Talkin’ Cowboys: Pouncing on the ‘Prevent’ Panthers?

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback & Josh Rodriguez preview a Panthers defense with what appears to be tons of space to throw and run, but can an inept Cowboys offense take advantage? Isaiah’s QB Vision is complimented by a pessimistic Patrik.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
From the Dallas Cowboys World head Course at the Star
in Prisco. Touchdown six segmentcot Tinton any patient, Tuchdown and now.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black
Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,
in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We've got the
whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today.
We've got Patrick Noc Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back,
you're eating your.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's my turn. I know what early it is?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Early?

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Where'd you getting from?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's never too early, folks.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
I got him from the internet. Let's go, and I
picked them up here at the Cowboys facility.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Nice, so very nice. They had the whole box waiting
for you.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Oh no for me. Yeah, I didn't have to go
through the box process. Yeah, help me out, flips. Nice.
You have your resources, Kyle, you gotta gotta make it happen.
Gotta make it happen on my healthy tip v I you,
I was getting a little hustbery.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Poor you said, you tell me you're down how many
pounds since last week?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Well check me out, Kyle. Last week, I was just
thinking that I stepped on the scale. You know what
I mean. I'm gonna need my brothers to tell me
when your boys getting.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
A little USSEDX seven pounds. I tell you everything.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I stepped on the scale last week and I was
two hundred and fifty four pounds. Two fifty four, mind you,
as opposed to I normally hang around the two forty mark.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
If I'm not doing anything, sow you up like fourteen.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
So so I was like, I was math, I'm mathing.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
I tried to put on it. I try to put
one of my normal suits and it just wouldn't fit
in away and normally fits and it's custom suit, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Kind of like kind of like ripping the pants like
SpongeBob not that kind of doing that.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
But but my top, but you know in your top
button don't don't button head? Yeah yeah, So I have
to make a change. So I started getting back on
my cardio game. I started eating cleaner again and Bro.
This morning, I wigh in, I did my little workout,
came in, waited in right before I, you know, got
in the shower to forty six baby.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Okay, Well, to be fair, you wear a lot of sweatshirts,
so I didn't know if it was all guess what.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
No, you were you were a turkey neck.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
It was turkey. You were not turkey. There was noble.
A young young Hutch took a picture of the other
day at the stadium. I said, wait a minute, Jackson,
is no doubles. Gotta make a change.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
I'm taking offense to all of this. And it was
I'm not the one that my pants.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't even think, I said, knows that story yet.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Oh yeah, he ripped his pants the other day in the.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Press box like me. They were busted out after pregame. Bro,
I went and sat down and I'm talking o Bro.
Oh dude, like belt line all the way down to
the inner thigh.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Absolutely rip.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Yeah, like the whole back squaks, broquats.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's not what it was.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's more like fatherhood Dad bought is what it is.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Disneyland Mickey popsicles.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, that looks like a showed that on a one shot,
I look like a shark's mouth. Yeah yeah, no, I
like a shark from mouth.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
One too many Mickey Mouse popsicles.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
You can see the light that is Kyle's.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Did you hear those, buddy?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Those Mickey ice cream bars last week?

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Got me? Man, did you see him with the with
the rip pants?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I kept it very sly.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
The only person I was like a freaking oh, I
know the window.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I told the stories, so I don't want to go
all the way back through it. But basically I had
Barry look at it and I was like, how bad
is it? And he was like, all right, sit back down.
And it was bad because like I had green underpants on,
like you just want oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
All the way.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Cow had the Grinch draw Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Not good, so black pants, oh yeah, the black pants,
green underpants all the way through. So basically, long story short,
I walked to my truck, found some jeans, went to Walmart,
bought some new pants, went back to my truck, changed
into the new pants, and got back up to the
breast box.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
In the two minute warning of the of the second quarter,
dues that.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Would wear the underpants that have the hearts on them.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know what I mean, oh, like the like the boxers,
very wide boxers with the hearts on them.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah right, I probably I thought that was reserved for
for guys who have like vans with shack carpeting inside.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
No, how do you not know what I drive? I
mean what I mean?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I work with you.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
I know, I'm just messing with you.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
All right, let's get introduce some notes. We got plenty
to get. So that was there for that, Oh, I know.
That was the first thing I said to Barry. I
was like, I'm glad you're here and not Isaiah shark bite.
He would have been Isaiah would have turned around.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
And been like, hey, I would have made a scene.
It would have been a whole scene.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Barry's a good friend over here taking up.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So as we transition from senior green draws. Wait they
were green out of the pack right, Oh yeah, out
of the pack.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Thank god.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
All right, News and notes, we're gonna go over the
Cowboys injury report as we as we talked about Cooper
BB this week. Obviously the headline is to Marven over
shown he would had the injured reserve unfortunately here shortly,
but Cooper BB, he's in question obviously going into this
short week. Like I said, my expectation is that he
will not take the field in Carolina against the Panthers.

(05:59):
Mike mccar said that he is making some progress, there's
a chance, but doesn't sound exactly optimistic. That's not the
way I would describe it. So Cooper Beebe did not
participate in practice on yesterday. Expected Eric Kendricks. He had
a non injury related issue. So he's listed as a
shoulder because he's been dealing with the shoulder, but the

(06:21):
reason he misspractice was for a personal matter that's undisclosed
at this time.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
One year.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Thomas continues to deal with the meniscus issue in his knee.
Did not participate. His was two to three weeks from
the date of the injury. We'll see if he can
get back on the field this season. Trayvon Diggs limited.
C J goodwhen limited with the hamstring issue. Ceedee Lamb
still nursing the shoulder, but he did practice limited capacity.
Jordan Lewis hamstring issue, but he practiced in unlimited capacity

(06:47):
as well. Everyone else that's on the injured reserve. I'm
sorry on the injury report. Dran bland Rico, Daldo Tyler,
Gott and Marshaw Kniela and Tyler Smith. They are all
full participants in yesterday's practice.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
I don't like that. Why delete that?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's not likable.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
It's It's not like there's not many instances where I
would actually go back in times, you know what I mean,
take a time machine and reverse things.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
But if I could go back to that, that Bengals
game and just fourth.

Speaker 9 (07:13):
Quarter, if you have a machine where you're going back
to in yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going back to March,
this free agency thing fixed, and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
I'm not shots I'm fired, not shots fired.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I'm just saying what I would easy man, I'm just
saying this is what I would do if I had
a time machine.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
You know, I think it would take a lot longer
than March to fix that free agents. I had a
time machine, I would go to go further back to
the second quarter of the Cincinnati game in the press box.
I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I was watching on my phone from the second quarter.
It was the very first Like literally, as I sat
down from pregame, I had not even gotten food yet,
I am with It would.

Speaker 8 (07:58):
Have been worse if you were eating you a big
plate of food. You sit down and your fans you're like,
you know what I'm gonna put this?

Speaker 5 (08:05):
I walked, I walked. I went back for the halftime
like thing and food.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
You know there was there was.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
At this point, it's all done. Dammage is done. That's
why I'm eating nothing but egg whites today.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Over n he just pictured Josh with the time machine
and everything rewinds back and certainly we were back in
the press box and we turn around and Josh seat
is empty and went like, where's Josh? And it's the
the offending play that injured to Marviy on the show.
Suddenly we looked down on the.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Fields are just running.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
There's a fan on the field.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
He's just running full speed to dive right in front
of the guy who's about to be thrown into Demo's knee.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
He's like, take me, and God take me.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I feel like vision I have visioned running across the
field with a big shark hole in the drawers, green draws,
running like grew across the dog field.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
They're just splitting the runs.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Welcome to Talking Cow.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
His pints are desperating like Forrest Gump.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Avenger. I was running Yellowjack security.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yes, he's on my butt. We gotta have your kids
yelling at the screen.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Getting that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, whenever we read an injury report like that, we
got to find some level of humor.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
We gotta find something.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
So you said, what is why dealing with a game miniscus?
So it's two or three weeks from the injury wait
to bring that back roughly is a hell yeah, yeah,
we uh we stand for one year here, Yea. Absolutely
so anybody else on that injury report that.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You're even that, I mean, you're gonna ask me this
everyone Yeah, pretty much that that you're concerned about make
Cooper BB is the big one.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
But obviously if he's not able to play, then brought
offmin slides in the starting center and TJ Bass and
the right guard, everyone else, I mean, je Yea, we
knew he'd miss this game. Trayvon practice, everyone else participated
in practice that I would kind of draw a circle
around ceedde Lamb.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
He participated in practice.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Jay lou deran Rico guy in Niland Smith, I mean
Tylers Smith, those guys are a practice. So really, outside
of what we know about Cooper BB, nothing else really
jumps out because like I said, Eric Kendricks did not
practice yesterday, and although he's listed with the shoulder that
he's been dealing with, it was a personal day for him.
It was something he was dealing with outside of work.
So yeah, I mean, other than Cooper, Beb everything else,

(10:52):
I don't want to say it's positive, but it's not
as it's not worse. It didn't get worse yesterday.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
It's been worse.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
I was gonna say it didn't get worse yesterday.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, And that really all I can say at this point.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
So it's not the worst thing in the world. I'll
give you that.

Speaker 11 (11:06):
Man.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
It didn't get worse yesterday. That's all I can say. Man,
now that you check me tomorrow, now.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
That you've had a little bit of time to kind
of peace through the film of TJ. Pass and brock
Hoffman as your interior or offensive line, did you feel
better or worse after watching it again than you did
on Monday seeing it.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
In real time?

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Watching it back gave me the same same film, the.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Same fuzzy wuzzies and mobili that I watching it in
real time. I mean, in real time it felt like
they were really doing well up front, and then you
go back and watch the film and lo and behold
your eyes did not deceive you from the real time assessment.
They were really doing well. They were protecting Cooper Rush
quite well. Like we talked about, there were times when
Cooper Rush had plenty of time in the pocket, he

(12:00):
just didn't make the throw. They were also opening up
lanes for Rico Daldill to continue to do damage on
the ground. So from my perspective, brock Hoffin and TJ.
Bass played very well.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
If you saw, I mean, I agree with you. But
one thing that I saw as far as the offensive
line goes, was Tuma. Like I thought, last week was
a much better impression of what what you'd want to
see out of Tuma than you did this week.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
This week, I agree.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
I don't want to say he took a step back,
but it just didn't feel like he brought him work.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
That's one hundred percent.

Speaker 12 (12:31):
Part of it.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
That's Trey Hendrickson absolutely took him to school.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Trey Henderson. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
So, and this is really good, right.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And this is not to say that that Chuman necessarily
can't handle himself, but Trey Hendrickson does what he does
to everybody.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
He lines up again.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
So Chuman walked into that game with the odds stacked
wildly against him, and it played out how we thought
it would play out.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Trey Hendrickson is him. I agree.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
I just don't think that the footwork was necessarily there
for Tuma this week transpired to last week.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
A lot of that is he desgration.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, he gets your feet tangled up outside step and
then come inside with the inside step, then go outside.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
He's nasty. When I watched it back on Tuesday, it's
still weird to me. It feels like a Wednesday today,
but Tuesday. Whenever I watched it back, I thought brock
Hoffman may have had his best game as a cowboy
in my opinion, because he was uber efficient in pass
block and run block, both at guard and at center.
And if you can do that and then over the

(13:37):
course almost split fifty to fifty, you had about I
think it was thirty snaps at center and it was
like twenty six snaps sick guard or something like that.
It was almost split fifty to fifty, and he was
just as effective.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
In both spots. And I love that. I think that versatility.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was already sold on brock Hoffman by what he
had shown previously, but now I see why he got
the nod over ToJ.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Bass.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Bass is still a great player, and I think as
a pass blocker, I think TJ. Bass was very good. Yeah,
if not perfect for what you were asked to do.
He wasn't perfect in winning every single rep and whatever
I don't think he allowed did not allow a pressure.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
He did have the one penalty.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't love what I saw from a run blocking
standpoint from from TJ. I think he can still be
downhill a little bit better. I really liked what I
saw pass blocking from both guys, but brock Hoffman was
the one that did both well.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
You say that, but that was Rico o'daddle's best game
as a Cowboys running back, and.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Most of it came after or before TJ. Bass was
in there. Though that's fair. He kept it going, he
kept running well, and I think they continued to run
the ball effectively with Rico Daudell and.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
That's after they let off the gas pedal as far
as the run game goes.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but I think not that TJ. Bass was bad
as a run blocker. I just think he was better
as a pass blocker, whereas brock Hoffman was great at both.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
You gotta love the that you have currently at offensive
line when you're fully healthy, you have to. You have
to appreciate what they've done. And the scouts on this
team obviously have had some impressive work when it comes
to evaluating offensive line.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
And give credit to the coaching staff too for for
not giving up on certain guys too. Absolutely, it brought
very easily. Whenever he's picking fights in training camp and
he's he's showing some nastiness at different times that could
be taken the wrong way from time to time, and
that hasn't been the case. They've stuck with him and
he's rewarding them. I feel much better about this offensive

(15:35):
line now than I did prior to the Zach Martin injury.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
And that's a sentence. I don't think I would have
ever said it in my entire.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Life, but you're entirely that is accurate.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, I feel much when you consider this season Zech
was having because he was banged up time and again
and he was dealing with what turned out to be
a generative situation at his ankle. I mean, it's it's
not an outlandish state meant to make. I mean, we
we talked about, you know, possibly going bass fishing. Yeah,

(16:06):
before the season ending ankle injury. So yeah, And like
you said, shouts out to Will McLay and the scouting
staff because in the scouting department, because we're sitting here
talking about in brock Kaufman and TJ. Bass, two undrafted
guys who are.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Playing andttributing at a high level.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
In short order, contributed at a high level to the
point where we feel confident about that going forward. That's
that's saying a lot for both the scouting department, how
they've been coached up and of course those players and
just grinding away, grinding away, looking for their opportunity and
then making the best of it when the opportunity presented it.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
If you would have asked me, and this is why
there's still significant portions of these games coming up down
the stretch, if you would have asked me a month
ago who the first round pick was going to be
for the Cowboys, what position group it would be? I
think I would have said left tackle. I think I
would have said, Okay, we're gonna pick it. Yeah, I
think we would have. I would have said we were
picking in the fifteen, you're going to take You're flipping Guiton.

(17:03):
You're cutting Terrence Steel, cutting with him completely that this
was a month a month ago.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Let that be No, where you are I'm not there now.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think now, with TJ Bass and Brock Hoffman and
Terrence Steel and some of the things I've seen as
the season is done on, I think I would rather
keep Guiton at left tackle.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
I am crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I would keep Early on.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
In the season, I was like, what good?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
But no, I would totally take a left tackle. Flip Guiton.
Then you've got three first rounders in your in your
on your offensive line. TJ Bass, at that point in
my head, was going to be.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Your future right guard.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
One Zack Martin decides to call it quits.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
I love what Cooper BB does at center.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I felt good about my offensive line with that pick.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
I don't want to do that anymore. Do you want BB?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
What was that? Would you want to go back to
BB after what Hoffman showed? Yeah, because I would put
I would put Hoffman back at guard. BB's your starting
BB's your starter centers, guys.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
And it's an answer, would you would you go back
to bebe?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't know? Wow, Now you're the one, You're the
crazy one.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
All right, mister hot take care to care to drop
in an explanation like.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
You were that.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Go to break.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
The window long, I honestly haven't. I haven't watched enough
of those guys. I don't think we've seen enough. I
haven't watched enough of those guys doing what they do.
But I I there is something about having a sinner
who has an edge and who has a nastiness, And
I haven't watched enough Cooper Bebe to say yay or.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Nay, Bobe has nastiness.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
I don't know if he has stops at the whistle.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Yeah, No, I mean I don't think that's fair to
compare him to Brock when it comes to.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Like he just sounds aggressive that I would have to
do in order to do either any of them justice,
I would need to do a will sit down in
film review to watch the energy inside eye.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
What I will say is Hoffman is very good at center.
But there is a reason BB beat him out at center.
So you put BB back at center, and you instead
of trying to decide which play center, you put them
right next to each other like you were doing, and
you prosper, and you prospers, Bros.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Prosper that's actually pretty going to stick.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's going to stick. The thing about now, that was
a month ago. Remember that was what I was looking
at of the draft ahead of time.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Now, with TJ.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Baffman showing me what they've done and the versatility that
they've shown on the offensive line, you have the ability
to go away from the offensive line in the first round.
Don't know where they're going to go yet. It may
be wide receiver, it may be running back, it maybe
whoever the hell it ends up being from the defensive
side of the ball. But it gives you the option,
and that's something you didn't have. I don't think going.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Forward at linebacker. Linebacker, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
It ends up your back at linebacker.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
But shouts I don't know about the first round. No,
I wouldn't say first round, but shouts out line running back.
Shouts out to the Cowboys because they call a lot
of smoke from certain pockets of the fan base for
using that pick on merist when because obviously a lot
of fans, we included wanted a running back around that time. Right,
you used to pick on the linebacker, and then the

(20:22):
run on the running backs occurs and you start losing guys, right,
but as it turns out, Marist is going to be
much needed in the absence of the Marveyon nova shown
into and possibly through the entire day of the twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Found Let me let me put it this way or
go for it?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, no, you got I'm just gonna say if that
if you were to be if you were to take
the first, second and third round picks from the twenty
twenty three draft and the twenty twenty four draft, and
you were to say, who is the most productive out
of the first, second and third round picks out of
both of those drafts, marys Lee, if I would probably
lead the way I pick turned out to be brilliant
because de Marvin overshown because of injuries.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
In twenty twenty three, there's your third round pick.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Then you had Schoonmaker and Mazzie Smith as your second
in your first round picks, respectively.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Then you go to this year, you had Tyler Geidon.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Injuries and lack thereof playing time, that kind of thing
happening at left tackle. Your second round pick was whom
I forget, oh, marsh On nealand injuries.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Maris Lee, if.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
That's that third round pick, he's been just as productive
if as anybody else.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
And now he's going to keep you out of being
back in dire straits at linebacker.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yes, arguably more conductive than marsh On Knealen.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well not argue he's been on the feast.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I mean technically was technically so.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
So literally doesn't mean talent wise. There is no literally
in terms of pretty been available, which means he's been
more productive. Part of it is how it goes all right,
when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we're going
to go into a little QB vision. Isaiah has been
taking a look at this Carolina defense, what they bring
to the table. There's only one team in the NFL
that's given up more points per game than the Dallas

(21:57):
Cowboys defense.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Would you like to guess which team?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And that was ummm, I'll tell you after the break.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
We're talking Cowboys.

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All right, guys, time back. My voice is back, so
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really excited.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Okay, great opportunity for the Dallas Cowboys to go against
a team that's worse than them defensively. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
The only team in the NFL that's given them more
points per game than Cowboys Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Do you know why points per game? You know why
Kyle want because they're bad.

Speaker 14 (26:25):
They're I mean, they're bad, but you know why they're
bad defensive line? They are so scared. You guys are
faced defensives that are so scared to get beat, they're scurried.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Shook it. Okay, So teams that are very scared don't
be scared. They do what defensively to ensure that bad
things don't happen. Back a back up. So if you
go back and watch the entire for.

Speaker 15 (26:49):
The Delphia Eagles, the Prevent Panthers, it is literally the
Prevent Panthers. When I say that, I mean the safety
is playing when a quarterback is in a gun formation.
To safety is playing twenty five yards away from the quarterback.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
Which safety is that? Which safety is that?

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Oh? I mean freaking some guy who's here.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know his name x Exavier. Yeah,
we kind of know his game a little bit.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
But it's not just it's not a preference so that works. Yeah,
he chooses pick and chooses. But the woods that was
when keeping it real goes wrong. That was so bad.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
It goes so wrong.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
But it's not a preference thing. This isn't like, hey, okay,
I'm choosing to do my own thing, Like this is
being taught down there and these guys are playing about
twenty five yards off at the safety position, at the
cornerback position, they're playing about eight yards off. Regardless of
the coverage. It doesn't matter if they're playing single high
safety and Cover three. It doesn't matter if they're playing
Cover four, it doesn't matter if they're playing Cover six.
For those that are concerned and trying to figure out
exactly what those coverages mean, well, those coverages mean, I say,

(27:49):
all right, and Cover three there's five guys. Others there's
four guys underneath, okay, And Cover two there's five guys underneath,
including the corners, three linebackers, two corners sitting at the edges.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Understand and didn't.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Cover four there's three guys covering underneath, and they have
four secondary guys that are playing each quarter of the
field in the back end ensuring that nothing bad happens
and it Covers six is a combination of Cover four
and Cover two in which you have guys that are
rolled down playing Cover two on one side of the
field and the other guys are playing deep. So with
all that being said, it doesn't matter. Typically, Typically it

(28:20):
does matter based upon what coverage that they're playing out
of those but all these coverages are kind of playing
and feeling the same right their defensive coordinators calling different
different coverage packages, but they're playing alike because the amount
of space that you're being given to run your routes.
The purpose of calling these different coverages is to give
the quarterback different looks and to present different options and

(28:42):
negate different available holes in the defense. When you're playing
eight to nine yards off at the cornerback position, where
you're playing twenty five yards off in the safety position,
it doesn't matter. It all just looks the same.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Yeah, so that's their so far back anyways.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, exactly, it doesn't matter. It's routes on air, right,
the way in which you those fans that have been
have been blessed enough to go to the stadium and
watch the Cowboys warm up, you know, and run routes
with the quarterbacks throwing the ball to the receivers and
the tight ends, and those guys are just no defenders.
That's exactly what it looks like that. And literally there
is nobody at the line of scrimmage pressing.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Up at all. So just to add to that, and
it's not just the safeties, it's everybody across the board.
Linebackers have aligned four point seven yards off the line
of scrimmage on average.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
This season and the Panthers defense it's the second deepest
of any team amongst their linebacking unit.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Because of this kind of a side product of it,
the defense has allowed one point nine yards before contact
per carry.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
That's almost two yards per carry gift before anybody that's touch.
That's called contact right there, that's all it can be.
That is giving up yardage in terms of running.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Imposing rushers also averaged three and a half yards for
actual or for every actual rushing yard game designed runs
against the Panthers defense fewest in the NFL. I'm glad
you brought that up. So it's pretty wild.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
So obviously I just adjusted the passing game in the
running game that there are plenty of holes and opportunities
on the ground, and a lot of it is because
of that, a lot of it because how far off
everybody's playing right. And the thing is you compound the
fact that their secondary plays far off right. You always
hear the analogy if you have a bad defense, you
typically have corners that have a lot of tackles. Not
this team, because the corners are too far away to

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come up and make an impact. So if your corners
are playing too far away and your defense is not
in a position to make tackles. Now, all of a sudden,
you start getting those stat lines where you have two
yards before you get any kind of contact, because you're
getting across the line of scrimmage, down the field up
to the second level before anybody.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Can touch you.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Not only that, they don't do a good job of containment.
So whether it's a running back or whether it's a quarterback,
you're able to break containment on these guys and get
outside the tackle box. And therefore, if your receivers are
running off their guys and not blocking out the line
of scrimmage, but they're faking as if they're running a route,
and there their guys fifteen twenty yards deep. Now, all
of a sudden, once you break containment of that tackle box,

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you have big plays that are out there, big splash
plays on the ground. So somebody named should have a
relatively good day in this. I say that to say,
don't go into bunch formations, bunch and condensed sets. They
actually do a relatively good job of getting and restricting
and constricting all the running lanes. So spread these guys

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out right. Every times I've seen it in on a
film where you bring everybody in condensed sets, and they
stopped the run. They stopped around. There's just too many
people and one air congesticed. They gets congested. These guys
are playing downhill, but when you spread them out right,
they go right back to their rules. Oh, I gotta play,
I gotta play, I gotta back up, I gotta play off.
I gotta see everything in front of me right, I
need to see it coming. And they're not reacting to it.
So coverage is not great because of the techniques that

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they're being taught. Their running defense is not great. They're
outside linebackers walk up to the edge of the line
of scrimmage to present what looks like a five man front,
which is underfront, so the deepensive line slides are way
from the strength of your tight end. The outside lnebacker
will walk down on the edge and try to present
outside contained run force. Their hips are locked up like
a coon, so they don't do well in terms of

(32:08):
that outside certainment. Once you get outside that tackle box,
you can run for days, so you have opportunity to
pretty much do whatever the heck you want in the
passing game. So Dallas's short passing game works against a
team like this. You know, when Dallas has not been
pushing the ball down the field, Cooper Rushes passes have
been anywhere from four yards or fifteen yards down field.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, they won't need to.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
It works against that.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
That what you're seeing out of Dallas's offense will be
successful against Carolina's defense because of their techniques that they're playing.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
More stats to back up the film that you're breaking
down here? Would you want the good news or the
bad news for me?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Both?

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Man, I'll give you the good news first because it
sets it up better Cowboys offense. You said, what what
do they need to do against this Carolina defense in
terms of them out? Okay, spread formation? Right, spread it out.
Cowboys offenses use spread formations on a league high forty
percent of offensive plays this season.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
That's good, new league high good news. Right? That sounds good.
You want to hear the bad news of it though?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (33:03):
No.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Cooper Rush as quarterback has recorded the sixth lowest completion
percentage in terms of six yards per attempt out of spread.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Formations this year, not this week.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
But you know what, this is a get right game.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
You think this is the opportunity to up maybe not
both numbers, but up the second number a little bit right.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Well, let me tell you this, man, The defense is
not good. That's it. No, let me tell you why
they're not good.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
They are thirty first in opponent yards per game, yeah,
twenty seventh in opponent's yards per play, thirty second in
third down conversion twenty six and opposing red zone scoring,
thirty second in opponent touchdowns per game, and thirty second
in the posts opponent rush yards per game.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
That is not good.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I felt like I know what Patrick's about to say.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Here. I'm letting y'all get it all out of use.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
What do you what are you about to say?

Speaker 4 (33:58):
You were correct? You're correct, fantastic breakdown, You're correct. The
other thing that's true on top of you guys being correct,
is that I don't care. Let me explain what I
mean by that. Let me explain what I mean by that.
We spent the end seem pretty clear to me, buddy.
We spent the entirety of last week. We spent the
entirety of last week talking about how.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Historically horrible.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
The Cincinnati Bengals defense is historically terrible and literally one
of the worst in the last half decade, and one
of the worst in NFL then, and you could only
mount twenty points against them. Now, segueing from what I
said yesterday, we were talking about it during the break.
I wasn't trying to present the Panthers defense as good

(34:46):
or solid or capable. Sure, just statistically they're better than
the literal worst defense in the league. And the Cincinnati
Bengals could.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Couple of areas, couple of.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Areas, but you could only muster twenty points again them
correct on your own field, I.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Would argue this Panthers defense is worse. I guess outside
outside of a lot on.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
The corner of my screen, outside of what Trey Hendrickson
does coming forward to the Panthers, You're right, they do
play sugar, so they give a lot of space. Yes,
they're going to give you a bunch of criminal presents,
Mary Krimin, all right, almost the first down worth of
yardists before they.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Come up and try to put hands at that number.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
But we talked a lot about the offensive line they're
going to have to protect because this Panthers defense last week,
notwithstanding against the Eagles, they can get after the quarterback, Javian.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Clown, they can get after the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
They had three sacks apiece against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
and the Kansas City Chiefs. They had a combined twelve
quarterback pressures in those games. So when you're talking about
Cooper Rush and the offensive line, one thing the Panthers
can do, probably the only thing that they can do effectively,
is cast some disruptions in that backfield. My concern when

(35:59):
it comes to Coop Rush is, yes, the Cowboys have
run spread quite a bit. Yes, Mike McCarthy is calling
the plays that can you know, those quick pass rush
beaters where it's like screen here, quick flat here?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
What are the throws there? Right? Are the reds there?
It's Cooper Rush.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Comfortable even when the pocket is sufficient, I'm not seeing
enough of that. So, yes, this is another game, a
second consecutive game wherein the Cowboys offense has both the
firepower even though they're deficient in a lot of ways. Right,
they have the firepower with Rico dowd Oor. Brandon Cooks
has two touchdowns in two games. Right, Ceedelamb got rid

(36:36):
of the drop seas over the week prior. They have
a sufficient offensive line. Knock On Wood, Jake Ferguson's backlook
Schoolmaker is still being affecting the game as play. Cowboys
have enough firepower to overcome another bad defense, But I
just saw them not overcome one of the worst defenses.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
So that's that's what I mean when I say out
of it.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
But they're also not going up against the best quarterback
in the NFL. That's kind of where I'm at. But
I don't think Bryson is going to be able to
pick apart this Cowboys defense. While simultaneously we'll stop talking
about I know, I know, but I'm saying I don't
think there's going to be enough there for them to
consistently attack what the Cowboys are doing on offense.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
You're saying Dallas doesn't need to score twenty points against
this defense.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
I think they're going to anyone. Yeah, I think they're
gonna I think this has the potential to be a shootout. However,
you do have potentially Trayvon Diggs and you have Doron Bland,
who are going to eliminate.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
I think here's what Bryce Young is able to do
while running outside.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Of the boat. To my concern here, I'm going to
max two things. Can we do it after the break,
Yes we can't. Yeah, let's do it after the right.
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Speaker 5 (40:15):
Beam in the back.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm Kyle Yeoman's can the North Texas?

Speaker 15 (40:18):
Was it mean Green Eagles? Eagles mean green? Yes, there's
no eagles? Is it a Bird's there's.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
An eagle in the logo? But they don't want you
to call them the Eagles? What because Eagles are dumb?
Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
This is what I'm talking.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
Oh okay, well Eagles too.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Amazing.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Anyways, next year, what can the mean Green Eagles?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Can they beat you? And c That's all I want
to probably not Bill Belichick is about to get any
transfer portal, quarterback, wide receiver player possible that in I
L money would buy. And they've got an in I
L money in Chapel Hill.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
They don't have more money than Texas. They don't you.
Actually the money that comes into you is the state
of Texas, Kyle.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I saw the numbers of the revenue share amongst the
American Athletic Conference. Out of the thirteen teams in the
American Athletic Conference, they're number eleven, And.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Well, aren't you helping I.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Skyles a good event that raised like seven hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yes, athletes, So just do that like twenty times a year,
I know exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And then where the Disney and all that money went away.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
We were just talking about allocation of funds exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
So no, U n C is going to be that
Belichick move that's playing chess, not checkers, because in NIL,
the era of college we're getting on a tangent. NIL
era of college football is basically free agency every year
from NIL money which UNC has, and coaching and bringing

(41:57):
in players and being able to circle through them. Bill
Belichick has already had twenty four seasons in the NFL
as a pro head coach and more than that, actually,
but that's a pro head coach. He it's basically being
a pro head coach. Put in college college.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
I've been listening. I know we don't even get on seeing,
but I've been listening to these very well off individuals
in the business world talking about how they are buying colleges. Yeah. Next,
that's pretty not investing, not donating.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Next up on mix shots, what's Miszoo got going on?

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's probably get crazy.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
It's gonna it's already crazy. It's there's gonna be a
side of tangent. I'm not going to go through it.
Let's continue about you. I'm very passionate about college sports.
I love college sports.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
That's why I love the draft. That's why I love
the draft. Marries both of them. You're the freaking man
when its I appreciate it freaking a All right, Patrick,
you said you had some concern, Yeah, my college, no concern.
Captain underpens Is, you're such as sure.

Speaker 12 (43:00):
Sometimes the Cowboys, the Cowboys off Cowboys offense has not
has not shown me that they can really blow the
lid off of poor defenses that they line up against.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Right, So there's some I did go Phil Kendrick, why.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
Live Look at Cayle in the press box, their heads
except their green.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
Oh my god, someone do a photoshop of Kyle.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Kyle before press conference.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
A little.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Cry?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
All right, Oh concern. So I talked about my main
concern the Cowboys offense unable to take full advantage of
bad defenses. But I mean so when you even flipping
on the opposite side. Cole said something on yesterday that
really sticks out that kind of ties on, ties into

(44:24):
what you're saying. You have to wonder where this defensive
mindset is going into this game on a short week
after such an emotionally fracturing loss. Because you talk about
Michael Parsons being overcome with emotions, you talk about the
locker room being so dejected, the most dejected I've seen
them at any point in this season.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
So the question is from a Cowboys defensive standpoint versus
a Bryce Young who's getting more confident and Chop Hubbard
in this offense and Lagett and feeling and they're getting
more confident, and Canalis as a head coach, is getting
more confident.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
I just feel like emotionally they're in two different places
right now.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Now.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
So I don't know what version of the Cowboys defense
comes out.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
I don't know if it's a version that says, you
know what I'm gonna We're gonna show you that we're
not broken from from what happened on Monday night, or
if it's the version that lets Jamar Chase get the
forty yard go ahead touchdown because they're still kind of
in shock and they haven't really recovered from it yet.
So that's to that side of the ball. But again
flipping back to Panthers defense. Yeah, they're gonna give you
a bunch of gifts. Question is can you take advantage

(45:24):
of them when Ceedee Lamb hits you with a deep
crosser and he's waving his hand.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Do you see him? Yeah? Can you get it too?

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Can you get it to him?

Speaker 6 (45:32):
That's another thing, when you get it to him right?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
And can you finally get.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
That's the cust the whole outfit, bro, you gotta do.
It's a whole outfit, kept it under website, whole outfit.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
So that's that's my point.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Can you play defense against somebody who eats raccoons?

Speaker 15 (45:51):
Whatt but get oh he said it eats raccoons and
eat squirrels.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
Oh well, that's just he also can't catch game winning touchdown.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
You're not worried about it?

Speaker 6 (46:00):
That is then I don't know, man, Okay, Ja see what.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'm saying, And I realize I'm playing devil advocate here
because everything we're saying, all four of versus siss is
completely correct. All of the positives that you guys are saying,
as far as why the Cowboys should be able to
walk into Bank of America State and have their way
so to speak against the Panthers defense one correct. The
reasons I'm saying that they may not are also on

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film because we're seeing games in which they are not
taking advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
You have to give credit though, who show because even
as bad as they look on film, they still took
us two times Super Bowl championship team, right, the NFC
favorites in terms of going to Super Bowl this year, right,
and a playoff team in Tampa Bay took them all
to the dog on wire.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Facts.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
And so, like you know what I'm saying, Like as
bad as we're talking about, you got to give them
respect because there's some aspect that they're as competitive.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
That's Bryce Young.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
I think The biggest thing is belief. They believe now,
and and that hurts, making them a little bit.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
More dodgerous in my opinion. If their offense has confidence now,
but so does the Cowboys defense. The ineptability of the
I know Demo going into last I still think Michaeh
Parson's being unavailable.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
I think he's still gonna be fine.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
What your secondary, I think your second secondary has been
playing really.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Trayvon's back, and you got Deran and he those two
enjoy in.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I think they can. They will affect the game.

Speaker 8 (47:31):
And if you saw what Doron Bland did last year
in Carolina, I think you will see that again.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
I think Doron Bland is going to have his best
game of the.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
Year because of the confidence of thinking he can put
it anywhere. And oh, the only problem is you have
Jordan Lewis, Trayvon Diggs and.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
And are you going in with the mindset of we're
going to win this for our fallen brother and Demarvin Overshon.
Are you going in with the mindset of we don't
have de move on the field. I don't know which
one of those two versions show up.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Josh, what do you until concerned about in this game.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Jac Horn, I think is a really solid He's a
solid corner man. I think he's a solid cornerback. I
think it's unfortunate that they're exactly what they're having him
do because he is the antithesis of Trayvon Dicks.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
He is.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
He will not let you have yards after catch. He
will tackle you immediately. He's not afraid to get into
the run game. He is literally the antithesis of that. However,
you have Mike Jackson on the other side, who is
not having his best year his best years.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
We're in Seattle and but we know him as well.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
But he's also so to your point, right, there's a
lot of there's a lot of symmetry here, and I
know we get out of it. There's a lot of
symmetry between these two defenses. Dallas Cowboys have three really
good corners that aren't being allowed to do what they
do best. The Carolina Panthers have one really good corner
and I think a very competitive corner right, that aren't
being allowed to do what they do because Jackson is

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like he's Jackson is a mauler. He wants to get
up there and put his hands out, his physical k.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
He's not having a great year.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
He's not having a great year, right because because of this,
because you're playing seven to nine off ye, yeah, right,
So the things that you do best. You want Jackson,
you want Horn, you want those guys to DeLine of scrimmage,
putting hands on guys. You want Jay Lou, you want
Traymon Diggs. You want Deron Bland and be able to
get up there and put hands on you know, obviously
Durron Bland got the work done to him at the
end of the game, but other than that, get up

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there and put hands on them, right, And so like
both of these secondaries are capable of doing so much more,
but they're being subjected to whatever the coach calls. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Now, and like you said, there is symmetry between both teams,
because I agree with Patrick in the same sense that
you got to see what Cowboys team is going to
show up period, playing and simple, but we're not going
to know that until.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
The first And that's to society ask what the films.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
We're looking at the film and we're Disseconday, just don't
go in thinking the Cowboys are going to hang fifty
on those I don't.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Know, no, no of course not.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
The over under is forty three. I look that up
just a moment ago.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
It's forty three.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I would go with the under because I think an
in offense from the Cowboys versus a confident defense from
from the Cowboys against an inept defense from Carolina and
a confident option almost and I think it ends up
watching out and it would be a low score.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
If if you think that nine to seven, yeah, it'll be.
It may be one of those games and that would be.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Uh yeah, safety in a field ball. Yeah, I love it.
All right, that's gonna do it for us. You're on
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he's gonna drop another seven pounds by the time he

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