Why Is Tahoe Like This??? (Part One)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
what I'm saying socialhamous, so shameless, so so so shameless.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
If you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Shameless, If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if
you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
About it live and direct.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, let's talk about everything. Am I allowed to talk freely?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Are you allowed to talk freely? I thought this is
not talking this podcast like you say, make sure.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I just want to make sure that I'm allowed to
talk freely. Join the show, and you're not gonna be like, no,
you can't do that. Are you good? I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't know what's about to happen exactly, I.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Think, yes, Nos, I'm pretty sure he doesn't. He has
no idea whatsoever, nothing, nothing. How y'all feeling. How you're feeling?
You're great? Great? What? I haven't seen you in a month?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It has not been.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I have not seen you since May twenty third, it is,
that's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I did one episode after we got back, Yes, I did.
I did one with the Divina the lady.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, right, yeah, I haven't seen you. I feel like
i've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
You where on.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I feel like i've seen you because I've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
What are we doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Can I be in there? That's nasty, it's nasty.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
What are we doing today?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
What I alone? I love I love trying. I'm not
trying to do that. I just wanted to know why
you ain't pull up, I ain't come. I don't know
if that's an ordinary conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It was a deep rooted conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I don't it's deep rooted. But you know that's her.
Let's start over. Let's start over. See. I don't want
I don't want to. I don't want to do too much.
If I didn't know it was gonna be like that, No, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Not a deep rooted It might be a miscommunication between
me and Dodge. And I didn't know if it was
a sore subject, so I just didn't bring it up.
It might be totally my fault, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We're here now. What happened?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
You asked me about DJ, and I was like, yeah,
that would be my gift to you, DJ for free.
But then you said that I have to reserve my
room with a credit card, right, I was all right,
I was like, you know, typically a guest gets you know,
I've done a lot of destination when it typically the

(03:13):
couple gets a couple of free rooms, and that's what
they would a lot for the DJ. And so when
you originally told me about put my credit card down,
I didn't realize how expensive room.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
So I didn't.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
But I did tell you how I felt about it.
And then I thought that you took how I felt
about it and went in a different direction not to
have me DJ.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But you also didn't come.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't come.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
So I didn't know if I was invited as a
DJ or invited a guest. It's two different things. I
never got an invitation.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I want to start over.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Wait, I never got an invitation. I get an invitation,
I don't know. I don't look at the emails. So
isn't that two different things? Like to be invited to
attend a wedding versus t DJ wedding. If I don't
get if it doesn't work out, as far as me spinning,

(04:16):
I'm not gonna just assume that I'm gonna invited guests.
You are like a very small intimate, very small number of.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Guests, like, well, no, so several things happened here. One
thing that happened was I remember from when me and
Drew like first got together, and we not first got together,
but first like thinking about talking about marriage and stuff
like that. I remember saying, when I get married, Tromp,
I want you to DJ, and I think I said,

(04:42):
I want you to book the violinists.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
For me pineapples. It was something.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Because it was something like I was like, everybody, do
everybody gonna do something right? And then I sent you
the RSVP link for the room, which was a year
in advance of everything. And then you went to the
link and I think I was sending reminders out to
everybody that was invited to the wedding, and you went

(05:10):
to the link and you said something to the effect
of like like I'm gonna call you, We're gonna talk
about it or whatever. And then you said like, oh,
I didn't know that you switched it to d R,
And I'm like, yeah, we switched it to DR because
it's too expensive in New York. I do vaguely remember
this conversation, but that was your invitation for you to
come to the wedding, not for you to DJ the wedding.

(05:32):
For two years, you never said ship for two years, quiet,
be quiet. So for two years you you always thought
that you were not invited to the wedding that I
invited you to.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I thought, because when you sent me the invitation, that's
when we were talking about me DJ, so I would
make sense to send me the link so I have
the information.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I did. It's in the text. So all you had
to do was put down one hundred dollars deposit on
the room. Because even if that was the situation and
you wanted a free room, which we did have free rooms.
If that's something that you we did, but that's another situation.
That's another situation. But even if that's the situation, you
would have still had to put down one hundred dollars

(06:15):
for that room to hold the block, and then you
would have got it back later.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
They were asking for like fifteen hundred that was there
or something.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It was one hundred dollars, Trom.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Maybe I had the wrong rink.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It was one hundred dollars, and then you pick whatever
room you want and you pay it off over a year.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Trom. Did you feel the way that you felt that
she wasn't invited. No, No, that was a bad questioning.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
No, when I said that I feel the way, like
I said, it was what you had like forty fifty guests.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like I can see forty two.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I considered DOJ a friend I consider a really good friend.
But I don't think I'm one of her forty closest friends,
like you know what I mean. So if it's something
that I didn't feel the ways about.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Not getting should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's not that I started this conversation by saying it's
not dodg as for it's.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Probably minding her. Now, why nobody had the convo? Why
nobody responsibility for that?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Why don't wait? What convo? What is the convo that
has to be at because anybody did not first? That's
crazy that that sounds crazy. That sounds like something that
you wouldn't even do if you invited, because honestly, we
started at fifty I'm coming off. If we started at
fifty people, and I invited fifty people, and I sent

(07:36):
out the link for fifty people with detailed text messages
on what to do, and then sent out reminders to
fifty people, I'm supposed to also back send out are
you coming? Are you coming? Are you what did I
do the mouse?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You ain't until I didn't say shit.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I didn't say shit because if you come and you're coming,
if you're not coming, you're not come. I'm not going
to beg anybody to come.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
In a room with him every fucking week. Me you, yes, No,
we all sit in the same room. It's not you going.
We all sit in the same room every week.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
But he's not the only one. He's not the only
one that pulled some last minute shit. And I don't
feel like it's my responsibility. They guess to come. It's like,
if you were coming, you were coming. If I'm not coming,
you're not coming. Clarifying the clarification for me is if
you secured your room, that's when I know that you're coming.
But it was only one hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So this is what question I have for Trump, because
I would have felt away in your in your position,
I would have felt the way you felt knowing. Okay,
say me and her are closer, right, you close? Were cool,
but you know she's picking people to be in this
small group, whatever it may be. You're asking me to
perform a service. Now that service is kind of up

(08:49):
in the air. We're not sure. I'm not sure if
I would have pressed the well me, I'm a dickhead,
so I'm pressing in it. So I'm not invited if
I don't DJ, I would have said that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
But he was inviting before the DJ conversation came up.
And that's the part that I'm confused about because we
didn't speak about the DJ conversation until like three weeks
after I initially invited you.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't see I didn't realize the timeline difference.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, because we don't speak that often. So I text
you twenty twenty fourth, the immediate That was the immediate
invitation to the wedding website for the RSVP. Then I
text you back May fourth Then I text you back
May fourteenth. You answered me May fourteenth. We had a

(09:38):
phone call, but you was always invited.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, and that's why I said, like, this is not
like some HOMEI court thing. We don't need receipts. I
totally take responsibility for not being aggressive because I always
take it like I don't want to impose myself on
somebody as a DJ. So if there are certain things
that don't give follow up on as a DJ. Sometimes

(10:02):
I just assume that you might go in a different direction,
and I'm the last person. Very what's the word for
opposite of aggressive?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Passive aggressive?

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I'm not passive aggression. I'm just I am, but not
to say but not in this situation. I just wasn't
aggressive as far as following up.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
With you January of this year. I've never had a DJ, okay,
so I just.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Kind of wanted to see what direction you wanted to
go in, right, So I kind of just let things
played out when I should have been more communicating.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Communicative, You don't you don't like confrontation. It was a
source of of it. Sounds like it was. It was
uncomfortable not knowing the DJ part, So you kind of
just let that control the whole situation.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I guess, Yeah, One, I don't like confrontation, but I
also want don't want to put anybody, especially if it's
your wedding, in a position where you have to be
confrontational with me, you know what I mean? Like some
people make a decision without being like, hey, we're going
in a different direction. So if nobody contacts me, sometimes
I just assume you're going in a different direction. But
I shouldn't have done that with my friend, you know

(11:06):
what I mean. So that's where I could take responsibility for.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
M How do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
And me not attending is totally tied to me that
DJing because I didn't realize that I actually had an
invite to be there regardless, you know what I mean,
And that's me assuming as well. I'll take responsibility for that.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Some shits you gotta be confrontational about though a wedding.
Mm hmm. You gotta be confrontation nigga, whatever to see
where it is cock, whatever it is. I'm being confetational
about being at my friend's wedding. What you heard somebody
saying he's a cock? That's cool, but that's also I've

(11:54):
been around gay people all week.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Give me space to be like, Hey, I'm I invite.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm pulling up. Should I be invited? I'm saying, I'm
pulling up?

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Can I be invited to your wedding? Like that's awkward.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I'm saying, I'm not asking, yo, I'm pulling up, Yo,
I'm pulling up out the country, nigga.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Why are you always out the country. I think that's
the part that that really bugged me out. I'm like,
you're always out the country, You're always going somewhere. So
I didn't understand like the r made it impact.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
The yard didn't make an impact for me. I'm just
talking about maybe for you logistically, like you can't just
have a certain number of.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Somebody without it. That's we talked about that on the show,
and that was an issue. Somebody showed up without a
room gate and we had to figure out how to
get this person without a risk band.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But this is what I'm saying, right, there were so
many that's nuts. It was, it was, it was, it was.
It was a little bit a lot, but there were
like so many like nuances of things that happened and
transpired that was not along with the plan of what
I said. But it's still like it was very much
like Niggas was like, Yo, I said, I'm coming. You

(13:03):
know I'm coming. I'm like, but you, I don't have
you on no email.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Mouse coming.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I did not know Mouse was coming until a week
before and he literally was like, but I've been told
you I was coming. I said, Nigga, you don't have
no nameplate. You don't have no plate like I'm just
gonna throw you at a table at this point. But
then Will did the same thing. Niggas had trail, niggas
had no paper like. Will was just like, I know,
I realized that I'm miscommunicated and I didn't tell you

(13:27):
that I'm coming, but I'm coming, And I was like, nigga,
I will drown you. He told me this a month before.
So I don't know. I just feel like, after us
speaking about it literally every week for a year, you
never said nothing like never, Like I just thought that
you didn't want to go.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Awkward, like you know, if somebody goes in a different
creative direction, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
But I didn't need to provide you as a DJ.
I invited you as a friend and then you are
a DJ, so I was going to utilize your talents
to save me coin.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
To be fair, this history of us doing stuff and
you're not inviting him, No, it's not you had a birthday?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
What birthday party? He didn't come to birthday? Which one
he's been at birthday parties? Which birthday party of mind?
Did he not? Was he not invited to?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Last year?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Something?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That was last year?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
That was after? Don't invite the wedding. Oh that's tough.
So if it was me, I would be like, well,
maybe I'm not in the personal space where to just
pop in as a friend.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Years. I don't think that's right because chat.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
But you do want to just pull up if you know,
if lines are drawn.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Lines are drawing, I might.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I'm just saying to what he's singing. Now it makes
sense for them to be like, well, okay, there is
a certain circle that she would do certain stuff with.
Maybe I'm not maybe not in the mix. That's what
which is crazy?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Did you before the conversation you literally liked the message.
We had a conversation a month later. How did one
equal one plus one equal to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You should have been talking to day because my memory
ain't the best. She handled now you can't.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You can't do that because you knew you had to
talk to You had to talk today. You knew you
had to talk to to.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I have today's number, I speak to today.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I'm not saying that like as in you should have
meaning like you made a mistake, meaning like I should
have made that connection, like that should have been what
would have made this happen. You're really good. I'm right there,
I mean right when I You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is a very wedding over.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Who's paying for that? I first of all, I almost
canceled the one I threw. I'm not doing that ship again.
I don't even like y'all. And this is the reason
why I don't want to do the shit again, because
of these little nuances of things and people having little
feelings about things that I don't know about, and I
have to be conscious of and reach out to and
talk to like everybody's on drugs.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I'm not looking forward to that shit.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
We know.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Am I invited? I'm not invited because we're not friends.
I don't have nothing to off of. I have no
talent for you.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll be clear with y'all right now.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm probably chance I'm gonna get married with none of
y'all present, But we'll have a party celebration at some point.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
What are you doing? What are you doing? Probably just
go to Vegas and it just be so who's going
with you? It'll you know, if you bring anybody else
besides her and your kid, i'mnna be tight.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You should be.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
You already asked me to be your best man. You're
not telling me that you're gonna go out there with
another set of friends or something else happening, and I'm
not invited. I'm telling you right now. And that's the
confrontation that you're supposed to have.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
If it's anybody other than just the two of us,
it'll be immediate family, kids, parents, brother.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, you're not in that mix.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Is he's he's hovering, he's like in that mix, you
know what I mean, like the only non relative. It's fine,
but when we do an actual party celebration in New Orleans,
y'all looking to get.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
The invite for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we got to fly to New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
We had to fly to the R Yeah that's further
than New Orleans. It's problem. We had to fly to
the R passports.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I want you, no, look at me because you turn it. No,
I want you to look I want you to look
at meybody, I want you to look at me. I
want you to stop playing. That's what I want you
to do.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Did you see the episode with Drew? Oh yeah, you
was in the chat. I knew you was hot over there.
I would say, how you married? Why is she the
one you chose to You was like, hey, yo, you good.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like, are you Are you all right? Because the way
that you're a pie?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
What? What did I do?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Nothing? You know, I've been working on myself, y'all.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You look really nice today and I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So unbothered and non triggered, and I'm proud of myself.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I do want to say this, Do y'all understand it's
a misunderstanding that feelings were hurt. I would assume that
his feelings was hurt in some capacity, even though he's
saying that it wasn't, because I don't see how you
could be like, okay, yeah, going to get married and
all right, maybe I just didn't make the list my well,
maybe you just don't have feelings. Because I have feelings.
I would have felt like, wow, you know that when

(18:40):
Silky got married, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
I was sick. I was sick.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I might still be sick.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I understand that. And it was a little different because that, No,
it was different more so like you being sick. Understandably,
not to poor soul thro in the wounds. But he
had like a couple hundred guests. Dodge had a small
intimate gathering. So for me to not make that I

(19:06):
can understand that, like between family and friends, I'm not
in the tight, tight, close knit group. I'm friends.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You thought about it. You thought about this. I didn't
think about it. And with you, you already got your
story down pack, and I just it's not a story
of the same what happened. It's not a story. I
didn't mean it.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I clearly thought about it. I overthink things, which is
probably what got me in this position in the first place.
I overthink. So I'm not gonna say I didn't think
about it, but I never felt the ways about it.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's peace overthinking it. Saying that in the same type
of way like I didn't. That means there was some
emotion there. There was something there. When you overthinking something,
you're processing. Why not me, Dodgia. Honestly, I was next
to you, I'm not. What I'm trying to do is

(20:05):
say that he actually kid enough, he wanted to be there,
but he felt that he was overlooked.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Saying no, yes, you're no, I feel him. I felt
the same way.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes, yo, Just you wait a minute. You call him
your faith.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
He is my faith. And if I would have known
him when I invited everybody a year and change ago,
he would have been on the list.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
You wouldn't have asked him to do nothing. He's running
the switchboy behind the video camera.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
No, because the thing is like even one of my
homeboys that is a photographer that was there. I told him.
I was just like, yo, you know you're taking extra pictures, right,
like bring your camera, do your fucking job. At one point,
Mouse got on the mic. He was supposed to be
the MC, but I didn't know that he was coming,
so I had to book an MC. I didn't know
until the last minute, like he was originally supposed to

(20:57):
MC the whole thing, like everybody was going, that's your
gift to me. Help me, nigga, this shit is expensive.
But you know, I feel a way I'm breathing, cam,
I'm shilling.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I feel a way. I feel a way you feel away.
It's been a while since we've been here. Chaos has
been it's been very peaceful. I don't like it. It's
been very peaceful.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I need to drink right now.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I want some of that forty two.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I need something because niggas why you.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Don't understand the story? What you don't understand his story?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, I don't. Traum is not the person I don't understand.
I need a drink.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I'm assuming that arrow is pointed in my Directionion, what
did I do?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't know why you want this show to be
like Daddies or something like. You just want us to
like be in here at each other's throats.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's been very peaceful.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It has I love peace. This is why I don't
believing in my house, because my house is peaceful.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
It's a disruptor. H I'm a disruptor, coventual line stepper,
Asian chaos they call agent of chaos. I do want
to do a little Homie court here. I think everybody
in here has been touched today besides one person yesterday.

(22:25):
How are you feeling today? I'm feeling good. I want
to know if you do. We have homcore music. No,
we're just gonna leave alone everybody, y'all know the Homy
court music, like somebody can dodge a drink? Please? Yesterday?
My friend? I love you, bro, you know that, right?

(22:46):
I love you too. You're nervous? Never Yeah, why you
be lying so much? Bro? I never lie? Stop? Never
stop putting that you know we talked about.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Stop stop using your family equity to create equity.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
What is a family equity?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Because you're my cousin, my older cousin. People view you
like you have a certain level of ins.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You're not going to bust open my bottle of forty two.
I just got this bottle, bro, It's a fucking collector's item.
She comes in the room like, Yo, you got Oh
it's not open. There's some whiskey on the counter in Slovakia.
Oh wow, it's not for you. Pop that yeah? Word gosh, yeah,

(23:28):
pop that ship? Pop? What that? That that rose? Now
you can't pop the rose?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
What?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
She's a broad?

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah she was Now she's just yeah whatever.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It's my first time. This is the first time World
three of us together, so it's kind of like a
congratulationsis did you get a gift?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm just saying, yo, just if you didn't, you didn't
pop up huh with a black you can't. We can't
have champagne and you don't call cha use wine glasses.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
What's the difference?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Elegance? The difference is elegance. And my champagne flutes are
fucking crystal. I'm not bringing those out for just anything.
This is from yesterday. Here's the thing, Bro, I already
spoke to you about it, but I've seen you did
it again, and the ship is the shit is is

(24:33):
is frustrating. You're gonna drink a whole bottle of fucking
uh d. I'll take a little bit, Yeah, send some
of it. Fuck it. I got another recording soon, but
sending something yo. Yeah, they calling you by your birth
name in here. I don't understand, like what's good yesterday?

(24:56):
Which is part of He's part of the team, right,
he it's almost imperative for him to be here. His
voice is necessarily He's made his voice a character on
both shows. Right, So as I'm scheduling either show, we're
all telling each other when we're available. Okay, following, I

(25:19):
have a text from yesterday. He already knows where this
is going. Yes, say you know where this is going.
I have no idea, how a feeling? He had no idea.
I have a text from yesterday. I work tomorrow and Sunday,
but I can do Sunday. I just got to be

(25:40):
out at three or four. Yeah. What does that say
to you? Interpret that text? Work? I work tomorrow and Sunday,
but I can do Sunday. I just got to be
out by three or four.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
So it sounds like he works on Sunday, but he
has to work either early or and you has time constraints.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
He has time constraints because what because of work? Because
he has to I work tomorrow and Sunday, but I
can do Sunday. I just got to be out by
three or four. What does that say to you, dosh,
that he has to work whatever? I don't care. I'm

(26:23):
not drinking all of that. All right, what's yours? So
he doesn't work on Sunday? I call him Sunday? Yoh,
what's up? What's up? Big bro? It was good? No,
we were at many crib. Don't you said you have
to work to work? I said, Bro, you literally said

(26:49):
you had to work yesterday and today. He's like, nah,
I just had to do my laundry yesterday. You're here,
you have a mic, you can speak up when you
cook you. I said, but Bro, you literally said you
have to work yesterday and today. What do you mean

(27:10):
you have to do your laundry? That's that's work? Now?
He said, that's work. He said, that's work. I said, Bro,
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a second to act
like you ain't just pull the wool over our eyes
and act like you did you had to work because
you didn't want to come outside. He said, I misspoke.

(27:32):
You don't. That's not a misspeak, is it?

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Me?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Is that a misspeak?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm always on Yesterday's side. I don't have nothing for it.
To me.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You used work to get out of a court on Sunday?
Anybody in here? All right?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Sound like a regular job to me?

Speaker 3 (27:48):
First things? First things, First, n made up.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
An excuse to not come to work. But the fuck
is wrong with that?

Speaker 5 (27:52):
But if he goes back and read the text, I
said clearly that I can work on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I never said that I couldn't work. I just have
to leave by certain times. This is true. He also
said he had to work, yes, And I said to you,
when did you have to work?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I didn't have to work technically, but I had other
things to do.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I had work to do.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I had other work to get done. What was the
other work?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Scroll down on the chat.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
What was the other work? What was the other work?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
First of all, First of all, I had to do
my regular laundry. I had to do my sock laundry.
I had to clean my room.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Wait, yesterday, this friend, this is a come on, yo,
I'm always on your side. Bro, I'm not pouring nothing
for you, nigga, it's like nothing.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
She just really diddy like that. It's fine, yes, fine,
sock laundry all right.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
So as y'all know, I have the best game of
all time. That's a part of my style. I've been
doing this for a decade, right. So I literally have
over three four hundred pairs of socks. So when I
go to wash clothes, I cannot wash all my socks
at one time. I have to do three four months
intervals at a time.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Where do you keep three hundred pairs of socks? But
because yo, I don't know, maybe you fold them really well.
But I have a problem with fucking forty T shirts?
So where do you keep three hundred pair of matter
of fact, we do you keep three hundred pair of
dirty socks? What do you talk?

Speaker 5 (29:40):
It sucks quarterly not quarterly. I try to do like
I said, I try to do three four month intervals.
So I'll do like sixty ninety or like one twenty
at a time.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I try to. But if I do one twenty, that
means that means that I'm washing socks all day. But
I was holding my nose to you, guys, I'm not
ninety dirty socks smells crazy?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
How come you don't just wash your socks with the
rest of your clothes.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's too much, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I mean, like if you had like a week or
two worth of dirty laundry socks included.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Nah, you can't put the feet juice with the good
T shirts. I'm not really a fan of that juice,
the feet juice?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Does it getting worse? It because I ain't even go
way there yet. But what the man is saying, what
about your boxes? Do you wash those feet juice and
butt juice? N I do.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I do the boxes with the tank tops. I do
my T shirt separately. And then it's the sock laundry.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Do you have a you have a washing and dryer
in your unit?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
All right? All right? I don't all right, hold on, everybody,
nobody answer a question. Please.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I was going to separate laundry bags and you be
going to the laundry mat, and like this is for socks.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
This what is for d the T shirt?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
A washing machine in my house, I drove them at
the laundry mat. Cheers, So so you listen. I'm not
mad at the organization. It sounds very organized.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
What do you want me to do? I have to like,
you don't want me to like? Honestly, no, no, honestly
tell them what am I supposed to do? I'm supposed
to do.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
I'm supposed to do two hundred, three hundred at a time,
just take a whole day.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
But yes, it.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
No, because three hundred pairs of socks should not be
dirty at the same time.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
They're not. That's a year worth of socks, bro, they're not.
There's three hundred and sixty five days in a year.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
But you have to remember, I get new socks every month.
I get at least six to ten pairs of new
socks every month.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Are you at a sock subscription?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah? All right, so you wash the new socks before
you wear. No, the new socks I just wear. Okay,
I'm trying. It's just not. It's not because there's seven
days in a week, fourteen days, two weeks, like you
can't wash fourteen pair of socks with your clothes and

(32:00):
then where do you keep the socks? But fine, fine
or fine two days like this does sound like hard
work figuring out how many socks and you know how
much organizing sixty to three hundred. You got to put together.
I have to do.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I have to do them in sections because I have
certain types, so I might it's like I'll do I
have Marvel, or I have Disney, or I got TV
shows or movies or whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
You have the tism? Say it again, you have the tism?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
No, yo, you sure he has? He has. That's just
part of my style.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like no, I'm not talking about the style. I'm talking
about the meticulous organization. Do you watch, like, all right,
today's Marvel day. I'm going to watch the Marvel socks
and then I.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Try to keep them together because sometimes I lose them,
like I lose track of certain like or certain socks
I don't wear for years because they be like lost
in the abyss. So I roughly rotate like this, like
one hundred or one hundred and fifty pair because certain
pairs I just don't I'm not able to get to them.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So what you do with the other socks that you
don't wear, you haven't worn for a long time, they
just sit around and like collect ust.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean they're in the I draw somewhere or bag.
I feel like, yes, it's good.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Like he kind of diverted his attention away from the
lie because the sock conversation got really interested.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
But I'm still on the line. We know, we know
you waited. I'm just waiting right.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yesterday. You know I'm always on your side, friend, That's what.
That's all I can say.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Well, you can say there because he did it again.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's a repeat.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
He doesn't even know that he did it again. But
I just peep shit and I ain't say nothing. Let
me hear this after him and I had this conversation, right,
he's telling me about the sock game. He's telling me
that we had a whole other conversation. He wounded up
coming me out to the beach, him, I and they
wound up being out there till damn near the next day,
sweet to god, eleven o'clock, and I was beautiful with Serene,

(33:48):
great time. Right, I have several group chats with all
of you guys. Right, I'm so shameless. Want my hardest
saw him and I speak on the side. Right. A
lot of shit going on to move aparts. I'm watching
as we try to figure out and hardest of off
when we're recording for this week. Yesterday, it's my last

(34:16):
two days of work Monday, and Wednesday. I don't get
off till seven those days. Tuesdays one hundred, so I'm
not coming outside. So anything from Thursday on is good
with me. I'm gonna repeat just for everybody to get clarity. Yesterday,
can you hear me? You got the headphones on that.
I want to make sure that you can hear me.
It's my last two days of work, Monday and Wednesday.

(34:40):
I don't get off until seven those days. Monday comes,
it is three fifty seven pm. Courtney sends us a
message Yesterday, responds my fault. I'm just getting off. But

(35:01):
I agree with Tahoe about what we were talking about.
But it's three fifty seven. We normally re caught it five.
It's three fifty seven. Let me go back to the
original message. It's my last two days of work, Monday
and Wednesday. I don't get off until seven those days.

(35:23):
What happened? He had group to laundry after work.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Clearly there's more more than one work, right, there's one
and one.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Thing that falls on the cutgry now because he doesn't
after school program. He works with rock Can I say this?
He works with Rock Nation?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Oh yeah, you're done at lum Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, so he has. He has a few things. He
has a bunch of hats. As a matter of fact,
he's been highly awarded. This is his first year, so
graduations to him. He's highly awarded by the schools with
his first year, being involved in school so much that
they giveing them promotions and they have like his whole
plan for him to excel. So congrats to you.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Come on's the house.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Congrats to you. Appreciate it. I hope they don't know
how much you lie. I hope they never find out. Okay,
so he stays till seven. We know on certain days
that he can't get out because he says, so seven,

(36:26):
am I right? Yesterday? True? What exactly happened here? Okay?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
He was off the main but not the side.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
No, no, no, no, what happened was and so I
planned to stay for overtime until seven on Monday. That
was my original plan. However, there's somebody that's retiring at
the job. So they was like, yo, you know this
is their last you know, this is their last hurrah.
So she's like mis normous, like, yo, staying you know,
anybody want to leave early?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yah? And go ahead?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Me.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I jumped on the opportunity when she asked that because
she leaves early and we stay late. That's why I
usually stay late, because she doesn't stay and other people
don't stay.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So when she.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Offered, I took it really okay, you do see, I
understand how I understand.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I get how it looks. I'm sitting there looking like yo. Changes.
It changes every day. Ye. No, especially was triggering when
I called you and you was in the crib, like,
what what you mean? I didn't have to work today?
Then the next day, the very next day, because remember
that happened Sunday. It was Monday the next time it happened,

(37:35):
and I'm like, nah, no way, no fucking way. This
nigga just said he's on his way out of there.
We could have recorded at five today.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
What you don't understand sometimes is this is another job
and sometimes niggas don't be want to come to work.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Bro, I understand that I said that to you last week.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
No, I was down last week.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
It was down bad.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Last week, I was down bad. I was down like
adjacent nigga.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You're hitting us at two in the morning, Yo, I
don't know if I'm gonna make it in the morning.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
The stomach virus like a mother.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Coughed in the text like texting, I could have.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Stay at home, but I wasn't finna travel like that.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
You're a while in But then you guys all agree
to do virtual, right, and I was like, I'm not
beef for that. I'm not coming to work in virtual.
I'm taking the deal. It happens, happened doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you something right now to
your face. If we record on a ninety degree day,
I'm not coming here unless it's the nighttime.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I don't mind whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Okay, it's hot as a bitch in here.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Hot you have a knitted yeah, because it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
That it's not that hot outside. It's a little breeze.
And I'm like, yo, I figured a little sweater dress
would be pert freckly fine. It's a short little sweater dress.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
But no, I came in here.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Titty's a sweat team dud.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, I'm not okay, I'm staying.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Calm, Stay calm. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I'm really glad at the energy that we have in
here today. Let's let's let's yesterday. You and I talk
A lot. A lot of things been going on yes
we've seen. I'm gonna talk about some little light stuff,
then we get into some not light stuff, and then
we get the fuck out of here. Maybe get into
a little bit more light stuff after that. How y'all
feel about that? Yeah? I like that. Shout out to
the No Shame Gang for y'all just being patient with us.

(39:35):
By the way, you know what I'm saying, traveling to
hit me up on the side, like, bro, everything okay, Bro,
just it's too hot. A lot going on. We'll seey'all
next week. I saw Drake coming out with who do
you come out with? Yesterday? Morgan Whaley? Who is that?
Morgan Whaley?

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Country dude, pop dude, country who? I think he's like
a country, uh music artist?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Okay, And there was some sort of controversy about Drake
being seen with this guy. What was the controversy?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Me?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Personally, I have no no no, no no no no
no no no no no no no no no. I
didn't actually for your opinion, Maxim, for the fact, the fact,
the fact of the matters.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Social media was a buzz about Drake walking Morgan Wailey
out he had a concert and I think Houston and uh,
Drake had walked him out in his concert and then
people were a buzz about that. Why, I guess because
Morgan has a past history of using the N words,
and he's been.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Known for being a racist and calling black people the
hard e r is what the caption is owned Justin
Bieber ship basically Justin Bieber. Yeah, what do you mean?
Justin Bieber was singing a nigga, one little lonely nigga.
It was aggressive. I have never heard that. But okay, Dodge,

(40:57):
have you heard that Justin Bieber out here just spewing
the er? Never? Is he just making that up to
validate the other guy? You that much of a Drake
Stand to make the race and musical musical historians, So
please don't.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Disrespect musical, don't disrespect him.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
I apologize Drake Stand was aggressive.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
It was.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Do y'all think What do y'all think about with the
whatever's happened over the last year with Drake, the Kendrick,
the culture, the Canada, the Canada, all of this, all
of these things that have been going around right involving
Drake over the last year since the battle happened.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
What do I think about it? I don't think about it.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
You're looking at what Cam said, like b brids from
Canada too, That makes a lot of sense. Maybe their
interpretation of the of the hard r is different than
maybe Drake and Bieber is just like to me, that
doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Are you making him like an excuse for like not.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Making an excuse him trying to and a white man?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
But you say the Canadian connection between Bieber and Drake
and I'm just trying to put it all together. Maybe
Drake was like, oh, he said to yours No, we
don't have a history of slavery here. It's not a
big deal.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
After the last year, you think that that's smart. No,
you just say what I'm saying to make a decision like, yeah,
well it's not a big deal. Like Nigga, they literally
talk about you saying slavery in your wraps, mocking the
black experience, not being connected to the culture. They literally
are talking about this type of move and then you

(42:45):
do something like this.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Maybe you just don't know why, because the problem is
that Drake has a tendency to parallel himself to people
that are hot. But I don't know if he's doing
a lot of research about who these people are. It
could be simple ignorance of him, just not knowing the
history of this person. But this person is probably buzzing

(43:07):
and whatever sphere that they're buzzing in, and Drake loves
to attach himself to hot new shit like well.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
To be fair, Morgan was in Drake's video for All
the Dogs like two or three years ago, So my.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Niggas ain't say nothing about it then because.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
My point exactly, but you know what the er is
being flown around at that time. I mean, whether they
was or he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Like I don't believe they were actually, so there's some
new shit.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
So he was around niggas and then calling niggas niggas
last year or so.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
But I don't I can't call it for sure, but
I do believe it's newer the ers.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
So basically, I seen that Drake should have disassociated himself
from him once that happened, maybe publicly.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
What do you think me personally?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Of course, like I said, I seen him in Drake's
video a couple of years ago. I didn't think nothing
about it, So I didn't think nothing about the walkout
now as far as with him saying nigga me personally,
I'm I'm over.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I'm sorry, but I'm over that, like over.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
What white people saying it or black people are allowing
it to be said.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I'm over both white people saying it, like I just
don't care, like it doesn't affect me, Like I'm not
holding it with the same like, oh, you can't say it,
but all of the Asian people and Hispanic people and
this person and these people everybody else can say it
even though they're not Black.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
But but they're not supposed to say it either, but
they do.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
That's what I'm saying, Like it's the difference between what's
happening and what's real life and what's real life.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
People across the diaspora is saying nigga.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Like primary who's diaspora, not the Nigga diaspora.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
The world about the world.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yes, because people don't get slapped enough, Like when when
the nigga's gonna start slapping people for saying nigga in
their presence? That's y'all problem.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
So just for.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Clarification, yes, you're okay with white people using the hard R.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I don't me personally, I don't care about I just
don't care, like it don't affect me. I'm not taking
it like if you're not saying it to me, or
you're not disrespecting me personally, then I don't care if somebody.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Says it over there.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
General statement like I don't care, and because again too,
if I care if they say it, I got to
care when the Spanish person said, when an Asian person said,
when this person say, when this person say it, when
the person from over here.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, you're supposed to came when everybody say it unless
they can prove they have two black grand that have
four black grandparents. If you don't have four black grandparents,
it's very iffy for you to say it too.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
I walk into work the other day. I don't disagree,
but I'm yes, I'm just not policing it. That's what
I'm saying. I walked into work yesterday. I'm working at
a queen's garage. Never been to this garage. It is
five am in the morning. I'm late. I'm probably the
last person to get there. Everybody who's in my discoord
no I show up late, so I showed maybe five

(45:50):
oh four, five h five. I'm looking for the signing sheet.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
As I walk in. I leaned over to sign the
sheet and I heard, fuck it, I'm gonna go wake
these niggas up. Turn around. There's a number white people here,
and it was a dodge turnaround. It was one of
those turnarounds like when I say some shit and she
looks at me like I literally was stunned, Like, so

(46:16):
I looked and I've located the voice, and dude was
walking in the room to go wake the niggas up,
and I stood. Then I looked around, like did anybody
else hear that? Just now? I'm not from this garage,
so I'm confused, like I'm literally like, So I signed

(46:37):
and I had my sneakers on, I have my uptowns on,
so I had to go back to the truck to
put on because I was late, So I just hopped
out with you know, I've bittapped back to the truck
and I'm putting on my boots and I'm thinking to oh,
calm down, because you ever a feel of rumbling and
you feel that shit coming from deep but it's not.
And I'm just like breathed, like because you can't. You

(46:57):
don't know these niggs. You there's no black people here.
You're the only black people in this whole person in
his hallway, And so I'm thinking eeo, that's.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Uh, equal employment opportunity.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, like you're not supposed to feel offended by like
you can't call somebody bitch sexual harassment. You can't. There's
certain things that hr So I'm thinking, I'm thinking that,
how do you because you your energy is bugged out?
You know you relax? You better than me, right. So
I walk in and I say to myself, well, maybe

(47:36):
he's black. So he's sitting in the like he sat
on one of the benches in front of the board
where were looking to see where we're going. And I
kind of creep around to look at him, and he
has red facial hair.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Your gender.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, he's white. He's seriously white. He's Irish. On of them.
They have that rech you know what I mean. I said, yo,
let me talk to you outside. Come. He walks out.
He gets up, and I'm a kind of aggressive person,
so he gets up. I said this way, let's go
out here, and he goes out. I said, yo, I

(48:15):
just heard you say nigga. And I got my hand
on him, like I heard you just say that. He's
like no, and I'm like, oh, because I saw I
just heard you just say that. You was gonna go
wake some niggas up. You didn't say that. He's like, no,
I'm like, oh, all right, because I didn't know what
the fuck was about to happen in this garage. I'm

(48:37):
not from here. You know what I'm saying, But I
didn't know what was about to happen. My bad bro,
go ahad do you think you know how crazy that is?
Though I'm not from here, there's one hundred and fifty
of the.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Man that's the right thing to do. That is the
right thing to do because if you don't address microaggressions
and racism, then it allows itself to perpetuate. So one
he probably did say it, but maybe next time he
gonna read the fucking room before you start spewing out niggas.
Because I'm the type of nigga that as I was signing,
I would have turned around like lone as fuck. I'm

(49:14):
gonna be very honest with you. I'm not even gonna
hold y'all like my mouth is a problem, and I
am not. I'm not there yet, so I'm I'm an
attack of heaven.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
But this is what I think. This is what I
think about women. Though the room with everybody in here,
y'all are unhinged because I said this several times, that
women will attack a problem straight on full force because
they don't as much as y'all talk about y'all think
about harassment and men doing things y'all, I don't feel
like y'all consider death with every interaction the way men do.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I consider death, but I also consider the fact that
I'm unhinged enough to that's not at the forefront of
my mind in that moment. I think about it. Later,
i'd be like, damn, and I was kind of wild,
like I could have died, but like in that minute,
like in that moment, all logic escapes me. I don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm like, not even death. I wouldn't go for myself.
I don't go to that extreme, but I do. Before
I say something super confrontational, I'm like, am I ready
for some fisticuffs?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Because if I say this and what said back to
me is inappropriate, I need to be prepared for it
to go to a physical That's what it's going you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
That's what this is going. Right.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I have a story to tell, but I can only
tell it on Patreon. I swear to God, I have
a story about this right here, but I cannot say
it or this live show. It cannot be clipped.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
So before we move on, I need some current. So
were you certain that it was him?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
It was only one guy going that, that's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Saying, because wrong because he usually say that ship around
all the mother white people. But you ain't realized that
there was a real black person in the room, ty
who bit down writing.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
On the thing.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
He ain't never been there before. You not expecting real
black people to be in your vicinity. So you speaking regular, No,
there's actually a nigga in here. Watch your fucking mouth.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Watch that's the energy it game, bro, because because nobody
budged when he said it, it was just regular like
this is just what they do. And I was the
only one there. There was no niggas nowhere. I was
the last person to leave.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
I'm just surprised that he ain't be like, Yo, my bad,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Hip hop?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I didn't mean. I think I think my energy is
a little different here than the way I came because
I was like this, like you just did that. You
know what I'm saying, because it's almost like I'm about
to do something. I want to make sure that you
understand that owning.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
It and apologizing would have been a better situation than no,
you're gonna question my sanity now, Like I know I
heard you say the shit. You're gonna sit here and
be like, no, I ain't say that.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Oh nah, that's a slap in the face. To own
it and apologize for it, because if you apologize, that
means that you know that it's wrong. But then if
you don't apologize and you double down, then you really
might get slapped. He did the right thing. The right
thing is my uncle told me. My uncle told me
a long time ago that he respects a man that
will lie to him to his face if he press him,

(52:34):
because he knows that he thene fucked up. And sometimes
a nigga would they know they're fucked up. Sometimes you
just gotta pull back, but don't make it worse. Don't
like double down on it. Like you know your truth.
You know what you heard, you know what you saw.
You already know that it's true. He knows it as well.
He's scared. So when you scared, what you do what

(52:54):
all people do.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
You wouldn't take an apology in that situation, Like, I
don't know. It wasn't a racist you word. It was
inappropriate use of the word, but it wasn't like an
apology for.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
What what you apologizing for slavery? What are you apologizing for? Discrimination?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Presence aund.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
My bad slipped up.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Can you really imagine somebody saying like, Yo, usually it
don't be no niggas around, but now that it's presence.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Know what I was saying is and that to your
points out, that's what I was talking about. Like a
lot of people in different areas of the world, they
refer to themselves as nigga, but they're not they're not.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I'm not saying that I agree with it. What I'm
saying is that you've already deflated it. You've already accepted
it for your own self, so I'm not about to
police it when you it's like you said, it's fifty
white people in here and y'all calling each other nigga.
We see the Spanish people in the age of people
in the big groups fighting all the time, and what
we hear all the time, Yo, my nigga, Yo, my nigga,
My nigga is my nigga. Is, and I quick and

(54:03):
there's not one insight, but that's what I'm saying. They're
calling themselves that. So the whole dynamic of it being
used in a certain way, it's over, y'all, y'all call yourselves.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Yes, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
I'm surprised that you for accepting the eer like you,
like you accept that.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
It's not that I accept them, But what I'm saying is,
it's like what we policing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Ever acceptable from black people? Why are we using the ear?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
You wasn't around at this time, but I pressed the
Spanish dude at my job. I remember that you're not
you you you you. You say it too much, bro,
and you hang out with white people. So at this
point I don't want to hear you saying that. At
this point, it's fucking with me. So I don't care
what you do when I'm not around. But because I'm
right here, keep that ship too low, bro, I'm.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Not with it, and I respect that. Like I said,
everybody's not me. So, like I say all the time,
I ain't gonna say shit to you, but somebody else
might say something and I'm not going to be like, oh,
you should stop, yo.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Don't present. It's not every motherfucking time. I'm gonna say
something every time, and I'm and I'm gonna start from
your mother. I'm gonna start. I always start with people
mothers because I'm disrespectful. So I just want to know,
like your mother black, her mother black? So who I'm
talking to? Who is the nigga in the room except

(55:18):
for me?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Let's get back to the Drake situation yesterday. I'm pretty
sure you said you your stance is that you don't care.
I don't care that the markets person Morgan. Morgan said
Marcus would have been black. You don't care trauma. What
do you feel about this?

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Yeah, I don't feel like anybody should be using a
hardy are in the public, like even even yesterday, like.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Definitely can't say.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
He can't say.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I laughed.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
I laughed when Doud said she used the hearty do
the hearty yard around my close friends, joking me, But
when is it ever appropriate to use the hearty when
niggas starts the white person like, that's never okay? So
if that's if that's what he actually used, then there's
no pass for that.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Am I the only one in here that things. Drake
just don't give a fuck right now.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I think he's more tone death than he don't give
a fuck.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I think like, fuck y'all niggas, y'all. Niggas, didn't call
me Jewish pedophile, y'all, don't call me a colonizer. Y'all.
Y'all have affected me in every which way I would get.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Me.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Fuck y'all, I did it already. Y'all did it already.
And this was my man from two years ago. Maybe
if if that should happened before y'all did everything that
y'all did to me back then, maybe i'd care. But
y'all Black Americans, fuck y'all. Fuck y'all. I think that's
what he's on me personally. I think that people respond

(56:59):
to trauma in ways it is not comprehensible. It's a
lot of but hurt shit that you do when you're
going through some shit that nigga has been through, something
none of us will ever be able to fuck understand. Really,
you at the top, top top of the world. You
go anywhere anywhere around this whole motherfucking world and be you,
and now you can't. You've been stripped of that. And

(57:22):
he thinks for lack of I don't know that is
whole A lie, not a pedophile. I'm not a colonizer.
I'm not what y'all saying I am. Y'all been calling
me Jewish for mad long. I couldn't even a black face.
I identify as black. I want a black face promoting
his clothing brand, and y'all said that I was bugging
for that. Then you're calling me jewish. You're talking about
my nose, You're talking about my moms and my pops

(57:44):
and my kid and every fuck y'all. Fuck y'all, how
I'm loyal? Am I supposed to be to y'all? When
this white motherfucker help me? Now, he's been standing here, man,
nobody else is standing next to me. Honestly, nobody else
is standing next to me.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
That makes the argument even better because at that point,
so you're not black because you're willing because of a
group of people. Even better, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, you're right, yo, yesterday, when you think about what
I'm saying, I mean, I think he's a black Canadian.
I feel like we keep saying black like black is
exclusive to America. It's like there's black Canadians two guys.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Black Canadians call themselves black Canadians. What you call yourselves,
you'll call yourselves Canadian or black Canadian.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Because I feel like you'll just say you're Canadian and
the black is implied.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Call yourself. She said, you know why, because they call
themselves Canadian. They recognize the fact that they're black. They
have Remember, everybody is not from the same thing. So
some people, she says, some people are Caribbean, some people
are not.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Not not.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Cam and my lion, and that that's just saying something.
When you ask a person if they're black and they say,
I'm Caribbean, that's the thing. I'm Trinidadian. I'm guying Guyanese.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
But that's not that. But being Caribbean is not synonymous
with being black.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Because we are we because in America we identify with
race simultaneously, Jamaican, Canadian, nation, nationality, ethnicity, all of these things.
Other countries don't, from what I know, go black.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
They go I'm from here, yeah, this is where my
family to American bullshit, I just say I'm American.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
But be clear, when people say black, that's an American thing.
That's an American thing. From what I know, I could
be wrong, but yeah, yeah, I'm not black, I'm Canadian. Now,
if we're gonna go deeper in and you start questioning
the motherfucker, of course they're gonna say I'm black, my
mother's black, my father's black, or whatever it may be.

(59:53):
But that's not how they identify. And then when with
what he did, Drake was socially raped.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Huh yo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yo, run that back, guys, what's going on? Like, what's
going on now? Yeah, he was excavated, bro, They took
they tore that boy boy hole up. Bro. They tore
him up, bro. They ripped him apart, and today they did.

(01:00:24):
They ripped him by people that cares people. They destroyed
his ain'tal cavity. I'm just saying that the internet destroyed him.
And at this point I wouldn't have no loyalty to
black and the black experience when it comes to America
past what I'm going through right now, I wouldn't like y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I think you're making it a little deeper in my opinion,
But there is one thing that you said that I
completely agree with. I think it's more along the lines
of the dude Morgan is his friend. He was his
friend two years ago. He's still his friend after all
these beefs, and not too many people are still aligned

(01:01:09):
with Drake anymore. So Drake is probably going to continue
to be loyal to him because he if he said
the nigger, he lost a lot of people, and he's like, Yo,
regardless of whatever your flaws are, you're one of the
few artists that have remained loyal to me. I'm gonna
still rock with you even if he said the nigg
regardless of your flaws.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Gosh, what do you want from me? What is it? Right?
That was it? That was That was the tweet. That
was crazy. That was a tweet yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
That was a tweet, bro that was the one.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Well, well, I have had quite a fucking week. As
I said, uh mm hm. Went to the beach earlier
this week, went to the beach.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Before I went to the beach, I posted a clip
or loom who handles hard to save social media posted
a clip h I had? It was of an episode?
Oh yeah, it was of an episode that I did
with two gay men on Hardt for Pride Month. Amazing episode,

(01:02:17):
chaotic episode. I was not prepared for one of the guests, Billy.
I've done several episodes with him. He's of the Needs
to Be Studied podcast, Need to Be Studied podcast. He's
actually has a live show coming up, I believe in August.
I want to go, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I want to meet the both of them. I think
I am a fan of the both of them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Funniest people, just great personality. So I've done a matter
of fact, I'm going to Corbabillity later on today. Right,
hopefully the moed doesn't fuck me up, but just amazing,
amazing content. One of the clips was as me, you

(01:03:03):
got a problem. You have a problem because I don't
know what that looking. I'm looking directly at you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Would you because looking directly at and I'm looking this way,
So why the fuck you looking at me? Looking at
your ship? Don't worry about me?

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Trump? Did do you pay attention to social media? Whatsoever?
I saw the clip which one the underwear sniff? I
wasn't talking about that one. Okay, what's the other one?
What did y'all think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Because I think Nigga said a little sad song. I fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I myself sniff underwear.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
My Nigga sniffed and tucked both of them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Did I know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
But it was so smooth, like he puts your drawers
in the Prodi jacket like that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
That's kind of funny the way the product showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
The product.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
That wasn't the clip I was talking about. This is
the clip I was talking about. Now in this clip,
we are listening to another clip before one of the
guests speaks, right, So just for the people who cannot
see this, just keep that in mind. Let's see. Let
me see if I can, because you know, this phone
should be wildent. These young niggas be wildent.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
Black women do insight a lot of tension between straight
men and gay men, especially when they point out things
that straight men do that might be quote unquote sassy.
It's all these things that straight men can't do that
we do just without thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Black women watching you kind of like have to leave.
By example, you can't.

Speaker 9 (01:04:43):
Love me for a million different reasons and not expect
him to love me for the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
And when I say that, if I come across.

Speaker 9 (01:04:48):
A man and he thinks I'm funny, he thinks our
dressed nice, you can't automatically.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Think that this man wants to fuck me. It's weird.

Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
I will defend black women with my life, but you
have to defend me the same way, and it has
to be even a close the board to give black
straight men chrace.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
It's a lot of chicks that have gay besties and
still be calling these gay.

Speaker 9 (01:05:07):
I feel like women lead the charge and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
He get his nails done. I don't like that I
went down my whip dirt under his. That's like, that
is weird.

Speaker 9 (01:05:15):
They want dirty, stinky, funky to perceive like that masculinity
and I think that there's weird and the fact that
men feed into that shit is scary.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Tune in the Harder Saw for the full episode. What
do you guys think about this clip? I feel like
it's a conversation. I don't know if we've talked about it,
but I've definitely heard that conversation before. We probably have
talked about it, but to hear it from a gay
black man perspective, I think they're the perfect people to
bring this conversation to light and to address it and

(01:05:52):
to call black women out on that for being homophobic
and creating a divide between straight black men and and
gay black men.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
You know, before I even we talk about what we
think of it, I'm just I just realized, like that
they are the perfect people to broach the subject and
to call it out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
For what it is. The black women in my comments
did not agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
They didn't agree when I said it either. When I
was clipped and I said that black women are the
most homophobic women period like, they didn't. They didn't want
to hear it from me either.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
We got a bunch of let's see how you feel
about that clip. I feel like it was.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
The episode was a good episode, and I soon seen
that there was a lot of women that were not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Pleased that because again it goes back to the conversation
of who can check black women, Like who can tell
black women like, yo, you're bugging this is actually not okay. Nobody,
nobody has the right. I can't say it as another
black woman, they can't say it as black gay men.
So who's going to be able to look you in
the face and tell you the truth and how you're

(01:06:59):
actions and your words impact other people. You not trying
to hear it from anybody. So who's going to be
the one that's going to be able to drill the
ship in your head that you're not as allied as
you think.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
You are, and the word and you're actually being a
more of a disservice than a than a positive service
to the situation, because, like you said in a clip,
like there is so much that everybody follows from black women, right,
and then when they put these crumbs down, it's hard
for both sides to understand, to really understand like where

(01:07:34):
they land at, because you're you're saying one thing on
one end, but saying you're doing another thing on another end.
So now you have both people they gave people and
the straight people in limbo because it's like, well, I
don't know how you feel about me because you're using
who I am as weaponization against somebody else. But you're
telling me that you accept me, but you're weaponizing that

(01:07:54):
against somebody you know what I'm saying. So it's a
very it's an interesting dance that's created, and then like
you said, when it's brought to light, it's kind of like, Yo,
you just shut the fuck up, man, nigga, don't talk
about it. You can't talk about it. Black men, you
can't talk about it. Gay men can't talk So who
can talk about it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Who can bring this topic up in a space in
a way that black women can kind of finally look
themselves in the mirror and be like, you know what,
maybe I do need to change some things about the
way that I articulate my thoughts and my feelings or
my preferences when it comes to heterosexual men. That it's

(01:08:32):
not down in degrading a whole other group of people.
I've said it before, like black men are more scared
of a woman calling them gay than another nigga because
that shit sting a little different. That shit hurt a
little different. Like when you and your boys, when y'all
laughing and y'all joking, y'all gonna say stupid shit to
each other, that shit don't hurt the same. But if
a girl is like, Noah, nigga, you're gay, I can't

(01:08:53):
fuck with you? What and I'm gay because of what?

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
What is it that makes me gay? It's not is
not none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
You're absolutely I'm sorry I cut you off. It's fine,
You're absolutely correct. Like just a chick you cysts on
the internet, my fault cys you'd be like whoa what?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Like why?

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Like damn? And they learn to use that in so
many differ ways because they know that shit hits different.
You feel me versus So I got a couple of comments,
I got a couple of responses to that video that
I want to read, Bring on ignorance. I don't think
it's I think it's a trigger.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
It's a trigger for who for.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Women, especially Black women, when you use the word black,
those words black women and generally attach it to something negative.
I think for women that just are tired of being
looked at negatively, it's just like it just hurts when
people generalize or blame or blame, like and they say

(01:09:57):
they kept saying that, they kept saying blame.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
But it's not negativity. If it's just a critique, is
a critique, but it is a general critique because I
feel like when you when you have certain conversations and
your experience shows that the majority of people feel one
way versus the minority, it is so easy to generalize

(01:10:22):
because you've seen this example over and over and over
again from so many different people. There is a larger number,
in my opinion, of black women that speak down on
black heterosexual men for things that they like and use
it to identify and label their sexuality. Then there are
those that don't. So if that is the case, then

(01:10:46):
why can't I speak blant, blatantly and generally, and if
you're not one of those people, why are you so affective?

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
That's my problem? Use the words black men part of me? Yes,
black men, this black men that. If it don't apply,
let it fly, you say, some old hit dogs going
holler like we bro, we and we and y'all have
told us time and time again it might not be you,

(01:11:15):
but you know what, somebody like that. And if you're
not speaking up in defense and you're part of the problem.
We hear this all the time when it's across the
aisle with black men. And let's be clear, black men
is used just as much or more than black women.
It is, and I don't even know which one is more,

(01:11:36):
but it's at least just as much. And it's crazy
that y'all can't understand. Bro, I've seen if he do this,
he's gay. If he do that, he's gay. If he
whatever it is he do that, you don't like, he's gay.
And this should have have ten thousand retweets, that should
have had mad laughs, crying emojis, all of this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
It's toxic.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
And you don't where you at when you see and
that when you the ladies who were talking and so angry, right,
y'all the same women that say, if a nigga knows
a nigga that don't take care of his kids and
don't and hang out with him, he just don't press them.
He's just as bad. Y'all are the same ones that

(01:12:19):
say that. But y'all be cracking up laughing when the
chick calls a nigga gave her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Some verst one the first one Ello Ellen in the
comments and it ain't shit funny.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Y'all all mad about the black women comment right that,
even though I feel like if he would have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Said some, they wouldn't change because nobody kiss.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Well, I don't think it'd been this much backclash because
they could. They could have found their little pocket. He
said some.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
No, because it doesn't matter, because when people are offended
by things, it doesn't mean it doesn't matter if you
say some, if you say all, if you say ten percent,
there's still always going to be an uproar because everybody
uses social media like they're fucking therapists. Everybody have to
tell their story. They gotta tell they they're they're clap
back at something like you wasn't even in this room,
like like and go or don't like and go, but

(01:13:04):
like shutting the fuck up really needs to be like
more norms. Shut the fuck up. What Keiki said, Kiki
Palma says some real shit. She was like, I don't
have an issue with people having the right to have
an opinion. You do have a right to have an opinion,
but that opinion doesn't have to be public. Go take
that shit to your group chat. I've been saying this

(01:13:25):
for years and Keiki Palma just said this went vibra
like a week ago. Take that shit to your group
chat and spew all that negativity over there. But for
you to talk about and talk under a post that
is directly to impact the person that's in the post,
like you, you're bugging out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
You know, you know I was gonna let this conversation
go a little further, but yesterday you know I can't.
I can't, Bro, And you know I find that what
you said so pointnant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Why why me?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Because mouse Jones jumps under the post. Mouse Jones my
friend for hell long? How long y'all know, way too long? Right,
mouse Jones, who I've had this conversation with, Yo, Bro,
why do you try to like down me on the
internet in front of all these people. You know, I'm
not here trying to get money. I feed my family.

(01:14:14):
I have five kids, five that I'm actively present for.
I feed your friends like you, and you know my heart.
You know my heart. But you also are a podcaster.
You've seen this. I say, you got an issue with me,
call me on the side. But what this nigga chooses
to do. Let me see what this nigga chooses to do,

(01:14:37):
my friend. Homophobia is a byproduct of patriarchy, and it's
often imposed on those at the bottom of society's total poll,
which is still black women. This narrative discussion is lacking
major nuance here. It's a bit lazy and disingenuous and
overall dangerous to carte blanche place to blame on women.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Mouse j don't say the word carte blanche.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Please please.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Think it's hurt that niggas a panda orre you fucking panda?

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
I said, Bro, you got some fucking nerve.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Bro Yo, you nigga that we know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
You got some nerve.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Bro, your audacity is at.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
And I'm gonna say it like this. The only reason
I'm gonna say like this is I've literally already spoken
to you about doing this. Why did you need to
do this on this page? You don't have a podcast,
you know me right what you needed this for likes
and clicks, And the other thing is you know how
to protect your interests. You don't want nobody to do
nothing to offend your interests. But you would come under

(01:15:49):
here as my friend and somebody will say, look and
mouse don't even agree with them. You know what that
looks like. You could easily called me on the side,
like yo, big bro, such and such and such.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
If it's dangerous, it's not dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
It's not that it's dangerous. Hit my line. It's not
danger is crazy? Listen, man, Like I told you before,
you're going to go to his.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
House and beat him up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
In my opinion, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
After this, I swear I owe that nigga snuff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
I feel like he's seen the backlash online, He's seen
what the comments said, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Was like, isn't he friends with that nigga? The nigga
Billy that's the name Billy right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Bon actually spoke good about the nigga on the podcast.
He actually brought him up on the podcast, and the
nigga shives him, shives them. I got you, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
I'm trying to ye because it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Nigga what this word means mouse.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
But I can't say I'm really mad about it because
he's trying to defend black women, which is normally never
a bad thing to try to defend a black woman
or black women in general. Start however, Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
That's crazy, that's harsh question.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
When I asked questions, however, my response is this, like,
I do understand the black women's pushback, like, oh, it's
not all black women, but this is just my perspective,
and y'all could agree or disagree. I've only seen this
from black women. I've never seen men being online living

(01:17:40):
a listing reasons that things that make black men gay.
I've never seen a list from white women talking about
this is what makes black men sassy. Like, I've never
seen it from anybody other than black women. So even
if it's two percent of black women that think this way,
they're the only people that have commented or made commentary

(01:18:03):
publicly online about this. So when we generate, when we
you know, generally say oh, black women have said this online,
because they're the only group that have said these standards
about what's gaying what's not according to you know, pertaining
to black men. So I think it's a fair thing
to say, and I don't think like, I don't think
this is a situation where Mouse or anybody needs to

(01:18:25):
be like, oh, I need to step in and defend
black women. You know what I mean, I give them
a little grace because normally black defending black women online
is a beautiful thing. But in this situation, it's like,
it's kind of like, I mean, it's kind of true.
The only thing that may be not true is like
you don't want to generalize like we all said and
say that this is how black women think as a

(01:18:46):
monol look, but I don't see any other group.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Thing is put these think pieces of My thing is
this This is less about black women and to me
more about the fragility of black men and the fact
that most of the black men out here that need
to need the protection or need to the women need
to pay attention to their influencer are the weaker ones,
which and it's always going to be way more of

(01:19:11):
the lesser than theirs are. The better, the greater, right,
it's gonna get fewer. Domino dominoa gets more. Wise you
get up, it gets the more greater a personal or
there's just less of them up there. So the black
men that that shit don't affect, well, I'm not talking
about them. I'm talking about the ones that walk past
you in the street, the ones that take the subway
with you, the ones that teach the kids that they're

(01:19:34):
in the house, the ship that they take to the
schools that affect your kids. I'm talking about the fact
that this is influencing the wider, broader band of niggas
that care so much about what you think because they
don't even know who they are yet. They don't have
that self respect yet you understand what I'm saying. They

(01:19:54):
haven't gotten that they might not have the dick size.
I'm sorry, they might not have the wallet size, might
not have whatever they feel validates them as a man,
to separate them from the pack, because niggas in general
try tolign themselves with the greater pack, the niggas, the
other niggas. Whatever they say, it's cool, all right, I'm
gonna do what they say is cool. We've all done

(01:20:15):
it at times. Right back when you used to wear jerseys.
We did that because jay Z said it. We want
to be cool, yo, this nigga, bro. Yes, it's ridiculous.
I'm just trying to get off. He won't even just bro.

(01:20:35):
But at some point in your life you stop caring
about being cool for everybody else. You have that sense
of self worth, Like, Yo, I'm a I'm more of
a lion part of me than i am a rat.
Rats and packs and ship like that hyenas, and you
know the nigga, I'm walking over here with my family.
I'm taking care of my responsibilities. I'm a whole man.

(01:20:59):
It's a lot less of a And there are the
Pact niggas, you know what I'm saying. And those niggas,
no matter whether they got Jordan's Benz's jury girls, they
care about what everybody else thinks. They super care about
what everybody else thinks. So when y'all say these things,
they do the most not to be those things. And

(01:21:23):
that's dangerous. Yeah, we're talking about the influences that you have.
I'm not blaming you. I'm saying that there are niggas
out there that can affect you and yours negatively when
you joke like that. Yes, they're still the problem. But
be aware, Be aware. It's not niggas like me and him,

(01:21:44):
him and her where you get. I'm caring. Shit. I
literally niggas just snip my underwear on my podcast. I
don't care. But it's other niggas that's like, Yeah, that
nigga s us for that because they scared of being themselves.
They scared of what everybody is, so they gotta say
it out out. You know what I mean? Oh, that
nigga right there, That nigga, because nigga used too worried
about what people think, right, and that's dangerous? You feel me? Yeah?

(01:22:13):
Now she was sucker too, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I'm texting this nigga right now. I was like, when
you learn the word cart blanche, you be putting off
this nigga said what you mean exactly because he don't
even know when he used that word.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Shut man, I love you to death that you a
sucker for that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
But then I also want to say I also want
to say, like there is this goes back to the
I don't I know. I told this story on here
about Oh yeah, yeah, I got a story to tell
you about my year. So there was a situation that
I told I don't know if I told y'all, I

(01:22:48):
said it in a discord. But whatever the case may be,
that at one point in time, there was two students
that were caught kissing in the back of the classroom.
And then when we called the parents of the students,
of course the mother of the daughter is upset, like,
what do you mean you kissing boys? Even class D D.
And then when I called the boy's family, the response was, well,

(01:23:11):
what they want you to do be kissing boys instead,
that's crazy. But the parents said that to the child,
not knowing that the child was on speaker, so I
had to jump in and interject, and I was like,
that's not the point. The point is there should not
be any type of inappropriate anything going down in class.

(01:23:32):
I've work in middle school, Like what are we talking about?
And then the parent is like, oh, no, no, no,
I didn't know that I was on speak a da
da dah. But that's not the point, because that was
your response to you getting a call of your child
being in trouble for doing something inappropriate, not foot on
his neck, but what they'd rather you be doing, kissing

(01:23:53):
a boy. But how does that person grow up? Like
what do they think about?

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
And wrong, inappropriate and inappropriate, and how does that matriculate
in his life? Going further, this is the ship that
happens and who said it? A black woman? Sorry, crazy,
they're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
That they're blaming that on patriarchy, that this is how
women were indoctrinated, Like, you can't blame us when it
was y'all that did this to us. What do you
have to say to that? Read it, read it all loud,
so sorry, you see what the funk I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
You see what I've been talking about. This thing is
not well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
You have to say to the fact that they're saying
that it's patriarchy and black women have been indoctrinated and
it's our fault that it happens, So you can't blame
them for the effects that society has had on them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
It's it's the patriarchy that makes black women.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Homophobic, being that we I don't know, I don't know.
I didn't I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
That would be more so the push of religion and
religious ideology, and more so the thought process of trying
to be the opposite of jail culture and buck breaking,
if you want to take it that far. I don't
know how I don't know if I blame the patriarchy
on that, but it's just like a systematic over time.

(01:25:14):
Just thinking about the degradation of black men and how
Stacy Banks was saying, like, you know, black men are
the highest in the world, and I can't see a
black man getting bent over whatever the case may be. Like,
I think it's just that thought process, the same way
that black women will say there's no such thing as
a bisexual man. If you bisexual, you automatically gain and

(01:25:37):
it's like, no, you have, but it's like it's not
socially acceptable for men to be bisexual. And then you
have download niggas, and then you have niggas secretly going
to get what they want and what they really need
because they can't be truthful within themselves because of whom.

(01:25:57):
Who is the person that's making them feel that way?

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I think men and women, though I don't think it's
fair to just say it's women.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
I don't know, I don't believe that. I think I
definitely I believe that women women niggas don't want to
lose the niggas identify themselves. Sorry, don no, it's cool
by their friends too. It is how much pussy I
got and how much money I got. But especially when
you're a younger age, the ones that this conversation more affects.
It's by your niggas, your pack. Once them niggas call

(01:26:25):
you this or start treating you a certain way or
whatever whatever, you kind of lose identity. So yeah, you
want to look like the nigga that get all the girls.
That's for your niggas too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
And y'all have used this against us when it comes
to how we treat our women, because y'all have said,
who do you really care about them niggas that you
hang out with or your girl? Y'all have used that,
so y'all understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
There we are the problem again, it's us. It's not
the I don't think it's the men. I think it's
the way that women speak sometimes too, men that have
influenced men of what's right and what's wrong. What I
do kind of appreciate about this next generation coming up,
not the next not not these fucking gen z ors.
These niggas is weird, but like the Alphas and shit,

(01:27:10):
they are way more comfortable leaning into gayness, especially the boys.
I never seen nothing like this shit before. Like they
will experiment with other boys and speak it and literally
will say it like, yeah, I kissed the boy before.
I was curious about it. It wasn't really my thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
You have to say to the people that will say
at society doing that, showing them that on television, teaching
it in school.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I think that there is nothing. There is absolutely nothing
that a television program can do to make a nigga
want to suck a dick. There's absolutely nothing. You see
the cartoon, there's absolutely nothing. I didn't say kiss. I
said suck a dick. This is different, not to take

(01:28:01):
different because because kids are gonna experience, all kids, kids experiment.
They be kissing this ship like they always do. All
kids do that ship. I feel like kids don't have
identity their own cousins. By the way, I'm just arguing
this incest could.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Before you keep going, because I'm just gonna say, I'm
just arguing your point. I really don't give a fuck
with nobody do. But the point that I'm arguing from
people that say that say this is that when you're
a kid, you don't really have identity of self. You
don't know anything about male, female, none of that except
when your mom gives you a dollhouse and you're walking

(01:28:36):
around with dolls, and then your dad is like, no,
that's not for you. Boy. You supposed to have a
car and you're talking trunk like. There's a there's a
line that society points you towards where you're quote unquote
supposed to be, and nowadays that line has been blurred,
which a lot of people will say is confusing the children.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
Don't you think that the line was blurred because it's
been far too many instances where where you try to
draw these lines and then the people are going outside
of the lines. I think that's where the issue is coming.
We've created these lines and these guidelines for this for
this particular thing, excuse me, and what we've seen is
over time that hasn't worked. That's why we've had the

(01:29:20):
the situations that we've had. As far as with the
LG you know, the big the community, and as far as.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
The publick blick with us say thet say the community, no,
I know what.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I couldn't I know what he was saying. But with
us hilarious fly us.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
So I think that's that's a large part of the
reason why, especially with the younger community is because we,
like you said, we've had these guidelines, but obviously the
the people and the kids are showing you that this
don't fit us, and we have we still have to
exist even whether we have your outlines or not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
And that's the problem that we're coming to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I think from my I think that we are young.
I think that again we are young. America's young, and
we don't know enough people. There are not enough people
that study enough of history. We can start there. I
believe that you can't pray the gay away, you can't

(01:30:19):
beat the gay away. I think that there was always
there has been a shift in this country in the
last one hundred years of things changing, and it be
like consistent change that makes people uncomfortable. From in the
fifties where you couldn't even shake your hips on TV
because it's like, oh no, you're trying to sexualize and

(01:30:41):
you're trying to you're trying to make the kids horny
type shit like this is my bi I can't shake
a hip, like I can't wear something a little bit shorter.
You had to like there there's so many respectability politics
that we have had to deal with and had to
break down over the years, I think that there's nothing
wrong with chill ding young children experimenting because that's what

(01:31:02):
they're gonna do anyway. Like, again, a lot of people
the first time that they were playing house and shit,
they playing house with cousins and second cousins and all
the rest of this of the shit. So if you're
kissing your cousin in the mouth, like in your brain,
that shit not okay. Like I don't know, like you're
you're making certain things acceptable because it's under the guise

(01:31:24):
of male and female. A lot of people and now
that we're at this point where we understand that, like
sexuality is a spectrum, I just don't believe in pigeonholing
people to where you feel like they need to be.
And I've had again conversations with young boys that would say, like,
I did this thing, but that shit is not for me.

(01:31:47):
And that's okay because you're still young. You're not even sixteen,
seventeen years old. Yet when you get it now, and
I'm not gonna say, oh, no, nigga, you're gay, I'm
gonna say you had an experience. I understand that you
know where you want to be in life. Have fun,
like what am I supposed to say to that, just
bash him, like, oh my god, doing gay shit. Like

(01:32:09):
if that's the case, these niggas be doing gay shit,
And I think that that's problematic, and that that makes
our kids depressed, that makes them sad, that makes them
with whole different parts of themselves. It brings forth aggression,
it brings forth. There's a lot of men that dead ass.
We spoke about this before that dead ass don't like women,

(01:32:30):
but they were told that they had to date them anyway.
And all you do is complain about all the ship
that bitches do because you don't really like them. You
really like other niggas. You really like other niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
You're not telling me that it has nothing to do
with gainness. That's not a sexuality thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
So you're telling me about a woman, everything that we
all know that women do, character traits of women, bother
you you telling me that that don't mean that you
just don't like women.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
It doesn't mean yes, it means you don't like women.
It doesn't mean you like men. So what it says
is is about No, this has nothing to do with sex.
It's about it's about the way the world sees me.
My access, my presence, the respect that the people who
I want respect from would have for me. Most of
the people that are like that are in cells or

(01:33:21):
have been heard or have been judged or whatever by women,
or feel like they or feel that they don't have
access more so, I think that's the number one rule,
number one thing. They don't have access to them because
they feel they're so much higher. The women feel there's
so much higher, and they also look at them as
if they are out of reach, like I don't fit

(01:33:45):
the kind of guy that you would like. So now
I need to tear you down. I need to bring
you down to my level. You women with your makeup
and your fucking wigs, and y'all getting paid for this,
and I gotta pay this for the fucking meal. I
don't have the money. When you have the wigging, that
eyelash and all that shit on, you don't talk to me.

(01:34:05):
So I'm gonna take that from you to bring you
back down to where I may feel you're more accessible.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
So is that like a mental illness, then I need
somebody classify that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
All I'm saying is not sexual. Y'all gotta stop saying
that that means he likes men. That just means that
he does not feel valid.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
So my question is under the guise of that conversation,
so you're willing, it's it's okay for people to have
sex with people.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
That they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Appreciate. That's so, that's fine. So then if that's the case,
then why can't men? I have to frame this correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Hold on, I'm cooking, drink bubbly in your head?

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
How can you champagne? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
How is it possible that men can like other men,
have sex with other men but not be considered gay?

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Who said that?

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Some men will say that that they've had experiences with men,
but they're not gay.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
I don't see how that relates to what we were
just talking about. But no, I personally think that if
you've had those experiences of urges or whatever, you're just
don't want the label of gay.

Speaker 4 (01:35:39):
There are men that literally will fuck niggas, be like,
I ain't no.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
F work right, but you fucking niggas, But they don't
want to identify as because that label is what they're
running from.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
So why is it that a man that only likes
to have sex with women but don't actually like women
in their totality? Why are they allowed to be straight?

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Thank y'all for tuning in the Part one man. Part
two was really good and it got funny. I don't
think we did too much more drama. DoD just asked
that question, and you know I had to answer for us.
So if you want to hear the full episode, go
over to soul Patreon dot com backslash So Shameless podcast.
You can hear the whole episode no ads right now,

(01:36:19):
or we will see you this Wednesday on Thursday. I
don't know, I'm I'm gonna drop it anyway. Social less
shams

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
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