it's a million you got. People offer you one
point five, he said, was trying to offer hoven Big
was trying to off him one point five.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
He didn't want hoven Big to have it, so he said, no,
I don't want y'all to have it. I think young
Boy or Drake or somebody. Yeah, both offered him two mil.
For whatever reason that went through. Mace and Cam offered
them a mill. That felt that he waited too long

(23:09):
for yo talking to Harlem.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Shit to the niggas. Niggas like.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
What happens, The state gets it, the state gets it.
This is good.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
This is the person that you're gonna take business advice.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Like, let's just be real, bro, He's had multiple fucking forecloses,
not forecloses, evictions, bankruptcy, like this is you gonna talk
that ship?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
But let's be real.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I would listen to what Trump said way before I
would listen to what Dame said. And I don't even
know what the Trump was talking about, but I just
know that what Dame said sounded like a bunch of
bullshit that sounds good, and what Trump said made sense.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
He lets his pride and ego get in the way
of his business decisions, like he's a prime example of
what not to do right and then just talking about
his character as a person, him being condescending their success
looks different with different people. You come on on the
Breakfast Club, they're in the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame or i'm sorry, the Radio Hall of Fame, right,

(24:10):
and you're trying to be condescending to them, be letting
to them like y'all got jobs, y'all gotta work here
from six to ten, Like you can't even spend time
with your shit like that. Why would you even talk
like that to people that are clearly very successful in
what they do. And it just shows like his immaturity,
Like you don't understand that there's different levels of success

(24:31):
and success looks different. Not everybody has to be an entrepreneur.
Not everybody's built to be an entreprenew everybody wants to
be an entrepreneur. On the ownership side, everybody should have assets,
but that doesn't mean that everybody should be an entrepreneur.
Some people are better suited to go to work for
somebody and they could be wildly successful at that. There's

(24:53):
nothing like, why would you come on this platform and
preach that they a sucker because they got a superior
you know what I mean? You're right, You got to
know yourself. You know what I mean, Like, it's okay
to work for somebody if that's allowing you to if
that's allowing you to be aligned with your values and
your momoral that's fine.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
If you got peace, Yo, how much are you willing
to sell your peace of mind for how much?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
How much? Just to say that you own some ship? Yo?
Some people it's not yo. If yo, I.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Would not tell people go be an entrepreneur. If that's
not their body, if that's not their hustle, it's got
to be you to do that. Other than that, get
some comfortable shick whatever it makes, and do that and
be cool with that. That's fine, you know what I'm saying.
And Trump you told me that. I remember when I
was like, Yo was talking about my fiance. I was like, Yo,
she don't hustle it like me. He was like, Yo, Bro,

(25:42):
if she hustled like you, then y'all will probably never
be around each other. Plus you need a safe space
at home, right, Like, sometimes it's cool to have a
person around you that's more.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Chill than you, so that, you know, it kind of matches.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Y'all compliment each other exactly what you said, y'all compliment
each other.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And I was like, oh, no, you know what that's real,
And tell me a minute to learn that too, to
be honest, you know what I'm saying. To learn that
all right?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I you know, I did have this one situation that
Dame also brought up that I wanted to speak on,
how much longer can you stay here? I'm good, you're good.
How much longer can you stay the nigga was talking
about Charlemagne. Fuck did Charlemagne being gay?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Ship?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Because Charlomagne? I remember I had a tweet towards Charlamagne
back in the days years ago, and I was like, Yo,
why are you talking about Dick so much? And he
reprobably he replied, he was like, Yo, it's a problem.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I didn't understand. But now I'm talking about Dick all
the time, so it's like, hey, fuck it. But what
I did want to know.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Is Dame asked a question to Laura l Rosa.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
He said to Lauren L. Rosa.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
If ten guys were I'm being you right now, you
heard that, would you want him around?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Because he's gonna run? Y'all are gonna run?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Right? What do y'all think about this statement? What I
thought was crazy about that is it almost sound like
he was saying, like, what you prefer me or somebody?
Would you prefer him or somebody like me? That's the
part that really made it crazy to me. And I
was like, damn, you know, you know, you know what
I'm saying. It's like, because hold on, bro, I wouldn't

(27:29):
want to be with Dame. Bro, I would not know
he's gonna make it worse. We're gonna get killed out here,
I mean beyond beyond. It's like, damn you not, that's
not where you at, brother. Maybe once upon a teeth
come out your mouth. That's not where you're at, brother,
Your teeth come out your mouth. My niggas, like, what
are you talking about? How you figure the fight? Niggas?
You gotta hold your teeth in your hand talking about

(27:50):
and I fuck with Dame. But it's just like you
just look at how I don't know how Dame is,
but you look at him, look at him, how you
hold his body, look at his stature, and it's like, okay,
like we're not dealing with a you know what I mean?
Were not. I kind of disagree though, because I feel
like in that situation, Dame he's a boxer, like he's
a trained boxer. Is yeah, I know that he probably

(28:13):
got hands. Charlemagne, I don't know. I don't know what
his game is, but I know Dame boxes and he's
a trained boxer. And and to Dame's point, he's like, yo,
Charlemagne has ran in the face of you know, four niggas, right,
I never ran in my life. So if you're looking
at the resume, it goes back to like Shorty's when

(28:35):
they talk about protection and show these like street niggas
they feel safe around street niggas. But then it's kind
of like, all right, what type of lifestyle are you
living where there's a good where there's a good chance
that these situations are going to keep having and there's
different levels of protection.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
If ten niggas is trying to fight my girl, I
gotta get her out of there because these niggas is
really mad. Why are ten niggas trying to fight my girl? Yo,
protection in that. Have you ever seen me run from
a fight? Have you ever seen me run from a fight.
I don't know if I would consider myself a street nigga,

(29:16):
but I like, I don't mind fighting. If that's where
we're at, that's where we're at. Like I kind of
like getting it shaken.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You know what I'm saying. You've seen me fight multiple niggas.
Am I right?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
If my girl is under pressure or in danger, my
job as her man is to get her out of danger.
So that's my job to her father who is not here,
no more, to her children that she has to take it.
It's not to prove that I'm about it. It's to
get her to fuck. I will see you niggas becuse
Joah nigga's crazy. But y'ah, niggas, don't smoke something. You're

(29:48):
trying to beat up a girl. So I don't even
know where this is gonna go. But if I keep
in here, we're both getting knocked out and we're both
gonna lose some sort of life function that we might
not blame the same. No more. We might not sniff
the same, no more, might not walk the same.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
No more. Ten niggas, beating on you and your girl.
I gotta get her the fuck out of here. But
guess what, the way of getting her out of here is.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Getting her out and probably fighting on the way out.
So I gotta kick these niggas off my check, right.
It's not like, yo, come on, we got Ryn, but
my main job is to get her away from these
ten rabbit months.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's what the protection is in the situation.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Not go with Dame. My girl with Dame means that
she's in the midst of fighting ten niggas. Because Dame
think that he got boxing skills and he could fight
ten niggas. Nobody could fight ten niggas. Nobody can fight ten.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
You're gonna say something to bring niggas, he'll call ten
more niggas.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
So I took it as I assume that diplomacy is
out of the window. Obviously in that situation, I'd rather
take Charlemagne. If there's some level of diplomacy that could
be had, If fisticuffs is already going down, then I
might rather Dan like, because listen, I got friends that
I don't really good friends of mine that if some
shit go down, they're not the niggas that you went

(31:08):
next to next to you in the fight. So I'm
talking about fisticuffs flying. What's the one, dude, would you
rather a street nigga that got boxing skills? Like violence
is already happening. It's not about diplomacy at this point.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I love you, I understand, but you're also missing that
we're talking about the street nigga that got hands but
also got mouth.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
He's also going to be making these niggas more mad.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I hainte that, but I'm assuming that a diplomatic nigga anyway,
he's gonna make the diplomatic niggas want to fight.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's a hypothetical situation, but I'm assuming that they already
it's already physical at this point. Yeah, I mean I would.
I would love to think that dang Dash would not
be popping off at the mouth when it's ten niggas
ready to lay hands on you and your woman. I
would hope that he's not popping off at that point
because I ain't really much in sight at that point.
You know, if the nigga can box, it's like, okay,
I didn't know that, you know what I mean? He

(31:58):
can he can defend himself, so that definitely helps. But
I get I get where he was. I mean, I
kind of don't at the same time, I want to
say I get where he coming from, because like, you
got a nigga who ran, you want that type of
nigga around you. But it's like, Bro, listen, Charlamagne not
from New York. And one thing I'm gonna tell you,
as a nigga who's not from New York. New York
niggas is built to be very different, Bro, built to

(32:19):
be very different, survived some very different ship. So if
a New York nigga not gonna run, it's like, hey,
I can understand that, you know what I mean, it
might make sense for to run when it's tennis. You're
not gonna beat ten niggas up. You gotta. You can't
just be like a nigga who either them niggas really
bad at fighting or you're really great. You know I mean,
like there's no middle ground. Yeah, there's no middle ground
between that, you know what I mean, because you're not

(32:39):
gonna beat ten niggas. This is the odds is extremely
against your favorite my nigga. Y say, what you're doing
in that situation? Am I fighting ten niggas? Would you
take Deme or Charlamagne in that situation, side is the question.
By my side, I'm not fighting ten niggas. Fight niggas.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Hopefully happened to remember I said it on the SMA.
I said black Men is the only niggas that we're
finding out. How the niggas is always on the table,
It's always on the document like, it's never like it's
one of the things that can possibly happen.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I'm I might gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
I might go with Charlamagne because, to be honest, like
they always say, niggas who talk the most are usually
not the niggas who are gonna, like really put the work.
And now I get you said Dame is a boxer.
I've never seen any athletics from Dame. I don't like,
you know what I'm saying, So I just take Charlemagne

(33:33):
in that case.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
In point to be fair, I ain't saying it in
Charlamagne either, me neither.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
But at least with Charlamagne, I know that, listen, some
money behind Charlamagne, so some shit gonna go.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Down behind that.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
At least I know that that somebody some gotta go
down behind it. With Dame, this ship is a free
This ship is on the free. I'm just getting into
the stuffle off the arow.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I wonder if a woman, And I asked my lady right,
and I was like, be as brutally honest, because I
could be either nigga for you. I could be either
nigga for you. I don't mind, right, I want to
know what your expectations are, right, And she was like,
get me out of there, nigga, let's go to talk
about why are we fighting ten niggas.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Because you can't you know what I'm saying, Because even if.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Only five niggas can punch on me at one time,
So what the other five niggas doing. If I'm trying
to fight these five niggas, they.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Fucking her up. They fucking her up. I can't protect
her if I'm sitting in there just trying to sweep.
That's what I was thinking. We've been in scenarios before
when we got jumped or had to fight multiple niggas.
It's not always an option. If niggas start hopping on you,
you gotta fight. So I'm saying, if there's no option,
are you going to pick the street nigga that can
fight or the diplomatic nigga that has a history running.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
The options wouldn't present that's had a history because there's
four niggas trying to jump into five in the morning.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Way to work. I'm just saying, you know, hyper we
could be super hypothetical. It's a good conversation, and I
think what Damons alluding to is like, hypothetically, do you
want the street nigga or do you want the nigga
that has street nigga that never ran before? I get
what he was saying versus the dude that has a
history of running street nigga that could literally box and

(35:19):
has never ran, versus somebody that we don't know what
his skills is, his hands skills like, and he has
a history of running. And in that situation, it's not
an option you fighting, Like when do you get when
is that option? When you're getting jumped? Like, you know
what I mean, I'm gonna go damn, I'm gonna go dame,
because like you know, one thing about war, war is
a mental game, you know what I mean. So it's

(35:40):
like even whatever he can't do physically, as long as
his head in the right space, I take that though,
you know what I mean. It just helped. Knowing a
nigga knows some ship. You know, he got wisdom from
some ship. He got instincts from some ship. That's helpful.
That's helpful. Like, maybe you're not the muscle in this situation,
but what can we take with what you got? And
one thing for Shaw, we know a nigga the ran

(36:01):
and another nigga then been a part of some I mean,
it's a well documented lifestyle. He's been a part of it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
So my only thing is that he's going to be
talking mad ship. He's gonna be talking trying to run.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Up on me a bus. You really think he's gonna
be doing it? Who's paying you to do this? Them? Double?
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Another thing that's happened in hip hop news of late,
Cardi B just dropped her second album Great while Pregnant,
Very Good with a new nigga's baby.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
The internet has drawn a lot of criticism. I actually
saw Crystals from the Red getting dragged from her opinion
on it. I don't know if y'all want to hear that.
But what do you think about the album? Let's start there.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It was good, bro. I'm to put her on the lyrics.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I can call it right now, say and I exchange
jabs initially before he heard it, and I was I
was actually on on wolf side. I was like, Yo,
it's a solid project to me. Solid project to me.
I mean it's not the first one, but I don't
think it's suffering from the sophomore JINX.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yesterday you listened, what do you think I listened? Yeah,
I did listen to it. I thought it was solid.
I thought it was solid. Maybe a little too long,
but you know, I understand it.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Because it's been so long. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it
was solid for me.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
And actually, as I'm listening to some of the records,
I was actually a little more confused after the album,
confuseding what I was. I'm confused as to why some
of these joints hadn't come out before. H Honestly, Like,
when I'm listening to the music, it's like, oh, you
got the music. It's not it's not. I don't think
it's a lack of not happening. You know, that was

(37:45):
the question, right, Can she produce the music? Can she
make the music at the clip?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Right?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
But I'm listening to the records and I'm like Oh no,
you got the record, so you know what I'm saying,
like and maybe and maybe I think.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Wolf just put his hands to his head it. Oh
my god. So first of all, I just feel bad
for offset, and I know how the women are gonna be, like,
why the fuck are you gonna feel bad for that nigga?
He cheated on a pregnant woman. I get that. I
think he get him what he deserved. But let me
just read some of these lyrics for y'all. Nigga was
washing dishes last night. I had to stop Nigga. I
had to stoles on FaceTime with my girl. I was like, yo,

(38:18):
she said, what a fun niggas that. I'm trying to
find him outside. I've been cuffed up too long. Let
me remind you. Let's go wrong for wrong. Let's go
lick for lick. If I can handle that, let me
see if you can handle this? Do you know? How
to do? You do you? How you did me? Bet
we won't speak again. Favorite player from your favorite team?
He and my DM. I'm so small and tiny, he's

(38:39):
so big and tall. I let him dunk in this
pussy like he dunked the ball. Oh my god, my god,
he like r PR said, Bro. R PR said, Bro,
this is when the woman's fed up, broll.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Like a woman's going And this is exactly why that's
a funeral. Just answered yesterday's question. Yesterday said, why did
it take so long? Because Carti is obsessed with her
get back.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
To me.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
She's obsessed with her get back to me. Carti was
suffering from and I don't know her at all. I
have zero connections to her, so just just a fans perspective.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
By the way, I love love love CARTI love love
love Carti.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I don't care if it was as a dancer, as
an Instagram influencer, as a fucking artist, as a fashion icon,
as a mother personality. I don't I love her boobs
ariolas I love her. I love Carti like I love
Carti the way I don't like the other one, because

(40:00):
I love the other one's raps, but I just don't
like anything about her, like as a person, I don't
like anything about her, but I love Cardi. But what
I will say is I pay attention to Carty. Is
that I feel like the beef with the other one
destroy her confidence. I feel like that beef being attacked
by that other one's fan base, splitting up her relationships

(40:21):
in the game, then getting with a person who broke
her down, offset broke her down as far as the
rest of the confidence that she had when she thought
that she had something special and somebody that valued her.
I feel like he broke her to fuck down.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
In that.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I have been in situations me personally where I can
empathize or relate to not feeling confident enough to be
yourself anymore, just lose yourself, right, And so I can
see the label pushing her to be productive, and.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
She just don't got it. I just don't. I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I'm not secure, I don't feel it right. We can
I can say that based off of the amount of rants,
the amount of fights with lower level stripper bitches, and
the bullshit that she just kept.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
That is your presence. That's who you are. Now.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
You're just out here, just fighting for fucking country, just
to be yourself again, and you're getting attacked from everywhere,
and you're just in your house, this million dollar house,
holding yourself in a fucking closet because you scared to
come outside. You scared every time I come outside. You

(41:43):
got a million fucking what's that girl's people's uh the
Minagos barbs, barbs.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
They on your ass.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
They breaking down everything about you. Now you got Offset. Yeah,
And I said this in the group chat the other
day and y'all didn't like it. I said, I believe
she's pregnant because of Offset, break that down. I believe
that get back has become her main thing.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Mm hmm. I think that.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I think, first of all, I think me personally from
what I generally, Hispanic girls love hard, Hispanic people love hard.
It's a revenge baby. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, for sure, it's
a revenge baby. It's something that she needed. She felt
she needed to erase the stench of Offset from her
also to show him like you're not just gonna be.

(42:35):
You destroyed me, nigga. You destroyed me nigga. And guess what,
this niggas resurrected my ship. This niggas making me feel
like a queen again. Fuck fuck you, nigga. This the
new nigga. She's talking about how she want them babies
to look just like her new nigga. She don't fuck
you and everything about you. I believe that she passionately

(42:56):
hates Offset for real and and what he did to her,
and she's moving based off of that feeling.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Yes, I hear that, but I do think that at
a point you gotta move for yourself, right of course,
I believe that's you know what I'm saying. I feel like, well,
we're not. I understand that, you know what I'm saying.
I do understand that, But I do think that there
is something to say, like, but I don't know heard

(43:24):
offset divorced yet. I don't know if that's through. I'm
not you know what I'm saying. So I just think
it's it's a lot, bro. I think it's a lot,
especially when you're bringing kids into a situation. And again
I don't I'm not. I don't listen. I don't want
to be that guy. I don't want to hate. But
you know, you didn't get you know what I'm saying.
You didn't get Russell Wilson two point oh right, you

(43:45):
know what I'm saying. So when we're talking about her,
you get what I'm saying, Like I don't. I don't,
like I said, I don't want to. Do you think
Cardi could be with a Russell Wilson, No, that's not
what I'm saying is do I I would want her
to be with somebody who's not going to recreate the
same ship. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying
right now.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's not the flex she really think it is.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah, because if it's about what you're saying, this niggas
making me feel this way, well, listen, offset on half
his win again in due time. If this is the
metric that we're going off, you see what I'm saying.
So that's why I'm saying, like, I don't know if
that's the play, it might be the like to your
point that right now, I'm upset. I want to get
over this. I want to get through this right now,

(44:26):
but I think long term. And then also, like I
told you in the group chat, I'm like, yo, bro,
this is now will be the second album that she's
just only put out two albums, and that means every
album that she's put out she's been pregnant for, she's
had to be pregnant on tour. She's you get what
I'm saying, that's.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
A lucky charm baby in the stomach. It's a lucky
charm brow Listen, it's not working against us. She's out
here looking at she's grinding, she's torking. Album is doing numbers,
massive numbers. I mean the album sales is a little
manipulated based off wopping whatever the other song was, but
that that she threw on the album. But Nigga, it's
six tess And you was telling me about the label

(45:02):
putting under pressure. I don't think that the label is
happy what the numbers is doing.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
What do you think a baby the baby Well, like
I said, that's you know, that's her own personal choice's
But I think I think, like I told you before,
she's gonna have to work. And Trump, I think you
could I'm sorry, you could have tested this too, Trump, like,
you know, she's gonna have to work going forward. Right,
all of the people that she had in the building,
it's not the same people, So she doesn't have the
cachet with the building just to just you know, just

(45:27):
kind of do whatever. Like it's no, it's really performance
based from here on out.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Let's be honest as men, right, and that is that
does not mean that you have to think any certain way,
but it's just men in here, just men in here, right.
We have a different experience in life. We look at
women differently than they look at themselves. There's social constructs whatever,
whatever do y'all think it's a good look. Fuck it

(45:55):
for her to be pregnant by Stefan Diggs when there
are multiple babies also in the public that in other
women's stomach right now. No, she has a one year
old baby herself. No, she just she's not even fully
divorced from her let's and just give me your honest,

(46:17):
honest opinions, and it can be in support of it.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
It's not the flex that she think. It is like
as of right now, like the lyrics scathing, you know
what I mean? And I hate that for offset and
she getting she like she get in the battle. Off
she went in the battle right now, but I don't
know if she gonna win the war because truth be told,
it's like you having a child. How well do you
know this man? For real? You know what I mean? Like,
how I don't know nothing about this nigga other then

(46:41):
he's a professional athlete, but like, where's his morals, where's
his values? What's his integrity? Really hidden? Like and he
got other children that he han't simultaneously at the same time,
so well known sniper a well known sniper. So do
you realize what you just put yourself into. Life is
already stressful enough with your one child, with the situation
you got with your child's father. Now you're moving into

(47:02):
another situation. I don't know if you're ready for that,
you know what I mean. Although you can have all
the money in the world, you know what I mean,
Like them babies need need that attention, and you're gonna
you can't shield yourself from certain shit that's gonna come
with your association with this new nigga, you get what
I'm saying. So I don't think it's the flex that
she think it is, because you know the baby is innocent,
but you don't. You don't know this man, you know

(47:22):
what I mean. And like the idea of being tethered
to somebody that you probably don't even actually love or
like for the rest of your life. That kind of sucks,
My nigga, that sucks, And you're willingly doing that all
to get revenge, just like get revenge in a better way,
you know what I mean. So she really living in
the moment. She's gonna grow out of this when the
baby's like ten or five or something or three, or

(47:42):
two and realize, like, you know, this everybody's favorite thing
in the world to say, I don't regret my kid.
But it again, everybody say that I don't regret my kid.
If I can keep the I keep the kid the same.
They just changed the parent. I don't know. Do y'all
think she purposely got pregnant. I think she perposally kept it.
I think it's plausible that it was an accident, but

(48:04):
she's trying to put a spin on it. What is
an accident meaning like I wasn't planning on laying it
down with somebody. You wasn't planning on doing what. I
wasn't planning on having a baby at this point in
my life. She kept it through. Yeah, I mean not
everybody is marketing. I don't think Cardi B respectful. I
don't think Cardi B has strong opinions against abortion rights

(48:25):
or anything like that, you know what I mean. I
think if she wanted to get rid of that baby,
she would. You're cutting everything off else off your body,
all right. I would say this.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I want to say this, Yes you have something, you know,
to just answer the question.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
I don't want to say I don't want to say this,
but based off everything, and this was my own personal opinion,
just based of everything, how I'm looking at it, and
just like even the leading up to it, right because
remember like a couple of months ago where we've seen her,
We was like, hey, kind of look a little strange.
You're pregnant. Remember she came online and cursed everybody out
of your stupid motherfuckers. Don't remember she did the whole

(49:00):
only to come with it in the rollout g king.
So to me, it's just it just gives rollout. It's
giving promotion, it's it's giving if I have it at
this time, the label can't really press me to do
too much. You get what I'm saying. And I'm also
going to gain favor, you know what I'm saying. It's
her making the best of us.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, making the best opinion that I hate it. Listen,
that's my opinion, bro.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
That's why I and the idea that she's having the
baby just so that the label would leave her alone.
Like what, I'm not having a baby because she's a
nasty freak Hispanic chick. That's like coming me, But it
didn't without the connotention of get me pregnant. It's just
like coming me and oh shit, I'm pregnant. Damn, I
ain't really mean it when I said coming me, I

(49:46):
didn't mean for you to get me pregnant.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
That's why we act like women don't keep babies out
of spike though, Like why we acting like that's that?
Ain't no nigga, that's all that niggas do that. To
your point, keep a baby out of spite to who
the other nigga? Yeah? Why were I canna? This is
a multi faceted move right here. Bro.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
This is not a move on one front. This is
a fuck you the offset. This is a keep these
niggas at bay. This is a worst case scenario. This
nigga got some chips.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I don't know. I don't know offset situation.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
But like I told, like I said to you in
the chat, if just being honest, if we had to
say who chips do we depend on more? Stephan Diggs
an offset into the future, I mean, I think you
gotta be honest here.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'll tell you what. She's gonna have to drop an
album again. Hear what I'm saying. You gonna have to
do that with one nigga. Now she got two niggas.
She ain't dropping around again that plays sports daddy. It's
a whole cultures like that, don't. She didn't need it.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I honestly think she's just a woman that's moving off
of sheer emotion.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Emotion. I think most of this is just sheer emotion. Yes,
and Wolf.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I think that this is a woman that is just
literally like everything. I feel great right now. I haven't
felt great in years. How long was y'all said dragging her?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Three four years? I think it was more than that
five years.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But nigga, I remember the cheat, the first cheat. Then
he comes on stage and I'm sorry with the flowers
and they get back to this was a rolling cheat.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Did he proposed to her on stage?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
The proposal came after that. But then also he helped
her get out her deal, so you know what I'm saying.
So there was you know, they was exchanging you know,
niceties until like like I said, when once she got
up and then you know, the negos kind of tank.
Then it's just like she's just kind of bosting her
ass and then it's like, hold up, nigga, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Years of being publicly humiliated on the years and the
prime of your life. And you also got an most
famous op, more famous op. Right, that's that slam you
with a with a fan base that's the worst in
the world, slamming you. And then your nigga is fucking

(52:07):
bitches that don't fuck with you, doing wild corny shit,
talking crazy about you, getting caught with texting chicks on
the screen and when you come in here got your
phone like yo, it was just too much with the nigga.
So now she get with this other nigga that all
the women want, all the women want this nigga, and
he is showing you the love that you.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Have felt you haven't had in so long. Let me
heal you. You feel me, Yes, heal you.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Just hard eyes, Babs Bunny, hard eyes, part pounding out
your chest.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Come in me. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I don't care what happens coming me.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
You know you know what I'm saying. And this is
where we are. Howard is carding about thirty I don't know,
thirty four. Maybe there a certain age. I think you're
a little too grown to be having emotions like that.
I totally totally agree. Where it's like my life is
just come in me, like I don't know, I know
you've got emotions, but you're still an adult though, you

(53:05):
know what I mean, And I expect you to conduct
yourself in a certain kind of way. But when you
got money, I don't know, you know what I mean.
Maybe money allow you to be a child again and
you get to do crazy shit like that, like just
coming me, even though I don't really know you like that.
I don't know if you'll be a great father. Maybe,
But I don't know this nigga though, So maybe she
knows something about this nigga that make him qualified, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, they already got online and asked her questions about
the other kid, and she's like, well that's how baby daddy.
Now we're gonna figure it out type shit. And I'm
just like, I hate this for her, Like the fact
that you even got to speak about shit like this
is like, come.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
On, absolutely disgusting. Give me another half and we go
out here. Five thirty, y'all will walk out the door,
all right, niggas, hYP y'all see Cam and Adrian Bruno.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Oh yeah, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I've watched this a million times, but I'd really like
to play it again, just for the people who haven't.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, I love how I handle that. Yep, let's see,
so waste it.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Let me give you a little backstory to the people
that don't know if you aren't on social media. There's
a famous rapper from Harlem, very connected to Dame Dash
called Cameron.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Haven't always been a fan of his.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Antics either, also because I'm a jay Z fan and
he was a op of jay Z for a long time.
But hey, I'm mature and I'm wanting to make things past.
He has a show called It Is What It Is
with Mace, another Harlem rapper, and they invited a boxer.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Or it used to be.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Boxer or something, Adrian Broner up to the show. During
the show, Adrian Broner was ogling ogling their co host,
who is Treasurer Wilson.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
She's a very good looking woman.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
And so I'm gonna play out some of the audio
of what happened as Cam asked Adrian and Bruna to
leave the studio based off his creepy behavior.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
All right, turn this out, I mean all right, I can't.
I mean all right, you told me to stop my
bad bro, You're all right, Hey, We're gonna have to
ask you to go my nigga. I mean I have
to actual to go. Man. I'm gonna pay you for

(55:32):
your time from ben I wish I had more. I
appreciate you, but I'm not love you, my nigga. I'm
not doing it again. Yeah no, Ma, Man, I can't
ask you the first time. I don't have no problems
with you. I'm gonna pay you for your time. But
you can't validate bro, I told you that I'm not.
I'm not. I told you Nigga's boyfriend. He you know

(55:55):
my no, no, but I appreciate your time. It's me.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
It's me.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
If you want to wait for us on the side,
you could, but I'm not gonna see on a non
value of time either. That's where he clicked the money.
It sounded like like about the three games. That's why
I love you, Cam. I counted you a good nigga man.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
So yeah, he counted the money and basically UH kicked
him out of the studio. Yeah, I love a style.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
You love your style. Cam love it the way he
did that. I think it's important to for the people
that are n't familiar with the show. Treasure Wilson is
now young. She's like twenty two to twenty three years old.
Cam is like the same age as her pops, you
know what I mean. So he has that big brother
father figure type of relationship, more of a big brother

(56:55):
type of relationship with her, you know what I mean.
So like you got a little sister relationship with somebody,
you can't have somebody on the show violating in that
type of way, you know what I mean. Repeatedly too.
He wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
It was it was him just not stopping, you know
what I'm saying. It was constantly through the episode. Constantly,
you know, like Cam said, he had to ask some
multiple times to stop. And he's also said that her
boyfriend is in the back right, so you know at
that point, anything past that is.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Kind of disrespect. So I think Cam did the right thing.
And like we just said in the comments, he was
drunk as fuck. You could tell this niggas on something
for Adrian Brown was on. So was like, this ain't
gonna end, Like this ain't gonna be a good interview
in any fuck away. It's not like like you said, yo,
I said it multiple times for you to chill. He's

(57:41):
not even in the right state of mind to to
to take that in and to move accordingly in the
right way. He's just out of his mind right now.
Just packed this nigger up and get him out of here. Yeah,
I think he handled it the right way, bro. You know,
he tried to act like he was gonna put hands
on the nig. He ain't threatening him physically. I mean,

(58:02):
he did it in the in the most classy way possible.
He was like, listen, I asked you several times. Now
you know what I mean. I'm not gonna ask you again.
So how about this, Like we're gonna keep it clean,
conversate you for your time, so you feel like you're
not getting finessed or you know you don't. You don't
have a reason to try to get Rah Rah, you
know what I mean. But at the end of the day,
I'm going I'm not going to allow you to make
this woman in my presence feel uncomfortable practice, and as

(58:24):
a man, that's the most manly shit you can do,
you know what I mean, Like we and your and
your business and your faction. If that woman here, she
with me, you know what I mean, he probably know
her father or no. The boyfriend was right there, so
he can't defend himself, you know, what I mean. And
then it's like, you don't want a man to feel
compelled to show his ass, to try to defend his

(58:45):
pride in his girl's honors, Like, well, let me get
on the set there and let this nigga. The first
of all, this nigga is a professional boxer, you get
what I'm saying. So realistically, even on a bad day,
he's still dangerous, you know what I mean, he still
got registered hands. So Cam did the best thing possible.
It's like, you know what, I'm gonna make sure that
I'm gonna do this in a way where this nigga
don't feel like he got to put hands on nobody,

(59:06):
and I'm gonna do it in a way where the
boyfriend don't feel like he just being shitt at honest, like, nigga,
remove yourself from the set. I'm gonna compensate you. And
that's what it's gonna be. And he was say, if
you want to wait outside, you can. But he defended
her honor, and I think that was a great example
of that because we need we need examples of women
feeling safe, you know, especially in that dynamic where she

(59:26):
is the young girl and you got an older man
who's not her father, not her not by blood, her father,
her brother, her uncle, or nothing, but he assuming role
of is she here, then she good? And even though
her boyfriend is here, we both here to make sure
that she feels safe, you know what I mean. And
that's what men should be doing, you know, just because
somebody you're not just because you're not having sex with
a girl, Just because a girl don't share the same

(59:47):
blood as you, don't mean she not yours to look after,
you know. And I think he did a great job
by doing that.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
My thing is this rolls into and the reason I
brought this up is because this rolls into the protect
black women.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, definitely. Is this what you you think is an
example of that? Absolutely? Absolutely, it's a top agree. I
think it's a top tier example because it shows how protection,
what people normally think of it is protection. Is somebody
is cam stepping up into into Andrey Agent Bruner's face

(01:00:22):
and want to throw hands with him. Oh, I'm protecting
Treasure Wilson. I'm gonna throw hands with this nigga. But
then that just leads to an unnecessary physical confrontation and
everybody in the room could be a danger. He could
pull out a pistol. The nigga clearly drunk, like you
know what I mean. So I think this is a
classic example of protection is not always physical, and it

(01:00:45):
usually isn't physical.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
It's the same nigga that said, you want to nigga
to fight ten niggas for your chick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
You the same nigga that just said that. I said,
if he's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Protecting her, was getting her out of there, and you
was like, oh, you gotta you gotta know. Rather than
nigga that got boxing skills, I said, rather than a
nigga that was to be more it emblematic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
If there was no room for diplomacy, I'm running. I
was very clear on it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Okay, fine, yesterday you too, you also think this is
protect black women.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I think it's protect black women, not just for what
Trump said, but also uh, policing men, policing men in
front of in public. Yes, I think that that's one
of the biggest ways to protect black women is the
policing of men, policing men in the public eye right,
with class, with decency, right and also showing that like
Trump said, or like you said as well, wolf Like,

(01:01:34):
it doesn't have to be physical, but it can be checked.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
So I feel like mostly what we hear from women
is as far as them feeling protected, is them feeling
like as men not holding other men accountable, men not
speaking up in real time when the cameras is on, when.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
The flights is on.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
You know what I'm saying, It's like it's done on
the quiet, on the sneak on the kind of whisper.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
In your ear type shit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
So I think that type of accountability clipped up live
on the show Everything Rolling. I think that's that's how
you start to get to to protect black women when
we can have those those instances like that I got.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I got an episode on my podcast Make Women Feel
Safe Again, and I went down a list of things
you can do, and one of the things I was
saying is like, YO, check shit when you see it
as a man. And that don't mean I literally sevebeate him.
That don't mean you gotta get run in front of
a moving card on me, you gotta get hit with bullets,
you know what I mean. But it's like the first
step of the ladder don't gotta be violence. And I
feel like that's he said elite. I really do think
it's e leite because most of the time as a man,

(01:02:32):
the boyfriend, if she twenty two, to me, is the
boyfriend's younger too, right, So he might think like, hold on,
I gotta even though he know he gonna get his ass. Well,
he might feel like he gotta do that. Cam is like,
I'm older than you. Season let me delegate this situation.
You know what I mean. There's a way this can
be done. Violence don't got to be the first step. Well,
most men we feel instinctively like violence gott to be
the first step, right, because this nigga treated me like

(01:02:53):
I'm a bitch, I gotta do something about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
My pushback and something that that having thought through, So
I just wanted to which I got to say, is
I remember times back in the day on Twitter when
I would talk about something and they would say, would
you so I would have an appy stance, say to

(01:03:17):
Oppy stands to women, right, oppy stance to women, And
they would say, would you feel the same way if
that was your daughter? And I would say that's different,
that's my daughter, right, or that's different. I have a
relation with this person. To me, does that not mirror
this situation? Like, yeah, it's protect black women but it's

(01:03:39):
only because you got a relationship to her. Would you
feel that way if this wasn't somebody you had a
relationship to, would this be a way that you would
just carry yourself normally? Were talking about can this nigga
big on bitch suck my dick, big on that big
on disrespecting women, no care, no cause whatsoever. So now

(01:03:59):
when you do this for this person, do y'all we
have to say, oh nah, yeah, But yeah, you're doing
it because you know her, You're doing it because you
have a You're you humanize this one, it still protects
whereas you dehumanize the other ones, you still protection it is,
I suppose so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
And it's like context is everything. Like I don't know
the context behind why he was wilding out on them
other women in that way, but like protection is protection. Also,
you gotta consider this nigga is dangerous. This nigga, Agrian
Broner is a dangerous man. He could that nigga could
come into this room right now and knock all of
us out very quickly. It's not gonna take him long.
He might not the first punch might not do it,

(01:04:38):
but by the third or fourth you can guarantee he
gonna have you feeling your mortality in the ridge. Get
through here, huh, y'all all safe in here? No no, no,
I hear you, but I'm just no, no, no, no, no,
no listen, I hear you, but you get what I'm
saying though, Like there's things he can do with his
hands because he didn't put in the work to do
that though. So I also feel like that's another reason
why we can get on the macho ship all we want.

(01:05:00):
But at the end of the day, the man is
who he is independently from what I think I'm gonna
do to his you know what I mean. So I
got to assess the situation like that. So what's the efficiency?
Is about efficiency? What's the easiest way out of this situation?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
My real point is, does it matter if you treat
the women around you differently than you treat the women like, say,
y'all remember or you would see a woman getting violated
in the street and they'd be like, the niggas around
her didn't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Does it? Does it matter if it depends on the
cont It depends on the context of the situation. There
are women that I've seen being violated that I've protected,
and there's women I've seen and being violated. I didn't
do nothing about it, and why twice? One because I didn't.
I didn't. I needed to fully understand the situation, you
know what I mean. One it was she was a

(01:05:51):
she was a fiend getting beat up by a nigga
who was selling her drugs. You get what I'm saying.
That situation, I had a natural inclination to want to
do something, but I had to assess what was going on.
I had to assess what was gonna happen to me,
you get what I'm saying. Another situation, it was a
pimp beating this whole you know what I mean. And
then I had to assess that situation too because I
seen her them a couple of days later, she was
right with that nigga, you know what I'm saying. And

(01:06:12):
there was other situations where I knew right there in
that moment, like no, I need to protect her. I
know a lot of people not gonna understand that level
of compartmentalizing, but when you grow up a certain kind
of way, it could be life and death for you.
So with Cam, it's like, I need to understand the
context why he was dogging a short. Yeah, I gotta
understand the context, because the context matters. Like I said,
I've seen two women get their ass beat in front

(01:06:33):
of me, and that wasn't the choice. I didn't make
that choice to step in, and I don't think that
was the wrong choice. I might not be here if
I would have did that. To your point, like domestic
violence shit like that, you might you might try to
step in, and to your point, they're gonna be back
together the next day. They've seen it, and now you
the one in jail or you knowshed. Yeah, I've seen

(01:06:55):
her and she you went to protect her, and she
with the nigga still. So it's like those situations I've
been I ain't seen somebody getting beat up, but I've
seen the potential for that. And I might say something
I've worked by a back, Yo, y'all should chill police.
I might lie be like yo, police right down the
block something just to get him to ease up. But
I'm not going to insert myself in that situation if

(01:07:17):
it looks domestic. I have a relationship, even a pimp hole,
that's a relationship relationship. So I definitely feel you on
that and in this situation. It's also different because it's like,
this is Cam's space. He's like, Yo, anybody that's in
my space, any woman that's in my space, I'm protecting.
This is my podcast, is my studio. I pay for

(01:07:38):
all of this shit. I invited, I hired you, I
invited you. I'm protecting my space. Like any man should
should have some type of order in his space and
be like, now we're not gonna let that fly not here.
You know what I mean. So it's different, and it's
and to to who's point, it's different the relationship he
has been treasured Wilson like, that's little sis child. I

(01:08:00):
have an obligation to her dad. I know her dad.
I have an obligation to her family. Like I can't
just let niggas come in here and talk to her
which way came, and she gonna feel first of all,
this nigga is super famous Adrian Bruner, he could be intimidating.
He might not think he is, but it's like, you
don't know what she like. One thing a woman gonna do,
she don't smile it off the whole time. She could

(01:08:21):
feel very unconsortaiated. She don't know what to do against
this powerful man. He powerful in so many ways. She
don't know. She's like she probably thinking, like I'm so.
Women shouldn't have to always advocate for themselves, my nigga,
They shouldn't, bro, because they're not us, bro. Theyre not
built for certain shit. Though they rose to the occasion
very often, especially in our culture, it's not they shouldn't
have to though, you know what I mean, he did
the right thing, and if he didn't do it, I

(01:08:42):
wish the boyfriend should have said something then, you know
what I mean, But somebody should. And I said, that's
what it means to be a man. Sometimes you got
to put your life on the line in risky situations
that you don't know how you're gonna faire on the outcome,
you know what I mean. But if that was if
that was me in that situation, and it could have
been Mayweather himself, could have been Terrence Crawford to some nigga,
I gotta speak, bro, I got to him, you know
what I'm saying. So somebody gotta advocate. I ain't saying

(01:09:03):
they got to get to violence. Them niggas hit you
one time. You be going though, I'm gone, But that's
but that but that's what it means to be hit me.
I wish one of your niggas is there to count.
Who did that nigga boxing? What knocked me out? I
know that, I know you. I was ready.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
I'm still I'm about to go home. I'm still ready.
My nigga, nigga, let you up that I was drunk
and drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Why you ain't smiling? You know? He said, why smiling?

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Because he knows that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Because it's like one of them things. It's like dangn
I got so many regrets of that night, you know
what I mean? Ever since then started moving differently because
it's one of those situations where we was all out,
we was all fucking drunk. He was in Vegas, you
know what I mean. He's called niggas on the West.
And then and when we got back to the Telly,
I remember doing a head count and Tyhoe wasn't there

(01:10:06):
so many lessons from that night, one and one. Don't
get too drunk. I'm not getting especially when I'm away
from homes of the type of nigga. You're a cool,
calm reserve, like you always gotta be in control of
what's going on in the world. Ship pops off when
you fall away from home. I can never be drunk
out of my mind anywhere. Right. The other thing is

(01:10:27):
I assume that was okay because I'm like, oh, Tahoe
found a shorty probably somewhere. Yeah, you know what I mean.
But it's like, nah, we gotta share each other's locations,
we gotta check in, we gotta call niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
You good. If you go with there with somebody, you
gotta leave with the same person, or at least check
off some types of checks and balances, you know what
I mean. So that's why I learned from that night, man,
because that shit, maybe all of us feel horrible, like yo,
we was all together and we left this nigga, so
he was gone. You was gone till the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
I was in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
We know where he was, and this nigga just pops up,
went the hospital bracelet so and we like no on vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Bro, And I was on parole. I had to ask
my parole offic if I could leave I come back fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Up or shit was crazy. But Zad was with, We
was with. Zad got us on the spot. He got
us in the club that night because of me. So
that's the other thing. When we left, we didn't think
he was in danger. He's with niggas. He's drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Bro. I asked the nigga if he I think. I
asked him if he shaved off his eyebrows on purpose.
And that's the last thing I remember. I remember he
stood up, and remember I stood up, and then I
seen a bunch of niggas stand up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
And then I woke up chained to the hospital. You
ain't even feeling for real? Nah, well, ship wants to
whatever they put up my ship?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, man, Uh, I woke up chain to the hospital bed,
like uh strapped. The nurse come over, She's like, all
you up now. We had to strap you because you
kept fighting us every time you woke up. So at
least I knew I was scrapping. At least I knew
I was scrapping. You got you got stories, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I would love to see you do like a series
one day where you just just give a whole part
about like a day in one of your lives. That's
story worthy. I think that would be mad interesting because
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yeah, I'll trying to chase that nigga down for years
after that trying to get fired. I kept telling I
want five minutes. I want five minutes. Give me five Yeah,
just give me five min.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
No, stop a lot. No, the devil is a lie. Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Thank y'all for coming out to so shameless man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
It's been a great day. Wolf. Please tell them to
find you what you got going on? Shock by the story? Yeah? Absolutely, Yo.
My name is Wolf Taylor. I have the halfway Year podcast.
I called it halfway up because you never finished rising.
I've covered things such as make women feel safe again,
how to get over feeling lonely, extend your parents grace.
I'm actually so stunned by the story for it threw

(01:12:55):
me off. Yeah, but it's a self development podcast, man.
I just try to talk about things that people are
actually fucking going through, you know what I mean. So
there's a great chance I've covered something that that will
resonate with you. So I would love your support. Please
come through. If you connected with me through this podcast,
let me know. Send me a DM, leave it a
rating and review to this podcast. Please. You know, we

(01:13:15):
need all the support we can get. Share a clip,
leave a comment, do something that that the support means
a lot to us. This podcast is Ann come on
your show. Yeah, I would love to come on your show. Yesterday,
I guess this niggas a genius, y'all. Like, did y'all
hear the way he was talking today?

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Both one of my one of my face You.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
See what I'm saying, Like, Bro, you are a genius.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
I love talking to you, and hopefully you'll come back. Hopefully,
because yeah, we've been trying to get him. I'm trying
to get better man over here, over here, trying to
get him. And I walked up and Sea Wolf. I
was like, we're about to have some conversations. This is
great content.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
I got to go with.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
My sons is calling me to take me to go
get their haircut for my seven o'clock YO. So shameless,
that's what it is. We'll see next week. Thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
Bro

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