January 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback & Josh Rodriguez discuss the Cowboys search for head coach, address rumors circulating around any “frontrunners,” and create their ideal HC candidate.
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
The coaching carousel has begun.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
It's gonna be over sooner than you think, will it.
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It has to be why because once the first two
dominoes fall, everybody else falls.
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And what are the first two dominoes, Well.
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It was Ben Johnson and Aaron Glynn most likely will
not leave the building of the New York Jets today.
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Second interview with the Jets.
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Speaker 4 (01:31):
Feel the role did their playoff exit? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:35):
Did the playoff exit play any role into them getting
a job so soon?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
No? Or it was all dependent on those to.
Speaker 9 (01:42):
Cause any hesitation, you mean as far as like the
way their season ended.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Nope, not at all a little bit of pause here
and there.
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all right, that's that's my question is Yeah, was there pause?
It definitely wasn't any pause for the Bears. We'll see
what the Jets ultimately end up doing, but I could
see one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I kind of thought.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Glenn would either land in New York or New Orleans
one of the news.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
So New Orleans is supposed to be his second stop.
But if you're the Jets, are you letting him leave
the building?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You're not? If he's your number one?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yes, your kids.
Speaker 9 (02:28):
The Bears went hit to hit with the Raiders and
was like, yeah, we're not We're not not doing this.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We're going to just keep throwing money and power it.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
There's no salary caps with coaches. Hey, coach correct?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Okay, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, but I mean those two
were the hold up right in regards the majority of
the NFL, right, in terms of the head coaching positions
that were available outside of the Patriots. Right, the Patriots
had their guy. Okay, that was done and done. Yeah,
everybody else was waiting. Okay, can we get these guys?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Can the Bears get Ben Johnson? Yes?
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I definitely did.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, right here at the buzzard but I no
wonder you're not quoi today? Oh, no, coy today, I
got some bouncing it. Cowboys will have much coaching at
the end of this week. That's why I'm not quite woo.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That's right, I said.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
I call it like you see?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Is it two tears in a bucket?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Are we gonna like what the coast of that statement?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Take it to the stage?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
What about the first part?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Uh? Yeah, the Yeah, I don't know. If I'm there
with you, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I this is.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
The part of the show where we can get into
the ruler better, the rumor.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Mill, whatever is happening here. Yeah, right, but I'm just
not there.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Then you're gonna be the head coach.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
The part of the show that got cut off there.
We were talking about today John Fossil. We were talking
about the exit of John Fossil and how much that
does hurt the Cowboys, how much impact he had around
the impact of Brandon Aubrey and the even presence the
presence of him was only available due to John Fossil
and what he brought to the table.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Same thing with Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Do you know how positive of an individual Bones Fossil.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Is very Do you see him out there.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
He's the most bubbly consistent person you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But he's even better than that because he is that.
Speaker 9 (06:39):
But a lot of people will hear that and think, oh, well,
it takes more than that to be No, these players
will run through a wall for Bones Fossil.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Not only that, he's a historian of the game. I
feel like he's watched every NFL game ever in history.
The dude, his knowledge of the game is.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Absolutely fossil to your point, And as far as his
football like Q acumen and knowledge of the game, that
wasn't NFL officials that were teaching us the media about
the new kickoff rules at training camp. It was Bones
Fossil under the tent holding what amounted to a college.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Course on the new rules for the for the NFL kickoff.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
So, I mean again, most fans understand how huge of
a loss it is for Bones Fossil to depart this organization.
But for those that don't, and just like I said
in the first segment, when we had technical difficulties, for
those that you tie their disdain to him to you know,
one or two fake punchs that didn't work, measure that
up against everything else, positive that he did everything else
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that he meant for the organization. And again, if you
need us to shrink it down for you, just know
that Kyle explained the first segment. You don't have Brandon
Aubrey in this building if not from bones fossil. So
remember that every time Brandon Aubrey kicked sixty five yards
and it's right down the middle, thanks bones. Every time
Cavante Turpin has an impact return, thanks bones. So yeah,
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those types of things and.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
More one of your three that you couldn't lose.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and now we wait to see if.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
And the other two are free agents and the other
one I'm hearing this most likely not.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Well, yeah, what was that they.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Told l Yeah, I mean I've heard the same.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What happened? Not being coy? What are you going to say?
Speaker 7 (08:15):
The probability, My understanding is that the probability of al
Hairs coming back is slim, is very slim.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yes, correct, here's correct. So that is exactly what I'm
hearing as well, there.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
You go blowing it up. Well, this is I mean,
that's kind of quite literally.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Not to do too much revisit on the first cause
segment because we want to get to the second segment.
But like kle said, initially, the longer it took the
Cowboys to make a decision or McCarthy to make a
decision on the Cowboys, however, that resolution world happened. You
put yourself in a position where you have no assistant coaches,
no coordinators under contract, and they can sign with whomever
they want. And like Isaiah said, they don't know who's
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coming in. So is that incoming head coach willing to
keep them or do they want a full completely new staff.
And if you're an assistant or a coordinator, think of
it the other way in that I don't know who
you're bringing in yet I might not want to work
under them.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
But also on top of that, you know this window's closing.
It is closing quickly. Right you're in between two walls,
and the walls are closing in. There's an exit right there, right?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
What window?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
The window of opportunity to sign with a team, to
be a coach the NFL, to be on a team,
to have a job in twenty twenty five slash twenty six, Like,
that's your opportunity for that is closing. As a previous
assistant coach for the Dallas cast past literally right, So
like now, as these top two dominoes, as we mentioned
in the first sere that you might have missed, fall
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in Ben Johnson and most likely Aaron Glenn, other teams
are going to be rushing to fill those voids with
the same pool of coaches. The same handful of pools
of coaches. Everybody's been waiting to see who's going to
get the top two dogs and now, okay, now let's
fill our vois. If you are a previous coach for
the Dallas Cowboys and one of these coaches calls you
and shows interest on you because they have to make
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decisions quickly as well, you were not in a position
to say, hey, stand by, let me check on my
first option that I don't even know who it is yet,
you would be my second option. No, yeah, click, once
that phone ends, I'm on to the next guy. So
you're not in a position to say, no, hold on, wait,
let me see. They're trying to see are you committed
to them.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
You're waiting basically on them to hire a coach that
you don't know, to say, yeah, maybe I'll keep this guy. No,
you have to you have to take me out like
maybe I like this guy, maybe we'll click and you know, if.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
You want to take the respect of this on the table,
which exactly bones exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
The Senior Bowl is another big hurdle on the horizon.
I mean, half of the Senior Bowl is scouting and
what we see and talk about on the Draft Show
and what we'll talk about on Talking Cowboys and all
of that element to it. The other half is the
networking side of coaches that are trying to get jobs.
And at that point you were slim pickens for opportunities
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out there in the NFL because most teams have either
filled their.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Staff because they want to go scout because.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
They want to build to the future, and if you're
a head coach or an assistant coach still looking for
a job, you're kind of out of luck.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Whenever you get to that point.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Only a couple guys get out of that from that
networking capability.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
All right, When All Star Games again.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Kylled coming up this this week. This weekend, the Shrine
Bowl starts and then next week is the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Week.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Practices starts Saturday for the Shrine for the Shrine Bowl
which is here, and the game is next Thursday.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
The first of February.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
So opportunities for your coaches to go see players to
We'll carrying across t talk.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, TikTok is yep, I mean yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Carrying across it's a w W yeah, okay, I don't
like him.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I thought it was like the meme that's been going
around from the Hunger Games about TikTok dying, that whole scenario.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
The we talking about man where to go?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's it's right here, they're crazy, all right. There's been
a lot of.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Hearsay over the last two weeks, right heresay around the
Cowboys on what they're doing, heresay around the Cowboys on
who they're interviewing, on who they're interested in, like the
front runner. The Vegas odds have had everyone except for
Josh Rodriguez as a front runner, which is a shame,
which is unfortunate because honestly, I think he's got a
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better shot than some of these guys to get the
head coaching job. It's kind of bounced around facts, facts.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I want to get through all of the rumor mill
and I want to dispel what is truth and what
is not truth because you've got connections in the building.
You've got connections in the building. You've got connections in
the building. I've got connections in the building.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Building. Beamer has some of the best connections in the building.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Shockingly enough, he's got a lot of that because he's
been around for one hundred years.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So I want to talk about the rumor mill and
what is true? Yeah, we got to hit one hundred
this show. What is true? What is not? Around the Cowboys'
coaching search.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
I'll start with you Patrick, Well, what's true is that
the Cowboys do in fact have interest in Brian Schottenheimer,
and he is expected to interview this week. So that's
not That's not a rumor, that's actually a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Front runner though, I don't anyone labeled a front runner
right now. I think is a rumor I would agree with.
And the front office doesn't know who the front runner is.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
So people who are saying there is a front runner
is it's a.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Complete, complete fabrication. It is a you don't know because
they don't know.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
So it doesn't matter what Vegas' odds are because, like
Kyle said, depending on what day of the week it is.
Yesterday was Shottenheimer, the day before was Kellen Moore the
day prior it was Dion Sanders. Until all the candidates
are actually revealed, how can you know who the front
runner is?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So you can say who has more familiarity, that's the
Killing Moore and the Brian Schottenheimer's of the world. But
then you could say who has more experience, which is
the Leslie Frazier's of the world, and some of these
others who might pop up, who hasn't, who haven't popped
up yet, like a Pete Carroll Water They maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So that's why I'm with Kyle on this one. Isaiah.
Speaker 9 (14:05):
I don't feel like the decision is going to be
made this week because there's no front runner as we
have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
On Tuesday of this week.
Speaker 9 (14:12):
So Deon Sanders, I think that we talked about that.
That's just leveraging and headlining. And my opinion, my opinion
is that Dion being in contract negotiations with Colorado, he's best.
He's with Jerry. Hey, do me a favor, Do me
a favor? Okay, cool, I'm not worried whatever. Kella Moore
is a real thing. Salad can I hit de real quickly?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I talked to a source that was close to Dion
this past weekend, and he said Dion is focused on Colorado.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He said he wants to be in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
He's there's a little bit of me like be focused
on North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Even though both of those signed stop.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Both of those guys have ten million dollars buyouts, So
there's that to it as well. The Dion situation is intriguing,
I think to the front office. I don't think it's
super intriguing to Dion. And I know there was a
report out there that if he was offered the job,
he would take it.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think if anybody was offered the jobs, they'll probably
take it. But yeah, the buyout is a hurdle. The
current extension contracts in Colorado as a hurdle.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
LUs he so will set up in Colorado.
Speaker 9 (15:22):
He so will set up untouchable, especially if this new
contract goes and materializes for you. Yeah, like if you're
Deon Sanders, why would you leave that situation to try
to turn.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
The time and the place to his strengths too, as
well as far as recruiting goes, as far as the
staff staff.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
The amount of staff he was given in Colorado is ungodly.
He would not be able to do that here planning
some so I think the Dion thing is intriguing, might
be kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think we would have a ton of fun with it, Barn.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
However, there's a reason why that was the first thing
that broke. But there's been no interview requested or scheduled
with Dion just yet.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
But there are aspects of Dion that I would love,
certain traits.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm not going to say all.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
There are aspects of most of these candidates and potential
candidates that that I love within their aspects of a
lot of these candidates that I could do without sure,
which is when we go to building a coach. But
first before we do that, I need because I've been
reading Isaiah's eyes for the past five minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, what are your connections?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I need you to speak on what you what you're thinking?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
No, people, you do, because I've seen I think the
Deon Sanders thing at first was fluff, then it became
something that was real because I think that he had
some run ins with his negotiations over there in Colorado.
I think those those negotiations are probably getting getting figured
out now. Yeah, But that there was some pushback in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Oh, it was a real thing. The interest was real.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I think at the beginning it was mutually beneficial, and
then it became a real theme because of the pushback
from Colorado. Almost they almost messed it up. Yeah, So
now I think that's gonna figured out. So I think
Deon's off the table in regards to all the other
coaches that have come through the building or virtual or whatever.
I think that the Joneses are interviewing coordinators. That's what
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I believe. I don't believe that anybody they're talking to
is a head coach candidate. I think they're all talking
about with Kellen Sala. I think they're all up Frasier Frazier.
Then who's their head Frazier is a is a coach,
is a mentor for head coaches. That's what his role
is in the NFL now, No disrespect to him. His
role now is a mentor to new head coaches. So
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as the Cowboys may have been exploring a new head
coach and might be exploring a new first time head coach,
I think they wanted to have an idea of what
Fraser has done in his previous stints. To mentor head
coaches and help with their transition, as he was just
in Seattle with McDonald to help with his transition. I
think that sala is a is a coordinator thing. I
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think that Kellen Moore is a conversation and mainly to
try to see if you can steal him back and
get him back over here to be a coordinated I
don't see him as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I don't think so. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Why would you, he would.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Not exactly, So I think that's what that is. I
think everybody that they have talked to has been a coordinator.
I don't think that they have yet talked to a
head coach candidate unless they've talked to that candidate in
previous stents. And I don't know if I've said John Gruden,
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what's that?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
It's a W? Who's that? Maybe this.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
J W?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't that's what you're referencing.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
No, that's not what I'm referencing. I'm referencing Jason, I don't.
I mean we said this on special edition, but I
believe that one of my picks would be John Gruden,
but he hasn't came up in regards to interviews. I
think he's living it up on first right. I think
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Ron Rivera is still in play. I know some people
aren't necessarily excited about that, but he's a good dude.
He's every when he's had a good a good quarterback,
they won. He knows a defense. He has a culture there.
Either it hasn't came up, but the interviewed here last year. Yeah,
So that's somebody that they don't necessarily coordinator as a coordinator,
that's somebody that they don't necessarily need to talk to
a bunch, right, because they already have an understanding of him,
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and I know they have a relationship with him. So
you're you're left with with those names that have done
it before and that you have a body of work.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I don't know what directions there. Nobody knows what direction
they're going, but I don't. But from the names that
we know have been talked to, these are coordinators. These
are not headcutters.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I do.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I do agree with that, and I do think that
I think with the exception of Moore, You're right, I
think I think I think they're probably touching base with
him to see what you know, have you grown maybe
have you developed in this regard, but you still don't
I don't think, no disrespect to Kellen Moore, but what's
his identity?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
No, eater of men like that, That's one of the
that's the real.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Questions for me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
But I don't even I don't even know his offense
has the identity.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Just being straight off.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
He's leaning on the right now arguably one of the
NFL's MVPs and that for sure.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
But go back to the Chargers, But what's what's been
the identity? What do you know that you're going to
get out of killing More?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
You don't know anything, right, So when you talk about
some of these other coaches.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
You know, you know Ron Rivera, right, regardless of where
you may lay with that, you know what you're going
to get out of him. You know what you're going
to get out of John Gruen, you know what you're
going to get out of some of the candidates that
are now being taken off the board.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
You don't know in regards to killing More.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
So that's why I think no necessarily on that, because, yeah,
one of the boxes that has to be checked is
are you a leader of man?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Are you creative?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Are you can you handle the media, what's your are
you forward facing?
Speaker 12 (20:44):
Like?
Speaker 7 (20:44):
All these things have to be checked, and I don't
think that he possesses the main one. He doesn't have
a character.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
What is his character?
Speaker 9 (20:50):
And also to your point, you don't know exactly what
his scheme is anymore, right because when he was with Dallas,
he was adverse to running the ball hill He got
him let podium a couple of times and kind of
joked about like, hey, if it were up to me,
I throw sixty times a game. Right, you go to
Philadelphia and they won't let you do it because they
got Saquon Barkley and just a monstrous offensive line. So
now it's his identity schematically in Philadelphia is Saquon.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And the best offensive line.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's fair.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
So if you were to bring him, you don't want
to throw sixty times to that quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
If you were to bring him back as a head coach,
you don't have a Saquon. And we don't know how
things shake out in the draft who they will or
will not select at the position. You don't know if
equal Dowd who's going to return, because he might be
on his Tony Pollard stuff right now, which is hey,
this is that possibly the highest I'll be at tering
free agencies value, right, So you just don't know, so
to your point, it's a lot of question marks there.
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So going back to Colle's question, who's the frontrunner right now,
there is no front runner because they don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They're still soaring through some things.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And because of that, I don't think there's a position
open or made or a decision made this week.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I just really don't think it's happening this week. And
does that.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's gonna be just like regular free agency. You're gonna
be left with the scribe to.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Be left with whatever you got at the end of it.
Did we talk about this four weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
We talked about four weeks ago. But this is where
we are, and this is where the situation is. Everybody
that's throwing names out there, whether it's a content creator,
whether it's a reporter, whether it's a website, all of that,
take it with a grain of salt, because not all
of it is true.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Right now that's being thrown out there in the building.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
The truth is they're not really getting anywhere yet, and
this one's not close to being done yet. And as
I say that, as the only truth in this whole scenario.
I'm sure there will be a higher tomorrow because that's
how the thing works. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take
our second break. When we come back, I'm gonna build
the ideal candidate. We're gonna take the best elements from
some of the NFL's past and present head coaches and
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Speaker 1 (25:10):
Or with yours yours e?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
That's what we all are today?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Is it just e?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Or because we're tired of this coaching search. All right,
build a ideal candidate. We're going to build a bear
type things today. We're taking bits and pieces. Yeah, those
things are pricey bits and pieces of the elements of
your Yeah, I know your ideal candidate, either from past
or present coaches in the NFL, and then I want
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you to explain who do you feel like best represents.
Here's the thing, we can't use the same coaches. We're
gonna do this draft style.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
So we're gonna start things off by play calling. Okay,
play calling, and we're gonna let Josh defense. Josh is
gonna go first. We're gonna go offense defense first. This
is your ideal head coach, so you build it however
you want it, offense or defense.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Play calling is the first category.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
What if I don't want then you can say that.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Then pick a coach that doesn't call plays. Okay, so
you can do it that way.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
So we're doing places.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Have fun with it.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Man, we're trying try not to understand.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
For example, for example, if let's say they hire Pete Carroll,
is he gonna call plays on either offense or defense.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So there's your opportunity.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
So we're picking just a head coach right now, just
just your head coach or your head coach.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
What do you want him to imbody from other coaches
out there.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
We're building the perfect coach at top the bottom.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Hey, coach, just a head coach, Just a head coach.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Okay, you're not up yet. Josh is going first.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Play calling wise, let me go with Sean McVay. Okay,
Sean McVay. I think everything that goes into the way
that he calls the game. He actually called a really
great game, uh this past weekend, and to me, they
were the They look like the better team. They really did,
and it was if they just hold on fortunate fumbles
(27:03):
that cost them the game. But I think he's made
Matt Stafford better. I think he's the whole team is
better because of Sean McVay. Give me Sean McVay. When
it comes to play calling, okay, Patrick.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Play calling, give me Ben Johnson's play call.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I want that creativity.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I want that forward thinking, hit coach that's not not
play caller who's not you know, reactive to what the
trends are in the league. You're setting the trends, you're
pulling out back the tricks you're you're scouting collegiate playbooks
and film and looking for new creative ideas that give
me a Ben Johnson for a PlayGame.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Okay, remember this doesn't have to be a candidate and
an opening that's out there.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
It'll be all time.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm gonna get available.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, I'm just making sure I'm going with Kyle Shanahan's
play calling San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach. What
he's done has been enough to sprout the tree of
excellents in terms of offensive play callers across the NFL.
I'm giving, uh, Kyle Shanahan is my play caller up top.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Okay, what do you think I'm going with John Rex Ryan, Oh,
defensive guy. Okay, his play calling exit my time in
the league and what I've seen from him versus some
of the other coordinators. I face this dude, he's like that.
He's like the Ben Johnson of defense. He just creates
whatever the heck he wants to and it's so unorthodox
and innovative, as innovative as.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
All get out.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
It's like he's sitting in bed just drawing it up
on his phone and you know, oh yeah, that's my pig.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Okay, and now you get to go first on the
second category, which is leadership. Who would you want to
embody the leadership of that head coach?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Leadership here with a star, right, I gotta go John Gruden? Okay,
John Gruden as a leader.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
You think you could handle the circus?
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yes, he is the circus.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
He brings it to town and it would be entertaining
embody he embodies circus.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
That would be like that, you know how, like there's
a traveling circus model and then you turn around and
that one's just permanent.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You just build it, you be kind.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I mean his nickname is Chucky. Yeah, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Like, yeah, come on, he's an icon.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You guys understand this all right?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
As far as leadership goes one of the best coaches
to ever handle the weight of the star that we've
talked about and we're talking about all times, pastor President
Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson Man. I think at this point
Jerry and Jimmy obviously they've made up. If you get
a coach in here like Jimmy that is able to
(29:35):
not only lead the team but lead the fan base,
you know, people can galvanize behind a leader like that
and believe in him no matter what, no matter if
you start off with a you know, basically no win season, right,
I think you would find people that are you just
need a figure like that now. I think this fan
(29:55):
base really needs that.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
We need a.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Leader like that. We need a leader like Dan Campbell,
someone that you are able to really identify with and
galvanized behind. I changed to change the culture. You're desperately
in need of that.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
He's been two for two on mine better. I'm going
cool Hand Luke here, so I'll see your Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'll see you, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I think we all see you, jim n.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Okay, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with cool
Hand Luke, the one that started it all. I'm going
I need the leadership of Tom Landry.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's what I need.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Tom Landry, who has shown you talk about Jimmy Johnson
and rightfully so, being able to come into an organization
after several seasons of lost and then he had the
first He had a very bad first season with the Cowboys,
immediately turned that around. Tom Landry quite literally helped establish
this organization as an expansion franchise took it from dirt
ground zero. This is the pre Jerry Jones era. Moved
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it all the way to Super Bowl status Hall of Famers,
you know, Roger star Back and the l like on
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And I know we're in the social.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
Media era nowadays, so when you talk about circus, you're
thinking of it and through the scope of it's because
you know everything about the inner working So you could say, oh, well,
see that's crazy and that's weird. Okay, Well, let me
tell you back in the sixties and the seventies and
even the eighties, there was so much that you didn't
know about because there was no social media. It was
just as much as a circus as far as keeping
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things on the rails in this organization. And Tom Landry
was right there keeping things on the rails and keeping
the Cowboys winning and keeping them relevant, keeping them in
NFC championships, in Super Bowls. So and I also love
the cool hand Luke aspect of it. Of yes, I
love Jimmy's I love Chucky's fire, John Gruden, I'd love
those types of coaches, Dan Campbell. But there's also a
(32:06):
lot to be said for one who no matter what's
thrown at them. It's just the fidor and he's just
cool because you just know that he's going to get
it handled, whatever it might be. And now I think
that invokes a bit of confidence when you tie it
to his experience and knowing what he can do. So
leadership wise, give me Tom Landry.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
In a different sense, but a similar reasoning. I'm gonna
go with Andy Reid from my leader life that kind
of a similar thing. Nothing shakes him, and the play
calling is a side product of it. He's a great
play caller, yes.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But the leadership that he's shown to handle the circus
that is the Kansas City Chiefs you're talking about Travis
Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill in the early
earlier years to win Super Bowls every single year and
to get back to a championship every single year when
the circus around it isn't even involved with football the time.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
A lot of the time, it's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
A lot of the time, it's it's Caitlin Clark at
the game this past weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
A lot of times.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It's it's the Mahomes family outside of Patrick that are
doing weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
On TikTok every day.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yet the focus has always been on two things, football
and cheeseburgers after a win.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
And that's inficiating.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, and somehow he's got dark magics, the official Chi contendis,
so there's that level to it as well. All right, experience, Patrick,
I'll let you go first.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
All this experience, you know, experience, I keep circling. There's
so many to go around, but I'm going to land
on Bill par Sales.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Oh damn, good choice.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
I'm letting on Bill par Sales because that experience. I mean,
it's self explanatory. I don't have to get all the
you know what he's capable of, and you know the egos.
He's been able to rally together, glue together and get
success and get a Super Bowl championship.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So yeah, I'm going par Sales.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I'm gonna go with another Bill, mister Belichick. Just take
the Super Bowls playing and simple. He's won how many
of them now?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
There?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, that's pretty good. So I'm gonna just take that one.
That's an easy win. Experience experience, mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Let's go Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I thought you were going to say, Tom, No, it
was gonna be no, it would have been Bill Bellich Belichick.
I'll go with Pete Carroll. Pete Carol's seen it all.
He came from the Parsils tree as well. He's been
through those ranks. He understands.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
He's seen it at the college level. He's seen it.
He's been a champion many many times. He's been multiple
Super Bowls. He's won it, he's lost it. Right, he
has the experience of feeling both a heartache in the
in the yeah, of course, the height of it. So
I think I will go with coach Carrol.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Okay, Belichick was my answer for a long time. When
I kind of interpreted this, I was sort of thinking of, like, Okay, well,
we saw Bill Belichick towards the end of his career
in the NFL, right, and we saw how that was
going and kind of an unwillingness to innovate when the
game is very much changed and he didn't have the
Hall of Fame quarterback that obviously one of all the
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Super Bowls. I think now of a guy like John Harball.
I think about what he's done with different quarterbacks. I
think of what he's done he's won a super Bowl,
but I also think he has his best years ahead
of him. I don't think he's done by a long shot.
I think he's working with a team that is consistently
(35:26):
in the picture. But unlike a Mike Tomlin, this guy
still performs in the playoffs. He really does. So yeah,
give me John Harball, just catch the sreaking ball. Mark Andrews.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, that was a tough one from Mark. All right.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Uh so yours, Joshes was Sean McVay, Jimmy Johnson, John Harrible.
That's pretty good trio that Patrick has, Ben Johnson, Tom Landry,
Bill Parcells.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You got the New age and the old age is
what you got out there.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Isaiah's was Rex Ryan, John Gruden, and Pete Carroll.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Guy NFL Network. NFL Network team.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Right, that's a competitive, energy, bus driven team, right there, Bb.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Those practices are gonna go. And then mine is Kyle Shanahan,
Andy Reid and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's a lot of hill.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
A lot of my practices are turned. We got a DJ.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Everything ours is you better expect to get it done
and know the playbook and we'll make it happen for you.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
We got DJ's and feet massages.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Uh, mine feels like an overpower like Avengers.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Superhero Sehn McVay, Jimmy Johnson and john you get all
of it together, all right. That's gonna do it for
us here Talking Cowboys. Hope you had some fun with
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It definitely wasn't any pause for the Bears. We'll see
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We were talking about today John Fossil. We were talking
about the exit of John Fossil and how much that
does hurt the Cowboys, how much impact he had around
the impact of Brandon Aubrey and the even presence the
presence of him was only available due to John Fossil
and what he brought to the table.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Same thing with Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Do you know how positive of an individual Bones Fossil.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
Is very Do you see him out there.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
He's the most bubbly consistent person you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But he's even better than that because he is that.
Speaker 9 (06:39):
But a lot of people will hear that and think, oh, well,
it takes more than that to be No, these players
will run through a wall for Bones Fossil.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Not only that, he's a historian of the game. I
feel like he's watched every NFL game ever in history.
The dude, his knowledge of the game is.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Absolutely fossil to your point, And as far as his
football like Q acumen and knowledge of the game, that
wasn't NFL officials that were teaching us the media about
the new kickoff rules at training camp. It was Bones
Fossil under the tent holding what amounted to a college.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Course on the new rules for the for the NFL kickoff.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
So, I mean again, most fans understand how huge of
a loss it is for Bones Fossil to depart this organization.
But for those that don't, and just like I said
in the first segment, when we had technical difficulties, for
those that you tie their disdain to him to you know,
one or two fake punchs that didn't work, measure that
up against everything else, positive that he did everything else
(07:35):
that he meant for the organization. And again, if you
need us to shrink it down for you, just know
that Kyle explained the first segment. You don't have Brandon
Aubrey in this building if not from bones fossil. So
remember that every time Brandon Aubrey kicked sixty five yards
and it's right down the middle, thanks bones. Every time
Cavante Turpin has an impact return, thanks bones. So yeah,
(07:56):
those types of things and.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
More one of your three that you couldn't lose.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, and now we wait to see if.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
And the other two are free agents and the other
one I'm hearing this most likely not.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Well, yeah, what was that they.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Told l Yeah, I mean I've heard the same.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What happened? Not being coy? What are you going to say?
Speaker 7 (08:15):
The probability, My understanding is that the probability of al
Hairs coming back is slim, is very slim.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yes, correct, here's correct. So that is exactly what I'm
hearing as well, there.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
You go blowing it up. Well, this is I mean,
that's kind of quite literally.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Not to do too much revisit on the first cause
segment because we want to get to the second segment.
But like kle said, initially, the longer it took the
Cowboys to make a decision or McCarthy to make a
decision on the Cowboys, however, that resolution world happened. You
put yourself in a position where you have no assistant coaches,
no coordinators under contract, and they can sign with whomever
they want. And like Isaiah said, they don't know who's
(08:51):
coming in. So is that incoming head coach willing to
keep them or do they want a full completely new staff.
And if you're an assistant or a coordinator, think of
it the other way in that I don't know who
you're bringing in yet I might not want to work
under them.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
But also on top of that, you know this window's closing.
It is closing quickly. Right you're in between two walls,
and the walls are closing in. There's an exit right there, right?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
What window?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
The window of opportunity to sign with a team, to
be a coach the NFL, to be on a team,
to have a job in twenty twenty five slash twenty six, Like,
that's your opportunity for that is closing. As a previous
assistant coach for the Dallas cast past literally right, So
like now, as these top two dominoes, as we mentioned
in the first sere that you might have missed, fall
(09:36):
in Ben Johnson and most likely Aaron Glenn, other teams
are going to be rushing to fill those voids with
the same pool of coaches. The same handful of pools
of coaches. Everybody's been waiting to see who's going to
get the top two dogs and now, okay, now let's
fill our vois. If you are a previous coach for
the Dallas Cowboys and one of these coaches calls you
and shows interest on you because they have to make
(09:58):
decisions quickly as well, you were not in a position
to say, hey, stand by, let me check on my
first option that I don't even know who it is yet,
you would be my second option. No, yeah, click, once
that phone ends, I'm on to the next guy. So
you're not in a position to say, no, hold on, wait,
let me see. They're trying to see are you committed
to them.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
You're waiting basically on them to hire a coach that
you don't know, to say, yeah, maybe I'll keep this guy. No,
you have to you have to take me out like
maybe I like this guy, maybe we'll click and you know, if.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
You want to take the respect of this on the table,
which exactly bones exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
The Senior Bowl is another big hurdle on the horizon.
I mean, half of the Senior Bowl is scouting and
what we see and talk about on the Draft Show
and what we'll talk about on Talking Cowboys and all
of that element to it. The other half is the
networking side of coaches that are trying to get jobs.
And at that point you were slim pickens for opportunities
(10:54):
out there in the NFL because most teams have either
filled their.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Staff because they want to go scout because.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
They want to build to the future, and if you're
a head coach or an assistant coach still looking for
a job, you're kind of out of luck.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Whenever you get to that point.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Only a couple guys get out of that from that
networking capability.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
All right, When All Star Games again.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Kylled coming up this this week. This weekend, the Shrine
Bowl starts and then next week is the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Week.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Practices starts Saturday for the Shrine for the Shrine Bowl
which is here, and the game is next Thursday.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
The first of February.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
So opportunities for your coaches to go see players to
We'll carrying across t talk.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, TikTok is yep, I mean yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Carrying across it's a w W yeah, okay, I don't
like him.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I thought it was like the meme that's been going
around from the Hunger Games about TikTok dying, that whole scenario.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
The we talking about man where to go?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's it's right here, they're crazy, all right. There's been
a lot of.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Hearsay over the last two weeks, right heresay around the
Cowboys on what they're doing, heresay around the Cowboys on
who they're interviewing, on who they're interested in, like the
front runner. The Vegas odds have had everyone except for
Josh Rodriguez as a front runner, which is a shame,
which is unfortunate because honestly, I think he's got a
(12:20):
better shot than some of these guys to get the
head coaching job. It's kind of bounced around facts, facts.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I want to get through all of the rumor mill
and I want to dispel what is truth and what
is not truth because you've got connections in the building.
You've got connections in the building. You've got connections in
the building. I've got connections in the building.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Building. Beamer has some of the best connections in the building.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Shockingly enough, he's got a lot of that because he's
been around for one hundred years.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So I want to talk about the rumor mill and
what is true? Yeah, we got to hit one hundred
this show. What is true? What is not? Around the Cowboys'
coaching search.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
I'll start with you Patrick, Well, what's true is that
the Cowboys do in fact have interest in Brian Schottenheimer,
and he is expected to interview this week. So that's
not That's not a rumor, that's actually a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Front runner though, I don't anyone labeled a front runner
right now. I think is a rumor I would agree with.
And the front office doesn't know who the front runner is.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
So people who are saying there is a front runner
is it's a.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Complete, complete fabrication. It is a you don't know because
they don't know.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
So it doesn't matter what Vegas' odds are because, like
Kyle said, depending on what day of the week it is.
Yesterday was Shottenheimer, the day before was Kellen Moore the
day prior it was Dion Sanders. Until all the candidates
are actually revealed, how can you know who the front
runner is?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So you can say who has more familiarity, that's the
Killing Moore and the Brian Schottenheimer's of the world. But
then you could say who has more experience, which is
the Leslie Frazier's of the world, and some of these
others who might pop up, who hasn't, who haven't popped
up yet, like a Pete Carroll Water They maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So that's why I'm with Kyle on this one. Isaiah.
Speaker 9 (14:05):
I don't feel like the decision is going to be
made this week because there's no front runner as we
have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
On Tuesday of this week.
Speaker 9 (14:12):
So Deon Sanders, I think that we talked about that.
That's just leveraging and headlining. And my opinion, my opinion
is that Dion being in contract negotiations with Colorado, he's best.
He's with Jerry. Hey, do me a favor, Do me
a favor? Okay, cool, I'm not worried whatever. Kella Moore
is a real thing. Salad can I hit de real quickly?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I talked to a source that was close to Dion
this past weekend, and he said Dion is focused on Colorado.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He said he wants to be in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
He's there's a little bit of me like be focused
on North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Even though both of those signed stop.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Both of those guys have ten million dollars buyouts, So
there's that to it as well. The Dion situation is intriguing,
I think to the front office. I don't think it's
super intriguing to Dion. And I know there was a
report out there that if he was offered the job,
he would take it.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think if anybody was offered the jobs, they'll probably
take it. But yeah, the buyout is a hurdle. The
current extension contracts in Colorado as a hurdle.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
LUs he so will set up in Colorado.
Speaker 9 (15:22):
He so will set up untouchable, especially if this new
contract goes and materializes for you. Yeah, like if you're
Deon Sanders, why would you leave that situation to try
to turn.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
The time and the place to his strengths too, as
well as far as recruiting goes, as far as the
staff staff.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
The amount of staff he was given in Colorado is ungodly.
He would not be able to do that here planning
some so I think the Dion thing is intriguing, might
be kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think we would have a ton of fun with it, Barn.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
However, there's a reason why that was the first thing
that broke. But there's been no interview requested or scheduled
with Dion just yet.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
But there are aspects of Dion that I would love,
certain traits.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm not going to say all.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
There are aspects of most of these candidates and potential
candidates that that I love within their aspects of a
lot of these candidates that I could do without sure,
which is when we go to building a coach. But
first before we do that, I need because I've been
reading Isaiah's eyes for the past five minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, what are your connections?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I need you to speak on what you what you're thinking?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
No, people, you do, because I've seen I think the
Deon Sanders thing at first was fluff, then it became
something that was real because I think that he had
some run ins with his negotiations over there in Colorado.
I think those those negotiations are probably getting getting figured
out now. Yeah, But that there was some pushback in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Oh, it was a real thing. The interest was real.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I think at the beginning it was mutually beneficial, and
then it became a real theme because of the pushback
from Colorado. Almost they almost messed it up. Yeah, So
now I think that's gonna figured out. So I think
Deon's off the table in regards to all the other
coaches that have come through the building or virtual or whatever.
I think that the Joneses are interviewing coordinators. That's what
(17:14):
I believe. I don't believe that anybody they're talking to
is a head coach candidate. I think they're all talking
about with Kellen Sala. I think they're all up Frasier Frazier.
Then who's their head Frazier is a is a coach,
is a mentor for head coaches. That's what his role
is in the NFL now, No disrespect to him. His
role now is a mentor to new head coaches. So
(17:37):
as the Cowboys may have been exploring a new head
coach and might be exploring a new first time head coach,
I think they wanted to have an idea of what
Fraser has done in his previous stints. To mentor head
coaches and help with their transition, as he was just
in Seattle with McDonald to help with his transition. I
think that sala is a is a coordinator thing. I
(17:57):
think that Kellen Moore is a conversation and mainly to
try to see if you can steal him back and
get him back over here to be a coordinated I
don't see him as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I don't think so. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Why would you, he would.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Not exactly, So I think that's what that is. I
think everybody that they have talked to has been a coordinator.
I don't think that they have yet talked to a
head coach candidate unless they've talked to that candidate in
previous stents. And I don't know if I've said John Gruden,
(18:29):
what's that?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
It's a W? Who's that? Maybe this.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
J W?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't that's what you're referencing.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
No, that's not what I'm referencing. I'm referencing Jason, I don't.
I mean we said this on special edition, but I
believe that one of my picks would be John Gruden,
but he hasn't came up in regards to interviews. I
think he's living it up on first right. I think
(18:59):
Ron Rivera is still in play. I know some people
aren't necessarily excited about that, but he's a good dude.
He's every when he's had a good a good quarterback,
they won. He knows a defense. He has a culture there.
Either it hasn't came up, but the interviewed here last year. Yeah,
So that's somebody that they don't necessarily coordinator as a coordinator,
that's somebody that they don't necessarily need to talk to
a bunch, right, because they already have an understanding of him,
(19:21):
and I know they have a relationship with him. So
you're you're left with with those names that have done
it before and that you have a body of work.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I don't know what directions there. Nobody knows what direction
they're going, but I don't. But from the names that
we know have been talked to, these are coordinators. These
are not headcutters.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I do.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I do agree with that, and I do think that
I think with the exception of Moore, You're right, I
think I think I think they're probably touching base with
him to see what you know, have you grown maybe
have you developed in this regard, but you still don't
I don't think, no disrespect to Kellen Moore, but what's
his identity?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
No, eater of men like that, That's one of the
that's the real.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Questions for me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
But I don't even I don't even know his offense
has the identity.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, so I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Just being straight off.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
He's leaning on the right now arguably one of the
NFL's MVPs and that for sure.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
But go back to the Chargers, But what's what's been
the identity? What do you know that you're going to
get out of killing More?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
You don't know anything, right, So when you talk about
some of these other coaches.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
You know, you know Ron Rivera, right, regardless of where
you may lay with that, you know what you're going
to get out of him. You know what you're going
to get out of John Gruen, you know what you're
going to get out of some of the candidates that
are now being taken off the board.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
You don't know in regards to killing More.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
So that's why I think no necessarily on that, because, yeah,
one of the boxes that has to be checked is
are you a leader of man?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Are you creative?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Are you can you handle the media, what's your are
you forward facing?
Speaker 12 (20:44):
Like?
Speaker 7 (20:44):
All these things have to be checked, and I don't
think that he possesses the main one. He doesn't have
a character.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
What is his character?
Speaker 9 (20:50):
And also to your point, you don't know exactly what
his scheme is anymore, right because when he was with Dallas,
he was adverse to running the ball hill He got
him let podium a couple of times and kind of
joked about like, hey, if it were up to me,
I throw sixty times a game. Right, you go to
Philadelphia and they won't let you do it because they
got Saquon Barkley and just a monstrous offensive line. So
now it's his identity schematically in Philadelphia is Saquon.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And the best offensive line.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's fair.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
So if you were to bring him, you don't want
to throw sixty times to that quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
If you were to bring him back as a head coach,
you don't have a Saquon. And we don't know how
things shake out in the draft who they will or
will not select at the position. You don't know if
equal Dowd who's going to return, because he might be
on his Tony Pollard stuff right now, which is hey,
this is that possibly the highest I'll be at tering
free agencies value, right, So you just don't know, so
to your point, it's a lot of question marks there.
(21:39):
So going back to Colle's question, who's the frontrunner right now,
there is no front runner because they don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They're still soaring through some things.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And because of that, I don't think there's a position
open or made or a decision made this week.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I just really don't think it's happening this week. And
does that.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's gonna be just like regular free agency. You're gonna
be left with the scribe to.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Be left with whatever you got at the end of it.
Did we talk about this four weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
We talked about four weeks ago. But this is where
we are, and this is where the situation is. Everybody
that's throwing names out there, whether it's a content creator,
whether it's a reporter, whether it's a website, all of that,
take it with a grain of salt, because not all
of it is true.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Right now that's being thrown out there in the building.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
The truth is they're not really getting anywhere yet, and
this one's not close to being done yet. And as
I say that, as the only truth in this whole scenario.
I'm sure there will be a higher tomorrow because that's
how the thing works. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take
our second break. When we come back, I'm gonna build
the ideal candidate. We're gonna take the best elements from
some of the NFL's past and present head coaches and
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your player and coach would end up being when we
talk about it.
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Speaker 4 (25:08):
I'm Kyle Yellman's all right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Or with yours yours e?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
That's what we all are today?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Is it just e?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Or because we're tired of this coaching search. All right,
build a ideal candidate. We're going to build a bear
type things today. We're taking bits and pieces. Yeah, those
things are pricey bits and pieces of the elements of
your Yeah, I know your ideal candidate, either from past
or present coaches in the NFL, and then I want
(25:39):
you to explain who do you feel like best represents.
Here's the thing, we can't use the same coaches. We're
gonna do this draft style.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
So we're gonna start things off by play calling. Okay,
play calling, and we're gonna let Josh defense. Josh is
gonna go first. We're gonna go offense defense first. This
is your ideal head coach, so you build it however
you want it, offense or defense.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Play calling is the first category.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
What if I don't want then you can say that.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Then pick a coach that doesn't call plays. Okay, so
you can do it that way.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
So we're doing places.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Have fun with it.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Man, we're trying try not to understand.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
For example, for example, if let's say they hire Pete Carroll,
is he gonna call plays on either offense or defense.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
So there's your opportunity.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
So we're picking just a head coach right now, just
just your head coach or your head coach.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
What do you want him to imbody from other coaches
out there.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
We're building the perfect coach at top the bottom.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Hey, coach, just a head coach, Just a head coach.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Okay, you're not up yet. Josh is going first.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Play calling wise, let me go with Sean McVay. Okay,
Sean McVay. I think everything that goes into the way
that he calls the game. He actually called a really
great game, uh this past weekend, and to me, they
were the They look like the better team. They really did,
and it was if they just hold on fortunate fumbles
(27:03):
that cost them the game. But I think he's made
Matt Stafford better. I think he's the whole team is
better because of Sean McVay. Give me Sean McVay. When
it comes to play calling, okay, Patrick.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Play calling, give me Ben Johnson's play call.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I want that creativity.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I want that forward thinking, hit coach that's not not
play caller who's not you know, reactive to what the
trends are in the league. You're setting the trends, you're
pulling out back the tricks you're you're scouting collegiate playbooks
and film and looking for new creative ideas that give
me a Ben Johnson for a PlayGame.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Okay, remember this doesn't have to be a candidate and
an opening that's out there.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
It'll be all time.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm gonna get available.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, I'm just making sure I'm going with Kyle Shanahan's
play calling San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach. What
he's done has been enough to sprout the tree of
excellents in terms of offensive play callers across the NFL.
I'm giving, uh, Kyle Shanahan is my play caller up top.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Okay, what do you think I'm going with John Rex Ryan, Oh,
defensive guy. Okay, his play calling exit my time in
the league and what I've seen from him versus some
of the other coordinators. I face this dude, he's like that.
He's like the Ben Johnson of defense. He just creates
whatever the heck he wants to and it's so unorthodox
and innovative, as innovative as.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
All get out.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
It's like he's sitting in bed just drawing it up
on his phone and you know, oh yeah, that's my pig.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Okay, and now you get to go first on the
second category, which is leadership. Who would you want to
embody the leadership of that head coach?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Leadership here with a star, right, I gotta go John Gruden? Okay,
John Gruden as a leader.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
You think you could handle the circus?
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yes, he is the circus.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
He brings it to town and it would be entertaining
embody he embodies circus.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
That would be like that, you know how, like there's
a traveling circus model and then you turn around and
that one's just permanent.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You just build it, you be kind.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I mean his nickname is Chucky. Yeah, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Like, yeah, come on, he's an icon.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
You guys understand this all right?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
As far as leadership goes one of the best coaches
to ever handle the weight of the star that we've
talked about and we're talking about all times, pastor President
Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson Man. I think at this point
Jerry and Jimmy obviously they've made up. If you get
a coach in here like Jimmy that is able to
(29:35):
not only lead the team but lead the fan base,
you know, people can galvanize behind a leader like that
and believe in him no matter what, no matter if
you start off with a you know, basically no win season, right,
I think you would find people that are you just
need a figure like that now. I think this fan
(29:55):
base really needs that.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
We need a.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Leader like that. We need a leader like Dan Campbell,
someone that you are able to really identify with and
galvanized behind. I changed to change the culture. You're desperately
in need of that.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
He's been two for two on mine better. I'm going
cool Hand Luke here, so I'll see your Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'll see you, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I think we all see you, jim n.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Okay, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with cool
Hand Luke, the one that started it all. I'm going
I need the leadership of Tom Landry.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's what I need.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Tom Landry, who has shown you talk about Jimmy Johnson
and rightfully so, being able to come into an organization
after several seasons of lost and then he had the
first He had a very bad first season with the Cowboys,
immediately turned that around. Tom Landry quite literally helped establish
this organization as an expansion franchise took it from dirt
ground zero. This is the pre Jerry Jones era. Moved
(31:14):
it all the way to Super Bowl status Hall of Famers,
you know, Roger star Back and the l like on
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And I know we're in the social.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
Media era nowadays, so when you talk about circus, you're
thinking of it and through the scope of it's because
you know everything about the inner working So you could say, oh, well,
see that's crazy and that's weird. Okay, Well, let me
tell you back in the sixties and the seventies and
even the eighties, there was so much that you didn't
know about because there was no social media. It was
just as much as a circus as far as keeping
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things on the rails in this organization. And Tom Landry
was right there keeping things on the rails and keeping
the Cowboys winning and keeping them relevant, keeping them in
NFC championships, in Super Bowls. So and I also love
the cool hand Luke aspect of it. Of yes, I
love Jimmy's I love Chucky's fire, John Gruden, I'd love
those types of coaches, Dan Campbell. But there's also a
(32:06):
lot to be said for one who no matter what's
thrown at them. It's just the fidor and he's just
cool because you just know that he's going to get
it handled, whatever it might be. And now I think
that invokes a bit of confidence when you tie it
to his experience and knowing what he can do. So
leadership wise, give me Tom Landry.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
In a different sense, but a similar reasoning. I'm gonna
go with Andy Reid from my leader life that kind
of a similar thing. Nothing shakes him, and the play
calling is a side product of it. He's a great
play caller, yes.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We know that.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But the leadership that he's shown to handle the circus
that is the Kansas City Chiefs you're talking about Travis
Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill in the early
earlier years to win Super Bowls every single year and
to get back to a championship every single year when
the circus around it isn't even involved with football the time.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
A lot of the time, it's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
A lot of the time, it's it's Caitlin Clark at
the game this past weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
A lot of times.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It's it's the Mahomes family outside of Patrick that are
doing weird stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
On TikTok every day.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yet the focus has always been on two things, football
and cheeseburgers after a win.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
And that's inficiating.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, and somehow he's got dark magics, the official Chi contendis,
so there's that level to it as well. All right, experience, Patrick,
I'll let you go first.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
All this experience, you know, experience, I keep circling. There's
so many to go around, but I'm going to land
on Bill par Sales.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Oh damn, good choice.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
I'm letting on Bill par Sales because that experience. I mean,
it's self explanatory. I don't have to get all the
you know what he's capable of, and you know the egos.
He's been able to rally together, glue together and get
success and get a Super Bowl championship.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So yeah, I'm going par Sales.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I'm gonna go with another Bill, mister Belichick. Just take
the Super Bowls playing and simple. He's won how many
of them now?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
There?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, that's pretty good. So I'm gonna just take that one.
That's an easy win. Experience experience, mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Let's go Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I thought you were going to say, Tom, No, it
was gonna be no, it would have been Bill Bellich Belichick.
I'll go with Pete Carroll. Pete Carol's seen it all.
He came from the Parsils tree as well. He's been
through those ranks. He understands.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
He's seen it at the college level. He's seen it.
He's been a champion many many times. He's been multiple
Super Bowls. He's won it, he's lost it. Right, he
has the experience of feeling both a heartache in the
in the yeah, of course, the height of it. So
I think I will go with coach Carrol.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Okay, Belichick was my answer for a long time. When
I kind of interpreted this, I was sort of thinking of, like, Okay, well,
we saw Bill Belichick towards the end of his career
in the NFL, right, and we saw how that was
going and kind of an unwillingness to innovate when the
game is very much changed and he didn't have the
Hall of Fame quarterback that obviously one of all the
(35:05):
Super Bowls. I think now of a guy like John Harball.
I think about what he's done with different quarterbacks. I
think of what he's done he's won a super Bowl,
but I also think he has his best years ahead
of him. I don't think he's done by a long shot.
I think he's working with a team that is consistently
(35:26):
in the picture. But unlike a Mike Tomlin, this guy
still performs in the playoffs. He really does. So yeah,
give me John Harball, just catch the sreaking ball. Mark Andrews.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, that was a tough one from Mark. All right.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Uh so yours, Joshes was Sean McVay, Jimmy Johnson, John Harrible.
That's pretty good trio that Patrick has, Ben Johnson, Tom Landry,
Bill Parcells.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You got the New age and the old age is
what you got out there.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Isaiah's was Rex Ryan, John Gruden, and Pete Carroll.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
Guy NFL Network. NFL Network team.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Right, that's a competitive, energy, bus driven team, right there, Bb.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Those practices are gonna go. And then mine is Kyle Shanahan,
Andy Reid and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's a lot of hill.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
A lot of my practices are turned. We got a DJ.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Everything ours is you better expect to get it done
and know the playbook and we'll make it happen for you.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
We got DJ's and feet massages.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Uh, mine feels like an overpower like Avengers.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Superhero Sehn McVay, Jimmy Johnson and john you get all
of it together, all right. That's gonna do it for
us here Talking Cowboys. Hope you had some fun with
us this week. We'll see if we have any answers
for you next week. Going into this, Uh I help
so matchup head coaching decision could be Jimmy, it could
(36:54):
be Johnson, who knows whenever.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Next week for.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
The same different Josh Rodery is stand back for Chris
Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long
from Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
We'll see you next week. This has been a production
of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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