Whose City Is This? Feat The Angie Lolo

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so soames.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, If you
know what I'm saying, social us so shameless, So so sous.
If you know what I'm saying, so shameless. If you

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know what I'm saying, so shameless. If you know what
I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So everybody on devices and social build up of socializing
has changed over time, and that's why everybody is depressed.
They have anxiety, they don't know how to speak to people.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Now that we're here, we can't do nothing about it.
It's it's proper to adjust, right, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Not adjusting to my kid being ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's about to be worse when we're about to transition
into everything being AI. You was born in yah, yeah,
this is no ninety eight, born in, born in the Caribbean,
raised here though, so like I have a huge like
it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I feel like everybody born after ninety five, y'all, y'all
not I up here. It's okay, but it's not your
I feel like I feel like the evolution of the
world you just said. I'm cool with that, y'all do
y'all things.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I don't think y'all because of the state of the
world that we're in now. I don't think y'all because
y'all don't want to adjust adjust to what to society?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
This society? You want me to adjust to this?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I don't think you have a choice whether I think,
whether whether you're adjusting, whether you you're you're intentionally adjusting,
or not you're going to adjust.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, I'm ready, so we plotted already already. I'm a
fan of the show. I've really watched the ship, like
I already pay attention.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
I want to get the head point. I want to
make sure but.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
She's always chatting.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
I like, why butter shatness?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It makes sense because I'm saying that's all that matters. Though,
all that matters is that the person that's speaking makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
There's yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
There's also great areas in the conversations where I don't
feel like everything is as literal as it comes.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because you don't understand that things are literally literally Stop
now I'm about I'm about to be on your as
trying to get somebody. Somebody ten years younger than me
can't tell me a lot of ship that's the problem
I to y'all, I tort y'all rappers is like that.
I tort y'all though, like I like, I taught kids
your age is cool, Like were good straight shot?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Are you catching yo? The man said, you be chatting
and they don't be at your neck?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
What I don't be in here yelling the vein will
be popping out my head and ship dud.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But at the same time, like, however, she listen what
I do?

Speaker 6 (02:59):
You're beginning ship on?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Basically she says she'd be washing us. That's what he said.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
She'd be cooking, cooking somebod me, washing me.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
She washed you before the show. You know, I had
to kick this nigg out there after the studio this
morning last Did I?

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Did I or did I not have.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
To kick you out the studio?

Speaker 6 (03:18):
This morning? I went downstairs the smoke?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Did I or did I not have to grab you
by the arm, get your things and kick you out
the studio this morning? Did I tell you to get
the fuck out the studio? Why might I verbally say
get the fuck out the studio?

Speaker 7 (03:34):
That might have happened, but not the way that you're saying.
So might the events might have went that way? But
it didn't happen like that.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
So how did happen?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
What is going?

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Essentially? I was sitting here.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
I was coming in after a long weekend, so I
was just sitting here trying to reboot, trying to refresh
for the show, right, And he.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Was like, Yo, why are you just sitting here like that? Nah?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Nah?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
Get the energy. I'm not actually get the fuck out.
You gotta go back, go out and come back in again.
I'm like, yo, bro, I'm just tired. Bro. He's like nah,
nah nah.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
So I was already going to go out to smoke anyway.
So he guided me out the door. But I was
already going anyway.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
You gotta come in here on the right energy type ship.
They're sitting there sulking.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
And ship sulking. It's crazy, bro. I can't be tired.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Bro, you it's ten o'clock in the morning. How you tired?
You had a long night. You had a long night.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
You can't talk about baby, last night. Good night.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I hope everybody had a good last week in a
good weekend. The Virgos is here, Oh ship they drying
up this summer ship. Quick, get your ship together.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
That weather kicking.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know what I'm saying, as soon as they said virgo,
the heat dropped ten degrees, Yo, ten degrees rain, hurricanes, breeze, okay,
fire and bring it's happening.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Niggas breaking up all over the world. The Virgos are here, understand.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Shout out to y'all, though y'all darkness, y'all spreading across
our lives.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
We was outside having fun, y'all. Couldn't have that.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Y'all forced to fall on us, forced it just so
you could celebrate your birthday. You selfish motherfuckers.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Bought the call front.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
I got one of my favorite content creators on the
show right now. And he is not only a potter,
he's actually one of the first people to start booking
here in the Hard Saw studios. But he's also a
content creator for real, right, the guy. I met him
only say, two maybe three years ago. Remember when Commune

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and cutting combos, Remember when they was doing the hand
come in and you know you talk to the screen
type shit whatever?

Speaker 6 (06:00):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
That was in the best of hurst, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
He was in there and he did that. But then
since then, I've watched his brand grow. He's doing his
own videos and all types of skits and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Angie v.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
You Nigga said he's the mayor of New York.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
He said, he's the mayor of New York, and he
walks around with a group of baddies and he asks me,
who's the mayor, who's the king?

Speaker 6 (06:25):
To see?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
What do you say? What do you say? Are you
a pimpimp strategist?

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Oh? Ship, Yeah, that's wire strategic. I like that.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Why you look at that face?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Sounds like a pimp.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know what's.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Happening selling themsel selling.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
They're just a group of female contents that I've helped
my carefully and they just make me look good. They
look good, m you know, but those are my dogs
on my Homegirls.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
I like it down.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Thank you all right, shout out to the homies. They
look good, but they're also intelligent. I actually want to
have parents come on the show. She's one of your
main co hosts, right or main host? I don't know
how y'all run that. Very good looking but also very intelligent.
I think you love having her on here. I tried
to have her on here previously, but you know, we

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couldn't get our schedules together, so maybe soon we'll have
her on there and you'll be able.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
To say, ell, I'm not surrounded by men. Yeah. Gross,
Now you and Angela got you? An Angelo? What's Angelo
got into a combo?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Earlier?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
He said he's been waiting to get here.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
I don't know why to talk to you, and he
said he feels like you don't like men.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You made a face.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
It's right around town.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I don't give a fuck, never cared, ever cared like?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Is that a false statement? Though?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, okay, whatever what you want to do?

Speaker 5 (08:04):
You said you've said multiple times I hate these niggas.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
I don't have I don't have empathy for.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Niggas, not my nigga.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
But so, why is it when somebody says that, you
feel like it's a attack on your personality.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I didn't say it was an attack. Why are you
putting words in my mind?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I just don't care.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
But what do you hear for? What do you mean
you hate it? Debate me?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You just don't.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Also not here like for you to tell me how
the funk I feel about No. I said I don't
hate men, period. There was a period at the end
of that, and then I said I don't care about
how y'all feel about what y'all think I think about men, Angelo,
I don't care the Low Low show hear from the
Talk That Sir podcast.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Why do you feel that gosh hates men.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Is a strong word?

Speaker 6 (08:58):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think it's just I think it's one of those
like being the night closer to you, I need I
need it or something. I don't know where.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I think it's more so she there's an undertone that
she carries where like there's like you know people who
be mad at ship but can't really tell you what
they're mad at.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
So like it's a ton of projection women not just womens.
We I think we all do it, like for example, like.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I had a phase like that before, where like I
hated I didn't hate women, but like I hated the
idea of certain women, and I would project it in
a ton of ways. And but I wouldn't be able
to be like I don't like women because.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It is because it's gonna sound real fruity.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
So like I would say a bunch of smart things.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't have.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Up up though, if you know how to talk, you
know how to talk, you know how to put.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
It together and make it sound like you're saying some
deep ship, but you don't like girls like that, So
I think it's the same thing with based off.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Again, just what I see. I don't know you, so
I'm not saying that is you.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'm just saying there is this under tone when you know,
when you have certain conversations, there's like, oh, deep down,
like if you don't understand men in our full you know,
genetic makeup, or even just how we think and process things,
then there is going to be that slight, you know,
bitterness of not being able to express that same thing
that I've felt with women before.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, that's That's just what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You know how to express yourself said, I'm an articulate
and bitter.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, no, no, no, you're not bitter. It'll come off bitter,
It'll come off a bit better. But again to men,
the hit dogs, that's hollering. See, but that's what I'm saying, Like, whatever, man,
here's my thing. Whatever man you think is the exception
to whatever your idea is as a man, I can
tell you he's not right. You could do the exception

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for him to how he moves with you.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Why are you talking about in relationships or friendships because
different things, whatever.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Let me explain something to you about me. The conversation is,
I actually have more male friends than female friends. I
have always hung out with boys. I've always been the tomboy.
I have always been the one girl in a group
with fifteen niggas like. That's always how I've been, literally
since I was a child. But my thing is, I

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actually think very highly of men. But I don't think
men think highly enough of themselves. I don't think that
many men are as smart as they think they are.
I don't think that they are as strong as they
think they are, and I don't think that they are
the leaders that they think they are. But when a
man presents himself to be those things, you have the
utmost respect for me. But I don't respect men just

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because you were born with a penis to be a man.
I think a lot of them are little boys, and
I want them to grow the fuck up. And I
don't think enough men are holding other men to the
level in which men should be. We pacify bad behavior,
We allow them to get away with shit that is
really unethical and unmoral, And I do not pacify behaviors

(11:58):
of grown ass men. I don't dislike men. You're right,
I dislike a very specific archetype of a man. I
don't respect that archetype of a man and I never will.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's it question.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Now, go ahead, flow with me.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Don't because you're surrounded by men.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I am. I didn't this one up as today.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
As I don't feel like that same demographic that you described.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yes, it's the same thing in this time and this time.
Women are absolutely.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I hate a stupid ass woman because I don't think
that women should be stupid. I hate an ignorant ass
women because I think that we're too smart for that.
And you know what, I hate the archetype of women
I hate right now, if you walk around and call
yourself a baddie, you're not the type of bitch you
want around me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
This is what I'm saying. With the bitter stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, am I better it comes off? Why does it
come off better? I can't have an opinion. You can't
have an opinion. I know I did, but I think
there's an undertone to the opinion you're assuming where no no, no,
no no, no no no no.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So that's why we're gonna ask you why women that
calls yourself a batty can't Why wouldn't she want to
be surrounded by somebody like that?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Because I feel like women that that that that push
up that narrative of like baddies. I think that they
have a lot of them have low moral fiber. I
feel like they are the type of women that you
can't tell like that's probably not appropriate. Like they move
in a way that does not align with the type
of women that I would move with. I am aligned

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with women that are sophisticated, sophisticated ignorance. I write my
curses and Cursive is one of my favorite bars of
all times because you can turn up and have fun
and not be a caricature of Black culture. And I
don't like anybody that dis or misrepresents Black culture as
being some bullshit period.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
No no, no, no speak up about.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Because my thing is like what's your thing? That's where
it's where the undertone comes from. It's like again the
badding because I have a different perspective of bad.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's perfectly fine. Your ten years, my junior year. We
should not agree on that.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yes, yes, for sure, But also like I think there's
a lot of personal and you just you just put
a stigma on somebody because of no, you did, because
again you said, you just said, and you can run
the tape back, you just said that you feel like
the woman that you know use that word in that term,
you know, carry some type of immortal D D D.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
They those are not the women that can be in
proximity to me.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
But but the reason why I ask that, the reason
why I ask that is because again, when when I
speak about that undertone is that there I can just
from your tone itself, I can visualize who I think.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
You hate, I hate, I don't hate anybody.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Dislike or disagree with. I can visualize I.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Love that for you. It's not it's not a hate,
it's not a dislike, it's none of that. It's the
fact that at this big gas, at this big as
he's trying to say like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Like, like, she's no, you can call it what it is.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
At this big age respected you can talk about you.
I don't like to hang out those type of at
this grown age of mind.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
All right, let me.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Can I ask you interjet real question?

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Yeah, I'm fifty exactly, and for a woman that I'm
dating at my age calls herself a baddie.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
There's automatically going to be Yeah, for sure, right, I'm
be like, what you what are you talking about? You
are in your twenties exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
She's in her thirties knocking on forty, right, So I would.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Think that it would be age appropriate for her to say,
Patty can't hang around me at my age, my big
grown right, because you're not trying to make it seem
as if it's a she's talking about a personality trade
or whatever. But we've all been through stages of life, yes,
and once you're past that past, you can't go. I'm
not hanging out with that.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
No more facts.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think again, I listened to like what she specifically said, right,
I think what you just said is not what she said.
I think I think what you just said is more
of Again, there is no undertone to that statement. There
is no like you like yo, I'm not I'm not
kicking with that. That's a big red fly for me.
I think when you have a bit more passion behind it,
when you're saying all the things that she's saying, it's like, no, you,

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there is a dislike that you have for this specific
group of people. I dislike everybody born I think, which
I think is I.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Dislike everyone born after nineteen Okay, got you, which I
think is fair.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
But I'd rather you just still doing it. I know,
because again we just spoke about there is a there's ages,
age groups. There's people in your age group that do
still use these things, right, and they grow for that
they I agree with that statement, but I'm saying the
energy in which you carry when you say these things,
it's like, no, you don't like them?

Speaker 5 (16:58):
All right, hold on, let's let's let's spread the love here, right,
I'm not talking about the energy y'all got y'all just
be young.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No, no, I want to guess I wanted to come in.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
I was talking about that was a minute ago. Right, No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I say you need that. You wanted the ice. So
you gotta get listen. You gotta see.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You got to see where she's coming from.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Let's get this away from right, because we're gonna be
able to attack. Certain I got a lot of conversations.
Let's go a lot of these conversations happened. It has
been two weeks since we've been here about something like that. Yes,
what's going on with you?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
How's everything.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
I'm killing, big bro, I'm killing. Ain't nothing, just grinding.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, you never got nothing to say.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Always the same, Aquarius, because that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
You're the coolest, y'all cool mother, Just appreciate that oor farman.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
What is ora farm?

Speaker 5 (17:51):
And that's one of the new new things, nigga.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
That's just the energy just I think I think the
young kids called oor farm and when somebody just naturally
got or they feel like it's being like, you know,
like people are doing it doing the most.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
But that's what they call orfarming.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
So him not doing a lot is him doing the most.
Like nigga, you think you're cool with some ship, it's
like it's us hating on that vibe type ship like
Carmelo Anthony is the perfect example of that.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Like a nigga that just be like, no, I'm good,
like damn nigga.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Like Yo could be a person. It's okay to be
a person. So we just bet saying or farm yesterday
with you data.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Batty right now not like what I've been with Batty
now why kind of some of the same stuff that
Darr said. But I'm not as hard on the stance
as do because I feel like you know, I feel
like it just depends on what it looks like, because
I feel everybody's version is different, and you know, people's
language is different too, So I feel like depending on
how she's carrying herself, if it's more playful than anything,

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then cool. But if she is like on some Natalie
Nune is my og, then I'm not fucking with it.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Like I need to know who your ogs.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
I gotta I gotta know who you're looking towards for guidance,
so I can kind of say like, Okay, you know
what I'm saying, Natalie None, or are we going?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
You know what I'm saying that though.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
It's more of a like the language barrier. But you,
as a man, you'll understand that because you deal with women.
You know, like there's just there's levels with me. I
think again, just from here you speak, I think there's
just more so of like that Natalie None thing where
I'm like, wait, I know like a ton of baddies
that are like not on that wave.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah, And I think it comes with the stigma too,
because I like, just like everything, when you use a
certain word, just like Yans when we say Wayans, we
think of ski masks, Nike techy a honey degree.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Whether is it okay to shame Awaiian.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Angie?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think anything that puts with passion, Yeah, I personally
because I feel keeps you want.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I want you to look at that as the same
I hate honestly I hate wayans.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Would you look that the same way that she talks
you about bad? Yes?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
But again for me, I have a little brother, so
and I'm like, I work with the youth and stuff
like that, so I kind of understand, like I'm a
bit more empathetic and sympathetic to again the system, especially
with the DOE and stuff like that that I've worked
with as like things that are not put into place,
and I've worked with, like, you know, really marginalized communities.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So all right, So so how I communicate it would
be severely different.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
So what the conditions are that makes them wear hoodies
and ski mask in one hundred degree.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Weather mental illness?

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I think so we could call Miamis.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I think it's d school.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Even before that, I know I have kids that do
it because kids are easily influenced.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's what they see, it's what they made cool for.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
A certain time, right, Like my generation we started the
textus stuff. So we're talking about said we started the
text Nike text suoit came out when I was.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Like my generation.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Your generation started Nike text suits, yeah, yours.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, but it was like a fashion statement at first.
Text just didn't come out to twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Are these people Okay?

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I don't know? I know.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
So again, listen, there were fleeces before the Nike textu.
I did a whole thing on it. It came out in
like twenty fourteen. This is when I was in high school, right,
so this is when again hip.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Hoppers were what from high school?

Speaker 4 (21:15):
All the all the musical fashion trends came from people
from high school. Same thing right before us when Asappened
was sending the trends, they were in high school.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Like with Supreme and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Ye deep, that's where again when you come when you're
talking about New York inner city schools, that trend comes
from the high school.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Same thing with Justine Scott, boyfriend Glenn Brown and all them.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
They had a whole fashion the Jiggy Jiggy ever like
they controlled that Tumblr wave that controlled fashion.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
You ever been a forty ounce bounce? No, because you
was too young. Okay, but that because everything that you
just mentioned, that's how we were. The twenty year olds.
We did all of that. So you talk about the
asap wave, we're talking about forty ounce bounced. We're talking
about like that hipster look the.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Deep.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Your generation wants to take credit for that, but that
was specifically. But we're talking about the rise of texts,
the suits, the text that was that was us the twenty.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Years that made it, that made it a trend.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yes, because we were wearing tex suits when y'all wasn't
allowed to wear hoodies in high school because we was
grown so we could wear them all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
What year is this the.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Same year that you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Four Yeah, but right before the text suits, it was
the polo swats suits, that's what that's what that's what
that was.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
That was your high school era, the polos.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
That's not what high school.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
The rugby era.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
That was college.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
That was college for us.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, that was I just told you. I'm damn there
for I don't remember when y'all credit I was when
I was in middle school.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
The U again, the high schoolers had the rugby on
they had remember the whole US p a versus Rolph Florence.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yes, that was that was the fake one when we
was at the Rugby tour and over there by fourteenth
Street when the Rugby store was still there, and afterwards
we would go to Va Piano when Va Piano was
still there because we was in colle Yes.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And I'm saying, is the Nike text suit trend itself
specifically twenty fourteen twenty fourteen, because that's when the actual
text suit.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I did a whole video on this on my page.
That's actually true, That's what that's not start.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
No, I did the whole I did a whole breakdown
on why the text suit was just specific.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
How old were you in twenty fourteen?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is it high school?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Fifteen? Like my sophomore year.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Y'all did't even y'all couldn't even gotn't even your parents
was buying. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Like, yeah, yeah, it's the same things again. We are
the consult for anything to move. It's the kids, right.
The kids just wouldn't move product. The kids wouldn't move
those products, not the adults because the parents are going
to buy their shoes. The parents are are going to
buy the test suit. Sat went back to school stuff.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Now.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
What happened is we had a wave of artists from
New York our age group that was coming up on
the scene, and they were wearing the text suits like crazy,
and it became a thing for us in school. We
did not have again, we didn't have social media to
look at you guys doing it the last the last time.
I remember that generation, right we're talking about I think
Justine Scott's around y'all Tom. That generation was when Tumblr

(24:05):
was alive, yes, and controlled the fashion wave again. They
were high schooler, yes again. And Tumblr died out by
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen because Instagram came out in twenty twelve,
blew up by twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So all these so the way we were consuming continent
and seeing things, it was only us.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
It was only people that we followed before Tumblr was
was like Twitter to us, like it was like a
big gys like space where you get to see any
and everybody. So again, that high school wave up until
I say, a little bit into college, for us, we
only knew each other. I could not name a question
anybody that was like not us, If that makes sense, I.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Have a question because although I was alive and it
had experienced in that time. I was not part of
this wave. I know, I was grown out of that, right,
So I saw it happening, but I was like, why
is it happening me personally? Why can't it be both?
Why does it have to be the high school? And
why are you saying that was us the twenty year old?

(25:00):
Because because this was a fashion trend that was happening. Obviously,
if the kids are seeing it from somewhere the twenty
people are seeing it being cool, why.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Can it be something that y'all bonded together and both?
Who could you name?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
See? How I could name like a sock?

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I don't could you name that that wore that? And
was like, oh where everybody.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
From my block? That's who I can name? Everybody from
the college campuses is what I can name.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
See you, I think that you're like into like that
come from.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Here's the thing, right, I think that you're one of
those people that you like, know and have researched things
from certain times. And I get that, and that's cool,
not necessarily, but you just said that, you said that
you researched it, you did a whole.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Video that was my time, though, I researched that thing
for my time, like I wasn't born here, so like
any anything before, Like I'll say, two thousand and five,
I know nothing about right.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
That's fine, that's valid. But what I'm saying is that
I can speak to it because I was really outside
at that time. So like you saw it in school,
I saw it everywhere your parents bought it for you.
We were grown. We went and got it ourselves. So
like where you had to ask mommy and daddy to
get you a text suit, we just went and bought it.

(26:15):
Like we was in fashion night out. We was outside,
like we was lined up in front of Supreme stores,
like we was at South Street Seaport when Drake did
his free concert, Like I've been outside since outside. So
I just find it as somebody that also is in education.
I always find it interesting when younger generations feel like
they like curated something when it kind of was passed

(26:40):
down to y'all.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I feel like the young people do that all the time. Yeah,
Like I just always felt it to be funny, like
with that.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Thinks with the TEXTU stuff specifically, that's something I'm willing
to down the hill on that die out.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's fine, you haven't.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Y'all had to ask somebody to buy it for you,
though it.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Might even just buy it for us, because again, remember
these stores don't have no age limit. I was in
the stores at fifteen sixteen, like we always go, remember
chance that that was the spot for buying and selling
and trading, like bro, let's not before this new generation
of high schoolers.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Our generation is not.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Too far from how you guys did things when you
guys went to school, Like there were not that many
restrictions in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. Kids were outside,
we were online on Facebook market before fake market, marketplace.
It was a buying and selling territory. Like we've we've
had similar experiences. So like, yes, my parents may have
given me money or I have saved up, or some
of us were working, some of us were emancipated or whatever.
We're not too far from Like I went to school

(27:35):
in Coney Island, like the kids niggas was jugging and
moving around like yeah, people people were still scamming at
the time, doing whatever they scamming.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
This is where YA was staying outside in the stores.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
So that was but that was the environment that you
know most that was a whole time period. Yes, yes,
that's not too far from them.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's not too far.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Remember high schools a four year but while I'm a freshman,
the person ahead of me is like thirty now, right,
So that's that. That means you were ahead of them
about six years. We're not too far apart.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Which is why I'm asking why y'all are beefing about this.
It's beef.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
I think it's just like, no, it's the demo.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
It's a like that was our that was our uniform,
That was our uniform, it was in our music, it
was in everything. I'm not denying that. It's the same
thing with like their BB's and like whatever fly you
had on before that was yeah ship where it was
in schools and again.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
What the is bb BB baby belt?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, So just just just to put it out there,
like and let's let's not act like kids do not
send the trend in high schools, do not set the trends.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yes, things may have been may have been passed.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Down to us, but specifically, and this is where, like
I could I could argue the generation thing. There are
plants placed in generations where yes, a child or a
high schooler or a teenager had started something. This is
why people think taller creator is a genius now because
he set that whatever, whatever vibe he's set at that
moment in time was a one of one concept that

(29:08):
got to develop over time.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'll let you have it, but I'm not giving it
to you.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, it's just about the style. I'm not letting nobody.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Let's not lose the plot on this convo. You would
date a baddie at your age, a woman that identifies
herself as a bad As a matter of fact, what
is a baddy?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So to me, it's.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Again because I'm in it, it's it looks completely different.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
What does it look like? It's like, describe a baddie
like your perfect to me from to bottom, describe it.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I got corporate baddies, I got.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I'm a guy. I will not run away from that.
I like attractive woman. I will not run away from
that idea. But there's levels to what I want to
be with. Like, I definitely don't mind a girl feeling
like a bad right because I date older.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I date my agent on it.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
So like, I like me a corporate batty that you know,
go to go to work and work for the you know,
the companies that I work with, but she want to
take some ads on the weekends and we go to
church on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
That's what I personally like. What does she look like
like physically? Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I want you to describe the batty.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I don't about it.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
So I'm gonna keep it a sack with you. I'm
a pretty face type of dude, so I don't mind
to bbl.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I don't mind.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, my my first life was big, like respectfully, like
if you got a pretty face and we.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Could don't I ain't say nothing.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
You ain't even got to do that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You don't have to do that.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
I didn't do anything, but bro.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I seen, I see what a pretty face and I
like it.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
You gotta go vibe. My biggest thing though, respectfully baddie
or not. You gotta you gotta be good to people.
You gotta be polite. You gotta know how to speak right,
and you gotta know how to You have to have
great instinct. I need somebody with great instinct. So that's
what if I'm If I'm gonna settle down with somebody
and be with I look for those qualities, the things
that you value and how polite and nice you are
the people and how big are you on community and family?

(31:07):
That's what I value, bad you or not if you
don't come with those, I don't care right now what
I'm attracted to. Though I'm a man, I think with
my penis ninety eight percent of the time.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm also a twenty six year old man just to.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Be he said that he can fuck a lot more
than us.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
No, no, no, no, no no, no, I'm not so I'm
not as sexually driven as you guys, like as i'm
at all.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Oh what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Like back then?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
I feel like it was way more like at twenty
six year old, you have way more testosterone than you
have discernment. No, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's just a fact.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
But I don't think I'm making bad decisions in value
as compared to my like me personally, I don't have
a crazy sex.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
But you can't say what you said was I'm not
as sexually driven as you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
No, you're not as sexually driven as.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
The people your age, not as the people older than you,
because the people your age have a way more sexually driven.
That's the people my age and age around you. Like
for man, it declines as we get older.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know what I'm saying. So that's that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Like, yeah, don't get me wrong, I feel like you
definitely career driven.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's my ship.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I guess I was flinging this to somebody the other day, like,
you know, I have people I deal with over and
then we're having this conversations. Said, yoah, I'm so stimulated
by everything that I have going on.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Sex is the last thing on my mind.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Like when I have a lot of like things that
you know, you you know, your vision boards, like you're
checking off and I just come home that night and
I'm just so happy and satisfied. I could go to sleep,
Like I compare it to like busting and nothing.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's like, damn, I feel mad good. I just did
some dope shit. So I was there.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I just that's seasonal because I know, like when I
when it's time to crash, I crashed. But like in
this current season in my life, I got so much
dope shre going on. Like sure, you're gonna have to
wait on that.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I saw a clip.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's like, yeah, now this is I swear to God
today's episode.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Then we already have that.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
It's completely to the base. But I did see one.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
I g clip right.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I wasn't gonna introduce it now, but based off this conversation.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Since it's fuck it, why not? All right?

Speaker 9 (33:19):
All you men who stand up, men who go out
there and put your elbow into making a woman, make
sure she's straight and hard working and respectable, chest up,
checking out men, and you really on the grind, and
you really got ambition.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'm not getting.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
I'm not getting a five or six.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Bro.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Leave these little pretty girls along. They don't put their
elbow in it. I'm gonna keep it one hundred over
there looking at oh she did, Oh look at her Instagram.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Oh she a nine.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
She'll see I'll get you a five or six.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
We're gonna put some elbow into it.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
You ain't gonna be down for you.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hilly did a video like that a couple of years
ago too.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
You know what I'm saying. They gonna look at you
like why he with her?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Don't worry about why with her?

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Because she's gonna do everything you ain't doing. One.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
That's the new way with your beyond fellas, Like man,
I forget all that how you look when you with
your arm around her now she ain't she ain't got
no substance to.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Her that nigga fifty Bro.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Wait what he like?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
All right?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I still like a good looking woman.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
No, no, what I'm saying like he just he a difference?
Why are you doing that?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Look you're talking about the way that she talking about people.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I'm seeing a little shad. But I can tell you,
I can tell you.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I I'm gonna tell you all like that ship though,
why I don't like what he says? Why I feel
like because twenty six because I'm twenty six, But I
also feel like yo, bro with Paul Pier specifically, first
of all, one of my favorite players.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
I love.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I love his ignorance. I love it. Don't think I
don't love it.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
But I also know, bro, like again, you're projecting, bro,
like it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Out for you and now you're finding an I'm so yo.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
If you fail that something, stand on your failure. Don't
go and the people. We like to create our realities
to make ourselves feel better. You know, bro, you fail
with your doms. Now you want to five US six
because again, career is done. Bread not coming in the
same I know what's going on, bro, I'm that talking
I'm gonna tell you that, Like, yo, Bro, I know
you're I know you're projecting because of your circumstances right
now when you was in the league. This was not

(35:23):
a conversation. No, I love, I loved and pleased. If
you clip this up, I love Paul Pits. Don't think
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
We're cutting that out. But we're cutting that out. But
I could talk, but I could talk. I'm a guy.
I be known when people are projecting, bro, like, you'll
respect because I do it a lot.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
You bro, science you're chatting bro again, You're you don't
even look like you're in shape right now. Gain you
don't look like no matter how much red you got,
respectfully you feel me.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
I think that that's pure ignorance what you just said,
just the last part. No, in fact, no, because men
women give a fuck what they say. Money make a
nigga sexy. They don't give a fuck money ten batties

(36:09):
around around them right now if he got the right cash, right,
So you can't.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's at that part right.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
There with Ludacris.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
But I do want to go to yesterday before I
have anything to say about the rest of it. Do
you agree with what he's saying, or what.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
I understand the premise of what Paul is saying, and
I feel like, I think, I'm not going to say
a five five.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Is tough, like five is just tough. I'm sorry, five
is tough.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
But I understand what he's saying because I think as
far as with men, especially younger men, I feel like
men get caught up in the look and the marketing
of a thing, right. That's why the baddies and that's
why all of that is like the go to thing.
But I think what Paul is really saying is like, Yo,
get you a girl that's actually gonna like like be
a positive that it's going to be a plus in
your life. It's like some of these batties are not pluses,

(36:54):
they're just negative. What I'm saying, they're just minuses. They
look good, but everything else is a minus. So I
think he's speaking more so to that. I agree with
the premise, but I'm not going to say, Yo, just
go get you a five or six.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You've got a lot of head rolling in here. Now
I just hit you.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I'm just saying, no, look, bro, i'd rather you say
that's what you believe. Don't put words in that nigga mouth. Bro, Like,
what you just said again is not what he said.
You feel me and again you make mad sense. That's
what I'm saying, that's what That's what he was supposed
to say. But don't be like yo, Paul Piers.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I think he no, no, no, no no, that's not what
he said. That is not what he said.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
So you're not you're not. So you're just not rolling
with him saying that.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Because I know what he's saying. He's saying exactly what he.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
Means, basically that he fucked up and he needs to
downgrade his situation. Okay, that's you feel like he's not
being authentic and honestly saying that.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
You're keeping it like, yo, this is the idea, like, yes,
get you a woman that's gonna you feel, get you
a baddy or whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
That's not he said, Yo, get you a father a six.
That was the lead, That was the hook.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
He didn't say, don't get you a baddy that no, no, no,
he said, get you a father of six.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
He's gonna put some elbow and wrong, but what's wrong
with the elbow and it what's wrong with the five
or six?

Speaker 6 (37:57):
With the elbow grease. What's wrong with that?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's not that.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
It's when you're telling people to go get you a
five or a six because they, Bro, you're putting a
stigma on what you think of Father six is and
what you and why you should get them.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You just said something completely different. That's your words. I
listen when people speak.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
He said, because they put some elbow in it, that
means you there's a specific five or six that you
would imagine like, oh this this that's not to me.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's not okay, bro, that is not okay. So but
what you're.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Saying is like, Yo, get you somebody that you're attracted
to that's gonna, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Be on the plus side.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
That is not what that nigga said. That nigga said,
he said the opposite. He said, he said what you
said backwards. He's like, the people that put the elbow
in the ship is the Father sixes.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
That's what he said. That's exactly what he said.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
What he said, so there's no baddies that can put
the elbow into it, basically, that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
That's what I'm saying. That's that's why I don't decide, yo, bro,
what are you talking about? Right now, got in front
of your face.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I'm processing a lot. I'm I would love you to
have I do feel Why would I have a feeling.
I don't disrespect my eldest.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Know how many relationships you've been in like relationship, like
hands handship?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
We count different, we count so two people have ever
I've only ever asked two people to be my girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
How many?

Speaker 6 (39:16):
So?

Speaker 5 (39:16):
How long have you been in serious relationships in your life?
So I've told you again, I'm twenty six, Okay, twenty
six and then there's no, there's nothing after that because
you haven't there's nothing and then.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
No, yes, six year. So I've had.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Two serious relationships and the second one was my How.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Long do you think you've been a serious persons.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
In regards to.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
How long have you been an adult? How much adult
experience have you had?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Realistically, I'll say about three years of like, legit.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Three years the baby you're able to judge a person
twice your age and the message they're sending and the experience.
That's what I'll be talking about with you, young niggas.
You young, and I love you young niggas because I've
been there. I've been there, and I remember that feeling.
I remember that shit. I could go back before being

(40:16):
on the door. I remember when looking at my aunt
and my mom's telling.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Me shit and be like you ain't cool like that.
You can't tell me about the life I'm living. I
was just telling you this about the day the other day.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
The thing is Paul Pierce, and this is what I
don't like about the Waiians or the young guys. Right,
we've lived your life already, you've never lived mine. I
can see where you're going. I'm trying to help give
you some perspective. But because you don't respect me being fifty,

(40:50):
as if you'll never be there, you won't listen to
the advice.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
So now I'm, as I said to my cousin the
other day, behind a sound proof glass.

Speaker 10 (41:01):
Banging on it like no, do down there, and you
see me, like, look at this idiot banging on the window.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
This old motherfucker go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
You're fifty, and you go right down and make the
exact same mistake.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
You have a question for you, So when you were younger,
you were never right before.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
No, no, that's not what I said. I said, I
ignored the words mean things, is what you said? Please
don't infer something else. I said, y'all don't like to
listen to people of older age because y'all discount that.
Y'all discount their experiences based off the fact that they're older,
when you should be adding weight to their advice, like, Yo,

(41:44):
maybe this motherfucker might know some shit. So instead of
any instead of whatever message that he was trying to give,
because you knew what you understood the message when.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Yesterday said it.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, you said, so you know what the message was.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
But you looked at him and said, yo, you ain't
even got no money.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
No, you can't say that.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Fact, but you know what it is. This is one
thing that I did realize about different generations, and I
feel like my generation was the last generation to be
able to have that discernment and kind of read between
the lines, like to get the gist of what generation
was here. No, it is, it's gonna it's up Like, no,

(42:22):
it is, it's up generation?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
What the fuck? No? No?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
And I and I actually appreciate this space because I
don't have a lot of space to talk to twenty
somethings like I choose not to, but now we're here,
So what I'm trying to say, is I just think
that I think that y'all too y'all literal as hell
like like there's like like like there's a deeper meaning

(42:48):
behind what people are saying. And what happened is poulp.
Pierce said something yesterday articulated the deeper meaning. You took
it as the literal meaning, like you took it for
face value, you but not understanding the deeper message underneath,
and then said that those are two different things. And
this is why I, as the educator that I am,

(43:08):
I have to stress to the kids so that they
don't make these mistakes. They have to understand that there
is a literal meaning and then there's a deeper meaning.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
And when we're.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Answering questions, we're answering under the guise of the deeper meaning,
not the literal meaning.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
I think, what what do you t I.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Taught English for years, but right now I'm a vp.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
An, A bit ironic though, Oh come.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
On, tell me the irony, No I want it's just
more of like, yes, right, the deeper meaning, the theme,
the theme what.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Like, I think that's what central message, main ideas.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Objective, all of that objective. All of that, though, is subjective.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
To the reader.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
All of that the theme of a story, the theme,
the message of somebody. No, it's so, that's why you
have to be clear in the initial message when you're
speaking to a group of people.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It depends on No, No, that's not true.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
That is not true, because you could read something or
you could hear something, and it'll completely apply differently.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
And again there's moments where because.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I feel like can be honest with you, Yes, I
feel like we're all ignorant, right we all have yes, yes, yes,
we all have a level of ignorance.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
That is a blanket statement.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
We all have a level of ignorance to us.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
There is parts about people or parts of things that
we hear that we won't fully understand, agree with, or
even know right. So again, just because you don't understand something,
or because I don't understand something right, that doesn't necessarily
make us wrong because again no, no, I'm just I'm
just giving you the idea of what I think the
theme when people are speaking in themes and deeper message.

(44:50):
Because you three agree and I disagree, does not make
me wrong, because again, there is no objectively right answer,
is what I'm saying. So that's why I'm saying in English,
because you told English, and again just from you telling
me that, it's like, Yo, look like you know, if
this sentence says this and it means this, and it
means that. Now, if it's open to open interpretation, that

(45:11):
has to get also communicated because again him saying that
and me reacting how I did, I'm not the only
one that's acting that.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I'm the only one in this room that's acting like that.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I'm sure there's peers of yours, your age goul that
would probably agree with what I didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I don't know if I said that you was wronged on.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
And that's the thing, right, and I have to I
have to make that. I have to like stamp that.
I'm gonna make it real sticky. This has nothing to
do with right and wrong. But I think that there
is a conversation to be had that just because people
disagree or have differing opinions, that means that somebody has
to say, well, then you're right, you're wrong. Nobody in

(45:48):
this room said you were wrong, not one person. What
what was said is your interpretation is different from our
interpretation than Tahoe explained why, because being older, were trying
to warn and and ward you guys away from certain situations.
But you're you don't want to hear that. You're not
ready to hear that, And that's perfectly fine. I don't
want to hear that because.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
You just said it.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You said, this is what you said.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
You said fifty.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Before you clarify. It's more like no nobody cares. And
that's the thing like some of y'all, I think. I
think there is some people that are entirely too literal.
And that's that's my only point. So when yesterday goes
into the overall message, you told yesterday, no no, no, no, no,
that's not it what it is is, and you called

(46:38):
this man everything but the child of God. You said
that he's miserable. You said that he broke, You said
that he was out of You said you talking about
what he literally said. You called this nigga bitter. You
said that he can't pull the bitches that he used
to be. You said that he cannot pull it in.
You're telling me that I try that we be chatting.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
You chatted up, and nobody judged you, and we let you.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Do that ship And it's cool because the clip is
gonna be fired. What I'm saying is you know what
I'm saying to you is friend. It's okay because he
caught the deeper meaning. I caught the deeper meaning. He
caught the deeper meaning, and you changed the meaning of
the whole conversation and called this everything but a child.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Get this, CLU. Can I get this whole click? Get
it what Paul Pierce said and then what he.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Said, and let's have the general public from demographic of
twenty one to.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Fifty six eighty five, whatever pick you put me.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Because again the undertone in which she's carried and.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
You've been talking about even to it's like, yo, bro,
I get that I'm young here, but again, if.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
We please fifty and last laugh, that's where my energy
comes from.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Personal wait, I'm like, I'm not tripping. What you said
and what people said was too completely.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Can we really talk about what because we can speak
about our interpretation.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I appreciate that we have.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
We have yet to actually the three of us have
yet to actually answer what was being said.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
We're just talking about his interpretation.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
So I was going to say, I was going to say,
I see what's going on because the funny part is
so I'm older than you, and I'm a little bit
younger than her, so I'm right in between y'alls. So
when I'm listening to y'all, y'all, both are making valid points,
and I understand both sides.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
But you know what I think is a real issue.

Speaker 7 (48:47):
I think the issue and the difference of generations is
that older generations, I think message versus messenger, Right, the
message was always more important than the messenger.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Right, we take it, we take it. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
From the guy, the community leaders, people in the block,
even the crackheads.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
Sometimes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
Versus the messenger, the old the younger generation, I feel
like the messenger as is way more important than sometimes
the message because if you're not even presenting me somebody
that I that I can buy the message from, that
means that the whole message, the whole I'm not even
going to find them. I'm not even going to resonate
with the message. So I feel like that the difference

(49:26):
in generations is really that, you know what I'm saying,
message versus messenger.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Boys just season.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Next, Yeah, that's valid, he did, he did.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Now what I would what I want to say, right,
I want to go to because again you I don't
think that you still answered it.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
I do believe that there's validity me.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Too to what he said when he's talking to these
young guys. And this is something I do want it
to be. I do want to have your opinion. Right,
there are some guys, I would say, both of y'all
that can when you go out after a certain woman,
she's going to respect the fact that hold on, this
nigga can pull my competition.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
I'm gonna have to because I could.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Lose this nigga to evince that thinks she can fuck
with me.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
So in mind, I have to show him a certain
type of energy, right we got regardless whether that's look, swags, money, access,
social whatever it is. This nigga, he ain't no slouch.
Take him back to a lot of women and I
said this other forget don't forget the compensation.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
I'm sorry, not here.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
That's crazy, you know, all right, it's diabolical.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
What was I gonna say? Women?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
The baddies now, they care about the things that you have.
They don't care about how you look, ship like that.
They care about the things who you are?

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Right? Who you are a status?

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Right, if I was pulled pierce a nigga that had
it been through this any other, should I be telling
the nigga to go after the chicks that's looking for
you for your money and status.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
No, because because you've been there, done that, and you're
trying to you're trying to prevent young men from making
the same mistakes that a lot of men have made.
Because if you're only going for aesthetics, if you're only
going for looks and how fire her Instagram is is curated,

(51:36):
You're not getting somebody with some substance. You're not getting
somebody that really cares about who you are. You're not
getting somebody that's gonna be with you through the ups
and downs and the ins and outs. You're getting somebody
that is going to be with you for face value,
for what they could get for how long they can
get it, and then they probably gonna breeze on you.
And what he's saying is like, we're caught up on
the five or six. I did I really think that

(51:57):
that's hyperbole because he's not saying, go get you the
ugliest woman in the world. It's not that it's go
get you somebody that cares about you. For who you are,
somebody that has some substance. Stop attracting and only going
after people off of their aesthetics and what they're showing
on social media, because that doesn't mean anything. We all
know a bunch of bad bitches that sleep on a

(52:18):
blow up bed, Like, stop it. Your Instagram is fire,
but you getting fucked in five star hotels and you
still going home to no fucking bedframe, So what is that? Like,
what are you doing with that? Get somebody that has
some type of a substance. And I don't understand what's
wrong with quotable. I don't like raiding women on one

(52:38):
to ten, but I'm gonna say, like niggas don't even
be as fire as they think they are, Like once
you take the hat off and take off the jury
and the clothes, like most of these niggas be fives
and sixes two.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
So now I'm confused. But the standard of beauty for
men and women are severely different. But you're right, You're right,
like extremely different. I'm gonna keep it a stock.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I feel like I'm a ten outside, but I'm like
a five six inside. But as a man, I'm inside
not inside, like inside and side I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Like in the house, not like like in your heart,
like no homo, like street me naked.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I'm like, I could be better like physical if we're
talk about the physical aspect of they did call you shrink.
You know they're not going back and forth about it. Yeah,
you know, like because they drew more attention.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
But anyway in the app yea, you know, come on, bro, yeah,
but t ship young nigga. Shit bro, Sorry real quick.
I want you to finish your point real quick.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I was finished.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
I just wanted to ask you guys, though, are you
guys the reason why the messenger matters for me personally?
I'm a Paul Pierce guy, so like the reason why
it's hard like watching you guys, like I could tell
that you guys aren't kept up with Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
How to funk you want?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
That makes you think yo yo, for sure they talked
the trade of mind. I'm going to assume because just
based off like that response of like what he was
trying to say, if you know Paul Pierce and you've
been keeping up with him or his show or his platform,
there's a lot of inconsistencies in his messaging where it's like, yo, bro,

(54:15):
the first thing I'm going to look at is the
messenger today, Like, yo, bro, what are you on today?
Because yesterday he was on SiGe else a year ago,
he was on sign Else two years ago.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's it's too many.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Inconsistencies where it's like I can still and even even
as far as how you're delivering it, you're not even
delivering it in a way where it's a bit toned
up because I don't know what I'm going to be
able to like take from you because of the personality
I know that you are.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
It's hard for It's like kind of like I don't
know s.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I know Queen's Flip how he's like rebranding, you know
how hard it is for him because everybody's but he's
a bit more intentional with how he speaks and what
he says and what he does.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Right, Paul Pierce is moody with the stuff.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
I'm gonna say something that's a huge pause.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
I believe in.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yo, you not saying nothing does everything.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Though I believe Queen's Flip's growth more than I believe
Paul Pierce's growth.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I don't believe that Paul Pierce has grown at all.
I think that he's actually been on the dcline and
he's one of those people that I wish that my
greats would shut the fuck up. But that does not
make that part of that clip.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
That's what I'm wrong. Yes, that's what I'm talking about
right there.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
I get that part.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Do you get that because do you think articulated?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
That's fine, that's fine, But the statement is what it
says because you're making it about Paul Pierce, and I'm
talking about the statement itself now, and then you're making
it about the five six versus the the eight, nine, ten,
the baddie, the ones that call themself the baddie Riddy.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Attractive women are like y.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
I think she's not gonna identify even though she said,
you know, I'm a baddie, She's not gonna identify as
a baddie. She knows she's fine, but that's not the
biggest best part of her.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
But you have a luxury girl out of who is Paris.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
She's good looking, give me a number.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Don't don't rate a woman that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Let's say, let's say, well, University Paris would be on
the higher end of that scale. Right, you can't, you
can't brose she will be here, so you know, yeah,
Paris is one of those in my opinion, my perspective
is one of those tens that have that put the
elbow in it, Okay, right, And I've had the luxury

(56:35):
and this is why I speak on myself personally. I've
had the luxury of being around a lot of those
type of women that.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Does she consider herself a baddy or does she consider
herself a beautiful woman?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Due to due to.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
The again the language of our generation, she will call
herself a baddy. But again like super family, like she
has the structure in which she you felt her aura.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
And her energy bro even how she don't push that
on me, don't.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
I'm just saying because I think, because because you've seen
her and like think I could tell you, like yo,
like this is one of those like don't let the
I'll tell you off camp something something somebody hit me
upstad about something. I was like okay, and it reassured
me on the type of person that she is.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
And so that's what I'm trying to show you.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
It's like I've been I've had the luxury of being
around a lot of those type of people.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Where on the.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Physical do you don't think? So let's let's just say
that we we both I see him one way, I
see in other ways.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
What about the other ways?

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Do you think that the guys that see her in
those ways, if you know what I'm talking about, would
consider her? Would you think that poor pace would recommend
her for the average guy.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I don't feel like most men every want to look
past the woman's looks. I don't feel like I don't
feel like most I think the I agree, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I don't think. I think no matter how much.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
It's the same thing with like my arrogant personality that
people see no matter how polite humble I am to them,
because they already perceived me as that it's gonna be
hard for them to look past it, no matter how
much I treat them or move with them. So same
thing with her physically, because she fits a specific demographic
with her look I don't think men. I think it's
always gonna be in the back of a man's mind, like, nah,

(58:16):
there's no way she's like this, and.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
They're gonna project on her right.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
But I don't think that that has anything to.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Do with actually actually is I agree with that in
a way. I definitely agree with that. As a matter
of fact, I got Let me switch to the conversation a
little bit right now. There was a young lady right
hit me up in my discord. She said, let me
ask you a question. I got with this guy.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
He did all of these things for me.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
He would take me out, he would send me flowers,
stuff like that, and I don't think he knew how
much money I make, so you know, I was doing
things back for him, right, And she said, after a while,
it just stopped and she went I think she said
that she wanted to order something that she said that
she she said, there's a tweet.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
No no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm fucking this up.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
She said she wanted to do something and there's something
that she would have expected him to be like, I got.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
You, and he was like, you know you good, you
know you're gonna take care of that.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
And so she was kind of like.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Like like, what did I do wrong with this guy
that stopped him from like treating me a certain way?
What did I do wrong with him that stopped him
from wanting to take me out on dates? Like buy
me things like, you know, treat me like a lady.
Treat me like a girl. And then I saw this
tweet on the internet. It said, I'm talking to my homeboy,

(59:49):
and I just don't get it. He'll take a broke
girl on trips, feed her, spoil her, but the woman
who got her own, he wanted to do the bare minimum.
Make it make sense, mhm? Is there any reason? Do
you guys have any reasoning for that? Why he changed
up on her, why he stopped spending on her, or

(01:00:11):
the guy that will do a lot for a broke girl,
but when she when you notice she has a lot
of bread, you don't do the same thing.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
I think, I'll say, I think I think it's the
difference because I think it's as men sometimes I think
we don't want to admit that it's a level of
control that we like. Right, So doing something for a
broke bro you know what I'm saying, You're in control, right,
you can ration and you can you know, kind of
lead the wave of what's happening. Right, I'm making the plans,
you know what I'm saying. I can set the parameters

(01:00:38):
of the situation. You know what I'm saying, As opposed
with somebody that that you feel like has more money
than you. Your control is going on. Once your dollar
amount is over with, you're you're out of the water.
So if you're saying your hey, I'm thinking of you know,
I'm thinking of the steakhouse on this day, and she said, Yo,
I want to go to Jamaica, I got it. You like, ah,

(01:01:00):
do you know what I'm saying? But you're you don't
have the control. Now, you know what I'm saying. She's
now in control of this of you know, the particular situation,
and I feel like certain men are not comfortable with
that situation.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
You get what I'm saying. If that, if they're kind
of that makes so much sense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
So the type of men that I hate, going back
to that conversation, this that type. You can add that
to the list of the type of men.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
What type of man is that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
That is the one that only sees value in controlling
the financial situation. And if they don't have control of
the financial situation, then they feel like they don't have
a purpose. So that ego starts to get bruised. And
then you start treating me differently because you understand that
I don't need your finances. That's some wild shit, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
What about the fact that you have every time I
went to do something, you did it yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
You bought this, so you did that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Like the there's the girl that automatically pays. That is like, yo,
you that's but it can change the makeup and the
way that you look, like say, protect the provider, not
protect her, but providerr.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
It's like, Yo, she got it. You're gonna do that.
Maybe I'll show up. I might show up in other ways.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
That's not financial, that's discussing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
But that's what I would suggest for a nigga that
if she can if he can only afford the steakhouse
and she can afford Jamaica, nigga buy a swimsuits or
something like, you could still.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Show up in other ways your ego already because you can't.
But you can't up other ways. And when your ego
get bruised and you start moving different, it's like, Damn,
I liked you, and now I can't like you because
deep down you a bitch.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
That No, A lot of what you're saying is true
because just like you said, like you said, that's a
good point, Like yo, okay, if you could do that
I'll buy the swimsuits or I'm gonna do this. I'm
gonna still be useful in the situation. And like you said,
you have to be okay with with your roles. We
talked about the old time being able to change your
role in real time, like Okay, I was m VP,
she's in me pizza today. Okay, I gotta get rebounds
and lose balls. Some niggas are not cool with that.

(01:02:54):
Once you still niggas, just like I don't want to
play no more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Niggas want to give me the assist, Like I got it.
I'm in this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
There's two couples that I admire a lot, and you
know they're gonna be shocked because they're old. But Iola
Davis and her husband and leaks and rest in peace
to her boy. Because there's the thing I think most
men and you're probably gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Like this, who's you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
It's three niggas in here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I don't want to say your name wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Most men don't understand what true masculinity is where it
doesn't have to show up in finances, it doesn't have
to show up in physicality, right, Like there's a masculine
or that most men possessed that don't They don't ever
fully tap into that woman submit to naturally, right, So
like most men aren't aware of that because if you

(01:03:54):
take about talk about social media, if you talk about
this era of like we don't practice the things that
we used to practice back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I tell my friends, I saw a time like this
is minor example.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
I came up in the era where I had to
go walk up to women and talk to them, not
not DM. That walking up thing was like I got
my reption to know how to talk to women, even
as far as like getting corporate. So like we were
missing a lot of those factors that made us men know,
the action of you walking and having the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Balls to talk to her is the masculine effect. So
because now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
A call yes, without a schedule, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
So those because we're missing a lot of those reps
that we had when we were you know, coming up
in a certain time. Even now, like the older men,
even just you know men in general, we don't have
that innate masculine identity anymore where it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Know, like I'm that guy in regardless of whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
And Greg had that because there's there were moments that
I've seen with her, and you know, like nan Is,
however she is, it takes a specific type of man
to tame her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
And same thing we're talking about Viola. I've seen, I've
seen her bost I used to work in real house.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I've seen Greg because he he was the very polite
guy in the background, but when she wanted to do
something and he just and that that energy just came up. Yes,
but he would still go do something else that served
her in another way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
And that like right after that, like, Yo, I'm gonna
treat you, but you're gonna protect it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
I'm your man, though, don't disrespect That's not what you're
gonna do, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
And most men could pause could fill that on other
men too, like yo, bro like and and that's again,
men aren't acknowledging and noticing it because we're missing those
reps of like you don't know what it took to
even get because you just took a DM a little
couple hundred dollars got here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
So a little texts with me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
The reason why I personally fell in a situation like that, gir,
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I was at a Osaka Foundation. The other day, I
was trying to back up Naomi Son. Her cousin came
and interrupted. But in my head, I don't care how
much Brad you because again I did my rapt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
I was in the field like I had to even
when I was trying to talk to older women when
I was younger, like Yo, I was in the field,
really had to Yo, what am I gonna say?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
What am I going? Most men we don't have those
things that may make.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Us men anymore, just have money and these narratives on
social media and or the idea of money we have.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
We have the idea of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
These things that we think that the woman really want.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
But done so, Bro, there's always gonna be a nigga
like me piping your girl like respectfully a man that
just happened.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
It's a mad fast I didn't even see that in
real quick, but it was right there with her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
You're piping this girl too.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
Hello, I'm fuck with you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
I really fused all they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Say, cool ship and do what am I answering right now?
What part of this conversation? It went three ways?

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
So I really want to go back to this question.
This young lady asked me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
She said, what did she do that make do you
think that she did something or that her having money she.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Hurt his e with what by like, yeah, because she
would like with reciprocity.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
Reciprocity can hurt the man's ego.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
It's something wrong with y'all because she said that he
would do things for me, and then I would do
things for him, and then he would do that, and
then it's like when he's starting to realize that that
you can do a lot more than I probably anticipated.
And now I feel some type of way. I don't
know why. That's the main thing. I'll let y'all handle that,
but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
And y'all are saying that you think it's a lack
of masculinity in him that made him stop doing those things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
But there's a lot of men that think that there
are men again, like I said earlier in the shows,
because a penis that is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
And I get that, but I disagree that just because
I stopped doing things financially, it means that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
My ego was bruised. Like, yo, I know you have money.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
But that's not other away. But that's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Maybe that's just how he's like, I'll show up in
other ways.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
We need to understand what other ways did he show
up if he stopped showing up and doing things for
her financially, because if there was no pivot and you
just stopped showing up the way that you were showing up,
that is a clear ego.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
I was about to say, you know why, I can't
roll that because if the situation of the first and
the woman is like, oh I find a nigga have money,
and I just I just I don't think like I
need to do anything, we would be like, come on,
like whether he has money or not, why do you
feel like you need to stop? Or like, why are
you basing what you're doing off of his money status?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Piggyback that like, let's say a woman.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Yo, pin that because I'm coming for that woman.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Old woman found out you could cook, so she doesn't
want to cook anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
And you jumped right on it. All set comes out,
All set comes out with the song I didn't even.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Think, no, you straight, it's cool, We're flown in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
The song, I guess he's talking about his field relationship,
his film.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
The album is all right too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Boy, it's better than gunshit. I was surprised, So.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
This song, I guess this is a it's called move on.
He says, you never cook, nigga, no food. You just
wanted to go out to no telling me ship that
you don't do, telling me ship that you won't do.
You fucked around with the wrong dude, right, I commented,

(01:09:20):
never cooking, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I'm not gonna she said, I don't cook clean. But
let me show you how I got this rich.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
You married her, But that's not that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Let's stay away, right, okay, right, people said.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
What's up with these rich, wealthy niggas wanting their wife
to cook clean? Who's just as rich wealthy as them,
if not more higher a fucking chef?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no, hold on, hold on,
hold on.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
You see that's what you look at the fact that
they both have money that that should negate that because
we both have money we both can hire a chef.
That doesn't make it special. The actual cooking part of
it is what makes it special, whether him doing why
would we if we both if we both have money,
we both can't do the money thing?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Do you mean people having the money off in a relationship?
What do you mean.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Men have do terrible jobs vetting out their women. They
do they do not do that that pre screening process.
We should not while we here, while we have this
conversation post marriage, that is the conversation before we even
go out, before I even take that next step, Like,
and that's my biggest thing with men that get married

(01:10:34):
and start Bro, why didn't you vet that out?

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
How you finding this out?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
You and you agree to it, and now you're mad
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
I don't even want to entertain that. I can have
this conversation, but I don't want to take because it's like, Bro,
I'm gonna I don't like it to not vetting out
your women.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Bro, I don't like it just like this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
You know how many times you have ladies with me
just like that? You know how.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Many times a person that get in to a relationship
all the things they need to do to get into
the relationship, and then after that that ship falls off
because they're nowhip. So now I mean, bro, we sit Yo,
You're right, I'm reaching.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
I know I am reaching, but I've seen this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I've experienced this where people do certain ship to get
you there and then that shit falls off later.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
And I think that's why it's important to like tell
your flaws up front, because that's what I did with
my husband. I'm like, let me tell you, this is
a few things that I'm not finna do. I don't
cook in the summer. I just don't. I've been saying
that ship for years. I don't and I won't. It's
fucking hot, go to hell. I'm not doing it, but
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I don't do laundry, except I don't do laundry. I refuse.
I hate folding. I will wash everything in this house,
but folding it it's not happening. So what are we
gonna do here? I can clean every room in this house,
but my bedroom is always going to be a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
That's your room.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
If the bedroom is a mess, that's you. I can't
do nothing about that. That's I ain't really mad you, honestly,
And you got to put.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
That out on respect that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I know he's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I see why he's the exception for you for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Why do you see what the fuck is?

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You know, that's a lot that's a lot of what No,
that's a lot of like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
You know, that's three things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I said three things heavy three things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Though, Why am I a fucking maid?

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
You said you don't fold your own clues, not his.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
No, I don't fold ship because because honestly no, but honestly,
like before we live together, before we live together, Like
no matter how broke I've ever been in my life,
especially in my twenties, like I always set my laundry out,
always sent it out, had it folded and come I
never that's that's that's just the type of person that

(01:12:52):
I am. Like, I believe in convenience, and I believe
that when I make a certain amount of money, like
I'm at the point in my life where i make
a certain amount of money that I should not have
to have to come home and do some ship that
I don't want to do. And I don't want to
do laundry. And if you're not comfortable with sending it out,

(01:13:13):
then that's going to be your job, because if not,
I'll still send that ship out.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
Right now, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
I hate that for you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
If you come you gotta do this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
For your child as a man, what does that hold up?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
God?

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Hold I grew up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Hello, what.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
You have a child?

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
You got to come home and do ship that you
don't want to do there, yes, So now for me,
you're not going to for me the person that you
had the child with, you won't do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
No, it's not I don't want to. You're taking it
too far because before the child, before the man with
the child, with the man, I'm still the same person.
There are certain things that I rather pay for to
be more convenient.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Ever, won then.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
The point is you knowing when you gotta not when
you gotta go beyond what you want to do for somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
But excluding me and being the somebody, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Are you comparing yourself to a child that literally can not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Telling you I'm the person that fucked you and gave
you the child.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
That's not the point is that drugs like y'all be happy,
and men men and their envy to how women take
care of children. It is kind of fucking crazy because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I gotta do the same ship for you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
What I gotta do for a woman that I don't
want to do, Like why I do it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Because this is what she needs to feel loved and appreciated.
Like what you will sit here and tell me what
you won't do?

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
What me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Like? Why this is what women are doing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Give me an example, what do you do for your woman?
Not exactly this nigga wasn't finna say ship shut the
fuck up like I'm not you know one thing, I'm not.
I'm never even gonna I'm not even gonna play. It's
that bullshit. But at the end of the day, I
believe inconvenience is she it is still gonna get done.
So yes, at this point of my life, I should
have somebody that comes and cleans my house. I should

(01:15:06):
have somebody that does laundry. I should be able to
take things, the weight off of household things for me
and you. So now we got an extra date night,
somebody in the house cleaning and doing the laundry, and
now we could go outside as a family. Like at
the end of the day, if you can afford it,
you should be able to afford it. And I'm so
sorry that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
I have a question for it, very quick, very quick,
before you answer that. And I said this on the
the internet and it was crickets after I said it.
The same women who are saying yes, he can hire
a chef, she can hire a chef, with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
The one saying.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
I don't want no nigga calling triple a to change
my tire.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
I want him to be able to change the tire.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
Yes, but now on the very same hand, not even
on the other hand, No, you can go hire somebody
to hook me a meal, clean and clean the room
and fold my clothes.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
That you don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Hold on, I got you right now, okay, But.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
You won't do it because you can pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
See, there's a difference between knowing how to do something
and paying somebody to do it and not knowing how
to do something and paying somebody to do it. If
you paying somebody to change my tire as a man
because you can't, I'm looking at you crazy. If it's
a convenience thing, that's completely different.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
You don't have many niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
No, it did not move because it's the same thing.
You know how many niggas don't know how to change
a tire? Do you know how nigga don't how many
niggas don't know how to use.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
A fucking screwdriver.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I'd rather go get a task rabbit to do it
because you can't. Bitch, and that is that that bothers me.
That's the ship that will piss me to fuck off.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
But hold on, hold on, hold on, be a.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Fucking man, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
No, I don't like bitches, and I love women. I
don't like bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Because I'm genuinely confused.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
No, no, no, no, hold don't don't. I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
I'm trying to understand who you're talking about. So I'm
all right. I never I've never had a car before.
So if you with me, I'm calling you. I'm saying,
but do you know how to do it?

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
No? I've never had a car. What there? Where am
I learning how to change? Your father?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Your father father?

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
I've never been around my father like that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
And that's you're seeing how the problems is just compounding.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
You see, where is your dad's go call?

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Your dad started seep? You just went somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
I didn't, No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
You know, I'm not talking about your father, you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Know, forget when you when you just have an father,
your son, you have an idea of what I do,
have an idea just like how y'all have an idea
of what the woman is supposed to be a woman
is supposed to know how to do. Because I know
how to do laundry, I've learned how to do laundry
since I was a child. You know why, because my
mama taught me. I know how to clean because my
mama taught me. I know how to cook because my

(01:17:59):
mother and my grad than my aunts, they taught me
how to cook and other female friends. These are all
things that I know how to do because as a woman,
in certain men's head, these are things that you should
know how to do. So in my head, a man
should know how to fucking fix a cabinet. A man
should know how to change a tire. A man should
know how to do and put things up and put
them down in my house, And if you don't know
how to do it, I'm questioning who raised you?

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Yes, and the problem with women's entitlements, right, you're a
titlement to us. Knowing how to do certain things. Yes,
is insane to me sometimes because because as a man,
I would have to all those things that you described, right,
the things, the convenience in what you want to pay
for the idea of you doing something that I want

(01:18:42):
you to do is far more stimulating than just paying
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
I believe that I want you to build me a
house right now, That's what I would like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Me personally, me personally. The laundry thing, I understand. I
can you think I understand. The cooking thing, I don't understand.
I don't think. I don't think women understand.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Like when you go in the kitchen and this stuffs
for me, you know from my childhood cooking it like
I want to taste, like put your finger on about
let me taste with mick with that like there's there's
again those reps that we get as human beings matters
that that energy in which the rooms and the atmosphere
again us cooking, Yo, son, go give me that thing
in the first those things that we do not value

(01:19:20):
because they became so.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Those things me and I won't have a type of
relationship in the kitchen. We have a great relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
My mom's a chef, So for me that moment, those
moments for me, they count, Yo. I need you to
taste the mac and cheese makes to make sure those
those minor things, Yo. My parents my parents want together,
but they live together. Yo, Philip, I need you to
go to the store right now and give me a
spec like those are things, those are the intangibles that
come with those things.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
The launchie thing, I can I don't think there's as
much there's there's spirit. There's spiritual aspects in cooking and being.
I agree. So hiring a chef shows me what a
level of neglect. It shows me a huge level of arrogance.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Because of because of you being in a position and
you not wanting to get in that kitchen and get
your hands dirty. The same way if you was to
tell me to go fix, I'm like, now I'm going
to call somebody like, no, I want my closet fix
right now, because I'm supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
As if I don't, even if I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Want to do it, pull up a YouTube video and
figure it. The funk out level and.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Titament that a woman has is far and that that's
a double sta standard that I hate. It's far more
important to cater to than what a man's because which
was just suck it up and be like okay, no, no, no,
and I don't play about that kitchen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Ship because but that's the but that's your route, right,
like that's something that that that that is really personal
to you and that's perfect to be rooted. Listen, that's
not you can't make that type of a statement because
that's not necessarily but that's not necessarily true. Yeah, you
can keep but I can keep your stomach full without
having to be the one to physically do it. But

(01:20:54):
it's so what I'm also thinking about personally and like
and and now I'm gonna really move the goalpost. What
I'm thinking about is the fact that we also have
a house full of kids, and maybe me having to
deal with the baby, the toddler, the school age and
young kids. Maybe I don't have the capacity right now

(01:21:17):
to make you a fucking meal. So maybe I will
hire out because I'm chasing these kids around this.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
I say, you have to cook all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
No, And I understand that, ever, and I think that
might be hyperbole too. You never know, I said.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Not cooking the summer.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I don't care how anybody feels about that, because say that,
I will say that every day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
I don't get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
You didn't get.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
My husband felt about it. This are my rules.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I don't cook in the summertime. And it was a
there was a specific reason why I didn't we spoke
about this on this show. I do have a good man,
I know, but at the end of the day, you
know what I like to do in the summertime, I
like to go out. I like to be on rooftops
with my man. I like all the fucking I would
rather spend all the money in the world in the
summer time. But I'm not about to sit in the

(01:22:06):
kitchen when it's one hundred and five outside, everybody tired.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
If it didn't if it's getting paid, either way, what
does it matter whether or not to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
It's because because to me, no, I am just a girl.
But to me, just like how he feels very sentimental
about the kitchen. I grew up and in a house
with a single mom where we were the only girls.
I know how to do so much ship that I
don't feel like it's in my realm of knowing how
to do. I know, I've lifted couches, I flipped mattresses.

(01:22:43):
We had a fucking toolkit that with pink fucking we
had pink drills and ship like I literally know how
to build a house at a certain scale, like no, like,
no tea, no shade. I know how to build a
house at a certain scale. I never want to know
how to do that ship. That ship is not that's
not for me. And while y'all saying here is doing
this and I'm going to I'm breaking down to y'all.

(01:23:04):
My mother's no stops. My mother had no I'm dead
serious too. My mother had an affinity for dollhouses, like
that was her thing. She loved dollhouses to the point
that she like one of her hobbies was building dollhouses.
And I'm not talking about like a fucking Mattel pass it.
I'm talking about wood like cutting that shit up like

(01:23:27):
like That's why I said, like, she really made me
build a wooding house to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Like at a small scale.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Obviously I can't build a big but these are the
things that I know how to do because these are
the things that my mom taught me how to do
that my dad wasn't in the house to teach me
how to do. My mother was the type of person
to say that you should be able to know how
to do certain things and not rely on people. That's
what made me hyper independent growing up and at the
age that I am now, I'm a soft girl. I

(01:23:54):
want to live a soft life. There is nothing more
sexy to me than a man that knows how to
do men shit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
The fact that I don't ever have to pick up
a drill in my house.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
The fact that I could ask my husband to fix
anything and if he don't know how to do it,
he gonna go on YouTube and figure out. But what
I'm saying is the same way that you feel about
the kitchen is the same way I feel about men
should being able to agree with us. No, I agree
to an extent extent because I didn't say I have
a problem with a man calling triple A. I have
a problem with you calling trip because you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
My problem is with you not wanting to. Though not
wanting to, but I don't know, I know how to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
That's a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
You did not know how to, and you tried.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
It's admirable even if you don't know how to spin
it out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I want you to try, even though you don't know
how to, try to try to change its own.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Yes, No, but again it's it's still going to stimulate
you the same way because you're expecting him to know already,
because he's a man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
That's the thing. The thing I'm not expecting. Fact, I'm
not expecting. I'm not expecting old women know how to cook.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
But you want them to try for me? Yes, I
love that For y'all, and I want a man to
know how to do certain things. So here we are.
We're at the imput.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
That's fair. But you're not being fair though, is my thing.
Two men, I.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Don't care about you. I keep telling them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
I don't like how you get to do that, Like
you get to say all this ship and I don't care.
Wait here, happiness coming having said, get on this show
you I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Yeah, an like, why do you kidd sobody?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I think I think that that's your lord though.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
I think that's your that attracts the like I'm gonna
one of the debate with you know now, it's gonna
go absolutely nowhere nowhere. That's why I keep it even
when it feels like it feels like it feels like
we're going all right, we're getting and I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
I like you, thank you to come here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
In this in this conversation. I think something that just
missed is is there an intimacy in preparing the food yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (01:26:11):
Is there a lack of intimacy when you remove that
or when it is not there?

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
It depends on what you value.

Speaker 6 (01:26:18):
It depends.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
It depends on what you value.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Okay, it depends on what you.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
That men value a woman that will cook for them. Generally, yes,
they will always be an outlier, of course, generally on
a high percent of Generally men value yes. So when
a man who's married says, yo, you never provided me
that type of intimacy, and you say, yeah, well I

(01:26:47):
can afford to outsource it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
Can you not see that being a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
I can see that being a problem if that is
something that changed in the relationship. I don't see it
as being a problem if that was at the base
root of the relationship. And that's why I said, you
have to put your flaws out in the open at
in the beginning. So my husband knew from the beginning
that intimacy. You're not finna get that from me between

(01:27:16):
the end of May to the end of August. Get
somebody else to do it. It's so simple.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Hold on, that's the problem that's mad at me.

Speaker 11 (01:27:24):
Because he walked in and he saw that I'm making breakfast,
and I told him that this was for me, and
and if he wanted some him, he need to cook
for himself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I told him I was not going out of my
way to make breakfast for him. This is only for
me and my daughter, Like if you're that hungry.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
And when McDonald's down the street and there's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Eggs in the fridge and there's bacon and you can
make it yourself, he's acting like this is not cooking
for him. Things is bread And I gave him a
list of things that I don't do the day that
we got buried, and.

Speaker 12 (01:27:54):
He was okay with him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
So what's the problem about. I told him, if you
don't want to cook, you could wait, and if there's
not going on ahead, and what she spoke about, I'm sorry,
you're gonna I am not going to cook for you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
It's not my job to cook for me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
And then on top of that, I'm doing scrambled eggs.
He wants a Friday. No, I'm sorry, that's that's too
much work for me.

Speaker 5 (01:28:18):
I'm not going to do it. So my husband decided,
I don't know what they're going on with that goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
As most people.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
And you don't find nothing wrong with that, because I
want to she told him the day he got married, right,
not not what was said.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Ethically, like what's the special? What's the special?

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
I have a question.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I have a question. Are we talking?

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
We have to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
We have to make sure we got to make this
real clear. Are we talking about me or we're talking
about what was said?

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Because those are two different.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Care what do I care about? I would never do that.
I would funk, I would never do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Which what what?

Speaker 6 (01:28:59):
What wouldn't you do?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
I would never tell my husband I'm making breakfast for
me and Parker and I'm not making you anything.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
You're going to make your own because I told you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
I would never do that. That's that's crazy. But on
the flip side, if I am making breakfast, you gotta eat.
What's here?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Friend?

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Like, don't don't be don't don't don't be ordering.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
Out the difference between a scrambled.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
And difference because I don't eat I don't even eat.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Breakfast, the difference between a scramp. Don't make that point
to that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yeah, I know I was.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
That's why I said I can't even I don't even
eat breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Don't you only went to make that yo?

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
That would make me hate you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Yeah, No, that's that's a violid hate me. No, she
hates him.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Yeah, she probably hates him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
That would make you hate her because she hates you. Yeah,
that would make you hate her because she hates you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
She definitely hates doing here getting on the internet and
telling people that you're making me miserable.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
No, not got to break it down.

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
No, no, my husband how she got she got? She
like yo yo guys yo goy. Yeah, you're not gonna
believe this ship. This nigga mad like I hate my husband.
This nigga made that reminds me a reason why she
hates you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
That reminds me of when she didn't want to give
her extra kid. The kid. Okay, bro, damn like, you
gotta tell me you don't like me.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
Son.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
You do not have to tell me you will. Women
will show you ninety eight percent of the tithing that
they do not like you. They might love you, they
do not like you. Facts.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Liking has a ton to do with tolerance. How much
can you tolerate somebody? How much things could they get
away with? They do not like who they're with. Most
people aren't like because again, that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Genie mind and j Z thing was the ugliest thing
I've seen in a long time. Like this man asked
you for a kid, and then you was quick to
go get pregnant by this dude. That happens all No,
for sure, but again it's she was.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
She was adamantly for years. She was just like no, no, yes,
she was going to work. She was on the view, right,
not the view to talk.

Speaker 12 (01:31:05):
Yeah, come on same same channel too, So bro, she
would go to work on live television and be like,
I do not want to have kid.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
She used to while out, No, I'm just not in
that space in my career. That's also why I blame
Z because.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
You used to dude, Yo, the dude, the dude did that.
The dude went to go have a kid after they
broke up Internet, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
A year later and they're talking, well, yeah, think I
have the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
She hated that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
Nigga that initial love stage, get you, suck you up,
because the minute that kid was had, she went back
to know, fuck these niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
And that's that's like I feel like, I feel like
the Leader of Men sent Jeez for her to go
get that done.

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
I think to put a baby on her.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Yeah, yo, go go show her that she she she's
bugging up.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Leader. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
We was, We was on offset and Cardi for a second,
I do want to speak about Cardi mhm, just on
some joke ship, just on some this whatever. Yeah, we
yesterday was trolling me about the Imaginary Player song coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Like that, who sucked the team?

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
This one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Barb?

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
What why?

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
What did you like about that song?

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Huh?

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
What did you like about it?

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
First, of course, I love imaginary players, so the bus nostalgic? Yeah,
so that that that hooked me. But she had a
couple of little a couple of little Instagram captions in there,
Give one, give me one. I don't have it off
the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
I don't listen to it twice because it was.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
And my Oh, I don't think you understand. I'm thirty
six years old. I have real ship to do. I'm
not just sitting here like memorizing songs that came out
three days ago. But when I'm ready to put up
a post, I'm one of them. Bars is going to
be in there. Absolutely. I don't you know, CARDI can't
do no wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
So oh, okay, yesterday she got your straight face. What's
going on here? Because you had a lot of shade
for that song.

Speaker 7 (01:33:21):
Listen, I feel like I feel like we're not going
to be honest and fair about certain people in certain music.

Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
So that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Why what you didn't say nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:33:31):
No, I'm not talking about me. I just I don't
mean y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
So I mean no, no, no, I mean in general,
I'm saying, like, the whole just the whole fact that
this is even happening, that's even a thing. It's like,
come on, I feel niggas would not let most people
get this off. If we are letting this happen because
we like Cardi and we're just not gonna say anything.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
So you don't think that a song? No, all right,
so they say that that's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
Oh, go ahead man. I know you, I know you
can't wait, but I agree.

Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
I think it's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
I think it's a traves ceo.

Speaker 7 (01:34:01):
I will say, yeah, if anybody else did it so
a jay Z song, you would be up in arms.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
Because you like Cardi. You're gonna act like it's so.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
I love Cardi, but you can't say that to her
when I love Cardi like I've literally done videos talking
about car I love Cardi.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
Yeah, but you're not Jay And the history that that
song you can't do, can't do that, that's my pom
saying that you can't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
Come on ahead, I have one ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
I said, you can always tell when Cardi writes her songs.
That's the most that I can say about that song.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I love you some Cardi. I plan on work with
her in the future, so I'm not gonna say too much.
But I know when Cardi wrote her own lyrics.

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
Did y'all hear this that? When they put these lyrics
on to get money beat?

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I did?

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
You didn't hear that?

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
Let me see when doing the black Mass even the
mashups broad ain't she ain't.

Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
Have to do that, man, it was on your body.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
She don't have to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I don't understand, Like I don't understand, like he come
to six pretty.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
I hate I hate ship like that can the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Hottest ship holidays.

Speaker 11 (01:35:29):
They set walking around looking lacking colony, stop problem.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
You know you your eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
I think it ship flows on that song, on that
beat as well as on that beat.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
I'm big on like as an artist myself, and like
again this the marketing aspect of it, Like I'm big
on artists aura, Like I don't think aura fits that
five and style. Maybe if I see a visual that
might change that, because I think she has a great aura,
but I don't think her aura fits that type of
sample and that sample, like, it's not like it's a

(01:36:12):
remix sample that was the exact same, right, So like
if we're talking about twenty twenty five, we're in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
The sonics don't register the same. But I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
We know what we like, that's not what we were
introduced to her as also, so I think there's a
love lest expectation that she, you know, kind of missed
on and I just don't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
On her.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
That's not it. It's not it like, it don't matter
like what beat you put it on.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
It's just but she sounds like she has like a
speech impediment when she speaks, and that's why certain tracks
or certain lyrics fit her better. I don't think on
like a two thousands or nineties beat, it's it's too.

Speaker 7 (01:36:54):
Slow, yeah, like the slow I think the slow bpm
like she has to enunciate. It's the delivery and delivery.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
She you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
But I love me some Cardi though it sounds like
she has a what I'm dragging It sounds like I'm
not trying to sound.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
I'm surprised that today correct about what You're just liking
this because it's Cardi.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
You ask that question.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
I just wanna know if she's gonna be if that's something,
she would be.

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
Honest Dodge as well, and she is season enough to
know if this was from any other person, especially another
female artist, and the ship was like this, she would
not be rolling with this. She would not allow niggas
to get on the jay z be and just do anything.
So that's my that's my problem I'm having with maybe
maybe if it was Lola.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
I think if it was I think if it was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Lola, I would have been fine with it. I think
that because it's in the authentic New Yorker I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
What's surety that sounds like Jay.

Speaker 6 (01:37:58):
Yes, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
That would have been because she can rap. She can
actually rap, So though they wouldn't clear.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
It wasn't clear for Lady London, but yeah, clear that
for Cardi because we know this is exactly what Cardi does.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
We're gonna have Lady London did this. We're not having
this conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
But that's at all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
That's that's what the industry is about right now too.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
So if we're talking about anything music related in the industry,
it's going to be about strictly marketing and strictly numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:38:20):
What do you mean Cardi is not the number pusher though,
so that what you're saying makes sense. But when we're
talking about this musical performance, so many performances.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Why would rock, why would nik Nikki wouldn't do it,
But she couldn't have either, that's not she would have
did better.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
I don't think. I think for the same reason that
y'all saying about Carti just like rapping on a on
a beat that's slow. I don't see that from Nikki,
but she does that doesn't I don't. I don't see
it for I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
Don't connect, but she does.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
And here's the thing, right as a as a consumer,
right now I am. To me, it's not that serious.
Like to me, it was very like it was just
it was like a cute play like I don't feel
like this is like a like I feel like this
is just a B side that she put out point.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
I think that's his point to touching a jay Z
bet and you being a bias Cardi Fano.

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
It's like who you don't you don't I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
The jay Z like, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
I think there is this thing when that comes to
jay Z is like you do not play with any
of the songs beat right, because his sad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
For it, for Cardi to be the person that does it,
and for you know, you to say, not that I've
wrong with what you said.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
I'm just saying, it's like, oh, this is like it's
not that serious. Was cut with anybody else, like he
was saying, it would have been like Joe Buddy? Would
it have been like yo, Joe Buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:39:45):
Him playing the other version of the song tells me
that he knows that it's not that good. That's why
that's why you played a different version of the song,
because you're you're you're still being able to get the
ercross but with the familiar beat, right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
They so that means somebody likes it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
No, it means we know with the number.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
It's again, it's strictly numbers right now, industry, it's strictly
Do you think they thought that was going to go?

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
No, I think it's a B side. I don't even
think it's like it's I don't think it's a single.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
Listen, No, listen, guys, this is what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:40:11):
Cardi is and she's under a new man, not new management,
but her her label is under a new team right now,
so all of the people that signed her are the
whole building is not there, so she's working for new people.
Nothing that's happening right now. I think it's her decision.
She's not calling any shot, she's not making any real moves.
She is showing up. She's showing up the work. They're
telling her, we're going with this, We're doing this video,

(01:40:32):
we're doing this, this, and this. They have a plan
for her. It's nothing to stop. But the ship comes
out what in a month or so? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
It's nothing, it's nothing. She's on enough fast like that's all.
That's why.

Speaker 7 (01:40:42):
I also don't want to kill her because she's not
in the greatest position, so I like, you know, I
can keep it there about the song.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
But they made her rhyme over that beat.

Speaker 7 (01:40:50):
Yeah no, no, no, I'm not gonna say they may
have rhund over the beat, but as far as her,
as far as putting it out as this what the single,
that the second single is that the lead single?

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
No, no, no, that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Outside she is the lead single. Actually Wopping Up is
the lead singles, but that was on the album.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
To Real Quick. Yes, So there's actually like visual evidence.
I forgot who was.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Doing an interview of like yeah, that happens where like
there's like a sixteen year old that rides for Cardi.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
I forgot who was talking about an interview the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
The six year old car Cardi doesn't even know that
she's on some songs, like the label was legal, like yo, Cardi,
we got your versus Cardi, we got like they.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Cardi is such a I don't want to call.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
An industry plan because I do believe she works for
her position, but there is Cardi is one of those
few artists that her name is so big, her influence
is so heavy, they have to push her because they
get their return on Cardi every time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
What pushed though she's not even in the top two hundred.

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
Yeah, that's why. That's why it explaining earlier. But as
far as the numbers thing, and I feel like as
far as the name and likability, she has that, but
she doesn't push the numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
She doesn't. She doesn't even do it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
But that's because she hasn't been dropping though.

Speaker 7 (01:41:58):
No, she has been dropping back. She's been dropping for
the last couple of years. She doesn't she doesn't know
but like, what what what?

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
What has she been dropping?

Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
That's my that's my point. She's put out at least
five records.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I know she did did a couple of Spanish joints.

Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
No, no, she did some rap joints, but you missed them.
See what I'm saying, which ones?

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Though?

Speaker 6 (01:42:14):
The joint offset? He did the video for what is It? Enough?
Remember she did the enough record? It was another sampled
record at least.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Two or three those words when she was having disputes
with the label.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
Though, No, no, no, no, no, she's been in the
same situation for the whole time. It's not a dispute
the label. Basically, it was just a turnover at the label.
So basically the people that signed her, that got her
where she at, they just got fired and there's new
people there. So now the new people are coming and saying, hey,
you've been here for seven years. The budget, you know
what I'm saying, you probably in the red. You know
what I'm saying. We've spent all of this time recording.
You know what I'm saying, Hey, listen, it's time to drop.

(01:42:46):
We need something. All of this just you're just not
putting out album that doesn't work for our business.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
That's why.

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
That's why you're you're signing it. Remember she went on
Instagram a few weeks ago and was like, Yo, yeah,
they got me signing vinyls.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
Yo.

Speaker 7 (01:42:57):
It's like yo, it's like I'm really working, I'm really signings. Yeah, yeah,
you said you was gonna do that for your fans. Yo,
guess what you gotta do. You gotta do to one
of the day. And she's like, Yo, I don't know
why they treat me.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
Like this a job.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Yeah it's yes, it's a job.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
This is a job. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
I ain't a hip hop historian.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
I just I'm a jay Z historian, and I thought
that that was kind of disrespectful.

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
Yeah, shout out to jay Z too for letting that
travesty go. Like that's a good man right there.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
I just wouldn't know why why they wouldn't hear the
song first and be like, nah, you can't, you can't
drop that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:43:30):
I think it was a And that's that's I think
that's a help for jay Z too, you know what
I'm saying. Because also to members, she was a bad
a bad position. So whenever if you ever felt like
you you want to get out of that. You know
what I'm saying, bad position with a lenin. She's in
the Baptist.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Duds.

Speaker 7 (01:43:50):
Well, you think Cardi is gonna drop duds, She's dropped
us on purpose, She's dropped multiple duds.

Speaker 6 (01:43:57):
Go look at her, Go pull her music. Shut up,
you can go look at all the duds. All right.
Let me see, I got a bunch of duds here.
Let me see what you want to get?

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
More Twitter Street, more.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
Tweets, tweets.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
I don't know if I m hmm. Can y'all marry
somebody who got their dead X name tatted on them?

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Are you serious?

Speaker 10 (01:44:25):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Kid too much about it that I don't give a
fuck about.

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
I'm not looking at Leon. Yeah, I'm not Felix fucking
stamp on you. What are you serious? Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
I was.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
I was one of the girl she has on your
man's neck, Rebecca. It's crazy. You're good.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
You know I'm If I'm anything, I'm not a hypocrite,
so I can't. I cannot speak on it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Are you not a hypocrite because you don't want to
come off as a hypocrite, or not a hypocrite because
you don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
No, I'm dead ass, not a hypocrite. And I have
my ex's name still tattered on you to this day
and it's still there. So how can I speak on
this and say that it's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
It's not bad because why is it there? Why?

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Why I have not had a tattoo and like fifty,
why is it there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Still in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
Miss m R s Doty, Why is that his name?
You have to get that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
But why no?

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
There it's been there?

Speaker 6 (01:45:25):
Better question? Better question? When is it getting removed?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
I don't have any intentions of removing it, but if
he requested that, you will if he asked me. But
he wouldn't do that, but if he wanted me to,
I would.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
But I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
If there's no pressure for me to do it, I'm
not doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:40):
Where is it?

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
It's right here?

Speaker 7 (01:45:43):
Not by the woom, not by the fucking not by
your wo nah, That's why I hold the go to sleep.
I'm not so he puts his hand around your waist
and grabs this other nigga's name, nigga Terrance.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
Terrance talking about this ship yesterday, but.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
It is his middle name, so I feel like I
won wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
What you say, my ex's first name is my husband's
middle name.

Speaker 12 (01:46:13):
Yo?

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
Can he wrap this? Can we wrap this up right now? Right? Yo? Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
It is he got my name with his chres and
go across and he got my real name like chess.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Yeah, but if he got if you've seen a picture
with him covered up, covered your name up, you wouldn'teel
no way about still having his name on you.

Speaker 6 (01:46:31):
I one no to.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
The chances of that happening. Is so to know he's
not going to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:46:39):
Why how do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
I'm not?

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Well, it is big, but it's bigger than mine. Yes,
you know I talked about my ex and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Even want her to run away from that. Everything is fine?
Who is my husband? Your husband?

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
Who is my husband? Who is the man that I married?
What is your question? Who ask? What's the question?

Speaker 6 (01:47:06):
He's mister her?

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
No, he's not. He's not nigga. I'm not no am
I possessive? And my is my ego too small?

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
It's probably because why.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Is that nigga name still there? Y'all? Remember the story?

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
My my fiance had her baby fatherst chain. He bought
her chain around the neck and when I got into
a relationship with her. We're fucking I just yanked it
and we went to the Diamond District and bought two
chains like that. That's my neck now, you know, why
is it still here? Get this out of here?

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
I don't understand the name.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
Why that thing which is supposed to be a symbol
of forever, but it's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Whatever, this is the symbol. That tattoo is a symbol forever.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
These three, it's three of them.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
That tattoo is there because you want it there forever.
M's that's the person's going.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
Why is their names? And you still talk to the nigga?

Speaker 8 (01:48:04):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
You would hell know?

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
He's in prison, Like what are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I don't think damn added context.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Yeah, he's in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
No is that a big deal for you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Of course it is. It'd be a big deal for.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
What human beings with feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
I date differently, so like again, these conversations and theory
makes sense and like in real time, like I date
the person, so like you're gonna have to take it
off eventually, Like if we're gonna be together for a lifetime,
if we're gonna date for a long time, we're gonna
you're gonna have to take that. I love how but

(01:48:45):
me personally, like I think I date the person, we're like,
I don't know what that history is.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
I don't know, you know what I got going on?
Or again, I also know people just make spontaneous decisions
when they're young.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Yeah, in your twenties, you do stupid, which is which
is okay, But like for me, it's not necessarily a
deal breaker.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
I think the deal breaker is the energy in which.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
You carry after we have the conversation of like, yo, yes,
I gotta go, because if I feel like there's any
inkling that you still might be in love with them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Or like, you know, it's that cherishable you know what,
none of I'm a little off here though.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
The reason I'm a little off is because this conversation
was it started with can you marry somebody that has.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Their ex's name on?

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
All?

Speaker 6 (01:49:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
And I was like, no, right, no, that's gotta go.
We're covering that up, you know, because.

Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
I'm doing it big for minds.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
But this tweet actually said they're dead X on them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Does that change the perspective to.

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
Any of the men in the room. Yeah, No, that
doesn't change anything. It kind of changes it for me,
changes nothing. The placement.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
So she got to cover it if it's on her
as she and then she could put it back somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
I'm not clapping Terence. I'm not clapping Terrence on the
back end, just as get a question.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
That's what I'm saying. So she covered if it's on
the assche but.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Then she can cover that ship regardless, show has to
put it back.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
I'm saying, if if you have a dude name like
right here, like it's small right here.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
I don't even like girls either, Like I don't like
big tattoos.

Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
Hold on.

Speaker 7 (01:50:15):
So I was doing with this girl right so she
has a touch on the back right and it says John.
So originally I thought it was some Bible ship. So
as we started talking, she's like, yo, that's my ex
boyfriend's name. So I was like, so you like combined
you like did like a double whammy, like like just
in case. She was like, that was the that was
the play. Wait it didn't have any numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Yes, yes, it's like three it was John something.

Speaker 7 (01:50:41):
So I when I would like hold her sometimes she
would be like yo, Like I'm like yoah you know
you got to get this like, I'm not I'm not
touching John.

Speaker 6 (01:50:49):
I stopped completely stoped touching outside our body that you
know I'm that. I don't even I never, I don't
even touch that. So touch the other side if you're gonna,
if you're having sex, I go to slap.

Speaker 7 (01:51:00):
Other side out of John's name. I don't even associate
with that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Well, if you don't want to take it off, I
add all your kills on your leg, then just put
for all of the poll the niggas that you've done,
how to side of you, let me know who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
She's gonna borrow the girl. I got the list of
the niggas of the dude.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
The dude.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Oh my god, you're looking up real quick son. She
felt she found a list. Her man found her list.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Nigga that she slept with, that she slept with, rated
out of like she's raiding them, like.

Speaker 6 (01:51:38):
I've been on one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Listens for Caleb.

Speaker 13 (01:51:39):
Caleb has the dude n Caleb has five hundred out
of ten and this dude Caleb commented on the post,
and it was like, yeah, I don't think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
The real Caleb.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
But it was just funny that this dude found the
fuck out it. Bro, I'm fining to post I got posted.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
On my.

Speaker 6 (01:51:57):
Women be Having I've been on a few of the lists.

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
I don't understand. I just I just I don't. I've
said this over and over and over again on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
I just keep it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
But I think that I be in the fact that
I don't own anybody, and I never want to feel
like I do, and I never want to feel like
anybody owns me. There is no conversation like can't nobody
tell me what to do with my body? Like you can't.
And if that's something that you're into, then you have
fun with that. If I cover it up, which I

(01:52:30):
I really have no plans of doing. If I do,
I'm gonna do it because I want to. It don't
bother me, Like I barely remember that it's there until
these conversations pop up like I don't. It's not something
that I look at every day, like it's not on
the forefront of nobody's mind.

Speaker 6 (01:52:46):
I'm keeping that ship on the docket.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Keep it on the docket.

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
That's crazy. Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Sing though, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
My man, my man on his way.

Speaker 14 (01:53:04):
That word, that word ownership, Well, but ask him what
is he okay, am I okay, I know you're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Fun first time I actually first they got to actually
like is everything OKAYI blink twice? Let me know that, nigga. Okay,
you mentioned ownership.

Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
Yeah, I don't own people in the conversation because I
got attacked seriously on Twitter in the conversation revolving the.

Speaker 6 (01:53:36):
You don't never cook for your man and they.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
Were like, it's not my duty to do that, and
I said, if he cares about it, it's your duty.
It is your duty to care about what your partner
cares about. Yes, I agree, right, yeah, okay, So then
why don't you Why can't you say you own a
person owns you in a bit in.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
A way because he doesn't I in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
That's what that ring is.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
But no, that's not that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
What it is for me.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
What you're changing the the that's what the marriage, my
marriage are mind are means ownership.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
You know better than that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:16):
You can loan him out of women all you want,
it's still yours. He has to come on, I don't
own because this is where you stay.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
I don't own nobody. I don't own nobody. I don't
own him.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
He don't own That's good wording. But the purpose of
it is that no, your are mine, I am Yours
is ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
I am giving you me, you are giving you him.
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
I don't agree.

Speaker 12 (01:54:41):
For me.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
This is not a representation of ownership. It's a representation
of family. Like this is a representation of what my family.
This is my family. He is my family name. Eventually
I didn't do the paperworking.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
That's too much, bro, not too much. She got you no.
But eventually she just did it against how she just did.
She said, it's not ownership, it's family.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
It is family because we're because when we do all
have the same list. Because I have to change mine,
I got to change part. It's a lot of changes
an English teacher, remember that mean? Yeah, I'm not fluffing it.
You don't, okay, I can't argue with you. The fact
of the matter is the root of my relationship and
the root of my family is the fact that we wanted,

(01:55:30):
at base root to create our own families. You know,
my family's fucked up. He got his own ship with
his We wanted a bond and to be able to
create the family that we wanted to create. The root
of all of this comes from family. It's not ownership,
it's none of that. It is family.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
That's our cornerstone. The love of our family, the love
of these kids. We are a family, That's what it is.
And we're going to continue to build upon that idea
of the perfect family that we wanted to cultivate. That's
really what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
In the vowels that I stood on the line next
to you as you got.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Married, the same vowels when the bitch said some shit
and I said, I'm not doing that. When I stood
up there in front of my whole family of friends
and she said, you vow to cook breakfast on her
every day and I'm never doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:56:24):
I said that, did I it's hyperbole?

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Yeah, And I said hyperbo I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
I'm not vowing for that.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
When I have an issue as your partner with something
you're doing. Yes, you can't just be like funk out
of here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
I would never say that to him.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
I say that to y'all, But that's what you're trying
to push right now.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
No, I'm not, And that's what I That's what I
was trying to say at the end of the day,
because it's not ownership. Are you I love you so
much that if something ever bothers you, I'm going to
make sure that you're good. That's not ownership. That is love,
That is base root love and respect.

Speaker 6 (01:56:57):
You just changed the word around.

Speaker 5 (01:56:58):
I'm not how it because as much as I understand
what you're saying, it's because.

Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
I owe you hat.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
I owe you that consideration, don't owe an ownership. I
owe you that because you don't bothered by something I'm
doing or the way I'm handling you.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
And I think it's the word. The word. I think
owning the ownership word is bothering. I think it's the word.
It's the word.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Do you understand the purpose of what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:57:24):
No, I know, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
I think these words the word.

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
Words as well to Can you change that for me
because somebody changes because I know I don't like the
word ownership, but it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
Because real quick, I think she's taking the literal meaning
and she's not looking at.

Speaker 6 (01:57:38):
The deeper call back exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
I kind of feel like that's what happened. I think
she's just did the same thing that I did with
the Pierce thing, but the actual it's.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Not I'm actually taking don't do that. I'm actually taking
the deeper meaning no deeper meaning the deeper is.

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
Actually taking the literal definition of ownership, trying to again
fluff it up with trying to make a deeper No, like,
you don't I think that's where he's that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Okay, care, you don't care. Okay, she gets she gets
you there, she gets the people going like, you ain't
gonna tell me. She's like, calm down, because no, that's
not that's not it. That's not my interpretation of it.
If me reading between the lines because we're doing callbacks,
me reading between the lines of what is saying, that
is not what it is. The fact of the matter

(01:58:32):
is the fact that the matter is. It's not about ownership.
It's about love, value and respect. Because at the end
of the day, there are people that are married right
now that hate each other. We just fucking watched the
video of somebody that's married right now and she wouldn't
even cook that nigga a fried egg because she that's
not ownership. She don't value that nigga, she don't respect
that nigga. So she said, fuck you, and I'm telling

(01:58:55):
you that I the way that I move with my
husband is based off of love, value, and respect. It's
not based off of ownership. So if he feel any
type of way about anything, I don't give a fuck
what it is. That is the only nigga that says
jump and I will say how high? Because I value
and respect and love you. And if that ever changes,
my answers will change. Period. Ring still here? What else?

Speaker 6 (01:59:21):
I like it? I think it's just the word you're.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Single too, you said, I'm just asking because I asked
yesterday first, because I just are you single? Are you single?

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:59:32):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Are you single? Cool?

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Yeah? Yes? I know so what you mean? Yes? I know.
I wish. I wish I could pick a woman the
way you could pick your man. I wish.

Speaker 5 (01:59:50):
I think it's way easier to find a woman that
will do the things a man.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
No, for for sure, for sure, I don't. I think
I don't value trol how she does. If that makes sense?
What do you mean? I think? But I don't know anything.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
I'm just assuming, Okay, do it all episodes. I think
you know you got your man exactly what you want him.
That's what it sounds you think that I control him,
not that you control him. I think again, the restrictions
in when you come with the what are the restrictions again?
The not cleaning, not couting into somewhere. Like there's like

(02:00:25):
a ton of things that I've heard throughout this episode. Again,
I'm not judging. I'm just assuming. Like, you have a
man that tolerates a lot from you.

Speaker 6 (02:00:34):
You have a man that accepts a lot of your
untraditional and unconventional ways.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Right, that's but that's acceptance, That's that's choice. Right. I
have a man that I put all of these all
of my flaws, because we all have flaws. Some people
like to hide them. I'm upfront with mine, right, So
I put all my flaws on the table and said,
do you want to accept me for me? Yes or no.
I'm not gonna placate, I'm not gonna lie, and I'm
not gonna manipulate. This is who I am. Imperfect Is

(02:01:00):
that something that is okay with you? And as well
as he takes all of my imperfections, I take all
of his imperfections. But the person that just sat on
his couch and said that if my husband told me
to jump, I will say how high. There is nothing, nothing,
and no one that will ever one come before him.
What he says is the law of my house. And

(02:01:21):
he's not the type of person that he has to
control anything that I do. He allows me to be
the person that I am, and that's why we work.
That nigga, don't play that is not he. Ain't that nigga.
Whatever nigga you think that you put in your head,
erase it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
That ain't him.

Speaker 3 (02:01:38):
It's a good Caribbean man. And he don't play with
none of the bullshit. He's never with the ships. But
he knows who he married, and I know who I married,
and that's why when.

Speaker 6 (02:01:49):
He got married to it was happy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
It was happy.

Speaker 6 (02:01:53):
It wasn't like damn fuck. It was happy that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Much.

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
I can't wait because you cry on a Wednesday, so
I can't wait till when you get married.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
I might cry the other way though she's not in it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
They saying that what they say, Yeah, they say a lot,
they say a lot. All right, it's.

Speaker 6 (02:02:16):
Been let's about two hours.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
I did have one more that's not gonna make it
to next week?

Speaker 1 (02:02:22):
Can do y'all mind? Just one more topic and then
were out of here?

Speaker 6 (02:02:26):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:02:26):
One more topic and were out of here. And it
ain't really nothing crazy it is. A woman said I'm
gonna wait till dodge. I'm gonna have her attention here.

Speaker 6 (02:02:45):
Damn did you no?

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:02:47):
No no.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
He texted me like an hour ago asking if he
wanted them to start getting ready, but I missed it.

Speaker 5 (02:02:52):
A young lady on the internet tweeted being black sucks,
Like why do I have to refrain from posting my lover?

Speaker 6 (02:03:07):
OMG?

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
What with being black?

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Where? How you consuming all this content?

Speaker 6 (02:03:13):
Bro? What I do?

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
Brain rot?

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
What brain rot?

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
What you call it? Doom scrolling? Do I do scrow?

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
I doom scroll all the time. But that's when you
just like laying there and.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
You're just scrolling for like hours, consuming.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
But I consume funny shit. When I doom scroll, It'd
be like I'll be in a bad cracking the fuck up.
I don't look at ship like that.

Speaker 6 (02:03:36):
You think so you think that this is nothing? That
tweet is nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:41):
The way our culture is you can't do ship, whereas
other cultures have the freedom to do whatever the fuck
other skin cults?

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
What does that mean? Whatever the fuck?

Speaker 6 (02:03:50):
I don't agree I'm not rolling with that. You don't agree.

Speaker 4 (02:03:54):
I don't think it's a black thing. I don't like,
are you in tune with other cultures to know like
the validity behind that statement? No, exactly, And I think
I think most I think most black people we It's
like when we learned what certain slurs were from when
we did the slur conversation here, Like you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
Tall, how I reacted ignorantly to like learning that chinky
was a slur, and like I look and said, well,
you said it out loud exactly. That's my point though,
you see how Like to me, it's not like it
doesn't register that way. It's the same thing. But in
other cultures it does. It's the same thing with us.

Speaker 4 (02:04:28):
I think we we magnify everything that we're in and
it doesn't that that statement doesn't make sense to me
because I went to a super diverse school, like being black,
My school at the time was like super minority.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
I watched everybody grow. That is a common thing of
our like generation.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
It's a thing like not posting your man. If you
watch whether you watch Love and Hip Hop or you
watch Real Highs Wives, the white one, same dynamic, different
skin tone. So just and and I think I get
triggered heavy because I'm like, no, if you guys knew
how much much more we had in common with these
other cultures. The thing is we care enough to have
these conversations and bring attention to that that has nothing

(02:05:07):
to do with being black, bro them Arabs, the white people,
like my Russian people's the same type of way. Like
a black man and a Russian man. If we blind
for each other, we don't see each other, we'll have
the same type of conversation. Look at women the exact
same way, look at these type of situations the exact
same way. Now for the older traditional people, completely different dynamic.
But we're talking about like you know us that you know,

(02:05:29):
people who are still in the space again you know,
dating or being married or you know, indulging these conversations.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
We're all going to have the same perspective no matter
what skin tone of color we are.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
I agree, I think that the problem is calm down, dad,
we ended on a good noses down. It's not a
twenty year old. Absolutely, I need my Brooklyn veteran jacket

(02:06:00):
it right now.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
These little youngest be violent.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
But no, I agree, I don't think that that has
anything to do with being black. I think that that
has everything to do with We live in a society
where people think that secrecy is important and it's really not.
The reason why people don't post people is because you're
afraid that somebody known them, somebody fucked him, or somebody's

(02:06:26):
fucking him right now. You just don't want to be embarrassed.
So that's why you have like this air of secrecy,
like I can't post the person that I'm dating, or
the flip side, you don't want to post the person
that you're dating because when you start posting a person
that you're dating or your other prospects kind of go
out the window. So it's just an air of secrecy
where people are just like or you could do that,

(02:06:46):
or you're afraid that somebody else is going to try
to go get them, Like it's just it's childish, to
be very honest, it's really really childish. Or you might
be a little bit embarrassed of the person that you're with,
Like you might know that your ex look better than
your new nigga. You won't want to post that because
the niggas is gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
And oh what.

Speaker 6 (02:07:05):
People that are just not into that. But why but
this is this is not but this is not something
that's like this is this is not something that has
existed the whole time. This is like a new thing.
So like you're saying, like, why, this is not something
that we have to do.

Speaker 3 (02:07:18):
No, it's not. I feel like when people have social
media and post on social media to have like these
these moments of like I post this, but I won't
post that because I don't believe in it. Why you
want hear it? Anyway? The whole purpose of this is
to share aspects of your life. And if you have

(02:07:38):
a person that is important in your life and you're
hiding that conveniently hiding it and doing it under the
guise of I just don't do that, you being shady. No,
you're being shady. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:07:52):
I think to his point, I think he's saying, like
most people that are into that usually are into like
showing that other aspects of their lives.

Speaker 3 (02:07:59):
Right, But if you do, then you're a hypocrite, because
there are some people that do they what if.

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
I if I just want to post my fishing videos,
I don't have to post me But.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
That's not but that's not that right, that's something completely different,
like if your page is curated towards a hobby, no,
I don't expect to see your friends and your family.
But if your page is curated about your life and
you fucking in the club every week and you got
your reels up and you hear you there and you
posted everybody in your life except for that one person
you being, and that's all I'm saying. And I feel

(02:08:34):
like a lot of the people that use that as
an excuse, like, oh, I don't purse my personal business, nigga,
you posted your location while you were there. It don't
get more personal to that. Like if somebody wants to
find you right now, they know exactly where you at,
But you won't post your girlfriend, You're being shady.

Speaker 5 (02:08:52):
And people post where they at, their food, everything, what
they're wearing, what they're driving, their dog, all types shit,
all their friends, the post random they post all that ship,
And those are the ones that won't post a niggas. Yeah,
those are the ones that's all over the place and
they do all of this other ship and won't post agg.

Speaker 4 (02:09:10):
About being posted. This man care about being posted like that.

Speaker 6 (02:09:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (02:09:15):
Me personally, I don't care because I want to engaged,
like if she never did it, yeah, I would care.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
Yeah, I want to. I want to. I'm more of
like the again me being young. I'm not.

Speaker 4 (02:09:25):
I don't got nobody right now. I'm seriously so like
I like posting attractive women that I'm with or like.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
But you also know that they're gonna attract other women. Yeah,
so for me it's Scott, I don't ready care for
you to post me because.

Speaker 6 (02:09:39):
Like it takes away from you then ship it does
you know that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
It's like, I don't I used to want to be
the nigga that I used to want to be.

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
I'm good because you're letting her post you on your ship.
That takes away from you.

Speaker 4 (02:09:51):
Now you got unless you you gotta be like really
one of them ones, like if you like one of
them ones.

Speaker 5 (02:09:56):
Like that, I know the girls like oh yeah, the
girls bragging about him, oh yeah, like other women.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
It's it's like we've got to be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
One of the ones to really post you where it's like,
oh no, the girls watch you, like like if I
was to be with that's a big influence. Let's notart
with Kylie Jenner. Yea Kylie post me bitch like you
know what I'm saying, like like, yeah, you feel me.
But if it's just like you know, because I'm big
on Is you good?

Speaker 6 (02:10:25):
I'm big on ya.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
Are you good?

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
You're not good? You're not good?

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm just. I'm just. I'm big. I like,
I like, I like.

Speaker 4 (02:10:37):
I like the women with a good career, you feel me?
The ones that look like to look at certain people.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
I don't care. You posted how much I used to.

Speaker 5 (02:10:43):
Yo, Malcolm main ain't wrong and y'all missed that whole ship. Now,
being black does suck. Sometimes you haven't to worry about
your every interaction ending and you're potentially dying.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
But that's a different conversation. That is not what that
person sweeted.

Speaker 3 (02:10:55):
Yeah, we're talking about just.

Speaker 4 (02:10:57):
And I want to get into that conversation this episode
because I'm going side to interact with a bunch of
black people today.

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
I need no time. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 6 (02:11:05):
I'm about to go strip naked on the on the stage.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
What listen, what are you doing? The game?

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
Is the game?

Speaker 5 (02:11:16):
What do you mean I'm going on stage? Uh So
it needs to be studied podcasts this afternoon, this evening,
and I'm wilding out. I'm using my sex machine and everything. Okay, yes,
you're coming to the show.

Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
Yeah, I got about you're getting.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
They know what.

Speaker 6 (02:11:37):
I try to make sure who city is? Who is right?

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
What are you talking about right here?

Speaker 6 (02:11:43):
You know what I mean? Give me no, it's not happening.
I'm about to leave in an hour to go in
the city. Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
It was a great episode. Y'all are okay out there? Everybody?
I know people are like arguing with who is this guy?

Speaker 12 (02:12:02):
So she.

Speaker 1 (02:12:06):
Controls the way?

Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
This is the Angie lo Lo on Instagram and TikTok,
I believe, but show on TikTok, right, it's Angie Lolo
on TikTok and talk that s h H three h
h media media on Instagram and TikTok. So well, I

(02:12:28):
just she was running my TikTok and my personal okay
number yo, great conversations.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
How y'all good with each other?

Speaker 6 (02:12:35):
Y'all all right.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
After the show? We're not even in the same generation.

Speaker 3 (02:12:41):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
That's the thing. That's the thing, yo. I'll let you
know where I'm at ten years unless.

Speaker 6 (02:12:51):
I see you tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:12:53):
It's so shameless

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