Living Single (1993) - Office Gossip, Checkbooks & a Brooklyn Brownstone - That Aged Well

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not long ago, I was in the Times Square area.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I had to kill some time before a show, and
so I found a coffee shop, like a like a
cute independent coffee shop. Walked in love no so well,
the day was on the warmer side, just to be clear.
And I was the only person in there, and I
asked the lovely barista who was there? Who was I'm
gonna guess twenty years old?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, got it like.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Genuinely noted, and uh, like for a latte? And she's
like hot or cold? And I said hot and she
looked at me like h And I was like, oh, okay,
is that a problem? Like is it too hot back
there for you to make a hot latte? Do you
want to make a cold one instead? Like I don't,
I'll change my order If it is.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You you more comfortable, please take my money and don't
be mad at me.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And then I realized. I was like, no, you're gonna
have to make it hot anyway. That's how ice coffee is.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Made, unless you have cold broke.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You have to you have to ic it first. You
have to hot at first before you ce it. Anyway,
that's not the end. She's like She's like, no, no, no, no, no,
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's just I wasn't expecting you to say hot coffee.
And I was like, okay, but it's a coffee shop,
like fifty to fifty chance. So now I'm engaging. Now
I'm like, what your best friend? To be clear, I'm
drinking it in here. I'm not going to take it
out onto the street where it's hot. And she's like,
I know, but it's just you know, I'm just so
gen z. I just only drink iced coffee and I

(01:18):
can't even think of I can't. I don't even know
anyone who drinks hot coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I was on Tiffany's side until she said that, and.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Honestly, I was like, I didn't even know that was
a thing. I've never felt so across a generational divide,
a chasm. Yeah, like sometimes I feel that way, but
I've earned it, Like I don't I don't know this lang,
I don't know the new words.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I to this day, I don't know what cap means
when people say it and then you know what, it's
too late.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I don't want to know what's the word you said? Cap.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Ship has sailed cap like.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Captain America like no cap Oh okay, okay, well okay,
I don't know either. Clearly has sailed off both of us.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
We are turning into that meme of Matt Damon growing
old right before your eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Hey, Paul, and this is that aged well, yesterday's pop
culture Today Television September March is on.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes we are We're back to school season and all
the news shows are out.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, we are celebrating what used to be the fall
TV season that has since been murdered by the streamers.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Remember the TV Guide that September It was like the
September issue of Vogue, but tv Guide.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I remember the fall TV preview issue of Entertainment Week.
Oh my god, Yes, what a delicious day that was.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
That was my favorite. That was my second favorite day
of the year. My favorite day of the year was
my birthday. Was yeah, yep, your birthday because I knew you. No,
it was the the Oscar.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Like the yeah, like the Oscar predictions.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Movie previews issue of Entertainment Weekly. Oh my god, Entertainment
Weekly raised me, y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It did it really did? Yeah, Erica, we do have
five star Apple podcast reviews to get you before we
get to our television show today. Do you want to
read the first one? Sure?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Our first review comes from Mike Anthony zero zero, Okay,
stay right, recommend. I'm sad, I'm late to the party,
but have been binge listening for the past month getting
caught up. Come for the hilariously good reviews, and stay
for Erica and Paul rapping, rapping teen Witch.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Lin't remember is take that? Take that? Oh my god,
that like my soul died? Wait? Didn't we wrap? And
we did? We wrap? In what's the What's the Shane
Black movie? With the kids fighting the monster squad monsters?
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm remembering something I might have shame spiraled so hard
that I suck it out if we did. Mike Anthony
finishes ten out of ten no notes.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, now I want to know if we if we
wrap during months, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thing I remember is Dracula throwing some dynamite into the treehouse.
Excellent movie. We should watch that again. And I like
Teenwitch too, Both both excellent movies, possibly with rapping, definitely
rapping in that one. I remember that One's that one's
for sure. Deeply ashamed as you should be. Yeah. We

(04:22):
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they write my favorite dot dot dot. This is the
first review I've ever written. These guys are the thing. Okay.
I listened to every episode, including for movies I've never seen,
because I just need to spend time with Paul and Erica.
They are my besties. Now. I love that. Fuck you,

(04:45):
old besties.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I love a parasocial relationship.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
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back and listen to the Wizard of Oz episode. I
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my own children when they are not meeting expectations around
here while they stare at me in confusion. Now see here,
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Speaker 1 (05:09):
Dad. Maybe you should take a walk around the block.

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Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh? Was that broke Back Mountain?

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Speaker 2 (05:53):
Blues excellent, excellent and w ten sixteen Mike Underscore Anthony
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off for you. Erica, what is the television show that
we are talking about today?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Today's sitcom is we are Living.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Single in a nineties kind of world. I'm goad got
my girls Living Single for the for anyone who's confused,
didn't get it. Living Single was requested by Josephine, Christina, Ariel, Andy, Mike,
and Jan Living Single aired on Fox for five seasons

(06:39):
from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety eight. It was
created by vett Lee Bowser and stars Queen Latifah, Kim Coles,
Erica Alexander Kim, Fields, TC Carson, and John Henton. We
will specifically be discussing season one episode one Judging by
the Cover, written by vett Lee Bowser and directed by
Tony Singletary, and season one episode in the Black is Beautiful,

(07:02):
written by Bowser, David Stephen Cohen, and Roger S. H. Shulman,
and again directed by Singletary. It's a lot of information
in that one.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, they got a writer's room by the time pilot.
After the pilot took off, they're like, we're gonna get
a writer.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, we're going with more people in here. A.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Vettley Bowser has said that her goal with Living Single
was to put positive, non stereotypical black characters on television.
It ranked among the top five programs for black viewers
in all five of its seasons.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Excellent, and I can see that in the portrayals of
the characters. The character is very successful. They're upwardly mobile,
makes sense, They're funny. They're very funny. Living Single is
a sitcom about six friends in New York and debuted
one year before Friends. Bowser has stated disappointment that Warner
Brothers did not promote their show in the same way
that it did the other one.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know what's funny is I forgot that Living Single
aired on Fox.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
If you'd asked me what this is terrible. But if
you'd asked me, like what channel it aired on, I
would have guessed, like WB or CW or whatever it
was at that time. I would have thought a second
tier channel because the while I was aware of Living Single, Yeah, like,
I definitely did not get the like push in like

(08:16):
the mainstream market. Oh definitely, a regular like another Fox
show might have gotten. Ye yeah right, Like like like
Married with Children on Box would have gotten way more
commercials and way more like promotional push the Living Single.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, and I didn't. I didn't get to watch as
much TV as you did when I was a kid.
I don't feel like I was even super aware that
the show existed. Ah, Like I probably beckoned the nineties.
I would have been like, oh, yeah, I've heard of it,
but like I was, it was not being fed to
me in any Wayt's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Living Single Season one, which is what we're Covering has
a fifty four percent critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and
a seventy one percent audience score.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Too low, too low. Fifty four is way too low,
way too long. It's a funny show, yes, funny.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Look is it perfect? No? Is it like broad the
way sitcoms from the nineties are from the early nineties, specifically, yeah, like, yeah,
the humor is very nineteen ninety three, But.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't even think. I don't even think the humor
is I think the style of humor is yes, but
like I think the jokes are solid jokes, but.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
The writing is solid. Writing is solid, The performances are solid.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Three of the performances are like excellent. Uh uh oh.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm curious who you're leaving out. I know one of
the people you're leaving out, but I'm curious who.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't think any of the other performances are bad.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
To be I know two of the people you're leaving out.
I'm curious who that third I think I know who
that third person is. And that's I feel the same way,
although I feel kind of bad saying it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, like I don't, I don't think any performances are bad.
To be clear, I just think there's three like excellent,
top tier A plus. Did we think two D was
going to be better? Yeah we did, Yeah we did.
And Tuty is fine, but she's not as good at
this as I wanted her to be.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm not gonna lie. She's good.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
She's very good.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And look like, here's the thing, Queen Latifah, she's not
an actor. Yeah, this is early early, early in her career.
She remember, she came up as a singer, as a like,
as a musician. This is not her wheelhouse. The others
are all. I don't know about the two men actually
because I didn't know their work really before this at all.
But the other three women I've seen all their work.

(10:20):
I'd seen their work before this. There are sitcom stalwarts.
They are very like like genuinely. Kim Fields was on
Facts of Life, which was like a huge hit. Erica
Alexander was on The Cosby Show for God's sake, and
like Kim Coles, who is low key my favorite person
on the show, not even low key. Hi, I'm going
to sing the high praises of kitt Calls today. I

(10:42):
knew her from in Living Color, so like, not only
not only that, but like I knew her from immediately
from that moment she was in that moment on my
mind when we were watching the show in the nineties,
and so I, yeah, I did not expect Queen Latifah
to be as on top of like her sitcom game
as the others were, because they had just had so
much more experience. But I did expect kim Field to

(11:05):
be better. I'm not gonna lie, and I was a
little like, girl, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So when did you first see the show?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I watched it in real time. I think I watched
the first season for at least when it aired. I'm
not sure how far I got into it. This was
before I started like watching TV like it was my
job that came later in life. Like the first TV
show I think I've said this on the podcast before.
The first TV show that I've ever finished in my
life was My so called Life, Like. I watched every

(11:34):
single episode of my so called life, And between that
and the next TV show that I watched every episode
of We're talking ten years like, I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I didn't do that at that time. You're forgetting Buffy.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I guess I did watch all of Buffy it aired.
I'm trying to think did I actually do that or
did I rewatch some of it all? I think towards
the end I wasn't watching it because I was in college.
I just wasn't paying attention as much. Like genuinely, the
amount of TV shows in my twenties that I watched
in my teens and twenties that I watched from beginning
to end are maybe two. Okay, and that's it, and

(12:06):
so like, it's not a slam on Living Single. I
just I didn't watch Friends all the way. I didn't
watch Seinfeld all the way like I would dip.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
In and out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, So I think I watched probably most of the
first season at least of Living Single, and then maybe
some of the second season. Okay, how about you, when
did you first see Living Single?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I if you had asked me this last week, I
would have said I had never seen it before. But
then I started watching it and I was like, I've
definitely seen this before. And my husband reminded me that.
When it came on Hulu, we were like, oh, we
should watch the show. It's supposed to be really good.
And we started watching it and we both liked it,
and then we fell off of it. For some reason,
something else came along and we got distracted. We forgot

(12:43):
so I started watching it again. I was pretty cold
because I really didn't remember it. It's just like, oh,
this is like I definitely have seen these jokes before
or whatever. So I started watching it and Erica I
loved it, Like I don't I think you know how
this is gonna be very depressing for a second. I
don't mean it to be, but you know, like after
nine to eleven, Friends got a bump in viewership because
it was like people wanted to go back to like

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what was what felt good? Yeah, like that kind of thing.
This felt like watching a show that I had seen before,
even though I hadn't. So all the jokes were new
because like all of the rhythms are so nineties, like
you were saying, and like the broadness of it, like
Erica Alexander is pulling broad facial expressions.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh my gosh, it's so funny because she like the
audience loves her. The studio audience every time she makes
any joke goes haywire for her, and like the I
don't know at least where I for me watching it
at home, I was like, well, that was funny.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But wasn't that funny? I think in the room she
was killing yeah, because she must be mugging directly to
the audience and it reads broad. So to our eyes
today it might read as broad, But for like whatever
nineties child lived inside me when I started watching the show,
I was like yes, and I'm now like halfway through
the first season. It's now like what Vena and I

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watched before we go to bed, just watching living scene.
There's an episode that we are not covering. I think
it's the fourth episode. It's whichever one where Max's ex
brings his new fiance to dinner and she has to
pretend that Kyle is her boyfriend. That is so funny,
like like like Golden Girls level funny like that, like

(14:17):
like so funny. I really like this show.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I'm glad you mentioned Golden Girls because you were talking
about the familiarity of this show, and part of it,
too is and we see it over and over and
over again. And I'm not sure why it's this, but
like four women like you think Sex in the City,
you think this this show, Golden Girls like it, girls
like it comes up over and over and over again
in pop culture, like it's the four women as like

(14:44):
a unit, as like and like. Each is a different
trope just fucking works every time. It works. And again, like,
you can't think of two shows that are more different
than like girls like and and this show. But it's
the same tropes if you're looking at it, it's like
I was like, Okay, so there's the brainy one. There,
there's the slutty one.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, Erica, there's no tagline for living single as it
is a television show, but I think we all know
that it's in the nineties kind of world. I'm glad
I got my girls. I think we can all agree
on that.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think we can all agree on that. Yeah, I
think so Okay, this serotonin hit that I got this
week from watching the opening credits to the show again
with the dance with the full out do the Right
Thing dance number like next to the Bridge, I'm like this,
Like I remember watching this in the nineties that that
opening credits like made me so happy.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah every time. Yeah, do you want? We have two episodes?
Say do you want to read the first iTunes synopsis? Sure?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Episode one, the pilot regime thinks she's found the perfect man,
but Khadija and Sinclair. No, he's married. The cast sings
my girl. That's literally the second it's two lines. It's
one that like the married line, and then second line
the cast sings my girl. You would think that's a
major plot point.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It is what happens over the closing credit.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Correct. Yep. We're also doing episode five. So the reason
we're doing one in five is because when we were
originally going to do the first two or three episodes,
and then I watched them and I was like, well,
the first three are all they're all specifically about men.
They're about man problems, dating problems, which is fine. It's
called living single. Clearly this is it's about relationships on
a certain level. But we want to do one where
the main a plot was not about like some dating

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some dude. So that's why we skipped episode five. And
the synopsis for this is Kadija borrows money from Max
to pay off a debt for her magazine. But Kadija
feels so guilty about the loan that she makes everyone miserable.
Perfect perfect yep. Actual synopsis for this Darthy, Rose, Blanche,
and Sophia live across the hall from Joey and Chandler.

(16:48):
That's for all you white folk out there that don't
know what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, they are Joey and Chandler.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
They are definitely Joey and Chandler. Really, to be clear,
they predated Joey and Chandler, and we know that.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Actually, I think they're Ross and Joey. M I don't
think he's a Chandler. He's way too confident.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But yes, but but but he has a job with numbers.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
He does have a job with Yeah, but Ross works
at the museum.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And Ross isn't confident. He's he's Chandler with confidence.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
We need to think of another part. He's it's like
non gay Stanford and Joey. If we're gonna go with
the other the other show with the sidekicks, it's it's,
oh god, this is such a deep cut. It's Ray
from Girls.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh wow, Joey, that's a very deep cut.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
It is definitely Joey.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
He nailed it with joe Joe. It's but Joey's like
Ladies madness, gits gets transferred over to Chandler or whoever
that is. It's Ray, Yeah, right, got it, got it
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Speaker 1 (18:15):
And we're back.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We open the pilot of Living Single in the offices
of Flavor Magazine, an independent publication that is the passion
project of Kadija James, played by the one the Only,
the Oscar nominated Queen Latifa. How nineties is it that
an independent magazine is able to sustain itself with offices
in New York City and a staff of at least

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twelve to fifteen people.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I count, yeah, it's it's like twenty people. The episode
that we're gonna talk about, the second one, we're going
to talk about how how how how did she start
this magazine?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Where the venture capital is I am very.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Curious as to what the business plan like what how?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
But we'll get into it.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
This show exists in a New York city that is
even less familiar to me than the one on Friends.
I was sure this was not New York because the
house they live in is a big like it looks
like a Victorian mansion that they converted into like apartments or.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Something, and I'm like, where where is that? They also
do a huge set change in between the the pilot
and the second episode. They're supposed to be living in
a Brooklyn brownstone, to be clear, And in the first
episode you just opened the front door out onto like
like a like a street.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It's a Victorian mansion that they're living in. And then
and also in these offices are like like absolutely beautiful,
like these are these are some This is a high
end realimmate that this magazine, Independent magazine.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Is in all right, So Kadij's cousin, her roommate, and
the secretary of Flavor Magazine is the wide eyed Sinclair
James played by Kim Coles.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
She's the dummy of the group. Yeah, you have your like,
your your main character, energy character, your dummy for lack
of for lack of a better term. We're gonna meet
our Samantha and our Miranda later, but this is our
this is our Charlotte r. Rose.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, Shanna exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Kim Cole's unimpeachable. Yeah, she's my VIP of oka show.
She is so fucking good. She's funny everything, because this
character's so easy to mess up, to make like so wildly,
like so wildly over the top that it's like like
roll your eyes at her, stupid, and she just nails
it with like precision.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah. They are quickly joined by their third roommate, Regene
Hunter played by Kim Fields, who is a vain, horny
buyer at a local boutique. There's the sweet one, the
smart one, and then there's the hope, and then there's
the hope. Right, Regine is there with some good news.
Something long and black is at the curb and the
women go and they look and it's a stretch limo.
And in that stretch Limo is Regine's new boyfriend, Brad.

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Regiene thinks Brad could be the one. She says he's fine, educated, wealthy,
and has a butt that's dented on the sides with
the promise of power. Regene is excited about this one,
and Kadija Erica Kadija is less Convinced about Regene's excitement
for Brad, she tells Regene that to have a lasting relationship,
she needs to look beyond a man's wallet. Okay, look,

(21:12):
I've been the drothy, I've been the Kadija. I've been
the I've been the Carrie. I guess it breaks down
with Carrie and Hannah.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It really breaks down with Hannah and yeah, and Carrie's
also not great. Let's just stick to Dorothy, Dorothy and Kadija.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I've been to Darthy the Kadija. It's not fun being
the wet blanket in the group. I have sympathy, but
also don't be the wet blanket in the group.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
How old are they all supposed to be thirty?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think they're in their twenties, in their twenties.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, it's styling in the early nineties. It's impossible, very unforgiving.
It's so hard to tell how old someone is because
they look crazy. They're all wearing the boxiest suits.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Also, they'll change kim Field's hair a lot in the show,
so sometimes she'll have the wig on. Now she has.
It's nice, but I would say kind of aging. It's
kind of like a yeah, up, up to you.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
She has like a mushroom cut later that is, yes, unforgiving.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
But then a couple episodes later they put her in
braids and I'm not exaggerating. It takes twenty years off
for age, not anything to do with her face. She
looks lovely the whole time. She still does. Have you
seen what she looks like right now? You could put
Queen Latifa in the show today and you'd be like
five years later.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, maybe, but Kim Fields looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah. So Regine is unconcerned with Kadija's warning. She heads
out and she says, I'm gonna have Brad's limo past
the boutique where I work to rub my coworkers' faces
in my new relationship. Right, She's very excited. She also says,
we ate caviar from my cleavage and drank champagne from
my shoe. Recently we had a rush of stories with
people drinking out of shoes. Shag did it? Now? This

(22:42):
is this a thing? Was this the thing in the
eighties and nineties? This was a thing? Well, this is
an old, old thing.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, You're drinking champagne from someone's shoe, isn't it? Yeah?
Hard pass hard, pass.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
It feels very French. I'm gonna say it. I'm just
gonna say, you know what, We mock the French a
lot on the show, and they deserve it, and they
fucking deserve it. Get your act together, France. The phone rings,
it's a business after all.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Kadisha takes the call.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
She finds out that Maya Angelou did I did I
expect Maya Angelou to show up on the show after
they name dropped her.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, I did you did?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
This is not check off Maya Angelou.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Okay, this is She sadly she will not appear on this.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Show because honestly, there was a moment in time where
my Angelou just kind of did shit.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, why would she?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
She just kind of showed up at things, and like,
you never know, who knows who this one could have
called in a favor, and my Angelou could have been, like,
I would be right there. I'm thirteen minutes as the
crow flies. It turns out Maya Angelou was supposed to
be on the cover of the magazine, but she is
canceling the spread because she never received the interview questions

(23:51):
in advance. My Angelou's no, dummy, No, she's not she's
not coming in for your gotcha questions.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Also, the level of cover star this magazine is courting
is insane.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah yeah, Like later on they're gonna, yeah, she's gonna
reach out to like Bill Cosby. Shed they reach out
to Bill Cosby, who again fall from grace admittedly.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But in the nineties he was the top of his game.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That was a thing, that was a whole last thing. Yeah.
Turns out it was poor, sweet, simple Sinclair who was
supposed to send the questions to Maya Angelou and did
not do it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I am shocked that you are still able to say
that Sinclair was your favorite. Because what Sinclair is doing
while Kadija finds this out, is that she's flossing at
her desk.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
She's flossing.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah yeah, I feel like that would be like anathematio
flossing her teeth. By the way Na Dance, not the
current day danser.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Kim Coles can make anything funny. Okay, she can make
fun She can make looking vacantly into the distance while
flossing fucking funny. Sinclair apologizes for her oversight and promises
to get another person for the cover. I'll find someone
for you, k I was like, no, no, no, don't bother.
I'm going to do this one myself because you cannot
be trusted. It's like, who am I going to get

(25:05):
with no notice? Sinclair's like Mike Tyson, I know where
he is and he's going to be there for a while.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
VeryE nineteen ninety three joke, but I got it excellent.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
There were a couple of jokes that swung straight past
my face.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yep, I was. I was going to say later, we
have to play a game of honest game of what
pop culture references did the two white hosts of this
show have to look up? I had one.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I have the same game written down because I'm like,
is this something I didn't understand because it's nineteen ninety
three and I was twelve years old and I wouldn't
have known the story at the time, and I or am.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I too white?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yes, exactly understand this reference. I suspect it's the latter.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, in quite a fin I actually I technically had
one and a half because there was one that I
was like, I feel like I'm missing something. So even
though I get I think I get it, but I
want to double check. Yeah, And there was one that
I legitimately was like I do not know.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
That there's yeah, okay, goodness, I run the same page.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Ry on the same page.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
For those of you who out remember Mike Tyson was
in prison for sexual assault.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah and yeah, so that was what he was.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's that's that joke.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, we cut to the ladies Brooklyn brown Stone slash
Victorian Mansions, Sex Victoria.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
But also like a bucolic tree lined street because all
the everything we see out the window, which is such
an easy thing because it's a backdrop. It's not a
real house, right, so you could just paint anything, you
could do sesame street and pretend it's another building across
the street, and it's fine, But that's not what this
show decided to do. The show decided to paint it
like they're living in a park somewhere.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
There's also like I think they're meant to be on
the ground floor, because you constantly see them walking in
from like the door of the building into the hallway
in the later episodes. In this episode, again the door
just opens out onto the street like they live on
main Street in Anytown, USA. But later there so they
live on the ground floor. But then also repeatedly they
they will kind of like look down out of the
window as if as if they're on like the seventh.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Floor, well, because they have two stories, because.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, but the living room's on the first floor.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
And they're looking down.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah yeah, I don't know. To be clear, none of
this matters. Who cares.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's but we're New Yorkers and we're going to complain
about the real estate being inaccurate.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, okay. So Sinclair is there in deep conversation with
their neighbor, the building's charming handyman, Overton Wakefield Jones, played
by John Henton, And I want to say right now,
I will die for Overton Wakefield Jones. I love this guy.
I love him. I love this performance. This performance could
be so repetitive and it's not. It's funny every like

(27:37):
because Overton is the simple one, right, Like he has
homespun wisdom, He's the handyman, and it's this man is
just a charm monster and everything that comes out of
his mouth I love.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
And like you could tell from the beginning they're going
to put him and Kim Coles together.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, and I'm rooting for them hard after fifteen seconds
and it is.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Like the anticipation. I'm like, oh my god, when these
two stars having a scene where they don't understand, like
here's a misunderstanding and one of them is do like
going in one door and the other one's coming out
the already so excited for future scenes between those two
because these are the like, I think we will just
say these are the.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Two VIPs of the show, these two And for me.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Eric Alexander's wonderful. Yeah, true, Erica Alexander is truly wonderful.
But for me, these two are like they're a secret
sauce because they're finding exactly what you said. They're both
finding very new, nuanced ways of playing the same thing over.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And over again, and they're all they're both playing the
same thing. They're both they're both the dumb dumbs. Yeah,
like that's the Joe du the sweet dum dumbs.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So Overton has a crush on Sinclair. It's very clear
he's explaining to her how to fix a vacuum. They are,
as we said, adorable, and Sinclairs like, why don't they
get us some beverages? Which is again funny somehow, like
the way she says it, it's funny. The doorbell rings
Overton goes over he lets in his roommate, the suave
stockbroker Kyle Barker played by T. C. Carson.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay again, Look, I don't mean to be a bitch,
but I'm gonna be a bitch. Why is a stockbroker
living with a hand in New York City? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I'm telling you this is a Joey Chandler situation where
they are the platonic love story between these two is
very real and very deep.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You're right, because Joey and Chandler doesn't make any sense either,
now that I think about it. Yeah, like this makes
let because at least Joey. No, you're right, No, none
of that made sense. None of that made sense.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'm sure I'm a bias here because I was willing
to let friends. But as soon as they were like
he's a stockbroker, I'm like, why does he have a roommate?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Maybe he's a junior because I really think they're supposed
to be like twenty seven. I haven't gotten to any
birthdays yet in the show that I'm watching. Think so
presumptively we'll get more of a feel for and also,
like I would say Kadid is meant to be twenty seven,
and maybe Sinclair's meant to be like twenty four, Like
there's an age difference there. So anyway, Kyle is frustrated
that Overton is spending time wooing Sinclair in his very

(29:51):
handyman forward way instead of just getting to the point
and asking her out. So Kyle is like the ladies man.
He's trying to get Overton just cut to the chase,
shitting it off the pot, ask this girl out.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
You like her? Yeah, TC Carson is so handsome and
he's got a voice, such a voice. I looked him
up actually because I was like, what has he done
since then? And he just tons of voiceover work.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Makes total sense.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, Kadija and Sinclair enter. Kadija is in the process
of getting turned down by Bill Cosby's people for the
cover of Flavor.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know what, girl, dodge the bullet.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Dodged the fucking bullet.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
You are gonna have such a silver lining on this story.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Like twenty years regime follows. She's decked out for her
date with Brad when the bell rings.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, so she's decked out in like a it's a
very pretty dress like it's form fitting and then it
kind of flares the bottom. Is that a shirtwaistress? Is
that what that style is called?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
You actually don't remember it if I'm being on it.
It's not the black one with.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's the black one. But then she has the head piece.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh, I'm thinking of a different dress.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Okay, So she has this black dress on. This is
very nice but not remarkable. It has a little like
green and yellow detail on it. And then she also
this is important for the joke coming up. This is
why I'm saying. It has a very large like headband
around her head with a large on one side.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh yes, okay, now remember the look. Yeah, okay, right, No,
the dress I'm thinking of later is the en Vogue
dress dress straight out of an in Vogue video.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So Regine enters.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
The bell rings again and she excitedly answers the door
and alas it is not Brad. Is not her bow,
It is sharp tongue Maxine max Shaw played by Erica Alexander,
who I appreciated so much growing up because there was
very little Erica representation out there. Oh okay, she's the
first famous Erica that I was ever aware of. Yeah,

(31:33):
there was one later on Baywatch. So there was like
another Erica.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Erica Aleniac I don't remember her name. Look at that.
That's straight culture getting.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
But I'm going to google that because are you like
I'm going to google Erica Baywatch Erica Alaniac buck Kelly.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm straight now, Damn.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
She's an American Canadian actress. I remember growing up that
there was an Erica on bayat but before that, one
years before that, one Erica Alexander, who actually I knew
from The Cosby Show because she doesn't Pam.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
So I was like, look at it.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Look we're out here. Oh, the Erica's are out here.
So Max is an attorney, high powered attorney. She was
also Khadija's college roommate and they're best friends. Yeah, right,
so that's why she's there. Regime is disappointed. It's just Max.
Do you ever just go home, Max instead of coming
over here? I have Again I'm being a bitch, but

(32:28):
I have so many questions. Where does Max live?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Why does she why is she always over there? Okay,
so I have some answers.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Because I know how much time it takes to get
anywhere in New York City.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I think that the show will go on deposit that
Max either lives in the building. Again, I'm only like
halfway through the first season, so this may become more
clear because there are times where like she'll hear something
and come running, So she either lives in the building
or like right across the Staho. Okay, that so she
lives very close spot.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It took me two hours to get to you today
and we live in the same city, correct, So Regie,
she's like, Max, why don't you ever just go home?
And Max is like, good to see you too, girl.
Where are you going Carnival? Yep? Excellent. She does this
audience fucking goes crazy, by.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
The way, because she does this thing where she goes
like ha ha, like she like punctuates, she buttons the joke,
and it's so big and broad and so funny. I
don't know how she's getting away with it. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Max has had a fucking great day, y'all. She won
a court case. She recounts all the stuff she won
for this woman getting a divorce, including a Winnebago. She's like,
She's like, I got her in the house. The blah
blah blah and the Winnebago and Kyle says, I feel
sorry for the man in that relationship, and like he well,
he says, I feel sorry for the brother right, and
Max is like Kyle, these people own a Winnebago. You

(33:44):
should know they're not black.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Excellent, Excellent.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Kyle and Max start to spar and in a way
that clearly tells the audience this is gonna this is
gonna end up in a down the road. So where
you are in this show? Have they hooked up already?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Not yet? Not yet? Okay?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, I actually I made it as far as these
two hooking up in my original watching of the show,
so I maybe went.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
More than one season in. We've had a couple of
chaste kisses between Overton and Sinclair, but nothing further. Oh okay,
this scene did have my half of a am I
white and missing something because they make a joke about
Nipsey Russell playing the lead and Gypsy in Like Dinner
Theater because she's because Kadi just trying to get Nipsey
Russell on the cover of her magazine. Okay, I did
know who Nipsey Russell was, but I thought I was

(34:30):
missing a deeper joke about him being in Gypsy. But
I looked it up, and it seems like I'm not.
It's just a joke about Nipty Russell playing Mama Rose
and Gypsy, which, to be clear, is good enough on
its face. I just thought I was missing something.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
So the one I missed earlier is and now I'm
not trying to I wrote it down, but I don't
remember who said it to whom. Someone said it to Regime.
I think men tump you like Eddie Murphy albums.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, Kadi just says it.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Kadi says it to Regime. Yeah, I'm too white to
get that joke. I'm sorry, I don't understand that joke.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
All right, the and then leave the doorbell rings again,
and Regene is like, all right, everyone look happy. Kadija,
do your best, right, So we know Kadija. By the way,
the nay My husband was watching this with me, he
pointed out, which the show has not yet answered. Kadija
and Regime canonically grew up together in New Jersey. I
think Regene is a full Southern accent the whole time.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
She's doing a Scarlett O'Hara.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, she's doing a Blanche Devro Scarlett O'Hara, very like performative.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
So like that actually does make sense because is she
supposed to have like a New Jersey accent, like she's
covering it up with which she thinks sounds like a
sexy feminine voice. Yeah, what is more sexy and feminine
than like an old timy like either English accent or
Southern accent.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, nothing, totally get it. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, Like Regime's whole thing is so performative that PC
like the others are, Like even though we're talking about
how big Erica Alexander is playing the comedy, like Kim
Fields is playing this character that is like huge, and
I'm maybe it was a little hard on her earlier
because this is it's actually pretty hard to do because
she has to be like this like sem Fatale. Yeah,

(36:07):
in this like otherwise very grounded sitcom.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, and I think also having watched more episodes, everyone
just gets better as it goes on. Yeah, they all
kind of settled, which is true of literally every sitcom ever. Right,
Like you watch the pilot, you're like, I don't recognize
that person from four episodes later because the writers just
figure out where the sweet spot is, right, So, like
she and Queenlatifa both definitely settle into the characters more,
whereas Erika Alexander and John Hnton and Kim Coles kind

(36:33):
of appeared fully formed. It feels like like they got
it right from the very first second. All right, So
Regene opens the door. She lets in Brad played by
Silk coos Art. The two like you always do when
your date shows up, they just start to make out
in front of their friends, just full on tonsil hockey
right there in the living room.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
This is their second date. Yea.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
By the way, look, they've drank champagne out of a
shoe and a limo, so they both have commydia. Yeah, exactly,
they both have whatever anyone else who is written in
that little limo has had, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Or worn that shoe.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. This gives the women a little chance to like
kind of admire Brad from Afar. And then they start
to have a little interrogation of the man that's taking
their friend out. They learn that he owns a restaurant
in Harlem. Oh, he's a restaurant tour I find out
we're in New York City. Uh huh uh, and then
he and Regien head out. Kadija and Max are impressed. Wow,

(37:24):
Regime may have landed a good one this time surprising,
and Sinclair says he's no overton correct wisdom. Wisdom from
the mouth of the sweet dumb dumb. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
We cut to the Flavor offices the next day and Tianna,
played by Natalie Belcon enters and she's looking to take
out an ad for her restaurant.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Did you recognize this actress, Erica? I did not. We
have very recently seen this actress together.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Oh, I'm realizing the name she was.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
She was the lead she won the Tony Social Club.
I did not reckon her.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Holy shit, yep, genuinely until I until, of course the name.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I know that name.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
She's a baby in this, Yeah, gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
She's a fucking baby in this. She's so young. Nineteen
ninety three was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yah, it was my back hurts.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
So uh Broadway legend Natalie Ncallin enters and she's looking
to take.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
An ad out for her restaurant.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
She hands the information to Saint Clair, and Saint Clair
sees the name of the restaurant. She spots Brad's name
and she's like, oh, I know him. And Deanna's like, really,
how do you know my husband? And Saint Clair's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I love how in like ninety sitcoms, if you get
caught in something like that, the correct reaction is to
essentially act like you just shit your pants, Like, ah, okay,
you're gonna cover, but you're not really gonna cover. Any
thinking person who looks at you is gonna know that
something just happened. But we're gonna pretend that they don't.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Just say I met him at a party one. Yeah,
that's all you gotta say. He's a restaurant tour he
goes out a lot. Just say I've been to your restaurant.
Just say I've been to your restaurant. But she literally goes,
she flees, and she like, she goes, follow.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Me, follow me. Yeah. We cut back to the apartment
slash Scottish castle that they live in. Yeah, the mans
Kadidas and Claren Max are in the kitchen and they're
in shock that Brad is married. Max notes, you'd think
after God created dogs, she knows creating men was redundant. Excellent, excellent.

(39:39):
None of them want to be the one to tell regime.
They're all worried about what her reaction might be. Oh,
she's gonna get defensive. She's gonna blame us for knowing first.
I love this little bit that they're setting up right here.
They're so right.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, they're like, she's gonna say, you're just jealous blah
blah blah. Like they already like in advance. They're like, oh,
she's so much.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yep, And they all decide we're just gon find out
on her own, you know what, it's not worth it.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right on, que regime enters and she starts picturing her
future with Brad, like, oh, the good times. We're gonna
have the trips, the family, the little children, and her friends.
Can't take it. Kadijah and Max try to cushion the blow.
Sinclaire's like, nope, Brad's married. That's married.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Can't do it.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Can't do it, Brad's married. Regimee's like, no, she doesn't
believe them, but you know what, she doesn't get angry
or defensive.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I thought this was so interesting that they zagged.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yes. The three of them quickly convince her of the
truth of the situation. She's like, no, you're wrong, you
must have gotten it wrong, blah blah blah, and then
they give her the evidence and Regimee is now starting
to get angry, but angry at Brad, not in her friends.
Again they zagged excellent, excellent. The doorbell rings and she goes, well,
there's mister Bigamy.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Now, Erica, I have a little game for us to
play for the scene. Because the writing in this episode
is very good. Every single one of the women gets
a joke at Regime's expense about Brad. Yes, and I
can't decide what my favorite one is and I need you,
I need your help. Okay. So first up is Max.
Regime says he wants to get away from the city.
Max says that's not all he wants to get away from, okay, solid.

(41:19):
Next up is Sinclair. Regimee says something tells me he
might like a wife. Sinclair says, oh, you know your man.
That got a bigger reaction. I feel like that's in
top spot for you.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I remember it because I remember the Kim calls delivery.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Finally, we have Kadija coming in. This is after they've
told her. Regene says, if he's married, why didn't he
tell me? And Kadija says, cause he's married. Girl. Kim
calls Kim.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's always going to be Kim with me, Okay, always.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
So Regimee heads to greet Brad and her girlfriends all
gather at the kitchen door to listen to the cheater
get his ass handed to him. For the gays, this
is the exact same set up as The Golden Girls.
The set is the same, Right, there's the kitchen. There's
a swinging door in between the kitchen and the living room.
And the living room the door is on the other
side of the living room. So if you're trying to
picture what's going on here and you're not familiar with

(42:11):
the show, that's it. Brad immediately puts the moves on
regime right. She doesn't mince words. She's like, you have
a wife. I know you have a wife. What the fuck?
And he's like, I just need a chance to explain.
And the women on the other side of the door
start to like predict what he's gonna say. He says
exactly what they think he's going to say. Unfortunately, though,
this man's charisma, his charisma is so much that regime

(42:34):
can't resist him. And when her friends hear the front
door slam, they burst into the room. They're ready to celebrate.
You go, girl, that was fantastic, and the room is empty,
Regene has left with Brad and Sinclair says, well, that
was awfully polite of her to walk him outside.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Amazing. We cut to a few days later, all the
friends minus Regime are gathered and setting up a board
game like night at the House.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Kadisha is looking still for.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
A cover model for her next issue, because fucking Maya
Angelou will not budge. What do I think was in
Maya Angelou's writer, I don't want to be basic, but
I feel like there had to have been a birdcase.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
X amount of dollars donated to a local library, definitely,
but also a.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Three pound bag of Eminem's.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
But just the green ones, just the green ones, nothing else,
nothing else. You have to go to the eminem store
in Times Square. I doubt that existed in the nineties,
but maybe it did. I don't know, it probably didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I think Times Square in the nineties was a little more,
a little more gunshots and mess.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah. By the way, people who are coming to New
York do not buy Eminem's at the eminem storrees Times Square.
They will send you to the poorhouse, and they are crazy.
Experience I have.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Because I am judging you so hard. In case in
case the audience didn't recognize the judgment dripping from that question.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I've been there few times you what?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Why? Because my mother loves the caramel coldbrew Eminem's and
I can't get them other places were for a while,
I couldn't. I think you can get them off of
like you can order them now, but there's the only
place to get them for a while.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
You love your mother, yeah, more than I love mine.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I'm just going to say it. There's nothing a gay
boy want you for his mind.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I will not go into that eminem store for if
you were dying and the cure was in.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
The eminem store, It's it's curtains.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It was so nice knowing you. It was great knowing you.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Can I have your TV and I'll be like, turn
on the mics real quick. I have to let everyone
know something this scene. By the way, this is the
reference I did not get because she mentioned Slappy White.
I did not know slappy white.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, that's definitely a white person thing. Yeah, that's it
a little bit of a nineties thing as well.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
That's it is an older reference. That is an older reference.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, Nipsey or Russell. To be fair, was it also
an older reference.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yes, but that one I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did briefly think Nipsey Hustle and I was like,
wait no that nope, okay, got it, even we're parody. Yeah,
I had to go back from there.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But yeah, So the other women are talking about what
a shithead Brad is. Kyle's like, what do you have
against Brad? And Maxine replies his wife and Regiene appears
and she this, This outfit, This outfit sent me into
a nineties just delightful fashion spiral. It is a black

(45:33):
like velvet shift dress sort of in the nineties, there
was a thing we had such a thing for, like
like a a choker collar y.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, attatched with like with like grips of fabric.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Drips of fabric to a dress.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
It is so nineties in the best way. And it
is so hot.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
She looks like, this is the one I was mentioning earlier.
It looks like an en Vogue video. It is straight
out of an en Vogue video. She could not look better.
She looks so fucking good in this scene.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Agreed. There's a great line in the scene that Overton
has and this this was the thing that solidified my
deep love of Overton.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Uh huh, Oh, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
It it's so good.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So they're talking about like regime dating this married man
blah blah blah, and Overton says, you know, I dated
a married woman once, and Sinclaire looks over and she
goes really and with the cutest like bashful smile. He says, no,
I'm just lying, trying to get attention again. And then
and he like mugs for the cameras a little bit
with like this little sheepish grin. That was it. I'm

(46:34):
sold on Overton forever.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, that was really Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
The audience too.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
The audience loved that joke.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, so good.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I forgot how fun like a sitcom is with an audience.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yes, we don't like a real audience, yeah, I mean
I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I don't know that I'd like it anymore because we've
moved past it so much. But like you get, like
all our modern sitcoms are so dark and heavy, uh huh.
Sometimes you just want someone to like look at the
audience in a wink.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I do wish they could take out the oh when
something like sweet happens. Yeah, I'm like, oh, don't do
that no or the yeah, oh no, no, no stop,
I'm not doing that anymore. They must tell them do
that to cover the silence, right, They need noise because
it's weird if it's just quiet when someone's doing something.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Must tell them to do that, right, But also, like
I don't know, A part of me thinks it's also
just like they knew. They were supposed like a sick
company nineteen ninety three. It was trained to know how
to respond to certain things, and like that's every show
that's not like, that's absolutely not just this one. Liked
there did seem to me, maybe now that we're saying

(47:38):
it out loud, there seemed to be more of a
back and forth with the audience than I'm used to
with this one.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Like, yeah, I think Erica Alexander in particular is almost
acknowledging the audience.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it was really cool. I haven't seen
that in so long.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
So the girls are like, I can't believe you're still
seeing this married man, and regime defense her. She's like, look,
Brad told me his marriage has been over for a
really long time and he is going to break it
off very very soon, like eat me even. Erica is like, girl,
I want to go through the space time continuum and

(48:16):
help you out. Kadiz's like, I have an idea. I
should put you on the cover of my magazine for
a story titled Flavors Full of the Year. Regime snaps.
She's like, I could take care of myself. Okay, so
fuck off. She didn't say fuck off because this is
a sitcom, Yeah, but that's the tone, and she leaves
in a huff. She immediately reappears and she's like, I

(48:38):
forgot Brad's picking me up.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Excellent. We cut to later that night. The women are
in the living room of their luxury ski lodge in
the Alps.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Their bucolic cabin uh huh.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Snack foods are in an array before them, so we know, oh,
we've hit the snack food section of the evening right.
Regene is still dressed in her date in that nineties
Halter dress that Erica is living for, but clearly Brad
never showed up. Regine wonders why this keeps happening to her,
and Max says, you're looking for someone to carry you,
and she says, well, what's wrong with that? And Kadezra

(49:14):
replies they keep dropping your ass. Excellent, excellent. This is
like I think in this first episode, Queen Latifa is
kind of she's she's pushing the joke a little bit
too much, and this line she nails. She just tosses
it off, throws it away. Perfect.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, it's also worth mentioning like regime's worst fear, so
to speak, is exactly what these other three are living,
which is like it's Friday night or Saturday night. Yeah, home,
they're having a game night, they're eating snacks, they're just chilling,
like they're in there in their comfy clothes, you know.
And she's like, no, I will not settle.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I will end.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Like the contrast is great because it's like the other
three are like, no, this is not settling, this is
this is perfection.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I think that kind of representation is difficult to find
in the early nineties, when, especially when anything that was
centered around women was so like about romance and about
finding love and about finding a partner, and like the
messaging over and over again was about that and like
and less about like friendship or career or anything like that.

(50:23):
And this is an early precursor. It's a really cool
message that like that this is sending out and you
could this is like not for nothing.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You could tell a woman wrote this. Yeah yeah. So
the other women encourage Regime to believe that she can
get all she wants by herself. Max says that men
are the speed bumps on the road to happiness and
Regene says, no, they're more like pante hoose. At the
worst moment, they run on you. Sinclair wonders what the
world would be like without men, and Khadija replies with

(50:50):
an absolute crowning moment of a line. I actually, I
actually feel Erica that as a man, I should not
say it, and as a woman you should say this.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Had It's my favorite line in the episode, because is perfect.
We're still saying this today. What would the world be
like without men? A bunch of fat, happy women and
no crime?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So good, so good, so good, and I'm so so true.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Uh huh, deeply fucking true.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
If the matriarchy rises, can I just be your gester ha?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I like, if the matriarchy rises, I think you're you're
gonna be like the secretary. Yeah, you're gonna be You're
not the gesture.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
You're I'm happy to work for my keep. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the historian. Yeah, we'll give you a job. Yeah. I
just don't want to be part of the breeding stock.
That's my only request.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I don't think we would do that.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, I think we're fine. You're fine, You're fine.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
So we cut to a few days later, probably in
the morning, the three roommates are getting ready in the
bathroom for work, brushing their teeth, doing their hair, getting dressed. Max,
remember who does not live with them, enters. She's fully
dressed for work. Right, she's got like, I think, a briefcase.
Even in my head, she's holding the briefcase. Ye.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
She always looks like she's going to deliver money to
someone who required ten thousand dollars to release her daughter
or something.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
So she goes into their bathroom whether they're all getting
dressed and ready for work, and she's She announces that
Flavor magazine sold out on the news stand around the corner,
and Kadija is so proud of her lead story, Married
Men the Sleeping Dog That Lies excellent she made. She
genuinely did turn Regime's story into art into cover story.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
However, we do never find out who the cover star was.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I hope it was Regime.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
She would love that she's gorgeous. Put her on the
cover her magazine.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
My Girl by the Temptations comes on the radio and
the four women start to sing into bathroom appliances and
dance along to the music. It's a very cute moment.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I also loved the comic escalation of this because it
starts and Kadijra goes first. She singing too, I think
a hairbrush or something, and she's singing it. She's clowning
around a little bit, but she's kind of having fun
and dancing right. And then Kim Coles comes over and
she's doing something a little bit bigger. And then Kim
Fields comes in. She's singing into a hair dryer. And
then the time we get to Erika Alexander, who has

(53:10):
a toilet brush and is like just again pulling the
broadest faces and singing silly. I don't like. Did you
watch Kim Coles in this scene? Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
There's a moment where she does the robot. Yes, that
is maybe my fucking favorite thing in the whole episode.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
She's so good.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I read this online somewhere years ago and its stuck
with me. One of the biggest lies pop culture ever
told us is that adults get together before work.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
In the mornings. I bare my husband before work.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Is that adult life? Is you getting fully dressed and
then going to your friend's house in the mornings for
breakfast before work. That is pop culture has sold that
lie to a generation of people. Not one of us
have ever seen each other before work in the morning.
That's correct Edie, that made me laugh the minute. Erica
Alexander walks into this scene and I'm like, where do

(54:06):
you live?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And that is the pilot episode of a living single?
So you got a couple of commercials to play here.
We will come right back. We're gonna take you through
episode five in the black is Beautiful, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
We open in the brownstone bathroom or the mansion.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
In Provence with these women life. Yep, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Khadija and Sinclair noticed that a toilet seat is up,
and they're like, huh, No one scrubbed the bathroom Overton
didn't fix the tank. None of us had a man over.
What's going on? Why is the toilet set up?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
We have a mystery and regime.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Burst in with a full voice, touch me in the morning, and.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Now we know. Now we know someone did have a
man over credits.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yes, we come back to the Flavor offices and Kadija
is in a meeting with Elmo Sable perfect name, no perfect.
Elmo Sable played by Steve White. He is the skeezy
owner of a local beverage company and he wants to
buy a full page ad which involves a woman in
a tiger striped g string kissing his product.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
He looks art, he knows what sells. He knows what sells, Yes,
sex cells.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Kadija admits that Flavor is a new magazine and that
they could use his business, but this, unfortunately, is not
the type.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Of business they're looking for.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
They have taste, and they don't They don't want to
objectify women in this in this disgusting manner. Sable insteads like,
I see your point about ejectifying women. That's terrible. Yeah,
would you like to ride my face? Now?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Again? This is Fox and Prime. Jones doesn't quite say
it like that, no, but.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
He literally asked Kadija, do you want to spend the
night in the hot tub with me? And she's like,
how a butt instead? I kick your ass? Yes, she
chases him out of her office.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yep. So after the meeting, Sinclair informs Kadija of two things.
Number One, they're two thousand dollars behind on their bill
to the printer, which I did. The math is about
forty five hundred dollars today.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Doesn't seem like that much for a small like even
for a small business, for.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
A small business with twenty employees, it seems doable. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, this is the episode where I'm going to question
It feels like the writers could have spoken to someone
who's in a business, yes, just to understand what business costs.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Well. Also, if you're able to pull Maya Angelou for
your cover, there must be cash flow somewhere.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Because like, two thousand dollars should not be an insurmountable
amount of money that you are going to have to
close your business because you can't pay it.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah. And the other thing that Sinclair enforms Kadija is
that the printer has been on hold for the last
ten minutes. Oh and he's still there. He must like
Kenny j. Kadija picks up the phone to sweet talk
the printer. She assures him that they have the money.
We have the money. No, we have the money, ce Tip,
I said, we have the money. Hangs up we don't

(57:02):
have the money. Shit.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, she's very good in this scene. Yeah, quin Katifa
has already gotten better.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah, the improvement is very very quick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
At the apartment that night, Kadija is like casting around
for solution. What can we do? How can I get money?
She hits a dead end on a new credit card limit.
Regime enters and she's like, hey, what's going on, And
Kadija says to Sinclair, keep business at the office. This
is do not tell anyone what's going on. What's going
on in the business at home. We're keeping them separate. This,

(57:33):
of course only peques Regime's interests.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
More.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Wait, what happens when they happened to the office?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
On me?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
What's the hot goss?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
What's going on on board? Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Me who's screwing who? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Who copied their button?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
The printer who went with their HR person to the
Coldplay concert?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Who puts sailing in Kadidia's coffee ha ha, Who flooded
the bathroom, who threw one too many pins up into
the ceiling, got stuck in that ceiling tile thing that
we used to do in the nineties, and the ceiling
tile fell down on their heads.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Oh who rang the fire alarm because they thought it
would get them out of a meeting, but it just
got them arrested.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Who thought they put somebody on hold, but they actually
put them on speakerphone. Ooh, that's bad. That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's a bad one. Who who, Oh, this is a
bad one. Who copied everyone on an email sent all
to the entire company? And then who responded to that
as a funny joke? And then who responded to that
as a funny joke. And by the third time, everyone
wants to kill everyone else.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, yeah, who did that? Who did that?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
And he's just like, no, it's business. And then this
is personal and we are not talking about it. So
she walks out of the room.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Max enters and to the to the adulation of the crowd. Frankly,
and I'm one of them at this point. Every time
Erica Alexander, because she walks in and she like, she
like swaggers in everywhere. She doesn't do this, but in
my head she kicks down the door.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yeah, Like in my head, she like she like this
is I hate to keep like comparing it to other
sitcoms or how much better is this than Kramer? Right?
Doesn't it feel like it's a creamer kind of just
like they're like literally is like paw, I'm coming in.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah. So she joins forces with Regime to get the
dish out of Sinclair, and Sinclair says no, no. Kadija
said that business stays at the office, and Maax says, well,
if business stays at the office, let's just pretend we're
at the office. And Sinclair's like, oh my god, thank god.
She os the printer of two thousand dollars. Excellent. The

(59:29):
women immediately all want to help Kadija. Right, this is
not dishy gossip, be backstabbing stuff. This is oh okay,
our friends in trouble, circle the wagons, let's figure this
shit out. Regime tells Max that she should just loan
Kadja the money. You're the high powered attorney with a
big salary and no man, and Max says, I would offer,
but I know Kadija wouldn't take it. I once a
loander one hundred dollars for textbooks in college, and Kadija

(59:52):
couldn't sleep until she paid it off. And then she
says she even got a job at Chuck E Cheese,
and Sinclair looks up and Kim coles you absolute. She says,
I wanted to work at Chuck E Cheese, but they
turned me down. My head was too big for the
head Chuck E Cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
He's like a very nineties reference.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Kadija walks back in. She's like, what are y'all talking about?
In Regime's like, uh, we're talking about your money problems.
Cool way to keep it cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Regime love that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
There's a knock at the door, and Regime answers, and
she lets Kyle and Overton in and they're quickly read
in on this situation, much to Kadiza's like annoyance. She
says like, great, now everyone knows. Don't worry about it.
I got it under control.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I will be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
And Max is like, I will lend you the money
if you need money. It's fine, and Kadij's like, nope,
will not borrow money. I will figure this out on
my own. I'm a business woman. I do business, business, business, business,
business business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I will call my uncle, who is clearly a bazillionaire
and gave me four million dollars to start this magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
How did she start this magazine?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I know, Jene in question because we are thinking this
with twenty twenty five brains. And this is, by the way,
what I'm i about to say does not is not correct,
just so I know that. But like, the nineties was
much more friendly to like independent artistic ventures, right, like
indie movies and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Right, yeah, indie indie magazine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Indie magazines, like magazine that was that was a that
was a legitimate that that's not a legitimate business now,
but like you could dream of being a magazine and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
They sold they sold issues, money making magazines you don't anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Right, was it possible that someone could just start a
magazine with like a dream in like five hundred thousand dollars?
But then where did she get the five hundred thousand dollars?
Set the five.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Hundred or ten thousand dollars? Yea like something small, but
like where did the Yes, this is a situation where
it's a bunch of sitcom writers who've only ever maybe
done like TV writing in their lives, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
They're like, how does how did businesses work? You know what,
don't worry about it? Why can't you just go to
a bank, Yeah, because it seems like they're actually missing
an opportunity for comedy in this sense of like maybe
there is a wealthy benefactor that wants something like what
if this skeezy guy was had an actual say in
the magazine. It's like there's comedy there that they're not

(01:02:14):
because at this point, like where is the money for
this coming, where's the overhead? Where's the overhead for the magazine. Also,
we're forty five, not twenty, and people who are twenty
don't care about things like that we're talking about right now,
super don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Care and sitcom audiences in the nineties, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Really didn't really didn't care. Remember how Phoebe lived on
her own in New York on a massage therapist's salary
and she lived in like the West Village.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
She was also a busker. Don't forget busking earns you millions. Yeah,
Kyle smugly points out that men don't haggle over such
small things as money, and Overton's like, I'm so glad
you said that, because you owe me twenty four dollars
for bowling last week. And Kyle's like, show me the
receipts and I will give you the money, like, so

(01:02:56):
there's a little little tension of ruin amongst the gentle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
We've dropped the b plot for the episode. Kadija heads
to her room up up the ground staircase into the
West wing haha. She asserts, I will solve my own problems.
And not only will I solve my own problems, all
of you will not be talking about it. This is
my problem, not yours, but out you are forbidden.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
You know, like if one of my friends was like,
I have a thing and you are forbidden to talk
about it behind my back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I would have to drop that as that person as
a friend because you do not understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
That's going to make me call a summit of literally
everyone I know who's ever met you, and I will
pay for dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
We are going to do nothing but talk about this person.
Uh huh forever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Now it's a miscalculation on Cadigi's part. I'm not gonna lie,
dare you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
One of the best parts of friendship is talking about
the other person behind their back and leave the room.
We all know this. That is the understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
That's what a friend is. They're the person you try
to talk about you behind your back. Once you've left
the room. As soon as Cadija is gone, the other
five put their heads together and they start hatching schemes.
We are plotting, you know what, Paul, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Why don't you finish the sex section. I'm just gonna
run in the bathroom real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Oh sure, shore go go go, go go go. Okay, listeners,
now that she's gone, it's gonna tell you really quickly
while she's not listening. You know how we mentioned the
Buena Vista social club that we went to see that
we went to see it together, right, and as you
I'm sure you know like most of that music is
in Spanish, or all of the music is in Spanish. Actually,
I don't think she speaks Spanish. I'm not entirely sure.
She's actually Latina. I tell you, I knew I understood

(01:04:38):
more of that music than Erica did. Okey oh okay,
oh sorry, no problem, no problem, okay. So as soon
as she's gone, the other five put their heads together
and start hatching schemes that Erica, no, I have to pee,
I caught. Oh I'm sorry, it's like you gave me
the yawns.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Okay, I'll be right back okay, yeah, yeah, no worries.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
No worries.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I thought you would have gotten further in the plot
while I was in the bathroom. But I guess, all right, whatever,
I guess someone's not into working today. I love Paul,
but honestly, it's like it's like pulling teeth to get
him to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
It's like, I he pretends he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Like does all the work on this show, but honestly, guys,
it's like it's like three percent him in ninety seven
percent me. I feel like I feel like I'm really
drag and ask to get Paul to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Oh hey, I'm back. Oh, oh, so much better, so
much better?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Oh I hear water?

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Did you leave the sink running?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Oh? Let me check.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
And another thing, I really don't think he's gay. I
think I honestly, I think he's just he's doing it
for the attention. I caught him watching NASCAR the other day.
I mean, really, are we Oh hey, Paul, Hey, hey,
no water running.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I know what you heard, but everyone was good in
there where I heard water running. Never mind. Oh okay, Well,
should we get back the episode? Yes? Please? Okay, So
Kadija leaves. The other five are all putting their together.
They start hatching schemes and Sinclair suggests that, hey, maybe
we could raise the money for Khadija, and Max says, hey,
you know, you might have something there, and Sinclair, emboldened
by this validation, announces we could have a telethon, and

(01:06:13):
Max says, my mistake Overton says, when my father had
a problem, he used to skip rocks, and he starts
to lose himself in this story, and Max snaps, what
is it to have to do with helping Kadija. Finally,
Regime suggests a lingerie party. She says, I can get
the product wholesale from my job at the boutique, and
then we can sell it at the apartment and give

(01:06:34):
the profit to Khadija. Another very niceties thing that I
don't think is a real thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
This seems illegal. Yeah, this seems so highly illegal to me,
but she's suggesting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
The others agree that this is the best idea, particularly Kyle,
who's thrilled at the thought of an apartment filled with
women buying lingerie and Max informs him you're not invited.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, these two have good chemistry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah was that the doorbell? Let me just run in
check real quick, yep, yep. One more thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I caught him listening to Christian rock the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I don't even know what that's about. Hey, no one
at the door. I thought I heard something. Oh interesting, Yeah,
before we get started again, is that your phone?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Oh shit, hang on, I gotta take this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Okay, Erica doesn't tip at restaurants. She says she does,
but she doesn't. I have to go back all the
time and leave twenty dollars for the waiter and apologize.
It's so humiliating. Any calls and oh yeah it was
just my doctor. I'm negative. Oh good. Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So we cut to the lingerie party, which includes Overton
in his underwear and a tool belt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah, excellent joke, excellent. It doesn't really make any sense,
but I don't care. I don't care it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Doesn't Yeah, it makes zero sense. Yeah. He starts to dance,
and he says, if it wasn't for his knobby knees,
he could have been a table dancer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yes, you could have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Like they're just genuinely like just using this actors like
goofiness and to the possible top level. The crowd is
going wild. There's women everywhere. They're buying like to be fair.
It's not a bunch of women in lingerie. Yeah, it's
a bunch of women buying lingerie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
The only person who's undressed in this is overt Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
So like again subverts the like the image you're gonna
you think when you think of a lingerie party, sexy, gauzy. No,
it's just a bunch of women like out of Victoria's Secret, essentially,
but in a living room. Kadija unfortunately returns home early
and she's like, what's going on here? And one of
the clients wonders if she's the broke chick they're helping
Outja's like, everyone out of my house, out of my

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house right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Khadiju restates that I don't need any handouts, and Sinclair
chimes in that look, this might not be the best
time to mention this. But the printer called again and
he threatened to see that flavor is never printed anywhere
else ever again if he does not get paid, and
Max says enough enough, I'm writing you a check right
now here. You go, be done with it. Kadija's like no, no, no, okay.

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She takes the check and then once she has it,
she's like, but then I would owe you two thousand dollars. No,
I can't take it. She rips up the check, and
Erica Alexander says, ooh, now I have to write void
in my letter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I could not have felt more seen in that moment,
genuinely was she ripped up that check. I was like, Ah,
what a waste of a perfectly good check.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Now I've done do this whole thing. Kids. So when
you used to have a check book in order to
balance a check book, kids will know this. Yeah, if
a check got ripped up, you want to write void
on it so you would not think that there was
money out there that had not been.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yes, so you had spent and had not been cashed.
Because there's nothing worse than when you put a check
out into the world and it doesn't get cashed right away,
and then like three months later, you're like, what why
do I have?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Why did seventy five dollars? My account's sun and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
And you're like, son of a bitch, that plumber just catch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
That check, Okay. So then Kadita keeps thinking about it,
and she says, oh, well, you know it would be
a business loan, right, and Max says yes, he's so
could you just says, Okay, just make it out to flavor.
No no, no, no no, make it out to the printer.
Oh wait wait no, no, no no, Then then he'll
know that I don't have the money. Just make it
out to me. And Max says, I'm making out for
the Society for the Treatment of Schizophrenic Black Women that
own magazines. Okay, and she hands Kadija the check and

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Kadija thanks her and she takes it. What would it
genuinely in this situation, would you be able to borrow
that kind of money.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
From somebody like a Fridly to save a business? Yes, yeah,
I think so because also, like when again, I'm forty five,
so my priorities are different, but I'm like, I have
employees that I have to take care of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Like, yeah, it's more than just you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
If the business goes under, it's it's a bunch of
other people lose their jobs over two thousand dollars, which
again really seems like a surmountable amount of money.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
And just set up if you ever do this, kid
you feel uncomfortable, set up a payment plan. Okay, you're
gonna loan me this, I'm gonna pay you back. I
can do one hundred dollars a month, and I'm sure
the person loaning it to you, if they're a good friend,
will be like, fine, and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I'm only going to charge you nine percent intures exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
You can pay off your principal first. Oh no, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Paying off the prince first, paying interest first. We're doing
this like a mortgage, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
We're doing this like a college loan A No, honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
But again, I'm coming at it from a forty five
year like year old's brain, Like I can see people
in their twenties getting really antsy about borrowing money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Yeah, how about you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Do you ever borrow money from someone? No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I loaned money to someone once and it got paid back.
I loarned someone a thousand dollars months. Yeah, because back
back when I when we were younger, and I was
doing the best of all my friends, because I had
two five hundred dollars in my bank account. You gave
half of it away to someone. Someone needed money for
a not a down payment. Someone needed the money for
a rental's deposit, and I gave it to them nice

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and they paid it back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
To be clear, Ah, that's sweet. The person who I
loaned a thousand dollars to knows who they are. Any
day now, Karen, any day just waited. Interest is accruing Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Good tonight, I'm gonna write I'm gonna cross Karen off
my list.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I've never I have loaned money to people before, but
not that amount. My friend once told me I was
immune to poverty because I've never like I've always lived
in like really shithole apartment, and I've always had like
three jobs at once. Since so like, I just I
kept the overhead low.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
That that was my secret.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
And so she's like, it's like, you're immune to poverty.
We cut to Sinclair and Kyle reading the latest issue
of Flavor on the couch of the apartment also known
as the Playboy Mansion.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Kadija enters. She's running hot. She's like, you better have
bought those issues and not and not stolen them from
the office.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
We need every penny we can get. They scramble to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Give her money. Here you go, here's the money for
the issues we they we're reading. She leaves again, lamenting
the lack of ginger snaps in the house. Where the
goddamn are the ginger snaps?

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I definitely said, I've never said it about ginger snaps,
but I have definitely said something to that effect about
chocolate or cookies of some sort.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
She's a she's a stress eater, is what we're learning
about Kadija. I feel seen by a lot of these women.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Yeah. No, one is more nervous about their not being
ice cream in the house than my husband. Because my
husband's like, you know, you don't have ice cream, and
I don't want to be caught with my pants down
because you're gonna throw a fit because you don't have sweets.
We need to go get ice cream, and I'll be like, no,
it's fine. He's like, no, no, it's not. Actually, actually,
we're going to get ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
He knows you on a level that you do not
know yourself, and then makes so much sense because I
have opened your freezer and the ungodly amount of ice
cream in there that have met me. He is planning
for an apocalyptic event in the case something goes terribly
terribly wrong for Paul. We're gonna have ice c We're
gonna have all the flavors. Yep, the doorbell rings. Regime

(01:13:30):
answers it. It's overtin. Overton has receipts, and now he
knows that Kyle doesn't owe him twenty four dollars, he
owes him twenty six dollars and seventy two cents because
there is a little thing called tex in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Max arrives next, and Regime snaps at her that if
she was going to lone Kadiza the money, you could
have stayed here and suffered or there were consequences with
the rest of us. I'm gonna say something. Look, listeners,
everything I'm about to say is gonna sound horrible, but
I want you to know right now that this looks
amazing on Erica Alexander. She is wearing a unicolored cantelope

(01:14:06):
orange suit. Oh yeah, with baggy legs that are gathered
around the ankles. There's a double breasted jacket. The boots match.
She looks in CREDI bule. Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, this power suit's coming back. I see this on
the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Now. There's shoulder pads for days. Yes. So Max is like,
all right, I'll go talk to her. She heads into
the kitchen and she's like, look, Kadija, the loan is
no big deal. Besides, whenever I loan money to anyone.
I just pretend I'm never gonna see it again. And
Erica Alexander's this is one of those moments where she's
really mugging to the to the audience. The audience is
eating it up with a spoon. Kadija mutters fine, and

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Max is like, skippity dude, as skippity a. Let's go
back into the living room. All is well, and she
struts back into the living room.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Max heads back into the living room and she's like, success,
I have tamed the beast Kadija down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
The lion tamer has arived.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Don't worry everyone, She's cool again. She's the vibes are good,
and Kadija walks right behind her. It's like, exactly what
did you mean when you said you didn't expect to
see the money again? And you know you are in
trouble with your friend when they start to over enunciate
the words.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I'm doing my best to remain calm and not raise
my voice.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
What exactly did you mean when you told me that
I looked fine in that outfit?

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Eh?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Max is like no, no, no, no, we're de escalating here, baby,
It's fine, not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
But the fight continues.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
To escalate because Kadija is not having it, until Max
finally gets so mad at Kadija that she's like, fine,
pay me back, pay me back right away, and we
can put this all behind us right now. Just pay
me back by Monday, and Kadija snaps, I'll have it
for you by Friday, and the two of them storm out.
Sinclair's like, oh, no, money is ruining their friendship. It's

(01:15:59):
coming between them, and Overton looks at Kyle and he's like,
I don't want money to come between us. I forgive
you your debt of twenty six dollars and seventy two cents.
And the men are like oh, and they almost.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Hug it out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
But it is nineteen ninety three, yep. And there's a
gay panic joke.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, yep, very minor gay panic joke. To be fair,
I lost very nineteen ninety three. It's very nineteen ninety three.
It wouldn't happen today. But it's it's not offensive. It's like,
it's the most minor one that I can think of. Literally,
there's fourteen on every episode of Friends that are worse
than this one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah, but I did roll my eyes when I saw this.
I was like, oh, there is nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
There she is at Flavor. Kadija is tightening the belt loops.
Listen up, people, we are not spending money. She announces
that the Xerox machine will be their new source of
light and heat. Further, Elmo Sable is back. She keeps
calling him mister Sable, and he keeps saying Elmo excellent.

(01:16:55):
He's just as much of his skis as before. He
immediately references Kadija's bosom and she offers him cool awesome,
this is a business meeting. She offers him a multi
isssue run for say it with me two thousand dollars.
Sable is thrilled. He agrees, he's excited about his new
ad campaign ninety nine babes and a beer on the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
The fact that he like he was like great, two
thousand dollars, no problem so quickly means she could have
gone higher. Oh yeah, she should have asked for five
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah. Again, the signs at Kadija isn't the best business woman?
Are there? Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
As almost Sable writes the check. Sinclair snaps a polaroid
of Kadija and Kadiji's like what's going on? And she goes, oh,
I just wanted to get a picture of you from
the very moment you sold out, which that seems a
bit pointed for Sinclair. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I was like, damn, I didn't know you had that
in Usinclaire. That feels like a Max moment. Yeah, you know, Yeah,
Sinclair's the one there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
She's the one that, yeah, the writers put it, put
it in her hands. Dja looks at the polaroid and
she's like, yep, you're right, I can't do it. She
tears up the check and she says, listen, my integrity
is more important to me than the two thousand dollars
you're going to give me for this ad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
So no, thank you, but no thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
And he goes, well, your integrity makes my nature rise.
Ew look at me in the eye when I say it, okay,
my nature ride.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Oh god, you all can't see the eyebrow action that's happening.
Oh oh, very long tongue, very long tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
It's like a giraffe's tongue. It's long and a little purple.
She throws him out again for the last time, sir,
no thank you. I don't want anything. I'm not picking
up what you're putting down.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
There's another great Kim Cole's moment in the scene where
she hands she hands Kadija the polaroid and then she says,
I'll get a frame for it later, and she does
this thing where she's like fixing her pants. She's like
pulling her pants up. It's just a great bit of
like the line I'll get a frame for it later
is kind of funny. It's a light joke. Yeah, but
if you want to see how to like enhance a

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joke through physical comedy, this is a great moment to
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Kim Coles never misses. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
We cut back to the Brownstone, I mean Wayne Manor
where the women live, and Kadija has gathered the three
ladies and she says, look, I gathered you here because
I want to apologize. So the three women are all
sitting on the couch. Kadija walks behind them and she
points at Sinclair and she says, you were wrong for
telling my business. And then she points at Regene and

(01:19:33):
she says you were wrong for getting in my business.
And then she points at Max and she says you
were wrong for getting the business with me, and Regiene
comments how hard that must have been for her. You're
so gracious, Kadija admits, look, I know I could have
handled everything better. They're like, you sold the toaster and
she says it was mine. And you sold the TV
and she says it was mine. You sold the blender

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and Sinclair says it was mine. She admits that she's
not used to accepting help. She's used to being self sufficient.
That's who I am, and Max tells her a line
that you will pay therapist thousands of dollars and spend
years of your life to try to understand and get
to the point of acceptance on I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Wrote this one down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Yes, I was like, this is a sitcom. Yes, Max says,
that's your self portrait. Honey. Ain't nobody painting that picture
but you. That's fucking good writing. Your friends are here
to help you. You refusing help, that's your issue. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Regime tells Kadija that borrowing money is the American way.
It's in the constitution, and everyone's like, I don't think
it is, and she's like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
That's what I took from it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Max says that borrowing money between friends is fine, but
another word of advice, Max is dropping knowledge today. Yeah,
never loan money to a man. If you do, one day,
you'll wake up to find that he left with four
thousand dollars of your money and your entire people price
and collect, and you will end up with one pair
of his raggedy s tank drawers that he thought you

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look cut in. That is that is just an example
out of the blue.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Yeah, that's that's not specific. That's not specific to anyone Max.
They do a lot with Max of like the bad
ends of her past relationships. Erica Alexander never misses. Kadija
admits that she doesn't know when she'll be able to
pay Max back, but I'm giving you two percent ownership
of Flavor, and Max says, oh my god, you would
give me a piece of your dream. So sweet. The

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ladies decide to head into the kitchen for a malted milkshake,
only to head right back into the living room for
the other three to start hitting Kdejra with the pillows
because she sold the blender.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
And then there's like a really gross scene over the
credits where they're making a milkshake using a hand mixer
and a giant like like punch bowl and it's it's
it's it's gross. Yeah, it's pretty gross.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Someone tries to throw a banana peel in it at
one point, which is really wid.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
It feels like Sinclair.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah, it feels like it feels like it. And that's
the end of that episode of Living Singles. So stick around.
We're going to come right back with our random observations
and final rankings.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
And we're back, Paul, give me some random observations about
living Single.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I think the most important thing that we have to
talk about that we have not yet talked about is
clearly the genius that is Kim Coles dancing in the
opening credits. Yes, Vanae and I have now watched approximately
sixteen episodes of this and we both stop. We'd never
double screen for the one and a half second shot
of Kim Cole's kind of fully spiking the camera yep

(01:22:46):
and perkily, jerkily dancing with this expression on her face
that says, is this what you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
She also looks kind of proud of herself. Yes, I'm
doing it, Mom, I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Look at me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Here's what I wrote over the opening credits, yere Kim
Coles is the fucking best.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Yeah, all of mine are quotes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Okay, and from the first for the first episode, I
have just the most nineteen ninety three line. Unfortunately I
did get the reference. I am not too young nor
too white to understand. But at one point there's an
argument going on and someone says, can't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
We all just get along? And that got a laugh
from the audience in nineteen ninety three, that is it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
That is a year away from when that happened, and
that started getting laughs as early as nineteen ninety three, Like,
let's reference.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
This, uh huh. Absolutely. Another question about Kadija's magazine business
that's going on. There is a reference in one of
the episodes that she has a column entitled ten simple
Steps to smooth skin, luscious legs and a tasty butt.
And who is the author of that, Prince Prince. She's

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getting guessed columns by Prince, but financially st I have questions, girl,
I have questions. Who is the CFO.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
I actually had that as one of mine too, because
the thing that's not so great. So at one point,
like someone's reading that out loud, tens accepts a smooth skin,
luscious legs tasty butt, and Kyle's like, Ooh, I'm intrigued,
and they say by Prince and he goes, oh, I'm
feeling sick. Yeah again not great, not great nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Two very minor gay panic jokes in these two episodes.
I did look up later because I was just very curious, like,
was there ever any gay storylines on Living Single? There's
apparently one that is lauded where I believe it's Kadija. No,
it's Max's old friend comes out as a lesbian and
they like host her like like gay bachelorette party and

(01:24:45):
stuff like that, and it's it's apparently beloved amongst the
gay community. So the show comes down broadly on the
right side of history. So we love that. Yes, good
for them, lesbian lesbian lesbian, not Lebanese bl Okay Lesby.
We're not talking about golden girls. We're talking about Living Single.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Another one, Sinclair has like a Sinclair. There's like a
tiny gag in the pilot that they drop immediately that
Sinclair is like it constantly in school, like she's getting
her phdy did they keep.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Going with that at all? They drop it for a while.
It comes back in one where she's she's studying something
else and they drop it again. So I'm guessing it
kind of pops in out whenever the writers want to
use it. Got it so, yeah, so they so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Her thesis that she dropped was purple lipstick the black
Woman's enemy. Jolly will admit, I am too white to
understand that joke.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, I just I just went with it. The delivery
was good. I'm like, I think I get it perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
I'm pretty sure I get it, but I don't know
one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Percent get it that is. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
That was my game of well, too white to get
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Yep. There's this in the second episode that we talked about.
When Kadija is running really hot, someone says she's uptight.
Regimee says that woman was born uptight. The doctor slapped her,
she slapped him back. Ha ha excellent. I just have
one more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Also from that second episode, during the lingerie party, there's
a woman an extra. She's not really an extra. She
has one light like two lines, but she just fucking
gives and so she's a big, heavier woman and she's
trying on a very small piece of light. She's like
laying over a very small piece of lingerie over her clothes,
and she's like, that looks cute, right, And there's a
little bit of a joke there, no love, a fat joke,

(01:26:25):
but I'm gonna I'm going with it because that woman
is really selling it. And then she picks up a
song and she's like, this is cute too, but it
looks super uncomfortable, and Regimee's like, girl, if you're wearing
that for more than five minutes, you're doing it wrong.
And then the woman looks at the price. There she goes,
at this price, I'm leaving it on. He's just gonna
have to work around it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
No notes, I only have one more too. It's a
little exchange between Sinclair and Khadija. It's the first episode.
Regiene finds out that Brad is married, he's cheating. She's
kind of at a loss. Sinclair says, go on, girl, cry.
If you don't, your tear ducks will get blocked, and
then when you get old, you won't be able to cry.

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And Kadija looks at her and she says, justin we
thought it was safe to let you back into the conversation. Excellent, excellent, excellent, Erica,
how are you gonna rank living single.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
One to ten amazing nineties fashions. By the way, I
didn't even mention it. There are some chokers that like,
especially regime, she's given like the most current nineties outfits
to wear because she's like the fashion plate and like
the choker game is on points.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Absolutely. How about one to ten apartments in Brooklyn. It's
definitely an apartment in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
This is this is exactly what Brooklyn looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Everyone lives in an normous mansion in Brooklyn on a
bucolic street. Yeah, trees not narrow. Another building in sights.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Yes, little robins fly by kids on tricycles. No one
goes over ten mile an hour down Elm Street in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
I am looking out the window right now in Paul's
apartment in Brooklyn, and I'm not sure I'm looking at
like thirty buildings. How about one to ten office hijinks?

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Oh, like, oh ooh, ooh, you gotta tell me, you
gotta tell me. Who's sleeping at the office because his
husband throw him out?

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Hah, who's wearing pajamas to work and calling it fashion? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Who got their weed deal or a job in the mailroom.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Who's using the printers to self publish their manifesto?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Manifesto? Even? How about one to ten? Friends you talk
about behind their backs, but.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
You know only things you would totally say to their face.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Of course you would never say these things.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
What's something you would say behind my back but really.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
To my face? Oh no, I couldn't. Possibly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Paul's favorite musical is Phantom of the Opera.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
That's so cute. Erica's five to ten and drinks decaf.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
I saw Paul give tequila to a toddler to make
them quote unquote more interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Erica sleeps on the roof because quote the hope of
an alien anal probe, is better than no hope at all.
Paul ghost wrote tyer Banks's book, Erica's old cat Darcy,
not a cat, just a man. She allowed to live
there rent free, if as long as he dressed up
in a cat costume and shit in a box.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Paul said, it's time to forgive kevin'spacey.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Erica said, oh, she would vote for a woman, just
not that woman.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
All right, we're going back in the closet, back in
the box.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
It was too much back in, It's too much, But
shove it down, shove it down, repress, repress. Should we
do this one?

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Do you want to go firstor should I go first first?

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
One to ten things you would say behind your friend's
back that you would totally stay to their face.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Absolutely. These two episodes, and frankly the first fifteen episodes
of this show that I've now watched, all age very well.
Obviously great diverse representation. I did enjoy the fact. I
was like, I wonder how long this show will go
before they employ a white person. And I was like,
it was like episode I don't know, eight or nine
or something, Sinclair quits because she gets to a fight

(01:30:01):
with Kdijra and she starts looking for another job, and
she winds up getting interviewed by a white person. I
think that's the first white person with lines in the show. No, no,
actually I lied. There's also a white waiter in one
of the earlier episodes who's actually quite funny, And I
was like, you know what, I appreciate this show having
white people on exactly as often as all of the
white shows had black people on in the same roles.

(01:30:22):
Totally fine with me, no issues there. Great female roles.
I mean, the men are absolutely the supporting characters. I would.
I'm sure there are going to be episodes where one
of them moves into like an A plot, but nothing
that I've watched really has them in an a plot
as of yet. It's all a plots about the women.
It's all clearly about women supporting women. There's even that
cool part in the first episode where the characters are

(01:30:43):
talking about how you expect it to go, how you
would expect the sitcom to do it. The woman gets
mad and a zag and they go a different way.
She believes her friends. That's cool, that's great, good representation.
Like you said, there are two very small gay panic jokes.
I really would call them very very minor, Like on
a scale of one to ten, they are a zero
point five. I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Prince one kind of got got on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I think it didn't bother me as much because Prince
is not gay. Yeah, but but yeah, I get it.
It's a feminine feminization thing. Yeah, but that's it. And
apparently from what I did on the research, the show
goes on to have a lesbian focused episode that ages beautifully,
so that on the right side of history overall.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
She's not out yet.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
But Queen the Tefa, Yeah, Queen thea Tifa is there.
I mean, come on, I think this age is beautifully
do I want to give it a ten? What does
what doesn't age well? I guess you could say, like
the style of comedy, So that doesn't age well. It
just comes across as old school, which is true of
essentially any comedy we talk about on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Yeah, the comedy is all aged into, not offense or anything.
It's just the comedy's changed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
We've talked about this comedy evolves, and so it's just evolved. Yeah,
it doesn't matter how cutting edge it was like thirty
five years ago, it's still thirty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Yeah. But you know what, it's a tough time in
the world Erica, and watching the show genuinely brought me
joy and has continued to bring me joy. Like I said,
and I really do mean this. It was like watching
a show I had watched growing up, but I'd never
seen it before. It gave me such a feeling of
both nostalgia and discovery, which was really fun and really cool.

(01:32:20):
I'm going to give it a ten. WHOA, I'm going
to give it a ten out of ten. Friends that
you talk about behind their back. Things you say behind
your friends back, you would absolutely say in front of
their face. No big deal. Again, I've seen like one
tenth of the show's run, not even a tenth of
the show's run. Yeah, yeah, about a tenth the show's run,
So I haven't seen all of it. So I may

(01:32:41):
wind up eating those words at some point in season
three when we get like, I don't know, some horrible
episode about something, but I really really like this, and
I really the only things that I tripped on were
the two little gay panic jokes, and I was willing
to blow right past him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
That's good because I was not all right, fair enough,
fair enough. So that's my big dang on the show, honestly,
is that it's very nineteen ninety three and that like
gay panic is still like a big source of comedy
at the time, and it's just it's just the well
that everyone went to all the goddamn time, and it
like so those two jokes stuck out like like to

(01:33:16):
me quite a lot. The Kyle character, I'm sure evolves
as the show goes on. He gets very little to
do in the two episodes that I saw, and I
did watch the show in its original run, but I
don't remember it very well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Well, the gay panic jokes when you wouldn't have tripped
on probably I wouldn't have tripped.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
On them, but also like I just don't just genuinely,
I don't really remember much about this show. But I
didn't remember the men almost at all.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Oh really like yeah, like, oh my god, an overten,
a ten for overten, if nothing else even.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Overten, I didn't. I remembered loving Queen Latifah, I remembered
loving Kim Cole. I mean, I do remember loving the
women on the show, but I just don't remember, like,
I just don't remember the men. So when I when
they showed up, I was like, oh, this is something
cool and interesting. I forgot there were men on this show.
And then they were like I don't know. Kyle was

(01:34:04):
like not as fun as I wanted him to be.
But again, I am referring to paula scene fifteen episodes.
Very recently. I've seen two, so I am only going
by the pilot and episode number five of a five
season show. So there's like one hundred plus episodes to
work with.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
And I do remember Kyle and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Max hooking up so clearly they evolved the character of
Kyle into something more than like the sort of semi
misogynistic punchline that he is like his whole thing is
he's like the man that gives the opposite perspective. If
Overton is like the sweet guy, the like nice guy,
lack of a better word like, then then Kyle is

(01:34:46):
like the player. He's puncturing this like female enclave with
his like maleness, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
And so I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I get what they're doing with the character. And I
just those that, especially that Prince Jroke really rubbed me
the wrong way. So I can't give it a ten.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
I really can't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
And again, I know it gets better, but I am
only going by the two episodes that I watched this week.
I'm gonna give it an eight. I'm going to give
it eight out of ten. Things you would say behind
your friend's backs that you would totally say to their face,
like Paul things, squirrels are out to get him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. So Erica
thinks cab drivers aren't people.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
That one's true, that one's one hundred percent true. Yeah,
I can't give it a pass because it's still nineteen
ninety three and nineteen ninety three is flawed as hell,
even in its best way, even in its most like
purest of intentions, even when it's about oh you know

(01:35:53):
which other one we forgot designing women. Oh yeah, that's
another one, the four Lady concept man that really like
that shows up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
It works over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
That's like a formula that really goddamn works.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
So yeah, even in its purest form.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
When in a show like this that I love, there's
always going to be something that just does an age
well because time March is on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Yeah, I think also, I think part of the reason
I skip past them so easily was because it was
nineteen ninety three and that's all they did that. I
was like, oh, I look, I knew this was going
to be a female at show, and I knew it
was a almost entirely black cast, right, So I was like, well,
I know, those two things we can check off. So
I was kind of bracing for impact on the gay jokes. Yeah,

(01:36:35):
and they're not that prevalent, particularly when you compare it
to like other shows at the time, Like we talked
about friends. We've talked about friends a lot, you know,
and like it's much less. So perhaps that is why
another reason that I was really like, you know what,
I'm fine with this. I can just skate right past
this and enjoy Erica Alexander making faces at me because
I'm going to laugh at that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
No, I really loved it. I just don't think it's perfect. Yeah,
but I really I really did enjoy it, and I
don't think I have any palate cleansers. No, you could
watch Living and it's on Hulu right now. You can
watch it right now. Obviously, the whole run of the
show is out, which is great. Absolutely so highly recommend
you too, absolutely way Tube since you're already watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Speaking of which, some tears on our Patreon come with
thanks from a podcast character. And today we're hearing from
a dynamic duo. It's dueling Drew Barrymore's I'm here fresh
from the Center Square. Did you know that Hollywood Squares
was a thing again? And I just want to hold
Sarah Michelle's hands in mine and say thank you for

(01:38:46):
being a patron of that aged.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Well, Sarah Michelle. Being this close to you makes me
want to dance, specifically to moonwalk, which I think is
when you turn around, drop your pants around your ankles,
and leave the room with your ass out.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Is that right? Come closer, Sarah Michelle, No, closer, closer.
I want to be so close that our vision does
that thing where we both look like we only have
one eye. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Sarah Michelle. I just caught a whiff of your perfume.
I haven't felt a high like this since Halston gave
me my first bump of coke when I was eight
at Studio fifty four.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
I'm so excited to be here thanking Sarah Michelle. It
makes me want to jump on a desk and flash
David Letterman. Is David here? Does he listen, Sarah Michelle.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
I want to thank you in my character as Danielle
from Ever After, who you remember as a French peasant
with a British accent. So if Danielle were to say
thank you for being a patron of that aged dwell,
it would sound something like this, thank you for being
a patron of that age.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Well, no, that's that wasn't what I sounded like at all.
I sound like this, thank you for being a patron
of that age.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Well, oh, Drue, you are so beautiful and you have
such a gorgeous spirit. But no, it would sound like,
thank you for watching the aged.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Well, oh my god, you beautiful sunflower, you sunflower lady.
You smell like dreams and you look like an angel.
But it would sound like this, thank you all for
being a patron of that age. Weil, Drew, you nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
You sound like kittens purring in the sunset. And with
that this, Drew is gonna go. I have a date
with someone I met on Riah. It's the gay guy
from Abbot Elementary.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
I'm also going to go. I have to go to
a meeting with some investors for my new vegan jerky company.
It's jerky, but it's made from mung bean.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Oh delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
What I love about Drew is that she not only
loves others, but she loves herself.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
She does she loves herself. She's a force of positivity
in this We need more like her. I really hope
she makes it work with that gay guy from Avid
Elements it'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
A great pair. It'd be a great pair, all right, Erica,
any final thoughts on living single Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
In this world. I'm glad I've got my girls.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Who never talk about you behind your back ever. Sorry,
did you wash your hands? Oh? Yes, of course. Oh
well no, I don't want to say it, wash my hands.

(01:41:46):
They're they know we're in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
The audience understands the construct of this joke.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
I'll try something I never found PSM

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