The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon |SEASON 3 PREMIERE| Costa Da Morte

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I paid my way in, guys. It's exactly just like Bridget
did a long time ago, and look where she is now.
It's true. And if you're wondering why we
are here, it's because we're breaking down the Season 3
premiere, The Walking to Daryl Dixon, titled Costa del Mort,
which is interesting because it's a mixture of French and

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Spanish otherwise known. As Portuguese, it is technically
a blending. Besides the Portuguese thing.
They're close ish. On the map.
Together. I don't know.
I don't know. Give us the history.
I'm sure you looked it up, you punk.
That's why you're proposing thiswhole question.

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That's why he's making us look dumb first, so he can be like,
well, actually guys, well, I have the answer all along.
I just want to see if you had it.
Portugal has a deep historical tie to navigation and maritime.
Henry the Navigator was from Portugal and he was responsible
for navigating a good bit of theEuropean and African coast way
before anybody else did. Was I write write this down?

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No, not at all actually. Write this.
Write this down you. Went too far Sharon D.
All I was thinking was Cepsa brought up a lot of themes of
saying goodbye and learning to live life while you're alive.
Throughout the episode, Daryl and Carol finally talk about
what they experienced in the channel, and whereas they had
not, they cover silence throughout their entire journey
until now. And part of that was learning to

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let go of loss and grief. And there are themes that keep
popping up that remind us of that fact.
And so I think the show in its own way was kind of saying
goodbye to France because of thelast two years they were in
France. They developed a rapport for the
crew that they had assembled to be walkers and the geography,
the production, all of that, getting having relationships

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with Mont St. Michel and all that stuff and
filming there for two seasons, things like that.
So, you know, you develop kind of like a, I think it's like a
love letter to France basically in the process of in the same
name, we're transitioning to Spain.
That makes sense. Channel sounds like a dirty
word. Use it in a sentence I don't

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want. I command you now that I say
that. Why?
I'm really not going to do it. That was gross.
It's her fault. She's made it gross.
I think she made it gross. We all kind of like went well,
yeah, it's channel. That makes sense.
It just sounds dirty. It's broken glass.
Now. Now we're all thinking the same

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thing. Are we?
Yeah, I think we are, unfortunately.
As is custom. How does the title of this
episode, besides the little stupid thing I just mentioned,
now relate to what we just watched?
I think you hit the nail on the head with combining French and

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Spanish coming from one to the other with the crew and stuff
like that. In terms of the episode as a
whole, not being able to escape the coast, it's sending you
right back all the way, just onto a different country.
You're saying that you can't escape death?
Yeah, I would say so. Just putting words in his mouth.
Yeah, that's fine. Sometimes I need that it's OK.
Would you like some real information, Dave?

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Absolutely. Did you get?
Did you? Take this note I just looked up
now. No, I didn't so.
Gemini. The coast of death, even though
technically you would say death coast anyway.
Coast of death is Galician or Galician.
Or Galicia. Also known as the Lego for Coast

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of Death is a western Abiro Romance language and around 2.4
million people have at least some degree of competence in the
language, mainly in Galicia and autonomous community located in
northwestern Spain where it is the official language along with
Spanish. You're welcome.
The language is spoken in some border zones of the neighboring

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Spanish regions of I'm a Butcher.
All of these Asturias and Castile and Leon, as well as
Galician migrant communities in the rest of Spain and Latin
America, including Argentina, Uruguay and Puerto Rico, the
United States, Switzerland, and elsewhere in Europe.
Fun fact. Oh that's pretty cool, didn't
know Galatian was so prominent. And This is why I like listening

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to you guys, because I always learn things that I otherwise
wouldn't have looked up. Education I'm.
Going to. Force you to learn things.
I'm going to shove it in your face.
Sometimes that's what you got todo.
Argue love. And here is a little screen grab
of the hiking trails at the coast where Daryl and Carol

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landed too. You can even see very clearly
like the different difficulty levels, right?
And the big thing I wanted to note was that what you were just
saying earlier, Bridget, was that it's in the northwest of
Espana. Espana, yes.
Espana. I can't do this all season.
I can't. I can't do this, Bridget.
Sure you can. Sure you can.

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You take it like a man or not. It's OK.
You have freedom of choice. I'm leaving.
Have to learn how to say goodbye.
Any other takers for the title relating to this episode?
It's the way some of the coasts look in the show.
They look very bleak and Bony, especially at the beginning.

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We see the white cliffs of Doverand England and you see a
lighthouse which many, many, many ships have sunk on that
coast. That's why there's a lighthouse
there. When they get to the beach in
Spain with all of the boulders, it just looks very skeletal on
the beach, very Bony, and it's very devoid of color and bleak.
So I thought maybe that had a little bit to do with it is.

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Craggy. Like a good word for that?
I think craggy is more like, is that, like, sharp, jagged rocks?
Yeah. OK.
And of course, as my name says, Julian died on the beach.
RIP, Julian. Yeah.
Played by the funny funny funny Stephen Merchant.
I was so sad that he only lastedan episode.
Me. Too typical.

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I'm angry that he only lasted 1 episode.
Why bring someone like him on and then kill them off in one
episode? Half an episode I was very.
There isn't an actual reason. Yeah, you saw it too, right?
Yeah. The actual reason is if you did
look at the episode or insider, we coined this term from
Bridget. We have to credit Bridget every
time. Greg Nicotero really, really
wanted Stephen Merchant. They contacted him and he said

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I'll do it so long as I could die in the same episode.
He said that was his condition. He.
Didn't want like a big a long. Run.
No. Exactly.
They probably would have kept him otherwise.
He could have died eventually. Right, so I have to be mad at
Stephen Merchant instead. His exact wording was I can only
give you 1 episode. Yeah, so they they wrote them

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off so. Which is already late.
It's a two week commitment at the high end too, because you
remember how we talked about this with couple directors and
showrunners and stuff like that,especially when it came to fear,
Fear The Walking Dead. Their turn around schedule was
very rigid. You get 2 weeks tops, sometimes
11 days. Don't withdraw my complaint
because I'm still mad that he died in the first episode, but I
don't blame the show now it's Steven.

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Here's the fault. I felt the same as you guys.
Then when I heard that factoid, I was like, OK, this makes me
feel a little bit. Better.
You know what? We're all.
We've got what we're looking. To blame somebody just like they
did in the show, right? Just like they did in Britain.
Yeah, sealing off, looking to blame somebody.
Let me go back to what you said about the cliffs of Dover and
the Seven Sisters. This was also mentioned in the
episode of Insider. Some of the drone footage that

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they they took of the coasts. What's interesting about the
Seven Sisters just to using thatone reference point, if you
actually look up the channel exit on the England side, then
map where the Seven Sisters is, you see Carol and Darrell taking
a very long roundabout route along the coast.
By the way, 27 sisters rather than going straight to London,

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they kind of wanted to get the drone footage and the scenery,
you know, like the production photos and and the beat roll
that they needed for for that sequence of them walking.
You know, rather than going directly to the very unseen it
route of going directly to London because it is very unseen
IT because I've taken it all theway straight to Westminster
where they ended up, by the way.It gives you a sense of grandeur

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when they do a big sweeping shotlike that over the cliffs and
everything. It kind of builds your
expectations. Like they did with season 2 even
before season 2 was a thing. When they showed the last
episode of season 1 with the Carol reveal and whatever at the
end, they showed like an early teaser for the second season
they did the same thing, sweeping shots of Daryl in the
countryside and what not. It was cool obviously.

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Same deal, same energy. So yeah, of course I I let it
pass. I just think it's a funny
thought going all the way aroundthe coast.
There is a parallel to this. I remember when we were talking
about the beginning or is it maybe it was the end of Season
1, but. Maybe it's Season 1.
Yeah, Dale, traveling to Monson,Michelle, he took the coast
coastal route to get there. Well, I think some of it is
maybe like a natural inclinationto be near water when traveling

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because it helps you to kind of keep your bearings.
For instance, on the ocean and there's only water, it's kind of
hard to keep your bearings and you would want to avoid cities.
That's the other thing, because they're going to be more
populated and then you run the risk of running into more dead.
Once they got into London and they were on the street and all
the walkers started to come out,it felt very much like episode
one with Rick in Atlanta when hewas starting.

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To get swarmed outside the checkpoint.
Yeah, and then certainly get swarmed.
And it also, once I got into thebuilding and were surrounded for
days. It had a lot of parallels to
Dawn of the Dead when they were trapped in the mall.
And it just felt like a George Romero zombie flicked at that
point, especially once they saw the reflection coming from
Julian's, wherever he was, and then signaling another survivor.

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Like, it felt very much like an old George Romero, you mean?
2000. Remake, yeah.
The remake I will include the remake because they had the guy
in the gun store but same vibe. Yeah, that was also used to fear
The Walking Dead, the flashing light in Season 1 when Chris saw
the light flashing in the building outside of the safe
zone. So I do want to mention that

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Julian, this whole being stuck in the fancy apart the posh
apartments, there's also some Easter eggs kind of referencing
the video games. Tell tales.
The Walking Dead. The use of the bells is
something that happens in Season1, Episode 4 of the Telltale
Walking Dead games, the episodesentitled Around Every Corner.

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There's a character that's introduced named Molly.
Previous to that, you see her inthe background, but she's just
like a flash of like a silhouette of a body like in the
background and you're like, who is that?
That's terrifying. She maneuvers typically on the
tops of buildings if she can, but she rings church bells to
move the walkers around the cityso that she can get to where she

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needs to go. And so.
How do you remember that? When when Julian rings the
bells, it, it immediately poppedin my head.
I was like, oh, it's like The Walking Dead game.
So. And even Daryl Mitts.
So smart. It is smart, so it's a clever
story device that we haven't seen yet in the TV show.
An opportunity, right? Where is it technically in
Virginia? I'm sure there are church bells,

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et cetera. Georgia, perhaps?
It was in. Savant one in season 2.
There's a fake church bell in season 2 when they're looking
for Sophia. Yeah, but it wasn't used in that
way. I've mentioned this on the
podcast at least twice. The theme of The Sole Last
Survivor in a City is kind of reminiscent of It's a film in
the English language, but it takes place in Paris, France.
It's when Day eats night. Or was it Night Eats Day?

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Yeah, it's a good movie, but I will say it reminds me even more
of. The night world, that's what it
is. 28 Days Later, which actually happens in in London.
The beginning of it. I know it was referenced a lot
at the very beginning of The Walking Dead starting because
the parallel between The WalkingDead comic books.
The first episode of the TV showshot for shot basically from the

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comic book and 28 days later is probably 1st 30 minutes ish is
almost identical. A man waking up by himself in
the hospital has no idea what's going on.
And I thought you were talking about the 19th world, by the
way. No.
OK, no, but the apartment reminded me of the apartment
from that movie. I think there was even the light
flashing trick and it's the ideathat he there, he's surrounded

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by the dead and the second he peeks his head out and makes a
single bit of noise that they kind of come out like they're
kind of fast zombies. I highly recommend it.
Again, it's in English, but it takes place in Paris and there
was some French and translation stuff like that.
But 2018 zombie film directed byDominique Crochet.
We've talked about it before. Yeah, yeah.
But it's good to refresh the audience.
You'll feel the vibes from that very apartment.

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It it's obviously very much French looking and obviously
they are filming in Spain. The backdrop is all CGI.
They made a London facade in a street in Spain.
I forget exactly which city, or maybe even in I.
Felt like I had seen those screenshots.
You know, when everybody was sending all those screenshots
around, they're filming in Spainand I was like, you monsters,

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why would you ruin this for me? Yeah, yeah, stop ruining it.
It did look like that shot of them walking down the street.
Spanish. Tweet right?
I don't know, Dave. Everyone was reposting them.
They're, I've been there in Spain and I'm like barf so.
They're hugging. Why is Carol half naked?
When you were talking about the other show or movie, you
mentioned fast zombies. Did you guys feel like these

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walkers were a little more active?
I feel like they moved a little faster.
I felt like they ran faster in some cases.
That has to do with the varianceof the wildfire virus.
When they were in the alley or something, the squids were
trying to get to them. It was like they were a little
bit under the level of the ones in France when they got shot up

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with the Go Juice, Go Juice. I especially noticed the
difference in the speed, specifically in the Walker that
had hung himself from the chandelier when he fell and then
came after Daryl. It looked like he was very
quick. He was like almost running it
seemed like. And Julian was quite fast.
As he was. Yeah.

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He was also just died though, sothere's also that as.
True, I know that other one. That one had been dead for a
while. The chandelier one.
Yes and no. I was thinking the same thing.
The first thing I noticed was ifhe had been hanging there for a
really long time, he would have fallen apart.
Sure. Neck would have I was.

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Thinking the same thing, or thatwith all the wiggling that
chandelier or the rope would have given.
Yeah, now granted. You saw?
People. And he did begin wiggling more.
He saw a Walker fall apart in front of Daryl on the street.
Yeah, just his head just popped.Yeah, he said just.
Just. Came off.
It's like with minimal force that tree Walker didn't seem

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like a lot. The tree had grown and taken his
head with it and it was like that.
That's pretty rad. Awesome.
Well, but going back to your chandelier Walker, that's what I
was thinking, too. It's a mirror, kind of like for
Julian. You last this long and it's like
you don't see any people. Julian never came to this guy
and did the mirror thing and then dropped in from the
balcony. For all he knew, he was the last

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man on Earth. Yeah, and he looked more fresh
than the others. Did you feel that, too?
That's kind of where my head wasat.
Yes, but he looked. Darker, but he.
Was also in a building he didn'thave the opportunity for for
nature to grow around him. I don't want to say well.
Even compared to the other walkers in the apartment, he did
look a little fresher. Yeah, I would.

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Agree that doesn't make a ton ofsense because why would you hang
yourself if there's 2 zombies just loose in your apartment?
Well, what if Carol and Daryl opened some of the doors and
they just came in? It follows them directly from
the door, so. It's also possible those people
had died and he said I can't live with myself anymore than on
themself. And maybe it was.

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Very. And they hadn't.
They hadn't reanimated yet. He also probably wouldn't have
even cared if they found him like that.
Maybe he died last then for I don't know.
It could be any combination of the three.
Story for us to write ourselves like.
For at least a little while. Right.
Well, and he was hanging. He did.
That was definitely not natural causes.
No, we're already like past the eleven seasons of The Walking

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Dead and a couple of spin offs later.
But when they walked through theapartment, and I know just from
my own personal experience, whenthey're doing location scouting,
on more than one occasion they went to my apartment to find
like a very asshole looking apartment at the time when I was
living in Greenpoint. I know that when they looked for
this apartment, they wanted to find apartment that looked very
British, maybe a British expat in Spain to look the most

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British apartment ever. And so for the first time when
they when they walked in to the apartment, I was thinking to
myself, oh, all these little knickknacks and set that set
pieces and stuff like that. It's so interesting that they're
trying to tell a story just withthe visual components that are
in the scene. And I don't want that to go
underappreciated. I know that they have this sort
of situation going throughout The Walking Dead, but things are

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moving so fast, people are dying.
You don't really get a chance toreally kind of appreciate the
fact that you can tell a story based on that, those elements
alone. And then you add the people or
walkers in the scene and you candevelop it even more.
And I just thought that was an interesting touch.
It was a thing that I always thought maybe I could do after I
got my degree in interior designwas like set design.

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It is so cool how much detail there is in everything for you
to see it for 2 seconds. Makeups the same way.
You spend. Spend 4 hours on a piece and you
see it for a split second as thecamera like pans across.
You're like. Well, then having to touch it up
again, yeah. Yeah.

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Blood sprints from a neck. Onward and upward.
We're done with that scene, that.
Was great guys. Let's do it one more time, OK?
That's it, That's it. Well, that's that's life.
It's a mandala effect. You make these mandalas of sand,
these little beautiful sand paintings.
I was like, wait, what? It's kind of I was.

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Like wait a minute, I've never heard that's the Mandela Effect.
Yeah. And then you then you wipe the
Mandela away and that's that's, that's.
When you remember the Mandela, you made differently.
Yeah, exactly. No, that's not what I made, but
it actually is what you made. Yeah, no, he's talking about
Mancala, the game. That's when you remember playing
it differently as a kid. This is like my, oh, she's

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effing with me face. What?
Maybe she's right. Anyway, on the boat, Daryl is
having this sort of flashback. It's very brief.
Oh, it's like for a split second, yeah.
Now we we know why he's thinkingit because immediately
afterwards he talks to Carol. Did do you think Laurel made it

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right? But I kind of want to talk about
the greater significance of thatscene or or that thought that
he's having. If you don't know what I'm
talking about, this is these arelike some very, very rapid fire
shots of this concept I'm going to show.
Do you have? Screenshots I do great.
I love that because it's so fast.
I really only saw the kid with like the sign in the background.

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That's all I saw, too. I saw, I saw.
A kid in the like feet running. That was like in the feet
running. That's all I remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, Good call.
OK, so this is the first flash that you get and obviously it
looks like a trailer park, but like a obviously in the 70s,
maybe even late 60s. No, but it's we have less money,
Dave, when you live in a trailerpark, so.

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Well, look at the station wagon that's parked there.
It looks kind of late 70s, maybeearly 70s.
I was also thinking like campground.
It's well. It's a trailer.
Park, it's, it's a trailer park,but yeah, sometimes people just
have a camper that's their trailer.
You could push for early 80s Dave.
Yeah, I don't disagree. My friend growing up had almost

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the same model Lincoln station wagon where we all piled into
the back without seatbelts facing the other way.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The people behind the car. My great grandparents had that
car, but it was Anne. I see we drove in that color,
the wood panel trunk and the Navy blue in the sides too.

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But when more of us came out of our respective mother's wombs,
there were too many kids, so they put the entire thing flat.
We all just like, wiggled aroundin in like Highway Traffic with
no seatbelts, just playing gamesin the in the back, you know?
You lived, you're fine. Yeah, we're we're OK.

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It was dicey a couple of drives.It was a different time.
Yeah, it was a different time. Thanks, Rob.
I appreciate that. What you can see, though clearly
as opposed to not very clearly, is the license plate.
Now, I did a tiny bit of digging.
The license plate on the stationwagon itself on the bottom right
is green lettering with a white or cream background and it's B

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as in Boy 11739. I don't know what state that is.
The closest I could figure was maybe Georgia, maybe North
Carolina, but more on the North Carolina side looking up at old
license plates. It does kind of look similar to
the old first in flight. Plates, old Florida license
plates I think were green and white.
Yeah. And some of the commercial
license plates also had that type of where there's like a

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space between the 1st letter or the first few letters and the
rest of the numbers, as well as the commercial license plates
all had generally among many states had the green lettering
with the white background. Georgia in particular, though,
would have a big either the Peach State at the top or in big
Georgia at the top. I don't think it matters too
much because people have different plates and don't

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switch them when you move. The fact of the matter is that
if this is young Daryl, which is.
Yeah, well, that's the. Discussion that we're having if.
It's young Daryl then. This is Georgia.
Him and Merle grew up in Georgia.
They were country boys and neverleft.
Right. Yep.
Yep. I was just wondering because
were they always in Georgia? Yeah, I don't know.
No, yes, they, well, they. Were Daryl says it in Season 4.

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Yep, he says. He's never been outside Georgia.
I think the more telling part ofthis is the dead end sign.
Like I mean, a little it's on those, right?
It's it's, but that that I thinkis what you're supposed to focus
on, is the dead end sign. Not us.
We focus on everything. There's an American flag back
there. I'm just kidding.
Well, you'll get to see it a lotbetter in the next frame

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actually. OK, so first you see this.
Can you see this? Yeah, you can.
And this is like the 1st frame of the second.
Oh man. As it goes back to good.
Casting for a split. 2nd. Yeah.
He's a Spanish actor. And, well, if it's supposed to
be Daryl, that's a young boy, that's pretty good.
He kind of looks. Like.
So that's the discussion I wanted to have because and what

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he says is basically got to go now.
Daryl runs away from home. Like he said, I was really young
when this all happened. We're not going to get into the
timelines, but it's roughly what, 13 years at this point?
Because he's been in France for how, I don't know how, God knows
how long. It was like 3 months after he
left. We're not going to get into
this, but I'm just like, it feels like it was about three

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months after he left when Carol finally went after him.
And then because he never came back, and then however long it
took for Carol to get to him, rescue him, and for Laurel and
Ash to head back to America, purportedly, which is the hope
that he's having when he's having these thoughts.
So I would give them a year Max maybe.
That just opened up a whole bunch of other questions in my

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mind about other things, but. About it being 17 PDI and The
Walking Dead, dead dead city. Yeah.
And how long it's going to take for them to catch up.
Only that that'll also imply because Michonne found Rick,
what, a year after she left and then got back pretty quickly.
And that means he left and then within that three months, Rick
came back. Yeah.

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Yeah, a year after Michelle left.
In some months. Oh quickly.
And we still technically don't know who Carol was trying to
tell him was back. She said her visions were back
or something like that last season.
Her trauma was coming back up over Sophie.
Do you think that was what she was telling him over the radios?
So she is back is what she is, what she says today, OK.
Well, because he directly asked her.

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He says who? You said someone was back and
she says that. And I was like, that's a cop
out. Yeah.
It's been so big, Percent A. 100% that's so vague.
We're not going to really. So we do we.
What's the consensus here though?
Do we? Do we think this is Merle?
I'm voting for Merle. I think that looks more like
Michael Rooker. Honestly, it could be either one
where you're seeing. It from Daryl's point of view.

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So I would say that it would be Merle.
And you said he's saying got to go.
Didn't Daryl say that Merle lefthim behind?
Like that was something when they were talking that he was
like you left me behind and he was like I had to go.
So I think that is definitely Merle.
Yes. So who said got to go?
Is Daryl to him? And actually the sub titles say
this. It's Daryl and then brackets

(26:51):
thinking got to go now. Interesting.
I was going to say he's got a black eye and a bloody lip and
that was the thing was their dadused to beat on them.
And Merle would take the lion cheer.
But Merle took the brunt of it so.
Well, let's be more traumatized with this next very next frame.
Or flash I should say, from the flashback.

(27:13):
And it's Merle screaming at Daryl.
Isn't that heartbreaking? Because we had mentioned this
when it came to talking about Codong and his brother and how
there was an opportunity for Darrell to say, I know what, I
know what you're going through. But like he didn't do that.
And here they're purposely bringing up finally, there's a
thing that I don't think he's fully processed with Merle.
I mean, I think he appreciated the fact that he came back for

(27:34):
him and wrote a lot of wrongs, but there's a little bit of
processing. I'm going to do this thing that
we do. I don't know if I'm seeing the
same thing you guys are. First of all, I I think I missed
this particular flash because I don't remember seeing this.
Face. To be fair, I didn't see this
face. But to me, this doesn't look
like someone angry. This is a sad look at the

(27:58):
position of his eyebrows. If he were angry, his eyebrows
would be furrowed and down. Instead they're This is sadness.
He's. Like he's pleading, Yeah, this
is this. Is agony, not anger?
In the moment, yes, but afterwards, I'm sure Merle was
angry at Darrell for leaving himfor all the beatings that he

(28:19):
took. No, you're.
All those years. No, no, no, it Merle.
Left. Daryl left, I thought.
Daryl left No. Daryl would run away from home
and hide in the woods, but he ended up coming back and his dad
never noticed him. That's what he always said.
Because he doesn't mention Merleduring that, we're led to
believe that that's in the time in which Merle had left.

(28:40):
And. That Daryl would run away from
home periodically during that time and just camp out in the
woods. That's why he's so good at being
in the woods and living out there.
So that maybe it isn't Merle, maybe it's sterile.
And I feel like there's a there was a specific time where and
maybe maybe multiple times whereMerle went to juvie or jail.
Oh, that's a. Good point too.

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Yeah, he definitely did after hewas 18.
But I don't know about juvie potentially.
I mean, they got in trouble as kids.
I guess the main reason why I brought all of this up is
because I kind of hope we get tosee more of this.
It's kind of like the William T Dixon grave that we found in.
France first season. Amazing.
And things like this are kind ofcool.

(29:21):
This is memory recollection which like this gives us like a
murky area because they said. No pre apocalypse flashbacks,
right? Apocalypse.
But this is how you remember things, yeah?
So this is murky. You can like maybe make this
work. You know what it is?
You can see Scott Gimple being like don't go any further.

(29:42):
Oh, Scott Milhouse. Simple anyway.
Thank you for having screenshotsof that because I did not see
all of that. I figured you guys would
appreciate it just because. Definitely.
It's just super interesting to see that again, it's that whole
point of view of look at the thought that went into this, or
at least the location scouting. Look at all the junk on the

(30:04):
screen that I put on earlier, but you can't see now, but it's
still on my screen. There's a rotating fan in the
background. There's a small refrigerator
that the fan is on. There's a green and white cooler
on the bottom right that is of the error, or at least maybe 10
or 20 years prior. There was a plastic kiddie pool
on the side. And yeah, I mean, I can't
obviously capture that one thingthat you did remember, which was

(30:26):
that kid running away. And like that.
It was blurry too, but he was running away.
It's the only thing you kind of remember from that scene,
besides the shouting. The hot dogs, OK, hot dogs kept
coming up. I was kind of hoping you
wouldn't go there. Here is my first screenshot of
the hot dogs. The can says Ye ancient and
whatever it is. So I thought that was kind of

(30:47):
funny, Ye ancient hot dogs. That is funny.
Canned hot dogs? Such a weird thing to me.
It's a British thing, yeah. But it's a thing that remained
post World War One and Two. And this is something that we
talked about in, well, not only Daryl Dixon season 1, I think it
was, but also The Walking Dead World beyond when it came to
talking about Lieutenant ColonelKublik, because she had all

(31:08):
these wartime posters from WorldWar One and two from the
British. We've talked about canning and
the US sending canned goods to the British to kind of replenish
their stocks. And and we're going to be
talking about it again in this episode.
There's a small tongue in cheek reference that Stephen Merchant
shows as they're toasting to America.
Does it keep calm and. Bugger off.

(31:30):
I thought it was motor on. It's keep calm and carry on as
the original saying, but that's not what he said.
Here is the other screenshot of the can of hot dogs.
It's the two days later. Daryl went through this place 10
times over, didn't find much of anything, but they're not going
to starve. They have enough.
And she's looking at the hot dogs thinking, you know, is this
the last meal and E ancient dogs.

(31:51):
But if you look at this screenshot that can looks very
banged up and moldy like crusty and on the outside like bubbly
which is never a good sign. My first thought was that they
threw that in there for the Carolers, Carol and Daryl.
You need to elaborate on that. You have to say the thing out
loud. What do you mean by that?
I don't know what you mean by that.

(32:12):
Sharing wieners, of course I'm gonna.
Bark it. Didn't make me think of that one
expression of oh, she's so loose.
It's like throwing a hot dog down the hallway.
Oh. My God.
Rob It was a different time. It wasn't even my time.
I've heard that before, of course.
Why you're so young and preciousAngel baby Rob.

(32:34):
I wish. Like, he's only a little younger
than us, actually. Well, there's that, maybe, But
living life while you're still alive?
Or Julian Chamberlain says that in the episode as well.
I spent so much time saving, preparing, and then the thing
happened and I didn't get to save and prepare for the thing
that I wanted, which is probablya person to settle down with.

(32:55):
Carol is doing the same thing. I'm saving this one thing for a
special occasion when you never know when your ticket gets
punched. And Daryl's sort of doing the
thing with the Scotch. He's like more Scotch.
Let's have more Scotch. Who cares if it runs out?
OK, We'll find more, maybe, probably.
Who cares if we don't? There's two competing themes
here. Sound like they're gonna run out
of Scotch. That's sort of what I think.

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But as Julian says, they could. If you live a long life, they
could. Eventually they'll be the last
Scotch ever. Oh sure, unless you make it.
Several times over they talk about they're like, oh, do we
have more of this? And Carol is like, and Daryl,
well, we've got more Scotch, more Scotch than tea, more
Scotch. Than ever ending Scotch you.

(33:37):
Know whatever? Yeah.
And yet she's saving the hot dogs.
How glorious would it be to finda jar of sugar after all that
time? Which she does, yeah.
I know. Although it bothered me so much
that she licked her dirty fingers and stuck it in there.
I think it doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
It wouldn't bother you. Give me apocalypse.

(33:57):
Apocalypse wise, no. But as if you were watching, I'm
like, oh, please wash your hands, Carol.
She'll wash them afterwards. It's fun.
It's fun. She could just rinse them off
with the sky. Finding the taffy, it's like.
Yeah. What are the odds you would find
that? He saved a piece of.
Taffy not go bad after 17 odd years I.
Don't know if it would go bad, but I bet it would be hard.

(34:18):
It goes hard. Hard.
Yeah, yeah. You might break a tooth.
I love how Daryl saved a piece of taffy for Carol, but Carol
didn't tell him about the sugar.Well.
Because she stuck her stuck her saliva finger and then.
She walked away and left it openon the counter.
I was like, you're wasting it, cover it back up.
She's saving the hot dogs but not the sugar.

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Priorities. But I wonder if this theme will
come up a lot in the season, because often the first episode
lays the groundwork for what we're expected to see.
Did Laurent make it? That may be a theme that comes
up. Why do we save certain things
but don't save others? Should we in?
Like many things in this series,both Nuggets of wisdom could be

(35:01):
true. Maybe you could save things for
a special occasion. But maybe we should live while
we're alive. Jolene Chamberlain.
The sugar reminds me of when Carol was creepy.
Carol and Alexandria, when they first joined, and she was baking
the cookies. You remember, she goes to look
for sugar. Yeah.
And she can't find it. And that's why she does the
beets. That's why the cookies end up
being pink. And then she's at a point now in

(35:23):
her life where, like, she finds sugar and she just leaves it
open and walks. It's just like very different.
You got to think that they had probably have more sugar at
Commonwealth, right? Oh, yeah, I guess because they
make ice cream. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff
I'm like baffled by because I'm like, where?
Who's refining it? Factories are these.
Growing cane sugar. Be a sugar cane operation going

(35:45):
on down in the Caribbean still. Wherever they're getting their
coffee breaks. Wherever they're getting their
coffee from. There's a whole world we haven't
explored in that arena. Like who?
Where is the slavery occurring to make this coffee?
Can we start there? While we're in that little area
with Carol, I do want to say that that her fire extinguisher
kill was really awesome too, andit just popped.

(36:06):
That was great. Although Bridget talking to you,
because I think she would say this if she was unmuted, she
would say but you have to replace fire extinguishers every
number of years because they stop working.
You do. I don't know that they stop
working. They claim that they're not as.
Fire retardant. Because we have to pay like an
insane amount of money to get them.

(36:26):
Recharged. Redone.
Maybe they're getting fresh fireextinguishers where they're
getting their coffee and their sugar.
Yeah, exactly. It could just be a government
scam for more money because the city has to come in and check to
make sure that the fire hydrantswork and then conveniently every
three years they're saying that they need something done so.
Well, the way to test that is tostart a fire when one's expired

(36:49):
and try to use it. That's true.
That's why I invited Bridget to answer that question further.
And Rob just made it sweeter. Love it, love it.
So they cheers to America. And Stephen Merchant says just
this very quick quote that comedian Tommy Trinder said
about Americans oversexed, overpaid and over here.
I beg to differ on the overpaid.That was a World War 2 saying

(37:13):
from when our men were stationedin Britain, and let's just say
that we were Americans. Well let me elaborate on that
because I did do a little bit more research.
Obviously they were making theirlittle tongue in cheek British
way of making fun of Americans. The original quote is actually
not from Tommy Trender, but the original quote equally making
fun of Britain, underpaid, undersexed and under Eisenhower.

(37:36):
Going back to the Americans, thesad tale of this joke is that at
the end of World War 2, Britain was in a sad terrible state.
No money, no food in many parts of England, London in
particular, and what it ended uphappening is many girls went
into the oldest profession and because the American men had so

(37:58):
much money to go around, I'm notsaying that was the blind share
of their economic boom, but I'm not not saying it was.
So that's where the joke comes from.
Oversexed, overpaid and over here as they're making British
babies maybe also. Definitely did happen.
Yeah, that's where the phrase Boomers came from.

(38:18):
Moving on, does anybody want me to go through the squid Cockney
rhyming path again? Yes, please, because I was like
how did we get to quid and why is that squid?
But. OK, so it is an extreme version
of it that probably doesn't actually make sense nor exist,
but it might as well be. But is everybody familiar with

(38:40):
this cockney rhyming thing wherethings are named?
The one I know the most is trouble.
If you're in trouble, you say you're in Barney.
Because Barney Rubble trouble. You're in, Barney.
I just looked up a quick reference of common cockney
things. When you say apples and pears,
they're referring to stairs. Example, I'm going up the apples
or going up the pears. Trouble and strife wife example.

(39:04):
The trouble and strife is waiting for me.
God. Dog and bone is one of the
phrases he mentioned in the route to getting squid phone
example. I'll give you a bell on the dog
and you a bell on the dog and give you a ring on the phone on
the dog. Anyway, that's I know I had the
same reaction. Butcher's hook.

(39:24):
Look, example, give us a butcher's at that.
So like, let me look at that. And here's another example.
Plates of meat is one of the words phrases that he said.
Plates of meat equals feet. Example.
My plates are killing me After that walk.
Let me do the whole thing. Now I'm abbreviating too, by the
way, so it makes more sense. Departed souls, souls of feet,
plates of meat, meat pie, dog's eye, dog bone phone, your mate

(39:49):
kind of plate. So China plate and cup.
Cup of Rosie equals Rosie Lee equals tea.
By the way, that's that whole cup of Rosie Rosie tea.
That's just a small tea route togetting to tea.
Teapot lid. So lid, which is a quid, which
is where we got to squid. It still doesn't really make
sense. That last bit is like is where

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it falls off completely. Yeah, it doesn't make a ton of
sense. This is when they have to ask
their British actors like Laurenor Andrew if this makes sense.
It doesn't either of them are cockney, so it's still.
Not gonna be I. Mean usually when it comes to
these things, it's just the one thing so departed soul souls of
feet. So like you would you just do

(40:31):
souls or feet? At the end of the day, I'm just
really excited to hear yet another term for Walkers I.
Me too, I know. I love hearing.
And an interesting one at that all.
Right, Yep, I think this is probably the most interesting
one we've got. All the other ones have like
biter, growler, skin bag, squid takes some explanation.

(40:53):
I will say the first one we everheard is the weirdest and being
geeks, well I that's the second one cause Morgan said Walker's
first I guess. But.
OK, I do have a question becausenormally cockney slang, as far
as I know it's a thing. Stairs, apples and pears rhymes
with it. So that's where you get it.
It's not a slew of them in a rowto get to another word.

(41:14):
That's what I was saying. So that's what I'm a little bit
confused about. So if anybody is watching this
that is Cockney, if you can please comment so I can
understand why such a long line because now I get it.
If you're saying from the very beginning we're talking departed
souls, fine, but quid just squidmade no sense because when he
did that whole line I was like oh he's just giving examples of

(41:35):
cockney slang and then he gets to quit and I'm like how does
money have anything to do with people?
I'm so confused. I'm trying to find deeper cut
and I'm finding them like almonds.
Almond refers to alarm. Give.
Give us an almond. Give us an alarm just because it
sounds like almonds. If you add an S to quid, but
then you switch the S back around to the front, then it

(41:56):
becomes squid quids. Squid, yeah.
That's exactly it. OK, Syrup of figs.
Fig means wig. OK, Just you know.
Right. Yeah, but they're direct
correlations. That's what I don't understand
with this is like it would have made more sense if it was
departed souls and then it was something that rhymes with
departed souls. Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, that would. Have made no sense.

(42:17):
To me. So it started with departed
souls, and then people kept adding on to it until finally it
morphed into squid. Squid.
Yeah, yeah, I got one. I got one that's a lot simpler.
So Departed Souls rhymes with bulls.
Then we think of Sam Anderson who had a bull haircut which
cost a quid. Quid squid maybe?

(42:38):
It his mother cut his hair and cost him anything Dave.
Yeah, but it was, it was the principle of the matter.
You had to give something. Quid pro quo?
Yeah, so let's go to the Westminster Crossing just for a
SEC, just so I can show you another screenshot of the actual
checkpoint. You couldn't get all of it if

(42:58):
unless you'd paused at the rightmoment.
Something about the way the sun was shining, but observed
curfew. It's basically 6:00 PM to 8:00
AM in at night or shot on site. I love the little rhyming I
feel, and I think Sharon D probably thought this as well.
I think a lot of this has to do with it's been a little under 10
years since Brexit. That's where a lot of the whole

(43:21):
ceiling off the tunnel comes from.
They basically sealed England off or the UK off from the rest
of the world, or at least the island, Wales, England,
Scotland, etcetera. Do you think that may have been
what was expressed here? It's like, well, yes, you did
sealed everything off and everything was good for a little
while, but then instead of blaming Europe for your
problems, you blamed yourselves eventually because you had

(43:42):
nobody else to blame. That sort of situation is the
sentiment. Whether it's true or not is a
whole of the story. It also said that you had to
have a British passport to enter.
That's exactly it, yeah. I should have taken a screenshot
of that, but as they were walking to the gate, yeah.
Dave, really for looking at thisfrom like through the lens of
the apocalypse, I don't know that it even needs to be like
topical or anything like that. It's just that there becomes a

(44:05):
tribe mentality, like US versus them mentality that just occurs
naturally. Especially if you came from a
place where things were providedfor and.
It just occurs. It occurs.
I think it occurs in everything.I mean, take a look at COVID.
It was very US versus them. Eventually in a, in a world in
which you have less resources, it becomes about resources and
you don't want to share them with people outside of who you

(44:27):
view as part of your tribe. And then I think it's a
statement on probably living on an island, period.
That's always the risk that you run is you can close yourself
off to the outside world, but when does it become a prison?
And that's that's the road I wanted to go down.
When do you get trapped there? Because earlier you were saying
that being on the coast, you have more Ave. but if you're on

(44:48):
the coastline and you get attacked from the land side and
you don't have a boat, you're trapped there, what are you
going to do, swim to Spain? That is not the best place to
be. And even if they tried to close
England off, they can't close off every port.
They can close off the tunnel that people can't walk there
anymore. But you still have miles and
miles and miles of empty coastline that that can be

(45:09):
landed on. So shutting yourself off like
that is not really a vibe viableoption anyway.
Well, it's more of like they seal themselves in the city and
everything else is buffer zone. Everything else is out there,
which kind of makes sense. And if you look at Britain's
geography or topography, I couldsee that being a thing because
if you've ever driven anywhere outside of London or further out

(45:31):
from London, because I think I feel like everybody kind of
congregated in London. If I'm not mistaken, it was a
bit of traveling from the Channel all the way to London.
And even Daryl was saying how wedidn't see much of the living or
much of the dead either. So maybe there wasn't anything.
Maybe they did properly seal themselves off for a time.
If you're crazy enough to kind of a little while take to the

(45:53):
seas, yeah, then maybe they weretoo busy dealing with other
stuff to actually take to the seas.
You look at medieval times, way built castles with moats and
etcetera, and that was because when they were attacked, all of
the farmers in the outer lands that could make it would come to
the castle behind the walls and be safe.
So yes, I mean that would be thenatural thing for everybody to

(46:14):
do. But then you have all these
people crammed into this tiny little place.
I just watched a documentary about Andersonville Prison,
which was a notorious Confederate prison during Civil
War. It was in Georgia and it was 20,
6 acres and it was built for like 3300 men but in the end
they had 45,000 men in there andthey had. 3300 men.

(46:36):
Yes, it was 40. Wow, so disease, big problem.
No sanitation, no clean air, no clean water.
And you have to imagine that's the same kind of thing that's
going to happen in an enclave like London.
If you have all the people from the surrounding countryside and
cities, everything coming to London, not only are you going

(46:57):
to have people who die and turn to walkers, but you've got all
the disease that's going to comewith that because you don't have
proper sanitation anymore, you don't have clean water, there's
not enough food and all those people are going to starve to
death or they're going to die ofdisease.
Are you saying that like poopy, they didn't let it flow?
Correct, Tims, which neither oneof them seem to recognize.

(47:17):
I don't understand that. But anyway, the Tims obviously
is flowing, but how dirty is that going to be?
It's kind of dirty right now. Like I wouldn't swim in the
Thames River. But after a while, you know, not
a lot of flushing toilets. No, but it is.
Clean. But what are they doing with all
the sewage in London? Dumping it right back into the
Thames. It flowed.
Flowed. It flowed out into the.

(47:38):
And then there's, you know, got bodies and all the other things
falling in the waters. Yeah, that's the problem you're
going to have. Well, and look at how they were
crowding on those at London Bridge, right at the base of it.
You know, what's the place? They missed such a great
opportunity to have London Bridge fall down.
I was like, London Bridge is going to fall, come on.
Well, it see, but they, they drew it up so there was no
opportunity for it to fall. But that wasn't the point.

(48:00):
Because you remember the whole thing about London Bridge
falling was that back then it was like a a place where vendors
would. Right.
Sell their wares, right? And eventually it piled up and
the whole thing was that eventually weighed down and that
fell. They had like homes and stuff
were built on it, yeah. I did mine like.
At least like structures, yeah. There's another London Bridge

(48:20):
that is currently in Lake Havasu, Arizona.
A man bought London Bridge. They dismantled it brick by
brick. They numbered all the bricks so
they knew where to put them backwhen they brought it to it.
But they shipped it to America and rebuilt London Bridge in
Lake Havasu, Arizona. It's there now.
You go see it. I want to know.
Dennis said that Robert McCullough, who started the
McCullough chainsaw line, is theone who bought it and brought it

(48:43):
over here. Gotcha.
Thanks, Dennis. He.
Said thanks, Dennis. That's right, you don't have to
go to the past or England, but it's different now.
I appreciate that they brought Big Ben into it.
That was really cool. Well, they're right in
Westminster too. Yeah, so it makes it.
Which is it, by the way? If you ever stay in England it's
one of the cheaper areas to stayin for some reason.
If I ever get out of the US. Yeah.

(49:06):
Never been out of the United States, so.
Just don't stay in White Chapel.Say never, say never.
To be fair, there's plenty to look at here also, Rob, so
don't. I love this country.
Don't get me wrong, same here. But I do want to experience
things outside. I was there but I was an infant
so I've 0 recollection and they almost didn't let my parents
take me back so. To what?

(49:27):
While you were there. You could be part of the royal
family right now, Bridget. It's.
True. My dad had black hair, my mom
had very dark brown hair, and they had a little redheaded baby
who looked like neither of them.I stole some Scottish baby.
I didn't need a passport to get over there, but they had to go
to the embassy and get me a passport in order to get.

(49:47):
Back I'd be having that issue. That's my kid.
I recently researched this too. By the way, if you have a baby
abroad, you weren't born abroad,were you?
No. No.
OK, if you're an American citizen and you have a baby
abroad, it's not like here whereyou can be a citizen.
You literally have to file papers to record it and file
paperwork in America to make that baby an official citizen.
It's quick, but you still have to do it.

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It came up recently in a conversation I had.
But going back to what you were saying about, because I had said
this before about Japan, like I didn't want to come back.
But then I was recently in Connecticut and we drove around
a little bit and I had a moment.I said, this country is pretty
great too. There's so many cool little
things to see that probably go unnoticed.
And they aren't on tourist maps.But it's just that like the feel
and the culture of this country is there's so much of it that

(50:33):
you take it for granted, but there's so many cool little
things, quirky little things that people do in little towns.
Rachel and I told you, Dave, it doesn't matter where we go.
We want to live wherever we are vacationing.
It doesn't matter where it is. That's one of the things I love
about driving around traveling is I get to see things that
normally I wouldn't. And it can be anything like a
little fairy house built into somebody's tree that I passed or

(50:53):
a neat mural that I pass on a building.
And then I've been all over thiscountry and there is plenty,
plenty to see here. And some of that stuff, it just
isn't in travel guides and booksand stuff like that.
It's just, Oh yeah, visit. There's a church here that you
might want to check out, blah, blah.
That's what actually got me on that thought process because I
was thinking, look at this beautiful church, this small
little town, and it's so gorgeous.

(51:15):
And I thought to myself, well, that would never show up on a,
Can you imagine a tourist from Japan hearing about this church
and Nowhere, Connecticut coming out to rural north and they're
snapping photos because I was just in Japan.
That's why it's in my head. And they're like, oh, look.
And they're like, what are you? What are you doing, Sir?
Like, oh, I heard about this beautiful church in nowhere,
Connecticut where they don't call it nowhere, but I'm calling

(51:37):
it nowhere and they're celebrating it.
And, and like, is that how we are in their country about their
middle of nowhere rural shrine in the middle of in Japan, rural
Japan? Oh, this is where they got their
inspiration. Breath of the Wild.
Listen, I'm going on the thing, but going back to the episode.
They've went on a Nintendo journey.
Yeah, learning to appreciate where you are because eventually

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this is going to be a theme thatrepeats.
Also, this is repeated from for several seasons.
Season 1, Season 2. What are we doing here?
Why don't they go back to America already?
Right. The whole thing go back to Rick.
He's obviously home. Well, no, I'm here now.
People are need your help. You need to live while you're
alive. You need to for wherever you are

(52:21):
because you don't know if your ticket's going to get punched
tomorrow. So while you're here, make an
impact while you're here, whether it's saving people or
whatever, feeding people or finding a way out of somewhere
or snuggling your sweetie, as Rachel hates when I say.
So I think, I think John Lennon summed this up really well in a
song and he said life is what happens to you while you're busy

(52:42):
making other plans. One of my favorite things is
growing up too. I mean, I've been working on
this. It's still a focus in my life,
but contentment with where you are, there's so much.
We're being fed constantly everyday and social media to tell you
like, you need to have this to be happy or your house should
look like this. Or you, your husband should act
this way or you as a wife shouldact this way and blah, blah,
blah. But really, why waste so much

(53:03):
time worrying about that when I could just be happy with the
things that I do have? Because there are people in this
world that don't have a house orfood or don't know where their
next meal is coming from. Yeah, definitely.
Try to do that every day, yeah. Yeah, as.
Long as I have a roof over my head, food in my belly, I'm
happy. Yeah, and that's the thing.
That's what this episode, at least so far, I don't know if
the rest of the season is tryingto express, is that two things

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can be true. There is abundance.
There's so much Scotch, there's not enough people to drink it.
But there is scarcity. And wherever you go, you'll find
people that are walled in, so they can't get to all the
Scotch, right, or the hot dogs and cans.
So there is scarcity for these people.
They can't have access to it. Whatever it may feel like today
in our life and our waking life that we have things, well, look

(53:44):
at We go to the grocery store. There's so much food to eat.
But a storm, a blackout comes. People raid the shells.
I've been there and they're all gone.
And there's not enough to eat. And now you're wondering, oh,
wait. Oh, where's my next meal coming
from? Yeah.
They but they only take they only take bread, eggs and milk.
I don't know why. And toilet paper hot.

(54:05):
Toile is going to be out, but damned if they're not making
French toast. So you also looked at the news
coming out of New York after Superstorm Sandy?
Well, it happens here. Every time there's a hurricane
warning, I go to the store and there's no bread.
Or if there is bread, it's like the cheapest bread.
Them say there's going to be a snowstorm here it's going to
snow an inch and it's like oh forget it the.

(54:28):
Grocery stores are all empty. Be trapped for a day.
Every time I'm like why are you not buying canned goods?
I don't understand. Why are you getting the
perishables? Why is that your go to?
You know what no keep doing? There is an answer.
There's an answer. No, keep doing it.
I'm. I know they're going to keep
doing it, but there is an answeris because just like you,
Bridget, you have faith that you'll pass through this moment

(54:48):
quickly, that there will be a tomorrow.
But I don't though. Oh.
But like in your heart of heartsand your Jesus heart.
It's, I mean, it's. Rachel, you're on mute.
The big facial reactions. Back when, back when folks had
an ice box and they didn't have to worry about it being
electric. They just kept ice in the
refrigerator and like, oh, we'regonna have a storm.
The milkman better bring us somemilk.
And then they'd stick it in there.
And then that's what their parents did.

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And then that's what their parents did.
And that's what you. So that's what you learned.
Is you just shop faster? Yeah.
I did not actually, I'm doomsdayprepper here.
So there's there's food stores at my house.
Don't come here. Tubs of patriots.
You're bringing that stuff when you, you're bringing that stuff
when you relate to a mountain, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Safety in numbers, right?

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Yeah, right, Rachel. Yeah, I just picking on you.
Oh, you're not on mute. Okay, 'cause she made like, just
like this big reaction, like visual reaction like, well, I
just want to hear this sultry. 'Cause I continually tell you
that I that's not true about me.And yet you're always like,
well, you believe in Jesus. Must be what you think every

(55:55):
time. Yeah, I listen to the Jesus
heart thing. It's fine.
Bridget's got. Faith in Jesus, just not in
other people. Amen, sister.
Catch 22. Exactly.
I have grace, just not a lot of it.
Turn the other cheek? Well, that's exercise.

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His mercies are new every morning, not mine.
I do not have enough time to mute that 'cause I lost my
lungs. See if there's any other Easter
eggs. OK, this was an interesting one
because right from the beginningof the episode, you're in the
Cliffs of Dover or Seven Sistersor wherever the hell it was.
They said Seven Sisters, whatever.

(56:37):
But you see a quote from RM Rilkey, right?
Which is stands for Raynor, Raynor Raynor Maria Wilkey.
And the poem is so. Exciting.
I forgot about it. I'm so excited.
OK, The poem is called Requiem for a Friend or slash Paula
Modison Becker. The poem is about Paula Otterson

(57:00):
Becker. She was an early expressionist
painter and she and Raina Maria Rilke were friends.
The poet was Austrian, so the poem was originally in Austrian,
but the poem has been translatedin English so that you could
read it in the episode. One of the few Austrian poets,
by the way, that wrote in Austrian German, starts off with
I have my dead and I have let them go.

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Hence repeating the theme of letting go of the past to move
on to the present, having your dead, remembering them well, and
moving into a transitional period of allowing yourself to
remember someone fondly without having that memory be filled
with sadness. So processing grief and letting
go. Death and life are inseparable
was the meaning of the poem, andtrue love means embracing both

(57:42):
one's life and death. Learning to accept that and
integrate it into your life is that both things are necessary
to live properly. Kind of like the scarcity versus
F it live mentality. Save the hot dogs or drink the
Scotch. Same thing.
One might even say it's a union of opposites.
It's the universal hexagram fromrevival.
Rob, you don't know what them dumb talking about, but if you

(58:03):
watch Survival and our coverage of Revival, you know what I'm
talking about. Eventually.
Maybe. I highly recommend that show.
It's very funny too. Not as money is us, but I'm not
going to read the poems. Why I'm here?
OK, But Bridge is very excited about this poem.
I am. OK, so here's the thing.
You got to remember, your girl was a very emo in the early

(58:24):
2000s, OK? And Raynor Maria Roki is a sad
boy. So this was.
A cause the death and loss of power of Bodus and Becca.
I was all about this because OneYour Girl also had a Sylvia
Plath phase so you can guess howbroody and mopey I was.

(58:46):
But there was also an emo band from Madison, WI that came out
in like the late 90s to mid 2000s called Rainer Maria, which
is the whole reason I even knew who Rainer.
Maria. Was because I liked the band and
then I ended up finding out about the poet anyway.

(59:08):
Beautiful poetry, truly. But he's he's a sad boy, and I
was a sad girl. And so I.
Was very into it. So let me read the first couple
of lines because this was mentioned in the explanation
that I read. I have my dead and I have let
them go and was amazed to see them so contented, the dead so
soon at home in being dead, so cheerful, so unlike the

(59:30):
reputation of oh, they're dead, so they're probably sad.
Only you return, Rush past me, loiter, try to knock against
something. So the dead have visited their
world. They're in apparition now.
Oh, don't take from me what I'm slowly learning.
I'm sure you've gone astray if you are moved to homesickness
for something in this dimension.We transform these things.

(59:50):
They aren't real. They are only the reflections
upon the polished surface of ourbeing.
This Is Us imagining them being in our world when really they're
at peace. We see what we want to see in
death. It's a projection.
They must be so sad. They must want to come back.
No, that's not true. And so in reading this, but it's
a very long poem. That's that's just the first
stanza, but it's about integrating what we imagine it

(01:00:12):
to be to what it actually is. There's a peaceful element to to
death and crossing over. And a lot of what you're feeling
right now is of the self. It's your loss.
It's them not being in your orbit.
It's very self-centered. Essentially, it's your grief and
you're entitled to it. But you have to learn after a
while to let go of that grief and to integrate all the

(01:00:33):
wonderfulness of that person while you were alive.
And then knowing that they are at rest now and now you have to
celebrate their life anyway. Sad boy poetry.
It's kind of cool. Did you want me to read more
Bridget? More sad boy poetry.
Yeah, I love it. But for the sake of everybody
else, no. Oh, I liked a little reference
to bat ish crazy. It was very.

(01:00:54):
Clever. I thought it would have been
something that we would have brought up that, oh, that's
where that comes from. We did not at the time.
At the end of I didn't know thatwas a thing.
Like, I didn't even think about that.
I very much enjoyed the opera binoculars Carol used to see
these seasons of the distance. Me too.
Great English prop opera. Shakespeare theatre heavy.
Terrell hating the Scots becauseof his one experience with

(01:01:16):
Scottish people in the Channel. I I slowly realized more and
more I am Daryl Dix. Yeah, I was just commenting on
this with Evelyn because I got very sick when I was in Uruguay
last year and I said at least I didn't blame because I got sick
from Argentina, from food in Argentina.
At least I do blame the country for, oh, it's an awful country

(01:01:39):
because I was sick in it. At least I wasn't Daryl Dixon is
basically what I said to her is to blame all Scots for that one
experience with Scottish people.You try having a French foreign
exchange student eat her birthday cake when you're 9,
Dave. He thought it was a free for
all. Can someone tell me how did
Carol get hurt? I totally missed that.
Dude, I have no idea. She was struggling with Walker

(01:02:01):
Julian on the beach. And like we were saying about
craggy things, there was a bit of driftwood and metal or
whatnot, like Twisted Metal, which I've been watching on
Peacock, by the way, and it's pretty great.
And she fell backwards onto it. You sort of get a quick, you can
see, I can see how you might have missed it.
I didn't even catch that becauseI thought she.
Was I thought she fell. I didn't catch that, she got.

(01:02:22):
I thought she just got tossed. From the shipwreck or something
I. Didn't even think I didn't see
that. Yeah, that's where she got that
from. You have to cut some stuff.
What, like do you, would you trust Daryl as your surgeon, by
the way, or your, you know what I mean?
Like even on the first aid level?
Honestly yes. Because you want his hands on
you. Guys got wilderness survival
instincts, so I think he would just.

(01:02:44):
Bite down on some bark, Darrell.It's a good thing they didn't
drink all the Scotch because he had it for disinfectant.
Daddy like. You shut up.
You were saying Daddy, John Goodman, Daddy Energy earlier,
which I was like, I'm not getting involved.
No, I said. Not I'm saving that for later I.

(01:03:06):
Said not that. All I heard was daddy energy or
not daddy energy, I put that in your head.
You. No.
Oh my God, no. We got the oh.
My God. We got it, spring it home.
Oh, OK, here's another. One I got to, I got to tell you,

(01:03:27):
I know what thick plot armor Carol has.
And even in that moment, for like a second, I'm like, she's
not bit. Right.
Did you think she was going to die in this episode?
Because there were like 2 times when I thought like something's
wrong. No, I didn't think she was going
to die. But like when he was kind of
looking at that wound, right, and then he comes out and he

(01:03:47):
shows his hand with blood on it.I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no. It's because they wanted to make
you think. That's why they didn't
automatically. They'll just show you the wound,
right? They wanted you to say, oh, she
got bit somewhere. Julian bit her.
What I'm saying, despite how much plot armor I know she
wears, it got me. They succeeded because I was

(01:04:09):
like, wait a minute. Even if she got bit she'd be
like immune. Here's immunity.
I'm like if anyone's a view and it's her, right?
I actually at the end of this episode, I was like, oh God,
what if something did happen to Carol?
And I was like, wait, I've seen screenshots of you this season.

(01:04:30):
Never mind. Yeah.
Not even just that right after it ends, they show you like
what's to come in the and she's just back with Darryl.
I turn. I turn.
That. Off.
I turn that off every. Time.
I don't want to know. I don't know.
I missed. I know I I normally do.
But here she is in the next frame.
She's just fine. No worries.
Yeah. Where is she?

(01:04:51):
Oh, she's right here, guys. Don't worry.
She's just. Outside the frame, guys.
If. They do that.
Because all the Carol fans are like, well, I'm not going to
watch anymore. She she's hurt.
So they have to like, show them that she's OK, so they'll come
back. Right here's.
Some spoiler photos. Does that mean you really
appreciated this episode becauseit made you feel something that
you didn't expect yourself to feel?

(01:05:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This episode, I'm trying to,
like, get my words right becausethis episode was very strange.
I enjoyed it. I need to start off by saying I
really, I did really enjoy the episode.
A lot happened in this episode, but nothing happened at the same
time. It was weird, but I really liked

(01:05:33):
it. There were like so many tiny
little snippets of things and then they like, put it all
together, which I did really enjoy it.
And yes, holy, like they got me a few times and I realize I'm
saying like a lot and now I'm very aware of it and which is
making me say it more so. I did not say anything.
No, I know, but. I can hear you like you're.
I can hear no, I can hear you. I can hear future David going

(01:05:57):
like like. We're going to try to stop
saying 10 and likes. I feel like I've gotten better
at the but it's like that. I can't control it's no, I have
you shut you shut up. I have gotten better.
I'm not saying you, Yeah. I'm trying very hard.

(01:06:22):
With, I am who I am. I think this goes.
For all of us, if we don't say umm, sometimes it's not.
Clear that we're still. Thinking No, sometimes it's not
clear that we're still thinking,and then that allow there's a
Then there's a lull in the conversation, which allows
someone to to pick up and start talking while while we're still
trying to think. So the UMM is important, and it

(01:06:43):
lets the room know we're still thinking true, am I right?
Right. Yeah, it is true.
You're absolutely right. So our scary horseback riding
horned. Barbarians.
First of all, super intriguing. I'm like, Oh yes, right, OK.
This is. OK, no, not at all.

(01:07:04):
I think this is something that would definitely, I don't know
what what their story is yet, but I think this is she.
Did like the sexy OK, right? Are we all in agreement?
Yeah, she was. OK.
Yeah, Yeah, she did. I hope they find.
Me I did find OK, so that being said.
I just didn't want that to go unnoticed because.

(01:07:26):
OK, maybe we'll see. I mean.
Horseback. They've got horns and muscles.
One more one. You.
Know they're. Muscle thing.
It was like all they look. Dead, but they're really not.
Yeah. You know, they probably have
like tons of tattoos. For sure super healthy.
You know. They're they look dead.
It's perfect. Yes, I I mean, what was I saying

(01:07:51):
so. You're getting to the part where
it's like wait, but this is SUS.Daryl, Carol, they're under
their little canopy. They got the the lights on.
They're trying to sleep right because Carol's super sick and
she's got a fever and they're going through the boat.
So I realized the ocean waves cause a fair amount of noise,
but Carol was really loud. She was really, really loud.

(01:08:12):
And she's like, I need air, you guys.
And I was like. Shut up.
They're so. Good at your Waffle House?
And then here comes trotting up one of these guys on on his
horse, so close that their face is.
Illuminated with the. Fire.
And he's so good. And then he takes the torch and
he does one of these and he passes it by and I'm like,

(01:08:32):
they're right. There what?
How do you nuss? How did he not see them?
Because he's only seeing out of two little eye holes in that
mask. Yeah, to be fair, the mask is
probably prohibiting a lot of things.
Well then he should probably lose it.
Yeah, I think they might have been a cloudy sky too.
What did, what did the sky have to do?
Their faces were clearly illuminated in the in the torch.

(01:08:57):
It reminded me of Lord of the Rings.
Reminding me of Lord of the Flies.
Yeah, I keep saying more. Yeah.
OK, it's the scene with the Whatare they the Nas Gol?
Right, the Ring Wraiths. They come up and there's like
one rider and the hobbits are hiding down below a little
hollowed out log, you know, they've got their mouths covered
and stuff. And he's like right over them.

(01:09:18):
And it reminded, yes, it reminded me so much of that.
But at least they shared. Like below.
Like he's he's up here and they're down below this. 1.
He's literally at their feet. No, I think that jacks their
perspective, yeah. The shots are really tight.
The light is actually coming from like this way.
So I think he's actually up behind them, not to their front

(01:09:41):
to which is what it kind of the way they did it.
It's that's what it kind of looked like, like Carol was
directly facing him. But the light is coming from
this way, so he's up above them.So, and I think there's more
cover that way, that's why he couldn't see them.
Okay, maybe because the eye linefrom Darrell and Carol looks
like they're looking. Right at him.

(01:10:02):
I know, I know. I was also wondering you have
this dual problem when it comes to filming to This is like the
fear of The Walking Dead season 4 problem.
Okay, so you're trying to show night scene and this is like
where they invented the whole blue light thing where you shoot
in at day, but it looks like night and night.
For day, yeah. Night for day, yeah.
Day for night, day for. Night, yeah.

(01:10:23):
Not a lot of people know about this filming method where you're
filming day, but it looks like night because the way you're
filming digitally. Very obvious and it's used too
frequently and it looks bad. Now all the time, yeah.
But then you have this other dual problem, which is the Game
of Thrones problem, the last season with the whites and the
White Walkers coming to Winterfell.
It's super dark. It's I, I looked at the, the

(01:10:43):
sky, I felt like it was a cloudysky.
There's no moon, no stars, but you still have to show the
actors without not showing them.That was my rationale is that it
was so dark and then throw, you know, you're lighting a torch
across the scene where ostensibly it's very, very dark,
but you still as the viewer haveto see the actors and the people
who are in the scene. Otherwise you can't see
anything. So pick your complaint.

(01:11:04):
You know, it's either complaining about it's too dark.
I can't see. I have to turn up the brightness
on my TV or hey, hey, I saw the torch on their faces.
Why didn't he see them? Good point.
Another thing about the sound, though, just the only 100% for
sure thing that I can account for is that when Carol was on
the beach and her vision was blurry and whatnot, she saw

(01:11:26):
Walker Julian. She couldn't hear him, but if
you had headphones on, you couldhear Walker Julian's like Walker
sounds that he was making. It was just like you said, the
crashing waves were covering up the sound.
Sure. So could that could have been
muffled And she was like saying I need air.
She wasn't screaming. It was.

(01:11:47):
Pretty loud. It was pretty loud.
I mean, it was audibly loud for you, the viewer, but I don't
think. Just based on her trying to
bleeding it. Yeah, or just like.
I need air. She wasn't, yeah, she wasn't
trying to be quiet. I was like, shut up, you idiot.
I was so mad at her in that moment, but like, yeah.
But putting myself in Rachel's shoes, she already passed

(01:12:09):
through a hard moment thinking she might die.
So this makes sense actually when you think about it.
I'm just going to throw this outhere.
Do we think that, yes, those people look very intimidating
because of the horns and masks and all that stuff, but do you
think that's just a facade, thatthey're actually not the main
antagonist going into the seasonbecause we know he's going to
end up with other people? Because I find the most

(01:12:30):
civilized though the ones that hold onto these like older ways
tend to be the the most malicious and it's like the ones
that go back to like barbarian ways would be like the most
rational in a way. Well, they're willing to
acclimate instead of trying to cling on to something that
doesn't exist anymore. Yes.
But do you think they're hostilein that way?
Do you think that the Barbariansand the people in the G for the

(01:12:52):
same group? I don't.
No, that's an interesting thought.
Though they could be, I just didn't think that.
They're just play acting for thenight time.
They're like who? I did see them, but I didn't.
I want to make them think I didn't see them right, Rachel.
What if a boat has washed up on shore?
Let's get scary in case there's somebody there we need to
intimidate. They're really into Lord of the
Rings. That's it there.

(01:13:14):
You go. That was pretty good, Dave.
Thank you. I can't comment on this because
I did see the episode or insiderin the in the lead into that and
I I think I saw something that maybe would skew my answer.
So I'm not going. To I'm not going to answer.
So did you see that the boat wasnamed Not Alone Knot?

(01:13:37):
Yes. I didn't write that down my
nose. That was so cute.
Knot. And also sad, poor Julian.
Not anymore Knot. He was with people at the end
do. You think Daryl was trying to
send him back to England when hepushed him out into the water?
Here you go. Go back to England, Julian.
Or like. Be one with the sea and travel.

(01:13:59):
Maybe you'll make it to actuallyAmerica.
Find another dead body of a girland you'll get together and be
dead together. Look.
Here that was look here, Tim Bird, that's.
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever said.
Why don't you calm down the castle?
Helena Bonham Carter in your movie Shut up.

(01:14:21):
Just kidding. Not anymore.
I'm pretty sure you cheated on her.
Not anymore. This is this is going to be the
thing now. I know you guys noticed that the
opening music and the art style changed.
Yes. Yeah, title sequence I.
Really liked. That really close up painting
that showed right at the beginning made me think of the
Saturn one that we saw in Dead City.

(01:14:42):
So the Brutalist. Saturn eating.
Saturn devouring a Saturn. Devout.
Yes. Very bold brush strokes.
Not fine, delicate painting. In oil, yeah, which is the theme
that carries over Goya from the first title sequence.
Am I making? Yeah, go.
That's right, Francisco. Something.

(01:15:03):
Well, on top of that, so things that carry over that link it to
the first title sequence is the oil paintings, right?
But the music also is the same but in a different.
Right. It's the same music is different
style, Yeah. And you'll be happy to know it's
the same composer. Almost like a flamenco style.
Yeah, well, there's some of thatSpanish guitar.
It requires like more fingering instead of like strumming.

(01:15:24):
Yeah, finger style. That's what she said.
I know that's I had to fix it. I'm going to.
Look here, Dave. Fingering tunnel.
Finger picking is a thing. Finger picking, yes, not
fingering. Look.
I saw what you said. Yeah, I know you did.
Grow up you pervs. So don't finger your chunnel.

(01:15:45):
But it's the same composer, David Sardi, which is a relief.
It's well, you know, you don't want to get rid of the the old
to make way for the new. So I thought it was kind of
cool. The visuals are cool.
The oil paintings of Daryl and Carol I particularly enjoyed
tickled me instead of what they did in the 1st two seasons were
kind of like animated. Well, do you remember seeing

(01:16:06):
like, the animated Daryl lookingdown on Paris in the first
season? Anything you said after tickled
me. I love, I love that you just
look at this for Dave's still talking.
You and I both go. So the channel fingering tickled
me. Tickled me?

(01:16:27):
Yeah. There we go.
This is the trifecta, is it? Yes, I remember the animated
Daryl. It wasn't any of that in this
title sequence. You said animated Daryl and I
had this vision of like Daryl and like Scooby-doo out attire.
Yeah, it's kind of like that. Soykes, Rick.
Does that mean Carol is scooby-doo Daphne?

(01:16:52):
Daryl is, obviously. Shaggy.
Scrappy of anybody? She's scrappy.
Doo Row. No, I think she's graduated to
scooby-doo because she's like she said, she's she's lighter.
She's excited to look forward tothings like Scrappy Doo was
trying to pick fights. She's not caring a hot dogs at

(01:17:13):
Scooby Snacks. I didn't like that conversation.
It'll it alludes to something that I'm like, I'm scared now.
The fact that she's looking forward to her future has me
terrified. Yeah.
And it should have all of you terrified as well, just so you
know. Because that's when people go.
That's when people die. Generally, yeah.
But not Carol, she has plot armor.

(01:17:34):
But does she have plot armor? For you, I don't know, they,
they scared us this episode theymight be preparing us for.
Something Ned Stark had plot armor too.
And. Everyone's like Sean Bean,
surely they wouldn't kill him off.
And then I find out that I forget which podcast did this,
but they they basically how theydid a whole thing, a segment

(01:17:55):
that they would repeat how Sean Bean died.
It's an actual podcast, by the way, which I will now include a
link to a lot of ways in which Sean exactly same as Xander
Berkeley, because Xander Berkeley complained about this
in interviews. He said he in every single thing
he dies painfully. I do want to touch on the Alfred
Lord Tennyson elegy Julian was mentioning to Daryl.

(01:18:17):
This is like in the same conversation about oh this will
be the last Scotch in the world blah blah blah all that stuff.
Eventually all of history, all the all our cultural
significance, all gone in a poof.
He mentions this because he saystis better to have loved and
lost than never to have loved atall.
And he says you have the Blues, we have Tennyson.
And I wanted to dig in a little bit more on this.
Tennyson basically said this in an elegy slash memorial to

(01:18:37):
Arthur Henry Hallam. This.
AH and it was written after the death of his closest friend.
The full line is I hold it true.Whatever befall, I feel it when
I saw her most. Tis better to have loved and
lost than never to have loved atall.
Which is sad for Julian who was not alone at the end of his day
disease. But the real reason why I wanted
to bring this up is how do you propose that Julian died?

(01:19:00):
Possibly the head injury from the boom.
It's the head wound. Specifically what concussion is
what I'm thinking he fell asleepbecause you could see his he was
getting sleepy and then his eyeskind of closed, never to have
opened again. Well, they did.
Well. Not as him.
Rachel was 10% more attracted tohim as a result.
I. Don't know what it is about you

(01:19:23):
like this, but suddenly I'm really into Steven.
He's funny, he's dead. What's not to like?
He's. Very He's a very good looking
guy, even more so now. With his with his puffy eyes and
his his twisted mouth that. That pale white skin.
That's not how you spell Mexico.What did you think about?

(01:19:45):
I don't know. I don't care actually.
OK. All right, I was going to talk
about the dead people in the trees, but I was like, do I
care? I don't really care, no.
Clever fun. Some of it was dripping on him.
I was like, what? The Do you think they were alive
when they got put up in there, or do you think they were
captured dead? See, Rob saves it.

(01:20:06):
That's a great question. I didn't care.
Now I do care. Is that a punishment?
Could be, I don't know, I I feellike either could be true.
But are they useful now? Are they using them?
I would say it's a great trap ifyou hit like the chop the wire
and the calm fall down on peopleright it.
Was just Walker bomb Salonia. Walker bomb.

(01:20:27):
Do you remember we were breakingdown the trailer for The Walking
Dead, Daryl Dixon? The thing that we focused on
that was flying at whoever it was, it was on fire.
Oh yeah, yeah. For those of you who saw the
trick, because I don't want to spoil whoever didn't see that.
And we froze frame on it and it was like that.
Is that something on fire? And the Nets may have something
to do with that too, maybe. Oh, it might not be a net.

(01:20:50):
It may be the trees are tied in such a way that if you hit a
rope, those Nets will go flying.Let's you do the math on that,
Rob. Save the segment.
I love it. I just wanted Rob to go.

(01:21:17):
So Carol's peeing. OK, we got.
Yeah, Carol's peeing. That's pretty much what's
happening. She's just off frame.
She's just squatting, Carol. 'S they're screaming.
Carol. She's just like, hold up.
Why are you so loud? They're trying to get caught.
I just needed to pee. Once again, the cinematography

(01:21:37):
is absolutely fantastic every shot.
Yeah, it's true. No, they definitely put all the
budget into this show. If there are people who are not
watching this, I am so confused because arguably this is one of
the best stories we've received in The Walking Dead universe.
It's so interesting. It's weird, it's different, but

(01:21:58):
I'm really thankful for that. I love the American South, do
not get me wrong, I live here, but we had damn near 12 years of
it. Like it's just.
Like. We could.
I need to live through other things.
Yes, they threw a lot of money to this, but I'm still surprised
that they did actually film someof those shots.
Obviously in England, those drone shots were of them on site

(01:22:22):
in those locations. They weren't CG.
They didn't put CG Carol and Daryl in the distance walking
through the cliffs. That was actually them.
So it is interesting. I imagine it'd be quite
expensive to film in like Londonthough.
Right, which is why they didn't so, but like I was like they did
throw a lot of money at it, but also saved on the budget so they
didn't have to film, let's say in London.

(01:22:44):
That's why I know. They're giving tax credits too
in Europe right now for filming,which is why a bunch of filming
has moved over there and has really hurt Georgia in
particular. Oh yeah, I heard about that
lately, Yeah. As a podcast, we have actor
friends who have had a hard timethat started acting when a lot
of filming moved to Georgia and that became their livelihood.
And suddenly now that livelihoodis gone.

(01:23:04):
But as a result, I think what you get is more bang for your
buck in terms of being able to use this really beautiful
scenery. So as sad as I am for our
friends, I think that it's probably well worth the money
that they're spending there to get such beautiful shots.
I agree. I had a thought when they were
doing all the promo work. I think it was Thursday

(01:23:24):
actually, because I did see the early premiere at Rooftop Films
events in Industry City in Brooklyn that same day.
They were in Spain, out in the streets promoting The Walking to
Daryl Dixon on Spanish television somewhere.
I don't know the exact details, but Walking to AMC was live
tweeting it. It was in their stories, it was
in their Instagram feed, it was in X, it was on Facebook too,
all over. They did, I think a compilation

(01:23:45):
video on their YouTube channel. They even took time to shout us
out at Rooftop Films. They sent a recording to Rooftop
Films to tell people about the like, oh, thank you for being
here in New York and blah, blah.I mentioned this only because I
had a thought while looking at all of this, which all of it's
sweet, all of it's great. But do you remember that thing
they were saying about every season, The Walking Dead, Daryl

(01:24:07):
Dixon, for starters, it films there, but it doesn't air there.
That to me, I thought was prettysad.
I hope they figured that out because in France when when it
came out, the big complaint thatthey were receiving is that it's
great that they're here. I'm glad we get we have access
to Daryl and Carol or Daryl at the time, but we don't get to
see the show until it airs on Netflix, let's say when the

(01:24:30):
second season finally comes around.
Usually I think is what it is, but.
Yeah, they don't get to view it live like we do they.
Don't have AMC Plus, they have to download it basically in
order to see it when we see it. So that was my thought process.
As the days go on, I will look into that to see if they figured
that out on network television. Inevitably, someone rightfully.
Too, don't you think? Yeah, yeah.
No, definitely, but. But you know why it doesn't air,

(01:24:51):
right? Because in order for it to air,
they have to license the show toa network partner in Europe,
let's say. And then there's EU regulations
and blah, blah. And it makes it very difficult.
And you have to be really, really good and you have to know
that people are going to want tosee it in order to air it so
that they can pay for it via commercials, etcetera, etcetera.
That's the reason why there's nodoubt in my mind that The

(01:25:12):
Walking Dead has decreased in popularity.
One could argue that it's because they're not airing their
show across the pond, let's say.But the other argument is, well,
it just costs too much to license.
As long as they have Sky and nowin the UK.
But the official really say it still isn't confirmed.

(01:25:32):
See, that's the problem, right? They have.
To have AVPN to be able to access it over here?
Really. And well, and they VOD account
of some kind, right? Video on demand.
You'd have to AMC plus account with AVPN.
An AMC Plus account and be able to like.
AUS credit card and. Then AVPN in order.
Which is again, quote, UN quote illegal.
But why should it be? We got some very sad news over

(01:25:54):
the weekend actually, too, and that was the script.
Supervisor Amy Blanc Lacey passed away in a car accident.
Oh. Yeah, this was very recent.
The date on this was September 6th, 2025.
At least this articles in players bio.com is where I found
it, but it's in many places. And the cast and crew of The
Walking Dead have been expressing their sorrow about

(01:26:15):
this. She was the script supervisor on
The Walking Dead. Let me read the article for you.
Amy Blank Lacy, A beloved motherand respected script supervisor
in the Atlanta film community, passed away in a tragic car
accident on September 1st, 2025.She was riding with her sons,
Adrian and Oliver when the vehicle was struck at high
speed. While her children were cheated
for minor injuries and later discharged, Amy suffered
critical trauma to her brain andspinal cord.

(01:26:37):
She was placed in a coma, kept on life support.
After careful consultation with medical professionals, her
family made the heartbreaking decision to say goodbye.
As shared by IATSE Local 161, Amy's loved ones were invited to
visit her on September 3rd and 4th.
Moreover, her body will be released for medical
interventions on Friday, September 5th.
Amy Blunk Lacey was a beloved member of the film community.

(01:26:59):
She was well known script supervisor on the Atlanta film
industry and a former cheerleader.
She contributed to four major productions and as a script
supervisor such as The Walking Dead, Loki, Halt and Catch Fire,
and The Vampire Diaries. Many people credit her for
giving them their first chance in the business.
She was thoughtful, loving, and brought joy to every set she
worked on. Beyond her work, Amy loved

(01:27:20):
people, animals, and nature deeply, and she gave her heart
to everything she did. Amye passing is left a void in
the heart of her family in the entire community.
She was an organ donor and more than 46 people will receive life
saving gifts from her. One of her friends asked for
prayers and said Most of you in the film community know Amy.
As a script supervisor, she is directly responsible for Miracle

(01:27:41):
Burns getting her first job in our industry.
A gathering to honor her life will be held on Saturday,
September 6th, just already passed from 2:00 to 5:00 in her
home in Atlanta. Private green burial with her
family will take place on Sunday, which is today.
More celebrations of her life are planned for the future,
which is straight if you want toparticipate.
Moreover, there's a Go Fund Me page campaign.

(01:28:02):
Help Amy Lacey's family through this difficult time.
Created by Tasha Widowin, the main purpose of this campaign is
to support her children as they face the heartbreaking loss of
their mother. The funds will help cover her
funeral expenses and provide financial support for the
challenging days ahead. Our heartfelt condolences go to
Amy Blanc, Lacey's family, friends and well wishers.
Rest in peace Amy. I will include the link to this

(01:28:24):
Go Fund Me campaign in the blog.Obviously, I will also include
it in the YouTube description aswell as the podcast credits.
If you head on over to social media, I've mostly been seeing
this on Instagram by many folks behind the scenes on The Walking
Dead. Many of the folks who you don't
often hear from wrote lengthy captions in response to Amy

(01:28:44):
Blanc Lacy's passing. Some of them were just
absolutely beautiful. I highly encourage you to seek
them out and and really see whatAmy meant to the folks behind
and in front of the camera. Moving on to this series, which
is also a celebration of her tooand her legacy.
I'm very much looking forward tosee what this series has to

(01:29:04):
offer. Dovetailing to what we just
talked about. It's about processing grief.
Also the poem RM Rilkey Processing grief and allow and
integrating it the concept of life and death into your
lexicon. The way you remember your
friends and your loved ones and learning to remember them fondly
for when they were alive and learning to live while you're

(01:29:25):
alive and not just saving thingsfor a rainy day, but learning to
live and maybe participate in the now.
Yeah, I've been your host, DavidCameo, and I was joined by
that's. My mom 09.
Lacy Gardner. Bridget, you can find me at
ko-fi.com/punky Brewster. That's PUNKYBRUISETER.
And I've been robbed. You can find me over at Rob's

(01:29:46):
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And just remember that we are squawking dead.
Thank you for making it to the end of yet another episode of
Squawking Dead, this one covering our discussion on The
Walking Dead, Daryl Dixon's Season 3 premiere titled Costa
da Mort in Spanish, Costa Costa da of Mor in French.

(01:30:06):
The Dead Coast, or Coast of the Dead, as Bridget put it so
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XI cannot wait to talk about thesecond episode of the season.

(01:32:35):
We'll find in Spain to the meat of the story and we have
actually six more episodes to go.
That's seven episodes this season.
And to close the book on whetherthis series is available in
Spain to watch, well, as a matter of fact, it is a tweet by
Eduardo Noriega, who plays Antonio, whom I hope we see in
the next episode. He says the series is now

(01:32:58):
available on AMC Plus Espana, which you can watch through
Prime Video Espana as well as Vodafone Espana obviously.
So there are some viewing options available.
If I am mistaken, please correctme.
I got this information straight from the actor and I think what
they've been trying to do is promote the ways in which one

(01:33:19):
can watch The Walking Dead DarylDixon abroad but not abroad
because this episode at least they filmed it in Galicia.
I will not relent. That's how I heard it was
pronounced and that's how I willpronounce it.
Any case, take care. See you soon, can't wait.
Love speaking to you guys and love getting feedback from you.
Feel free communication lines are open and remember again that

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