February 16, 2023 • 44 mins
Happy Valentine's Day everyone! (or post-Valentine's Day anyways) We're reviewing 2022's FRESH, directed by Mimi Cave and written by Lauryn Kahn. Plus, a real life human meat seller from the 1990s, the Sundance audience being lucky as fuck, and a wind down featuring a few movies that might be popping up in future episodes for sure!
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What's your favorite scary movieto stop or time the podcast,
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were to lgbts talk, the horror movie of the week, real life
crime or events. And if it's worthy of being, In
Autumn marry gay film. And yes, the titles are puns.
I'm Elle. I'm Kate.
Hello again? Happy February.
Yeah. So I pick I got tickets time.
Yeah I was like this. This is dropping a couple days
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after about 10 times day, but I was like, let's pick something
maybe having to do a themed. This is almost like an
anti-feminist Chose fresh from last year. 2022 directed by Mimi
cave and starring Daisy, Edgar Jones and Sebastian Stan.
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Well, obviously have to talk about spoilers for this, this
because, so this L, I don't know.
If you follow this movie, when it came out at all, did you I
heard about it but I hadn't likereally follow like what it was
about. So I was kind of just going into
it fully unaware God. Okay well Well, okay, let me
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just get it. Let's get into it then.
So, what did you think of the opening?
That was crazy. Did you know where it was going?
Did you know where any of this was going?
Oh, I had no idea. Okay.
Elaborate like, like I thought something was gonna happen
obviously because it is a horrormovie.
But I like, yeah, I wasn't expecting like when you started
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talking and you know about, you know, kidnapped.
Like when he kidnapped her, I was like the way he did it all.
Like, okay, this is not First time doing this but then he
said, taking these roles and keeping them alive and like,
just cutting them up and sellingtheir meats to like Elite rich.
People who want to like, eat human meat, especially women.
And I was just, like, that's a new one.
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Because I've heard of like, you know, we all got like the
cannibal serial killer stuff. But this is the first time I've
seen one covered, where he's like, selling human meat to
people who want to consume it and it the pale.
Like ridiculous prices for it. It's like crazy weather like
tying capitalism into the massage.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well I just, I asked you that
and I'm glad that she wouldn't bind because like, okay, so
based on that opening. For the, if you haven't seen it,
y'all like there's like a 30-minute opening.
That's basically like a meet-cute rock not rom-com but
like romantic set up that ends on the 30-minute Mark of him.
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In her at his place. And then it's like fresh and and
and truly only the like, first, Sundance audience got to enjoy
that completely going in blind and not knowing because even
even at Sundance after the firstscreening and every
advertisement from then on hinted at cannibalism and all
this shit and the fact that it was a horror movie and I just
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wish it had been marketed not like that.
You know what I mean? Because I imagine watching that
and thinking like because because also the The first of
all everyone like it's like it'sfunny to it's fun to re-watch
this to thinking about all the red flags come doing in
quotation marks side side note that the whole point of this
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movie is that it's you're not supposed to be judging her for
ignoring the red flags, because he is the one that is kidnapping
and murdering women. Yeah, and she's just trying to
navigate her life. Navigate this shitty dating
scene with shitty men, that do stuff like like take your
Leftovers or don't know that they're making you uncomfortable
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walking behind you, in a dark alley and shit like that, like
that. I like that.
They set up things like that situations in everyday life,
where you think? Oh, I like, is this dangerous?
Am I overthinking This? And like, in one case she was,
but it's like, it could have easily been the other way.
So that's why when she meets Steve, and like he says, these
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things are things, you know whatI mean?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But what's the alternative to
just never live? Or life and never trust anyone
into in a relationship. You know what I mean?
And it happens really fast and Iget it to some other people just
like, yes, but he looks like Sebastian Stan.
I'm like, that's also understandable and he he does
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this so well. He Trump's the fuck out of her
obviously. Um, oh yeah.
I don't I don't agree with the people that are like thirst to
go over this caregiver. That's a The whole other Dale.
Yeah. But I guess I will ask since
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this is also a polarizing movie like did you like it?
No. Yeah.
I I enjoyed it especially because you know usually like I
think they had well we have Molly who is Ali amazing.
Love her MVP. She's a supportive best friend
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and like, she may not like, Maybe not agree with all of what
her friend does but she does still support her.
And she's a concerned friend like she does, you know, once
you know, Noah goes missing and she's like, looking for this
guy. She's like dude, she's pulling
the FBI. Had out.
Looking for a friend. Yeah, to go and find her.
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And she gets to kick ass and I love that.
And I didn't like the fact that to that, there's two black
characters in here and they bothsurvive, which is yeah, really
good. Because we all know that the
Trope of, you know, a black guy dies first and horror movie.
And I have really enjoyed. Paul's period, takes it into his
own. And he's like, nope, I'm
removing my teeth. Like, we seen this movie know
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what happens, he's like, oh, that's so funny.
I honestly don't. It's there's there's like
twofold to that scene of. We're talking about what Paul
the bartender, who mallya lists for help because like on one
hand you do you don't want a manto come save the day.
And if you're right in any othermovie, he would have shown up
and just got murdered. Yeah, and that would have been
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fun for anyone. So just I'm just turning around
and also just adding to the mo this movie that matter fucking
useless, they're if they're if they're not trying to kill you,
they're also just useless and not helpful and women of the
compassion ones that help and save each other like that
re-watching. This reminded me of Barbarian.
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And the way that people criticize, the lead character in
that and all the quote unquote stupid decision she's making but
it's like those come out of compassion and trying to help
other people and I may be. And that's also has a stock
that's a way that's it. And that's okay.
Yeah, that's what yeah, that's what we got to talk about my
parents. But you see what I mean, right?
Like Absolutely. I just I watched it especially
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re-watching this and like I don't see why people hate a soup
which I don't know. I it's the misogyny.
Well, no, no, like, women, I know a lot of women that don't
like it that I, I'm ignoring anyman that doesn't want him, but I
know multiple women. I watched him a friend of the
show. I watched it was Sidney not to
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put her on blast but then she wasn't mean about it but she
didn't like it. And I remember we had like a
discussion about it. We watch it like together.
When it first came out, she wasn't a fan and that's okay,
that's what. Yeah like.
Hmm. At least.
This movie is doing something and making really bold ass
decisions so that it can be so polarizing.
And again, like women are allowed, women should be able to
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make more movies like that. I think.
Q, what is it? The other two women can't suck
kind of thing, right? I like um also I just side note,
I kept thinking about this but during the when we watched it
Sydney quoted that tumblr post. The like men will eat men will
see a mouse and eat. I think that was for review on
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Letterman Oh my God.
He wanted one. No, he doesn't.
Oh, that was the one of the it re watches are fun because you
know, he says stuff, the very beginning.
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He says I don't eat. What is I?
Don't eat animals. I don't need the meat of animals
Animal. Yeah, you're like ha ha Xbox
screen. We will remember that.
And back to what you said before, this is a different take
on like the cannibalism tail. I think we're because it is
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always like usually meant to be seen as, like a power move and
in this it's really just it's a,it's a an allegory for like the
dating, like women in trying to navigate the data team, trying
to navigate just life in general.
And also on the other hand like The steps bed will take to just
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exert their power over women andlike, it's so funny.
The person Steve thinks he is versus who he actually is and
like how profound he thinks he is talking about like, what
like, it's, you're giving yourself over to someone else
completely. And it's like, well, no, you're
not doing that. You're forcing your killing a
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woman and forcing her to do that.
She didn't like, he and like he really, I haven't seen bones and
But it seems like he really thinks he's living in that life
or something. And then it's just like this
romantic profound thing. I think it's so funny when she
turns the tables on him and she like, seduces him and makes the
play for him and he truly believes it because he's too
stupid to think that, That she could actually outsmart him, you
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know? Yeah, yeah.
He thinks that he has her under his like control because she's
going to be like so afraid, you know.
So if I misbehave, he's going tocut something else off of me,
but I also really liked like, and when she was like, you know,
caged in her room and she had that magazine, there was that
little message written from somebody at that had been there
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before. And it's like, That she was
thinking, you know, there are going to be other women that are
going to come after me. Once I'm gone.
I need, I should write somethingso they can possibly Escape when
I could not and the fact that Noah and Penny like were bonding
through these walls and they never saw each other and they
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were just, you know, just havingcompassion for one another
because they're both stuck in a really shitty situation.
And then We know it does get them free, you know, she helps
like, get all like everybody that's there.
As, you know, Molly and Molly and Penny and help him get free,
then they all start kicking Steve's.
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A switch is so fun to enjoy and watch it's like good for her the
kitchen especially we're all just going after him in every
angle possible. Yeah like jumping off the
counter and shit. Oh, I was glad Penny was real.
Yeah I remember that. Like when I did you ever think
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she might not be might be snow. I thought she heard of a
different scheme or something. I thought she was real simply
because I don't he seemed like the kind of guy who would have
more than one person there at a time.
But I also was kind of part of his downfall because then it's
like, oh, I have someone else here that's with me, you know,
if we get out of this will be stronger than if it was just me
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by myself. Yeah, and I do think, I mean,
they're going to be people that find any character he plays hot,
I guess we're just gonna have todeal with that, but I feel like
this movie really does go to lengths to try to like
emphasize. Both the present women and the
women in the past that he's thathe's murdered like with with
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Penny being the current and thenlike that wall of keepsakes and
everything with all of their pictures.
There's even a even in the scenewhere he's like the supposed to
be like semi comedic or he's like hacking away to like a pop
song, her photos right there. And so like, I just really like
the I always loved horror comedybut like the Blend specifically
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of how like funny he is. How funny Steve is but also have
fucking terrifying. He is like that scene.
I really think a capsulate sit for me and I was like yeah, it's
a brilliant performance. I think it's a lot.
It's a lot of leg work to do butI think he pulls it off and I
think maybe cave pulls off really difficult like tone tonal
blend. Yeah.
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That makes sense. Does this delicate such an hour
talking about the violence against women?
You know? Like yeah.
And I and the fact that that also, When Noah is asking him
about you know why? Like is it always women and he
says, yeah. Because apparently, like women
just tastes better than guys. Like I think there's like also
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part of it, it's easier to get awoman in these traps than it is
to get a guy. Yeah.
So it is yeah, just another like, male power extortion over
women with that as well and justlike Because he's not really
think of the thinking of them. Mostly most of them as, you
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know, human beings with thoughtsand feelings.
But just like, you know, this isanother person I can use to get
money and get there. They see him as me basically,
you would just most of me. Yeah, he calls them that much
like oh we can't have the meat stress.
It's like you mean her body? Her living body?
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Fuck. Yeah.
Just point out that this is the only thing I've seen Daisy,
Edgar Jones and I know she was in that.
Not difficult people, what's it called?
Normal people show. Oh yeah, she's being cast in a
lot of stuff, but I think she's brilliant in this like there's a
lot of like internal stuff goingon.
Especially being her in the latter half like trying to
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figure her way out, you know. And like the manipulation she's
doing to Steve. Yeah, I don't know, I didn't
realize how young she was until I was researching.
Oh yeah. She's a little baby.
I was like oh my God, he's so yeah.
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Yeah, the fact that she was Poland tips from that magazine
to be like how to make him yoursand it fucking worked.
What didn't even realize. Yeah.
Like so the farmers had like shoe Mi more you trust us, you
know, just smile kind of give into his jokes be more, submissive
that kind of shit. And then she uses that as
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tactics when he does do a dinnerthing that she's Oh great.
So far. So good for her.
Now, what were you ever worried that?
Like she was like, Getting some Stockholm syndrome or like
falling for all of this bullshit.
I didn't think so because I havethe way she was reacting
especially when she first like woke up.
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After he drugged her. Yeah.
And she like I don't think she would have just in my personal
opinion. I can't exactly stay why.
But she doesn't seem like she would, you know, fall for her
captor again, because she's seenwhat he's like now.
A who he really is. But yeah, that is I don't know
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if that is what was going on with his wife.
Yeah, he's got a wife, two kids with I think it said that she
was one of his victims when he like fell for her something and
I'm not as it's a, that's okay. It was in like the Wikipedia or
something. I feel like it's implied.
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Yeah. And I'm not sure like maybe she
does have Stockholm Syndrome. Or she just like is so terrified
of the thought of helping another woman to like not get
put in this position that she will just do everything to like
keep him happy so she doesn't end up back in that spot, I
don't know but Molly getting herwith a shovel and saying
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bitches, like you are, the problem made me laugh out of it
at the end. Yeah, I don't talk about.
Yeah, yeah. I guess it's supposed to be
implied that too. With the like something I
noticed on re watches her like being obsessed over like her
face and pulling back the skin and maybe like, utilizing being
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married to a plastic surgeon to hang on to that and her youth or
something. I don't know.
I don't know why that would makeyou be part of a cannibalism
game. Yeah.
That's one of the I guess that'sone of like the knot holes in
the script but something that's not is explored as much.
But then again this is already at A two-hour movie already.
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I think I kind of leave a little
ambiguous. Kind of make you decide.
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Like that's what's going. What's her deal?
What's her do you something? No, I can't imagine getting my
ass taken away. Like, you can dominate cause so
many, it's too easy to make an eating a stroke or boxed.
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Anyway, I was like, I'm going torestrain myself very restricted
but I did find for True Crime this week.
You got a tree, got a true crime, We all go a little mad
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sometimes, haven't you? Because most of the time when
you can stand do now. Yeah, it's fucking guys, not not
always the man, but somehow, I'man all the time.
What one more side know before you go into this?
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I can't believe we're supposed to believe Sebastian, Stan is
from Texas. Ha ha Eastern European man to
exist. Anyway, so real.
So we have heard about, you know, Killers who were cannibals
but usually it's they consumed. The people that they killed
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themselves, this guy served people that he killed two.
People who did not know it was human.
They were hamburgers. Oh, just so, there are just
going into this if you want to skip this segment because there
is description of murder, attempted rape and cannibalism
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just to let you know. So this man is called his name
is Joe Metheny. He was, it was back in the early
1990s. This was around the same time as
Jeffrey Dahmer. He was a native of Baltimore and
he claimed that he killed as many as 10 people.
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And several of them were sex workers in South Baltimore.
He killed them, he did dismemberthem, and he saved pieces of
them in the freezer and then through the rest of their bodies
and River. He has never expressed any
remorse for his actions. He would make burgers and serve
them at a Roadside Barbecue stand to unsuspecting passerby
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when he was younger. This does not give any excuse
to, obviously, it's just his background.
His father was an alcoholic. That was killed in a car
accident. When he was only six years old,
his mother was trying to supporta family of six, was not able to
fully care for her kids. Working double shifts
apparently. He used to be a good student
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polite. Never mean as a kid, when he was
19, he joined the United States Army and his mother said they
served in Germany and he said, himself that he served tours in
Vietnam became addicted to heroin.
While he was there. But however via United States
involvement in Vietnam had endedby that time.
So that was clearly a lie, but he liked.
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So he was addicted to drugs, buthe just wasn't in Vietnam.
In the time, despite his addictions, he was able to find
stable work as a forklift driverand he hadn't had a girlfriend
in the sun. One day though, when Matheny
returned from work, his wife andchild were simply gone
suspecting that his wife had left with her.
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To go live with another man, if any flew into a vengeful rage,
and this is the event, that Metheny would claim spark this
free of murders. He searched for them for Desi
search and halfway houses and under bridges where she used to
buy drugs but he found nothing. He did find two homeless men who
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he believed were withholding information from him about the
location of his family. He did murder them both with an
axe that he had brought along with any was eventually.
She arrested for these murders and even told law enforcement
that he committed three more unrelated murders that same
evening. However, this case was
ultimately dropped due to lack of evidence.
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These were not his first victimsthough after he was arrested in
with any claim that he had murdered a sex worker by the
name of Kathy and magaziner a year earlier in 1994.
He claimed that the first buriedher body in a shallow, grave at
the factory where he worked, he then returned to the body, six
months later, took the head. It in a box and threw it in the
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trash. He be having begun killing
before the abandonment. He claimed spurred his murder
spree. It seems that Metheny wasn't
looking for Revenge. After all, he was just
enthralled with the thrill of killing.
In fact he even discovered the whereabouts of his family.
As he claimed, I found out aboutsix months later she had moved
on the other side of town with some asshole that had her out
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selling her ass for drugs. They got busted for drugs and
they took my son away from them for child neglect and child
abuse. Unfortunately that knowledge did
not seem to quench his thirst for violence in 1996.
Joe Metheny killed Kimberly LynnSpicer by driving a knife
through her chest list, and a month later, he was sharing
drugs in his trailer with a woman named Rita Kemper when she
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refused to have sex with him andattempted to flee.
He chased her beat her, dragged her back into the channel
trailer and attempted to rape her.
He also likes it, he tried to kill her and even screamed, I'm
going to kill you and bury you in the woods with the other
girls. He had hidden the body of
Kimberly. Leland Spicer at the factory
where he worked however fearing that someone would discover it,
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he asked one of his co-workers to help him bury it.
His coworker immediately told the police and Matheny was
arrested the same day, finally, some sanity, although you might
expect a struggle from a man as violent as Joe and Bethany, the
arresting officers were surprised when he went peaceful
and said, simply I'm a very sickperson, once the police began to
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question, Metheny the true extent of his crimes were
revealed. He claimed that he could.
Up to 10 people, most of them, young white, female sex workers.
Whose bodies he dumped in the past, Pat of hosko river for
most of these victims though, there was never any evidence
found. He also revealed some disturbing
information during his interviewabout what he'd done with the
bodies after murdering his victims in some cases, he was
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turning them into burgers and Joe Metheny Zone words.
I cut the meat up and put it in some Tupperware bowls.
Then put it in a freezer. I opened up a little open pit
beef stand. I had some real roast beef and
pork sandwiches. They were very good.
The human body taste was very similar to Pork if you mix it
together. No one can tell the difference.
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Because apparently no one could tell the difference of perhaps,
no one could have possibly thought that they were being
served human meat. It is unknown.
How many people consumed his Burgers Metheny himself later
said, in an interview. So the next time you're writing
down the road and you happen to see an open pit beef stand that
you've never seen before. Make sure you think about the
story before you take a bite of that sandwich.
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Nothing you never showed any remorse whatsoever for the
crimes he committed. He claimed that the only thing
he regretted is that he never got to murder his ex-wife.
Girlfriend in the man. She ran off with initially,
Metheny receive the death penalty, but the sentence was
later changed to life in prison.And as of 2017, he was found
dead in his prison cell. They believe he passed from
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suicide, but they don't specify specifically so that's fucking
insane. Oh not all men but somehow
always a man what I learned fromwomen talking and said it's all
been except Ben whishaw for realbeen wish on trans men.
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That's it. That's it.
You know, it's big. Yeah likes.
Okay. Yeah.
I mean between that and Texas Chainsaw.
I'm never getting a Roadside Barbecue ever ever.
No, absolutely not. No.
I need if I need a, I need the big, a in the window, too.
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Hey, yeah. so yeah, it's just like the fact that But not only
did he kill these women and and a lot of times they do go after
people that won't be missed by society, which tends to be sex
workers. Yeah, it's main.
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It's amazing that we still date you even though you're like up
there with like the number one thing that kills a kills women.
So, It's just the fact that we put ourselves out there.
And still, like, trust, you know, hey, hopefully, this guy
won't kill us after all of this stuff has happened.
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It's crazy. But nightmare for women who like
men, truly, but hey, at least not everybody in this movie is
straight. So is this film?
Yay, you buy all your murder weapons at Home Depot.
(27:09):
Gosh. Well yeah, because MVP of this
movie. Molly is a queer character and
like openly talks about dating women and that's just like part
of who she is on top of just being a great friend and awesome
person, which I feel like that's, that's the
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representation some people are asking for others would want
more, but I'm like that's you know, I like the way it wasn't.
Hello know and she's just she's just so cool.
She is. Yeah, because like she did it's
not it seems definitely. It's not like the first time.
She's talked about it with Noah and Noah seems really chill with
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it. Oh yeah, so it's like so it's
like it's definitely not the first time, she's brought up the
talk of it. Like, yeah, this is why you
should date women. I'm glad I was gonna say, I'm
glad there wasn't a line of Noahbeing like, Oh God, I should
just date with. So, so fucking stupid.
Stupid. Ha ha ha.
Alright, yeah, go for it. Other than that, this is a very
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straight movie but yeah, and just about dude, suck and women.
Good, no baby. I feel sorry for all of y'all
that like half the date, man. I'm sorry about that.
It's a gay berries. Your straight kind of movie.
It's a what. Oh About that various traits
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Society. If we buried our straight until
that becomes a trip, I will never be satisfied.
Do you have any last thoughts onthis film?
This any any other remarks you want to talk about the many
things that made you that you'd like to talk about?
(29:05):
I got everything in, um, You eattoo.
I just, I really liked the like,the the girl team up at the end.
And like, that's how you do it. Take notes Marvel, it's giving
Death Proof for real and I just can't wait to see what we became
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do. Does next, you know, she has her
next movie and I think Matthew Macfadyen.
And so, let's go fucking go, youthere, let's go.
I'll be, and I'll be one. Absolutely.
I think it would watch it still,it's Hulu bought it so it'll be
on who it should be on Hulu. Oh yeah, just know.
(29:48):
It's the subject matter is not for everyone and also I wouldn't
recommend it to everyone but yeah, I think if it's your type
of Type of genre I don't know. Yeah, fresh from those, give it
a go give it a go. So you can wind down one down if
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you want. Yeah, I can go first if you'd
like sure. Right?
So I recently, I love God. What if I've been watching?
I've been watching everything. So I watched the first thing I
watched after we did Ghost keeper with Skidamarink.
(30:33):
That is also a movie. People are like, either you
loved it or you, I hated it and I feel like there's no one in
between and it's definitely alsonot a movie that's like for
everyone. Like, because like, I was
watching it and I was like, oh my God, this is like what I was
experiencing when I was like eight years old and I was up
late in my house which my house is look like was a fairly
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good-sized. So like seeing those dark
corners and like those kind of long hallways.
So it's just like, yeah, yeah, that's how you can you briefly
explain. It's literally just like screens
Like empty space. It's not always screens like
these. So basically these two children,
I think like the oldest has to be about 9 or 10 fish.
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They wake up to find that all the doors and windows and their
house are gone and their father is missing.
There's something in the house that is doing, like something.
There's no explanation, why? It's very like there's also, a
point of view from the little girl, who's the eldest, at some
point. They do a camera from her point
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of view and there are like just still screens at certain point
but there also are like slow camera pans at others and it
just made like maybe you've really just like a feeling of
dread like as the movie progressed like I was kind of
just like sinking back into my seat, as it was going on.
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It's definitely one. You want to watch where it's
like you're in a dark room and there's no light coming in and
like have your earphones in so you can hear anything.
Like they had subtitles on the screen when I went and saw it
because they wanted you to be able to hear what the kids are
saying. Look in the theater.
Yeah. Oh, cool.
And it's, we could always do that.
You know. You should do them more often
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movie theater. Just a hint.
I saw it with a few other people.
And it was just so quiet in the theater because everyone was
just like, just watching becauseit was like a build up and it's
just like tents. Like you just feel tense and
just read the whole time becauseyou didn't know what the fuck
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was going to happen. You didn't what was going on,
but obviously it's not going to be for everybody, but I had a
great time. I really enjoyed it.
I might re-watch it some time, especially cuz I need it needs
to be dark. Like cause this is like setting
like the 1990s. 1995 specifically.
And it has kind of like that, you know, that like film, like
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slight grainy film fish over. Like, it's not like crystal
clear, you know, how video cassettes were.
It was kind of like that, like home movies and shit.
So having a really dark room will help you be able to see
things a little better. And then after that, I went
totally 180 and watched Puss in Boots.
The Last Wish fucking fucking fantastic film.
(33:28):
Absolutely loved it. I had a great time.
The whole time I highly recommend watching that.
I also, then the next day, I watched a Repo, Man, which was
from the 1980s. I just wrote it down, like, on a
list of guy cause I was looking at the criterion's, we had in my
store and I was like, what spines of a movie are catching
(33:49):
my interest that I want to like give it a go and dig like green.
Yeah, the cover art is so much cooler than the actual movie.
Terrible. It's not the worst thing I've
ever seen, but I'm just like Like this is up there.
(34:12):
I've never seen it at, it's justfunny to me.
It's yeah, it's something it's something I will tell you that
and they're like chasing. This is a movie.
It what? That's a movie.
And then kind of towards the endof January.
I watch the Slumber Party Massacre because we all should
watch it. Yes to kick off my February.
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I watch safe by Todd Haynes, which I think everybody should
watch. Absolutely.
Oh, yeah, that's been on my listforever to do for this.
I just, yeah, gotta watch. I then watched his girl Friday,
because I wanted a little Cary, Grant movie to watch and that
Also been on my list for a long time to just watch.
(34:58):
It was a good time, I enjoyed itand then because it's always
been on Sydney's like favorite films of all time.
I watched a new Leaf by Elaine May which was her first film.
It was fantastic and a great time and then watches every
Valentine's Day so perfect. So tomorrow, yes, you can be
watching it. And finally, they just finished
(35:24):
him yesterday. I watched the 1940s Alfred
Hitchcock version of Rebecca because I just finished the book
and I'm obsessed and then fresh quack.
Oh God. I am obsessed in the next time
Criterion because on sale. I'm getting that film was.
I'm just like yeah. I'm just like just I got to see
that bad boy on nitrate film, I like oh melted my ass, on my God
(35:52):
makes my brain go. I know a lot of what we need to
do in the future. Yeah, we got some films on
(36:14):
there. We can definitely do I haven't
read. I haven't read to too much, but
I've been in a nice little reading, you know, going, I read
a Start women by say a commemorative Marauder which is
like a like a hundred and thirtysomething Page.
Buckets are a little short storykind of thing going on, which
was a nice read. And then the Dutch house by Ann
(36:35):
Patchett which was a Pulitzer Prize finalist.
And the cover had always caught my eye and I figured let's go
ahead and watch it and to or read it.
Watch it reflect is same thing and this point and today, I just
finished Outline by Rachel cusk.And now I'm about to read The
Phantom of the Opera novel because I've never read it
(36:59):
before and I just seen the musical at the beginning of the
month and Ben Crawford, I'm obsessed.
My dad says he's like the second-best Phantom after Graham
after Grant Norton which is the first fam he ever saw in the
1940s 1990s. I can't talk.
(37:20):
Look, damn, my dad's old. I will tell you right now books,
great has nothing. The musical has nothing to do
with it. There are two different fan of
musicals and neither of them. Do a good job at all and
adapting the book but we say no.Yeah.
You could. Do you know about the the
Phantom book that was written bylike it's like it's basically
(37:41):
like a fancy suit. A dozen K.
Yeah. Susan K Phantom yes.
Of course. Who you think you're talking to?
I should have known better. Oh my God.
Don't, don't, don't open. That can of worms, eat that late
night, when we covered the Joel Schumacher movie, it's all over
(38:05):
for you guys. I like that.
Andrew Lloyd, Webber chose him to direct, like he was the first
and only choice to direct The Phantom of the Opera movie,
because Jill, because Andrew Lloyd, Webber liked the music
choices that he did for the Lost, Boys.
You don't like that's that wasn't.
How was the coffee cake? Damn.
(38:28):
Hire me. We love a good music,
supervisor. Hey, fresh had good music.
You know it did. Okay.
So you've seen ex machina, right?
Yeah. Didn't that dancing kind of give
you a little ex machina vibe? Oh, because that's what I was
(38:50):
like. Oh, like what is there on this
dance floor at a dance Order checking?
Oh, that's also. Good movie.
What have you been up to watcheda lot of horror but I can tell
you some, my January was a lot of just trying to catch up on
the awards stuff that might be nominated or were nominated that
(39:12):
I actually wanted to see. Like, there's some stuff it's
like, I'm not gonna watch Elvis,I'm sorry.
But also I watched Washed fucking after sun in wrecked my
ass. And I'm glad Paul Mezcal got a
nomination, because if you're a dyke with dead dead issues,
you're going to love after son, is what I'll say.
(39:34):
I think we should somehow get Charlotte Wells to get to direct
the fun whole movie. Based on this movie, oh, say
also watch Causeway, which is really good with Brian Tyree.
Henry, got a nomination for it is him and Jennifer It's really,
really solid little kind of two-hander Indie, watch the menu
which was bad anyway. I won't talk about so bad, 84
(40:01):
Brady, I don't know that's and Ifinally watched Coda which was
last year's Best Picture Winner.So we're really behind I'm not
I'll be real, I'm not mad at won.
Best picture of those it, but I was like watching them like this
one best. Like it's just like a cute
music. Cool.
(40:29):
I'm not going to be mad about this baby.
Oh no. I totally like we could have had
way worse off than Kota wouldn'tbe P cats meowing.
He's like Kota rocks. We talking about that's it.
(40:51):
And that I'm just gonna be watching your shows because I
can't and cooking shows because I my brain can't handle new
content Haley. I'm re watching Kevin can fuck
himself. Because nice.
I haven't watched the second season since it aired, so like
we're about to go through it. Yeah, I don't know.
I guess I'll catch up, I haven'tseen skin wearing or anything.
(41:14):
Yeah, that's all. That's that that's that sounds
good. I will well, by the time this
airs I will be back home. Visiting family for my birthday
forever. Just for a little visit.
Just take a little time off fromwork and then coming back.
Don't have money future plans. Other than that, though, I'm
(41:38):
just taking it one day at a time.
Gotta file my taxes eventually, and I don't want to do the
TurboTax. Super Bowl commercials, don't do
your taxes. Bad catchphrase.
Yeah, please terrible. The no?
(42:03):
Yeah, it's freshest. It's a yeah.
If it sounds like it's a movie that is up your alley, I
definitely say go for it. They don't really show any of
the stuff happening that, you know, no losses from ass and
Molly loses one of her boobs. I don't like, I will give you my
boobs for free. Sebastian Stan, if you yeah,
(42:25):
take something off my chest. Please, what's Joe?
Biden's plan for Sebastian Stan to give me top surgery, haha.
Are y'all. It's like yeah this is just a
little bit. I need something a little
flattered that should have been his thing like, hey, do you want
(42:45):
to like he should have just donea Top surgery.
I don't know what kind of meat you get from there?
But yeah, wait, we've cracked the code Tit for Tat.
If you will give me some of thatmoney getting yanked Away by a
cane now. That's fresh babe, that's fresh.
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Anyways. If you celebrated Valentine's
Day, I hope you watched fresh orat least had a good day.
I will be watching Reservoir Dogs, the most romantic movie
ever made and see you all next month.
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just can't watch it. So we will see you guys next
month. Thanks for listening and have a
good Valentine's Day. Everybody.
Bye.
What's your favorite scary movieto stop or time the podcast,
(00:24):
were to lgbts talk, the horror movie of the week, real life
crime or events. And if it's worthy of being, In
Autumn marry gay film. And yes, the titles are puns.
I'm Elle. I'm Kate.
Hello again? Happy February.
Yeah. So I pick I got tickets time.
Yeah I was like this. This is dropping a couple days
(00:45):
after about 10 times day, but I was like, let's pick something
maybe having to do a themed. This is almost like an
anti-feminist Chose fresh from last year. 2022 directed by Mimi
cave and starring Daisy, Edgar Jones and Sebastian Stan.
(01:09):
Well, obviously have to talk about spoilers for this, this
because, so this L, I don't know.
If you follow this movie, when it came out at all, did you I
heard about it but I hadn't likereally follow like what it was
about. So I was kind of just going into
it fully unaware God. Okay well Well, okay, let me
(01:32):
just get it. Let's get into it then.
So, what did you think of the opening?
That was crazy. Did you know where it was going?
Did you know where any of this was going?
Oh, I had no idea. Okay.
Elaborate like, like I thought something was gonna happen
obviously because it is a horrormovie.
But I like, yeah, I wasn't expecting like when you started
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talking and you know about, you know, kidnapped.
Like when he kidnapped her, I was like the way he did it all.
Like, okay, this is not First time doing this but then he
said, taking these roles and keeping them alive and like,
just cutting them up and sellingtheir meats to like Elite rich.
People who want to like, eat human meat, especially women.
And I was just, like, that's a new one.
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Because I've heard of like, you know, we all got like the
cannibal serial killer stuff. But this is the first time I've
seen one covered, where he's like, selling human meat to
people who want to consume it and it the pale.
Like ridiculous prices for it. It's like crazy weather like
tying capitalism into the massage.
(02:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well I just, I asked you that
and I'm glad that she wouldn't bind because like, okay, so
based on that opening. For the, if you haven't seen it,
y'all like there's like a 30-minute opening.
That's basically like a meet-cute rock not rom-com but
like romantic set up that ends on the 30-minute Mark of him.
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In her at his place. And then it's like fresh and and
and truly only the like, first, Sundance audience got to enjoy
that completely going in blind and not knowing because even
even at Sundance after the firstscreening and every
advertisement from then on hinted at cannibalism and all
this shit and the fact that it was a horror movie and I just
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wish it had been marketed not like that.
You know what I mean? Because I imagine watching that
and thinking like because because also the The first of
all everyone like it's like it'sfunny to it's fun to re-watch
this to thinking about all the red flags come doing in
quotation marks side side note that the whole point of this
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movie is that it's you're not supposed to be judging her for
ignoring the red flags, because he is the one that is kidnapping
and murdering women. Yeah, and she's just trying to
navigate her life. Navigate this shitty dating
scene with shitty men, that do stuff like like take your
Leftovers or don't know that they're making you uncomfortable
(04:03):
walking behind you, in a dark alley and shit like that, like
that. I like that.
They set up things like that situations in everyday life,
where you think? Oh, I like, is this dangerous?
Am I overthinking This? And like, in one case she was,
but it's like, it could have easily been the other way.
So that's why when she meets Steve, and like he says, these
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things are things, you know whatI mean?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But what's the alternative to
just never live? Or life and never trust anyone
into in a relationship. You know what I mean?
And it happens really fast and Iget it to some other people just
like, yes, but he looks like Sebastian Stan.
I'm like, that's also understandable and he he does
(04:46):
this so well. He Trump's the fuck out of her
obviously. Um, oh yeah.
I don't I don't agree with the people that are like thirst to
go over this caregiver. That's a The whole other Dale.
Yeah. But I guess I will ask since
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this is also a polarizing movie like did you like it?
No. Yeah.
I I enjoyed it especially because you know usually like I
think they had well we have Molly who is Ali amazing.
Love her MVP. She's a supportive best friend
(05:28):
and like, she may not like, Maybe not agree with all of what
her friend does but she does still support her.
And she's a concerned friend like she does, you know, once
you know, Noah goes missing and she's like, looking for this
guy. She's like dude, she's pulling
the FBI. Had out.
Looking for a friend. Yeah, to go and find her.
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And she gets to kick ass and I love that.
And I didn't like the fact that to that, there's two black
characters in here and they bothsurvive, which is yeah, really
good. Because we all know that the
Trope of, you know, a black guy dies first and horror movie.
And I have really enjoyed. Paul's period, takes it into his
own. And he's like, nope, I'm
removing my teeth. Like, we seen this movie know
(06:14):
what happens, he's like, oh, that's so funny.
I honestly don't. It's there's there's like
twofold to that scene of. We're talking about what Paul
the bartender, who mallya lists for help because like on one
hand you do you don't want a manto come save the day.
And if you're right in any othermovie, he would have shown up
and just got murdered. Yeah, and that would have been
(06:35):
fun for anyone. So just I'm just turning around
and also just adding to the mo this movie that matter fucking
useless, they're if they're if they're not trying to kill you,
they're also just useless and not helpful and women of the
compassion ones that help and save each other like that
re-watching. This reminded me of Barbarian.
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And the way that people criticize, the lead character in
that and all the quote unquote stupid decision she's making but
it's like those come out of compassion and trying to help
other people and I may be. And that's also has a stock
that's a way that's it. And that's okay.
Yeah, that's what yeah, that's what we got to talk about my
parents. But you see what I mean, right?
Like Absolutely. I just I watched it especially
(07:19):
re-watching this and like I don't see why people hate a soup
which I don't know. I it's the misogyny.
Well, no, no, like, women, I know a lot of women that don't
like it that I, I'm ignoring anyman that doesn't want him, but I
know multiple women. I watched him a friend of the
show. I watched it was Sidney not to
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put her on blast but then she wasn't mean about it but she
didn't like it. And I remember we had like a
discussion about it. We watch it like together.
When it first came out, she wasn't a fan and that's okay,
that's what. Yeah like.
Hmm. At least.
This movie is doing something and making really bold ass
decisions so that it can be so polarizing.
And again, like women are allowed, women should be able to
(07:59):
make more movies like that. I think.
Q, what is it? The other two women can't suck
kind of thing, right? I like um also I just side note,
I kept thinking about this but during the when we watched it
Sydney quoted that tumblr post. The like men will eat men will
see a mouse and eat. I think that was for review on
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Letterman Oh my God.
He wanted one. No, he doesn't.
Oh, that was the one of the it re watches are fun because you
know, he says stuff, the very beginning.
(08:44):
He says I don't eat. What is I?
Don't eat animals. I don't need the meat of animals
Animal. Yeah, you're like ha ha Xbox
screen. We will remember that.
And back to what you said before, this is a different take
on like the cannibalism tail. I think we're because it is
(09:09):
always like usually meant to be seen as, like a power move and
in this it's really just it's a,it's a an allegory for like the
dating, like women in trying to navigate the data team, trying
to navigate just life in general.
And also on the other hand like The steps bed will take to just
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exert their power over women andlike, it's so funny.
The person Steve thinks he is versus who he actually is and
like how profound he thinks he is talking about like, what
like, it's, you're giving yourself over to someone else
completely. And it's like, well, no, you're
not doing that. You're forcing your killing a
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woman and forcing her to do that.
She didn't like, he and like he really, I haven't seen bones and
But it seems like he really thinks he's living in that life
or something. And then it's just like this
romantic profound thing. I think it's so funny when she
turns the tables on him and she like, seduces him and makes the
play for him and he truly believes it because he's too
stupid to think that, That she could actually outsmart him, you
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know? Yeah, yeah.
He thinks that he has her under his like control because she's
going to be like so afraid, you know.
So if I misbehave, he's going tocut something else off of me,
but I also really liked like, and when she was like, you know,
caged in her room and she had that magazine, there was that
little message written from somebody at that had been there
(10:38):
before. And it's like, That she was
thinking, you know, there are going to be other women that are
going to come after me. Once I'm gone.
I need, I should write somethingso they can possibly Escape when
I could not and the fact that Noah and Penny like were bonding
through these walls and they never saw each other and they
(11:00):
were just, you know, just havingcompassion for one another
because they're both stuck in a really shitty situation.
And then We know it does get them free, you know, she helps
like, get all like everybody that's there.
As, you know, Molly and Molly and Penny and help him get free,
then they all start kicking Steve's.
(11:21):
A switch is so fun to enjoy and watch it's like good for her the
kitchen especially we're all just going after him in every
angle possible. Yeah like jumping off the
counter and shit. Oh, I was glad Penny was real.
Yeah I remember that. Like when I did you ever think
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she might not be might be snow. I thought she heard of a
different scheme or something. I thought she was real simply
because I don't he seemed like the kind of guy who would have
more than one person there at a time.
But I also was kind of part of his downfall because then it's
like, oh, I have someone else here that's with me, you know,
if we get out of this will be stronger than if it was just me
(12:06):
by myself. Yeah, and I do think, I mean,
they're going to be people that find any character he plays hot,
I guess we're just gonna have todeal with that, but I feel like
this movie really does go to lengths to try to like
emphasize. Both the present women and the
women in the past that he's thathe's murdered like with with
(12:30):
Penny being the current and thenlike that wall of keepsakes and
everything with all of their pictures.
There's even a even in the scenewhere he's like the supposed to
be like semi comedic or he's like hacking away to like a pop
song, her photos right there. And so like, I just really like
the I always loved horror comedybut like the Blend specifically
(12:53):
of how like funny he is. How funny Steve is but also have
fucking terrifying. He is like that scene.
I really think a capsulate sit for me and I was like yeah, it's
a brilliant performance. I think it's a lot.
It's a lot of leg work to do butI think he pulls it off and I
think maybe cave pulls off really difficult like tone tonal
blend. Yeah.
(13:14):
That makes sense. Does this delicate such an hour
talking about the violence against women?
You know? Like yeah.
And I and the fact that that also, When Noah is asking him
about you know why? Like is it always women and he
says, yeah. Because apparently, like women
just tastes better than guys. Like I think there's like also
(13:38):
part of it, it's easier to get awoman in these traps than it is
to get a guy. Yeah.
So it is yeah, just another like, male power extortion over
women with that as well and justlike Because he's not really
think of the thinking of them. Mostly most of them as, you
(13:59):
know, human beings with thoughtsand feelings.
But just like, you know, this isanother person I can use to get
money and get there. They see him as me basically,
you would just most of me. Yeah, he calls them that much
like oh we can't have the meat stress.
It's like you mean her body? Her living body?
(14:21):
Fuck. Yeah.
Just point out that this is the only thing I've seen Daisy,
Edgar Jones and I know she was in that.
Not difficult people, what's it called?
Normal people show. Oh yeah, she's being cast in a
lot of stuff, but I think she's brilliant in this like there's a
lot of like internal stuff goingon.
Especially being her in the latter half like trying to
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figure her way out, you know. And like the manipulation she's
doing to Steve. Yeah, I don't know, I didn't
realize how young she was until I was researching.
Oh yeah. She's a little baby.
I was like oh my God, he's so yeah.
(15:04):
Yeah, the fact that she was Poland tips from that magazine
to be like how to make him yoursand it fucking worked.
What didn't even realize. Yeah.
Like so the farmers had like shoe Mi more you trust us, you
know, just smile kind of give into his jokes be more, submissive
that kind of shit. And then she uses that as
(15:26):
tactics when he does do a dinnerthing that she's Oh great.
So far. So good for her.
Now, what were you ever worried that?
Like she was like, Getting some Stockholm syndrome or like
falling for all of this bullshit.
I didn't think so because I havethe way she was reacting
especially when she first like woke up.
(15:48):
After he drugged her. Yeah.
And she like I don't think she would have just in my personal
opinion. I can't exactly stay why.
But she doesn't seem like she would, you know, fall for her
captor again, because she's seenwhat he's like now.
A who he really is. But yeah, that is I don't know
(16:11):
if that is what was going on with his wife.
Yeah, he's got a wife, two kids with I think it said that she
was one of his victims when he like fell for her something and
I'm not as it's a, that's okay. It was in like the Wikipedia or
something. I feel like it's implied.
(16:32):
Yeah. And I'm not sure like maybe she
does have Stockholm Syndrome. Or she just like is so terrified
of the thought of helping another woman to like not get
put in this position that she will just do everything to like
keep him happy so she doesn't end up back in that spot, I
don't know but Molly getting herwith a shovel and saying
(16:53):
bitches, like you are, the problem made me laugh out of it
at the end. Yeah, I don't talk about.
Yeah, yeah. I guess it's supposed to be
implied that too. With the like something I
noticed on re watches her like being obsessed over like her
face and pulling back the skin and maybe like, utilizing being
(17:17):
married to a plastic surgeon to hang on to that and her youth or
something. I don't know.
I don't know why that would makeyou be part of a cannibalism
game. Yeah.
That's one of the I guess that'sone of like the knot holes in
the script but something that's not is explored as much.
But then again this is already at A two-hour movie already.
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I think I kind of leave a little
ambiguous. Kind of make you decide.
(17:39):
Like that's what's going. What's her deal?
What's her do you something? No, I can't imagine getting my
ass taken away. Like, you can dominate cause so
many, it's too easy to make an eating a stroke or boxed.
(18:03):
Anyway, I was like, I'm going torestrain myself very restricted
but I did find for True Crime this week.
You got a tree, got a true crime, We all go a little mad
(18:24):
sometimes, haven't you? Because most of the time when
you can stand do now. Yeah, it's fucking guys, not not
always the man, but somehow, I'man all the time.
What one more side know before you go into this?
(18:46):
I can't believe we're supposed to believe Sebastian, Stan is
from Texas. Ha ha Eastern European man to
exist. Anyway, so real.
So we have heard about, you know, Killers who were cannibals
but usually it's they consumed. The people that they killed
(19:08):
themselves, this guy served people that he killed two.
People who did not know it was human.
They were hamburgers. Oh, just so, there are just
going into this if you want to skip this segment because there
is description of murder, attempted rape and cannibalism
(19:29):
just to let you know. So this man is called his name
is Joe Metheny. He was, it was back in the early
1990s. This was around the same time as
Jeffrey Dahmer. He was a native of Baltimore and
he claimed that he killed as many as 10 people.
(19:50):
And several of them were sex workers in South Baltimore.
He killed them, he did dismemberthem, and he saved pieces of
them in the freezer and then through the rest of their bodies
and River. He has never expressed any
remorse for his actions. He would make burgers and serve
them at a Roadside Barbecue stand to unsuspecting passerby
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when he was younger. This does not give any excuse
to, obviously, it's just his background.
His father was an alcoholic. That was killed in a car
accident. When he was only six years old,
his mother was trying to supporta family of six, was not able to
fully care for her kids. Working double shifts
apparently. He used to be a good student
(20:34):
polite. Never mean as a kid, when he was
19, he joined the United States Army and his mother said they
served in Germany and he said, himself that he served tours in
Vietnam became addicted to heroin.
While he was there. But however via United States
involvement in Vietnam had endedby that time.
So that was clearly a lie, but he liked.
(20:55):
So he was addicted to drugs, buthe just wasn't in Vietnam.
In the time, despite his addictions, he was able to find
stable work as a forklift driverand he hadn't had a girlfriend
in the sun. One day though, when Matheny
returned from work, his wife andchild were simply gone
suspecting that his wife had left with her.
(21:16):
To go live with another man, if any flew into a vengeful rage,
and this is the event, that Metheny would claim spark this
free of murders. He searched for them for Desi
search and halfway houses and under bridges where she used to
buy drugs but he found nothing. He did find two homeless men who
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he believed were withholding information from him about the
location of his family. He did murder them both with an
axe that he had brought along with any was eventually.
She arrested for these murders and even told law enforcement
that he committed three more unrelated murders that same
evening. However, this case was
ultimately dropped due to lack of evidence.
(21:58):
These were not his first victimsthough after he was arrested in
with any claim that he had murdered a sex worker by the
name of Kathy and magaziner a year earlier in 1994.
He claimed that the first buriedher body in a shallow, grave at
the factory where he worked, he then returned to the body, six
months later, took the head. It in a box and threw it in the
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trash. He be having begun killing
before the abandonment. He claimed spurred his murder
spree. It seems that Metheny wasn't
looking for Revenge. After all, he was just
enthralled with the thrill of killing.
In fact he even discovered the whereabouts of his family.
As he claimed, I found out aboutsix months later she had moved
on the other side of town with some asshole that had her out
(22:39):
selling her ass for drugs. They got busted for drugs and
they took my son away from them for child neglect and child
abuse. Unfortunately that knowledge did
not seem to quench his thirst for violence in 1996.
Joe Metheny killed Kimberly LynnSpicer by driving a knife
through her chest list, and a month later, he was sharing
drugs in his trailer with a woman named Rita Kemper when she
(23:00):
refused to have sex with him andattempted to flee.
He chased her beat her, dragged her back into the channel
trailer and attempted to rape her.
He also likes it, he tried to kill her and even screamed, I'm
going to kill you and bury you in the woods with the other
girls. He had hidden the body of
Kimberly. Leland Spicer at the factory
where he worked however fearing that someone would discover it,
(23:20):
he asked one of his co-workers to help him bury it.
His coworker immediately told the police and Matheny was
arrested the same day, finally, some sanity, although you might
expect a struggle from a man as violent as Joe and Bethany, the
arresting officers were surprised when he went peaceful
and said, simply I'm a very sickperson, once the police began to
(23:42):
question, Metheny the true extent of his crimes were
revealed. He claimed that he could.
Up to 10 people, most of them, young white, female sex workers.
Whose bodies he dumped in the past, Pat of hosko river for
most of these victims though, there was never any evidence
found. He also revealed some disturbing
information during his interviewabout what he'd done with the
bodies after murdering his victims in some cases, he was
(24:04):
turning them into burgers and Joe Metheny Zone words.
I cut the meat up and put it in some Tupperware bowls.
Then put it in a freezer. I opened up a little open pit
beef stand. I had some real roast beef and
pork sandwiches. They were very good.
The human body taste was very similar to Pork if you mix it
together. No one can tell the difference.
(24:26):
Because apparently no one could tell the difference of perhaps,
no one could have possibly thought that they were being
served human meat. It is unknown.
How many people consumed his Burgers Metheny himself later
said, in an interview. So the next time you're writing
down the road and you happen to see an open pit beef stand that
you've never seen before. Make sure you think about the
story before you take a bite of that sandwich.
(24:48):
Nothing you never showed any remorse whatsoever for the
crimes he committed. He claimed that the only thing
he regretted is that he never got to murder his ex-wife.
Girlfriend in the man. She ran off with initially,
Metheny receive the death penalty, but the sentence was
later changed to life in prison.And as of 2017, he was found
dead in his prison cell. They believe he passed from
(25:11):
suicide, but they don't specify specifically so that's fucking
insane. Oh not all men but somehow
always a man what I learned fromwomen talking and said it's all
been except Ben whishaw for realbeen wish on trans men.
(25:36):
That's it. That's it.
You know, it's big. Yeah likes.
Okay. Yeah.
I mean between that and Texas Chainsaw.
I'm never getting a Roadside Barbecue ever ever.
No, absolutely not. No.
I need if I need a, I need the big, a in the window, too.
(26:01):
Hey, yeah. so yeah, it's just like the fact that But not only
did he kill these women and and a lot of times they do go after
people that won't be missed by society, which tends to be sex
workers. Yeah, it's main.
(26:25):
It's amazing that we still date you even though you're like up
there with like the number one thing that kills a kills women.
So, It's just the fact that we put ourselves out there.
And still, like, trust, you know, hey, hopefully, this guy
won't kill us after all of this stuff has happened.
(26:49):
It's crazy. But nightmare for women who like
men, truly, but hey, at least not everybody in this movie is
straight. So is this film?
Yay, you buy all your murder weapons at Home Depot.
(27:09):
Gosh. Well yeah, because MVP of this
movie. Molly is a queer character and
like openly talks about dating women and that's just like part
of who she is on top of just being a great friend and awesome
person, which I feel like that's, that's the
(27:30):
representation some people are asking for others would want
more, but I'm like that's you know, I like the way it wasn't.
Hello know and she's just she's just so cool.
She is. Yeah, because like she did it's
not it seems definitely. It's not like the first time.
She's talked about it with Noah and Noah seems really chill with
(27:54):
it. Oh yeah, so it's like so it's
like it's definitely not the first time, she's brought up the
talk of it. Like, yeah, this is why you
should date women. I'm glad I was gonna say, I'm
glad there wasn't a line of Noahbeing like, Oh God, I should
just date with. So, so fucking stupid.
Stupid. Ha ha ha.
Alright, yeah, go for it. Other than that, this is a very
(28:18):
straight movie but yeah, and just about dude, suck and women.
Good, no baby. I feel sorry for all of y'all
that like half the date, man. I'm sorry about that.
It's a gay berries. Your straight kind of movie.
It's a what. Oh About that various traits
(28:41):
Society. If we buried our straight until
that becomes a trip, I will never be satisfied.
Do you have any last thoughts onthis film?
This any any other remarks you want to talk about the many
things that made you that you'd like to talk about?
(29:05):
I got everything in, um, You eattoo.
I just, I really liked the like,the the girl team up at the end.
And like, that's how you do it. Take notes Marvel, it's giving
Death Proof for real and I just can't wait to see what we became
(29:28):
do. Does next, you know, she has her
next movie and I think Matthew Macfadyen.
And so, let's go fucking go, youthere, let's go.
I'll be, and I'll be one. Absolutely.
I think it would watch it still,it's Hulu bought it so it'll be
on who it should be on Hulu. Oh yeah, just know.
(29:48):
It's the subject matter is not for everyone and also I wouldn't
recommend it to everyone but yeah, I think if it's your type
of Type of genre I don't know. Yeah, fresh from those, give it
a go give it a go. So you can wind down one down if
(30:09):
you want. Yeah, I can go first if you'd
like sure. Right?
So I recently, I love God. What if I've been watching?
I've been watching everything. So I watched the first thing I
watched after we did Ghost keeper with Skidamarink.
(30:33):
That is also a movie. People are like, either you
loved it or you, I hated it and I feel like there's no one in
between and it's definitely alsonot a movie that's like for
everyone. Like, because like, I was
watching it and I was like, oh my God, this is like what I was
experiencing when I was like eight years old and I was up
late in my house which my house is look like was a fairly
(30:55):
good-sized. So like seeing those dark
corners and like those kind of long hallways.
So it's just like, yeah, yeah, that's how you can you briefly
explain. It's literally just like screens
Like empty space. It's not always screens like
these. So basically these two children,
I think like the oldest has to be about 9 or 10 fish.
(31:16):
They wake up to find that all the doors and windows and their
house are gone and their father is missing.
There's something in the house that is doing, like something.
There's no explanation, why? It's very like there's also, a
point of view from the little girl, who's the eldest, at some
point. They do a camera from her point
(31:37):
of view and there are like just still screens at certain point
but there also are like slow camera pans at others and it
just made like maybe you've really just like a feeling of
dread like as the movie progressed like I was kind of
just like sinking back into my seat, as it was going on.
(32:00):
It's definitely one. You want to watch where it's
like you're in a dark room and there's no light coming in and
like have your earphones in so you can hear anything.
Like they had subtitles on the screen when I went and saw it
because they wanted you to be able to hear what the kids are
saying. Look in the theater.
Yeah. Oh, cool.
And it's, we could always do that.
You know. You should do them more often
(32:23):
movie theater. Just a hint.
I saw it with a few other people.
And it was just so quiet in the theater because everyone was
just like, just watching becauseit was like a build up and it's
just like tents. Like you just feel tense and
just read the whole time becauseyou didn't know what the fuck
(32:43):
was going to happen. You didn't what was going on,
but obviously it's not going to be for everybody, but I had a
great time. I really enjoyed it.
I might re-watch it some time, especially cuz I need it needs
to be dark. Like cause this is like setting
like the 1990s. 1995 specifically.
And it has kind of like that, you know, that like film, like
(33:05):
slight grainy film fish over. Like, it's not like crystal
clear, you know, how video cassettes were.
It was kind of like that, like home movies and shit.
So having a really dark room will help you be able to see
things a little better. And then after that, I went
totally 180 and watched Puss in Boots.
The Last Wish fucking fucking fantastic film.
(33:28):
Absolutely loved it. I had a great time.
The whole time I highly recommend watching that.
I also, then the next day, I watched a Repo, Man, which was
from the 1980s. I just wrote it down, like, on a
list of guy cause I was looking at the criterion's, we had in my
store and I was like, what spines of a movie are catching
(33:49):
my interest that I want to like give it a go and dig like green.
Yeah, the cover art is so much cooler than the actual movie.
Terrible. It's not the worst thing I've
ever seen, but I'm just like Like this is up there.
(34:12):
I've never seen it at, it's justfunny to me.
It's yeah, it's something it's something I will tell you that
and they're like chasing. This is a movie.
It what? That's a movie.
And then kind of towards the endof January.
I watch the Slumber Party Massacre because we all should
watch it. Yes to kick off my February.
(34:37):
I watch safe by Todd Haynes, which I think everybody should
watch. Absolutely.
Oh, yeah, that's been on my listforever to do for this.
I just, yeah, gotta watch. I then watched his girl Friday,
because I wanted a little Cary, Grant movie to watch and that
Also been on my list for a long time to just watch.
(34:58):
It was a good time, I enjoyed itand then because it's always
been on Sydney's like favorite films of all time.
I watched a new Leaf by Elaine May which was her first film.
It was fantastic and a great time and then watches every
Valentine's Day so perfect. So tomorrow, yes, you can be
watching it. And finally, they just finished
(35:24):
him yesterday. I watched the 1940s Alfred
Hitchcock version of Rebecca because I just finished the book
and I'm obsessed and then fresh quack.
Oh God. I am obsessed in the next time
Criterion because on sale. I'm getting that film was.
I'm just like yeah. I'm just like just I got to see
that bad boy on nitrate film, I like oh melted my ass, on my God
(35:52):
makes my brain go. I know a lot of what we need to
do in the future. Yeah, we got some films on
(36:14):
there. We can definitely do I haven't
read. I haven't read to too much, but
I've been in a nice little reading, you know, going, I read
a Start women by say a commemorative Marauder which is
like a like a hundred and thirtysomething Page.
Buckets are a little short storykind of thing going on, which
was a nice read. And then the Dutch house by Ann
(36:35):
Patchett which was a Pulitzer Prize finalist.
And the cover had always caught my eye and I figured let's go
ahead and watch it and to or read it.
Watch it reflect is same thing and this point and today, I just
finished Outline by Rachel cusk.And now I'm about to read The
Phantom of the Opera novel because I've never read it
(36:59):
before and I just seen the musical at the beginning of the
month and Ben Crawford, I'm obsessed.
My dad says he's like the second-best Phantom after Graham
after Grant Norton which is the first fam he ever saw in the
1940s 1990s. I can't talk.
(37:20):
Look, damn, my dad's old. I will tell you right now books,
great has nothing. The musical has nothing to do
with it. There are two different fan of
musicals and neither of them. Do a good job at all and
adapting the book but we say no.Yeah.
You could. Do you know about the the
Phantom book that was written bylike it's like it's basically
(37:41):
like a fancy suit. A dozen K.
Yeah. Susan K Phantom yes.
Of course. Who you think you're talking to?
I should have known better. Oh my God.
Don't, don't, don't open. That can of worms, eat that late
night, when we covered the Joel Schumacher movie, it's all over
(38:05):
for you guys. I like that.
Andrew Lloyd, Webber chose him to direct, like he was the first
and only choice to direct The Phantom of the Opera movie,
because Jill, because Andrew Lloyd, Webber liked the music
choices that he did for the Lost, Boys.
You don't like that's that wasn't.
How was the coffee cake? Damn.
(38:28):
Hire me. We love a good music,
supervisor. Hey, fresh had good music.
You know it did. Okay.
So you've seen ex machina, right?
Yeah. Didn't that dancing kind of give
you a little ex machina vibe? Oh, because that's what I was
(38:50):
like. Oh, like what is there on this
dance floor at a dance Order checking?
Oh, that's also. Good movie.
What have you been up to watcheda lot of horror but I can tell
you some, my January was a lot of just trying to catch up on
the awards stuff that might be nominated or were nominated that
(39:12):
I actually wanted to see. Like, there's some stuff it's
like, I'm not gonna watch Elvis,I'm sorry.
But also I watched Washed fucking after sun in wrecked my
ass. And I'm glad Paul Mezcal got a
nomination, because if you're a dyke with dead dead issues,
you're going to love after son, is what I'll say.
(39:34):
I think we should somehow get Charlotte Wells to get to direct
the fun whole movie. Based on this movie, oh, say
also watch Causeway, which is really good with Brian Tyree.
Henry, got a nomination for it is him and Jennifer It's really,
really solid little kind of two-hander Indie, watch the menu
which was bad anyway. I won't talk about so bad, 84
(40:01):
Brady, I don't know that's and Ifinally watched Coda which was
last year's Best Picture Winner.So we're really behind I'm not
I'll be real, I'm not mad at won.
Best picture of those it, but I was like watching them like this
one best. Like it's just like a cute
music. Cool.
(40:29):
I'm not going to be mad about this baby.
Oh no. I totally like we could have had
way worse off than Kota wouldn'tbe P cats meowing.
He's like Kota rocks. We talking about that's it.
(40:51):
And that I'm just gonna be watching your shows because I
can't and cooking shows because I my brain can't handle new
content Haley. I'm re watching Kevin can fuck
himself. Because nice.
I haven't watched the second season since it aired, so like
we're about to go through it. Yeah, I don't know.
I guess I'll catch up, I haven'tseen skin wearing or anything.
(41:14):
Yeah, that's all. That's that that's that sounds
good. I will well, by the time this
airs I will be back home. Visiting family for my birthday
forever. Just for a little visit.
Just take a little time off fromwork and then coming back.
Don't have money future plans. Other than that, though, I'm
(41:38):
just taking it one day at a time.
Gotta file my taxes eventually, and I don't want to do the
TurboTax. Super Bowl commercials, don't do
your taxes. Bad catchphrase.
Yeah, please terrible. The no?
(42:03):
Yeah, it's freshest. It's a yeah.
If it sounds like it's a movie that is up your alley, I
definitely say go for it. They don't really show any of
the stuff happening that, you know, no losses from ass and
Molly loses one of her boobs. I don't like, I will give you my
boobs for free. Sebastian Stan, if you yeah,
(42:25):
take something off my chest. Please, what's Joe?
Biden's plan for Sebastian Stan to give me top surgery, haha.
Are y'all. It's like yeah this is just a
little bit. I need something a little
flattered that should have been his thing like, hey, do you want
(42:45):
to like he should have just donea Top surgery.
I don't know what kind of meat you get from there?
But yeah, wait, we've cracked the code Tit for Tat.
If you will give me some of thatmoney getting yanked Away by a
cane now. That's fresh babe, that's fresh.
(43:11):
Anyways. If you celebrated Valentine's
Day, I hope you watched fresh orat least had a good day.
I will be watching Reservoir Dogs, the most romantic movie
ever made and see you all next month.
You can find me at Eggman, on Twitter, you can find me at LM
designs on Twitter. The podcast we have a Twitter
(43:33):
and Horton pod and Facebook stop, or time pod.
I feel like what we do. And would like to support us
going forward, you can give us areview on iTunes, Stitcher
Spotify wherever you listen to podcasts.
It's mostly just for the algorithms just to get a spread
out shows to new people so I cancheck us out.
We're great for people who want to know more about horror but
(43:53):
just can't watch it. So we will see you guys next
month. Thanks for listening and have a
good Valentine's Day. Everybody.
Bye.
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